Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[patti]

It saves you from trying to press 3 keys at once, lol.
Just press the insert key, and let go, and then press the other keys.
I love it, smiles.
Patti

Patti, I will definitely check this out.  I had no idea this option was
there.

Thanks!
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

Hi,
Do you have the insert key mode checked?
If not here is how you get to it.
1, Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A, Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B, Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2,
2, press, control, shift , + D, to open the Settings Center Default All
Applications.
3, Arrow down to, Users, right arrow to open.
4, Arrow down to, Insert Key Mode, press space bar to check this box.
Here's the explanation of this option:
When selected, the INSERT key functions as a sticky key. Any key pressed
immediately after pressing the INSERT key is treated as if it were pressed
in combination with the INSERT key. This check box is cleared by default.
5, tab to ok, press the space bar
Patti


I cross my left hand over my right to press insert leaving my right hand on
the home row to press the J.  The one that I find difficult on my current
laptop is Insert+Function+semicolon to route the JAWS cursor to the PC
cursor.  The Insert key and the semicolon are on the same side of the
keyboard.  The Function key and Insert key are in opposite corners of the
keyboard.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

It is hard to reach the key combinations with the right hand using the
insert key, for instance insert and J. j
  - Original Message -
  From: Adrian Spratt
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS
key


  Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you
find the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that
information, people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you
an idea of whether you might face similar problems with that key. 

  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

  I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key
with some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to
have opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems
with using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Eric, how about adding the SMA order page to web resources in help, and as one of the links on FSActivate.com

[Dennis Long]

I agree.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 3:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eric, how about adding the SMA order page to web 
resources in help, and as one of the links on FSActivate.com

Agree wholeheartedly.  Very good idea.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/4/2017 1:37 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:
> Hi Eric.
>
>
> This link,
>
> https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
> could use a home in web resources making it easier for us to find this 
> page. Even if we can't order online, this page should let us know how 
> many versions we're good up to. On the FSActivate.com website, there 
> should be a link to this page probably at the bottom of the 5 item 
> long list of things you can do to your activation, request more 
> activations etc. This page should be linked at the end of that.
>
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Annette Carr]

Patti, I will definitely check this out.  I had no idea this option was
there.

Thanks!
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

Hi,
Do you have the insert key mode checked?
If not here is how you get to it.
1, Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A, Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B, Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2,
2, press, control, shift , + D, to open the Settings Center Default All
Applications.
3, Arrow down to, Users, right arrow to open.
4, Arrow down to, Insert Key Mode, press space bar to check this box.
Here's the explanation of this option:
When selected, the INSERT key functions as a sticky key. Any key pressed
immediately after pressing the INSERT key is treated as if it were pressed
in combination with the INSERT key. This check box is cleared by default.
5, tab to ok, press the space bar
Patti


I cross my left hand over my right to press insert leaving my right hand on
the home row to press the J.  The one that I find difficult on my current
laptop is Insert+Function+semicolon to route the JAWS cursor to the PC
cursor.  The Insert key and the semicolon are on the same side of the
keyboard.  The Function key and Insert key are in opposite corners of the
keyboard.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

It is hard to reach the key combinations with the right hand using the
insert key, for instance insert and J. j
  - Original Message -
  From: Adrian Spratt
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS
key


  Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you
find the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that
information, people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you
an idea of whether you might face similar problems with that key. 

  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

  I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key
with some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to
have opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems
with using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[patti]

Hi,
Do you have the insert key mode checked?
If not here is how you get to it.
1, Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A, Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B, Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2,
2, press, control, shift , + D, to open the Settings Center Default All
Applications.
3, Arrow down to, Users, right arrow to open.
4, Arrow down to, Insert Key Mode, press space bar to check this box.
Here's the explanation of this option:
When selected, the INSERT key functions as a sticky key. Any key pressed
immediately after pressing the INSERT key is treated as if it were pressed
in combination with the INSERT key. This check box is cleared by default.
5, tab to ok, press the space bar
Patti


I cross my left hand over my right to press insert leaving my right hand on
the home row to press the J.  The one that I find difficult on my current
laptop is Insert+Function+semicolon to route the JAWS cursor to the PC
cursor.  The Insert key and the semicolon are on the same side of the
keyboard.  The Function key and Insert key are in opposite corners of the
keyboard.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

It is hard to reach the key combinations with the right hand using the
insert key, for instance insert and J. j
  - Original Message -
  From: Adrian Spratt
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS
key


  Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you
find the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that
information, people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you
an idea of whether you might face similar problems with that key. 

  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

  I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key
with some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to
have opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems
with using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

[hwolcott]

hi:

64 bit.

and as I said in a later post than the one you replied to, I fixed the 
problem.


someone posted a fix.

thanks.





Howard Wolcott
-Original Message- 
From: Valiant8086

Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

Hi.


Dell inspiron 1100 notebook appears to be one that had a 32 bit
processor. Are you running the 32 bit JAWS installer? If so, then it
would be a bug where the 32 bit installer is mistakenly trying to
install a 64 bit component. It installed successfully under the 32 bit
platform on my Elbraille, though so if it's a bug it's not affecting all
of the 32 bit machines.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;




On 9/3/2017 11:47 PM, joanne wrote:
Same error code here.  This is a Dell desktop and I haven't yet tried it 
on my laptop.  Does anyone know what this code means and if there's a 
general windows fix for the error?


- Original Message - From: "hwolcott" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta



   hi:

absotely. have tried installing many times over the last two days.

the progress gets to just past 50% and then I get the following error 
message:


unable to install FS 64 OCR component.
and the following error code:

80070643.

full disclosure:

have 3 computers here.

the new beta did install successfully on 2 of them.

this one on which have my email on is a dell notebook inspiron 1100 
series.


it is running win10 build 1703 with the latest update as of august.

hopefully eric or someone from VFO who monitors this list can give some 
answers on this.


thanks.





Howard Wolcott
-Original Message- From: Steve
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

Are you guys sure you downloaded the correct version for your system --
64=-bit version for a 64-bit version of Windows?

Just curious, because my Windows 7 machine installed version 2018 just 
fine.


- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta


Hi Joanne,  I experienced this failure as well and notified Freedom 
Scientific of the installation failure and the related error number.

An additional attempt tried just now failed in the exact same fashion.
I persist with Windows 7 and I E 11 and the current JAWS 18 product. 
Mitch


Late night Public Address announcement overheard at the Winston-Salem, 
North Carolina airport:  “  Your attention please.  For those of you who 
have not as yet done so, please do so at your earliest convenience. 
Thank you.”


-Original Message- From: Joanne
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

Has anyone been able to fix error messages that come up in Jaws 
instillation.  Mine says it can't install and to restart and run the 
install again.  I know it suggests calling tech support, but just 
wondered if I could try something else before really needing to call.


Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

[Mike B.]

Hi Wayne,

When you have 1 of those graphic files, open it as usual, then press, 
Control + P, to bring up the print dialogue, arrow down to, Freedom Import 
Printer, & press enter.  Give your system some time to respond & get 
Openbook started & scanning.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book


I have seen that printer listed when I go to print a document.  How do I use 
it to read a graphic pdf?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

Agree.  Open Book carries with it a handy "Freedom printer" which is able to 
open a secure graphically sent pdf so that I might read it.
Nothing else works, not even JAWS OCR.  I suppose that I could print to my 
HP printer, too, but I'd be using quite a bit of paper and would need to 
physically  scan each page.  So, Open Book is my buddy.



On 9/4/2017 1:31 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:
> Hi.
>
> According to Erik on the latest episode of the FSCast podcast, Open
> book is still relevant. It gives you the 3 OCR engines in one package
> for better accuracy, an easy to use self voiced interface, ability to
> edit recognized content and a whole host of extra goodies enabling you
> to really do a number on scanning that document or book and making it
> as good as possible. It's for more serious occasions where JAWS
> acquire image OCR capability is for the casual user who wants to check
> mail or quickly read a book etc. You could of course acquire the text
> of an image then copy and paste it out of the results viewer into word
> pad or something similar and there's your editing capability. HJ Pad
> for that matter.
>
>
> So said, right now it doesn't sound like VFO is interested in
> discontinuing Open Book in favor of using that OCR which is included
> in JAWS.
>
>
> Cheers:
> Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
> Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
> http://valiantGalaxy.com;
>
> 
>
> On 8/31/2017 5:58 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:
>> Does anyone know if with the inclusion of the scanning features in
>> JAWS 2018 if VFO is intending to end support or development of Open
>> Book?  It has been quite a while since there were any
>> updates/improvements to Open Book and this new feature set would seem
>> to indicate a lack of interest in maintaining Open Book as a separate
>> product line.
>>
>> If that is the case, does anyone know what OCR programs are being
>> used in JAWS 2018 to perform the recognition and will there be ways
>> to "tweek" the performance as there is in Open Book?
>>
>> It's an interesting release and future developments will be interesting.
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>

-- 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

[Jim Pursley]

Try this.  In the pdf, hit control P.  A list of printers should come 
up.  Click on the Freedom Printer and an Open Book file will open with 
the pdf in it.  You can then save it to  various places including a Word 
document if you wish.


On 9/4/2017 3:39 PM, wayne smith wrote:

I have seen that printer listed when I go to print a document.  How do I use it 
to read a graphic pdf?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

Agree.  Open Book carries with it a handy "Freedom printer" which is able to 
open a secure graphically sent pdf so that I might read it.
Nothing else works, not even JAWS OCR.  I suppose that I could print to my HP 
printer, too, but I'd be using quite a bit of paper and would need to 
physically  scan each page.  So, Open Book is my buddy.



On 9/4/2017 1:31 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.

According to Erik on the latest episode of the FSCast podcast, Open
book is still relevant. It gives you the 3 OCR engines in one package
for better accuracy, an easy to use self voiced interface, ability to
edit recognized content and a whole host of extra goodies enabling you
to really do a number on scanning that document or book and making it
as good as possible. It's for more serious occasions where JAWS
acquire image OCR capability is for the casual user who wants to check
mail or quickly read a book etc. You could of course acquire the text
of an image then copy and paste it out of the results viewer into word
pad or something similar and there's your editing capability. HJ Pad
for that matter.


So said, right now it doesn't sound like VFO is interested in
discontinuing Open Book in favor of using that OCR which is included
in JAWS.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 8/31/2017 5:58 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:

Does anyone know if with the inclusion of the scanning features in
JAWS 2018 if VFO is intending to end support or development of Open
Book?  It has been quite a while since there were any
updates/improvements to Open Book and this new feature set would seem
to indicate a lack of interest in maintaining Open Book as a separate
product line.

If that is the case, does anyone know what OCR programs are being
used in JAWS 2018 to perform the recognition and will there be ways
to "tweek" the performance as there is in Open Book?

It's an interesting release and future developments will be interesting.
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Gaia Capital Management
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

[wayne smith]

I have seen that printer listed when I go to print a document.  How do I use it 
to read a graphic pdf?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

Agree.  Open Book carries with it a handy "Freedom printer" which is able to 
open a secure graphically sent pdf so that I might read it. 
Nothing else works, not even JAWS OCR.  I suppose that I could print to my HP 
printer, too, but I'd be using quite a bit of paper and would need to 
physically  scan each page.  So, Open Book is my buddy.



On 9/4/2017 1:31 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:
> Hi.
>
> According to Erik on the latest episode of the FSCast podcast, Open 
> book is still relevant. It gives you the 3 OCR engines in one package 
> for better accuracy, an easy to use self voiced interface, ability to 
> edit recognized content and a whole host of extra goodies enabling you 
> to really do a number on scanning that document or book and making it 
> as good as possible. It's for more serious occasions where JAWS 
> acquire image OCR capability is for the casual user who wants to check 
> mail or quickly read a book etc. You could of course acquire the text 
> of an image then copy and paste it out of the results viewer into word 
> pad or something similar and there's your editing capability. HJ Pad 
> for that matter.
>
>
> So said, right now it doesn't sound like VFO is interested in 
> discontinuing Open Book in favor of using that OCR which is included 
> in JAWS.
>
>
> Cheers:
> Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
> Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
> http://valiantGalaxy.com;
>
> 
>
> On 8/31/2017 5:58 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:
>> Does anyone know if with the inclusion of the scanning features in 
>> JAWS 2018 if VFO is intending to end support or development of Open 
>> Book?  It has been quite a while since there were any 
>> updates/improvements to Open Book and this new feature set would seem 
>> to indicate a lack of interest in maintaining Open Book as a separate 
>> product line.
>>
>> If that is the case, does anyone know what OCR programs are being 
>> used in JAWS 2018 to perform the recognition and will there be ways 
>> to "tweek" the performance as there is in Open Book?
>>
>> It's an interesting release and future developments will be interesting.
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>

-- 

James C. Pursley
Chief Investment Officer
Gaia Capital Management
Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality
  companies, we seek long term client account growth

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Eric, how about adding the SMA order page to web resources in help, and as one of the links on FSActivate.com

[Maria Campbell]

Agree wholeheartedly.  Very good idea.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/4/2017 1:37 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:

Hi Eric.


This link,

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal

could use a home in web resources making it easier for us to find this 
page. Even if we can't order online, this page should let us know how 
many versions we're good up to. On the FSActivate.com website, there 
should be a link to this page probably at the bottom of the 5 item 
long list of things you can do to your activation, request more 
activations etc. This page should be linked at the end of that.






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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

[Jim Pursley]

Agree.  Open Book carries with it a handy "Freedom printer" which is 
able to open a secure graphically sent pdf so that I might read it. 
Nothing else works, not even JAWS OCR.  I suppose that I could print to 
my HP printer, too, but I'd be using quite a bit of paper and would need 
to physically  scan each page.  So, Open Book is my buddy.




On 9/4/2017 1:31 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.

According to Erik on the latest episode of the FSCast podcast, Open 
book is still relevant. It gives you the 3 OCR engines in one package 
for better accuracy, an easy to use self voiced interface, ability to 
edit recognized content and a whole host of extra goodies enabling you 
to really do a number on scanning that document or book and making it 
as good as possible. It's for more serious occasions where JAWS 
acquire image OCR capability is for the casual user who wants to check 
mail or quickly read a book etc. You could of course acquire the text 
of an image then copy and paste it out of the results viewer into word 
pad or something similar and there's your editing capability. HJ Pad 
for that matter.



So said, right now it doesn't sound like VFO is interested in 
discontinuing Open Book in favor of using that OCR which is included 
in JAWS.



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Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
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On 8/31/2017 5:58 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:
Does anyone know if with the inclusion of the scanning features in 
JAWS 2018 if VFO is intending to end support or development of Open 
Book?  It has been quite a while since there were any 
updates/improvements to Open Book and this new feature set would seem 
to indicate a lack of interest in maintaining Open Book as a separate 
product line.


If that is the case, does anyone know what OCR programs are being 
used in JAWS 2018 to perform the recognition and will there be ways 
to "tweek" the performance as there is in Open Book?


It's an interesting release and future developments will be interesting.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on using caps lock as JAWS key

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

When you change from the desktop to the laptop keyboard layout, there are
new key combinations used with the caps lock key .  Also you must remember
that to turn caps lock on or off, you have to press the caps lock key twice.
However, when using the  laptop keyboard layout, you are not locked into
using the caps lock key.  In the laptop keyboard layout, holding down the
insert key while pressing other keys works the same as it did in the desktop
keyboard layout.  So if there is a numpad on your keyboard, you can use the
insert key plus other keys without even knowing which keyboard is being
used, except for the difference  using the caps lock key to turn caps lock
on or off.  

Also when using the laptop keyboard layout, you can press and hold
control+shift+capslock and then j to open the JAWS window or menu if you
don't like the stretch of pressing insert and then j with one hand.
-Original Message-


From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of loyrg2...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:13
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the insert
key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock as the JAWS
key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any problems with
using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank you

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

[Miriam Vieni]

Thank you so much. That worked for me. I didn't actually hear Jaws tell me
that I could name the page until I read your response to me and tried again.
It's now in My Favorites, properly named.

Miriam

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

Miriam,

When you create a favorite, you're put in an edit field and can do whatever
you want with the assigned name. As far as I can tell, you can't edit a
favorite's name once you've saved it. So what you could do in this case is
delete the existing favorite whose name you want to change and create it all
over again. In fact, you don't even need to delete the existing name, but
you might get confused if you don't.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

I have I E 11, Win7, Jaws 18. In I E, my favorites are listed
alphabetically, sort of. Now there's a website, Alternet, and it's where it
ought to be alphabetically. But within that website, there's a grouping of
articles called The Grayzone Project. Those are the articles I'm interested
in. I found the page with the links to all those articles, and I saved it to
My Favorites. But when I looked in the list of My Favorites, that page is
also called Alternet. But it's at the bottom of the list, below  the W's and
the one Z. I'd like to change its name , but I can't do that. Am I just
stuck with two Alternets and do I just have to go to the second one?

Miriam 


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[JAWS-Users] Eric, how about adding the SMA order page to web resources in help, and as one of the links on FSActivate.com

[Valiant8086]

Hi Eric.


This link,

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal

could use a home in web resources making it easier for us to find this 
page. Even if we can't order online, this page should let us know how 
many versions we're good up to. On the FSActivate.com website, there 
should be a link to this page probably at the bottom of the 5 item long 
list of things you can do to your activation, request more activations 
etc. This page should be linked at the end of that.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Mike B.]

Hi Loy,

You can also use the Insert Key from the 6 pack of keys in the center of 
your keyboard.  i.e, little finger on the Insert key in the 6 pack with 
thumb on the, J.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Loy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key


It is hard to reach the key combinations with the right hand using the 
insert key, for instance insert and J. j
  - Original Message - 
  From: Adrian Spratt
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS 
key


  Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you 
find the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that 
information, people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you 
an idea of whether you might face similar problems with that key.

  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

  I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key 
with some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to 
have opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems 
with using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Valiant8086]

Hi


If you use laptop layout, you can issue insert+j by pressing 
ctrl+shift+caps lock+j. The ctrl+shift+caps lock emulates the insert 
key, handy if you're using a laptop that has a retarded insert key 
location or none at all. This is however not an alternative insert key 
modifyer - it doesn't work with t for say window title, for instance.. 
It's specifically for insert+j where you don't have an insert key. This 
is pretty  much the only key combination that requires the insert key 
though, if you have laptop layout, and thus the biggest combination you 
might need it for.



That said, I still use insert when I want to press j even though I use 
laptop layout. This is because with laptop layout, caps lock j goes left 
by word - caps lock j emulates the same thing that num pad0+num pad4 
does with desktop layout (say prior word). I have the caps lock shift 
ctrl j option but it's more natural for me to reach for insert with the 
right hand, then hit j with the left pointer finger. Not a standard 
acceptable contortion for touch typist such as myself, but it works.




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On 9/4/2017 8:11 AM, Loy wrote:

It is hard to reach the key combinations with the right hand using the insert 
key, for instance insert and J. j
   - Original Message -
   From: Adrian Spratt
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 7:19 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key


   Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you 
find the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that 
information, people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you an 
idea of whether you might face similar problems with that key.

   -Original Message-
   From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy
   Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

   I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with 
some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have 
opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems with 
using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


This is my personal take on it, I tend to want to suggest that you try 
to learn the laptop layout. If you become efficient with that, you'll be 
able to use laptop layout even on desktop keyboards, so no matter which 
actual style of keyboard you're at you can still use it comfortably. The 
nice thing about the laptop layout is that for the majority of things 
the desktop layout functionality with the num pad still works as it does 
in desktop layout mode.



You ask about using the caps lock key as a JAWS key. When you switch to 
laptop layout, it'll set this up automatically. If you continue using 
desktop layout, you can set the caps lock as a JAWS key manually.



Ask us how to change keyboard layouts if you can't find it on your own.


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On 9/3/2017 11:12 PM, loyrg2...@gmail.com wrote:

I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the insert
key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock as the JAWS
key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any problems with
using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank you

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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


I take it that your laptops all have a num pad then? If not, then it's 
actually a necessity to use laptop layout in order to be able to use all 
of the functionality of JAWS unless you can use the emulated num pad 
efficiently. Switching to the JAWS cursor for instance, or the touch cursor.



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On 9/4/2017 8:42 AM, Annette Carr wrote:

I have been using desktop layout with every desktop and laptop computer I
have ever used.  It is truly a personal preference.  I'm sure there are
keyboard gymnastics that will need to be performed when using the Caps Lock
key in laptop layout.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 7:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

I have been using the laptop mode for as long as I have been using JAWS. I
have never used the desktop mode with the insert as the JAWS key. There is
no problem using it.
Kurt

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Behalf Of loyrg2...@gmail.com
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the insert
key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock as the JAWS
key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any problems with
using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank you

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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Annette Carr]

I cross my left hand over my right to press insert leaving my right hand on
the home row to press the J.  The one that I find difficult on my current
laptop is Insert+Function+semicolon to route the JAWS cursor to the PC
cursor.  The Insert key and the semicolon are on the same side of the
keyboard.  The Function key and Insert key are in opposite corners of the
keyboard.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

It is hard to reach the key combinations with the right hand using the
insert key, for instance insert and J. j
  - Original Message - 
  From: Adrian Spratt 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS
key


  Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you
find the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that
information, people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you
an idea of whether you might face similar problems with that key. 

  -Original Message-
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Behalf Of Loy
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

  I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key
with some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to
have opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems
with using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


Dell inspiron 1100 notebook appears to be one that had a 32 bit 
processor. Are you running the 32 bit JAWS installer? If so, then it 
would be a bug where the 32 bit installer is mistakenly trying to 
install a 64 bit component. It installed successfully under the 32 bit 
platform on my Elbraille, though so if it's a bug it's not affecting all 
of the 32 bit machines.




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On 9/3/2017 11:47 PM, joanne wrote:
Same error code here.  This is a Dell desktop and I haven't yet tried 
it on my laptop.  Does anyone know what this code means and if there's 
a general windows fix for the error?


- Original Message - From: "hwolcott" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta



   hi:

absotely. have tried installing many times over the last two days.

the progress gets to just past 50% and then I get the following error 
message:


unable to install FS 64 OCR component.
and the following error code:

80070643.

full disclosure:

have 3 computers here.

the new beta did install successfully on 2 of them.

this one on which have my email on is a dell notebook inspiron 1100 
series.


it is running win10 build 1703 with the latest update as of august.

hopefully eric or someone from VFO who monitors this list can give 
some answers on this.


thanks.





Howard Wolcott
-Original Message- From: Steve
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

Are you guys sure you downloaded the correct version for your system --
64=-bit version for a 64-bit version of Windows?

Just curious, because my Windows 7 machine installed version 2018 
just fine.


- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta


Hi Joanne,  I experienced this failure as well and notified Freedom 
Scientific of the installation failure and the related error number.

An additional attempt tried just now failed in the exact same fashion.
I persist with Windows 7 and I E 11 and the current JAWS 18 product. 
Mitch


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Winston-Salem, North Carolina airport:  “  Your attention please.  
For those of you who have not as yet done so, please do so at your 
earliest convenience. Thank you.”


-Original Message- From: Joanne
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

Has anyone been able to fix error messages that come up in Jaws 
instillation.  Mine says it can't install and to restart and run the 
install again.  I know it suggests calling tech support, but just 
wondered if I could try something else before really needing to call.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] trying to find the place where I can pay online for my upgrade

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal


This is the link that's on my last Upgrade notice I received in the 
mail.I just tested it though and it says that I need to call to upgrade, 
even though I have a single user license. I am, however, still currently 
eligible for 18.0 +2 notice the plus in there, that sounds to me like 2 
versions later than 18, so 2019, I'm good for. So that perhaps is why it 
wants me to call in if I were wanting to pay up right now to get 18.0 
+4, which would be JAWS 2021. I'm guessing that if you type your cereal 
number in the edit box on that page, if it's going to be time for you to 
buy the new SMA to be able to use the final release of 2018, it'll offer 
to let you pay it online.



Good luck.


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On 9/1/2017 2:36 AM, joanne wrote:

I am eligible for an upgrade and there's a link that says pay for upgrade and 
SMA online.  But clicking on the link there's no place to pay.  It just shows 
the list of available products and their prices.  I have Jaws home edition but 
I don't see an option to get this at my reduced rate instead of the $900 price. 
 Can someone help?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] A possible bit of a problem

[net bat66]

another thing you could do.
create a jaws folder on the desktop. then when a new version is installed you 
could move the old desktop icon into this folder. then the shortcuts to each 
version you have would be there , off the desktop but still easily accessed 
without haveing to use the run dialog box.


-Original Message- 
From: Valiant8086

Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 9:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A possible bit of a problem

Hi.


As Eric said, you can keep both without issue. What happens here is
that, when you upgrade to a new major version, in stead of doing an in
place upgrade, it makes a whole new folder and installs a separate copy
just of the new version. This allows you to, as you noticed, have
multiple copies of major versions. The advantage here is that issues
with one that make it difficult or impossible to do something you need,
if your other version or versions were ok with doing that, you should be
able to shut down the current version and manually run the other version
to have all of its capabilities and, in the case of falling back to 18
from 2018, be rid of any bugs that may have been introduced in the 2018
cycle and not yet fixed.


If you need to switch to the old version, here's the steps

1. Shut down the existing version of JAWS using insert+f4, then pressing
enter.


2. Hold your windows key, and press r then release both. This is the
shortcut for the run dialogue. It's an edit box where you can type the
path of a file you want to execute, it's handy in some situations, such
as this. Go ahead and hit windows+r while JAWS is still running if you
want to find out what the run dialogue looks like.


Tip: If you want to make sure you know how to type jaws18 etc, try it
with JAWS already running. If you specify 18 while running 2018
currently, it'll just open the jaws window or the jaws system tray menu
(if running from tray), even if you specify a different, but valid,
version than what is currently running.

3. After hitting Windows+r, wait for a few seconds to ensure it has
popped up then type one of the following in the run box

jaws17

jaws18

jaws2018

depending on which version of JAWS you want to start. If you hear a
sound, you either didn't get focused in the right place or you typed it
wrong. If you end up stuck with no screen reader, press
ctrl+windows+enter to start narator. If you're on an older version of
windows you might need to just use windows+enter or windows+u, if you
use windows+u you'll need to tab around to the read text on screen aloud
using narator and press space to check it in order to actually start
narator. Once Narator is running you can start JAWS using the JAWS
shortcuts on your desktop - should have one for every version of JAWS
that is installed.


Lastly, if, when, you do uninstall versions of JAWS you no longer need,
select the freedom scientific jaws (version number) in the manage apps
screen, or  programs and features. Making sure it is a JAWS you're
uninstalling not one of the other freedom scientific products like
synthesizer or talking install, etc. During the uninstallation you'll be
asked do you want to remove shared components. Choose no, don't remove
shared components. This is the answer to your question about how to
uninstall one without uninstalling parts of both of them.


Until jaws 2018 is released and is stable to your satisfaction, I highly
recommend keeping your JAWS 18, and, for the record, I personally do
keepone previous version installed than that which is the latest I have
installed. This is in case I find a bug even in the release version that
works ok in the previous version, or if I change a setting or break the
latest one and I can just switch to another version quickly and decide
to beat on the new, broken, version to try and fix it later on when I'm
done with what ever it is I'm doing.


Good luck with your shiny new Shark!



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On 8/31/2017 3:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
The first time I tried downloading the beta version of JAWS 2018, I got an 
older version of the current.  So now I have the current and an older version 
called JAWS 18 plus one called JAWS 2018.  . I'm afraid of removing the JAWS 
18.0 for fear of damaging the JAWS 2018.  I'm wondering how should I proceed?






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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible youtube to mp3 converter

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


Another one I discovered recently, ponts media downloader (google it). 
It's a little buggy, for instance if you want to download a playlist 
from youtube, put the link to the youtube playlist in the edit box, then 
uncheck the checkbox that says something about avoid downloading 
playlist, set that to avoid downloading playlists. It'll then happily 
download the playlist, lol. If you set it the other way, it crashes. 
It's not quite as fast as some of the other downloaders, like the 
command line and very complicated youtube_dl utility, but it gets the 
job done handily. This is an application you install and not a website 
that converts it for you. This application is especially handy if you do 
want to download and or convert all of someone's content in one easy shot.



Btw, the edit box changes itself to display what's on your clipboard, if 
a link every time you focus it, so if you type a path in there but you 
have a different path on your clipboard, every time you tab to and put 
focus back on the edit box it'll be replaced with that which is on your 
clipboard, something to keep in mind.




Cheers:
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make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 9/1/2017 11:13 AM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:

Hello listers,

  


I urgently need assistance. I need to download a piece of music from Youtube
and convert it to mp3 format. I've downloaded a free software, but it is not
accessible with jfw. Does anyone know of software that I can use?

  


Thanks in advance.

  


Regards

MOrne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] A possible bit of a problem

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


As Eric said, you can keep both without issue. What happens here is 
that, when you upgrade to a new major version, in stead of doing an in 
place upgrade, it makes a whole new folder and installs a separate copy 
just of the new version. This allows you to, as you noticed, have 
multiple copies of major versions. The advantage here is that issues 
with one that make it difficult or impossible to do something you need, 
if your other version or versions were ok with doing that, you should be 
able to shut down the current version and manually run the other version 
to have all of its capabilities and, in the case of falling back to 18 
from 2018, be rid of any bugs that may have been introduced in the 2018 
cycle and not yet fixed.



If you need to switch to the old version, here's the steps

1. Shut down the existing version of JAWS using insert+f4, then pressing 
enter.



2. Hold your windows key, and press r then release both. This is the 
shortcut for the run dialogue. It's an edit box where you can type the 
path of a file you want to execute, it's handy in some situations, such 
as this. Go ahead and hit windows+r while JAWS is still running if you 
want to find out what the run dialogue looks like.



Tip: If you want to make sure you know how to type jaws18 etc, try it 
with JAWS already running. If you specify 18 while running 2018 
currently, it'll just open the jaws window or the jaws system tray menu 
(if running from tray), even if you specify a different, but valid, 
version than what is currently running.


3. After hitting Windows+r, wait for a few seconds to ensure it has 
popped up then type one of the following in the run box


jaws17

jaws18

jaws2018

depending on which version of JAWS you want to start. If you hear a 
sound, you either didn't get focused in the right place or you typed it 
wrong. If you end up stuck with no screen reader, press 
ctrl+windows+enter to start narator. If you're on an older version of 
windows you might need to just use windows+enter or windows+u, if you 
use windows+u you'll need to tab around to the read text on screen aloud 
using narator and press space to check it in order to actually start 
narator. Once Narator is running you can start JAWS using the JAWS 
shortcuts on your desktop - should have one for every version of JAWS 
that is installed.



Lastly, if, when, you do uninstall versions of JAWS you no longer need, 
select the freedom scientific jaws (version number) in the manage apps 
screen, or  programs and features. Making sure it is a JAWS you're 
uninstalling not one of the other freedom scientific products like 
synthesizer or talking install, etc. During the uninstallation you'll be 
asked do you want to remove shared components. Choose no, don't remove 
shared components. This is the answer to your question about how to 
uninstall one without uninstalling parts of both of them.



Until jaws 2018 is released and is stable to your satisfaction, I highly 
recommend keeping your JAWS 18, and, for the record, I personally do 
keepone previous version installed than that which is the latest I have 
installed. This is in case I find a bug even in the release version that 
works ok in the previous version, or if I change a setting or break the 
latest one and I can just switch to another version quickly and decide 
to beat on the new, broken, version to try and fix it later on when I'm 
done with what ever it is I'm doing.



Good luck with your shiny new Shark!



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 8/31/2017 3:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
The first time I tried downloading the beta version of JAWS 2018, I 
got an older version of the current.  So now I have the current and an 
older version called JAWS 18 plus one called JAWS 2018.  . I'm afraid 
of removing the JAWS 18.0 for fear of damaging the JAWS 2018.  I'm 
wondering how should I proceed?






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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

[Valiant8086]

Hi.

According to Erik on the latest episode of the FSCast podcast, Open book 
is still relevant. It gives you the 3 OCR engines in one package for 
better accuracy, an easy to use self voiced interface, ability to edit 
recognized content and a whole host of extra goodies enabling you to 
really do a number on scanning that document or book and making it as 
good as possible. It's for more serious occasions where JAWS acquire 
image OCR capability is for the casual user who wants to check mail or 
quickly read a book etc. You could of course acquire the text of an 
image then copy and paste it out of the results viewer into word pad or 
something similar and there's your editing capability. HJ Pad for that 
matter.



So said, right now it doesn't sound like VFO is interested in 
discontinuing Open Book in favor of using that OCR which is included in 
JAWS.



Cheers:
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make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 8/31/2017 5:58 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:

Does anyone know if with the inclusion of the scanning features in JAWS 2018 if 
VFO is intending to end support or development of Open Book?  It has been quite 
a while since there were any updates/improvements to Open Book and this new 
feature set would seem to indicate a lack of interest in maintaining Open Book 
as a separate product line.

If that is the case, does anyone know what OCR programs are being used in JAWS 2018 to 
perform the recognition and will there be ways to "tweek" the performance as 
there is in Open Book?

It's an interesting release and future developments will be interesting.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Adrian Spratt]

Actually, that is the only standard JAWS command using insert that gives me a 
problem. I have no idea why FS/VFO made that the key combo to open the JAWS 
menus. Yes, of course, j could stand for JAWS, but it's a combo that requires 
taking the left hand out of position to press the j. If this is your only 
problem using the insert key, I'd reconsider whether you need to switch to caps 
lock. Then again, since you're a new JAWS user, perhaps you haven't had all the 
commonly used keystrokes ingrained yet. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Loy
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

It is hard to reach the key combinations with the right hand using the insert 
key, for instance insert and J. j
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  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key


  Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you 
find the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that 
information, people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you an 
idea of whether you might face similar problems with that key. 

  -Original Message-
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Behalf Of Loy
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

  I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with 
some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have 
opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems with 
using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[Fernando Gregoire]

I am the oposite; perhaps because I am a lawyer and also like writting, I
find more convenient to enter numbers and JAWS keystrokes using the
extended keypad, avoiding to frequently move a hand to the right when I'm
writting. Fortunately I am used to it since I started to use computers on
2002, because when I recently went to university with a netbook could be
hard to share a table if I had a full-keyboard laptop or an external one
connected.

2017-09-04 11:28 GMT-03:00 wayne smith :

> Maybe  it's because I am just used to it but I like having a full numb pad.
> When I use a laptop without a numb pad I bought an external numb pad and
> plugged it into a USB port.
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:00 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
>
> I would use the Desktop layout in all computers, but often laptops have no
> numeric keypad and, since this is emulated with function keys, activating
> and routing cursors is a challenge without the Laptop layout. There are
> laptop models with numeric keypad, but thei're not convenient to carry out
> because the numpad enlarges the machine a lot.
>
> 2017-09-04 9:42 GMT-03:00 Annette Carr :
>
> > I have been using desktop layout with every desktop and laptop
> > computer I have ever used.  It is truly a personal preference.  I'm
> > sure there are keyboard gymnastics that will need to be performed when
> > using the Caps Lock key in laptop layout.
> >
> > Annette
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> > On Behalf Of Kurt Miller
> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 7:06 AM
> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
> >
> > I have been using the laptop mode for as long as I have been using
> > JAWS. I have never used the desktop mode with the insert as the JAWS
> > key. There is no problem using it.
> > Kurt
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > On Behalf Of loyrg2...@gmail.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:13 PM
> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
> >
> > I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the
> > insert key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock
> > as the JAWS key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any
> > problems with using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank
> > you
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Fernando Gregoire]

With the JAWS default setting, there's no need to go to the numpad to use
INSERT as the JAWS key. I always use extended insert, except for a few
spelling commands which use the 5 on the numpad, which is different from
INSERT+5 of the extended keyboard to say colors.
In most keyboards, extended insert is just up to the DELETE key; in newer
ones I saw it just right to the right CTRL key, but it's less common.

2017-09-04 10:08 GMT-03:00 Humberto Rodriguez :

> The only thing you have to remember is to press it twice quickly when you
> want to turn Caps lock on or off.  I use it always also, ostensibly because
> I use Caps lock-and-I to read the line, instead of having to go to the
> Numpad.
>
> Humberto
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Loy
> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:21 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key
>
> I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with
> some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have
> opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems with
> using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[Jason White]

My current laptop has a numeric key pad, which was one of a number of
reasons for choosing it.

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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

Maybe  it's because I am just used to it but I like having a full numb pad.
When I use a laptop without a numb pad I bought an external numb pad and
plugged it into a USB port.

Wayne

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Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

I would use the Desktop layout in all computers, but often laptops have no
numeric keypad and, since this is emulated with function keys, activating
and routing cursors is a challenge without the Laptop layout. There are
laptop models with numeric keypad, but thei're not convenient to carry out
because the numpad enlarges the machine a lot.

2017-09-04 9:42 GMT-03:00 Annette Carr :

> I have been using desktop layout with every desktop and laptop 
> computer I have ever used.  It is truly a personal preference.  I'm 
> sure there are keyboard gymnastics that will need to be performed when 
> using the Caps Lock key in laptop layout.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Kurt Miller
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 7:06 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
>
> I have been using the laptop mode for as long as I have been using 
> JAWS. I have never used the desktop mode with the insert as the JAWS 
> key. There is no problem using it.
> Kurt
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of loyrg2...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
>
> I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the 
> insert key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock 
> as the JAWS key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any 
> problems with using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank 
> you
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[wayne smith]

Maybe  it's because I am just used to it but I like having a full numb pad.
When I use a laptop without a numb pad I bought an external numb pad and
plugged it into a USB port.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

I would use the Desktop layout in all computers, but often laptops have no
numeric keypad and, since this is emulated with function keys, activating
and routing cursors is a challenge without the Laptop layout. There are
laptop models with numeric keypad, but thei're not convenient to carry out
because the numpad enlarges the machine a lot.

2017-09-04 9:42 GMT-03:00 Annette Carr :

> I have been using desktop layout with every desktop and laptop 
> computer I have ever used.  It is truly a personal preference.  I'm 
> sure there are keyboard gymnastics that will need to be performed when 
> using the Caps Lock key in laptop layout.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Miller
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 7:06 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
>
> I have been using the laptop mode for as long as I have been using 
> JAWS. I have never used the desktop mode with the insert as the JAWS 
> key. There is no problem using it.
> Kurt
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of loyrg2...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
>
> I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the 
> insert key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock 
> as the JAWS key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any 
> problems with using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank 
> you
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[JM Casey]

No. I'm used to using the insert key and don't actually remember most of the
caps-lock keystrokes. It's designed for laptop users but can be used easily
on a desktop keyboard instead if that's what you want. In fact, Freedom
Scientific used to suggest simply trying both ways and seeing which you
prefer.

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Behalf Of Loy
Sent: September 3, 2017 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with
some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

[Miriam Vieni]

I tried that and it didn't work. I'll try again.

Miriam

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Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 7:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

Hi Miriam,
If you are viewing the Favorites from Windows Explorer,, simply select the
favorite in question, press the F2 key, and rename it.
when you are satisfied with the name, press enter to save it.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Miriam Vieni" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question


I have I E 11, Win7, Jaws 18. In I E, my favorites are listed
alphabetically, sort of. Now there's a website, Alternet, and it's where it
ought to be alphabetically. But within that website, there's a grouping of
articles called The Grayzone Project. Those are the articles I'm interested
in. I found the page with the links to all those articles, and I saved it to
My Favorites. But when I looked in the list of My Favorites, that page is
also called Alternet. But it's at the bottom of the list, below  the W's and
the one Z. I'd like to change its name , but I can't do that. Am I just
stuck with two Alternets and do I just have to go to the second one?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Loy]

It is hard to reach the key combinations with the right hand using the insert 
key, for instance insert and J. j
  - Original Message - 
  From: Adrian Spratt 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key


  Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you 
find the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that 
information, people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you an 
idea of whether you might face similar problems with that key. 

  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

  I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with 
some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have 
opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems with 
using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[David Ferrin]

I use the lap top lay out simply because it gives me more options as to key 
combinations even though I am normally on a desk top system. Then again my 
laptop has an external keyboard connected to it.


-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez

Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 9:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

The only thing you have to remember is to press it twice quickly when you
want to turn Caps lock on or off.  I use it always also, ostensibly because
I use Caps lock-and-I to read the line, instead of having to go to the
Numpad.

Humberto


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Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with
some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have
opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems with
using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

[David Ferrin]

You could go in to the favorites folder directly in windows explorer and 
edit the name in there. Also although it has been a while if memory serves 
you can alphabetize your favorites in IE by hitting the applications key in 
the list of favorites and choose sort or whatever it is called. Like I said 
it has been a while.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

Miriam,

When you create a favorite, you're put in an edit field and can do whatever 
you want with the assigned name. As far as I can tell, you can't edit a 
favorite's name once you've saved it. So what you could do in this case is 
delete the existing favorite whose name you want to change and create it all 
over again. In fact, you don't even need to delete the existing name, but 
you might get confused if you don't.


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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni

Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

I have I E 11, Win7, Jaws 18. In I E, my favorites are listed 
alphabetically, sort of. Now there's a website, Alternet, and it's where it 
ought to be alphabetically. But within that website, there's a grouping of 
articles called The Grayzone Project. Those are the articles I'm interested 
in. I found the page with the links to all those articles, and I saved it to 
My Favorites. But when I looked in the list of My Favorites, that page is 
also called Alternet. But it's at the bottom of the list, below  the W's and 
the one Z. I'd like to change its name , but I can't do that. Am I just 
stuck with two Alternets and do I just have to go to the second one?


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Humberto Rodriguez]

The only thing you have to remember is to press it twice quickly when you
want to turn Caps lock on or off.  I use it always also, ostensibly because
I use Caps lock-and-I to read the line, instead of having to go to the
Numpad.

Humberto


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Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with
some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have
opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems with
using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[Fernando Gregoire]

I would use the Desktop layout in all computers, but often laptops have no
numeric keypad and, since this is emulated with function keys, activating
and routing cursors is a challenge without the Laptop layout. There are
laptop models with numeric keypad, but thei're not convenient to carry out
because the numpad enlarges the machine a lot.

2017-09-04 9:42 GMT-03:00 Annette Carr :

> I have been using desktop layout with every desktop and laptop computer I
> have ever used.  It is truly a personal preference.  I'm sure there are
> keyboard gymnastics that will need to be performed when using the Caps Lock
> key in laptop layout.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kurt Miller
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 7:06 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
>
> I have been using the laptop mode for as long as I have been using JAWS. I
> have never used the desktop mode with the insert as the JAWS key. There is
> no problem using it.
> Kurt
>
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> Behalf Of loyrg2...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key
>
> I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the insert
> key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock as the JAWS
> key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any problems with
> using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank you
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi,

You can use the Laptop keyboard layout which has capslock as the JAWS Key
by default, or change the setting of the Desktop layout to use capslock
instead of insert.
Keystroke disposition in Laptop layout is easier to handle with no need to
move hands and is especially useful when you haven't numeric keypad, a so
common case in laptops where the numpad is emulated by using function keys.
However, since the laptop layout has duplicate commands and for some less
frequent commands it uses the INSERT KEY (for example, the left mouse click
is simulated with CAPSLOCK+8, but the Keyboard Manager is launched with
INSERT+8), you have to read the help to learn some additional commands
compared to the Desktop layout.
By the way, if you are a new user, I would recommend you to change the JAWS
Key of the Desktop layout instead to switching to the Laptop one. To do
this, open Settings Center with INSERT+6, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to open the
Default file, tab to the tree view and, in the Keyboard branch, fin and
change the option of the JAWS key.
If you can't press INSERT+6 to open Settings Center, go to the JAWS window
with ALT+TAB, press ALT+U for the Utilities menu and E for Settings Center;
if you configured JAWS to run from system tray instead of as a window,
press WINDOWS+B to go to the system tray, fin the JAWS for Windows icon and
press APPLICATIONS key to open the context menu.

Hope it helps!

2017-09-04 0:12 GMT-03:00 :

> I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the insert
> key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock as the JAWS
> key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any problems with
> using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank you
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[Annette Carr]

I have been using desktop layout with every desktop and laptop computer I
have ever used.  It is truly a personal preference.  I'm sure there are
keyboard gymnastics that will need to be performed when using the Caps Lock
key in laptop layout.  

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 7:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

I have been using the laptop mode for as long as I have been using JAWS. I
have never used the desktop mode with the insert as the JAWS key. There is
no problem using it.
Kurt

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Behalf Of loyrg2...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the insert
key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock as the JAWS
key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any problems with
using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank you

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Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

[Fred C. Adams]

I tried this, but no luck.  I think I will just forget it for a while.  I do 
have it installed on one computer though.

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Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 2:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

Hi Fred,

The note below has fixed this problem for others:
From: Dr. Aleksander Pavkovic
yes, I have experienced this as well, and there is a solution.

Just go to the control panel or “Apps & Features” and uninstall the FSOCR64 
component. Then it might be necessary to restart the system. Afterwards, try 
Setup again, now It should work.



Best regards,

Aleksander


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta


Yes, I have two computers and I installed on one with no problems and tried 
several times on the other but no luck.

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Of Steve
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta

Are you guys sure you downloaded the correct version for your system -- 64=-bit 
version for a 64-bit version of Windows?

Just curious, because my Windows 7 machine installed version 2018 just fine.

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From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta


> Hi Joanne,  I experienced this failure as well and notified Freedom 
> Scientific of the installation failure and the related error number.
> An additional attempt tried just now failed in the exact same fashion.
> I persist with Windows 7 and I E 11 and the current JAWS 18 product.
> Mitch
>
> Late night Public Address announcement overheard at the Winston-Salem, 
> North Carolina airport:  “  Your attention please.  For those of you 
> who have not as yet done so, please do so at your earliest 
> convenience.  Thank you.”
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joanne
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:27 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] error everytime I try installing beta
>
> Has anyone been able to fix error messages that come up in Jaws 
> instillation.  Mine says it can't install and to restart and run the 
> install again.  I know it suggests calling tech support, but just 
> wondered if I could try something else before really needing to call.
>
> Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question

[Rick Justice]

Hi Miriam,
If you are viewing the Favorites from Windows Explorer,, simply select the 
favorite in question, press the F2 key, and rename it.
when you are satisfied with the name, press enter to save it.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Miriam Vieni" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E favorites question


I have I E 11, Win7, Jaws 18. In I E, my favorites are listed
alphabetically, sort of. Now there's a website, Alternet, and it's where it
ought to be alphabetically. But within that website, there's a grouping of
articles called The Grayzone Project. Those are the articles I'm interested
in. I found the page with the links to all those articles, and I saved it to
My Favorites. But when I looked in the list of My Favorites, that page is
also called Alternet. But it's at the bottom of the list, below  the W's and
the one Z. I'd like to change its name , but I can't do that. Am I just
stuck with two Alternets and do I just have to go to the second one?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi, Loy. It's completely up to you, but you might want to explain why you find 
the insert key hard to use in some combinations. Armed with that information, 
people who use the caps lock instead of insert could give you an idea of 
whether you might face similar problems with that key. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with 
some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have 
opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems with 
using it?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[Kurt Miller]

I have been using the laptop mode for as long as I have been using JAWS. I
have never used the desktop mode with the insert as the JAWS key. There is
no problem using it.
Kurt

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of loyrg2...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the insert
key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock as the JAWS
key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any problems with
using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank you

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[JAWS-Users] New JAWS user question about caps lock as JAWS key

[Loy]

I am a new JAWS  user and it is difficult for me to use the insert key with 
some key strokes, before I change it to the caps lock, I would like to have 
opinions on using the caps lock as the JAWS key, is there any problems with 
using it?
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[JAWS-Users] opinion on useing caps lock as JAWS key

[loyrg2845]

I am a new user of JAWS and am having some difficulty in using the insert
key with some keystrokes. I am thinking of trying the caps lock as the JAWS
key, but before I do I would like to know if there is any problems with
using it. It seems that it would be easier to use. Thank you

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