Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

[Dialup @ 56k]

The Abbyy scan results are very good in my case, but there are some set 
up screens which are accessible but a bit fiddly to configure.
The most important thing though is it integrates with Word / Excel etc, 
which Omnipage no longer does.

Worth the trouble in my opinion.
Glen


---
On 2-Mar-2018 11:09 am, JM Casey wrote:

I'm definitely aiming in that direction. But what do you mean by "clunky"?
Do you mean in terms of scan results, or interface?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dialup @ 56k
Sent: March 1, 2018 4:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

I've been using Abbyy fine reader for a while now after the Omnipage
Ultimate release which I found to be less than ultimate.
Like Omnipage, A F R is a bit clunky in places, but for me it produces much
better results, particularly with tables.
Give it a go!
Glen

---

On 2-Mar-2018 4:00 am, JM Casey wrote:

Hey. I'm looking into this software, and it seems useful and has a lot
of recommendations for its excellent OCR. It's also not too expensive
in comparison to some others I have seen. Does anyone here use it?
Someone commented that the latest version, 14, is not as accessible as
version 12 was. Can anyone on the list confirm this and describe
issues? Unfortunately, the company does not seem to provide older versions

on their site.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

[Dialup @ 56k]

I've been using Abbyy fine reader for a while now after the Omnipage 
Ultimate release which I found to be less than ultimate.
Like Omnipage, A F R is a bit clunky in places, but for me it produces 
much better results, particularly with tables.

Give it a go!
Glen

---

On 2-Mar-2018 4:00 am, JM Casey wrote:

Hey. I'm looking into this software, and it seems useful and has a lot of
recommendations for its excellent OCR. It's also not too expensive in
comparison to some others I have seen. Does anyone here use it? Someone
commented that the latest version, 14, is not as accessible as version 12
was. Can anyone on the list confirm this and describe issues? Unfortunately,
the company does not seem to provide older versions on their site.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error

[Dialup @ 56k]

Thanks for the idea, but yes, even thought I'm logged as admin, I ran 
the setup file as admin but got the same error about 40% into the first 
screen which is:

Status:  Processing TableofContents.
Time for the big re-install the lot.  Not happy !!!
Glen

---

On 28-Feb-2018 2:06 pm, net bat66 wrote:

are you logged in as the administrator?
if i am logged in as a standard user i will get jaws errors every time i 
try to install it. even though i say yes to the u a c to give it 
administrator permissions to install it.
once i log in as the administrator and run the setup i don't get the 
errors.



-Original Message- From: Dialup @ 56k
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 6:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error

Hello Mike
I started with the most recent release download link from the FS
website; this is when the error message first appeared.
My first suspect was Win 10 so I did a huge system spring clean, same
result.
So I then downloaded the current version to another PC using a different
internet access provider, same result.
So I've now decided the only reliable way to solve the problem is to
reinstall Win 10, then JFW, and see what happens.
Not my preferred option 'cos I'm very time poor at the moment, but
that's life.
Thanks for being a good sound board; hope this little episode is of use
to someone else.
Glen

---

On 28-Feb-2018 1:14 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

Why don't you try using a downloaded file?  Maybe there's something wrong
with the disk.  Might save you a hell of a lot of frustration.  It'll 
only

take a couple of minutes.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Dialup @ 56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error


Thanks for the DL links Mike, but I'm encountering the error using the
DVD from FS.
I've never seen so many error during a JFW install, and I've been at it
for quite a few years.
Glen


---
On 27-Feb-2018 11:39 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

Try a fresh download from the appropriate link below, & see if that 
helps.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  
In the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Dialup @ 56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error


Afternoon All
Trying to install the February release of JAWS 2018, 64 bit version,
clean install on a Windows 10 PC.
The install freezes at about 40% on the first screen displaying:
"Status: Processing table of contents"
Cancelling the install has no initial effect.  Have to go to task
manager and End Task.
Then, at the next restart, the License screen displays and the install
process starts again on a loop, failing at the same spot each time.
I prseumed the problem was related to a Windows 10 error so did all the
usual checking for corrupt files / troubleshooting / driver updates, but
no luck, still the same JAWS install loop.
Been at it all morning so any ideas, no matter how whacky would be
appreciated.
Glen

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello Mike
I started with the most recent release download link from the FS 
website; this is when the error message first appeared.
My first suspect was Win 10 so I did a huge system spring clean, same 
result.
So I then downloaded the current version to another PC using a different 
internet access provider, same result.
So I've now decided the only reliable way to solve the problem is to 
reinstall Win 10, then JFW, and see what happens.
Not my preferred option 'cos I'm very time poor at the moment, but 
that's life.
Thanks for being a good sound board; hope this little episode is of use 
to someone else.

Glen

---

On 28-Feb-2018 1:14 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

Why don't you try using a downloaded file?  Maybe there's something wrong
with the disk.  Might save you a hell of a lot of frustration.  It'll only
take a couple of minutes.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Dialup @ 56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error


Thanks for the DL links Mike, but I'm encountering the error using the
DVD from FS.
I've never seen so many error during a JFW install, and I've been at it
for quite a few years.
Glen


---
On 27-Feb-2018 11:39 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

Try a fresh download from the appropriate link below, & see if that helps.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Dialup @ 56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error


Afternoon All
Trying to install the February release of JAWS 2018, 64 bit version,
clean install on a Windows 10 PC.
The install freezes at about 40% on the first screen displaying:
"Status: Processing table of contents"
Cancelling the install has no initial effect.  Have to go to task
manager and End Task.
Then, at the next restart, the License screen displays and the install
process starts again on a loop, failing at the same spot each time.
I prseumed the problem was related to a Windows 10 error so did all the
usual checking for corrupt files / troubleshooting / driver updates, but
no luck, still the same JAWS install loop.
Been at it all morning so any ideas, no matter how whacky would be
appreciated.
Glen

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error

[Dialup @ 56k]

Thanks for the DL links Mike, but I'm encountering the error using the 
DVD from FS.
I've never seen so many error during a JFW install, and I've been at it 
for quite a few years.

Glen


---
On 27-Feb-2018 11:39 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

Try a fresh download from the appropriate link below, & see if that helps.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Dialup @ 56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS install error


Afternoon All
Trying to install the February release of JAWS 2018, 64 bit version,
clean install on a Windows 10 PC.
The install freezes at about 40% on the first screen displaying:
"Status: Processing table of contents"
Cancelling the install has no initial effect.  Have to go to task
manager and End Task.
Then, at the next restart, the License screen displays and the install
process starts again on a loop, failing at the same spot each time.
I prseumed the problem was related to a Windows 10 error so did all the
usual checking for corrupt files / troubleshooting / driver updates, but
no luck, still the same JAWS install loop.
Been at it all morning so any ideas, no matter how whacky would be
appreciated.
Glen

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] JAWS install error

[Dialup @ 56k]

Afternoon All
Trying to install the February release of JAWS 2018, 64 bit version, 
clean install on a Windows 10 PC.

The install freezes at about 40% on the first screen displaying:
"Status: Processing table of contents"
Cancelling the install has no initial effect.  Have to go to task 
manager and End Task.
Then, at the next restart, the License screen displays and the install 
process starts again on a loop, failing at the same spot each time.
I prseumed the problem was related to a Windows 10 error so did all the 
usual checking for corrupt files / troubleshooting / driver updates, but 
no luck, still the same JAWS install loop.
Been at it all morning so any ideas, no matter how whacky would be 
appreciated.

Glen

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest build of JAWS

[Dialup @ 56k]

Same here Maria.  Clean install on a "Win 10 machine.
Version J2018.1802 64 bit, non-tandem build.
On three attempts, freezes at about 60% on Status: Processing 
TableofContents.

Can't cancel the installation.  Have to go to Task Manager and End Task.
Glen

---



On 27-Feb-2018 7:44 am, Maria Campbell wrote:
I'm having problems installing this latest build on one of my laptops. 
I've tried several times to install and it doesn't seem to take.






For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE

[Dialup @ 56k]

And Outlook Express can't be any worse that the current version of Outlook.
Glen

---

On 14-Jan-2018 10:05 am, Loy Green wrote:

It works great and it does what I need an email client to do.
   - Original Message -
   From: Ken Chernack
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:25 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE


   Hi
   I thought outlook express support was long gone from Microsoft.
   Why use an old 2003 piece of software?
   There are other supported options.
   Hth,
   ken

   -Original Message-
   From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
   Behalf Of sandy
   Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:05 AM
   To: jul
   Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE

   when I try and download outlook express 2003 from the jaws program list, I
   hit enter when on the link, I choose to save the file, but nothing happens
   For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
   http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


   For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
   http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Notice Inquiry

[Dialup @ 56k]

Jerry.
Sound like high grade, fly-attracting SPAM.
Glen


---
On 10-Dec-2017 9:19 am, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Afternoon all.

I just received a phone call informing me that my Microsoft software license 
needed to be renewed, and I was wondering if anyone else received such a scam 
call. If not, be on the lookout for such things. Just a FYI.

Jerry
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] another browser question

[Dialup @ 56k]

No, as far as I've read, HTML5 has many more accessibility 
considerations than previous versions.  It's implementation is however 
another matter.

Glen


---
On 4-Dec-2017 11:06 am, Samuel White wrote:

It is mainly html 5.0 that causes a problem with IE and later version of
JAWS such as 14.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] another browser question

I also have been a long time IE user, but realize some sites just don't work
with it anymore and then mostly I use Firefox, which I find easier to use
than Chrome. But I still have an older version of Jaws, which is 14 and I
wonder how much that plays into things. I know the person initially who asks
has Jaws 18,  but I just wonder how much the version of Jaws has to do with
the accessibility of the browser, or is it just the changes in websites
these days in general. Thanks in advance.  Judy & Libby

  

  

  


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Vocaliser express 2 Neel speech rate is not getting faster

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello
As far as I can see, these premium voices require a good deal of 
processing power.
As an experiment, try the standard version of the voice and see what you 
get.
Maybe your system does not have the power to produce the voice speeds 
you would like so stops at a specific point.
If this is the case, it's quite a good outcome; once upon a time, when 
this happened, the system just crashed.

H T H
Glen

---

On 25-Oct-2017 5:53 pm, Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote:

Yes I am increasing the speech rate of all context menues, still no
effect. I have also tried this key combination of control, alt and
pageup, though it announces "faster" "faster", but speech rate remains
the same.

On 10/25/17, net bat66  wrote:

this is with a desktop. i don't know the keys for a laptop.
use the extended page up and down keys.
control alt page up or down
or control windows  alt page up or down.
don't know which to use. one is for a tempory change. the other is for a
permanent change.

-Original Message-
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 10:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vocaliser express 2 Neel speech rate is not getting
faster

I am using jaws 18 and vocalizer express 2 Neel high premium voice for
reading hindi language. But its default speech rate is quite slow,
though I am increasing its rate, but it has no effect. It is reading
with its own default speed. Is there any possible way round to fix it?

--
Mohib Anwar Rafay

Phone: +919 555 555 765

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/






For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build

[Dialup @ 56k]

I use Thunderbird, and I suspect so do quite a few.
I personally find IE flakey at best and unresponsive at worst.
Glen

---

On 15-Oct-2017 4:24 am, cheez wrote:
Thunderbird wasn't mentioned in the fix.  I don't think there are many 
that use it.


Vince



- Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build



Really? And why would that be?


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 10/11/2017 12:27 AM, cheez wrote:

I don't think they fix was for Thunderbird. Just Outlook.

Vince

- Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build


I see this build still did not fix the inability to read the amount 
of messages in Thunderbird folders by pressing insert plus num pad 3.



--

lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] website builders/creation tools ad JAWS?

[Dialup @ 56k]

I work in Notepad ++ and occasionally Dreamweaver, but DW is a bit of a 
challenge.


However to do this, you actually need to learn how to code in HTML and 
CSS which isn't hard at all and IMO, much better than using page 
building software.


Pages created by these 'page builders' are usually not all that 
accessible and are very big files.

Glen

---

On 1-Sep-2017 10:51 am, David Ferrin wrote:

I wrote mine completely in  notepad.

-Original Message- From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] website builders/creation tools ad JAWS?

Hey everyone.

I'm looking at finally building a website. Just wondering what tools
everyone out there uses? I had some success with EZHTML in the past, I
think, but that's a really old programme and I never did put most of that
stuff up on the web. My girlfriend has a licensed copy of Ewisoft Website
Builder. It doesn't really seem like a great piece of software, from the
little I've examined, but has anyone worked with it before? Just looking 
for

a few tips to really get started.



Thanks.





For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] vacation

[Dialup @ 56k]

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Vacation mode

[Dialup @ 56k]

Can anyone help with vacation mode commands please?

Can't seem to find them on the Help page.

Glen

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Accessible Partition Creating Programs

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello Mike.
Not the answer you wanted, but having the data partition on the same 
drive as you operating system defeats the purpose, in that if your OS 
drive crashes, you loose your data as well.
Given that your OS drive does most of the work, it's the one more likely 
to crash.

IMO, better / much safer to have a second separate drive for data.
Glen


---
On 19-Jul-2017 9:47 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I would like to partition my wifes new Lenovo Windows 7 OS drive, so she
will have a data storage drive as well, but Partition Asisstant Pro isn't
accessible with Jaws.  Would y'all please tell me what program I should use
to get this partition created?  Will the Windows disk management tool handle
this?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] McAfee Removal

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello Mike,
The only safe way to remove any of these weeds is to use the un install 
tool provided by the specific vendor.
In your case, it's called "McAfee Consumer Products Removal tool"; can't 
speak on it's accessibility at all.

HTH
Glen


---
On 14-Jul-2017 12:57 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit with Jaws 15.  How the heck do you remove
McAfee?!  How do you shut the program totally down?!  I'm trying very hard
to remove McAfee, but it's becoming a real pain!  All advice will be greatly
appreciated!  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Authorizing Jaws

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello Mike.
Good question.  Personally, when I have to do such things, I always 
remove the authorisation before I start, and re authorise when I'm done.

Maybe not necessary, but as they say:  'Measure twice, cut once'
Glen

---

On 13-Jul-2017 11:06 am, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I'm going to clone my current Windows 7 operating system from a mechanical
drive to a solid state drive, so in doing this will Jaws notice the hardware
change, & require reauthorization of all versions of Jaws installed to this
operating system?  I know the question sounds like a no brainer, but not
having ever done this I want to make sure, so I have authorization keys
available when necessary.  Also, is it possible to reauthorize Jaws using a
dongle?  If so how is reauthorizing Jaws with a dongle done?  All help will
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] disk defragmenter

[Dialup @ 56k]

Just to add to the disk de frag question, solid state drives don't 
require this process either.


And IMO, it's a bit over rated for most conventional / spinning HDD's. 
Running defrag too often can have a detrimental effect on the drive, 
particularly if it's already nearing its 'end of live'.

Glen


---
On 17-Jun-2017 12:50 pm, Scorpio wrote:

Hi Kevin,

You don't need one as Windows 10 automatically defragments your drive as 
you go along, in other words, it's a running process now, as opposed to 
you doing it manually, hence why people tell you that a defragmenter 
isn't worth it.


Scorpio

-Original Message- From: Kevin
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disk defragmenter

what is the best and most accessible with jaws 18 latest running windows 
10 17 03

a lot of people I know say that windows disk defrag really is no good!
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single

[Dialup]

Hello Mr Ed
Groan.  Don't you hate PC's when they behave way outside the spec.
So there's something going on that 'over rides' the default settings.
What about deleting the normal.dotx template file from Windows Explorer.
Word 'should' rebuild it the next time you launch it.  I say 'should' 
with trepidation.

YMMV.
Good luck
Glen

---
On 2-Jun-2017 11:34 am, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi Glen,
I have done that same procedure numerus times on two different computers I own. 
It does not change it to single line spacing. I had Microsoft Disability line 
look at it and they could not get it to work either. I tried doing it on both 
my computers and it does the same thing. It does not default to single line 
spacing. The only way I can get it to type in single line spacing is put 1 in 
the box and check the box about line spacing for paragraph and then press ok. 
Then it will type in single line spacing until I close word and reopen a new 
word document and then it is back to double line spacing even though it says 
single line spacing in the dialog box.
Thanks for your help and assistance.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: Dialup@56k [mailto:dialup...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 6:41 PM
To: Mr. Ed
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single

Mr Ed
Try this:
Press Alt + P, PG to open the paragraph options box.
Press Alt + A to move the focus to the Line Spacing At box and enter the number 
1.
Press TAB to move the focus to the Defaults button and press enter.
In the pop up window, press Alt + A to select the radio button labelled 'All 
Documents based on the Normal.dotm template'
TAB to the OK button and press enter.
Restart Word and see how that goes.
Glen

---

On 2-Jun-2017 9:27 am, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi,
Did that but it still did not save single line spacing as the default
when opening a new word document.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to
single

try changing the paragraph settings while you have the normal.dot
template open, then save the file.

---
I am, therefore I think.
Ande
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/





For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Dialup]

Actually, I don't think g mail uses POP these days, could be wrong.
But as the Jeff said, IMAP is much more versatile than POP.
Glen


---
On 25-May-2017 12:27 pm, Audiobookfan wrote:
I'm not sure what might be going wrong, but if you want to access your 
mail on both your phone and your computer, you might want to consider 
using IMAP rather than POP3.


Jeff


On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get 
when I try to download my Email from Gmail.


Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. 
Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, 
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, 
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18


What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235=1 



Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real 
time.


POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or 
Enable

POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter 
mail.domain.com,

then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering 
how do I

go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Optional hyphens

[Dialup]

Wayne
Have you tried Find and Replace, Ctrl + H

Glen

---
On 13-May-2017 8:30 am, wayne smith wrote:

Hello all-

I just ran into something new for me.  I scanned an article using Openbook
and the result is filled with divisions in words that jaws is reading as
"optional hyphen" and there are loads of them.  I know how to use Find and
Replace in MS Word 2007 but what do I do if I want to replace all of the
optional hyphens with nothing?  Is there a way.



Thanks in advance for any help.



Wayne

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] the creators update

[Dialup]

On the previous version of Win 10, I had a KB shortcut of WinKey + R, p 
to access the shut down menu.

The key combination is now WinKey + R, U.
As I'm not a gamer, a lot of the changes don't matter to me.
Glen


---
On 11-Apr-2017 9:17 pm, Kevin wrote:

any settings we need to change , or are the settings we set pretty much
carry over from the previous build of windows 10?

-Original Message- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the creators update

Well I figure if this computer thing ever punks out I can always fall back
on something more practical.

-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the creators update

Tech savvy, list owner, peace keeper, and cooks, too.  What a treasure.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 4/10/2017 4:46 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

Quite an easy process, nothing more than a normal upgrade of windows
10. It is quite large and takes an extensive amount of time. So I
started the process and then prepared my French onion soup as such
feeding my family along with updating all of the systems in the house.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] the creators update

[Dialup]

On the previous version of Win 10, I had a KB shortcut of WinKey + R, p 
to access the shut down menu.

The key combination is now WinKey + R, U.
As I'm not a gamer, a lot of the changes don't matter to me.
Glen


---
On 11-Apr-2017 9:17 pm, Kevin wrote:

any settings we need to change , or are the settings we set pretty much
carry over from the previous build of windows 10?

-Original Message- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the creators update

Well I figure if this computer thing ever punks out I can always fall back
on something more practical.

-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the creators update

Tech savvy, list owner, peace keeper, and cooks, too.  What a treasure.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 4/10/2017 4:46 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

Quite an easy process, nothing more than a normal upgrade of windows
10. It is quite large and takes an extensive amount of time. So I
started the process and then prepared my French onion soup as such
feeding my family along with updating all of the systems in the house.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] convert html to css

[Dialup]

Lenny
CSS is nothing more than instructional code to control how HTML behaves.
Your web page is written / structured using HTML.
How that structure looks and behaves is controlled by CSS code.
Hope this helps.
Glen



On 07-Apr-2017 8:45 am, Lenny McHugh wrote:

Glen, my web page is written in html. I want to convert it to css for
both compliance and to give the option for the viewer to change color
and font size.

-Original Message- From: Dialup@56k
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert html to css

Lenny

CSS code is instruction code defining how html code will look / behave.
They are two, although related, separate entities.
You MIGHT be able to write html without CSS but it would be hard work
and would not comply with any current W3C standards.
Glen

---
On 06-Apr-2017 1:27 pm, Lenny McHugh wrote:

Is there a utility that will convert my html web page to css? I think
that I
have over 20 pages or files that would have to be manually rewritten. I
stumble through html it would take me a very long time to try and
rewrite in
css. It would be nice if such an animal exists that it also would be jaws
friendly. I would like to add the option for people to change both
color and
font sizes for readability.


---

Please visit my web page

It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] convert html to css

[Dialup]

Lenny

CSS code is instruction code defining how html code will look / behave.
They are two, although related, separate entities.
You MIGHT be able to write html without CSS but it would be hard work 
and would not comply with any current W3C standards.

Glen

---
On 06-Apr-2017 1:27 pm, Lenny McHugh wrote:

Is there a utility that will convert my html web page to css? I think that I
have over 20 pages or files that would have to be manually rewritten. I
stumble through html it would take me a very long time to try and rewrite in
css. It would be nice if such an animal exists that it also would be jaws
friendly. I would like to add the option for people to change both color and
font sizes for readability.


---

Please visit my web page

It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Interference by letter G

[Dialup]

Sounds like you have a dodgy switch under your keyboard's letter G.
Turn you keyboard upside down, and give it a controlled but ascertive shake.
You could also spray clean air under the keys, but, do not spray 
anything onto / under the keys other than clean air.

Glen

***

On 08-Mar-2017 1:36 pm, Judy Jones wrote:

This is really strange, and I don't know the cause, but every once in a
while, for instance when I am writing in a Word document, or, if I am in the
subject or message of an e-mail.  When it comes to spelling a word with the
letter G in it.  Once I tap the G, the open-programs sounds, and Jaws goes
silent.  I have no idea what is going on, but know it has to do with the
Letter G.  To get out of that dilemma, I have to unload then reload Jaws.



Thanks for any ideas.



Judy

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] list memo FYI

[Dialup]

David,
With such 'accusations', logic and fact are the first casualties.
Keep up the good work; this list is a valuable international resource.
Glen

***

On 02-Mar-2017 12:04 pm, wayne smith wrote:

We have full confidence in you.  Your accuser is either mistaken or doing 
something to screw up their own account.  I am sure they will be offering a 
heartfelt apology in the near future.  You and the other JAWS Musketeers are 
tops in my book.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] list memo FYI

I have been accused of doing something on the server side of things to mess 
with a members’ email account. This is not only false but frankly impossible.

Never the less this only confirms a saying I came up with many years ago, “if 
you want somebody to think you’re lying tell them the truth”.

We have never engaged in such practices or shared a persons’ email information 
with anybody. The membership list is only available to the three of us and that 
is all.

Just stating my point for the record gang. Honestly though I have long since 
stopped caring about what other people say about me as my actions speak for 
themselves. If you don’t know me by my actions then you aren’t paying attention.

Enjoy your collective evenings with your families as I am going to do myself, I 
believe there is a hockey game on tonight.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] New keystroke

[Dialup]

Not working on Win 7 64 bit, JFW 18.
Glen

***

On 22-Feb-2017 11:46 am, Mike B. wrote:

Howdy,

I just tried it with Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16 thru J18, & couldn't get the
keystroke to work with any version.  Am I missing something?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: DGH
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New keystroke


Yes, it does work on prior versions of Windows.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New keystroke

Good evening Jaws users group. I have been working today, on the next lesson
for the W-10 and Jaws group called, The Control and ALT keys, your best
friend. I learned a new keystroke myself today. If you are like me, there
may be times where you have six or more windows opened at the same time on
your computer. If you press, Ctrl + Alt + Tab, and then use the right and
left Arrow keys to see all the open windows on your computer, press Enter on
the window you want to have focus, you will land in that window. This is
fantastic, of course, you can ALT+Tab to the window you want as well. I like
learning new keystrokes for different situations. I am not sure if this will
work on prior versions of Windows, let me know. Happy learning! Smiles. Jim







A Ballast for My Soul

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS repair method

[Dialup]

Thanks Artur, good information.
Glen

***

On 20-Feb-2017 6:56 pm, Artur Räpp wrote:

Hi,

You can press shft+application instead of shft+f10 too if shft+application is 
more convinient. But not every keyboard has application key.
Shft+application and shft+f10 give extended context menu. For example Extended 
context menu has more Send to entries as standard context menu too.

Ps
Windows XP doesn't have Copy as path in the extended context menu, maybe 
Windows Vista too, cant remember.

Artur
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS repair method

Hi. I'm writing to explain the new JAWS repair method I learned today from VFO. 
Previously, I'd taken the file of the currently running JAWS build, put it in 
the C drive, copied the exact wording into a Windows run dialog, etc. this 
procedure failed twice for me today. VFO seems to know about this because when 
I called, they had me follow the procedure I'll detail below, and it worked. I 
don't know why it is different, but somehow it is. So, here goes.

First, make sure you have the .exe file on your system for the JAWS build 
you're running. You can download it from the FS/VFO website.

Unlike before, it doesn't seem to matter where you keep it on your system.

Close all running apps.

Highlight the JAWS .exe file.

Press shift-F10.

Arrow up to "Copy as path." Press enter.

Open the run dialog with Windows key-r.

Press control-v, then spacebar, then / (the forward slash key), then the word "type", 
spacebar, and then the word "repair."

Let me try that command line a different way. After pressing control-v followed 
by the spacebar, continue with /type repair

Then press enter.

The process went more smoothly than any JAWS repair I can remember, and it went 
all the way to the end.

I hope this is useful.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] here is how I repair jaws, and it works all the time, and I don't have to do much.

[Dialup]

Hello Mike,
I seem to remember that on keyboards set to GB rather than US, the left 
ALT and SHIFT keys behaved differently to the right side keys.
Given the mass confusion on this topic over the last few days, it might 
be wise to specify LEFT and be done with it.

I'll check later today and post back.
Glen
p.s. Just wondering:  Does an i bar stool come with i bar stool tunes?

***

On 19-Feb-2017 12:41 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

Yes it does, but I only posted using the left shift key out of habit.  I
will start posting that it will work with either shift key just so people
will know it's not left shift key dependent.  Thanks for letting others know
that.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dialup@56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] here is how I repair jaws, and it works all the
time, and I don't have to do much.


Thanks Mike.  That's a great Title for a Menu !!
Fantastic new piece of information.
FYI, it also works with the Right Shift Key, but I suspect this is
dependent on the Windows setting for KB region, could be misguided here.
Windows 7 here as well; I've just about removed Win 10 from all the PC's
in this house, only one to go.
Glen

***

On 19-Feb-2017 10:19 am, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

It's called the, Extended Context Menu, keystroke.  You can also use the,
Left Shift key + the Application key, to open the extended context menu.
I'm only speaking for Windows 7 since I don't run Widows 10.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dialup@56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] here is how I repair jaws, and it works all the
time, and I don't have to do much.


Thanks for the clarification Adrian.
One interesting thing I found in simulating your instructions was that
the 'Copy as Path' option is only available from the Shift + F10 menu.
I'd always assumed that Shift + F10, the Application key and the right
mouse button provided access to the same menu.
However, I now discover this is not always the case.
You learn something new every day.
Thanks again Adrian.
Glen

***

On 19-Feb-2017 12:37 am, Adrian Spratt wrote:

First, make sure you have the .exe file on your system for the JAWS build
you're running. You can download it from the FS/VFO website.
Unlike before, it doesn't seem to matter where you keep it on your
system.
Close all running apps.
Highlight the JAWS .exe file.
Press shift-F10.
Arrow up to "Copy as path." Press enter.
Open the run dialog with Windows key-r.
Press control-v, then spacebar, then / (the forward slash key), then the
word "type", spacebar, and then the word "repair."
Let me try that command line a different way. After pressing control-v
followed by the spacebar, continue with /type repair
Then press enter.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] here is how I repair jaws, and it works all the time, and I don't have to do much.

[Dialup]

Thanks Mike.  That's a great Title for a Menu !!
Fantastic new piece of information.
FYI, it also works with the Right Shift Key, but I suspect this is 
dependent on the Windows setting for KB region, could be misguided here.
Windows 7 here as well; I've just about removed Win 10 from all the PC's 
in this house, only one to go.

Glen

***

On 19-Feb-2017 10:19 am, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

It's called the, Extended Context Menu, keystroke.  You can also use the,
Left Shift key + the Application key, to open the extended context menu.
I'm only speaking for Windows 7 since I don't run Widows 10.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dialup@56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] here is how I repair jaws, and it works all the
time, and I don't have to do much.


Thanks for the clarification Adrian.
One interesting thing I found in simulating your instructions was that
the 'Copy as Path' option is only available from the Shift + F10 menu.
I'd always assumed that Shift + F10, the Application key and the right
mouse button provided access to the same menu.
However, I now discover this is not always the case.
You learn something new every day.
Thanks again Adrian.
Glen

***

On 19-Feb-2017 12:37 am, Adrian Spratt wrote:

First, make sure you have the .exe file on your system for the JAWS build
you're running. You can download it from the FS/VFO website.
Unlike before, it doesn't seem to matter where you keep it on your system.
Close all running apps.
Highlight the JAWS .exe file.
Press shift-F10.
Arrow up to "Copy as path." Press enter.
Open the run dialog with Windows key-r.
Press control-v, then spacebar, then / (the forward slash key), then the
word "type", spacebar, and then the word "repair."
Let me try that command line a different way. After pressing control-v
followed by the spacebar, continue with /type repair
Then press enter.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] here is how I repair jaws, and it works all the time, and I don't have to do much.

[Dialup]

Thanks for the clarification Adrian.
One interesting thing I found in simulating your instructions was that 
the 'Copy as Path' option is only available from the Shift + F10 menu.
I'd always assumed that Shift + F10, the Application key and the right 
mouse button provided access to the same menu.

However, I now discover this is not always the case.
You learn something new every day.
Thanks again Adrian.
Glen

***

On 19-Feb-2017 12:37 am, Adrian Spratt wrote:

First, make sure you have the .exe file on your system for the JAWS build 
you're running. You can download it from the FS/VFO website.
Unlike before, it doesn't seem to matter where you keep it on your system.
Close all running apps.
Highlight the JAWS .exe file.
Press shift-F10.
Arrow up to "Copy as path." Press enter.
Open the run dialog with Windows key-r.
Press control-v, then spacebar, then / (the forward slash key), then the word "type", 
spacebar, and then the word "repair."
Let me try that command line a different way. After pressing control-v followed 
by the spacebar, continue with /type repair
Then press enter.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Anti-virus software

[Dialup]

IMO, the most reliable anti virus program is eternal vigilance, closely 
followed by the default Microsoft program.

Glen

***

On 09-Feb-2017 10:18 am, Adam Ferguson wrote:

Hello all.

I appreciate that this question has probably been asked numerous times
before so I apologise.

What, from your experience, is the best anti-virus software in
relation to compatibility with JAWS?  If it makes any difference I am
currently running Windows 10 and JAWS 18 Pro.

Many thanks as always,

Adam.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Outlook Question

[Dialup]

MS Outlook comes as part of a paid version of the Microsoft Office 
Suite, which suite varies from country to country.
Outlook Express was free in its day, as part of the operating system, 
but is now only available as an install.

Glen

***

On 09-Feb-2017 9:58 am, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

To All:

I have Windows 10, JAWS 17, and Office 13. Can anyone tell me if MS Outlook is 
free, or is it a purchase with Office? I currently use Windows Live Mail for my 
email useage. Thanks.

Jerry
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Are Adobe Dream weaver cs5 and Adobe indesign cs4 accessible with Jaws 16?

[Dialup]

I've had a bit of a play with Dream Weaver.

If you are starting with a good knowledge of the structure of HTML and 
CSS code, it's kind of doable, but it you're starting from scratch, it 
might be a bit of a challenge.
If it's just HTML and CSS code you are writing, a good text editor would 
be easier.

Glen

***
On 07-Feb-2017 9:28 am, Teresa Arroyo Llosa wrote:

Hello all,

Using Windows 8.1-64 and latest Jaws 16.

As I mentioned before, I am doing some softwere couses online, and two, which I 
haven’t started yet, are Adobe dreamweaver cs5 and Adobe indesign cs4. Are 
these programs accessible with Jaws 16?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Teresa Arroyo Llosa

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws side memory

[Dialup]

Thanks Mike, but I've learned over time that it doesn't do to take ones 
self too seriously.

Glen

***

On 02-Feb-2017 11:45 am, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

New at it, & you got your 1st computer in 1991!  Dude you are 1 hell of a
seasoned veteran!  Got 15 years on me easy!  LOL  LOL

It isn't, side, memory they're referring to, but, size, memory.I could
see where they thought Jaws was saying, side, instead of, size, they do
sound really close.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dialup@56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws side memory


Hmmm, side memory.  Can't say I've heard of it, but I'm new to this
computer stuff only getting my first one in 1991.
Glen

***

On 02-Feb-2017 10:16 am, Tom Clary wrote:

 has happened to me numerous times

On 2/1/17, Judy <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I'm sure we aren't alone at all; it's just that people like us are
probably
mostly  quiet. When someone does ask a simple question often it is not
answered. There was a guy who asked how to do something about a week
ago...don't remember the question anymore...but I never saw ny answer to
him
unless they answered off list.  J



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws side memory

 thanks for letting me know that I'm not alone in my liferaft, lol

On 2/1/17, Judy <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Tom, absolutely; I have no idea in the world what side memory means.
Apparently it doesn't matter as it has never come up for me so I don't

need

it for work. Maybe I'll write and ask the simple question about what it
is
and see if any of these high tech people take the time to inform me.
Have

a

great day! J


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 6:00 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws side memory

I have no idea if you've checked out the posts from the users list, but
like
I told you when we first began mailing, quite a lot of the posts on the
jaws
users and bob's list are functions that the average pc user knows
nothing
about, and here it is almost 5 AM, and there were 11 replies to the jaws
side memory question. if I knew a great deal about how programs work,
I'd
create a list for people like me, who only have basic pc knowledge, and
someone like you, bob, raymond, and so many others can have an advanced
list. I've vented enough, have a good day.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws side memory

[Dialup]

Hmmm, side memory.  Can't say I've heard of it, but I'm new to this 
computer stuff only getting my first one in 1991.

Glen

***

On 02-Feb-2017 10:16 am, Tom Clary wrote:

 has happened to me numerous times

On 2/1/17, Judy  wrote:

I'm sure we aren't alone at all; it's just that people like us are probably
mostly  quiet. When someone does ask a simple question often it is not
answered. There was a guy who asked how to do something about a week
ago...don't remember the question anymore...but I never saw ny answer to
him
unless they answered off list.  J



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws side memory

 thanks for letting me know that I'm not alone in my liferaft, lol

On 2/1/17, Judy  wrote:

Tom, absolutely; I have no idea in the world what side memory means.
Apparently it doesn't matter as it has never come up for me so I don't

need

it for work. Maybe I'll write and ask the simple question about what it
is
and see if any of these high tech people take the time to inform me. Have

a

great day! J


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 6:00 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws side memory

I have no idea if you've checked out the posts from the users list, but
like
I told you when we first began mailing, quite a lot of the posts on the
jaws
users and bob's list are functions that the average pc user knows nothing
about, and here it is almost 5 AM, and there were 11 replies to the jaws
side memory question. if I knew a great deal about how programs work, I'd
create a list for people like me, who only have basic pc knowledge, and
someone like you, bob, raymond, and so many others can have an advanced
list. I've vented enough, have a good day.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Size Memory Not Being Retained

[Dialup]

I agree Mike, it is weird.  I have a bit of a theory which of course I 
can't prove, but the resizing issue seems to re appear after certain

windows updates.
I've just got into the hobbit of pressing Alt + space, X every time I 
open IE or Windows Explorer, just in case.
These two are the worst offenders for me, closely followed by Word and 
Excel.
I seem to remember Outlook is a bit the same but I gave up on that 
nonsense yonks ago.

Glen

***

On 01-Feb-2017 5:12 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Glen,

Well, that's what's weird!  All our Windows 7 computers will retain window
size settings even without a 3rd party program I have installed on them
running, but other people's computers won't do it!  That's why I'm wondering
if there's a setting that controls this memory function.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dialup@56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Size Memory Not Being Retained


It's my experience that this random resizing of windows has been present
in versions of Windows since 3.1.
Microsoft either don't know how to fix it, or don't see it as a problem
/ don't care.
Glen

***

On 01-Feb-2017 4:11 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

An acquaintance running Windows 7 pro 64 bit, Jaws 16, & Office 2016 is
having a problem with her computer not remembering Window size settings
during a current session.  i.e, if she maximizes document in Word, or
maximizes other windows using the, Windows key + up arrow, or the, Alt,
Enter, + X, keystrokes she says that she has to maximize these same
windows
everytime she opens them.  Personally I use a 3rd party program, so I
never
have this problem, & don't have a clue as to what the answer is to make
her
system remember current session window settings.  If anyone has an answer
for this, would you please share?  All help & input will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Size Memory Not Being Retained

[Dialup]

It's my experience that this random resizing of windows has been present 
in versions of Windows since 3.1.
Microsoft either don't know how to fix it, or don't see it as a problem 
/ don't care.

Glen

***

On 01-Feb-2017 4:11 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

An acquaintance running Windows 7 pro 64 bit, Jaws 16, & Office 2016 is
having a problem with her computer not remembering Window size settings
during a current session.  i.e, if she maximizes document in Word, or
maximizes other windows using the, Windows key + up arrow, or the, Alt,
Enter, + X, keystrokes she says that she has to maximize these same windows
everytime she opens them.  Personally I use a 3rd party program, so I never
have this problem, & don't have a clue as to what the answer is to make her
system remember current session window settings.  If anyone has an answer
for this, would you please share?  All help & input will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to create a new sheet in Excel 2010

[Dialup]

To add a new sheet in Excel, use Shift + F11, but it's not a JAWS 
command, just a good old Windows / DOS one.

Glen

***

On 25-Jan-2017 9:09 am, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi Group,

Does anyone know the Jaws command to create a new sheet in Excel 2010? I
have and Excel spread sheet with many sheets on it. I need to create a new
sheet.

Thanks in advance.

Mr. Ed

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png to .doc?

[Dialup]

Have you run an Optical Character Recognition (OCR) program on your file?
This is how I would do it, currently with Abbyy Fine Reader.
Glen

***

On 14-Jan-2017 7:21 am, Kimsan wrote:

Is it possible to convert a .png file to a readable format? This .png file I
have has text in it which I'd like to access and read all about it.





Thanks.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@icloud.com



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] program to get song information and write metadata?

[Dialup]

Adrian,
Have you tried Foobar2000.
It's mostly accessible, but a little quirky.
Glen

***

On 08-Jan-2017 2:18 pm, Adam Morris wrote:

Hi all,

Looking for a program that works well with Jaws.

I have a number of songs that have incorrect tag information so are
identified incorrectly by iTunes and therefore my iPhone.

Does anyone know of a program where I can get the correct tag
information for these songs?

I've tried mp3 tag but it doesn't get correct information.






For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Tradeoffs with Abby FineReader from Kurzweil 1000

[Dialup]

I also used Omni Page for many years, but gave up when OP Ultimate was 
released; I found if to be an ultimate failure.


I now use Abbyy and while it's a bit clunky in places, I get very good 
OCR results, particularly with tables, much better than OP as it turns out.

Glen

***

On 05-Jan-2017 9:37 am, Gene Warner wrote:

Agreed, Abby Fine Reader is the OCR engine Open Book uses and I get
consistently very good results from it.

I started off using OmniPage at the recommendations from the
rehabilitation center I went to. More often than not I was very
dissatisfied with the results I got from it. So I eventually abandoned
it in favor of Open Book.

Anyone want a free OmniPage 18? LOL! ;-)

Cheers!



On 1/4/2017 5:27 PM, Marks, James wrote:

I use ABBYY Fine Reader version 10 Professional Edition.  The version
I'm using is 7 years old, so I'm sure there are more recent versions
available.  It works pretty well with Jaws 18 and Windows 7-10,
although it takes some getting used to.  These days, I mostly use my
KNFB Reader app on my Moto Z Force smart phone or the OCR function of
the HIMS Blaze ET for reading print.  I also use the OCR function
built in to Jaws for reading most PDF and other image files.  However,
Fine Reader still comes in handy in converting PDF to a Word file with
the layout preserved well in the new accessible document.  It's also
great for scanning larger amounts of material through a scanner
equipped with a document feeder.  Fine Reader is a very powerful
tool.  It does far more than I can make it do due to limitations of
the assistive technology and the features that compare images and
machine readable text.  It's really designed for sighted users, but it
works very well for me as a blind user, too.


Jim Marks
jimma...@mt.gov
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tradeoffs with Abby FineReader from Kurzweil 1000

Hello list,

I have Kurzweil 1000 and am considering switching to Abby FineReader
for my desktop OCR needs. I've never really got use to the K1000
commands or interface and a lot of the extras that K1000 offers simply
aren't of interest to me. Included calculator, calendar, database look
up, etc.

Like everyone else on these lists I imagine, my main interest is OCR
accuracy which from my understanding shouldn't be a problem since
K1000 and OpenBook use the FineReader OCR engine anyway.

As a Jaws user, I am also interested to know of any possible issues or
drawbacks/compromises one might encounter when using Abby FineReader
as opposed to K1000.

Between my iPhone with a ScanStand and the Jaws OCR feature I find
myself using or needing a standalone desktop solution less and less,
but for those times I do need one or wish to use for more involved
scans, I'd like to be able to use something where I don't have to
remember a completely different set of other commands and settings
like in K1000.

I am using JFW 18 on both Windows 10 and 7 computers.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Interesting Thunderbird issue

[Dialup]

Agree, it's definitely weird.
After closing TB with Alt+F4, JFW stops responding to about 50% of key 
presses, particularly the Win key which makes it a bit interesting to 
Power Off / Restart.
This is a new install of Windows 10 with all the current updates. 
Nothing much else installed but OpenBook 9 and TB; still using IE 11 but 
that's a cat of a different colour !!

Glen

***

On 24-Dec-2016 11:05 am, Gene Warner wrote:

That is strange, I always close Thunderbird with the Alt + F4 keyboard
combination and never have any strange behavior from JAWS because of it.



On 12/23/2016 6:34 PM, Dialup@56k wrote:

Compliments of the Season to you all, whatever you celebrate at this
time of the year.

I've observed an interesting issue with TB and JFW 18 where JFW is
flakey after closing TB with Alt+F4.
The interesting bit is that if you close TB from the file menu, Alt F,
X, JFW behaves normally.
This does not happen every time, but often enough to cause me to use the
alternate shutdown method.
FYI.
Glen


On 24-Dec-2016 9:51 am, r...@q.com wrote:

Minimizing the document after opening another does not put focus on the
newly opened document.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016 document focus
problem

Try alt space then the letter n to cminimize the current windoe and
see if
yours comes up.  If not, then just alt tab until you get to the new
document.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of r...@q.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016 document focus
problem

Yes, I still have the problem when working with already named documents.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016 document focus
problem

I've encountered something similar in Word 2010. But once I name the new
document, I can switch back and forth without a problem. Does what you
describe with Word 2016 happen after you've named the newly opened
document?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of r...@q.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016 document focus problem

Hi,

I am running JFW 18, Windows 10, and MS Word 2016.

When I open a document when another document is already open I have a
lot of
trouble getting Jaws to focus on the newly opened document.  Jaws+T says
that I am in the new document.  However, Jaws will not read the
document and
focus returns to the previous document.

Sometimes I can move the Jaws cursor to text in the newly opened
document
and route the PC cursor to the Jaws cursor.  However, this only works
part
of the time.

Sometimes I can resolve the problem by alt-tabbing to another program
and
then alt-tabbing back to the newly opened document.  But, again, this
works
only part of the time.

Sometimes I can resolve the problem by restarting Jaws.

I have tried going back to the default user settings
(control+spacebar, Z).
That does not resolve the problem.

Does anyone have any ideas?


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Interesting Thunderbird issue

[Dialup]

Compliments of the Season to you all, whatever you celebrate at this 
time of the year.


I've observed an interesting issue with TB and JFW 18 where JFW is 
flakey after closing TB with Alt+F4.
The interesting bit is that if you close TB from the file menu, Alt F, 
X, JFW behaves normally.
This does not happen every time, but often enough to cause me to use the 
alternate shutdown method.

FYI.
Glen


On 24-Dec-2016 9:51 am, r...@q.com wrote:

Minimizing the document after opening another does not put focus on the
newly opened document.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016 document focus problem

Try alt space then the letter n to cminimize the current windoe and see if
yours comes up.  If not, then just alt tab until you get to the new
document.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of r...@q.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016 document focus problem

Yes, I still have the problem when working with already named documents.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016 document focus problem

I've encountered something similar in Word 2010. But once I name the new
document, I can switch back and forth without a problem. Does what you
describe with Word 2016 happen after you've named the newly opened document?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of r...@q.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016 document focus problem

Hi,

I am running JFW 18, Windows 10, and MS Word 2016.

When I open a document when another document is already open I have a lot of
trouble getting Jaws to focus on the newly opened document.  Jaws+T says
that I am in the new document.  However, Jaws will not read the document and
focus returns to the previous document.

Sometimes I can move the Jaws cursor to text in the newly opened document
and route the PC cursor to the Jaws cursor.  However, this only works part
of the time.

Sometimes I can resolve the problem by alt-tabbing to another program and
then alt-tabbing back to the newly opened document.  But, again, this works
only part of the time.

Sometimes I can resolve the problem by restarting Jaws.

I have tried going back to the default user settings (control+spacebar, Z).
That does not resolve the problem.

Does anyone have any ideas?


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

[Dialup]

OK John, there's goes my theory of prior versions corrupting the install
.
I must admit I now never do updates; always clean installs after first 
removing the previous version/s.
Yes, it's a PITA, but once it's done, that's it.  No more gremlins in 
the night.

Glen

***

On 18-Dec-2016 4:47 am, John Justice wrote:

Good one, Glen.  It was a clean install in both cases.  This is a new
computer and at work, Jaws was loaded from the program disk.  However, I did
simply download and install the latest updates.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSO
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dialup@56k
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

John
Just curious:  Was your JFW 18 a clean install or upgrade from previous
version?
Glen

***

On 17-Dec-2016 1:26 pm, john_Justice wrote:

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this issue.  This
latest build of Jaws 18 seems to lock up quite a bit.  This happens
here at home and at work.  In both cases, I'm using the same jaws and
doing similar things.  Suddenly, Jaws will stop talking.  That happens
especially when I have several screens operating simultaneously.  I'm
wondering if too much RAM is being used and that is what shuts down
Jaws.  It will normally respond to the Start Jaws command but not always.

I'm running Windows 10 64 byt at home and Windows 7 enterprise at
work.  If anyone has some idea of what's going on here, I'd appreciate the

help.




Here's another odd thing.  The longer I type in a message with Outlook
2016, the slower Jaws reacts.  Now, when I finish typing a word, Jaws
repeats it but almost a full second after the last letter is typed.
Why, in Heaven's name, would that happen?









JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net





---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

[Dialup]

John
Just curious:  Was your JFW 18 a clean install or upgrade from previous 
version?

Glen

***

On 17-Dec-2016 1:26 pm, john_Justice wrote:

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this issue.  This latest
build of Jaws 18 seems to lock up quite a bit.  This happens here at home
and at work.  In both cases, I'm using the same jaws and doing similar
things.  Suddenly, Jaws will stop talking.  That happens especially when I
have several screens operating simultaneously.  I'm wondering if too much
RAM is being used and that is what shuts down Jaws.  It will normally
respond to the Start Jaws command but not always.

I'm running Windows 10 64 byt at home and Windows 7 enterprise at work.  If
anyone has some idea of what's going on here, I'd appreciate the help.



Here's another odd thing.  The longer I type in a message with Outlook 2016,
the slower Jaws reacts.  Now, when I finish typing a word, Jaws repeats it
but almost a full second after the last letter is typed.  Why, in Heaven's
name, would that happen?









JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net





---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Dialup]

Hello Miriam
I'm not saying it's been 'dropped', rather it is no longer supported 
which at the moment probably means IE 11 still works most of the time, 
but in the very near future, my opinion is that it will become less 
stable across the internet as web page devs stop maintaining code 
specifically designed to account for IE idiosyncrasies.

Glen

***

On 10-Nov-2016 1:45 pm, Miriam Vieni wrote:

Up until last week, I was using IE10 and various websites were scolding me
for doing so. I'm using IE11 and now all of the websites have stopped
scolding me so I don't think that IE11 has been dropped by Microsoft yet.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

microsoft retired IE 11 and is going with it's new browser Edge!

-Original Message-
From: anna vimini
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

How come all of a sudden their are no updates in windows update for internet
explorer 11?

the last update I got was:

version 11037

Kb3,197,655

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Dialup]

Sorry Anna.
Microsoft has a new internet browser called edge.
Internet Explorer is no longer microsoft's preferred browser so appears 
not be be getting any worthwhile updates from microsoft.

I have personally found IE 11 to be very unstable and unreliable.
You may have a different experience.
Lots of list members report accessibility issues with edge.
Hope this helps.
Glen

***

On 10-Nov-2016 12:14 pm, anna vimini wrote:

Could you please explaine this so it is more clear because I do not
understand what you are trying to say

Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11
Thant's because microsoft want you to use edge which at the moment has
some accessibility issues.
Glen

***

On 10-Nov-2016 11:36 am, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
How come all of a sudden their are no updates in windows update for
internet explorer 11?

the last update I got was:

version 11037

Kb3,197,655

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
block quote end


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Dialup]

Thant's because microsoft want you to use edge which at the moment has 
some accessibility issues.

Glen

***

On 10-Nov-2016 11:36 am, anna vimini wrote:

How come all of a sudden their are no updates in windows update for
internet explorer 11?

the last update I got was:

version 11037

Kb3,197,655

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] update to the tips and tricks page

[Dialup]

Thanks David.
You can't have enough run commands I always say, especially when 
something goes wrong with windoze.

Glen


***


On 26-Oct-2016 10:01 pm, David Ferrin wrote:

I recently came into possession of a rather extensive list of run commands for 
Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 so I just posted it on the basics page under the Windows 
heading.

FYI it is a PDF file contained in a zip archive so it will download instead of 
opening online which to me is sometimes an inconvenience.

I still make modifications from time to time up there, enjoy if you are so 
inclined.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Dialup]

Hello David,
Interesting topic, as I was only thinking the other day just how 
peaceful and 'on topic' the list has been this last month or so.

For me, it's an invaluable resource.
Glen

***

On 12-Oct-2016 10:08 pm, Fred Adams wrote:

David, I want to let you know that I really appreciate this list.  I have been 
on the list almost since its beginning.  I have been bumped off several times 
but I always manage to get back on and the last time I was bumped off it was 
really hard for me to get back on but I finally managed to do it.  I hope you 
will continue as long as you can.  I really appreciate you very much.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw 13

[Dialup]

JFW 17 OR higher.
What's higher than JFW 17 !
Glen


***

On Tue-28-Jun-16 2:00 pm, Josh Kennedy wrote:

no you need at least jaws 17 or higher.




On 6/27/2016 9:13 PM, john wrote:

Hi Does anyone know if JFW13.0 works well with Win 10? Thanks
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw 13

[Dialup]

I think you're out of luck there with JFW13 and Win 10.
Minimum JFW specs for Win 10 were published here but my old brain is 
letting me down, but ver 16 rings a bell; I could be wrong thought.

Glen

On Tue-28-Jun-16 11:13 am, john wrote:

Hi Does anyone know if JFW13.0 works well with Win 10? Thanks
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] del xps13 function keys?

[Dialup]

On most laptops, the function keys have dual functions.
There is the native function, for example, F1 is usually help.
However, when you combine Function keys with the F n key - usually found 
in the bottom left corner near the CTRL key - you get a whole different 
group of actions, depending on the brand of the laptop.

On my Clevo p650se, F n key + F5 / F6 affects the volume.
HTH
Glen

***

On Mon-23-May-16 4:44 pm, Adam Morris wrote:

Hi all,


I'm looking to order one of these.

Someone told me that most of the function keys have their own uses like
volume up, down.

Will there need to be any changes made to bios for someone to use the
unit with Jaws?






For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] webcam

[Dialup]

IMO, the only reliable way to deal with web cam security is to place a 
piece of electricians (plastic) tape across the camera.

Seriously!!
Glen

***


On Thu-07-Apr-16 3:08 pm, John Fitzgerald  wrote:

Hi all,

How can I tell if my webcam is active or not?

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] webcam

[Dialup]

I'd first look in Device Manager > Imagine Device, but if the camera is 
not activated, it might not show up here.
Some laptops have a keyboard shortcut - using the Fn key - to toggle 
camera ON / OFF.

Glen

-***

On Wed-06-Apr-16 12:22 pm, Kimsan wrote:

I can't believe I'm about to ask this but how would I know if my computer
has a webcam? And, before anyone suggest to read my users manual, where is
it. Smile.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] abby fine reader and jaws

[Dialup]

I'be been dealing wigth Abbyy on and off for a while and find it very 
usable, even though it might not be as 'clever' and Omnipage.
As for the dirty download (what ever that means), can't say that has 
been my experience.

Glen

***

On Tue-29-Mar-16 4:01 am, Kimsan wrote:

Huh? when it downloaded, it was dirty,  my system cleaned it up.

What do you mean.   

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 9:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] abby fine reader and jaws

Kimsan,
I downloaded it a while back because it was discuss here and was good as a
backup reader.
One thing, when it downloaded, it was dirty,  my system cleaned it up.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] abby fine reader and jaws

I've often heard from folks abby fine reader does a pretty splendid job.
However, with my experiences I can't seem to be in that club.  What settings
are recommended in abby fine reader to get a good scan?  I just scan into
word but do not look at any of Thanks for any input.



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mobility Center

[Dialup]

Windows + X does nothing in my copy of Win 7.
A search for 'Mobility Center' has a null result in my copy of Win 7.
Glen


***
On Wed-17-Feb-16 3:55 pm, TheHangMan wrote:

Hello,
Sure you can, that key command carried over to the other Windows OS's.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mobility Center

Hi,
You cannot do it that way in Windows 7. That is only for win8 and 10. Have a
great one.


-Original Message-
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mobility Center

Hi,
Press windows X and arrow,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon Becker
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mobility Center

Using jaws 17 with windows 7, how do I find the Windows Mobility Center?
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus.

[Dialup]

My take on this is that it isn't JAWS loosing focus rather than 
something else on your PC randomly 'taking over'.
Notification pop-ups from anti virii or similar scheduled software would 
be prime suspects.

Glen


***

On Fri-22-Jan-16 2:33 pm, Bonnie Lucas wrote:

Hello,
I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have been 
losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could not even 
think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using my phone. 
Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a small Lenovo 
laptop and it has become unbearable.
Thanks for any help!

Sent from my iPhone
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Dialup]

Well, there's never an iron-clad guarantee that something may not go 
wrong in any update process.
In fact, the most common advise you see is to back up your important 
data before undertaking any major update.

And most people regularly update their important data, don't they!
Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 6:08 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:

Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC
last week which had multiple software driver issues.
It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer
Beware'.
Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I
was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates
users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically,
I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I
left
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10
still be
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then
hide
it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is
that if you
leave the settings on windows updates to be performed
automatically, you
won't have any control as to what gets updated.

On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
block quote
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and
recommended.  I never download recommended because I chinstruct
Windows
to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and
install.
If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to go
into the details of each upgrade that is connected to the operating
system, not to your other apps like Word, Defender, etc. There is a
link to more information.  The process can be enlightening if you care
for that kind of detail.

This said, the Win 10 income in the systems tray came as an important
update..I did not scrutinize the important updates.  And so I warily
proceed.

On 12/4/2015 2:38 PM, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
Gerald if I do that I am clue less of which windows updates I should
or shouldm't download.
this is why I was asking which windows update causes the dialogue to
that was mentioned below to appear?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update

To prevent Windows 10 from being installed surreptitiously on your PC
without your knowledge, go to Change Settings in the Windows Update
dialog, and in
the combo box choose the option labeled "check for updates but let me
choose whether to download and install them."  Also, uncheck 

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

[Dialup]

Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen 
automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto.
No, the update is painless.  In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC 
last week which had multiple software driver issues.

It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer 
Beware'.

Glen

***

On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.

You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update

Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being
upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I left
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still be
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then hide
it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is
that if you
leave the settings on windows updates to be performed automatically, you
won't have any control as to what gets updated.

On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
block quote
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and
recommended.  I never download recommended because I chinstruct Windows
to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and install.
If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to go
into the details of each upgrade that is connected to the operating
system, not to your other apps like Word, Defender, etc.  There is a
link to more information.  The process can be enlightening if you care
for that kind of detail.

This said, the Win 10 income in the systems tray came as an important
update..I did not scrutinize the important updates.  And so I warily
proceed.

On 12/4/2015 2:38 PM, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
Gerald if I do that I am clue less of which windows updates I should
or shouldm't download.
this is why I was asking which windows update causes the dialogue to
that was mentioned below to appear?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update

To prevent Windows 10 from being installed surreptitiously on your PC
without your knowledge, go to Change Settings in the Windows Update
dialog, and in
the combo box choose the option labeled "check for updates but let me
choose whether to download and install them."  Also, uncheck the box
labeled "get
recommended updates the same way I receive important updates."

Gerald

-Original Message- From: anna vimini
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:21 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

yes that is all fine but if you are running jaws 15 and windows 10 some
how down loads without your knowledge you are litterally going to be in
a mess.
could some one on 

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to remove the Window 10 upgrade icon.

[Dialup]

David posted the following information a few days ago which might answer 
your question.

Glen
**
I invite you all to check out this web site for yourselves. I have tried the
program he offers for download there to test things out first and they do
work.
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/
David Ferrin


**
On Wed-02-Dec-15 11:16 am, Pinky wrote:

Hi Group,

I got a new W7 pc and I have the W10 upgrade icon down by the clock. How do
I remove it and any other W10 files to keep it out of the windows update
screen? I don't want to download it at this time.



Ed

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] guidelines modified

[Dialup]

Give a man a fish etc etc.
Glen

***

On Sun-15-Nov-15 10:16 am, Alex Stone wrote:

David while I agree that it would be good thing if everyone had the confidence 
to try stuff, it would also put me and a number of other people out of a job.

Sent from my iPhone


On 14 Nov 2015, at 23:10, David Ferrin  wrote:

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 installed; JAWS talking: Stuck: Next step?

[Dialup]

Alt + F4 opens the traditional Shutdown Window in Win 10 but don't tell M$.
They might remove it in the next update.
Glen

***


On Tue-10-Nov-15 11:33 am, Neil Towery  wrote:

  Thanks for this information. I will give it a shot in the morning. Have
been at this a long time today. Using a laptop and slow download speed with
the network. Have chronic back trouble, and it is on fire right now.
Exhausted, but happy.
  By the way, in Win 7, to shut the computer down:
1. Windows key
2. Tab twice to shutdown split button.
3. Space bar for shutdown.
  What are the comparable steps with Win 10?
  Just want you to know that I appreciate your work. It has encouraged me to
be bold. Have just enough knowledge to be dangerous.
  Thanks. Neil


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 installed; JAWS talking: Stuck: Next
step?

Hi Neil,
Good job, I knew you could do it.
Press Windows key+X, the first item is programs and features.
Press enter.
Works the same way as it did in w-7.
Highlight the version of Jaws that you want to uninstall, press enter.
Follow the prompts, keep shared components and shared settings.
Turn narrator on after Jaws is uninstalled with Windows key+Enter.
Press the windows key, up arrow to power, press enter.
Down arrow to restart, press enter.
After a few minutes, press Windows key+enter, to turn narrator on.
Sign-in, use narrator to go to your download folder where you should have
the latest Jaws 16 or 17 already downloaded.
Press enter on the Jaws file, turn narrator off, with, Windows key+enter.
When Jaws finishes installing,
Redo your shortcut keystroke for Jaws.
Redo the Start up on the log-in screen.
For whatever reason these two settings are not kept, all other settings for
Jaws are kept.
No need to restart after the installation of Jaws is complete.
Good luck...



Consider the snow flakes

Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all.
Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small Look
at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures, created for
all.
Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him
your soul.
Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever
you go.
Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die.

Author: Jim Flusche

GO BUCKEYES! Win another National title...
-Original Message-
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 installed; JAWS talking: Stuck: Next step?

Hello Jim or Win 10 USER:

I have gotten Win 10 downloaded. Jaws is talking.

Jim's instructions are below. But, how do I go to "programs and features..?


Cannot tab to it or arrow to it. Am stuck!! Help, please.

Jim's instructions:

Tips on how to do this.

Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17.

Say yes, for your user's account message.

Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings.

If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows

key+enter, restart your computer.

Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows

key+enter.

Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or
17, set up file===

Neil



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Alt + D on Mozilla

[Dialup]

In Mozilla Firefox, the Alt + D key cut moves the focus to the address bar.
HTH.
Glen

On Tue-15-Sep-15 8:36 pm, Tom Clary wrote:

  occasionally when i hit Alt + D, to go to another webpage while using
Mozilla Firefox, the keystroke command doesn't do anything, so i can't
put in another web address, can anyone give me some help on what needs
done?

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] remove formatting in word

[Dialup]

Here are a few keyboard shortcuts I use to remove MS Word formatting.
Select the text, then:
Alt + h e - 'clear formatting' from the ribbon; or
Ctrl + SPACEBAR; or
Ctrl + Q.
HTH.
Glen

***

On Tue-01-Sep-15 11:10 am, Kevin wrote:

thanks I like the second method better!

-Original Message- From: Tim Ford
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] remove formatting in word

To do that, select the text, cut or copy, go to where you want the results,
press the applications key (or shift f10) go down to paste special, and
select text only.

Another option is to do a save-as for the document, and tab to the box
where
you select the format you want; you will see plain text on that list, just
press enter.

Tim Ford


-Original Message- From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] remove formatting in word

I heard that many word shortcut keys have remained the same for each
version
of word!is there a shortcut key to remove any formatting in a word document
this would be bold, itallic, etc.

Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?

[Dialup]

I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a 
fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7.
Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the 
top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent 
accessibility options for low vision users.
I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with 
Win 7.

Glen

***

On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote:

I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant.



1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the
e-mail client at this time.

2.   There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with
Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the
new operating system.

3.   Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
to make the change worth the transition?

4.   Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on?

UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are
concerned.  Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is
it too early to load 10?



John and linda justice

Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net





---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to get Google Chrome

[Dialup]

Last time I looked, Google Chrome was a bit dodgy in the accessibility 
department.

Glen

***

On 8-Aug-15 10:34 am, Dacia Cole wrote:

Hi,

I have JAWS 16 and windows 8.1 I want to download Chrome but when I
click on the download link it just keeps refreshing the page and
doesn't act like I'm able to download it and when I press alt N it
says nothing like save or open.  Is there another way to do it or can
someone email me the file so I can download it?  There are a few
things where Chrome works a bit better for me.

thanks,

Dacia

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

[Dialup]

Windows 10 has to be 'reserved'.
Glen

***

On 30-Jul-15 9:33 am, petras wrote:

Hi, I tried every possible thing to get windows 10 and I can't even
download it.  I never reserved it nor the get windows 10 is there.  I
need help.  I'm using jaws 16.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 start menu

[Dialup]

Lenny,
There are a couple of apps that allow you to run a classic windows start 
menu in win 8.x.

glen


***


On 9-Jul-15 11:33 am, Lenny McHugh wrote:

The computer shop that rebuilt my grandson’s computer made custom changes to
windows. His win 8.1 machine now has the same start menu and button as win
7.
It would be interesting to see how they did that. He did that because of all
the complaints that he had on his new systems.


---

Please visit my web page

It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: upgrading to Windows 10

[Dialup]

I've been investigation s dev copy of Win 10 from the point of keyboard 
shortcuts; I won't throw JFW at it until FS release a patch.

So far, I don't think much of it.  It's just a warmed-over win 8.1
We now refer to it around here at Win 8.2.
Just my opinion folks but I'm buying copies of Win 7 !!
Glen Barwick

***

On 30-Jun-15 4:24 pm, Marek Durila wrote:


Hi,
Stop speculating
win 7 is having support till 2020 and after this will be end. but updates
will come not probably sp or new functions but security updates yes.



  Kind Regards / Mit
  freundlichen Grüßen /
  Üdvözlettel / S
  pozdravem:


  Marek DURILA  (Embedded
  Nordic HC coordinator   image moved
 to file:
pic56893.gif)

   Delivery Center  616 00, Brno
   Central Europe   Technicka 21
  Brno SITE Czech Republic

  (Embedded image moved to
 file: pic09503.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092
Mobile:
E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com




 IBM Global Services
Delivery Center Czech
  Republic, s.r.o.
  Registered address: Brno,
   Technicka 2995/21, Zip
  code: 61600, Company ID:
  26244535
  Entered in the Commercial
   Register maintained by
the Regional Court in
 Brno (Part C, Entry
   39922)

 IBM Global Services
Delivery Center Czech
  Republic, s.r.o.
   Sídlo: Brno, Technická
   2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ:
  26244535
 Zapsaná v obchodním
 rejstříku, vedeném
   Krajským soudem v Brně
oddíl C, vlozka 39922







From:   Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date:   2015-06-30 03:15 AM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re:  upgrading to Windows 10
Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com



That is what I am thinking that will eventually happen - Microsoft not
supporting Windows 7 and then 8.

Then the time will come that they'll want to dump 10. No telling what we'll

have by that time.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo hfia...@rcn.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: upgrading to Windows 10



well in a year people may not have a choice. MS might not support window

7

and 8.


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: upgrading to Windows 10

so then why upgrade!

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: upgrading to Windows 10

John,

You don't give me many reasons to upgrade to Windows 10.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: John Melia 98.1...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 09:02 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10


Not much to write down just good guidelines and you won't have much to
remember.  The new inter browser wont't work with jaws write away so it
might be better to wait a little while before upgrading to windows 10.
Also
you might need sighted help when it is done upgrading to windows.  Jaws
won't start talking.  Use windows key and the enter key to get narrator
talking.  Also if you have any earlier versions of jaws it won't work and
they will not work. They must be removed.  When jaws starts it may need a
repair as well.  Last but not least some of your programs may not work
with
windows 10.  u

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

do you know if that can be viewed as a text document, audio is not the
best
thing for me when needing info!

-Original Message-
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109 before you
jump
into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a clean install or
the
upgrade feature? I realize the official release is not out until July 29
but
there are many folks testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean
install or upgrade 

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10

[Dialup]

Hello Petras,
Windows 10 won't be released until the end of July.
If you are a JAWS user, my opinion is that you should not install 
Windows 10 until there are first-hand reports on it's functionality 
specifically with JAWS, and in general with accessibility.

Glen

***

On 22-Jun-15 7:29 am, petras wrote:

Hi, how do you install windows 10 for free on a toshiba windows 7 computer?

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

[Dialup]

I have a new laptop with Win 8.1 and JFW 16 which will get Win 10 as 
soon as it's released; anything will be better than Win 8.1.
I'll post my observations as soon as I can, but keep in mind it will 
just be my opinion.

Your mileage will vary.
Glen

***

On 21-Jun-15 9:44 am, Rick Justice wrote:

Hi LeDon,
We will have to wait until 10 is released to know for sure.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: LeDon led...@tx.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Here's one thing that I have been wondering about for a  while. When I
upgraded my computer from XP to windows 7, I had to reload everything , my
jaws and office, etc., to my computer because the windows seven wiped out
everything on my computer. I suppose that will happen when I, sometime in
the future, upgrade to windows ten . Have I got that right? LeDon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS

Hi Dave,
If you upgrade your current version of Windows, (Windows 7, 8 or 8.1),
within one (1) year from the release of Windows 10, the upgrade is free.
After that period, Windows 10 will have to be purchased either by download
from Microsoft, or by purchasing a new computer with Windows 10 already
installed.
You would have to consult the Microsoft website for their pricing schedule.
 From what I understand, this will be the last version of Windows,any updates
to it will be mandatory unless you have a premium version installed.
It appears that they are following the model of Apple.
Pay close attention to what I said earlier, this is an upgrade for Windows
users, not an update, there is a big difference.
Now having said that,also keep in mind that any of this info is subject to
change since Windows 10 has not made it to public release yet.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10 and JAWS


Okay, I can hold off on the install. I tried to look for the fine print
somewhere to tell me what I'll eventually have to pay for the update, but
can find nothing. Isn't this going to become an annual subscription for
Windows 10 and subsequent updates?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 06:05 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS


You have a year  to install it for free, so, hold off, until FS has a
version of jaws that is compatible with it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So now
that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30
seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and JAWS

[Dialup @ 56k]

FS have posted on this list several times stating that they will update 
JFW 16 in time for Win 10 release, several times.

Glen

***

On 20-Jun-15 2:58 pm, Dave Carlson wrote:

I just sent a message to i...@freedomscientific.com asking if the current
version of JAWS 16 is compatible with Windows 10. They say it is not. So now
that we've signed up for Windows 10, what do we do with it?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 08:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] one drive


I have windows 8.1, google says it comes preinstalled, so I searched for it
and good grief I got confused; however, it doesn't help that I only spent 30
seconds on it.

Whatever is on my comp, the OneDrive ap, so far, I'm unable to do anything
with it.

I shut down my business a few months ago, and my point there is once you
don't deal with certain things after a while, it slips the mind.  I like
that 15 gig storage thing, because I have the standard for dropbox which
isn't enough.
Take care.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] one drive

It is working rather well. The interface couldn't be much easier. It's like
drop box, pop something in there and it uploads automatically.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I have such the dry sense of humor, David.  Sorry about that.



Like I said, I knew where you were headed with that as well, and I attempted
to be mr funny today.

He apologized and now we all move on.

Hows that OneDrive working for ya.



Have a great evening.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

I point out that it was a rather abusive statement is all. Just wanted to
know why he made it as a curiosity.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!


I shouldn't chime, but I think his point was he doesn't care for vista?

I know where you're headed with that but...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!

What's your point if I may be so bold as to ask?
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: Bob Edenhofer bob.edenho...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws!


Unfortunitly, I’ve got no clue about Vista, therefore, I don’t use it, nor
do I care about vista, because I haven’t heard good things about it!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Windows live mail tutorial link

[Dialup @ 56k]

Here the correct link to the WLM tutorial posted earlier:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html
Glen

On 4-Jun-15 10:59 pm, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Thanks for link.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

- Original Message - From: LeDon led...@tx.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opinions: Windows Live Mail or Outlook 2010



To learn about windows live go to this  windows live guide. It is very
helpful. Here is the link.
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.

html#main-window

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opinions: Windows Live Mail or Outlook 2010

Does Windows Live Mail have similar ways to:

arrange mail in preference order
put in signature line
check time for server to check for mail
set up separate folders
delete en bloc
navigate through a list of mail
add new contacts
set up  distribution lists?

Thanks.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

- Original Message - From: Michael Boyd mike@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opinions: Windows Live Mail or Outlook 2010



Windows Live Mail is very close to Outlook Express. In fact, when you
open



a mail folder, like the inbox in WLM, JAWS reads Inbox - Outlook
Express-



Message list view, or something very similar to this. It is very
evident
that Windows Live Mail was directly developed through some changes to
Outlook Express, and all references to OE were not caught and removed.

Mike
mike@comcast.net



-Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opinions: Windows Live Mail or Outlook 2010

Question? Which is more like Outlook Express - Windows Live Mail or
Outlook
2010? When my husband had Vista, I could not navigate well with Jaws in
Windows Mail.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

- Original Message - From: Dialup @ 56k
dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opinions: Windows Live Mail or Outlook 2010



Hello List,
I have a friend with basic computer skills who is struggling a bit with
Outlook 2010, JFW 16.
I'm wondering if WLM might be easier for him to use as it appears to
have



a simpler user interface.
Thanks in advance for any opinions, experiences, one way or another.
Glen

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Opinions: Windows Live Mail or Outlook 2010

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello List,
I have a friend with basic computer skills who is struggling a bit with 
Outlook 2010, JFW 16.
I'm wondering if WLM might be easier for him to use as it appears to 
have a simpler user interface.

Thanks in advance for any opinions, experiences, one way or another.
Glen

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10

[Dialup @ 56k]

Reserved 24 hours ago; no notification from MS.
AND the download is in the order of 3 GIG.
Ouch.
Glen

***

On 3-Jun-15 2:18 pm, Jim Rawls wrote:

I did the same as you and I think your confirmation will come just before it
is released. Jim

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:58 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10

I reserved a copy of Windows 10 about 4 hours ago and requested confirmation
by E Mail and entered my address but have not received confirmation. What
has been the experience of others?  Thanks, Tom

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 10

[Dialup @ 56k]

My reading of this is that it is not a subscription software model (like 
adobe use).

It is a free upgrade to eligible users.
Glen

***


On 3-Jun-15 2:35 pm, Dave Carlson wrote:

Okay, just jumped in here -- what will this cost, after the first free year?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Dialup @ 56k dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 09:33 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10


Reserved 24 hours ago; no notification from MS.
AND the download is in the order of 3 GIG.
Ouch.
Glen

***

On 3-Jun-15 2:18 pm, Jim Rawls wrote:

I did the same as you and I think your confirmation will come just before
it
is released. Jim

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:58 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10

I reserved a copy of Windows 10 about 4 hours ago and requested
confirmation
by E Mail and entered my address but have not received confirmation. What
has been the experience of others?  Thanks, Tom

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws question for you for organizational purposes

[Dialup @ 56k]

I made the mistake of trying to read the original post.
Writing sans punctuations must be the new thing.
Glen

***

On 28-May-15 9:00 pm, David Ferrin wrote:

I take real exception with your message. I am the web master and all of
those programs are accessible, but some do require more skill than others to
use. Like Rick said don't criticize what you do not know.

If you have specific questions then post them, don't just make blanket
statements.

The department of rehabilitation services has nothing to do with the web
site.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joeylamperis
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws question for you for organizational purposes

Hi list

I have to bring up a topic about jaws and small business use I have major
concerns about your programs listed here that are and are not accessible
with jaws because users are using them first of all why don't you post all
your programs on your website based on the fact that you have had experience
with these programs that are accessible and not accessible with  Jaws also
does the department of rehabilitation services approve of using these
programs or not  because I would never do anything to make my computer crash
your list member Joseph Lamperis Sent from my iPhone For answers to
frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] when in tree view in outlook 2010

[Dialup @ 56k]

You can access the tree / folder view with Ctrl + Y.
Select the required folder, I for inbox and press Enter.
Glen

***

On 17-Apr-15 9:29 am, Pinky wrote:

Hi,
The best way to do this is use the control key + y. This will open a folder
tree view and you can arrow down the list and it will tell you how many
emails are in each folder.  If you want to go to that folder to read the
emails just hit enter on that folder.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of diane giannetti
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] when in treeview in outlook 2010

In the outlook treeview of folders, is there a setting to show how many
emails are in the folder without having to go into each folder.  For
example, in treeview, I would like to hear how many messages I have in each
folder.



Thank you very much in advance.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] text cloner and openbook

[Dialup @ 56k]

I am also looking at OCR options having been an Omnipage user for many 
years.
The latest version of Omnipage, version 19 AKA Ultimage behave really 
badly with MS Word and Excel so I have rejected it.
I have downloaded a trial version of Abbyy Fine Reader and so far it 
does a much better job than Omnipage, particularly scanning into MS Word 
and Excel and importing PDF files.
After some traffic on this list, I also downloaded a copy of Text cloner 
but have had quite a few issues since I installed it.
For instance trying to import a PDF document creates quite a strange 
error response,
followed by This action cannot be completed because the other action is 
running.

What other 'action' you might ask.
Keep in mind that Abbyy Fine Reader and even Omnipage work straight up, 
unlike Text Cloner which I will now delete.
Text Cloner might be cheaper than Fine REader, but IMO that's where the 
advantage ends.

Glen

***


On 27-Feb-15 11:32 AM, Kathy Pingstock wrote:

Good evening,



I wanted to get some opinions in scanning software and what others are using
and opinions between the text cloner and openbook 9



Thank you



Kathy

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users Programs Page

[Dialup @ 56k]

Gerald,
Unfortunately that's quite normal with 'modern' software installers.
It's either Ask or Chrome or a few similar bun unnecessary, but you have 
the option to uncheck the install box during setup, IF of course you can 
find it.

So now you can use C Cleaner to un install chrome.
Glen

***

On 17-Feb-15 9:41 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


I just downloaded the latest version of CCleaner, version 5.0.2, from the JAWS 
Users programs page, and received a very nasty surprise.  In addition to 
installing CCleaner, Google Chrome was also installed, much to my chagrin.  
Using the JAWS cursor to examine the installation options in the user 
interface, I did not come across any check box or other means of preventing 
Google Chrome from being installed along with CCleaner.  I do not remember 
having this problem in the past, so it looks like Puriform is now forcing 
Chrome down your throat whether you want it or not.  Chrome is still not 
especially JAWS accessible, and removing it is a real pain.  Therefore, I 
suggest that a warning be added to the CCleaner download link that downloading 
and installing CCleaner will also result in the installation of Google Chrome, 
which is nothing but unwanted crapware for most JAWS users.

Gerald

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Revo uninstaller professional

[Dialup @ 56k]

I had Revo for a while but decided in the end that it was much too 
aggressive - it caused a few issues over the period - so went back to C 
Cleaner's reg clean option.

Glen

***



On 17-Feb-15 12:02 PM, Alan Robbins wrote:

Well there you go. I guess if I ever need the pro, I'll call
Microsoft and let them do it

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Revo uninstaller professional

Hi Al,

There are some differences between the Pro  Free versions,
the biggest difference is the Pro isn't accessible with
Jaws!  LOL hahaha LOL

I tried the Pro version several months ago  tried working
with it for a couple of hours  said the heck with it  got
my money back.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins
To: Jaws-Users-List
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:20 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Revo uninstaller professional


Well today was my first call to the Windows accessibility
line. Wow, are they both helpful  pleasant. Anyway, I had
attempted to uninstall Turbo Tax 2014 deluxe as I needed a
different version. The uninstall became corrupt. So, I then
tried the Revo uninstaller Mike had talked me into trying
last week. Same thing,  it  reported the program corrupted
and would not install. I tried a repair as well as an
install again all to no avail. So the first thing Microsoft
did was install Revo uninstaller professional. This can be
used free for 30 days but then you need to purchase the
license. The pro version did the trick. So, there must be a
few differences between free  pro. Just wanted to pass this
along.



Al

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] trying to read PDF files from a Yahoo groups filesection

[Dialup @ 56k]

I've been a long-time Omnipage user but found version 19, AKA Ultimate, 
an ultimate fail particularly with Word and Excel.
While Abbyy Fine Reader isn't as posh, it's a lot easier to use and 
gives better responses in some areas and it integrates into Word / Excel 
much better than ver 19 of Omnipage.
As an example I get better results scanning tables with FineReader than 
omnipage.

Glen


***


On 16-Feb-15 10:02 AM, Flor Lynch wrote:

Shoshana,

An OCR (Optical Character Recognition) package, would be something like
FineReader (that both Open Book and Kurzweil 1000 (specialized blindness
products) use. Open Book is developed by Freedom Scientific. It works
with JAWS, but is by itself voicing, so you don't need JAWS to run it.
For that reason, among others, it is expensive. (Same is true for
Kurzweil 1000, developed by Cambium Learning Systems.) Two good
'off-the-shelf' packages are: FineReader, and OmniPage. You can get
either one at around $200 or less, if there's a sale. F.R. and O.P. are
workable with JAWS, but the interface isn't always so optimal. There are
other OCR packages but these are the main ones in use. To scan paper,
you do of course need a physical scanner, be it with a printter or as a
standalone unit. The standalone scanners are usually the best. Not all
scanners are created equal, and not all of them will work with the
blindness packages.

I think that covers most things.

-Original Message- From: Shoshana Hathaway
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] trying to read PDF files from a Yahoo groups
filesection

LOL, Flor ...turns out you were right the first time!  They were basically
graphic PDF files, but I emailed the person who uploaded them, and he
got me
copies I'll be able to read.  Since I will need the information for an
upcoming meeting, I am obliged to him (smile).

OK ...an OCR package?  Could you explain a bit about that and make a
suggestion as to one I could get for my PC that is likely to work with JAWS
14?  Thanks!

Shoshana





For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/h

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

[Dialup @ 56k]

Arianna,
Some of those Dell laptops have a Fn key combination to do this.
Which Dell laptop do you have?
Glen

***


On 14-Feb-15 12:42 PM, Arianna Calesso wrote:

Does anyone know of a keystroke to disable or shut down the mousepad on a Dell 
laptop?  I don't even have to touch the thing for it to make the cursor jump 
away from the application I'm working in.  I've tried Device Manager and there 
was no disable button or else JAWS couldn't read it.

Thanks for any help.

Arianna
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

[Dialup @ 56k]

As an after-thought, some laptops allow this function to be turned off 
in the BIOS, but this is not only an inaccessible place for JAWS, but 
not a place for inexperienced users, so you'll need someone who knows 
exactly what they are doing to check for this.

There be Dragons !!
Glen

On 14-Feb-15 1:08 PM, Annette Carr wrote:

On my work Latitude 7440 UltraBook it is Function Key+F5.  The first press
of this combination turns the touch pad off, the 2nd press turns the touch
pad on and the stick off, the 3rd turns them both off, and the 4th press
turns them both on.  The only odd thing is that after I use Function key+F5
to turn off the touch pad, somehow it is randomly turned back on.  I'm
wondering if there is some type of gesture that turns it back on.  I know
that sounds crazy since the touch pad is supposed to be turned off.

HTH,
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Arianna Calesso
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Disabling the mousepad on a Dell laptop

Does anyone know of a keystroke to disable or shut down the mousepad on a
Dell laptop?  I don't even have to touch the thing for it to make the cursor
jump away from the application I'm working in.  I've tried Device Manager
and there was no disable button or else JAWS couldn't read it.

Thanks for any help.

Arianna
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft word 2010 font size

[Dialup @ 56k]

Jorge,
If you mean, is the new font size only temporary using Ctrl + left / 
right square brackets, the answer is no, provided of course you save the 
document.

Glen

***


On 12-Feb-15 10:41 AM, TheHangMan wrote:

Hi,
Is this fix a temporary one???

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dialup @ 56k
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft word 2010 font size

Hello Kevin,
There are a few ways; try this one.
Highlight the font you want to resize;
Press Ctrl + Right Square Bracket to increase the size of the current /
default font by one point.
The Left and Right Square brackets are on the far right of the QWERTY
row, immediately to the right of the P key.
HTH.
Glen

*-**


On 10-Feb-15 12:41 PM, Kevin Lee wrote:

would you know how to change font sizes via shortcut keys


-Original Message- From: Dialup @ 56k
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 4:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft word 2010 document margins

Hello Kevin,
Try Alt + p, SP.
This opens a window which has three tabs, Margins (the one you want),
Paper and Layout.
You can Ctrl + Tab between these three pages; you can use Tab to
navigate within each page.
HTH.
Glen

***

On 10-Feb-15 11:12 AM, Kevin Lee wrote:

how can I change margins of a document,   is there a shortcut key
I read that in word only the menus have changed, but all the shortcut
keys remain the same.  the problem is I really never knew the
shortcuts  like the most common ones.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft word 2010 font size

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello Kevin,
There are a few ways; try this one.
Highlight the font you want to resize;
Press Ctrl + Right Square Bracket to increase the size of the current / 
default font by one point.
The Left and Right Square brackets are on the far right of the QWERTY 
row, immediately to the right of the P key.

HTH.
Glen

*-**


On 10-Feb-15 12:41 PM, Kevin Lee wrote:

would you know how to change font sizes via shortcut keys


-Original Message- From: Dialup @ 56k
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 4:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft word 2010 document margins

Hello Kevin,
Try Alt + p, SP.
This opens a window which has three tabs, Margins (the one you want),
Paper and Layout.
You can Ctrl + Tab between these three pages; you can use Tab to
navigate within each page.
HTH.
Glen

***

On 10-Feb-15 11:12 AM, Kevin Lee wrote:

how can I change margins of a document,   is there a shortcut key
I read that in word only the menus have changed, but all the shortcut
keys remain the same.  the problem is I really never knew the
shortcuts  like the most common ones.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft word 2010 document margins

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello Kevin,
Try Alt + p, SP.
This opens a window which has three tabs, Margins (the one you want), 
Paper and Layout.
You can Ctrl + Tab between these three pages; you can use Tab to 
navigate within each page.

HTH.
Glen

***

On 10-Feb-15 11:12 AM, Kevin Lee wrote:

how can I change margins of a document,   is there a shortcut key
I read that in word only the menus have changed, but all the shortcut keys 
remain the same.  the problem is I really never knew the shortcuts  like the 
most common ones.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Linux systems

[Dialup @ 56k]

There is a very accessible Linux distribution called Vinux which has 
speech out of the box.

Link:  http://vinuxproject.org/
Glen

***

On 07-Feb-15 11:06 PM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Yes there is speech  for linux.  You can search for
- Original Message -
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linux systems


I've never heard or read of anything approaching a screen reader for this
OS.  If that is the case, that must make it unique among mainstream
operating systems.

Ted
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenex systems

Hi Wayne,
Jaws is specific to the Windows operating system.
That is why you will find references to JFW (Jaws for Windows).

HTH,
Rick Justice


- Original Message -
From: wayne smith waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:24 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Lenex systems


Hello-

I found a place in Chicago that rebuilds computers and sells them very
cheaply.  The issue is that they use the Lenex (spelling uncertain)
operating system exclusively.  I am guessing that JAWS doesn't work with
that system but I want to be sure.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.



Thanks in advance,



Wayne

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to find version of program?

[Dialup @ 56k]

You can usually find a reference to 'About bla bla' in the help menu, so 
Alt + H, then arrow down, enter on About, and have a read.
Some of these About windows are a bit inaccessible, but try the JAWS 
cursor, or Convenient OCR.

Glen

***

On 22-Jan-15 11:00 AM, Kliph wrote:

What is the key stroke to see what version of a program you are using.  So I 
want to see what version of IE am using, what key combo do I use?
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Important question

[Dialup @ 56k]

I have 5 accounts set up in Thunderbird, including G Mail.
Glen


***

On 21-Jan-15 9:15 AM, inamuddin wrote:

Dear friends!
Due to some problems, I'm forced to use Mozilla thunder bird as my email
client.
I just want to know that if it is possible for me to configure more than
1 account?
Also is it possible for me to have more than one account to the same
mail just like G mail
Your quick response in this regard would highly be appreciated.



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Important question

[Dialup @ 56k]

Inamuddin,
A quick answer to your question; sorry but I'm a bit short of time ATM.
Go to the File Menu, select New followed by Existing Mail Account...
This will open a window labeled Mail Account Setup.
The rest of the steps are typical of any email account setup.
Glen


***

On 21-Jan-15 10:04 AM, inamuddin wrote:

I really don't know how to do it!
That's why I asked please let me know with detail so I can also
configure them.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1

On 1/21/2015 3:16 AM, Dialup @ 56k wrote:

I have 5 accounts set up in Thunderbird, including G Mail.
Glen


***

On 21-Jan-15 9:15 AM, inamuddin wrote:

Dear friends!
Due to some problems, I'm forced to use Mozilla thunder bird as my email
client.
I just want to know that if it is possible for me to configure more than
1 account?
Also is it possible for me to have more than one account to the same
mail just like G mail
Your quick response in this regard would highly be appreciated.



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] closing current tab in Firefox

[Dialup @ 56k]

CTRL + F4 will also close a tab / the current window in Firefox, and 
quite a few other programs as well, like MS Word / Excel etc.

Glen

***

On 04-Jan-15 11:18 AM, Mario Brusco wrote:

thanks Mike.

- Original Message -
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] closing current tab in Firefox


Hi Mario,

Control + W, closes individual tabs.

Moving through tabs is not a jaws specific function, so you can use the
firefox commands. They are the same as in IE.
Ctrl+tab will move you to the next tab.
Ctrl+shift+tab will move you to the previous tab.
Ctrl+1 through 0 on the number row will move you directly to the
corresponding opened tab.

If you want to turn off tab browsing in Firefox, for those who are
interested.  When Firefox is open, do the following:
1. Press alt+t to get to the tools menu, then the letter O to get to
Options.
2. You will land in a list of categories in which you can use the up and
down arrow keys to navigate. Arrow either up or down until you hear the word
Tabs.
3. Tab once, and you will hear the following. Open windows in a new tab
instead. By default, it is checked.
4. Press the spacebar to uncheck it. If it is already unchecked, leave it
alone. Everything else is optional as you tab through the dialogue. Personal
preference and experimentation is ok.
5. Tab till you hear the ok button, and activate it with the spacebar or
enter key.
You shouldn't need to, but maybe close and re-open Firefox again if you feel
you need to do so for peace of mind.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Mario Brusco
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 3:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] closing current tab in Firefox


when using Internet Explorer, an alt+f4 lets me choose to close all tabs or
the current tab. how can I do this in Firefox? pressing control+f4 just
closes everything.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] finding ie version

[Dialup @ 56k]

Tom,
You can usually find version information in the Help Menu, About.
So in IE, type Alt + H, a

glen

***

On 26-Dec-14 12:16 PM, Tom wrote:

this has been asked several times, but how can I find which version of ie I 
have on my pc? it’s not listed on the add/remove list. jaws 12
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding USB 3.0 ports

[Dialup @ 56k]

The colour of SATA 3 ports depends on the mobo manufacturer.
Gigabyte use White and Grey from memory.
Glen

***

On 20-Nov-14 12:12 PM, Alan Robbins wrote:

Ok, must be mixing this up with SATA 2 versus 3 on the
inside of my tower. I know the SATA 3 port is red

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding USB 3.0 ports


Hi,

Actually, USB 3.0 ports are blue, and the 2.0 are black.
Helpful hint if someone can see some or if you have sighted
help.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding USB 3.0 ports

Yes. I want to say the 3.0 are Red but if this is not
correct hopefully someone on list will set me straight

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Annette Carr
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding USB 3.0 ports

Are there any visual difference between 2.0 and 3.0 USB
ports?  Just in case I ask someone sighted to take a look
for me.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding USB 3.0 ports


Call the computer manufacturer's Technical Support Number
with the computer's model number. They will be able to tell
you which ports are USB
3.0 and which are 2.0. They will be grouped together, not
intermixed. For instance, on a laptop, the 3.0 ports are
usually on the left side of the computer when facing the
screen, and the 2.0 ports are on the right side.

Mike,
blindb...@comcast.net



-Original Message-
From: Mike O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding USB 3.0 ports

Hi

Well, it looks like that sighted assistance is the only way
to identify USB
3.0 ports.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Greg Washington
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 01:11
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding USB 3.0 ports

I've wondered the same.  How can you tell without sighted
assistance?
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Finding USB 3.0 ports

Hi

With Windows 7 and JAWS 16, if you have a computer with both
USB 2.0 and USB
3.0 ports, is there a way to determine which ports are USB
3.0 other than the colors on the case?

Thanks.



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] what's new in latest jaws 15

[Dialup @ 56k]

Daniel,
Is JAWS 16 actually an update from 15, or is it a new download?
Glen

***

On 12-Nov-14 1:41 PM, Daniel MacDonald wrote:

havn't got the JAWS 16 update through check for updates in the help
menu, and it isn't on the Freedomscientific site.
Daniel


On 11/11/14, Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com wrote:

You are correct but they released an update to Jaws 15 today. I haven't
upgraded to 16 as of yet.

Shane

On 11/11/2014 4:55 PM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:

no, FS came out with Jaws 16 recently.
Mr. Gail Crowe, and my guide dog Fred
- Original Message - From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:51 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] what's new in latest jaws 15



It looks like FS came out with an update to Jaws 15, but I can't find
a page on their site that explains what they changed with this latest
release. Anyone know what's new?

Shane

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading XP To Windows7

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello Mike,
As David said, use the Windows Advisor update utility.
If I could also add: IMO, a fresh install of Win 7, rather than an 
update from XP would give you a much better long-term result.

Glen Barwick

***

On 10-Nov-14 2:10 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

We have a Lenovo laptop that is currently running XP Pro but, we would like
to upgrade it to Windows7 Home Premium 32 bit  already have the Win7 32 bit
OS.  I forget how to check the computer to see if it's capable of the OS
update.  Would y'all please fill me in on how this can be done?  Running
Jaws 13  XP Pro.  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/