Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
How do you get it to stay in edit mode all the time? I didn't know it could 
and always manually switch mine to such every session. It's neat to know of 
this thanks in advance.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 8:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

Since I always have it in edit mode it did slip my mind that space bar would
launch a scan in read only mode, thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: cheez

Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

Thanks, Dave, I was going to mention f4 is to scan.

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave...Oregonian" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook


Either f4 or spacebar to launch a scan. However if you have Openbook in 
edit

mode, then only f4 will launch a scan. The default Openbook voice is very
similar to eloquence, so likely that is what you are hearing.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 07:59
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook


I believe David the head honcho of this list said press F4.
I really don't know, just ever since I installed it Elequis has been
speaking.  maybe OpenBook has the Elequis voice !

-Original Message- 
From: cheez

Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 5:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

Eh, Kevin, how does one do that?


Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook



you can set OpenBook to use jaws speech instead of OpenBook speech!  it's
always been like that since OpenBook 8!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It's what worked for me here whether it does or doesn't force the 
announcement of said message it does put the safely remove hardware option 
in the system tray which makes many feel better even if some argue you don't 
need to use it any longer.  I always do just to be safe.
Note there can also be more than one windows explorer entry so someone might 
have to activate or deactivate each to see what it might or might not cause 
to appear or disappear. But since these are toggles that's easy enough to 
do.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 11:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

Hi,
I hate to be a barer of bad news but I have Windows Explorer turned off and
both my computers announce  that I can safely remove hardware. So I am just
guessing that this instructions on how to turn that command on in W10 is not
the answer for how to turn it on. I am running Jaws 018 and W10 the
latest.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 6:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

I admit this is good information that I needed as well. I have been
preoccupied as of late and not paying attention to this stuff as much as I
should.

-Original Message-
From: Pam
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

Thanks for the instructions.  Much appreciated.

Pam Mahuika
Otago
NEW ZEALAND


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, 31 December 2017 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

Hi Pam,

1. Windows key + I, for Settings.
2. Navigate to, Personlization, press enter.
3. Navigate to, Taskbar, press enter.
4. Tab several times to,Select which icons appear on the Taskbar link, press
enter.
5. Tab through these icons, & what you want to check / turn on, is Windows
Explorer to have the Safe to Remove option show in the system tray.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Pam
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove


Hi I don't have the answer to your query  but I would like to know how to
have the safe to remove show up in the system tray.  Am using win10 Creators
and jfw17.

Pam Mahuika
Otago
NEW ZEALAND

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, 31 December 2017 9:10 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Creator & J16 thru J2018.  When I want to remove an
external drive using the Safe to Remove option from the system tray Jaws
does not,

Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be
safely removed from the computer.

when I press enter on the drive I want to disconnect.  How can I get Jaws to
announce the above message in Widows 10?  I've been through Sounds in the
control panel, but couldn't find it there, but did I overlook it?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much, & a happy New Year to all.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I know it confused me at first I wasn't sure if it meant it'd speak updates 
to drop box itself or whether it meant it was checking for updates to the 
scripts themselves. I'm glad it helped and a joyous Christmas and holiday 
season to all as well.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

Hi Robin,

You nailed it!  I've played with different configurations of settings so
many times in the Speak Dropbox configuration window, but the 1 thing I
never turned off / unchecked was the, Automatically Speak Dropbox Status,
option.  I always thought this option was the option that would tell me if
Dropbox was up to date  or not.  Well, turning this option off has seemed to
solve the excessive updating chattering problem!  Thank you very much for
your reply.  Merry Christmas to you, yours, & everyone else!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Robin Frost

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox


Hi,
That's speak drop box checking for updates to itself I believe and if my
understanding is correct in its own dialog that is speak drop box's you can
set that to off.
Its tray icon should get you to its preferences dialog.
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:33 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, J16 thru J2018, & Dropbox.  Jaws keeps reporting that
Dropbox is checking for an update.  How can I stop this update reporting
crap?  I don't know if it's the Speak Dropbox program responsible for this,
or if it's the Dropbox program & it's entries in the Task Scheduler?!  Any
help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much, & a very Merry Christmas to
all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
That's speak drop box checking for updates to itself I believe and if my 
understanding is correct in its own dialog that is speak drop box's you can 
set that to off.

Its tray icon should get you to its preferences dialog.
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:33 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, J16 thru J2018, & Dropbox.  Jaws keeps reporting that
Dropbox is checking for an update.  How can I stop this update reporting
crap?  I don't know if it's the Speak Dropbox program responsible for this,
or if it's the Dropbox program & it's entries in the Task Scheduler?!  Any
help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much, & a very Merry Christmas to
all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm reporting in to say I'm here too and read you loud and clear good buddy. 
sorry couldn’t resist. Here's hoping it lasts (smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

David, was this with all G-mail users, or just some of them.

I'm using G-mail for the Jaws Users list, but I still received your message,
which leads me to assume that I'm still on the list.

Can you confirm?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

We have been hit in the past by email providers bouncing messages from this
domain, but today ranks as the worst in our history. We lost 162 members
today just under 25% of our total subscribers. Almost all of them were using
GMail with a couple of other ISPs thrown in for good measure.

We have never had a problem with GMail before but they sure made up for it
this morning.

If anybody has contact with one of the people who have been removed ask them
to contact GMail if they can and ask this domain be placed on their white
list or whatever they happen to call it.

A few more days like this and there won’t be much of a point in going on.

I remember as a little boy my dad saying you can’t fight city hall. In this
case you can’t fight being black listed.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with another ISP

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not with that ISP but Google gave me this and I thought it might help 
those who are:

Robin
How to get your emails white-listed by SBC Global / AT - Quora
https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-get-your-emails-white-listed-by-SBC-Global-AT-T

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with another ISP

If anybody knows any list members on

sbcglobal.net

please contact them to get this domain put on some sort of safe senders list 
or the like. I just received around 12 bouncing notices from that domain and 
a couple from bell south.


This domain generates a lot of email as you all know and so it does not take 
much to end up on a Spam list for the lack of a better term.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Speaking strictly for myself during the most recent two crippling shutdowns 
this method failed as something in the jfw hang caused me to not be able to 
impact the cursor by using keyboard commands thus even if I got into the 
shutdown menu I could not by any means known to man machine or beast move 
the cursor off of shutdown nor could I invoke the shutdown that supposedly 
had focus. It is a sad sorry state of affairs when it afflicts one and I 
never saw it before the most recent build of jfw 18.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mauricio Molina

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 8:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Tom,

Another way to shut down or restart your computer when JAWS crashes is by
pressing Windows Key+X, followed by the letter U. At this point, pressing
the letter R will restart the computer and pressing the letter U will shut
your computer down. I am not saying it is a better way, just another way,
and it is always good to have a backup.

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Jim:

I will also try this method, the next time I experience the Jaws crash.

Thanks for sharing!

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down.
Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to
shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what
I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps.
Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in
the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when
it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further
even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech
navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you
can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It
is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so
loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it
about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is
really not nice at all.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the
problem and are working on it.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my
Windows 7 laptop.

It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word
document.

Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does
the Windows run command.

Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.

Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.

Thanks,

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Gracious me waiting two to three minutes if it crashes multiple times in a 
day adds up and sure takes a bite out of one's productivity.  I do wish 
someone at VFO could get to the root cause of this please and thank you.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: DGH

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Jaws crashes on me 2 or 3 times a day but I have never needed to do a hard 
shut down.  I can just wait, which may be 2 or 3 minutes and Jaws will start 
up again.  I do notice that Jaws appears in the sys tray more than once 
after it restarts.  Using Jaws 18, Windows 7 and MS Office 2013.  I also 
notice that Jaws shuts down most often whenever I am using an MS Office 
product.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi,
Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I 
said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still 
couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection 
successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 
second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety.
I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you 
seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail 
then?

Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam.
Thanks bunches again.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down.
Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to 
shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what 
I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps.

Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in 
the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when 
it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further 
even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech 
navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you 
can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It 
is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so 
loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it 
about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is 
really not nice at all.

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit 
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the 
problem and are working on it.


Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my 
Windows 7 laptop.


It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word 
document.


Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does 
the Windows run command.


Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is 
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.


Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing 
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to 
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and wind

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I 
said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still 
couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection 
successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 
second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. 
I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you 
seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail 
then?
Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. 
Thanks bunches again.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. 
Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to 
shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what 
I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. 
Smiles.



Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in 
the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when 
it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further 
even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech 
navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you 
can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It 
is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so 
loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it 
about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is 
really not nice at all.

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit 
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the 
problem and are working on it.


Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my 
Windows 7 laptop.


It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word 
document.


Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does 
the Windows run command.


Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is 
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.


Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


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Behalf Of Adam Ferguson

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing 
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to 
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.


Thanks,

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Robin Frost]

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in 
the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when 
it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further 
even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech 
navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you 
can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It 
is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so 
loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it 
about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is 
really not nice at all.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the
problem and are working on it.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my
Windows 7 laptop.

It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word
document.

Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does
the Windows run command.

Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.

Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.

Thanks,

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It can be found here.
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui
and sites it works with
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Merv Keck

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it works
very well. It does not have all the options that the one you mentioned has
but it does a very good job. It even does playlists without a premium
subscription.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I just
looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party programs
with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the install.
That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several months,
all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try again in an
hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Live Mail Irratation

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I have no answer for the problem but can verify experiencing it as well and 
suspect that since support for the program from Microsoft will be ending in 
early 2017 it might only get worse over time.
That's why I've begun using Microsoft Outlook and I'm sure fans of other 
programs will chime in as well with their favorites. While it's true that as 
long as one has an installer for the program and can get it up and running 
it will remain usable this highlights one of the problems that comes with 
continued use of such programs which won't continue to evolve to integrate 
into newer operating systems or to handle newer protocols or security 
concerns.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Teresa Arroyo Llosa

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Live Mail Irratation

I am having that problem too. A temperamental program.

Teresa Arroyoo Llosa

-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 3:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Live Mail Irratation

Hello. Can anyone tell me how to correct a problem with Windows Live Mail?
Periodically, when I arrow up and down the Inbox list, my mail program will
tell me that the server has terminated the connection. And it is for a
variety of reasons that are not true i.e., moments of activity. Thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and itunes support

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I've seen nothing in writing that would indicate such and would find such an 
assertion suspect in the highest degree as it doesn't seem like it's serve 
its maker's purpose to even state such a thing if indeed they even had.

Just my two cents no one asked for.
Speaking of JFW and iTunes I made Apple Accessibility aware of a bug whereby 
when syncing something like music or ringtones if you choose sync selected 
tracks or tones screen readers are unable to read the resulting list view 
from which you can check your selections.  If others are so inclined feel 
free to join in drawing Apple's attention to it in hopes it can be fixed as 
they acknowledge it's their issue not one lain at the feet of screen 
readers.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and itunes support

hey someone emailed me saying jaws is dropping support for itunes in
jaws18 and beyond? is this true or will jaws continue to work with
itunes for years to come?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I don't think it's a Windows 10 issue. I just upgraded iTunes using the 
latest build of both Windows 10 and JFW 17 by navigating to the help menu 
initiating check for updates, closing iTunes and following the prompts win 
the apple software updater with no issues at all.  Everything verbalized as 
it always did and iTunes is now up to date.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

Thanks George,
Maybe a w-10 problem.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

I have JAWS 17 and Windows 7 and updated iTunes yesterday with no problems.



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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

Good afternoon, Jaws users list.
For all the iTunes users.
iTunes 12.3.317 is out today.
Funny thing when I opened my iTunes today, it told me that there was an
update.
I tried like usual using Jaws 17, to go through the iTunes update normally
in which I have no issues doing to update iTunes.
Today however it failed twice.
So, I went to ninite.com and downloaded and ran it from there with no
issues.
This seems to be my week with facing all kinds of issues.LOL.
Yesterday, I added some audio files to my OneDrive group download page.
Microsoft wanted me to use the groove music app to play them from OneDrive.
That was fine.
But they had a stupid ad trying to get me to buy it for all my devices.
They had a get started button, but know way to decline the dumb thing.
I had to recreate my OneDrive shared folders on my desktop giving them a
slightly different name.
I then copied all the tutorials from the old folders to the new ones.
I stopped sharing the old folders and deleted them.
I put the new OneDrive folders in sink with my computer.
I got a share a OneDrive link for both folders individually.
I then had to switch to Jaws 16 to make changes to my Yahoo group settings,
Jaws 17 still will not work doing this task.
Both my OneDrive group download pages are working correctly now.
Seems like Microsoft is trying to integrate all their programs together.
This is a challenge all by itself, we don’t need all the ads to complicate
things even more.
Are any of you who are using Jaws 17 to update iTunes having any problems?
Thanks for listening.
Now time for more coffee.


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reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
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balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not sure perhaps others will chime in who'd know better than do I 
currently.

I'll choose to defer to others as I wouldn't want to misinform.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

Robin, what about reviewing the detected potential threats. is it
possible to arrow thru the items and choose what you want to do with it.
or at least, use the JAWS cursor to review the list, if anything is
found? right now, with 2014's UI, JAWS doesn't find any items listed
even though there 2 items that are reported as being quarantined. and I
don't know how to display or interact with them.

On 2/9/2016 2:28 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
I'm running it and it seems to be quite usable over-all.  sometimes to
get to the different viewing tabs for different sets of controls you use
your arrow keys to get to them. Once a friend told me that I found it
quite easy with which to work in tandem with Jaws.

I hope this helps.
Robin

-Original Message- From: Mario
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

I'm still using VIPRE Internet Security 2014 because of the
inaccessibility of 2015, but now that 2016 is current, I want to know
how accessible it's interface is with JAWS 16? I'm thinking of upgrading
because I am thinking while the interface to 2014 is mostly accessible,
eventually the workings of 2016 won't be compatible with the interface
of 2014. and the 2016 interface most likely offers improved
functions/features and accessibility to VIS's scanning workings, such as
reading the scan results in a separate window  and any detected
threats/items and choosing to quarantine/delete such items, and other
functions/features.

any suggestions/recommendations? the rep I chatted with yesterday told
me that the 2016 UI is not screen reader friendly and that I should
refrain from upgrading, but I don't buy that. what do you guys/gals who
use it or not think?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm running it and it seems to be quite usable over-all.  sometimes to get 
to the different viewing tabs for different sets of controls you use your 
arrow keys to get to them. Once a friend told me that I found it quite easy 
with which to work in tandem with Jaws.


I hope this helps.
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

I'm still using VIPRE Internet Security 2014 because of the
inaccessibility of 2015, but now that 2016 is current, I want to know
how accessible it's interface is with JAWS 16? I'm thinking of upgrading
because I am thinking while the interface to 2014 is mostly accessible,
eventually the workings of 2016 won't be compatible with the interface
of 2014. and the 2016 interface most likely offers improved
functions/features and accessibility to VIS's scanning workings, such as
reading the scan results in a separate window  and any detected
threats/items and choosing to quarantine/delete such items, and other
functions/features.

any suggestions/recommendations? the rep I chatted with yesterday told
me that the 2016 UI is not screen reader friendly and that I should
refrain from upgrading, but I don't buy that. what do you guys/gals who
use it or not think?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Just so you know HP will be able to walk you through it with sighted 
assistance but they won't be able to make bios changes remotely if that was 
what you were thinking.  Hope that helps.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

Thanks to all that have given advice on this matter.
The shift f10 does not work, adding the fn key to it does not work either.
The f keys are working in action mode so I will be either going into the
bios or just calling HP support and have them take care of it because I also
need to know how to shut off the mouse pad.
Thanks again to all and Happy New Year.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


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Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Hi,
I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not
having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as
the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require
sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are
supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4,
for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do
that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great
one.


-Original Message-
From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Curt,

HP has re-mapped the function keys.
Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key.  You
need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to
get it to do the traditional function.  Otherwise, you are in what HP calls
ActionKey mode.

Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal:

This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is
that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the
standard way of having to press the fn key.

Steps to fix:
- Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate
- Press Power button to start
- Immediately press F10 key a few times
- This will start the BIOS
- Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next
page
- Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE
- Save and Exit


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masochist and a very large optimist."

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: Kurt Miller
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop


Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sorry to say that at the present officially no screen readers work in the 
bios area as no sound drivers load when booted into it.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on 
newHPlaptop


Hi,
I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not
having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as
the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require
sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are
supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4,
for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do
that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great
one.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Curt,

HP has re-mapped the function keys.
Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key.  You
need
to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to get it
to
do the traditional function.  Otherwise, you are in what HP calls ActionKey
mode.

Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal:

This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is
that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the
standard way of having to press the fn key.

Steps to fix:
- Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate
- Press Power button to start
- Immediately press F10 key a few times
- This will start the BIOS
- Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next
page
- Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE
- Save and Exit


"A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a
masochist
and a very large optimist."

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Miller

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop


Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
it is accessed often by pressing f8 I believe it is while the pc is first 
starting up allowing someone with vision to choose how they'd like to boot 
the pc I.E. into system bios or safe mode or normal for instance.  I've been 
told by HP reps that it also can be found after pressing control alt and 
delete together.

I hope that helps.
If you have a pair of eyes handy you could try that or call when they're 
available and I'm sure that HP tech support could walk you through it. they 
do have a special accessibility department. Its number is:

877-656-7058
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new 
HPlaptop


Wayne and Robin,
First, thanks for responding. Wayne, I do not have those extra keys on mine.
Robin, do you know where the bios is at so that I can get sighted help to
get this working?
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP
laptop

Hi,
Sadly with HP's the only way to change that setting is to get someone with a
pair of eyes to walk through their instructions for changing that setting in
bios.  Other makes sometimes have the setting available under keyboard
settings in control panel or system but not HP sorry to say.
I wish I had better news but there you have it.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Miller
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop

Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



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Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

[Robin Frost]

Hi sir,
I wasn't advocating for or against it one way or another.  I've run with it 
enabled and disabled at different times.

I don't have a horse in this race (smile).
I was just trying to clarify the point as one of the earlier posters made it 
seem as though one needed to turn off the use a password option in the mix 
with all of this and I didn't think that was correct. pardon my paraphrase 
of its actual control name. I wrote this on the fly and didn't stop long 
enough to get the exact wording.

I hope that makes more sense. Sorry for furthering confusion on the matter.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Robin,
Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off.
This is a benefit of using w-10.
For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut
down.
I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the
computer, I use shut down.
In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less,
my computer comes on with Jaws talking.
I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop.
So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off.
I am a big security minded person.
So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is
welcome.
Good luck, just my opinion.




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balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
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-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi,
Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you
have to turn off requiring a password to disable this.  I didn't think you
needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate
erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that
as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set
to require one but I did disable fast startup myself.
thanks bunches for clarifying.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Al,
One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the
quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40
minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a
sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the
quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same
as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these
reasons. Have a great one, Al.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Kevin,

Why would someone want to disable this feature?

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

forgot to change subject line

press win key+x
from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab
to require a password on startup then press enter tab to
change settings that are currently unavailable press enter
tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow
down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start
this is a check box and it is checked by default press
spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes

-Original Message-
From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &
restore?

Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick
start?

On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote:

with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold

start.  the

computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick

start.  when

quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded

hence the

startup sound does not play.  this is why when you run

jaws in 40

minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the

computer

jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode

again you must

restart your computer.
there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I

will not

include this unless someone asks!

-Original Message- From: Pinky
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@

Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sadly with HP's the only way to change that setting is to get someone with a 
pair of eyes to walk through their instructions for changing that setting in 
bios.  Other makes sometimes have the setting available under keyboard 
settings in control panel or system but not HP sorry to say.

I wish I had better news but there you have it.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop

Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



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Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you 
have to turn off requiring a password to disable this.  I didn't think you 
needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate 
erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that 
as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set 
to require one but I did disable fast startup myself.

thanks bunches for clarifying.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Al,
One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the
quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40
minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a
sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the
quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same
as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these
reasons. Have a great one, Al.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Kevin,

Why would someone want to disable this feature?

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

forgot to change subject line

press win key+x
from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab
to require a password on startup then press enter tab to
change settings that are currently unavailable press enter
tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow
down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start
this is a check box and it is checked by default press
spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes

-Original Message-
From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &
restore?

Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick
start?

On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote:

with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold

start.  the

computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick

start.  when

quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded

hence the

startup sound does not play.  this is why when you run

jaws in 40

minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the

computer

jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode

again you must

restart your computer.
there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I

will not

include this unless someone asks!

-Original Message- From: Pinky
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &

restore?


Hi Neal,
If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows

sound is on

restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound.

Just to let

you know.
Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List

[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]

On Behalf Of Neil Towery
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &

restore?


Hello Gang:

I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for

almost two

months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a

question

similar to:

"Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending

you more, et

cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I

was able to

find the sign in button, and struck the space bar.

However, the

computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was

automatically

re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced

re-start. Heard

similar info. Found sign in button.
Space bar. Computer shut down.

One of the times, I heard something about starting in the

locked mode.


Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the

sound and

humming.
However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up

sound. The

computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and

half, after I

press the start button.

Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe

mode? Since

narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me

to do a

system restore?

Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was

just

wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator.

Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the

season.


Neil



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016, a temporary work around found

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Not sure if it'll change anything regarding JFW working any better but I'm 
sure glad to at least have a means of being able to interact with it while 
we wait.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 2:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog 
inMicrosoftoffice2016, a temporary work around found


Robin,

Good input, and thanks for the update.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Frost" <robin...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in
Microsoftoffice2016, a temporary work around found


Hi,
Perhaps it’s bad internet form to reply to one’s own post but I thought I
would as I’ve just discovered much to my great delight that while JFW 17
doesn’t read the to and from fields in the dialog for printing envelopes in
Microsoft Office 2016 Microsoft Narrator does perform flawlessly. So anyone
looking for a work-around in the meantime might be as happy as I am to
discover that Narrator is a help in this situation.
Here’s hoping that perhaps one day sooner rather than later JFW can be made
to work better in this dialog once again as it did in jfw and office
versions past.
I hope that helps someone.
Robin


From: Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016, a temporary work around found

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Perhaps it’s bad internet form to reply to one’s own post but I thought I would 
as I’ve just discovered much to my great delight that while JFW 17 doesn’t read 
the to and from fields in the dialog for printing envelopes in Microsoft Office 
2016 Microsoft Narrator does perform flawlessly. So anyone looking for a 
work-around in the meantime might be as happy as I am to discover that Narrator 
is a help in this situation.
Here’s hoping that perhaps one day sooner rather than later JFW can be made to 
work better in this dialog once again as it did in jfw and office versions 
past. 
I hope that helps someone.
Robin


From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016 and 
I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t 
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this 
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in 
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Looks like i found a bug in JAWS.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not sure I understand your message based on its current syntax.
However by me with number translation set to some and dollars checked it 
when seeing the value as you presented it is reading it at ten dollars and 
twenty five cents as it ought.

I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:16 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Looks like i found a bug in JAWS.

Hi to all.
I’musing the latest copy of jaws with win 10.
I’m playing a roleplaying game that envolves money.
I have dollars checked.
But even when I have for example.
$10.25.
The point two five.
Please let me know if he reads correctly for the rest of you as tne dollars 
and twenty five cents.

How can we fix thisanoying problem?
Thanks.above example read for the ten
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Begging your pardon I do not understand what you're asserting.  I don't use 
outlook as my email program. That which I was speaking about is happening 
inside of Microsoft Word when one is readying to print an addressed 
envelope. I hope that clarifies.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFWreading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


Hi,
I am using office 2013, J16 and I do not have that problem.I been trying to 
follow this tread.

Mines reads everything, Too field from, and reply.

I believe your problem is in your alt menu using outlook,
Give MSA a buzz,

Have a good day,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


That's a shame as it used to work flawlessly in version 2010 of office (sad
face).
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft
office2016

I had noticed this issue in 2013 and when I was taking an FS webinar on Word
Dan Clark noted it to the class that JAWS did not read in the Adressee or
Return Address boxes and blamed it on Microsoft.
I use that function a good bit and it for sure is passed onto 2016.
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

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12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Hi,
So are you saying that this is an issue with Microsoft's design not screen
reader functionality then?
As System Access performs flawlessly in this dialog currently. I'm just
curious then if it is a Microsoft short coming then why it is working better
in this instance than Jaws is.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Robyn,
I am using Win 7 Pro, with JAWS 17, and Office 2016.
I have that issue and also had the same in 2013.
It is just the way Bill & his boys made those fields.
The only way to correct is highlight & delete it all & retype or just start
again with the typo corrected FROWN
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft
office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
So are you saying that this is an issue with Microsoft's design not screen 
reader functionality then?
As System Access performs flawlessly in this dialog currently. I'm just 
curious then if it is a Microsoft short coming then why it is working better 
in this instance than Jaws is.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


Robyn,
I am using Win 7 Pro, with JAWS 17, and Office 2016.
I have that issue and also had the same in 2013.
It is just the way Bill & his boys made those fields.
The only way to correct is highlight & delete it all & retype or just start 
again with the typo corrected FROWN

George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”


George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft 
office2016


Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016 
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t 
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this 
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in 
this dialog area?

thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

That's a shame as it used to work flawlessly in version 2010 of office (sad 
face).

Robin

-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


I had noticed this issue in 2013 and when I was taking an FS webinar on Word 
Dan Clark noted it to the class that JAWS did not read in the Adressee or 
Return Address boxes and blamed it on Microsoft.

I use that function a good bit and it for sure is passed onto 2016.
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”


George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


Hi,
So are you saying that this is an issue with Microsoft's design not screen
reader functionality then?
As System Access performs flawlessly in this dialog currently. I'm just
curious then if it is a Microsoft short coming then why it is working better
in this instance than Jaws is.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Robyn,
I am using Win 7 Pro, with JAWS 17, and Office 2016.
I have that issue and also had the same in 2013.
It is just the way Bill & his boys made those fields.
The only way to correct is highlight & delete it all & retype or just start
again with the typo corrected FROWN
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft
office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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[JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016 and 
I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t 
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this 
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in 
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] no attachment message in WLM

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I haven't found a setting that governs this and can report the same in most 
current version of windows live mail under windows 10 using JFW 17. Do join 
in the reporting fun and let Freedom Scientific perhaps it'll garner the 
poor mail client some needed attention (smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 10:54 AM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] no attachment message in WLM

Running Jaws V17.0.1214, Win 10 and WLM 12. If message has attachment jaws 
does not say “attachment.  Also have Jaws 17 on Win 7 pc and older version 
of WLM, 2007 I think. Attachment is identified there. Is there a setting 
that controls this?  Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I agree it's working for me too here. And I'm not sure I understand the 
meaning of the dictionary doesn't work. I've instructed JFW to pronounce a 
word correctly when it didn't know how in the default dictionary and had no 
problem saving and maintaining the results. If this refers to something else 
I apologize in advance.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 8:53 AM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Phonetic spelling works correctly for me. Running Win 10 and latest Jaws.
Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:13 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

   Hi to all.
Has anyone else noticed the following with j 17 with win10?
1. the dictionary will not work.
2. When you tap your five key on the calculator keypad to do fanatic
spelling, it works in the following way.
You tap your five key on the first letter and it will spell fanatically for
you.
but right arrow to  the next letter.
That next letter is not fanatically spelled.
You have to tap your five key once again.
Any one know if we can fix these problems?
Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Perhaps a clean uninstall and reinstall or at the very least a run of the 
installer file to repair might do the trick. Just a thought short of that 
perhaps a call to FS for help.
I wish you luck finding a solution it certainly sounds as though something 
is amiss there.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Hi back you Robin.
Everytime I bring up the dictionary I receive the following error message:
jdictionMFC application has stopped working a problem caused the program to
stopped working correctly.
Windows will close and notify you if a solution is avilible.
So, that is what I  am getting when I try to use thedictionary.
I did solve my fanatic spellingproblem though.
Any thoughts on why the dicitonary will not work?
Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Hi,
I agree it's working for me too here. And I'm not sure I understand the
meaning of the dictionary doesn't work. I've instructed JFW to pronounce a
word correctly when it didn't know how in the default dictionary and had no
problem saving and maintaining the results. If this refers to something else
I apologize in advance.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 8:53 AM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Phonetic spelling works correctly for me. Running Win 10 and latest Jaws.
Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:13 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

   Hi to all.
Has anyone else noticed the following with j 17 with win10?
1. the dictionary will not work.
2. When you tap your five key on the calculator keypad to do fanatic
spelling, it works in the following way.
You tap your five key on the first letter and it will spell fanatically for
you.
but right arrow to  the next letter.
That next letter is not fanatically spelled.
You have to tap your five key once again.
Any one know if we can fix these problems?
Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3 converter

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
when last I looked which was last week it was right on the same page as the 
regular download just below it with the classic designation.
while the current non-classic version is more accessible than the one that 
preceded it you still can't access options which limits a lot of 
functionality so for now the classic version is still the best bet in my 
view. Note: once installed the classic version will sadly keep alerting you 
at each launch that there's an update but that doesn't pertain to itself.  I 
contacted them to see if they could make it so it only alerts users to 
updates for the classic version but have heard nothing back as of yet.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 12:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3 converter

does anyone know the link to download the version that is screen reader 
compatible
I downloaded before and it wasn’t compatible   I know dvdvideosoft offers a 
classic version but where can I download it?

Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I've noticed that when encountering some of these buttons or links sometimes 
turning off virtual cursor temporarily in jfw enables them to be executed.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Philip Hall

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

Hi.
I have the same problem with my banking website.
I sometimes have to switch browsers, and sometimes I have to change screen
readers in the middle of what I am doing to click a button, or link.
I think the website is just poorly coded not taking accessibility into
account.

There is a lawyer in California that is an expert in getting many of these
sites to make their websites accessible.
She made Bank of America change their website to make it more accessible,
and she just made humana make their prescription labels accessible. She also
make CVS do the same thing.

Phil



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
With all due respect I can't speak authoritatively as I don't work for them 
but I can say that when I renewed just a few weeks ago I was specifically 
told that my SMA's were for versions 18 and 19 specifically. So I'd be 
careful not to assume that they can be used for any future version 
regardless of number. For if that were so people wouldn't have to pay for 
multiple upgrades in order to catch up if they were a few versions behind.

Just a thought.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

I  have seen nothing saying that one has to upgrade everytime that a new
version of Jaws is released. If you have
2 SMA's remaining, and you choose not to upgrade to 18, then you will still
have 2 SMA's when versions 19 and 20 are released. I just used my last SMA
to upgrade to 17, and I did renew my SMA's, but the FS salesperson did not
state that they were for Jaws 18 and 19, nor did the sales receipt that I
received via mail a few days later

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 6:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

I will be very interested in what FS tells you. So, please put something in
your subject line about SMA and upgrades. I do not want to miss the answer.
Thanks. Neil


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

um, when I bought jaws 11 I FS gave me 3 SMAs and I did not use them until
15 came out.  I used one to authorize 15 then when 16 came out I used
another!  so I don't understand what your saying.  I'll contact FS to
confirm what you say!

-Original Message-
From: Londa Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

If you have one upgrade remaining, that's the sma. You have to use it for
17. If you try and use it for 18, you won't be authorized. It will know that
you've tried to skip, and it won't let you. I would encourage you to call FS
to verify what I'm saying to you. I just hate to see you waste a perfectly
good upgrade thinking that you can use it later when you can't.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

well when I go to my help menu in jaws it still says 1 remote upgrade
remaining.  I'm not sure if this is the SMA everyone speaks of, I don't even
know what a SMA is all I know is I can upgrade one more time!

-Original Message-
From: Londa Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

Hi Kevin,
Unfortunately,, as far as I know you can't save SMA's. If you don't install
17, you still can't get 18 if you only have one SMA left. You've simply
wasted your SMA by not installing 17. Unless FS has changed something
recently that is.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

the first major windows 10  update fixed the crashing that was happening
with jaws don’t ask how, but I am not experiencing jaws crashes anymore.
this is good because I won’t need to use a SMA to upgrade jaws, 16 latest is
good enough!
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws activating wrong link why?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I can confirm this behavior.  It's happened a few times to me recently on 
Amazon.com.  I was on the your orders link. It verbalized your orders but 
somehow after entering on what verbalized as your orders I ended up on a 
page for sellers on amazon.  thank goodness for alt left arrow.  I could 
reproduce this at will so I think I can safely say it wasn't user error in 
this case.
As for its cause or solution such still escapes me but I can indeed confirm 
the behavior you report.
I know it isn't a solution but sometimes knowing that an anomaly isn't 
unique to you and your set up can bring a bit of solace.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:31 AM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws activating wrong link why?

I'm not sure if it's after the windows 10 update, or after I made changes in
the quick setting which I don't remember what the changes were; however,
here is the skinny.



Let's say there are two links I am passing by, about and contact us.  I
click contact us and the about page opens.

The only way I can get the right link to launch is listing the links, tab to
move to link, then activate link.  That is to much just to read a page lol,
thoughts?

Windows 10, jaws 16 and IE 11.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I don't think it's going away just not being updated readily any more.  It's 
still available for download and install so at least for now it in its 
current form is available and will work.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

What? Do you mean that I am doing all of this work to learn WLM and all
ready it is going away? hmmm,,,I am always one step behind.  Thanks for your
help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

wlm is at version 16 something which is 2012 don't expect it to be upgraded
because ms has a new email client which is not accessible with jaws.
all the info may be there in your messages but it may be in 2 line message
view.
here's how to change it so jaws can read it to change the view of your
message display in windows live mail press alt to bring up the ribbon menu
navigate to the view ribbon with the right arrow key when on the view ribbon
press the down arrow select a new view for your messages press enter you
will be presented with four message views select the third rule (show all
messages) tab to apply press spacebar when prompted select all folders press
enter choose the view ribbon again press down navigate by pressing the
leftor right  arrow key to the message drop down press enter press the down
arrow til you get to one line message view make sure one line message view
is checked if not press spacebar to check it the email messages should now
be displayed sender, subject, date ...
-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 1:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Sorry, I need to change the subject. When looking at my in box in WLM jaws
speaks only the subject of the emails in the in box. I would like for jaws
to tell me who the email is from, the subject, and the date the email was
sent.

My wife tells me that all that information is showing on the monitor. But
Jaws does not speak it. How do I get jaws to speak all of that information
when I am in the inbox?

One more thing, what is the latest revision of windows live mail? Thank you,





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi,

This onlky work with win 8 and higher.  If it is win 7 you would have to
press win u then ault n to get speech.

Matthew

On 11/7/2015 9:58 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Can't you skip the ease of access and just use the windows key enter
to fire up the windows narrator.
I know you said Alt n to fire up narraotr.
But windows key enter also will fire up narrator.
If we can fire up narrator, why go to the ease of access and then go
to narrator?
Can't we elimate the middle man and use just the narrator with a new
computer for the first time?
I hopefully will have a new computer myself here around thanks giving
and or Christmas.
So thanks.



Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
cane paws down any day of the week."
-Original Message- From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi Wayne,
When you boot the computer, wait a minute or two, to allow the system
too load everything, then press the Windows key + the Letter U,  to
open the "Ease of Access Center".
Next, press Alt + the letter N, to start Narrator.
Be patient, Narrator may take a few seconds to start talking.
From this point, you should be able to navigate the pre-setup screens
using the tab key and arrow keys.
Once you have completed this process, Windows should load the desktop,
at which time you can install Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - From: "wayne smith"

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer


My current laptop is malfunctioning and I purchased a new HP laptop.
I chose one that uses Windows 7 because I have MS Office 2007 and
Outlook 2007 and they serve my needs.  I am charging the computer now.
When I turn it on for the first time it will have no speech capability
so I don't know if it will show instructions or updates on the screen.
I will load my JAWS
15 SMA
CD and run it.  Are there any traps or problems anybody has
experienced in starting their laptop for the first time?  Would it be
a good idea to have sighted help for that 

Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not LeDon but as for the problem of jfw not reporting conversations as 
expanded or collapsed in live mail as efficiently as NVDA does I can say 
that maximizing the window sadly had no impact on that one.
thanks for your instructions to LeDon's issue as they were well composed 
concise and informative and were exactly what I couldn't remember so thanks 
for the save for us all (smiles).


Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 8:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Hi Ledon,

Another thing to check is to make sure the screen is maximized
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

- Original Message - 
From: Robin Frost

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer


Hi,
I wish I could remember what I did to fix that as I encountered that just
recently myself.  I did turn off the reading pane but I'm not sure if that
setting was what addressed it.
You could also check under view to see which columns are displaying.
On a related note I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered or could
reproduce an issue where jfw refused to announce the state of conversation
threads in windows live mail. I.E. whether they're expanded or collapsed.
I've seen this both in jfw 16 and 17 under windows 7 and 10 and no matter
what I do I can't get it to report this consistently.
NVDA however reports it flawlessly no labeling of graphics necessary. It
used to be that if you set graphics to all in live mail and labeled the
pertinent graphic it'd then verbalize but now even that isn't seeming to
work by me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks LeDon for letting
me dovetail on your question.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Sorry, I need to change the subject. When looking at my in box in WLM jaws
speaks only the subject of the emails in the in box. I would like for jaws
to tell me who the email is from, the subject, and the date the email was
sent.

My wife tells me that all that information is showing on the monitor. But
Jaws does not speak it. How do I get jaws to speak all of that information
when I am in the inbox?

One more thing, what is the latest revision of windows live mail? Thank you,





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi,

This onlky work with win 8 and higher.  If it is win 7 you would have to
press win u then ault n to get speech.

Matthew

On 11/7/2015 9:58 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Can't you skip the ease of access and just use the windows key enter
to fire up the windows narrator.
I know you said Alt n to fire up narraotr.
But windows key enter also will fire up narrator.
If we can fire up narrator, why go to the ease of access and then go
to narrator?
Can't we elimate the middle man and use just the narrator with a new
computer for the first time?
I hopefully will have a new computer myself here around thanks giving
and or Christmas.
So thanks.



Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
cane paws down any day of the week."
-Original Message- From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi Wayne,
When you boot the computer, wait a minute or two, to allow the system
too load everything, then press the Windows key + the Letter U,  to
open the "Ease of Access Center".
Next, press Alt + the letter N, to start Narrator.
Be patient, Narrator may take a few seconds to start talking.
From this point, you should be able to navigate the pre-setup screens
using the tab key and arrow keys.
Once you have completed this process, Windows should load the desktop,
at which time you can install Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - From: "wayne smith"
<waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer


My current laptop is malfunctioning and I purchased a new HP laptop.
I chose one that uses Windows 7 because I have MS Office 2007 and
Outlook 2007 and they serve my needs.  I am charging the computer now.
When I turn it on for the first time it will have no speech capability
so I don't know if it will show instructions or updates on the screen.
I will load my JAWS
15 SMA
CD and run it.  Are there any traps or probl

Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I wish I could remember what I did to fix that as I encountered that just 
recently myself.  I did turn off the reading pane but I'm not sure if that 
setting was what addressed it.

You could also check under view to see which columns are displaying.
On a related note I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered or could 
reproduce an issue where jfw refused to announce the state of conversation 
threads in windows live mail. I.E. whether they're expanded or collapsed. 
I've seen this both in jfw 16 and 17 under windows 7 and 10 and no matter 
what I do I can't get it to report this consistently.
NVDA however reports it flawlessly no labeling of graphics necessary. It 
used to be that if you set graphics to all in live mail and labeled the 
pertinent graphic it'd then verbalize but now even that isn't seeming to 
work by me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks LeDon for letting 
me dovetail on your question.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Sorry, I need to change the subject. When looking at my in box in WLM jaws
speaks only the subject of the emails in the in box. I would like for jaws
to tell me who the email is from, the subject, and the date the email was
sent.

My wife tells me that all that information is showing on the monitor. But
Jaws does not speak it. How do I get jaws to speak all of that information
when I am in the inbox?

One more thing, what is the latest revision of windows live mail? Thank you,





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi,

This onlky work with win 8 and higher.  If it is win 7 you would have to
press win u then ault n to get speech.

Matthew

On 11/7/2015 9:58 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Can't you skip the ease of access and just use the windows key enter
to fire up the windows narrator.
I know you said Alt n to fire up narraotr.
But windows key enter also will fire up narrator.
If we can fire up narrator, why go to the ease of access and then go
to narrator?
Can't we elimate the middle man and use just the narrator with a new
computer for the first time?
I hopefully will have a new computer myself here around thanks giving
and or Christmas.
So thanks.



Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
cane paws down any day of the week."
-Original Message- From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi Wayne,
When you boot the computer, wait a minute or two, to allow the system
too load everything, then press the Windows key + the Letter U,  to
open the "Ease of Access Center".
Next, press Alt + the letter N, to start Narrator.
Be patient, Narrator may take a few seconds to start talking.
From this point, you should be able to navigate the pre-setup screens
using the tab key and arrow keys.
Once you have completed this process, Windows should load the desktop,
at which time you can install Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - From: "wayne smith"

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer


My current laptop is malfunctioning and I purchased a new HP laptop.
I chose one that uses Windows 7 because I have MS Office 2007 and
Outlook 2007 and they serve my needs.  I am charging the computer now.
When I turn it on for the first time it will have no speech capability
so I don't know if it will show instructions or updates on the screen.
I will load my JAWS
15 SMA
CD and run it.  Are there any traps or problems anybody has
experienced in starting their laptop for the first time?  Would it be
a good idea to have sighted help for that initial start?

Any wisdom will be appreciated.



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
You are correct version 4.0 of this program has become inaccessible. However 
the older classic version can still be used with screen reader software. 
The maker of this program has been alerted to the problem and claim that 
forth coming program updates will remedy this break in accessibility.

the classic version can be located at:
quoting DVD VideoSoft from twitter:

"You may use the classic version for now"
 http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-YouTube-to-MP3-Converter.htm 
It's the second button.


I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

I tried it when it opens jaws announces nothing, there is just a white 
window on my desktop.

switching to jaws cursor I get the same thing
I can’t tab or anything
I’m running windows 10 and jaws 16 latest
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Once the program's own installer launches after having started the process 
with revo close the window from the program itself leaving revo open and it 
should allow you to proceed.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

how do I uninstall the one I installed, I tried using revo and it just
stalled

-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 8:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

Hi,
You are correct version 4.0 of this program has become inaccessible. However
the older classic version can still be used with screen reader software.
The maker of this program has been alerted to the problem and claim that
forth coming program updates will remedy this break in accessibility.
the classic version can be located at:
quoting DVD VideoSoft from twitter:

"You may use the classic version for now"
 http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-YouTube-to-MP3-Converter.htm
It's the second button.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

I tried it when it opens jaws announces nothing, there is just a white
window on my desktop.
switching to jaws cursor I get the same thing
I can’t tab or anything
I’m running windows 10 and jaws 16 latest
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Like I said the url found on the forum page which was the last referenced 
link in my email is still working for me.
Don't know what to tell you but that google did lead me to it somehow and 
for that I'm glad. I give up now (smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Michael B.

Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

Hi Robin,

I checked the URL to make sure it didn't wrap, but the shortened URL didn't
work either  I got this message:

HTTP Error - Page cannot be displayed

HTTP - 404 Page Not Found

Sorry, the page cannot be displayed.

The destination page for the TinyURL you visited appears to have been
removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.  The
destination
URL that seemed to produce a 404 Page Not Found error is:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/...d1c4bf5812.msu

Suggested results:

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About this Page
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Robin Frost

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi,
Hmm it still works for me here immediately offering me the download.
Is it possible that a email client is putting the url into two lines?
Here it is shortened perhaps this will work better.
http://tinyurl.com/oum36gs
And its original form

http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/...d1c4bf5812.msu

I found its original mention in this forum.
Try clicking on it from this page.
http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/371499-way-download-kb3035583-2.html
I hope that helps.
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: Michael B.

Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

Hi Robin,

This is the message I get when clicking on the URL you posted or copying /
pasting the URL into the Run dialogue:

404 - File or directory not found.

Server Error
404 - File or directory not found.
The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.


Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Robin Frost

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi,
I'm not Trish but perhaps this will help.  This is for windows 7 64 bit
edition not sure it matters but in the interest of full disclosure I mention
it.
I hope this helps.
robin (who had the same need to find this too, oy)


Microsoft KB3035583  for 64bit windows 7
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/...d1c4bf5812.msu 9:37:54 PM from
Chicken Nugget

-Original Message- 
From: Michael B.

Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

Hi Rick,

Did that first thing,  it's not there.  After I uninstalled that update
from Installed Updates it never came down again.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi Mike,
Go to restore hidden updates and see if it is there.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Michael B. mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi Trish,

Where in the heck were you able to get this downloaded from?  I have spent
the better part of an hour searching Microsoft's website, clicking on
several supposed down load links for this update,  coming up with nothing!
Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Trish

To: Jaws-users-list
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:24 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10



FYI
I had

Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Hmm it still works for me here immediately offering me the download.
Is it possible that a email client is putting the url into two lines?
Here it is shortened perhaps this will work better.
http://tinyurl.com/oum36gs
And its original form

http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/...d1c4bf5812.msu

I found its original mention in this forum.
Try clicking on it from this page.
http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/371499-way-download-kb3035583-2.html
I hope that helps.
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: Michael B.

Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

Hi Robin,

This is the message I get when clicking on the URL you posted or copying /
pasting the URL into the Run dialogue:

404 - File or directory not found.

Server Error
404 - File or directory not found.
The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.


Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Robin Frost

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi,
I'm not Trish but perhaps this will help.  This is for windows 7 64 bit
edition not sure it matters but in the interest of full disclosure I mention
it.
I hope this helps.
robin (who had the same need to find this too, oy)


Microsoft KB3035583  for 64bit windows 7
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/...d1c4bf5812.msu 9:37:54 PM from
Chicken Nugget

-Original Message- 
From: Michael B.

Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

Hi Rick,

Did that first thing,  it's not there.  After I uninstalled that update
from Installed Updates it never came down again.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi Mike,
Go to restore hidden updates and see if it is there.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Michael B. mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi Trish,

Where in the heck were you able to get this downloaded from?  I have spent
the better part of an hour searching Microsoft's website, clicking on
several supposed down load links for this update,  coming up with nothing!
Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Trish

To: Jaws-users-list
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:24 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10



FYI
I had removed this, and had to download it, and run it again, it's necessary
for the update.

I went to Microsoft site to find this, it wasn't popping up in window's
update, because I had removed it.
I clicked on downloads, typed the info in the search box, it popped up for
my win 7 64bit system.

KB3035583


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Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not Trish but perhaps this will help.  This is for windows 7 64 bit 
edition not sure it matters but in the interest of full disclosure I mention 
it.

I hope this helps.
robin (who had the same need to find this too, oy)


Microsoft KB3035583  for 64bit windows 7
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/...d1c4bf5812.msu 9:37:54 PM from 
Chicken Nugget


-Original Message- 
From: Michael B.

Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10

Hi Rick,

Did that first thing,  it's not there.  After I uninstalled that update
from Installed Updates it never came down again.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi Mike,
Go to restore hidden updates and see if it is there.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Michael B. mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10


Hi Trish,

Where in the heck were you able to get this downloaded from?  I have spent
the better part of an hour searching Microsoft's website, clicking on
several supposed down load links for this update,  coming up with nothing!
Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Trish

To: Jaws-users-list
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:24 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] KB3035583 crucial for Update to Window's 10



FYI
I had removed this, and had to download it, and run it again, it's necessary
for the update.

I went to Microsoft site to find this, it wasn't popping up in window's
update, because I had removed it.
I clicked on downloads, typed the info in the search box, it popped up for
my win 7 64bit system.

KB3035583


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Fw: the get windows 10 appears on my system tray

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It is my understanding that you'll be notified of its availability but it 
won't automatically install. If someone reserves a copy they have a year to 
install it. As such it would stand to reason that it wouldn't automatically 
install on the first day as then there'd be no reason for the one year 
window. I think confusion stems from the fact that many outlets have 
reported that updates for windows 10 I.E. once windows 10 is installed will 
become automatic for home users but the update to windows 10 itself is not 
automatically installed.  I hope this serves to clarify rather than muddy 
the waters.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Trish

Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 11:10 AM
To: Jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fw: the get windows 10 appears on my system tray

Hello David,

I found this update had already been installed on both my laptop and Dell.
I followed pretty much your instructions here, and have removed it.
First, thanks for these steps.
Second, if someone has this update still on their systems and not removing 
it, will window's 10 automatically be installed?



Thanks for any help regarding this matter!

Trish

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the get windows 10 appears on my system tray


Removing KB3035583

To remove KB3035583, first open Windows Update and click Installed Updates
in the bottom-left corner.
To quickly find KB3035583, you can sort by name. Once you've located it,
right-click and choose Uninstall.
When you select to uninstall this update, you'll be asked to confirm and
then you will need to restart your computer.
Once your computer restarts, the GWX.exe and its associated GWXUX.exe
applications will be removed and the system tray icon and resulting dialog
will go away permanently.

If the Icon Returns
Some readers have noted that KB3035583 returns if you don't hide it. If you
have Windows updates set to download and install automatically, this means
that if you uninstall this update, it will be reinstalled automatically a
few days later.
To hide the KB3035583 update and prevent it from being reinstalled,
right-click on it in the Windows Update application and select Hide
update.
After, the update's selection box will be grayed out and cannot be checked.

From hereon, the update will be hidden whenever you reopen Windows Update

unless you decide to restore it.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of petras
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] the get windows 10 appears on my system tray

Hf, I'm now getting the get windows 10 on my system tray.  How do I get rid
of that?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Annual Update Fee -- Is it a Reality or Not?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Googling yielded many results that informed me that if one for instance 
reserves a free upgrade to windows 10 all updates remain free for the life 
of the device it's on and the same holds true for all updates were one to 
purchase windows 10 when it'd be for sale. I.E. once one owns a copy all 
updates would be for free. So it is my understanding that there would be no 
subscription model put in place for windows 10. Either people get the 
upgrade for free or they'd choose to purchase it outright after the offer 
for the free version expires after a year but there is no cost for updates. 
One article stating this can be found here:

http://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-windows-10-will-not-be-sold-as-a-subscription/
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Annual Update Fee -- Is it a Reality or 
Not?


Since the original thread got slammed by the moderators, I'll post this
again with a new subject.

Is Windows 10 going to be a truly free product, or will there be an annual
fee for upgrades? Consider the model used by most software manufacturers,
like FS where getting updates requires payment.

What's the current wisdom on this question?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Will IE go away?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I believe the release name is now reported to be edge. And to keep it on 
topic I suspect JFW will be made to work with it before long.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Will IE go away?

Yes! The name Spartan has been used, but that will probably not be the
release name.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 8:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] Will IE go away?

When windows ten is released, will IE be replaced with another new
internet explorer??

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Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft support email

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Unfortunately their help desk is not very accessible which is the only way 
to open a ticket with them.
I've found that the free version of Revo Uninstaller can successfully 
uninstall this program without sighted assistance. I hope this helps.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 1:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft support email

I get the same thing!

-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft support email

what about from control panel and program?

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 11:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft support email

anyone know of dvdvideosoft support email, I’m trying to uninstall free
youtube download from my computer and their uninstall is not accessable via
jaws, it the mouse must be used to check the program of dvdvideosoft you
wish to uninstall then press the uninstall button.  I know this because I
had sighted help before, but I installed it again now I want to  uninstall
again by myself.  because it previously wasn’t working correctly
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sadly Comcast is famous for bouncing email lists such as this one. It's why 
I moved all of my subscriptions to a gmail account years ago.  Sometimes 
gmail too flags them as spam and traps them in their spam folder easily 
accessed and rectified through their web interface but I haven't had as many 
incidents of bouncing therein.  Now watch me jinx myself having said that 
(smile). I recognize this is not a viable solution for all I just wanted to 
mention that this is not a new occurrence at least with Comcast.  Good luck 
to all who are impacted.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Moderator

Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members

The majority of the domains affected seem to be :
comcast
sbcglobal
yahoo
Frontier
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- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members


I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription
have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still
receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a
number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending
reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that
this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this
list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would.
Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the
mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do
just that.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] comcast support email

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Interestingly when I contacted the accessibility department at comcast it 
was through the email address:

accessibil...@comcast.com
This differs from that which is cited below so not sure what accounts for 
the difference. Why not try both for good measure (smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Boyd

Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] comcast support email


Here is the information to contact Comcast Accessibility Support:


Here is the phone number for our department and our hours are 8am-9pm
central time. 365 days a year.

855-270-0379

And, here is our email address:

ec...@comcast.com


hth,
Mike
blindb...@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] comcast support email

anyone know the direct email address for comcast?  you usually can get it
after comcast replies to you after filling out their support email form.  I
have not done so because the form is inaccessible in that they have a capcha
where you must enter the numbers and letters you see to submit your email
request.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 reading web pages HTML code

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
while this is an intriguing work around what concerns me is what if it 
results in missing information one actually wanted because the inline frames 
are hidden.
Still I'm glad to hear they're aware of it as when it occurs it surely makes 
one's productivity take a hit.

I can confirm the behavior as well.
I too reported it to FS but got no response.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 reading web pages HTML code

Hi Roger  List Members,

I ran into this  pressing the F12 key did not help so, I opened Jaws Quick
Settings played around with various settings.  This is what worked for me
on
the website I was on at the time.
I navigated to: Heading  Frame Options
Frames show start  end, This I unchecked.

In-line Frames Show, This I turned off.

This worked for me that time  haven't had another chance to check  see if
it would work on a different website as of yet.  Give it a try  report back
with your results.  I don't have my Win7 computer available to me at the
moment so I can't check it myself.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Roger Levine

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 reading web pages HTML code


Hello,
I have been  noticing the same behavior with the New York Times.
Roger

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 reading web pages HTML code

Hey, what's up with this. While viewing some web pages all of a sudden jaws
will start reading the HTML code instead of the text on the page. Has anyone
experienced this? This doesn't happen all of the time.. It just jumps up
sometimes and starts reading the code when I follow a link. I have tried
reloading a page that it is reading the code to see if it will solve the
problem. No dice. Any ideas?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Issue with JFW 16 and Windows live mail

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
thank you anyway it has seemed to rectify itself as mysteriously as it 
afflicted.

Robin

-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Issue with JFW 16 and Windows live mail

Hello. I am using jaws 16 and windows 7 and windows live mail. I opened my 
windows live mail program and created a message. I misspelled a word so I 
could use spell check. I read the message before starting spell check. I 
started spell check and corrected the misspelled word. Then I tried to read 
the message that I had composed. I had no problem. So, I don't think that 
the problem is with jaws or windows live mail. But, I can give you no help 
on how to solve the problem. Good luck, LeDon.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:07 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Issue with JFW 16 and Windows live mail

Hi,
I was just curious if anyone can verify the following issue along with me. 
If I compose an email in the current version of windows live mail running 
JFW 16 and I invoke spell checker after it’s finished I can no longer reread 
the text I’ve composed. As of now I’ve found no work-around for this.

if anyone else is experiencing this issue I’d love to know of it.
thanks in advance.
Robin
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[JAWS-Users] Issue with JFW 16 and Windows live mail

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I was just curious if anyone can verify the following issue along with me.  If 
I compose an email in the current version of windows live mail running JFW 16 
and I invoke spell checker after it’s finished I can no longer reread the text 
I’ve composed. As of now I’ve found no work-around for this.
if anyone else is experiencing this issue I’d love to know of it.
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Issue with JFW 16 and Windows live mail

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes I do and in typical fashion now that I posted itself as mysteriously as 
it afflicted me it's righted itself. Thanks for all suggestions though.  the 
window had been maximized and I'd refreshed screen initially to no avail but 
at least for now it's righted itself.  Here's hoping it maintains. go know 
(smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: jim rawls

Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 8:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Issue with JFW 16 and Windows live mail

Robin, do you have the window maximized? Jim

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:07 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Issue with JFW 16 and Windows live mail

Hi,
I was just curious if anyone can verify the following issue along with me. 
If I compose an email in the current version of windows live mail running 
JFW 16 and I invoke spell checker after it’s finished I can no longer reread 
the text I’ve composed. As of now I’ve found no work-around for this.

if anyone else is experiencing this issue I’d love to know of it.
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] vipre antivirus

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It has been consistently accessible with screen readers for a good while now 
and their support personnel are aware of screen readers and those who use 
them.

I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:17 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vipre antivirus

Is this software jaws friendly?
My subscription of nod32 will run out in a few days. I just saw that this
has a very high rating with free support and virus removal, hope not needed.

---

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Re: [JAWS-Users] amazon cloud player

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Try this page. I still have it installed and once it is installed it'll give 
you the option of choosing to use the newer inaccessible cloud app for pc 
for downloading or say no thanks use the old downloader. I hope this helps.

Robin
http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd-bm.html?ie=UTF8*Version*=1*entries*=0

-Original Message- 
From: john melia

Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] amazon cloud player

I have until now buying songs from itunes. But amazon has a song that I want
but itunes does not have it.  Has anyone used the cloud player there was
once a down loader with the cloud but I did not see that can any one help?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Access to Paypal.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
While I haven't experienced this at Pay Pal I have seen this behavior at the 
site of my financial institution. I didn't catch which version of Jfw and 
which browser the original poster was using and for that I beg your pardon. 
In my instance it was Jfw 15 with Internet Explorer 11.  The work around was 
to navigate to the tools menu add the current page to the compatibility 
viewer and things righted themselves.  It's just something to try which can 
be undone if making no difference easily enough.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Access to Paypal.

Strange, I use Jaws 15 and just completed a checkout on Paypal through eBay
late Friday November 29.

The paypal interface hasn't changed.  One thing I did note is when you go to
checkout from eBay, there is a link to their accessible checkout page, but
once I transitioned to Paypal, the layout was like it has always been.

Just speculating here, but you may have been bitten by the Jaws bug where it
sometimes will not focus on the page on the screen.  Sometimes, if I go to
the address bar, it will not focus back on the screen even if I press
control-f6.  One of two workarounds: First, if you can find something
relevant to the page using the jaws review cursor, you can then move the Pc
cursor to the Jaws cursor with Jaws-key numpad plus.  Second workaround is
to unload and reload Jaws.  I don't experience this issue with either Window
Eyes or System Access when i try to go back ffom the address bar.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Justin McDevitt jus...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 4:51 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Access to Paypal.



Hello List members,



For the past 12 plus years, I have been able to access Paypal using JAWS 
to

complete payment transactions for items on Ebay.



It appears that Ebay recently made some kind of change to their site in
completing the Paypal transaction process. Earlier today, I attempted to 
pay

for an item from an auction that I had won on Ebay. When I clicked on the
log into Paypal link, using the Enter key, a blank page opened up. I
attempted to log in using the spacebar and cursor routing, right mouse 
click
options: none of which allowed me access to Paypal, but again, a blank 
page

opened up on the screen.

Has anyone else on this list encountered this issue? Whether or not you
have, I would appreciate any suggestions for a keystroke, or work-around 
so

that I can access Paypal, (through Ebay) as I have heretofore been able to
do.



Best,



Justin McDevitt

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

[Robin Frost]

   Hi,
It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is 
placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort 
to help resolve this problem.  Whether you or an agency meeting your needs 
purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access 
technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the 
interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken.

Just my two cents no one asked for.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Chela Robles

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

Well this  Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if
it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and
not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to
switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required
by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but
strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works
with NVDA is because it is a plugin.
Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS
Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly.
I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The
only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I
get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the
computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP
machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this
same OS.

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It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation 
that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, 
and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in 
it and the chance to play their own song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s 
case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light 
on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second 
place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins

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On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote:
Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up 
talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to 
get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I 
still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of 
JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in 
order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the 
circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm 
the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it 
to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, 
followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up.


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It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an 
expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of 
light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will 
have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in 
Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that 
sheds light on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant 
second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins

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On 10/13/2013 8:40 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
if you have more than jaws installed, just delete the folder called jaws 
that is  inside freedom. But, is very important that you 1. uninstalled 
jaws. 2. Delete the freedom folder in program files. 3. delete the jaws 
or freedom folder in the folder that you are saying. After this steps, do 
not 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes I understand I'm sorry I hadn't read every message in the thread and 
didn't realize it wasn't fully installed before the failure occurred.

Good luck in your quest for a resolution.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Chela Robles

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS
closes once it displays the error.
BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now?

--
Chela Robles
Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop
--

On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

   Hi,
It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support 
is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an 
effort to help resolve this problem.  Whether you or an agency meeting 
your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to 
access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it 
in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is 
broken.

Just my two cents no one asked for.
Robin


-Original Message- From: Chela Robles
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

Well this  Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if
it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and
not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to
switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required
by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but
strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works
with NVDA is because it is a plugin.
Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS
Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly.
I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The
only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I
get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the
computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP
machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this
same OS.

--
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It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an 
expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of 
light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will 
have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in 
Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that 
sheds light on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant 
second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins

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by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): 
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On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote:
Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up 
talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to 
get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I 
still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of 
JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in 
order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the 
circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that 
I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting 
it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, 
followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up.


--
Teachers have a sacred task:
It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an 
expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of 
light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will 
have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in 
Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that 
sheds light on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant 
second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins

--
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by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): 
http://www.nrffoundation.com/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

[Robin Frost]

,
That made me giggle (smile).  I don’t want to be off topic so won’t post any 
more but thanks for the giggle.
Robin


From: David Ferrin 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

I'm reminded of another saying that fits in this case, you lie and I'll
swear to it. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

,
I thought I'd remembered that quote being attributed to Bernard M. Baruch.  
I hope that helps.
Robin


From: David Ferrin 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

Honestly I don't recall for sure, the only thing is I'm fairly sure it did
not come from a fortune cookie. I hear things from time to time and if
something sticks in my memory well you know the rest. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Stephanie Koetje
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

Hi David,
Where did the quote in your signature come from? Did you write that? I love
it. Smiles.
Stephanie


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-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin [mailto:ow...@jaws-users.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

It came in as an update this morning on my lap top and honestly it seems no
different at all although it might be a bit quicker on the download side of
things but I'm not certain about that as of yet. 
 
The point is I see it as nothing anybody should be afraid to install at this
point.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

[Robin Frost]

,
I thought I’d remembered that quote being attributed to 
Bernard M. Baruch.  
I hope that helps.
Robin


From: David Ferrin 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

Honestly I don't recall for sure, the only thing is I'm fairly sure it did
not come from a fortune cookie. I hear things from time to time and if
something sticks in my memory well you know the rest. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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Behalf Of Stephanie Koetje
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

Hi David,
Where did the quote in your signature come from? Did you write that? I love
it. Smiles.
Stephanie


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From: David Ferrin [mailto:ow...@jaws-users.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

It came in as an update this morning on my lap top and honestly it seems no
different at all although it might be a bit quicker on the download side of
things but I'm not certain about that as of yet. 
 
The point is I see it as nothing anybody should be afraid to install at this
point.
David Ferrin
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that mind don't matter.
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] inaccessibility with IE10

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It’s been my experience that this is best executed if one turns off virtual 
cursor if using jfw. then changes which one has made will take hold.
I hope that helps.
Robin


From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] inaccessibility with IE10

Wonder if you'd have better luck using NVDA, the FREE screen-reader 
which tends to work better with Google's settings  pages. 
http://nvda-project.org
if you want to try it.
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From: Karen Schrade kschr...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] inaccessibility with IE10


 Thanks Flor but, even turning off the virtual cursor didn'tcheck the 
 never
 use google instant. If I can't manage to do this, I'll have to get my
 husband to mouse it which will tick me off. karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] two issues with the latest update.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I too am under windows 7 64 bit edition running latest build of jfw and have 
just successfully reproduced the system tray issue.  It seems to be related to 
the issue with the insert f command and the insert f7 trouble I mentioned in 
another post.  If after invoking the system tray command you hit insert and 
escape focus will come to your system tray as it used to do on its own.  Here’s 
hoping someone else reports this issue along with me.
Robin


From: Kimsan 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 12:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] two issues with the latest update.

You know? I can't do the insert f11 neither now that you mentioned it.
I'm going to reboot once more and see whaat happens.


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Behalf Of adam morris
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] two issues with the latest update.

Hi all,

running win7 64 home premium with professional jfw.

two issues I've found.

These are both after restarting the pc after the update was installed
successfully.

1. you are unable to use insert f11 to get to the system tray, it just
doesn't open the list of items.

2. I have a htm file with all my contacts, if i use an insert f to find a
contact the dialogue doesn't open.

Both these things were working yesterday before installing the new update.

I haven't installed any new software prior to update.

I am running as administrator when installing update.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW V. 14 crashing Windows Explore under Windows 7

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Interesting thought though here it is unchecked and though seems to happen with 
less frequency still happens from time to time.
Robin


From: Maria Campbell 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 1:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW V. 14 crashing Windows Exploer under Windows 7

Press windows key plus E
Tab or shift tab to command module.
Left arrow to preview pane and enter to uncheck if checked.


Sunny Day
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Then the world will know peace.

On 11/25/2012 10:12 AM, Robert Arrabito wrote:
 Hi all,

   

 I am running JFW V. 14 under Windows 7 Pro on a 64-bit Dell PC. When I copy
 files from one folder to another folder, Windows Exploer often crashes. I
 then need to go into the task manager and end the task. When I cannot end
 the task then I need to reboot my PC. The Windows Exploer  crash occurs
 under JFW V. 14 and not JFW V. 13. So I'm guessing that the crash is
 particular to JFW V. 14. Has anyone experienced this crash under JFW V. 14?
 If so then I would appreciate any tips on how to get around this problem
 using JFW V. 14. Thanks.

   

   

 Rob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW V. 14 crashing Windows Explorer under Windows 7

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I too have noted this particularly annoying bug and thought it was just me.  I 
am also running jfw 14 under windows 7 64 bit.
Has anyone else reported this to fs so that they will recognize it as a known 
issue and perhaps address what might in fact be the underlying cause?
I know you shouldn’t wish annoyance on others but in this case misery is sure 
glad to have company.  I thought it was just me (smile).
Robin


From: john melia 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW V. 14 crashing Windows Explorer under Windows 7

Okay  I have the same problem and the preview pane is uncheck thanks for the
tip. I have jaws crashing several programs on this computer have another one
just like with less memory no problem.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon Gosling
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW V. 14 crashing Windows Explorer under Windows
7

I am also using a Dell laptop with Windows 7 and it constantly causes
Windows explorer to crash. It often does this several times in a row and I
have reverted to Jaws 13 most of the time recently.  The laptop has also
started not rebooting when it freezes.  Then I wait several hours and it
boots.  But I am sure it is Jaws 14 conflicting with something.  I have the
Vocalizer voices set up and I can't remember how to get back to Eloquence in
Jaws 14 so I could check if it might be the other voices causing the
problem.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message-
From: Robert Arrabito
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW V. 14 crashing Windows Exploer under Windows 7

Hi all,



I am running JFW V. 14 under Windows 7 Pro on a 64-bit Dell PC. When I copy
files from one folder to another folder, Windows Exploer often crashes. I
then need to go into the task manager and end the task. When I cannot end
the task then I need to reboot my PC. The Windows Exploer  crash occurs
under JFW V. 14 and not JFW V. 13. So I'm guessing that the crash is
particular to JFW V. 14. Has anyone experienced this crash under JFW V. 14?
If so then I would appreciate any tips on how to get around this problem
using JFW V. 14. Thanks.





Rob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre Anti Virus

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I use it under the exact environment which you specified and it works 
splendidly.
Robin

From: Glenn Lemacher 
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre Anti Virus

Hello all, does anyone know or use Vipre anti virus with Jaws 13 and 
windows 7. I'm thinking of trying the thirty day trial. I was using MSE and 
liked it very much, but it caused a problem with my computer booting up.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New version of free youtube to mp3 converterwon't download youtube videos

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I just used the current version of free YouTube to mp3 converter this very day 
with JFW 13 under windows 7 64 bit and it downloaded content just fine.
Robin


From: Kimsan 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New version of free youtube to mp3 converterwon't 
download youtube videos

Have you tried the website version?
http://www.youtube-mp3.org/

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maheen
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 11:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New version of free youtube to mp3 converter won't
download youtube videos

I tried to download a youtube video with the free youtube to mp3 converter,
but the annoying thing is tehy keep updating it every three to four weeks.
Does anyone know of a better converter that will download youtube videos
that is accessible? Free youtube to mp3 converter was so good, but this
latest update isn't letting me donwload. There's gotta be another way of
doing this without it keep on updating all the time.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding wordweb

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
yes it works just fine under Windows 7.
Robin


From: tara fakhri 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding wordweb

hi all kindly can any1 tell me is wordweb dictionary compatible with
window 7? thanks in advance regards

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13.0.852 not tabbing to links in windows live mail

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I've experienced this malady as well and did report it to FS yesterday and was 
told that someone else had reported it as well.  For now they offered no work 
around but it is duly noted at least by two of us.  Perhaps your friend or you 
on her behalf could report it as well so that it can be escalated.
Robin



From: Josh Eubank 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 13.0.852 not tabbing to links in windows live mail


I have a friend who uses Windows Live Mail. She said that before she updated 
JAWS to the latest release, she was able to tab to links within messages 
without any problems. But now however, since the update, it is no longer 
working. Is there anything I could tell her to try? Has, or is anyone else 
experiencing this? Please let me know, I am trying to help her out in getting 
this resolved. Thanks,

Josh
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Select or Change Options On Google SearchSettingsPage

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It's not just you nor is it your screen reader.  I've experienced the same with 
Jfw 13 as well as System Access.

Yes the explanation simply put would be that Google has changed their code to 
the detriment of accessibility.  I submitted their accessibility contact form 
for reporting problems yesterday with little expectation of results.  Perhaps 
if others complain they'll augment their changes improving the situation once 
again.
Robin



From: Gerald Levy 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Select or Change Options On Google 
SearchSettingsPage



Hi list.  Using JAWS 9 and IE 8, I am somehow no longer able to change or 
select any options on the Google search settings page under options on the 
Google home page.  For example, under the heading Google Instant Predictions, 
the words On and Off are displayed, but there is apparently no way to select 
either of these options.  Under the Results Per Page heading, the numbers 10, 
20, 30, 40,  50 and 100 are shown, but there is no way to select the option you 
want.  And when I hit Space or Enter on the Save Preferences button, nothing 
happens.  I have cookies enabled, so that's not the issue. JAWS announces that 
there are no check boxes or radio boxes on the page.   I never had problems 
with the Google Search Settings page before.  Previously, the settings could be 
changed by selecting the appropriate check box or radio box, but JAWS either no 
longer recognizes these boxes on the Search Settings page, or they have 
otherwise been eliminated.  Did Google change the Search Settings page so that 
it is no longer JAWS accessible?  Or am I missing something?  Can someone 
explain what the heck is going on with the Google Search Settings page?  Thanks 
for any help.

Gerald 

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