Re: [Linux-users] CLUG list test

2024-01-29 Thread steve
Yeah, we've earned the grey beard of seniority... 37 years in the Unix/Linux 
field now, and I've just explained the correct permissions on /tmp, and why.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!

Steve

January 29, 2024 10:11 PM, "Chris Hellyar" mailto:ch...@trash.co.nz?to=%22Chris%20Hellyar%22%20)> 
wrote:
    Hi Steve, long time no type. :-)

I had the 'how long you been at this' conversation with a good friend 
on Saturday night who's been at this IT thing for the same time as me. 33, 
going on 34 years in IT now. Crazy stuff.

According to what I can find on Archive.org I beat you to the list by a 
few years. Weird reading some of my old answers to questions on the list circa 
2001-2002. They could be replies to questions at work today. Somethings change, 
but some never do!

- Chris H.
On 29/01/24 10:49, st...@greengecko.co.nz (mailto:st...@greengecko.co.nz) 
wrote:I've been here about 15 years now.
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG list test

2024-01-28 Thread steve
I've been here about 15 years now.

January 25, 2024 3:12 AM, "James Osbourne Holmes" 
mailto:jamesosbournehol...@gmail.com?to=%22James%20Osbourne%20Holmes%22%20)>
 wrote:
Got it. Thank you.jim
No Dual Citizens in American Government.

Dual Citizens are by definition Traitors. 
I support lawful immigration and integration into American Culture. 
I am not a "racist"; I am a Race Realist. 
Stop funding Dictatorships when we have Veterans sleeping on the street. 
United States is a Vatican corporation operated by Israel and occupied by 
Communist China. 
America is a state of mind. 
James Osbourne Holmes

a/k/a Red Pill Media
Go in a good way. 
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 3:26 AM Chris Hellyar mailto:ch...@trash.co.nz)> wrote: 
Evening,

Calling it a reunion is fine, given it's been over 20yrs since the 
original meetings.

I wonder how many of the originals we can get along? :-) I was there 
early-ish but I think Nick R would remember who the originals were? You still 
on the list Nick? The Linux users list existed at the Uni for a while before 
the Clug meetings happened, I know that.

It was before April 2002 though, I still have the presentation I did on 
April 29th 2002, in Star Office format! Bonus points if anyone can find what 
the topic was given the main list archive only goes back to 2010, but it is 
online if you look hard enough, along with the first meeting announcements etc. 
:-)

Ideas for Talks.. Wow. So much has changed since I last went to a 
CLUG meeting and I have no idea of where the interest lies these days.

Meetup.com is as good a place as any these days, it's discoverable etc.

- Chris H.
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Thanks people for the feedback.

Time to 'mark your diaries' if keen:

Tonight, two weeks away, the Sydenham Community Hall at 25 Hutcheson Street has 
been booked - door open 7pm to 9pm, Wednesday 7 February 2024.

Usual format - BYO tech gadgets, demo installs, ideas for talks & venue, 
conviviality - tea/coffee/biscuits provided, small donation towards hall hire.

Is everyone happy this should be called a Canterbury Linux Users Group Reunion?

Any suggestions/proscriptions for how this event should be advertised? e.g. on 
Meetup is ok?

Any other requests?

Kia ora, Rik 

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Re: [Linux-users] fedora query

2022-07-31 Thread steve
I'm using F36 as my main desktop. dnf just does it in my experience.

Steve

July 30, 2022 12:08 PM, "Rik Tindall"  wrote:

> "Hi, do you know of anyone in CHCH who can help out upgrading fedora?"
> 
> Email contact will be established for anyone interested.
> 
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Re: [Linux-users] Boot help, in-person if possible

2021-02-14 Thread Steve Brorens
Thanks very much

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021, 22:45 Helmut Walle  wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> sorry to hear about health and energy - all the best for improvements in
> that regard!
>
> (U)EFI dual boot can become tricky with some combinations. Which Windows
> version do you have?
> And can you still boot the Linux system?
>
> Why does the error message read "Failed to load image
> \EFI\ubunti\grubx64.efi: Volume Corrupt"?
> More specifically, is it really meant to be "ubunti", as opposed to
> "ubuntu"? I am not a Ubuntu
> expert by any measure, but doesn't this look odd?
>
> I am afraid I don't have a straight and proven solution to this issue, but
> maybe some pointers,
> and you may already be aware of these points, but just to cover some
> work-arounds:
>
> * If you can still boot the Linux system you should be able to mount the
> Windows partition to
> get your data.
> * If you can't boot your Linux system directly from the HD you may still
> be able to boot from
> external storage (e.g., USB pen drive) and start the Linux system on your
> HD from there. Or at
> least you could get access to both Linux and Windows data via booting from
> USB storage.
> * How much work would it be to re-install both systems? I appreciate you
> are not keen on that.
> When I had a stuck system that I could not get back to booting Windows
> after three attempts of
> running different flavours of Windows repair, I have copied off all data
> via USB boot, and then
> reinstalled both systems. If the systems include a lot of customisation
> and installed software,
> that may end up taking much time, though...
>
> Besides these generic points, I have noticed some problems with UEFI
> dual-booting Linux/Windows
> a few months ago, and I have since been unable to boot the Windows 7
> system. I ended up
> re-installing both OpenSUSE Linux Leap 15.2 and Windows 7, however I still
> haven't been able to
> get the Windows 7 part of the affair to boot. But the symptoms here are
> different from yours -
> my Windows goes BSOD when booting; Windows Safe Mode does not help either
> in my case.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Helmut.
>
> On 13/02/2021 13:58, Steve Brorens wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Had a very sweet dual boot system on my T490 working for the last year
> or more. Today, did a
> > "reboot" on the windows side and up came up:
> >
> > Unexpected return from initial read: Volume Corrupt, buffersize 1000.
> >
> > Failed to load image \EFI\ubunti\grubx64.efi: Volume Corrupt
> >
> > start_image() returned Volume Corrupt
> >
> > My health and energy is currently quite bad, I simply can't face the
> hassle of chasing this myself.
> >
> > If you or one you know can help out - or if you know of a commercial
> service that could do this
> > please get back to me.
> >
> > I care about OS and data on both L and W, so just reformatting and
> reinstalling is not something
> > I'll be doing.
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Re: [Linux-users] Boot help, in-person if possible

2021-02-13 Thread Steve Brorens
Thanks very much Helmut. Yes "ubunti" = "ubuntu", I am restricted to
working from my phone.

I think I'll organise a Ubuntu on a USB and boot from that. As you say I
should then be able to start the one on disk.

Wish me luck



On Sat, Feb 13, 2021, 22:45 Helmut Walle  wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> sorry to hear about health and energy - all the best for improvements in
> that regard!
>
> (U)EFI dual boot can become tricky with some combinations. Which Windows
> version do you have?
> And can you still boot the Linux system?
>
> Why does the error message read "Failed to load image
> \EFI\ubunti\grubx64.efi: Volume Corrupt"?
> More specifically, is it really meant to be "ubunti", as opposed to
> "ubuntu"? I am not a Ubuntu
> expert by any measure, but doesn't this look odd?
>
> I am afraid I don't have a straight and proven solution to this issue, but
> maybe some pointers,
> and you may already be aware of these points, but just to cover some
> work-arounds:
>
> * If you can still boot the Linux system you should be able to mount the
> Windows partition to
> get your data.
> * If you can't boot your Linux system directly from the HD you may still
> be able to boot from
> external storage (e.g., USB pen drive) and start the Linux system on your
> HD from there. Or at
> least you could get access to both Linux and Windows data via booting from
> USB storage.
> * How much work would it be to re-install both systems? I appreciate you
> are not keen on that.
> When I had a stuck system that I could not get back to booting Windows
> after three attempts of
> running different flavours of Windows repair, I have copied off all data
> via USB boot, and then
> reinstalled both systems. If the systems include a lot of customisation
> and installed software,
> that may end up taking much time, though...
>
> Besides these generic points, I have noticed some problems with UEFI
> dual-booting Linux/Windows
> a few months ago, and I have since been unable to boot the Windows 7
> system. I ended up
> re-installing both OpenSUSE Linux Leap 15.2 and Windows 7, however I still
> haven't been able to
> get the Windows 7 part of the affair to boot. But the symptoms here are
> different from yours -
> my Windows goes BSOD when booting; Windows Safe Mode does not help either
> in my case.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Helmut.
>
> On 13/02/2021 13:58, Steve Brorens wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Had a very sweet dual boot system on my T490 working for the last year
> or more. Today, did a
> > "reboot" on the windows side and up came up:
> >
> > Unexpected return from initial read: Volume Corrupt, buffersize 1000.
> >
> > Failed to load image \EFI\ubunti\grubx64.efi: Volume Corrupt
> >
> > start_image() returned Volume Corrupt
> >
> > My health and energy is currently quite bad, I simply can't face the
> hassle of chasing this myself.
> >
> > If you or one you know can help out - or if you know of a commercial
> service that could do this
> > please get back to me.
> >
> > I care about OS and data on both L and W, so just reformatting and
> reinstalling is not something
> > I'll be doing.
> >
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[Linux-users] Boot help, in-person if possible

2021-02-12 Thread Steve Brorens
Hi,

Had a very sweet dual boot system on my T490 working for the last year  or
more. Today, did a "reboot" on the windows side and up came up:

Unexpected return from initial read: Volume Corrupt, buffersize 1000.

Failed to load image \EFI\ubunti\grubx64.efi: Volume Corrupt

start_image() returned Volume Corrupt

My health and energy is currently quite bad, I simply can't face the hassle
of chasing this myself.

If you or one you know can help out - or if you know of a commercial
service that could do this please get back to me.

I care about OS and data on both L and W, so just reformatting and
reinstalling is not something I'll be doing.
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[Linux-users] Linux commandline/sysadmin course restarting this coming Monday.

2020-12-01 Thread Steve Brorens
See https://LinuxUpskillChallenge.org

I've been successfully running this free course each month since February.

For most of us here, December is probably a terrible time to commit to such
a lesson-a-day course, but if it DOES suit, you'll be welcome.

Possibly a good thing to bookmark for next year, to pass on to that person
who's always saying they're keen to "up" their skills when they "get a
round tuit" :-)

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[Linux-users] Linux commandline/sysadmin course restarting this coming Monday

2020-04-27 Thread Steve Brorens
See http://linuxupskillchallenge.com/
I've now been running this as a free course each month since February -
daily lessons appear in the sub-reddit *r/**linuxupskillchalleng*e - which
is also used for support/discussion. This is a 'rolling' course repeated
each month.
Announcing now to give you plenty of time to set up your server in time for
Monday if you want to participate!
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Re: [Linux-users] Time to change email

2017-09-15 Thread steve
Hmm... some of you might know I spent about 5 years fighting 
spam.Probably the most soul destroying job known to man. You can check 
out any time you want...


As you're on this list, I assume you have at least a passing interest in 
tinkering with linux. So with that in mind, I would find myself a cheap 
and cheerful hosting provider, and rent a virtual server off them. Then 
set yourself up on it.


The upside: hours of endless fun, and the download speeds in serverland 
are truly impressive.


The downside: mail delivery is largely reputation based, and you will 
start off with a lot of your stuff being delivered to spam. You'll have 
to find out how to set up exciting things like SPF, DKIM, and maybe even 
DMARC, and spam filtering. And you really need to understand what these 
services to to use them effectively ( I recently responded to a rant by 
a prominent local IT 'guru' about the difference between the SPF ~all 
and -all and why the former wasn't a complete waste of time for example ).


It will not be as cheap as commercial services, and it will let through 
far more spam than the gmails of this world. Once working though, the 
site will be pretty reliable: set up backups and use IMAP clients and 
you've got a far better DR solution than VF ever offered in the first 
place ). And of course, there are many uses for a VPN to a server in the 
USA for example...


HTH,

Steve

On 15/09/17 21:17, Chris Hellyar wrote:

My 2c...

Buy your own domain, pay for commercial email hosting with a provider
you feel you can trust.

Do not purchase the domain through the ISP who hosts the email, so when
you decide you don't like the ISP you can go elsewhere and easily take
your address(es) with you.

Agree totally with what Volker said: "declaring their personal worth as
$0.00 with gmail post vodafail."

Personally I use Rackspace, in the USA, and I use no free email accounts
for email I care about.  Not cheap, but excellent service etc.

Cheers, Chris H.

On 15/09/17 18:25, Steven Sykes wrote:

Hey everyone,

I'm sure you've seen the news Vodafone is dropping their email service
so I'm in the market for another hosting solution and I'm curious
about what other people are using.

Having a quick rummage about the place and Lavabit, ProtonMail,
Fastmail seem like interesting contenders. A 5GB inbox at least would
be good.

I don't want to use Gmail or Lookout (or is it spelt OutLook? :)). The
idea of having bots trawling through my email is unsettling. In some
respects, one might as well use Gmail as sooner or later you'll end up
communicating with other Gmail users and having your email scrutinised.

Or is my logic flawed?

Cheers,



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Re: [Linux-users] Cheap rack $1 Buy Now

2017-07-03 Thread steve

Comms rack at that depth. Should work for short cases though.


On 03/07/17 18:42, criggie wrote:


http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1362095455

In christchurch too,


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Re: [Linux-users] Clearout time...

2017-04-11 Thread steve

Hi George (:

Only PC2-5300 stuff. 512MB

Cheers,


Steve


On 12/04/17 10:28, Peter Simmonds wrote:


Hi Chris,

Is there any laptop memory? I'm looking for ddr1-3 stuff

Also keen on one 17inch monitor.

Cheers,

Peter


On 11/04/2017 11:43 a.m., steve wrote:


Sorry no ECC... It's all the cheap stuff (:


On 11/04/17 09:40, Bevan wrote:




On 11 April 2017 at 08:18, steve <st...@greengecko.co.nz 
<mailto:st...@greengecko.co.nz>> wrote:


but no HDD.


Hi Steve

Do you have any PC3-10600 DDR3-1333 ECC Ram ?

Regards

Bevan

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Re: [Linux-users] Clearout time...

2017-04-10 Thread steve

Sorry no ECC... It's all the cheap stuff (:


On 11/04/17 09:40, Bevan wrote:




On 11 April 2017 at 08:18, steve <st...@greengecko.co.nz 
<mailto:st...@greengecko.co.nz>> wrote:


but no HDD.


Hi Steve

Do you have any PC3-10600 DDR3-1333 ECC Ram ?

Regards

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[Linux-users] Clearout time...

2017-04-10 Thread steve

Does anyone have interest in...


SCSI stuff.Adaptec AHA 2940W/UW, Adaptec 29320 Ultra 320 SE, 2 x seagate 
50GB (!) 10k6 SE drives. Couple of cables too.


Old desktop machines. Core 2 duo, will come with at least 2GB mem but no 
HDD. Replace DVD writer with second HDD and will make for a great NAS. 
Also have wired mouse/kb and square 17 inch monitors for same.


A load of old memory. Ask for specifics.

Cheers,


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Re: [Linux-users] Be a Linux secret squirrel

2017-02-24 Thread steve

On 22/02/17 21:50, Ross Drummond wrote:

Unfortunately it seems like a work in basement rather than
walking into a casino and ordering a Martini, shaken not stirred, type
of job.



.. and a basement in Wellington too.

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Re: [Linux-users] startup woes

2017-01-24 Thread steve
you should be able to pretend that you've in your normal environment 
using a load of 'mount  ...' commands followed by a chroot. There are 
plenty of examples online - 
http://superuser.com/questions/52/whats-the-proper-way-to-prepare-chroot-to-recover-a-broken-linux-installation 
seems to approximately mirror your environment.


Steve


On 01/24/2017 10:49 AM, Barry wrote:

Thank you for your reply, what a horrible suggestion.

After googling I opened a second xterm and logged in no problem. mount 
showed that the correct ptn was mounted and df showed I have 7G 
available. I then tried startx which failed with error 1.


Checking the log file showed this msg "(EE) Devices detected, but none 
match those in the config file" so looks like i chose the wrong monitor.


uname -a gives "Linux localhost 3.8.13-desktop-1.mga3 
#1..."  I have not run Mageia 3 for a number of years. I 
did use this partition as root then but it should have been 
overwritten by the new install.


The kernel shown in /boot dir is "vmlinuz-4.4.30-desktop-2.mga5". This 
is what I expected uname to give me.


Where do I go to now?

TIA, Barry

--- 


On 24/01/17 09:00, Roger Searle wrote:

Sorry to hear :(

Motherboard failure?

Roger

On 23/01/2017 7:36 p.m., Barry wrote:
Hi All, the heading understates my problem - I can no longer boot my 
desktop!!!


The setup is I have 2 hard drives, 1 with 6 ptns and the other with 
8. Each drive has (or should have) 2 bootable ptns. I am using grub 
to start any one of them but none work. All attempts to reinstate 
boot records have failed and the mbr has some funny entries.


Rescue disks on hand include install disks for Mageia 4, and Mageia 
5 and a live dvd for Mageia 5. Also a Knoppix 5 disk and a 
Boot-Repair-Disk. None of the install disks appear to be writing to 
the mbr.


Does the live dvd run in a ramdisk only? I have tried to set up a 
bootable ptn (sdb1 or sdb6) from this disk several times but it does 
not appear to overwrite the mbr by the look of the choices when I 
reboot. Also tried to make small changes which should show up on a 
real disk later


The last install from the live disk was to /dev/sdb, with bootloader 
grub on /dev/sda . This time the grub menu was correct. It started 
to boot but stopped when dependencies failed for sda9 (swap) and 
sdb5 (data)


Help and condolencies will be most appreciated

Barry

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Re: [Linux-users] startup woes

2017-01-24 Thread steve

On 01/23/2017 07:36 PM, Barry wrote:
Hi All, the heading understates my problem - I can no longer boot my 
desktop!!!


The setup is I have 2 hard drives, 1 with 6 ptns and the other with 8. 
Each drive has (or should have) 2 bootable ptns. I am using grub to 
start any one of them but none work. All attempts to reinstate boot 
records have failed and the mbr has some funny entries.


Rescue disks on hand include install disks for Mageia 4, and Mageia 5 
and a live dvd for Mageia 5. Also a Knoppix 5 disk and a 
Boot-Repair-Disk. None of the install disks appear to be writing to 
the mbr.


Does the live dvd run in a ramdisk only? I have tried to set up a 
bootable ptn (sdb1 or sdb6) from this disk several times but it does 
not appear to overwrite the mbr by the look of the choices when I 
reboot. Also tried to make small changes which should show up on a 
real disk later


The last install from the live disk was to /dev/sdb, with bootloader 
grub on /dev/sda . This time the grub menu was correct. It started to 
boot but stopped when dependencies failed for sda9 (swap) and sdb5 (data)


Help and condolencies will be most appreciated

Barry



The live disk will run purely in memory. This should allow you to see 
your disks and hopefully fix your boot problems. First off - can you see 
both disks, and are they the right way around?


good luck ( and I still owe you a lunch! ),

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Re: [Linux-users] Discovery of global IPv6 address

2017-01-07 Thread steve



On 01/05/2017 01:51 PM, Ross Drummond wrote:

The problem is I want to discover the global Ipv6 address of hosts on
my LAN knowing the MAC address of each host.

Feeding the MAC address to the program ipv6calc to get the link local
address works fine but when I use this address with ping6 and its
discovery arguments I fail.

An example;

ping6 -I eth0 -N ipv6-global fe80::3631:::

 From the ping6 man page;

-N nodeinfo_option

   ping6 only.  Send ICMPv6 Node Information Queries(RFC4620), instead of  Echo 
 Request.   CAP_NET_RAW
capability  is required.

   help   Show help for NI support.

   name   Queries for Node Names.

   ipv6   Queries for IPv6 Addresses. There are several IPv6
   specific flags.

  ipv6-global
 Request IPv6 global-scope addresses.

  ipv6-sitelocal
 Request IPv6 site-local addresses.

  ipv6-linklocal
 Request IPv6 link-local addresses.

  ipv6-all
 Request IPv6 addresses on other interfaces.

What am I doing wrong, is their another method of discovering the Ipv6
global address of a host on your LAN?

Cheers Ross Drummond


ip -6 neigh show

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Re: [Linux-users] Back ups, cloud storage and the kitchen sink

2016-11-21 Thread steve

On 11/17/2016 11:51 AM, Andrew Sands wrote:


Hi all,

Just thinking I should do better with my data backup procedures. 
Currently throwing stuff onto portable USB drives in rotation - when I 
remember.


Is anyone using a 'cloud storage' provider and provide experiences 
either good, bad or indifferent.


And keeping on topic this is for my Linux boxen,

Cheers, keep steady and thanks in advance.

Andrew

Sorry for the late reply... was away doing stupid things in Queenstown 
over the weekend...


The problem with backing up to physical devices that you carry elsewhere 
is, of course that you forget, get them out of order and generally abuse 
them - eg cycling home in the rain - so that they get less reliable over 
time. The problem with backing up to the cloud is speed, especially if - 
like me - you live in the wops, and have a massive 100KB/s ADSL uplink 
speed or worse.


So, it's important to decide what you want the backup to do, as it'll 
colour what solution that you go for.


It's possible to mount an Amazon S3 bucket ( for example ) on a linux 
server, to provide a fairly cost-effective, remote target. There are a 
number of free products that make use of the '--link-dest' flag of 
rsync, as this will create a new directory tree for each backup, but 
will hardlink any files that are unchanged, dramatically reducing 
transfer and storage requirements ( well, after the initial upload ). I 
use a package called snapback2, but there are others out there. All the 
advantages of an incremental backup with none of the headaches (:


Obviously databases are harder to backup. Snapshots will never be able 
to take advantage of the above feature, but you can use log files, and 
weekly dumps to reduce volumes. It all just gets more complex, but if 
you need Point In Time Recovery, then you need to research the alternatives.


Encryption becomes less of an issue as your backups are an unmounted S3 
bucket when not in use... worst case the keys are on the server, so your 
backups are only at risk if your server is breached.


The advantage of this approach is that it's easy to find and restore 
files: no need to download a full archive and extract stuff so in the 
case of an accidentally lost file, it's a trivial task to recover it... 
and you can do things to make it even easier like mounting the current 
backup as a readonly link for example.


( Yes, I know, all things are relative, and risk is a very subjective 
scale ).


hth,

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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

2016-05-16 Thread steve

I vote 3, but we really should organise a subset of 1. Been too long!

On 05/17/2016 02:58 PM, Chris Hellyar wrote:


Given that I still wear the installfest T-shirt occasionally I thought 
I'd throw my vote in as well. :-)


I think if Rick has a use for the money for the SFD's that would be a 
good local use for the money.


Cheers, Chris H.

-Original Message-

From: "David Kirk" <davidrk...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2016 09:52
To: "Canterbury Linux Users Group" <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

Hi Chris,
The balance is about $470.
So, we have three suggestions so far.
1. Drink it away
2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly 
meetings

3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation
I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The 
group can decide.
Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  Do 
you have some ideas about what you would use it for?

I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.
Lets vote.
Thanks
David

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM csawtell <csawt...@gmail.com 
<mailto:csawt...@gmail.com>> wrote:


The "politically correct" thing to do with the remaining bank
balance would be to gift it to the Free Software Foundation. I
would not have any qualms putting my signature to a payment
document which did this.
btw : . What is the balance?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message 
From: Criggie <crig...@criggie.org.nz <mailto:crig...@criggie.org.nz>>
Date: 16/05/2016 15:17 (GMT+12:00)
To: linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz
<mailto:linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:37:08 +1200
From: Derek Smithies <derek.smith...@gmail.com
<mailto:derek.smith...@gmail.com>>
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group
<linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz
<mailto:linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>>
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com
<mailto:5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"

>   I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a
really
good reason to keep going?
> We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...

I'd rather you didn't - that's the sort of thing that ends up
misreported
in the newspaper.

Since there is no clug, anyone can do what they want.  This is one
of the
times where no-clug is a bad thing.

Formalised groups have wind-up proceedings as part of their
charter.  Clug
doesn't.

So David - you could do anything or nothing, completely without
consultation or approval.

I'd make a suggestion that we consider these groups as worthy possible
recipients for some or all of the funds.

* Rik, for his ongoing work in the OSS field.
* UOC for their contribution of mailing list, this being the only
thing
that holds CLUG together
* WLUG, for being an Incorporated Society and doing the FOS/OSS thing.


Noone's used horse in a long time.  I'm happy to turn it off.

This is assuming that David can take money out of the bank without
losing
arms, legs or an entire firstborn.

Thoughts?



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Re: [Linux-users] Linux Conference Australia 2019 in Christchurch

2016-05-16 Thread steve

On 05/17/2016 09:59 AM, Steven Sykes wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm looking at the possibility of having an LCA event hosted here in 
Christchurch possibly in 2019 or maybe 2020.


I am wondering who out there would like to be part of a team to help 
bring the first ever LCA to Christchurch. If you have ever been to an 
LCA before you'll be aware just how exciting they are!


I have been talking with Linux Australia and the organiser of LCA when 
it was in Auckland and there is definite interest in having an LCA 
here. We just need to make it happen.


This venture has the support of the university.

Check out previous LCA events here: https://linux.org.au/LCA

Cheers,


Happy to help.

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Re: [Linux-users] modem recommendations - VoIP on 2talk

2016-04-17 Thread steve

On 04/18/2016 01:17 PM, Criggie wrote:

From: Roger Searle <ro...@stepahead.org.nz>
Hi everyone, I am seeing experience or recommendations on a reliable
modem/router for our in-house VoIP system (FreePBX / Asterisk to make it
list relevant) to replace one that is now showing some unreliability.
Service provider is 2talk on an ADSL line dedicated to VoIP.


The very best thing you could do would be to get onto UFB fibre and ditch
the DSL modems completely.  That would give you an ethernet link straight
to your firewall and no modem required.
- note UFB comes with a huawei ONT which is not a router or modem, its a
glorified media converter but you can't not use it.

xDSL is dying, sooner you can leave it the better.

Also, because of Stepahead's status you might be able to get a "business
class UFB"  which has better SLAs, and has a "high priority" traffic
channel.  So of a 30 Mbit fibre, you'll have 2 or 2.5 Mbit of prioritised
traffic.  That's enough for ~20 uncompressed calls.

I just bunged a TDM400P into my existing firewall, so I could still use 
my old number / DECT kit, and the olds can ring me for free around the 
world ( I still use IAX2 - because nobody else does sound quality is 
brilliant ) using BT friends and family. I have a spare... (:


As for fibre... yeah, right... bung us some over. Uploading websites is 
still best done overnight over ADSL, the best that we can get!


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Re: [Linux-users] Do Linux users get "past it"?

2016-04-16 Thread Steve holdoway



On 16/04/16 16:31, Robert Fisher wrote:


I added another HDD, mounted it at /mnt/store2 then spent nearly an 
hour trying to figure out why I could not connect to the samba share at

/mnt/store1

Rob Fisher


at times like this I regret giving up smoking ( 14th August 1987, about 
2:30pm thanks for asking! ), as the act of walking away for 10 minutes 
usually helps.


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Re: [Linux-users] Google-chrome and chromium wont accept facebook ssl cert

2016-03-18 Thread steve

On 03/16/2016 11:20 PM, Bevan wrote:

Hi Guys

I have an issue Google-chrome and chromium wont accept facebook ssl 
cert or the dia.govt.nz <http://dia.govt.nz> ssl cert firefox has not 
issues. Any one have any idea how to fix it


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In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows?


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As a workaround, have you tried the --ignore-certificate-errors flag?

Just as an aside, both these sites work fine on my machine: 
google-chrome Version 48.0.2564.116 (64-bit), CentOS 7.


Is your machine patched up to date??? It could be local intermediate 
certs being out of date.


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Re: [Linux-users] CCCitizen

2016-03-15 Thread steve



On 03/16/2016 03:36 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:

On 16 March 2016 at 15:17, Nick Rout <nick.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

F***ers want my email address, NO!



^ this. You're failing the security questions just by participating in
the test :p


Running my own mail server, I just put in a gash address, and declined 
to sign up to receive news on the modal window that appears when I press 
'Digital Info'


2 buttons: Close and Submit..

Error message: You must pick a valid industry.

No place anywhere to load up that info.

Neither button works.

Nowhere to report the error.

Firefox 38.6.1.

CentOS 7.

Maybe someone from the council is reading this list. Maybe they can get 
this fixed.




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Re: [Linux-users] xargs and awkery

2016-03-09 Thread steve

On 03/08/2016 05:57 PM, Criggie wrote:

I'm sure this can be optimised, but how's this for some dirty hackery.



server.dc home $  `cat _fdupes-2016-03-08.txt | xargs -n 3 | awk ' { print
  "rm -f " $2, $3  " ; ln " $1 , $2 " ; ln " $1, $3 } '`



Clue 1

the input file contains the output of fdupes, and listed only triples of
identical files.  There were no fours or twos
A better one would have looked for a blank line in the input, and looped
through from 2 to N .






Clue 2 before

server.dc home $ ll ./dir?/abc
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root nagios 76047612 Sep  9 22:39 ./dir1/abc
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root nagios 76047612 Sep  9 22:39 ./dir2/abc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   76047612 Oct 28 02:52 ./dir3/abc







Clue 3 after

server.dc home $ ll ./dir?/abc
-rw-rw-r-- 3 root nagios 76047612 Sep  9 22:39 ./dir1/abc
-rw-rw-r-- 3 root nagios 76047612 Sep  9 22:39 ./dir2/abc
-rw-rw-r-- 3 root nagios 76047612 Sep  9 22:39 ./dir3/abc



I think the nifty thing was -n 3 for xargs. I was unaware it could do that.


Answer
This machine has a lot of largish files triplicated on the disk.  Since I
can't convert it to a filesyystem with deduplication, this deleted 2/3 of
the files, and hard linked them back into place.
And the script merely spits out shell commands which are then executed.
So testing it is just running the command without the backticks of
execution.

So the mount in question went from 355GB in use to 170GB, or 93% to 45%
usage.



I'd add a --no-run-if-empty to the xargs, just to be paranoid. Can't see 
the need for backtics either ( which should be replaced in modern bashes 
for $(...) so a new shell isn't forked to run the command )


(actually I'd just buy a bigger disk)

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Re: [Linux-users] PATA drives new years special. :-)

2016-01-13 Thread steve

On 01/11/2016 11:11 PM, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

On Sun 10 Jan 2016 13:53:43 NZDT +1300, criggie wrote:


This GMX claim is "secure-washing" at best.

GMX is a LOT further than any NZ ISP will be for some time.

The large European (or at least the German) ISPs agreed a while ago to
raise minimum standards:

  * Email amongst each other is only transported on encrypted channels.
  * Plain text logins (IMAP, POP, SMTP, anything) will be shut down after
  a certain date (which has long passed).
  * (I believe) The really useless ciphers won't be used any more.

I'm not too worried about email sitting unencrypted on a continental-
European server, especially a German one. They operate under privacy
legislation Kiwis can only dream of. For anything better I use gpg.

ISPs in this neck of the woods seem to argue "it's always insecure, so
why do anything". I know one who can't even install certificates
properly, customers insisting on ecrypted logins seem to be a rare
species - i.e. encryption is optional and not even encouraged. Pathetic.

Technically calling GMX "secure" is incorrect, but "much more secure" is
definitely true.

Btw I noticed that Posteo has put up an English user interface. They are
about as good as it gets.   http://posteo.nz

Volker

"from cantva.canterbury.ac.nz (cantva.canterbury.ac.nz [132.181.2.27]) 
by server2.greengecko.co.nz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u0BACAIq028580 
(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for 
<st...@greengecko.co.nz>; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:12:14 +1100"


This is the received header from your post - it's generated by my 
server, so can be trusted at least by me. Most servers try and use 
secure channels if available, but as this is not universal you have to 
have a fallback for a more* guaranteed delivery. I offer, Canterbury 
University uses it. ( verify=NO just means that it didn't check the 
cert/CA: it's still sent encrypted ).


Anyone who believes a server is safer depending on its location is being 
a bit niaive IMO. It's down to the owners on how well it's protected, 
not the local legislation!


Steve

*mail delivery is a minefield of idiotic rules and hoops that you have 
to jump through... there's the odd whim involved too to increase your 
'reputation'. For example, a classic I found last year is that if you 
use IPv6, you're immediately less reliable, and tainted IPv6 addresses 
are stored at a /64 granularity! If you want to preserve your sanity and 
hair, just use one of the big boys and let them worry. Me = masochist. 
sendmail rules.


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Re: [Linux-users] Targeted spam

2015-11-22 Thread steve



On 11/20/2015 12:41 PM, Criggie wrote:
Remember you gave them your email address, so there's some grounds for 
them to claim an existing working relationship. Consider adding email 
aiases to your domain, and throw them away if the address becomes 
widely known. I am trad...@criggie.org.nz at a large ebay-like site, 
for example. 
+1 but does sort of require that you run your own mail server, which has 
loads of downsides too. Just look at the colour of my hair, and I'm only 26!


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Re: [Linux-users] Installing Foundation on Linux Mint 17.2

2015-11-06 Thread steve

http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/sass.html ??

On 11/06/2015 06:06 PM, David Merrick wrote:
Hi does anyone have instructions on how install the sass version of 
Foundation?


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Re: [Linux-users] spammers on linux list

2015-10-29 Thread steve



On 10/29/2015 11:57 PM, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

On Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:56:01 NZDT +1300, Peter Simmonds wrote:


Was only using common sense on that one, and simply forwarding the
spam (back) to the list.

Never draw any conclusions (other than whether it's spam) without a look
at the headers.


What email client ought I be using to actually get the useful
information, such as ip addresses etc?

Thunderbird has an option to display emails as raw, or whatever it's
called, like pressing "v". I forget the details but it was very easy to
show headers.


Otherwise I can look over the
various thunderbird files using a hex editor

Text(!) editor, that's always a good one for debugging. The thunderbird
email format is concatenating emails itno one file, without mbox style
"From " headers and without separators. Easy to access if you have a
string to search for in the headers. Searching bodies will fail if the
body is base64 encoded, and may fail (end of line) if it's MIME encoded.

You could also save the email from thunderbird in mbox format (they call
it "email" format - haha), then use a reliable workhorse like mutt
(instead of that clicky stuff that may show you its interpretation at
any time) to view the actual email text. In mutt, simply press "e".

HTH,

Volker

Thunderbird will only have any say in your mail storage format if you're 
still using POP3. In this multi-device age, this is less than optimal.


To see all message headers, from the menu select view->headers->all.


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Re: [Linux-users] Computer free to first in.

2015-10-29 Thread steve



On 10/29/2015 03:37 PM, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
My problem with RPi is the lack of a SATA connection. Can't properly 
and reliably connect bigger hard disks. Main storage on USB2.0 
bridges? Really? And the throughput sucks of course when everything 
(Ethernet, disk IO, you name it) goes over the same USB bus.

Not quite the 50c computer, but pretty close! :)

Yeah right. By the time you're kitted out with a running RPi in NZ
you've spent into the 3 digits.

Volker


cubieboard / truck

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Re: [Linux-users] Computer free to first in.

2015-10-29 Thread steve



On 10/30/2015 04:42 PM, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

On Fri 30 Oct 2015 16:12:42 NZDT +1300, steve wrote:


cubieboard / truck

I know, have one sitting here running. It has its own problems, namely
software support being worse, but it has decent Ethernet and disk
connectivity. It doesn't have 3 Ethernet ports though so not so good as
firewall.

Volker

I wouldn't bother... there's a myriad of routers that will run open 
source alternatives. OpenWRT and the rest are stunningly reliable ( have 
one on customer site that's been up for 5 years and the only time I've 
touched it is to update it )


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Re: [Linux-users] Syntax to use command output in a script file assigning to variable?

2015-10-20 Thread steve


On 10/14/2015 01:52 PM, Derek Smithies wrote:

Hi

On 14/10/15 13:49, Stephen Irons wrote:

DISKTEMP=$(smartctl -A /dev/sdc | grep Temperature_Celsius | awk 
'{print $10}')


I prefer to use $(...) rather than backticks `...` to capture stdout
from a command pipeline into a shell variable.


Why $( ) instead of backticks ???

Derek.

It runs in the same process, instead of starting a new one just for the 
commend within the backticks.


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Re: [Linux-users] ipv6 and kvm guests...

2015-08-31 Thread steve

Not really practical, as it's in a DC in Sydney (:

On 01/09/15 07:35, Pete Mundy wrote:



Pop a second NIC in the server for v6, therefore no bridging required 
on the v4 interface?


Pete


On 31/08/2015, at 11:57 PM, Chris Hellyar <ch...@trash.co.nz 
<mailto:ch...@trash.co.nz>> wrote:



Hi Steve...

I'd love to help, but I'm not sure what the problem is. :-)

Is this all on a private network, or is the centos on the public 'net 
and you want to route from your client to the 'net without natting it?




On 31/08/15 15:37, steve wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm playing with use of pagespeed and hhvm on one of my servers, 
which I've decided would be best done in private ( and on a more 
recent distro to the CentOS 6 that this server uses ).


However, I'm having problems setting IPv6 up to connect the guest up 
to the internet without some form of bridging. Or more exactly, I'm 
not finding any examples on how to do it.


I don't really want to reconfigure a working configuration by 
enabling bridging, so can anyone help with ip6tables suggestions / 
alternatives to hook the guest up ( server is CentOS 6, client 
debian jessie ).


There is no NATing available, so I can't migrate the ipv4 config 
across to ipv6 equivalents ):


Many TIA,

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Re: [Linux-users] ipv6 and kvm guests...

2015-08-31 Thread steve
The server is remote, on the interwebs, and running CentOS6, which does 
not offer NAT for IPv6. I'm hosting https://www.greengecko.co.nz there 
over IPv4, but the IPv6 copy of the site is on the physical server due 
to not being able to redirect.


I suppose I could just proxy it...


On 31/08/15 23:57, Chris Hellyar wrote:

Hi Steve...

I'd love to help, but I'm not sure what the problem is. :-)

Is this all on a private network, or is the centos on the public 'net 
and you want to route from your client to the 'net without natting it?




On 31/08/15 15:37, steve wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm playing with use of pagespeed and hhvm on one of my servers, 
which I've decided would be best done in private ( and on a more 
recent distro to the CentOS 6 that this server uses ).


However, I'm having problems setting IPv6 up to connect the guest up 
to the internet without some form of bridging. Or more exactly, I'm 
not finding any examples on how to do it.


I don't really want to reconfigure a working configuration by 
enabling bridging, so can anyone help with ip6tables suggestions / 
alternatives to hook the guest up ( server is CentOS 6, client debian 
jessie ).


There is no NATing available, so I can't migrate the ipv4 config 
across to ipv6 equivalents ):


Many TIA,

Steve



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Re: [Linux-users] ipv6 and kvm guests...

2015-08-31 Thread steve



On 01/09/15 12:01, Fraser McGlinn wrote:

On 01/09/15 06:04, steve wrote:

The server is remote, on the interwebs, and running CentOS6, which
does not offer NAT for IPv6. I'm hosting https://www.greengecko.co.nz
there over IPv4, but the IPv6 copy of the site is on the physical
server due to not being able to redirect.

I suppose I could just proxy it...


I'm not following what the problem is here - you can just have a prefix
that is routed to you and you can assign that on the VM Bridge,
otherwise just bridge the physical NIC to the virtual.

You need to get out of the idea of NAT for v6. It doesn't exist, and it
never will.

Remember in v6 land, you don't need to have global unicast addressing on
every interface, you can route over the link-local addressing
(fe80::/10). As long as the end to end v6 is global unicast it all works
fine.

If you can more clearly define your problem, and hopefully it will make
more sense to the list.

Cheers,

Fraser



I obviously am missing something here.

To rephrase.

What are the steps necessary to publish a KVM guest to the internet 
using IPv6?


The server has a /120 allocation, which I have been using from 1 upwards 
and have a dozen or more in use. How should I configure the server - 
without bridging eth0: - to accomplish this, and what subnet will be 
made available to the client??


Cheers,


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[Linux-users] ipv6 and kvm guests...

2015-08-30 Thread steve

Hi folks,

I'm playing with use of pagespeed and hhvm on one of my servers, which 
I've decided would be best done in private ( and on a more recent distro 
to the CentOS 6 that this server uses ).


However, I'm having problems setting IPv6 up to connect the guest up to 
the internet without some form of bridging. Or more exactly, I'm not 
finding any examples on how to do it.


I don't really want to reconfigure a working configuration by enabling 
bridging, so can anyone help with ip6tables suggestions / alternatives 
to hook the guest up ( server is CentOS 6, client debian jessie ).


There is no NATing available, so I can't migrate the ipv4 config across 
to ipv6 equivalents ):


Many TIA,

Steve

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Re: [Linux-users] PATA drives - 80/40G

2015-08-25 Thread steve



On 23/08/15 17:42, Nick Rout wrote:



On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Peter Simmonds 
peter.a.simmo...@gmail.com mailto:peter.a.simmo...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All,

Does it have a reel to reel tape, or punched paper tape storage
device by any chance?


Punched paper tape brings back memories of school.



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[Linux-users] touchscreen support...

2015-08-16 Thread steve

Hi folks,

I bought a cheapo all in one touch screen system a while back - Atom 230 
/ 1GB mem, and sort of got it working well enough to use vlc on it ( it 
sits on the treadmill so I can watch top gear and sweat at the same time 
(: ).


However, the touch interface was a nightmare, being upside down, right 
to left and rather inaccurate. After spending way too much time on it, 
it sort of works. The real problem is that the standard interface ( I've 
just upgraded to Ubuntu vivid ) has really small icons.


Does anyone have experience with alternative, touch oriented interfaces, 
who could make suggestions as to how to make it easier to use?


Cheers,

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Re: [Linux-users] Freenas zfs mirror or raidz 2

2015-08-14 Thread steve

On 15/08/15 11:49, Bevan wrote:


I know this is not exactly a Linux question but i have just built a 
freenas server with 8 gigs of ram and 2 x 3TB NAS HDDs however i have 
also filled it and need to look at buying two more drives should i 
keep it mirror and snapshots or should i use raidz 2

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In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows?

If you're running LVM, then you can add a new pair of disks in raid1 and 
then extend the existing volume group with them. This will allow you to 
then extend the current LV to make use of the added space.


If you're mounting the disks ( raided ) directly, then there's no easy 
way to extend what you've got. If the new pair are larger, and you can 
install them under LVM, you can then copy the contents across, then add 
the old pair to the vol group and then extend. Longwinded and tedious 
but it will work!


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Re: [Linux-users] media transfer to android tablet

2015-08-05 Thread steve



On 06/08/15 13:45, Jim Cheetham wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:29 AM, steve st...@greengecko.co.nz 
mailto:st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:


Cynical head lurches into action when anything involving Kim
Dotcom - he is a criminal after all... whether that's a valid take
or not is another discussion!


I expect that Kim Dotcom wrote about as much code for Mega.nz as Bill 
Gates did for Windows NT. And in a similar way, as I understand things 
he isn't involved with the company any more, either.


-jim


A quick check shows Mona has a bit over 15% shareholding.

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Re: [Linux-users] media transfer to android tablet

2015-08-05 Thread steve
Cynical head lurches into action when anything involving Kim Dotcom - he 
is a criminal after all... whether that's a valid take or not is another 
discussion!


BTW are there fuse filesystems you could use to mount up with lux 
encryption? Every little helps.


On 06/08/15 10:23, Jim Cheetham wrote:
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 11:55 PM, criggie crig...@criggie.org.nz 
mailto:crig...@criggie.org.nz wrote:


ObSecurity comment - spideroak is the only cloud synch thing that
disavows all knowledge of your keys/passwords/encryption strings/etc.
You'll need to get a client on your desktop and your tablet, and
they'll do the magic synchy thing in the background.


Mega.nz have fundamentally the same architecture, and make the same 
promises.


How you evaluate those promises is up to you of course :-)

I tend to look to see how much of the client-side code is open source, 
and how well documented the APIs are. Both spideroak and mega do well 
in that regard, but I tend to prefer Mega over Spideroak now that I 
know the people working on Mega.


-jim


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Re: [Linux-users] media transfer to android tablet

2015-08-04 Thread steve



On 05/08/15 07:27, Col wrote:

On 04/08/15 20:14, Roger Searle wrote:

Hi, I am looking for list wisdom / experience with software that plays
nice between a recent Ubuntu and Android tablets / phones, for the
transfer of photos, music, movies over wifi.  The more user friendly the
better as this is primarily for family members who are not technical.

I've had a look at AirDroid which partly fits the bill, the non-friendly
aspect to that is the need to navigate the android file system - I can
work it out but others are going to have little chance.  Are there some
better options anyone knows of?

Cheers,
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I use ES File Explorer and ssh (sftp).
You can use it to access cloud accounts as well.
But it seems to be transferring a lot slower after recent Android 
updates.




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Re: [Linux-users] Acer aspire one and thin clients found

2015-07-30 Thread steve
Have an older ZG5 model, with a N270 CPU and 1GB RAM / 16GB ( 8SSD + 8 
SDHC ). Been in storage for years, but booted up straight into an old 
version of Ubuntu...


If anyone's interested, drop me a line.

On 31/07/15 08:06, criggie wrote:
Someone mentioned theirs was dying and these have come up on an 
ex-lease clearance site.


There are 3 left, note they're ex-lease so won't be new.

_http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0656/7091/products/Aspire_One_D527_black_grande.jpg?v=1422498456_

  * Intel Atom N570 1.66GHz (Dual Core)
  * Intel NM10 Express
  * 2GB RAM DDR3
  * 320GB SATA HDD
  * NO Optical Drive
  * 10.1” CrystalBrite LED-Backlit Display (1024 x 600) WSVGA
  * Intel GMA 3150
  * Web Cam
  * Wireless
  * VGA, Microphone input, Headphone output, 3x USB, LAN, Card Reader
  * Windows 7 Starter COA *(NO OS Installed)*
  * 30 Day RTB Warranty (Excludes Battery, LCD)
  * *Classed as B-Grade*
  * *Conditions may Include: Missing rubbers on bezel. Minor to Medium
scratches on palm rest  lid. Minor to Medium scratches on screen. *

They're $100 +GST and freight, so if you want one let me know today 
please.



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In addition there are these HP thin clients, model t5740

_http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0656/7091/products/hp_t5740_grande.jpg?v=1429677704_

More info _http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5740/index.shtml_


  Technical Specs:

  * Intel Atom N280 1.66Ghz processor, with Intel GL40 chipset
  * 1GB DDR3 Ram
  * 2GB DDR3 ATA Flash
  * USB x6
  * RJ45 (Network) x1 gigabit NIC
  * Serial Port x1
  * VGA x1
  * Display Port x1
  * Windows XP Embedded loaded
  * Power cable is not included
  * DOA Warranty

I have a couple of these personally and they're most excellent linux 
boxes.  2 GB of disk is enough for a slim install.

They also run Android-x86 nicely.

They're only $20+GST +Freight each.

Let me know ASAP if you want any, I'll organise, and you can give me 
cash on pickup.


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Re: [Linux-users] Linux-friendly laptop repair shop, , recommendations

2015-07-27 Thread steve

On 27/07/15 22:47, Jim Cheetham wrote:



On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:13 PM, criggie crig...@criggie.org.nz 
mailto:crig...@criggie.org.nz wrote:


On 27/07/15 09:19, Andrew wrote:

I love my Acer Aspire One, but it's time for a new one. What are
people buying for small-form-factor netbook equivalents these
days?


13 seems to be about all there is in any reasonable spec.
I just bought a Dell XPS13 (came with Windows, I think they only ever 
sold the pre-installed Ubuntu in the US)(currently still with Windows 
on it, while it's going through the breaking-in period, so don't ask 
me about BIOS stuff yet)
However, the Librem 13 looks interesting - 
https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-13
In the same open vein is 
http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-x200/ a rebadged Thinkpad 
X200 from the UK.

-jim

TBH if all you're looking for is something with that amount of power, 
I'd be looking for an Android powered pad. Many have cases with built-in 
keyboards to aid use.


Of course, whether you can get all the stuff you're after is another 
matter, and now Cyanogen's gone all corporate, I can't comment on decent 
vanilla OS alternatives having not researched lately. But you will get 
GPS, accelerometers, cameras, etc as well!


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Re: [Linux-users] Linux-friendly laptop repair shop, , recommendations

2015-07-27 Thread steve

On 28/07/15 08:51, Hadley Rich wrote:

On 28/07/15 08:39, steve wrote:

and now Cyanogen's gone all corporate,


I'm guessing you're talking about Cyanogen OS, not the 
same-as-it-always-was Cyanogenmod.


hads
I need research to answer that correctly, but my understanding came from 
the context of my OnePlus One phone, and their fallout with Cyanogen.


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Re: [Linux-users] Linux-friendly laptop repair shop, , recommendations

2015-07-27 Thread steve



On 28/07/15 11:46, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

On Tue 28 Jul 2015 11:30:20 NZST +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

[...]

And do you really want to rely on some android rubbish with included
world-wide remote control (and plenty of other goodies) that never ever
gets any fixes in a timely manner?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/950-million-android-phones-can-be-hijacked-by-malicious-text-messages/

Volker


See previous comments on Cyanogenmod...

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Re: [Linux-users] Linux-friendly laptop repair shop, , recommendations

2015-07-27 Thread steve

On 28/07/15 11:30, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

On Tue 28 Jul 2015 08:39:31 NZST +1200, steve wrote:


TBH if all you're looking for is something with that amount of
power, I'd be looking for an Android powered pad.

Ouch. Google is not the answer. Google is the question. The answer is no
thanks. I don't want the NSA or American corporates record every file I
open or page I flip. It's offensive. Unfortunately android doesn't work
without google, and it's not much to do with Linux any more either which
in my view severely limits its use. I can't run my apps, and I can't
help it but I tend to feel messed around by android apps and that play
stuff.
No, you just use a machine with SELinux installed? Now who wrote that 
again... oh yes, the NSA.


Cyanogen should be good, but so far I'm having prohibitive trouble
finding a piece of hardware I want to buy that CM actually runs on.

I've managed to.


Perhaps you'd be better off to buy a doze tablet and nuke the doze? Two
problems though - even the guys in Redmond decided their OS was too
dozy, and you'd still have to find a Linux to put on too. (Same with any
other cheap ARM systems other than the RPi - yes of course it runs
Linux, but some debianuntu adapted by an Asian guy to their hardware 3
years ago, with partially published source and not touched or maintained
since, does not meet my definition of Linux. Certainly not usable
Linux.)


Of course, whether you can get all the stuff you're after is another
matter, and now Cyanogen's gone all corporate, I can't comment on
decent vanilla OS alternatives having not researched lately. But you
will get GPS, accelerometers, cameras, etc as well!

I have those in my phone. Or are you going to take phone calls holding
your 13 tablet to your ear? Photo please ;-)

Volker



Personally I don't tend to need GPS, Accelerometers or a camera whilst 
taking phone calls... the lack of ability to do so does tend to be the 
difference between a phone and a pad.


I put this forward as a viable alternative for a lightweight workable 
alternative to the One ( I have one in the cupboard if anyone's after a 
lightly used one ), which is a relic of a different era.


I do not see it as a reason for a rant... we all know that Google is the 
enemy, so keep him closer still, as Sun-tzu suggested.



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Re: [Linux-users] Linux-friendly laptop repair shop, recommendations

2015-07-25 Thread Steve Holdoway

On 26/07/15 16:10, criggie wrote:

On 26/07/15 12:00, linux-users-requ...@lists.canterbury.ac.nz wrote:

I read that comment and thought Is it an acer? I bet its an acer
I've got a couple of acers.  I have never spent any money to buy them, 
and having seen the construction I never will.


One was a travelmate, their upper-range business class model with an 
all day battery.


It worked well enough, but sometimes just misbehaved, crashing or 
freezing or rebooting.  The owner was positive it had an anger sensor, 
cos the madder it made him the more it acted up.


I thought pssht whatever but it turns out he was right - the mouse 
button microswitches were soldered directly to the mainboard not a 
daughterboard on the case.  So whenever he got a bit angry he pressed 
the mouse buttons harder, which flexed the board resulting in general 
non-specific funkiness.


I told the owner the cause, and admitted that he was kinda right. Has 
not let me forget it to this day



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Also avoid pushing laptop back when its plugged in, same reasoning.

The fixes are
1) Get a dock and use it - only generally fits one model/brand of laptop.
2) Don't put the laptop in a bag with the PSU cable attached.
3) Use laptops with sideways plugs on the PSU, or magsafe style 
connectors.





TBH I've used Acers for decades... I'm typing on one as we speak.

The number that have failed in this way is zero. In fact failing battery 
life plus the ever increasing need for more power is what has has caused 
me to supersede them.


I do have my backup 15 year old Tosh that's working fine though!

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Re: [Linux-users] zoneminder failed install terminal output

2015-06-27 Thread Steve Holdoway



On 28/06/15 08:07, Nick Rout wrote:


That doesn't even seem to show what command you entered to generate 
the output.




apt-get install zoneminder I expect...
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Re: [Linux-users] zoneminder failed install terminal output

2015-06-27 Thread steve
The apache error is no big deal, especially for a private server. I 
manage some in production that are set up like that... well they won't 
pay me to fix it lol ( more important for mail ).


Doesn't that mysql message state it's failing to access using a named 
socket, not a TCP port? Maybe check what socket mysqld is listening on, 
and that you have permission to access it ( and that it's running ).


$ sudo ps -ef | grep my
root  2057 1  0 May30 ?00:00:00 /bin/sh 
/usr/bin/mysqld_safe --datadir=/var/lib/mysql 
--pid-file=/var/lib/mysql/steve-new.pid
mysql 2671  2057  0 May30 ?00:17:33 /usr/sbin/mysqld 
--basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql 
--plugin-dir=/usr/lib64/mysql/plugin --user=mysql 
--log-error=/var/log/mysqld.log --open-files-limit=2048 
--pid-file=/var/lib/mysql/steve-new.pid 
--socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock --port=3306


[and check that's what it's really listening on]

$ sudo lsof -p 2671| grep unix
mysqld  2671 mysql   18u  unix 0x8802289fa480   0t0   12326 
/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock


If it's different to the zoneminder configuration, than that needs updating.

hth,

Steve


On 28/06/15 16:52, keit...@e3.net.nz wrote:
From the install log although the apache message is said to be a 
friendly reminder not an error relating
to the machines private address 127.0.1.1 Zoneminder may be having 
issues trying to connect to the

remote mysql server using host=localhost most likely 127.0.0.1.

Some tips to configure the FQDN Servername  -
http://askubuntu.com/questions/256013/could-not-reliably-determine-the-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name


On 27/06/15 19:14, Peter Simmonds wrote:
Hi All, just regarding my previous question, the terminal output is 
attached to this email.
 * Restarting web server apache2AH00558: apache2: Could not 
reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 
127.0.1.1.

 Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[ OK ]
 Setting up php5 (5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.9) ...
 Setting up zoneminder (1.28.1-trusty-1) ...
 mysql not found, assuming remote server.
 DBI connect('database=zm;host=localhost','zmuser',...) failed: 
Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)

 at /usr/share/perl5/ZoneMinder/Config.pm line 91.





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Re: [Linux-users] calling networking experts...

2015-06-08 Thread steve
It's a CentOS 6 install, so bind 9.8.2, currently using OpenDNS 
forwarders, and a backup google one ( this has varied a *lot* ). I have 
changed to ( from commented out )


dnssec-enable no;
dnssec-validation no;
#dnssec-enable yes;
#dnssec-validation yes;
#dnssec-lookaside auto;

I have hundreds of pages of logs like

Jun  7 03:36:54 localhost named[27394]: error (no valid RRSIG) resolving 
'v0cdn.net/DS/IN': 208.67.220.220#53
Jun  7 03:36:54 localhost named[27394]:   validating @0x7f805c025e40: 
dlv.isc.org SOA: got insecure response; parent indicates it should be secure
Jun  7 03:36:55 localhost named[27394]:   validating @0x7f80644fc9f0: 
dlv.isc.org SOA: got insecure response; parent indicates it should be secure



Through the wonders of sed and awk, here's the worst ones ( count -  
100 - first ) from the last 2 days:


103 nz.dlv.isc.org
104 facebook.com.dlv.isc.org
104 www.google.com.dlv.isc.org
105 google.co.nz.dlv.isc.org
105 openweathermap.org.dlv.isc.org
107 wunderground.com.dlv.isc.org
115 akamai.net
122 amazon.com
124 google.co.nz
126 skype.com
127 googleapis.com
129 accuweather.com
129 plexapp.com
133 none
134 yourpbx.com
135 crashlytics.com
142 google.com.dlv.isc.org
143 amazonaws.com.dlv.isc.org
145 net.dlv.isc.org
147 apptimize.com
148 akadns.net.dlv.isc.org
158 a-msedge.net
163 com.dlv.isc.org
177 msn.com
189 mixpanel.com
190 yahoo.com
202 aprs.net
204 akamaiedge.net
232 facebook.com
254 openweathermap.org
280 wunderground.com
324 amazonaws.com
347 google.com


Cheers,


Steve






On 09/06/15 11:59, Fraser McGlinn wrote:
In my experience I haven’t had any issues having DNSSEC Validation on. 
Minus the odd bogus signed zone (both publicly and privately). Back 
when I was working with Craig we enabled it on the TotalTeam ISP DNS 
servers without any impact. Also i’ve been running validation on my 
internal recursive DNS servers running Bind 9.9 for a long time.


Without further information inclination would be that it ‘might' be a 
broken DNSSEC implementation on the DNS server. Any further info on 
what domains are not validating correctly or what DNS server and 
version you are running?


Fraser

On 9 Jun 2015, at 7:18 am, steve st...@greengecko.co.nz 
mailto:st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:


There's a few notes below, but I think that removing DNSSEC 
requirements from the DNS server might have sorted it.


Does that make sense? It was causing a metric shedload of error messages.


Steve

On 08/06/15 09:09, C. Falconer wrote:

steve wrote on 06/06/15 17:00:
Am nearing wits end... been away on hols for a month and my network 
performance has plummeted.


The best way of describing the problem is that you need to refresh 
a web page before you get any content. In addition, bulk loading 
across a VPN ( eg scp ) fails regularly.


Basic design of network: 'firewall' server runs fail2ban and links 
upstream ADSL to local wireless and wired subnets. It also provides 
DNS ( caching server ), DHCP, OpenVPN etc services.


I initially thought it was a DNS problem, and have migrated from 
the local ( Voda ) DNS servers to OpenDNS, having briefly tried 
Googles resolvers on the way. No improvement.


Any thoughts on what I can try to identify the real problem? My 
thought is that the GCSB are involved somewhere along the line, but 
as a SysAdm I am paid to be paranoid!



OK - honestly I have no idea but I agree with Fraser in that 
random weird stuff does often have root causes in DNS or MTU.  But 
you've appeared to rule them out.



So, cut the problem up.
1) Does the link test as slow when from the firewall box, as opposed 
to a client machine?
If no then its a local network thing - isolate between wired 
and wireless clients

If yes, then its an internet link.
OK, I'm testing this as we speak as I don't have a GUI and want to 
test like for like. Download speeds are not a problem generally, I 
usually manage to crank over 1MB/s from anywhere not wirelessly 
connected.


Interestingly, if I try to start up firefox via ssh -X to the 
'firewall', it starts a new session up on the local workstation if ff 
is running on that, and vv.


2) How's the neighbour's speeds?  Do they have Chorus ADSL?
No idea really. We generally get good service over here, probably due 
to the odd MP living locally (:


3) Have you got any other ADSL routers to swap out?  Its not unknown 
for the hardware to just start dying from rubbish on the wire, 
specially if its not completely urban.
The venerable 12 year old speedtouch doesn't seem to make any 
appreciable difference.


4) Have you spoken with your ISP about getting line tests done?  
They can do a 2 or 24 hour line test and monitor the stats from your 
DSL link, which should give some indication of the DSL's 
performance.  You can continue to use it like normal for the test 
period too

[Linux-users] calling networking experts...

2015-06-05 Thread steve

Hi folks,

Am nearing wits end... been away on hols for a month and my network 
performance has plummeted.


The best way of describing the problem is that you need to refresh a web 
page before you get any content. In addition, bulk loading across a VPN 
( eg scp ) fails regularly.


Basic design of network: 'firewall' server runs fail2ban and links 
upstream ADSL to local wireless and wired subnets. It also provides DNS 
( caching server ), DHCP, OpenVPN etc services.


I initially thought it was a DNS problem, and have migrated from the 
local ( Voda ) DNS servers to OpenDNS, having briefly tried Googles 
resolvers on the way. No improvement.


Any thoughts on what I can try to identify the real problem? My thought 
is that the GCSB are involved somewhere along the line, but as a SysAdm 
I am paid to be paranoid!


Cheers,

Steve

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Re: [Linux-users] Spark SMTP port

2015-05-18 Thread Steve Holdoway



On 18/05/15 09:38, Rik Tindall wrote:

On 2015-05-18 00:18, Wayne Rooney wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2015 13:05:38 Rik Tindall wrote:


I am sure many of you have had to deal with Spark's port 25 block, a
spam security measure that they implemented late last year. The problem
is how to send email from a different host's email account, using email
client software, while connected to Spark network.


This worked for me.


http://www.spark.co.nz/help/internet-email/manage-email/verifying-third-party- 


email-addresses-in-yahoo-mail/

Wayne


Thank you Wayne. This link explains the situation well.

As a Snap customer I am less familiar with the Spark setup. Thanks 
everyone for the comments provided.


N.B. the solution is for a domestic-style office network, that is 
shared by two non-profit organisations, with plain desktop or laptop 
use - no email servers or specialised computers their end, 
connectivity by Spark.


One user wishes to use their laptop email system, served by Vodaphone 
at home, at work. Wayne's link shows how this situation can be 
resolved, where POP works but SMTP (port 25) doesn't. I may try some 
alternate ports, but the user will probably switch to Gmail for 
simplicity's sake, and the merging of the email accounts - that the 
link suggests - is better avoided (unless the same user owned them both).


Linux connection - it is part of the platform from which I write here, 
and has brought together a community that practically always knows the 
advanced technical answers. Thank you for entertaining this off-topic 
question.


Regards
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will just drop SMTP traffic direct from a consumer IP address no matter 
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Re: [Linux-users] Apache PHP frustration

2015-05-10 Thread Steve Holdoway



On 10/05/15 09:05, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

On Sat 09 May 2015 21:44:59 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:


cd /etc/httpd/extramodules
sudo ln -s mod_php5.so.5 mod_php5.so

Oh crikey, someone decided to manage shared libraries used by apache
modules in /etc? And then by the looks of it doesn't manage to provide
all the symlinks int he packaging system...
How did you find that one, Steve?

Volker


Err I read the post.
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Re: [Linux-users] Apache PHP frustration

2015-05-09 Thread Steve Holdoway

cd /etc/httpd/extramodules
sudo ln -s mod_php5.so.5 mod_php5.so

and restart

On 08/05/15 22:04, Barry wrote:

Hi Andrew,

That is the complete body of my test php file.

Tonight when I run  'systemctl status httpd.service' it fails with the 
following error msg...


May 08 20:33:40 TheBox httpd[4312]: Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax 
error on line 305 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 
2 of /etc/httpd/modules.d/70_mod_php.conf: Cannot load 
/etc/httpd/extramodules/mod_php5.so into server: libphp5_common.so.5: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


mod_php.so.5  is in/etc/httpd/extramodules/  
in/usr/lib/apache-extramodules/

libphp5_common.so.5 is in /usr/lib/
libphp5.so is in /usr/lib

Looks like errors in httpd.conf,  inmodules.d/70_mod_php.conf  but my 
head is screwed for tonight!


Thanks

Barry
---
On 08/05/15 01:08, Andrew Sands wrote:

Barry,

Is that the complete code because after checking on a VM here with 
apache installed (Ok, so it's Debian), I have a file called 
'index.php' which contains only the line '?php phpinfo(); ?'


I did a quick Google search [0] and found the following, which I put 
in a file called hello.php

html
  head
   titlePHP Test/title
  /head
  body
  ?php echo 'pHello World/p'; ?
  /body
/html

For reviewing dot conf files on the command line, you could always 
try ' egrep -v '^(#|$)' filename' [1]


regards,

Andrew

[0] Google search: simple first php program - First hit is: 
http://php.net/manual/en/tutorial.firstpage.php

[1] Google search: ignore commented lines in conf file linux
I went with: 
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-can-i-cat-or-grep-a-file-to-ignore-lines-starting-with-654683/




On 07/05/15 23:48, Barry wrote:

Thanks Chris  for your reply


What distro?
Mageia2 32 bit running on a 64 bit box. Its old but mageia 4 64 bit 
pkg is corrupt and insists on loading 32 bit libraries. I have the 2 
versions bootable


Apache2.2.25
PHP5.3.27


Change your ?phpinfo ? to be:

?php

phpinfo();

?

This is my code..
---
body
h1Apache works!/h1
?php
PHP works!; BR
phpinfo();
?
/body

This when 1st loaded gives.(copied from screen)

Apache works!
 phpinfo(); ?
---
If I refresh the screen opera wants to download the file. I think 
there is either a missing pkg or a missing line in the .conf files, 
but which


Barry
 

If that dunnae work, some more detail on distro etc and I'm sure we 
can get you working quickly.


Cheers, Chris H.

On 07/05/15 20:54, Barry wrote:

Hi all,
After trying for abt 3 weeks to get php running I am just about 
tearing what little hair I have left out. I can not get php coding 
recognized in a .php file. Steps taken so far..


Set up '127.0.0.1localhost' in /etc/hosts.allow
Amended http.conf to recognise files with .php suffix
Scanned http.conf and php.conf.
Searched the web for help.

Apache now recognizes both/either 127.0.0.1 and localhost in the 
address bar,

also file.html and file.php.

With an entry like ?phpinfo ?, the ?php is dropped, the rest of 
the line being recognised as text.


Both http.conf and php.conf have so much in the way of explanatory 
comments in them that the active lines in each of them are well 
separated and can not be read together in a group.




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[Linux-users] what's 4k support like?

2015-04-15 Thread Steve Holdoway
Is there anyone out there who works more on the visual side of linux
than me who can give a quick update on the state of 4k video support???

I'd be most grateful.

Cheers,


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Re: [Linux-users] what's 4k support like?

2015-04-15 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2015-04-16 at 14:26 +1200, Kent Fredric wrote:
 
 
 On 16 April 2015 at 14:18, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz
 wrote:
 Is there anyone out there who works more on the visual side of
 linux
 than me who can give a quick update on the state of 4k video
 support???
 
 
 
 Forgive my ignorance, but I wasn't aware special tricks were needed
 for higher display resolutions outside just having appreciable
 hardware and having drivers to support that hardware.
 
 
 I've successfully used xrandr to give X11 panscan screens well in
 excess of 4K for purposes such as doing screenshots of Ingress maps
 (essentially google maps) to get higher resoultion images.
 
 
 So at least the display sizes should work out of the box.
 
 
 -- 
 Kent 
 
It's my understanding that Display Port or the absolute latest HDMI
connectivity.

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Re: [Linux-users] IBM x3400 Server Centos 7

2015-04-13 Thread Steve Holdoway



On 13/04/15 21:23, Peter Simmonds wrote:

Hi All,

Thanks to the good people who have advised on the first post. This 
advice has been great on getting my mindset out of redmond and into 
the reality of linux logic.


Firstly the Webshop software I was looking to run was Prestashop, 
which I was glad to see, runs on linux. I have been ordering various 
things from Steam Age ecigarettesand found this to be a great system 
from a customer's point of view. However I was also advised that it is 
not a good idea to run a webshop with a CCTV system. However, I would 
believe that both applications require a maximum of security, as CCTV 
cameras around a property could also be used very maliciously 
(Especially if installed inside, which is great from a law enforcement 
point of view).
It depends whether you publish the CCTV stuff, our your prestashop ( 
which really isn't my favourite eCommerce software ) on the net. Even 
so, you can keep them completely separate and perfectly secure.


Regarding the hardware I currently have a conexiant 4 ch bt878 card 
and a chinese thing with 4 philips DAC's which I was going to try just 
to try for interest (It came with incomplete windows drivers and some 
rather useless windows software which was all it would work with). 
Once zoneminder is set up and running, I found some nice 4-ch PCI-x 
cards on ebay, but unfortunately forget the name. with the existing 
HW, the conexiant had only had 1 encoder chip, so the maximum 
framerate was divided by 4 plus the overhead of the time taken to 
switch inputs (Which is why I would intend to upgrade later). Reason 
for not going for PCIE cards was that there are relatively few PCI-X 
cards useful for a home environment.

Bt878 is pretty common, so you should have no problem with that.


The reason to use zoneminder was the usability of such a system. From 
a CCTV point of view, having the thumbnails of things that have 
happened are much better than trawling through lots of consistent 
recordings. It's also possible to miss things in consistent 
recordings. Other thing I like is the ability to define regions for 
motion detection so that say if you have a camera over a footpath, you 
can decide to either monitor the footpath, your own property or both.


The model of the server is (I think) MT-M7975-B2M. RAID card: 
ATB-205/32MB. Hard disk appears to be hot swappable, and does say SAS 
on the label. The connector is similar to a SATA drive. However I have 
also seen drives labelled SAS with a D connector of some sort so a 
little puzzled. It would be great to have this firmware thanks. If it 
is not a completely mad idea, I would like to upgrade the RAID 
controller later.
SAS drives are so expensive, and I don't really think it would be cost 
effective... SSDs of a similar size and software RAID will out-perform 
it, and you could well want a few TB so straight SATA would be a better 
idea in my opinion.


Result from # dmidecode | grep Product Name was: IBM eServer x3400 - 
[7975B2M] - M97IP


Yes, I'll admit this was quite a deafening machine when I first heard 
it powered up, but once I installed Centos 7 the fans reduced to a 
noise level which were comfortable enough to work beside it. Yes I am 
in Christchurch thanks.


Pardon the sermon (Answering questions from the list and hopefully 
returning some useful info). I do have one question though:


1. Fresh install of Centos 7, and log in under the default user 
created with Ädminprivileges. Can't even save a text document on the 
desktop or home directory (does create folders though). It sounded 
like permissions, Is there something I can look up to learn why this 
has happened (Say SElinux?).

echo 0 /selinux/enforce

will temporarily disable to check further. IMO it's is terrible pile of 
junk, written by people who don't understand base permissions, and I get 
rid of it asap.


Thanks again very much for your support,

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Re: [Linux-users] Wanted - someone in or near Barrington, with UFB to their property?

2015-03-15 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 12:09 +1300, C. Falconer wrote:

  + http://www.neighbourly.co.nz
 
 No thanks - I'm still after a UFB connectable home-owner somewhere in
 Barrington.
 
 Personally I have my doubts about neighbourly - I trust them about as
 much as I trust facebook, which is zero.
 
 
Runs on Ubuntu. Nuff said. Can never understand why you would put any
distro other than the official amazon one on an Amazon VPS...

And it supports RC4 ciphers.

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Re: [Linux-users] Weird mounty magic vanishing files.

2015-02-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 13:58 +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
 Volker Kuhlmann wrote, On 25/02/15 00:05:
  On Tue 24 Feb 2015 20:51:38 NZDT +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
  But my TV drive is reporting imminent fail, so I'm going to deal to
  that.   Comments?
  Copying off asap is a wise move. But using NFS for that?!??
 Why not?
 It was one way to get the full 3TB visible while not powering off the
 existing server.
 I didn't want to power down the failing disks because they're still
 running, and might not come back.
 
 The point of my post  was about NFS and mounts lower down the tree not
 working as I expected.
 
 
  USB-SATA bridges and SATA chipsets may all have a max size for the disk 
  you can connect to them, probably especially the USB stuff. For
  this kind of exercise (copying 3TB around) USB doesn't cut the mustard (too 
  slow, too much trouble) and a direct SATA connection is desirable.
  Don't you have any computer with a spare SATA slot that can handle 3TB? You 
  don't even have to power that computer down, just connect SATA data
  cable and power the disk somehow. If the SATA chipset is properly supported 
  under Linux a hotplug event will make the disk available soon
  after. I've done it several times. (No, do not hotplug other stuff on the 
  mobo, like plug-in cards...)
 
  rsync is the way to go for copying (though it may truncate time stamps to 
  full seconds), but more like over TCP or ssh, not NFS?!??
 
 I had SATA drive in one machine, NFS over gig ethernet to another
 machine, and SATA to the disk.
 Worked well enough and was done by morning.
 There is no USB used (because it didn't show the full space, which lead
 to using a second machine)
 
 
 I could have used rsync over ssh, no reason to choose one over the other.
 
 I'll synch the other drive using rsync over ssh to see if there's any
 noticeable difference.
 
Not too sure why Volker is maligning NFS - it's pretty good at what it
does that's for sure.

There's no need to use rsync over ssh - just use rsync. As this is
primarily multimedia data it ain't gonna compress is it?

Just use the format u...@remote.host::/remote/dir rather than a single
colon.

Steve


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Re: [Linux-users] Highish end VPS providers in Christchurch???

2015-02-12 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 21:17 +1300, Chris Hellyar wrote:
 Hurro..
 
 That's interesting that you've had issues with Rackspace, although most 
 of what I do with them is high-end colo, not cloud.  I've only got four 
 mid-sized virtual boxes of my own and a dozen or so others I look 
 after.  The cloud stuff is pretty simple configs so not had much need 
 for their support.
.. as long as you do everything according to their songbook, which like
everyone elses is well out of date for current best practices,
especially security. Deviate and you're stuffed, with response times
measured in days.
 
 OK on the sovereignty, you can't argue with that in some cases. I've 
 been asked by one of my clients to bring their application 'home' so to 
 speak and I'm going to be up for some pain if they become serious about 
 that as it uses cloudfront and RDS with AWS in Sydney...  I'm hoping 
 they'll forget they asked but I don't fancy my chances and I've made 
 extensive use of the RDS API in some shell scripts and PHP.  Could be 
 some sleepless nights replacing that with another ORM.  Joy.
I've found RDS to be a mediocre performing service, and it's more
cost-effective to run your own locally: you can actually tune it, and no
TCP stack overhead either. Databases rarely hit the CPU hard once the
caches are filled ( I'm talking web based apps here ) so they happily
coexist with other things as long as you've got a shedload ( metric or
imperial ) of memory. 

I've seen loads of talk elsewhere about cloudflare now having a presence
in NZ, by people that actually think it's a good service. What a grumpy
old bastard I sound!
 
 With the scale of box you need I'd be interested to know where you wind 
 up going, although I can't really recommend anyone from direct 
 experience locally at that scale.  Per my suggestions and the others 
 you'll have to let your fingers do the walking
That I am doing. Will report back on useful findings.
 
 Freelance sysadmin, that sounds good..  My title is a bit harder to tie 
 down that that, at times I wonder exactly what the heck it is I'm meant 
 to be doing lately to be honest...  Long story, tangled web we weave 
 etc.  :-)
Well yes. DBA, developer, designer, technical architect, etc. What do
the kids call it these days... DevOps??? LOL.
 
 Cheers, Chris H.
 
Cheers,

Steve
 On 12/02/15 18:16, Steve Holdoway wrote:
  Hi Chris,
 
  After a South Island DC, but it does have to stay within NZ for legal
  reasons.
 
  When I said high end, I meant something more than the standard 1GB
  offerings: Need 1TB storage, 32GB mem, decent spec quad (v)CPU and
  30GB/day of domestic traffic ( that sounds really high to me, given the
  application but that's what the net interface tells me ) to add a node
  to an existing cluster that is both geographically anc corporately (?)
  separate from the existing ones. We're after 2 internet facing, one
  backup and a spare node in the office ( fibre ) as the ultimate
  solution, but 3 of these nodes are currently in the same DC run by the
  same company.
 
  I also look after Amazon and (recommend where geographically valid)
  linode, and have had the misfortune to have to use Rackspace in the
  past... fanatical support my a*se. I also find Digital Pacific to be a
  decent company to use for dedicated stuff as well, and ServerMule to be
  an alternative cost-effective local provider.
 
  Just a happy user, no kickbacks here (: It's a difficult market to keep
  ahead of, and these are my current favourites.
 
  We should set up a freelance SysAdmin group (:
 
 
  Steve
 
 
  On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 17:01 +1300, Chris Hellyar wrote:
  Do you mean with a datacentre in CHCH, or just a phone number?
 

 
  CCL infrastructure as a service and compared to off-shore offerings
  would probably be at the highish end price wise.
 

 
  Other than that I don't know of any actually in CHCH that I'd consider
  high end.  Maybe Snap?
 

 
  If you just need a local phone number Amazon and Rackspace both lave
  local numbers (0800's) and there are some MSP's doing value-add on top
  of Amazon who are local-ish with good in-house resources, although not
  in CHCH, Wellington and AKL.  Fronde do have a local guy though, but
  my impression is that he's not technical and calls the head office for
  tech. issues.
 

 
  Any particular reason you need it to be in CHCH?  You're not going to
  be able to go hug-a-server anyway :-)
 

 
  As long a the bandwidth / service levels are suitable offshore is
  quite often the most economic path, although if you have data
  sovereignty or IP location issues that's not an option...
 

 
  FYI: I look after stuff at linode, rackspace and AWS along with a
  customer who uses CCL, and they all have their good points and
  not-so-good ones.  CCL is not a patch on the other three for maturity
  of service offering and flexibility but that customer has sovereignty
  issues which make off-sure not an option

Re: [Linux-users] Highish end VPS providers in Christchurch???

2015-02-11 Thread Steve Holdoway
Hi Brett,

I remember the Digiweb debacle of a few years ago, and don't want to go
through that again... Unleash is a possibility, but last time I talked
to them they said they'd gone out of the VPS market ( please contact me
if I'm wrong Unleash! ), and Voyager only do tiddlers: I'd have to build
a dedicated cluster and that wouldn't be cost effective I don't think.

Cheers,

Steve

On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 17:17 +1300, Brett Davidson wrote:
 Further to Chris' comments...
 
 Digiweb/Webdrive, Unleash and Voyager/Net24 all do VM and VPS options.
 You talking Vmware or a VPS like OpenVZ/Virtuozzo?
 
 I'd put Digiweb and Voyager above Unleash in support but also depends
 who you are currently with and what is required.
 
 
 
 
 
 On 12/02/2015 5:01 p.m., Chris Hellyar wrote:
 
  Do you mean with a datacentre in CHCH, or just a phone number?
  
   
  
  CCL infrastructure as a service and compared to off-shore offerings
  would probably be at the highish end price wise.
  
   
  
  Other than that I don't know of any actually in CHCH that I'd
  consider high end.  Maybe Snap?
  
   
  
  If you just need a local phone number Amazon and Rackspace both lave
  local numbers (0800's) and there are some MSP's doing value-add on
  top of Amazon who are local-ish with good in-house resources,
  although not in CHCH, Wellington and AKL.  Fronde do have a local
  guy though, but my impression is that he's not technical and calls
  the head office for tech. issues.
  
   
  
  Any particular reason you need it to be in CHCH?  You're not going
  to be able to go hug-a-server anyway :-)
  
   
  
  As long a the bandwidth / service levels are suitable offshore is
  quite often the most economic path, although if you have data
  sovereignty or IP location issues that's not an option...
  
   
  
  FYI: I look after stuff at linode, rackspace and AWS along with a
  customer who uses CCL, and they all have their good points and
  not-so-good ones.  CCL is not a patch on the other three for
  maturity of service offering and flexibility but that customer has
  sovereignty issues which make off-sure not an option.
  
   
  
  Cheers, Chris H.
  
   
  
   
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz
  Sent: Thursday, 12 February, 2015 16:16
  To: Canterbury Linux Users Group
  linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz
  Subject: [Linux-users] Highish end VPS providers in Christchurch???
  
  
  
  Hi folks,
  
  Can anyone recommend providers of such a service? I'm looking to add
  a
  new node to an existing HA solution to move away from the single
  provider setup that I've inherited ( and which belched rather loudly
  a
  week or so ago, disconnecting services for half an hour or so ).
  
  Apologies if off topic - it will of course be running linux (:
  
  Cheers,
  
  
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Re: [Linux-users] Highish end VPS providers in Christchurch???

2015-02-11 Thread Steve Holdoway
Hi Chris,

After a South Island DC, but it does have to stay within NZ for legal
reasons.

When I said high end, I meant something more than the standard 1GB
offerings: Need 1TB storage, 32GB mem, decent spec quad (v)CPU and
30GB/day of domestic traffic ( that sounds really high to me, given the
application but that's what the net interface tells me ) to add a node
to an existing cluster that is both geographically anc corporately (?)
separate from the existing ones. We're after 2 internet facing, one
backup and a spare node in the office ( fibre ) as the ultimate
solution, but 3 of these nodes are currently in the same DC run by the
same company.

I also look after Amazon and (recommend where geographically valid)
linode, and have had the misfortune to have to use Rackspace in the
past... fanatical support my a*se. I also find Digital Pacific to be a
decent company to use for dedicated stuff as well, and ServerMule to be
an alternative cost-effective local provider.

Just a happy user, no kickbacks here (: It's a difficult market to keep
ahead of, and these are my current favourites.

We should set up a freelance SysAdmin group (:


Steve


On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 17:01 +1300, Chris Hellyar wrote:
 Do you mean with a datacentre in CHCH, or just a phone number?
 
  
 
 CCL infrastructure as a service and compared to off-shore offerings
 would probably be at the highish end price wise.
 
  
 
 Other than that I don't know of any actually in CHCH that I'd consider
 high end.  Maybe Snap?
 
  
 
 If you just need a local phone number Amazon and Rackspace both lave
 local numbers (0800's) and there are some MSP's doing value-add on top
 of Amazon who are local-ish with good in-house resources, although not
 in CHCH, Wellington and AKL.  Fronde do have a local guy though, but
 my impression is that he's not technical and calls the head office for
 tech. issues.
 
  
 
 Any particular reason you need it to be in CHCH?  You're not going to
 be able to go hug-a-server anyway :-)
 
  
 
 As long a the bandwidth / service levels are suitable offshore is
 quite often the most economic path, although if you have data
 sovereignty or IP location issues that's not an option...
 
  
 
 FYI: I look after stuff at linode, rackspace and AWS along with a
 customer who uses CCL, and they all have their good points and
 not-so-good ones.  CCL is not a patch on the other three for maturity
 of service offering and flexibility but that customer has sovereignty
 issues which make off-sure not an option.
 
  
 
 Cheers, Chris H.
 
  
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz
 Sent: Thursday, 12 February, 2015 16:16
 To: Canterbury Linux Users Group
 linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: [Linux-users] Highish end VPS providers in Christchurch???
 
 
 
 Hi folks,
 
 Can anyone recommend providers of such a service? I'm looking to add a
 new node to an existing HA solution to move away from the single
 provider setup that I've inherited ( and which belched rather loudly a
 week or so ago, disconnecting services for half an hour or so ).
 
 Apologies if off topic - it will of course be running linux (:
 
 Cheers,
 
 
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Re: [Linux-users] On df -i

2014-11-03 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 09:00 +1300, Roy Britten wrote:
 What I learned yesterday: it's possible to run out of inode space
 before you run out of disk space. In my case, in a system with lots of
 old versions in /usr/src it eventually became impossible to create
 files, even with plenty of disk space available.
 
 df -h showed adequate available space
 df -i showed IFree of (almost) 0


This is more likely on backup partitions using software that creates
regular snapshots whilst using hard links to save space for unchanged
files. From what I remember, they're set in stone too... reformat to
change.

However, you do have to go some even then as the defaults are still from
the days where 1MB was a huge file. Maybe ext4 and other modern formats
have changed this - I haven't looked into it lately. 

I do recommend monitoring - cacti, munin or similar - for aything
important though. They'll warn you of these things.

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[Linux-users] anyone on Voda ADSL?

2014-09-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
I'm having massive delays with web based traffic today. I use voda adsl
services.

As an example, a wget of the homepahe of a reference site in Sydney took
over 40 seconds. However, a repeat attempt then took under half a
second.

Is it just me?

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Re: [Linux-users] anyone on Voda ADSL?

2014-09-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 12:41 +1300, Roy Britten wrote:
 On 30 September 2014 12:13, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
  I'm having massive delays with web based traffic today. I use voda adsl
  services.
 
  As an example, a wget of the homepahe of a reference site in Sydney took
  over 40 seconds. However, a repeat attempt then took under half a
  second.
 
  Is it just me?
 
 Does http://www.speedtest.net/ shine any light?

Might do if I could get on it. The problem is *only* http traffic
afaict. https is no problem, not is ssh... 

next step is to route via a VPN and see if that helps


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Re: [Linux-users] anyone on Voda ADSL?

2014-09-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 12:49 +1300, Hadley Rich wrote:
 On 30/09/14 12:46, Steve Holdoway wrote:
  Might do if I could get on it. The problem is*only*  http traffic
  afaict. https is no problem, not is ssh...
 
 Telecom have some sort of proxy that plays up some times, perhaps 
 Vodafone too. Try a VPN as you suggested or ssh -D  somehost and set 
 up your browser to use localhost:333 SOCKS to see if that fixes it.
 
 hads

routing all traffic via a VPN has sorted it all out. Maybe I should
leave it like that. The GCSB will have to work a bit harder.

Mind you, it's routing via the US, so I've probably swapped evils!

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Re: [Linux-users] anyone on Voda ADSL?

2014-09-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 15:59 +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
 
 On 30 September 2014 15:44, Volker Kuhlmann list0...@paradise.net.nz
 wrote:
 
  In my case it taking ages to lookup sites like google
 analytics before
  loading the wanted page.  I'm with Vodafone.
 
 Are you seriously saying you haven't fixed your home LAN and
 browser yet
 to redirect all that goolytics rubbish to /dev/null?!?? That
 stuff
 exists for the sole purpose of wasting your time and bandwidth
 and
 stealing your privacy, all for the purpose of someone else's
 financial
 gain.
 
 
 That's yet another reason why not to use GA. 
 
 
 Was working for $company and they had GA in the header and I was
 wondering why I was getting blank pages and random render timeouts.
 
 
 Even moving the GA rubbish to the end of the page didn't help much
 because something horrible in the stack we were using meant google
 failing anywhere in the page broke javascript sitewide somehow( It
 might have been due to the GA glue using document.write() , but it was
 an aeon ago now and I don't recall )
 
 
 Death to GA.

Well, seeing at my thread's completely off-topic ( and I'm having to use
voda's broken services again as mail, etc doesn't work otherwise and
I've not got around to just routing web traffic ) I'll carry on...

Just load GA up asynchronously, like you're supposed to - they provide
all the snippets you need, and most CMSes support it directly. As a
commercial pose, dumping GA is suicidal for obvious reasons ( like
looking closely at delivering via SPDY, using pagespeed are also good
ideas for them ). 

Plus the customers want the pretty graphs too, and more especially want
a third party to provide stats on how well your changes have improved
site usage, etc rather than believing a party with a vested interest...

Whether you choose to absent yourself personally is another topic
altogether.

I find it really sad that apparently there aren't any problems with
voda's service at all, according to them.

Back to the helldesk...


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Re: [Linux-users] whois for new TLDs

2014-09-28 Thread Steve Holdoway
linuxsysadmin.guru (:

On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 01:59 +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
 On 28 September 2014 21:05, Roy Britten roy.brit...@gmail.com wrote:
 So it seems that the whois client on my 'buntu box doesn't
 understand
 the new TLDs: *.zone, *.rocks, etc. Options for performing a
 whois
 include:
 - using sites like https://gwhois.org/
 - whois -h whois.nic.tld example.tld
 - manually updating whois.conf on a regular basis
 
 These all strike me as being error-prone and, worse,
 inelegant.
 
 
 
 Do you have any example sites that should return valid results for me
 to throw at tools?
 
 
 /me doesn't know any newtld sites by memory and I've never pointed a
 tool at them as a result.
 
 
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 KENTNL - https://metacpan.org/author/KENTNL
 
 
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Data loggers?

2014-09-28 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 16:51 +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
 Volker Kuhlmann wrote, On 26/09/14 18:01:
  On Fri 26 Sep 2014 10:19:58 NZST +1200, C. Falconer wrote:
 
  Has anyone used Hobo temperature and humidity data loggers?
 
  http://www.scottech.net/products/by_supplier/hobo/indoor_monitoring_/hobo_ux100_temp_rh_dataloggers/
 
  Supplier is in Hamilton, and they're a lot cheaper than weatherducks and a 
  lot more accurate than motherboard sensors.
  No I haven't used them and their server is down.
 
  Depends on what you want to do with them. If you want to monitor some
  workplace computers they're probably ok. For home I wouldn't touch
  anything that is wireless, and you have to decide how often you can be
  bothered to swap batteries. Check specs, if it doesn't tell you humidity
  accuracy properly it's a guesstimator only (which might still beat your
  motherboard?!??).
 
  Consider hacking up an arduino solution. For temperature that is totally
  trivial, using DS18B20 sesnors in TO92 case. For humidity much code
  exists for various sensors too, however most of thm are neither terribly
  accurate nor calibrated. If you don't care that's easy, if you do it's
  expensive. Excellent sensors are the SHT21 and similar from Sensirion,
  easy to use, but you pay for quality.
 
 
 
 Thanks for that - I have a couple of different probe things already.
 I asked specifically about the hobo ones.  Not sure if its general
 purpose, or if it needs a windows app to read.
 I have a sample one on its way.
 
 The Website works for me.
 
Just as an aside, depending on the price of those beasties, a Fine
Offset 1080 Weather station will do all of that. Can't remember how much
data is stored locally, but hooking it up to a database is no problem at
all. USB + Linux is fine.

You can easily get them for under $200.


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Re: [Linux-users] Bash Haiku...

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 21:01 +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote:

 Have you every had a server hand-grenades by cron-apt/yum-cron?I got 
 bitten a few years ago using a home-brew auto-apt update which installed a 
 breaking regression and have used a cron job that apt-get update  apt-get 
 -s upgrade  mailx instead now…  
 
 Cheers, Chris H.
 

Yes, I have. Percona ( my standard build throws larrys MySQL out in
preference to this ) is not very good with it's repo scripts... in fact
with the latest update I have to manually update the repo definition for
it to find the source at all for CentOS 6. They have a nasty habit of
not restarting the rdbms after update.

Monitoring software lets me know sharpish though!

Nothing worse than that, and for those who don't want higher levels of
maintenance this is ( my perception of ) the lowest risk for them.

Maybe I should revert to the standard distro version, but upping to
version 5.6 has so much going for it.

Steve

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Re: [Linux-users] shell shock, one more time..

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 10:01 +1200, Derek Smithies wrote:
 Chris,
   thankyou for stating what can be achieved with minimal effort..
 
 So - is my ADSL box exploitable - which has linux inside it?
 presumably not - my ADSL box refuses html and ssh login access from 
 the wild.

Won't your ADSL box be running busybox, not bash?

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Re: [Linux-users] shell shock, one more time..

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 11:53 +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote:
 On 26/09/14 11:22, Steve Holdoway wrote:
  so...  a2dismod cgi on your deb/ubuntu boxes with apache, and whatever
  the equiv. is on RH, can't think of it for the mo..  That will fix that
  vector.
 
  Or just upgrade to nginx...
 
 well, there is that...  :-)
 
 I was a bit resistant but I'm warming to it.  There is some definite 
 conversion pain for some apps/sites but for general hosting stuff it's 
 been good to me so far.  Touch wood.

Total convert here. Apart from anything else, you can analyse and tune
the web server and server side processing separately ( if PHP, then you
can properly use APC as well, which is even better ).

And, as a free bonus, the devs can fiddle with .htaccess to their hearts
delight, but it's not going to make any difference (:

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Re: [Linux-users] Bash Haiku...

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Holdoway
So bash is shellshocked
hey you apache users
get it patched right now

Unfortunately those devs who think they can make sites production ready
through dashboards like cPanel and Plesk ( not singling them out, just
using common ones as examples! ) can easily set stuff up with cgi
without knowing.

Hardcone nginx / fastcgi junkies on the command line shouldn't really be
affected. I just wrote a script to go round and update my clients as the
press had put the wind up a few of them.

TBH for the hands-off ones I install yum-cron / cron-apt so it would
have been fixed by tomorrow automagically anyway... 

Steve

On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 16:39 +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote:
 Thinking topical,
 It consumed most of the day
 as a precaution
 
 An exploit is found
 Bash, CGI scripting flaw
 new patches employed
 
 If you host on line
 your version of bash do check
 The repos refreshed
 
 
 Fin. :-)
 
 For those who have no idea what I'm on about:
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/24/bash_shell_vuln/
 
 There are some great headlines doing the rounds..  This one takes the 
 cake I think:
 
 http://www.wired.com/2014/09/internet-braces-crazy-shellshock-worm/
 
 (What worm?  Wired should know better!)
 
 http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/new-bash-bug-could-pose-bigger-threat-heartbleed-n211006
 
 http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/shell-shock-bash-bug-labelled-largest-ever-to-hit-the-internet-20140925-10ltx1.html
 
 Great stuff...
 
 Considering the major attack vector would be bash CGI scripts which 
 anyone with a brain stopped using about 10 years ago I'm picking someone 
 got a bit excited and then the other news media got hold of it.
 
 Anyway, Debian and RH have both updated their repos... Illuminos, 
 SmartOS and Solaris appear not to be caught up in it due to compile-time 
 options for bash, and no-one who's got any sense uses OS X to host 
 something on the public Internet anyway.  I think that covers 99% of the 
 *ix hosting these days?
 
 
 
 On 25/09/14 16:01, Chris Hellyar wrote:
  On servers remote
  in Datacenters, lights out.
  Debian Makes sense.
 
  On Desktops deployed
  Surfing the great unknown
  Ubuntu's at home.
 
  For uptime you care
  five nines the contract denotes
  roll out Solaris.
 
  The data is large
  complex structures, indexes worse
  informix knows best
 
  as tight as a drum
  in security it shines
  lock down, BSD
 
  Slow day.
 
 
 
 
  On 25/09/14 13:42, Derek Smithies wrote:
  Hi,
but it is so true
for all who just want to do
you go  ubuntu
 
  Derek.
  On 25/09/14 13:37, Douglas Royds wrote:
  Old duffers maintain
  that Debian is the source,
  the One True Distro
 
  On 24 September 2014 22:21, Chris Hellyar ch...@trash.co.nz wrote:
  Back to Debian
  for stability I crave
  farewell, Ubuntu.
 
  (made the shift with my last rebuild, happy camper now..)
 
 
  On 24/09/2014, at 9:55 pm, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:40 PM, David Lowe 
  da...@thistledown.co.nz wrote:
  On 24/09/2014 6:06 pm, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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Re: [Linux-users] port forwarding and nat...

2014-09-09 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 17:44 +1200, aaron mcewan wrote:
 On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:21:06 +1200
 Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
 
  I really never did get the hang of this... much like Mondays.
  
  I have a little linuxgateway box that delivers the usual
  DNS/DHCP/squid/squidguard etc services, and it also runs as a VoIP
  gateway.
  
  At the moment I have a SIP softphone running, and when away from home,
  I access the Asterisk server over a VPN... I've seen the volume of
  attempted hacks if you leave SIP on the internet!
  
  I would like to use an IAX2 extension instead, and access the exchange
  directly. To do this with a single configuration, I'd like to be able to
  redirect traffic that is sent to the (static) external IP address from
  an internal source.
  
  I'm sure that iptables can do this, but it's beyond me today. 
  
  Any suggestions??
  
  Cheers,
  
  Steve
 
 hi,
 something like this should do the trick:
 
 iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i external interface -p udp --dport 4596 -j 
 DNAT --to-destination dest ip:4596
 
 aaron m

Once I got the idea that this would be the only traffic directed to the
external IP address, it got a bit simpler:

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --destination externip --dport
4569 -j DNAT --to-destination internipofgateway:4569

Seems to be working a treat.

Cheers,

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Re: [Linux-users] Vodafone cable modem fault - thoughts

2014-06-14 Thread Steve Holdoway
OK, cynical paranoid sysadmin's hat on. 

I'm on voda ADSL here, and experience random, unexplained delays to
various sites. My gut feeling is that it's the GCSB's monitoring
software getting in the way. It was a great service 6 months ago, and
now it's not.

When you're sat on the target server, waiting for a request to come in
and it's unexpectedly delayed for up to 30 seconds, I certainly look
towards the service provider's kit.

Even the possibility of this makes me nervous about upgrading to a new
plan that locks you in for 2 years - no matter how much it's going to
save me - that's for sure!

Steve

On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:51 +1200, dave wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Been experiencing an server not found error (this is intermittent) and occurs 
 on any website i care to visit (or not).
 
 Apart from checking the physical (like the cable running from the PC to the D-
 link router) what sorts of testing analysis s/w could i run to try and find 
 the 
 fault?
 
 From the cable modem I have as mentioned a wireless router (so that thing 
 can't go off line - Kids will go spare esp eldest).
   
 Just asked the family and they're experiencing the issues too.
 
 Before i spend money on a replacement wireless router i'd like to see if i 
 can 
 isolate it to the router or perhaps the modem.
 
 Vodafone call centre says the connection is fine (been plugged in for @ 19 
 days, had turned everything off for a week prior to that and had experienced 
 this problem then too.
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-06-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
Eeeuw (:

I am using kimai now thanks. http://www.kimai.org/

Seems to be working OK so far, although not perfect.

Cheers,

Steve

On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 23:53 +, Davin Pearson wrote:
 Why not use Emacs for this.  Emacs is free and open source.
 
 
 I have written a file called d-time.el that operates a countdown
 timer 
 
 for telling you when something needs to be done.
 
 
 
 On 29 May 2014 20:37, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time
 recording
 software - open source of course - that I can use to replace
 the old
 exercise book approach???
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
Bah, requires gtk3, and that ain't going to run on CentOS 6 ):


On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 10:40 +1200, C. Falconer wrote:
 
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  On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 08:37:26AM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
  Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time recording
  software - open source of course - that I can use to replace the
 old
  exercise book approach???
 
  I use Hamster http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ It's in the
 Debian
  repos as hamster-applet.
 
 
 I second hamster.
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 12:25 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Fri 30 May 2014 10:50:47 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 
  Bah, requires gtk3, and that ain't going to run on CentOS 6 ):
 
 Wt?!???
 Why not? gtk3 is hardly new. It's FOSS, and should just be a compiler
 away.
 
 Volker
 
Even more specifically it requires v. 3.10 or higher, and that's not
going to happen on my work machines.

I'm looking at http://www.kimai.org/ ... requirements PHP 5.2 or higher,
Mysql, web server. Nothing even remotely bleeding edge there.

Steve

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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 13:32 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Fri 30 May 2014 12:36:04 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 
  Even more specifically it requires v. 3.10 or higher, and that's not
  going to happen on my work machines.
 
 I'm curious as to why. It's an application you use on your desktop. Or
 in any case, you'd be the only one using it so access restrictions
 should be easy.
 
 Volker
 
Because my workstation is exactly that, and is built with a close
approximation of the same packages to the servers I manage. Sure it's
got a GUI - the standard CentOS GUI - but it also runs the same versions
of MySQL, nginx, PHP, Redis... as the servers I support. 

IMO bleeding edge has no place in the production environment.


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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
Doesn't look very current any more unfortunately - certainly seemed to
be the best fit.

On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 09:23 +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote:
 Online, http://tracklr.com/ is developed  run by NZ Chch people. When
 I cared about billing/time tracking, I used it successfully.
 
 -jim
 
 On 30 May 2014 08:37, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time
 recording
 software - open source of course - that I can use to replace
 the old
 exercise book approach???
 
 Cheers,
 
 Steve
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 14:55 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Fri 30 May 2014 13:44:26 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 
  Because my workstation is exactly that, and is built with a close
  approximation of the same packages to the servers I manage.
 
 OK. Other ways to achieve that, this is one.
 
  Sure it's
  got a GUI - the standard CentOS GUI - but it also runs the same versions
  of MySQL, nginx, PHP, Redis... as the servers I support.
 
 The software in question required gtk3, ao I assume it's a desktop
 application. How does installing a gtk3 library(!) on your desktop, for
 the exclusive use of one desktop application, affect your mysql, php,
 nginx, etc.? So far, your no-gtk3-on-my-desktop rule seems arbitrary and
 nonsensical, so I'm interesting in your resoning (which so far I fail to
 follow).
 
  IMO bleeding edge has no place in the production environment.
 
 That may be so, but your desktop is not a production environment. If you
 need a proper staging server, install one. Virtualbox is good. Running a
 stripped-down server as your desktop will give you headaches, as you're
 noticing.
 
 Volker
 
My desktop is *MY* window to my and my clients production environments.
As such I treat it with the same level of care as the production servers
themselves. Anything that could possibly compromise that ( like
installing software from non-mainstream repos ) is an unacceptable risk.

This workstation may be limited when it comes to ( for example
multimedia ) functionality, but it does absolutely everything I require
to function as a business, well and fast. And I have a radio.

I run proper KVM if I want virtualisation ( and yes, I happily use them
in production as well as development ), on multiple local and remote
servers... none of Larry's software here thankyou very much ( and before
you ask, I use Percona MySQL ).

I have stated the reasons why I consider adding bleeding edge software
to that to be a bad idea. Unlike you, this is my business, so my
assessment of the risks involved will necessarily be different... all
risks are subjective, so your and my view will always differ.

One thing that a career in the IT industry has taught me is that if
someone requires the latest and greatest version of something ( or if
the documentation is complete crap ), then treat it as alpha software at
best until proved otherwise.

If I can find a time management solution that I consider safe, and even
better if I can just bung it on one of my servers and have it
automagically incorporated into my backup systems, then for me that's
the best solution.

Steve



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Re: [Linux-users] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

2014-05-07 Thread Steve Holdoway

On 08/05/14 08:04, chris wrote:

On 08/05/14 07:53, Steve Holdoway wrote:
I run it on this lappie, and tbh I sick or either the GUI or the 
whole system locking up.


I may well be trying Fedora soon.
I am running xubuntu 10.04 with not a problem, on my Asus g73s, even 
the fn keys work

Chris t
10.04 was fine ( I still have a server running it ), so was 12.04. As an 
LTS, this is unacceptable...


Maybe time to migrate those that aren't to the RedHat fold...

Cheers,

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Re: [Linux-users] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

2014-05-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
[Top posting cos it's getting too messy]

You're missing the point of debian ( and RedHat and maybe amazon linux
too these days ) completely.

They are designed primarily for servers. As a server sysadmin I  am
really happy to stay well away from the bleeding edge of development,
and reside in a more comfortable space where features are locked down
and I benefit from the huge pool of testers provided by the number of
sites who update through their package management systems.

Sure, I'm missing out on the last n% of performance, and I can't connect
to X, and my whizzbang graphics card doesn't function?

Well, me ( server admin ) and Craig's granny are in the same boat
here... reliability and security are far more important. 

TBH this thread was started about an Ubuntu LTS - ie a primarily server
oriented release. My moan was that it's not fit for a lappie, and am
probably going to vote with my feet.

Your requirements for a desktop OS and others are not necessarily the
same... I would expect that an user of ( primarily ) web based email
will not need much specific hardware. 

They might even prefer KDE or lizards (lol)

Steve



On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 11:09 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Thu 08 May 2014 09:34:34 NZST +1200, C. Falconer wrote:
 
  Perhaps its time to drop all the frippery and return to the core values
  of Debian where it works is more important than eye candy, and there
 
 Define it works. Spending half a day studying the 'net, then half an
 hour editing a text file just to make X work which should just work is
 a form of works. As is a something that pops up on the desktop after a
 plug in event and says cool, I created the config, works now with a
 button OK.
 When it comes to suggesting it to other-OS user, or simply for getting
 some real work done, I know which one I pick to avoid embarrassing
 myself too much.
 
  is no concept of Long Term Support because that's the default.
 
 Oh really? My own real-life experiences with that are:
 1) We all know the stale/beta/broken. It's too true. Stale simply
 doesn't have the required drivers for the not-so-young hardware,
 beta/broken just doesn't seem like a good idea for anything supposed to
 be stable for some time.
 2) No free-time developer cares about stuff 3 years old that they last
 used themselves 2.9 years ago. Consequently, the promised
 long-term-support updates simply don't happen. It's a hollow promise.
 
 Both these points make Debian a bad choice for a desktop OS.
 
  In other linux-related issues, my Nana still runs XP.   Her sole use of
  the computer is email via a web browser.
 
 Tick tick tick tick tick
 
  Has anyone got a suggestion for essentially a web-kiosk distro ?
  I'd build a plain debian install, but are there any other suggestions ?
 
 In your case, the factors are:
 Someone needs to show the user initially the new stuff.
 It needs to run on existing old hardware.
 Someone needs to install updates frequently (i.e. you).
 Those updates are ideally either provided for some time, or a complete
 upgrade can be performed painlessly and quickly for both user and you.
 
 The combination of plain debian and you might be a best fit for the
 case.
 
 Volker
 

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Re: [Linux-users] Fwd: Ubuntu One file services

2014-05-04 Thread Steve Holdoway

On 04/05/14 20:08, Roy Britten wrote:



On Apr 4, 2014 12:10 AM, Chris Hellyar ch...@trash.co.nz 
mailto:ch...@trash.co.nz wrote:


 Interesting...

 One assumes they were struggling to compete with the big players in 
the market..


 Cheers, Chris H.


  Original Message 
 Subject:
 Ubuntu One file services
 Date:
 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 07:05:56 -0400
 From:
 Ubuntu One nore...@one.ubuntu.com mailto:nore...@one.ubuntu.com
 To:
 ch...@trash.co.nz mailto:ch...@trash.co.nz


 Hi,

 We are writing to you to notify you that we will be shutting down the
 Ubuntu One file services, effective 1 June 2014.

So what other cloud backup/sync/sharing services are folks using? I 
have ~30GB of data I like to have backed up; many services seem to 
want  USD$100 per annum to provide a sync service for that much data.


Cheers,
Roy.


Can you not use S3fs to mount Amazon buckets? The only shortcoming is it 
doesn't support hard links, so some of the clever space saving rsync 
solutions won't work.


None of the NZ based VPSes will provide anything like the space you need 
for that kind of cost. It may be worth looking for a group buy and 
running something like opencloud between yourselves - perfectly safe and 
separate. For example, I have had a server in Canada which provides me 
with 1TB for $20/mo - but that is an *extra* $20... you can have that 
much space via sftp for nowt if it's any use!


Just a thought or two (:

Steve.


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[Linux-users] BOFH seeks PFY...

2014-04-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
Hi Folks,

A bit off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I do a fair bit of
support work for a charity in town, and we could really do with someone
far more up to date with Microsoft ( and Android ) products / practices
than myself, but has basic knowledge / interest in things open source.

Although the desktops are Windows, the infrastructure is pure linux,
with plenty of KVM virtualisation, encryption, proxying, samba, MySQL,
nginx, OpenWRT etc... so there's plenty to be learned in exchange.
Currently on debian squeeze so you get to enjoy the pain of upgrading to
wheezy as well...

There is some money available, but don't expect a lot. And, of course,
the opportunity to work with one of the grumpiest BOFHs around!

Will suit student/grad/etc, but good communication skills and
reliability are of paramount importance.

Due to the nature of the work done by the charity, a police check will
be required.

Drop me a line offlist if you're interested.

Cheers,


Steve
Did I oversell it? They are a great bunch, and it is a very worthwhile
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Re: [Linux-users] Heart Bleed bug

2014-04-19 Thread Steve Holdoway
I get A+ on my own webmail interface, but then I pretty much know what 
devices are talking to it. That uses


ssl_ciphers 
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA:TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA:TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA:TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:ECDH+AESGCM:DH+AESGCM:ECDH+AES256:DH+AES256:ECDH+AES128:DH+AES:ECDH+3DES:DH+3DES:RSA+AES:RSA+3DES:!ADH:!AECDH:!MD5:!DSS;


(nginx syntax, sorry. I'm a convert) ciphers and, apart from supporting 
SNI on this would talk to anything but java 6 I think. This is the 'best 
practice' I've come up with. Interesting just how many blog posts are 
just cut/pastes of other works when researching this!


To be honest, I reckon that you're being pretty paranoid ( even if it is 
in the SysAdmin jobspec ) by tuning SSL at all, although I do make all 
these newfangled elliptical ciphers available, and try to use the less 
computationally complex options. Can't remember what not using RC4 
disables, but that also seems to be a logical step as it's been pretty 
well discredited. SSL2 is in the same boat.


One question does intrigue me though... with all this grief about the 
difficulty in revoking certs, is it really necessary if you're just 
binning it??


Cheers,

Steve
On 20/04/14 00:24, Chris Hellyar wrote:

Hi Steve...

Not really related to the heartbleed issue, but about apache SSL 
protocol settings..


Have you had any issues with disabling ssl 2/3 ?

I've never managed to get qualsys to give me better than an 'A-' and 
still keep support for older IE7/8 and early android 2.x mobile 
devices intact.  I turn off SSL2,  but keep 3 enabled for the old stuff.


ie: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=rd3.co.nz

(My own one, can't really share any of the work ones that have the 
issue as they are what we'd call dark-web. :) )


There's lots written about this all over the web but no real 
best-practice info for keeping the old devices supported that floats 
to the top. Unfortunately I support some stuff that is used 
predominantly in Asia and there are a _lot_ of old mobile and windows 
XP devices there...


Cheers, Me.


On 09/04/14 11:33, Steve Holdoway wrote:

Here's one I cleaned up earlier...

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=kidstoybox.com.au (: 
Cheers, Steve 


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Re: [Linux-users] Heart Bleed bug

2014-04-19 Thread Steve Holdoway

On 20/04/14 10:32, Steve Holdoway wrote:


To be honest, I reckon that you're being pretty paranoid ( even if it 
is in the SysAdmin jobspec ) by tuning SSL at all, although I do make 
all these newfangled elliptical ciphers available, and try to use the 
less computationally complex options. Can't remember what not using 
RC4 disables, but that also seems to be a logical step as it's been 
pretty well discredited. SSL2 is in the same boat.


Sorry Chris, poorly worded. What I meant to say was that in general I 
think that it's probably a bit over the top to worry about tuning SSL, 
rather than intimating that you're paranoid!


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Re: [Linux-users] usb

2014-04-16 Thread Steve Holdoway
Am doing this right now... Linux lappie to Galaxy S2/android. Just need 
a cheap (!) prepay SIM whilst I'm in Melb...



On 17/04/14 14:41, Andrew Errington wrote:

Can you tether to a cellphone? Set it up as a WiFi AP then connect to
it from the PC. No drivers required.

Just curious, since I have just done exactly that, but not in NZ, so I
wonder what the situation is like there.

A

On 17/04/2014, yuri yur...@gmail.com wrote:

On 17 April 2014 13:39, chris wrote:

Hi All,
Has any one got any experience to share on a 2 degrees usb modem using
xubuntu 13.10?
I am having to move around the country for the next few years, so will be
with out broadband
Regards Chris Waipara

IME the older white one works, the newer, faster black one doesn't.
They're both Huawei, I think.
You need to have the package usb-modeswitch installed. Most distros have
it.

For $99 you can get a 3G Wifi hotspot device from the 2 degrees kiosk
in most malls. It's the size of a small cellphone and it's normal
WEP/WPA/WPA2 wifi that works with any Wifi capable device, including
Linux. It has a web interface for doing 2 degrees top-ups. It's also
Huawei.

YMMV
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Re: [Linux-users] Heart Bleed bug

2014-04-08 Thread Steve Holdoway
No it's not a hoax. Yes it's serious. CentOS 6.5 seems to be patched as 
of an hour or so ago.


On 08/04/14 18:48, chris wrote:

Hi All
This arrived in my mail box a few moments ago.
Http://heartbleed.com/
Question

Is this a hoax?
If not, how serious is it

Regards Chris Waipara


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Re: [Linux-users] Heart Bleed bug

2014-04-08 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 21:05 +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:32 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All
  This arrived in my mail box a few moments ago.
  Http://heartbleed.com/
  Question
 
  Is this a hoax?
  If not, how serious is it
 
 This isn't very serious for a user.
 For a server administrator, however, patching is a required start, but
 not the end of the story.
[snip]

Good point there Jim. Had been battling with the cleanup all day so was
not in quite such an objective frame of mind.

Qualys have added a check for those who want to know whether their
*websites* are at risk...

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest

Here's one I cleaned up earlier...

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=kidstoybox.com.au

(:

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Re: [Linux-users] OSS on National radio...

2014-03-13 Thread Steve Brorens
Umm, looking at the schedule I see a program on *Uruguay*


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Chris Hellyar ch...@trash.co.nz wrote:

 For those not glued to telly tonight:

 There's a show coming up on the national program before 9 about open
 source software, missed the exact time sorry...

 Not sure the angle, but the announcer mentioned Ubuntu so one assumes it's
 linuxy. :-)

 Cheers, Chris H.
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Re: [Linux-users] up yours selinux !

2014-03-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 18:28 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Mon 10 Mar 2014 12:14:28 NZDT +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:
 
  On 10 March 2014 11:41, C. Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote:
  
   Drop a message in the log file, if nothing else.
 
  I would imagine if you logged everywhere read access failed due to
  security, you'd have a log file so deep you would quickly run out of
  diskspace.
 
 I have not used selinux because I get apparmor out of the box, so I
 can't speak for selinux. However, apparmor behaves as I described, it
 prevents access if the access isn't permitted by one of its apparmor
 rules. Failures are logged, they should trigger your alarm (if you have
 the system correctly configured). For configuration you put the system
 into trial mode, which is the as-shipped state. Here, all accesses
 denied by rules are logged and permitted, so you set up your rule base.
 
 The level of control with apparmor rules puts filesystem rules to shame.
 Once you are on a production server you start apparmor during early
 boot, after which it can not be disabled. root has no special
 privileges.
 
 This sounds like a sensible system to me, to overcome the historic state
 of the *ix permission system, which was primitive when designed and is
 not really that adequate today. It's even more true for filesystem
 permissions, hence complex (and IMHO barely usable) afterthoughts like
 ACLs, which I find frequently unusable because they don't give me things
 like if the file is under this directory, I want permissions XYZ,
 especially after being copied there. Perhaps extended attributes and
 capabilities go some way towards apparmor/selinux, but obviously not far
 enough or server vendors wouldn't have developed apparmor and selinux.
 
 Perhaps it's just that selinux sucks compared with apparmor...? ;-)
 
 Volker
 
Hmm... we're talking production servers here are we? If that's the case,
then they will very rarely be generic, and unwanted services are already
removed, and there will rarely be users directly accessing the server.
They will also be heavily monitored... something else that the out of
the box selinux fails to allow - in fact you can't even move a website
docroot out of /var/www without a fight. 

Personally cannot think of a single use case for if the file is under
this directory, I want permissions XYZ which can't be delivered by the
current MAC/DAC/umask system... well, not one I'd want to see on a
production server - KISS is paramount! Use of secondary groups+setgid
+(rarely) umask+pam.d changes has done just about everything I need*

I personally would ( well, do! ) separate specific functionality by
server - be it dedicated or virtual - and certainly do not use software
like this who's prime function in practice is to - as Craig so rightly
states IMO - get in the way of Administrators. 

I am closely following the docker project too...


Steve

*with the exception of locking down production website docroots where I
use lock/unlock scripts to facilitate changes. But that's a
time-dependent thing really.

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Re: [Linux-users] up yours selinux !

2014-03-08 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Sun, 2014-03-09 at 07:39 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Sat 08 Mar 2014 16:12:52 NZDT +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 
  Useless bloody security system that offers nothing.  No wonder its
  often just turned off.
 
  Security for people who can't understand file permissions.
 
 Isn't that a bit much ignorance? It is supposed to be a system to protect
 you after your box has been partially compromised and your file
 permissions have become useless, as well as giving you much finer
 control (the ACL thing was already an afterthought, and it shows).
Nope. Not in my view. If your server is partially ( if there is such a
thing ) compromised, then MACs and DACs will protect you just as well.
If the perp has root access then SELinux isn't going to protect you from
anything more.
 
 Also, the *ix file permission system sucks in very large parts. There
 are a gazillion files on the system any particular service process does
 not need any access to, and as you know, access to anything not needed
 should be shut down. selinux/apparmor allow you to do that, as well as
 deal with the exceptions that may arise. Your file permissions are
 pathetic in comparison. They also don't allow you to control things like
 network interfaces or the capabilities system, though I'm unsure off the
 top of my head whether selinux does.
See above. Being able to read stuff does technically expand the threat
surface, but you still can't modify it. The risk of this compared to the
added effort configuring SELinux is a no brainer for me, and selinux
loses.

It's like these prople who firewall every incoming port, whether there's
a service listening on it or not. Looks impressive, but it's just harder
to maintain.
 
 Volker
 
But then perception of risk is a purely personal thing, coloured by your
own experiences...

Steve
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Re: [Linux-users] up yours selinux !

2014-03-07 Thread Steve Holdoway

On 07/03/14 19:54, C. Falconer wrote:



Useless bloody security system that offers nothing.  No wonder its 
often just turned off.

Yes - took me about half an hour to find it.


With you 100% there!

Security for people who can't understand file permissions.

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Re: [Linux-users] Linux/Android heaven?

2014-02-26 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 20:45 +1300, Robert Fisher wrote:
 I thought that it was about time for another post to the CLUG, albeit 
 trivial.
 
 I think I have Linux/Android heaven here at home for now.
 
 I have had Linux Mint Debian Edition installed since it was first 
 launched, maybe 4 years ago without needing a new installation.
 (I have played with other distros in VMs.)
 
 I have a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7 both running Kitkat and both charged with 
 a QI charger.
 
 I am a happy camper.

Swmbo has a Win7 desktop and lappie and my lappie currently will boot
into same... and I've got an old Apple mini in a corner somewhere, but
it's switched off, honest! All I offer is a few cifs shares lol... well,
and abuse!

Apart from that we're the same, although in ludicrous numbers:

 - CentOS 5 running asterisk / weather station stuff ( finally USB! )
 - Ubuntu 10.04 dev server running KVM + half a dozen clients
 - this trainwreck workstation with CentOS 6
 - lappie / Ubuntu 13.10 ( blegh )
 - Rikomagic MK802.IIIS / android 
 - Rikomagic MK 802 IV  / PicUntu
 - S2 / cyanogenmod 11 - mine
 - S4 / stockandroid - the bosses
 - Acer A500 tab / Cyanogenmod 11 ( what a bargain that was! )
 - Tab 10.1 / stock android ( new battery coming then cyanogenmod )
 - Samsung 7 inch tab / stock android
 - Soekris net4801 / voyage waiting to replace asterisk when I get round
to it
 - older soekris / voyage running loads of wifi.

Just need the new metric 50 hour days to play...

Steve

Just remembered... there's a backup server for a local charity hidden
away here too, debian!

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Re: [Linux-users] Linux/Android heaven?

2014-02-26 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 11:27 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Thu 27 Feb 2014 09:14:28 NZDT +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
 
  Pffft.   My home server started in June 2000 as Debian Slink  (that's
  version 2.1 in imperial measurements)
 
 Metric was useable numbers with decimal point and imperial something
 braindead, wasn't it? Looks like you go it the wrong way round.
 
 Volker
 
Mater of opinion. Some of us were taught maths at school using points,
shillings and pence... and the US still use gallons - albeit silly
little ones.

Don't you come from a land which switches commas and dots???

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Re: [Linux-users] site support documentation softrware

2014-02-04 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 12:37 +1300, Miles Rout wrote:
 If it works, why stop using it just because it's old?
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Steve Holdoway
 st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
 Being ancient, I normally use trac for this, but really should
 be moving
 on to something more modern.
 

I've been saying that about myself for a few years now...

But it isn't going to be just me that uses/updates it, so if there is a
more user friendly alternative to the WikiFormatting rules it uses, then
this is good. I haven't tried the trac wysiwyg plugin... maybe I should
do that first (:

In addition it's written in python, which, whilst being no bad thing, is
out of my skillset to fully support.

As I said, I'm more after suggestions that don't have my bias. It seems 
like Jira/Confluence are no longer have a free stream free which is a 
shame, but maybe similar products that people have experience of should 
be thrown into the mix. Redmine almost looks like a rewrite of trac...

Cheers,


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[Linux-users] site support documentation softrware

2014-02-03 Thread Steve Holdoway
Folks,

I have a need for input on what software I should use to document the
inner workings of a site ( physical, not web ) I work at. Their network
is linux based, and it's a charity so I don't feel bad about asking for
suggestions!

Being ancient, I normally use trac for this, but really should be moving
on to something more modern. I see quite a few alternatives out there,
but my personal feelings are colouring the selection too much... I
really do detest java based solutions and their massive waste of
resources. I could do with input of a more objective ( or someone elses
subjective ) view.

Let me know what you'd use!

Cheers,

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Re: [Linux-users] Disk speed

2014-02-03 Thread Steve Holdoway
ADATA SP900
/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   8024 MB in  2.00 seconds = 4014.98 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 970 MB in  3.01 seconds = 322.75 MB/sec

ADATA SSD S511 1
/dev/sdb:
 Timing cached reads:   8072 MB in  2.00 seconds = 4039.68 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 870 MB in  3.00 seconds = 289.73 MB/sec

Second one is the older disk.


Steve

On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 12:01 +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
 Timing buffered disk reads: 532 MB in  3.00 seconds = 177.30 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 566 MB in  3.00 seconds = 188.49 MB/sec
 
 So the faster one is a 64 GB Intel SSD on a SATA3 connector
 The *slightly* slower is a 2 TB seagate desktop drive on SATA2 that
 cost me under a hundred bucks.
 
 
 So is my ssd excessively slow?  Have I been bitten by the trim thing?
 Does anyone else have access to a normal SSD in linux to run a quick
 hdparm -t /dev/sd?and email me the result?
 
 
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