VO bug in contacts in ios 4
Hi all, You might not have noticed yet but in the contacts in ios 4 you can't change the label for phone numbers. It's just stuck on mobile. Here is an explanation I worked out and the work around to the bug. Please contact apple to report this. *** I have confirmed this is a VO problem. I have found a work around though. It's not perfect so I urge you all to contact apple and inform them about the problem I'm about to describe. The contacts now has a drop down list to choose the type of number label you want to use. You can't activate this list with voiceover on though. That's the problem we've been running in to. It is on the extreme left of the screen towards the middle. You will here it say mobile which is the default option in the list. It is directly to the left of the edit field for phone numbers. If you just slide your finger down till you hear mobile edit and slide your finger to the left until your almost to the edge of the screen you will find it. To activate this drop down list you need to turn Voiceover off with a triple home press then tap that portion of the screen that I just described. Turn VO back on and you will find a list showing Home, work, main and the other phone number labels. Just double tap on the one you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver 4.0
Hello Annie, For the time being, Apple doesn't even provide grade 1 Braille in other languages apart from American English. It's my husband who provides all the Braille in other languages, and he has not found a way to implement contracted Braille. He has had no help whatsoever from Apple in this and he is certainly not paid to do it. In view of the fact that contracted Braille is now provided on the iPhone for quite a number of languages, I should imagine that you will get your wish with the next level of Mac OS X. Cheers, Anne On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:55 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi all. One thing that I would really wish would be implemented is grade two braille in other languages than english, I would love a sort of router so you can easily change between languages and the braille grade two changes too. I would like grade two for danish so much, it would be a dream if we could get both 6 dots braille and 8 dots braille, and I would love to help apple with testing and correcting and whatever they need. I would also like a function in text edit or in pages so that we can go through a document by selecting headings on defferent levels, if we have made them. When I would like a function, so we could change braille input keys on braille displays, because as it is now, you can only change the specific voiceover keys, it would be useful if we could change some other commands too. And it would be useful, if we could find a table of commands somewhere. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4
I don't knwo how skype will be onteh new phone. I'm having plenty of issues. and I would wait until they update it to multy task or what ever it is called. S On Jun 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Guys, I'm picking up an iPhone in two weeks or so when they have more in. Does anyone have a recommendation for the best Skype app in IOS4? Is it possible to hear a tone when someone is skyping you with this new app? Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4
I am using the Skype app on my 3gs, and it's working fine. I love this app, and I can't wait until they update it and take advantage of multi-tasking. I use this app daily, and have experienced very few problems with it. Earle msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca twitter and facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 2:39 AM Subject: Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4 I don't knwo how skype will be onteh new phone. I'm having plenty of issues. and I would wait until they update it to multy task or what ever it is called. S On Jun 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Guys, I'm picking up an iPhone in two weeks or so when they have more in. Does anyone have a recommendation for the best Skype app in IOS4? Is it possible to hear a tone when someone is skyping you with this new app? Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Ha ha! good man, so getting back on topic and away from my personal life (grin), you gonna buy one? On 28 Jun 2010, at 01:34, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Sure Chris, hide behind one of those names that leave you anonymous. Now I know coach, Anthropology and such things are in your vocabulary. Good advice though and coming from someone on the other team, I'll take the wisdom. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Chris Moore wrote: yes, but sadly as I play for the other team I would probably keep hitting on he husbands lol On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone
You tried in good lighting conditions? I must admit I find it a bit hit and miss so don't think I will use it much. As for labels I will stick with my RNIB Pen Friend Audio Labeller (it was only £50) and never fails. On 28 Jun 2010, at 02:03, Doug Lawlor wrote: I purchased the Digit Eyes app and have not had any success in scanning items so far. I even tried turning the phone on it's side and holding the phone a couple of inches away from the item in question. Still no luck with it. I am going to buy the labels they've recommend on there site to sea if I can get the app to scan the audio labels they are talking about. The company doesn't mention if you need any special software to print these labels. I think I will contact the company tomorrow to find out how to go about printing these. . . Doug Sent from my iPhone On 2010-06-27, at 12:31 PM, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote: It's not a laser camera. It's just a laser barcode reader, and in my opinion they over charge for the thing. I am not going to commit to anything here. But if I can get ahold of a bluetooth barcode reader, the laser type, I would like to port an app that I wrote for the Icon/Braille Plus that does exactly the same thing. The issue is that a BT reader usually runs around $300 and that price point is still too high in my opinion. I would really like for the entry point to be in the 100 to 150 dollar range. I have been wondering why the Digit-Eyes folks haven't considered this approach. It would not be very difficult to make it a setting to either use the camera or the scanner to grab the barcode and then query their database. Hell, I would even contemplate the $30 cost of the software and the $300 cost of a scanner if it had that functionality. Just my thoughts. Keith But if I can find On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I have managed to scan a few things with sighted assistance. I will do a podcast tomorrow on it. I think you have to wait for a minute or two for Digit-eyes to come back with a positive ID. I didn't know the ID Mate had a lazar camera that makes sense why it's so expensive. there is a trick with Digit-Eyes according to my Mom. You have to hold the phone on it's side and make sure the screen curtain is turned off. If you hold it a few inches away from the item you're trying to scan you will get better results that way or so I've found with the few things I tried. Allison On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No not really, it is tricky, if you have a enough sight to see where the barcode is then you have a bit more success. It has been hit and miss with me and to be honest by the time I have managed to get it to read a barcode I have placed the item under my iPal Solo to have it read instead. I I have not used the ID mate in person, but I guess the 3D camera would explain its hight price. If you have no vision at all it is very difficult to locate the barcode, so this solution is not ideal, unless there was a ruling to say where barcodes can always be found. Let's hope the OCR solutions for the iPhone are more successful. But the barcode reader is not totally useless as I did manage to scan some things. On 27 Jun 2010, at 07:16, Bryan Smart wrote: With Digit-Eyes, how do you find the bar code? When I was involved with the development of an accessible bar code system a few years back, cameras didn't do a good job. For the bar code recognition to work, the camera couldn't face the bar code at an angle, at it had to be right-side-up. Of course, a blind person doesn't necessarily know where on the box, can, or bottle the bar code is to be found, so that creates a challenge. That's partly why the ID Mate is so expensive. They must use a 3D laser scanner, like is used in the check-out line at a grocery store. Those perform an active scan, and can register bar codes at any angle, and even on curved surfaces. You can basically hold up the scanner and turn the container in front of the camera, and it will automatically scan the bar code as soon as it's visible, regardless of the bar code's orientation. My thoughts were that the iPhone app would be like trying to read a bar code with a CCD scanner. Yes, it would work but only if you knew where to find the bar code, which way was right-side-up, and only if the bar code was on a flat surface. Is it better than that? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone Hi Bryan and all, I can say with certainty that the camera on the 3GS works well for the new bar code reader that Josh Lioncourt was talking about the other day Digit-Eyes. I have
Re: How do you activate and deactivate the num lock
Hi Esther. I have thought of a hardware problem, I am not sure, we will try this. Thank you. Best regards Annie. 2010/6/27, Esther mori...@mac.com: Hi Annie, This is beginning to sound as though the input keyboard or some such setting was changed. If the Num lock key is activated, you will not be able to type anything under q w e r t y and you will only start getting numbers under the right hand part of that row of keys 4 5 6 *. Macbook models in 2008 and later don't have Num lock keys. The closest thing you can do is to turn on Mouse Keys under the Universal Access menu of System Preferences. Mouse Keys is a keyboard setting that lets users with motion disabilities move the position of the cursor with the numeric keypad keys, so the 5 key represents the current position of the cursor, and if you press the key above it (8) your cursor moves up one screen pixel, while if you press the key below it (2) you move down one screen pixel, and similarly for motions to the left (4), right (6), and diagonally up the left (7) or right (9) and diagonally down to the left (1) or right (3). When they took away the embedded numeric keypad on the Mac laptops, they had to leave these functions in for Mouse Keys, so the 7 8 9, u i o, and j k l keys on the Macbook keyboard took the place of the numbers 1-9 on the numeric keypad for cursor movement. Normally, you have to select Mouse Keys from the Universal Access menu to turn it on. There is a check box to allow you to press the option key 5 times in succession to turn Mouse Keys on or off. You hear a kind of chittering noise when that happens. If your friend can type on the left side of the keyboard (or anywhere outside of the keys I mentioned) and get characters, even if they are strange ones or numbers, then it sounds as though the input keyboard has gotten switched in some weird fashion. I think (I'm not sure) that control of the input keyboard is in a preference file called com.Apple.HIToolbox.plist in your user Library/Preferences folder. That is, if you are in Finder, and go to your Home directory (Command- Shift-H), then use Command-Shift-G (for Go to Folder) and type in: Library/Preferences (without the quotation marks) and press return, you'll be in the Preferences folder where you can find the com.Apple.HIToolbox.plist file. If you move this out of that directory, your machine should reset to using the default values. (I know that's a peculiar file name, but I think it stands for Human Interface Toolbox). The problem is, I don't know how to switch or navigate with the keyboard in its current state. Is it possible to just shut down and reboot? Also, is there another user account that can be used? I keep a test account so that I can check whether odd behavior is due to a strange state or setting in my account -- such as corrupted plist files -- as opposed to a problem with the Mac as a whole. Also, I set up my Sharing preferences so that I can do a remote login -- even to my own account if something is frozen. Then I can log in and make changes through the Terminal. Those are most of my current thoughts. Is it possible that your friend could have turned on mouse keys? Are there other characters that appear when the left side of the keyboard is used? This sounds pretty enigmatic; could it simply be a hardware wiring problem with the keyboard? Cheers, Esther On Jun 27, 2010, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi Esther. I know that my frends macbook is newer, I think it is from 2009. So it does not work with f6 or fn+f6. But I can not find anything about how it can be done on a newer mac. Hope you can help. Best regards Annie. 2010/6/27, Esther mori...@mac.com: Hi Annie, If your friend's Macbook was made earlier than about November 2007 and has the Num lock key, then you're correct, you can toggle it off with either Fn+F6 or F6. The first combination is more likely for VoiceOver use. It depends on your Keyboard setup under System Preferences -- whether you have the box checked for Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys on the first tab of the Keyboard Mouse Menu. But either Fn+F6 or just F6 should switch the Num lock key off. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 27, 2010, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi all. One of my friends has made a mistake and got activated the num lock on his mac book. How is it possible to deactivate it again. I thought it was fn +f6, but I am not sure about that, it does not work on my own mac. The problem is that the row with the letters q w e r t y u i o shows numbers instead of letters. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Gestures on Multi-Touch trackpad.
you could always go into (well I call it practice mode) but its keyboard mode. Press control + option + k (and press esc to get back out of it when you are ready to do so) now you can hit any key combination and voiceover will tell you its function, moreover, you can use the gestures in this mode. Go on swipe away trying all different combinations of fingers and taps , single, double etc. You will learn them quick enough and then press Esc when you are done. On 28 Jun 2010, at 05:55, Simon F wrote: Hi Linda, Thanks for sending this out. I wondered if it is possible to have this information in a word or text file or even html file that can be downloaded on to a local machine, as I use my mac in a lot of places that I don’t have a connection to the internet. And it would be good to be able to access from anywhere. Cheers Simon F From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Adams Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:53 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Gestures on Multi-Touch trackpad. James, Here is the link to the full guide http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ and here is the link to the Appendix that has the gesture commands http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1131.html The guide is not all inclusive but it is very helpful. Linda -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Gestures on Multi-Touch trackpad. Hi, Consult the VoiceOVer manual. They're all in there. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Chris Moore wrote: The ones I know (I use my iMac more then my macbook) flick left or right to move back and forth. Two fingers down swipe to read all. 3 fingers down swipe up and down to move up and down a page. 2 finger double tap at the bottom of the pad for the dock. 2 finger double tap at the top of the pad for the menu. Use 2 fingers and turn for the rota settings. 2 finger double tap on the left middle for open applications and 2 finger double tap on the right middle for open windows. Sorry to anyone in advance if I have left stuff out and made a mistake, like I say I have not got into gestures much yet. Hope this helps though Chris On 23 Jun 2010, at 13:52, James Gallagher wrote: Hello to all on the List. hope that all are well. Yesterday I bought my first MacBook pro 13inch 13inch 2.66GHz (Intel Core 2 Duo, 4Gb RAM, 320Gb Been using a Mac for coming up for three Years since Leopard got Braille support built in to it. And a very Happy Mac user. with an iMac and three Mac Minis. My Question and help I need is can anyone please give me any info about using VoiceOver Gestures on Multi-Touch trackpad. I read here that many of you use podt casts to learn from others about this. I am a Deafblind person so these things are no good to me. is there a good and helpful text document out there that I can read and learn all the thinks I can do with this great little trackpad. I would be very grateful for any info or help Please. all the very best to you all. Yours James The highest result of education is tolerance. Hellen Keller -- James Gallagher A-Z to Deafblindness http://www.deafblind.com A Deafblindness Web Resource http://www.deafblind.co.uk Learn more about Braille Chess at http://www.BrailleChess.com My Guide Dogs http://www.wilma.co.uk For the Sighted Hearing my WAP site is at http://tagtag.com/deafblind -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: some IOS4 questions
Hi Donna, I can verify the advice given below, you do not need to reset the screen. Also I have not noticed the volume being softer. Which voice voiceover language you use? I use the Australian one as the British one sounds like she has a pillow over her face and a plum in her mouth, I mean its an iPod not and iPord! One thing I do hate about the speaker being on the bottom of the iphone with no grill is that it is so easy to cover it up with your hand whilst typing which results in blocking the sound. Is the sound louder on the iPhone 4 anyone? I am a deep sleeper so the iPhone 3GS does not wake me, my Nokia N96 was nice and loud though. Not sure if this is just me, but has anyone noticed that the battery seems to be better on standby than it was before? On 28 Jun 2010, at 03:21, Ricardo Walker wrote: Chris Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: deleting apps on iphone 4?
Double tap but hold on the second tap, you are now in edit icon mode (move by default) now double tap the app, this will not open it, it will now delete it, once done hit the home button again. On 28 Jun 2010, at 04:15, Georges Zaynoun wrote: But double tapping is to open not to delete as far as I understand, I want to delete iCal since I don't have an account, I am in Sweden how can I create an account for iCal? It is complaining that I don't have a microphone although I connect the headset that came with the iPOD so how to either remove this app or get it to work? Original message: thanks! Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: to delete an app, double tap it but do not hold On Jun 27, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: this gesture appears to have changed. Tapping and holding now seems to allow you to move an app, but not to delete it. I've checked the links to the manual that Esther posted, but haven't found anything on removing an app. Anyone figured out how to do this? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zaynoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some IOS4 questions
Thanks, Cody, got it. Cheers, Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: Hi, I don't see a difference in the volume. Do remove icons from folders, drag the appropriate icon to the edge of the screen and the home screen will appear, if there are 2 icons left and you drag one out, the other one will automatically come out and the folder will disappear On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some IOS4 questions
Hi Chris, Yep, I had to figure the folder thing out the hard way. Ah well, the joys of a new OS. :) At least now I know how folders work. Interesting re the volume. For me, there's a noticeable difference. Are you on an iphone 4 or a 3gs? I'm on the latter, don't know if that is the difference. Best, Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi Donna, I can verify the advice given below, you do not need to reset the screen. Also I have not noticed the volume being softer. Which voice voiceover language you use? I use the Australian one as the British one sounds like she has a pillow over her face and a plum in her mouth, I mean its an iPod not and iPord! One thing I do hate about the speaker being on the bottom of the iphone with no grill is that it is so easy to cover it up with your hand whilst typing which results in blocking the sound. Is the sound louder on the iPhone 4 anyone? I am a deep sleeper so the iPhone 3GS does not wake me, my Nokia N96 was nice and loud though. Not sure if this is just me, but has anyone noticed that the battery seems to be better on standby than it was before? On 28 Jun 2010, at 03:21, Ricardo Walker wrote: Chris Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Windows on the mac question
I too have reassigned the grav key for an insert using Sharp keys but the jaws cursor does not work! I've also assigned the right key next to the left arrow as an application key and that's OK. I'm just having problems with getting a jaws cursor! Kawal. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:57 -0600, Marshall Scott mfsc...@me.com wrote: Hi, I' used SharpKeys to remap the tilde key to the Insert key as well as reassigning a few other keys. This works fine and is much easier than changing the keymapping. Marshall On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Thanks Kevin. Keep me posted and may be write off list so as not to clutter everyone's boxes as others may be not interested. I'd need some detailed instructions in case I had to do anything. On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I found some data on remapping keys on the mac keyboard. Its a bit of a unix challenge and I am still working through the challenges of doing it. Based on my research. the Mac help key is the insert key on the standard keyboard. For macbooks and the keyboards minus a number pad, this key isn't available. I can't make any promises but I'll try and map an existing key to this key and script it. I haven't done any real unix scripting for 10 years or so and therefore, I'm real rusty at it. In the meantime, if someone comes up with something else, that'd be great. I remember the classic laptop keyboard configurations being an option in earlier versions of jaws but that doesn't seem to be available anymore. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Kev. Glad you have bought this subject up. I'm having the same problem. Some time ago, Mark Taylor wrote a message asking people to tell him how others got a jaws cursor. I'm having the same difficulty and need a jaws cursor. So if anyone can kindly tell us how they get around this problem, I'd be so grateful. I desperately need a jaws cursor. Sharp keys will not help me. Kawal. On Jun 26, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I'm running vmware fusion on my mac with windows 7. I'm having an issue getting jaws to recognize the caps lock key as the jaws key. When I try and use it in windows, it continues to recognize it as the caps lock key. Anyone have any ideas for resolution? Thanks, Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype User ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: Safari Reader Doesn't Seem to Get Along Wih Braille Displays?
Hi. I do not understand that. There is some problems with safari and braille at the moment, but I can normally read in HTML areas. Does your display not show anything at all, sometimes it helps me to interact with the text. I have problems when I write in a form field, if it is a mail on gmail or another long text, I can not see that on my display, only some of it. Best regards Annie. 2010/6/28, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com: Hi, All, I have cursor tracking on, and when trying to use my Focus 40 Blue display with the Safari 5 reader, I can't get it to display 'any of the text, even when I interact with HTML content. Is there any way to resolve this? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some IOS4 questions
I am on a iPhone EGS, stupid question but you have tried turning the phone up right? Sorry On 28 Jun 2010, at 09:31, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Chris, Yep, I had to figure the folder thing out the hard way. Ah well, the joys of a new OS. :) At least now I know how folders work. Interesting re the volume. For me, there's a noticeable difference. Are you on an iphone 4 or a 3gs? I'm on the latter, don't know if that is the difference. Best, Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi Donna, I can verify the advice given below, you do not need to reset the screen. Also I have not noticed the volume being softer. Which voice voiceover language you use? I use the Australian one as the British one sounds like she has a pillow over her face and a plum in her mouth, I mean its an iPod not and iPord! One thing I do hate about the speaker being on the bottom of the iphone with no grill is that it is so easy to cover it up with your hand whilst typing which results in blocking the sound. Is the sound louder on the iPhone 4 anyone? I am a deep sleeper so the iPhone 3GS does not wake me, my Nokia N96 was nice and loud though. Not sure if this is just me, but has anyone noticed that the battery seems to be better on standby than it was before? On 28 Jun 2010, at 03:21, Ricardo Walker wrote: Chris Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To
RE: Running Windows
Well, if you want to look at it that way, Parallels must work, too. I mean, once your VM is running a screen reader, then the virtual machine will work for you. However, if you can't operate the virtual machine software to adjust preferences, attach/detach devices from the virtual machine, manage virtual machines, etc, then that is pretty inaccessible. Glad that you can accomplish what you need with Virtual Box, but wouldn't want to imply that a blind user will be able to be independently successful with it. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon F Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Running Windows Bryan, That's not quite true, I use virtual box and I am totally blind. I get assistance when configuring the vm's but apart from that it's very usable. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2010 6:11 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Running Windows Yep. VMWare Fusion is the only virtual machine software that works. Parallels and Virtual Box aren't accessible at all. Fusion costs about $80, unless they're running one of their frequent specials. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Running Windows from what I have heard and read, fusion is much more friendly. hth Cody On Jun 26, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Chris Moore wrote: I recently bought parallels desktop 5 with the view to run a demo version of JAWS. I already have Windows XP installed via BootCamp. Anyway I got parallels up and running 9with sighted assistance). I am finding it is not very VoiceOver friendly. Even the preferences window can't even be used with VoiceOver (well you can select tabs) I noticed there were tabs for speech and iPhone, not sure what they do though. My question is this, have I bought the wrong product? Should I have bought Fusion? Is Fusion more VoiceOver friendly? cHRIS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone
The bar code laser scanners are a huge market. Practically any high volume inventory management system, from super markets to package shipping companies use them. Economy of scale has made them about as cheap as they're going to be for quite some time. If we weren't blind, then a CCD-based scanner could do the job at practically no cost (less than $20). Of course, the built-in iPhone camera could do just as well. The laser-based scanners are the only ones that can recognize the labels in the way that we need. One other point about the ID Mate. And, by the way, I'm not involved with that company, and don't own one, so have no personal reason to defend it. Besides the cost of the laser scanner, another large portion of the cost involves the licensing fee that they must pay to the manufacturer of the bar code database in order to legally distribute it with the ID Mate. I know that there are some free bar code databases online, and some sites that search those databases, but those barely contain anything other than the product name. The commercial databases also include everything from ingredients to cooking directions. Even a basic reader would be welcome, but, in order to have something nice, you'd also be required to license a bar code database, and that would jack up the price of your app. Because of the database size, you might not be able to bundle it with the app itself, due to App Store size restrictions. So, you'd have to keep the database online, which means a user's one-time purchase of your app would need to cover your web hosting costs in perpetuity. That isn't possible. So, your app would need to be a subscription-based service. I don't know how willing people would be to pay a monthly fee to read bar codes. I would, but lots of people are too cheap to support tools like that. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone It's not a laser camera. It's just a laser barcode reader, and in my opinion they over charge for the thing. I am not going to commit to anything here. But if I can get ahold of a bluetooth barcode reader, the laser type, I would like to port an app that I wrote for the Icon/Braille Plus that does exactly the same thing. The issue is that a BT reader usually runs around $300 and that price point is still too high in my opinion. I would really like for the entry point to be in the 100 to 150 dollar range. I have been wondering why the Digit-Eyes folks haven't considered this approach. It would not be very difficult to make it a setting to either use the camera or the scanner to grab the barcode and then query their database. Hell, I would even contemplate the $30 cost of the software and the $300 cost of a scanner if it had that functionality. Just my thoughts. Keith But if I can find On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I have managed to scan a few things with sighted assistance. I will do a podcast tomorrow on it. I think you have to wait for a minute or two for Digit-eyes to come back with a positive ID. I didn't know the ID Mate had a lazar camera that makes sense why it's so expensive. there is a trick with Digit-Eyes according to my Mom. You have to hold the phone on it's side and make sure the screen curtain is turned off. If you hold it a few inches away from the item you're trying to scan you will get better results that way or so I've found with the few things I tried. Allison On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No not really, it is tricky, if you have a enough sight to see where the barcode is then you have a bit more success. It has been hit and miss with me and to be honest by the time I have managed to get it to read a barcode I have placed the item under my iPal Solo to have it read instead. I I have not used the ID mate in person, but I guess the 3D camera would explain its hight price. If you have no vision at all it is very difficult to locate the barcode, so this solution is not ideal, unless there was a ruling to say where barcodes can always be found. Let's hope the OCR solutions for the iPhone are more successful. But the barcode reader is not totally useless as I did manage to scan some things. On 27 Jun 2010, at 07:16, Bryan Smart wrote: With Digit-Eyes, how do you find the bar code? When I was involved with the development of an accessible bar code system a few years back, cameras didn't do a good job. For the bar code recognition to work, the camera couldn't face the bar code at an angle, at it had to be right-side-up. Of course, a blind person doesn't necessarily know where on the box, can, or bottle the bar code is to be found, so that creates a challenge. That's partly why the ID Mate is so
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
blue tooth question on the mac
hi, i'm new to this list and my first question is: i paired my nokia n6210 navigator with my imac using blue tooth but when i go to system preffrences on the imac to check blue tooth, i can see the nokia n6210 navigator in the list but it says not connected, can anyone help solve this problem? thank you in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Windows on the mac question
Yep. I use this, too. In Windows under VMWare, I remap the Windows insert key to be my right command key. That way, I can hold down right-command with my thumb to trigger Jaws keyboard shortcuts. I also swapped the left-command and left-option keys, so that the Windows and alt keys are in the normal position. Finally, I altered the reight-option key to be the Windows context key. Sharp Keys is just as useful to reorganize your keyboard in BootCamp. It works by editing the Windows keybaord map in the registry, so it works absolutely everywhere in Windows. You don't need to leave it running as a task tray app or anything like that. Just Google for it. It's popular, and is near the top of the list. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marshall Scott Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows on the mac question Hi, I' used SharpKeys to remap the tilde key to the Insert key as well as reassigning a few other keys. This works fine and is much easier than changing the keymapping. Marshall On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Thanks Kevin. Keep me posted and may be write off list so as not to clutter everyone's boxes as others may be not interested. I'd need some detailed instructions in case I had to do anything. On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I found some data on remapping keys on the mac keyboard. Its a bit of a unix challenge and I am still working through the challenges of doing it. Based on my research. the Mac help key is the insert key on the standard keyboard. For macbooks and the keyboards minus a number pad, this key isn't available. I can't make any promises but I'll try and map an existing key to this key and script it. I haven't done any real unix scripting for 10 years or so and therefore, I'm real rusty at it. In the meantime, if someone comes up with something else, that'd be great. I remember the classic laptop keyboard configurations being an option in earlier versions of jaws but that doesn't seem to be available anymore. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Kev. Glad you have bought this subject up. I'm having the same problem. Some time ago, Mark Taylor wrote a message asking people to tell him how others got a jaws cursor. I'm having the same difficulty and need a jaws cursor. So if anyone can kindly tell us how they get around this problem, I'd be so grateful. I desperately need a jaws cursor. Sharp keys will not help me. Kawal. On Jun 26, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I'm running vmware fusion on my mac with windows 7. I'm having an issue getting jaws to recognize the caps lock key as the jaws key. When I try and use it in windows, it continues to recognize it as the caps lock key. Anyone have any ideas for resolution? Thanks, Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
RE: Windows on the mac question
Hi Brian. Could you give me instructions off list how to remap keys as you know by now I wish to have a jaws cursor. I am using Fusion but it doesn't matter where I put an insert key there is no jaws cursor. May be you might share it I don't know as another user is trying to do the same as me. Kawal. On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:55 -0400, Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com wrote: Yep. I use this, too. In Windows under VMWare, I remap the Windows insert key to be my right command key. That way, I can hold down right-command with my thumb to trigger Jaws keyboard shortcuts. I also swapped the left-command and left-option keys, so that the Windows and alt keys are in the normal position. Finally, I altered the reight-option key to be the Windows context key. Sharp Keys is just as useful to reorganize your keyboard in BootCamp. It works by editing the Windows keybaord map in the registry, so it works absolutely everywhere in Windows. You don't need to leave it running as a task tray app or anything like that. Just Google for it. It's popular, and is near the top of the list. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marshall Scott Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows on the mac question Hi, I' used SharpKeys to remap the tilde key to the Insert key as well as reassigning a few other keys. This works fine and is much easier than changing the keymapping. Marshall On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Thanks Kevin. Keep me posted and may be write off list so as not to clutter everyone's boxes as others may be not interested. I'd need some detailed instructions in case I had to do anything. On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I found some data on remapping keys on the mac keyboard. Its a bit of a unix challenge and I am still working through the challenges of doing it. Based on my research. the Mac help key is the insert key on the standard keyboard. For macbooks and the keyboards minus a number pad, this key isn't available. I can't make any promises but I'll try and map an existing key to this key and script it. I haven't done any real unix scripting for 10 years or so and therefore, I'm real rusty at it. In the meantime, if someone comes up with something else, that'd be great. I remember the classic laptop keyboard configurations being an option in earlier versions of jaws but that doesn't seem to be available anymore. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Kev. Glad you have bought this subject up. I'm having the same problem. Some time ago, Mark Taylor wrote a message asking people to tell him how others got a jaws cursor. I'm having the same difficulty and need a jaws cursor. So if anyone can kindly tell us how they get around this problem, I'd be so grateful. I desperately need a jaws cursor. Sharp keys will not help me. Kawal. On Jun 26, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I'm running vmware fusion on my mac with windows 7. I'm having an issue getting jaws to recognize the caps lock key as the jaws key. When I try and use it in windows, it continues to recognize it as the caps lock key. Anyone have any ideas for resolution? Thanks, Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are
Re: Pages09
Hello Paul, On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Pages09
Hi, Are you planning a user guide for iworks? If so will it be commerically available? I would love such a guide as would like to use pages etc more Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 28 June 2010 11:38 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pages09 Hello Paul, On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4
Skype works fine for me and I'm using the new phone with skype 2.0 On Jun 28, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't knwo how skype will be onteh new phone. I'm having plenty of issues. and I would wait until they update it to multy task or what ever it is called. S On Jun 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Guys, I'm picking up an iPhone in two weeks or so when they have more in. Does anyone have a recommendation for the best Skype app in IOS4? Is it possible to hear a tone when someone is skyping you with this new app? Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some IOS4 questions
I would say the sound may not be louder but as I said in the podcast it's crisper and the phone sounds like the lock unlock and mail are the volume that they should be On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi Donna, I can verify the advice given below, you do not need to reset the screen. Also I have not noticed the volume being softer. Which voice voiceover language you use? I use the Australian one as the British one sounds like she has a pillow over her face and a plum in her mouth, I mean its an iPod not and iPord! One thing I do hate about the speaker being on the bottom of the iphone with no grill is that it is so easy to cover it up with your hand whilst typing which results in blocking the sound. Is the sound louder on the iPhone 4 anyone? I am a deep sleeper so the iPhone 3GS does not wake me, my Nokia N96 was nice and loud though. Not sure if this is just me, but has anyone noticed that the battery seems to be better on standby than it was before? On 28 Jun 2010, at 03:21, Ricardo Walker wrote: Chris Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
Re: Pages09
Hello Anne. Thanks for your response. I'll play with Pages and numbers a little more. I also am a one to one member and can get help at my local Apple store. My goal is to learn from the trainers while sensitizing them to Voice Over and accessibility in general. If we can share tips and tricks as we go along, then we9'll all learn to use these applications. A user guide would be very helpful and I appreciate the time it takes to write one. Thanks so much. On Jun 28, 5:37 am, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Paul, On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Windows on the mac question
I'd take the instructions, if you can write them up. Kev On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Brian. Could you give me instructions off list how to remap keys as you know by now I wish to have a jaws cursor. I am using Fusion but it doesn't matter where I put an insert key there is no jaws cursor. May be you might share it I don't know as another user is trying to do the same as me. Kawal. On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:55 -0400, Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com wrote: Yep. I use this, too. In Windows under VMWare, I remap the Windows insert key to be my right command key. That way, I can hold down right-command with my thumb to trigger Jaws keyboard shortcuts. I also swapped the left-command and left-option keys, so that the Windows and alt keys are in the normal position. Finally, I altered the reight-option key to be the Windows context key. Sharp Keys is just as useful to reorganize your keyboard in BootCamp. It works by editing the Windows keybaord map in the registry, so it works absolutely everywhere in Windows. You don't need to leave it running as a task tray app or anything like that. Just Google for it. It's popular, and is near the top of the list. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marshall Scott Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows on the mac question Hi, I' used SharpKeys to remap the tilde key to the Insert key as well as reassigning a few other keys. This works fine and is much easier than changing the keymapping. Marshall On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Thanks Kevin. Keep me posted and may be write off list so as not to clutter everyone's boxes as others may be not interested. I'd need some detailed instructions in case I had to do anything. On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I found some data on remapping keys on the mac keyboard. Its a bit of a unix challenge and I am still working through the challenges of doing it. Based on my research. the Mac help key is the insert key on the standard keyboard. For macbooks and the keyboards minus a number pad, this key isn't available. I can't make any promises but I'll try and map an existing key to this key and script it. I haven't done any real unix scripting for 10 years or so and therefore, I'm real rusty at it. In the meantime, if someone comes up with something else, that'd be great. I remember the classic laptop keyboard configurations being an option in earlier versions of jaws but that doesn't seem to be available anymore. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Kev. Glad you have bought this subject up. I'm having the same problem. Some time ago, Mark Taylor wrote a message asking people to tell him how others got a jaws cursor. I'm having the same difficulty and need a jaws cursor. So if anyone can kindly tell us how they get around this problem, I'd be so grateful. I desperately need a jaws cursor. Sharp keys will not help me. Kawal. On Jun 26, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I'm running vmware fusion on my mac with windows 7. I'm having an issue getting jaws to recognize the caps lock key as the jaws key. When I try and use it in windows, it continues to recognize it as the caps lock key. Anyone have any ideas for resolution? Thanks, Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are
Re: some IOS4 questions
Never hurts to ask. Yes, I did. Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:27 AM, Chris Moore wrote: I am on a iPhone EGS, stupid question but you have tried turning the phone up right? Sorry On 28 Jun 2010, at 09:31, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Chris, Yep, I had to figure the folder thing out the hard way. Ah well, the joys of a new OS. :) At least now I know how folders work. Interesting re the volume. For me, there's a noticeable difference. Are you on an iphone 4 or a 3gs? I'm on the latter, don't know if that is the difference. Best, Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi Donna, I can verify the advice given below, you do not need to reset the screen. Also I have not noticed the volume being softer. Which voice voiceover language you use? I use the Australian one as the British one sounds like she has a pillow over her face and a plum in her mouth, I mean its an iPod not and iPord! One thing I do hate about the speaker being on the bottom of the iphone with no grill is that it is so easy to cover it up with your hand whilst typing which results in blocking the sound. Is the sound louder on the iPhone 4 anyone? I am a deep sleeper so the iPhone 3GS does not wake me, my Nokia N96 was nice and loud though. Not sure if this is just me, but has anyone noticed that the battery seems to be better on standby than it was before? On 28 Jun 2010, at 03:21, Ricardo Walker wrote: Chris Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
To be honest, I want a macbook first. I just got this mini last month and felt guilty for it then. I think having another Mac mini for use with the television would be a great idea though. I have a friend who uses his own computers as a direct TV receiver and the mini might be an option for that as well. Eventually you could save the cost of the mini doing this. Kev On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:32 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Ha ha! good man, so getting back on topic and away from my personal life (grin), you gonna buy one? On 28 Jun 2010, at 01:34, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Sure Chris, hide behind one of those names that leave you anonymous. Now I know coach, Anthropology and such things are in your vocabulary. Good advice though and coming from someone on the other team, I'll take the wisdom. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Chris Moore wrote: yes, but sadly as I play for the other team I would probably keep hitting on he husbands lol On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
RE: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi Do bear in mind that it can be the speech synth dying. Try another speech synth and see if you still have the same problems. Cheers Dave From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4 Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook http://www.facebook.com/chojiro Twitter http://www.twitter.com/chojiro Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, I already have. I switched between Alex and the Infovox iVox voices to test that theory. Besides, that would also be something introduced in the update as that problem was not there before regardless of the synthesizer. I went ahead and tried it anyway, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Dave Taylor wrote: Hi Do bear in mind that it can be the speech synth dying. Try another speech synth and see if you still have the same problems. Cheers Dave From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4 Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone
I Never payed attention to the lighting conditions. I will make sure some lights are turned on and sea what happens. Doug Sent from my iPhone On 2010-06-28, at 5:06 AM, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: You tried in good lighting conditions? I must admit I find it a bit hit and miss so don't think I will use it much. As for labels I will stick with my RNIB Pen Friend Audio Labeller (it was only £50) and never fails. On 28 Jun 2010, at 02:03, Doug Lawlor wrote: I purchased the Digit Eyes app and have not had any success in scanning items so far. I even tried turning the phone on it's side and holding the phone a couple of inches away from the item in question. Still no luck with it. I am going to buy the labels they've recommend on there site to sea if I can get the app to scan the audio labels they are talking about. The company doesn't mention if you need any special software to print these labels. I think I will contact the company tomorrow to find out how to go about printing these. . . Doug Sent from my iPhone On 2010-06-27, at 12:31 PM, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote: It's not a laser camera. It's just a laser barcode reader, and in my opinion they over charge for the thing. I am not going to commit to anything here. But if I can get ahold of a bluetooth barcode reader, the laser type, I would like to port an app that I wrote for the Icon/Braille Plus that does exactly the same thing. The issue is that a BT reader usually runs around $300 and that price point is still too high in my opinion. I would really like for the entry point to be in the 100 to 150 dollar range. I have been wondering why the Digit-Eyes folks haven't considered this approach. It would not be very difficult to make it a setting to either use the camera or the scanner to grab the barcode and then query their database. Hell, I would even contemplate the $30 cost of the software and the $300 cost of a scanner if it had that functionality. Just my thoughts. Keith But if I can find On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I have managed to scan a few things with sighted assistance. I will do a podcast tomorrow on it. I think you have to wait for a minute or two for Digit-eyes to come back with a positive ID. I didn't know the ID Mate had a lazar camera that makes sense why it's so expensive. there is a trick with Digit-Eyes according to my Mom. You have to hold the phone on it's side and make sure the screen curtain is turned off. If you hold it a few inches away from the item you're trying to scan you will get better results that way or so I've found with the few things I tried. Allison On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No not really, it is tricky, if you have a enough sight to see where the barcode is then you have a bit more success. It has been hit and miss with me and to be honest by the time I have managed to get it to read a barcode I have placed the item under my iPal Solo to have it read instead. I I have not used the ID mate in person, but I guess the 3D camera would explain its hight price. If you have no vision at all it is very difficult to locate the barcode, so this solution is not ideal, unless there was a ruling to say where barcodes can always be found. Let's hope the OCR solutions for the iPhone are more successful. But the barcode reader is not totally useless as I did manage to scan some things. On 27 Jun 2010, at 07:16, Bryan Smart wrote: With Digit-Eyes, how do you find the bar code? When I was involved with the development of an accessible bar code system a few years back, cameras didn't do a good job. For the bar code recognition to work, the camera couldn't face the bar code at an angle, at it had to be right-side-up. Of course, a blind person doesn't necessarily know where on the box, can, or bottle the bar code is to be found, so that creates a challenge. That's partly why the ID Mate is so expensive. They must use a 3D laser scanner, like is used in the check-out line at a grocery store. Those perform an active scan, and can register bar codes at any angle, and even on curved surfaces. You can basically hold up the scanner and turn the container in front of the camera, and it will automatically scan the bar code as soon as it's visible, regardless of the bar code's orientation. My thoughts were that the iPhone app would be like trying to read a bar code with a CCD scanner. Yes, it would work but only if you knew where to find the bar code, which way was right-side-up, and only if the bar code was on a flat surface. Is it better than that? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Pages09
Hi, I for one would be happy to pay as it would really help me make the final shift away from windows to Mac for everything that I do which is what I want - I dislike using two systems. Good luck with the task - would offer to help but my french is not good enough to do a translation! Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 28 June 2010 14:08 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pages09 Hello Julie, I'm hoping to produce a user guide for iWork09, but it all depends on time. Part of it is already done, but it's in French as France is where I live and teach VoiceOver. I'll let the list know when the guide is available and I think we will have to charge a small fee for it. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:00 PM, RATTRAY J. wrote: Hi, Are you planning a user guide for iworks? If so will it be commerically available? I would love such a guide as would like to use pages etc more Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 28 June 2010 11:38 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pages09 Hello Paul, On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Never mind that. Looking on the volume itself and not just the user directory, I see a lot of VoiceOver crash reports. I take back my statement. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi Nic, This has happened to me quite frequently as well. VO crashed yesterday during a podcast I was recording. It's quite annoying and it takes me a few presses of command F5 to get it going again. Allison On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
I've been seeing it a lot more so in safari not really else where. On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, In that case, you might want to try the latest Webkit engine from http://www.webkit.org A lot of those crashes are probably related to the engine itself, and it tends to fix a lot of them as that engine is up-to-date and continuously being patched. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: I've been seeing it a lot more so in safari not really else where. On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hello Nic, I have a few crash reports, but nothing like the number there should be to reflect the times that VO goes silent on me. The past week only shows about half a dozen crashes. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Never mind that. Looking on the volume itself and not just the user directory, I see a lot of VoiceOver crash reports. I take back my statement. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, I guess I'm better off, then. I have one report from today, reflecting the time it crashed as well. I guess I can at least send that off. I'd like to see it crash once more at least. It might make it easier to see if there's something similar between the occurrence of the crashes. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I have a few crash reports, but nothing like the number there should be to reflect the times that VO goes silent on me. The past week only shows about half a dozen crashes. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Never mind that. Looking on the volume itself and not just the user directory, I see a lot of VoiceOver crash reports. I take back my statement. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Was Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor now remote
On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Snip... Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. Any iThing can remotely control an iTunes library which is what the Apple tv is. It is rumored that Apple will be releasing a new Apple tv shortly and for less cost. I sure hope this is the truth for I need to buy two of them to continue the way we watch tv in my house. Currently I have an airport express the remote app on the iPhone and iTunes running on the mini and it's awesome connected up to my 1962 Eico st-40. The sound of tube amplification is so wonderful when it's done right. Search the app store for remote. When you find the free one from Apple, install it and enjoy. --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some IOS4 questions
How do you create folders? Purposely, that is LOL! Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower, Steve Jobs On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hello Søren, I can restart speech when mine crashes by pressing VO-F5 4 times. However, these are the crashes that leave no trace. When VO crashes completely, it restarts itself and leaves a log entry. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari Reader Doesn't Seem to Get Along Wih Braille Displays?
Hi Annie and all, Yes, I notice the display problem in form fields, too. With Reader, the display seems to get locked into the tool bar, no matter which control I attempt to interact with. Teresa On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. I do not understand that. There is some problems with safari and braille at the moment, but I can normally read in HTML areas. Does your display not show anything at all, sometimes it helps me to interact with the text. I have problems when I write in a form field, if it is a mail on gmail or another long text, I can not see that on my display, only some of it. Best regards Annie. 2010/6/28, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com: Hi, All, I have cursor tracking on, and when trying to use my Focus 40 Blue display with the Safari 5 reader, I can't get it to display 'any of the text, even when I interact with HTML content. Is there any way to resolve this? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Where do I find the log entry? When my Vo crashes, it crashes completely and I can't get speech when pressing command f5. I've waited for more than a hour when listening to an audiobook to see if that helped, but I couldn't start VO again... It doesn't happen very often, but it have gone more wors after I've upgraded to 10.5.4. if VO just died for 10 seconds or maybe two minutes, I could live with it. But I hate when it completely dies! Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:45 PM skrev Anne Robertson: Hello Søren, I can restart speech when mine crashes by pressing VO-F5 4 times. However, these are the crashes that leave no trace. When VO crashes completely, it restarts itself and leaves a log entry. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, They're usually in ~/library/logs/CrashReporter and library/logs/CrashReporter. They're all timestamped as well. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Where do I find the log entry? When my Vo crashes, it crashes completely and I can't get speech when pressing command f5. I've waited for more than a hour when listening to an audiobook to see if that helped, but I couldn't start VO again... It doesn't happen very often, but it have gone more wors after I've upgraded to 10.5.4. if VO just died for 10 seconds or maybe two minutes, I could live with it. But I hate when it completely dies! Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:45 PM skrev Anne Robertson: Hello Søren, I can restart speech when mine crashes by pressing VO-F5 4 times. However, these are the crashes that leave no trace. When VO crashes completely, it restarts itself and leaves a log entry. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some IOS4 questions
Well, you just take one of the apps that you want to put in the folder, and move it on top of another app that you want to have in that same folder. What I haven't quite sorted out yet, is that sometimes this creates a folder, which is what's supposed to happen, I think. But at other times, the two apps just trade places. This can be kind of handy too, I just wish I knew what caused it to do one thing or the other. Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: How do you create folders? Purposely, that is LOL! Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower, Steve Jobs On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some IOS4 questions
You need to hear vo say that the icon your dragging is on top of the other icon, otherwise it will report the row/column coordinates and just move rather than make a folder On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, you just take one of the apps that you want to put in the folder, and move it on top of another app that you want to have in that same folder. What I haven't quite sorted out yet, is that sometimes this creates a folder, which is what's supposed to happen, I think. But at other times, the two apps just trade places. This can be kind of handy too, I just wish I knew what caused it to do one thing or the other. Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: How do you create folders? Purposely, that is LOL! Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower, Steve Jobs On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
Is Saytext available?
Hi all, I have seen several posts about scanning with Saytext. Is is out? Thanks again for all your help. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Was Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor now remote
Thanks for that, but what I was meaning I am unable to use my cable box now as i can no longer read the on screen menus which control TV on demand and the EPG etc. I have a Virgin V+ box with 160GB hard drive installed. It would be useful if Virgin would update their software to enable the user interface to have Text to Speech, but I can't see it happening. So a good compromise would be to enable the iPhone to log into my Virgin account and access the cable box remotely enabling voice over to control the cable box. On 28 Jun 2010, at 1 If Apple update their Apple TV box, I would hope to find some actual TV features that enable hard disk recording and access to a digital TV guide. On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Snip... Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. Any iThing can remotely control an iTunes library which is what the Apple tv is. It is rumored that Apple will be releasing a new Apple tv shortly and for less cost. I sure hope this is the truth for I need to buy two of them to continue the way we watch tv in my house. Currently I have an airport express the remote app on the iPhone and iTunes running on the mini and it's awesome connected up to my 1962 Eico st-40. The sound of tube amplification is so wonderful when it's done right. Search the app store for remote. When you find the free one from Apple, install it and enjoy. --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some IOS4 questions
I'll have to pay more attention. I am pretty sure that it did say that one icon was on top of the other, though. Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: You need to hear vo say that the icon your dragging is on top of the other icon, otherwise it will report the row/column coordinates and just move rather than make a folder On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, you just take one of the apps that you want to put in the folder, and move it on top of another app that you want to have in that same folder. What I haven't quite sorted out yet, is that sometimes this creates a folder, which is what's supposed to happen, I think. But at other times, the two apps just trade places. This can be kind of handy too, I just wish I knew what caused it to do one thing or the other. Donna On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: How do you create folders? Purposely, that is LOL! Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower, Steve Jobs On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this
Re: some IOS4 questions
By dragging an app on top of another app, a folder will automatically be created. You are not able to create folders manually. On 28 Jun 2010, at 14:45, Olivia Norman wrote: How do you create folders? Purposely, that is LOL! Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower, Steve Jobs On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Photo Descriptions
Since the introduction of iOS 4.0 I have been enjoying the introduction of wallpaper with voiceover descriptions, despite the new wallpapers not being as nice as the previous OS release. But it got me thinking Today someone from work sent me a text message asking for a picture of my guide dog for his son. I thought ok no problem but then I realised that I have a number of photos on my iPhone that I can no longer see. Here is a perfect example of when I could have done with some sort of description added to each of my photos so I knew I was sending a picture of my dog and not the cat (not that I have a cat, but you get my drift). This would also be useful for blind parents or grand parents who wish to show pictures of the family to friends and be able to control what people are looking at in their photo album. I can appreciate for some of this sighted assistance may be required when first labelling pictures, but I am interested to know what other group members think. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, That happens to me when I'm reading tweets and mail messages. It's really weird. You're not the only one. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO V4.0: some contributions
In data Lunedě 28 Giugno 2010 15.40.11, Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com ha scritto: Hi. I really like the braille suggestions as braille is very important to me and at present my display will only read in grade 1 even though I've done the necessary adjustments for it to read grade II. Thank you. In facts, as things stand now in MacOsX, the Braille just mirrors the TTS. :-( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Photo Descriptions
As you might know, there is title and description tags in jpg and other picture files, that you can use for this purpose. If you buy pictures from Crestock for example, they are all described in detail by using these fields. So, when you add pictures to iPhoto, you can browse or search based on the description tag, or add your own description. If you do so, the description will appear when you add your photo to devices or services that uses this tag. When you for example see a description of a picture on a web page, or on your iOS device, the info comes from this tag. You can see if there is added a title or description to a jpg file by pressing control-I when focused on a file in Finder on a Mac for example. HTH John André On 28. juni 2010, at 16.17, Chris Moore wrote: Since the introduction of iOS 4.0 I have been enjoying the introduction of wallpaper with voiceover descriptions, despite the new wallpapers not being as nice as the previous OS release. But it got me thinking Today someone from work sent me a text message asking for a picture of my guide dog for his son. I thought ok no problem but then I realised that I have a number of photos on my iPhone that I can no longer see. Here is a perfect example of when I could have done with some sort of description added to each of my photos so I knew I was sending a picture of my dog and not the cat (not that I have a cat, but you get my drift). This would also be useful for blind parents or grand parents who wish to show pictures of the family to friends and be able to control what people are looking at in their photo album. I can appreciate for some of this sighted assistance may be required when first labelling pictures, but I am interested to know what other group members think. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
If voice over doesn't come up on its own after a crash, starting up the voice over practice guide with control option command f8 then exiting out of there will work pretty much every time here. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Photo Descriptions
Sadly though the camera and photo gallery on the iPhone do not support this at present, but my point is I know this is possible. On 28 Jun 2010, at 16:05, John André Netland wrote: As you might know, there is title and description tags in jpg and other picture files, that you can use for this purpose. If you buy pictures from Crestock for example, they are all described in detail by using these fields. So, when you add pictures to iPhoto, you can browse or search based on the description tag, or add your own description. If you do so, the description will appear when you add your photo to devices or services that uses this tag. When you for example see a description of a picture on a web page, or on your iOS device, the info comes from this tag. You can see if there is added a title or description to a jpg file by pressing control-I when focused on a file in Finder on a Mac for example. HTH John André On 28. juni 2010, at 16.17, Chris Moore wrote: Since the introduction of iOS 4.0 I have been enjoying the introduction of wallpaper with voiceover descriptions, despite the new wallpapers not being as nice as the previous OS release. But it got me thinking Today someone from work sent me a text message asking for a picture of my guide dog for his son. I thought ok no problem but then I realised that I have a number of photos on my iPhone that I can no longer see. Here is a perfect example of when I could have done with some sort of description added to each of my photos so I knew I was sending a picture of my dog and not the cat (not that I have a cat, but you get my drift). This would also be useful for blind parents or grand parents who wish to show pictures of the family to friends and be able to control what people are looking at in their photo album. I can appreciate for some of this sighted assistance may be required when first labelling pictures, but I am interested to know what other group members think. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO to Audio
Hi, Wow! I didn't know this is possible. So is this how it works, for example, I type up some notes I need to study for a class. If I render it to an audio file, would I be able to play the whole thing on my Ipod or something? Sorry for the slight off-topicness. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I am trying to remember the command for making VO render its speech to audio files. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO to Audio
yeah. I did it before, but don't remember how I did it. maybe I have to vo shift m and see if its in there... I was wondering if there was a short cut key, if not, I will make one. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Wow! I didn't know this is possible. So is this how it works, for example, I type up some notes I need to study for a class. If I render it to an audio file, would I be able to play the whole thing on my Ipod or something? Sorry for the slight off-topicness. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I am trying to remember the command for making VO render its speech to audio files. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
mine will freeze up when there is an alert. I then have to kill VO then bring it up again. Its kind of slow doing that, but it does come back, then I can read the alert. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VO to Audio
I am trying to remember the command for making VO render its speech to audio files. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is Saytext available?
Hi, They told me about a week, last thursday. Its with Apple and awaiting approval. I can't wait either. Hopefully only 3 days to go. :) Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I have seen several posts about scanning with Saytext. Is is out? Thanks again for all your help. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is Saytext available?
I just checked the app store and there is no sign of the app in Canada. Doug Sent from my iPhone On 2010-06-28, at 11:44 AM, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have seen several posts about scanning with Saytext. Is is out? Thanks again for all your help. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO to Audio
It is vo shift Z On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I am trying to remember the command for making VO render its speech to audio files. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO to Audio
Hi, I tried it, but it won't say the whole file. Is there any way to make it record the whole file to audio? Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: It is vo shift Z On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I am trying to remember the command for making VO render its speech to audio files. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO to Audio
drat you beat me to it, however don't make the same mistake as me when I was trying to find it in keyboard help mode. I hit control + option + command + F12 ! On 28 Jun 2010, at 17:49, Cody Hurst wrote: It is vo shift Z On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I am trying to remember the command for making VO render its speech to audio files. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO to Audio
Maybe you have to select the hole thing? I don't know how that works. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I tried it, but it won't say the whole file. Is there any way to make it record the whole file to audio? Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: It is vo shift Z On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I am trying to remember the command for making VO render its speech to audio files. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO to Audio
Thanks... GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: It is vo shift Z On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I am trying to remember the command for making VO render its speech to audio files. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it to an in-line table. On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Paul, On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hi, My mini is one of the newer ones, purchased it last June. It is the one where I have the monitor connected and the mini works fine. The monitor is not plugged in to AC power. On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:07:46 -0400 Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Is Saytext available?
I think some time this week or next week... GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: I just checked the app store and there is no sign of the app in Canada. Doug Sent from my iPhone On 2010-06-28, at 11:44 AM, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have seen several posts about scanning with Saytext. Is is out? Thanks again for all your help. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Focus blue and pressing delete.
Hi all. When typing away on a focus blue display attached via bluetooth to my Imac, I seem not to find a key keycombination that can delete what I have written. No forward or backward delete. And I cannot figure out how to assign a braille key to that function. Any help would b be greatly appreciatedThank you, Jesper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
turning pages with Ibooks on Iphone
Hi all, I just downloaded the Ibooks app for the iPhone this morning. I purchased Pete Fornatale's book Back to the Garden and was trying to read the intro. How do you go to the next page? I tap and hold the page chooser like the spoken hint instructs, but when I try to swipe left or right, nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? I know some of you have experience with this app, and probably know the answer to this. Thank you again for your assistance. I have learned a lot from you already. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is Saytext available?
Hi all, thank you so much. I will keep checking, I thought maybe I missed it. Allison On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: I just checked the app store and there is no sign of the app in Canada. Doug Sent from my iPhone On 2010-06-28, at 11:44 AM, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have seen several posts about scanning with Saytext. Is is out? Thanks again for all your help. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Just in case though, for those who get the crashes, I sent in my two crash reports I got today just to see if they can do something with it. It's happening a lot more in 10.6.4 than I care to count. At least, it is for me. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote: I've found that after an alert message, VoiceOver does indeed freeze up even though the audio cues still work. The best way to regain control of VoiceOver is to press the escape key. Hope this helps. On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:26 AM, clarence griffin wrote: mine will freeze up when there is an alert. I then have to kill VO then bring it up again. Its kind of slow doing that, but it does come back, then I can read the alert. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Re: Is Saytext available?
Nope not yet. shoudl be out wiht in a week or 2 according to the dev. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I have seen several posts about scanning with Saytext. Is is out? Thanks again for all your help. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4
Oh why is everything have no issues with skype except me. Mine lags makes the phoen unusable and lags teable whenI flick between choices and voice over crackes so bad I can't understand it. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:29 AM, Earle wrote: I am using the Skype app on my 3gs, and it's working fine. I love this app, and I can't wait until they update it and take advantage of multi-tasking. I use this app daily, and have experienced very few problems with it. Earle msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca twitter and facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 2:39 AM Subject: Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4 I don't knwo how skype will be onteh new phone. I'm having plenty of issues. and I would wait until they update it to multy task or what ever it is called. S On Jun 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Guys, I'm picking up an iPhone in two weeks or so when they have more in. Does anyone have a recommendation for the best Skype app in IOS4? Is it possible to hear a tone when someone is skyping you with this new app? Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: turning pages with Ibooks on Iphone
Hi, You can Do a 3 finger swipe left or right like when going through your home pages of apps or, when on the page chooser just flick up or down with 1 finger. hth On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I just downloaded the Ibooks app for the iPhone this morning. I purchased Pete Fornatale's book Back to the Garden and was trying to read the intro. How do you go to the next page? I tap and hold the page chooser like the spoken hint instructs, but when I try to swipe left or right, nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? I know some of you have experience with this app, and probably know the answer to this. Thank you again for your assistance. I have learned a lot from you already. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: converting DVD
Hi Larry, I was hoping that Annie or someone else who has used this recently would respond, but I'd suggest you try Metakine's DVD Remaster or Remaster Pro program: http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/ You may want the Pro version, which preserves more multiple audio tracks, and also lets you separate off either audio or video tracks (although it doesn't sound as though this would be a requirement for your). This processes movies at least 3 times faster than Handbrake, apart from the other options. The interface is very accessible. I can't speak from direct experience, because I don't do much movie watching or ripping. However, this was extensively discussed on the Mac-access list last year, and one of the list members contacted the developer to make what was already an extremely accessible product work even better with VoiceOver. So, when Annie asked for a recommendation on this list, I suggested this product, and I think she's been fairly happy with it. I'll just state that this seems to be the DVD conversion application of choice among people who do this en masse on the Mac-access list. It costs $39.99 for the regular version and $49.99 for the pro version, with free trial downloads so that you can check this out for yourself. HTH, and maybe some other list members who use this can comment. Cheers, Esther On Jun 27, 2010, Larry Wanger wrote: Hi, Can someone point me to software that I can use to convert DVD to MP4 or another file format that I can use. My wife has several DVDs she owns that have arobic workouts on them and, as she will be traveling quite a bit in the near future, she wants to end up being able to use the air video app on the iPad to watch them. This application plays many video file formats and my real issue is finding a Mac product that will capture the audio/video and copy it to my computer hard drive. Thanks for any help with this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: turning pages with Ibooks on Iphone
Hi Allison, In addition to turning pages as Ricardo described, you can also read continuously by using the two finger flick down once you've touched a line of text so as to establish focus in that area. Unless you have some reason to read page by page, you may find this a lot more convenient, sunce the pages on an Ipod display are rather short. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Answering a few questions about Daisy Bookworm for iPhone
Bryan, owning a VRS and a Book SEnse, I adamantly concur. Yeah, I know it's gadget overload, but I'll never need to buy a car with said payments being more than the price of one of these gadgets every month. I suppose that's how I justify the expense. LOL! I have put audiobooks on my iPod Touch, but I still enjoy listening to them on the Stream or Book Sense more. Like you, I can also operate these gadgets flawlessly while half asleep. As a matter of fact, I don't believe there is a designated sleep button on the iPod Touch or the iPhone for use while listening to books which, for me, is a necessity. Choice is the key here though. Different strokes for different folks! n Jun 27, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Well, a Windows user might say that they can purchase a computer, far more powerful than your Mac, and for less money, so why waste money on a Mac? Or many people wonder why people bother buying iPhones, when the new Android phones far outclass the iPhone in terms of specs and open operation? Cost isn't always the point, though. I don't want to sound like I'm down on them making this program. I might buy it. Actually, I wonder why I'm arguing this on a listserv, anyway. I know that many blind tech people are rightly down on some of the over-priced specialized blindness gadgets. But, seriously, this isn't a $5,000 note taker. Most of the book readers aren't much more than $300. That is damn cheap for a device that is optimized to be controlled with buttons and speech feedback, rather than using touch-screen gestures to review and control a visually-optimized interface. You're waiting for NLS support, which they may never provide. Meanwhile, the Stream works with NLS, RFBD, newsline, practically all other major talking book libraries in the world, DVS movies from places like SamNet, plays Daisy audio books in both MP3 and 3GP audio formats (which this probably won't ever play, so probably no NLS support), plays commercial audio books (including Audible), plays books that you rip from CD yourself as books with all book features (bookmarks, notes, highlighting, etc) still in effect (not just loading MP3s in to a media player), reads Daisy books in text format, reads HTML and plane text with full book navigation and note taking features, plays MP3, OGG, and uncompressed music, and a bunch of other stuff, for 15+ hours at a stretch (no add-on battery pack required), for $300. And it operates so simply that you don't need hardly any sort of instruction to use it, and, without even using this app, I can state with certainty that no iPhone app is ever going to allow me to zip through menus like I can on a dedicated device. I can work it half asleep, which I often do. These little devices are really something for $300. So, just like getting a Mac instead of Windows, or an iPhone instead of a Droid, you're buying it not because it's the rock-bottom option in terms of cost, but because of the optimized user experience, and the fact that it just works. Anyway, all this to make the point that, regardless of software, my prediction is that, with no dedicated hardware for decrypting books, and no hardware support for decoding the audio formats that some of them use, all of that will be running in software, constantly running the CPU at max, sucking down battery power, and you'll be lucky to get 4 hours out of a stock battery before the phone goes from full charge to fully dead. Maybe a battery pack could stretch it to 8. Even so, it will support far less content, and the interface will be far slower to operate. I don't think that translates in to a good book player. I hope that they can prove me wrong. I'd probably be willing to trade off some of the stream's long run-time and sacrifice its great interface, if the iPhone app would actually do more than a digital book player. Right now it does less in every regard. What I'd like to see is this app become a blind version of Netflix, offering content on demand. If you could start this reader app, and browse/stream content from various providers like the talking book libraries, Bookshare, etc, then I'd consider it superior. That would also get rid of the whole overhead of having to make sure your phone and computer are on the same Wi-Fi network (this isn't always possible), and upload books to your phone over FTP. Basically, these guys should stop trying to think about how to port a desktop Daisy book reader to the iPhone, which is what they've done so far, and start thinking of this like a rich client, which is how most all of the other media apps on the iPhone operate. Just imagine how not fun Netflix would be if you had to log on from your PC, find and download a movie, get your phone and PC on the same hotspot, and upload the movie to your phone. There is no way most people would bother with that. They want to have an
RE: some IOS4 questions
They probably fixed the sampling rate issue. The Vocalizer voices normally play at a low sampling rate. For some reason, that caused the system and VoiceOver audio cues to play at that sample rate, also. You can easily check this out without iOS 4. Lock the phone or iPad. Turn off VoiceOver. Wait about 10 seconds, until the speaker has stopped hissing, and the audio device has reset. Now, unlock the phone. The unlock sound will have much more high frequency sound than before. That's because it is playing at its normal, higher, sampling rate. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: some IOS4 questions I would say the sound may not be louder but as I said in the podcast it's crisper and the phone sounds like the lock unlock and mail are the volume that they should be On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi Donna, I can verify the advice given below, you do not need to reset the screen. Also I have not noticed the volume being softer. Which voice voiceover language you use? I use the Australian one as the British one sounds like she has a pillow over her face and a plum in her mouth, I mean its an iPod not and iPord! One thing I do hate about the speaker being on the bottom of the iphone with no grill is that it is so easy to cover it up with your hand whilst typing which results in blocking the sound. Is the sound louder on the iPhone 4 anyone? I am a deep sleeper so the iPhone 3GS does not wake me, my Nokia N96 was nice and loud though. Not sure if this is just me, but has anyone noticed that the battery seems to be better on standby than it was before? On 28 Jun 2010, at 03:21, Ricardo Walker wrote: Chris Lol, No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete itself. hth On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, though, I wonder why it does that. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and stuff there. Good luck. s On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are
Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4
Ok Just made a recording of me trying to use skype and the iphone 3gs using the may 29th update of skype. S Here it is. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/skype_issues_on_iphone_3gs.m4a Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: Skype works fine for me and I'm using the new phone with skype 2.0 On Jun 28, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't knwo how skype will be onteh new phone. I'm having plenty of issues. and I would wait until they update it to multy task or what ever it is called. S On Jun 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Guys, I'm picking up an iPhone in two weeks or so when they have more in. Does anyone have a recommendation for the best Skype app in IOS4? Is it possible to hear a tone when someone is skyping you with this new app? Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Answering a few questions about Daisy Bookworm for iPhone
Sleep button for audiobooks? What does this do? On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: Bryan, owning a VRS and a Book SEnse, I adamantly concur. Yeah, I know it's gadget overload, but I'll never need to buy a car with said payments being more than the price of one of these gadgets every month. I suppose that's how I justify the expense. LOL! I have put audiobooks on my iPod Touch, but I still enjoy listening to them on the Stream or Book Sense more. Like you, I can also operate these gadgets flawlessly while half asleep. As a matter of fact, I don't believe there is a designated sleep button on the iPod Touch or the iPhone for use while listening to books which, for me, is a necessity. Choice is the key here though. Different strokes for different folks! n Jun 27, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Well, a Windows user might say that they can purchase a computer, far more powerful than your Mac, and for less money, so why waste money on a Mac? Or many people wonder why people bother buying iPhones, when the new Android phones far outclass the iPhone in terms of specs and open operation? Cost isn't always the point, though. I don't want to sound like I'm down on them making this program. I might buy it. Actually, I wonder why I'm arguing this on a listserv, anyway. I know that many blind tech people are rightly down on some of the over-priced specialized blindness gadgets. But, seriously, this isn't a $5,000 note taker. Most of the book readers aren't much more than $300. That is damn cheap for a device that is optimized to be controlled with buttons and speech feedback, rather than using touch-screen gestures to review and control a visually-optimized interface. You're waiting for NLS support, which they may never provide. Meanwhile, the Stream works with NLS, RFBD, newsline, practically all other major talking book libraries in the world, DVS movies from places like SamNet, plays Daisy audio books in both MP3 and 3GP audio formats (which this probably won't ever play, so probably no NLS support), plays commercial audio books (including Audible), plays books that you rip from CD yourself as books with all book features (bookmarks, notes, highlighting, etc) still in effect (not just loading MP3s in to a media player), reads Daisy books in text format, reads HTML and plane text with full book navigation and note taking features, plays MP3, OGG, and uncompressed music, and a bunch of other stuff, for 15+ hours at a stretch (no add-on battery pack required), for $300. And it operates so simply that you don't need hardly any sort of instruction to use it, and, without even using this app, I can state with certainty that no iPhone app is ever going to allow me to zip through menus like I can on a dedicated device. I can work it half asleep, which I often do. These little devices are really something for $300. So, just like getting a Mac instead of Windows, or an iPhone instead of a Droid, you're buying it not because it's the rock-bottom option in terms of cost, but because of the optimized user experience, and the fact that it just works. Anyway, all this to make the point that, regardless of software, my prediction is that, with no dedicated hardware for decrypting books, and no hardware support for decoding the audio formats that some of them use, all of that will be running in software, constantly running the CPU at max, sucking down battery power, and you'll be lucky to get 4 hours out of a stock battery before the phone goes from full charge to fully dead. Maybe a battery pack could stretch it to 8. Even so, it will support far less content, and the interface will be far slower to operate. I don't think that translates in to a good book player. I hope that they can prove me wrong. I'd probably be willing to trade off some of the stream's long run-time and sacrifice its great interface, if the iPhone app would actually do more than a digital book player. Right now it does less in every regard. What I'd like to see is this app become a blind version of Netflix, offering content on demand. If you could start this reader app, and browse/stream content from various providers like the talking book libraries, Bookshare, etc, then I'd consider it superior. That would also get rid of the whole overhead of having to make sure your phone and computer are on the same Wi-Fi network (this isn't always possible), and upload books to your phone over FTP. Basically, these guys should stop trying to think about how to port a desktop Daisy book reader to the iPhone, which is what they've done so far, and start thinking of this like a rich client, which is how most all of the other media apps on the iPhone operate. Just imagine how not fun Netflix would be if you had to log on from your PC, find and download a movie, get your phone and PC on the same
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
This doesn't exactly involve the video driver. The driver for your video card is fine. It just can't find an attached monitor, so can't report to OS X what display resolutions are available on it. I don't think that a dummy driver is likely. On the Mac, you don't select video drivers. If your card is supported, the OS uses it, if not, well it doesn't. The driver for the card detects the monitor. I don't even know how Apple would go about allowing you to select some custom driver. They go out of their way to prevent people from having to select and/or manage drivers. So, making any change like that wouldn't be a simple fix. They'd have to add some new screens and options to the Display preferences, probably, and that can't be undertaken without a lot of departments becoming involved. Since the problem only affects a very few users, and those users have a very inexpensive solution (plug in a monitor), I don't think that they'll spend money and time on changing it. Really, you people that want a portable, need a MacBook. They're around $1,000, which is what you'd pay after upgrading a Mini, anyway. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
For a dongle, you'd need to have something custom-made, as there isn't anything right now that I know of. Besides that, you'd need the mini displayport to VGA adaptor from Apple. By the time you got through buying those, you could have purchased a small LCD monitor for the same price. If the point is to be compact, and not to save money, then you can buy a basic MacBook for about the same money. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to
RE: Windows on the mac question
This is very simple. When you run the program, it has a list of keys that you've mapped, which will start off empty. You press the add button. A screen comes up with a listbox for the source key, and another for the key to remap it to. You make your selections and press OK. When you've mapped all of the keys that you want, you press the write to registry button. Very simple. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 6:14 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Windows on the mac question Hi Brian. Could you give me instructions off list how to remap keys as you know by now I wish to have a jaws cursor. I am using Fusion but it doesn't matter where I put an insert key there is no jaws cursor. May be you might share it I don't know as another user is trying to do the same as me. Kawal. On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:55 -0400, Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com wrote: Yep. I use this, too. In Windows under VMWare, I remap the Windows insert key to be my right command key. That way, I can hold down right-command with my thumb to trigger Jaws keyboard shortcuts. I also swapped the left-command and left-option keys, so that the Windows and alt keys are in the normal position. Finally, I altered the reight-option key to be the Windows context key. Sharp Keys is just as useful to reorganize your keyboard in BootCamp. It works by editing the Windows keybaord map in the registry, so it works absolutely everywhere in Windows. You don't need to leave it running as a task tray app or anything like that. Just Google for it. It's popular, and is near the top of the list. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marshall Scott Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows on the mac question Hi, I' used SharpKeys to remap the tilde key to the Insert key as well as reassigning a few other keys. This works fine and is much easier than changing the keymapping. Marshall On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Thanks Kevin. Keep me posted and may be write off list so as not to clutter everyone's boxes as others may be not interested. I'd need some detailed instructions in case I had to do anything. On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I found some data on remapping keys on the mac keyboard. Its a bit of a unix challenge and I am still working through the challenges of doing it. Based on my research. the Mac help key is the insert key on the standard keyboard. For macbooks and the keyboards minus a number pad, this key isn't available. I can't make any promises but I'll try and map an existing key to this key and script it. I haven't done any real unix scripting for 10 years or so and therefore, I'm real rusty at it. In the meantime, if someone comes up with something else, that'd be great. I remember the classic laptop keyboard configurations being an option in earlier versions of jaws but that doesn't seem to be available anymore. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Kev. Glad you have bought this subject up. I'm having the same problem. Some time ago, Mark Taylor wrote a message asking people to tell him how others got a jaws cursor. I'm having the same difficulty and need a jaws cursor. So if anyone can kindly tell us how they get around this problem, I'd be so grateful. I desperately need a jaws cursor. Sharp keys will not help me. Kawal. On Jun 26, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I'm running vmware fusion on my mac with windows 7. I'm having an issue getting jaws to recognize the caps lock key as the jaws key. When I try and use it in windows, it continues to recognize it as the caps lock key. Anyone have any ideas for resolution? Thanks, Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Brian I'm curious. When running Snow-Leopard server, does a monitor need to be connected? I'm half tempted to buy a mac Mini and run SL server on it, however, as I don't want to plug a monitor in, I won't bother if it needs one when running this version of the OS. Cheers Dónal On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:46, Bryan Smart wrote: For a dongle, you'd need to have something custom-made, as there isn't anything right now that I know of. Besides that, you'd need the mini displayport to VGA adaptor from Apple. By the time you got through buying those, you could have purchased a small LCD monitor for the same price. If the point is to be compact, and not to save money, then you can buy a basic MacBook for about the same money. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: Focus blue and pressing delete.
Dons 4-5-6 delete backwards by character. My own problem is finding a Braille enter key. :)--Teresa, using a Focus 40 at some distance from the computer. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Jesper Holten wrote: Hi all. When typing away on a focus blue display attached via bluetooth to my Imac, I seem not to find a key keycombination that can delete what I have written. No forward or backward delete. And I cannot figure out how to assign a braille key to that function. Any help would b be greatly appreciatedThank you, Jesper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Answering a few questions about Daisy Bookworm for iPhone
The Stream has a sleep timer, controlled with one oval shaped button. Each time you press it, it adds 15 minutes to the sleep timer, up to a max of one hour. When the sleep timer runs down to 0, the Stream shuts off and saves your place in the book. That way, you can listen to a book as you go to sleep, but not wake up to find that you're now all the way at the end of the book, and be forced to find your place again. When I go to sleep, I might set the sleep timer for 30 minutes. Since the sleep timer is controlled by one button that is easy to identify with touch, if I lay in bed for a while, but am not dropping off to sleep right away, I can reach over and tap the button to throw another 15 minutes on the sleep timer without really having to wake up all of the way. Most of the other book readers have sleep timers, as a feature, but get the implementation wrong. I remember looking at the BookSense at a trade show. The rep was showing me all of the advanced features (Bluetooth headset support, FM radio, etc). The drawback is that you work it all with a tiny set of buttons and lots of menus. I asked him about the sleep timer. He started telling me how you could go in to the menus, navigate to a sub menu, find the sleep timer settings, and select the time. I thought that, by the time that I do all of that to add another 15 minutes, I'd be awake again. Products aren't just features. Think of how many people rarely used the timed record features on VCRs back in the day because a bunch of buttons and a small one-line LCD made the process to cryptic? Or how backup software for a computer has been around for a long time, but it took Time Machine to make it so simple that you didn't need to learn how to do it. For a laugh, compare the size of the iPhone manual against manuals of other smartphones. They're is less to explain about the iPhone, because more of it works as you'd expect. The reason that products have manuals in the first place is to explain the parts that you won't naturally understand. In many cases, it's true that, the larger the manual, the larger your design failure. Technology that many people will use on a daily basis shouldn't ever require a manual or a course in order to comprehend. If it does, you should have designed it to operate differently. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Answering a few questions about Daisy Bookworm for iPhone Sleep button for audiobooks? What does this do? On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: Bryan, owning a VRS and a Book SEnse, I adamantly concur. Yeah, I know it's gadget overload, but I'll never need to buy a car with said payments being more than the price of one of these gadgets every month. I suppose that's how I justify the expense. LOL! I have put audiobooks on my iPod Touch, but I still enjoy listening to them on the Stream or Book Sense more. Like you, I can also operate these gadgets flawlessly while half asleep. As a matter of fact, I don't believe there is a designated sleep button on the iPod Touch or the iPhone for use while listening to books which, for me, is a necessity. Choice is the key here though. Different strokes for different folks! n Jun 27, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Well, a Windows user might say that they can purchase a computer, far more powerful than your Mac, and for less money, so why waste money on a Mac? Or many people wonder why people bother buying iPhones, when the new Android phones far outclass the iPhone in terms of specs and open operation? Cost isn't always the point, though. I don't want to sound like I'm down on them making this program. I might buy it. Actually, I wonder why I'm arguing this on a listserv, anyway. I know that many blind tech people are rightly down on some of the over-priced specialized blindness gadgets. But, seriously, this isn't a $5,000 note taker. Most of the book readers aren't much more than $300. That is damn cheap for a device that is optimized to be controlled with buttons and speech feedback, rather than using touch-screen gestures to review and control a visually-optimized interface. You're waiting for NLS support, which they may never provide. Meanwhile, the Stream works with NLS, RFBD, newsline, practically all other major talking book libraries in the world, DVS movies from places like SamNet, plays Daisy audio books in both MP3 and 3GP audio formats (which this probably won't ever play, so probably no NLS support), plays commercial audio books (including Audible), plays books that you rip from CD yourself as books with all book features (bookmarks, notes, highlighting, etc) still in effect (not just loading MP3s in to a media player), reads Daisy books in text
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
As ever, thank you Ester. On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:57, Esther wrote: Hi Dónal, According to the Mac-access list folks, who converted all their servers from Windows to the Mac at the end of last year, you could run a mac Mini with SL server on it without a monitor up through 10.6.2, but when 10.6.3 came out you needed to connect a monitor. You could ask them for more details. Here's the Mac-access mailing list info web page: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 28, 2010, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Brian I'm curious. When running Snow-Leopard server, does a monitor need to be connected? I'm half tempted to buy a mac Mini and run SL server on it, however, as I don't want to plug a monitor in, I won't bother if it needs one when running this version of the OS. Cheers Dónal On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:46, Bryan Smart wrote: For a dongle, you'd need to have something custom-made, as there isn't anything right now that I know of. Besides that, you'd need the mini displayport to VGA adaptor from Apple. By the time you got through buying those, you could have purchased a small LCD monitor for the same price. If the point is to be compact, and not to save money, then you can buy a basic MacBook for about the same money. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4
I just heard your recording, and I see what you mean. The only thing I can think of, would be to show only contacts that are online. If you could hit the back button when you first sign in, you could choose online contacts. Keep in mind, your list will take some time to populate, and vo will be sluggish until it does. After the list loads, vo should be fine. You said that you have over 500 contacts, so if you were to show only online contacts, you'd probably have better luck with it. Like I said vo will be sluggish while the list is populating. Earle msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca twitter, skype, and facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:41 PM Subject: Re: Best Skype app for iPhone with IOS4 Ok Just made a recording of me trying to use skype and the iphone 3gs using the may 29th update of skype. S Here it is. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/skype_issues_on_iphone_3gs.m4a Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: Skype works fine for me and I'm using the new phone with skype 2.0 On Jun 28, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't knwo how skype will be onteh new phone. I'm having plenty of issues. and I would wait until they update it to multy task or what ever it is called. S On Jun 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Guys, I'm picking up an iPhone in two weeks or so when they have more in. Does anyone have a recommendation for the best Skype app in IOS4? Is it possible to hear a tone when someone is skyping you with this new app? Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
