[Phono-L] phono question
Hello to all, I just found an odd phonograph today and want to ask if anyone has more info on it. It is a front mount machine that has a celluloid label on the front that says The True Tone Talking Machine It is made by the Rudolph Wurlitzer Company, Chicago, ILL. It has a resemblance to a Talk-O-Phone with an oak case. I have never heard of this model and was curious if anyone else has or has one. Thanks, Ken Brekke From AllenAmet Thu Feb 12 17:12:51 2004 From: AllenAmet (allena...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:31 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] phono question Message-ID: 107.2bf23eba.2d5d6...@aol.com In a message dated 2/12/2004 5:43:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, k...@g2a.net writes: I just found an odd phonograph today and want to ask if anyone has more info on it. It is a front mount machine that has a celluloid label on the front that says The True Tone Talking Machine It is made by the Rudolph Wurlitzer Company, Hi How exactly is True Tone written? With a space or a hyphen or as a single word? I doubt that Wurlitzer made this phono - probably sold it though. Allen www.phonobooks.com
[Phono-L] Edison Standard Records
Hi, Does anyone have any Edison 2 minute records that the box says Edison Standard Record on it? Does it have the original lid and record inside? I am trying to get an idea on how long these were made. The highest number I have 10482 was released in Mar 1911 and has an Edison Record box, this was the last month they released 10 recordings. Apr 1911 was when they began to release five recordings. Steve
[Phono-L] Arionola
Hi Ron I have been looking for one of these machines...is she interested in selling? One went on ebay recently, but it had the wrong reproducer. I have seen a couple sell for about $200-250 or so, tho I am sure one in nice original condition could go for $300. John Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: A friend has asked me to help her put a value on an Arionola table top machine. I have not seen it yet but she describes it as complete in nice cosmetic condition and quite small. She said that the turntable overhangs the cabinet. The company hailed from Boston, according to the ID plate. Any ideas of value? Thanks, Ron L ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From Gpaul2000 Sun Feb 15 08:44:07 2004 From: Gpaul2000 (gpaul2...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:31 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Arionola Message-ID: 1ca.19a7d1ff.2d60d...@aol.com For whatever it's worth, we show an Arionola on page 194 of Discovering Antique Phonographs. They're cute machines. George Paul From lherault Sun Feb 15 14:50:07 2004 From: lherault (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:31 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Arionola In-Reply-To: 1ca.19a7d1ff.2d60d...@aol.com Message-ID: 009201c3f405$4be5a1a0$8d5ed...@ronlherault I don't have that book yet. Drat. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of gpaul2...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:44 AM To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Arionola For whatever it's worth, we show an Arionola on page 194 of Discovering Antique Phonographs. They're cute machines. George Paul ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Arionola
It's a great book. The information and pictures in it are fantastic! - Original Message - From: Ron L'Herault To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Arionola I don't have that book yet. Drat. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of gpaul2...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:44 AM To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Arionola For whatever it's worth, we show an Arionola on page 194 of Discovering Antique Phonographs. They're cute machines. George Paul ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From pgvancouver Mon Feb 16 17:55:00 2004 From: pgvancouver (Patrick Gunn) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:32 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Help with a Standard Talking Machine motor In-Reply-To: bay4-dav960weonfl0y1...@hotmail.com Message-ID: 20040216235500.84296.qm...@web11807.mail.yahoo.com Hi all, I'm a little puzzled with the speed control unit on a Standard Talking Machine (Columbia-made motors). You can see the photos by following the link below (each photo is approx. 100k in filesize): http://www.patrickgunn.com/standard/ The speed control is in two parts; an outer screw-knob that'll increase/decrease the speed (constant), and an inner knob that you pull/push which I assume would work as the brake. I can't figure out how it's supposed to work though, as it doesn't push the inside lever against the governor plate to stop it, and doesn't really do anything. I'm thinking that there's a part missing that allows this inner brass lever to move back and forth to brake the governor? The photos at the above link should clarify this. Thanks! Patrick Vancouver, BC __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
[Phono-L] Favorite Phonograph Find Stories
About five years ago I got a call from an elderly gentlemen who told me that a friend gave him one of my business cards and that I was the one to contact for any questions regarding old phonos or cylinders. He told me he was selling his entire collection of cylinders and phonographs horns along with a very unusual cylinder cabinet. He further explained that he was not a phono hobbyist himself but had accumulated these items at various auctions over the years, and really hadn't tinkered with or played them very much, but if I made him a reasonable offer the entire collection would be mine. But I must by all of it, I couldn't pick or chose. Included in the Collection was a Suitcase Model A Home, a Model D Standard, several morning glory horns, about 400-500 cylinders mostly two minute Edisons(with maybe 10% waste do to mold and mildew) and a few blue amberols.The machines were in excellent condition but were bound up due to sitting around for a few decades. But when he showed me the unusual cylinder cabinet I couldn't believe my eyes. I wasn't sure who the maker was but I was certain it was something really unique and special. I told him I would go home and work up a price for the entire collection. In doing some research I determined that the cabinet was a Full Barrel Herzog in Tiger Oak in pristine condition. Having no idea what this could be worth I worked up a price for the entire lot I could afford hoping it would satisfy the owner giving myself some leverage to go up a bit if I had to. I ended up with the entire lot, and with a little cleaning and lubricating had the two Edison Machines running that evening. The Herzog Cabinet became the centerpiece of my modest collection of Phonos and accesories. The cylinders turned out to contain a vast array of early comedy and novelty numbers as well some marches and ballads, and popular songs. Also amongst the cylinders were about 12 old brown wax cylinders which turned out to some of the earliest blue or risque cylinders in existance. To say the least, probably the most unique and best find that I will probably encounter in a lifetime. - Original Message - From: Eric Stott est...@localnet.com To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Favorite Phonograph Find Stories
[Phono-L] Favorite Phonograph Find Stories
Ok, I can't hold out any longer. I got a call from an older couple regarding an old Edison disc machine that they had and wanted to sell. It was in pieces because the husband had taken it apart and never could get it back together. It turned out to be an Edison Bungalow model (supposedly quite rare; according to Frow's DD book there were only a few known examples. Later more would be found). Well, the reproducer was missing the weight and stylus, but there was an adapter arm. The crank was also missing. I hemmed and hawed, thinking about what it would cost to put it back together and what I could expect for it at market value. I finally decided it wasn't worth it, and apologetically told them as much. They said, well, we have these two cabinets too, would you be interested in them? I turned around and from under a blanket appeard a tall square mahogany disc cabinet and a half barrel Herzog cabinet! I opened the Herzog, and saw flat disc shelves, do my disappointment. I reacned in to pull one out, and my fingers felt routed rings on the underside of the shelves. It WAS a cylinder cabinet, they had simply inverted the shelves. The shelves for the door were gone, naturally. I asked their price, and for less than $400 I got the two cabinets. As I was loading, they said, oh what the heck, take the machine for free, we can't use it!. It was a banner day! John Robles bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: About five years ago I got a call from an elderly gentlemen who told me that a friend gave him one of my business cards and that I was the one to contact for any questions regarding old phonos or cylinders. He told me he was selling his entire collection of cylinders and phonographs horns along with a very unusual cylinder cabinet. He further explained that he was not a phono hobbyist himself but had accumulated these items at various auctions over the years, and really hadn't tinkered with or played them very much, but if I made him a reasonable offer the entire collection would be mine. But I must by all of it, I couldn't pick or chose. Included in the Collection was a Suitcase Model A Home, a Model D Standard, several morning glory horns, about 400-500 cylinders mostly two minute Edisons(with maybe 10% waste do to mold and mildew) and a few blue amberols.The machines were in excellent condition but were bound up due to sitting around for a few decades. But when he showed me the unusual cylinder cabinet I couldn't believe my eyes. I wasn't sure who the maker was but I was certain it was something really unique and special. I told him I would go home and work up a price for the entire collection. In doing some research I determined that the cabinet was a Full Barrel Herzog in Tiger Oak in pristine condition. Having no idea what this could be worth I worked up a price for the entire lot I could afford hoping it would satisfy the owner giving myself some leverage to go up a bit if I had to. I ended up with the entire lot, and with a little cleaning and lubricating had the two Edison Machines running that evening. The Herzog Cabinet became the centerpiece of my modest collection of Phonos and accesories. The cylinders turned out to contain a vast array of early comedy and novelty numbers as well some marches and ballads, and popular songs. Also amongst the cylinders were about 12 old brown wax cylinders which turned out to some of the earliest blue or risque cylinders in existance. To say the least, probably the most unique and best find that I will probably encounter in a lifetime. - Original Message - From: Eric Stott To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Favorite Phonograph Find Stories ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From edboyles Wed Feb 18 18:40:52 2004 From: edboyles (Eric Boyles) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:32 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Favorite Phonograph Find Stories In-Reply-To: 20040219003649.63379.qm...@web80603.mail.yahoo.com References: 20040219003649.63379.qm...@web80603.mail.yahoo.com Message-ID: 40340614.7000...@alltel.net Here is my best deal. I will let it speak for itself. I should also add that there 29 records not shown in the listing. http://tinyurl.com/26tbc Eric john robles wrote: Ok, I can't hold out any longer. I got a call from an older couple regarding an old Edison disc machine that they had and wanted to sell. It was in pieces because the husband had taken it apart and never could get it back together. It turned out to be an Edison Bungalow model (supposedly quite rare; according to Frow's DD book there were only a few known examples. Later more would be found). Well, the reproducer was missing the weight and stylus, but there was an adapter arm. The crank was also missing. I hemmed and hawed, thinking about what it would cost to put it back together and what I
[Phono-L] Walnut 16
Anyone notice this auction? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2224781762 Seems awfully high for this piece. Plus the machine looks like someone put some kind of horrible clear coat on it. Any thoughts?
[Phono-L] Walnut 16
I have a problem with these 'private auctions' I think EBAY is asking for people to shill. - Original Message - From: gpaul2...@aol.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Walnut 16 Wow - $8000 for a CW XVI? And it hasn't hit reserve with 17 bids? Looks like shill city to me. You're right - the clearcoat certainly isn't original! George Paul ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Favorite Story
A few months ago on the cold and rainy Oregon evening, I was reading one of Paul and Tim's great books when the phone rang. The call was from a co-worker who was helping a lady set up for an estate sale and the sale included a Victrola. He first described it as being wide with record storage on the sides and a price of $125. Although I was reasonably sure that it was some kind of console, I tried to get more specific and asked what was on the name tag. He replied that it was difficult to read but thought it said VTLA. With that, my heart started to pound and I asked if the bigger doors made an L shape. When his reply was positive, I asked if he could put $20 down and my name with a sold tag on the machine. The dealer said that was ok but I'd have to wait a few days to pick it up. When the big day arrived, I expected to pick up a Victrola XVI style VTLA but I was wrong. It was a flat top Pooley VTLA! When you visit my basement, it still has the $125 price tag...but it also says SOLD! Keep looking, they're still out there. Happy collecting, Jerry Blais
[Phono-L] favorite finds
I am not sure I can top the $75 Berliner but here is my favorite find About 9 years ago I went to an auction that advertised phonographs and parts. There were a couple of Edison Standards and a Columbia BK. There were also about three or four large boxes of parts. Mostly motors, arms, and misc. hardware. I noticed one older gentleman digging through the boxes of parts as if he was one a mission. I started a conversation with him about the parts and he said he had to have a reproducer he saw in one of the boxes. He pointed to a diamond disk reproducer and was adamant that he was going after the parts to get it. I told him that I was interested in all the other parts and that if he didn't bid against me that I would give him the reproducer. He agreed and I filled my trunk with all the parts for about $30. He came over and as I handed him the reproducer I asked him about the Edison diamond disk he must have. He said he doesn't have a player for disks but for those Can Records. I told him that the reproducer wouldn't work on a Can playing machine. He was quite sure that it would fit but agreed to take my phone number down just in case it didn't. Sure enough, I got a call that same night. He said it didn't even come close to fitting. I asked him what model of Edison player he had and he said I don't know. It has a large brown gooseneck horn on top of it. This narrowed it down enough for me and I offered to come and see if I could fix it for him. The next day I drove about 2 hours to his house to find a beautiful Edison Opera perched on top of a player piano. He brought it down and set it hard on the dining room table. He said he had it for many years and it never worked right. All it would to is skip on the record. I new right away to check the fiber govenor gear. Sure enough, about half of the teeth were worn real bad. I showed him the problem and before I could offer my services to fix it he threw his arms down at it and said rather loudly Why don't you just buy this piece of *^%*$* from me I was stunned and told him that I didn't know what a fair offer would be and asked him what he had to have for it. He mentioned that he just spent $900 at the auction we met at and that is what he wants for it. I couldn't write the check fast enough. After loading the Opera in the car and saying our good-byes he said You're not done yet. The cabinet that it used to sit on is in the garage. We went to the garage and pulled out an excellent lion-clawfooted cabinet full of records. After loading the cabinet he said You're still not done He went into the back of the garage and got a couple of boxes of parts. It turns out that for years he would buy parts he thought would work on the Opera and after he found out they didn't they were put in a box. And on top of the parts was the diamond disk reproducer I gave to him at the auction. It only took a couple of days and I had the gear repaired and purring like a kitten. I hope this wasn't too winded but it is my Favorite Find Story Maybe some other time I will tell of the Montross Berliner find. Ken B. From Zonophone2002 Fri Feb 20 04:01:09 2004 From: Zonophone2002 (zonophone2...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:32 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Walnut 16 Message-ID: 15b.2e3475be.2d673...@aol.com hi all alot of his auctions dont seem to make reserve or they sell and seem to go back on ebay a few months later i wonder with a private auction rob From lherault Fri Feb 20 07:55:51 2004 From: lherault (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:32 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] favorite finds In-Reply-To: 000c01c3f75f$2f170f20$c9d4b...@oemcomputer Message-ID: nhbblpolelmeebaifohfoeoodnaa.lhera...@bu.edu OK, Here is my favorite find. Keep in mind that I started as a 13 yr. old in 1961. When I was in college, a fellow Historical Society member who was also a feature writer for a local paper did a story on my hobby. Soon thereafter, I got a call from a fellow who had a phonograph for sale. I went to look and it was a small, outside horn Victor. At the time, I only had inside horn machines and a Suitcase Home. He had cleaned the horn and managed to ruin the paint on it. It didn't run right. He asked me if I wanted it and I said yes. He asked what it was worth and I truthfully answered that I didn't know. How a bout $10-I have to settle an estate, he said. I agreed and my Victor P1 with the original box for its long throat Exhibition sound box were on their way home with me. I couple years previous to this I had rescued the mechanicals to an early Victrola and the governor springs in it fit the P1 so I was able to get it playing smoothly again. Black Spray paint and Brasso restored the horn. It is still one of my favorites. Ron L
[Phono-L] favorite finds - Playstation - Zonophone
Can't comment on the Zonophone query, but I can tell you that I am 30 and started collecting at age 12. I don't know many younger collectors at all. Most of the collectors I know locally are in their mid 40s and up. I do hope more younger people start collecting! I think Loran's daughter collects records and she's in college (I know from another list...78-l) Sean - Original Message - From: Robert Plavzic plav...@hotmail.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 3:53 PM Subject: [Phono-L] favorite finds - Playstation - Zonophone Hello I noticed in a few posts that many people (of the pre-playstation generation?) started on the hobby fairly young. I likewise was about 11 or 12 when I started chasing wind up machines and old records. However in the last 15 years or so I definitely have not seen anyone under 25 competing on the flea markets for anything collectible in the music category? I was wondering if this is a generally noticed phenomenon. Another area where I'm trying to get a better overview is on the subject of Zonophone. A B C D, Home, Parlour, Grand, Concert grand - its quite straight forward - I thought. That is till one encounters the European models. The Zonophone company is a very interesting theme, especially as it shows the reality of the hard competitive nature of the early music industry. I though to try copy the Berliner concept which I have enjoyed so far, nauseate a few more people by asking for some photo's info on about Zonophone. Hey, its a cold winter. I hope that the Company history is accurate, would welcome corrections if there are inaccuracies. Has anyone seen a similar ebonized Model A with bevelled glass panels on matching stand? Thanks in advance Robert _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Youngsters in the Hobby
There are quite a number of younger collectors out there. They're just not all in one place. A few years ago, I used to communicate with a young man out in Atlanta, GA. who was into phonographs. He was still in high school, but I lost touch with him (Perhaps college took him over?). Also a few years ago an 11-year-old from Australia joined phonolist but I don't remember him or his name. Last August/September I was on the phone with a 17-year-old from Los Angeles who said he had over 5,000 acoustic era recordings on mp3's. I'm not sure if he collects the original records, but he beats me as far as Dan W. Quinn recordings go! And yes, Loran's daughter is also into records (mostly children's, but she's also into popular acoustic era recordings). I was into phonographs since age 14. The record collecting goes earlier than that (I knew who Billy Murray was when I was 8). I also had a large history of being made fun of, so I never really shared much or told many people about my hobby. I still don't. I never told classmates who my poineer recording heroes were, nor have I told many collectors through phone or correspondence what my age was for fear of rejection. Even as far back as the 1940s (probably earlier) people questioned if there would be any future interest in phonographs records. And here you guys are keeping the hobby going! I'm 100% positive that this will keep going on 100+ years from now. -Ryan _ Find and compare great deals on Broadband access at the MSN High-Speed Marketplace. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/
[Phono-L] Youngsters in the Hobby
Hi Ryan, Just for the record. Oops, pardon the pun. You are one of the most knowledgeable guys I've ever met when it comes to the history of recorded sound. I don't care how old you are. You are an asset to our Old West, MAPS chapter. Thanks, Fred - Original Message - From: Ryan Barna To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Youngsters in the Hobby There are quite a number of younger collectors out there. They're just not all in one place. A few years ago, I used to communicate with a young man out in Atlanta, GA. who was into phonographs. He was still in high school, but I lost touch with him (Perhaps college took him over?). Also a few years ago an 11-year-old from Australia joined phonolist but I don't remember him or his name. Last August/September I was on the phone with a 17-year-old from Los Angeles who said he had over 5,000 acoustic era recordings on mp3's. I'm not sure if he collects the original records, but he beats me as far as Dan W. Quinn recordings go! And yes, Loran's daughter is also into records (mostly children's, but she's also into popular acoustic era recordings). I was into phonographs since age 14. The record collecting goes earlier than that (I knew who Billy Murray was when I was 8). I also had a large history of being made fun of, so I never really shared much or told many people about my hobby. I still don't. I never told classmates who my poineer recording heroes were, nor have I told many collectors through phone or correspondence what my age was for fear of rejection. Even as far back as the 1940s (probably earlier) people questioned if there would be any future interest in phonographs records. And here you guys are keeping the hobby going! I'm 100% positive that this will keep going on 100+ years from now. -Ryan _ Find and compare great deals on Broadband access at the MSN High-Speed Marketplace. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From Phonophan Fri Feb 20 22:03:34 2004 From: Phonophan (phonop...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:33 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographica Message-ID: 108.2c36a2ab.2d683...@aol.com Thanks for the generous comments, Loran! Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 10307 Rochester, NY 14610 585 244 5546 FAX 585 244 7601 Visit my Web site -- http://www.phonophan.com From loran Fri Feb 20 22:32:14 2004 From: loran (Loran T. Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:33 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] favorite finds In-Reply-To: 4036b6b0.80...@alltel.net References: 1ea.199039dc.2d680...@aol.com 4036b6b0.80...@alltel.net Message-ID: 4036dea7.10...@oldcrank.com I've got to say this has been the best reading in a long while! This certainly doesn't stand up to a $75 Berliner, but I got one of my favorite phonos through the internet - all because of a crap-o-phone! Back in 1998, crap-o-phones were not yet the norm on eBay. I used to email sellers when I'd run across one (back when it was acceptable to do so). After one such email exchange, the seller was absolutely upset about having been rooked on the authenticity of the thing he was selling. So much so, he canceled the auction and demanded a refund from the antique dealer that he had bought it from. A couple of weeks later, I get an email from the same guy. He's got another phono he wants to sell on eBay, but now he's gun shy. Would I mind looking at some photos and advising? He's afraid it's another crap-o-phone. About another week goes by and I get some photos in snail mail. My jaw hit the floor. The crap-o-phone turned out to be a Columbia Type N! Someone had painted the bed plate black, with tacky decal pin striping flowers. Of course, I told him I would be happy to make an offer - he counter-offered and we settled on a price. Of course, my N was not complete. No gutta percha reproducer and missing the fall-off crank. Later, I found a Victrola IV on eBay with an original Columbia fall-off crank laying on the turntable! The owner stated that the Victrola was missing its crank, but she was throwing in the other crank that the buyer might be able to trade for the correct crank. Needless to say, I won that auction, kept the crank, and sold the phono for the same price that I paid for it. Over the years, I've rounded up a gutta percha recorder and a brass Columbia funnel horn - and now an instruction manual. Will I ever find that gutta percha reproducer? Who knows, but then again, half the fun is in the hunt. Loran
[Phono-L] Starr phonograph
Starr phonographs were made by the Starr Piano Company of Richmond, Indiana. This is the same company that produced Gennett Records which were famous for their line of 'race' records that featured some of the hottest jazz of that time period. This is significant since jazz was largely misunderstood/under-recorded by the big WASP-y companies (i.e. Victor) of the day. Much of the Starr-Gennett factory remains standing, and a local historical organization is preserving it and the company's recorded legacy. I believe the link is www.starr-gennett.org. Your phonograph was produced ca. 1914-1924. I can't speak to specific value (much depends upon model, condition, etc., but probably around $300 give or take. They are not particularly rare. John M - Original Message - From: Joe Voigt Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:46 PM To: 'phon...@oldcrank.com' Subject: [Phono-L] Starr phonograph I am interested in finding out more about a Starr phonograph. The serial number is 81952 and has the writing silver grain spruce singing throat of Starr phonograph. Has anyone heard of this model and know about its age, value etc? Thanks in advance. Joe Voigt ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From plavzic Sat Feb 21 07:48:19 2004 From: plavzic (Robert Plavzic) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:33 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Zonophone Page Message-ID: bay13-f76jwhxvolbkq1...@hotmail.com Hello As threatened, a page to present an overview of Zonophone models. I got the pic of the Black Zonophone, which I think is very smart. I hope that the Company history is accurate, would welcome corrections if there are inaccuracies. The unknown (No.1) I have seen many times but don't know which model it is (don't laugh), and the No.2 may be a bit more uncommon. Any other photo's with descriptions are much appreciated its at www.zonophone.netfirms.com thanks Robert _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
[Phono-L] Zonophone Page
Yes I have www.zonopone.com and www.zon-o-phone.com But...between family, work, and collecting...there's been no time for a webpage as I have wanted to do for some time now. Hey Loran...??..got any free time..haha And the old dial-up of AOL is long gone. Contact me off list at mark.albert...@comcast.net Mark - Original Message - From: Robert Plavzic plav...@hotmail.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Zonophone Page Dear Mark, I tried to contact you on your AOL address a few weeks ago as I saw you had the www.zonophone.com address did not want to get in the way of anything you were doing, was asking if you wanted to do something together? Thanks very much for your info. Would you also have the date for the later home? many thanks Robert From: Mark Albertson mark.albert...@comcast.net Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Zonophone Page Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 07:00:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mc4-f28.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.164]) by mc4-s11.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:59:27 -0800 Received: from t2.cwihosting.com ([64.49.220.233]) by mc4-f28.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:59:19 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=t2.cwihosting.com)by t2.cwihosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24)id 1AuYat-0006Fc-BL; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:59:03 -0600 Received: from [204.127.202.56] (helo=sccrmhc12.comcast.net)by t2.cwihosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AuYaq-0006Ez-DTfor phon...@oldcrank.com; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:59:00 -0600 Received: from base (c-24-5-167-2.client.comcast.net[24.5.167.2])by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTPid 2004022114590101200f60due; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:59:02 + X-Message-Info: NDMZeIBu+srxpU8dRWVMS2HfYXM/GTE/8zJENiVPSaI= Message-ID: 000f01c3f88b$7fff82a0$0200a...@attbi.com References: bay13-f76jwhxvolbkq1...@hotmail.com X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: phon...@oldcrank.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Antique Phonograph List phono-l_oldcrank.com.oldcrank.com List-Unsubscribe: http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com,mailto:Ph ono-l-requ...@oldcrank.com?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://t2.cwihosting.com/pipermail/phono-l_oldcrank.com List-Post: mailto:phon...@oldcrank.com List-Help: mailto:phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com,mailto:Ph ono-l-requ...@oldcrank.com?subject=subscribe Errors-To: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - t2.cwihosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - oldcrank.com Return-Path: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2004 14:59:19.0428 (UTC) FILETIME=[48568C40:01C3F88B] Robert: The first machine you asked ID for is a Home with the later simplified case...the bottom trim is much plainer than the earlier Home (who's base is similar to the Model C). When looking at the plight of the Zonophone under the direction of Frank Seaman, it is important to remember that his specialty was in marketing. With that, it is quite interesting to compare what he was introducing to the marketplace to those of his competitors (Berliner, Columbia, and Edison). By being aggressive and introducing many different models (with different production needs) at once, he always seamed to be financially strapped. Hence the first bankruptcy in 1900...and the near or verge of bankruptcy in the fall of 1903 when Eldridge Johnson bought the assets of Seaman for $135K (October 1903). The correct order of machines is: Model A Model B Model C Then came: Model D Concert Grand (early version)...and european version London Grand plus a couple of known but unaccounted for versions or models Then came bankruptcy. Then..nine months laterand after reorganization, came: Home (two case versions)(some with russian bedplate writing, some without) Parlor (some with russian bedplate writing, some without) Grand Concert (early bedplate is smooth and later bedplate is waffle) Concert Grand (early bedplate is smooth and later bedplate is waffle) Grand Opera (early bedplate is smooth and later bedplate is very ornate) There have been a number of variations (within US machines) found...but most of the variations are around decals and decal locations. Those type of minor variations may relate to what they had on the shelf via supplier issues rather than
[Phono-L] Youngsters in the Hobby
boy now thats a memory i bought my first victrola at 11 in vermont in 1962 the victrola was 5 dollars and the edison machine was 10 so as a kid then money was hard to come by so i bought the victrola thats a nice thought too bad they arent that now lol rob From msprinzen Sun Feb 22 11:20:10 2004 From: msprinzen (msprin...@juno.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:33 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] A phono photo from 19teens Message-ID: 20040222.122451.-885233.15.msprin...@juno.com I just purchased a photograph from eBay, circa 1917 or so. http://www.littlewonderrecords.com/East%20Texas%20girl.jpg The buyer thinks it was taken in east Texas. I bought it because of the Bubble Book that's on the floor. Thought I'd share it here because of the phonograph that's on the desk. The photograph wasn't very expensive, so I doubt it's a fake, but if anyone knows something that would hint otherwise I'd sure appreciate the information, or anything else anyone might know about it. Best, Merle
[Phono-L] A phono photo from 19teens
Looks like an inexpensive Columbia machine to me. I wonder if it is a studio shot, with props appropriate for a child? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of msprin...@juno.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:25 PM To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: [Phono-L] A phono photo from 19teens I just purchased a photograph from eBay, circa 1917 or so. http://www.littlewonderrecords.com/East%20Texas%20girl.jpg The buyer thinks it was taken in east Texas. I bought it because of the Bubble Book that's on the floor. Thought I'd share it here because of the phonograph that's on the desk. The photograph wasn't very expensive, so I doubt it's a fake, but if anyone knows something that would hint otherwise I'd sure appreciate the information, or anything else anyone might know about it. Best, Merle ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Cylinder Mold Question...
Even if you remove the mold, you will still have the pits in the record surface. These pits greatly distort or completely erase the recordings contained in the grooves. The bottom line: Unless you find some rare or unusual recording at a low price, don't buy moldy cylinders! A little mold on the ends of the records is usually okay because little or no damage was done to the recording grooves and the record will probably be playable all the way through. In this case, I remove the mold with purified water (warmed to room temperature) and a Q-Tip swab. I use the swab to gently rub the mold off of the record surface. It's time consuming, but it works. I then dry the record thoroughly with a soft cloth. If the cotton batting in the cylinder box is contaminated with fungus, don't put the clean record back inside. Use the contaminated box for Blue Amberol or other plastic cylinders and find a clean box to store the cleaned wax cylinder in. To arrest mold growth, keep the clean cylinders in a dry place with consistent temperature. Remember, exposure to rapid extreme changes in temperature can cause rapid and uneven expansion or contraction of the wax and the cylinder can literally crumble into little pieces before your very eyes. This especially a problem with black wax 4-minute Amberol cylinders. With any wax cylinder, remember to never touch the record surface with your fingers because you may help start the fungal attack all over again. -Phil http://www.engineeringexpert.net/edphono.htm - Original Message - From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Cylinder Mold Question... Rubbing alcohol will not dissolve the cylinder but it will kill the mold. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com]on Behalf Of Robert Plavzic Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:30 AM To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cylinder Mold Question... Hello I once tried the fossil fuel method on a mouldy cylinder, and the result was a really clean looking shiny cylinder. Only once though because though the cylinder looked great, the *zine had dissolved the wax compound, so the cylinder was ready for re-recording! I recon Alcohol other cleaners would also with high likelyhood polish away the recording? I read somewhere that cylinders stored freely - away from the felt lining of the boxes are not so succeptible to mould eg. Concert cylinders that are held in boxes by a central core do not touch the side of the box have a greater life expectency / mould-fungus avoidance. The fungus 'eats' away at the wax, and the resulting pitting cannot be reversed. Another cleaning method to be careful with is just putting the cylinder under warm/cold water - the sudden temperature difference usually leaves 2 half cylinders (from a colleague who tried this - only once as well) I have also been told that liquid black shoe polish will at least make the cylinder look OK, but I'm not going to experiment! regards Robert PS. Some new Zonophones? on www.zonophone.netfirms.com, if anyone could please hint at the model designation It's not a mold, but rather a fungus. It pits the surface of the cylinder so the recording is destroyed even if the mold could be removed. Black wax is actually a metallic soap compound, not just wax (although it contains a couple of wax compounds). I've never exposed a cylinder to gasoline or the like, but I imagine it would be incredibly destructive to the cylinder, particularly the delicate grooves. When I have picked up cylinders with 'moldy' spots, I have applied Mycotin brand anti-fungal in sparing amounts with a cotton swab to the affected areas. I have never seen the spots go away, but my hope is to kill the fungus and stop the spread. Cylinder boxes containing moldy cylinders are also contaminated and should not be re-used for good cylinders for obvious reasons. John M - Original Message - From: Jeff Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:24 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinder Mold Question... Hi Gang... Was talking with a friend who was at an avid Edison machine/cylinder record collector's home today. They got to talking about black wax cylinder mold and this fellow suggested that you could use gasoline or kerosene on light mold to remove it. Seems that if it were that easy and safe for cylinder record that I would have heard this by now. Guess I could try it on one that is headed for the trash anyway, but I thought I'd ask you folks what you thought? Fire away... -jeff :) ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
[Phono-L] Salvador Dali Victor
Shipping and handling is only $311 bucks too! Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com]on Behalf Of Robert Plavzic Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:59 PM To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: [Phono-L] Salvador Dali Victor Hello Not to be missed on ebay today is the Salvador Dali Victor, (a close relation of the Scutcheon Victor) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3706818224category=37904 or item no. 3706818224 Obviously a slow week for local plumbers. (DO NOT ADJUST YOUR SCREEN, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT!) regards Robert www.berliner.netfirms.com _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Salvador Dali Victor
Now that's funny... Dan - Original Message - From: Robert Plavzic plav...@hotmail.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Salvador Dali Victor Hello Not to be missed on ebay today is the Salvador Dali Victor, (a close relation of the Scutcheon Victor) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3706818224category=37904 or item no. 3706818224 Obviously a slow week for local plumbers. (DO NOT ADJUST YOUR SCREEN, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT!) regards Robert www.berliner.netfirms.com _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Help in finding a BA cylinder
Jeff, That was fast. I would like to get a copy of this one. I heard it online last night and wanted a copy as soon as I heard it. What do you think is a fair price? I could meet you tomorrow or Friday in the skywalk. Hey, the 30 is sounding great. I built a new table for it in my woodshop all of quarter sawn oak. It looks great and has a safe place to sit now. Tom - Original Message - From: Jeff To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Help in finding a BA cylinder Hey Tom- I have this title and it's even in your home town!! Slip me an email at home or at work. -jeff :) -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com]on Behalf Of Thomas Jordan Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:27 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Help in finding a BA cylinder Good evening. Does anyone have a good copy of BA 2197 Pussycat Rag with Ada Jones that they would part with? I'm interested in having a copy for my personal collection. Thank you. Tom ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From tomj33 Wed Feb 25 21:56:05 2004 From: tomj33 (Thomas Jordan) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:34 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Help in finding a BA cylinder References: ceeflaobamaaanncibieoegoceaa.jgan...@mchsi.com bay4-dav124bckfexvw0...@hotmail.com Message-ID: bay4-dav1061tz14eba0...@hotmail.com Sorry everyone, I meant to reply to Jeff off of list. From cenfin Wed Feb 25 23:05:05 2004 From: cenfin (albert) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:34 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Salvador Dali Victor References: bay13-f59c4qzpw8aak7...@hotmail.com 004001c3fc14$0b026e40$6501a...@danslaptop Message-ID: 000901c3fc26$c7db4a20$6401a...@potlnd1.or.home.com I know a few of you secretly have one of those in your collections. - Original Message - From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Salvador Dali Victor Now that's funny... Dan - Original Message - From: Robert Plavzic plav...@hotmail.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Salvador Dali Victor Hello Not to be missed on ebay today is the Salvador Dali Victor, (a close relation of the Scutcheon Victor) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3706818224category=37904 or item no. 3706818224 Obviously a slow week for local plumbers. (DO NOT ADJUST YOUR SCREEN, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT!) regards Robert www.berliner.netfirms.com _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Victor catalogs...
Here are two nice clean Victor catalogs on EBAY: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2228541294category=38030 1943 Catalog of Victor and Bluebird records Red Seal, Victor and Bluebird records The Music America Loves Best Over 500 pages, this HUGE catalog has a variety of alphabetically listed sections including Orchestras, Vocal Artists, Composers etc., and a title index of the records produced by Victor. It contains cover photos of many of the album sets available in 1943, and is a storehouse of information about RCA Victor's recorded music offerings not seen in other similar catalogs of the era. This gently used book is in excellent condition, its binding is intact and pages are in clean condition. As with any 60+ year old book like this, the edges of the pages are browned but not brittle. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2228537060category=38030 1924 catalog of Victor Records This scarce 80 year old book contains listings of Victor's Black and Blue label records that were available at the time. It is a strictly alphabetical listing by title and artist making it easy to find what you are looking for, and includes pictures of artists of the day with biographical sketches of them, and a detailed listing of Dance records is included, broken out by type. Its pages are un-numbered but I estimate it contains over 100 pages. This book is in excellent condition, its binding is intact and pages are in clean un-deteriorated condition. There is a small slight stain on the very edge of the pages, but doesn't extend into the page and for the most part, can't be seen with the page open. The cover is embossed with the His Master's Voice logo with Nipper. ... Graham Newton -- Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com World class professional services applied to tape or phonograph records for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR's new CAMBRIDGE processes.
[Phono-L] Help in finding a BA cylinder
hi all i am looking for ba 1931 you made me love you and 5095 clap hands contact me off the list if you have either and are interested in selling thanks rob From Phonofred Thu Feb 26 20:37:52 2004 From: Phonofred (Fred Williams) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:34 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph References: 20040225.072048.4168.470...@webmail22.nyc.untd.com Message-ID: bay11-dav127zbaufkr0...@hotmail.com Oh no Ray, I sure hope you are wrong I've been looking for one of those little cranks for almost three years, I finally found one among the odds, and ends of another collector. When I started looking for it in March, 2001 Jerry Blais, and Doug miller both sent me photocopies of the cranks with their machines. I still have the pictures, and I am sure glad those guys helped me out. Ray, I have to agree with Merle. The Little Wonder came with a crank. A simple little crank with a crimp in the end that slides into the machine, It has a simple little straight black barrel on other end where you grip the crank. I really do still have the pictures if anyone needs them. Thanks to Jerry, and Doug. Fred - Original Message - From: msprin...@juno.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph Ray -- I've been researching this issue for a VERY long time now, and each time I've encountered a machine that was complete (and where there was a good reason to believe that all parts were original) the winding mechanism was a crank. Merle -- Ray Wilenzick rwilenz...@cox.net wrote: Concerning the Little Wonder phonograph that has the tone arm protruding from the horn, does anyone know if a winding key, as opposed to a crank, was ever used on this machine? The few I have seen, and book photos, always show a crank. However, I seem to recall someone saying that a key may have been supplied. Has anyone ever seen an original key, or know anything about this? Thanks. Ray ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.co ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From rwilenzick Thu Feb 26 21:37:30 2004 From: rwilenzick (Ray Wilenzick) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:34 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph References: 20040225.072048.4168.470...@webmail22.nyc.untd.com bay11-dav127zbaufkr0...@hotmail.com Message-ID: 001101c3fce3$08521a40$48340...@wilenzick Thanks, Merle and Fred for the info. However, if you look at the photo of the Little Wonder on p. 192 of Reiss' book, you will see the machine with a KEY, rather than a crank. Is it possible that the key on this L.W. from the Walter Bellm collection is a repro? If so, why wouldn't a repro crank been used? I am not sure this matter has been settled. Ray - Original Message - From: Fred Williams phonof...@msn.com To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph Oh no Ray, I sure hope you are wrong I've been looking for one of those little cranks for almost three years, I finally found one among the odds, and ends of another collector. When I started looking for it in March, 2001 Jerry Blais, and Doug miller both sent me photocopies of the cranks with their machines. I still have the pictures, and I am sure glad those guys helped me out. Ray, I have to agree with Merle. The Little Wonder came with a crank. A simple little crank with a crimp in the end that slides into the machine, It has a simple little straight black barrel on other end where you grip the crank. I really do still have the pictures if anyone needs them. Thanks to Jerry, and Doug. Fred - Original Message - From: msprin...@juno.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phonograph Ray -- I've been researching this issue for a VERY long time now, and each time I've encountered a machine that was complete (and where there was a good reason to believe that all parts were original) the winding mechanism was a crank. Merle -- Ray Wilenzick rwilenz...@cox.net wrote: Concerning the Little Wonder phonograph that has the tone arm protruding from the horn, does anyone know if a winding key, as opposed to a crank, was ever used on this machine? The few I have seen, and book photos, always show a crank. However, I seem to recall someone saying that a key may have been supplied. Has anyone ever seen an original key, or know anything about this? Thanks. Ray ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Amberola 30 Crank - NOT!
Based upon a recommendation from this list, I ordered for a restoration I was doing, what I thought to be an Amberola 30 crank from: http://www.scotlandvacations.com/cranks.htm Well, just recently I finally got around to completing the restoration and was disappointed after I installed the crank to see that it protruded too far out from the machine?s case. Upon contacting the vendor (I thought perhaps he sipped a crank for a 50 by mistake) I received the following response: ?Hi Robert, Sorry to hear you were disappointed with the Amberola 30 crank, and no it will not fit a Amberola 50 as the thread is different. I have sold quite a few of these and never had a problem. Maybe you have a rogue machine? I always state If you have any doubts if one of our cranks will fit your machine please check your machine for thread/slot size and crank clearances before ordering. Check Here If you wish to return it I can shorten it to the length you require but you will have to include $9.00 for return insured mail (or $6.00 uninsured) Regards, Jim? Needless to say I was not pleased. So I went back to the web site to double check the wording and sure enough it says: ?A2 is used on Edison Amberola 30 Cylinder Machines?. Now in all fairness to the vendor, the measurements are given just above this verbiage and sure enough the crank length is about an inch longer than a real 30 crank. As I did not have an original crank (that ?s why I ordered one) to compare the length, I was unable to recognize that the shaft was too long. I also noticed that this same gentlemen sells ?Amberola 30? cranks on eBay and advertises them as ?Amberola 30? cranks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2218939617category=38029 I asked permission to post this on this list and received the following reply: ?Hello Bob, Of course you can do whatever you wish. But as you did order this particular crank and the sizes were clearly given I have to stand by my policy We can not be held responsible if you order the wrong size or length of crank ' as stated on http://www.scotlandvacations.com/CrankSizecheck.htm I have sold hundreds of cranks over the years and have a excellent reputation in the Phonograph community, this is more of an service than a business hence my origonal offer to shorten your crank. Sorry for any misunderstanding, Best Regards, Jim? Now I?m not about to start a flame war nor do I intend to respond to any e-mail regarding this issue unless I have misstated the facts or the situation changes. BUT pleased be warned that the cranks sold as ?Amberola 30? cranks by this gentleman are not authentic reproductions and will protrude about an inch too far out from a 30 case. Bob
[Phono-L] Nipper 2005
Not much slips by this message board, but a friend in South Jersey made me aware today of a special event taking place summer 2005 in Moorestown, New Jersey, the home of one Eldridge Johnson. From the website: Nipper 2005 is a public art project and fund raising event that will place 30+ five foot high fiberglass Nipper dog statues, decorated by artists, on the streets of Moorestown next summer from early June to early September. This special event will culminate with an auction of the dogs in October 2005. We are taking a page from the very successful Cows on Parade staged in Chicago in 1999 and replicated around the country with donkeys and elephants in Washington DC, painted ponies in New Mexico, bears and lighthouses in Maine and many more. www.nipper2005.org Greg Caringi
[Phono-L] Edison phono question
The first Phonograph that I bought years ago was an Edison BC-34 console type phonograph. It came fitted with the two buttons that you describe. It was in a back room of an antique store mixed in with a bunch of old sewing machines. I think that I paid $100.00. It doesn't have a switch that say's long or short. It is definitely a late machine. Tom - Original Message - From: John Maedermailto:appywan...@hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph Listmailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison phono question Edison produced 12 dealer sample records that contained snippets from 10 Diamond Discs as tracks (each track announced by title, artist and catalog number), and 12 Long Play records that may or may not play on the machine that Bob found. Those buttons say late to me, and make me wonder which model Diamond Disc Phonograph Bob found! These buttons were factory installed on some models, but also came as part of the dealer-installed Long Play retrofit kit. Is there a switch on the right side of the bedplate that indicates Long or Short? Is there a metal reproducer holder at the back of the turntable compartment with sockets to hold two reproducers? John M - Original Message - From: Robert Vuillemenot Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:17 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison phono question I believe all the 12 Edison diamond disc records are long play versions. Pretty hard to find. Also your machine needs to be modified to play them because the pitch is different. If I recall correctly they have 400 threads per inch. The machine used to play them must be perfectly level or the stylus will jump the groove. I had one years ago and sold it to a dealer for $50.00. RMV - Original Message - From: Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.commailto:esrobe...@hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.orgmailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison phono question Hi Bob, My Edison DD console has these buttons -- they refer to size in inches of records played. They're very simple spring-loaded buttons that put an obstruction in the path of the tonearm at points 5 or 6 from the spindle, giving the user a reliable way to position the tonearm at exactly the start of a record without having to look carefully or pay much attention to what they're doing. It really works; I wouldn't have thought it would be all that necessary, but it certainly does make it easier to start a record. My only question is, who has any 12 Diamond Discs?? Maybe a few Dealer records, right? Anyone know? Best to All, Robert - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.netmailto:maff...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.orgmailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:56 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Edison phono question Hi list: I was in an antique shop the other day and ran across an Edison diamond disk player. It had a feature That I hadn't seen before. At the left of the works, between the platter and bedplate were 2 buttons that had a 10 and the other had a 12 on it. I presume it has something to do with the speed or size of record to be played. Any information and response explaining this feature would be appreciated. thanks in advance Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.orgmailto:Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.orgmailto:Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.orgmailto:Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/Gethttp://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.comhttp://explorer.msn.com/ ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.orgmailto:Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/
[Phono-L] Edison signed Record box
Some dumb ass will probably buy the box. - Original Message - From: Phillip Sands sinatrafang...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison signed Record box Edison invented the felt tip the same day he signed this record.. Gee, I wonder if they had felt tip markers back then? - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com; Phono-l Phono-L@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Edison signed Record box http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=14431item=2292324566http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=14431item=2292324566 http://tinyurl.com/5aeujhttp://tinyurl.com/5aeuj What do you think of this one? Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/
[Phono-L] Zonophone Phonos For Sale
Hi Fellow Collectors: From my personal collection, I am offering two Zonophones for sale. For the time being, they are being offered as a set because they are like twins. One is the front mount version of the metal bedplate Concert model and the other is the same Concert model but in the rear mount style. Both machines have original parts (no reproductions), are in excellent condition, and present very well side-by-side. Both have all brass horns that are quite attractive. If you are interested in acquiring Zonophones for your collection, this is a great opportunity. If your seriously interested, please contact me off the list for a detailed description of condition, etc. I have plenty of photos that I can send as well. Happy Holidays Mark Albertson From steve_nor...@msn.com Tue Dec 7 11:29:23 2004 From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:56 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison signed Record box References: 20041207035640.78792.qm...@web52003.mail.yahoo.com Message-ID: bay4-dav52b62a84219e82b36207ef6...@phx.gbl Philip, Outstanding, I really enjoyed this one, so far it is the best response, let me know if the seller replies. Steve I just wrote the seller and told him he should have included the Sharpie pen as one of Edisons inventions, it would have added more credibility to this piece of crap item.. --- Phillip Sands sinatrafang...@yahoo.com wrote:
[Phono-L] Edison signed Record box
Hi Al, I spoke too soon, your comment is equally as great. Steve Some dumb ass will probably buy the box.
[Phono-L] Edison signed Record box
I know nothing about phonographs, I don't have a machine to play it on Actually, I use the I don't have a machine to play it on when I sell concert cylinders, because I don't. Have a machine to play them on.. --- aarona...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/6/2004 11:30:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, aph4...@aol.com writes: COA's mean nothing and over 80% of all autographs on Ebay are fakes. Take it from there.. I couldn't agree with you more. I would like to see someone put all the misleading statements these unscruplious sellers use in a book. Some examples come to mind, such as, I know nothing about phonographs, I don't have a machine to play it on. Came from a museum, You can't tell how old it is, ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
[Phono-L] Edison signed Record box
Thanks, I agree about COA's. Steve He wrote back and told me to mind my own business, that all his items had COA's. COA's are usually bigger fakes than the merchandise they're certifying..
[Phono-L] today's funniest ebay listing
gang - the idea of a $20,000 Amberola DX (or whatever the poor little thing is) is funny enough, but when you factor in the arrogant ignorance of the lister, as displayed in the Q A displayed at the bottom of the listing, it's a downright side-splitter! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2293151197 as the listing says, it will not go for a song -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net From lo...@oldcrank.com Fri Dec 10 08:18:20 2004 From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:56 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] today's funniest ebay listing In-Reply-To: 1ed30056-4ab9-11d9-b64d-000d93c1e...@alamedanet.net References: 1ed30056-4ab9-11d9-b64d-000d93c1e...@alamedanet.net Message-ID: 1102695500.3160.6.ca...@oemcomputer Remember, he's got 90 cylinders that he appraised at $100 ea. Once you subtract that $9000, the machine is a real bargain at $11,000! By the way, how much does eBay nick you for a $20,000+ reserve price these days? Loran On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 06:38 -0800, Peter Fraser wrote: gang - the idea of a $20,000 Amberola DX (or whatever the poor little thing is) is funny enough, but when you factor in the arrogant ignorance of the lister, as displayed in the Q A displayed at the bottom of the listing, it's a downright side-splitter!
[Phono-L] Storage... wound or unwound... that is the question
What is the general consensus on leaving your machines wound or unwound between long periods of non-use? I know that there are several thoughts on this, but what is the best practice? Thanks!
[Phono-L] Storage... wound or unwound... that is the question
We discussed this last year, I think. Some feel that letting the machine run down after every use just adds wear to the mechanism. Others disputed the idea that a wound up spring can develop a set to it after a long period. I don't know what you call a long period of non-use. I have restored phonos that have been sitting in attics for over 50 years and found many to have a viable spring after all that time. I don't know if this will be helpful or not. Dave Dazer coturn...@aol.com wrote: What is the general consensus on leaving your machines wound or unwound between long periods of non-use? I know that there are several thoughts on this, but what is the best practice? Thanks! ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/
[Phono-L] Interesting item
Well now this is cool! This is a clothing brush with which I can clean my records. So I wonder whether I can clean my clothing with my record cleaners! --Art Heller _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=38027item=2294976887; rd=1_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=38027item=2294976887rd=1)
[Phono-L] Edison signed Record box
I sure must it admit that in his head he has rocks, for paying five bills for just one worthless box, and may the ghost of Old Tom haunt the seller forever, for this presumed highly crooked endeavor! - Original Message - From: Phillip Sands sinatrafang...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison signed Record box Somebody just got royally screwed and you can't even warn the buyer because its a private auction. Good move if your a crook.. --- zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: wow not even a good copy of the umbrella signature i am impressed lol zono ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/
[Phono-L] Edison signature
This one was listed before, now he hides the buyer, it is easy to see that this one is phony, the umbrella does not cross the T on originals, unless I am mistaken. Where it the website for Edison signatures? Steve http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=29223item=6940233367http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=29223item=6940233367 http://tinyurl.com/6z54t From gpaul2...@aol.com Fri Dec 17 14:06:14 2004 From: gpaul2...@aol.com (gpaul2...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:57 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Need Columbia Horn Message-ID: 1ee.312cbb69.2ef4b...@aol.com John: Either a conical or nickeled horn would be appropriate for the early Q. You'll find one - they turn up. (By the way, the Q was introduced in Jan/Feb. 1899, not 1897. Perhaps you're thinking of the Type B Graphophone?) Good luck - - George Paul
[Phono-L] Dave Hietz
dave collected some very nice machines i was lucky enough to buy one that was for sale at union and see most of them that he had decided to sell. all i can say was he had very good taste in machines. merry christmas and happy holidays to all zono
[Phono-L] Dave Hietz
Dave was truly a gentleman, and a decent human being. During a two-day photo shoot for our books, Dave not only opened every drawer and cabinet we wanted to investigate, but schlepped machines shoulder-to-shoulder with us. We turned his beautiful home and barn upside-down, but he never lost his good cheer. (Well, after an hour or two of Fabrizio's singing, he exclaimed, Mother of God! Who could blame him?) After we put everything back in order, Dave and Nina took us out for a wonderful dinner - and I'm sure he had seen enough of us that day! I sincerely regret Dave's passing, but I'm thankful for having known him. God bless him. George Paul
[Phono-L] Promotional picture
Hi, I have a small 2 1/4 by 3 1/4 inch card with a 1 1/2 by 1 photo of Gladys Rice (I believe) that says: kindly present bearer with the large sepia picture from which this miniature was made Thomas A Edison., Inc Until this time I did not know Edison gave out promotional photos, does anyone know how this was earned or given? For another promotion Edison had the current December Maps magazine tells about the orange box amberols and why they are so rare, an excellent article by Charles Gregory. The hobby is fun for two reasons, there is always more to learn, and those who are kind enough to teach. Steve From taediso...@aol.com Sun Dec 19 09:48:18 2004 From: taediso...@aol.com (taediso...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:58 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Dave Heitz Message-ID: 7d.5f04026e.2ef71...@aol.com I hardly know where to begin... Dave's death has hit me hard. He has been a very dear friend for over 10 years, and I've spent many happy hours visiting with him. His legendary October parties were such a treat that I made it a point to fly from CA to PA every year to participate. A few of us would come in on Saturday morning and spend the day helping him to set up -- a massive job considering the number of guests and the lavishness of the feast he presented. But we'd have a grand time working through the day, then go out for a celebratory dinner. My happiest memories were of the post-party evenings, after most people had left and only a few hard-core collectors would hang around, eating leftovers, drinking to excess, and sharing stories. The fellowship and good cheer was much more intoxicating than Dave's open bar! Dave was unbelievably generous with his time and knowledge. Not to mention generous with objects. On one visit I was joined by a friend who was a rabidly fanatic cylinder collector. The topic of North American brown wax came up, and Dave pulled out a channel-rim NA cylinder and handed it to my friend, saying here you go. It was not in the best of condition, but it was playable, and my friend nearly melted into a puddle of gratitude at this astonishing gesture. Dave was simply happy to see it go to someone who truly appreciated it. On another occasion a visitor was carrying on about his favorite singer, Ada Jones. Dave went off for a bit and rummaged through a file drawer, then presented his guest with an autographed postcard sent by Ada to her nephew in the early part of the century. Just one more random act of kindness, for which Dave was so famous. I also treasure the memories of cruising through the back roads behind New Hope, PA, in his Model T touring car, with Dave activating the 'wolf whistle' and laughing like a teenager as we tore up the roads at 30mph. Last year, after a pit stop at a local colonial-era tavern, Dave handed the keys to the T to our friend Bill Ptacek and said here, you drive. How many people do you know who would simply give the keys to his cherished antique auto to someone else like that? Then again, that's how he presented his collection. At his annual party when he opened the doors to his barn, which was in reality a spectacularly arranged private museum, everything was fair game. Guests were free to play with any of the machines they wanted to. The coin-ops all had trays of coins handy, the Victors all had fresh needles. If someone needed to inspect a motor, they were free to open any machine. Fortunately, as far as I know, no one ever betrayed his trust. I have stories upon stories like that. Dave was simply the best, a true gentleman yet someone who didn't hesitate to speak his mind openly. He was a character, in the best sense of the word. A loveable curmudgeon, a cantankerous teddy bear. The hobby will not be the same without him. Best regards, Rene Rondeau
[Phono-L] Photos of Dave Heitz Collection
On Dec 20, 2004, at 11:24 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: I've posted Adam's pictures on my site (Thanks, Adam!) for general viewing. I'll add identifying captions if folks who are familiar with his stuff, especially the rarer items, will provide them to me. Peter, Thanks for posting those. It brought back some nice memories of our visit with Dave. Loran
[Phono-L] 2005 ARSC Conference
The following message has been posted by the Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC). Please do not hit REPLY or post further messages to this list. ---2005 ANNUAL CONFERENCE--- ARSC proudly announces its 39th annual conference, to be held in the Live Music Capital of the World, Austin, Texas, March 30 - April 2, 2005. Hosted by the University of Texas at Austin, in collaboration with ARSC's Texas Chapter, this conference promises to be lively, enjoyable, and memorable -- one you won't want to miss! The Radisson Hotel Suites Austin will be the conference site. The hotel, located downtown at 111 East Cesar Chavez Street, overlooks beautiful Town Lake, with more than 30 miles of hike and bike trails. ARSC has arranged a special conference rate of $129 per night, single or double. To reserve a room, visit www.radisson.com/austintx/ or call (512) 478-9611 and use promotional code ARSC05. The special rate is good until March 7, 2005, but book as early as possible. For further details about the conference, visit http://arsc-audio.org/conference2005.html. The conference registration form and complete program will be added in early January. ARSC is dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings -- in all genres of music and speech, in all formats, and from all periods. The upcoming conference will reflect this focus. Among the vast array of talks, topics will include: -- music producers and sellers in Austin -- music history and collections in Austin and Texas -- recording technology -- classical, folk, country and gospel music -- copyright issues -- digital preservation. The pre-conference workshop, The Assessment, Preservation, and access of Audio Collections in the Digital Age: An Archival Case Study, will take place March 30, 9:00 a.m. - 4:45 p.m. Workshop registration is not included in the conference registration fee. Early registration (before March 4) is $70 for ARSC members, $85 for non-members. Detailed information and the registration form can be found at http://arsc-audio.org/workshop05.html. Other exciting activities are being scheduled. The conference will include tours of the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library and the Austin City Limits studio at KLRU. Don't forget to join us for the ARSC Banquet, to be held at the world headquarters of Threadgill's, which has been serving home cooking since 1933. Peabody Award-winning radio producers, the Kitchen Sisters (Davia Nelson and Nikki Silva), will be the guest speakers at this event. As a bonus, conference registrants are likely to find many treasures at the Austin Record Convention. Advertised to be the largest sale of recorded music in the USA, the convention will take place at the Crockett Event Center, during the weekend of the conference. If you have questions or wish to exhibit at the conference, please contact Kurt Nauck, ARSC Conference Manager, at na...@78rpm.com. Anna-Maria Manuel ARSC Outreach Committee Chair
[Phono-L] Rocky Horror
- Original Message - From: Robert Plavzic plav...@hotmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Rocky Horror My nomination for the Frank'n Phone for 2004 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=26515item=6500362367rd=1 Es das ein Dreck-O-Fon? Stott (OK My german stinks)
[Phono-L] Rocky Horror
Look at the guy who bid on it, teufelsdreck, I don't know what teufels is but dreck is: dreck or drek n. Slang. 1. excrement; dung. 2. worthless trash; junk Steve My nomination for the Frank'n Phone for 2004 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=26515item=6500362367rd=1 Looks good, but I have some suspicions - my dining room table has the same claw legs - Eternola Hungarian company post 1927 made electric driven machines (I think) - Unique HMV reproducer? - cheap portable phono motor Looks well made though...and if the horn support is original it may be worth the price (250), but I would'nt bet on it all the best Robert
[Phono-L] Rocky Horror
Thanks, that doesn't sound good. Steve Teufel means Devil auf Deutsch. - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rocky Horror Look at the guy who bid on it, teufelsdreck, I don't know what teufels is but dreck is: dreck or drek n. Slang. 1. excrement; dung. 2. worthless trash; junk Steve My nomination for the Frank'n Phone for 2004 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=26515item=6500362367; rd=1 Looks good, but I have some suspicions - my dining room table has the same claw legs - Eternola Hungarian company post 1927 made electric driven machines (I think) - Unique HMV reproducer? - cheap portable phono motor Looks well made though...and if the horn support is original it may be worth the price (250), but I would'nt bet on it all the best Robert ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/
[Phono-L] Rocky Horror
In a message dated 12/23/2004 7:37:47 PM Mountain Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: Look at the guy who bid on it, teufelsdreck, I don't know what teufels is but dreck is: dreck or drek n. Slang. 1. excrement; dung. 2. worthless trash; junk Steve So his ebay name really means Devilsdung. Not really so bad as an ebay name, I must say! He's interested in Jazz records. Give him a break! He can't be all bad! Art Heller
[Phono-L] Rocky Horror
Hallo I don't think that we should dung on the bidder, with the walnut and brass, it looks like something original. It would certainly look good on the back of a Harley. Notice the Lions Head ornament with the ring - obviously to attach the straps/rope to. Wishing you all a Great Christmas all the best Robert In a message dated 12/23/2004 7:37:47 PM Mountain Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: Look at the guy who bid on it, teufelsdreck, I don't know what teufels is but dreck is: dreck or drek n. Slang. 1. excrement; dung. 2. worthless trash; junk Steve So his ebay name really means Devilsdung. Not really so bad as an ebay name, I must say! He's interested in Jazz records. Give him a break! He can't be all bad! Art Heller ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Phono-L] Rocky Horror
Hi Art, He is probably a very nice guy and your translation sounds much better, I was just thinking that Devilsdung described the way the phono he bid on appears, at least to me he described the phono. Actually, his bid seems to have lets some credibility to the phono. Steve So his ebay name really means Devilsdung. Not really so bad as an ebay name, I must say! He's interested in Jazz records. Give him a break! He can't be all bad! Art Heller
[Phono-L] Rocky Horror
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rocky Horror Hi Art, He is probably a very nice guy and your translation sounds much better, I was just thinking that Devilsdung described the way the phono he bid on appears, at least to me he described the phono. Actually, his bid seems to have lets some credibility to the phono. Steve Devil's Dung is also a nickname for Asefoetida- an extremely powerful smelling (stinking?) medicinal gum used as a stomach remedy and an ingredient in eastern cooking. It tastes much better than it smells. Eric Stott
[Phono-L] Merry Christmas!
Here's wishing each of you and your families a very, merry Christmas! I hope Santa leaves something special for you under the tree this evening. Since I don't have any spare phonographs to send you folks, I'll give you a list of my favorite links to free software that can make your online experience much safer in the new year. First, a new browser - Firefox. Use it in place of Internet Explorer wherever you can and it will help protect you against most security issues that plague IE. Firefox is getting rave reviews and can be downloaded free at http://www.getfirefox.com Next, a new mail client - Thunderbird. Not only will it save you from a host of vulnerabilities in Outlook/Outlook Express, it will also weed out the spam for you. Free at http://www.getthunderbird.com Still insist on using Outlook? SpamPal will fix your spam problem there too. Download free at http://www.spampal.org Don't like paying for antivirus software? Try the free edition of AVG antivirus at http://www.grisoft.com . A close second is ClamWin free antivirus at http://www.clamwin.net . Take care of your spyware problems with Ad-Aware at http://www.lavasoftusa.com . An equivalent alternative is Spybot Search Destroy. Download it at http://www.download.com/Spybot-Search-Destroy/3000-8022_4 -10289035.html?tag=lst-0-2 Now, if you're still plinking around on AOL or other dialup services, it's time to look into broadband. Check your local cable or telephone provider to see if broadband is available in your area. It's getting cheaper and the speed will amaze you. Just make sure your connection is FIREWALLED, or you'll be in for a bucket load of bad news (viruses). If you don't know how to firewall your computer, check with your family geek :) Last, if you've made it this far, I've got FIVE GMAIL ACCOUNTS to give away! Just email me OFF LIST at lo...@oldcrank.com . Each GMail account comes with 1 GB of mail storage and excellent spam filtering. First come, first served. Now, go get some eggnog. And play a record or two! Loran
[Phono-L] New 5 Cylinder Book
Gang - My copy arrived recently, and it's quite nice - worthy of addition to any phono or cylinder collector's library. There's a wealth of information, plus many many reproductions of advertising and catalogs for the large-format cylinders and machines. Cheers, Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:47:49 -0800 pjfra...@alamedanet.net wrote: Hi - Look what (finally) popped into my phonolist mailbox this morning! I'm sure Ron won't mind me sharing this with you all... --- ronald dethlefson r2d...@pacbell.net wrote: To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com From: ronald dethlefson r2d...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:10:33 -0800 Subject: [phonolist] 5 Concert Book I will begin shipping copies of Edison, Lambert, Concert Records Columbia Grand Records and Related Phonographs(The 5 Inch Cylinder Book)next week. This 148 page book covers recording and manufacturing methods, cylinder titles, record boxes, dating guides, types of phonographs, advertisements, and catalogs. There are 156 illustrations, 36 in color. Edition is limited to 250 numbered copies, 8x ll size. Price: $44.00, postpaid, from: Ron Dethlefson 3605 Christmas Tree Ln Bakersfield, CA 93306-1114. Happy reading! Ron -- -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ -- -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net
[Phono-L] Merry Christmas!
In a message dated 12/28/2004 8:36:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, phono...@aol.com writes: Same here. There is no cable service here. I want everyone to know that all of the things Loran said are true, and I was teasing him. At least us dial-up troglodytes have these pokey connections and can talk to all of you folks, whose comments are so often bright spots in my day. Happy New Year! Randy Minor
[Phono-L] Edison DD ebay listing
Doesn't someone what to fly over and check out this machine? It sounds like a deal. ebay # 3771282841 Randy
[Phono-L] Edison DD ebay listing
Its the no pictures and the seller has one feedback and its a negative that sparks my interest. Idiot.. --- diamondisk...@aol.com wrote: Doesn't someone what to fly over and check out this machine? It sounds like a deal. ebay # 3771282841 Randy ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Phono-L] 100 year old two headed serpent
In a message dated 12/29/2004 7:35:28 PM Mountain Standard Time, bruce78...@comcast.net writes: See the incredible two horned 100 year old Victor Phonograph!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=73465item=3771981494r d=1 A truly unbelievable Craponola!! Say Bruce... Those two horned antiques have been on eBay off and on for years now. They're just hoping to find a lucky buyer. They are being touted as showing ancient chinese craftsmanship. But I'm really waiting for the three horned models to come out. And if we all wait long enough, maybe we'll see a six horned model which could be used with a flat screen TV and would thereby qualify as a true home theater. ---Art
[Phono-L] 100 year old two headed serpent
hi all allen (amet) koenigsberg had on ebay awhile ago the reproducer for the multiplex its looked pretty interesting best to all and happy new year rob
[Phono-L] Columbia Multiplex Grand
The Columbia Multiplex Grand did indeed exist - and one of the two known examples built may someday miraculously show up. We illustrated the only known piece from a Multiplex Grand in our first book (The Talking Machine Compendium), and the upcoming second edition will include the same photograph of Allen Koenigsberg's surviving reproducer carriage w/three reproducers. As stated in our book, the Multiplex Grand was exhibited at the Paris Exposition in 1900, and one was purchased by the Shah of Persia. A second exhibition of the Multiplex Grand took place during the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair. In our last book (Phonographica), a 9 3/4 x 14 circular featuring the Multiplex Grand is shown on page 52. The illustrated flyer offers a lot of information on this fascinating Graphophone, including its ability to not only play three different tracks separately (stereo), but to also play a ten-minute recording by employing only one of its three reproducers and utilizing the entire nine-inch length of the 5 cylinder! If I could make a wish and discover any antique phonograph tomorrow in a local shop, the Multiplex Grand would be my choice. That includes the three 56 horns and special stand, of course! A Happy New Year to all - George Paul
[Phono-L] Columbia Multiplex Grand
In a message dated 12/30/2004 9:21:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gpaul2...@aol.com writes: If I could make a wish and discover any antique phonograph tomorrow in a local shop, the Multiplex Grand would be my choice. I am a die-hard Edison guy, but if I saw a Multiplex Grand in a shop, I would consider it my duty to become its owner. However, I would include a few cylinders to play on it in my dream as well! As for the machine's volume, the ad claims great volume as one of the machines attributes. I found this plausible, but not because of the three horns alone. The three reproducers would move a lot more air, and therefore might make more volume possible. I wonder how hard it was to keep all of the grooves, recorders, and reproducers aligned properly? A tough chore, I bet. Randy
[Phono-L] Columbia Multiplex Grand
In a message dated 12/30/2004 11:45:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, diamondisk...@aol.com writes: I wonder how hard it was to keep all of the grooves, recorders, and reproducers aligned properly? A tough chore, I bet. Randy Owning the Multiplex Grand Reproducer Carriage myself (with 3 access points), I can say that there are controls to keep the styli in alignment. With the recommended 56 brass horns, it was quite a blast. It was also exhibited at the 1904 St Louis Worlds Fair - Columbia Pavillion. Allen www.phonobooks.com
[Phono-L] Heading to Phoenix, A
Listers: I am going to Phoenix, A in a couple of days. I would like to touch base with any phono folks . Please let me know. Bob
[Phono-L] Columbia Multiplex Grand
is there any way we could see pictures of this? is it in any of the fabrizio/paul books? On Dec 30, 2004, at 9:04 AM, allena...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/30/2004 11:45:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, diamondisk...@aol.com writes: I wonder how hard it was to keep all of the grooves, recorders, and reproducers aligned properly? A tough chore, I bet. Randy Owning the Multiplex Grand Reproducer Carriage myself (with 3 access points), I can say that there are controls to keep the styli in alignment. With the recommended 56 brass horns, it was quite a blast. It was also exhibited at the 1904 St Louis Worlds Fair - Columbia Pavillion. Allen www.phonobooks.com ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net
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No need to do a thing... everyone was transferred over in one fell swoop. It's just been quiet for a couple of days. Speaking of quiet, would anyone like to volunteer a report from the CAPS show? Loran On Aug 22, 2004, at 7:01 PM, Michael Graziano wrote: I haven't done anything and received your email -Original Message- From: Mark Lynch [mailto:markely...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 8:49 PM To: Phono-L@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Hi Loran, Thanks for all the hard work hosting the Phono-L list, I know it must be a thankless job at times! I really appreciate what you do. Are there any steps needed on my part to re-subscribe to the new domain? I have not received a posting since 8/20. Kind Regards, Mark Mark Lynch markely...@earthlink.net ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l
[Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted!
Okay, maybe I'm biased since I'm now editing the CAPS journal, The Sound Box, but in my opinion it was an excellent show in every respect. The CAPS show seems to be growing steadily, and it is now equivalent in size to the east coast shows (Union still dominates all of them). It is also attracting more and more out of state visitors every year. What makes the CAPS show so much more special than the others is the early buyer opening on Saturday afternoon during setup, and especially the banquet on Saturday night. No other group does such an entertaining and informative event. The banquet is a great opportunity to relax and chat with friends. The quality of the meal itself has improved significantly in the past couple of years with a new caterer handling it. It's pretty remarkable considering they serve 100 people! What really sets the banquet apart is that each year a speaker is invited to give an informative presentation. This year's guest speaker was Jack Stanley, director of the Menlo Park Museum in Edison, NJ. Jack is incredibly knowledgeable about Edison, and he gave a hugely entertaining talk about Edison -- the man versus the myth. I'm sure everyone in attendance will agree that it was a sensational presentation. The show itself, like others of its kind, offers something for everyone. There were huge amounts of records, all sorts of parts, and machines ranging from common fixer-uppers to gorgeous high-end showpieces. In short, it was a lot of fun. The CAPS board, and especially Bruce Peterson who handles most aspects of the show and banquet each year, deserve kudos for the great job they do. Best regards, Rene Rondeau -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040823/800e8d37/attachment.html From s...@clarphon.com Mon Aug 23 20:13:03 2004 From: s...@clarphon.com (Stan Stanford) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! References: 7ebcb54b-f565-11d8-9fcd-000393c78...@alamedanet.net Message-ID: 001501c48988$44f32700$0200a...@stan I attended the CAPS show and had a great time. There were interesting machines for sale and I was able to sell a nice machine, extra parts, and smaller items. It was a great show for me. The CAPS leadership is very friendly and helpful. The banquet speaker from the Edison site was outstanding. I encourage all to put it on your calendar for next year!! It's always the second weekend in August. Stan Stanford Portland, OR - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfra...@alamedanet.net To: Antique Phonograph List Phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! Gang - Remarkably, not one posting has arrived telling us how wonderful, or crappy, or whatever-in-between, the CAPS show of a couple weekends ago may have been. So what gives? did anybody go? If you did, please share your observations, complaints and brags with us! -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -- Theodore Roosevelt, speaking on President Wilson's crackdown on dissent after the U.S. entered W.W.I ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l
[Phono-L] History of Sound recording Edison, Berliner
Hello There is a history / timeline of Sound recording on www.cnn.com - kind of in the middle of the page. A few pics of Berliner / Edison etc I think things stay there about a day regards Robert _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
[Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted!
The show was about par. A few rarities, a handful large machines, tons of records and one movie star. The banquet was great, as the speaker was well versed in Edison's life history, focusing specifically on personality traits. Extremely interesting and worth the price. From: Peter Fraser pjfra...@alamedanet.net Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List Phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:35:27 -0700 Gang - Remarkably, not one posting has arrived telling us how wonderful, or crappy, or whatever-in-between, the CAPS show of a couple weekends ago may have been. So what gives? did anybody go? If you did, please share your observations, complaints and brags with us! -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -- Theodore Roosevelt, speaking on President Wilson's crackdown on dissent after the U.S. entered W.W.I ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
[Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted!
Hi James Was it Matt Dillon that attended again? John James Burtnett jburtn...@hotmail.com wrote: The show was about par. A few rarities, a handful large machines, tons of records and one movie star. The banquet was great, as the speaker was well versed in Edison's life history, focusing specifically on personality traits. Extremely interesting and worth the price. From: Peter Fraser Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:35:27 -0700 Gang - Remarkably, not one posting has arrived telling us how wonderful, or crappy, or whatever-in-between, the CAPS show of a couple weekends ago may have been. So what gives? did anybody go? If you did, please share your observations, complaints and brags with us! -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -- Theodore Roosevelt, speaking on President Wilson's crackdown on dissent after the U.S. entered W.W.I ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040824/bffb84bb/attachment.html From misterphonogr...@sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 24 14:25:40 2004 From: misterphonogr...@sbcglobal.net (Matt Brown) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Gotta get rid of some stuff Message-ID: 001c01c48a20$e90015e0$157af...@w2q9r0 I hope this is OK for me to post this here - we have a new baby on the way, and my wife isn't too keen on the idea of storing the baby and it's things in and/or on phonographs. So some things must go. Pay no attention to the tear-stains on this email 1.Edison B-80 (mahogany) Very nice condition $500.00 2.Edison LU-37 (mahogany)London Upright Some finish fading, but nice $250.00 3. Edison LC-38 (mahogany)London Console Very nice condition $275.00 4. Edison C-250 (mahogany)Chippendale Excellent condition $750.00 5. Edison B-200 (mahogany)Queen Anne AMAZING condition - all original $750.00 6. Edison C-200 (mahogany)Adam Excellent condition $500.00 7. Edison CC-32 (mahogany)Chippendale Console Very nice condition $500.00 8. Edison WMC-38 (mahogany)William and Mary Console Excellent condition - has been French polished $500.00 9. Edison WMC-38 (mahogany)William and Mary Console Very nice condition $350.00 10. Edison C-450XVIII Century English (Adam) Hard to find! Excellent condition $1800.00 11. Edison IU-19 (walnut)Italian Umbrian Hard to find - very nice condition $950.00 12. Edison H-19 (mahogany)Hepplewhite Fleur-de-lis grille - very nice condition $350.00 13. Edison H-19 (mahogany)Hepplewhite Shield grille - excellent condition $350.00 14. Edison C-150 (oak) Needs work $200.00 15. Victor VV 4-3Consolette Very nice condition $395.00 16. Columbia Grafonola K-5 Very nice condition $575.00 17. Dulcitone Upright BURLED WALNUT AND BIRD'S-EYE MAPLE - beautiful! $575.00 18. Puritan Plymouth Very nice condition $400.00 Pics of all are on my site - www.misterphonograph.com . I'd be happy to send additional photos/info to anyone interested. Going to go weep uncontrollably now :) Matt Brown -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040824/6a86f817/attachment.html From lo...@oldcrank.com Tue Aug 24 14:46:32 2004 From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Gotta get rid of some stuff In-Reply-To: 001c01c48a20$e90015e0$157af...@w2q9r0 References: 001c01c48a20$e90015e0$157af...@w2q9r0 Message-ID: 200408241446.32409.lo...@oldcrank.com On Tuesday 24 August 2004 02:25 pm, Matt Brown wrote: I hope this is OK for me to post this here - we have a new baby on the way.. It's always appropriate to post your buy/sell/trade lists on Phono-L. Congrats on the new yung-un! Loran
[Phono-L] Gotta get rid of some stuff
Matt, any cylinder players in this bunch? Thanks, Robert - Original Message - From: Matt Brown To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Gotta get rid of some stuff I hope this is OK for me to post this here - we have a new baby on the way, and my wife isn't too keen on the idea of storing the baby and it's things in and/or on phonographs. So some things must go. Pay no attention to the tear-stains on this email 1.Edison B-80 (mahogany) Very nice condition $500.00 2.Edison LU-37 (mahogany)London Upright Some finish fading, but nice $250.00 3. Edison LC-38 (mahogany)London Console Very nice condition $275.00 4. Edison C-250 (mahogany)Chippendale Excellent condition $750.00 5. Edison B-200 (mahogany)Queen Anne AMAZING condition - all original $750.00 6. Edison C-200 (mahogany)Adam Excellent condition $500.00 7. Edison CC-32 (mahogany)Chippendale Console Very nice condition $500.00 8. Edison WMC-38 (mahogany)William and Mary Console Excellent condition - has been French polished $500.00 9. Edison WMC-38 (mahogany)William and Mary Console Very nice condition $350.00 10. Edison C-450XVIII Century English (Adam) Hard to find! Excellent condition $1800.00 11. Edison IU-19 (walnut)Italian Umbrian Hard to find - very nice condition $950.00 12. Edison H-19 (mahogany)Hepplewhite Fleur-de-lis grille - very nice condition $350.00 13. Edison H-19 (mahogany)Hepplewhite Shield grille - excellent condition $350.00 14. Edison C-150 (oak) Needs work $200.00 15. Victor VV 4-3Consolette Very nice condition $395.00 16. Columbia Grafonola K-5 Very nice condition $575.00 17. Dulcitone Upright BURLED WALNUT AND BIRD'S-EYE MAPLE - beautiful! $575.00 18. Puritan Plymouth Very nice condition $400.00 Pics of all are on my site - www.misterphonograph.com . I'd be happy to send additional photos/info to anyone interested. Going to go weep uncontrollably now :) Matt Brown -- ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040824/d11f7f7e/attachment.html From esrobe...@hotmail.com Tue Aug 24 15:03:21 2004 From: esrobe...@hotmail.com (Robert Wright) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Gotta get rid of some stuff References: 001c01c48a20$e90015e0$157af...@w2q9r0 200408241446.32409.lo...@oldcrank.com Message-ID: bay16-dav2mknyo9cfj0001d...@hotmail.com Sorry folks, didn't mean for my question to Matt to go out to everyone. Matt, I know it probably won't help convince your wife one way or the other, but I can tell you that my earliest childhood memories of the concept of 'magic' consist almost solely of being a toddler and seeing my dad, uncle, and aunt winding up my grandparents' old console excitedly. Seeing the previously frozen memories washing across my dad's face as the rickety machine belched forth its song made me see him (not to mention music itself) in a whole different light, and I'm sure, fundamentally changed my relationship with him as well. The lifelong love of phonographagramophonalia the image fired in me has remained one of the constant joys in my life through all fate's storms and otherwise. My greatest regret is that I don't have enough space to truly 'collect,' as it were, a number to hand down to my offspring, as you do now... There's something very psychologically sound about the development of children who a) see one or both of their parents HAPPY from time to time, and b) learn by example from their parents how much peace, security, sense of self, and sense of living a truly sacred life comes from validating one's passions out loud. That said, I sure am in need of a beat-up old Edison cylinder player, something that can play 2- and 4-minute cylinders, that is mechanically and sonically sound but not all that purty (read: functional but cheap!). Anybody? And lastly, to Matt, if I did end up buying one of your phonographs, I can promise you I'd keep it until you were ready to buy it back. Oh, and most importantly, to echo Loran, CONGRATULATIONS! Warmest Regards, Robert Wright - Original Message - From: Loran Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Gotta get rid of some stuff On Tuesday 24 August 2004 02:25 pm, Matt Brown wrote: I hope this is OK for me to post this here - we have a new baby on the way.. It's always appropriate to post your buy/sell/trade lists on Phono-L. Congrats on the new yung-un! Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org
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An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040824/786b3e2a/attachment.html From lo...@oldcrank.com Tue Aug 24 16:27:26 2004 From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L In-Reply-To: 412b8eda.939.160d...@localhost References: 412b8eda.939.160d...@localhost Message-ID: 200408241627.26054.lo...@oldcrank.com Ben, It seems the server is having an identity crisis. I'll fix this as soon as possible and make the change for you. For the moment, it appears that nobody - including your humble administrator - can make any changes. Sorry for the inconvenience, Loran On Tuesday 24 August 2004 03:54 pm, bhtongue wrote: Hi, Under the old server, I received messages in a Daily Digest. Now, I receive individual emails, and I would like to go back to Daily Digests. I tried to use the supplied link http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l , but I get an error message Internal Server Error. What should I do now? Best regards, Ben H. Tongue
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The server is fixed. You can again access Phono-L and your account info on the web at http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l . Loran
[Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted!
No, I think it was Festus. - Original Message - From: john robles To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:53 PM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! Hi James Was it Matt Dillon that attended again? John James Burtnett jburtn...@hotmail.com wrote: The show was about par. A few rarities, a handful large machines, tons of records and one movie star. The banquet was great, as the speaker was well versed in Edison's life history, focusing specifically on personality traits. Extremely interesting and worth the price. From: Peter Fraser Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:35:27 -0700 Gang - Remarkably, not one posting has arrived telling us how wonderful, or crappy, or whatever-in-between, the CAPS show of a couple weekends ago may have been. So what gives? did anybody go? If you did, please share your observations, complaints and brags wi th us! -- Peter pjfra...@alamedanet.net To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -- Theodore Roosevelt, speaking on President Wilson's crackdown on dissent after the U.S. entered W.W.I ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee? Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040824/242eef13/attachment.html From talk78s.settlem...@sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 25 04:56:40 2004 From: talk78s.settlem...@sbcglobal.net (talk78s.settlem...@sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Updated phono/record links, and updated me Message-ID: 002301c48a9a$95903870$21011...@discography It's only taken 11 months! Yes indeed, the 78/phonograph links page has been updated: http://www.proaxis.com/~settlet/record/links.html There are 22 new sites: Vintage Phonograph Music gram-o-phone.com VIP Records Fox auf 78 shellac-records.de SchellackBoerse The Phonoautograph Mostly Big Bands W.A.M.S Equalization Curves Jazz Discography Project Alan Cooperman Record Auctions FGRA Transfer Service The Olde Tyme Radio Network The Berliner/Zonophone Registry Project (gets my cool site vote) Roaring 1920s Tunes Yiddish-American Digital Archive Qu?b?coise Record Library Blues Free Press links Edison Commemorative Coin Norbeck Peters The Database of Popular Music Henry Burr in Concert Many thanks to: Dudley Delany Cao Jiang, Ph.D. J. E. Knox Stephen Worth Prof.Dr.Klaus Kr?ger Germar Gr?ger Richard Harrison Dave Burnham Bob Shirer Alan Cooperman Joe Salerno Robert Plavzic David W. Littlefield Richard DeLombard Nigel Burlinson Dudley Delany On a personal level, one of the reasons it took so long to update this time is that my company has transferred me from Oregon to Dallas, TX. I had been flying back and forth for awhile, then moved to a new house in Plano, Texas, and then it took me a couple months to get online. We drove across the country (which the company paid for) and all our stuff was moved (paid for again by the company) including 1 records. 9994 of which made it safely. The only loss of any significance was a Gene Ammons on Chess. One benefit is that I finally have a record room and can truly organize my records. But sorry Lennick, still haven't found the one you need. The anti-benefit is that now I don't know any collectors in the immediate area. I hope to be able to meet fellow record / phonograph collectors in the Dallas/Fort Worth area soon. Are the any informal gatherings / trade shows in the area? All the best, Ty Tyrone Settlemier talk78s.settlem...@sbcglobal.net http://www.proaxis.com/~settlet/record/record.html http://settlet.fateback.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040825/81cae014/attachment.html From lo...@oldcrank.com Wed Aug 25 08:29:59 2004 From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes)
[Phono-L] Re: Repro Crane
Don, You might try Wyatt's at www.wyattsmusical.com. Loran On Friday 27 August 2004 01:27 pm, Don Mayer wrote: Hello, I need to order a reproduction horn crane and back bracket for a Music Master cygnet horn. The last time I did this was a couple of decades ago and at that time there were good reproductions and not-so-good reproductions in the marketplace. I would like to ask if someone would be kind enough to e-mail me off-list to tell me who they think carries the best reproductions currently available. Thanks very much, Don Mayer
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[Phono-L] New Email Address!
Folks, Just to let you know, Phono-L has a new email address. It is now Phono-L@oldcrank.org . Please change your address book accordingly! Regards, Loran
[Phono-L] Victor Needle Display Case
I'll bet it would respond to waxing well after the wash too. Whatever you do, test small areas with the cotton swab first. Painted metal probably reacts like a painted car -wash and wax to keep it looking good 8-). Ron -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of Eric Boyles Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:32 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Needle Display Case Thanks Ron It is painted metal and not wood. Eric Ron L'Herault wrote: I'd try mechanic's waterless hand cleaner(no pumice). If it is painted metal, a good washing with Fantastic or some other grease cutter might work too. Test a spot on different painted areas with a cotton swab to see if any color comes off though. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of Eric Boyles Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:42 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Needle Display Case Hello All I picked up this Victor needle display case which has darkened with age, almost like the varnish sealer has yellowed. I obviously do not want to do anything to damage it, but do you think that the oil painting restoration techniques will work? Its still a great piece, but would be outstanding with brighter, cleaner color. Any other reccomendations including leaving it alone are welcome. http://tinyurl.com/28yxm Thanks Eric Boyles Crossett, AR ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Buyer Beware - Please Read This!
On this subject, I'd like to tell the rest of you something that might not be commonly known. Years ago (20, 30 years ago) there was a man who lived in Fulton, NY who was a big phonograph collector. He LOVED Edisons especially. He had a fabulous collection, and he sold it off over a long period of time. I bought some of it. He also painted clock faces for a living. That was his job, restoring and decorating clock faces. A word to the wise should be sufficient. Best to all, Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 10307 Rochester, NY 14610 585 244 5546 FAX 585 244 7601 Visit my Web site -- http://www.phonophan.com From john9ten Tue Apr 6 20:45:36 2004 From: john9ten (john robles) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Buyer Beware - Please Read This! In-Reply-To: 40735a92.8040...@alltel.net Message-ID: 20040407014536.23017.qm...@web80604.mail.yahoo.com You are very lucky Eric. I am glad it wasn't one of the people who purposely sells fake 'antiques' on ebay. Congrats to the seller too for being a fair person. John Robles Eric Boyles edboy...@alltel.net wrote: Folks, I almost made a big mistake. I won this through ebay and had actually already sent the seller a email payment. I had a anoynomous seller email me and suggested that I verify with a expert because he was 100% sure that the clock had fake Edison advertising placed over an original Baird clock. I was able to confirm today that is indeed a fake and the seller was devastated! He was man enought to take his medicine and willingly refunded my payment. That definetly helps restore my faith in mankind! Attached is the Ebay auction upl. Please study it and don't be duped in to buying this in the future!! http://tinyurl.com/2c9fb Happy collecting, Eric Boyles Crossett, AR ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From edboyles Tue Apr 6 20:59:49 2004 From: edboyles (Eric Boyles) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Speaking of Edison Clocks Message-ID: 40736096.6060...@alltel.net I also had the clock expert look at the Seth Thomas clock which brought big dollars on Ebay. See the url below. I am not sure who bought it and do not want to start any negative implications but it was the clock experts opinion that the clock is a newer vintage that the era of the Edison logo would have been. He used a great example of where VFW was used on a clock made in the 1890's. Knowing that the VFW was started in 1917 helps you understand that it can't be original to and 1890's clock. In my case, I wanted that clock and maybe looked past the hard questions. I had acutally emailed the seller with several points, one being the phono's did not look right (as someone else pointed out as well). His reply gave me a comfort zone that made me feel it was OK. Maybe that conversation up front helped my speedy refund efforts. As already indicated, anything is possible. http://tinyurl.com/3fy8m Eric
[Phono-L] Speaking of Edison Clocks
RE the other clock sold on on ebay http://tinyurl.com/3fy8m The Edison collector I knew lived in Fulton, NY. He loved Edisons. He painted clock faces and restored clocks for a living. This clock was sold from Fulton, NY. What does that suggest? Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 10307 Rochester, NY 14610 585 244 5546 FAX 585 244 7601 Visit my Web site -- http://www.phonophan.com From tvenetis Wed Apr 7 17:42:05 2004 From: tvenetis (Tim) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] phonograph spring question Message-ID: 000801c41cf1$8d2fc270$ef9a5...@toshibauser I am trying to wind a spring on an edison gem and I would like to know how to get the hole in the end of the spring over the pear shape stud on the shaft because the center of the spring is very tight and I try to work it on the stud but it will not catch thanks From honestgerald Wed Apr 7 19:09:26 2004 From: honestgerald (Jerry DeeDee Blais) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola Packing Crate Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.20040407170825.0086f...@proaxis.com Does anyone have any interest in a very nice Victrola packing crate? A good friend has one for sale and asked me to take it to Union. I am happy to deliver it to Union at no cost and the price is $300. Thanks Happy Collecting, Jerry Blais
[Phono-L] Available at Union
Hello Group! I've been setting aside a few items in preparation for Union and I have the following: Huge Victor brass bell horn, straigtened polished bell professionally repainted body, $600. 11 Papier Mache Nipper, original paint (repair to front leg joints), $500 22 black flowered Victor horn, original paint, $200 Model A Gem, no reproducer, $375 Please call if there are any questions. 541-926-2843 or 541-974-2836 Thanks, Jerry Blais
[Phono-L] Tablestops FS
Selling 3 Antique Wind-up Phonographs, Tabletop, Victrola, Victor VV-XI, VV-X, VV-50. All work and good condition. See xtra text for pics and URL. At one time I collected all the table top Victrolas. These are my last 3, all complete and working. The XI is fairly rare..hard to find..mahogany...all gold hardware, beauty!..$800. The VV-X is also fairly rare mahogany and has original key..$650. The VV-50 is a neat suitcase portable victrola in Oak..$425. Im selling many other things too as I have time to inventory them. Go to URL below for many pictures. http://members.cox.net/rkruz/VV-12/index.html http://members.cox.net/rkruz2/VV-50/index.html http://members.cox.net/rkruz/VV-XI/index.shtml Robert rk...@cox.net
[Phono-L] Zonophone For Sale
Hello, all. It's time to get rid of a few things, so I am starting off with a Zonophone Parlor Front Mount. This is a nice machine with a supernice decal and original finish. It has a reproduction horn, reproducer, crank, support arm. Price is negotiable with possible trade. I am looking for a large Victor front mount horn. I have the extension arm and long tonearm, but need the right horn. I also need an oak spearip horn for Victor. I will be selling more items soon. Take a look at some sample pics at http://members.aol.com/filerphono/parlor1.jpg http://members.aol.com/filerphono/parlor2.jpg If interested, email for more pictures. Thanks, Joe Filer From AaronAlva Mon Apr 12 08:36:38 2004 From: AaronAlva (aarona...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Zonophone For Sale Message-ID: c.2649845b.2dabf...@aol.com In a message dated 4/11/2004 10:26:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, filerph...@aol.com writes: I also need an oak spearip horn for Victor. I will be selling more items soon. Take a look at I have never seen a speartip horn for a Vic 1. How is it different than the horn for a Vic 111 or V. From vtm12 Mon Apr 12 19:17:43 2004 From: vtm12 (Vince Capobianco) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Zonophone For Sale References: c.2649845b.2dabf...@aol.com Message-ID: 000a01c420ec$bdbf7b70$17925...@cn487534a I think you read it wrong. It is a Speartip for a Victor then a period and new sentence. I read it the same way at first. - Original Message - From: aarona...@aol.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Zonophone For Sale In a message dated 4/11/2004 10:26:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, filerph...@aol.com writes: I also need an oak spearip horn for Victor. I will be selling more items soon. Take a look at I have never seen a speartip horn for a Vic 1. How is it different than the horn for a Vic 111 or V. ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] OT-new scam (not ebay!)
Folks, I just got this fishy email this morning. I got very suspicious when it asked for my bank info, and after doing a web search on it it was definitely a scam. And this isn't ebay either! These scammers are really trying to go the extra mile, so if you see anything like this pop up in your inbox, just hit the delete key: MEGA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL PROMOTION/PRIZE AWARD DEPT. REF Number : MLI/231-ILGI0431/03 BATCH Number : EAPA/15/096/PTNL TICKET Number : 20511465897-6291 SERIAL Number : 472-971103 LUCKY Number : 8-66-97-22-71-64 RE: WINNING FINAL NOTIFICATION Dear Winner, We are pleased to inform you of the result of the Lottery Winners International programs held on the 6th of April 2004. Your E-mail address attached to Ticket number 20511465897-6291 with Serial number 472-971103 drew lucky numbers 8-66-97-22-71-64 which consequently won in the 2nd category, you have therefore been approved for a lump sum payout of US$ 1,500,000.00 (One Million ,Five hundred Thousand United States Dollars).This is from a total cash prize of USD$15,000,000.00 Million share among Ten International Lucky Winners in the Category A ( Plus )+ . CONGRATULATIONS!!! Be inform that your documents have to pass our Authority to obtain a clearance which shall be attached to your Document in readiness of the subsequently onward transfer into your nominated bank account with 24 hours of completion of the authentication. Due to mix up of some numbers and names, we ask that you keep your winning information very confidential till your claims has been processed as the Beneficiary Certificate Ownership Winning Notification, Stamp duties and re-activation of Account of your prize /money remitted in readiness of the subsequently onward transfer into your nominated Bank Account. This is in conformity with the latest transfer regulation signed by the Organisation / Netherlands Government since this is part of our Security protocol measures to avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some participants. All participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn from over 100,000,000 Companies and 200,000,000 individual email addresses and names from all over the world,through the aid of our insurance Company This promotional program takes place annually. We hope you will take part in our next year USD$45 Million International lottery. To file for your claim, please contact our /your fiducial agent Mr. RAYMOND LEWIS of the EURO ACCREDITED PAYMENT AGENT TEL: +31-630-985-937 FAX: +31-641-593-184 Email: raymonle...@mail2raymond.com NOTE: That all winning must be claimed not later than 5th of June 2004. After this date all unclaimed, funds will be included in the next stake.Anybody under the age of 18 is automatically disqualified. Finally, we ensure that you note every letters as clearly stated as we would not be held responsible should there be hitch in this transaction due laxity on your part.So you are to expedite action, Failure to do this we shall be compelled to lose your fund in other words,we shall divert your fund to somewhere else.In order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications;Kindly remember to quote your reference number and batch numbers in all correspondence. Furthermore, should there be any change of address do inform our agent as soon as possible. Congratulations once more from our members of staff and thank you for being part of our promotional program. Yours Truly, Mrs. Estella Rogers Lottery Coordinator _ Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health Wellness for information and advice. http://gerd.msn.com/default.asp
[Phono-L] OT-new scam (not ebay!)
In a message dated 4/13/04 9:21:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ryansrecor...@hotmail.com writes: I just got this fishy email this morning. I got very suspicious when it asked for my bank info, and after doing a web search on it it was definitely a scam. Check out http://www.scamorama.com/lotto.html for more. And for some good laughs, read some of the anti-scammer baiting stories on the main page: www.scamorama.com. Best regards, Rene Rondeau From smille1 Tue Apr 13 11:37:31 2004 From: smille1 (Sean Miller) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] OT-new scam (not ebay!) Message-ID: 1295470.1081874329078.javamail.administra...@atp2 I have not only gotten a few of these lottery ones, but also those letters from other countries asking for donations to help certain causes. After more than three years with this e-mail address, these have been the first scam e-mails I have ever gotten...and they're getting more and more clever! Sean On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:20:40 -0600 Ryan Barna ryansrecor...@hotmail.com wrote. Folks, I just got this fishy email this morning. I got very suspicious when it asked for my bank info, and after doing a web search on it it was definitely a scam. And this isn't ebay either! These scammers are really trying to go the extra mile, so if you see anything like this pop up in your inbox, just hit the delete key: MEGA LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL PROMOTION/PRIZE AWARD DEPT. REF Number : MLI/231-ILGI0431/03 BATCH Number : EAPA/15/096/PTNL TICKET Number : 20511465897-6291 SERIAL Number : 472-971103 LUCKY Number : 8-66-97-22-71-64 RE: WINNING FINAL NOTIFICATION Dear Winner, We are pleased to inform you of the result of the Lottery Winners International programs held on the 6th of April 2004. Your E-mail address attached to Ticket number 20511465897-6291 with Serial number 472-971103 drew lucky numbers 8-66-97-22-71-64 which consequently won in the 2nd category, you have therefore been approved for a lump sum payout of US$ 1,500,000.00 (One Million ,Five hundred Thousand United States Dollars).This is from a total cash prize of USD$15,000,000.00 Million share among Ten International Lucky Winners in the Category A ( Plus ) . CONGRATULATIONS!!! Be inform that your documents have to pass our Authority to obtain a clearance which shall be attached to your Document in readiness of the subsequently onward transfer into your nominated bank account with 24 hours of completion of the authentication. Due to mix up of some numbers and names, we ask that you keep your winning information very confidential till your claims has been processed as the Beneficiary Certificate Ownership Winning Notification, Stamp duties and re-activation of Account of your prize /money remitted in readiness of the subsequently onward transfer into your nominated Bank Account. This is in conformity with the latest transfer regulation signed by the Organisation / Netherlands Government since this is part of our Security protocol measures to avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some participants. All participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn from over 100,000,000 Companies and 200,000,000 individual email addresses and names from all over the world,through the aid of our insurance Company This promotional program takes place annually. We hope you will take part in our next year USD$45 Million International lottery. To file for your claim, please contact our /your fiducial agent Mr. RAYMOND LEWIS of the EURO ACCREDITED PAYMENT AGENT TEL: 31-630-985-937 FAX: 31-641-593-184 Email: raymonle...@mail2raymond.com NOTE: That all winning must be claimed not later than 5th of June 2004. After this date all unclaimed, funds will be included in the next stake.Anybody under the age of 18 is automatically disqualified. Finally, we ensure that you note every letters as clearly stated as we would not be held responsible should there be hitch in this transaction due laxity on your part.So you are to expedite action, Failure to do this we shall be compelled to lose your fund in other words,we shall divert your fund to somewhere else.In order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications;Kindly remember to quote your reference number and batch numbers in all correspondence. Furthermore, should there be any change of address do inform our agent as soon as possible. Congratulations once more from our members of staff and thank you for being part of our promotional program. Yours Truly, Mrs. Estella Rogers Lottery Coordinator _ Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health Wellness for information and advice. http://gerd.msn.com/default.asp ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Square Top Edison Standard question
I have first crack at an Early Square Top Standard but need some advice. The cabinet is in nice shape but the back quarter has been replaced many years ago, it is a good match but it certainly detracts from the originality of the machine. The mechanism itself needs some help. There is no reproducer and no horn and the carriage will need to be replaced because half of it is missing(cracked in half at the reproducer holder portion). The original sloted black winding crank is with it, but the single spring motor will not wind up and the crank just turns freely with an occasional springing noise like the spring is broken inside theSpring case. Everything else looks intact, and assuming what I listed above is the extent of the problems, and assuming that I am interested in a no frills replacements (a C reproducer is just fine rather then tracking down an original) can someone give me a good ballpark figure to offer for this machine. These machines do not surface that often, and it would be a nice addition to my Edison Collection given that it has the early Square top case. Thanks in advance for your help. Bruce From john9ten Tue Apr 13 18:30:38 2004 From: john9ten (john robles) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Square Top Edison Standard question In-Reply-To: 001601c421ad$62935ca0$30862...@ne2.client2.attbi.com Message-ID: 20040413233035.59467.qm...@web80604.mail.yahoo.com Hi Bruce I had an original lovely square top which I got on eBay for $475 with all original parts, but it had a C reproducer and repro horn. I later bought another with no reproducer and a repro horn for $500. Based on these experiences about two and four years ago, I would start at $250 and bargain up to maybe $350-$375. You may be able to get a complete case bottom later on. John Robles bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: I have first crack at an Early Square Top Standard but need some advice. The cabinet is in nice shape but the back quarter has been replaced many years ago, it is a good match but it certainly detracts from the originality of the machine. The mechanism itself needs some help. There is no reproducer and no horn and the carriage will need to be replaced because half of it is missing(cracked in half at the reproducer holder portion). The original sloted black winding crank is with it, but the single spring motor will not wind up and the crank just turns freely with an occasional springing noise like the spring is broken inside theSpring case. Everything else looks intact, and assuming what I listed above is the extent of the problems, and assuming that I am interested in a no frills replacements (a C reproducer is just fine rather then tracking down an original) can someone give me a good ballpark figure to offer for this machine. These machines do not surface that often, and it would be a nice addition to my Edison Collection given that it has the early Square top case. Thanks in advance for your help. Bruce ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From lherault Tue Apr 13 19:10:09 2004 From: lherault (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Square Top Edison Standard question In-Reply-To: 20040413233035.59467.qm...@web80604.mail.yahoo.com Message-ID: 005f01c421b4$d52ea3d0$5d5ed...@ronlherault $250 was my first thought also. Replacement parts and mechanical repairs will bring it up to its normal value. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:31 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Square Top Edison Standard question Hi Bruce I had an original lovely square top which I got on eBay for $475 with all original parts, but it had a C reproducer and repro horn. I later bought another with no reproducer and a repro horn for $500. Based on these experiences about two and four years ago, I would start at $250 and bargain up to maybe $350-$375. You may be able to get a complete case bottom later on. John Robles bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: I have first crack at an Early Square Top Standard but need some advice. The cabinet is in nice shape but the back quarter has been replaced many years ago, it is a good match but it certainly detracts from the originality of the machine. The mechanism itself needs some help. There is no reproducer and no horn and the carriage will need to be replaced because half of it is missing(cracked in half at the reproducer holder portion). The original sloted black winding crank is with it, but the single spring motor will not wind up and the crank just turns freely with an occasional springing noise like the spring is broken inside theSpring case. Everything else looks intact, and assuming what I listed above is the extent of the problems, and assuming that
[Phono-L] I need to get a new stylus for my Model R reproducer.
Good afternoon everyone. I have an Edison model R reproducer with a worn stylus. Does anyone on the group know where I can get a new one? Do the stylus for the reproducers on cylinder phonographs install the same way that stylus for DD reproducers do? I am feeling brave and thought that I might try to replace it myself. Thank you. Tom From Keith.Carter Mon Apr 19 07:46:00 2004 From: Keith.Carter (Carter, Keith) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Claymont Show? Message-ID: 97c7ef59a387d6118a8a000802564c4603169...@hqgtnexch1.hr.doe.gov Well, I thought I would be the first to ask if anyone went to the Claymont Show Sunday, AND Did they get anything nice? keith From Gpaul2000 Mon Apr 19 11:45:18 2004 From: Gpaul2000 (gpaul2...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Claymont Show? Message-ID: 3d.3d6d73ae.2db55...@aol.com One man's nice is another man's junk, but I happen to like 1912-1915 Diamond Disc machines. I bought a decent A-80 (with no reproducer) out of the back of a guy's car in the parking lot for $125.00. The interesting part is that it has a METAL grille. I've never heard of such a thing, and was suspicious, but it's real. The downside was that it was missing its brake and speed control knob. An hour later in the show, a junky B-80 turned up (cabinet missing 1/2 its veneer) missing reproducer and crank but otherwise complete (with brake and speed control knob) and running - for 20 bucks. What are the chances? I found a couple of neat paper items, and another part I needed for a machine back home. Good show for me...! George Paul From Zonophone2002 Mon Apr 19 17:30:07 2004 From: Zonophone2002 (zonophone2...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Claymont Show? Message-ID: 21.3d357fae.2db5a...@aol.com hi george et all i had the same luck at union i bought a bvt there a few years ago but not the correct horn and low and behold right next to that dealer was the correct horn that horn is uncommon so to find it next to the first one is wild i am sure we all have interesting luck at shows like this too best to all rob From kbab Mon Apr 19 19:19:34 2004 From: kbab (Ken Brekke) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] gold plating question Message-ID: 001601c4266d$1b61c6e0$e7d4b...@oemcomputer Hello to all, I am in the middle of restoring an oak Puritan and want to know about the plating on the parts. They look gold plated but maybe in a satin finish. Does anyone know where the parts can be replated in the correct gold finish? Or of a home kit? I tried the Caswell plating kit but it leaves the higher gloss finish. Most platers I have contacted only do the high gloss gold plating. Thanks, Ken From ddazer Mon Apr 19 19:26:53 2004 From: ddazer (David Dazer) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] gold plating question In-Reply-To: 001601c4266d$1b61c6e0$e7d4b...@oemcomputer Message-ID: 20040420002654.85659.qm...@web80004.mail.yahoo.com Hi Ken, This has come up before and I think most everyone agreed that the gloss was toned down with a semi gloss clear coat. A friend of mine restored a Diamond Disc machine that was all inlaid and gold plated. He put Semi-Gloss Deft on the parts and it turned out just what he was looking for. Hope this helps. Dave Dazer Ken Brekke k...@g2a.net wrote: Hello to all, I am in the middle of restoring an oak Puritan and want to know about the plating on the parts. They look gold plated but maybe in a satin finish. Does anyone know where the parts can be replated in the correct gold finish? Or of a home kit? I tried the Caswell plating kit but it leaves the higher gloss finish. Most platers I have contacted only do the high gloss gold plating. Thanks, Ken ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From lherault Mon Apr 19 20:51:34 2004 From: lherault (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] gold plating question In-Reply-To: 001601c4266d$1b61c6e0$e7d4b...@oemcomputer Message-ID: 003801c42679$fd9d76b0$dc5ed...@ronlherault Photographers use an anti-glare spray that is water soluble. Maybe that would matte it enough. A coat of amber shellac will also mute the shine a bit. Ron l -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of Ken Brekke Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:19 PM To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: [Phono-L] gold plating question Hello to all, I am in the middle of restoring an oak Puritan and want to know about the plating on the parts. They look gold plated but maybe in a satin finish. Does anyone know where the parts can be replated in the correct gold finish? Or of a home kit? I tried the Caswell plating kit but it leaves the higher gloss finish. Most platers I have contacted only do the high gloss gold plating. Thanks, Ken
[Phono-L] gold plating question
I have heard that running your solution through a charcoal filter before plating (a fishtank filter with charcoal in it will work) will take away the brightness. I'd be curious to know wether or not this really works. The fellow at Caswell plating would know. I've had tuba mouthpieces plated in gold with a satin finish on them - it's been awhile, but I think Anderson Plating out of Elkhart, IN did the work - turned out quite nice. Matt Brown www.misterphonograph.com - Original Message - From: Ken Brekke k...@g2a.net To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: [Phono-L] gold plating question Hello to all, I am in the middle of restoring an oak Puritan and want to know about the plating on the parts. They look gold plated but maybe in a satin finish. Does anyone know where the parts can be replated in the correct gold finish? Or of a home kit? I tried the Caswell plating kit but it leaves the higher gloss finish. Most platers I have contacted only do the high gloss gold plating. Thanks, Ken ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] gold plating question
it will also filter out all the gold from the solution as well From lherault Tue Apr 20 07:37:35 2004 From: lherault (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] gold plating question In-Reply-To: 002701c42687$c0afbe80$157af...@w2q9r0 Message-ID: nhbblpolelmeebaifohfcemfedaa.lhera...@bu.edu The other obvious way to go is to give a satin finish to the metal before plating. Plating only covers the surface, other than the fact that nickel can be used to make things appear shiner first, if a surface is dull, the plated surface will be dull. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com]on Behalf Of Matt Brown Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:30 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] gold plating question I have heard that running your solution through a charcoal filter before plating (a fishtank filter with charcoal in it will work) will take away the brightness. I'd be curious to know wether or not this really works. The fellow at Caswell plating would know. I've had tuba mouthpieces plated in gold with a satin finish on them - it's been awhile, but I think Anderson Plating out of Elkhart, IN did the work - turned out quite nice. Matt Brown www.misterphonograph.com - Original Message - From: Ken Brekke k...@g2a.net To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: [Phono-L] gold plating question Hello to all, I am in the middle of restoring an oak Puritan and want to know about the plating on the parts. They look gold plated but maybe in a satin finish. Does anyone know where the parts can be replated in the correct gold finish? Or of a home kit? I tried the Caswell plating kit but it leaves the higher gloss finish. Most platers I have contacted only do the high gloss gold plating. Thanks, Ken ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Claymont Show?
I'll post my report _ as a seller (One of George's neat paper items came from me g) _ soon. But would be interested in a report on the Danbury CT show. I can't make Wayne this week - too far - but will look for a report. Though it's small - I THINK 40 dealers, I was told that dealer space is sold out. Too bad you can't get there by train or plane. Only car. Steve From Phonofolks Tue Apr 20 12:24:31 2004 From: Phonofolks (phonofo...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Claymont Show? Message-ID: 371fca02.6ba638c4.0c612...@aol.com If you make arrangements with someone to pick you up, you can probably get off at the Metropark train station which I believ is the closest station to Wayne(?). I think its about 30 miles away via the highway, unless there is a back road that cuts down on the traveling time. In a message dated 4/20/2004 9:08:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, srsel...@aol.com writes: Too bad you can't get there by train or plane. Only car. Steve ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Re:Edison Diamond Disc A/B 80
A couple of days ago, in answering a query about the Claymont show, I mentioned that a Diamond Disc A-80 with a metal grille turned up there. After perusing George Frow's Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs for 22 years, the photo on page 42 finally jumped out at me. It shows an A - or B-80 (Frow didn't specify) with a metal grille. This begs research, and I'm asking for your help. I'll be pleased to share the results with the group as well, if there's sufficient response to draw any conclusions. Off list (so as not to drive the disinterested out of their minds), I'd appreciate hearing from you Phono-L folks with A-80s or B-80s in your collections. If you own one of these models, PLEASE email with the model number (A - or B-80), its serial number, and the type of grille (wooden or metal). I'd like to learn where the serial numbers switched from the A-80 to the B-80, and I'd especially like to know if those metal grilles are found on both models. Even if we determine only the approximate serial number where the A production ended and the B production began, we'll be able to gauge whether our own examples are early/mid/late production. Even that much would be helpful. Thanks very much! George Paul gpaul2...@aol.com From ryansrecords1 Wed Apr 21 00:31:48 2004 From: ryansrecords1 (Ryan Barna) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] FS--Santa Hides in Phonograph Message-ID: bay13-f57x25olqwytm0...@hotmail.com I have an extra copy of a picture and verse card of Santa Claus Hides in the Phonograph, originally part of the Little Tots Nursery Tunes set of The Christmas Book (#5). The card has a nice illustration by Maud Trube of Santa with his bag of toys coming out of a Victrola with children gathered around it. On the back are the words to the poem. There's a small 0.6 inch tear on the top towards the right hand corner with only a few traces of wear that doesn't distract very much. Overall, a very good condition card and a great piece to display with your collection (or maybe an interesting Christmas present). If this were a record I'd grade it a V++ (conservatively). You can see a picture of it right here: http://www.pixhost.com/pixr/revlon1/santa.jpg Note: I placed the paperclip there for security reasons and I'm not using it to hide any defects. My description is absolutely guaranteed or else a full refund. I don't feel like ebaying it, so I thought I'd offer it to the list. I'd like $8 for it plus $2 for First Class SH in the U.S. First one to contact me off list gets it. -Ryan ryansrecor...@hotmail.com _ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/
[Phono-L] SOLD--Santa Hides in Phonograph
I've had quite a few people hop on this one. If I ever find another one I'll definitely let you guys know about it. -Ryan From: Ryan Barna ryansrecor...@hotmail.com Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com To: phon...@oldcrank.com Subject: [Phono-L] FS--Santa Hides in Phonograph Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:31:51 -0600 I have an extra copy of a picture and verse card of Santa Claus Hides in the Phonograph, originally part of the Little Tots Nursery Tunes set of The Christmas Book (#5). The card has a nice illustration by Maud Trube of Santa with his bag of toys coming out of a Victrola with children gathered around it. On the back are the words to the poem. There's a small 0.6 inch tear on the top towards the right hand corner with only a few traces of wear that doesn't distract very much. Overall, a very good condition card and a great piece to display with your collection (or maybe an interesting Christmas present). If this were a record I'd grade it a V++ (conservatively). You can see a picture of it right here: http://www.pixhost.com/pixr/revlon1/santa.jpg Note: I placed the paperclip there for security reasons and I'm not using it to hide any defects. My description is absolutely guaranteed or else a full refund. I don't feel like ebaying it, so I thought I'd offer it to the list. I'd like $8 for it plus $2 for First Class SH in the U.S. First one to contact me off list gets it. -Ryan ryansrecor...@hotmail.com _ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com _ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/
[Phono-L] Thomas Edison's Business card
the guy has a small raft of famous-guy cards on offer, all with lousy blurry pictures, and zero feedback. smells funny to me. On Apr 23, 2004, at 9:49 PM, Steven Medved wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3x43r What do you think? Steve
[Phono-L] Thomas Edison's Business card
--- Dennis Back wrote: These sets of fake cards were produced about ten-fifteen years ago. The cards were mounted and framed. and they are still being reproduced and sold today at: http://www.alphabetsoup.biz/cardscience.htm Dennis (again) ;-) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash
[Phono-L] Thomas Edison's Business card
Is this the same guy that was printing 'Phonograph Diplomas'? John Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com wrote: --- Dennis Back wrote: These sets of fake cards were produced about ten-fifteen years ago. The cards were mounted and framed. and they are still being reproduced and sold today at: http://www.alphabetsoup.biz/cardscience.htm Dennis (again) ;-) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From steve_noreen Sat Apr 24 02:23:27 2004 From: steve_noreen (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Thomas Edison's Business card References: 20040424050056.55667.qm...@web40802.mail.yahoo.com Message-ID: bay4-dav76upm0rnzxo00017...@hotmail.com Hi Dennis, I am impressed by your keen observation, and appreciate the information you so thoughtfully provided. Thanks, Steve ROFLMAO.Actually, this is from a series of made-up cards. You can see WILLIAM RANOLPH HEARST card below it, and the Standard Oil Chairman card above it on the same picture. These sets of fake cards were produced about ten-fifteen years ago. The cards were mounted and framed. Dennis
[Phono-L] Thomas Edison's Business card
- Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Thomas Edison's Business card http://tinyurl.com/3x43r What do you think? Steve Considering it's a type face that's very 1960's. I doubt very much an authentic card would be so plain. Don
[Phono-L] Thomas Edison's Business card
I'm just plain baffled as to why anyone would want obviously fake business cards. But hey, I'm willing to print fake Edison business cards at half the price and twice the quality. Get 'em now for only $250 ea! Loran On Apr 23, 2004, at 10:08 PM, Dennis Back wrote: --- Dennis Back wrote: These sets of fake cards were produced about ten-fifteen years ago. The cards were mounted and framed. and they are still being reproduced and sold today at: http://www.alphabetsoup.biz/cardscience.htm Dennis (again) ;-)
[Phono-L] Thomas Edison's Business card
I am amazed at the price. Steve Considering it's a type face that's very 1960's. I doubt very much an authentic card would be so plain. Don I'm just plain baffled as to why anyone would want obviously fake business cards. But hey, I'm willing to print fake Edison business cards at half the price and twice the quality. Get 'em now for only $250 ea! Loran
[Phono-L] OTAPS Meeting
Hello Phononuts, On May 8th, there is a meeting of the Oregon Territory Phonograph Society. I have recently seen a few names of Northwest collectors that are unfamilar to me and wondered if they would like to come to an OTAPS meeting. It should be a very informal and pleasant event open to anyone interested in old phonographs and records. Please contact me off list for details. Thanks, Jerry Blais
[Phono-L] Looking for Record Cleaning suggestions
David: I don't do vinyl, so I'll limit my comments to 78s. There are various expensive and/or high-tech, and no doubt several secret methods out there for cleaning 78s. There might even be the RIGHT WAY, espoused with religious zeal by some. I keep coming back to a weak mixture of grease-cutting dish detergent and lukewarm water. Prepare a basin with these two ingredients - the depth no more than 4 or 5 inches - and get your tap water running slowly at the same temperature as the basin water. Place your dirty record edgewise in the basin, being sure that the soapy water does not come up to the level of the paper label (thus the 4-5 inch depth). Slowly rotate the record, while gently brushing back forth in the direction of the grooves with a soft toothbrush or similar tool. Repeat on opposite side, if appropriate. Don't worry if a little water runs over the label. When the recorded areas have been soaked/brushed, go over entire surface - including label - with a clean sponge or rag soaked in the dishwater and immediately rinse with running water. Put in a dish drainer or wire record holder to drip a few minutes, then gently dry with a clean, soft towel. Allow to air dry for an hour or so, depending on humidity. Just be certain the record is dry before putting it in a sleeve or cabinet. It's not fancy, but it does the job - and I've never had a bad experience with this method. Hope this is helpful, and have fun - George Paul From Gpaul2000 Mon Apr 26 15:38:47 2004 From: Gpaul2000 (gpaul2...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison A/B-80 Survey Results Message-ID: 145.27f5649d.2dbec...@aol.com It's been a week or so, and I've heard from exactly TWO people about their Diamond Disc A-80 and B-80 machines. They can't be THAT rare! Just in case you missed it, I'm trying to compile some information on these interesting machines to be shared with the list. If you own (or have access to) an Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph A-80 or B-80, please send me its model number, serial number, and type of grille (wooden or metal). I'll share results - regardless of how little - in a week or so. Thanks, George Paul From tvenetis Tue Apr 27 13:22:22 2004 From: tvenetis (Tim) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] main spring question Message-ID: 001601c42c84$8892be00$ef9a5...@toshibauser I was wondering on a gem what is the best way to wind up a main spring so I can put the shaft in the motor thanks From maxbud12 Tue Apr 27 18:09:31 2004 From: maxbud12 (Bruce Mercer) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Record Cleaning References: e1bivwg-0005fr...@t2.cwihosting.com Message-ID: 001401c42cac$bd5cf740$52e2f...@sigecom.net If you should collect Edison Diamond discs, 'never' use water to clean them. Use only denatured alcohol. They have a laminated core and the water will cause them to swell. The factory specifically stated to use alcohol to clean the discs. Today, most OTC alcohol has some amount of water in it. Denatured alcohol on a piece of plush velvet using paper towels in between for very dirty discs and finish off with a dry piece of plush velvet will make them sparkle. I would also be afraid to get any laminated record too wet. I'm thinking of Columbia herebut there were others. They were laminated on paper from the mid twenties, or possibly earlier.maybe somebody else knows when they started. I definitely would not submerge them though. Damp cloth and dry immediately. YMMV Bruce
[Phono-L] address needed
Good evening: Does anyone have Ron Sitko's address and phone number. I may be spelling his last name wrong as I can't find my file. Your help is appreciated. Bob From estott Wed Apr 28 04:06:59 2004 From: estott (Eric Stott) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] address needed References: 001101c42cd3$4ea6c390$931b9...@maffit Message-ID: 008701c42d00$2dbbd170$43e6f...@s0027474218 I believe it's Ronald Sitko 26 Tekakwitha Ct Clifton Pk NY 12065 518 371 8549 Eric Stott, Albany. - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:45 PM Subject: [Phono-L] address needed Good evening: Does anyone have Ron Sitko's address and phone number. I may be spelling his last name wrong as I can't find my file. Your help is appreciated. Bob ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] address needed
Eric: Thanks - Original Message - From: Eric Stott est...@localnet.com To: Antique Phonograph List phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] address needed I believe it's Ronald Sitko 26 Tekakwitha Ct Clifton Pk NY 12065 518 371 8549 Eric Stott, Albany. - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: phon...@oldcrank.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:45 PM Subject: [Phono-L] address needed Good evening: Does anyone have Ron Sitko's address and phone number. I may be spelling his last name wrong as I can't find my file. Your help is appreciated. Bob ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com ___ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Phono Auction Prices
Hello all: If you need a copy of Phonograph Auction Prices, 2004 edition, in preparation for the Union show or whatever, let me know soon. I am now packing up the few remaining copies, along with my entire collection, in preparation for a move with the wife to the Atlanta area shortly. With the kids and grandkids there, we decided to make the move, and she has given me the job of packing up some sixty machines and many boxes of records. No fun. The book is still $28 plus $2 postage, and you can use PayPal. Let me know if you want more information on it. Thanks, Ray Wilenzick rwilenz...@cox.net From Bhhodges Thu Apr 29 14:37:50 2004 From: Bhhodges (bhhod...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono Auction Prices Message-ID: 5a.2ac202c3.2dc2b...@aol.com ray, we have a local chaper of maps based in the atlanta area. bill From Aph4990 Thu Apr 29 17:06:41 2004 From: Aph4990 (aph4...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono Auction Prices Message-ID: 1ca.1f9de2ad.2dc2d...@aol.com Hi Ray, So you really are moving to Atlanta. I hope to see you there since our daughter will be moving there with her husband in July. So now the real question...How in the world do you safely move a collection like yours? Sounds scary to me. Just wondered. ---Art From BLNapshin Thu Apr 29 23:28:10 2004 From: BLNapshin (blnaps...@aol.com) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Moving a collection Message-ID: 6b.283ff79c.2dc32...@aol.com In a message dated 4/29/04 3:07:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, aph4...@aol.com writes: So you really are moving to Atlanta. I hope to see you there since our daughter will be moving there with her husband in July. So now the real question...How in the world do you safely move a collection like yours? Sounds scary to me. Just wondered Years and years ago, we moved a pretty good sized collection from Chicago to Florida. We boxed just about everything. We used lots and lots of padding and put the metal horns inside each other with padding. The wooden horns were most delicate and were very, very carefully boxed, each wooden horn all alone in a box with all sorts of supporting padding. We packed it into a truck and drove it, ourselves. Sharon and Barry Napshin From klinger Fri Apr 30 17:12:28 2004 From: klinger (Bill Klinger) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] ARSC -- Special Advertising Opportunity Message-ID: 011c01c42f00$3105b6a0$ac62b...@billqbszr49l7m The following message has been posted on behalf of the ARSC Advertising Manager, Martin Fisher. If you have any questions or wish to advertise in any ARSC publications, please contact Martin at nip...@infionline.net. Please DO NOT simply hit REPLY, or post further messages to this list. The Association for Recorded Sound Collections is currently offering a special, high-value advertising opportunity. For just $150, you can place a full-page advertisement in the 2004-2005 ARSC Membership Directory. This is the same rate normally charged for a full-page ad in the ARSC Journal, which is published twice a year. However, the Directory is ARSC?s most frequently consulted publication and remains in use for at least two years. Your ad will gain broad, continuing exposure in the Directory, which provides detailed contact information for nearly 1000 individual and institutional members in 28 countries. DEADLINE for ADVERTISING Please hurry! Publication-ready artwork must be received no later than May 14, 2004. To reserve space and arrange payment, please contact Martin Fisher, ARSC Advertising Manager, at nip...@infionline.net or (615) 315-0611. PAGE SIZE and AD SIZE The ARSC Membership Directory is a perfect-bound book, 6 inches wide by 9 inches high, with half-inch margins. Full-page ads should be formatted and scaled to a maximum width of 4-1/2 inches and a maximum height of 7-1/8 inches. SUBMISSION of ARTWORK Your artwork file may be sent as an e-mail attachment (JPEG, TIF, PDF, Rich Text, etc.), directly to the printer, at kather...@annapolispublishing.com. The Subject Line of the e-mail message should read ?ARSC 2004-2005 Directory? and the message should be cc?d to nip...@infionline.net and shambar...@sprynet.com. Artwork may also be submitted on disk (QuarkXpress, Adobe PageMaker, etc.) or as camera-ready hard copy. Please contact the printer for specific formatting and mailing instructions. Any extra production work needed to reformat or amend layouts will require an additional $30.00 fee. All advertising copy and graphics are subject to editorial approval. ADDITIONAL ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITIES Advertising rates and deadlines for the scholarly ARSC Journal and the informal ARSC Newsletter may be found at http://www.arsc-audio.org/rates.html. The Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC) is a non-profit organization dedicated to
