Re: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations

[Ricky Prevatte]

One more thing whatever computer you get be sure to max out the ram it is not 
very expensive today. Are you using multiple hard drives for recording? If not 
you need a great FireWire drive or something very fast as I said  in my earlier 
post Sweetwater can advise what to do.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

> On Mar 1, 2016, at 10:13 AM, brian kijewski  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am looking to get a new mac computer and a control surface. I’m currently 
> still using my macbook pro from 2008 and it still works okay, but I think 
> it’s time to upgrade. I use Pro Tools 11 and Logic Pro.
> What would be the difference in performance with a dual core vs. quad core? I 
> currently have 4GB of memory, Is there a big difference between 8GB and 16GB?
> Also wondering if anyone here uses a Macbook Air or Mac Mini for Pro Tools?
> I’m considering this
> Laptop Computer with 15.4" Retina Display, Force Touch Trackpad, 2.2GHz 
> Quad-core Intel Core i7 Processor, 256GB Flash Storage, 16GB Memory, 2 USB 
> 3.0, and 2 Thunderbolt Ports 
> I also plan on purchasing a control surface. Automating with the keyboard is 
> just not cutting it anymore LOL. Any suggestions for a good one? I’d be 
> willing to spend between $500-$1000.
> All feedback would be greatly appreciated,
> Thanks
> 
> Brian
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Re: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations

[Ricky Prevatte]

When it comes to a Mac computer I would definitely never be under an ice seven 
processor if I were spending money. I would keep what you have until I could do 
that. Mac mini or more iMac or some kind of tower would be a strong upgrade I 
use the MCU pro.
If I were you I would call Sweetwater music and talk with them. They will  
consult with  you and tell you what to do even if you do not purchase anything 
from them at this time. I will say they do sell the Apple product and they have 
a great finance plan. They will support you for two years set everything up 
with you but will not train you but they have lots of great information at 
sweet care which is their support site. More and more experience in dealing 
with Blind Mac users just food for thought sometimes you can pay a little more 
to start out and get exactly what you need saving a headache and just enjoying 
or be productive in your studio.  You can find that Mackie used for the same 
price as the X touch. The faders are so quiet and the unit works so great I 
highly recommend that. What are you putting your audio into the machine with?
Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

> On Mar 1, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you're going back and forth between PT and Logic I would recommend the 
> Mackie MCU pro, I think you can get them for around $400 used. If you need 
> mic pre's and headphone all in one surface then you would have to let us know 
> your price range. I haven't heard of any using the Beranger piece with PT 
> myself, but then again, maybe some don't go that rout after putting such a 
> chunk of money into a good PT set up. Are you on the Pro Tools access list 
> for the blind?
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of brian kijewski
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:13 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations
> 
> Hello,
> I am looking to get a new mac computer and a control surface. I’m currently 
> still using my macbook pro from 2008 and it still works okay, but I think 
> it’s time to upgrade. I use Pro Tools 11 and Logic Pro.
> What would be the difference in performance with a dual core vs. quad core? I 
> currently have 4GB of memory, Is there a big difference between 8GB and 16GB?
> Also wondering if anyone here uses a Macbook Air or Mac Mini for Pro Tools?
> I’m considering this
> Laptop Computer with 15.4" Retina Display, Force Touch Trackpad, 2.2GHz 
> Quad-core Intel Core i7 Processor, 256GB Flash Storage, 16GB Memory, 2 USB 
> 3.0, and 2 Thunderbolt Ports I also plan on purchasing a control surface. 
> Automating with the keyboard is just not cutting it anymore LOL. Any 
> suggestions for a good one? I’d be willing to spend between $500-$1000.
> All feedback would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations

[TheOreoMonster]

The computer you configured should be plenty sufficient for pro tools.
While i have gotten away with mixing on my MBA  i wouldn't recommend
an air as  your only computer if you are trying to run a studio off of
it. A mac mini should be find but once again go for as much
ram/processor as you can afford. i7's in theory give you more
processing cores  and Both Pro Tools and logic seem to be multi thread
aware so imagine they can take advantage of such things. As for the
behringer X touch you will have to check their site to see if it has
Pro Tools/HUI support.  Otherwise you will be looking at something
used if you are wanting to stay far south of $1000.

On 3/1/16, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you're going back and forth between PT and Logic I would recommend the
> Mackie MCU pro, I think you can get them for around $400 used. If you need
> mic pre's and headphone all in one surface then you would have to let us
> know your price range. I haven't heard of any using the Beranger piece with
> PT myself, but then again, maybe some don't go that rout after putting such
> a chunk of money into a good PT set up. Are you on the Pro Tools access list
> for the blind?
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of brian kijewski
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:13 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations
>
> Hello,
> I am looking to get a new mac computer and a control surface. I’m currently
> still using my macbook pro from 2008 and it still works okay, but I think
> it’s time to upgrade. I use Pro Tools 11 and Logic Pro.
> What would be the difference in performance with a dual core vs. quad core?
> I currently have 4GB of memory, Is there a big difference between 8GB and
> 16GB?
> Also wondering if anyone here uses a Macbook Air or Mac Mini for Pro Tools?
> I’m considering this
> Laptop Computer with 15.4" Retina Display, Force Touch Trackpad, 2.2GHz
> Quad-core Intel Core i7 Processor, 256GB Flash Storage, 16GB Memory, 2 USB
> 3.0, and 2 Thunderbolt Ports I also plan on purchasing a control surface.
> Automating with the keyboard is just not cutting it anymore LOL. Any
> suggestions for a good one? I’d be willing to spend between $500-$1000.
> All feedback would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
>
> Brian
>
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RE: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations

[Poppa Bear]

If you're going back and forth between PT and Logic I would recommend the 
Mackie MCU pro, I think you can get them for around $400 used. If you need mic 
pre's and headphone all in one surface then you would have to let us know your 
price range. I haven't heard of any using the Beranger piece with PT myself, 
but then again, maybe some don't go that rout after putting such a chunk of 
money into a good PT set up. Are you on the Pro Tools access list for the blind?
-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
brian kijewski
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:13 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations

Hello,
I am looking to get a new mac computer and a control surface. I’m currently 
still using my macbook pro from 2008 and it still works okay, but I think it’s 
time to upgrade. I use Pro Tools 11 and Logic Pro.
What would be the difference in performance with a dual core vs. quad core? I 
currently have 4GB of memory, Is there a big difference between 8GB and 16GB?
Also wondering if anyone here uses a Macbook Air or Mac Mini for Pro Tools?
I’m considering this
Laptop Computer with 15.4" Retina Display, Force Touch Trackpad, 2.2GHz 
Quad-core Intel Core i7 Processor, 256GB Flash Storage, 16GB Memory, 2 USB 3.0, 
and 2 Thunderbolt Ports I also plan on purchasing a control surface. Automating 
with the keyboard is just not cutting it anymore LOL. Any suggestions for a 
good one? I’d be willing to spend between $500-$1000.
All feedback would be greatly appreciated, Thanks

Brian

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RE: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hello:

You might want to take a look at the Behringer X-Touch Control Surface.

Cheers.



-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
brian kijewski
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:13 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mac and Control Surface Recommendations

Hello,
I am looking to get a new mac computer and a control surface. I’m currently 
still using my macbook pro from 2008 and it still works okay, but I think it’s 
time to upgrade. I use Pro Tools 11 and Logic Pro.
What would be the difference in performance with a dual core vs. quad core? I 
currently have 4GB of memory, Is there a big difference between 8GB and 16GB?
Also wondering if anyone here uses a Macbook Air or Mac Mini for Pro Tools?
I’m considering this
Laptop Computer with 15.4" Retina Display, Force Touch Trackpad, 2.2GHz 
Quad-core Intel Core i7 Processor, 256GB Flash Storage, 16GB Memory, 2 USB 3.0, 
and 2 Thunderbolt Ports I also plan on purchasing a control surface. Automating 
with the keyboard is just not cutting it anymore LOL. Any suggestions for a 
good one? I’d be willing to spend between $500-$1000.
All feedback would be greatly appreciated, Thanks

Brian

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Mac and Control Surface Recommendations

[brian kijewski]

Hello,
I am looking to get a new mac computer and a control surface. I’m currently 
still using my macbook pro from 2008 and it still works okay, but I think it’s 
time to upgrade. I use Pro Tools 11 and Logic Pro.
What would be the difference in performance with a dual core vs. quad core? I 
currently have 4GB of memory, Is there a big difference between 8GB and 16GB?
Also wondering if anyone here uses a Macbook Air or Mac Mini for Pro Tools?
I’m considering this
Laptop Computer with 15.4" Retina Display, Force Touch Trackpad, 2.2GHz 
Quad-core Intel Core i7 Processor, 256GB Flash Storage, 16GB Memory, 2 USB 3.0, 
and 2 Thunderbolt Ports 
I also plan on purchasing a control surface. Automating with the keyboard is 
just not cutting it anymore LOL. Any suggestions for a good one? I’d be willing 
to spend between $500-$1000.
All feedback would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks

Brian

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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Ricky Prevatte]

I am considering that con.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

> On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
> 
>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>> 
>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>> 
>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post 
>>>>> a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend 
>>>>> for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently 
>>>>> using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one 
>>>>> terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be easy to use, 
>>>>> also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum set  any 
>>>>> recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
>>>>>> adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that 
>>>>>> gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>>>>>>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard 
>>>>>>> of that size.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the 
>>>>>>>> the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a 
>>>>>>>> sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard 
>>>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of 
>>>>>>>> pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a 
>>>>>>>> single button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 
>>>>>>>> or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could 
>>>>>>>>> just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short 
>>>>>>>>> cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
>>>>>>>>> Hotkey Matrix before?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[vanooit]

It looks and feels like a full.copy of the macky universal pro, but then up 
till 32 channels, and for several daws.

> Op 11 nov. 2015 om 22:13 heeft Ricky Prevatte <rickypreva...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I am considering that con.
> 
> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>> 
>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
>>> geschreven:
>>> 
>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>> 
>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post 
>>>>>> a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend 
>>>>>> for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently 
>>>>>> using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one 
>>>>>> terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be easy to 
>>>>>> use, also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum set  any 
>>>>>> recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a 
>>>>>>> little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like 
>>>>>>> reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces 
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>>>>>>>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard 
>>>>>>>> of that size.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with 
>>>>>>>>> the the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet 
>>>>>>>>> for a sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard 
>>>>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of 
>>>>>>>>> pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a 
>>>>>>>>> single button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 
>>>>>>>>> 145 or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could 
>>>>>>>>>> just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short 
>>>>>>>>>> cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>&

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I have heard about the Focus right interfaces that have 8 inputs and
was looking at getting one of these to replace my Digi 003 and one of the
artist control surface.  Would this configuration be accessible and from
the Digi 003's abilities would I lose any abilities?  Nick Gawronski
On Wed, November 11, 2015 3:41 pm, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
> It looks and feels like a full.copy of the macky universal pro, but then
> up till 32 channels, and for several daws.
>
>> Op 11 nov. 2015 om 22:13 heeft Ricky Prevatte <rickypreva...@gmail.com>
>> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> I am considering that con.
>>
>>
>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>>
>>>
>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het
>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control
>>>>>> surface. Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out
>>>>>>> how to post a new thread. So I am asking what surface
>>>>>>> controller would you recommend for a beginner? I am getting
>>>>>>> ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a Mac book Pro
>>>>>>> with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte hard
>>>>>>> drive. I am looking for something that will be easy to use,
>>>>>>> also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum set
>>>>>>> any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks note:
>>>>>>> looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster
>>>>>>>> <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot
>>>>>>>> markers and a little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns
>>>>>>>> me more in program like reaper that gives you a lot of
>>>>>>>> flexibility with assigning surfaces though.
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen
>>>>>>>>> <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there
>>>>>>>>> are no tactile markings so I think it would be  real easy
>>>>>>>>> to get lost with a keyboard of that size.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster
>>>>>>>>>> <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor
>>>>>>>>>> Keys pro Tools keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard is a standard computer keyboard with the Pro
>>>>>>>>>> Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the
>>>>>>>>>> normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat
>>>>>>>>>> sheet for a sighted person so they won’t have to
>>>>>>>>>> remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Vaughn Brown]

The controls seem to be accessible on the Mac, yes.

On 11/10/15, Nick Gawronski <n...@nickgawronski.com> wrote:
> Hi, I also have a Digi 003 with the moving fading controls that I would be
> willing to sell if anyone is interested as I will want something that is
> supported threw at least the next three versions or so of Pro Tools and if
> possible something that also will allow me to connect it to my windows
> system and record using programs that blind people use on the windows
> side of things.  I was hearing a lot of good things about the Artist
> control surfaces and the new USB interfaces but don't want to lose any
> inputs or outputs.  What is a good USB audio interface that has the same
> amount of inputs and outputs as the Digi 003?  I don't mind getting one
> that just works on the mac but would like something that works on both
> systems so I can take it around and use it different places with different
> systems.  Nick Gawronski
> On Tue, November 10, 2015 6:20 am, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> The 003 is still supported. There will come a time when it's not
>> officially supported but will still work but will not be tested with
>> subsequent versions of Pro Tools. At this time, I certainly wouldn't buy
>> a new one but you can still pick up a used one for considerably less than
>> what it sold for new. Slau
>>
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> But is it really a good idea to buy a 003 now seeing that it probably
>>> will be obsolete come v13? According to how the releases have been
>>> during the years i have had Pro tools, v13 may not be far off. /Krister
>>>
>>>
>>>> 10 nov. 2015 kl. 01:33 skrev Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 003 does work with PT 12.
>>>> Slau
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Does the Digidesign 003 not work with PT12? It has 8 ins, 4
>>>>> preamps, jog wheel, two headphone jacks with separate volume knobs
>>>>> and 8 motorized faders as well as fader flip mode. Like most all in
>>>>> one surfaces I think that the converters and the pres are a little
>>>>> week, but you can expand the converters via light pipe.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:10 AM
>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> email me off list and tell me more
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton
>>>>>>>>> <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control
>>>>>>>>> surface. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure
>>>>>>>>>> out how to post a new thread. So I am asking what surface
>>>>>>>>>> controller would you recommend for a beginner? I am
>>>>>>>>>> getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a
>>>>>>>>>> Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and
>>>>>>>>>> one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for some

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I also have a Digi 003 with the moving fading controls that I would be
willing to sell if anyone is interested as I will want something that is
supported threw at least the next three versions or so of Pro Tools and if
possible something that also will allow me to connect it to my windows
system and record using programs that blind people use on the windows 
side of things.  I was hearing a lot of good things about the Artist
control surfaces and the new USB interfaces but don't want to lose any
inputs or outputs.  What is a good USB audio interface that has the same
amount of inputs and outputs as the Digi 003?  I don't mind getting one
that just works on the mac but would like something that works on both
systems so I can take it around and use it different places with different
systems.  Nick Gawronski
On Tue, November 10, 2015 6:20 am, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> The 003 is still supported. There will come a time when it's not
> officially supported but will still work but will not be tested with
> subsequent versions of Pro Tools. At this time, I certainly wouldn't buy
> a new one but you can still pick up a used one for considerably less than
> what it sold for new. Slau
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> But is it really a good idea to buy a 003 now seeing that it probably
>> will be obsolete come v13? According to how the releases have been
>> during the years i have had Pro tools, v13 may not be far off. /Krister
>>
>>
>>> 10 nov. 2015 kl. 01:33 skrev Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>> The 003 does work with PT 12.
>>> Slau
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does the Digidesign 003 not work with PT12? It has 8 ins, 4
>>>> preamps, jog wheel, two headphone jacks with separate volume knobs
>>>> and 8 motorized faders as well as fader flip mode. Like most all in
>>>> one surfaces I think that the converters and the pres are a little
>>>> week, but you can expand the converters via light pipe.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:10 AM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> email me off list and tell me more
>>>>
>>>> On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton
>>>>>>>> <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control
>>>>>>>> surface. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure
>>>>>>>>> out how to post a new thread. So I am asking what surface
>>>>>>>>> controller would you recommend for a beginner? I am
>>>>>>>>> getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a
>>>>>>>>> Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and
>>>>>>>>> one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that
>>>>>>>>> will be easy to use, also, will be able to input drums
>>>>>>>>> microphones for my drum set  any recommendations would be
>>>>>>>>> greatly appreciated. Thanks note: looking at a price range
>>>>>>>>> from $700-$1500.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Chris Smart]

Right. Isn't that an audio interface, not a control surface?
And, can I ask, is the Mix Control software for the Saffire range
accessible on the Mac? It is under Windows, but only with Jaws and
extensive hotspot clicker sets.
Saffire Pro26 here - good for the low cost.
At 12:14 PM 11/9/2015, you wrote:
I use Saffire Pro40. It has
knobs for each channel as well as two
headphone jacks. It has eight channels. I use it with my drum kit
all
of the time.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SaffPro40
It is affordable, too, and can be used with Protools and any other
software.
Kindly,
Vaughn

On 11/9/15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just because I expressed my own personal reservations about the Icon
stuff
> doesn't mean it's a black sheep. It's a viable option for anybody
who does
> their research and feels it's a good solution. I can't personally
endorse it
> but that doesn't mean anything other than that. You should feel free
to
> share any info or experience you have on the list. Along with that,
you
> might be met with skepticism and that's to be expected. Facts will
come out
> eventually, right? So, don't feel like you have to respond to
these
> questions off list. It's up to you.
>
> Best,
>
> Slau
>
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black
sheep
>>
>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton
<jedbar...@gmail.com> het
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>
>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>
>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton
<jedbar...@gmail.com> het
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a
control surface.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could
not figure out how to
>>>>>> post a new thread. So I am asking what surface
controller would you
>>>>>> recommend for a beginner? I am getting ready to
buy ProTools 12. I am
>>>>>> currently using a Mac book Pro with a I five
processor and 8 GB of RAM
>>>>>> and one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for
something that will be
>>>>>> easy to use, also, will be able to input drums
microphones for my drum
>>>>>> set  any recommendations would be greatly
appreciated.
>>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from
$700-$1500.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster
<monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with
some dot markers and a
>>>>>>> little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns
me more in program like
>>>>>>> reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility
with assigning surfaces
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen
<sc...@gillen.co.nz>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far
as I know there are no
>>>>>>>> tactile markings so I think it would
be  real easy to get lost with
>>>>>>>> a keyboard of that size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM,
TheOreoMonster
>>>>>>>>> <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix
with the Editor Keys pro Tools
>>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools
keyboard is a standard computer
>>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys
printed on each key along with
>>>>>>>>> the the normal letters of the
keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet
>>>>>>>>> for a sighted person so they won’t
have to remember  all the
>>>>>>>>> keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller
that only has buttons and each
>&

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[TheOreoMonster]

Once again a lot of you guys are confusing Avid’s use of the words “Not 
Officially Supported” with won’t work. There is a big difference between not 
officially supported and won’t work.  Not supported just means they don’t 
thoroughly test it with new PT version themselves anymore and you will get 
limited if any support if you called their support line. Which if you don’t 
have a support plan is a moot point anyways.  When they list it as doesn’t work 
is when it won’t work with newer versions of pro tools. 

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Nick Gawronski <n...@nickgawronski.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I also have a Digi 003 with the moving fading controls that I would be
> willing to sell if anyone is interested as I will want something that is
> supported threw at least the next three versions or so of Pro Tools and if
> possible something that also will allow me to connect it to my windows
> system and record using programs that blind people use on the windows 
> side of things.  I was hearing a lot of good things about the Artist
> control surfaces and the new USB interfaces but don't want to lose any
> inputs or outputs.  What is a good USB audio interface that has the same
> amount of inputs and outputs as the Digi 003?  I don't mind getting one
> that just works on the mac but would like something that works on both
> systems so I can take it around and use it different places with different
> systems.  Nick Gawronski
> On Tue, November 10, 2015 6:20 am, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> The 003 is still supported. There will come a time when it's not
>> officially supported but will still work but will not be tested with
>> subsequent versions of Pro Tools. At this time, I certainly wouldn't buy
>> a new one but you can still pick up a used one for considerably less than
>> what it sold for new. Slau
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> But is it really a good idea to buy a 003 now seeing that it probably
>>> will be obsolete come v13? According to how the releases have been
>>> during the years i have had Pro tools, v13 may not be far off. /Krister
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 10 nov. 2015 kl. 01:33 skrev Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The 003 does work with PT 12.
>>>> Slau
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Does the Digidesign 003 not work with PT12? It has 8 ins, 4
>>>>> preamps, jog wheel, two headphone jacks with separate volume knobs
>>>>> and 8 motorized faders as well as fader flip mode. Like most all in
>>>>> one surfaces I think that the converters and the pres are a little
>>>>> week, but you can expand the converters via light pipe.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:10 AM
>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> email me off list and tell me more
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton
>>>>>>>>> <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control
>>>>>>>>> surface. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I kn

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Krister Ekstrom]

But is it really a good idea to buy a 003 now seeing that it probably will be 
obsolete come v13?
According to how the releases have been during the years i have had Pro tools, 
v13 may not be far off.
/Krister

> 10 nov. 2015 kl. 01:33 skrev Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:
> 
> The 003 does work with PT 12.
> Slau
> 
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does the Digidesign 003 not work with PT12? It has 8 ins, 4 preamps, jog 
>> wheel, two headphone jacks with separate volume knobs  and 8 motorized 
>> faders as well as fader flip mode. Like most all in one surfaces I think 
>> that the converters and the pres are a little week, but you can expand the 
>> converters via light pipe. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jed Barton
>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:10 AM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>> 
>> email me off list and tell me more
>> 
>> On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>> 
>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to 
>>>>>>> post a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you 
>>>>>>> recommend for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am 
>>>>>>> currently using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM 
>>>>>>> and one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be 
>>>>>>> easy to use, also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum 
>>>>>>> set  any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a 
>>>>>>>> little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like 
>>>>>>>> reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces 
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>>>>>>>>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a 
>>>>>>>>> keyboard of that size.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with 
>>>>>>>>>> the the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet 
>>>>>>>>>> for a sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the 
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Slau Halatyn]

The 003 is still supported. There will come a time when it's not officially 
supported but will still work but will not be tested with subsequent versions 
of Pro Tools. At this time, I certainly wouldn't buy a new one but you can 
still pick up a used one for considerably less than what it sold for new. 
Slau

On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote:

> But is it really a good idea to buy a 003 now seeing that it probably will be 
> obsolete come v13?
> According to how the releases have been during the years i have had Pro 
> tools, v13 may not be far off.
> /Krister
> 
>> 10 nov. 2015 kl. 01:33 skrev Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> The 003 does work with PT 12.
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does the Digidesign 003 not work with PT12? It has 8 ins, 4 preamps, jog 
>>> wheel, two headphone jacks with separate volume knobs  and 8 motorized 
>>> faders as well as fader flip mode. Like most all in one surfaces I think 
>>> that the converters and the pres are a little week, but you can expand the 
>>> converters via light pipe. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Jed Barton
>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:10 AM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>> 
>>> email me off list and tell me more
>>> 
>>> On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to 
>>>>>>>> post a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you 
>>>>>>>> recommend for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am 
>>>>>>>> currently using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM 
>>>>>>>> and one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be 
>>>>>>>> easy to use, also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum 
>>>>>>>> set  any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a 
>>>>>>>>> little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like 
>>>>>>>>> reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces 
>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no 
>>>>>>>>>> tactile markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with 
>>>>>>>>>> a keyboard of that size.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster 
>>>>>>>>>>> <monkeypushe...@

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Vaughn Brown]

This is good clarification.
Vaughn
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 4:11 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Once again a lot of you guys are confusing Avid’s use of the words “Not 
> Officially Supported” with won’t work. There is a big difference between not 
> officially supported and won’t work.  Not supported just means they don’t 
> thoroughly test it with new PT version themselves anymore and you will get 
> limited if any support if you called their support line. Which if you don’t 
> have a support plan is a moot point anyways.  When they list it as doesn’t 
> work is when it won’t work with newer versions of pro tools. 
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Nick Gawronski <n...@nickgawronski.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I also have a Digi 003 with the moving fading controls that I would be
>> willing to sell if anyone is interested as I will want something that is
>> supported threw at least the next three versions or so of Pro Tools and if
>> possible something that also will allow me to connect it to my windows
>> system and record using programs that blind people use on the windows 
>> side of things.  I was hearing a lot of good things about the Artist
>> control surfaces and the new USB interfaces but don't want to lose any
>> inputs or outputs.  What is a good USB audio interface that has the same
>> amount of inputs and outputs as the Digi 003?  I don't mind getting one
>> that just works on the mac but would like something that works on both
>> systems so I can take it around and use it different places with different
>> systems.  Nick Gawronski
>> On Tue, November 10, 2015 6:20 am, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>> The 003 is still supported. There will come a time when it's not
>>> officially supported but will still work but will not be tested with
>>> subsequent versions of Pro Tools. At this time, I certainly wouldn't buy
>>> a new one but you can still pick up a used one for considerably less than
>>> what it sold for new. Slau
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> But is it really a good idea to buy a 003 now seeing that it probably
>>>> will be obsolete come v13? According to how the releases have been
>>>> during the years i have had Pro tools, v13 may not be far off. /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 10 nov. 2015 kl. 01:33 skrev Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The 003 does work with PT 12.
>>>>> Slau
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does the Digidesign 003 not work with PT12? It has 8 ins, 4
>>>>>> preamps, jog wheel, two headphone jacks with separate volume knobs
>>>>>> and 8 motorized faders as well as fader flip mode. Like most all in
>>>>>> one surfaces I think that the converters and the pres are a little
>>>>>> week, but you can expand the converters via light pipe.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:10 AM
>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> email me off list and tell me more
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton
>>>>>>>>>> <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,
This is obviously a huge issue for all of us, having a control surface.
Has anyone thought of putting up a list of links and model numbers for 
good accessible control surfaces?

I know for me this would be very helpful.
You can spend anywhere from a thousand to 5 grand or more on a control 
surface.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Jed

On 11/10/2015 7:37 PM, Vaughn Brown wrote:

This is good clarification.
Vaughn

On Nov 10, 2015, at 4:11 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Once again a lot of you guys are confusing Avid’s use of the words “Not 
Officially Supported” with won’t work. There is a big difference between not 
officially supported and won’t work.  Not supported just means they don’t 
thoroughly test it with new PT version themselves anymore and you will get 
limited if any support if you called their support line. Which if you don’t 
have a support plan is a moot point anyways.  When they list it as doesn’t work 
is when it won’t work with newer versions of pro tools.


On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Nick Gawronski <n...@nickgawronski.com> wrote:

Hi, I also have a Digi 003 with the moving fading controls that I would be
willing to sell if anyone is interested as I will want something that is
supported threw at least the next three versions or so of Pro Tools and if
possible something that also will allow me to connect it to my windows
system and record using programs that blind people use on the windows
side of things.  I was hearing a lot of good things about the Artist
control surfaces and the new USB interfaces but don't want to lose any
inputs or outputs.  What is a good USB audio interface that has the same
amount of inputs and outputs as the Digi 003?  I don't mind getting one
that just works on the mac but would like something that works on both
systems so I can take it around and use it different places with different
systems.  Nick Gawronski
On Tue, November 10, 2015 6:20 am, Slau Halatyn wrote:

The 003 is still supported. There will come a time when it's not
officially supported but will still work but will not be tested with
subsequent versions of Pro Tools. At this time, I certainly wouldn't buy
a new one but you can still pick up a used one for considerably less than
what it sold for new. Slau


On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
wrote:



But is it really a good idea to buy a 003 now seeing that it probably
will be obsolete come v13? According to how the releases have been
during the years i have had Pro tools, v13 may not be far off. /Krister



10 nov. 2015 kl. 01:33 skrev Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>:


The 003 does work with PT 12.
Slau


On Nov 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
wrote:



Does the Digidesign 003 not work with PT12? It has 8 ins, 4
preamps, jog wheel, two headphone jacks with separate volume knobs
and 8 motorized faders as well as fader flip mode. Like most all in
one surfaces I think that the converters and the pres are a little
week, but you can expand the converters via light pipe.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:10 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations


email me off list and tell me more

On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:


Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep



Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com>
het volgende geschreven:

alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool


On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
Icon QCon Pro!



Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton
<jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:


Hey guys,
I'm looking in the same general price range for a control
surface. Any ideas?



On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure
out how to post a new thread. So I am asking what surface
controller would you recommend for a beginner? I am
getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a
Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and
one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that
will be easy to use, also, will be able to input drums
microphones for my drum set  any recommendations would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks note: looking at a price range
from $700-$1500.

Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster
<monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:


nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot
markers and a little adhesive. The hot key matrix
interns me more in program like reaper that gives you a
lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen
<sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:


There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know
there are no tactile markings so I think it would be
real easy to get lost with a keyboard of t

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Jed Barton]

email me off list and tell me more

On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:

Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep


Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
geschreven:

alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool


On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
Icon QCon Pro!


Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
geschreven:

Hey guys,
I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
Any ideas?


On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post a new 
thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend for a 
beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a Mac 
book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte hard drive. I 
am looking for something that will be easy to use, also, will be able to input 
drums microphones for my drum set  any recommendations would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:

nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that gives 
you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:

There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile markings 
so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard of that size.

Scott

Sent from my iPhone


On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:

You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools keyboard. 
The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer keyboard with the Pro 
Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the normal letters of the 
keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a sighted person so they won’t have 
to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.

The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro tools 
functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single button 
press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or something buttons 
on it.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:

I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just have a 
visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with certain 
keyboard labels? I could be wrong.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations

Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
Hotkey Matrix before?

As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.


On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert <vano...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Slau,
for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
from Avid.
I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
plugin parameters.
I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controle


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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Ronald van Rhijn]

„A black sheep”? Do you actually own and use this with Pro Tools?
It’s kind of cheap and not best suited for Pro Tools.


Op 9 nov. 2015, om 08:59 heeft vano...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:

> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
> 
>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>> 
>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>> 
>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post 
>>>>> a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend 
>>>>> for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently 
>>>>> using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one 
>>>>> terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be easy to use, 
>>>>> also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum set  any 
>>>>> recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
>>>>>> adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that 
>>>>>> gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>>>>>>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard 
>>>>>>> of that size.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the 
>>>>>>>> the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a 
>>>>>>>> sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard 
>>>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of 
>>>>>>>> pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a 
>>>>>>>> single button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 
>>>>>>>> or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could 
>>>>>>>>> just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short 
>>>>>>>>> cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
>>>>>>>>> Hotkey

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[TheOreoMonster]

gt;>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no
>>>>>>>>>>> tactile markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> a keyboard of that size.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster
>>>>>>>>>>>> <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat
>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and
>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>> of pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a single button press. i think the hot key matrix has
>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>> like 145 or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tools short cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotkey Matrix before?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert <vano...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Slau,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Avid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, also for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin parameters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controle
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[TheOreoMonster]

t;>>>>>>>>> reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces
>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no
>>>>>>>>>>> tactile markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> a keyboard of that size.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster
>>>>>>>>>>>> <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat
>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and
>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>> of pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a single button press. i think the hot key matrix has
>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>> like 145 or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tools short cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotkey Matrix before?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will be possible to memorise the layout of all k

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Vaughn Brown]

No, it does not. The description on the sent link covers what it does have.
I hope this helps with your rsearch.
Vaughn

On 11/9/15, Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> does this control surface have an audio scrub wheel?
>
> On 11/9/2015 12:14 PM, Vaughn Brown wrote:
>> I use Saffire Pro40. It has knobs for each channel as well as two
>> headphone jacks. It has eight channels. I use it with my drum kit all
>> of the time.
>>
>> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SaffPro40
>>
>> It is affordable, too, and can be used with Protools and any other
>> software.
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Vaughn
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just because I expressed my own personal reservations about the Icon
>>> stuff
>>> doesn't mean it's a black sheep. It's a viable option for anybody who
>>> does
>>> their research and feels it's a good solution. I can't personally endorse
>>> it
>>> but that doesn't mean anything other than that. You should feel free to
>>> share any info or experience you have on the list. Along with that, you
>>> might be met with skepticism and that's to be expected. Facts will come
>>> out
>>> eventually, right? So, don't feel like you have to respond to these
>>> questions off list. It's up to you.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Slau
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>>>
>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>
>>>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het
>>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to
>>>>>>>> post a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you
>>>>>>>> recommend for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> currently using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of
>>>>>>>> RAM
>>>>>>>> and one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> easy to use, also, will be able to input drums microphones for my
>>>>>>>> drum
>>>>>>>> set  any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster
>>>>>>>>> <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a
>>>>>>>>> little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces
>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no
>>>>>>>>>> tactile markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> a keyboard of that size.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>&

RE: Control Surface Recommendations

[Poppa Bear]

Does the Digidesign 003 not work with PT12? It has 8 ins, 4 preamps, jog wheel, 
two headphone jacks with separate volume knobs  and 8 motorized faders as well 
as fader flip mode. Like most all in one surfaces I think that the converters 
and the pres are a little week, but you can expand the converters via light 
pipe. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:10 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations

email me off list and tell me more

On 11/9/2015 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>
>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>>
>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>
>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>
>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post 
>>>>> a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend 
>>>>> for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently 
>>>>> using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one 
>>>>> terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be easy to use, 
>>>>> also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum set  any 
>>>>> recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
>>>>>> adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that 
>>>>>> gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>>>>>>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard 
>>>>>>> of that size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the 
>>>>>>>> the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a 
>>>>>>>> sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard 
>>>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of 
>>>>>>>> pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a 
>>>>>>>> single button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 
>>>>>>>> or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could 
>>>>>>>>> just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short 
>>>>>>>>> cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Vaughn Brown]

I use Saffire Pro40. It has knobs for each channel as well as two
headphone jacks. It has eight channels. I use it with my drum kit all
of the time.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SaffPro40

It is affordable, too, and can be used with Protools and any other software.

Kindly,
Vaughn


On 11/9/15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just because I expressed my own personal reservations about the Icon stuff
> doesn't mean it's a black sheep. It's a viable option for anybody who does
> their research and feels it's a good solution. I can't personally endorse it
> but that doesn't mean anything other than that. You should feel free to
> share any info or experience you have on the list. Along with that, you
> might be met with skepticism and that's to be expected. Facts will come out
> eventually, right? So, don't feel like you have to respond to these
> questions off list. It's up to you.
>
> Best,
>
> Slau
>
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>>
>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>>
>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>>
>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to
>>>>>> post a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you
>>>>>> recommend for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am
>>>>>> currently using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM
>>>>>> and one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be
>>>>>> easy to use, also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum
>>>>>> set  any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a
>>>>>>> little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like
>>>>>>> reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no
>>>>>>>> tactile markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with
>>>>>>>> a keyboard of that size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster
>>>>>>>>> <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools
>>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer
>>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with
>>>>>>>>> the the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet
>>>>>>>>> for a sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the
>>>>>>>>> keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each
>>>>>>>>> of pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done
>>>>>>>>> in a single button press. i think the hot key matrix has something
>>>>>>>>> like 145 or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>&

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Jed Barton]

does this control surface have an audio scrub wheel?

On 11/9/2015 12:14 PM, Vaughn Brown wrote:

I use Saffire Pro40. It has knobs for each channel as well as two
headphone jacks. It has eight channels. I use it with my drum kit all
of the time.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SaffPro40

It is affordable, too, and can be used with Protools and any other software.

Kindly,
Vaughn


On 11/9/15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just because I expressed my own personal reservations about the Icon stuff
doesn't mean it's a black sheep. It's a viable option for anybody who does
their research and feels it's a good solution. I can't personally endorse it
but that doesn't mean anything other than that. You should feel free to
share any info or experience you have on the list. Along with that, you
might be met with skepticism and that's to be expected. Facts will come out
eventually, right? So, don't feel like you have to respond to these
questions off list. It's up to you.

Best,

Slau

On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:59 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:


Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep


Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het
volgende geschreven:

alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool


On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
Icon QCon Pro!


Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het
volgende geschreven:

Hey guys,
I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
Any ideas?


On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to
post a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you
recommend for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am
currently using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM
and one terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be
easy to use, also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum
set  any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a
little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like
reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces
though.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz>
wrote:

There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no
tactile markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with
a keyboard of that size.

Scott

Sent from my iPhone


On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster
<monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:

You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools
keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer
keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with
the the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet
for a sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the
keyboard shortcuts.

The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each
of pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done
in a single button press. i think the hot key matrix has something
like 145 or something buttons on it.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they
could just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro
Tools short cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be
wrong.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations

Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used
a
Hotkey Matrix before?

As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have
dedicated
functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by
using
modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and
whether
it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.


On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert <vano...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Slau,
for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as
the once
from Avid.
I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care
of, also for
plugin parameters.
I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid
controle


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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[vanooit]

I tryed it and it worked really wel
Are you talking from personal  experiance?

> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 15:42 heeft Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> „A black sheep”? Do you actually own and use this with Pro Tools?
> It’s kind of cheap and not best suited for Pro Tools.
> 
> 
>> Op 9 nov. 2015, om 08:59 heeft vano...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep
>> 
>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
>>> geschreven:
>>> 
>>> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
>>> 
>>>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Icon QCon Pro!
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post 
>>>>>> a new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend 
>>>>>> for a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently 
>>>>>> using a Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one 
>>>>>> terabyte hard drive. I am looking for something that will be easy to 
>>>>>> use, also, will be able to input drums microphones for my drum set  any 
>>>>>> recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a 
>>>>>>> little adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like 
>>>>>>> reaper that gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces 
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>>>>>>>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard 
>>>>>>>> of that size.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with 
>>>>>>>>> the the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet 
>>>>>>>>> for a sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard 
>>>>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of 
>>>>>>>>> pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a 
>>>>>>>>> single button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 
>>>>>>>>> 145 or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could 
>>>>>>>>>> just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short 
>>>>>>>>>> cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[vanooit]

Shell we do this of list? Here the Qcon seems to be a black sheep

> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 07:38 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool
> 
>> On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Icon QCon Pro!
>> 
>>> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
>>> geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>>>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post a 
>>>> new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend for 
>>>> a beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a 
>>>> Mac book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte hard 
>>>> drive. I am looking for something that will be easy to use, also, will be 
>>>> able to input drums microphones for my drum set  any recommendations would 
>>>> be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
>>>>> adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that 
>>>>> gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>>>>>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard 
>>>>>> of that size.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the 
>>>>>>> the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a 
>>>>>>> sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard 
>>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of 
>>>>>>> pro tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a 
>>>>>>> single button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 
>>>>>>> or something buttons on it.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could 
>>>>>>>> just have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short 
>>>>>>>> cut keys with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
>>>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
>>>>>>>> Hotkey Matrix before?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
>>>>>>>> functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
>>>>>>>> modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
>>>>>>>> it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>

Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Darwin May]

Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post a new 
thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend for a 
beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a Mac 
book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte hard drive. I 
am looking for something that will be easy to use, also, will be able to input 
drums microphones for my drum set  any recommendations would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
> adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that 
> gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.
>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard of 
>> that size. 
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the 
>>> normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a sighted 
>>> person so they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.
>>> 
>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro 
>>> tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single 
>>> button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or 
>>> something buttons on it. 
>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just 
>>>> have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys 
>>>> with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>> 
>>>> Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
>>>> Hotkey Matrix before?
>>>> 
>>>> As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
>>>> functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
>>>> modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
>>>> it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert <vano...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Slau,
>>>>> for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
>>>>> from Avid.
>>>>> I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also 
>>>>> for
>>>>> plugin parameters.
>>>>> I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controle
>> 
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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[vanooit]

Icon QCon Pro!

> Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hey guys,
> I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
> Any ideas?
> 
>> On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
>> Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post a 
>> new thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend for a 
>> beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a Mac 
>> book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte hard 
>> drive. I am looking for something that will be easy to use, also, will be 
>> able to input drums microphones for my drum set  any recommendations would 
>> be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
>>> adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that 
>>> gives you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.
>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
>>>> markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard of 
>>>> that size.
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
>>>>> keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer 
>>>>> keyboard with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the 
>>>>> the normal letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a 
>>>>> sighted person so they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro 
>>>>> tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single 
>>>>> button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or 
>>>>> something buttons on it.
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just 
>>>>>> have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys 
>>>>>> with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
>>>>>> Hotkey Matrix before?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
>>>>>> functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
>>>>>> modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
>>>>>> it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert <vano...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Slau,
>>>>>>> for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the 
>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>> from Avid.
>>>>>>> I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, 
>>>>>>> also for
>>>>>>> plugin parameters.
>>>>>>> I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controle
>>>> 
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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,
I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
Any ideas?

On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:

Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post a new 
thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend for a 
beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a Mac 
book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte hard drive. I 
am looking for something that will be easy to use, also, will be able to input 
drums microphones for my drum set  any recommendations would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:

nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that gives 
you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:

There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile markings 
so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard of that size.

Scott

Sent from my iPhone


On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:

You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools keyboard. 
The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer keyboard with the Pro 
Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the normal letters of the 
keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a sighted person so they won’t have 
to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.

The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro tools 
functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single button 
press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or something buttons 
on it.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:

I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just have a 
visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with certain 
keyboard labels? I could be wrong.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations

Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
Hotkey Matrix before?

As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.


On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert <vano...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Slau,
for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
from Avid.
I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
plugin parameters.
I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controle


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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Jed Barton]

alright, so tell me about this 1, sounds cool

On 11/9/2015 1:18 AM, vano...@gmail.com wrote:

Icon QCon Pro!


Op 9 nov. 2015 om 05:40 heeft Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> het volgende 
geschreven:

Hey guys,
I'm looking in the same general price range for a control surface.
Any ideas?


On 11/8/2015 3:32 PM, Darwin May wrote:
Hello, I know this is a old thread. But could not figure out how to post a new 
thread. So I am asking what surface controller would you recommend for a 
beginner? I am getting ready to buy ProTools 12. I am currently using a Mac 
book Pro with a I five processor and 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte hard drive. I 
am looking for something that will be easy to use, also, will be able to input 
drums microphones for my drum set  any recommendations would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks note: looking at a price range from $700-$1500.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:05 PM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:

nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that gives 
you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen <sc...@gillen.co.nz> wrote:

There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile markings 
so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard of that size.

Scott

Sent from my iPhone


On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:

You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools keyboard. 
The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer keyboard with the Pro 
Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the normal letters of the 
keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a sighted person so they won’t have 
to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.

The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro tools 
functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single button 
press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or something buttons 
on it.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:

I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just have a 
visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with certain 
keyboard labels? I could be wrong.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations

Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
Hotkey Matrix before?

As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.


On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert <vano...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Slau,
for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
from Avid.
I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
plugin parameters.
I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controle


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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Scott Gillen]

There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile markings 
so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard of that size. 

Scott

Sent from my iPhone

On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:

 You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools keyboard. 
 The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer keyboard with the 
 Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the normal letters of 
 the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a sighted person so they won’t 
 have to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.
 
 The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro 
 tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single 
 button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or something 
 buttons on it. 
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just 
 have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with 
 certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Nickus de Vos
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
 
 Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
 Hotkey Matrix before?
 
 As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
 functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
 modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
 it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
 
 On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
 from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
 plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controle

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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[TheOreoMonster]

nothing that couldn’t easily be fixed with some dot markers and a little 
adhesive. The hot key matrix interns me more in program like reaper that gives 
you a lot of flexibility with assigning surfaces though.
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Scott Gillen sc...@gillen.co.nz wrote:
 
 There are 8 rows of 18 keys and as far as I know there are no tactile 
 markings so I think it would be  real easy to get lost with a keyboard of 
 that size. 
 
 Scott
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2/04/2015, at 11:23 AM, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools 
 keyboard. The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer keyboard 
 with the Pro Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the normal 
 letters of the keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a sighted person so 
 they won’t have to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.
 
 The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro 
 tools functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single 
 button press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or something 
 buttons on it. 
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just 
 have a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys 
 with certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
 
 Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
 Hotkey Matrix before?
 
 As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
 functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
 modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
 it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
 
 On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
 from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also 
 for
 plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controle
 
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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Nickus de Vos]

Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
Hotkey Matrix before?

As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.

On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
 from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
 plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controlers,
 I let you know. The money aspect might be interesting. And why spend more
 then is needed? the idea of having an Avid device does not arouse me one
 bit. i wanna have a good and working controler.
 if thats a QCon pro, its fine by me. I let you know what my findings are.
 Maybe others can have some advantige of this to.And if it might be so, that
 this controlservice has any problems, I for sure will tell here.
 it is a fairly new product and has al the protocols, needed to work fine
 with Protools.
 Mac



 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 22:17 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:

 As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with the Avid
 surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although it works, is
 not the greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. retailers carry is a
 good way to gauge the market.

 Slau

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RE: Control Surface Recommendations

[Poppa Bear]

I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just have a 
visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with certain 
keyboard labels? I could be wrong.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations

Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
Hotkey Matrix before?

As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.

On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
 from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
 plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controlers,
 I let you know. The money aspect might be interesting. And why spend more
 then is needed? the idea of having an Avid device does not arouse me one
 bit. i wanna have a good and working controler.
 if thats a QCon pro, its fine by me. I let you know what my findings are.
 Maybe others can have some advantige of this to.And if it might be so, that
 this controlservice has any problems, I for sure will tell here.
 it is a fairly new product and has al the protocols, needed to work fine
 with Protools.
 Mac



 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 22:17 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:

 As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with the Avid
 surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although it works, is
 not the greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. retailers carry is a
 good way to gauge the market.

 Slau

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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Me]

Interesting comments Mac. I don't have any experience using a control surface 
with Protools, and am only commmenting about what I've read. I'll try my BCF 
controller soon and see if I have any luck controling plugins with it. I look 
forward to hearing how you get on with automting plugins with the surface when 
you get it. 

Sent from my iPod

 On 1 Apr 2015, at 19:27, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just have 
 a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with 
 certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Nickus de Vos
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
 
 Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
 Hotkey Matrix before?
 
 As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
 functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
 modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
 it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
 
 On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
 from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
 plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controlers,
 I let you know. The money aspect might be interesting. And why spend more
 then is needed? the idea of having an Avid device does not arouse me one
 bit. i wanna have a good and working controler.
 if thats a QCon pro, its fine by me. I let you know what my findings are.
 Maybe others can have some advantige of this to.And if it might be so, that
 this controlservice has any problems, I for sure will tell here.
 it is a fairly new product and has al the protocols, needed to work fine
 with Protools.
 Mac
 
 
 
 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 22:17 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:
 
 As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with the Avid
 surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although it works, is
 not the greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. retailers carry is a
 good way to gauge the market.
 
 Slau
 
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RE: Control Surface Recommendations

[Poppa Bear]

The BCF should be able to control some plug-in parameters. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Me
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 11:26 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations

Interesting comments Mac. I don't have any experience using a control surface 
with Protools, and am only commmenting about what I've read. I'll try my BCF 
controller soon and see if I have any luck controling plugins with it. I look 
forward to hearing how you get on with automting plugins with the surface when 
you get it. 

Sent from my iPod

 On 1 Apr 2015, at 19:27, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just have 
 a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with 
 certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
 
 Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a 
 Hotkey Matrix before?
 
 As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated 
 functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using 
 modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether 
 it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
 
 On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the 
 once from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, 
 also for plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid 
 controlers, I let you know. The money aspect might be interesting. 
 And why spend more then is needed? the idea of having an Avid device 
 does not arouse me one bit. i wanna have a good and working controler.
 if thats a QCon pro, its fine by me. I let you know what my findings are.
 Maybe others can have some advantige of this to.And if it might be 
 so, that this controlservice has any problems, I for sure will tell here.
 it is a fairly new product and has al the protocols, needed to work 
 fine with Protools.
 Mac
 
 
 
 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 22:17 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com 
 het volgende geschreven:
 
 As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with 
 the Avid surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although 
 it works, is not the greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. 
 retailers carry is a good way to gauge the market.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[TheOreoMonster]

You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools keyboard. 
The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer keyboard with the Pro 
Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the normal letters of the 
keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a sighted person so they won’t have 
to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.

The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro tools 
functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single button 
press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or something buttons 
on it. 
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just have 
 a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with 
 certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Nickus de Vos
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
 
 Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
 Hotkey Matrix before?
 
 As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
 functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
 modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
 it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
 
 On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
 from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
 plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controlers,
 I let you know. The money aspect might be interesting. And why spend more
 then is needed? the idea of having an Avid device does not arouse me one
 bit. i wanna have a good and working controler.
 if thats a QCon pro, its fine by me. I let you know what my findings are.
 Maybe others can have some advantige of this to.And if it might be so, that
 this controlservice has any problems, I for sure will tell here.
 it is a fairly new product and has al the protocols, needed to work fine
 with Protools.
 Mac
 
 
 
 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 22:17 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:
 
 As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with the Avid
 surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although it works, is
 not the greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. retailers carry is a
 good way to gauge the market.
 
 Slau
 
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RE: Control Surface Recommendations

[Poppa Bear]

I'm sorry, thanks for the clarification.

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From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:24 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations

You are confusing the Hot Key Metrix with the Editor Keys pro Tools keyboard. 
The Editors Key Pro Tools keyboard is a standard computer keyboard with the Pro 
Tools hotKeys printed on each key along with the the normal letters of the 
keyboard. Its basically a cheat sheet for a sighted person so they won’t have 
to remember  all the keyboard shortcuts.

The hot key matrix is a controller that only has buttons and each of pro tools 
functions are assigned to a button so they can be done in a single button 
press. i think the hot key matrix has something like 145 or something buttons 
on it. 
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that these were more for sighted folks so that they could just have 
 a visual aid to be able to use the native Pro Tools short cut keys with 
 certain keyboard labels? I could be wrong.
 
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 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Nickus de Vos
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:02 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Control Surface Recommendations
 
 Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
 Hotkey Matrix before?
 
 As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
 functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
 modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
 it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.
 
 On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
 from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
 plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controlers,
 I let you know. The money aspect might be interesting. And why spend more
 then is needed? the idea of having an Avid device does not arouse me one
 bit. i wanna have a good and working controler.
 if thats a QCon pro, its fine by me. I let you know what my findings are.
 Maybe others can have some advantige of this to.And if it might be so, that
 this controlservice has any problems, I for sure will tell here.
 it is a fairly new product and has al the protocols, needed to work fine
 with Protools.
 Mac
 
 
 
 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 22:17 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:
 
 As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with the Avid
 surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although it works, is
 not the greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. retailers carry is a
 good way to gauge the market.
 
 Slau
 
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RE: Control Surface Recommendations

[Poppa Bear]

What is your price point and what are your needs aside from accessibility, 
I/O[s tactile faders/controls preamps/channels quality of converters? You could 
start off at about $600 with a Digidesign 003 or go all the way up to some 
$1 SSL units. 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:26 AM
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Subject: Control Surface Recommendations

 

Can anyone with experience using a control surface with Pro tools recommend an 
appropriate model?
Which ones provide the highest level of accessible interaction with Pro Tools 
11 and/or 12?
If I go with an S3 or even a C|24, will I still need an Avid audio interface 
such as the Omni or 8X8X8, or will the control surface itself serve as the 
audio interface?
Or would an Artist Mix and Transport coupled with an 8X8X8 give the same level 
of accessibility, but just with fewer I/O options?
Thanks for any clarification and pointers you can provide.
Alex

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Control Surface Recommendations

[Alex Coleman]

Can anyone with experience using a control surface with Pro tools recommend 
an appropriate model?
Which ones provide the highest level of accessible interaction with Pro 
Tools 11 and/or 12?
If I go with an S3 or even a C|24, will I still need an Avid audio 
interface such as the Omni or 8X8X8, or will the control surface itself 
serve as the audio interface?
Or would an Artist Mix and Transport coupled with an 8X8X8 give the same 
level of accessibility, but just with fewer I/O options?
Thanks for any clarification and pointers you can provide.
Alex

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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Mac Egbert]

Hi Alex,

I have struggeldwith this question myself.
And a
I think I have the answer.
I will go for the QCon Pro. its made by Icon.
And able to do Protools, QBase, Sonar, Logic and more.
the QCon Pro is a unit with nine motorised faders and all the knobs you could 
venture.
Inc jogwheel, and transpoorts, as play, stop, rewind, fast forward, loop and 
record.
there are knobs for automatisation, midi learning and many more features. I 
spoke to my dealer, who sells all kind of controles, not only this nice priced 
ones, but avid and macky to.
his saying is that this QCon Pro can do what all the others can.
So why bother spending more money?
you can also buy an audio interface wich fits in the pro unit, the Icon 1008.
10 inputs, 8 outputs, spdif, midi and more.
I will soon get the feel of this QCon pro and if any of you, would like my 
experiences with this controlservice, i could post a podcast link on this list.
Any pro's and con's I will mention freely, also because I did not buy anything 
yet...
here in Europ, the pro is going for 600 euro's and that also the price for 
there Ex expanders.
With 3 of them, you can have your hands on 32 motorised faders and a lot of 
really control!

Mac 

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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Alex,

Any of the Avid interfaces will give you the highest level of accessibility 
with Pro Tools. The S series is definitely the future but I personally have no 
experience with it. The C|24 is great but more expensive and will probably only 
be supported for another few years. The Artist series is more affordable and 
there are a couple of people using them. I don't think you can go wrong with 
any of them. Unlike the 003, the other surfaces are not audio interfaces so 
you'd have to use something as an interface for i/O.

Slau

On Mar 25, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Alex Coleman musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone with experience using a control surface with Pro tools recommend 
 an appropriate model?
 Which ones provide the highest level of accessible interaction with Pro Tools 
 11 and/or 12?
 If I go with an S3 or even a C|24, will I still need an Avid audio interface 
 such as the Omni or 8X8X8, or will the control surface itself serve as the 
 audio interface?
 Or would an Artist Mix and Transport coupled with an 8X8X8 give the same 
 level of accessibility, but just with fewer I/O options?
 Thanks for any clarification and pointers you can provide.
 Alex
 
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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Mac Egbert]

Hi David,
for plugins I use a Behringer bcr 2000. But, as far as I know the QCon pro can 
farily do its job with the plugins that proTools uses. there are lots of 
asignable keys to work with and things as send, pan EQ and others are one knob 
reachable. If the plugins were a real issue, the reviewers of other shops and 
sites, would have mentioned this, because, that would have ment a great 
showstopper.
But, if you have other info, please share it, so I can read this for myself.

mac



 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 21:08 heeft David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com het 
 volgende geschreven:
 
 That sounds great mac, but from my research, it seemed as if only the avid 
 and Macki controllers allowed you to automate plug-in parameters. ProTools 
 does not have a midi learn function, so the midi learn option on the control 
 you mention will be redundant. I'm pretty sure that's the case. I might have 
 to invest in one of the avid units at some point.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 25 Mar 2015, at 17:45, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 I have struggeldwith this question myself.
 And a
 I think I have the answer.
 I will go for the QCon Pro. its made by Icon.
 And able to do Protools, QBase, Sonar, Logic and more.
 the QCon Pro is a unit with nine motorised faders and all the knobs you 
 could venture.
 Inc jogwheel, and transpoorts, as play, stop, rewind, fast forward, loop and 
 record.
 there are knobs for automatisation, midi learning and many more features. I 
 spoke to my dealer, who sells all kind of controles, not only this nice 
 priced ones, but avid and macky to.
 his saying is that this QCon Pro can do what all the others can.
 So why bother spending more money?
 you can also buy an audio interface wich fits in the pro unit, the Icon 1008.
 10 inputs, 8 outputs, spdif, midi and more.
 I will soon get the feel of this QCon pro and if any of you, would like my 
 experiences with this controlservice, i could post a podcast link on this 
 list.
 Any pro's and con's I will mention freely, also because I did not buy 
 anything yet...
 here in Europ, the pro is going for 600 euro's and that also the price for 
 there Ex expanders.
 With 3 of them, you can have your hands on 32 motorised faders and a lot of 
 really control!
 
 Mac 
 
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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Slau Halatyn]

As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with the Avid 
surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although it works, is not the 
greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. retailers carry is a good way to 
gauge the market.

Slau

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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[David Eagle]

That sounds great mac, but from my research, it seemed as if only the avid and 
Macki controllers allowed you to automate plug-in parameters. ProTools does not 
have a midi learn function, so the midi learn option on the control you mention 
will be redundant. I'm pretty sure that's the case. I might have to invest in 
one of the avid units at some point.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 25 Mar 2015, at 17:45, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 I have struggeldwith this question myself.
 And a
 I think I have the answer.
 I will go for the QCon Pro. its made by Icon.
 And able to do Protools, QBase, Sonar, Logic and more.
 the QCon Pro is a unit with nine motorised faders and all the knobs you could 
 venture.
 Inc jogwheel, and transpoorts, as play, stop, rewind, fast forward, loop and 
 record.
 there are knobs for automatisation, midi learning and many more features. I 
 spoke to my dealer, who sells all kind of controles, not only this nice 
 priced ones, but avid and macky to.
 his saying is that this QCon Pro can do what all the others can.
 So why bother spending more money?
 you can also buy an audio interface wich fits in the pro unit, the Icon 1008.
 10 inputs, 8 outputs, spdif, midi and more.
 I will soon get the feel of this QCon pro and if any of you, would like my 
 experiences with this controlservice, i could post a podcast link on this 
 list.
 Any pro's and con's I will mention freely, also because I did not buy 
 anything yet...
 here in Europ, the pro is going for 600 euro's and that also the price for 
 there Ex expanders.
 With 3 of them, you can have your hands on 32 motorised faders and a lot of 
 really control!
 
 Mac 
 
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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Mac Egbert]

Hi Slau,
for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once from 
Avid.
I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for 
plugin parameters.
I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controlers, I 
let you know. The money aspect might be interesting. And why spend more then is 
needed? the idea of having an Avid device does not arouse me one bit. i wanna 
have a good and working controler.
if thats a QCon pro, its fine by me. I let you know what my findings are. Maybe 
others can have some advantige of this to.And if it might be so, that this 
controlservice has any problems, I for sure will tell here.
it is a fairly new product and has al the protocols, needed to work fine with 
Protools.
Mac



 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 22:17 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com het 
 volgende geschreven:
 
 As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with the Avid 
 surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although it works, is not 
 the greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. retailers carry is a good 
 way to gauge the market.
 
 Slau
 
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