CSRe: healers/cfids
Many people with chronic fatigue also have toxic mold exposure, or Toxins from red tide algae or fresh water algae, This wouldn't include chlorella would it? Chlorella can be contaminated - but most of the commercial growers are very careful to not allow this to happen... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: healers/cfids/fibromyalgia - cleanse the COLON
The Respected Doctor is absolutely RIGHT! Finally one who is honest, and faithful to his profession! The motto is: Want treatment (for chronic fatigue, for allergies and for more disbalances) -- Do you want treatment? First cleanse the colon then look at your eating habits and: drink enough PURE water. +25 !! Best general health advice ever... Too bad the devil is in the details, ie: 1. How *best* to cleanse the colon? 3 best products/methods: a) homozon (best source: Donna @ www.excellentthings.net) b) Dr Schulze (www.800herbdoc) c) Arise and Shine (chomper, herbal nutrition - www.ariseandshine.com) --- 2. Best diet? Learn everything you can about 'Metabolic Typing', determine your metabolic type, and eat accordingly. --- 3. Enough pure water? Lots of room for argument here. Best I've learned so far is, drink a large (12-16 ounces) glass of pure water immediately upon arising, then do the same 15-30 minutes prior to each meal. The rest should come from the fruits/veggies/soups you are eating. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Ozonated water vrs. homozon
You can also achieve similar benefits if you drink ozonated water regularly, and aside from the one-time expense for the generator, and very minimal ongoing expenses for powering it, it is free, while homozon costs about $30 per bottle... However, drinking ozonated water will NOT get the bowels moving like homozon will. Just to let ya know. True - it will *help*, but the magnesium alone in the homozon acts as a gentle 'laxative', along with the effects of the ozone... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
Sending email has nothing to do with IMAP, so this statement is at least a bit misleading OK, that was one. Some of the things it mentioned as not being able to be done is easy and standard features of many email programs. Vague comments are useless... specific examples, please? In what way is it wrong? And if you only have a 'slight understanding' of how IMAP works, how in the world can you then turn around and accuse this web page of being 'DEAD WRONG'? When you read something in black and white, a slight understanding is enough. In certain cases, maybe, but in general, I disagree... in fact, I would go so far as to say that the above is why you made so many wrong comments about gmail, and then IMAP... Seems you said it does SMTP. Eh? *I* did?? I just pointed out to you that this was the one comment on that page that was WRONG! I certainly never would have made such a comment... I did not read that anyplace. Maybe I missed it. The first line says it is a Webmail package. Methinks you are confused... the first line of the web page at the link *you* provided says nothing whatsoever about a 'webmail package'. We are talking about this link: https://neomailbox.com/imap_email.html Right? Several links on the side also. Specifics, please... WHAT links? The page emphasizes features of IMAP that are standard and automatic in most programs. First, IMAP is a PROTOCOL. It requires an IMAP capable SERVER first and foremost. Second, you need a client that supports talking to an IMAP server. From that point on, yes, many/most standard mail client features (like filters/rules, searches, etc) apply... but that is only because those features are protocol agnostic... This block, (4) Filing email is not the best use of your time Storing mail in folders with subfolders and nested sub-sub folders is not a productive way to spend your day. Sorry, but 'This block' is nowhere found on that page... Apparently you *are* talking about a different page/link from the one you actually posted... My mailer appears to support IMAP but have never used it. I don't think any of my mail servers have IMAP. Well - I could no more go back to POP for my primary email than I could dial-up for my internet access, but the fact is, you cannot 'miss' what you have never experienced. It appears it was made by and for adminstrators and very powerful users. No complaints in that respect of course. It is no more difficult to use than a POP account. Of course, as with anything, it helps to understand how it differs, and all of the *ways* that it can be used - the available 'features' it provides - but it is quite simple. And one thing I really like about Thunderbird is each account has its own folders (Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Templates, etc)... makes keeping things organized a breeze... OK, now you have about sold me on Thunderbird. grin In that case, if you decide to try it, just be aware... When you create a POP account, it offers to store all of the messages in what it calls the 'Global Inbox' - so if you want separate folders for each account, you'd have to say 'no' here... google on 'Thunderbird Global Inbox' for details... Emergency, or convenience... although I use strong passwords on all of my accounts, so I have to carry my password for my main account around with me as I still haven't memorized it (15 characters long, numbers, letters and special characters)... I won't ask how long it took you to learn all that. If you use Firefox, and care about online security, then PasswordMaker is your friend: www.passwordmaker.org Best thing since broadband! One password, as many secure passwords as you want, nothing stored anywhere (generates them on the fly each time)... I prefer carrying around my Portable Thunderbird - then as long as I have access to a computer with a live USB port, I don't need to pull out my main account/password and resort to webmail. OK, another plus. You have that on key chain device or similar? Yep... http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird_portable And in case you missed the significance - this whole site is killer for finding 'Portable' versions of programs that fit on a USB stick or other portable device: http://portableapps.com/apps I may have been a little wrong about gMail. A *little*? ;) Almost everything you initially accused it of was wrong... Not 100 %. I just did not like the wording on the information page I found. Likely there are better ones. Wayne - be honest - and please don't blame someone else for your own errors. I consider they are exaggerating a thing or two not granting that some of the things can be done other ways. Well, since I am fairly sure I have established that we are talking about two completely different links/pages, I'm afraid I cannot comment intelligently on this until I see the page you are talking about... ;) Thanks for not taking my comments as
CSRe: question about homozon
I have posted a question about homozon before and it was answered but I dont remember seeing an answer about this particular question. I may have missed the answer or have forgotten. does homozon address parasites as well ? It may help with some, but by itself, I'd say no... except that by cleansing and detoxing the bowels, kidneys, liver and gall bladder, it destroys most of the hiding places of these critters - and by keeping the bowels moving, it will help to get rid of them as you kill them by other methods. From what I've been reading DE (diatomaceous earth) may be one of the more effective ways to eliminate many parasites, but there are lots of other, more time-tested methods (cloves, garlic, black walnut hulls, etc - google is your friend)... Here's one hit on DE: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=923441 Is it safe for long term use or just occasional cleansing ? thanks in advance It is very safe for long term use - but as with anything, you should take breaks occasionally. You can also achieve similar benefits if you drink ozonated water regularly, and aside from the one-time expense for the generator, and very minimal ongoing expenses for powering it, it is free, while homozon costs about $30 per bottle... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
I hate to think how it would search my 200,000 messages at any decent rate. It searches *very* quickly... and it has a very effective tagging capability (that Thunderbird just got), that makes it even easier. Interesting it has a POP3 but no SMTP server. sigh yes, it does... http://tinyurl.com/26xt8d It certainly is not for POWER Mail users. Period. Actually, yes, it is... it just works *differently* - and, as I said, the interface doesn't appeal to some (like me - I would have said you, but it is obvious you are commenting on something you know nothing about and haven't tried) *because* it is so different. I would be happy to comment on every item on the OT list. I am on too many lists already... I would not use it for $ 100.00 per month. I wouldn't use *any* email service for $100/mo... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
The is an option, Leave mail on the server but that is not a nice thing to do. The Gmail option is actually on the server (you have to intentionally enable POP access), so doesn't suffer from the negatives you obviously have encountered (as have I) with the client version of 'Leave messages on server'. With GMail, you can tell it to delete them, leave them in your Inbox, or archive them. You can also apply server side filters to tag them, dump them into folders, etc. But as I said - I'm just waiting for IMAP access... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: question about homozon
Is an ozonated water maker expensive? I guess that depends on what you call 'expensive'... ;) Most decent ones will be in the $150 - $300 range... Here are a few links (but don't take this as an endorsement - I've never owned any of them, I have a medical grade generator): http://www.braintuner.com/ozone.htm http://www.toolsforwellness.com/34021.html http://www.elixa.com/water/ozonator.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: H-Pylori ans.to Wayne
Manuka honey is not a rip off as some one said. That would be me... but you offered not one piece of evidence to support the claim that it is somehow different from regular, truly raw honey. I stand by my claim... but understand - I am not saying it is 'bad' - just over priced (and tastes yucky, at least to me), and that there is nothing 'special' about it as compared to other truly raw honeys. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: H-Pylori ans.to Wayne
Manuka honey is not a rip off as some one said. That would be me... but you offered not one piece of evidence to support the claim that it is somehow different from regular, truly raw honey. I stand by my claim... but understand - I am not saying it is a rip-off in that it is 'bad' - just over priced (and tastes yucky to me), and that there is nothing 'special' about it as compared to other truly raw honeys. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
I'm not one of the parties involved in this conversation but may I ask, what is IMAP access. I'm trying to decide if I want to make gmail my main email program. Charles can explain it better. I have a slight understanding. However, BEWARE or the internet information about IMAP. https://neomailbox.com/imap_email.html This link is DEAD WRONG about IMAP and other mail capability. In what way is it wrong? And if you only have a 'slight understanding' of how IMAP works, how in the world can you then turn around and accuse this web page of being 'DEAD WRONG'? I read the entire page at the link you provided, and find not one thing that is wrong - except maybe for one comment: You will be able to access all your mail folders and send mail from any device. Sending email has nothing to do with IMAP, so this statement is at least a bit misleading - but of course, there is no reason you cannot also run an SMTP server on the same box (which is what I do). But the first part - and everything else I read on that page - is spot on. Plus, if you use a dialup ( no high speed ) Any web based mail will be slow as molasses, ... period. Even then, the Internet is vulnerable. Last week a construction company cut a large cable on the East Coast. Many parts of the internet was DOWN for 24 hours before it could be repaired. Valid concerns as far as they go - but maybe you haven't heard of 'offline support' for IMAP? Thunderbird has had this for a long time, as do most other mature IMAP clients. By enabling 'offline support' for all of your IMAP folders, you are essentially keeping local copies of everything (not just the headers), so that you can search, reply, save attachments, etc, all without being connected to the internet. Without doubt, the most reliable is to pick up your mail and transfer it all to your computer, no matter if you get 100 emails per day or 500. Most reliable in what regard? By using IMAP with offline support (which I do recommend), you have the best of both worlds... You can also set up something like fetchmail to 'grab' any email from any of your POP accounts, and dump it into specific folders on your IMAP server automatically, so you don't NEED to check it yourself - it is just 'there' - and GMail supports this, under the 'Accounts Get mail from other accounts' setting. Of course, this is all way beyond what the average person will ever want, need or do... I use 3 mail servers and 3 email addresses to beat the internet and mail server problems. I have about 25 email addresses, some I manage/host myself (my own domains), others are freebies like gmail, yahoo, etc (the yahoo and hotmail are only for IM service, so I can have an IM identity for each of the services so I can talk to anyone on any service)... You are not limited to one mail software ( nor one bogus web browser ) You can have 3, 4, of 5, all set up and working. I have 15 different accounts set up in TBird right now - all IMAP based (with fetchmail to handle the POP only accounts like my Netzero and gmail), all accessed through Thunderbird... I think my mail software would handle 15 email addresses and maybe that many mail servers. I normally limit it to 3 or 4. Thunderbird would handle dozens - heck, hundreds of email accounts, and as many servers (each account can be on the same server, or a different one - makes no difference). And one thing I really like about Thunderbird is each account has its own folders (Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Templates, etc)... makes keeping things organized a breeze... Use Web mail only as an emergency measure. Emergency, or convenience... although I use strong passwords on all of my accounts, so I have to carry my password for my main account around with me as I still haven't memorized it (15 characters long, numbers, letters and special characters)... Some say they use it because they can check mail from anywhere. Of course all my mail servers have Webmail any time I want to use it. I prefer carrying around my Portable Thunderbird - then as long as I have access to a computer with a live USB port, I don't need to pull out my main account/password and resort to webmail. I have always been able to check mail from any place I travel. Ditto... as long as there is an internet connection. I also have access to ALL of my mail, no matter how I'm accessing it, thanks to IMAP. I may have been a little wrong about gMail. A *little*? ;) Almost everything you initially accused it of was wrong... But, it was because the fool that wrote the web page did a lousy job explaining. Wayne - be honest - and please don't blame someone else for your own errors. You're the one who decided to rely on a 15 month old web page complaining about a bug that was fixed the same day it was reported (that is the 'page' you are referring to, no?). All it would have taken is a few minutes with google to learn the facts about gmails
CSRe: silver and hep c
Nina: If you would have had Gmail, you wouls STILL have all your emails even if the computer crashes ! I'll invite you. Try it out. It's great. . . Invites are no longer required: http://tinyurl.com/yt6hkt I just wish they provided IMAP access... If you do use their service, I highly recommend using their POP access (and leave the messages on the server, in case of a computer crash). That way you can use the email client of your choice (I prefer Thunderbird)... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: mercury fillings- to Miranda
I also read that it is dangerous *to* get rid of them because of the amount released in one go into the system. Dee It *can* be dangerous to get rid of them, if: 1. They are not removed properly, and 2. You do not adequately prepare - you should spend a few days prior loading up your system with mercury scavengers, like bentonite clay, chlorella, cilantro, and any others you know of, and a few weeks (at *least* to many months *continuing* the mercury scavengers once the fillings have been removed. It is not something to take lightly, and it is not something to have done by someone inexperienced in the procedure. Some people say if you have a lot, it is better to do them in stages - personally, I don't agree - but that is a decision each has to make for themselves. I do understand the argument - but as long as all of the proper precautions are taken, it shouldn't be a problem. Personally, I would also most likely insist on having some kind of breathing apparatus so I was breathing filtered air through my nose ONLY, the entire time (to prevent inhalation of mercury vapor while they were being removed). Of course, this last part would require a bit of self-control - ie, not breathing through your mouth during the entire process... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
What's GMail? It is an overrated Web Mail. They do provide POP access... Likely it is slow, it has to be using a dialup. ?? I loathe their webmail interface. In fact the only webmail interface I have ever seen that I *didn't* hate was roundcube, but it still has a ways to go before it is ready for prime-time... Nothing is as good as a POP3 and SMTP server. They do provide POP access... but you are wrong - IMAP is *way better* than POP - and SMTP has nothing to do with it - it is a protocol for TRANSMITTING messages, not for ACCESSING them once they have been delivered... Nothing beats running your own imap server (dovecot rocks!), and using Portable Thunderbird on a thumbdrive... It is is attached to Google, I would not use it for love or money. Read this. http://ph3rny.blogspot.com/2006/03/vulnerability-in-gmail.html This particular vulnerability is well over a year old, and apparently was fixed the same day this guy posted about it. All computer programs have vulnerabilities... nothing new here... There are ways to keep the computer from crashing. One can have 2, or 3 hard drives installed, or copy mail to an external hard drive. Or network copy to another computer. One can even do OFF site backups if if they desire. Most people aren't capable of doing things like this for themselves... but I agree, if you are, then there are lots of ways to keep things backed up... For those who aren't, gmail is a decent alternative... I doubt that they would like my 2 GIGS plus of email. They currently allow up to 2.6GB of storage - and you can use that storage for things other than email. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Heli-cobacter,how I did it
I had a severe case for years;was diagnosed; Drs. meds, useless,kept
returning,worse.One side effect,GERD.Heard about Manuka honey from
New Zealand with UMF 16+ .Sent for, and along with Pepto-bismal[the
real one], ginger capsules ,and also CS got it under control.Still
use the honey everyday
Manuka honey is just hype, and a rip off (too expensive).
All you need is truly raw honey... but you also need to be aware that it
is perfectly legal for honey producers to heat their honey to as high as
160 degrees and still label it 'Raw, Unheated' (politicians make me sick)...
There used to be only two commercially available brands that offered
truly Raw honey ('Really Raw', and 'YS Organics'), but I have started to
see more on the shelves at Harry's recently...
Locally produced is always best - but only if it is truly raw - and I
would never take anyones word for it for locally produced...
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CSRe: Cleanse
liver cleanse - a clogged liver causes the body immune system to react, causing allergy symptoms. It also will allow the toxins to be removed more easily. Start with the liver cleanse (gallbladder cleanse) and see if there are some improvements. I agree totally. The liver is the chemical factory of the body. If you have weight problems, and do not eat excessively, then most likely your liver is plugged. It may take a series of cleanses - and Dr Schulze has a slow-but-sure process using special herbal tinctures for those who don't want to do the traditional cleanses - but for some people, permanent weight loss will continue to elude them until they cleanse their liver. Homozon will cleanse *everything*, by the way... But if you are cleansing, without addressing the way these toxins are coming into the body (meaning, until you address your lifestyle), you will always be fighting a losing battle. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: The Persecution and Trial of Gaeston Naessens:
I just finished reading a book called The Persecution and Trial of Gaeston Naessens: The true Story of the Effort to supppress an Alternative Treatment for Cancer, AIDS, and other Immunologically-based diseases, by Christopher Byrd.. Excellent book! Its been on my library shelf for over a decade. If you liked this one, you will also find the following book of deep interest: B??champ or Pasteur? A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology by Ethel Douglas Hume ISBN-10: 0980297605 ISBN-13: 978-0980297607 Read about it here: http://tinyurl.com/2wstkn This book exposes Pasteur for the fraud that he was, and is a huge cause of the current state of Medical Tyranny our world finds itself in today. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: herxing to charles
I wanted to know if you had an opinion on this subject. Lots of folks get herxing reactions when using medications ie, herbs ,antibiotics etc. when treating lyme or candida. Would you advise using this same method of charcol and clay for help with detox? It sounds like it would be very helpful for symptoms but I wonder about the clay absorbing the medications to much thus making them ineffective. The only caveat would be to not take the slurry at the same time - or too soon before or after - the herbs/medications... The mechanism is very simple - the clay/charcoal simply ab/adsorb (google to learn about the difference between absorb and adsorb) toxins, chemicals, metals, etc. Yes, they will ab/adsorb some nutrients - and most of the drugs - if taken at the same time... So, take the slurry an hour before or after eating/taking meds, and you should be fine... As I said previously, when I am doing a cleans, I alternate my nutritional/green drink and the slurry hourly... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: poison ivy
They NOW have the power thanks to the new legislation. Most 'legislation' is territorial in nature - ie, it only applies to areas where Congress has what is called 'exclusive legislative jurisdiction'. This includes Washington DC, property within any State where jurisdiction has been officially ceded (most federal buildings do *not* qualify*), and Territories (I think Guam and American Samoa), and to an extent, places like the U.S. Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, etc. In other words - Congress does NOT have unlimited power to legislate inside the States. Any Act of Congress the enforcement of which would be unConstitutional is not a legitimate law. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver build up in the body
If it were me, I'd simply incorporate bentonite clay/activated charcoal slurries into my detox program and take even MORE of whatever was causing the herx... Do you have a source to recommend for bentoniteclay? The best source of information (and they do list sources for the clay) is: http://www.eytonsearth.org Here is a direct link to their 'sources' page: http://www.eytonsearth.org/purchase-buy-healing-clay.php And does anyone know if diatomaceous earth has any of the same effects, i.e. any capacity to absorb and bind toxins? I don't believe so, but it is supposed to be very effective at eliminating many/most parasites... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: poison ivy
And yes the FDA has the power to ban any substance that they choose on their own whim. Actually, technically speaking they do NOT have this kind of power - they have *assumed* the power to do this, and no one has ever properly challenged them. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver build up in the body
Well, if it were me, and I was getting Herxheimer reactions, I'd figure I was killing off something that needed killing. I would handle it by backing off on dosage, then increasing it until reaction started again (sorta like finding bowel tolerance with vitamin C). If it were me, I'd simply incorporate bentonite clay/activated charcoal slurries into my detox program and take even MORE of whatever was causing the herx... I expect to find that I can tolerate larger doses as the bad guys get killed off (in other words, stay on the edge of the envelope that you're pushing). Agree, but it is a much bigger envelope when you add the slurries - these will ab/adsorb 90% of the crap, and dramatically reduce or even eliminate the herx symptoms. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: some questions
I guess some people could gain weight on water and air. But most should not. Sunflower seeds are 48 % fat by weight. I have eaten them for many years. I never blamed them for weight gain. I did gain weight a time or two in my live. Driving and sitting too much. I just do not believe that a single thing causes and that a single thing cures. The body is a very complex chemistry lab. I agree with this, with the following very specific qualification... Different people have different metabolic types - some (actually, as much as many people don't want to admit it, the numbers seem to indicate 'most') people do best on a high animal protein, low carb diet, while others do better on a high carb (complex carbs - no one does best on the crap-carbs), low/no animal protein diet. Most, of course, fall somewhere in between the two extremes. The key to permanent weight loss is to eat right for your metabolic type. Yes, this is *similar* to the 'Eat Right For Your [Blood] Type' diet, but it is *not* the same. There were always a number of people who this just didn't work for, and the *metabolic* type resolves those anomalies. Google is your friend and there is a lot of information on this on the net, but you can begin reading about this on Dr. Mercola's site here: http://tinyurl.com/3n8cg And you can sign up for his free nutritional typing email mini-course here: http://tinyurl.com/345pnu Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: messages
Maybe you need to work on your mail, or change ISP's. Internet mail has had a few problems lately, here and there. No one should *ever* use their ISP for their email... Either get your own domain, or sign up for a free gmail account, then you never have to worry about moving (or changing ISP's) again... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Question - Liquid Oxygen Supplements
Yes this is very different from Hydrogen Peroxide http://www.hwize.com/stabilized-oxygen/stabilized-oxygen.html Have a read on this site and others. It takes oxygen into the body via the digestive system. While there is one person whose opinion I value who claims that a certain 'stabilized oxygen' product has helped them, I still strongly lean toward 99% of everything said about them being pure marketing hype, and the product itself *vastly* overpriced. Said another way - it is a rip off, don't buy into it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Parasites
Hi, Charles, I'm sorry, What I have is Fiberzon. I don't read carefully, but all these things are confusing. Which makes it that much more important that you read *very* *carefully*... otherwise, you will never really know what you have tried and what you haven't tried, and if we hadn't caught this, you may have tried it, fond that it didn't work, then declared to yourself 'homozon doesn't work for me' - this is insane. If you cannot take the time to be precise, then no one can help you, least of all yourself. What does Homozon have in it? Had you bothered to read any of the links about it - or spent 30 seconds on a google search, you would not need to ask. It is simply ozone bound to magnesium through a proprietary process. Maybe someone has said, but I don't seem to have filed the information. Ruth - and again, this is being said with the best of intentions - you *must* stop relying so much on what someone else tells you - whether that is your doctor, or someone (like me) on some mail list somewhere - and start finding things out for yourself - but this will only work if you are very careful and *precise*. Google is your friend. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Parasites
Charles, Also Thanks for your continuing help. I understand that you really do care. Good... :) now, get to googling! ;) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: vinegar facts
Acetic acid is an organic chemical with the precise chemical formula. CH3COOH If it deviates from that formula, at all, it's not Acetic Acid...at all. Acetic Acid is Acetic Acid no matter where it comes from or how it's made. Milk is not a specific organic chemical. Any comparisons cannot hold water. The analogy was 'vinegar' - 'milk', NOT 'acetic acid' - 'milk'... But this must mean that you believe that petroleum based synthetic analogs of natural vitamins - since they are chemically identical - can/will provide the same benefit as the natural form - which has been proven to be totally false. If Acetic Acid is some sort of culprit and both vinegars have a 5% concentration, they will be equally harmful DUE TO ACETIC ACID CONTENT. Not true - which you actually point out below... This one cannot have harmful concentrations and that one not, if the concentrations are the same. True enough, as far as it goes - however, googling reveals numerous references suggesting that concentrations vary widely from what is claimed (both on the label and in marketing material). Now, other materials present might help protect from negative effects of Acetic Acid at a given concentration [ if there really are any] ..BUT..that deviates from the subject of harm from consuming -Acetic Acid- Again, true enough... *This* cannot be good and *that* bad, if they are exactly the same. That was my point. Just because distilled vinegar and raw apple cider vinegar both contain 5% acetic acid, doe *not* mean they are the same thing. This vinegar contains good Acetic Acid and that vinegar contains bad Acetic Acid, makes no sense at all. I agree - good thing thats not what I said (or meant). The only *rational* arguments possible are: What does Acetic Acid do, in what environment? No, since we aren't talking *specifically* about acetic acid, but about two very different forms of *vinegar*, the only rational argument possible is: what does each form of vinegar do, in what environment, and how do the behaviors *differ*? Unrefined apple vinegar and distilled vinegar may be different environments for the Acetic Acid , but that doesn't account for the other environments included when either is being used. True enough... but stand-alone pointless... For instance: At 5% Acetic Acid concentration and a given equal amount being consumed, is distilled vinegar consumed soon before or after drinking apple cider any different from apple cider vinegar? But of *course* they are different - since raw apple cider vinegar is *not* the same thing as 'apple cider' (is this raw, organic apple cider? or store bought crap?) + 'distilled vinegar', your comment is just as much 'stand alone nonsense' as Dr Walkers... But one thing is logically crystal clear: Dr Norman Walkers statement, taken as presented without further clarification, is -stand alone nonsense-. By ignorance, by carelessness, or by intentional attempts at propaganda.It's clearly illogical. While the precise chemical composition of acetic acid in each vinegar may be the same, their behaviors can be *very* different, due to the nature of the *rest* of the *remaining* *95%* of each. But I agree, his comment, with respect purely to acetic acid content, doesn't make a lot of sense, so I'll be digging out his book sometime this week when I have time and get the context. Until then, the rest of your comments are pure fantasy based on nothing but smoggy air, but feel free to continue, since you appear to be in love with listening to yourself speak... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Parasites
Hi, Charles, The brand of bile salts I am trying (first time today) is Cholacol 2425 Standard Process, Inc. I believe that this is a reputable place to purchase alternative treatments. It is a proprietary blend 721 Mg. Collinsonia (root) and purified bovine bile salts. I am concerned about using it because it does contain .2mg iron. I usually avoid iron supplements like the plague. I know this is a tiny amount, but still, it makes me uneasy. Other ingredients are honey and calcium stearate. I don't think the amount of iron is anything to worry about, and yes, this should be a decent brand although I've never used it. Today my bowel action is stuck fast again and I am getting uncomfortable. Trouble is that intestinal gas tends to cause material to back up into pockets and twists of my colon. There is a particular pocket in my rectum past which I can never pass stool without manual intervention. I realize this is not a good topic to pursue on the list, so sorry , all . Ruth, Ruth... the homozon would help so quickly to relieve this, although, as discussed, you would have to find your comfort dosage. About Homozon and it is without an e, but thanks for the warning. Gail has sent me a plan for starting use in a gradual fashion. If and when I get brave enough I may try it out in the way she suggests. It does have nine different herbs in it sigh Ruth, you're not reading closely again... if that stuff has any herbs in it, *IT* *IS* *NOT* *HOMOZON*, *REGARDLESS* of how it is spelled. COMPARE THE PICTURE. Please, Ruth, read what is being said, and *DON'T* *MAKE* *ASSUMPTIONS*. Sorry for yelling... I really really really am yelling with good intentions... :)) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Ehrlichiosis
My Bichon Frise has had hemolytic anemia, a similar disease in that antigens attach themselves to rbc's and his body then attacks them. If the antibiotics arent' working you might try giving him enzymes (I used Vitalzyme) twice a day to dissolve any foreign protein that is on the surface of the cells... Only protease will do this - and only if taken on an empty stomach. That said, taking [a good quality] protease all by itself on an empty stomach can work wonders for many conditions. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: vinegar facts
As for distilled vinegar - from Norman Walkers Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices: ... distilled vinegar has concentrated amounts of acetic acid which can destroy red blood corpuscles and interfere with the digestive process. It can also contribute to hardening in the liver (cirrhosis), as well as duodenal and other intestinal ulcers. Your implication in this context is incorrect. It isn't 'my' implication, it is Dr. Norman Walkers - if you disagree, then go argue with him. The active ingredient in vinegar is acetic acid. Wrong. Acetic acid is *an* active ingredient in *all* vinegars. I think it is probably *the* active ingredient in *distilled* vinegar, but it certainly is not *the* active ingredient in raw organic apple cider vinegar, although it is, of course a major factor. Malic acid, numerous enzymes, potassium, and many other known and unknown co-factors are present in raw apple cider vinegar. Also, it would not surprise me in the least if the distillation process *alters* the acetic acid such that it is not the same as that found in natural vinegar. If you dispute this, then you probably also think that there is no difference between pasteurized/homogenized milk and raw milk from healthy cows. Both Certified Bragg Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar and Heinz distilled vinegar indicate that they each have 5% acetic acid content. So what? Both pasteurized/homogenized milk contain fat - but the *form* of the fat is very *unhealthy* in the pasteurized/homogenized milk, and very *healthy* (for most people) in the raw form. Re-read my 'egg' analogy. Don't drink a bottle of either, but if a teaspoon of Bragg won't hurt you then a teaspoon of Heinz won't hurt you. Man, you really are good at throwing out strawmen, aren't you. A teaspoon of heinz may not kill you, but if you take it long term, it *will* stress the system and eventually lead to problems, while regular use of raw apple cider vinegar will produce - sometimes dramatic - *healthful* results. Granted, you will be getting additional nutrition out of the Bragg vinegar but that is not the same as saying that Heinz will destroy your red blood corpuscles etc and implying that Bragg vinegar will not... Heinz *will* - *if* taken in the long term - destroy red blood corpuscles, and Bragg's will *not*. The Heinz site also mentioned that certain cut price vinegars might be made from petroleum products so it would be prudent to use one made from alcohol as both Heinz and Bragg are. But you say this as if they were the same - and if you really believe that, then what in the hell are you doing on an alternative health list? You may as well go to the WebMD site and start recommending to people to get chemo and radiation treatments when they ask questions about cancer treatment options. I don't know for a fact if those made from petroleum products are actually detrimental (in a factual way, not just imagined) Right... ok, you just confirmed my above comment wasn't actually that far-fetched... but I probably wouldn't use much of a product of that type to be on the safe side. Ok, so you're not a *total* moron then... good for you... Do I need to say more? That is up to you... but if you do, I will most likely have to correct you again... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Vinegar
I stopped using white vinegar years ago when I learned that Gallic acid was added to it.It is artificial and much cheaper; and mucho harmful. Harold PS: makes darn good weed killer,mixed with salt and liquid dish detergent. Distilled vinegar shines as a cleanser, but never thought of using it as a weed killer... should be fairly safe too... thanks for the tip. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: vinegars
On 7/10/2007, Dan Nave (dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com) wrote: Distilled white vinegar is *very* *toxic* if taken internally. Raw Apple Cider Vinegar provides *numerous* health benefits if taken internally. I find both those statements hard to swallow. Ok, had a good laugh - then decided I wasn't sure if you were just joking, or if you were actually serious... They are true, nonetheless... I don't agree that your statements are true... Well, then, I guess it is a good thing for the rest of us that facts don't require *your* agreement, Dan. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Parasites
Hi, Charles, I have tried both bile salts and meds containing hydrochloric acid. They didn't help. Have tried them both relatively recently and longer ago. They did not help. Which brands? What 'meds'? For how long? In combination with what other drugs/supplements? One of the biggest mistakes people make (because it is so easy to do due to the inordinate amount of mis/dis-information on the internet) is to try a poor brand/version of 'x' that is supposed to be good for some particular ailment - or try something while at the same time doing something else that is contra-indicated and will nullify the effects - then declare that 'x' doesn't work'. Analogy: *Both* of the following statements - as far as they go - are 100% true: 1. Eggs are extremely unhealthy and should be avoided as part of any healthy diet 2. Eggs are extremely nutritious - some call them natures perfect food - and should be included as part of any healthy diet. The reason both of these are true is, I didn't differentiate between: 1. Eggs that come from egg 'factories - where chickens liver their entire lives in 1x1 foot cages doing nothing but eating laying mash laced with antibiotics and other drugs to keep them alive and laying as many eggs as possible, and 2. Eggs that come from chickens that are free to roam in the open air and sunshine, eat pesticide free grass, shrubs, bugs and other goodies natural to their diet, and have visits with Mr Rooster. So, just because you took 'something' that was called 'bile salts' or supposedly had HCL in it, does NOT necessarily mean that you took them in their proper form and/or amounts - or were not taking them in combination with some other drug/substance that was nullifying their effect. All that said, you are correct that I don't *know* what is wrong with you, but from what you have said of your symptoms, I am as certain as I can be that your missing Gall Bladder is the primary problem, and your lack of bile salts and HCL supplementation - in proper quantities and of the proper quality - is the most likely solution. Make your best decision with the information that you have been given, and I send you all my best wishes for finding relief... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: transit time
I've been having a LOT more diarrhea than usual lately (been eating carbs again). And it got me to thinking--if we averaged your several days transit time with my maximum of about 2-3 hours, we might average out to be about normal. LOL, though not really funny, I've had IBS for over 30 years. This could easily explain why you experience 'symptoms' when ingesting raw whole vinegars and/or fermented dairy products... the *good* critters in these start stirring things up. As for distilled vinegar - from Norman Walkers Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices: ... distilled vinegar has concentrated amounts of acetic acid which can destroy red blood corpuscles and interfere with the digestive process. It can also contribute to hardening in the liver (cirrhosis), as well as duodenal and other intestinal ulcers. What you need to do is address the *problem* - and a serious colon cleansing is what is required. It may take many sessions over a period of months - or even a year or more - to get to the heart of it, for serious cases. Dr Schulze's colon cleanse will do just that. His #2 formula is especially soothing for people with IBS - you just use enough to control the diarrhea, and the activated charcoal, clay, and herbs will draw out the toxins, chemicals and impacted fecal matter, until your bowel is clean. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Brain Injuries
Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries? My 21 year old son was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of Saturday morning and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life support. I don't know whether to pray for his death or his life because I don't know the quality of life expected - nobody knows. If anyone has any information, please share it. Thank you. Frankie DMSO applied liberally to the brain stem and spinal column has been known to totally prevent brain damage from trauma, and things like strokes - but it must be done ASAP HURRY!!! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: vinegars
Well, then, I guess it is a good thing for the rest of us that facts don't require *your* agreement, Dan. Speak for yourself, dude... I am... and do every day. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: vinegars
Seriously joking. I don't believe white vinegar is made from petroleum (unless it is imported from China, then I'd believe it)(though I guess just about anything *could* be made into vinegar), so far as I'm aware it is made from fermented grain, according to a google search the most common grain used is probably corn. You didn't google far enough... and no one said 'white distilled vinegar *is* made from petroleum - I said it *can* *be* made from petroleum... Raw Apple Cider Vinegar may indeed provide health benefits, but I will never know, it gives me severe diarrhea in even very small quantities, and cutting back and trying to work up to even a tablespoon doesn't work, my intestines just don't get used to it. Then you most likely have something else going on, although I guess it is possible that this is some kind of allergic reaction... If you have any actual proof the petroleum/white vinegar thing, I'd like to see it. If what you have is claims from one or another health authority I'm not interested to see those. Google is your friend: vinegar+petroleum yields http://tinyurl.com/25akun I certainly do *not* consider the FDA a 'health authority - do you? But again, no one said *all* of it is... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Bile salts
How about this? Doctor's Trust Digestive Enzymes, 180 tablet, Formula $4.49 http://www.doctorstrust.com/item/DT0751-1.html Of course, it has some other digestive enzymes too, as well as 450 mg of ox bile extract... Not saying these are not good, but... cheaper is not always better - in fact, it usually *isn't*... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: vinegars
Heinz Distilled White Vinegar Ingredients: Made form select sun-ripened grain, diluted with water to a uniform pickling and table strength of 5% (50 grains) acidity. True enough (but many white vinegars *are* petroleum based), but beside the *main* point... Distilled white vinegar is *very* *toxic* if taken internally. Raw Apple Cider Vinegar provides *numerous* health benefits if taken internally. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Re: vinegars
Ingredients: Made form select sun-ripened grain, diluted with water to a uniform pickling and table strength of 5% (50 grains) acidity. True enough (but many white vinegars *are* petroleum based), but beside the *main* point... Distilled white vinegar is *very* *toxic* if taken internally. Raw Apple Cider Vinegar provides *numerous* health benefits if taken internally. I find both those statements hard to swallow. Ok, had a good laugh - then decided I wasn't sure if you were just joking, or if you were actually serious... They are true, nonetheless... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Parasites
Hi, Pat, Sounds like my upper ribcage pain.I don't have any success, either with getting my regular doctor and a gastroenterologist interested in finding out exactly what is causing this pain. More than likely the reason you don't have any success is they *know* what is causing it - your missing gallbladder - but will not tell you this for different reasons - it makes them *responsible* for the problem, and telling what to do to *fix* it (like taking bile salts and HCL supplements) would not make them any money. It really is that simple Ruth. Until you stop following them blindly down the primrose path, you will continue to experience precisely this. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Bile salts Storage and Availability
I agree and would never even consider taking drugs to lower my levels there are too many other things you can do naturally to lower them...thanks debbie But part of my point was, the whole *idea* that they need to be 'lowered', or fall within any designated 'range' (determined by whom? by what criteria?) is a scam... not just the selling of the drugs to do the lowering. FORGET ABOUT WHAT YOUR CHOLESTEROL LEVELS ARE. Focus on eating right for your metabolic type - ie, focus on *health*. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: bile salts
C'mon guys, give Ruth a break. All of us, in fact. We all need
compassion and consideration, as we all get what we 'deserve'.
I *am* being compassionate... I'm trying very hard to get Ruth to not
have to spend the rest of her life carrying around a colostomy bag.
Getting old is no picnic- it is not for the faint of heart, or the
cowardly. Everybody dies of something, and it is often painful and
difficult.
I agree - but what would be more 'painful and difficult' - a few
'tough-love' words from someone Ruth has never met in person before that
just might get her to try something that would save her from the horrors
of a colostomy - or the horrors of having to live with a colostomy?
And Ruth - don't let what someone else says about it - I have known 3
people that had one, and while publicly, they all said essentially what
you heard ('its not so bad') - privately, they told me they would give
*anything* to go back in time and be able to choose *not* to do it.
It is your life, however... and you are the one who has to live with the
consequences of your own choices.
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CSRe: Bile salts Storage and Availability
I cannot persuade my friend who is diabetic; no matter how much literature I show her to the contrary, that statin drugs are BAD! She still faithfully takes it because, *her doctor says she should have low cholesterol because she is diabetic* nothing I can say will change her mind so I have given up. Dee I know exactly what you mean, and for this you *do* have my sympathy. I had to watch an Aunt of mine die a slow death from cancer, with her knowing what to do to get well (one thing being to give up her 6+ diet pepsi's per day), but her simply refusing to do anything... it is frustratingly maddening... and so unnecessary. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Organic Silver/ Simple Generators
I do like my 52 VDC phone line generator. I have made and given away many of these.Small, compact, voltage every where, no batteries, no transformers. Just a two bit phone line cord plugs into the phone outlet and the Surface Terminal block I use to contain everything. Only 3 parts inside, LED, resistor, and a full wave bridge to keep the red clip positive and the black clip negative when the phone line has switched polarity, which I find from time to time. Brilliant! This is the first I've heard of it... care to share again? Thanks! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: bile salts
I am not using extra enzymes or bile salts right now. Would like to, but am trying to follow Dr.s plan right now. This is sad - because once you have gone all the way down that path, most often the damage is done, and the alternative methods will NO LONGER WORK. If you do everything the doc tells you, and get worse and worse to the point that 'there is no alternative but to remove part of your colon', it will be too late, and you will have only *yourself* to blame, because *now*, you have exposed yourself to *real* *alternatives* *that* *can* *allow* *your* *body* *to* *heal* *itself*. I will not feel anything but pity for you at that point - you will have gotten what you 'deserve'. Why not get radical, and *take* *responsibility*, as opposed to blind obedience to petty-god-wanna-be's? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Bile salts Storage and Availability
Wayne this is interesting...my cholesterol is 223 and my blood pressure was sneaking up, got it down alright but was unaware that it is okay for levels to be between 200 and 300. Thanks debbie The only benefit to monitoring cholesterol levels is to the pharmaceutical companies that sell cholesterol lowering drugs, that the doctor himself will admit - if pressed - have *never* been proven to do *anything* other than 'lower cholesterol a few point... but *not* to reduce by even a *fraction* your risk of heart disease, heart attack or stroke. IT IS A SCAM. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: OT - Apple Cider Vinegar Tea - OT
Hi, Charles, I'm afraid it was plain old Heinz variety. Ack-argh! Ruth, this is very, *critically* important for you to understand... and please don't take this the wrong way - I'm yelling at you because I *care*... :) You can *not* ignore things like this, especially when self-treating! The brand/form of something is *absolutely*, *100%* *critical* for things like this. I *specifically* said 'raw, organic' MORE THAN ONCE. If you are going to IGNORE instructions like this, then do not be surprised when something doesn't work, or, even worse, causes *more* problems. Plain, white distilled vinegar of the 'Heinz' variety is so far removed from raw, organic applie cider vinegar, that there is simply NO COMPARISON. I'm afraid to even make any more suggestions, now that you have deomonstrated your refusal to read and comprehend simple instructions. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: OT - Apple Cider Vinegar Tea - OT
Our Farmer's Market opens that day, It is only open on Thursdays from 2:30 to 5:30 and this year, for the first time, on Saturday mornings for a couple of hours. I am looking forward to fresh green beans and zucchini. I rather doubt that much of this produce is organic, but at least it is relatively fresh if you get there early, and hasn't sat in the store for who knows how long. Actually, locally grown produce *can* be much better for you than even store-bought organic produce - *if* the local grower doesn't use pesticides and crappy chemical fertilizers... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Re: OT - Apple Cider Vinegar Tea - OT
Charles, do you know any thing about coconut vinegar? its supposed to have mother just like apple cider vinegar. Ive been wondering about it and this seems a good opportunity to ask. Meg'gan Hmmm... never heard of it before now... Googling... http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/coconut_vinegar.htm Very interesting... thanks for the heads up... :) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Bile salts Storage and Availability
but my brilliant surgeon gave me, when I couldn't afford the get the prescription pain killer, several doses of Advil in case I needed to help the paineven though though I told him I had already had a allergic reaction to NSAIDS. The pain was a bit more then I could handle and as I knew none of the things I go now about helping with pain, I finally took ONE dose of Advil. within 24 hours I was in the ER where I stayed for 6 hours as they tried unsuccessfully to get and IV into my swollen body, the I was transfered to I private room upstairs. considering I was on medicad (no frills for the poor usually), this freaked my visiting friends out a bit. I was released after about 3, maybe 4 days, and my discharge nurse gave me a hug and said we all glad your all right, you gave us quite a scare! I looked at her amazed, I knew I was sick and swollen but apparently had no idea how bad. Methinks the only reason they treated you so well is because you should have sued their collective pants off - and you most likely would have owned the hospital if you had. That (giving you a script for NSAIDS when you told them you had had an allergic reaction before) was *gross* negligence, and they *knew* it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Re: homozon
Some brands a don't have the stabilizers, just 3% H2O2 and purified water. Diamond brand from Aaron Industries , Clinton S.Carolina is one. ode But it is still *much* cheaper to buy food grade 35%, and then dilute it down to 3%, if you will be using it in any quantities... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Zeolite questions/anybody
Try the website: www.eytonsearth.org/ and the Eytonsearth Yahoogroup: eytonsea...@yahoogroups.com Doubly recommended... best site/group going for all things 'clay'... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: bile salts - ruth
Have had trouble previously with bile salts and other things suggested. What helps with upper abdomen problems makes more in the lower areas. Hi Ruth, The problem could easily have been the 'brand' or form that you were taking. I have seen this more times than I can count - someone tries a *bad* form/brand of something which is ineffective - or worse, causes them more distress - then decides that it is the thing itself that is ineffective/bad, not realizing if they took the good form/brand, it would work as advertised. This is especially problematic with 'vitamin/herb' supplements, but can potentially happen with any product... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Food Combining
Hi everyone, An interesting free e-book I came across today on food combining... Haven't read it yet, so, cannot vouch for its contents, but - well, its free... ;) http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/E-Book/Food-Combining.shtml Enjoy! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: OT - Apple Cider Vinegar Tea - OT
However, I have used the vinegar treatment several more times without any success at all. Don't have a clue why it worked so well the first time. That time may just have coincided with a period of time around supper hour when now and then things will suddenly get better without my doing anything special. But that time, I thought the effect was different in some way, so I was hopeful . Did that again this evening, and the burning as I type, is really, really strong. Think I sent you a message earlier, a day or so ago, Charles about why I doubt that I can use the meds suggested on the link you sent. Unless I am speaking to two different Charlses. Hi Ruth, Well, I'm sorry to hear that... the only question I have is, what brand of vinegar was it? Was it raw, and organic? The next question is, in the subject you said 'Tea' - I just want to confirm that the water is plain, unheated water? Hot water would kill/deactivate most if not all of the enzymes in the vinegar, which is what works the magic. One other thing you could try is also mixing some raw honey with it - and again, by raw honey, I mean truly raw. There are only a very few commercially available brands that are truly raw - YS Organics, and 'Really Raw' are two that I am sure of. I have seen a couple more brands at Harry's the last time I bought honey that looked like they were really raw, but haven't tried any of them yet. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon/mercury poisoning/Richard
According to Waiora, the manufacturer of liquid Zeolite, it is completely non toxic and safe to give to a child. Just to be sure, please contact them, they'd be happy to answer your question. Yes - go ask an MLM manufacturer if their product - which is *extremely* expensive - is safe to take. What kind of answer would you expect them to give? I loathe MLM for a reason... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Going Bananas and drinking enough water
A better rule of thumb is take your body weight, divide by 2 and this is the number of ounces of water needed per day. This comes out to one half ounce of water per pound per day. Note that this may exceed 8 cups a day for some. A half ounce per pound seems a reasonable amount to me to keep the body both hydrated and flushed. 'Seems reasonable' is not what I would call a good general rule of thumb. The recommendation you gave above - again - has no scientific basis in *fact*. Basing a recommendation solely on body weight is meaningless. Other factors that would *have* to be considered before it would even *begin* to be 'reasonable' would be: 1. Environment (does the person live in the Sahara desert or in Maine?) 2. Activity level (sedentary or active lifestyle)? 3. Dietary habits (does the person eat a lot of high water content foods?) 4. Current state of health/BMI (is the person obese?) Etc... see my point? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Ruths digestive problem...
I don't have a gall bladder any more. Bingo! Ruth, the gall bladder is responsible for storing bile produced by the liver, and then dumping it when it is needed for digestion of fats - bile is what is *required* to digest fats of any kind... See this link for more info: http://tinyurl.com/32eeva Then see this link - scroll down to where it talks about 'Gall Bladder Relief Kits'... You absolutely need to start taking bile - and I'd say HCL supplements - asap... this very well may be the 'miracle' you've been looking for. I put 'miracle' in quotes because it really isn't - it is just the ignorance of the doctors that have been treating you. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Free Radicals, Good or Bad ?
I always understood that when oxygen was 'burnt' it produced 'free radicals' (i.e. Waste product) which lodged in muscles, This is a complex subject with a lot of double talk existing. The body has been making them since Day 1. I would liken the question of free radicals to cancer - *everyone* has cancer cells in their body, *all* *the* *time*. The problem is not the cancer, it is the the body's inability to properly *deal* *with* the cancerous cells as and when they form. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon
Oxygen IS the free radical. Oxygen wants very much to be a molecule of 2 Oxygen atoms [O2] A little confusing... there is a difference between an oxygen *atom* (O1) and an oxygen *molecule* (O2). When it's in a unstable compound in an unbalance state like in Hydrogen Peroxide [H2O2 ] and Ozone [O3] there is that extra oxygen that will join another one making O2 as a part of that molecule burning it, or sucking an Oxygen atom off virtually anything it contacts, especially organic molecules. Ozone, in 'therapeutic' levels of concentration, will *not* harm healthy tissue, but *will* react with unhealthy tissue (and chemicals and pesticides and pretty much any other inorganic toxin in the body)... I can see where just the right amount of O3 or H2O2 introduced into the body could be a benefit, both by scavenging free radicals there and by killing off weaker cells to stimulate growth of new ones to replace them...but.. over doing it could also be big trouble. Overdoing anything can cause problems - but therapeutic ozone is *very* safe and has been around for a *long* time. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon
** Make no mistake. Ozone WILL burn healthy tissues and so will Hydrogen Peroxide. Correction - ozone (or H2O2) - in high enough *concentrations* - will burn healthy tissue. At normal (therapeutic) levels, it will *not*... PERIOD. I know - I have a medical grade ozone generator made by Saul Pressman (and have been using it for many years). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon
I am somewhat confused as to the best way to detox mercury from my body. Am I thinking right about getting ozone in my body will do this completely, or rather the best way to go about this? Poisoned with mercury! Mercury is a tough critter - probably one of the toughest. Cilantro slurries is one way, but chlorella is probably the strongest natural chelator of mercury. I would alternate cilantro/chlorella slurries with bentonite clay/activated charcoal slurries if it were me, but it will take time... I have heard of the zeolite, but I loathe MLM products... but who knows, it could be for real. I'd love to see some *real* scientific studies (as opposed to marketing hype)... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon
Hi, Charles, Last summer I used H202 to soak veggies and in my bath. Didn't read an article carefully , or else decided that food-grade stuff was too expensive. Think I also thought the stuff that was listed as being in the OTC H202 couldn't be that harmful if you can gargle with it. I have since wondered if some of my worsening colon problems could have been affected by that. Any thoughts? Taking too much H2O2 internally - *especially* too high a concentration - can most certainly cause digestive/stomach problems. It is definitely much more problematic than drinking ozonated water (you can't make it too strong, because water will only so hold so much ozone before it is 'saturated' and refuses to take any more), which is highly preferred. I no longer recommend to anyone to take H2O2 internally - although it can be safe, if done in moderation and with care. If you weren't actually drinking water with added H2O2, but were only taking baths and gargling, then I am confident saying it didn't have anything to do with your current problems... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: NO subject line is a disaster
On Gmail, which I use, I never see the subject line in the message I'm replying to so I can't change it. There doesn't seem to be an option for it. That is a disaster and reason enough to NOT USE IT. Why use such a stupid piece of software ? Click the 'Edit Subject' link (beside the 'Attach File' link) to edit the subject... this really should be a configuration option (to always show the subject in replies)... But I do hate every webmail interface I've ever tried, including Gmails... Seems several people are using Gmail. For what reason? Free? Lots of storage that you can also use for off-line storage of files? POP access (so I can use my favorite client - Thunderbird)? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Going Bananas
Hi, Faith, Thanks for your backing up my banana consumption! I am drinking 10-12 14 oz. of water daily Yikes! That sounds like way too *much* water to me! There is lots of room for argument *against* the *theory* of '8 glasses a day'. You may be DILUTING your digestive juices with so much water. Also... You should NEVER drink with a meal - not even water! A *little* bit is ok, but I'd say no more than 3-4 ounces with your meal. This could seriously be a large part of your problem. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon
So oxygen is not the thing that causes free radicals, as I always thought? That is correct - it does not. Ozone, which *is* an oxidant, will oxodize toxins (whilenot harming healthy tissue) which can then be removed using clay/bentonite slurries (the absolute best way to remove heavy metals/chemicals/pesticides, etc) with little to no strain on the normal eliminative organs (liver/kidneys, colon and skin). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: NO subject line is a disaster ( Idiot Programmers )
The fact that you have to click on a box to change the subject shows that some idiot programmer was involved. That is totally unnecessary. One click wasted. Not really... in general, the subject should only rarely have to be changed. About the only time I do is when replying to list digests. One thing that really bugs me is idiots that hijack threads by replying to a message, changing the subject to something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, which then looks ugly on any sane threaded mail client. Most mailers allow changing anything without telling it, Hey, I want to change the subject. Yes - and most mailers also promote top-posting - so does that mean that top-posting is *good*? I see you are a bottom-poster, so good for you, but you will never change the world, and the vast majority of people top-post and: 1. don't know they are doing it 2. don't care if/when you try to explain it to them 3. have no plans to change because some people (like me) don't like it So, I disagree that having to click a button to do something that you rarely should be doing anyway is a bad thing. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Food Combining
Morning Charles, And a very good morning - er - afternoon to you, Wayne, Thanks for the tips and ideas on proper food combining. You should not mix them with any cooked foods, *especially* meat or potatoes. Also - melons - the rule is 'eat them alone or LEAVE them alone'. Most people don't understand this very well, me included. And of course they don't practice anything along these lines. I know - I know the rules, and still find myself violating them on occasion. Proper Food Combining rules are general in nature. Many people are capable of violating them to varying degrees with little to no real discomfort for varying lengths of time (years, even decades), unaware of the stress they are putting on their digestive system. Any more information or rules, outlines you can provide would be appreciated. The bottom line is, the higher the water content of the fruit or vegetable, the further along the line of 'eat it alone' it falls. This is why melons are at the extreme - they are almost 100% water - which is also why they require no time in the stomach. The problem rears its ugly head when you eat something that *does* require digestion in the stomach, and something that *doesn't*. The pyloric valve will close, causing the fruit (or whatever) to just sit there for hours fermenting, when it would have simply passed straight through. This can cause gas - and even sometimes far worse problems - for many people. I often wonder about eating a salad before meals or with a meal. Surprisingly, according to some, meats should be eaten *first* - so, a salad, which is usually served *first*, should in reality come *last* - the exception to this, of course, is a *fruit* salad... ;) I know that when I eat a sald *after* the main course, I feel better than if I eat it *before*. The primary rule is, don't mix (or at least minimize mixing) foods that require acid for digestion (ie, meats) and foods that require an alkaline medium (starches). A good link (I don't agree with everything this guy writes, but this is a decent general intro to the idea): http://chetday.com/fcnecess.html There are, of course, some people that can eat just about anything their entire lives, live to 105, and be the picture of health up to the day they die. They are the exception, however, not the rule. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon
So... You are saying that you will get a free radicals from ozonation and you have to follow up with antioxidants. OK. No - please do not put words in my mouth. oxidant != 'free radical' And that term 'free radical' is mostly a made up term. You do *not* need to clean up any free radicals after doing ozone - but, the ozone *will* oxidize a lot of crap that the body will have to expel somehow - and the bentonite/charcoal slurry is the most effective way to do this. What if you are taking nutritive antioxidant food supplements while you are using homozone, is that not enough? There is no 'e' at the end of the word 'homozon' (the main reason I point this out is because there is another product that goes/went by the name 'homozonE' that was *not* 'homozon', the original Blass Therapy). You do *not* want to take anti-oxidants while taking ozone. You either need to take them about 8 hours BEFORE, or an hour AFTER (ozone takes an hour or so to break down completely, but the anti-oxidants can hang around much longer). Understand, it won't *hurt* anything if you mix them, its just that the anti-oxidants will lessen or cancel the effects of the ozone. I have never heard of Clay/Bentonite slurries Oops... typo - I meant clay/charcoal slurries - these consist of bentonite clay and activated charcoal - two of the main ingredients in Dr Schulze's #2 bowel formula. but if they remove heavy metals and chemicals and have not side effects I am all ears. Please do tell. ~Norine Google is your friend... www.eytonsearth.com is a great resource for everything you want to learn about the healing power of clays, and just google on 'activated charcoal' for all you need to know about that. As long as it is pure and ok for internal use, pretty much any source will do. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Going Bananas and drinking enough water
*against* the *theory* of '8 glasses a day'. Yeah, there is a lot of room for arguement against anything that is odd to our pattern of thinking. True enough - google on '8 glasses of water a day myth' and read for a few days to see that there is most definitely room for argument about this as a *general* rule. Certainly there are situations where it may be warranted (everyone is different, and some people live in much harsher climates than others), but to spout this as a *general* rule is absurd. Also - maybe you missed that Ruth said she was drinking TEN TO TWELVE, FOURTEEN OUNCE glasses a day - this is more than TWICE the '8 glasses a day' rule. I say again - Ruth, if you are listening - STOP DRINKING SO MUCH WATER. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Digestion System Problems
Hi, Leslie, The surgeon I am working with says the same thing. He very much does not want to do the surgery except as a last resort . I am not sure I can convince him about using alternative things, though. When I mentioned Bentonite Clay, for instance, with regard to increasing fiber, ( withpsyllium), he said he didn't know anything about that. Bentonite by itself is a very powerful cleanser, but in no way can it be considered 'fiber'. I agree with Gail - be very careful with anything that increases bulk, which both fiber products and bentonite clay will do - although again, the clay is not fiber. I hesitate about things like homozon, I would very strongly urge you to reconsider with respect to the homozon - I really cannot imagine it causing you any distress at all, and I believe it would provide much relief. I not only hae to deal with my colon, but also with this quite severe burning upper center ribcage burning which is almost harder to put up with than the bowel problem. Would you describe this as 'heartburn', or 'indigestion'? If so, one very simple thing that will usually solve this kind of problem is, believe it or not, raw apple cider vinegar - say, a teaspoon or so in an 8 oz glass of water. Most people don't know that heartburn is not a problem of too *much* acid, it is a problem of not *enough* - demonstrated by the fact that adding raw apple cider vinegar will cure the problem (it is good for many other things as well). Just be sure it is raw and organic (I like Braggs)... All my best to you... Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Colon-Digestive Problems
Hi, Charles. The antigas med I spoke of is the drugstore brand of colace, consists of simethicone. It is available OTC and is less expensive than the name brands. IF I don't take it, the gas piles up in there and seems to stop everything. I sometimes take an enema and the first return will frequently be preceded by a huge passage of gas and water. I don't pretend to know exactly what is going on with you, but gas is *generally* the result of fermentation - which is generally the result of not enough digestive enzymes and/or bile (to digest fats) and or HCL (hydrochloric acid) to digest animal proteins. Have you ever tried a quality HCL and/or Bile digestive aid/supplement? My thoughts are with you... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Colon-Digestive Problems
Hi., Gail, I think I have been confusing homozon with Fiberzon, the cleanse my kids have been trying to get me to go for. I wasn't aware that Homozon involves ozone. I guess I am still a little afraid . For one thing, I do not tolerate citrus fruits at all, due to the pain under my upper ribcage. You do not need to take the lemon juice (I prefer the organic, raw apple cider vinegar, which works just as well) in order to get the laxative benefits of the homozon, due to its very high magnesium content. Also, you only need to take a very little - even a few drops would be enough to release the ozone. Just make sure you take it on an empty stomach. I know that the raw apple cider vinegar may be scary, but it truly has worked miracles for many people with very big digestive problems, so I think it is worth a try, in spite of the fact that you said you react so badly to citrus fruits. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: The Poor Colon
About fiber: I am scared to try all raw foods. Why? Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd start off with a day or two of fasting, then start in on lots of veggie juices and Dr Schulze's potassium broth, combined with heaping tablespoons of superfood (I prefer 'Natures First Food' (http://tinyurl.com/2z4mee) from www.rawfood.com to Dr Schulze's, with some extra Chlorella straight from Taiwan). NO fruit juices (fruits should not be juiced as a rule, although, again, apples can be added for sweetening)... Romaine lettuce once or twice a day is the only vegetable I eat raw. A full cup of romaine lettuce has less than 2 grams of fiber - so it isn't exactly a 'fiber powerhouse', although it is a bit better than iceberg... Do eat bananas and cantalope. I know bananas are supposed to be constipating, but most fruits seem to burn in my upper right ribcage trouble spot, and I need to gain weight. The main thing to understand about fruits... You should not mix them with any cooked foods, *especially* meat or potatoes. Fruits are meant to be digested mostly in the intestines, not the stomach - but if you eat them with 'regular' foods, then they tend to just sit there and ferment (which is why many people get 'gas' when they eat fruit). Some people can tolerate this better than others, obviously... Also - melons - the rule is 'eat them alone or LEAVE them alone'. Don't even mix them with other fruits - melons are meant to be *entirely* digested in the intestines, and can cause lots of gastric distress if eaten with 'regular' food... Some exceptions - apples and papayas (due to their enzyme content, these can act as digestive aids to an extent)... Right now I am passing quite a few stools a day. The general rule of thumb - according to Dr Schulze - is a bowel movement upon first arising, then one movement after each meal (so, one more movement than meals)... But... just because you are having the requisite number of movements does *not* automatically mean that you are 'regular' - and Ruth, I guarantee you, the fact that your transit time is 5-7 days means that this is your problem. If memory serves, transit times for fruits is supposed to be a couple of hours, veggies maybe 3 or 4, and meats/animal proteins, 8 hours or so. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon
Hi Gary, thanks for that info. I always thought that oxygen was a bad thing 'Oxygen' != (does not equal) 'oxidant' Also, ozone != smog Ozone is found in larger concentrations in smog, because it is natures way of trying to *clean it up*. Ozone is responsible for that remarkably fresh, clean smell you smell after a thunderstorm. I have asked this on the list before, but no answers. I understood that oxygen caused degeneration, which is why we take 'anti' oxidants. Any thoughts on this? Dee There is even room for argument about the whole oxidant/antioxidant thing... But, the bottom line is, ozone, used appropriately, is one of the most powerful healing tools available. Google on 'ozone sauna', ozone insufflation', etc - Dr Kellogg (yes, of 'Kellogg Cereal' fame) used it in his sanitarium in the late 1800's and cured all kinds of things (he used hot/cold therapy as well), and Nikola Tesla designed the first cold plasma generator that would last virtually forever (as did most anything he built - he designed the power generators at Niagara Falls, which are still running at the same output today). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Epsom Salts Internally
A friend of mine told me they took a little Epsom salt internally for dehydration in India after vigorous sports. I had never heard of taking it internally, just heard about bathing in it. Jess Pure Epsom Salts is a key ingredient in any good liver/gall bladder program. When flushing, if you have any large stones, there is always the possibility of a stone getting lodged in the bile duct - if this happens, taking Epsom Salts internally will cause the bile duct to relax and allow the stone to pass... this is better than having to go to the hospital for surgery, no? Sulphur based proteins are important. Most Americans do not get enough of these. I think MSM provides some sulphur. MSM *is* [a form of] sulphur... and it is highly available, which is why it is so good for so many things... and is, in fact, a missing ingredient in many bone/joint nutritional supplement formulas. From: http://tinyurl.com/2uqnh8 MSM is a pure and beneficial form of the mineral sulphur. Sulphur is the eight most prevalent mineral in the body. MSM is a naturally occurring nutrient found in nearly all living organisms, plant, animal and human. Foods containing sulphur include grains, legumes, fresh unprocessed vegetables like garlic, onions, cabbage, broccoli and Brussels sprouts. MSM is also found in meat, fish, poultry, eggs and milk (milk for example contains between 2 and 6 parts per million) (1) When we take MSM (organic sulphur) we are simply taking a mineral which should form part of our normal daily diet. MSM is a Sulfonyl - Methyl-sulfonyl-methane. It is not related to the common sulphurs, sulphates, sulphites or sulphur drugs which are known to cause irritation to membranes. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Digestion System Problems
Hi ruth, Was recently tested for transit of food from mouth the exit. It takes 7-8 days . Ten years ago in a similar test it took 5 days. Wow... that is a *long* time. I would strongly urge you to consider the fact that this is the *root* of most/all of your health problems - and if you have had this problem pretty much all of your life, I would ask you to consider a question... Would you rather have surgery, and have to suffer the consequences - and I guarantee you they will be sever - at *best* very unpleasant, and at worst, make you miserable the rest of your life - or, resign yourself to having to take a few relatively inexpensive supplements the rest of your life to keep your bowels working? Both homozon, and Dr Schulze's #1 formula will accomplsih the latter. I strongly urge you to try the homozon, and Dr Schulze's formulas/program before resorting to surgery. Duncans recommendation for SomaLifeHGH is a very good one as well. I just wish it was more affordable. It isn't extremely expensive, but it isn't cheap either. All my best, Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Colon-Digestive Problems
Hi Ruth, I take an antigas med regularly with meals. What would this med be? Oft times, prescribed meds can cause far more problems than they may solve (if they solve anything at all). Also, some meds will cause an alternative solution to appear not to work, when it would work if you stopped the med. Of course, I am not suggesting that you just stop any meds, without first talking to your doc and/or doing some research on potential problems in doing so. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Digestion System Problems
Can you explain how being bound to ozone would not be good? I'm unfamiliar with this. I said it was bound to ozone, meaning it was a *good* thing. Ozone is one of the most powerful healing agents in nature, if used properly (insufflation, bagging, in combo with steam/FIR saunas, etc). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Building strong blood Vessels
Thank you Margaret for that post :) I never knew about Hawthorn. Hawthorne is what Dr Schulze used to cure his own genetic heart disorder (bad valves or something)... But, doing a little research, you will consistently find both Dr Schulze and Dr Christopher (his mentor) that high quality cayenne is the single, most important herb when it comes to heart/circulatory system health. It can save a life during a heart attack and stop a stroke (if taken soon enough), or prevent damage from a stroke if taken soon enough after the fact. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Digestion System Problems
Hi Ruth, I can only say, if it were me, I would run screaming from anyone - Doctor or no - that would even *consider* removing 90% of my colon. I know you said that your surgeon wanted to avoid it - which is good - so maybe he would be willingt to work with you while you do the only sensible thing... Go directly to Dr Schulze's site - www.800herbdoc.com - and immediately get on his bowel cleansing program. You start with formula #1, to get your bowels *working*, then you slowly start on formula #2, to clean out the gunk. Homozon (NOT homozonE) - which is very high in magnesium, but bound to ozone - is something I would keep on hand for emergencies - trust me, there is no constipation that I've ever heard of that it won't relieve straight away. But you need to get to the source of the problem... Hi, Wayne, I guess I must have left out that it was 4-6 oz of prune juice in my post. I have read your post to Dee, I have tried to use a great deal of what you suggest, but tolerate very little of it. Just now I feel I need to follow through on what this Dr. is telling me. We are trying to avoid surgery for an overlong exceedingly slow transit time bowel, 7-8 days from mouth to rectum. Ten years ago a similar test had a transit time of 4 days. I was eating more normally way back then, but never have been able to tolerate apples or alot of raw food, though I would like to. This Dr. is a gastroenterology surgeon. Dr. Tombers is a plain gastroenterologist. His opinion was that there isn't a medicine outhere that will fix what is wrong with my bowel. Both Docs have looked at the recent X-rays. The surgeon is just highly aware of the severe problems that can result from removing 90% of your colon and wants to avoid that if at all possible. Food residue tends to collect in odd places in my colon and back things up. I live in a small village 20 miles from my regular doctor. I tend to get edgy as the weekend approaches, because I know that if I get into trouble over the weekend, the emergency room is of no help whatever. Don't have time for more, but thanks for your suggestions. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: protocols for congestive heart failure (CHF)
My father and my partner both suffer from CHF (Dad was diagnosed 2 weeks ago, Guy a number of years ago). Guy also suffers from IILD. See my prior post on Dr Schulze and Haqwthorne - this is exactly what he had, if memory serves. I would immediatley get on his program for heart health and his lung formula. In fact, I would do his entire program if I had any serious health problem. These herbal formulas are the most potent you can find commercially, and are all made from organically grown and/or wild-harvested herbs harvested at the appropriate time in their growth cycle. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Honey and old scars
is non-pasteurized the same thing as raw?? It depends, of course, on who said it. The problem is, there are legal loopholes manufacturers/processors can use to their advantage... the best example being the one I've already pointed out - that honey producers can legally call their honey 'unheated', even when it has been heated to 160 degrees. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Honey and old scars
Thanks Charles, where it the best place to get raw honey. Locally produced is always best, IF... and I repeat, IF... you are certain that it is truly raw (not processed with heat greater than is normal for a hot day in your area), and is not contaminated (either from poor handling methods or poisoned pollination sources). The only commercially available brands that I know of that are truly raw are 'Really Raw', and YS Organics. I prefer YS Organics, but either will do... I can buy both at my local Harry's/Whole Foods, but they are also available online (Google is your friend)... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Honey and old scars
Does it correct scars that are indented? Does it help rejuvenate collagen production? It helps any and all skin conditions - and is an incredible 'beauty' facial - apply liberally to the face, let sit for at least 15 minutes (the longer the better, up to an hour), then simply rinse the face... It is rumored that raw honey was one of Cleopatra's beauty secrets... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Honey and old scars
Scars - even old, large, deep ones - can be completely removed with topical application of [truly] raw honey. Of course, the deeper/larger the scar, the longer it will take. Has worked every time for people I have told about... Apply daily? Yep - change at least once per day - so, put it on in the morning (cover with appropriate size bandage, honey is messy), change in the evening before bed. For how long? Do you have any idea how long it would take to remove a 6 month old long scar? As with most things, it varies from person to person, but I'd say roughly anywhere from weeks, to maybe a few months. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Almost Cut Thumb Off
Ok, I need some group help here. I just started reading Becker's book Body Electric and today my boyfriend came home from work with 6 stitches and a pressure dressing on his thumb. He sliced his thumb the long way and although it is sewn back on, the doc said it might not take. The pressure dressing has to stay on 2 days but after that what can we do to facilitate the regrowth/healing? over 40 years old) The positive pole of a rare earth (or any other appropriately health-oriented magnet) would help facilitate growth tremendously. Yes, this is the pole that you want to avoid like the plague if you have cancer, and which you normally avoid for general health purposes, specifically because it accelerates tissue growth (which is bad bad for cancer)... but for things like this, it can be a miracle worker... The best you can do is keep it wet with CS continually. If you wait 2 days before applying, then expect scarring. Scars - even old, large, deep ones - can be completely removed with topical application of [truly] raw honey. Of course, the deeper/larger the scar, the longer it will take. Has worked every time for people I have told about... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: OT(Sorry!) Carpal tunnel
I have recently started a part time data entry job and I am concern about developing carpal tunnel. I am a knitter too, so sometimes I feel some twinges there already. Do any of you wise ones have any suggestions? TIA Lisa I learned this trick from an incidental yoga class I took once (was diuring a raw food program my Mom and I took)... Lay down on the floor on your stomach, and put your arms at your side, with your hands PALMS DOWN, UNDERNEATH (this is the most important part) your body/legs - ie, you're now lying on top of your hands, with your hands underneath your thighs, palms *down* flat on the floor. Lie like this for as long as you can hold it (I tried it, and it was a little uncomfortable, but not painful) - for a minimum of a few minutes, with 5-10 minutes the goal. Do this as often as you can. The more often - and the longer you hold it each session - the faster your hands will respond. I don't have carpal tunnel, so cannot personally vouch for its effectiveness, but there were 2 or 3 people in that class that said that this worked a miracle for them. One person, it worked after just a few sessions/days - the other it took a couple of weeks... I forget how often they did it... Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: pains on left side of head
The key to fight off the herpes virus ( chicken pox/shingles ), is ingesting a mixture of Lysine and Colloid silver. According to Saul, the herpes virus lives at the base of the spine, and the only way to completely rid the body of it permanently is to funnel ozone daily over the base of the spine for a few months... Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Old movie name
I am trying to find info re a movie that was made after WW2.It was about a Japanese prisoner of war camp where approx 5000 prisoners/Americans were held.They were taken prisoner when the Phillipines were invaded. Could it be this one? Although according to it, the number of prisoners was only 500, not 5000... http://www.reelingreviews.com/thegreatraid.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and cancer.
Could you please explain how drinking the juice of a lemon causes an alkaline reaction? I have heard this before, but it seems counter intuitive, seeing how lemons would most likely be acidic. Correction... Juice from RIPE lemons (and limes and grapefruit) will cause an alkaline reaction in the body. If the fruit is not ripe enough, its juice will most definitely cause an acidic reaction in the body. This is, in fact, why many people have problems with lemons and limes and other citrus fruits - becasue most are picked unripe. they do tend to ripen after picked, but this is not nearly idea as tree ripened. I do not know the nature of *why* ingesting an acidic juice (as tested with a ph tester) has an alkaline reaction in the body... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Raw Honey???? have a heart!
Just thirty minutes south of us on route 7 in the little town of Ferrisburg, Vt, is a relatively unknown treasure known as the Honey Gardens (www.honeygardens.com). To these people, making raw honey and honey related products is not just a business, it is a way of life.They have worked tirelessly to apply organic methods to bee keeping, and the results are the best tasting raw honey we have ever tasted, and a number of wonderful honey related products. Look around their website, it is full of great honey information. Very cool! Thanks for the link... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ?
Hi Wayne - Is he taking mega doses of vitC - like 10K 3X/day until he gets the runs, then back off a bit. It is much better to take less, more often... Say 1-2 Grams every hour, all day long... but obviously, this isn't nearly as convenient or easy. Taking larger amounts won't hurt anything, but according to some, a lot of it will be wasted (ie, just because you don't experience the runs doesn't mean your body is absorbing/utilizing all of it)... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Raw Honey???? have a heart!
Seeing only this title gave me a chill: Raw Honey??? No such thing as Raw Honey exists. Sure it does - just like raw milk vs. non-raw. Most processors heat their honey to 140+ degrees. This honey is not raw. Honey that is *not* heated beyond normal temperature ranges for the area in which it is produced *is* *raw*. Honey is Honey, Only true in the very limited, strict sense that honey that is cut with water/corn syrup is not truly 'honey' anymore. But this is very misleading, when the average person believes that 'Sue-Bee' honey they buy at Publix is 'honey'. and it is to be used straight from the bee, Yes, this is the desired form to use - but most honey sold today does not fit into this category. When we extracted honey from our bees (we used to have some 4 to 6 beehives, each good for some 40.000 of our little friends in prosperous times of rain and flowers) we would not even allow a drop of water to mix with our product -the honey-; in that case the broth would be considered of unworthey quality, which it is. Then you are to be commended... but your comments above ignore the reality that is the world today... So let us not talk of p u r e honey or r a w honey, it sounds a bit ignorant. Actually, your comments are what sound ignorant (no offense - I agree in a purely philosophical sense with everything you have said). processed honey does not have the right to be called honey anymore. Again, while technically true, this statement ignores reality. Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCatfish Fins, How Bad can they be ?
I healed a 15 cm diameter MRSA+ leg ulcer (dx was necrobiosis lipoidica diabeticorum) within 6 weeks using raw honey compresses. Truly raw honey is one of natures miracles... Purchase raw/unpasturized honey from a health food store, Honey can legally be heated to 160 degrees and still called/labeled 'raw'. There are only two commercially available brands (that I know of) that are guaranteed to be not heated at all... Really Raw and YS Organics These are the only two commercially available that you should buy. Locally produced is always best, as long as you know for a fact (and can confirm for yourself) that it is not heated. Heating destroys the enzymes, and it is the enzymes that provide the magic. Honey is Mother Nature's natural antibiotic. It is much more than that, but yes, it has powerful anti-biotic properties. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #233
See here for the truth about bleach: http://www.clorox.com/health_truth_about_bleach.php The truth about bleach? C'mon Charles. At Clorox's website? Are you serious? Yep... Just because they sell it, doesn't mean the information is bad. But I do understand your suspicions... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Raw Honey was- Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ?
Charles...When would you use Raw Honey as opposed to Bee Propolis? They work synergistically - I'd use them both in combination. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CS gel other burn remedies/Chlorine Bleach
WRONG. Please get your facts straight. I did NOT say 'chlorine bleach' I said CLOROX bleach. They are NOT the same thing - google is your friend... Pray tell, what is the difference. Chlorine bleach is sodium hypochlorite. I just checked my bottle of chlorox and guess what, it is also sodium hypochlorite. how can they be different? Ok - my apologies to Jodi and Dee for incorrectly correcting their comments about chlorine bleach... It has been a while since I had reviewed this info, and responded from memory, because I knew that what was being said about bleach was incorrect... What I should have corrected was the myth that pure chlorine bleach is 'bad', or in the same vein as 'chlorine'... See here for the truth about bleach: http://www.clorox.com/health_truth_about_bleach.php Of course, it goes without saying that pure bleach is not something to use carelessly... Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
