Re: CSRe: SomaLife gHP (from experience)

2008-01-18 Thread Cinder Ella
I agree with Duncan.  I and my boyfriend and many others I know have used this 
product and I noticed a changed in my sleep from night 2.  I've been sleeping 
like a baby ever since.  We've noticed a lot of changes and are all very happy 
with the product.  My boss could stop using drugs after 4 years when she had 
her car accident which left scar tissue in her neck and back.  She was in a lot 
of pain.  Only drawback, I don't care how pure etc it is, it's an MLM company 
and it is VERY expensive.  But it is a good product.  You won't be disappointed 
if you try it... hopefully you can find enough people to use it along 
with you so you can get an income from it so it won't cost you so much.  With 
shipping it comes to over $100 Cdn.
Doris


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From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:08:22 PM
Subject: CSRe: SomaLife gHP (from experience)

Dee (and all) -- 
From direct experience on myself, with my family, on
several friends, and about 90 clients, I know SomaLife
gHP works. It's grown back hair in the right color,
thickened thinning skin, corrected body mass,
well-being, energy recovery and libido, and even
rejuvenated some of the older girls enough so they
started menstruating again.

The basic clinical research is still on my site;
Gooogling somalife clinical references turns up my
page as #1, and scrolling down the page to the Isidori
study turns up the actual indisputable clinical data
on amino acids increasing HGH and IGF-1.

What's wrong with the picture that the opponents paint
is that using impure amino acids and/or incorrect
dosing or ratio doesn't work very well. These 3
factors when present result in 95% success, and that's
what we're seeing.

Amino acids are preferentially absorbed, they compete
with each other, so you can see the need for purity; 
the dosage and ratio are absolutely needed to promote
HGH release at the low dose SomaLife provides.
Otherwise you need a very high dose.

Try dissolving SomaLife gHP in water; nothing happens!
Then try any other amino acid cocktail and the water
turns brown. These are partially digested meat
proteins that ruin the experiment. Many merchants try
to cover this up by adding other junk or vitamins that
color the water anyway. Remember, the pure stuff does
not dissolve, and that acidity is required to dissolve
it.

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Re: CSThe Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?

2007-12-20 Thread Cinder Ella
I am really furious at Global news here in Toronto.  They reported about 30 
seconds on this story.  All they said was the guy from California was blue from 
drinking colloidal silver.  Just enough information to make everyone believe CS 
is a problem and keep the masses in line and terrify them enough from trying 
it.  That makes my blood boil.  It is irresponsible and unconscionable to 
report things like that without giving the public all the facts. wait a 
minute. that's commonly what news is isn't it?  Give the people what 
you want them to hear and know and sway public opinion by brainwashing?  
Hm.  Maybe someone paid them to do that?
D
 
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 Whoa, this is really blue...
 
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Re: CSThe Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?

2007-12-20 Thread Cinder Ella
Notice he isn't stopping?  He said he will continue to drink it?  Hmmm sounds 
like a disillusioned and angry man.. NOT
D

When you watch the clip carefully, the generator looks like the SOTA Silver 
Pulser?  How long have they been around?  Have we heard of any problems with 
them? I still think it must be the water or the salt or other.  If not, with 
the 100's of thousands using CS statistically we would have MANY more Poppa 
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Re: CS'Health Canada strikes

2007-10-14 Thread Cinder Ella
Come to Toronto, they are mainstream in any major drug store now.
D


I have bought silver band aids made by Curad, though they're not that easy to 
find.

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 We do too, but I was wondering what other big name pharma was selling them
 
 
 Deborah Gerard wrote:
 
 Our dollar stores here in Michigan sell band-aids that have silver in 
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Re: CS'Health Canada strikes

2007-10-14 Thread Cinder Ella
You see there's the other catch.  We will be allowed to have the privilege of 
silver in our every day lives, .. but only if we can AFFORD it!  Who 
the   h  e   double hockey sticks   can afford $205 for a bunch of 4x4 gauze 
bandages?  What nutcase would even shell out that money?  I could spray my 
wound with silver water and stick a telfa non stick pad on my wound for pennies 
a pad!  That's outrageous.  Next the companies will take back their silver pads 
claiming the public didn't want them and silver didn't work so they had to take 
them off the shelves!  Of course nobody wanted them... nobody could afford 
them!  I'm sorry but that price is ridiculous!  I hope that wasn't one pad.  I 
hope that was a box of them of at least 400.
D


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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:17:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS'Health Canada strikes

Hi all,

I work in a Canadian pharmacy and just yesteray I saw a product come in. 
It was a silver bandage pad.  It was about 4''X4 and it would retail at 
$205.00.  It was an a med supply company that made them , but I did not 
catch who it was that made them or the trade name of it.  Started with 
an A.  I will try and find the name tomorrow when I am at work.

G Murray


Cinder Ella wrote:

 Funny, I am a Canadian and I just went last weekend to the Fall Home 
 Show.  In it there were at least 2 booths advertising silver 
 products.  One was an attachment for your washing machine that would 
 eliminate soap.  The water went through it before going into the 
 washer and would put silver ions in the wash water.  Also there was a 
 woman there who was with a company who sold silver this silver that 
 bla bla bla.  Everthing except silver water.  She had dust mittens 
 impregnated with silver threads and magnetic laundry balls and all 
 kinds of neat stuff.  I think this is the government's way of scaring 
 people.  Sad.

 D




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Re: CS'Health Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread Cinder Ella
Funny, I am a Canadian and I just went last weekend to the Fall Home Show.  In 
it there were at least 2 booths advertising silver products.  One was an 
attachment for your washing machine that would eliminate soap.  The water went 
through it before going into the washer and would put silver ions in the wash 
water.  Also there was a woman there who was with a company who sold silver 
this silver that bla bla bla.  Everthing except silver water.  She had dust 
mittens impregnated with silver threads and magnetic laundry balls and all 
kinds of neat stuff.  I think this is the government's way of scaring people.  
Sad.
D



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From: Scott scottie592...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:24:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS'Health Canada strikes

We knew it was going to happen somewhere but I am surprised that Canada struck 
first. The US EPA, apparently, is still investigating CS use in appliances, 
clothing, etc. So, I imagine the US FDA isn't too far behind Health Canada. Go 
figure, since CS has proven to be successful in everything we've claimed it to 
be. You think the desire for money and control are the motivators here? I still 
haven't seen but a couple of claims of argyria and that was due to poor 
physician prescribing and personal use of CS cousins - silver nitrate, silver 
salts, proteins, etc. Anyhow, thanks for the heads up.

Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:
See:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/2007/2007_115_e.html

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Re: CSquestion on cs and an ear problem

2007-10-10 Thread Cinder Ella
I get them too.  I paint them with iodine and in 1-3 days it's gone.
D



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From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:00:45 AM
Subject: CSquestion on cs and an ear problem


I somehow have managed to get a large pimple or boil inside my ear.  I felt it 
coming on and used cs (5ppm)twice a day but it got larger anyway.  My ear is 
almost swollen shut and swollen out around it.  I decided maybe the cs wasn't 
getting to where it needed to and yesterday started with a mixture of cs with a 
small amount of DMSO in it, a mixture that I normally used on sore joints.  A 
little of the swelling is down but it still hurts pretty bad and I don't hear 
out of the ear.  Does anyone have any suggestions.  If I go to the doctor they 
are just going to want to give me antibiotics and they tear my system up but 
may have to go that way if I don't get relief soon.  
 
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Re: CSHydroponics and CS, Growing Methods

2007-09-29 Thread Cinder Ella
They don't actually tell you what's in those magic pills.  It just says at 
the beginning to use the green package of starter nutrients.  Two weeks later 
you use the blue package of  sprouting nutrients and then come the growing 
nutrients.  The company is at www.aerogarden.com  and so far my plants are 
sprouting and growing well.  The company has a 1800 number but Im sure they 
won't tell you what's in their magic pills otherwise you won't have to buy 
from them.  They have different nutrients for different stuff that you grow.  
You can't grow herbs and lettuce or herbs and cherry tomatoes in the same batch 
of water because they each need different nutrients apparently or different pH 
etc...  phosphorous, nitrogen etc.  I'm sure a local hydroponics store here in 
Toronto could tell me what to put in there and might be cheaper than what they 
sell but for now I'll go the approved way.  If you find anything out, let me 
know.
D
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From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net
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Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:35:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSHydroponics and CS, Growing Methods


Evening Cinder Ella,

 At 11:29 AM 9/28/2007, you wrote:
Yes, I am actually growing true hydroponics.  Just water and mineral 
tablets (or whatever those pills are).

   Can you post the name and maybe a link to those magic pills.
I would like to study them a bit.

Wayne

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Re: CSHydroponics and CS, Growing Methods

2007-09-28 Thread Cinder Ella
Yes, I am actually growing true hydroponics.  Just water and mineral tablets 
(or whatever those pills are).  So far they are all sprouting and doing well 
but I'm going to experiment with my bean sprouts and mung beans because you 
have to rinse them every day.  Will see what happens there.  I already put an 
ounce of CS in the water and guess i won't add any more.  Just spring water.  
I'll take your advice and only experiment with my sprouts.  Thanks for the info 
all and esp. Wayne.
D
PS:  I wonder what would happen if I just added Concentrace to the water?  
Hmmm?

From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net

Evening Cinder Ella,

 At 05:13 PM 9/27/2007, you wrote:
   You may get a number of answers.  My reply is mostly warnings and cautions.

Has anyone had experience with hydroponics and CS?

   No, not really.  My growing is not true Hydroponics.
True Hydroponics means the roots reside in liquid, no other media.
Likely you knew that.

  I am growing an herb garden with the AeroGarden and they have all kinds 
 of safeguards so the water doesn't grow algae.

If you are using approved methods, you best continue to do that.

  I called them up and asked them why I have to keep the paper over the 
 plants base and they said if the water gets too much light it grows algae.

Yes, it will, even inside a plastic barrel.  And it gets out of control 
fast, and will clog up pumps, smaller passage ways, and be a disaster.

kind of effect that would have on the plants.
She was concerned about the wrong thing.  The problem is with the 
water, not the plants.  Plants are very intelligent in their feeding.
Often I think more so than humans.

I can pass nutrients over the roots all day, and they take what they need 
and let the rest go by.  Often taking up zero nutrients, and using only 
water.  That is amazing.  That has been proven, not guess work.

One of my friends has been head of a research center, head of Horticulture 
at a college, traveled the world teaching people to grow, and here is what 
he calls TRUE Hydroponics.

   The Sudden Death Method.

Guess what ?  If one plant becomes diseased, they all become 
diseased.  This year, in the soil, I had one tomato plant show sighs of 
disease.  I immediately removed it.  No more became diseased.

There is little forgiveness in Hydroponics.

Yes, there are good bacteria in water.  Some think the good control the 
bad, much like in the human body,

There may be others but this is three,
  bacillus, mycorrhizae and trichoderma.   These are good ones and used to 
control fungi, and other diseases.  Kill them with CS or anything else, and 
you are in  a world of trouble,
You may in fact need to add them.  Since many growers do that, you must be 
able to buy them someplace.

If you want to experiment, use one plant in a container, one with distilled 
water, one with healthy water, and one with CS water.
But.. do not experiment with your total plot.

If you can use CS, how much is ok? before it messes with the minerals in 
the water and isn't good for the plants anymore?

 Not exactly a valid question... use ZERO.
Likely you could use a small amount, but if you kill the good stuff, the 
bad may take over.

I think that if it was going to mess with the minerals, it would be in a 
very short time.

You could remove a small amount of your water to a container and add some 
CS to observe the effect on the algae.

Do not shortcut any proven methods to reduce algae.

Actually, if you are not an experience grower, I think hydro is a bad way 
to start, unless you want a challenge instead of food to eat.

My method is simpler, but complex enough, and proven by thousands of 
commercial growers and colleges.

How do you think I learned how to do it ?  grin

Wayne




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CSHydroponics and CS

2007-09-27 Thread Cinder Ella
Has anyone had experience with hydroponics and CS?  I am growing an herb garden 
with the AeroGarden and they have all kinds of safeguards so the water doesn't 
grow algae.  I called them up and asked them why I have to keep the paper over 
the plants base and they said if the water gets too much light it grows algae.  
I asked her why you can't simply put silver in the water.  She kind of giggled 
and said she didn't know what kind of effect that would have on the plants.  

If you can use CS, how much is ok? before it messes with the minerals in the 
water and isn't good for the plants anymore?
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Re: CSHydroponics and CS

2007-09-27 Thread Cinder Ella
I'm using spring water and put an ounce of CS in the water.  I guess it's 
around 1/4 a gallon or a little over a liter of water.  You add a couple of 
tablets to the water that the plants use as nutrients but I don't know how 
these nutrients and the spring water will mix with all the CS?  Guess I'll have 
to be my own guinea pig?  Perhaps these plants will pick the silver up and I'll 
have a super plant or it will kill it?  Let's see.
D

From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com


I guess you could do an experiment.

I was reading somewhere that too much silver in public waters might be 
a concern if they kill off the beneficial bacteria that roots need for 
getting food.  OTOH, I also read that someone was putting it on their 
plants? maybe- more info needed

On Sep 27, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Cinder Ella wrote:

 Has anyone had experience with hydroponics and CS?  I am growing an 
 herb garden with the AeroGarden and they have all kinds of safeguards 
 so the water doesn't grow algae.  I called them up and asked them why 
 I have to keep the paper over the plants base and they said if the 
 water gets too much light it grows algae.  I asked her why you can't 
 simply put silver in the water.  She kind of giggled and said she 
 didn't know what kind of effect that would have on the plants. 
  
 If you can use CS, how much is ok? before it messes with the minerals 
 in the water and isn't good for the plants anymore?
 D

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Re: CSDMSO Herpies

2007-09-13 Thread Cinder Ella
Very interesting, how do you know when Herpes/Shingles etc has broken out 
inside the body? What are the signs and symptoms of that?


 I even seen one case where 
 it was broke out inside the body..very hard to stop inside the body, 
 but CS will help.
 

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Fw: CSCarbon Bound Organic Silver

2007-07-05 Thread Cinder Ella
You mean with all the bright minds on this forum.. 
nobody has anything to say about this carbon bound organic silver and zeolite?  
 Amazing.  I mean it is a post actually about SILVER.  Unlike the hundreds of 
posts every week I get from this group which ARENT even related to silver.  
Not that they aren't worthwhile but. it is getting a bit much.


- Forwarded Message 
From: Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca
To: Colloidal Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 2:42:06 PM
Subject: CSCarbon Bound Organic Silver


I'd like to know if anyone on this list has ever heard of a product called 
Intra Max from Drucker Labs.  http://www.druckerlabs.com/intramax.html   They 
say they have carbon bound organic silver and zeolites in the product.  I sent 
away for their information kit for health care practitioners and in great 
detail this is what they explain, and that colloids of any kind should be 
avoided because the molecules are larger than their silver.  It looks like an 
amazing product with over 415 ingredients in it all certified organic etc and 
I'm going to try it but just wondering if anyone has already checked it out and 
what results you have.
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Re: Fw: CSCarbon Bound Organic Silver

2007-07-05 Thread Cinder Ella
Chuck ... thank you from the bottom of my heart for your. 
sentiments.  Thanks to you and others like you I think I will take your kind 
offer to leave the group and will make my wishes known to Mike ASAP through the 
proper channel.  Thank you to all the other intelligent people on this forum 
who have enriched my life and who have helped and added to my knowledge and my 
life.  It's been a pleasure and this group has really been one of the most 
informative, intelligent and well run groups but unfortunately I can no longer 
deal with the annoying trash talk.  Stick me with a fork .. I'm done!
Doris


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From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com



 Not that they aren't worthwhile but. it is getting a bit much.
The door is always open... 

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CSCarbon Bound Organic Silver

2007-07-02 Thread Cinder Ella
I'd like to know if anyone on this list has ever heard of a product called 
Intra Max from Drucker Labs.  http://www.druckerlabs.com/intramax.html   They 
say they have carbon bound organic silver and zeolites in the product.  I sent 
away for their information kit for health care practitioners and in great 
detail this is what they explain, and that colloids of any kind should be 
avoided because the molecules are larger than their silver.  It looks like an 
amazing product with over 415 ingredients in it all certified organic etc and 
I'm going to try it but just wondering if anyone has already checked it out and 
what results you have.
Doris


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Re: CSHistory of Ailments

2007-07-02 Thread Cinder Ella
I have a frequency generator and several zappers.  Am happy with all of them.
Doris


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Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 9:15:35 PM
Subject: Re: CSHistory of Ailments


HI all,

I would like to know does anyone on this list have or has ever used the Rife 
Frequency Machine?

Mary


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Re: CSHistory of Ailments

2007-07-02 Thread Cinder Ella
Mine looks exactly like the SFG 2004 at www.instek.com 


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From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
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Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 3:01:25 PM
Subject: Re: CSHistory of Ailments


which frequency generator do you use??
MARY

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From: Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca

 I have a frequency generator and several zappers.  Am happy with all of them.
 Doris
 
 
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 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 9:15:35 PM
 Subject: Re: CSHistory of Ailments
 
 
 HI all,
 
 I would like to know does anyone on this list have or has ever used the Rife 
 Frequency Machine?
 
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CSAlpha Omega Labs:Rising Sun Health

2007-06-20 Thread Cinder Ella
This is for all those who had a question about Alpha Omega Labs.  I emailed 
them and this was the answer I got.  If you go on the link he has provided you 
will see that this Rising Sun Health place is a scam.  They do not recommend it 
at all.  Read all that is on that link and you will know why.
Doris

Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 18:37:37 -0600
To: mcomfy...@hotmail.com
From: ja...@altcancer.com
Subject: Re: Alpha Omega Labs: Email

Hi...

At 06:52 PM 12/28/2006, you wrote:

Your product sounds very good.  I would really like to try it but you say you 
are not selling it anymore.  I live in Toronto, Ontario.  Can you recommend 
another company that makes something like yours?   Is there any other way I can 
get this product?  How long will you be out of commission?
 
We hope to be fully operational by fall.
The answers to your questions (and then some)
is contained in our latest update:
http://www.altcancer.com/update_12_06.htm

Jayde Williams
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Re: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution

2007-06-10 Thread Cinder Ella
The website is www.escience.ca  but you won't find it on the web.  You have to 
call them personally and special order it and may have to leave a deposit 
because it's a special order.  The phone number is 416-787-4581   and fax is 
416-787-5140.  Sorry I don't know what their email address is.  Perhaps they 
have it on the website?
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2007 3:14:38 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution

Doris could you send me the e-mail addy for this? thanks in advance debbie

Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
I bought my Lugol's here in Toronto at Efston Science for about $68 Canadian 
for a liter.  That works out to about $2.06 for 30 ml.  They get it from 
Fischer Scientific.  I am not able to get it from Fischer because I don't have 
a hazardous Goods licence!  Imagine that!  They don't sell chemicals directly 
to the public so I have to go through them.  They have a website too you can 
get it through them I believe.
 
I have sold it at cost to my co workers and friends and give some to my 
parents.  I use it for topical cuts and take a drop every day as does my 
boyfriend.  I use it also for cleaning my vegetables.  I fill a pot with water 
and put iodine in before soaking raw vegetables.  It helps clean off the 
pesticides and according to Hulda Clark it also kills the eggs of bugs on the 
vegetables you can't wash off.  I'm sure it cleans other stuff off too.  I just 
let it soak for 15 minutes and then rinse.  Then I spray my veggies with silver 
water before storing in the refrigerator and they keep longer.  It doesn't take 
long to use a liter of Lugol's that way.
Doris
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Re: CSDrug Resistant TB

2007-06-10 Thread Cinder Ella
I'd like to secretly get into the city's water supply and lace it with CS.  
That would be amazing.  I'd like to go to the hospitals and dish out CS water 
to the patients and see how their infections clear up.  There are many things I 
wish I could do.  Maybe if I blink my eyes like Jeannie and bob my head up and 
down?. Shucks it didn't work.  Back to the drawing board!
Doris :0)

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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:32:36 PM
Subject: CSDrug Resistant TB


Wouldn't you just give anything to get ahold of that man with extremely drug 
resistant TB and have him nebulize colloidal silver?  After all the antibiotics 
have failed, I would love to see what silver can do.


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Re: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution

2007-06-10 Thread Cinder Ella
I don't know what iodine tincture contains that is sold in the store.  You 
would have to read the ingredients.  Lugol's Iodine contains Potassium Iodide 
and Iodine and distilled water and it is apparently the Potassium Iodide in it 
that helps make it more highly absorbable.  Also when you buy iodine in the 
store, like hydrogen peroxide that isn't meant to be taken internally (unless 
you buy the 35% food grade to be diluted) perhaps there is something in there 
that is not meant to be taken internally and it might have other stuff in it?  
If it is for cuts and stuff like that, like the Betaine they use to cleanse 
wounds, I wouldn't be drinking that.  
So bottom line you have to read labels and know what they mean.  Then make sure 
there are no stabilizers and all kinds of things in there.
Doris




What makes lugol's Iodine better than regulur iodine tincture in the drug store?
Debb Bos 
S.Surrey BC Canada
The website is www.escience.ca  but you won't find it on the web.  You have to 
call them personally and special order it and may have to leave a deposit 
because it's a special order.  The phone number is 416-787-4581   and fax is 
416-787-5140.  Sorry I don't know what their email address is.  Perhaps they 
have it on the website?
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Re: Re[2]: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution

2007-06-09 Thread Cinder Ella
You might have to phone them up.  I went into the store and inquired.  It's not 
something they carry in large quantities like that on the shelf.  I had to 
special order it and I had to buy a liter to get that price.  They wouldn't 
even order it under that amount.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: zoe w ilovegra...@yahoo.co.uk
To: Cinder Ella silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 11:29:22 PM
Subject: Re[2]: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution


Unfortunately they do not have a listing for either Lugol's or Iodine,  if they 
once did,  its gone now.  The
same is happening to almost all our former suppliers.


zoe






I bought my Lugol's here in Toronto at Efston Science for about $68 Canadian 
for a liter.  That works out to about $2.06 for 30 ml.  They get it from 
Fischer Scientific.  I am not able to get it from Fischer because I don't have 
a hazardous Goods licence!  Imagine that!  They don't sell chemicals directly 
to the public so I have to go through them.  They have a website too you can 
get it through them I believe.
 
I have sold it at cost to my co workers and friends and give some to my 
parents.  I use it for topical cuts and take a drop every day as does my 
boyfriend.  I use it also for cleaning my vegetables.  I fill a pot with water 
and put iodine in before soaking raw vegetables.  It helps clean off the 
pesticides and according to Hulda Clark it also kills the eggs of bugs on the 
vegetables you can't wash off.  I'm sure it cleans other stuff off too.  I just 
let it soak for 15 minutes and then rinse.  Then I spray my veggies with silver 
water before storing in the refrigerator and they keep longer.  It doesn't take 
long to use a liter of Lugol's that way.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 7:41:41 PM
Subject: RE: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution



You can get Lugol’s from Hulda Clark’s people in Toronto:
 
5%60ml/2oz - $11.00 canadian
 
5% 180ml/4 oz in glass bottle, no eyedropper 14.25 canadian
 
so I guess if you multiplied that out, it would be way more than $50/32 
oz  
 
and I thought it was cheap at $14.25!! LOL  phew.
 
Just curious…. However would you use such a huge amount?? My 4 oz has lasted 
years!
 
Wendy
 
 
-Original Message-
From: zoe w [mailto:ilovegra...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: June 8, 2007 7:18 PM
To: Tel Tofflemire
Subject: Re: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution
 
 
Holy Cow,   that is the most expensive I've ever seen it! JCrows was bad 
enough at 50$/32 oz
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution

2007-06-08 Thread Cinder Ella
I bought my Lugol's here in Toronto at Efston Science for about $68 Canadian 
for a liter.  That works out to about $2.06 for 30 ml.  They get it from 
Fischer Scientific.  I am not able to get it from Fischer because I don't have 
a hazardous Goods licence!  Imagine that!  They don't sell chemicals directly 
to the public so I have to go through them.  They have a website too you can 
get it through them I believe.

I have sold it at cost to my co workers and friends and give some to my 
parents.  I use it for topical cuts and take a drop every day as does my 
boyfriend.  I use it also for cleaning my vegetables.  I fill a pot with water 
and put iodine in before soaking raw vegetables.  It helps clean off the 
pesticides and according to Hulda Clark it also kills the eggs of bugs on the 
vegetables you can't wash off.  I'm sure it cleans other stuff off too.  I just 
let it soak for 15 minutes and then rinse.  Then I spray my veggies with silver 
water before storing in the refrigerator and they keep longer.  It doesn't take 
long to use a liter of Lugol's that way.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 7:41:41 PM
Subject: RE: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution


You can get Lugol’s from Hulda Clark’s people in Toronto:
 
5%60ml/2oz - $11.00 canadian
 
5% 180ml/4 oz in glass bottle, no eyedropper 14.25 canadian
 
so I guess if you multiplied that out, it would be way more than $50/32 
oz  
 
and I thought it was cheap at $14.25!! LOL  phew.
 
Just curious…. However would you use such a huge amount?? My 4 oz has lasted 
years!
 
Wendy
 
 
-Original Message-
From: zoe w [mailto:ilovegra...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: June 8, 2007 7:18 PM
To: Tel Tofflemire
Subject: Re: CSRe: CS Lugol's Iodine Solution
 
 
Holy Cow,   that is the most expensive I've ever seen it! JCrows was bad 
enough at 50$/32 oz
 
 
 
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Re: CSACL

2007-06-05 Thread Cinder Ella
A couple of friends of mine have been in this situation and they used a new 
type of laser.  Check out the web www.bioflexlaser.com   This saved both of 
them from surgery.  It is a franchise available throughout Canada and the US.
Doris



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surgery for  an anterior cruciate ligament problem.  I cannot seem to find any  
cure except to go under the knife, doing a web search.
TJ
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Re: CSRe: herpes virus

2007-06-05 Thread Cinder Ella
This happens to my mom too.  I can't eat peanuts because they are considered 
moldy just like caneloupes.  When I eat them and mold gets into my system other 
things happen to me, starting with my digestion being messed up.
Doris


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2007 10:48:18 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: herpes virus


David Bearrow wrote:
 I have a similar report as Marshal. I had cold sores that popped up in 
 the same place on my lip every month (I could make em pop up by eating 
 almonds also) 

Yes, almonds and peanuts would cause mine to pop out, especially if I 
got a bad peanut.  Well about 3 weeks ago I was eating at Texas 
Roadhouse, and they have all the peanuts you can eat before your meal.  
I ate a bunch, way too many. I don't know if I got some bad ones, or 
just ate too many of them, but they definitely made me sick that night.  
No cold sore though, none at all. I also eat lots of almonds at times, 
once again, no more cold sores.

Marshall


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CSAlmost Cut Thumb Off

2007-06-05 Thread Cinder Ella
Ok, I need some group help here.  I just started reading Becker's book Body 
Electric and today my boyfriend came home from work with 6 stitches and a 
pressure dressing on his thumb.  He sliced his thumb the long way and although 
it is sewn back on, the doc said it might not take.  The pressure dressing has 
to stay on 2 days but after that what can we do to facilitate the 
regrowth/healing? over 40 years old)

He also gave him a prescription for antibiotics which I told him to forget 
about.  We would use silver water internally and externally to bath.  

Any suggestions from the group?
Doris


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Re: CSAlmost Cut Thumb Off

2007-06-05 Thread Cinder Ella
Thanks everyone.  I knew you would all come through for me.  I don't have a 
Beck thingie but I do have a frequency generator.  Does anyone have any 
suggestions on any frequencies?  I haven't finished the Becker book yet.  I'm 
sure there is a way to stimulate the regrowth or reattachment with frequencies 
only I don't know the numbers.  Any suggestions?
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 5:33:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSAlmost Cut Thumb Off


Cinder Ella wrote:
 Ok, I need some group help here.  I just started reading Becker's book 
 Body Electric and today my boyfriend came home from work with 6 
 stitches and a pressure dressing on his thumb.  He sliced his thumb 
 the long way and although it is sewn back on, the doc said it might 
 not take.  The pressure dressing has to stay on 2 days but after that 
 what can we do to facilitate the regrowth/healing? over 40 years old)
  
 He also gave him a prescription for antibiotics which I told him to 
 forget about.  We would use silver water internally and externally to 
 bath. 
  
 Any suggestions from the group?
 Doris

 
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The best you can do is keep it wet with CS continually. If you wait 2 
days before applying, then expect scarring. If you can do it from day 
one, he may be able to get away with no scarring at all. I cut the end 
off my thumb, and with CS it not only grew back, but so did the fingerprint.

Marshall


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CSEstheticians and Healthworkers

2007-05-10 Thread Cinder Ella
Anyone who is out there who is a healthcare worker or an esthetician, has 
anyone been using CS/EIS for sterilizing their manicure pedicure instruments? 
 Would this work?  Considering it is anti bacterial/fungal/viral?  Has anyone 
done any experimentation on facials and CS/EIS?  Has anyone ever done any 
empirical testing on instruments after cleansing with CS/EIS?
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Re: CSpet food

2007-05-07 Thread Cinder Ella
Wow, I haven't had a dog in years but I remember that dogs are almost as bad as 
pigs.  They have endless pits for a stomach and will eat anything they can find 
any time anywhere.   Whoever wrote that article on that website couldn't have 
ever owned a DOG!  LoL
Doris


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CSFw: dangerous ingredients in medicines exposed - China

2007-05-06 Thread Cinder Ella
The NY times has a report this morning about China exporting diethylene glycol 
marked as 99.5% glycerine: 
http://www.nytimes. com/2007/ 05/06/world/ americas/ 06poison. 
html?hp=pagewanted=all 
or http://www.iht. com/articles/ 2007/05/05/ news/06poison. php

The glycerine is mixed into cough syrups and other liquid pharmaceuticals, 
and when ingested ... 

The kidneys fail first. Then the central nervous system begins to misfire. 
Paralysis spreads, making breathing difficult, then often impossible without 
assistance. In the end, most victims die. 

This substitution has been made as early as the 1930s, when poisonings from 
diethylene glycol prompted the formation of the FDA.  More recently, mass 
poisonings with fatalities in the hundreds to many thousands have resulted in 
China, Panama, Bangladesh, India, Haiti, Argentina, and Nigeria.  Nobody has 
been prosecuted because the manufacturers are not licensed to sell pharma-grade 
product, and do not claim that the product is pharma-grade ... only 99.5% pure. 
Thus, no laws have been broken.

This is one of the scariest, unbelievable pieces I've come across in a long 
time. And not to be complacent, the diethylene glycol came very close to making 
it into U.S. product. 

You owe it to yourself to read this entire article, if you want to be informed 
of the utter ineptitude, ignorance, and deception at all levels of marketing 
and regulation - starting from a small production shop in China, all the way to 
the FDA and agencies in other countries. And what is so disturbing, is that 
nobody seems to be able to put a stop to these practices.
 
A few days ago, a question to a person from an herb  supplement company about 
vitamins, revealed that a very large proportion of vitamins are now 
manufactured in China.  It seems prudent for everyone's safety, to make careful 
enquiries about the source of products being purchased, and the source of 
materials in that product.  Start letting every supplier of goods know that you 
are concerned.
 
An ordinary bottle of over-the-counter cough syrup could kill you.  What if you 
had been traveling in Panama last year and needed some?  And the cough syrup 
was manufactured by the Panamanian government, not knowing the supposed 
glycerin going into it was actually diethylene glycol, and totally unaware 
where the stuff really came from!!
 
Unbelievable.  Scary.  Please inform your other health groups.
 
Char
 


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Re: CSMelamine

2007-05-02 Thread Cinder Ella
Dear Mary and others:
Just because a kid uses a Magic Eraser on his face like an eraser thinking it 
will remove crayon and hurts himself, doesn't mean this product is evil and 
toxic.  First of all I have used this product for a very long time and it has 
been a lifesaver.  It took iodine off my counter.  It will remove crayon from 
WALLS safely and parents shouldn't allow their children to use or eat or do 
ANYTHING with magic erasers because they are not children's toys.  Let's not 
throw the baby out with the bathwater here.  I use it without soap to wash my 
van and it does an excellent job.  It removes scuff marks as well and many 
other things.

If you would care to do some real deep research on Melamine foam you would find 
out that the reason it gave this child the burns is because of the way this 
foam is structured.  That's why it is so effective but you're not supposed to 
use it on the skin!  Parents should read the labels.  It cleans right into the 
pores and the child got a type of rug burn  Blame the parent not the product. 
 The product works and does an excellent job.  This reminds me of years ago 
when firecrackers were BANNED in Ontario because some idiotic parents allowed 
or did not supervise their young, careless children on firecracker day and they 
blew up their faces and hands because they abused them.  Now even responsible 
adults cannot purchase them here in Canada because of one careless, thoughtless 
idiot.  Please let's not go there with this.

I hope also that I don't get 50 angry responses to this growling and misreading 
this email complaining bla bla bla.  I'm really getting sick of it.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2007 5:11:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSMelamine


Thank you for your reply,
I guess it is the same thing, I read on another site that little kids think it 
is an eraser, when they get crayon on their faces they rub it off with this 
product but the product is causing 3rd degree burns and it spreads.
I guess I will never use that.  I knew it was too good to be true!Non 
Toxic, yeah right!!!
Thanks again for the information
Mary

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 Mary said,
  I am a non toxic house cleaner everyone tells me to
 use Mr. clean magic erasers, for a long time I could
 not find what it is made from. Well I found it--
 melamine foam.
 Is this the same melamine found in the pet foods that
 are killing our pets 
 
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Re: CSMelamine

2007-05-02 Thread Cinder Ella
Try writing to the company whos label states it's in their product and ask them 
that question.  See what answer they give you.



- Original Message 
From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2007 7:47:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSMelamine


Point is, is this the same stuff that pets are dying of, is it not
I only care if this product is NON TOXIC.

There are hundreds of chemicals out there that will do a fantastic job on 
everything but they are toxic.  I have actually lost customers for I would not 
use any toxic chemicals.

Again the question was, is this the same stuff that is killing pets, or not!!!

-- Original message --
From: Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca

 Dear Mary and others:
 Just because a kid uses a Magic Eraser on his face like an eraser thinking it 
 will remove crayon and hurts himself, doesn't mean this product is evil and 
 toxic.  First of all I have used this product for a very long time and it has 
 been a lifesaver.  It took iodine off my counter.  It will remove crayon from 
 WALLS safely and parents shouldn't allow their children to use or eat or do 
 ANYTHING with magic erasers because they are not children's toys.  Let's not 
 throw the baby out with the bathwater here.  I use it without soap to wash my 
 van and it does an excellent job.  It removes scuff marks as well and many 
 other 
 things.
 
 If you would care to do some real deep research on Melamine foam you would 
 find 
 out that the reason it gave this child the burns is because of the way this 
 foam is structured.  That's why it is so effective but you're not supposed to 
 use it on the skin!  Parents should read the labels.  It cleans right into 
 the 
 pores and the child got a type of rug burn  Blame the parent not the 
 product.  
 The product works and does an excellent job.  This reminds me of years ago 
 when 
 firecrackers were BANNED in Ontario because some idiotic parents allowed or 
 did 
 not supervise their young, careless children on firecracker day and they blew 
 up 
 their faces and hands because they abused them.  Now even responsible adults 
 cannot purchase them here in Canada because of one careless, thoughtless 
 idiot.  
 Please let's not go there with this.
 
 I hope also that I don't get 50 angry responses to this growling and 
 misreading 
 this email complaining bla bla bla.  I'm really getting sick of it.
 Doris
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2007 5:11:18 PM
 Subject: Re: CSMelamine
 
 
 Thank you for your reply,
 I guess it is the same thing, I read on another site that little kids think 
 it 
 is an eraser, when they get crayon on their faces they rub it off with this 
 product but the product is causing 3rd degree burns and it spreads.
 I guess I will never use that.  I knew it was too good to be true!Non 
 Toxic, 
 yeah right!!!
 Thanks again for the information
 Mary
 
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  Is this the same melamine found in the pet foods that
  are killing our pets 
  
  See:
  
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Re: CSrun down from being a vegetarian

2007-04-30 Thread Cinder Ella
I take supplements every day but then I took supplements when I was eating meat 
too.  We all need supplements because this world is becoming so messed up and 
we as humans are being more stressed.
Doris


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Subject: CSrun down from being a vegetarian


Just wondering if you were taking vitamin b-12? the raw food folks found that 
their followers were having problems and they discovered it was from a b-12 
deficiency from lack of meat in their diet so now, they advocate taking a 
supplement. I think it is best to take this with b-6 and folic acid.
There was mention of an amino acid sleep aid. I was taking a natural sleep 
aid and it had hops and valarian in it. I am not sure but I think that one of 
these ingredients really aggravated my candida as I noticed an increase when 
using it. I also woke up very groggy.


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Re: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-29 Thread Cinder Ella
If you're worried about cancer and overall health, drink Pau D'Arco tea.  It 
was published on this website already but www.herb-care.com/paudarco   Sounds 
like awesome stuff to me.  I bought some a few months ago with my liver cleanse 
and it's been sitting in a jar.  Who knew?  Guess I'll try some.
Doris



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Re: CSDairy cows

2007-04-29 Thread Cinder Ella
I used to work in a lot of the major hotels in Toronto and in the staff 
cafeteria were two big blue bins.  It was for leftover food from your plate and 
food that no one wanted.  On a regular basis it was picked up and I asked where 
the food went to since it was obviously garbage.  I was told by the hotel 
staff that it was recycled into feed for animals.  A company comes and picks 
it up and they mulch it all together and recycle it to put into, for example, 
cattle feed.  He didn't get into all the details but that means that chicken, 
pork, fish, white bread, gravy, spices, lamb and whatever unedible edibles went 
into it were given to other animals for feed and that's just disgusting because 
I  don't advocate eating pork since learning about Rife and knowing what the 
heck those animals are harboring in terms of parasites.  Now my cows and 
chickens have the same parasites as the pork I refuse to eat.  So guess what?  
I am now a vegetarian and don't even eat fish anymore. 
 A cow won't go into the pasture and attack a pig or a chicken to eat.  Why do 
we insist on fooling them to do otherwise?  We are a sick warped society if you 
ask me and it's going to come back to nip us in the bud.

On the contrary, my father lives across the road from a cattle and a dairy 
farmer.  I don't personally know what they are fed but I can tell you he feeds 
them hay because I see it in the field piled up and when they go away, my dad 
takes over and feeds them and they run free all day in the many boundless acres 
of green grass and sunshine.  I highly doubt they feed them anything else from 
hotel blue bins but this is only one farm in Canada.  Perhaps high volume farms 
are different.  But here's the conundrum .. how do you know where 
the heck YOUR slab of steak came from when it's in the supermarket?  How do I 
know I'm getting farmer Jack's beef from across the road?  I don't.  (By the 
way both farms feed antibiotics and all the other nasty drugs cows get as a 
preventative measure.  Great!  So does it really matter?)  Not to me!
Doris
Vegetarian all the way [Yes I realize vegetables are bad too GMO's and all bla 
bla bla]  Maybe I'll just live on silver water or kill myself  . before 
going insane!!!


- Original Message 
From: Rebecca Thomas beccatho...@webtv.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:40:16 AM
Subject: CSDairy cows


Terry, when you say..Then, of course, they are fed diets of various
animal parts too disgusting to mention, denied sunshine, green grass,
fresh water and exercise, and the resulting unhealthy animal produces
equally unhealthy milk. , I don't know about ALL of your points, but I
do know for a fact that this part isn't true for any of the dairies
where we lived and worked in OR!! 
Those cows lived in large pastures, only going in to the barn for
milking twice a day, or if one was sick. 
I also think it is the Beef cattle that are fed the unspeakable parts,
and I agree that that should stop immediately, if not sooner!!! 
Becca


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Re: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-29 Thread Cinder Ella
I agree with your statement that it's ridiculous to spend over $100 on a sleep 
aid.  Respectfully, gHP is not a sleep aid.  That is just one of its many 
functions and benefits.  Perhaps I should have explained in more detail at the 
time.  It is a combination of many amino acids:
L-LysineGlycine
L-Arginine  L-Leucine
L-Ornithine L-Iso-Leucine
L-GlutamineL-Valine
which is all designed to promote the release of your own natural growth hormone 
from your own pituitary gland (for us over 25) to that of a younger age of 
about 20 when our bodies were much quicker to heal and not so easy to wrinkle.  
 :0)
Doris
PS:  I also eat a wide variety of nuts including walnuts but not before going 
to bed as I don't believe on having food in my stomach while Im sleeping.  My 
body needs time out to rest and repair and if I eat before bed time, I get 
heartburn and have a bad night.  


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I use the Somalife gHP and I sleep like a baby with no side effects and no down 
time in the morning and the amino acids do many other things in my body besides 
just make me sleep better.

 I had read that eating a handful of walnuts before going to bed would help, 

Thought you might like to try the nuts at about $5 a pound, instead of sleep 
aids at over $100!

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Re: CSDairy cows

2007-04-29 Thread Cinder Ella
I'm not a fanatic about vegetarianism.  I do eat meat 2-3 times a month when 
I'm in that social situation or at a restauraunt that wouldn't know how to 
properly deal with a real vegetarian's needs, but I don't ever get wild 
cravings for meat or carbs or anything really.  I can do without meat and it 
doesn't bother me.  So far so good but it's only been about 3 months.  Lived 
that way many years ago but my husband wouldn't do it with me so I went back to 
meat again.  At least this way it will reduce the toxic load on my poor aging 
liver! :0)
Doris


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From: jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net
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Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:29:07 PM
Subject: RE: CSDairy cows


I would love to be a vegetarian again, but after over a decade, I started 
having too many problems. I spoke with others who concur that they got run down 
on a veg diet. Part of it is people tend to eat more carbs but also people are 
now advocating a raw veg diet b/c enzymes are killed when veggies are cooked. 
However it's a lifestyle change to go raw. Jess
-Original Message-
From: Cinder Ella [mailto:mcomfy...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDairy cows


I used to work in a lot of the major hotels in Toronto and in the staff 
cafeteria were two big blue bins.  It was for leftover food from your plate and 
food that no one wanted.  On a regular basis it was picked up and I asked where 
the food went to since it was obviously garbage.  I was told by the hotel 
staff that it was recycled into feed for animals.  A company comes and picks 
it up and they mulch it all together and recycle it to put into, for example, 
cattle feed.  He didn't get into all the details but that means that chicken, 
pork, fish, white bread, gravy, spices, lamb and whatever unedible edibles went 
into it were given to other animals for feed and that's just disgusting because 
I  don't advocate eating pork since learning about Rife and knowing what the 
heck those animals are harboring in terms of parasites.  Now my cows and 
chickens have the same parasites as the pork I refuse to eat.  So guess what?  
I am now a vegetarian and don't even eat fish anymore. 
 A cow won't go into the pasture and attack a pig or a chicken to eat.  Why do 
we insist on fooling them to do otherwise?  We are a sick warped society if you 
ask me and it's going to come back to nip us in the bud.
 
On the contrary, my father lives across the road from a cattle and a dairy 
farmer.  I don't personally know what they are fed but I can tell you he feeds 
them hay because I see it in the field piled up and when they go away, my dad 
takes over and feeds them and they run free all day in the many boundless acres 
of green grass and sunshine.  I highly doubt they feed them anything else from 
hotel blue bins but this is only one farm in Canada.  Perhaps high volume farms 
are different.  But here's the conundrum .. how do you know where 
the heck YOUR slab of steak came from when it's in the supermarket?  How do I 
know I'm getting farmer Jack's beef from across the road?  I don't.  (By the 
way both farms feed antibiotics and all the other nasty drugs cows get as a 
preventative measure.  Great!  So does it really matter?)  Not to me!
Doris
Vegetarian all the way [Yes I realize vegetables are bad too GMO's and all bla 
bla bla]  Maybe I'll just live on silver water or kill myself  . before 
going insane!!!


- Original Message 
From: Rebecca Thomas beccatho...@webtv.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:40:16 AM
Subject: CSDairy cows


Terry, when you say..Then, of course, they are fed diets of various
animal parts too disgusting to mention, denied sunshine, green grass,
fresh water and exercise, and the resulting unhealthy animal produces
equally unhealthy milk. , I don't know about ALL of your points, but I
do know for a fact that this part isn't true for any of the dairies
where we lived and worked in OR!! 
Those cows lived in large pastures, only going in to the barn for
milking twice a day, or if one was sick. 
I also think it is the Beef cattle that are fed the unspeakable parts,
and I agree that that should stop immediately, if not sooner!!! 
Becca


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Re: CSRe: Gatorade

2007-04-29 Thread Cinder Ella
Ok, this is for the folks who have been doing this CS stuff for a long time.  
In reading this Gatorade thingie, one question comes to mind.  You are not able 
to make CS/EIS in anything but distilled water for a very good reason and 
cannot add salt to it.  This is what was causing all the problems with 
Argyria. no?  Silver Salts?  So Gatorade is an electrolyte replacement with 
salt in it as far as I know.  All I know about Gatorade is to me it's a 
horribly disgusting drink that I can't stand.  I was told that's because I'm 
not an athlete sweating out my salts etc and my body doesn't need the 
electrolytes so if I was deficient, it wouldn't taste so bad to me.  Anyway, if 
you are mixing the CS/EIS with Gatorade, isn't that turning the CS/EIS into 
something we didn't want in the first place?  Doesn't it change the CS?  Then 
why don't we just brew the CS in Gatorade?  Then we can have the electrolytes 
and the CS/EIs all in one container ready to go?  It would conduct a lot
 better with all the electrolytes in there... no?
Doris


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I was reading about MSG on some website (sorry, don't remember which one) last
night and they list Gatorade as a product that contains MSG. Don't know whether
it's true or not. I don't use Gatorade anyway. What about Pedialyte? Would that
work instead of Gatorade or is it any better?
Gerard


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Re: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-28 Thread Cinder Ella
Hi Dee:
I read the article and I tried Melatonin.  It was GNC brand for $13.00 and I 
can't say it really did anything for me.  I use the Somalife gHP and I sleep 
like a baby with no side effects and no down time in the morning and the amino 
acids do many other things in my body besides just make me sleep better.  It 
runs me about $106 Cdn a month but it works and it repairs scar tissue 
internally like for instance if you have scar tissue from a car accident.  It 
helped my boss.  It also helps with a whole host of other things too.  
Doris


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From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:45:48 PM
Subject: CSMelatonin - OT

http://wellnessletter.com/html/ds/dsMelatonin.php  going back to the melatonin 
posts, I found this which should be read, I think.  Any comments?  Dee


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Re: CSSkin Cancer especially to Dee - OT again

2007-04-23 Thread Cinder Ella
From what I can gather, Iodoral is the pill form of Lugol's, exact same thing. 
 That has been voiced here on a previous post as well.  Iodoral is also more 
expensive.  But reading this website, it looks like the potassium iodide and 
the iodine crystals that are used to make the iodine solution are not water 
soluble, although on my container it states three ingredients and the third 
one is distilled water.  According to them you need one of two things to 
dissolve the crystals and chloride/chlorine is one of them.  This is 
apparently dangerous or undesirable.  So that begs the question. if 
potassium iodide and iodine are not dissolvable by water, and the only other 
ingredient is water on the label, how did they dissolve the crystals?  Perhaps 
there's a step in there they don't tell you about?  I don't know the answer.  

In any case the iodine on their website has been charged somehow to make it 
more bioavailable to the system and more recognizable by the body.  I'm not a 
chemist.  I don't know the answers to all the questions.  I think one of these 
days my brain is going to explode.  :0)  I'm almost tempted to try it when my 
500 ml is gone.  That might be a while though.  I've been using Lugol's for 
over a year and am still alive to talk about it and so are the dozen others I 
sell it to in my immediate circle.  
Doris

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From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:58:13 AM
Subject: Re: CSSkin Cancer especially to Dee - OT again


Yes it certainly is fascinating Doris, but I'm a bit mystified. I am using
iodoral so do you think that this one is better? I was using Ludols and
still use it topically, but thought the iodoral was better balanced. Dee 


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Re: CScarb blockers / Dee

2007-04-23 Thread Cinder Ella
Sorry to interject Dan, but you forgot one of the most important ingredients in 
that health drink V8, .. THE SUGAR/SALT.  I don't think there is 
anything great about that stuff.  Wow.  Better to juice your own.  After that 
nice list of vegetables is some other yucky ingredients.
Doris


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:32:15 AM
Subject: RE: CScarb blockers / Dee


Dee,

V8 is a vegetable juice cocktail consisting of 8 vegetables, mostly
tomato, carrot, and celery juices, I think...
It's not bad, tastes pretty good, and usually comes in a tin-can of some
sort.

The older TV commercials show someone slapping their forehead with the
palm of their hand saying, I could have had a V8.

Lately there is a sort of parody of this commercial, but still put out
by the company.  For instance, a lady looks into a baby carriage, or
pram, and is cooing to the baby.  Suddenly a hand comes out and slaps
her on the forehead...  It is actually pretty funny...

Dan



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From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScarb blockers / Dee

Dee PS being from the UK I didn't understand the V8 thing .  To me,
this is a powerful car engine!



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Re: CSSkin Cancer especially to Dee

2007-04-22 Thread Cinder Ella
WOW!  That was an amazing website.  The Karma Cleanse was only the tip of the 
iceberg.  I thought I knew everything about the thyroid and iodine.  Here we go 
again.  There is even an iodine source in the uk there.  I also looked at The 
Wet Cell and The Radial Device.  Interesting concept.  Has anyone here ever 
tried these things?  Not enough info on the web for me to try it.  I was also 
not able to get through to the contact us as my computer keeps looking for 
some microsoft passport.net password that I have no clue what it is.  Anyone 
have an idea for me about that?  I would like to talk to this guy further.

Dee you would find this site on the thyroid fascinating.  
Doris


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 1:57:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSSkin Cancer
 It is not hard to kill cancer, it is getting out of your body safely that is 
the key. You might also want to look into  Karma Cleanse 
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CSStain Remover

2007-04-21 Thread Cinder Ella
My apologies, the cleaning pad was called Melamine Foam.  If you google it on 
the net you will see how it works without chemicals.  It was originally used as 
a soundproofing barrier and they discovered because of its properties that it 
cleans well.
Doris
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CSTo Terry, Dee and Vwolf re pH

2007-04-21 Thread Cinder Ella
I went to GNC to pick up my pH strips and the new guy gave me a CD.  I left it 
sit for a couple weeks and finally decided to play it.  If you guys wish I can 
send you the audio (if I can manage to download it from the disk) but the link 
to the company is www.bufferph.com  I think pretty much what's on the cd is on 
the web site in pieces but interesting info, very informative on disease and pH 
and weight loss, heart problems, arteriosclerosis, diabetes etc.   Very 
interesting.  I was considering getting the product but I'm not so sure I want 
to ingest Sorbitol.  Any thoughts on that one?  The other ingredients look 
great and they describe in great detail about the great lengths they go through 
to assure purity and processing etc.  It's quite impressive to listen to.  Give 
me your thoughts Terry.
Doris


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Re: CSgrey EIS stains

2007-04-20 Thread Cinder Ella
I've discovered that a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser can remove ANYTHING in its path 
and is safe.  I use it to clean my van, iodine stains off my counter top, oven 
goo, stovetop mess and many other things.  It's cheap cheap cheap and the 
single most amazing thing I've ever seen in cleaning.  There are no chemicals, 
something called malamite foam? (spelling?)  google Magic Eraser.  If you live 
in the US they might send you a free sample.  I don't know if you can get at 
the inside of the tub to clean it.  For anyone else out there this is an 
amazing thing.  I wonder if it will clean stains off of teeth as well?  Have to 
try it if it ever happens to me.
Doris


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From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:08:25 PM
Subject: CSgrey EIS stains


this has been discussed many times before, but since the archives are down, i 
would like to ask, how can the grey stain from EIS be removed?  i use a hudson 
ultrasonic humidifier to nebulize cs for colds, etc., and it works great. but 
the tank on the machine is getting pretty grey lookin. anyone with a good 
technique for removin the stain? it seems that hydrogen peroxide was used by 
some users. any suggestions appreciated deeply.
thanks,   jim


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Re: CSsilver toothbrush

2007-04-17 Thread Cinder Ella
That's quite interesting and innovative of someone.  I think, though, that I 
will just continue to spray or soak my toothbrush with hydrogen peroxide and cs 
water.  Seems a lot cheaper and easier.  Heck I went through the trouble of 
buying a cs maker, might as well put it to good use!

Why didn't I come up with that idea of the silver toothbrush?  Is that a well 
known manufacturer?  Will we be seeing it in the stores anytime soon?
Doris


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Subject: CSsilver toothbrush


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Re: CSFinal Word on Iodine

2007-04-15 Thread Cinder Ella
I clicked on the link in my window and it opens up even in this email.  Try 
again at another time maybe.
doris


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From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:04:57 AM
Subject: Re: CSFinal Word on Iodine

I can't make this work Doris.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Cinder Ella
Date: 15/04/2007 05:11:08
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSFinal Word on Iodine
 
I know a lot of the group discussed iodine to death.  I have read myself to 
death on the subject and have found a most interesting radio broadcast with Dr. 
Fletchas.  It is lengthy (46 min) but for those of you who never want to have 
another question on iodine again and want answers to all health issues, visit  
http://iodine4health.com/research/flechas_2007_iodine2.mp3
 
and I guarantee it will be worth the listen.  This is the most amazing thing I 
have ever heard, seen, read.  Also he has a website where you can get more info 
if you really need it but you'll have to listen to the broadcast to get it.  
Tee Hee hee.
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Re: CSFinal Word on Iodine /Doris

2007-04-15 Thread Cinder Ella
That's where I pulled that mp3 on Dr. Fletchas from.  It was on one of the 
posts I read through and was the most amazing thing I've ever come across.
www.curezone.com/forum  I believe that's correct, or something like that
Doris


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Re: CSCS gel

2007-04-14 Thread Cinder Ella
I have lots of aloe plants and haven't found a use for them yet.  I even put a 
little CS water in theplants when I water them.  Haven't noticed a difference 
yet.  This sounds a lot better than buying that gel stuff from the internet, a 
lot healthier.  Could you please give the measurements of how much of each to 
put in?  How much aloe, how much CS  to one large spoon of olive oil?  
Thanks
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I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm  
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix  
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
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Re: CSCS gel

2007-04-14 Thread Cinder Ella
Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without some sort of 
stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture stay fresh and not 
oxidize and stay clear?
Doris


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I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm  
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix  
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
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CSFinal Word on Iodine

2007-04-14 Thread Cinder Ella
I know a lot of the group discussed iodine to death.  I have read myself to 
death on the subject and have found a most interesting radio broadcast with Dr. 
Fletchas.  It is lengthy (46 min) but for those of you who never want to have 
another question on iodine again and want answers to all health issues, visit  
http://iodine4health.com/research/flechas_2007_iodine2.mp3

and I guarantee it will be worth the listen.  This is the most amazing thing I 
have ever heard, seen, read.  Also he has a website where you can get more info 
if you really need it but you'll have to listen to the broadcast to get it.  
Tee Hee hee.
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Re: CSAutism help

2007-04-12 Thread Cinder Ella
Some say that Autism is due in most part to heavy metal toxicity.  I have a 
wonderful article at home I will try to forward, but I'm sure by that time the 
group will have forwarded enough of that.  Long story short then, Greens, 
Chlorella especially, detox metals pretty good and is safe for children.  You 
can also make a paste out of cashews, cilantro and lemon juice and put on toast 
for adults although I don't think a 2 year old will like that!  
Doris


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Subject: CSAutism help


My daughter-in-law sent me an e-mail this morning saying that our grandson's 
doctor wants to test him for autism. He does seem to have some of the 
characteristics, namely repetitive actions and delayed speech. He just turned 2 
years old a few weeks ago,  I'm trying to find the best protocols to deal with 
it. Does anyone have any experience with how to do the detoxing? Thanks.
Paula


  

CSRe: pH

2007-04-12 Thread Cinder Ella
For all out there who would like an excellent website and more info on pH and a 
lot of things, go to www.alkalizeforhealth.net  It also gives you what minerals 
etc to take to raise pH and a whole lot of other neat stuff.

Doris


  

Re: CSRe: pH

2007-04-12 Thread Cinder Ella
I get my pH papers from GNC health store.  I found the ones I wanted and made 
them carry it.  They are the right ones.  I believe if you read the entire info 
on pH you will find that it is meant as an overall lifestyle for someone who 
insists on eating everything.  They recommend 80% food that is highly alkaline 
and 20% food that is slightly acid forming.  I believe with a healthy lifestyle 
and relative good health, it's safe to eat a little of everything (although for 
now I've gone vegetarian by choice).  Take everything with a grain of salt that 
you read.  Usually it's written for the masses.
Doris


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From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:49:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: pH

It is really interesting Cinderella, although rather a lot to absorb.  One 
thing, it recommends avoiding things like meat, cheese eggs and fish, while 
saying it is ok to eat grains as they are only mildly acidic.  Now I could be 
wrong, but most people like Mercola etc.. Strongly recommend *not* eating 
grains at all!  I wonder if Terry will be able to enlighten me?  Also, I 
noticed the pH papers were the .5 ones which Terry said *not* to get.  Just a 
thought.  Dee  
 
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From: Cinder Ella
Date: 04/12/07 17:34:16
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: pH
 
For all out there who would like an excellent website and more info on pH and a 
lot of things, go to www.alkalizeforhealth.net  It also gives you what minerals 
etc to take to raise pH and a whole lot of other neat stuff.
 
Doris


  

Re: CSCarb Blockers

2007-04-09 Thread Cinder Ella
There are ways to boost your metabolism.  Unclogging your liver is a good way 
to start.
Doris


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Subject: Re: CSCarb Blockers

Hi Doris, I know what you mean, and this actually  happens even when you just 
diet naturally without carb blockers.  I have to literally starve to lose 
weight now because my metabolism is totally up the creek from constant dieting 
even when I really wasn't fat!   I do not eat sensibly but I don't eat massive 
amounts of food either, but even when I cut my calories down to 1500 per day, 
(which is mostly what I usually consume, perhaps a bit more but never over 
2000) and yet I am 196lbs. (I think somewhere the Dee's have got mixed up!) and 
I am 5' 6 I know people do not believe this and think that when you are this 
sort of weight, that you must be stuffing your face secretly, but I can assure 
you this is not true.  And when I do starve and lose a few pounds, if I deviate 
one little bit from the starvation mode, then I pile it on again and more!  
Hence the weight now.  This beggars the question at the end of the day, what do 
you do?  Dee (not the 145lb  Dee LOL!) 
 
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Subject: Re: CSCarb Blockers
 
   Now all of a sudden the whooshing effect stops and all the xyz calories 
are once again being recognized by your body.  Now your body says, I don't 
know... we did perfectly fine with x for so long and we don't really need 
yz anymore.  Tell you what... we'll store them just in case she does this 
to us again!  Now you gain back the weight.  It's what happens with ALL forms 
of calorie reduced diets and forms of deprivation.  And that's exactly what 
carb and fat blockers do even though you can't see it happening.  I know 
because I went through this and after all was said and done I developed 
hindsight and researched the ingredients and realized what was happening.  Well 
that and I examined my stool carefully.

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Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood test- now iodine again - OT

2007-04-09 Thread Cinder Ella
I replied to you.  The other person who thought you were not overweight replied 
to Carol Anne thinking it was you.  (Must have been a guy tee hee hee :0))
Doris


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Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 4:15:59 AM
Subject: Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood 
test- now iodine again - OT

Hi Doris, I seemed to have replied to your email through another persons reply! 
 I do agree, but I just cannot eat 'normal' food (i.e. Veggies, meat etc.,) so 
tend to live on sandwiches and fruit.  I do not eat massive amounts though; 
never more than 2000 calories per day, and if there is something out there that 
could give me a kick start it would be worth it just to bring the weight down  
so that I could continue as I was already doing.  The trouble with starvation 
diets is that you can't sustain them for obvious reasons and as soon as you eat 
anywhere near a normal amount of calories, bang, on it goes and more!  Dee (I 
think you replied to Carol Ann and thought it was me)
 
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From: Cinder Ella
Date: 08/04/2007 19:09:26
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood 
test- now iodine again - OT
 
I tried those carb blocker thingies too and lost weight.  You are also losing 
nutrients and if you should ever stop taking those wonderful carb blockers and 
have not managed to changed your eating 
patterns... guess what's going to 
happen?  Your body will put all the weight on and more.  Once your body has 
been deprived of calories, by whatever means, it adapts and makes better use of 
what it is allowed to have.  Then as soon as it gets more than it's used to it 
doesn't need the extra to survive anymore and immediately puts it into fat 
storage for a rainy day.  Take it from someone who has been there ... 
done that!  Your body is a wonderfully adaptive machine, very intricate and 
complicated.
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Re: CSCarb Blockers

2007-04-09 Thread Cinder Ella
Do as you like, just sharing my experience.  Take the carb blocker and see what 
happens to you.
Doris


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Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 12:58:25 PM
Subject: Re: CSCarb Blockers


Carol Ann wrote:
 hmmm.  I am not sure sure I agree totally.  After reading this thread 
 I went and bought a bottle while I was at the store for sumten else.  
 anyway, I am not what anyone would consider overweight,  yet, I 
 could stand to lose 10-14 lbs easily as I know I would feel better.  
  
 What has happened is that my body likes the weight its at.dosent 
 seem to want to budge regardless of what I do, it seems to have 
 settled at 145lbs. (5' 7).  A few of these extra lbs are in the wrong 
 place.I think the use of such a product to accomplish a short term 
 goal, wherein the body can get a jumpstart and then readjust to a 
 different weight is reasonable.  To use it to abuse food however is 
 another matter and I would concur with you Doris. 

I am not sure I would call it abusing food.  We eat out a lot, and 
unfortunately restaurant food is much higher in carbs than we would 
like. To get sufficient proteins, vitamins, minerals and so forth, 
requires eating more starches than needed or desired.  This allows one 
to kill much of the carbs, while still getting the nutrition from the 
other parts of the meal.

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Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide?

2007-04-09 Thread Cinder Ella
Just because you didn't have any cavities after doesn't mean there wasn't any 
damage being caused to the mercury fillings.  Perhaps the hydrogen peroxide was 
cleaning your teeth well all over and you didn't have any cavities but did you 
ever research to find out if it was also releasing mercury into your system?  
Hydrogen Peroxide does react with metal from all that I know and have been 
told.  When my last amalgam fillings are gone next month I fully intend to use 
hydrogen peroxide as a rinse.  
Doris


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Subject: Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide?


Several years ago I began treating my mouth with peroxide after brushing
my teeth at night.  When I went to the dentist he found no cavities 
asked what I'd been doing.  He said 'It's working GREAT, keep it up!!!
I have several amalgam fllings.

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Re: CSaspirin

2007-04-09 Thread Cinder Ella
A pilot friend of mine said he experienced this and when he searched out the 
reason for it he found it was the hamburger he had earlier.  Apparently all 
these fast food burger places spray their lettuce with something so it won't 
wilt so fast.  He was allergic to this and developed this wierd tunnel vision 
for short periods.  Also he said as a pilot some major airlines demand that 
their pilots do not eat any amount of aspartame or any other fake sweetener as 
it causes problems big time.  So you guys with your pizza and pop (non-diet) 
don't get me started on aspartame.  That stuff is deadly.
Doris


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Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 12:42:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSaspirin

This is *very* similar to what I had.  Dee  
 
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From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 04/09/07 17:00:18
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSaspirin
 
There is a pretty good animation of what one is like at
http://www.knownjohnson.com/?p=73
 
Mine was more jagged, with triangular points facing in, like sharks
teeth, and was black and not in color, but this is a pretty good simulation.
 
 
 
Marshall


  

Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide?

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
I thought adding hydrogen peroxide to EIS CS would nullify it.  Just like when 
you swish hydrogen peroxide in your mouth with amalgam fillings the fillings 
react with the H2O2 and you're not supposed to do that.  I had some colloidal 
silver and gold made by someone else and it was yellow.  After I added some 
hydrogen peroxide to it, it went clear.  Anyone know what the heck happened 
there?
Doris


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Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 8:17:09 AM
Subject: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide?


I've read that adding one or two drops of 35% hydrogen peroxide to colloidal
silver can break up the silver into smaller particles.  Does anyone know
anything about this?
Any info or advice would be much appreicated.  Thanks.
Frankie

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CSRe:Iodine and Breast Cancer

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
Hi Sol, I have a book called Breast Cancer and Iodine by Dr. David M. Derry 
Md, PhD  It is published by Trafford Publishing  and can be found at 
www.trafford.com  if you are interested in knowing more about it, or anyone 
else on this forum ISBN# 155212884-9  He is a Canadian doctor and went to 
school in Canada, British Columbia, and Montreal.  In the book are about 126 
references to all kinds of books and articles in print including JAMA, (not 
that I hold any stock in JAMA because I think it's all propaganda but anyway).
Doris


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Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2007 2:30:50 PM
Subject: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood 
test- now iodine again - OT


Here is another site (it does mention iodine in other body tissues than 
the thyroid gland, and mentions iodine for fibrocystic breast disease 
though it says nothing about breast cancer)
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Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood test- now iodine again - OT

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
Dee, the weight loss thing may have more to do with a congested liver than just 
iodine supplementation by itself.  I have been taking iodine and haven't lost a 
milimeter.  I also know though that I have a congested liver and am working on 
cleansing my entire body right now.  Remember your fat cells are also your 
body's way of protecting your vital organs from toxins that your liver can't 
filter out.  If your liver is clogged or congested, then the toxins are 
floating around in your blood stream and your body tends to engulf them with 
fat and store them to protect your vital organs like heart and brain so they 
aren't damaged.  Then they store the fat in your body thinking they have done 
you a favour because your liver can no longer do it's job.  It's important to 
remember that our body is a whole and our individual organs don't work 
independently of one another.  When one failsafe fails there is always another 
system waiting to take over.  Since everyone is in a different
 state of wellness each of us will react differently to the same supplements 
or protocols.  If you are not losing weight, there is something else working 
against you here.  

I know when I did the bowel, parasite cleanse I felt a lot better.  Now I am 
doing the kidney cleanse and then finally continuing with the liver cleanse and 
hopefully when I start to exercise things will change.  Will let you know of 
the outcome but I've read enough to convince me of this.  There is also another 
awesome book called The Liver Causes Heart Attacks by WP Neufeld M.D. 
published by Gordon Soules Book www.gordonsoules.com  ISBN# 0-88925-816-3  I am 
a nurse and was amazed by this.  It all sounds very plausible and I have 
experienced the symptoms in the book exactly as they are described.  Now I know 
what they actually mean.  It's scary but also freeing as I know how to stop 
what is happening and turn it around.  

What I would really like to do is type both of these books out and be able to 
email them but that would take time I don't really have right now.  
Doris


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From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
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Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 10:01:16 AM
Subject: Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood 
test- now iodine again - OT

Really I'm quite fed up because it seems that you read one thing is good for 
you and then along comes something else to say that it is not!  I did the 
suggested iodine test (a patch on the skin) and it was absorbed in seven hours. 
 This is supposed to indicate that I am low on iodine and as I have one or two 
symptoms that would seem to support this I am now taking a supplement of it.  I 
have to say that I have far more energy than I did and feel much better, but 
the weight thing is still a problem, as I have to eat next to nothing to lose 
it.  Even then it doesn't seem to work.  I am getting to the stage where I am 
going to use *no* supplements at all but make juice.  Mind you, I've read that 
even that is not as good as eating fruit!  You can't win!  Dee  
 
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From: sol
Date: 05/04/2007 19:31:31
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood 
test- now iodine again - OT
 
Here is another site (it does mention iodine in other body tissues than
the thyroid gland, and mentions iodine for fibrocystic breast disease
though it says nothing about breast cancer)
sol
 
 
It may be harmful to take more iodine than is typically consumed per day
(160 to 600 micrograms [mcg]) from table salt. Daily intake of 2,000 mcg
iodine may be toxic, particularly in people with kidney disease or
tuberculosis.
 
 
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Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood test- now iodine again - OT

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
I tried those carb blocker thingies too and lost weight.  You are also losing 
nutrients and if you should ever stop taking those wonderful carb blockers and 
have not managed to changed your eating 
patterns... guess what's going to 
happen?  Your body will put all the weight on and more.  Once your body has 
been deprived of calories, by whatever means, it adapts and makes better use of 
what it is allowed to have.  Then as soon as it gets more than it's used to it 
doesn't need the extra to survive anymore and immediately puts it into fat 
storage for a rainy day.  Take it from someone who has been there ... 
done that!  Your body is a wonderfully adaptive machine, very intricate and 
complicated.
Doris


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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 11:04:38 AM
Subject: Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium on blood 
test- now iodine again - OT


Try using carb blockers, such as one of the phase II products.  My wife 
who is diabetic now eats almost normally by taking one of these before 
any meal that has starches in it. And I started taking them last week, 
and have lost 10 pounds with no change in my eating habits.

Marshall

Dee wrote:
 Really I'm quite fed up because it seems that you read one thing is 
 good for you and then along comes something else to say that it is 
 not!  I did the suggested iodine test (a patch on the skin) and it was 
 absorbed in seven hours.  This is supposed to indicate that I am low 
 on iodine and as I have one or two symptoms that would seem to 
 support this I am now taking a supplement of it.  I have to say that I 
 have far more energy than I did and feel much better, but the weight 
 thing is still a problem, as I have to eat next to nothing to lose 
 it.  Even then it doesn't seem to work.  I am getting to the stage 
 where I am going to use *no* supplements at all but make juice.  Mind 
 you, I've read that even that is not as good as eating fruit!  You 
 can't win!  Dee  
  
 /---Original Message---/
  
 /*From:*/ sol mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
 /*Date:*/ 05/04/2007 19:31:31
 /*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
 /*Subject:*/ another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CSlow sodium 
 on blood test- now iodine again - OT
  
 Here is another site (it does mention iodine in other body tissues than
 the thyroid gland, and mentions iodine for fibrocystic breast disease
 though it says nothing about breast cancer)
 sol
  
  
 It may be harmful to take more iodine than is typically consumed per day
 (160 to 600 micrograms [mcg]) from table salt. Daily intake of 2,000 mcg
 iodine may be toxic, particularly in people with kidney disease or
 tuberculosis.
  
  
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CSRe: weight loss....DEE

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
Dee Have you ever read How To Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type?  I have also read 
that book and it is very easy to find out who you are and what you should be 
eating and not eating and explains in great detail why.
Doris


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Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 2:38:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSIodine/. weight lossDEE

I think I have probably tried every diet in the book over the years!  i have 
Mercola's book on body types, but can't really decide which type I am! I seem 
to be a mix of all of them!  I know that carbs make me fat though, but can't 
follow anything like the Atkins as I don't like meat much.  I tend to live on 
sandwiches and I think it is probably the bread which is the culprit!  A 
hopeless case I'm afraid, but thank you for all your help.  Regards Dee 
 
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From: vwol...@aol.com
Date: 06/04/2007 17:11:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSIodine/. weight lossDEE
 
Dee...do you mind if I make a suggestion?
First I think I better make a comment...I am very overweight...and I got this 
way from dieting.
For years...I ate next to nothing  smoked like a madwoman  but no food...and 
grew and grew in size.
Looking back...I know what I should have done...but the years of diet pills  
and not feeding my body has ruined my metabolism.
So I am slowly trying to rebuild..using what I have learned in the past few 
years.

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Re: CSCarb Blockers

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
Again Dee, I don't know if you'll be reading my original response to this as 
the topic has changed in the last couple of days to Carb blockers, but this 
gentleman's wife will probably be taking these carb blockers for the rest of 
her life and she doesn't have to worry about what happens when she 
stops. which will ultimately be weight gain.  Don't do it.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 3:32:15 PM
Subject: Re: CSCarb Blockers

Thanks very much Marshall.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 04/06/07 20:23:21
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCarb Blockers
 
Here are some ratings http://consumerhealthdigest.com/toptencarbblocker.htm

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Re: CSvita mix

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
I have a Vita Mix and consider it well worth the price I paid.  Bought it for 
$400+ at a show.  Yes it is a glorified blender but the motor is so powerful it 
will do things my blender won't.  I've burned out at least one blender but this 
thing won't die no matter what I do.  I also have a juicer and quite frankly I 
prefer to have my fiber.  We all need more fiber in our diet and by using a 
juicer you are taking out a lot of nutrients and all the fiber.  I like my 
fiber.  I like my Vita Mix.
Doris


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From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 4:03:47 PM
Subject: CSvita mix to susan and iodine to sol


Susan can you use the vita mix the same way as a juicer? I thought that a vita 
mix was just a high powered blender that crushed ice and fruit. Does it work as 
effectively as a regular juice extractor? I have been wanting to buy a good 
juicer but find them so cumbersome. 
sol, have you ever had a test with contrast dyes? I told a tech that I was 
allergic and she told me that I had no choice and that i would need to take 
appropriate measure like steroids or benedryl to offset the symptoms. I choose 
not to have the test.


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CSRe: weight loss/Kevin Trudeau

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
I have almost every book from Kevin Trudeau including his Mega Memory book when 
he first started out.  Were they what he said they were?  NO.  I also 
subscribed to his website for over a year.  Was it what he said it would be?  
NO.  Would I do it all over again?  Probably.  Will I continue to purchase his 
books?  NO!  I have also stopped subscription to his website and have heard 
from others that they tried to stop their subscription and their pleas fell on 
deaf ears.  They can't get off (at least 3 people I know) and they had to go 
and change their credit card numbers to stop him.  One person I know bought his 
diet book (although a part of that comes with one of his regular books which I 
have and didn't find particularly helpful, like the rest of his books) and she 
said there is something you have to have injected every day.  I don't know 
whether or not this injection is natural or not.  She couldn't remember what it 
was.  In general, I don't recommend wasting any money on
 Kevin Trudeau's books.  I admire the man and admire what he has done and is 
trying to do for the general public and the world at large but if you want your 
money better spent, there are other books out there that would be more helpful 
in terms of informational value.
Doris
just my humble opinion, Sorry Kevin


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From: vwol...@aol.com vwol...@aol.com
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Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 5:20:57 PM
Subject: Re: CSIodine/. weight lossDEE/Kevin Trudeau


In a message dated 4/6/2007 5:04:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
papad...@gmail.com writes:
You might scan this new book when it comes out =

http://tinyurl.com/yufcz8
I went to the site...I have been thinking about this book since I saw the 
infomercial the other morning.
Like Dee and I guess a zillion others...I have tried every diet imaginable.
Altho the Carb Addictive diet worked for me years ago...it no longer does.
I am guessing hormones and menopause...

Like Ruth and Dee   I have so many obstacles to overcome to get to a healthy 
space.

I have concluded my basic problem is that I had an injury as a child...a hit to 
the forehead with a baseball bat...complete accident..I was a city child just 
moved to the country and did not know that you shouldn't come up behind someone 
about to swing a bat:(
Still have the lump between my eyes after all these years...I believe that 
smack moved something inside the brain..probably in the Hypothalamus area.

Up till that time I was very tall for my age and active ...I then stopped my 
growth ...stayed at that level the rest of my life and had early 
menses...becoming Estrogen dominant...and the problems began.

Any how   telling you all this because  the concept that Kevin speaks of 
...correcting the Hypothalamus...reregulating it...really caught my attention.
So of course I was interested.

Your post caused me to go to the url you sent .
However,  there seems to be an implication that one has to take 
something...completely natural..of course:(...in order to accomplish what he is 
speaking of.
 
My question...has anyone bought this book  and is there a product involved?
I would appreciate any info on this...willing to purchase Yet Another Book on 
this subject if I think it is worth it.thanksV.






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CSRe: weight loss..stick on patches..to Smitty

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
Yes I've tried some stick on patches for weight loss.  It had some herbs 
impregnated on them.  They didn't stick well and they didn't work AT ALL.  
Total waste of my money.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 5:48:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSIodine/. weight lossDEE/Kevin Trudeau


I also saw the TV infomercial. Very impressive. I'll wait till Border's
or BN has it and scan thru it. I'll buy two, one for my daughter and
another for my sister-in-law, both obese.

while on the subject of weight loss, has anyone tried the
stick-on patches ?

Smitty



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 In a message dated 4/6/2007 5:04:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 papad...@gmail.com writes:
 You might scan this new book when it comes out =

 http://tinyurl.com/yufcz8
 I went to the site...I have been thinking about this book since I saw the
 infomercial the other morning.
 Like Dee and I guess a zillion others...I have tried every diet
 imaginable.
 Altho the Carb Addictive diet worked for me years ago...it no longer does.
 I am guessing hormones and menopause...

 Like Ruth and Dee   I have so many obstacles to overcome to get to a healthy
 space.

 I have concluded my basic problem is that I had an injury as a child...a hit
 to the forehead with a baseball bat...complete accident..I was a city child
 just moved to the country and did not know that you shouldn't come up behind
 someone about to swing a bat:(
 Still have the lump between my eyes after all these years...I believe that
 smack moved something inside the brain..probably in the Hypothalamus area.

 Up till that time I was very tall for my age and active ...I then stopped my
 growth ...stayed at that level the rest of my life and had early
 menses...becoming Estrogen dominant...and the problems began.

 Any how   telling you all this because  the concept that Kevin speaks of
 ...correcting the Hypothalamus...reregulating it...really caught my
 attention.
 So of course I was interested.

 Your post caused me to go to the url you sent .
 However,  there seems to be an implication that one has to take
 something...completely natural..of course:(...in order to accomplish what he
 is speaking of.

 My question...has anyone bought this book  and is there a product involved?
 I would appreciate any info on this...willing to purchase Yet Another Book
 on this subject if I think it is worth it.thanksV.


 
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CSRe: iodine allergy to Sol

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
It's interesting to note that people who are allergic to Shellfish are usually 
allergic to iodine as well.  Perhaps it's not the iodine you're allergic to but 
a component of the iodine?  Just a thought.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 11:54:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSvita mix to susan and iodine to sol


Hi,
   I was recommended to have such a test, but refused, for the reason 
that I don't want to suffer the allergic reaction, and the contrast 
medium was iodine of some kind.
   In my old age, I have learned to just say no to tests I believe are 
  too risky for me. In general I have found many medical personnel to be 
contemptuous of patient concerns re allergies, and some have even said 
to me they don't believe in iodine allergy, and I fear those types would 
use iodine in/on me while saying they won't.

sol

zeb caffe wrote:

 sol, have you ever had a test with contrast dyes? I told a tech that I 
 was allergic and she told me that I had no choice and that i would need 
 to take appropriate measure like steroids or benedryl to offset the 
 symptoms. I choose not to have the test.


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CSRe: to V re iodine /Betadine

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
There is iodine in Betadine:
Betadine is iodine complexed with povidone (polyvinyl-pyrrolidone). The 
compound is soluble in water forming a golden brown solution. Like iodine, the 
solution of the iodine complex is bactericidal, fungicidal, virucidal and 
trichomonacidal.
It is really strange that topically it bothers you and internally it doesn't.  
Perhaps you're allergic to the other ingredient in the Betadine? and not the 
iodine?  Are you allergic to Shellfish?
Doris


Sounds as though there is Iodine in the Betadine?
Funny, I am allergic to Betadine but have no problems with Iodine.
Now I am thinking its all in my head...puzzled.  V






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Re: CSCarb Blockers

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
I didn't mean to suggest that this gentleman's wife is abusing food.  She is a 
diabetic and I don't believe I would call it abuse.  For her she can probably 
eat like normal and doesn't experience sugar fluctuations and for a diabetic 
who has been sentenced to life with this affliction, it feels good to feel 
normal.  I'm a nurse and I always felt that out of all the diseases I could 
think of I don't think diabetes is something I could cope with.  I think it's 
really neat actually that she has found this loophole.  Unfortunately for 
those of us who don't need to resort to this loophole it can become trouble.  

As far as the carb blocker goes, I have used almost everything available to man 
including this product and from personal experience, I can tell you that it 
does nothing more than somehow encapsulate the fats and carbs and whooshes them 
right out of your system.  You go to the bathroom more often and the food is 
never even absorbed or recognized by your body.  I never abused food.  I always 
had a fairly balanced lifestyle.  When I was young I was a great weight and 
build, blonde, good looking.  I was athletic.  If I wasn't riding my bike down 
the bicycle path I was in our backyard swimming pool.  I took figure skating 
and on and on and on bla bla bla.  I ate good home cooked meals and lots of 
vegetables.  I never grew up with soda pop and we always had lots of veggies 
and fruits in the house.  After many years, life happened, I stopped all that 
activity and my metabolism slowed and heavy metal toxicity hit. need I say 
more?  Enough about that.  

When you continue eating your normal diet of xyz and take carb/fat blocker, 
your body whooshes the extra calories out of your body in their encapsulated 
form.  Your body doesn't recognize the yz calories, only the x and thinks 
you are eating less even though you are still eating xyz calories.  Being the 
efficient machine that your body is, it says to itself, hmmm if we are only 
going to get x calories from now on instead of xyz then we'll have to 
become more efficient at processing what we are given.  It goes into 
starvation mode and your body continue to function in a seemless mannner.  A 
month or three or four goes by and your body is now a well oiled machine with 
only x calories.  Then all of a sudden you stop taking the carb or carb and 
fat blocker.  Now all of a sudden the whooshing effect stops and all the xyz 
calories are once again being recognized by your body.  Now your body says, I 
don't know... we did perfectly fine with x for so long
 and we don't really need yz anymore.  Tell you what... we'll store them 
just in case she does this to us again!  Now you gain back the weight.  It's 
what happens with ALL forms of calorie reduced diets and forms of deprivation.  
And that's exactly what carb and fat blockers do even though you can't see it 
happening.  I know because I went through this and after all was said and done 
I developed hindsight and researched the ingredients and realized what was 
happening.  Well that and I examined my stool carefully.

So I apologize for this being lengthy but I didn't want any more 
misunderstandings.  I don't recommend this product for those reasons.  If you 
are going to take it for a week and then stop and then exercise the heck out of 
yourself, that may be another story.  There's my humble opinion for what it's 
worth from a soon to be 42 year old who has been through the diet mill.
Best of Luck to all
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2007 5:46:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSCarb Blockers


hmmm.  I am not sure sure I agree totally.  After reading this thread I went 
and bought a bottle while I was at the store for sumten else.  anyway, I am not 
what anyone would consider overweight,  yet, I could stand to lose 10-14 lbs 
easily as I know I would feel better.   
 
What has happened is that my body likes the weight its at.dosent seem to 
want to budge regardless of what I do, it seems to have settled at 145lbs. (5' 
7).  A few of these extra lbs are in the wrong place.I think the use of 
such a product to accomplish a short term goal, wherein the body can get a 
jumpstart and then readjust to a different weight is reasonable.  To use it to 
abuse food however is another matter and I would concur with you Doris.  

Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote:
Again Dee, I don't know if you'll be reading my original response to this as 
the topic has changed in the last couple of days to Carb blockers, but this 
gentleman's wife will probably be taking these carb blockers for the rest of 
her life and she doesn't have to worry about what happens when she 
stops. which will ultimately be weight gain.  Don't do it.
Doris

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Re: CSCarb Blockers/

2007-04-08 Thread Cinder Ella
V  perhaps in your situation it is good, I don't know.  I'm not a doctor and 
don't pretend to have all the answers.  I just know what I know because I've 
done the do and have suffered the consequences.  If you take it forever (as I'm 
sure your insulin problem isn't going away) then you may never have an issue.  
When you stop, however, you will have an issue.  If you look at Dr. Hulda 
Clark's books you will discover that (and I hope I'm remembering this info 
correctly) the common fluke is responsible for invading your pancreas and 
creating your insulin problems.  As well your liver is probably toxic and 
congested.  Maybe you might want to try an alternative way of dealing with the 
insulin problem?  Try going to the source instead of managing the symptoms?  I 
used a frequency generator to restore my periods to normal.  I was coming on 
1-2 weeks late, started zapping and each time ovaries throbbed and the next day 
I had my period.  I dont' know if I could feel my pancreas
 throbbing but I can feel my liver when it hurts.
Doris


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*K...Is that what will happen if I use the Carb Blockers?
I have hyperinsulinism and the doc recommends I use something like thisV.






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Re: CSNanosilver particles

2007-04-04 Thread Cinder Ella
Be careful what you are using to filter particles OUT because coffee filters 
and cotton or whatever else you use have unhealthy things in them that could be 
adding things back INTO your water that you DONT want.  Coffee filters are 
bleached and have chemicals in them.  Cotton isn't as pure as you think it is 
either.
  Doris

Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:
  Faith said,
 Nano particles would not be filtered out by a bit of
cotton, would they? 

Nano means billionths. Relating to nanosilver, we are
talking about nanometer (billionths of a meter) sized
particles, which nothing will filter out. OK, there
are some special ceramic filters that can filter out
even minerals, and reverse osmosis, if set to its
highest setting, can remove minerals from water, so I
would expect it would filter out the mineral silver as
well.

Nothing you would normally use would do it.

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Re: CSTooth Pain

2007-04-01 Thread Cinder Ella
The band was a metal form he put around my teeth much like a mold so he could 
fill it up with filling.  When the tooth was filled he took the band off and 
shaped the tooth.  Even though he gave me two needles when he was drilling I 
almost went through the roof in pain because he touched the nerve.  It is 
possible that one of two things is happening.  
   
  There might be a crack and daily more bugs are getting in and touching the 
nerve.  I didn't have an inflammation around my gums either.  You maybe can't 
keep up with the amount of bugs.
   
  Second, maybe you didn't hit the right frequency.  I used the zapper (Hulda 
Clark) and it didn't really do anything until I used my frequency generator at 
20Hz.  Then I felt the nerve throb for under a minute and then it was gone and 
my tooth was no longer sensitive.  My tooth only really hurt when I brushed it. 
 Otherwise I didn't really notice much.  Now I'm good to go.  
  Doris

Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Doris,
  I really do not feel it is an infection as I have zapped (Clark handheld), 
CS'd, DMSO'd, H202'd (peroxide), and finally antibiotic'd. There was never any 
infla. at the gum area. I also used CS as a rinse at both dentist's offices. 
However, I think it's a mechanical issue with a horizontal crack right at the 
gum where floss catches on it. So that it's an exposed area. That's why I 
mentioned the bonding. But can you give me any more info on the band you got? 
What is it made of? I just gotta find someone who knows about it. I live in 
Mexico. I really want to avoid a root canal or a tooth pull.
   
  Thanks for everyone's input. I will look for Oil of Oregano tomorrow.
   
  Pat

Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote:
The last few weeks I had pain under a major filling (amalgam) and I started 
brushing with a stop of oregano oil on my toothbrush.  Then I zapped with a 
frequency generator and a zapper.  The two teeth were painful and when I zapped 
them they throbbed seriously for about a minute and then the pain was gone.  I 
used the oregano oil to keep it that way (although it tastes like crap).  The 
two teeth in question were painful to brush with the toothbrush and this 
subsided after the above regime.  When I went to the dentist he drilled out the 
amalgam and I brought my own cs and asked him if he minded if I rinse with that 
instead of his tap water.  He was intrigued and said sure.  After all that he 
put a plastic white filling in and haven't had a problem since then.  The tooth 
was so bad he had to put a band around it to reshape the one tooth, actually 
both teeth.  I am now pain free but the both teeth are wobbling.  I think I'll 
look for a frequency that stimulates bone
 growth and see if my jaw bone will grab those teeth again and stabilize them.  
Pain free though and still in need of a crown eventually.
  Doris

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composit a month ago. Ended up with worse pain than before, so went to another 
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Re: CSTooth Pain

2007-03-31 Thread Cinder Ella
The last few weeks I had pain under a major filling (amalgam) and I started 
brushing with a stop of oregano oil on my toothbrush.  Then I zapped with a 
frequency generator and a zapper.  The two teeth were painful and when I zapped 
them they throbbed seriously for about a minute and then the pain was gone.  I 
used the oregano oil to keep it that way (although it tastes like crap).  The 
two teeth in question were painful to brush with the toothbrush and this 
subsided after the above regime.  When I went to the dentist he drilled out the 
amalgam and I brought my own cs and asked him if he minded if I rinse with that 
instead of his tap water.  He was intrigued and said sure.  After all that he 
put a plastic white filling in and haven't had a problem since then.  The tooth 
was so bad he had to put a band around it to reshape the one tooth, actually 
both teeth.  I am now pain free but the both teeth are wobbling.  I think I'll 
look for a frequency that stimulates bone growth
 and see if my jaw bone will grab those teeth again and stabilize them.  Pain 
free though and still in need of a crown eventually.
  Doris

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Re: CSHello

2007-03-30 Thread Cinder Ella
Hello Rita:
  Not all of us are brain surgeons.  I don't know all the particulars about how 
my machine works, it just does.  I left the design to others.  Did research on 
the internet and purchased a machine from someone who knew what they were 
doing.  I just put the water in, plug it in and it goes.  You can do this as 
well and it will be well worth your while.  If you are going to buy water 
somewhere you are going to pay CRAZY prices for it.  Hope as you continue to 
read you will gain more confidence in yourself to try.  I bought a machine from 
SilverGen and so far am happy.  Knowing that I have all these resources makes 
me breathe a little easier knowing that bugs don't have to scare me anymore.
  Doris

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Re: CSFluoride - for Sandee

2007-03-29 Thread Cinder Ella
I used to get fluoride treatments until I left home and didn't have medical 
coverage thru my parents anymore.  After a few years I got my own medical 
coverage and continued but now I have a different story.  My dentist says on my 
x-rays my bones look healthy and great but I am in the process of having all 
the amalgam fillings removed and plastic put in.  After doing 6 out of 9 
fillings, I noticed that in every one where the mercury has come out of and has 
been replaced, my teeth are wobbling in their sockets!  Does anyone have a clue 
what is happening and how to stop this?  Will drinking cs fix this problem?
  Doris

Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:
  Hi There Pat - from my personal experience and research - when, like you
as a child,
we were given the fluoride treatment which was the rage then - I
understand that the
fluoride is not excreted from the jaw bone after the treatments are over,
yes it does
cut down on the fillings in young teeth, however with age the bone starts
to crumble
which is exactly what has happened to me. Luckily for me I found
Colloidal Silver
as a result, some four years ago now, which with daily use is keeping my
teeth in my 
jaw bone and is stopping further decay/erosion etc., so your dentist is
slightly mistaken
in his conclusions - to put it mildly !
Regards
Sandee

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CSCS and Tooth Regeneration

2007-03-27 Thread Cinder Ella
It has been discussed on this forum that when a finger has been cut off that 
regeneration is possible, especially easier in small children, with CS.  Is the 
same possible with a tooth that has had a cavity drilled out of it?  Can CS 
regenerate a tooth?  Provided the root is still intact and alive?
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Re: CSHello!

2007-03-26 Thread Cinder Ella
Hi Becca, wow Alaska!  I live in Toronto, Ontario.  Do you also have a good 
source of distilled water?  Or a good distiller?  You will need that.  
Personally I don't think you really need to make the cs ppm so high.  I 
personally make about 12 ppm and it does me just fine.  I consume an ounce a 
day.  My aunt in Germany buys  30ml in a dropper bottle at about 100 or more 
ppm and only takes a drop a day.  She swears by that.  So I guess the stronger 
you make it the less you need to take.  I like to drink the distilled water as 
well because it has the ability to detoxify the body as well so an ounce won't 
kill me.  
   
  As for the gallon jar, I use a mayonaise jar as I want it fresh and don't 
want to make too much at once.  I guess you are using the bubbler to keep the 
cs moving to make the batch uniform?  I'm sorry but I don't know all the techno 
stuff.  Perhaps someone else on the list will help me out.
  Doris

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Alaska  have everything I need to make colloidal silver except
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I need to know, how many ppm's should I aim for in the finished product?

Also, I'll be using a gallon jar with a bubbler with 5 flattened wire.
I'm thinking that wire bar isn't long enough to do a good job?

Thanks for all help!
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Re: CSfinding silver distributor

2007-03-19 Thread Cinder Ella
Try going to your local jeweler?
  Doris

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  I was wondering if anyone knows of a Canadian supplier for 99.9, 30 gauge 
silver ribbon. 
   
  Any input would be appreciated.
   
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Re: CSButter, etc.

2007-03-19 Thread Cinder Ella
Do you have BECEL products where you are?  They have non hydrogenated 
margarines made with and without salt and olive oil too?
  Doris

Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:
  I would pay a pretty penny and order from far away if
I could find a non-hydrogenated margarine made from
virgin olive oil.

Does anyone know of such a thing?

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CSCross touching electrodes

2007-03-19 Thread Cinder Ella
I made a batch of silver and accidentally filled the water too high so it was 
touching both electrodes at the top of the lid.  Will this hurt my machine?
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Re: CSButter, etc./Becel Products

2007-03-19 Thread Cinder Ella
Yes I live in Toronto, Canada
  Doris

vwol...@aol.com wrote:
The site says that they can be purchased only in Canada? V.
   
   
   
  In a message dated 3/19/2007 1:34:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mcomfy...@yahoo.ca writes:
Do you have BECEL products where you are?  They have non hydrogenated 
margarines made with and without salt and olive oil too?
  Doris

Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:
  I would pay a pretty penny and order from far away if
I could find a non-hydrogenated margarine made from
virgin olive oil.

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Re: CSpost generation Silver compounds

2007-03-15 Thread Cinder Ella
Maybe put them in your flower pots so they don't get diseased?  I have an aloe 
plant that the soil is building a fungus on and the fungus gnats are 
multiplying in.  It might even make the plant more potent?
  Doris

Max Sanders mazsand...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Is there any use for the accumulated silver powder that I have from these 
years of CS generation? I usually get very little silver (hydroxide? oxide?) 
when I make a batch.  I let it settle and pour off the  bottom into a jar with 
these solids. Anyone have a use for these fluffy solids?

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Re: CSNailfungus and eczeme

2007-03-08 Thread Cinder Ella
Thanks for the info Smitty.  Unfortunately I live up here in good old Canada.  
Wait a minute. did I really say unfortunately?  There's nothing 
unfortunate about being Canadian.
   
  I will look up these things on the web and seek out their meanings.  
  Doris

Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well, the way the woman explained it, she would test my system,
then with the scan machine, it would tell her what I needed to rid
metals and parasites from my body.
Here's the drops she had me take =
Amoebasode
Virasode
Scrophularia
Verma
Artemesia
Some of these are for metals detox  some for parasites. I had marked
the various bottles, but after emptying them  threw them.

What state do you live in ? She gave me a sheet of Naturopaths in
various states. If you are interested, I could forward them to you
for your particular state.

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On 3/7/07, Cinder Ella wrote:
 That's fascinating. When anyone, especially and including a doctor gives me
 something (naturopathic or otherwise) I always wanna know who what when
 where and why. I read food labels and examine everything. It would kill me
 to just take some drops and not know what the heck was in them. Not knowing
 would just about kill me. So do you know what your specific remedy was?
 Im sure the drops had to do with balancing your system but the recipe for
 getting rid of metal would be universal no? (ie cilantro, chlorella etc)
 Doris

 Smitty 
wrote:
 I had fungus under my big toe nails. I went to a naturopath
 and she said I had to clear my body of metals. Sure enough,
 after couple of months using her *drops* the nails grew out,
 and the fungus along with it. I was using CS at the time,
 but didn't put any on the nails.

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Re: CSNailfungus and eczeme

2007-03-07 Thread Cinder Ella
What kind of *DROPS* did she give you to get rid of metals?
  Doris

Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:
  I had fungus under my big toe nails. I went to a naturopath
and she said I had to clear my body of metals. Sure enough,
after couple of months using her *drops* the nails grew out,
and the fungus along with it. I was using CS at the time,
but didn't put any on the nails.

Smitty


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Re: CSNailfungus and eczeme

2007-03-07 Thread Cinder Ella
That's fascinating.  When anyone, especially and including a doctor gives me 
something (naturopathic or otherwise) I always wanna know who what when where 
and why.  I read food labels and examine everything.  It would kill me to just 
take some drops and not know what the heck was in them.  Not knowing would just 
about kill me.  So do you know what your specific remedy was?  Im sure the 
drops had to do with balancing your system but the recipe for getting rid of 
metal would be universal no? (ie cilantro, chlorella etc)
  Doris

Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:
  I had fungus under my big toe nails. I went to a naturopath
and she said I had to clear my body of metals. Sure enough,
after couple of months using her *drops* the nails grew out,
and the fungus along with it. I was using CS at the time,
but didn't put any on the nails.

Smitty


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RE: CSNailfungus and eczeme

2007-03-05 Thread Cinder Ella
What about if you ingest it for fungus/candida/yeast in the blood stream?  Is 
it effective there as well?  Technically if cs gets into the blood it should 
work on the foot fungus from the inside out, although probably at a slower rate?
  Doris

Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}  v\:* {   BEHAVIOR: url 
(#default#vml)  }  Yes it is anti-fungal Doris, but you have to 
*get* it to the fungus i.e. In the nails.  It is better to use DMSO to do this 
as it will take the CS through the nail to where it needs to be.  Dee  
   
  ---Original Message---
   
From: Cinder Ella
  Date: 04/03/2007 20:17:16
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSNailfungus and eczeme

   
  !
   
  One thing I'm a little confused on though and that is, I believe in cs 
without a doubt, but I thought it was anti-viral  anti-bacterial?  Does cs have 
an anti-fungal property as well?  If this is true, that's something new I was 
not aware of.  Any comments from the group?
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Re: CSNailfungus and eczeme

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
Hello Torbjorn:
  My father had nail fungus.  First you should know that this is an outward 
sign of an inside problem.  If you have nail fungus it means that your 
blood/organs are probably already overrun with yeast/candida.  So this is your 
body's way of letting you know there is a bigger problem.  In your diet stay 
away from highly processed foods, carbohydrates, starchy foods like potato, 
rice, breaad, pasta.  
   
  As for the toes, my father bathed his feet every day in water with a tea tree 
oil soap and a brush.  Then he painted his toes with a combination of tea tree 
oil (melaleuca alternifolia) and Lugol's solution (potassium iodide and iodine) 
 The iodine alone will do the trick.  I just like overkill to be safe because 
he said he had this problem for the last 15 years and never told me about it 
until he had prostate cancer and I did his foot care after surgery because he 
couldn't bend.
   
  The fungus will take time to grow out with the nail but if you paint the base 
of the nails with Iodine (Lugol's) when the new nail grows out from the base it 
should be healthy.
  Doris

Torbjörn Granqvist tobbe_6...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Hello !  My name is Torbjörn , lives in sweden I have used cs in one 
month now, It had alredy stoped and cured a few colds for me and family.
  But what i want to know more abaot is how to cure eczeme and nail fungus with 
cs. I have only taked it the inside way. The eczeme i have, got
  much better after abaot 7-10 days but it doesnt dissapeares . can it work 
better with some salve with cs ?.
  Abaot nailfungus i have read abaot a couple of people who had got the fungus 
away. Can it work faster if i dip the nails in the cs water ? if yes
  how long time and how often? I have fungus on all five nails on one of the 
foots and have had it for abaot five years.
  I have read alot on internet abaot cs and it seemes more and more interesting 
the more i read.
  I hope my english can be understod , its abaot 30 years sins i read english 
in scool.
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Re: CSDr. Mann prozac poison

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
Wow, and 20 some odd years ago my doctor put me on Prozac because of the 
reported side effect that it caused weight loss, now you say weight gain?  
Interesting  I was on it for two months and was constantly toe tapping and 
hyped up like a wind up toy.  Couldn't sit still and it drove me nuts.  Now Im 
old enough to know better to stay away from doctors period!  And I'm a nurse!
  Doris
  PS:  Any doctors reading this please don't jump down my throat for my 
comments.  I believe I have a right to my own experiences and feelings about 
them.


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Re: CSNailfungus and eczeme

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
I forgot to mention one thing about my dad's foot soaks.  You can use hydrogen 
peroxide foot baths (3%) and that will eat up the fungus and destroy it leaving 
good skin and nails untouched.  The iodine will discolour your nails but you 
can use white iodine and it won't.  White iodine is not as effective but won't 
discolour.  The iodine might not really feel comfortable but will work and is 
not unhealthy for your skin.
  Doris

Rowena new...@aapt.net.au wrote:
  You could also do a web search on bicarbonate of soda and fungus.
Would there be any problem adding bicarb (baking soda) to CS for a foot 
soak?
R


 Can it work faster if i dip the nails in the cs water ? if yes
 how long time and how often? I have fungus on all five nails on one 
 of the foots and have had it for abaot five years.

 


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RE: CSNailfungus and eczeme

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
Bob, you are 100% right.  Both problems are a sign of a whole body disturbance 
and I would hazard a guess and say if you took your pH via saliva test, you 
would find that you are slightly (or worse yet, very) acidic.  Yeast/candida 
is, if not a contributing factor, one of the main reasons for eczema and 
fungus.  Unfortunately it's not an easy thing to get rid of because once it has 
reached the outward sign stage, it's already pervasive though your body.  I 
know, been there done that and lived with this for too many years.  Even 
dandruff is a sign of yeast overgrowth in the system.  Along with the carbs and 
starches I forgot to mention to Torbjorn to stay away from SUGAR!
   
  One thing I'm a little confused on though and that is, I believe in cs 
without a doubt, but I thought it was anti-viral  anti-bacterial?  Does cs have 
an anti-fungal property as well?  If this is true, that's something new I was 
not aware of.  Any comments from the group?
  Doris

bob Larson bobli...@toadmail.com wrote:
  i've been ingesting home-brew EIS/CS since last september for hep-C 
management, not in outrageous quantities, and it's doing fine for that, and 
surprised me with killing off toenail fungus as well.  i only have the tip of 
the worst formerly thickened deformed nail left to grow out and snip off.
  i've read indications that the fungus (or whatever) behind nail fungus is 
throughout the body, and concentrates heavily in the feet.
  more recently, in the past couple weeks,  i've been using a microelectric 
device to clean my blood and liver, and have added in using a foot bath 
massager with CS added to the water while doing it.  i sometimes put one 
electrode in the footbath and use the other on various body parts.  this works 
well to get current flow through the whole body to the point of the other 
electrode.  i use 6 x 7 inch sponges backed with metal screen for  large 
surface electrodes to zap the liver and other areas, and sometimes put one or 
both on the floor and push the toes right into them.  when using both, the 
current goes throught the legs and lower abdomen mostly from one foot to the 
other.  the CS makes the sponges very conductive, and the current can carry 
silver ions into tissues, including i suppose the nails and into the fungus 
under them to some extent.  adding some DMSO into the picture might make a huge 
difference in that regard also.
  so the silver is effective on nail fungus, the fungus must also be eliminated 
from the whole body, and microcurrents and DMSO can be of aid in getting it 
where needed.  also, the microcurrents kill fungus on it's own...it's a wide 
spectrum pathogen killer also.
   
  you might find CS soaked into some gauze wrapped around the toes inside socks 
for all day wear helpful also.  i spray my shoes with CS also.
   
  check out the yahoogroup microelectricitygermkiller for info on using 
microcurrents, join so you can read into the files area where there's 
everything you need to know to make your own device dirt cheap and quickly, and 
all the instructions for using it safely and effectivelyand there's lots of 
histories of various successful use of microcurrents against all manner of 
problems.
-Original Message-
From: Torbjörn Granqvist [mailto:tobbe_6...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 6:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNailfungus and eczeme


  Hello !  My name is Torbjörn , lives in sweden I have used cs in one month 
now, It had alredy stoped and cured a few colds for me and family.
  But what i want to know more abaot is how to cure eczeme and nail fungus with 
cs. I have only taked it the inside way. The eczeme i have, got
  much better after abaot 7-10 days but it doesnt dissapeares . can it work 
better with some salve with cs ?.
  Abaot nailfungus i have read abaot a couple of people who had got the fungus 
away. Can it work faster if i dip the nails in the cs water ? if yes
  how long time and how often? I have fungus on all five nails on one of the 
foots and have had it for abaot five years.
  I have read alot on internet abaot cs and it seemes more and more interesting 
the more i read.
  I hope my english can be understod , its abaot 30 years sins i read english 
in scool.
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Re: CSWhey

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
Pat, what was the purpose of just buying whey?  Is it for a protein substitute? 
 If so there are many protein shakes on the market that are built around whey.  
If you have a blender and like fruits you could put it in a blender with fruits 
and make a shake?  I have never eaten whey by itself.
  Doris

Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I've ordered whey for my son and myself. How is it used? Neither of us like 
the taste of milk (unless I have chocolate chip cookies). Do you do it in a 
blender or can you just shake it? Mix with water? Can you mix chocolate syrup 
into it? It has to be tasty to someone used to a typical American diet or it 
will just be wasted.

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Re: CSNailfungus and eczeme

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
Yes, you are definitely right.  Thanks for the correction.  Also if you are 
allergic to seafood you may be allergic to iodine?  I guess I should have 
proofread what I sent.  I meant to say the hydrogen peroxide may not be 
comfortable but is not unhealthy for good skin, just fatal to diseased skin.
  Doris
  Sorry folks

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
  Cinder Ella wrote:
The iodine might not
 really feel comfortable but will work and is not unhealthy for your skin.
Unless one is allergic to iodine. Then it is indeed a problem.
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Re: CSRe:LIst server

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
Sure you can save the folder onto your hard drive and burn it onto a CD.

Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:  I was wondering just the other 
day.is there some way the average person can save all this email? I mean 
now that I have 9925 messagesthere's probably no way to open each and put 
them somewhere else to burn onto CD is there? I'd sure hate to lose all this!!!

Pat

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another. I've not had any problems either.
Had this group gone straight to yahoo when the archives went down, it 
would now have had archives for that period anyway. Seems to me that 
would have been a good thing. Lack of any archives at all is a very 
serious problem to me at least. Any possible yahoo problems seem pretty 
insignificant compared to no archives.
I had been saving silverlist posts on my own computer, but just lost 
them all two days ago, while trying to fix problems with Netscape. Sigh.

sol

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CSPrice of CS/EIS

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
This should be a good giggle for everyone here who makes/buys cs/eis.  I was 
talking to my aunt in Germany this morning.  She has been using cs for 10 years 
now and she buys it in a 10ml dropper bottle (for you Americans that's more 
than 1/4 oz but less than 1/2 oz).  She has no idea what the concentration is 
or anything about it at this point.  I asked her and she said she will get the 
info for me.  She pays 27 Euros for this each and every month for the last 10 
years. from her esthetician!!
   
  Yesterday she went to some kind of market and they had colloidal silver at 
only 6 ppm in  500 ml (or half a liter) (I guess that's approx 16 oz in US 
measurement) for  are you ready for 
this. 200 EUROS!!!  I almost fell off the chair!  The woman 
told her to read her brochure and come back next week to buy because she would 
be sorry if she didn't.  Wait.. the funny part is still coming. 
 I told her that compared to what she was paying for the 10 ml this wasn't bad. 
 If she continues to purchase the 10 ml at 27 Euros and there are 50 X 10 ml in 
500 ml, then she would be paying 50 X 27 = 1350.00 Euros for her little bottles 
for the same amount of liquid the other woman is selling at 200 Euros for 500 
ml!  She then corrected me and said the 10 ml lasts her a month at one drop per 
day and the lady told her the 500 ml would only last her 3-4 weeks because she 
had to take such large quantities of it.  Now Im curious to see
 if this 10 ml bottle is 100 ppm or what the heck is in there.  She hasn't 
turned blue or anything.  I told her to hold off and when she comes to visit in 
September I'll give her 4 liters of my home made silver water FOR FREE!  Good 
Lord are there really people out there who are so unscrupulous?
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Re: CSRe:LIst server

2007-03-04 Thread Cinder Ella
I believe you need to save each email individually into a folder and (yes this 
is time consuming but not if you do it as they come in) then drag the entire 
folder into Nero.  That's the burning program I use.  I don't know how to go 
about taking thousands of emails and burning them to a disc.
  Doris

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
  What program are you using to do that? I mean, what program is the 
folder in? What folder?
When I tried to do select all and save in my mail program, all that got 
to the CD was the mail headers. No message content. There was no way to 
save a bunch of emails at once from the mail program to a folder in My 
Documents either, all that produced was email headers also without 
content. I must be doing something wrong, leaving out some critical 
step(s) but I just don't know what.

Since I have Outlook Express on this computer (because it is 
there)though I don't use it for mail, I could possibly import the 
messages to Outlook Exp, and thus they would not be lost if my current 
email program goes south. They'd still be lost if I had a major system 
blowout, though. But that is all I can come up with to do, as I said, 
I'm not computer savvy at all.

I have no idea how to create the archive files Wayne talked about. I 
mean, I wanted to try Gmail, but cannot get my address book (contacts) 
to import into itthere are instructions, but they are unintelligible 
to me. Which brings up...is Gmail safe? doesn't that put a 
person's emails right where the goverment can get to them with no 
trouble? Would google NOT turn over all that info to the government? 
When most phone companies are handing all their phone records over? 
Hmmm.I'm just not sure I want my private (or even my public) 
correspondence on the web where google can give it all up at any time.Si 
this paranoid?

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Re: CStopic of being hot was/now thyroid-adrenals

2007-02-28 Thread Cinder Ella
You may have something there about the fungus.  I used to be worse and now that 
I read your blurb, I recall myself being worse and the turning point was when I 
did a candida cleanse.  After that I felt more like a human being but the 
change was so slow and seamless, it didn't really hit me until now.
  Doris

bs clayton kl_clay...@yahoo.com wrote:
  This is very true. What is more, if you have any kind
of fungal infection, the steroids will cause the mold
to grow out of control, and boy you really don't want
that.

Bioset makes some supportive herb and enzyme
supplements that made a big difference for me, they
don't cause any harm either, and can help a great
deal. They also have a line of vegan products, which
suits me.

I had all those symptoms but they were caused by mold
overgrowth inside my body- after the antifungals,
supplements and probiotics to fix it, all those
bothersome temperature symptoms went away by
themselves.

Kathryn
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I've been treating my thyroid (self treating) for
almost 2-1/2 years 
now. The group Sol mentions below was a life-saver
for me and I still 
recommend it, but there is one thing I would say
differently from them. 
You should be very, very careful about treating your
adrenals. The 
standard medical treatment for it is hydrocortisone,
also recommended 
by What most people don't realize is
that 'treating your thyroid alone', ultimately repairs
your adrenals. If you feel you need additional
support, there are alternative adrenal treatments that
are not addicting and will help without doing any
damage. Raw adrenal extracts or even a short term of
pharmaceutical grade pregnenolone for instance. Both
of which are over the counter or on the internet. I
used pregnenolone and it seemed to do the trick for me.




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Re: CSWater Distilling

2007-02-26 Thread Cinder Ella
I called Genesis this morning and they said that sometimes their filters are 
pressed too tightly and the water doesn't go through it it goes around it.  
They are sending me a new filter in the mail asap but I checked the filter.  I 
don't think this is the problem.  I'll try anything though.  I'll try 
distilling it in to a glass container and see if this makes a difference.  
   
  If I buy distilled water from the store and have to boil it and play with it 
then I still have to send my distillers back and purchase yet another product.  
I will at least try to solve this problem with what I have.
  Doris
  Thanks for the info.

Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com wrote:
  Hey, don't give up hope!  Just take the distilled water from the store and 
boil it in a glassware pot for five minutes or so; remember the old pyrex 
coffee  percolators, they're perfect for it, so are the visionware glass 
pots.  Let it cool and taste-smell  it to make sure the plasticizer is gone, 
then go right ahead and make your CS with that water, the dissolved carbon 
dioxide makes the water just slightly more conductive, that's all; you'll still 
make good CS with it.

BTW, if your tap water tastes ok out of the faucet but plasticky after going 
through the distiller, there's something haywire with the distiller, right?

Take care,  Malcolm

PS:  the product is so expensive in the stores cuz they can get away with 
charging that much to people who didn't get a chemistry education, and so don't 
know how simple it really can be with the right starting ingredients - - Like 
distilled water in 5 gallon glass jugs, f'rinstance, or a simple reverse 
osmosis system under the kitchen sink with a de-ionizer cart.

At 10:45 PM 2/25/07 -0500, you wrote:

  Wow, sounds like I have made a bad investment.  I can't drink the stuff and 
certainly can't make cs out of it for drinking.  Looks like I need to sell them 
or send them back to the makers.  Thanks for the info.  Too much work for the 
end product.  Now I know why cs is so expensive in the stores.  It's not the 
product that costs so much but the hours and hours of processing.
Doris

Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com wrote: 
   Hi Doris, most polyethylene gallon jugs have a plasticizer added to the 
basic material the jug is molded (blown) from, since straight polyethylene is 
rather stiff and brittle, subject to cracking when it's thin.  This plasticizer 
is volatile, meaning a little of it is always outgassing from the parent 
material - chances are that is what you are tasting-smelling.  I do too.  Most 
distillers will drive the plasticizer that's in the water right along with 
boiling off the water itself, and it will be carried over into the distillate.  
In fact this procedure is often used in chemistry as a means of extracting 
purer forms of an oil or other non-water-soluble compound from its original 
mixture.   
   The best way to solve this problem, IMHO, is to shift to a Reverse Osmosis 
filtering system with a de-ionizing cartridge as the final stage; this produces 
lab grade pure water, given quality components in the RO system.  But this is 
also expensive, about $300 I would guess.  Another option would be to boil the 
water you are going to use in an open glassware pot for five minutes or so.  
This will drive off much if not all the plasticizer and also dissolve some 
carbon dioxide (from the air) into the water, which is less than perfect but 
still useable, and probably much better than drinking plasticizer-ized CS.

  
   Take care, Malcolm

  
   At 11:27 AM 2/25/07 -0500, you wrote:


   I was buying distilled water from two different sources and they were in 
plastic containers.  They tasted plasticky as well.  This is the reason I 
invested in a distiller and went through all this trouble.  It's a heck of a 
lot easier to buy the stuff.  Now I'm finding that the distiller is making 
water that tastes as bad as the store bought stuff   
   Doris

  
   Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com wrote:   
   Hi;  I don't know anything about the Genesis 3000, or most others but I'd 
suggest testing your distilled water for it's conductivity among other 
things.  Probably the local high-school chem department has some test gear, and 
certainly any chem teacher could whip something up with a cheap multimeter that 
would give you an idea.  I expect that either there are some metals or plastics 
in the distilling machine that are contaminating the distillate or some other 
source; does it taste significantly different than distilled water bought at 
the grocery store?   
   Take care, Malcolm

  
   At 06:35 PM 2/21/07 -0500, you wrote:


   I have run about 30 loads of water through my distiller and still it has a 
strange taste to it.  Does anyone know how to change the taste so it's H2O?  I 
filter it after with a charcoal filter and still yucky.  I've cleaned it with 
vinegar and there is no buildup or anything.  It's clean as a whistle.  Will 
this taste eventually 

Re: CSSkin Tag Success

2007-02-26 Thread Cinder Ella
I've been reading the DMSO stuff on this site but haven't really absorbed any 
of it.  I don't know where to get it and I'm not prepared to add yet another 
thing into my brain right now.  I have my Rife machine, my cs maker, my 
distillers that won't make good tasting water and I'm looking into a Guardian.  
I'm on a liver cleanse and looking at metal detox and removing all my mercury 
fillings in my teeth and am just a little overwhelmed by stuff right now.  Oh 
yeah and my grandmother needs to go into a home because she's going nuts and my 
mother is crying all over me.  Right now I can only absorb so much and am not 
prepared to go into the DMSO subject but thanks for the advice.  I'm archiving 
my own wanted emails such as this one for a later date when I am ready.
  Doris

Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
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(#default#vml)  }  What about mixing it with a DMSO gel?  Dee  
   
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  Subject: CSSkin Tag Success

   
   So it would seem they are perhaps viral/bacterial in origin and now I have 
to find a way to use cs on them to see if that has the same effect.  If anyone 
out there tries this and is successful, please share with the group.
   
  Guess I would have to soak a bandaid and leave it there for a while.  
Depending on the location that could be inconvenient.
  Doris

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