Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Daniel]

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she
had just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow
the "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the
Preferences. I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was
properly set.

Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a
good house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.

Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?

Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from
Verizon to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?

Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?

I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this
problem.  Please understand, while preparing your response to my call
for help, that my technical skill are limited at best.

Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated.


Frog, is it possible that you recently moved your e-mail account data
from one computer to another using CD's?? If so, this usually results in
the files being marked as "Read Only" so SM, logically, is unable to
write to those files.


Yes, my inbox files have been routinely moved from my older computers to 
newer ones...starting from the old Netscape days to today.  This is what 
caused me to think it was a good time to do a royal house cleaning of my 
Inbox...a very time consuming process to say the least.  I still believe 
it should be possible to re-designate my present Inbox message folder to 
"Old" and open a new folder.  Is it possible to take this type of action 
and how do I do this?  I think the process I am following now will be 
complete some time around my 100th birthday.


In Windows Explorer, locate your e-mail account and right click on one
of the files/folders and check its Properties is not set to "Read Only".


I was moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some months ago...I now 
understand that Windows Explorer in now File Explorer.  If so, I am not 
sure how to get to get to my e-mail account to click on one of the 
files/folders.  I can go to File Explorer and can find Inbox listed 
there...but I can't figure out how to enter the Inbox to see 
incoming/outgoing etc. under this heading like I once could under 
Windows Explorer.  I think that the messages are not Read Only, however, 
as they appear as a mixture of Read and Not Read in SeaMonkey when I am 
in am using the Inbox.  In any event, I was unable to follow the Windows 
Explorer path you suggested.


Hello Daniel...it has been some time since our last contact.  I'm sorry 
that I didn't reply to your message sooner.  It seems that I need 
multiples of me in order to keep up with my responsibilities right now. 
I hope things will settle down somewhat after the start of the new 
year...I certainly hope that will be the case.


Frog

Frog, what you might need to do is set yourself up with several folders 
in your e-mail account. I normally have my Inbox, a Family folder, a 
Church folder, a Mozilla folder (for these groups), a Usenet folder (for 
my UseNet posts), a Genealogy folder, ... etc., etc. These should all be 
created by SeaMonkey at the same level as your Inbox.


These can be set up, in SeaMonkey, by selecting your e-mail account then 
selecting File->New->Folder and call it something you understand. Do 
this as many times as you need. Then drag and drop your e-mails into the 
appropriate (new) box.


I then go one step further and create an "Archives" folder under my 
"Local Folders" account with a sub-folder for 2017, etc., and "Drag & 
Drop" the folders from the e-mail account to the "2017" folder on or 
about 1st Jan. SeaMonkey then creates a new Inbox in the e-mail account 
when you re-start SeaMonkey, but you will need to re-create the other 
folders.


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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Ray_Net]

Frog wrote on 14-12-17 19:33:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Frog wrote:


Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?


Create a new folder, name it something like 'Inbox, needs attention' --
then move all the messages in the regular inbox to this new folder. This
may take some time, but it will clear your regular inbox.



Thanks Bill for your reply to my message.

I presently am going message by message to remove those I don't think 
I need to keep.  It would save a lot of time to simply create a new 
folder under Local Folders for the messages presently located in my 
Inbox...thus, I could simply move each message to this folder without 
having to read it first before making a decision (based on content) to 
either delete or keep a message. Am I likely to hit another computer 
generated message that a folder under Local Folders is Full?


Sorry for my delay in responding to your message...it was much 
appreciated.


Frog



Don't forget to "Compact this folder" to gain space.
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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Frog]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Frog wrote:


Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?


Create a new folder, name it something like 'Inbox, needs attention' --
then move all the messages in the regular inbox to this new folder. This
may take some time, but it will clear your regular inbox.



Thanks Bill for your reply to my message.

I presently am going message by message to remove those I don't think I 
need to keep.  It would save a lot of time to simply create a new folder 
under Local Folders for the messages presently located in my 
Inbox...thus, I could simply move each message to this folder without 
having to read it first before making a decision (based on content) to 
either delete or keep a message. Am I likely to hit another computer 
generated message that a folder under Local Folders is Full?


Sorry for my delay in responding to your message...it was much appreciated.

Frog


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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Frog]

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she
had just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow
the "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the
Preferences. I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was
properly set.

Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a
good house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.

Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?

Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from
Verizon to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?

Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?

I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this
problem.  Please understand, while preparing your response to my call
for help, that my technical skill are limited at best.

Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated.

Frog


Frog, is it possible that you recently moved your e-mail account data
from one computer to another using CD's?? If so, this usually results in
the files being marked as "Read Only" so SM, logically, is unable to
write to those files.


Yes, my inbox files have been routinely moved from my older computers to 
newer ones...starting from the old Netscape days to today.  This is what 
caused me to think it was a good time to do a royal house cleaning of my 
Inbox...a very time consuming process to say the least.  I still believe 
it should be possible to re-designate my present Inbox message folder to 
"Old" and open a new folder.  Is it possible to take this type of action 
and how do I do this?  I think the process I am following now will be 
complete some time around my 100th birthday.


In Windows Explorer, locate your e-mail account and right click on one
of the files/folders and check its Properties is not set to "Read Only".


I was moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some months ago...I now 
understand that Windows Explorer in now File Explorer.  If so, I am not 
sure how to get to get to my e-mail account to click on one of the 
files/folders.  I can go to File Explorer and can find Inbox listed 
there...but I can't figure out how to enter the Inbox to see 
incoming/outgoing etc. under this heading like I once could under 
Windows Explorer.  I think that the messages are not Read Only, however, 
as they appear as a mixture of Read and Not Read in SeaMonkey when I am 
in am using the Inbox.  In any event, I was unable to follow the Windows 
Explorer path you suggested.




Hello Daniel...it has been some time since our last contact.  I'm sorry 
that I didn't reply to your message sooner.  It seems that I need 
multiples of me in order to keep up with my responsibilities right now. 
I hope things will settle down somewhat after the start of the new 
year...I certainly hope that will be the case.


Frog


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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Frog]

Felix Miata wrote:

Frog composed on 2017-12-12 01:17 (UTC-0500):


My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had
just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow the
"leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences.
I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set.



Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good
house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.



Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?


I don't think so, unless disk space is exhausted where inbox lives.


Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon
to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?


I have to think it could well be related. Many individual spams are getting
awfully big. AOL's inbox space might not be big enough to hold messages for the
specified length of time. If she's leaving messages on server for 30 days, try
cutting back to 10 or 14. Check with AOL if inbox size can be increased.

If none are being left on server yet AOL inbox is full, something must be wrong
either with SM or AOL.

I have two POP mail accounts, one set to leave on server 11 days, the other 25.
The one set to 11 is using about 25MB. The one set to 25 is only using about
5MB, but I just reduced it from around 37MB by deleting all emails 3 digits
large, which were running e.g. 159, 164, 241 & 316 KB.

How often does she compact folders? I do it daily. If she never does, maybe
doing it is overdue, especially if triple digit spams have been routinely
reaching it.

Thanks Felix for your reply.  I do check my mail several times a day so 
I don't think the build-up is located at AOL. As I stated earlier, my 
preferences are set to remove my messages from my ISP when they are 
downloaded to my computer.  I have resolved that my problem must have to 
do with the volume of messages stored in my Inbox...thus, I am now in 
the throws of doing a thorough house cleaning of my Inbox.  I hope this 
going to solve my problem.


Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this subject...I have been 
involved with Christmas shopping (wife is handicapped)...church 
activities...and undergoing a complete physical...among other seasonal 
activities.


Frog
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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Bill Spikowski]

Frog wrote:


Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?


Create a new folder, name it something like 'Inbox, needs attention' -- then 
move all the messages in the regular inbox to this new folder. This may take 
some time, but it will clear your regular inbox.
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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Daniel]

Frog wrote:
My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had 
just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow the 
"leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences. 
I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set.


Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good 
house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.


Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?

Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon 
to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?


Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to be 
accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?


What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present 
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?


I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this 
problem.  Please understand, while preparing your response to my call 
for help, that my technical skill are limited at best.


Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated.

Frog


Frog, is it possible that you recently moved your e-mail account data 
from one computer to another using CD's?? If so, this usually results in 
the files being marked as "Read Only" so SM, logically, is unable to 
write to those files.


In Windows Explorer, locate your e-mail account and right click on one 
of the files/folders and check its Properties is not set to "Read Only".


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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Felix Miata]

Frog composed on 2017-12-12 01:17 (UTC-0500):

> My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had 
> just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow the 
> "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences. 
> I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set.

> Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good 
> house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.

> Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?   

I don't think so, unless disk space is exhausted where inbox lives.

> Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon 
> to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?   

I have to think it could well be related. Many individual spams are getting
awfully big. AOL's inbox space might not be big enough to hold messages for the
specified length of time. If she's leaving messages on server for 30 days, try
cutting back to 10 or 14. Check with AOL if inbox size can be increased.

If none are being left on server yet AOL inbox is full, something must be wrong
either with SM or AOL.

I have two POP mail accounts, one set to leave on server 11 days, the other 25.
The one set to 11 is using about 25MB. The one set to 25 is only using about
5MB, but I just reduced it from around 37MB by deleting all emails 3 digits
large, which were running e.g. 159, 164, 241 & 316 KB.

How often does she compact folders? I do it daily. If she never does, maybe
doing it is overdue, especially if triple digit spams have been routinely
reaching it.
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Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Frog]

My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had 
just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow the 
"leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences. 
I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set.


Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good 
house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.


Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?

Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon 
to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?


Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to be 
accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?


What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present 
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?


I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this 
problem.  Please understand, while preparing your response to my call 
for help, that my technical skill are limited at best.


Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated.

Frog
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Re: AOL Sending (Again) Challenges SM 2.46 Win 10 Pro

[GérardJan]

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

Back with similar challenge as per my earlier post about AOL mail...

I now receive the following message:

The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server (SMTP)
smtp.aol.com was lost in the middle of the transaction. Try again.



I do believe my outgoing server settings are correct (or are they):

Server Name: smtp.aol.com
Port: 587
User Name: bo1953 @ V. net
Authentication Method: Normal password
Connection Security: SSL/TLS


Connection Security should be: STARTTLS



Thoughts, suggestions, input - please.

TIA - bo1953


sincerely,
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Re: Using 2.46. Is 2.48 quite stable now ?

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On 10/28/2017 10:22 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

Title says it all


V2.48 seems stable enough for me. :)
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Re: Using 2.46. Is 2.48 quite stable now ?

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DoctorBill wrote:

Title says it all


2.48 breaks authentication with Google Calendar using ReminderFox. Tried 
several times but had to revert back. Have not found an alternative for 
ReminderFox with features that works as well. Hoping authors find a fix 
for next version



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Re: Using 2.46. Is 2.48 quite stable now ?

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On 10/28/17 1:22 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Title says it all

DoctorBill


I guess so, 2.49.1 is available but not officially released yet.

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Using 2.46. Is 2.48 quite stable now ?

[DoctorBill]

Title says it all

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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[ILJA SHEBALIN]

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:24 AM, Paul B. Gallagher <
pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com> wrote:

> ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:
>
> You may as well use English. I'm perfectly fine with that.
>>
>
> No criticism intended; from what I can see (as a native speaker and a
> translator/editor with over 30 years' experience) your English is very
> natural. We all make mistakes, but it's probably better than my Russian,
> which is more passive than active.
>
> As a native speaker and not a translator/editor my Russian is natural
>> either. I guess translators/editors are a very specific casta the rest of
>> society can never keep up with.
>
> You may be right. But keep monitoring this thread in case someone else has
> an answer.

Doubt that.



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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

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ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:


You may as well use English. I'm perfectly fine with that.


No criticism intended; from what I can see (as a native speaker and a 
translator/editor with over 30 years' experience) your English is very 
natural. We all make mistakes, but it's probably better than my Russian, 
which is more passive than active.


At any rate...


As for the reply scheme I'm forced to use Gmail's rather confusing UI
to respond write now instead of my mail client I usually stick to,
hence that missing on my part.


I don't like webmails, either, so I use POP mail for my Gmail account 
(you have to change one of Google's settings to allow it, but it's doable).



My last comment was about use of plain text and HTML which could play
a part in emerging of the issue. I said it persisted even if
composing was set to HTML. I believe there's no solution.


You may be right. But keep monitoring this thread in case someone else 
has an answer.


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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[ILJA SHEBALIN]

You may as well use English. I'm perfectly fine with that. As for the
 reply scheme I'm forced to use Gmail's rather confusig UI to respond write
now instead of my mail client I usually stick to, hence that missing on my
part. My last comment was about use of plain text andHTML which could play
a part in emerging of the issue. I said it persisted even if composing was
set to HTML. I believe there's no solution.

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Paul B. Gallagher <
pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com> wrote:

> ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:
>
> I use HTML.
>>
>
> Между прочим на этом форуме пишем ответы после цитируемого материала. КВС.
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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[Paul B. Gallagher]

ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:


I use HTML.


Между прочим на этом форуме пишем ответы после цитируемого материала. КВС.

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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[ILJA SHEBALIN]

I use HTML.

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 10:32 PM, EE <nu...@bees.wax> wrote:

> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>
>> ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:
>>
>> It seems screenshots get removed automatically. You're correct but
>>> that means that in both cases my chosen font shows up as PT Sans, yet
>>> I see the default. In the drop down menu window in undisclosed mode
>>> it alternates between serif PT Sans and PT Sans as I type with the
>>> former eventually overriding the latter but visually none of these is
>>> PT Sans. It's rather perplexing. I have firefox reader extension
>>> installed (Safari 5-like Reader) but despite Trebuchet MS set as the
>>> font for text to be displayed I see the default (Courier?) font. All
>>> settings - both UI and geeky - have Trebuchet MS of which neither is
>>> effective when activating the extension. I safe-relaunched SM to no
>>> avail. Now in Apple Mail I type in PT Sans font and there's no issues
>>> as to how do I change fonts. It seems fonts are broken in Seamonkey
>>> since in every shape of settings values are set correctly but they
>>> don't take effect.
>>>
>>
>> I understand what you're saying, and I sympathize, but that hasn't been
>> my experience. What I say is what I get. I'm on 2.46 for Windows; that may
>> make a difference.
>>
>> It may also make a difference if you use HTML for composition rather than
> plain text.  I use plain text.
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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:


It seems screenshots get removed automatically. You're correct but
that means that in both cases my chosen font shows up as PT Sans, yet
I see the default. In the drop down menu window in undisclosed mode
it alternates between serif PT Sans and PT Sans as I type with the
former eventually overriding the latter but visually none of these is
PT Sans. It's rather perplexing. I have firefox reader extension
installed (Safari 5-like Reader) but despite Trebuchet MS set as the
font for text to be displayed I see the default (Courier?) font. All
settings - both UI and geeky - have Trebuchet MS of which neither is
effective when activating the extension. I safe-relaunched SM to no
avail. Now in Apple Mail I type in PT Sans font and there's no issues
as to how do I change fonts. It seems fonts are broken in Seamonkey
since in every shape of settings values are set correctly but they
don't take effect.


I understand what you're saying, and I sympathize, but that hasn't been 
my experience. What I say is what I get. I'm on 2.46 for Windows; that 
may make a difference.


It may also make a difference if you use HTML for composition rather 
than plain text.  I use plain text.


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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[Paul B. Gallagher]

ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:


It seems screenshots get removed automatically. You're correct but
that means that in both cases my chosen font shows up as PT Sans, yet
I see the default. In the drop down menu window in undisclosed mode
it alternates between serif PT Sans and PT Sans as I type with the
former eventually overriding the latter but visually none of these is
PT Sans. It's rather perplexing. I have firefox reader extension
installed (Safari 5-like Reader) but despite Trebuchet MS set as the
font for text to be displayed I see the default (Courier?) font. All
settings - both UI and geeky - have Trebuchet MS of which neither is
effective when activating the extension. I safe-relaunched SM to no
avail. Now in Apple Mail I type in PT Sans font and there's no issues
as to how do I change fonts. It seems fonts are broken in Seamonkey
since in every shape of settings values are set correctly but they
don't take effect.


I understand what you're saying, and I sympathize, but that hasn't been 
my experience. What I say is what I get. I'm on 2.46 for Windows; that 
may make a difference.


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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[Felix Miata]

ILJA SHEBALIN composed on 2017-08-27 01:20 (UTC+0300):

> It seems screenshots get removed automatically
You can post it to https://pastebin.mozilla.org/ or your personal web space or
any other pastebin, then post the link here. Mailing list archives don't need
binary attachments that become obsolete shortly after creation, and bloat
mailing list subscriber's email accounts. Most newsgroups whose purpose is not
sharing binaries reject binary attachments.
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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[ILJA SHEBALIN]

It seems screenshots get removed automatically. You're correct but that means 
that in both cases my chosen font shows up as PT Sans, yet I see the default. 
In the drop down menu window in undisclosed mode it alternates between serif PT 
Sans and PT Sans as I type with the former eventually overriding the latter but 
visually none of these is PT Sans. It's rather perplexing. I have firefox 
reader extension installed (Safari 5-like Reader) but despite Trebuchet MS set 
as the font for text to be displayed I see the default (Courier?) font. All 
settings - both UI and geeky - have Trebuchet MS of which neither is effective 
when activating the extension. I safe-relaunched SM to no avail. Now in Apple 
Mail I type in PT Sans font and there's no issues as to how do I change fonts. 
It seems fonts are broken in Seamonkey since in every shape of settings values 
are set correctly but they don't take effect.
26.08.2017, в 23:21, Paul B. Gallagher написал(а):

> ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:
> 
>> The settings are the same as tuned up per UI controls. See the
>> screenshot:
> 
> No screenshot here, but yes.
> 
> msgcompose.font_face corresponds to the setting at Edit | Preferences | Mail 
> & Newsgroups | Composition | Defaults for HTML messages | Font:
> The default is "Variable Width."
> 
> msgcompose.font_size corresponds to the setting at Edit | Preferences | Mail 
> & Newsgroups | Composition | Defaults for HTML messages | Size:
> The default is "medium."
> 
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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[ILJA SHEBALIN]

26.08.2017, в 23:46, ILJA SHEBALIN написал(а):

> It seems screenshots get removed automatically. You're correct but that means 
> that in both cases my chosen font shows up as PT Sans, yet I see the default. 
> In the drop down menu window in undisclosed mode it alternates between serif 
> PT Sans and PT Sans as I type with the former eventually overriding the 
> latter but visually none of these is PT Sans. It's rather perplexing. I have 
> firefox reader extension installed (Safari 5-like Reader) but despite 
> Trebuchet MS set as the font for text to be displayed I see the default 
> (Courier?) font. All settings - both UI and geeky - have Trebuchet MS of 
> which neither is effective when activating the extension. I safe-relaunched 
> SM to no avail. Now in Apple Mail I type in PT Sans font and there's no 
> issues as to how do I change fonts. It seems fonts are broken in Seamonkey 
> since in every shape of settings values are set correctly but they don't take 
> effect.
> 26.08.2017, в 23:21, Paul B. Gallagher написал(а):
> 
>> ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:
>> 
>>> The settings are the same as tuned up per UI controls. See the
>>> screenshot:
>> 
>> No screenshot here, but yes.
>> 
>> msgcompose.font_face corresponds to the setting at Edit | Preferences | Mail 
>> & Newsgroups | Composition | Defaults for HTML messages | Font:
>> The default is "Variable Width."
>> 
>> msgcompose.font_size corresponds to the setting at Edit | Preferences | Mail 
>> & Newsgroups | Composition | Defaults for HTML messages | Size:
>> The default is "medium."
>> 
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>> --
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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[Paul B. Gallagher]

ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:


The settings are the same as tuned up per UI controls. See the
screenshot:


No screenshot here, but yes.

msgcompose.font_face corresponds to the setting at Edit | Preferences | 
Mail & Newsgroups | Composition | Defaults for HTML messages | Font:

The default is "Variable Width."

msgcompose.font_size corresponds to the setting at Edit | Preferences | 
Mail & Newsgroups | Composition | Defaults for HTML messages | Size:

The default is "medium."

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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[ILJA SHEBALIN]

The settings are the same as tuned up per UI controls. See the screenshot:

26.08.2017, в 21:03, EE написал(а):

> ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Help me, please. I was composing a mail message and suddenly found that no 
>> matter how many times I would select a font I desire from the dropdown menu 
>> in the composer window it would stick to the default font. More confusing is 
>> that (having been using Apple Mail a problem like that with simple changing 
>> fonts appears uncomfortable at best) even if I choose PT Sans, for example, 
>> then it would show serif, PT Sans selected but visibly it's the same default 
>> ugly Times New Roman (or whatever similarly looking font is set as the 
>> default). I checked settings (Compose and Address), I set the font to PT 
>> Sans, HTML formatting, still no change. How could I fix it? Or is it a bug?
>> A YouTube link to view the screen video-capture:
>> https://youtu.be/y57GNFOGmqc
>> Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac is the latest available version for my OS X (10.7.5, 
>> codename "Lion").
>> Sincerely Yours,
>> Ilya Shebalin
>> E-mail: iljashebal...@gmail.com,
>>ilja.sheba...@icloud.com
> In order to change the font used in Compose, I changed that in about:config.  
> The settings are in msgcompose.font_face and msgcompose.font_size.
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Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[EE]

ILJA SHEBALIN wrote:

Hello,
Help me, please. I was composing a mail message and suddenly found that no 
matter how many times I would select a font I desire from the dropdown menu in 
the composer window it would stick to the default font. More confusing is that 
(having been using Apple Mail a problem like that with simple changing fonts 
appears uncomfortable at best) even if I choose PT Sans, for example, then it 
would show serif, PT Sans selected but visibly it's the same default ugly Times 
New Roman (or whatever similarly looking font is set as the default). I checked 
settings (Compose and Address), I set the font to PT Sans, HTML formatting, 
still no change. How could I fix it? Or is it a bug?

A YouTube link to view the screen video-capture:
https://youtu.be/y57GNFOGmqc
Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac is the latest available version for my OS X (10.7.5, codename 
"Lion").

Sincerely Yours,
Ilya Shebalin
E-mail: iljashebal...@gmail.com,
ilja.sheba...@icloud.com



In order to change the font used in Compose, I changed that in 
about:config.  The settings are in msgcompose.font_face and 
msgcompose.font_size.


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Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac

[ILJA SHEBALIN]

Hello, 
Help me, please. I was composing a mail message and suddenly found that no 
matter how many times I would select a font I desire from the dropdown menu in 
the composer window it would stick to the default font. More confusing is that 
(having been using Apple Mail a problem like that with simple changing fonts 
appears uncomfortable at best) even if I choose PT Sans, for example, then it 
would show serif, PT Sans selected but visibly it's the same default ugly Times 
New Roman (or whatever similarly looking font is set as the default). I checked 
settings (Compose and Address), I set the font to PT Sans, HTML formatting, 
still no change. How could I fix it? Or is it a bug?

A YouTube link to view the screen video-capture:
https://youtu.be/y57GNFOGmqc
Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac is the latest available version for my OS X (10.7.5, 
codename "Lion").

Sincerely Yours,
Ilya Shebalin
E-mail: iljashebal...@gmail.com,
   ilja.sheba...@icloud.com 



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Re: Constantly Waiting 2.46

[rickman]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 8/12/2017 9:09 PM:

rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 8/12/2017 4:24 PM:

There are times when the cursor turns to an hour glass and the
status bar shows the stripe of green like it is loading a message
or something similar, but nothing appears to be going on.  The
status line will read "news.mozilla.org: There are no messages on
the server".

Any ideas or is this another of the many Seamonkey bugs we live
with?


I forgot to mention that the only way to end this problem is to kill
the program and restart it.  Then it doesn't happen for a while.


I'm getting this, too, usually if SM gets messages in background while
running mlb gameday. CPU sticks at 25% (I have four processors, so it seems
to be maxing one of them out), and RAM is two or three gigs, far more than
usual. The screen pales, and the spinning ring persists for five or ten
minutes or until I give up and force a shutdown.

After I force it to close, the first thing I do on restart is clear private
data, including cache and cookies. Then I do a normal program shutdown and
restart, and it's good for awhile, until I have another game to "watch."


Not quite the same for me.  I don't see any undue CPU, memory or disk 
usages.  The program continues to function (well, as good as it ever does). 
It just won't get rid of the hourglass.  This time it started not long after 
I restarted the program.


The hourglass goes away over the titlebar or in the composition window.  I 
also don't see it in the browser window, just the mail/newsgroups window. 
Also, every once in a while it will go away, but as soon as I move the mouse 
it returns.


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Re: Constantly Waiting 2.46

[Paul B. Gallagher]

rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 8/12/2017 4:24 PM:

There are times when the cursor turns to an hour glass and the
status bar shows the stripe of green like it is loading a message
or something similar, but nothing appears to be going on.  The
status line will read "news.mozilla.org: There are no messages on
the server".

Any ideas or is this another of the many Seamonkey bugs we live
with?


I forgot to mention that the only way to end this problem is to kill
the program and restart it.  Then it doesn't happen for a while.


I'm getting this, too, usually if SM gets messages in background while 
running mlb gameday. CPU sticks at 25% (I have four processors, so it 
seems to be maxing one of them out), and RAM is two or three gigs, far 
more than usual. The screen pales, and the spinning ring persists for 
five or ten minutes or until I give up and force a shutdown.


After I force it to close, the first thing I do on restart is clear 
private data, including cache and cookies. Then I do a normal program 
shutdown and restart, and it's good for awhile, until I have another 
game to "watch."


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Re: Constantly Waiting 2.46

[rickman]

rickman wrote on 8/12/2017 4:24 PM:

There are times when the cursor turns to an hour glass and the status bar
shows the stripe of green like it is loading a message or something similar,
but nothing appears to be going on.  The status line will read
"news.mozilla.org: There are no messages on the server".

Any ideas or is this another of the many Seamonkey bugs we live with?


I forgot to mention that the only way to end this problem is to kill the 
program and restart it.  Then it doesn't happen for a while.


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Constantly Waiting 2.46

[rickman]

There are times when the cursor turns to an hour glass and the status bar 
shows the stripe of green like it is loading a message or something similar, 
but nothing appears to be going on.  The status line will read 
"news.mozilla.org: There are no messages on the server".


Any ideas or is this another of the many Seamonkey bugs we live with?

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Re: 2.46 crash

[BERTRAND Joël]

Frank-Rainer Grahl a écrit :

Bug is marked fixed for (unreleased) 2.47. Might be fixed in 2.48:


OK. I'm trying.

Regards,

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Re: 2.46 crash

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Bug is marked fixed for (unreleased) 2.47. Might be fixed in 2.48:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1276853

Please try this one.

FRG

BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Mason83 a écrit :

On 05/08/2017 10:17, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Hello,

I use seamonkey for a long time and on one of my workstations, it often
crashes since 2.40 if I remember) with following trace in terminal :

ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by
environment.
1501866871483   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for
mod...@themes.mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1501866871509   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for
{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property
1501866871517   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for
langpack...@seamonkey.mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
[aac @ 0x7f38320ab000] illegal icc
Assertion failure: !mDoingStableStates, at
/builds/slave/rel-c-rel-lnx64-bld/build/mozilla/xpcom/base/CycleCollectedJSRuntime.cpp:1312 


#01: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x1173eec]
#02: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0xcbfa2d]
#03: NS_InvokeByIndex[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0xcc69fb]
#04: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x117fca3]
#05: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x11875fb]
#06: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4bd0b]
#07: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d3e2e7]
#08: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4ba4d]
#09: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4bc69]
#10: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2fc5d75]
#11: ??? (???:???)
ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 20779
ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...

This workstation runs Linux Debian testing (amd64). I have other debian
system in the same configuration that don't trigger the same issue.

I have tested binaries from mozilla ftp, binaries from ubuntu and I
have tried to build seamonkey from sources. I always obtain the same bug.

All idea to fix this issue will be welcome.






 Best regards,

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Re: 2.46 crash

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Mason83 a écrit :

On 05/08/2017 10:17, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Hello,

I use seamonkey for a long time and on one of my workstations, it often
crashes since 2.40 if I remember) with following trace in terminal :

ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by
environment.
1501866871483   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for
mod...@themes.mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1501866871509   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for
{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property
1501866871517   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for
langpack...@seamonkey.mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
[aac @ 0x7f38320ab000] illegal icc
Assertion failure: !mDoingStableStates, at
/builds/slave/rel-c-rel-lnx64-bld/build/mozilla/xpcom/base/CycleCollectedJSRuntime.cpp:1312
#01: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x1173eec]
#02: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0xcbfa2d]
#03: NS_InvokeByIndex[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0xcc69fb]
#04: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x117fca3]
#05: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x11875fb]
#06: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4bd0b]
#07: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d3e2e7]
#08: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4ba4d]
#09: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4bc69]
#10: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2fc5d75]
#11: ??? (???:???)
ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 20779
ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...

This workstation runs Linux Debian testing (amd64). I have other debian
system in the same configuration that don't trigger the same issue.

I have tested binaries from mozilla ftp, binaries from ubuntu and I
have tried to build seamonkey from sources. I always obtain the same bug.

All idea to fix this issue will be welcome.


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Re: 2.46 crash

[Mason83]

On 05/08/2017 10:17, BERTRAND Joël wrote:
>   Hello,
> 
>   I use seamonkey for a long time and on one of my workstations, it often 
> crashes since 2.40 if I remember) with following trace in terminal :
> 
> ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by 
> environment.
> 1501866871483   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
> mod...@themes.mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
> 1501866871509   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
> {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property
> 1501866871517   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
> langpack...@seamonkey.mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
> [aac @ 0x7f38320ab000] illegal icc
> Assertion failure: !mDoingStableStates, at 
> /builds/slave/rel-c-rel-lnx64-bld/build/mozilla/xpcom/base/CycleCollectedJSRuntime.cpp:1312
> #01: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x1173eec]
> #02: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0xcbfa2d]
> #03: NS_InvokeByIndex[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0xcc69fb]
> #04: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x117fca3]
> #05: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x11875fb]
> #06: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4bd0b]
> #07: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d3e2e7]
> #08: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4ba4d]
> #09: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4bc69]
> #10: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2fc5d75]
> #11: ??? (???:???)
> ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 20779
> ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
> ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...
> 
>   This workstation runs Linux Debian testing (amd64). I have other debian 
> system in the same configuration that don't trigger the same issue.
> 
>   I have tested binaries from mozilla ftp, binaries from ubuntu and I 
> have tried to build seamonkey from sources. I always obtain the same bug.
> 
>   All idea to fix this issue will be welcome.

Type about:crashes in the URL bar.
Copy/paste the contents here.

Note that 2.48 has been released. It might be worth
upgrading to that version.

And Adrian Kalla has even released unofficial 2.49.1
builds, which may have fixed the issue (or not).

@FRG: are Adrian's builds available somewhere else?

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2.46 crash

[BERTRAND Joël]

Hello,

	I use seamonkey for a long time and on one of my workstations, it often 
crashes since 2.40 if I remember) with following trace in terminal :


ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by 
environment.
1501866871483   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
mod...@themes.mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1501866871509   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property
1501866871517   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
langpack...@seamonkey.mozilla.org did not contain an updates property

[aac @ 0x7f38320ab000] illegal icc
Assertion failure: !mDoingStableStates, at 
/builds/slave/rel-c-rel-lnx64-bld/build/mozilla/xpcom/base/CycleCollectedJSRuntime.cpp:1312

#01: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x1173eec]
#02: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0xcbfa2d]
#03: NS_InvokeByIndex[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0xcc69fb]
#04: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x117fca3]
#05: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x11875fb]
#06: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4bd0b]
#07: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d3e2e7]
#08: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4ba4d]
#09: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2d4bc69]
#10: ???[/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so +0x2fc5d75]
#11: ??? (???:???)
ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 20779
ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...

	This workstation runs Linux Debian testing (amd64). I have other debian 
system in the same configuration that don't trigger the same issue.


	I have tested binaries from mozilla ftp, binaries from ubuntu and I 
have tried to build seamonkey from sources. I always obtain the same bug.


All idea to fix this issue will be welcome.

Best regards,

JKB
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 keeps asking for security certificates

[David Guymer]

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 7/30/2017 5:16 AM, David Guymer wrote:

SeaMonkey has started asking for security certificates or not displaying
pages for all websites.

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling SeaMonkey with the same
result.

I am running Windows 10 Insider preview 16251.

Is the a known SeaMonkey problem or is it more likely related to the
Insider Preview?

David G


I had a similar problem where my Kaspersky program interfered with
display of all sites with "https" URL's.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/K6gMNd17lwQ


Lem Johnson

Adding a certificate for Kaspersky fixed the problem.

Thanks

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 keeps asking for security certificates

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 7/30/2017 5:16 AM, David Guymer wrote:

SeaMonkey has started asking for security certificates or not displaying
pages for all websites.

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling SeaMonkey with the same result.

I am running Windows 10 Insider preview 16251.

Is the a known SeaMonkey problem or is it more likely related to the
Insider Preview?

David G


I had a similar problem where my Kaspersky program interfered with 
display of all sites with "https" URL's.


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/K6gMNd17lwQ

Lem Johnson
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 keeps asking for security certificates

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/30/17 at 6:16 AM, David Guymer created this epitome of digital genius:
SeaMonkey has started asking for security certificates or not displaying 
pages for all websites.


I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling SeaMonkey with the same result.

I am running Windows 10 Insider preview 16251.

Is the a known SeaMonkey problem or is it more likely related to the 
Insider Preview?


David G


Try Safe Mode and/or a new profile.

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SeaMonkey 2.46 keeps asking for security certificates

[David Guymer]

SeaMonkey has started asking for security certificates or not displaying 
pages for all websites.


I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling SeaMonkey with the same result.

I am running Windows 10 Insider preview 16251.

Is the a known SeaMonkey problem or is it more likely related to the 
Insider Preview?


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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[WaltS48]

On 7/26/17 7:28 PM, Gabriel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 25/07/17 09:45:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/



Hello,

what's the mozharness.zip file?



What is a search engine?

Something that finds 



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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 25/07/17 09:45:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/



Hello,

what's the mozharness.zip file?

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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

The updates are here. You could also do a manual update and save around 
24 MB in download size:


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/update/win32/
I did this once and it wasn't worth it. Just grab the installer and be 
done with it. 2.48 should be an improvement over 2.46. Gecko overall 
gets better with every release. Only now with 56 (2.53) things start to 
really go down the drain.


FRG

Desiree wrote:
Thank you. So, this means that if I have the official version 2.46 on 
Windows that if I want the new 2.48 the ONLY way to EVER get it is to 
download the entire thing?  I guess I will just stick with 2.46.


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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Desiree wrote:


Thank you. So, this means that if I have the official version 2.46 on
Windows that if I want the new 2.48 the ONLY way to EVER get it is to
download the entire thing? I guess I will just stick with 2.46.


Depends on your connection speed. Is 38 MB a problem? For comparison, 
2.46 was 35 MB.


The subdirectory 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/win32/en-US/ 
contains:


FileSeaMonkey Setup 2.48.exe38M 21-Jul-2017 08:32
...
Fileseamonkey-2.48.zip  48M 21-Jul-2017 08:32

I was surprised to see that the zip file was 10 MB larger -- it turns 
out that's because it contains all the SeaMonkey files and folders 
instead of the installer.


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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Desiree]

On 7/25/2017 3:10 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

  >>
  > Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The language in
  > SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".
Ok Updates is it.
  > I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and it 
was
  > a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?
This will not work at all for this release assuming that you are using the
official version. If you use Linux and the version is/was provided by your
distribution just ignore. The distributor will then update it as usual.
FRG

Desiree wrote:

On 7/24/2017 9:53 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I forgot. Upgrades will not work for 2.48. With the switch to new distribution
servers trying to make this work turned out to be not possible in the given
timeframe.
FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.
FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?


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Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The language in
SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".

I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and it was
a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?


Thank you. So, this means that if I have the official version 2.46 on 
Windows that if I want the new 2.48 the ONLY way to EVER get it is to 
download the entire thing?  I guess I will just stick with 2.46.

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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

>>
> Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The language in
> SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".
Ok Updates is it.
> I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and it was
> a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?
This will not work at all for this release assuming that you are using the 
official version. If you use Linux and the version is/was provided by your 
distribution just ignore. The distributor will then update it as usual.

FRG

Desiree wrote:

On 7/24/2017 9:53 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I forgot. Upgrades will not work for 2.48. With the switch to new distribution
servers trying to make this work turned out to be not possible in the given
timeframe.
FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.
FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?


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Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The language in 
SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".


I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and it was 
a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?


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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Desiree]

On 7/24/2017 9:53 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I forgot. Upgrades will not work for 2.48. With the switch to new distribution
servers trying to make this work turned out to be not possible in the given
timeframe.
FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.
FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?


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Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The 
language in SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".


I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and 
it was a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?

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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Ray_Net]

Jonathan Wilson wrote on 25-07-17 08:53:
Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can 
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?



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I have this http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/  as my home page, SO 
I know when I can download the full released version.

I never do an update.
I backup my profile when SM in ot running.
I download the new full version.
I uninstall my current version.
I install the new version.
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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

I forgot. Upgrades will not work for 2.48. With the switch to new distribution 
servers trying to make this work turned out to be not possible in the given 
timeframe.

FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the 
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.

You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need 
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There 
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.

FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can 
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?



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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the 
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.

You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need 
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There 
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.

FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can download? 
Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?



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Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Jonathan Wilson]

Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can 
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?



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Seamonkey 2.46 (pkgsrc/NetBSD alpha)

[BERTRAND Joël]

Hello,

	I'm trying to build seamonkey on a NetBSD workstation (PWS500a, AXP 
architecture). On x86/amd64, I obtain a runnable application, but on 
alpha, build process crashes with following error :


/usr/pkgsrc/www/seamonkey/work/build/_virtualenv/bin/python 
/usr/pkgsrc/www/seamonkey/work/seamonkey-2.46/mozilla/config/expandlibs_exec.py 
--uselist --  /usr/pkgsrc/www/seamonkey/work/.cwrapper/bin/c++ 
-std=gnu++11 -o plugin-container -DPNG_NO_ASSEMBLER_CODE 
-I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R7/include 
-I/usr/X11R7/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R7/include/libdrm 
-I/usr/pkg/include/nspr -I/usr/pkg/include/nss/nss 
-I/usr/pkg/include/ffmpeg3 -Wall -Wc++11-compat -Wempty-body 
-Wignored-qualifiers -Woverloaded-virtual -Wpointer-arith -Wsign-compare 
-Wtype-limits -Wunreachable-code -Wwrite-strings -Wc++14-compat 
-Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-error=maybe-uninitialized 
-Wno-error=deprecated-declarations -Wno-error=array-bounds -O2 
-mcpu=ev56 -mtune=ev56 -mieee -I/usr/X11R7/include/pixman-1 
-I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R7/include 
-I/usr/X11R7/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R7/include/libdrm 
-I/usr/pkg/include/nspr -I/usr/pkg/include/nss/nss 
-I/usr/pkg/include/ffmpeg3 -mcpu=ev56 -mtune=ev56 -fno-exceptions 
-fno-strict-aliasing -Dunix -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-math-errno 
-pthread -pipe  -O -fomit-frame-pointer  GMPLoader.o 
MozillaRuntimeMain.o   -lpthread -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/seamonkey 
-L/usr/pkg/lib -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib -L/usr/lib -Wl,-R/usr/lib 
-L/usr/X11R7/lib -Wl,-R/usr/X11R7/lib -L/usr/pkg/lib/pulseaudio 
-Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/pulseaudio -L/usr/pkg/lib/nspr 
-Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/nspr -L/usr/pkg/lib/nss -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/nss 
-L/usr/pkg/lib/ffmpeg3 -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/ffmpeg3 -Wl,-z,noexecstack 
-Wl,-z,text -Wl,--build-id  -rdynamic 
-Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/pkgsrc/www/seamonkey/work/build/dist/bin 
-Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/pkg/lib   ../../config/external/nspr/libnspr.a 
../../xpcom/glue/libxpcomglue_s.a ../../mozglue/build/libmozglue.a 
../../memory/fallible/libfallible.a ../../dom/media/gmp/rlz/librlz.a 
-pie ../../toolkit/library/libxul.so   -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/nspr 
-L/usr/pkg/lib/nspr -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -L/usr/lib -pthread 
-Wl,--export-dynamic
Executing: ../../../.cwrapper/bin/c++ -std=gnu++11 -o plugin-container 
-DPNG_NO_ASSEMBLER_CODE -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/include 
-I/usr/X11R7/include -I/usr/X11R7/include/freetype2 
-I/usr/X11R7/include/libdrm -I/usr/pkg/include/nspr 
-I/usr/pkg/include/nss/nss -I/usr/pkg/include/ffmpeg3 -Wall 
-Wc++11-compat -Wempty-body -Wignored-qualifiers -Woverloaded-virtual 
-Wpointer-arith -Wsign-compare -Wtype-limits -Wunreachable-code 
-Wwrite-strings -Wc++14-compat -Wno-invalid-offsetof 
-Wno-error=maybe-uninitialized -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations 
-Wno-error=array-bounds -O2 -mcpu=ev56 -mtune=ev56 -mieee 
-I/usr/X11R7/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/include 
-I/usr/X11R7/include -I/usr/X11R7/include/freetype2 
-I/usr/X11R7/include/libdrm -I/usr/pkg/include/nspr 
-I/usr/pkg/include/nss/nss -I/usr/pkg/include/ffmpeg3 -mcpu=ev56 
-mtune=ev56 -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -Dunix -fno-rtti 
-fno-exceptions -fno-math-errno -pthread -pipe -O -fomit-frame-pointer 
/usr/pkgsrc/www/seamonkey/work/build/ipc/app/tmpEggSbF.list -lpthread 
-Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/seamonkey -L/usr/pkg/lib -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib 
-L/usr/lib -Wl,-R/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R7/lib -Wl,-R/usr/X11R7/lib 
-L/usr/pkg/lib/pulseaudio -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/pulseaudio 
-L/usr/pkg/lib/nspr -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/nspr -L/usr/pkg/lib/nss 
-Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/nss -L/usr/pkg/lib/ffmpeg3 -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/ffmpeg3 
-Wl,-z,noexecstack -Wl,-z,text -Wl,--build-id -rdynamic 
-Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/pkgsrc/www/seamonkey/work/build/dist/bin 
-Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/pkg/lib ../../xpcom/glue/libxpcomglue_s.a -pie 
../../toolkit/library/libxul.so -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib/nspr 
-L/usr/pkg/lib/nspr -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -L/usr/lib -pthread 
-Wl,--export-dynamic

/usr/pkgsrc/www/seamonkey/work/build/ipc/app/tmpEggSbF.list:
INPUT("GMPLoader.o")
INPUT("MozillaRuntimeMain.o")
INPUT("../../mozglue/build/dummy.o")
INPUT("../../memory/mozalloc/Unified_cpp_memory_mozalloc0.o")
INPUT("../../mozglue/misc/StackWalk.o")
INPUT("../../mozglue/misc/TimeStamp.o")
INPUT("../../mozglue/misc/TimeStamp_posix.o")
INPUT("../../mfbt/Compression.o")
INPUT("../../mfbt/Decimal.o")
INPUT("../../mfbt/Unified_cpp_mfbt0.o")
INPUT("../../memory/fallible/fallible.o")
INPUT("../../dom/media/gmp/rlz/Unified_cpp_dom_media_gmp_rlz0.o")

../../toolkit/library/libxul.so: undefined reference to `nearbyintf'
../../toolkit/library/libxul.so: undefined reference to `nearbyint'

	nearbyintf and nearbyint are available in libm. Thus, I understand that 
-lm is missing somewhere.


I have tried to add :

if CONFIG['OS_ARCH'] == 'NetBSD':
OS_LIBS += [
'm',
   

Re: Seeing Photos in eMail Challenge - SM 2.46 on W10 Pro Desktop

[bo1953]

S Slicer wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

My challenge is that I cannot view/see photo's inline at all despite
the fact that I have 'Load All Images' checked in the security settings.

Any ideas or suggestions as to what else I can do in order to view
photos/pictures inline? Maybe something else I have setup and do not
realize.

TIA - bo1953

At the top of the SeaMonkey mail menu:  View -> Display Attachments
Inline; make sure there is a check mark next to that.


S - Thank you for your input, yes that is checked.

I appreciate your time and help.

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[S Slicer]

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

My challenge is that I cannot view/see photo's inline at all despite the 
fact that I have 'Load All Images' checked in the security settings.


Any ideas or suggestions as to what else I can do in order to view 
photos/pictures inline? Maybe something else I have setup and do not 
realize.


TIA - bo1953
At the top of the SeaMonkey mail menu:  View -> Display Attachments 
Inline; make sure there is a check mark next to that.

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Re: Seeing Photos in eMail Challenge - SM 2.46 on W10 Pro Desktop

[Richard Alan]

bo1953 wrote:

> My challenge is that I cannot view/see photo's inline at all despite the
> fact that I have 'Load All Images' checked in the security settings.

I don't have an answer for your problem but you may want to reconsider the 
"load all images" (email presumably) because you will subject yourself to 
tracking by the webbugs that spammers use.

"[√] Block images and other content from remote sources"
is by far the safest option.
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[bo1953]

Hello all,

My challenge is that I cannot view/see photo's inline at all despite the 
fact that I have 'Load All Images' checked in the security settings.


Any ideas or suggestions as to what else I can do in order to view 
photos/pictures inline? Maybe something else I have setup and do not 
realize.


TIA - bo1953
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Re: Sluggish Data Manager and Stored Passwords Manager since SM 2.46 upgrade

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

From the 2.48b1 release notes. I should have updated the 2.46 ones too:

If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when 
opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your 
profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These contain data stored by web 
sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if the 
information is needed please back them up before deleting them. The problem is 
tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found.


no...@nonospam.org wrote:
I have noticed that after clicking on either Tools->Data Manager or 
Tools->Password Manager->Manage Stored Passwords and clicking in the search 
domains box, the title bar then displays SeaMonkey (not responding) for about 
30 seconds before I can continue. I think this started when I upgraded from SM 
2.40 to SM 2.46. I don't recall ever having this problem with an earlier version.


John


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Re: Sluggish Data Manager and Stored Passwords Manager since SM 2.46 upgrade

[David E. Ross]

On 7/14/2017 7:52 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> I have noticed that after clicking on either Tools->Data Manager or 
> Tools->Password Manager->Manage Stored Passwords and clicking in the 
> search domains box, the title bar then displays SeaMonkey (not 
> responding) for about 30 seconds before I can continue. I think this 
> started when I upgraded from SM 2.40 to SM 2.46. I don't recall ever 
> having this problem with an earlier version.
> 
> John
> 

Windows 7
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.46

I do not see this problem.  Launching Data Manager and Password Manager
seem instantaneous for me.

A slowdown might be caused by having a really huge number of some form
of managed data: cookies, preferences, passwords, etc.  If this is true,
then a delay in launching Password Manager might have nothing to do with
the number of passwords since requesting Password Manager launches the
Data Manager.

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[notme]

I have noticed that after clicking on either Tools->Data Manager or 
Tools->Password Manager->Manage Stored Passwords and clicking in the 
search domains box, the title bar then displays SeaMonkey (not 
responding) for about 30 seconds before I can continue. I think this 
started when I upgraded from SM 2.40 to SM 2.46. I don't recall ever 
having this problem with an earlier version.


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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 6/26/2017 1:33 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 6/21/2017 2:13 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Correction:  "... NOTHING in them."

Henrik37 wrote:

Sorry, I misunderstood what you asked me to look for.  There were 
'sessionstore' files and most where shown as having anything in them.
Should I just delete them all?





I only have two:
sessionstore.json
sessionstore.bak


The json file contains the browser configuration and I think is used to
restore the session. I tend to be cautious: try (with SM closed) just
moving them all to another directory then restart the browser.

Lem Johnson

I found the two files you mentioned plus 'sessionstore-1.json' through
'sessionstore-.json'.

Only the file listed as 'sessionstore.json' had a value - about 800, and
all of the numbered 'sessionstore-x.json' files (x = 1 through )
listed a value of '0'.  Out of desperation, I moved 'sessionstore.json'
and all  of the numbered 'sessionstore-x.json' to the recycle bin.

Restarting SeaMonkey, the problem had disappeared and I don't find
anything else has gone wrong.  Could this mean that v.2.46 has a 
limit on the number of sessionstore files that can be stored?

My inclination is to dump all of the files in the Recycle Bin.  Yes?
No?  Do something else?


You can toss them.  You'll find SM has created a new sessionstore.json
file based on your current browser tabs.

lj
Thanks for your advice.  I take it, then, that there does, in fact, 
exist a  file limit.

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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 6/26/2017 1:33 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 6/21/2017 2:13 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Correction:  "... NOTHING in them."

Henrik37 wrote:

Sorry, I misunderstood what you asked me to look for.  There were 
'sessionstore' files and most where shown as having anything in them.
Should I just delete them all?





I only have two:
sessionstore.json
sessionstore.bak


The json file contains the browser configuration and I think is used to
restore the session. I tend to be cautious: try (with SM closed) just
moving them all to another directory then restart the browser.

Lem Johnson

I found the two files you mentioned plus 'sessionstore-1.json' through
'sessionstore-.json'.

Only the file listed as 'sessionstore.json' had a value - about 800, and
all of the numbered 'sessionstore-x.json' files (x = 1 through )
listed a value of '0'.  Out of desperation, I moved 'sessionstore.json'
and all  of the numbered 'sessionstore-x.json' to the recycle bin.

Restarting SeaMonkey, the problem had disappeared and I don't find
anything else has gone wrong.  Could this mean that v.2.46 has a 
limit on the number of sessionstore files that can be stored?

My inclination is to dump all of the files in the Recycle Bin.  Yes?
No?  Do something else?


You can toss them.  You'll find SM has created a new sessionstore.json 
file based on your current browser tabs.


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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 6/21/2017 2:13 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Correction:  "... NOTHING in them."

Henrik37 wrote:

Sorry, I misunderstood what you asked me to look for.  There were 
'sessionstore' files and most where shown as having anything in them.
Should I just delete them all?





I only have two:
sessionstore.json
sessionstore.bak


The json file contains the browser configuration and I think is used to
restore the session. I tend to be cautious: try (with SM closed) just
moving them all to another directory then restart the browser.

Lem Johnson
I found the two files you mentioned plus 'sessionstore-1.json' through 
'sessionstore-.json'.


Only the file listed as 'sessionstore.json' had a value - about 800, and 
all of the numbered 'sessionstore-x.json' files (x = 1 through ) 
listed a value of '0'.  Out of desperation, I moved 'sessionstore.json' 
and all  of the numbered 'sessionstore-x.json' to the recycle bin.


Restarting SeaMonkey, the problem had disappeared and I don't find 
anything else has gone wrong.  Could this mean that v.2.46 has a  
limit on the number of sessionstore files that can be stored?


My inclination is to dump all of the files in the Recycle Bin.  Yes? 
No?  Do something else?

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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/14/2017 6:47 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!



1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select Browser.

3.  At the top of the main part of the Browser pane, to the right of
"Display on", select the down-pointing triangle and "Browser Startup"
from the pull-down selection list.

4.  Below "Display on" and "Browser Startup", there should be four radio
buttons.  Which one is selected (has a black dot)?


 The 'blank page' button has the black dot.
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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[David E. Ross]

On 6/14/2017 6:47 PM, Henrik37 wrote:
> I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For 
> the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:
> 
> "Would you like to restore your session?"
> 
> and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power 
> failure.
> 
> How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to 
> eliminate the reminder message.  Help!
> 

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select Browser.

3.  At the top of the main part of the Browser pane, to the right of
"Display on", select the down-pointing triangle and "Browser Startup"
from the pull-down selection list.

4.  Below "Display on" and "Browser Startup", there should be four radio
buttons.  Which one is selected (has a black dot)?

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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 6/21/2017 2:13 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Correction:  "... NOTHING in them."

Henrik37 wrote:

Sorry, I misunderstood what you asked me to look for.  There were 
'sessionstore' files and most where shown as having anything in them.
Should I just delete them all?





I only have two:
sessionstore.json
sessionstore.bak


The json file contains the browser configuration and I think is used to 
restore the session. I tend to be cautious: try (with SM closed) just 
moving them all to another directory then restart the browser.


Lem Johnson
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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Correction:  "... NOTHING in them."

Henrik37 wrote:

Sorry, I misunderstood what you asked me to look for.  There were 
'sessionstore' files and most where shown as having anything in them.
Should I just delete them all?


Henrik37 wrote:

There is only a single profile listed in the profiles list.

Any ideas on what to try next?


Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 6/15/2017 1:47 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/06/2017 11:47 AM, Henrik37 wrote:

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.
For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief
power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get
SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!


May not be the "correct" method, but have you tried answering "Yes" to
restore, then close that Browser Window and re-open your Browser to
get
a "current" set of Tabs??


Interesting idea and something I hadn't thought to try after the first
time the problem arose.

Unfortunately, the problem won't go away.


How many "sessionstore.*" files are in your profile directory?

Lem Johnson






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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Sorry, I misunderstood what you asked me to look for.  There were  
'sessionstore' files and most where shown as having anything in them. 
Should I just delete them all?



Henrik37 wrote:

There is only a single profile listed in the profiles list.

Any ideas on what to try next?


Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 6/15/2017 1:47 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/06/2017 11:47 AM, Henrik37 wrote:

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.
For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief
power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get
SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!


May not be the "correct" method, but have you tried answering "Yes" to
restore, then close that Browser Window and re-open your Browser to get
a "current" set of Tabs??


Interesting idea and something I hadn't thought to try after the first
time the problem arose.

Unfortunately, the problem won't go away.


How many "sessionstore.*" files are in your profile directory?

Lem Johnson




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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

The value is set to 'only when I need them' (or something similar) but 
it didn't fix the problem.


Does anybody have any further ideas?  The problem is driving me crazy.


David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/16/2017 6:38 AM, Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!

in about:config, try this (remember your original setting so that you
can go back to it if need be):
browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs;0



If there is a user interface for changing a preference, I always
recommend that in place of manually changing preference variables.  This
is because the user interface might involve more preference variables
than merely the obvious one.  In this case, there is indeed a user
interface.

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select Browser.

3.  On the Broser pane, select one of the radio buttons under "When
restoring sessions and windows".  If the middle radio button is select,
select the number of tabs.

4.  Select the OK button.



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[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

There is only a single profile listed in the profiles list.

Any ideas on what to try next?


Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 6/15/2017 1:47 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/06/2017 11:47 AM, Henrik37 wrote:

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.
For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!


May not be the "correct" method, but have you tried answering "Yes" to
restore, then close that Browser Window and re-open your Browser to get
a "current" set of Tabs??


Interesting idea and something I hadn't thought to try after the first
time the problem arose.

Unfortunately, the problem won't go away.


How many "sessionstore.*" files are in your profile directory?

Lem Johnson


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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Value is set to '0' (zero) but that didn't fix the problem.

Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!

in about:config, try this (remember your original setting so that you
can go back to it if need be):
browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs;0


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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

On 6/16/2017 6:38 AM, Roger Fink wrote:

 Original Message 

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!

in about:config, try this (remember your original setting so that you
can go back to it if need be):
browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs;0


If there is a user interface for changing a preference, I always
recommend that in place of manually changing preference variables.  This
is because the user interface might involve more preference variables
than merely the obvious one.  In this case, there is indeed a user
interface.

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select Browser.

3.  On the Broser pane, select one of the radio buttons under "When
restoring sessions and windows".  If the middle radio button is select,
select the number of tabs.

4.  Select the OK button.



Fine. I always recommend that in place of critiquing peoples' responses 
to others who are looking for help, you post a non-critique actual 
response to the OP.


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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[David E. Ross]

On 6/16/2017 6:38 AM, Roger Fink wrote:
>  Original Message 
>> I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For
>> the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:
>>
>> "Would you like to restore your session?"
>>
>> and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
>> failure.
>>
>> How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
>> eliminate the reminder message.  Help!
> in about:config, try this (remember your original setting so that you 
> can go back to it if need be):
> browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs;0
> 

If there is a user interface for changing a preference, I always
recommend that in place of manually changing preference variables.  This
is because the user interface might involve more preference variables
than merely the obvious one.  In this case, there is indeed a user
interface.

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select Browser.

3.  On the Broser pane, select one of the radio buttons under "When
restoring sessions and windows".  If the middle radio button is select,
select the number of tabs.

4.  Select the OK button.

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Consider:
*  Most state mandate that drivers have liability insurance.
*  Employers are mandated to have worker's compensation insurance.
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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!
in about:config, try this (remember your original setting so that you 
can go back to it if need be):

browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs;0
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Re: Installation of SM 2.46 under Linux Mint 17.3 failed

[Daniel]

On 16/06/2017 4:25 AM, Klaus Weber wrote:

Am 14.06.2017 um 09:36 schrieb Daniel:

On 14/06/2017 9:58 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/17 5:17 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 13/06/2017 8:41 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Klaus Weber wrote:

After a crash of the system I wanted to reinstall SM from the
download
seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb. But it did not work.

Error message:
Fehler: Beschädigt vorhandenes Paket "hunspell-en-us"‚ welches in
Konflikt steht: "iceweasel". Aber
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"

bietet es an über: "gnome-www- browser,
iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"

Any suggestions, what I should do?

Klaus


Is my SeaMonkey broken?

I'm seeing this new Subject, as a Followup to a post by David E.
Ross in
the, "Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7"
thread.

Shouldn't it be a separate topic, with its own thread?

Also see the problem in my Thunderbird. :(


Normally, yes.

But if Klaus had clicked on David's post, read it (or not), then
deleted the content, including the Subject:, he would have had a blank
form which would have threaded in this thread (as it did), wouldn't
he??


Pretty tacky thing to do IMHO. 


Tacky  or inexperienced, maybe!!

Sorry I was not aware that I would interfere a thread.



You live and you learn, Klaus, you live and you learn!!

Daniel

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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 6/15/2017 1:47 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/06/2017 11:47 AM, Henrik37 wrote:

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!


May not be the "correct" method, but have you tried answering "Yes" to
restore, then close that Browser Window and re-open your Browser to get
a "current" set of Tabs??


Interesting idea and something I hadn't thought to try after the first
time the problem arose.

Unfortunately, the problem won't go away.


How many "sessionstore.*" files are in your profile directory?

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Re: SM v.2.46 Keeps Opening An Old Session

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Daniel wrote:

On 15/06/2017 11:47 AM, Henrik37 wrote:

I am running SM v.2.46 on a Dell Optiplex 780 with 64 bit Win7-Pro.  For
the last 8 days, every time I bring up SM, it opens with:

"Would you like to restore your session?"

and wants to bring up a session from last week when I had a brief power
failure.

How do I get rid of this reminder?  Nothing I have tried will get SM to
eliminate the reminder message.  Help!


May not be the "correct" method, but have you tried answering "Yes" to
restore, then close that Browser Window and re-open your Browser to get
a "current" set of Tabs??

Interesting idea and something I hadn't thought to try after the first 
time the problem arose.


Unfortunately, the problem won't go away.
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Re: Installation of SM 2.46 under Linux Mint 17.3 failed

[Klaus Weber]

Am 14.06.2017 um 09:36 schrieb Daniel:

On 14/06/2017 9:58 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/17 5:17 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 13/06/2017 8:41 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Klaus Weber wrote:
After a crash of the system I wanted to reinstall SM from the 
download

seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb. But it did not work.

Error message:
Fehler: Beschädigt vorhandenes Paket "hunspell-en-us"‚ welches in
Konflikt steht: "iceweasel". Aber
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" 


bietet es an über: "gnome-www- browser,
iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"

Any suggestions, what I should do?

Klaus


Is my SeaMonkey broken?

I'm seeing this new Subject, as a Followup to a post by David E. 
Ross in
the, "Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7" 
thread.


Shouldn't it be a separate topic, with its own thread?

Also see the problem in my Thunderbird. :(


Normally, yes.

But if Klaus had clicked on David's post, read it (or not), then
deleted the content, including the Subject:, he would have had a blank
form which would have threaded in this thread (as it did), wouldn't 
he??


Pretty tacky thing to do IMHO. 


Tacky  or inexperienced, maybe!!

Sorry I was not aware that I would interfere a thread.


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Re: Installation of SM 2.46 under Linux Mint 17.3 failed

[WaltS48]

On 6/13/17 5:17 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 13/06/2017 8:41 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Klaus Weber wrote:

After a crash of the system I wanted to reinstall SM from the download
seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb. But it did not work.

Error message:
Fehler: Beschädigt vorhandenes Paket "hunspell-en-us"‚ welches in
Konflikt steht: "iceweasel". Aber
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
bietet es an über: "gnome-www- browser, iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"

Any suggestions, what I should do?

Klaus



Is my SeaMonkey broken?

I'm seeing this new Subject, as a Followup to a post by David E. Ross in
the, "Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7" thread.

Shouldn't it be a separate topic, with its own thread?

Also see the problem in my Thunderbird. :(


Normally, yes.

But if Klaus had clicked on David's post, read it (or not), then deleted 
the content, including the Subject:, he would have had a blank form 
which would have threaded in this thread (as it did), wouldn't he??




Pretty tacky thing to do IMHO. 



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Re: Installation of SM 2.46 under Linux Mint 17.3 failed

[Daniel]

On 13/06/2017 8:41 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Klaus Weber wrote:

After a crash of the system I wanted to reinstall SM from the download
seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb. But it did not work.

Error message:
Fehler: Beschädigt vorhandenes Paket "hunspell-en-us"‚ welches in
Konflikt steht: "iceweasel". Aber
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
bietet es an über: "gnome-www- browser, iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"

Any suggestions, what I should do?

Klaus



Is my SeaMonkey broken?

I'm seeing this new Subject, as a Followup to a post by David E. Ross in
the, "Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7" thread.

Shouldn't it be a separate topic, with its own thread?

Also see the problem in my Thunderbird. :(


Normally, yes.

But if Klaus had clicked on David's post, read it (or not), then deleted 
the content, including the Subject:, he would have had a blank form 
which would have threaded in this thread (as it did), wouldn't he??


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Re: Installation of SM 2.46 under Linux Mint 17.3 failed

[WaltS48]

Klaus Weber wrote:

After a crash of the system I wanted to reinstall SM from the download
seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb. But it did not work.

Error message:
Fehler: Beschädigt vorhandenes Paket "hunspell-en-us"‚ welches in
Konflikt steht: "iceweasel". Aber
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
bietet es an über: "gnome-www- browser, iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"

Any suggestions, what I should do?

Klaus



Is my SeaMonkey broken?

I'm seeing this new Subject, as a Followup to a post by David E. Ross in 
the, "Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7" thread.


Shouldn't it be a separate topic, with its own thread?

Also see the problem in my Thunderbird. :(
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Re: Installation of SM 2.46 under Linux Mint 17.3 failed

[Klaus Weber]

Here the translation of the error message:

Error: damaged existing package "hunspell-en-us"‚ which is in conflict: 
"iceweasel".
But 
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" 
offers it via "gnome-www- browser, iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"




Am 12.06.2017 um 15:12 schrieb Richard Owlett:

On 06/12/2017 07:22 AM, Klaus Weber wrote:

After a crash of the system I wanted to reinstall SM from the download
seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb. But it did not work.

Error message:
Fehler: Beschädigt vorhandenes Paket "hunspell-en-us"‚ welches in
Konflikt steht: "iceweasel". Aber
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
bietet es an über: "gnome-www- browser, iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"

Any suggestions, what I should do?

Klaus



As I use Debian and read no German I cannot speak directly to your 
problem.


However wanting to use the same version of SeaMonkey on both my Debian 
and Windows machines, I found

 useful.
HTH



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Re: Installation of SM 2.46 under Linux Mint 17.3 failed

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/12/2017 07:22 AM, Klaus Weber wrote:

After a crash of the system I wanted to reinstall SM from the download
seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb. But it did not work.

Error message:
Fehler: Beschädigt vorhandenes Paket "hunspell-en-us"‚ welches in
Konflikt steht: "iceweasel". Aber
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
bietet es an über: "gnome-www- browser, iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"

Any suggestions, what I should do?

Klaus



As I use Debian and read no German I cannot speak directly to your problem.

However wanting to use the same version of SeaMonkey on both my Debian 
and Windows machines, I found

 useful.
HTH



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Installation of SM 2.46 under Linux Mint 17.3 failed

[Klaus Weber]

After a crash of the system I wanted to reinstall SM from the download 
seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb. But it did not work.


Error message:
Fehler: Beschädigt vorhandenes Paket "hunspell-en-us"‚ welches in 
Konflikt steht: "iceweasel". Aber 
"/home/klaus/Downloads/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" 
bietet es an über: "gnome-www- browser, iceweasel,www-browser,seamonkey"


Any suggestions, what I should do?

Klaus

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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[EE]

DoctorBill wrote:

EE wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

I am not sure, but I think the Sort option under View only affects the
current display and not the places.sqlite database.



If not, there MUST be some way to sort the database and save it -
short of
performing some unnatural act(s)lol

DB

Drag and drop works.



Please elaborate - I do not understand what I am supposed to do here.
Assume I am an 10 year old and not very smart..

DoctorBill


If you open the bookmarks manager window, you can pick a folder and 
rearrange its contents into any order you choose by dragging and 
dropping the files into place.  Click on an item, keep holding the mouse 
button and drag it to whatever position you want, then let go of the button.



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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[DoctorBill]

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 6/8/2017 1:56 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

One of my most used bookmark folders needs sorting A>Z.
So I click Ctrl-B, go to that folder, then to Edit | Sort and click Sort
by Name (or)
A>Z and the list becomes sorted..great !
THEN, I go back to the SeaMonkey main window (desktop?) and click
Bookmarks Toolbar
and click on the folder I just sorted.
BAM !  Same as before !  The "sort" didn't stay, stick, remain - get
saved.

What am I doing wrong.  Used to work with earlier SM's.  Have I missed a
step ?

DoctorBill


No, you selected View | Sort.  That only changes the appearance of the
list in the Bookmarks window at that time.

You should right-click the folder name and then choose "Sort By Name". I
wish there were more sort options, in particular I could use sort by
date created.

Lem Johnson


OMG !  THAT works !

Now - how come NOBODY ELSE knew that ! ?

Amazing !

DoctorBill
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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

One of my most used bookmark folders needs sorting A>Z.
So I click Ctrl-B, go to that folder, then to Edit | Sort and click Sort
by Name (or)
A>Z and the list becomes sorted..great !
THEN, I go back to the SeaMonkey main window (desktop?) and click
Bookmarks Toolbar
and click on the folder I just sorted.
BAM !  Same as before !  The "sort" didn't stay, stick, remain - get
saved.

What am I doing wrong.  Used to work with earlier SM's.  Have I missed a
step ?

DoctorBill


Lemuel Johnson figured this out !  Thank you, Sir !  Kudos !
Go read his post !

DoctorBill
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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[DoctorBill]

EE wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

I am not sure, but I think the Sort option under View only affects the
current display and not the places.sqlite database.



If not, there MUST be some way to sort the database and save it -
short of
performing some unnatural act(s)lol

DB

Drag and drop works.



Please elaborate - I do not understand what I am supposed to do here.
Assume I am an 10 year old and not very smart..

DoctorBill
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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 6/8/2017 1:56 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

One of my most used bookmark folders needs sorting A>Z.
So I click Ctrl-B, go to that folder, then to Edit | Sort and click Sort
by Name (or)
A>Z and the list becomes sorted..great !
THEN, I go back to the SeaMonkey main window (desktop?) and click
Bookmarks Toolbar
and click on the folder I just sorted.
BAM !  Same as before !  The "sort" didn't stay, stick, remain - get
saved.

What am I doing wrong.  Used to work with earlier SM's.  Have I missed a
step ?

DoctorBill


No, you selected View | Sort.  That only changes the appearance of the 
list in the Bookmarks window at that time.


You should right-click the folder name and then choose "Sort By Name". 
I wish there were more sort options, in particular I could use sort by 
date created.


Lem Johnson
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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[EE]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/8/2017 2:56 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

One of my most used bookmark folders needs sorting A>Z.
So I click Ctrl-B, go to that folder, then to Edit | Sort and click
Sort
by Name (or)
A>Z and the list becomes sorted..great !
THEN, I go back to the SeaMonkey main window (desktop?) and click
Bookmarks Toolbar
and click on the folder I just sorted.
BAM !  Same as before !  The "sort" didn't stay, stick, remain - get
saved.

What am I doing wrong.  Used to work with earlier SM's.  Have I
missed a
step ?

DoctorBill


So it appears that in SM 2.46, there IS NO sort LASTING function for
the Bookmarks.

What / Where is the file stored - perhaps WORD or some data processor
can permanently sort the Bookmarks.

Wow !



Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process with the
SQLite Manager extension.  Lots of luck!!


Windows Explorer's Search does not locate that file !
What subdirectory is it in ?

DB


W7 is a really poor excuse for a search tool.
Install SearchEverything or something similar.

Your sq location will vary depending on your install.
Mine is at:
C:\Users\A\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\m23r9fz6l.default


You can find the profile location by pulling down the Help menu and 
opening "Troubleshooting Information".  Click the button next to 
"Profile Folder".


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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[EE]

DoctorBill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

I am not sure, but I think the Sort option under View only affects the
current display and not the places.sqlite database.



If not, there MUST be some way to sort the database and save it - short of
performing some unnatural act(s)lol

DB

Drag and drop works.

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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I had no trouble at all finding it. Win7's search function is
slow if you search your whole computer, including locations it
hasn't indexed, but pretty fast if you search one drive or
folder, especially one that it has indexed.


Personal preference. I search quite a bit on the work computer
but hardly ever on this play machine. Spent about a week
comparing search tools and got rid of W7 search during the second
week on the work comp. Installed S.E. on the others from then on.
W7 indexing is turned off. Too much of a system drag for me.


OK, so what's your alternative?

One of the first things you learn if you take Psych 101 is if you
want to change someone's behavior, offer an alternative. It's not
enough to just say "stop doing that!"


Search Everything is my fav search tool.
https://www.voidtools.com/
It's very fast.


Aha. I mistook "S.E" for "(the) search engine," presumably the Win7 one.

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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I had no trouble at all finding it. Win7's search function is slow
if you search your whole computer, including locations it hasn't
indexed, but pretty fast if you search one drive or folder,
especially one that it has indexed.


Personal preference. I search quite a bit on the work computer but
hardly ever on this play machine. Spent about a week comparing search
tools and got rid of W7 search during the second week on the work
comp.  Installed S.E. on the others from then on. W7 indexing is
turned off.  Too much of a system drag for me.


OK, so what's your alternative?

One of the first things you learn if you take Psych 101 is if you want to 
change someone's
behavior, offer an alternative. It's not enough to just say "stop doing that!"


Search Everything is my fav search tool.
https://www.voidtools.com/
It's very fast.

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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


DoctorBill wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process
with the SQLite Manager extension.  Lots of luck!!


Windows Explorer's Search does not locate that file ! What
subdirectory is it in ?


W7 is a really poor excuse for a search tool. Install
SearchEverything or something similar.


I had no trouble at all finding it. Win7's search function is slow if you 
search your
whole computer, including locations it hasn't indexed, but pretty fast if you 
search one
drive or folder, especially one that it has indexed.


Personal preference.
I search quite a bit on the work computer but hardly ever on this play machine.
Spent about a week comparing search tools and got rid of W7 search during
the second week on the work comp.  Installed S.E. on the others from then on.
W7 indexing is turned off.  Too much of a system drag for me.

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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[Felix Miata]

DoctorBill composed on 2017-06-08 18:47 (UTC-0700):
.
 Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process with the
 SQLite Manager extension.  Lots of luck!!
...
> I am not a greatly knowledgeable user - so please explain the Jargon if 
> you try to explain
> to me what kind of file it is.and what to edit it with.
.
places.sqlite is a binary database blob (file) of type sqlite.
http://sqlitebrowser.org/ is home of an app available to do things with it, but
whether you could do any sorting and keep it compatible with SM, or at all, I
have no idea.
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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


DoctorBill wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process
with the SQLite Manager extension.  Lots of luck!!


Windows Explorer's Search does not locate that file ! What
subdirectory is it in ?


W7 is a really poor excuse for a search tool. Install
SearchEverything or something similar.


I had no trouble at all finding it. Win7's search function is slow if 
you search your whole computer, including locations it hasn't indexed, 
but pretty fast if you search one drive or folder, especially one that 
it has indexed.


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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[DoctorBill]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/8/2017 2:56 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

One of my most used bookmark folders needs sorting A>Z.
So I click Ctrl-B, go to that folder, then to Edit | Sort and click
Sort
by Name (or)
A>Z and the list becomes sorted..great !
THEN, I go back to the SeaMonkey main window (desktop?) and click
Bookmarks Toolbar
and click on the folder I just sorted.
BAM !  Same as before !  The "sort" didn't stay, stick, remain - get
saved.

What am I doing wrong.  Used to work with earlier SM's.  Have I
missed a
step ?

DoctorBill


So it appears that in SM 2.46, there IS NO sort LASTING function for
the Bookmarks.

What / Where is the file stored - perhaps WORD or some data processor
can permanently sort the Bookmarks.

Wow !



Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process with the
SQLite Manager extension.  Lots of luck!!


Windows Explorer's Search does not locate that file !
What subdirectory is it in ?

DB


W7 is a really poor excuse for a search tool.
Install SearchEverything or something similar.

Your sq location will vary depending on your install.
Mine is at:
C:\Users\A\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\m23r9fz6l.default




OK !
I found it.  I know where it is !
Tried to use 'OPENOFFIC'E to open it.no luck.
What type of file is it ?

I am not a greatly knowledgeable user - so please explain the Jargon if 
you try to explain

to me what kind of file it is.and what to edit it with.

Thank you !

DB

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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[David E. Ross]

On 6/8/2017 4:17 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 6/8/2017 2:56 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>>> One of my most used bookmark folders needs sorting A>Z.
>>>> So I click Ctrl-B, go to that folder, then to Edit | Sort and click Sort
>>>> by Name (or)
>>>> A>Z and the list becomes sorted..great !
>>>> THEN, I go back to the SeaMonkey main window (desktop?) and click
>>>> Bookmarks Toolbar
>>>> and click on the folder I just sorted.
>>>> BAM !  Same as before !  The "sort" didn't stay, stick, remain - get
>>>> saved.
>>>>
>>>> What am I doing wrong.  Used to work with earlier SM's.  Have I missed a
>>>> step ?
>>>>
>>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>> So it appears that in SM 2.46, there IS NO sort LASTING function for
>>> the Bookmarks.
>>>
>>> What / Where is the file stored - perhaps WORD or some data processor
>>> can permanently sort the Bookmarks.
>>>
>>> Wow !
>>>
>>
>> Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process with the
>> SQLite Manager extension.  Lots of luck!!
>>
> Windows Explorer's Search does not locate that file !
> What subdirectory is it in ?
> 
> DB
> 

Are you asking about places.sqlite or about SQLite Manager?

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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/08/2017 05:03 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/8/2017 2:56 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

One of my most used bookmark folders needs sorting A>Z.
So I click Ctrl-B, go to that folder, then to Edit | Sort and click
Sort by Name (or)
A>Z and the list becomes sorted..great !
THEN, I go back to the SeaMonkey main window (desktop?) and click
Bookmarks Toolbar
and click on the folder I just sorted.
BAM !  Same as before !  The "sort" didn't stay, stick, remain - get
saved.

What am I doing wrong.  Used to work with earlier SM's.
 Have I missed a step ?

DoctorBill


So it appears that in SM 2.46, there IS NO sort LASTING function for
the Bookmarks.

What / Where is the file stored - perhaps WORD or some data processor
can permanently sort the Bookmarks.

Wow !



Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process with
the SQLite Manager extension.  Lots of luck!!



All may not be lost.
I experience a problem nominally unrelated to "sorting".
It may suggest thought paths "outside the box" that creative souls might 
exploit.


My problem is accumulation of bookmarks over too many years.
They were categorized in ways that made sense *AT THAT TIMES* ;/

Now? "Hodgepodge" implies too much organization.
I've been experimenting with a sequence of :
  1. Export bookmarks in HTML
  2. Massage HTML representation
  3. Import tweaked HTML

The results to date have *NOT*:
  1. persuaded me to give up.
  2. encouraged me to publish anything.

IOW Does anyone have spare 96 hour days for 70 day weeks ?
YMMV 



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Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7

[Paul in Houston, TX]

DoctorBill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/8/2017 2:56 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

One of my most used bookmark folders needs sorting A>Z.
So I click Ctrl-B, go to that folder, then to Edit | Sort and click Sort
by Name (or)
A>Z and the list becomes sorted..great !
THEN, I go back to the SeaMonkey main window (desktop?) and click
Bookmarks Toolbar
and click on the folder I just sorted.
BAM !  Same as before !  The "sort" didn't stay, stick, remain - get
saved.

What am I doing wrong.  Used to work with earlier SM's.  Have I missed a
step ?

DoctorBill


So it appears that in SM 2.46, there IS NO sort LASTING function for
the Bookmarks.

What / Where is the file stored - perhaps WORD or some data processor
can permanently sort the Bookmarks.

Wow !



Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process with the
SQLite Manager extension.  Lots of luck!!


Windows Explorer's Search does not locate that file !
What subdirectory is it in ?

DB


W7 is a really poor excuse for a search tool.
Install SearchEverything or something similar.

Your sq location will vary depending on your install.
Mine is at:
C:\Users\A\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\m23r9fz6l.default


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