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I'm a longtime user of Multizilla, and I miss lots of its features in
Seamonkey 2. I guess I'll have to wait for most of them until HJ has
time to finish his Suiterunner-compatible port...

But, until then, it brought to fore a few Seamonkey issues -- ones that,
I think, could be addressed in the main code.

For instance, I got used to using Ctrl-W to close tabs. In Multizilla,
there is/was an option to keep it from closing the window when you close
the last tab -- instead, it loads a new (blank/home) tab automatically.

In Seamonkey, though, if you Ctrl-W the last tab, the whole window
closes. Furthermore, if you have no other Seamonkey windows opened, the
whole application shuts down -- that is, a moment's distraction may need
almost half a minute to recover. This is certainly by design, because
the file menu changes accordingly.

However, this doesn't happen if you close tabs using the mouse (if you
disable the hide tabbar when there is only one tab showing feature, of
course).

The pie-in-the-sky solution would be to have totally separate shortcuts
to close tab and close window -- but I realize that after all this
time, it would hurt more than it would help, since people are already
used to current behaviour.

So, what about a preference to make the keyboard shortcuts to behave the
same way as the close-tab mouse buttons? I found a reference to a
Firefox preference ( browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab ) that does
exactly that, and I tried to create it and set it to false in
Seamonkey 2, but it didn't work -- apparently it's not present in SM.
Implementing it would solve this problem, and keep it consistent with
Firefox.

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Re: Back to 1.18

Interviewed by CNN on 5/12/2009 16:37, David Wilkinson told the world:

 For me the overwhelming advantage of SM2 is that it has the FireFox 3 
 rendering 
 engine. So many sites don't display well in SM1/FF2 these days.

There's that, certainly. For me, a few other things:

- My bank here in Brazil supported Firefox flawlessly, but had some sort
of weird bug with the old Seamonkey that rendered the site unusable. Now
I don't have to fire another browser for banking. OK, that's covered
under rendering engine, I guess...

- Extensions. Yes, I lost Multizilla for the time being, and I do miss
it. But a lot of other extensions which were unavailable for Seamonkey,
or available only in old versions, now are within my reach. For
instance, DownThemAll... the only version which ran on 1.1.x was the one
Philip Chee made available, and that lacks a lot of later improvements,
such as the AntiContainer plugin.

- The integrated RSS reader in Mail. Sure, I was using Newsfox with the
old Seamonkey -- but it's a separate window, I had to manually start it,
it's slw, and the browser is basically unusable while it checks my
6o-plus feeds, one by one. The one in Mail is more basic than NewsFox,
but it's very fast, checks more than one feed at once, and works in the
background without bothering me.

- Good extension management is certainly a plus.
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Re: Close Window with Last Tab?

Interviewed by CNN on 5/12/2009 19:51, Martin Freitag told the world:
 MCBastos schrieb:
 So, what about a preference to make the keyboard shortcuts to behave the
 same way as the close-tab mouse buttons? I found a reference to a
 Firefox preference ( browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab ) that does
 exactly that, and I tried to create it and set it to false in
 Seamonkey 2, but it didn't work -- apparently it's not present in SM.
 Implementing it would solve this problem, and keep it consistent with
 Firefox.
 
 
 That's probably an idea, maybe file an enhancement-bug on this.
 Changing the default behaviour would mess up what many people are used 
 to I guess.
 regards

OK, I filed it as Bug 533125 (
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=533125 )

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Bug 105955 - MailNews Should be Viewable in a Tab - reopen?

I recently ran into Bug 105955 (
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105955 ), which echoes
some of my thoughts about Seamonkey.

It was marked as WONTFIX back in 2002 by Hixie, under the reason that
we should be separating the programs instead of joining them. Well,
Thunderbird and Firefox are separated now, so in that regard he was
right, but Seamonkey is geared into better integration between mail and
browser -- so that logic no longer applies.

Daniel Wang's comments on the problems caused by different UI in the
modules make a lot more sense, but still, this is almost 2010, not 2002.
A lot has happened since then. The Firefox team is looking into a Google
Chrome-like window layout, with tabs on top. Seamonkey might go that way
eventually too -- and in that case, Wang's reservation disappear.

So... maybe is time to revisit this bug and see if it's worth reopening
it? Maybe not even targeting for SM 3, but reserving it as a long-term
goal, as future?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-12-08 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 8/12/2009 13:30, John told the world:

 Water off a Ducks back.  I am wondering if it is because I have SM 
 installed in Documents and Settings?  Perhaps I should try Program Files.
 The interesting thing is though when SM2 installs it does not look 
 anything look 1.1.18.  There is a box that says something like 
 installing (or) updating GRE and then it is finished--that is a box 
 comes up and says Finished.
 When the shortcut is clicked nothing happens.

Let me get this straight. You have a highly non-standard setup -- you
install applications in what is designated by the system vendor
(Microsoft) as an user data area (I wonder if your iTunes setup is
non-standard too?), disregarding all the defaults and recommended
settings. Then something goes wrong -- and it's somehow Seamonkey's fault?

An aside: the most irate complaints I have seen in this forum came from
people who went out of their way to make things break. I remember a guy
complaining about Seamonkey not working right after forcing the
installation of 2.0 over 1.1.x. Another one cut  pasted his user
profile instead of using the import tool -- while the release notes are
very clear about the profile structure being changed.

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Re: Saving Movie (Film Clip) Files

2009-12-10 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 10/12/2009 17:41, DoctorBill told the world:

 I use this to watch .flv files - plays most anything;
 http://vlc-media-player.en.softonic.com/

You might wish to check the source for most up-to-the-minute versions:
http://www.videolan.org

Another approach is to install a GOOD codec pack. I have very good
experiences with the Combined Community Codec Pack -- it's a
playback-geared codec pack, very stable and well-behaved. After
installing it, you may see .flv (and most any other video format, in
fact) in almost any media player -- including Microsoft's Windows Media
Player. It includes the Media Player Classic Homecinema, too, if you
want a better-behaved media player.

http://www.cccp-project.net/

If you intend to edit/create video, though, that's not CCCP's strong
suite. The K-Lite Codec Pack might be better in that case -- it's not
quite as stable, but still good, and includes encoding codecs. I have
seen people recommending to avoid the largest versions of K-Lite
(particularly the Mega Pack), because they install so many codecs that
the chance of trouble increses a lot. In most cases, those extra codecs
are unnecessary anyway.

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Re: Intermittent incorrect favicon bug

2009-12-14 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 14/12/2009 03:05, Rex told the world:
 I've often seen this happen:
 Let's say I have tabs A,B,C in order. Each one displays its own favicon.
 I either open a 3rd tab adjacent to B(I use 'Tabs open relative') but 
 before C, or enter a new URL within B. Sometimes the favicon for C gets 
 replaced with the one for B.

I have noticed another, possibly related bug:
Some bookmarks somehow get the wrong favicon.

I didn't investigate the matter deeply, but I suspect it might have
something to do with the aggressively look for website icons feature
-- the one in which Seamonkey looks for a file named favicon.ico on the
website's root.

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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

2009-12-14 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 14/12/2009 02:53, JAS told the world:
 Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
 set as default?

I'm not aware of any easy way to do that, no.

Currently Seamonkey only accepts search plugins in the old Sherlock
format; I think Bing is only available in the new OpenSearch format.

Unfortunately, the Mycroft Project has been delisting the Sherlock
plugins if there is an equivalent OpenSearch one. So, you can't even try
an old MSN or Live Search plugin to see if will work with Bing.

There's a bug open in Bugzilla - Bug 410613, on
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410613
regarding exactly this problem.

As a workaround, you can use bookmark keywords. The procedure is as follows:

1. Create a bookmark for Bing (I prefer having a separate bookmark just
for this, so the regular Bing bookmark does not get the extra stuff).
2. Edit the bookmark, replacing the location line with
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%s
3. Add a keyword of your liking in the Keyword line. For instance,
Bing or even b.

Now, if you type a line such as
bing applied phlebotinum
you will get the Bing search results for applied phlebotinum

The nice part of this is you can have several bookmarks, each one
related to a different search. For instance, I have the following:

Google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%s
IMdB:
http://akas.imdb.com/find?s=allq=%s
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearchsearch=%s


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Re: 2.0.1 Update Failed

2009-12-17 Thread MCBastos


Interviewed by CNN on 17/12/2009 01:02, NoOp told the world:

On 12/16/2009 03:26 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I have SeaMonkey 2.0 installed. When I check for updates it finds 2.0.1
and I install it. When I restart SeaMonkey 2.0 is still there and it
still tells me that 2.0.1 is available. I have tried down loading the
full package of 2.0.1 and installing it over my existing installation,
and the same thing happens.


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) 
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0




What OS version? Yes, I know you are on Windows, but which version of
Windows specifically?


Windows NT 5.1 should be XP.


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Custom email notifications?

2009-12-18 Thread MCBastos

A customer came to me with a request: she wanted to be notified (by 
sound) whenever a new email from a particular sender arrived -- she 
doesn't like checking her e-mail too often, but she needs to know as 
soon as a message from a major client arrives.


I thought about using a message filter for it, but neither Seamonkey nor 
Thunderbird offer an action for it.


Does anybody know of an extension that could do that? (She uses a Gmail 
account -- perhaps a Greasemonkey script on her webmail window would be 
overkill?)


Should I open a bug in Bugzilla requesting this enhancement for future 
versions?


More generally, instead of a bug requesting custom notifications, should 
it be a request for running an external program? There's a very old bug, 
158019, requesting the ability to run an AppleScript on a Mac... this 
kind of feature would add enough flexibility to solve this problem and 
perhaps a number of others, but I'm not sure about the security 
implications.


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Re: Custom email notifications?

2009-12-19 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 19/12/2009 09:38, Daniel told the world:

 Sounds like an RFE to me.what you are asking, effectively, is to be 
 able to set up Edit=Preferences=MailNewsgroups=Notifications to do 
 things for particular (groups of) email addresses.

Not quite, I don't think that such a special-purpose UI would be justified.
I think a better approach would be to add one or two extra available
actions to the filtering rules, such as play custom notification or
run external program. That way, users can repurpose the custom
notification for other kind of uses -- or, in the case of running
external programs, even more esoteric stuff.

OTOH, it seems a lot of work (and probably code) to ask, for such a
niche use. So, before opening a RFE bug, I was wondering if anybody knew
an extension that could do it.

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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 21/12/2009 03:32, Rufus told the world:

 
 And I guess that's what I don't get...volunteers are generally more 
 dedicated and principled than paid hacks.  Or at least the ones I've 
 encountered have been...so I'm not into coddling them.

They are, but since they aren't getting paid, they can't give as many
hours to the project -- they have day jobs. A paid programmer can give 8
hours/day, at least 200 days a year. A volunteer can give MAYBE 2
hours/day. If he's really dedicated and enthusiastic.
Some paid programmer started out as volunteers, and are as enthusiastic
as any volunteer, by the way.
All those programmer man-month add up.

 So I really don't get why they've knuckled under and merely imported TB 
 and FF code instead of maintaining their own, based on that code...this 
 is all open source, right?  So where did the best of the good stuff go, 
 just because the paid hacks got paid to drop it?  Open = independent, I 
 thought?

Seamonkey simply does not have nearly as much manpower available as
Firefox -- and, as KaiRo pointed out, the Seamonkey volunteers lack
expertise in some areas that would be essential to splitting out entirely.

The source code to what you call the good stuff is still available --
but it's not compatible with the new core in its present form. If
someone with the necessary expertise, willingness and available time
will step up and adapt it to the new core, it can be revived. So far
nobody volunteered.


 Branch out or die...let SM become it's own project, or we might as well 
 all just use FF and TB.  Otherwise we won't be getting anything more 
 than FF and TB linked together in one app.  That's not much reason to 
 choose.

Again, it's a matter of manpower. SM *was* going somewhat independently
from Firefox for the last few years, on the 1.1 branch -- and what was
the result? The rendering engine was looking more and more dated every
day, ditto for the Javascript engine and other core stuff. It lacked
several modern security enhancements, it lacked a decent extensions
manager, it lacked a decent upgrade mechanism. Moving to the Firefox
toolkit gave us all of those in a fell swoop.

And let's not forget the extensions ecosystem. Which, frankly, was dying
on Seamonkey. Lots of extensions weren't available for SM, or had
reduced functionality -- because it was a lot more work for extensions
developers to support SM. That trend is reverting now: more and more
extensions are being brought to SM.

My take on the move? It's like the old saying, to give one step
backwards to leap two forwards. Yes, some stuff didn't get
moved/recreated immediately -- the forms manager seems to be the most
visible complaint. However, the move will release developers from doing
stuff that was just duplicating efforts from the FF/TB guys, so they can
now concentrate on doing new stuff.

You have a boat. It has a wooden hull, it's old and leaky. You have
three guys to work on the boat. They spend all the time plugging leaks.
Then someone offers you a brand-new, fiberglass hull. You move your
engine, bunks, head, kitchen etc. to the new hull. Only, a couple bunks
didn't fit the new hull (despite it being actually a little bigger), so
you had to do without them for the time being. Sure, right now you have
less bunks -- but your three guys have a lot of free time now, so they
can not only build new bunks but even to figure out how to fit a
freaking home theater in the boat.


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What is mozilla-temporary-internal-MDN-receipt-filter?

2009-12-22 Thread MCBastos

I noticed a new rule appeared by itself on top of my email rules, for
all accounts.
It's called mozilla-temporary-internal-MDN-receipt-filter, and checks
the X-Yahoo-Forwarded heading for the values multipart/report and
disposition-notification. If either is found, it moves the message to
the sent folder.

There's also a similar rule called SpamAssassinYes that checks the
same heading for Yes and for spam on the message title, and if so,
moves the message to the spam folder.

Now, the second rule *seems* to have something to do with the trust
SpamAssassin headers option... but I can't figure what added the first
one. Maybe it was the Mail Redirect extension?

Another funny thing with this is I think I already used the trust
SpamAssassin thing back in 1.1.x, but I don't remember any extra rules
(and I do fiddle with my mail rules in a regular basis). Were those two
hidden rules that now in version 2 became visible?

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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-25 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 24/12/2009 03:29, Rufus told the world:

 SM 1.1.18 does what I need, and the way I need it done.  And I've been 
 looking over alternatives left and right - Firefox...nogo.  Camino, 
 Stainless, Chrome, and Safari all look like they have common roots.

Almost, but not quite. Camino is based on Gecko, the same as Firefox,
Seamonkey and Flock. All the others you mentioned are Webkit-based, and
therefore will render similarly (except for Javascript, because they use
different engines for that).

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Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...

2009-12-29 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 29/12/2009 18:16, Robert Kaiser told the world:
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 ...maybe just Toolbar Items? Or Personal Toolbar Items?
 
 What I have thought about is Personal Bookmark Items, which is about 
 as long as the current one and goes better in line with the current name 
 of the toolbar, though still pointing to bookmarks.
 
 Maybe even just Personal Bookmarks, but that could be too little precise.

I have to disagree. Generally speaking, ALL bookmarks are personal
inasmuch as they are a personal customization, and the ones in the
toolbar aren't any more personal than the other ones.

What about something like Quick Bookmarks? That's fairly descriptive
-- they are bookmarks, but they are easier to access (and therefore
quicker) because they are in a toolbar.

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Re: SeaMonkey is not currently set as your default browser

2010-01-01 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 1/1/2010 14:35, Melissa told the world:
 Hello all. 
 I haven't been here in a while, but I have a stumper.
 
 On my friend's computer, which I support . . .
 
 She has Vista, and I recently upgraded her to Seamonkey 2.0.
 
 She keeps getting the following message whenever she goes to save an 
 attachment from an email:
 
 Sea Monkey is not currently set as your default browser .  Would you 
 like to set
 S.M. as your default browser? 
 
 I've gone into Vista Set Program Access and Defaults and made SM her 
 default browser and default email.
 In Preferences, SM says it's the default browser and mail app, but the 
 messages just keep on coming.
 
 I don't know what to do next -
 Should I just have it stop telling her it's not the default and leave it 
 at that?
 

Try just clicking Yes when the message pops up.

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Re: Problem with my Trash File.

2010-01-01 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 1/1/2010 16:40, Lee told the world:
 Using SM2.1, with Vista and my trash file
 for some reason will delete any file put into
 it unless I mark it unread.  I checked all
 the preferences and it shows keep all messages
 etc and the weird thing is my other mail folder
 for gmail etc I have no problem just with my ISP
 folder. A file goes in marked as read and poof
 it is gone!  Even though the preferences say to
 keep the messages.  Did ask in the netscape.
 public.mozilla.seamonkey group but no one had
 an answer.
 
 NE1 else have this problem?  If so and you
 were able to fix it and what did you do.  I also
 did the edit prefs to no avail either.

Go to the trash folder.
Open menu View, Messages, select All.


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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

2010-01-01 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 1/1/2010 17:21, OldTimer told the world:
 I'm running SM 2.0.1 on Win XP SP2.  In the accounts panel on the left 
 side of the SM main screen, I have 2 accounts with many folders:   1)an 
 old account with an ISP I'm going to close (it's dial-up). and 2) a new 
 account (DSL) with some similar and some different folders from the old 
 account.
 
 As mail senders began using my new address, I set up new folders.  I 
 don't have all the same folders and I don't have all the folders that 
 are in my old account and I have new ones that aren't in the old account.
 
 I want to merge/transfer? all my old mail messages to my new account, 
 delete my old account and ensure that the address book is retained.
 
 Is there an quick way to do this?  I discovered that I could drag mail 
 messages from the old account to the new - but this would be tedious 
 even if I could transfer whole folders (I'm haven't tried this yet).
 

Is the old account a POP account? If so, you don't really have to do
anything, you can keep the folder as they are right now -- just go to
the account settings and disable all the check mail options instead of
removing the account, so Seamonkey won't keep bothering you with error
messages.

If you really wish to move the message folders from one account to
another, you might try this:

1. Close Seamonkey (very important)
2. Locate your profile folder: in XP, it's probably
C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[random string].default\
3. You will find a mail subfolder and, within it, more subfolders
named after your mail  news accounts.
4. Just move the files you will find within to the new place you wish
them to be, in the folder for your new DSL account. Some notes:
- You don't really have to move the small files with .msf extension;
Seamonkey will recreate them automatically the first time you open the
folder.
- File folders named something.sbd hold the archives to the mail
folders contained within mail folder something. For instance, if you
have a subfolder for inbox named oldstuff, then you will find: a
file called inbox, a folder called inbox.sbd, and a file called oldstuff
inside the folder inbox.sbd.
- You can rename files. However, if they have a corresponding folder, be
careful to rename both the same way.
5. Open Seamonkey: the folders will be found in their new places.


If it's an IMAP account, though, you probably should create new folders
-- either in the Local folders pseudo-account or in a phantom
account -- and copy/move the messages there -- manually. It's a lot of a
work, sure. But IMAP stores the messages in your ISP's computer, and
Seamonkey keeps just a local cache to speed up access -- which may or
may not be complete.

The Seamonkey address book is global (not linked to individual
accounts), so you don't have to do anything.

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Re: SeaMonkey E-mail and Copernic Desktop Search

2010-01-02 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 3/1/2010 02:12, George Carden told the world:
 Is there a way to force Copernic to index SeaMonkey e-mail?

Not a documented way, no. I have asked the Copernic people to add this
capability in the past, but they ignored me.

I have wondered for a while if it's possible to deceive Copernic into
accepting the Seamonkey mail folders as Thunderbird mail folders. It
would involve installing Thunderbird, hacking its config files to point
to the Seamonkey folders -- and then never using Thunderbird, just
leaving it there to deceive Copernic.

Some day I will get around to try it. I'll probably have to use an older
Thunderbird version -- 2.x, or even 1.x -- because I use Copernic 2.3

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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

2010-01-07 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 14:17, OldTimer told the world:
 Thanks, all good answers and offer me an easy way to deal with my 
 problem.  I will go with just leaving it be.  So, how do I stop SM from 
 opening the old account first when I open SM?

I'm not sure what you meant by that.

If you wish to change the way the accounts are ordered in the left pane
of the mail client, the easiest way I know of is by using the Folderpane
Tools add-on:
http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/folderpane.php
Unfortunately, that needs a bit of hacking too, since it is a bit old
and does not list itself as compatible with Seamonkey 2. Not a unique
situation, but there are plenty of messages teaching how to work around
the version compatibility check...

If you want to stop Seamonkey from trying to contact the old account,
just open the account settings and clear all the check email when...
options.

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Re: SM2 program default directory

2010-01-07 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 13:19, Ray_Net told the world:
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 Ray_Net wrote:
 Could someone tell us in what directory SM2 has been installed.
 Question is for windows os, default directory, not the profile.

 C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey2
 
 In my WindowsXP with SM1.1.X it is:
 C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey
 
 I find strange that with SM2 it is not:
 C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey2
 

Part of the reason for that is that because of the change in toolkits,
it was decided that the best course (safer) would be *not* to install
over the older version. So, keeping it on C:\Program
Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey was out.

Of course, it would be possible to use C:\Program
Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey2. But the other thing is, Seamonkey is not
really a Mozilla Foundation project. The old Mozilla Application Suite
was, Seamonkey is not. Seamonkey is a community project or whatever is
the jargon nowadays.

And then, not even mozilla.org's flagship, Firefox, uses the C:\Program
Files\mozilla.org\ folder anymore. It was kinda funny that the one piece
of software to use the mozilla.org folder wasn't a project of the MoFo...

Going forward, the change is probably for the best. New users looking
for the application folder are more likely to look for the program's
name than for mozilla.org.
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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

2010-01-08 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 21:47, OldTimer told the world:
When I was typing the question I wondered whether it was clear enough.
So, here's what happens: When I click on the SM icon on the desktop it
opens with the old account first and I have to scroll down to my other
accounts to click on Get Msgs (it's quite a scroll as I've got lots of
subfolders listed). I'd rather not have to do this each time.

Now that I think about it, it seems obvious that the first account
listed in the left pane is the one that shows up first. I like the
suggestion of re-arranging the order, but I don't think I could handle
any hacking. Perhaps there's an even easier way to do this?

Well, the bit of hacking I meant was to get around the version
compatibility checking. But actually, you only need to run this add-on
*once*, and it can later be disabled or removed. So, instead of a more
permanent workaround, you may just temporarily disable the compatibility
check.

So, going step by step:

1. Disable compatibility check. This page gives detailed instructions
(they are intended for Firefox, but they work the same in Seamonkey):
http://dotnetwizard.net/soft-apps/firefox-3-beta-4-disabling-extension-compatibility-check/
2. Install FolderPane Tools either from
http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/folderpane.php
or from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/258
3. After restarting Seamonkey, go to the Add-On Manager and click on the
Options button for Folderpane Tools. Use it to reorganize your
folders. Restart Seamonkey again
4. After you are happy with the way your mail windows looks, you may
disable/remove Folderpane Tools and reinstate compatibility checking (no
need to do all the stuff on step 1, the Add-On Manager will give a
one-click fix for this).
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Re: Selecting arbitrary text from a link

2010-01-08 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 8/1/2010 12:54, Martin Freitag told the world:
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 compositor schrieb:
 Can it be made possible please?

 It's possible already imo:
 http://www.viddler.com/explore/commander_keen/videos/17/
 regards

 This is not working here, i always got a selection from the beginning of
 the sentence till the cursor or if attacked by under ...a selection from
 the end of the sentence till the cursor.
 
 
 Hum, I guess it's time to verfify with a clean profile and file bug then 
 if still behaving that way.

I tried here. It works... at a fashion. I have to click somewhere else
before doing the click-and-drag thing. I have to begin the click and
drag at just the right spot and move it just so. And even then, there
are situations where it doesn't work, like in the middle of a long,
multi-line wrapped link. It seems more an artifact of the way
click-and-drag selection works than a feature.

To be sure, I never missed this functionality... but if the community
thinks it's a worthy enhancement, a better way would be to use a
modified click-and-drag. Such as, right-click-and-drag, or
alt-click-and-drag or whatever combination is still available -- in this
mode the browser would ignore the link and behave as if it were normal text.

And, by the way... wouldn't this be a core (Gecko) enhancement?

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Address Book Syncing

I have a few Gmail accounts I access by IMAP nowadays, in part so as to
be able to use them from home, from my PortableApps flash drive on the
road, or failing that by webmail. So I have been thinking about address
book synchronization.

I noticed that there are at least two (perhaps more) add-ons on A.M.O.
-- Zindus and gContactSync -- that appear to be able to do exactly that.
Zindus seems to be a bit more focused on Zimbra (which I don't use) than
gMail, while gContactSync is still rated as experimental. But from the
descriptions it seems gCS might do a better job.
I found no evaluation of them, no reason to choose one over the other.
Does anybody have any info?

And what about other ways to sync several Thunderbird/Seamonkey address
books without going through Gmail? I undertand that the gMail address
book and the Mozilla one are not a direct match, so not all info can be
synchronized... so a Seamonkey-to-Seamonkey automatic syncing (without
having to manually copy the address books) would be an interesting option.
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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

Interviewed by CNN on 9/1/2010 18:57, OldTimer told the world:

 The install instruction at the download site (www.chuonthis.com)stated 
 to save the file to [SeaMonkey] but I don't know which file to use.
 
 1) c:\Documents  Settings\sony\Application Data\Mozilla\Seamonkey ? 
 (There's also an extension subfolder in Mozilla).
 
 2) c:\program Files\Mozilla.org\SeaMonkey ?
 
 For the time being I've placed the download file (folderpane.xpi) on my 
 desktop.
 
 The install instructions are to open Tools and select Extensions and 
 click Install button.  The Tools menu in either SM folder (above) 
 doesn't have Extensions, but does have Add-on Manager.  However when 
 I click on Add-on Manager there's no folderpane extension listed.
 
 And I thought I was doing so well getting it downloaded to my PC.
 Can you take me through the next steps?

Oh, you are almost there. You already have the folderpane.xpi file, and
you already know where the Add-On Manager is.
Now:
- Open the Add-On Manager.
- Click on the second icon (Extensions) -- the one that looks like a
green jigsaw puzzle piece.
- Click on the Install button on the lower left.
- Select the folderpane.xpi file from where you saved it (apparently
your desktop) and open it.

There you go!

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Re: Is SM a dying product?

Interviewed by CNN on 9/1/2010 22:41, Devils_Advocate told the world:

 
 http://www.efax.com/help/faq
 

Funny, I could get into the site with no problem.

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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 21:47, OldTimer told the world:
 When I was typing the question I wondered whether it was clear enough. 
 So, here's what happens:  When I click on the SM icon on the desktop it 
 opens with the old account first and I have to scroll down to my other 
 accounts to click on Get Msgs (it's quite a scroll as I've got lots of 
 subfolders listed). I'd rather not have to do this each time.
 
 Now that I think about it, it seems obvious that the first account 
 listed in the left pane is the one that shows up first.  I like the 
 suggestion of re-arranging the order, but I don't think I could handle 
 any hacking.  Perhaps there's an even easier way to do this?
 

Oh crap, turns out that there IS an even easier way...

Philip Chee has made available a version of Folderpane Tools that will
install directly on Seamonkey with no need of disabling compatibility
check or anything.

It's here:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#folderpanetools

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Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-10 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 10/1/2010 16:07, Phillip Jones told the world:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, Ray_Net wrote:

 Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and
 change again the versions  this looks like Linux people compiling
 the kernel each month ... may be not this frequency, however we prefer
 to use a product instead of installing, installing .. again and again.

 Fortunately now that we have made the big move from the old XPFE backend
 to the new toolkit, subsequent upgrades won't be as traumatic. If things
 work out upgrades will be as seamless as Firefox upgrades. For one thing
 there will not be any more profile migrations.

 Phil

 You mean if the is a 3, 4, 5, 6 and so on of SM  That it will just read 
 your current Profiles?? If so that would be wonderful Just install the 
 new application and star right where you left off.
 

Well, let me put it this way: SM now is using the same infrastructure as
Firefox and Thunderbird, and plans on keeping doing so.

If FF+TB ever decide to change their profiles substantially so that a
profile migration will be necessary, *they* will have to solve that
headache first. And it will be a *big* headache, since there are
hundreds of millions of Firefox users out there. Personally, I think
they will try to find ways to make it work with the current profiles.

Even if a migration is needed, by the time the need to migrate reaches
Seamonkey (SM can wait a few months to a year before migrating without
much of a problem) the migrating subroutines will be very well debugged.

So, while there *might* be future profile migrations some time in the
far future (although none in the perceived horizon), it should be way
less traumatic than this one.

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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

2010-01-11 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 11/1/2010 22:12, OldTimer told the world:
 OldTimer wrote:
 But now I'm still left with the two questions:
 
 1) I understand I originally disabled the compatibility check.  How can 
 I be sure it has been enabled and if it hasn't, how can I enable it in 
 the light of my comments in my previous message?

Just open the Add-On list. If compatibility is still disabled, you will
see a warning and a button to re-enable it.

 
 2) Do you think any of this has anything to do with SM compose 
 freezing?  If not, I'll start another thread for this problem.

I'm unaware of any connection, but then, I don't use the Composer. But
you may try disabling Folderpane Tools now that you set things the way
you like -- no, the account order will *not* revert to the way it was
before.

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Re: Is SM a dying product?

2010-01-12 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 12/1/2010 01:43, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:

 Of course, some reported errors are just plain silly:
 
 Line 9, Column 47: Attribute BORDER is not a valid attribute. Did you 
 mean border?
 
 (from a frameset declaration)

Well, I didn't see the original page, but this is not a silly error in
XHTML. XHTML is case-sensitive, after all.

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Re: upgrade Seamonkey 1.1.7 to 2.0.2

2010-01-18 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 18/1/2010 14:25, Klaus Weber told the world:

 After a few windows crashes I found it to be a good rule to save data 
 not on the system partition but on a separate partition, better even on 
 a separate hard disk. Unfortunately I could not find a simple 
 possibility to move also documents  settings to another partition.


Well, there are a few tools and tutorials out there that claim to do
that. However, I never liked the idea of messing with the basic settings
of a system post-install -- too much room for it going spectacularly wrong.

A better approach, I think, is to do it *during initial setup*. nLite
(http://www.nliteos.com) is free and allows you to create a customized
XP setup disk, changing a lot of parameters -- including the default
location (and even names) of system directories. I did it when I
reinstalled XP a few years ago, and it worked without a hitch.

If you have Vista, there's a sister project called vLite
(http://www.vlite.net) that should be able to do the same. I never
personally tested it, though, so I can't give personal experience on this.

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Re: Transfer from Microsoft mail

2010-01-19 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 19/1/2010 14:56, Irwing told the world:
 I installed Windows 7 on a former Vista Home Premium computer.
 
 After that was not Microsoft Mail avaible any more.

Yeah, Win7 no longer includes Mail. M$ suggests downloading Windows Live
Mail instead.

 I made a backup but can not transfer it into Seamonkey,

Try the ImportExportTools extension -- it should be able to import the
.eml files Windows Mail uses.

 and the Seamonkey does not accept the Swedish letters å ä ö ( a with a 
 circle and with two dots and o with teo dots over)

Well, that surprises me, Seamonkey is supposed to be
internationalization-friendly. If this is correct, then it sure should
be fixed. Please give more details: in which context those letters
aren't accepted? Do you mean you can't read them or you can't type them?
In which part of the program.

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Re: compatibility with firefox 3.5?

2010-01-22 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 22/1/2010 04:08, Klaus Weber told the world:
 recently I realized that I could not reach google-related websites incl. 
 youtube any more, neither by seamonkey, firefox nor IE 8. As a 
 work-around I found that I have to start firefox 3.5 first and then 
 seamonkey. Then everything works well.

Since it affects IE 8 too, I very much doubt that this is a
Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey problem. It's more likely to be a networking
problem, perhaps a DNS problem.

Try changing your DNS server. http://www.opendns.com has detailed
instructions.

We shouldn't ignore the possibility of you having some malicious
software installed on your computer that's making things look wonky. Run
a good antivirus scan. Then download a good antispyware program (I had
good experiences with Malwarebytes Antimalware, but Ad-Aware and Spybot
Serch  Destroy are other good options) and do a scan with it too.

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Re: E-mail folders mapping

2010-01-22 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 22/1/2010 14:36, Rubens told the world:
 Hello,
 
 
 I have just found that GMail is throwing some legitimate e-mails I receive
 to their Spam folder.
 
 Is there a way to map that folder to a local one in Seamonkey, using the
 POP3 protocol, so I can check that folder directly from Seamonkey´s
 e-mail client ?

Not by means of POP3 -- POP3 really doesn't have any concept of folders.
And GMail hides spam from POP3, and I don't know any way of disabling
this. (Aside: the way GMail works does not really maps well to POP3
access -- you lose too much control, like in this problem you noticed)

However, IMAP4 access works very well, and allows access to the Spam
folder. There are instructions in GMail to set up Thunderbird with IMAP,
and the procedure is very similar in Seamonkey.


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Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-01-31 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 31/1/2010 00:26, Phillip Jones told the world:

 Anyway it won't fly, everyone's mind is made up. Would be an interesting 
 feature to create an extension that would put it back. But probably 
 wouldn't get approval  from the head big-wigs.

Personally, I don't understand all the complaints about not having
Javascript in mail. I don't see the point of having any type of active
code in mail, except for creating:
1- Stupid annoying Incredimail-like fluff
2- Privacy-violating stuff, like messages that phone home when you
read them
3- Viruses

P.s.: I'm not a big-wig. I'm not even a little-wig. I'm not a developer,
nor involved in any way with the Mozilla project or the Seamonkey
council beyond having filed a couple bugs.

And, by the way, I am one of those old farts that think HTML e-mail was
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Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-01-31 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 30/1/2010 22:50, Mike C told the world:
 I'm sticking with v1.1.18 because of the add ons (mainly RoboForm).
 
 I'd be curious to see how many of you are also sticking with v1.1.18 for 
 the time being.  Reasons??

I miss exactly *one* thing about 1.1.x: Multizilla. Yes, it's a pretty
*BIG* thing.

Still, that's not enough to make me go back. Better standards support
(which means I can use my bank from SM now), the Add-On Manager, more
add-ons and updated versions of some I already used... the new
DownThemAll by itself is worth the upgrade.

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Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-02-02 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 2/2/2010 12:30, Phillip Jones told the world:

 I really hope HJ gets inspired enough to do the migration.  He is
 the _true father of tabbed browsing_ .  So we all owe him a debt of
 gratitude.

 So, 1.1.18 it is then. :-/
 ahh so that's the rascal that's responsible.

Well, not quite. The concept of a tabbed interface apparently came from
IBM, as part of their CUA project. The first browser with something
similar to modern tabs was a development version of Opera. But they
kinda sat on it for a while, the feature was not very well known -- it
only came to their mainstream browser after others had reinvented it
independently.

Then, there was Netcaptor, which was a front-end for the IE engine,
that brought it to the general public. A couple others (including Opera)
followed suit.

HJ, the author of Multizilla, was the one who brought it to the Mozilla
project -- in the form of an extension. Dave Hyatt saw it, liked it, and
wrote his own implementation (not taken from Multizilla) for the trunk
Mozilla browser.

So, if you want someone to blame (I personally would thank), there's
quite a bunch of people. The guys at IBM and Opera for creating it, the
guys at Netcaptor for spreading it around, HJ for showing it could work
in a Mozilla product or Dave Hyatt for making it a core feature.

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Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-02 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 3/2/2010 00:51, Phillip Jones told the world:

 Is OE even still available. I've heard that MS has quit OE
 

Kinda-sorta. They gave it a makeover for Vista and renamed it Windows
Mail (now that's original...) -- and finally replaced that evil storage
system they had. Not sure if the new one is much of an improvement,
though. Then they added a few more stuff (mainly putting back Hotmail
support, which had been taken out a few years before) and offered it as
a free download, rebadging it as Windows Live Mail. And then they
pulled off the regular Windows Mail from Windows 7.

So Win7 doesn't come with a mail client, but OE's grandchild is
available for download.

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Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-06 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 4/2/2010 23:45, Rufus told the world:

 In that between Mozilla, Fire Fox, Goggle Chrome, Camino, Safari, et. 
 al. there are SO many things that look the same and/or function the 
 same.  Which leads to the thought that many of these people are 
 obviously cooperating and collaborating.
 
 My previous assumption was that only the Google and Apple teams were 
 paid professionals and that the SM team are all volunteer 
 professionals or amateurs...but if all pf these people are all 
 working together and following each other around...what's the big diff 
 between one set and the other then?

One reason you might see similarities between browsers is that they are
products designed to do essentially the same thing and, frankly, people
steal ideas back and forth all the time.

Another reason is that, with IE's stranglehold on the browser market
until a few years ago, none of the other players had the critical mass
to introduce new standards. So they learned to collaborate heavily in
standards. Even now, Microsoft is *still* bigger than all of them
combined. So they keep collaborating. The big split for a webdesigner
nowadays is IE/Non-IE, because all the other browsers pay a lot of
attention to standards compliance -- and therefore render similarly in
most cases. That is, unless you are doing something very fancy and
cutting-edge, a page that renders well in Firefox should render fairly
well in Chrome, Safari and Opera too -- but might break horribly in IE.

And a third reason is that when Apple decided to create their own
browsers, they hired people who previously worked on Mozilla -- being a
volunteer project, there was a lot of expertise around not tied by
contracts. Similarly, Google hired a number of Mozilla developers to
work in Chrome. Some ex-Mozilla developers also found their way into
Opera and even Microsoft.

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Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-06 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 5/2/2010 02:59, Rufus told the world:

 Where I get confused is that I read a lot of posts here that fall back 
 on - but we're just all volunteers, the other guys are paid...which 
 comes off sounding like I should expect less.
 
 What I really think is that everyone involved is equally competent - 
 paid or not.  And when things all start looking the same or similar 
 between products, it starts looking like you are all working together in 
 any event.  So...just what should I expect?
 

Seamonkey reuses a lot of stuff (like the entire innards, and parts of
the user interface) which was originally written for Firefox and
Thunderbird. So, yes, you are going go see similarities in
functionality. Also, there's a matter of general style -- Seamonkey
considers itself as part of the Mozilla family, so SM borrows some
styling cues from FFTB.

As has been mentioned, the Mozilla Corporation (responsible for Firefox)
and Mozilla Messaging (responsible for Thunderbird) have actual budgets,
with money coming part from grants (they are both owned by the Mozilla
Foundation, which is a registered charity) and part from business deals
like the Google advertising thing. So they can hire people to supplement
the volunteer developers. This is important for two reasons:
1- Paid developers can give eight-hour days, five days a week.
Volunteers can give one or two hours a day, and perhaps not even every
day. So the hours add up.
2- Some kinds of expertise are hard to come by in a volunteer basis,
because the job can't be easily split among a lot of people. User
interface design is a good example. You want a consistent UI, not a
patchwork, so you need somebody to head the whole project -- that means
a lot of hours, way above what can be reasonably expected from a
volunteer. So Firefox has full-time paid UI guys, and Seamonkey doesn't.
That's why Mac users are impressed with Thunderbird 3 -- a lot of work
went into making TB3/Mac mesh well with OSX. SM doesn't have this kind
of resources, so SM/Mac does not mesh as well -- the SM/Mac look is less
customized, more similar to the SM/Win and SM/Linux looks.

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Re: Email - Empty Trash deletes Trash icon

2010-02-09 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 9/2/2010 05:41, Geoff Walker told the world:
 I'm running SM 2.0.2 and just in the last few days I have been unable to 
 delete messages from the trash in the normal manner.
 
 Closing and re-opening SM then allows me to delete messages from the 
 inbox to the trash, up to the next occasion that I empty the trash, at 
 which point the trash icon itself is deleted and the deletion of 
 messages from the inbox can no longer be made (presumably because there 
 is no trash to dispatch them to).
 
 This behaviour persists even after re-booting the computer and even 
 after re-installing SM.
 
 Further investigation reveals that the alternative method of emptying 
 the trash by highlighting all messages in the trash and then clicking 
 the Inbox's delete icon appears to work fine - it is only File - Empty 
 Trash that leads to the deletion of the trash icon.
 
 Also it is only when there are messages in the trash that the icon 
 disappears.  File - Empty Trash has no impact if the trash is empty.
 
 Any diagnosis and/or suggestions, please?

Try the following:
1. Close Seamonkey. All windows of it.
2. Go to your profile folder, then look for files with the extension
msf inside the mail subfolders.
3. Delete the trash.msf file. There might be more than one, if you have
more than one Trash folder. Delete all of them.
4. Delete the extension-less Trash files too.
5. Open Seamonkey again: the trash files will be rebuilt, and hopefully
will work normally from now on.


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Re: Synchronize Mail ???

2010-02-12 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 12/2/2010 01:44, David Wilkinson told the world:
 Willard wrote:
 Is there a way to add only the new mail to PC#1 from PC#2 and visa versa
 in each profile using 1.1.18 on WinXPproSP3 ???
 
 Probably not an answer to your question, but this is what IMAP mail is for.
 

While IMAP is doubtless the best answer, sometimes it's just not
available -- many e-mail providers are still POP-only, or IMAP is a
premium option. I hope with users discovering that Gmail offers free
IMAP, that scenario will improve. But right now...

A workaround is to set up both computers to keep the messages in the POP
mailbox for a few days. That way, both can download the messages before
it being erased. It works very well for non-simultaneously-used
computers (say, one at home and one at the office), but some servers get
confused if both computers try to access the account at the same time.
Though I have never ran into that problem, even in a company where eight
people accessed the same mailbox, so I guess newer servers can handle it.

OTOH, I have ran into a ISP that ignored the keep messages in the
mailbox after downloading option -- no matter how you set your client
up, after downloading your messages were deleted. I talked to their
support, and that behavior was by design. So the POP-workaround is not
guaranteed to work in all cases either.

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Re: seamonkey vs thunderbird+firfox: less CPU and Mem

2010-02-16 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 16/2/2010 10:09, Daniel told the world:

 I wonder why people are so concerned with using as few cycles of 
 processor power as possible.
 
 If you've got 4Gigahertz of cycles (yes, I know), why are people so 
 pleased to just be using half a gig to do things and then sit there 
 twiddling your thumbs??
 
 Sure, if you're simultaneously using photo-manipulation programs and 
 drafting programs and the 1812 Overture playing in the foreground, sure, 
 you don't want to be using much of your cycles on WEB stuff, but 
 other-wise..

Well, there's the issue of power management. It's pretty important for a
notebook running on batteries, and shouldn't be overlooked even in a
desktop -- modern CPUs can adjust their power depending on software
demands. Less power means less heat which means that the system can run
the fan slower... which means less noise and more comfort for the user.

In more general terms, well, if you bought that ultra-powerful 16 Gb
Core i7 Extreme machine, you probably had some use for all that power,
beyond donwloading mail. So anything that is hogging onto that power
means that you aren't getting your full money's worth.

Conversely, if you are in a tight budget, you don't want to have to
upgrade your machine because your web browser runs like molasses.

Last night I decided to have a look at Nokia's Ovi Suite, which is
supposed to be a replacement/upgrade to the old Nokia PC Suite. Pretty
nice, overall, but... it turns out that there is a background component
in Ovi Suite that hogs an entire processor core pretty much all the
time, *even when the Ovi Suite is closed.* That's unacceptable in my
book. I searched around, and there was a lot of people complaining about
it. I ripped out the Ovi Suite and went back to the old one until Nokia
fixes this.

People want to run a lot of programs simultaneously nowadays; the
assumption that the computer has power to spare is just wrong -- if any
app hogs too much CPU, or RAM, or keeps accessing the hard disk for no
good reason, that means that the other apps won't be able to work normally.

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Re: SM1 and SM2 config/profile locations with Windows Vista

2010-02-17 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 17/2/2010 20:30, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:

 First of all, Vista and Windows 7 are the same.
 ...
 
 What???
 
 They may share some common features for a particular purpose, but they 
 are most certainly NOT the same!

Well, 7 is an improved version of Vista. It inherits most of the big
changes Vista introduced, and from a maintenance point of view, it's
very similar. The 7 is actually a misnomer -- its version number is
6.1, with Vista being 6.0.

Kinda like the similarity between Windows 2000 and Windows XP: as long
as something didn't need/refer to a new feature introduced in XP, most
tasks could be performed in the same way in both. By the way, 2000 was
version 5.0 and XP was 5.1...

So, they are not the same but they share a lot more than some common
features for a particular purpose. Siblings would be a good word for it.

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Re: Email Replies Backwards

2010-02-19 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 19/2/2010 01:50, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:

 I had a client write me in January after I had interspersed my 
 respective replies after each paragraph of his message:
 
 I always wanted to ask you to write your response above my message and 
 not mix with my original text. It takes me a long time to read your 
 response and often I just give up.
 
 It bleeping blew me away. I thought I was doing him a favor by putting 
 each answer with the corresponding question.
 

People are used to do the things one way and get confused with any other
way.
Many people, particularly in the corporate world, are used to looking at
e-mail like it is just a newfangled version of paper letters. So they
expect to see a full letter and refer to separate documents as
necessary -- previous letter being an attachment for convenience only.

Personally, I think top-posting is a silly anachronism, in that it keeps
imposing the restrictions of old, non-editable media on new tech. But
some business people argue that bottom-posting with interspersed
comments blurs the distinction between the original message and the
response, and takes the original message quotes out of context.

My guess is that your client doesn't really grok how the quote marks
work, and so kept having to reference his original message to you in the
sent messages folder, like if you hadn't quoted his message at all.

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Re: newest version

2010-02-20 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 19/2/2010 22:36, David E. Ross told the world:
 On 2/19/2010 12:51 PM, JeffM wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 Page designers that design pages for w3c [compliance]
 should add a notation.
 /This website was written to World Wide Web Consortium Standards
 and should show properly on the vast Major of Web browsers

 There's even a tag for that.
 Put this in an HTML file and view that with IE, then Gecko:
 !--[if IE]br
 Only Internet Exploder can see this text.br
 ![endif]--br

 /If not please contact the creator of the browser that does not,
 and please tell them you will discontinue use of
 [their] product until [it] meets specifications/.

 ...or simply:
 This site best viewed with a standards-compliant browser.
 http://google.com/search?q=%22+best.viewed.with.a.standards-compliant.browser
 When combined with the tag shown above
 and using large red text, it grabs the attention.
 Using the flash tag would put the icing on the cake.

 The funny thing about w3c is MS is one of the Signatories of W3C

 It's easier to do damage when you're one of the Fifth Column
 than when you're an overtly declared enemy:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
 
 If appears that more is required to sniff for IE.  I tried your example.
  The same text showed in both IE 7 and SeaMonkey 2.0.3.
 

Try this:

!--[if IE]
  div id=ienote
p class=warningCompatibility Warning/p

pThis website was written to a href=http://www.w3.org/;World
Wide Web Consortium/a specifications and should display properly on
the vast majority of Web browsers on the market today./p

pIf you see rendering problems please contact the creator of the
browser that you used, and tell them you will discontinue use of their
product until it meets specifications./p
  /div
![endif]--

You may style the note above as you wish, for instance, like this:

  #ienote {border: thick red outset;
   background-color:yellow;
   color:red;
   padding:0.5em;
   clear:both;}
  #ienote p.warning {font-weight:bold;
 font-size:larger;
 text-align:center;}

I tried using blink, but IE apparently doesn't support it -- even as a
style, which IS in CSS1. So it's useless in this context.

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Re: Yenc decoder

2010-02-21 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 20/2/2010 15:49, Juiceman told the world:
 Im wondering why Seamonky has never had a yEnc decoder built into the 
 program? Also why people post yEnc pictures? Does yEnc encoded pictures 
 save that much space or bandwidth?

Well, the Mozilla project is all for following (and fostering)
standards. The problem is that yEnc is not a recognized standard -- and
besides, it has serious design flaws. And you should think twice about
implementing/endorsing a spec that *its own author* criticizes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEnc
http://www.faerber.muc.de/temp/20020304-yenc-harmful.html

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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 20/2/2010 22:19, Monica told the world:
 I have an updated antivirus program but still got virus in 4 of my mail 
 folders. F-secure can´t remove them it seems so I am wondering if I can 
 just delete the mail folders where the viruses sit. Does anyone know ? 
 

Well, yes, in principle you could just delete the entire folders. But in
many cases this is like curing dandruff by decapitation -- you get rid
of an infected message, but you lose your good messages with it. And
some folders shouldn't be deleted from within Seamonkey.

Viruses in email are attachments; furthermore, they are almost always
attachments in undesirable messages (spam). So you might delete just
those messages.

Some combinations of antivirus and e-mail software are unable to delete
the infected attachment automatically; but they usually offer some
alternative way of rendering it harmless. For instance, my antivirus
can't delete infected email attachments, but it can *rename* then so
even if you extract the attachment, it won't be seen by the system as an
executable file.

To be safer while doing this maintenance, you should set up your
Seamonkey to view messages as Simple HTML or Plain text -- this
option can be found on the View menu of the mail window. Some
malicious messages could have crafty HTML coding geared to increase the
chances of infection, which Simple HTML would ignore.

Anyway... to sum it all up, do the following:
1. Check if your antivirus offers another option to neutralize the
virus, such as renaming.
2. Set Seamonkey to display messages as Simple HTML or Plain text
3. Look for and delete the problem messages.
4. Empty your Deleted messages folder.
5. Compact the message folders to get rid of any virus remains.

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Re: Yenc decoder

2010-02-24 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 21/2/2010 15:47, Rick Merrill told the world:

 Only advantage of yenc is that it can break up a posting into several 
 parts and the user can put them together again.

Actually, no, it does that in a very brain-damaged way, by relying on
the SUBJECT line. There are better ways of doing that.

And it also identifies the data block in a way that's only a slight
improvement on the way UUENCODE uses, while MIME has solved that problem
ages ago.
Because of this, there's a problem with yEnc sometimes being detected as
binary and being re-encoded as Base64, which not only negates the yEnc
size advantage but may end up breaking the attachments.

There's a proposal to use yEnc encoding within a MIME framework. That
could be nice, since the real advantage of yEnc is that it uses 8-bit
encoding, instead of the 6-bit encoding used by Base64. Unfortunately,
current Usenet binary groups seem stuck into the it's good enough
mindset and nobody is trying to finish the proposal.


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Re: lost inbox messages on 2.0.3 install over 1.1.7

2010-02-28 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 28/2/2010 22:47, u...@domain.invalid told the world:
 I just loaded Seamonkey v. 2.0.3 over 1.1.17 and seem to have lost 
 43,000 messages in the Inbox.   The install seemed normal and asked if i 
 wanted to import a range of information, including mail which was selected.
 
 It imported all other boxes and profiles except my Inbox.
 
 Any suggestions appreciated.

Well, this doesn't look as a lost messages case, it looks like a
failed to import messages case. The messages are PROBABLY still where
they always were -- in the old Seamonkey 1.1.x profile. They just
weren't copied to the new profile.

In this case, the simplest thing to do would be to copy the old inbox.
file to the new profile. I really don't remember right now where the old
profile is located, but the new one should be on
C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[random string].default\Mail

I must warn, while mail folders are pretty safe, most other stuff
shouldn't be simply copied from the old profile to the new one -- there
were format changes and whatnot that can cause problems. The recommended
procedure is to use the import tool.

By the way, 43,000 messages is a pretty big inbox. In my experience,
after a few thousand messages, performance degrades a lot. You might
wish to eventually move older messages to another folder.

And... just checking: when you say you loaded 2.0.3 over 1.1.17, did
you by chance force it to install in the same folder as 1.1.17? Because,
well, there are technical reasons why the default install folder has
changed... mainly, that the program changed enough that installing over
the old one is a Bad Idea.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.03

2010-03-01 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 1/3/2010 20:59, Frank Van Eynde told the world:
 I have installed version 2.03 on another newer computer and am unable to 
 send messages.
 
 I received the following notification
 
 
 Sending of message failed
 An error ocurred sending mail:Unable to authenticate to SMTP server 
 shawmail.no.shawcable.net.
 It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you have chosen  to  
 use authentication.
 Uncheck Use name and password for that server or contact the server 
 provider
 
 Any assistance to solve this problem is appreciated.

This is a known issue. In the old Seamonkey, if you chose to use
authentication or encryption in your POP/SMTP connections and the server
didn't support it, Seamonkey silently fell back to
unencrypted/unauthenticated mode and did the connection anyway.

The new Seamonkey 2 doesn't do that -- if you ask for higher security
and the server doesn't provide it, it simply doesn't connect.

I didn't see the discussion, but I believe that this change was
introduced for one or both of the following reasons:
(a) The old setup gave users a false sense of security -- they enabled
the security options believing their traffic was protected, when in
fact it was not.
(b) The new setup makes it a little bit harder to spoof your mail
servers (by a virus, for example), since the spoofer will have to
provide compatible security features as well. The old way the spoofer
could use a very basic server with no security and it would fool Seamonkey.

So, you should go to the settings window for your SMTP connection and
untick the Use name and password box for it.

As an aside: I would worry about your ISP allowing non-authenticated use
of the SMTP server -- that's what's known as an open relay, a thing
that spammers love. If spammers begin routing crap through it, the
server could be blacklisted -- and then, regular users like you wouldn't
be able to send messages.

There are some alternate ways to keep spammers from SMTP servers -- such
as restricting the sender IP or demanding a successful POP connection
before allowing the SMTP send -- but I have noticed that most ISPs that
used those alternate means have switched to password authentication. I
suppose that those alternate means must have shortcomings... I can
imagine a couple, and there are probably more.

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Re: Email trouble with v2.0.3 - maybe

2010-03-03 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 3/3/2010 20:07, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:

 Nope, that doesn't work either.
 
 I get exactly the same list of utilities I described before.
 
 Do I need to use the browser from the Evil Empire?

No, I figured it out. The form in the main page is broken, sure, but
when you get that list of utilities, click on the email dossier
utility. That will give you a real working form.

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Re: Email trouble with v2.0.3 - maybe

2010-03-03 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 3/3/2010 20:44, MCBastos told the world:
 Interviewed by CNN on 3/3/2010 20:07, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:
 
 Nope, that doesn't work either.

 I get exactly the same list of utilities I described before.

 Do I need to use the browser from the Evil Empire?
 
 No, I figured it out. The form in the main page is broken, sure, but
 when you get that list of utilities, click on the email dossier
 utility. That will give you a real working form.
 

Or better yet, go directly to this page:

http://centralops.net/co/EmailDossier.aspx

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Re: Remote Content

2010-03-04 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 4/3/2010 23:58, FDVS told the world:
 How do I tell the Seamonkey email browser to accept all remote content, 
 instead of asking me if I want to show it or not on each email?  It is 
 time-consuming to respond to each email in order to removed that info 
 banner.
 Thanks
 Dave

Well, if you wish to disable the warning for *all* messages regardless
of where they come from, you can go to Edit/Preferences/Mail 
Newsgroups/Message Display and untick the box besides Block images and
other content from remote sources.

For a more limited version, you can authorize remote content from a
particular sender... *if* the sender is in your address book.

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Re: Mail in the In box just disappeared

2010-03-04 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 5/3/2010 00:32, Lee told the world:
 Using Vista and SM 2.03 and I clicked on a new email and when
 I did they all disappeared.  Any ideas. Tried to restore but
 also no luck.

You say the messages disappear after you read them? You are probably
with the display options set to show only unread messages.

Go to the menu View/Messages and select All.



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Re: Disable specific Seamonkey components

2010-03-08 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 8/3/2010 07:38, Daniel told the world:
 
 Why  do people *HAVE* to compose HTML emails?? Why not just a text email 
 with a link to the really necessary HTML stuff?

Unfortunately, like or don't like it, HTML mail is here to stay.
Removing this capability now wouldn't help Seamonkey to win users --
many, many people use it, and would miss it if removed.


 
 If this is what MS Word was made for, why doesn't MS fix it so it does 
 the job right??

Well, that's Microsoft's job.


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Unicode fonts

2010-03-10 Thread MCBastos

Ran into a curious issue today... it's not really a problem, at least
not for me, but still curious.

Let me establish the parameters first. I'm running XP SP3 with the
extra fonts (Far Eastern and right-to-left) installed, so it should
have a pretty good Unicode font coverage. Not only that, but I have the
Code2000 font installed also, which should plug most holes Microsoft
left in their coverage. I have the following browsers available:
- Seamonkey 2.0.3 (primary browser)
- IE 8 (fully patched)
- Firefox 3.6
- Opera 10.5
- SRWare Iron 4.0.280 (equivalent to Google Chrome 4)

So, I'm fooling around on Wikipedia and opened this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_units_of_measurement

The display of the Burmese characters, though, wasn't working right. A
few of the characters were replaced by little squares with four hex
characters, like on the Unicode BMP Fallback font. Which I had
downloaded but not installed, by the way.
Tried other browsers, with the following results:
- Firefox: identical to SM
- Opera: a few *less* Burmese characters displayed correctly. The ones
that didn't show were replaced with thin blank rectangles.
- IE8: *No* Burmese characters were displayed. Instead, I got blank squares.
- Iron: Same results as in IE8.

Gecko browsers still got the best results of the lot, so I guess I
shouldn't complain (I don't even read non-Latin scripts, I install those
extra fonts just because I think the blank characters are ugly). But
still, a few things puzzle me:
1. Why Gecko and Opera achieve only *partial* success? Is this a problem
with Microsoft fonts? Or does Burmese needs special fonts? All the
browsers seemed to display correctly other scripts, such as Thai and
Chinese.
2. Where did those fallback glyphs came from? As I said, I don't have
the Unicode BMP Fallback font installed, and the other browsers don't
show them. Is that a Gecko feature?
3. Even with all those Unicode fonts installed, the page still failed to
display correctly in any browser. Yet I imagine that it should be
displaying correctly for *someone* -- at the least, the person who wrote
the entry. I wonder if this page only works correctly with Oriental
versions of Windows? Or Macs, perhaps? Or is something really hosed with
my computer?

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Re: Unicode fonts

2010-03-10 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 10/3/2010 13:32, MCBastos told the world:

 The display of the Burmese characters, though, wasn't working right. A
 few of the characters were replaced by little squares with four hex
 characters, like on the Unicode BMP Fallback font. Which I had
 downloaded but not installed, by the way.

Ummm, forget it. Further investigation revealed that no, mainstream
Unicode fonts don't support Burmese -- but that there are a few that do.
Furthermore, I installed the Unicode BMP Fallback font and Gecko
browsers now *only* show the fallback glyphs -- and they aren't the
internal ones, those look slightly different. I have no idea what Gecko
(and Opera) was using as replacements for Burmese.

However, further experimentation revealed the following:
- Installing a Burmese font (SIL Padauk) solved the problems with Gecko
and Iron, but had no effect on Opera and IE.
- Furthermore, installing fallback fonts (SIL Unicode BMP Fallback and
Apple Last Resort) *broke* the correct displays for Gecko browsers --
they would display the fallback fonts instead of the Padauk glyphs.

Well, at least I *imagine* those glyphs are correct. I can't read
Burmese, I was only trying to get rid of the ugly blank boxes...

I have to have a look on Bugzilla, there's probably a relevant bug
covering this...

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Re: Unicode fonts

2010-03-11 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 11/3/2010 15:47, Gabriele told the world:

 what's the reason why I do see your (interesting) explanation about Korean 
 and Dēvanāgari, but I only see squares on Wikipedia, exactly as MCBastos, 
 for Burmese characters ?
 I'm on OSX with SM 2.0.3

As I mentioned in the follow-up message, it turns out that Burmese is a
script which is NOT covered in most Unicode fonts. Not even Code2000
includes it. So, you need a special font for it. There are a few linked
from the Wikipedia Burmese script page. I tried it with the free one
from SIL International, and it worked all right. But it came packaged in
a Windows executable, so it probably isn't the best choice for a Mac.
The other choices mentioned in Wikipedia will probably be easier to unpack.

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Setting fonts for plaintext messages

2010-03-13 Thread MCBastos

After years and years of using Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey products, I
realized one thing...

Plaintext message display settings are tied up with the default
monospace font settings for HTML pages. That is, when reading plaintext
mail, news and blog messages, you get the same font as you get when you
are reading a monospaced-formatted block in a webpage (as long as the
webpage designer didn't specify the font, that is).

I'm not sure that's a good idea. Those are different problems -- a
monospaced text block inside a proportionally-spaced page should have
its font and size chosen in order to harmonize aesthetically with the
proportional-spaced text -- and maybe, deliberately choosing a font that
highlights the fact that it *is* monospaced, such as a typewriter-style
font. As monospaced text is usually a small part of it, readability can
take a hit in order to satisfy aesthetics. That's probably why the
default font size (on Windows, that is) for monospaced fonts is 13 while
for the other fonts is 16 -- most monospaced fonts looks larger, so
it's set to a smaller size to compensate.

In a full-text message, readability concerns should dominate. So we
should be able to choose a font and size on its merits alone, without
concerning ourselves on how would it fit with other fonts. So it's not
unreasonable to desire, say, a larger font for messages, or one that
looks less like a typewriter or computer terminal. (I have seen a few
monospaced fonts that manage to disguise the fact that they *are*
monospaced remarkably).

So... is there any way to set a font preference for plaintext messages
separately from the one used on HTML rendering? (Perhaps it could be
used also for non-HTML rendering on the browser window, such as text
files). Or should I open a RFE bug?

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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-03-20 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 20/3/2010 12:09, John Klein told the world:
 I am a copywriter with no Internet technology backround, and I need a way to
 create several HTML email messages for transmission by 3rd party email list
 owners.  Their instructions say that the email message must be in pure HTML
 code, no style sheets  or templates.
  
 Can I use SeaMonkey to create these HTML email messages?  If so, could
 someone point me in the right direction to get started.  Thanks.

Well, you could, in theory. But HTML in e-mail is a very badly
standardized thing, and it got worse since Microsoft rolled out Outlook
2007 -- which uses MS-Word as a rendering engine (very, very bad support
for modern standards), instead of Internet Explorer (merely weak support
for same standards). The gist of it is that creating a HTML e-mail that
renders acceptably in a variety of clients (both e-mail programs and
webmail sites) is a kind of black art -- a bit like creating a website
in 1999, only worse because now we *know* there is a better way.

Any HTML message created using an automated WYSIGYG tool, be it
Seamonkey Composer or Adobe Dreamweaver, *will* fail to render correctly
for a large share of recipients. The fancier you get, the more problems
will appear. If you aren't comfortable with hand-coding and researching
tricks all over the Web, I advise you to keep it very plain and simple.

JeffM's comment came off a bit harsh, but he does have a point: there's
no well-supported standard for HTML email. What *is* supported is
plaintext -- that will display everywhere, in the way you intended. But
I expect that's not what your customers want to hear.

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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-03-24 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 22/3/2010 03:35, David E. Ross told the world:
 On 3/20/10 7:09 AM, John Klein wrote:
 I am a copywriter with no Internet technology backround, and I need a way to
 create several HTML email messages for transmission by 3rd party email list
 owners.  Their instructions say that the email message must be in pure HTML
 code, no style sheets  or templates.
  
 Can I use SeaMonkey to create these HTML email messages?  If so, could
 someone point me in the right direction to get started.  Thanks.
 
 Please read my http://www.rossde.com/internet/ASCIIvsHTML.html.  Then
 convey to your clients the information under both Findings and
 Conclusions.
 
 While some individuals prefer HTML-formatted E-mail, others don't.  See
 my http://www.rossde.com/internet/ASCII_mail.html to see why the
 latter can be quite militant about opposing HTML-formatted E-mail.
 
 Finally, if the messages are actually newsletters, see my
 http://www.rossde.com/internet/newsletters.html regarding why
 newsletters are best published as Web pages with brief E-mail messages
 merely announcing -- and containing links to -- new editions of the
 newsletters.
 


David, I noticed that in your e-mail samples you couldn't determine the
sender's user-agent in more than half the messages. You might try
installing the Display Mail User Agent extension -- it is quite good
in figuring out the MUA from obscure telltales, even if there's no
explicit user-agent string. That way, you could find a bit more about
the senders -- I notice that both the most error-prone and the most
error-free mail clients went unidentified, for instance.

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Re: Moving from 1.1.18 (now default) to 2.0.3 (to become default).

2010-03-26 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 26/3/2010 21:23, Frog told the world:
 I have only one Profile in 1.1.18 and only one profile in 2.0.3 (it was 
 migrated from 1.1.18 as a part of the installation of 2.0.3 on my system).
 
 I need some basic-level instructions on how to update 2.0.3 with 1.1.18 
 information.

Well, since you say you only used 2.0.3 for testing, and 1.1.18 has a
complete set of your data, my suggestion would be to delete the 2.0.3
profile and re-import the data from you 1.1.18 profile.

Steps:

0. Make a backup.
1. Close 2.0.3.
2. Open 1.1.18, go to your e-mail accounts setting and set all of them
to delete messages after a few days (this is a precaution against you
accidentally opening 1.1.18 in the future). Disable the option to load
QuickLaunch on boot.
3. Close 1.1.18. Make sure the QuickLaunch icon near the clock is closed.
4. Open the 2.0.3 Profile Manager -- it's in the Seamonkey folder under
the Start Menu.
5. Use the Profile Manager to delete your current (test) profile.
6. Use the Profile Manager to import the profile from your 1.1.18
installation.

This SHOULD get everything or near to it from your old Seamonkey.
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Re: Avast SSL TLS Message

2010-03-27 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 27/3/2010 22:26, Cecil Bankston told the world:
 My Avast antivirus suite keeps showing a message that says I should 
 disable SSL  TLS in my e-mail client so it can scan the incoming 
 messages.  I didn't see any obvious way to disable those security 
 functions only in Seamonkey e-mail, as the preferences settings appear 
 to apply to both browser  e-mail.  Is following Avast's advice possible 
 and if so is it advisable?

I'm using the new Avast 5 too, and I have seen those messages. It
perhaps could be a bit clearer, but it indeed is feasible.

You have to disable TLS/STARTTLS/SSL in each e-mail server
configuration, in the Server Settings page.

For instance, if you use Gmail, it demands you set up connection
security as follows (Gmail dos not allow unencrypted connections):

IMAP -- SSL/TLS on port 993
POP3 -- SSL/TLS on port 995
SMTP -- SSL on port 465, or TLS/STARTTLS on port 587

Other ISPs exact settings may be slightly different. Some accept
STARTTLS in the same port as the regular (unencrypted) connection.

The purpose of all this is to ensure all communication between your mail
program and the mail server is encrypted, and therefore safe from
eavesdroppers. But there is one problem: your antivirus can't check
messages in transit either, and therefore is unable to block
virus-carrying messages before the program receives them.

What Avast proposes is that you turn off the encryption option in the
e-mail program and let *it* handle the encrypted connection with the
mail server. When Seamonkey tries to access a mail server, Avast will
interpose itself in the data flow. The communication between Seamonkey
and Avast is in clear, while the communication between Avast and Gmail
(or whatever is your mail provider) will be encrypted.

Avast is pretty smart about setting itself up, too. When you open an
encrypted channel to a mail provider, Avast will notice it can't check
the messages and pop up that warning -- but at the same time, it will
take note of the security settings for that particular server.
So, if you turn off the connection security for that server, the next
time you attempt to download e-mail Avast will remember those settings
and take care of the encryption for you.

If you ever need to hand-tweak those settings, you can find them in
Avast under the Real-Time Shields/Mail Shield/Expert Settings/SSL
accounts. You have both encrypted and unencrypted accounts, you may
notice that the unencrypted servers are also listed there, with security
set as none. That's normal.

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Re: Saving Web pages to disk

Interviewed by CNN on 29/3/2010 02:06, Robert Traynor told the world:
 Hi All,
 
 I am using SeaMonkey 2.0.3 and latest Java, noScript etc.
 I have disabled ALL AddOns.
 
 When I save a web page lately, a folder name_files is NOT
 created and all links remain pointing to the original web page.
 
 Is there something to adjust in preferences etc..?
 It did not used to do this, all was normal but I noticed this
 behaviour change about a week or so ago.
 

Look at the file type box in the bottom of the Save File As window.

1. If it says All Files, then you get the raw page source, that is,
the file will be strictly the same thing that Seamonkey received from
the web -- no modifications, no fixing the syntax, no redirecting of
images, no inserting comment about the original page URL.

2. If it says Web page, HTML only, then you get the HTML page after it
was fixed by the tag-soup parser.

3. If it says Web Page, Complete, then you get all images, scripts and
such in the subfolder you expected.

The difference between case 1 and 2 may not look obvious, but sometimes
it makes a lot of difference. For instance, Geocities used to tack
advertising code to the top and bottom of the pages the user uploaded,
in flagrant violation of the HTML standard -- the content came not only
outside the body element, it came outside the html element! But the
tag-soup parsers managed to make sense of this and rebuild a
somewhat-sane tree.

Of course, if you wanted to get the original page without the tacked-on
garbage, this reparsing actually made things more difficult, because it
mixed them all. Saving the page as All files made it far easier -- you
just had to strip the top and bottom of the file.

Seamonkey will remember the option you used last. So, if you
accidentally changed the option from Web page, all files to one of the
others, it will remain that way until you change it back.

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Re: Moving from 1.1.18 (now default) to 2.0.3 (to become default).

Interviewed by CNN on 29/3/2010 14:12, Frog told the world:

 I believe everything from line 5 (Profiles) through line 16
 (news.mozilla.org)is related to SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  Is that
 correct?
 
 I believe everything from line 17 (SeaMonkey) to the end of the
 data presentation is part of SeaMonkey 2.0.3.  Is that correct?

Yes, those sure look correct.

 
 I presume that making a backup would involve copying everything from
 line 1 through the end of this presentation to a location on my E
 drive.  Is that correct?

Yes, that's a good approach. You probably could limit the backup to the
1.1.18, but let's be paranoid and get everything. Better safe than sorry
and all that.

 Once the backup has been made, I would then proceed to the Profile
 Manager to delete my SeaMonkey 2.0.3 default profile.  I would
 accomplish this by going to--startSeaMonkey(making sure that the
 SeaMonkey selected belongs to 2.0.3)Profile Manager (click Manage
 Profiles...)make sure the default profile is selected/highlighted
 and then click Delete Profile.  At this point, my SeaMonkey 2.0.3
 default profile is gone--is that correct?  Will this delete all of the
 entries included in the above data presentation that pertain to
 SeaMonkey 2.0.3?

Actually, I'm not sure if it will delete the files from the disk. Maybe
it will just ignore those files from now one. You should check later,
and delete if necessary. But anyway, not having the old profile listed
might be enough to satisfy Mozilla.

 Your instructions at this point are a little confusing to me.
 MCBastos indicates that I should Use the Profile Manager to import the
 profile from my 1.1.18 installation.  I was unable to find any
 indication of how to import information from 1.1.18 while in the
 SeaMonkey 2.0.3 Profile Manager.  Thus, I presume that I would have to
 create a new profile before the import option would appear.  Is that
 correct?

No, I don't think so. I think you are supposed to start the import
process without creating a profile. Mark's explanation is probably more
correct than mine in this particular.

 Mark Hansen indicates that once the 2.0.3 default profile is gone, I
 can then launch SM 2.x again and it will ask if I want to migrate my
 1.1.18 profile information to a new 2.0.3 profile.  Is this correct?
 The migration of this information during installation of 2.0.3 worked
 just fine, so let's hope that process will go smoothly again.

Yeah, that sounds right. If you don't have a default profile, Seamonkey
will ask you if you want to create one or import one. I guess I goofed.


 Once the new profile is established for 2.0.3, I will change the
 settings in 1.1.18 to check Leave messages on the server and uncheck
 Leave messages on the server' on 2.0.3.  I will make this change here--
 Mail windowEditMail  Newsgroups Account
 Settings...f...@verizon.netServer SettingsLeave messages on server.
 Is that the correct location for making this setting change?

That's right. Only, I would change this setting right *before*
migration, right before closing 1.1.18 for the last time.

The reason for this is that, if a message arrives after you close 2.0.3
and before you open 1.1.18 post-migration, you don't want 1.1.18 to
delete that from the server.

 I hope, with knowing the answers to the above, I can make SeaMonkey
 2.0.3 my default browser.

Well, by now 2.0.4 is available...

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 That's not a lot of RAM, but should be enough. After reading my morning mail 
 this copy is 600MB, so depending on what you read and browse it can get big. 
 The 
 only times I've seen a problem such as you describe was when the temp space 
 was 
 low, even when other filesystems had space. Windows is usually configured to 
 let 
 all disk be used for any reason, so 40GB is plenty.

OTOH, even if there's plenty of space on disk, if there is A LOT of old
temp files, Windows will sometimes get wonky. Well, wonkier than usual.
Cleaning up the temp folder tends to help.
A good freeware tool for that is CCleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com)

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