Re: Works in IE not in SM
On 01/21/2012 02:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote: http://chez-momo.fr/mona-lisa.html Did someone know why SM cannot render the picture ? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193886 FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Markup_Language http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/12/07/moving-to-standards-based-web-graphics-in-ie10.aspx ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 01/22/2012 12:57 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: David E. Ross wrote: When I try to install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1, I get the following error: BetterPrivacy could not be installed because it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.6.1. I get this even when I attempt to install directly from the AMO site (not my usual practice). With the ACR installed, compatibility checks disabled or SM 2.7, you can install the penultimate version of the add-on from its Version History page. By the way, selecting the link https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/ redirects to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/. This is because AMO seems to only check the latest add-on version, which is no longer declared compatible with SM (author's fault). ... Jens, any possiblity that the compatibility reporter can include a box/tick that the extension works if the install.rdf is modified? For example: with SM 2.7b4 (linux) the following are fine with a modified install.rdf: - Novell Moonlight 3.99.0.2.99 - Password Exporter 1.2.1 But, if the install.rdf is modifed (to say 'em:maxVersion2.8.*/em:maxVersion' and works, the compatibility reporter denotes: Marked as compatible by developer when it actually wasn't. But the add-on works when modified locally. Yes, I understand that it is up to the add-on developer to keep this updated (install.rdf), and that is not the issue I am pointing out. The issue is how to sort out compatibility when the install.rdf has been modified locally _and_ the add-on works when modified. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 01/22/2012 05:23 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 1/22/12 4:52 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
Jens, any possiblity that the compatibility reporter can include a
box/tick that the extension works if the install.rdf is modified?
For example: with SM 2.7b4 (linux) the following are fine with a
modified install.rdf:
- Novell Moonlight 3.99.0.2.99
- Password Exporter 1.2.1
But, if the install.rdf is modifed (to say
'em:maxVersion2.8.*/em:maxVersion' and works, the compatibility
reporter denotes: Marked as compatible by developer when it actually
wasn't. But the add-on works when modified locally.
Yes, I understand that it is up to the add-on developer to keep this
updated (install.rdf), and that is not the issue I am pointing out. The
issue is how to sort out compatibility when the install.rdf has been
modified locally _and_ the add-on works when modified.
...
Note that BetterPrivacy 1.68 as downloaded from AMO has install.rdf
containing the following:
!--SeaMonkey--
Description RDF:about=rdf:#$dLacB4
em:id={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
em:minVersion=2.0a1
em:maxVersion=2.6.*
/
Should not this work with SeaMonkey 2.6.1?
IMO yes.
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Re: [Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 01/22/2012 05:53 PM, NoOp wrote:
On 01/22/2012 05:23 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 1/22/12 4:52 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
Jens, any possiblity that the compatibility reporter can include a
box/tick that the extension works if the install.rdf is modified?
For example: with SM 2.7b4 (linux) the following are fine with a
modified install.rdf:
- Novell Moonlight 3.99.0.2.99
- Password Exporter 1.2.1
But, if the install.rdf is modifed (to say
'em:maxVersion2.8.*/em:maxVersion' and works, the compatibility
reporter denotes: Marked as compatible by developer when it actually
wasn't. But the add-on works when modified locally.
Yes, I understand that it is up to the add-on developer to keep this
updated (install.rdf), and that is not the issue I am pointing out. The
issue is how to sort out compatibility when the install.rdf has been
modified locally _and_ the add-on works when modified.
...
Note that BetterPrivacy 1.68 as downloaded from AMO has install.rdf
containing the following:
!--SeaMonkey--
Description RDF:about=rdf:#$dLacB4
em:id={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
em:minVersion=2.0a1
em:maxVersion=2.6.*
/
Should not this work with SeaMonkey 2.6.1?
IMO yes.
BetterPrivacy Version History
Version 1.68 Released January 20, 2012 138.2 KB Works with Firefox 3.5 -
11.*
However when I attempt to install in 2.7b4 I see that it thinks that I
have Firefox 2.7, when in actuality I have:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120119
Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/versions/?page=1#version-1.68
Add to Firefox
Not available for Firefox 2.7
So I think there is an issue with the AMO not detecting the correct
version of SeaMonkey.
However it works if I use FF:
Mozilla/5.0 (Ubuntu; X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1
Or:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20110929 Firefox/10.0a1
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release
On 01/31/2012 09:58 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: David H. Durgee schrieb: When will the official release of 2.7 occur? I am seeing it in the repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1 as the current release. It will be released some time later today (US time). If that repo does have it, then it's made by someone who doesn't care about our release politics. Before everyone get's uptight about this - it's a Personal Package Archive (PPA) and is for development testing is not for general use: https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev [Seamonkey Development] And yes, Joe builds from the same comm-release. He's asked that I test the builds; I'm using one now. I'll test that against the standard Mozilla build to see if there are any issues in the PPA version. Just makes me happy I'm not the release manager any more. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POP3 mail server crash only in Windows XP
On 01/30/2012 07:39 PM, Marisa Ciceran wrote: I only spot-check the threads here, so I apologize in advance if this issue has already been discussed. I have SeaMonkey version 2.6.1 installed on my Windows XP Professional desktop as well as on my Window 7 Home laptop. Yesterday, Seamonkey mail crashed in Windows XP, generated a crash report yesterday, and I had to reboot several times before even the SeaMonkey browser opened again. Incoming mails now generate an unknown POP3 server error, which has prevented incoming emails since around noon (EST) today. Meanwhile, so such problem exists in the Windows 7 laptop. It's helpful if you provide the crash report URI: about:crashes click on the latest one then supply the URI See: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Breakpad for more information. Also be sure to read/understand: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/legal/privacy [in particular starting at: Interactive Product Features] Note: nothing nefarious there, but you should read understand the privacy info. Sample from one of my crash reports: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-63c6e408-1f78-440a-9a56-9d5c22120123 I uninstalled SeaMonkey 2.6.1 and reinstalled it to not effect. then tried 2.5 which made no difference. The only thing I haven't done is uninstall and remove all traces of SeaMonkey from REGEDIT. I am NOT going to install Windows 7 on my trusty work-horse Windows XP computer for the obvious reason. Does anyone here have any clues as to how I can get incoming POP3 mails again? Uninstalling will not remove the user profile (for good reason). I suspect that you've a corrupted user profile; this is the reason why it also crashes with 2.5. Easy ways to test is to: 1. Restart with no addons enabled to see if an addon is an issue: Help|Restart with Add-ons Disabled If that doesn't work, then create a clean test profile: 2. Create a test profile and see if that crashes. Back up your existing profile first, then Tools|Switch Profiles - that will bring up the profile manager. You can then click 'Manage Profiles' and 'Create Profile' to create a test profile. You can then switch to the test profile and see if SM still crashes. I doubt that it will if it does you do indeed have a system problem. If it doesn't (that's my bet) then you have a profile issue. You can add one of your POP3 accounts to the test profile (just be sure to 'leave mail on server' in server setting so that you don't accidentally download all of your message in the process delete them from the server. You can go back and remove the msf files in your mail folder. In any event, don't go messing about in the Windows registry unless you really know what you are doing. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Checking servers in background?
On 01/30/2012 05:51 PM, Rufus wrote: Does SM check servers in the background without informing the user? http://www.seamonkey-project.org/legal/privacy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.7
On 02/01/2012 07:48 AM, David E. Ross wrote: The SeaMonkey home page at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ says that SeaMonkey 2.7 is now available. However, the Mozilla FTP server at releases.mozilla.org only has 2.6.1. And... the 64bit linux link on the http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7 page: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.7/contrib/seamonkey-2.7.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 gives: Not Found The requested URL /pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.7/contrib/seamonkey-2.7.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 was not found on this server. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: repeat???
On 02/02/2012 09:13 AM, Ray Davison wrote: Daniel wrote: I you need do is set yourself up an email account in SeaMonkey. I seem to remember that, sometimes, when you have set up a news account, you don't get the option to set up a Mail account, but I think there is an about:config fiddle which would allow it. There has never been any restriction on the number of mail and news accounts you can have. And it does not require any fiddling in about:config. ... Daniel didn't say there was a restriction on the number of mail and news accounts. And *yes* there can be an issue with the account wizard. I think Daniel was referring to this issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636622 [cannot add email account - wizard stuck on newsgroup account] and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861 [After creating news account through clicking news URL Account Wizard is broken (skips account type selection, bound to invalid news account] Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: repeat???
On 02/02/2012 06:10 PM, Ray Davison wrote: NoOp wrote: ... Daniel didn't say there was a restriction on the number of mail and news accounts. And *yes* there can be an issue with the account wizard. I think Daniel was referring to this issue: So, I take it the account manager doesn't like you to change your mind in the middle of a transaction? And if you do want to you need to exit account manager and rerun? From comment 1: Workarounds: Set mail.server.serverX.valid to true or delete invalid news account. I only know about the bug(s) because I've experienced the problem in the past. ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?
Normally I use google (http://google.com) with cookies turned off. This afternoon I noticed that no goole links work unless I enable cookies. However, if I do the same with Firefox 10.0, the links still work. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Additional things I've tried: o switched profiles to a clean test profile o restarted with add-ons disabled Steps to reproduce: 1. Ensure that all cookies are turned off (using prefbar or Edit|Preferences|Privacy Security|Cookies. 2. Clear all private data (Tools|Clear Private Data) with the exception of saved passwords. 3. Go to http://www.google.com and enter 'test' in the search box. Search click on any link that comes up. See if you are able to view that link. 4. Go to http://www.google.com and enter 'test' in the search box. Now right click a link and select either open in a new tab or window. See if you actually see the linked-to webpage. On 4 I get something similar to: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=testsource=webcd=1ved=0CDYQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2Fei=kMkxT4uNGYuGiQLu2oDTCgusg=AFQjCNFOu11ntRBzX7MsPNhB_fDzErp8qg And, if I copy paste that exact URL into Firefox 10.0, I get the website of test.com. Also, if I turn cookies back on and accept a cookie from google.com, the links et al work. [Note: I've nothing to do with test.com, I just used that link as an example.] Using the above, I am able to search, link, etc., on yahoo.com etc., without issue. It is only google.com, and only since a few hours ago that this started. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7 but experiencing the exact same issue on a completely different machine with the 64bit version of SM 2.7 (final) and working Firefox 10.0. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?
On 02/07/2012 05:21 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Using the above, I am able to search, link, etc., on yahoo.com etc., without issue. It is only google.com, and only since a few hours ago that this started. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7 but experiencing the exact same issue on a completely different machine with the 64bit version of SM 2.7 (final) and working Firefox 10.0. I've just replicated on the Windows versions of SM 2.7 (even pre-beta) and Firefox 10. So the issue is not OS build specific. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?
On 02/07/2012 08:04 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 2/7/12 5:38 PM, NoOp wrote: On 02/07/2012 05:21 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Using the above, I am able to search, link, etc., on yahoo.com etc., without issue. It is only google.com, and only since a few hours ago that this started. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7 but experiencing the exact same issue on a completely different machine with the 64bit version of SM 2.7 (final) and working Firefox 10.0. I've just replicated on the Windows versions of SM 2.7 (even pre-beta) and Firefox 10. So the issue is not OS build specific. Windows XP SP3 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 SeaMonkey/2.7 I just now successfully used Google for a search with cookies blocked after I deleted all prior Google cookies. Is it possible you have a problem with an extension? Try your searches in Safe Mode. Thanks for testing David. Yes, I did try both in safe mode, and with a completely new profile - had the same results on two two different linux machines (one 32bit, one 64bit), and one Windows XP Pro SP3. I guess the question still remains why Firefox 10.0 works, but SeaMonkey 2.7 didn't. I'll need to put a sniffer on the wire and see if I can figure out the difference. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?
On 02/08/2012 07:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 2/8/12 4:58 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Tested with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20111228 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/ Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 This one seems to work (Win7): Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 Okay. I went to http://www.google.com/ with all cookies blocked and no prior google.com cookies. Then I SUCCESSFULLY did your #3 and #4. I actually tried several links, and all worked for both #3 and #4. Earlier today I tried on 2.7 and got: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=testsource=webcd=1ved=0CDYQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2Fei=exU0T8ibCcXy2QXpwayXAgusg=AFQjCNFOu11ntRBzX7MsPNhB_fDzErp8qg (I still have the tab open from this morning). But now testing succesfully redirects to test.com. Checked on the other machines: 2.5 the 64bit 2.7, WinXP 2.7, and they all work now. Odd, as I've changed nothing (on any of the machines) - so I can't help but think it may have been a glitch on google's side. I'll switch back from yahoo! to google see if it borks. Again, thanks for testing David - much appreciated. Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Image display in SM 2.7 - Win 7
On 02/09/2012 01:32 PM, Jim Taylor wrote: JB wrote: Sorry, my apologies. A typical URL, is as follows: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19222829.html but it is also happening with all pages I'm looking at. If you see the tack/info/task bar running across the picture, that then is what I'm getting. Not just this picture but every one I view. This has only ... I can verify that I get the same thing on that page with SeaMonkey 2.7 and that IE displays it correctly. 64 Bit Windows 7 Home Premium - Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7. But I can't help with why. I haven't had any problems with the pages I go to and haven't seen anything like that anywhere else except the link you posted. I ran that page through validator.w3.org and it has 68 markup errors and 11 warnings and 204 CSS errors but I don't know if one of them is causing the display problem or not. However, IE 9 does display it correctly. Jim Also occurs (bar is about 1/4 up from bottom of photo) on: Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.61 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0a1) Gecko/20120210 Firefox/13.0a1 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7 Does not occur (bar is at bottom of the photo) with: Evince Web Browser 2.30.2 Chromium 16.0.912.77 (Developer Build 118311 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10 Note to JB: you'll need to reply to this thread rather than starting a new one again. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: full newsgroup hierarchy names
On 02/07/2012 07:12 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Mike wrote: When I use Seamonkey to read newsgroups I find it awkward that all newsgroup names that I'm subscribed to always show up with the hierarchy abbreviated to single letters in Seamonkey, for example i see: m.s.seamonkey instead of mozilla.support.seamonkey in the thread pane. In many cases this is very confusing as for example I'm subscribed to more than one newsgroup where the last name in the hierarchy is 'seamonkey'. Is there any way to force Seamonkey to display the full hierarchy names rather than the one-letter abbreviated ones? A google search turned this up in seconds: In about:config set the preference mail.server.default.abbreviate to false. If you are not familiar with about:config, see: http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config. It is not included in that article. Even http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings doesn't explain what it means. And, you'd have to go back quite a few years (2005) to find the only other instance in mozillaZine: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Showing_full_names_of_newsgroups It would be nice if that were an option in Edit|Preferences|Mail Newsgroups|Message Display. Or View|Layout. Most folks won't know what to search on. I also forget sometimes. I sort it out by going to about:config and searching for 'abbrev'. But that is only because I know it's there. @Mike: I add this to my 'user.js' file: user_pref(mail.server.default.abbreviate,false); That way when I create new profiles on my other machines, I simply copy the user.js file over. However, that won't help others the next time the question comes up. You might want to open a SeaMonkey wishlist/enhancement bug report perhaps someone will find time to include it as a selectable option. Or join in on this Thunderbird one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251706 [Expose pref to control newsgroup names abbreviation] (opened in 2004 last commented on 2006-04-17 - so yes I'd recommend opening a new 'SeaMonkey' wishlist/enhancement bug report). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still waiting for 2.7 Beta to update to 2.8 Beta.
On 02/10/2012 08:54 AM, WLS wrote: Nightly updates are working fine, but my 2.7 Beta has yet to update to 2.8b1, or 2.8b2 released today. As an FYI - was just bumped to 2.7.1: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.7/ http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2012/mfsa2012-10.html Be interesting to know if the 2.8b2 includes that security fix. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can SM 2.0.14 be copied to a new system separately...
On 02/14/2012 08:44 AM, chicagofan wrote: which has SM 2.7 already, without any problems/conflicts? I would like to copy my present SM 2.0.14 program to my new laptop, instead of copying off some files. Is that possible? I may go back to 2.0.14 if this will work. bj http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.7/ First item under known issues. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what's happening w/ SM?
On 02/14/2012 01:14 PM, Bzzz wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:44:43 -0500 Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote: I don't know what you mean by became bloat. If you're having problems Yes, I didn't used the right expression. For example, to answer your post I selected the SM window where such a site is opened (http://television.telerama.fr/tele/grille.php), it took almost 6 seconds to switch from claws-mail to this window and the site goes up to 100% CPU (Athlon-XP1600+) for 6 more seconds. W/ the former SM version, it didn't take ANY cpu raise and the switch took less than a second (and non, I'm not swapping: 900MB free RAM) You probably should file a bug with your distro. In a comparison of Opera SM 2.7.1 in opening http://television.telerama.fr/tele/grille.php the result are the same: 13 seconds (from a low speed California US connection). Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.61 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Firefox/10.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.7.1 Your X-Mailer identifier is: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) so no idea what your actual SeaMonkey build is. with specific pages, could you tell us which pages and specifically what the problems are? Most folks in here are willing to help. It might be a little tougher than usual, because you're using Iceape. I don't know what other changes Debian made other than rebranding. Debian only uses another name because of a non-free policy (touching the logo if I remember well); but the code's exactly the same otherwise. That's an issue that you need to sort out with your disto. It could very well be that your distro version has issues - file a bug report with them. Come back when you've installed and tested the versions from: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.1 ... All this story reminds me exactly the gnome3 phenomena: they changed all! shortcuts, display, windows places, etc and they don't take any criticism (even the constructive ones) in account. And this is relevant here why? This is what gets me mad and why I'm gonna uninstall SM ASA p/w will be extracted for further restore in a product that don't take users for dummies. SM is following *exactly* the same scheme as certain sites that change their terms, indicating that from now to now on your data can be shared to whatever commercial partner... without me! I suspect that your distro versions have been so poorly maintained that you are just now catching up with the changes from SeaMonkey 1.x to 2.7.x. Excuse me... that should be 'Iceape' instead of SeaMonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what's happening w/ SM?
On 02/14/2012 10:43 PM, Bzzz wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:04:57 -0800 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: In a comparison of Opera SM 2.7.1 in opening http://television.telerama.fr/tele/grille.php the result are the same: 13 seconds (from a low speed California US connection). I wasn't talking about opening, just switching from claws-mail window to SM window that contains this site. so no idea what your actual SeaMonkey build is. 2.7.1 I see... http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenameskeywords=iceape So you are running an unstable rolling development version of Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable Yet you've no time to file a bug report on your own Debian modified version of SeaMonkey: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=iceape;dist=unstable and instesad rather introduce yourself on this forum for the very first time by posting rants about your distro upgrade? Well done. ... Anyway, this is now a closed issue as I switched to Opera. Cool. Appears that you've not yet figured out how to use Opera for nntp or mailing lists... X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) I wonder if Opera have a support mailing list/nntp server to flame Opera doesn't satisfy your needs. Here, I'll start you off on the right track: http://www.opera.com/support/ BTW, I've nothing against Opera: $ apt-cache policy opera opera: Installed: 11.61.1250 Candidate: 11.61.1250 Version table: *** 11.61.1250 0 500 http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable/non-free i386 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status But prefer: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Firefox/10.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.7.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does Linux SeaMonkey v2.7.2 have a chrome directory?
On 02/17/2012 08:57 PM, Ant wrote: I cannot seem to find them in my Debian box's SM2 profile directory. I did find IceWeasel (aka Firefox) v3.6.27's though. I am trying to edit user*.css files. Thank you in advance. :) /home/username/.mozilla/seamonkey/profilename/chrome $ ls /home/username/.mozilla/seamonkey/profilename/chrome userChrome.css userChrome.css_backup userContent-example.css userChrome.css~ userChrome-example.css ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does Linux SeaMonkey v2.7.2 have a chrome directory?
On 02/18/2012 02:41 PM, Ant wrote: On 2/18/2012 1:41 PM PT, NoOp typed: I cannot seem to find them in my Debian box's SM2 profile directory. I did find IceWeasel (aka Firefox) v3.6.27's though. I am trying to edit user*.css files. Thank you in advance. :) /home/username/.mozilla/seamonkey/profilename/chrome $ ls /home/username/.mozilla/seamonkey/profilename/chrome userChrome.css userChrome.css_backup userContent-example.css userChrome.css~ userChrome-example.css $ pwd /home/foo/.mozilla/seamonkey/deleted.default $ ls -all total 13144 ... FYI, I downloaded and extracted SeaMonkey's .tar.bz2 (don't remember what version) from Mozilla's server into my newly installed Debian stable's ~/bin/seamonkey2 back on Thanksgiving 2011 week. Since then, I used its updater to keep it updated. Looks as if you may be right. I just checked on another (test) machine and it has no Chrome folder. The folder/files on this machine dates back to 2011 2008. So obviously nothing got replaced since last year. If nothing else, you could add your own populate with: http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/locales/en-US/profile/chrome/userChrome-example.css But yes, it is odd that userChrome.css isn't included. I reckon Jen's will come along shortly and point us to the FAQ or Release Notes mentioning this omission. :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Two versions of SM 2.0.15pre
On 02/18/2012 08:36 AM, Michael Graubart wrote: As I use a Mac G4 with OS 10.4.11, SeaMonkey 2.0.15pre is the last one I can run on my system. I have been using the US English one (which was the only one I could find when I installed it several years ago), but I have now discovered that the UK English version can still be downloaded. When opened, under 'About SeaMonkey', both builds are given as 1.9.1.20, with date indicated as 20110606. But if I use the Mac's information, the US one was modified on 10 June, 2011, i.e. 4 days later than the UK one. Moreover, the file size of the US one is somewhat bigger than that of the UK one. I would prefer to use the UK one, but I should be grateful to know what differences other than in language there are in the functionality (and bugs, etc.) between the US and UK versions. Why is the US one larger than the UK one, for instance. The MozillaZine SeaMonkey forum seems to be inaccessible at present. WAG (Wild A.. Guess) is that the UK version has a smaller dictionary than the US version. BTW: where are you finding 2.0.15pre? I only see 2.0.14 on: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#old ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Recent updates
On 02/18/2012 08:49 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2012 00:05, JAS told the world: Why is it that the last few updates accessed from the check for updates downloads the entire new SM program instead of just the new updated files? Or is it that there are that many new changes in the program? Just wondering. Well, for anything *but* the most recent update, it will download the full install file. Mozilla (and Seamonkey) only offer a patch for the most recent update. For instance, if you waited too long to upgrade from 2.6.1 to 2.7, and when you did upgrade 2.7.1 had already been released, then you get the full download. Even if you are upgrading from 2.7.0 to 2.7.2, for that matter. (Why not download the consecutive patches instead? Well, because it doubles -- or triples -- the users' annoyance, for comparatively small savings in bandwidth). And... sometimes the patch download fails, and then Seamonkey (or Firefox, or Thunderbird) downloads the full upgrade as a fallback. The Firefox Thunderbird updates were about 1.8MB each. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Recent updates
On 02/19/2012 08:12 AM, JAS wrote: NoOp wrote: On 02/18/2012 08:49 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2012 00:05, JAS told the world: Why is it that the last few updates accessed from the check for updates downloads the entire new SM program instead of just the new updated files? Or is it that there are that many new changes in the program? Just wondering. Well, for anything *but* the most recent update, it will download the full install file. Mozilla (and Seamonkey) only offer a patch for the most recent update. For instance, if you waited too long to upgrade from 2.6.1 to 2.7, and when you did upgrade 2.7.1 had already been released, then you get the full download. Even if you are upgrading from 2.7.0 to 2.7.2, for that matter. (Why not download the consecutive patches instead? Well, because it doubles -- or triples -- the users' annoyance, for comparatively small savings in bandwidth). And... sometimes the patch download fails, and then Seamonkey (or Firefox, or Thunderbird) downloads the full upgrade as a fallback. The Firefox Thunderbird updates were about 1.8MB each. My last update to 2.7.2 was 21.6 mb and all went well with no problems. That was my point... both Firefox and Thunderbird only required ~1.8MB to upgrade from 10.0.1 to 10.0.2, SM required ~21MB to go from 2.7.1 to 2.7.2. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.7.2 + Newsgroup Msgs being marked as unread
The release notes for SM 2.7.2[1] show that a bug[2] was fixed regarding newsgroups: major MailNews bug has been fixed: Under certain conditions, entire newsgroups were marked as unread and authentication data (user name and password) was lost (bug 695309). However I've just noticed that all of the messages in this newsgroup that I read yesterday (Feb 19) were marked as unread when I signed in today. Anyone else experiencing similar? Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 [1] http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.7/ [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695309 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash Player for Linux will only be available via Google Chrome's Pepper API
On 02/22/2012 03:13 AM, Kertesz Laszlo wrote: Hello On the Adobe blog there an interesting post: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html Quote: For Flash Player releases after 11.2, the Flash Player browser plugin for Linux will only be available via the “Pepper” API as part of the Google Chrome browser distribution and will no longer be available as a direct download from Adobe. Adobe will continue to provide security updates to non-Pepper distributions of Flash Player 11.2 on Linux for five years from its release. How will Seamonkey handle this situation? Five years on Flash 11.2 doesnt sound promising... I'm also interested in a response. However, I think it's time for Linux to abandon *all* things Adobe... Adobe abandons Linux By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols | February 22, 2012, 10:41am PST Summary: Adobe has announced its future plans for Flash and AIR and Linux isn’t part of them. Flash will still, however, be available to Linux desktop users who use Google’s Chrome Web browser. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/adobe-abandons-linux/10418 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: libpng graphics library vulnerabilities in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser?
On 02/22/2012 05:28 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: WLS wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 22/02/2012 12:34, Philip TAYLOR told the world: MCBastos wrote: In http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26922231- security forum thread, Error: Either this forum does not exist, or it is members only! Could you please offer a link to a publicly-available reference to what exactly is this vulnerability? Publicly available here; perhaps you are trying to connect from an IP address associated with something undesirable ? No, Ant got it -- it's the hyphen at the end, that Seamonkey interprets as NOT being part of the URL (and I never would guess it's supposed to be). All right, fine. Clicking on the link as posted, when in SM 2.7.2 , is not interpreted correctly by SM! It is interpreted correctly in ATT/YAHOO webmail (being accessed via SM 2.7.2) and possibly when the news article is being read in another reader e.g. I.E. So is this a bug in the SM browser? Has it been entered into BUGZILLA? or is it an already known old bug? The link is incomplete in that post, as far as I can see. It should be, and I think I addressed how to get to it in another post. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26906111-Mozilla-Security-release-to-fix-libpng-graphics-library-vuln No. The link in the message is complete. But SM does not pick up the trailing - when you click on the url. All you have to do is to add the missing - at the end of the url (after it fails) and do a carriage return so that SM retries with the corrected url. Or highlight the url including the -, copy it to the clipboard (ctrl-c), and use ctrl-v to enter the full url from the clipboard to the url entry blank. Or enclose in : http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26922231- Does that work? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: libpng graphics library vulnerabilities in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser?
On 02/22/2012 06:31 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Or enclose in : http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26922231- Does that work? But that probably wouldn't work on a url that wraps. Such as: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod-Touch-2nd-Generation-Battery-Replacement/1131/1 The URL on the newsgroup shows: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod-Touch-2nd-Generation-Battery-Replacemen t/1131/1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java
On 02/23/2012 01:00 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 23/02/2012 14:05, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the world: So the answer is: unless you know of a specific web site(s) that actually do use Java applets, you can safely remove it - or at least disable it, possibly via the use of the PrefBar extension (also makes it easy to manage many other things, including en/disable JavaScript). http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org The prefbar does have its points, but to be truthful, the new add-ons manager makes it so easy to disable a plugin (no restarting Seamonkey necessary, even), that if you don't need the other features, it's overkill for this purpose. There is no need to restart SeaMonkey when turning Java (or Javascript, or Flash, or Cookies, or Popups, etc) on/off via PrefBar. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java
On 02/24/2012 05:09 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Tom Stoudt wrote: This is the clock page that uses Java: http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java When Java is turned off it lets you know. The other one listed above is only a time snapshot. OK, here's the error I get: Java Plug-in 1.6.0_30 Using JRE version 1.6.0_30-b12 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\Users\[sanitized for security reasons] ... Seems your Java is a bit out of date. Even linux has: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_31 File: /opt/java/32/jre1.6.0_31/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Version: And to answer your question from your other post So do I or don't I have Java enabled?: ensure that cookies and java is turned on and then go to: http://java.com/ - click on 'Do I have Java?' - that will take you to: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp - Click on 'Verify Java Version' If your Java is current, then is should come back with: Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 31). (Windows and linux) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java
On 02/24/2012 08:34 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: NoOp wrote: On 02/24/2012 05:09 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Tom Stoudt wrote: This is the clock page that uses Java: http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java When Java is turned off it lets you know. The other one listed above is only a time snapshot. OK, here's the error I get: Java Plug-in 1.6.0_30 Using JRE version 1.6.0_30-b12 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\Users\[sanitized for security reasons] ... Seems your Java is a bit out of date. Even linux has: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_31 File: /opt/java/32/jre1.6.0_31/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Version: As out of date goes, the difference between 1.6.0_30 and 1.6.0_31 is pretty minor. What am I, a week behind? My Java console says Java Update was last run at 1:52 PM on 2/24/12. I see... so a 'critical' security release is pretty minor: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/javacpufeb2012-366318.html And to answer your question from your other post So do I or don't I have Java enabled?: ensure that cookies and java is turned on and then go to: http://java.com/ - click on 'Do I have Java?' - that will take you to: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp - Click on 'Verify Java Version' If your Java is current, then is should come back with: Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 31). So is that such a BFD that the time website won't work at all? So let me get this correct: you ask in the other post So do I or don't I have Java enabled?, I provide you with information to verify: 1) that you have java enabled (or not), and 2) which version of Java you have enabled. You then come back with dick swinging 'BFD' remark (were you shy to say 'Big Fucking Deal'... or did you have something else in mind?). And the Fine, I'll update if you think it'll make you happy. below. Just who (oh let's do the WTF... shall we) do you thing you are? Someone attempts to assist you and you fire off with BFT and the following. Fine, I'll update if you think it'll make you happy. You do that. Bye now. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?
On 02/26/2012 03:21 AM, Philip Chee wrote: On Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:07:33 +, Philip TAYLOR wrote: This is a new build system, and Seamonkey has been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month. Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage the default links that Seamonkey provides, and followed the link first to mozdev.org and then to mozillaZine. I was staggered to find that not only does the latter proudly state : MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation. I suppose we should re-point this to: http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/category/mozilla-news/ More in: Help|Help Contents (SM 2.7.2): - Troubleshooting goes to: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/start/1.5/troubleshooting/ (404 - but you can download Firefox from that page) - PluginDoc goes to: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/ (Which was helpful in it's time... but still refers to Adobe Reader 7.0, JRE 1.4.2 etc.) ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?
On 02/27/2012 02:48 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:45:48 -0800, NoOp wrote: More in: Help|Help Contents (SM 2.7.2): - Troubleshooting goes to: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/start/1.5/troubleshooting/ (404 - but you can download Firefox from that page) Right. We need to discuss what we want to link instead. Ideally a page that already exists, contains good information, and can be maintained easily. See the bug linked below for initial suggestions. - PluginDoc goes to: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/ (Which was helpful in it's time... but still refers to Adobe Reader 7.0, JRE 1.4.2 etc.) Needs to be changed to http://www.mozilla.org/plugincheck/. Please file a bug to cover all the outdated links you've found. Thanks. I added a comment here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703687 Greetings, Jens Thanks Jens. Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage
On 02/27/2012 02:28 AM, Daniel wrote: ... Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!! Very few problems on either! If you mean: From: Daniel snip User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 from your other post. The WOW64[1] in your URI tells me that is standard SeaMonkey (32bit) running on your Win7 64bit O/S. Please have a look in C: Program Files (x86) and I think you'll find your SeaMonkey installation there. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64 quote WoW64 (Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit) is a subsystem of the Windows operating system that is capable of running 32-bit applications and is included on all 64-bit versions of Windows—including Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, IA-64 and x64 versions of Windows Server 2003, as well as 64-bit versions of Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and Windows 7. In Windows Server 2008 R2 Server Core, it is an optional component. WoW64 is designed to take care of many of the differences between 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows, particularly involving structural changes to Windows itself. /quote ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: gmail ...
On 02/16/2012 03:15 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 16/02/2012 20:07, hawker told the world: There are plenty of valid reasons to use POP over IMAP, especially if you have a limited bandwidth connection (such as cell phone). I have some of my e-mail accounts IMAP, and some POP. There are valid reasons why I use both and different ones for different accounts. Actually, for limited bandwidth IMAP is a rather good choice, since you don't run the risk of downloading 20mb attachments by accident. You don't even have to download the message *body* if you know from the header that it can wait until you are somewhere with better/unlimited bandwidth. You don't run the risk of downloading 20mb attachments by accident with POP if you have your settings properly set. On the other hand, I see no options to configure IMAP on SeaMonkey to: 1) fetch only headers, and 2) limit download size. I do however have these options for a POP account: Edit|Mail Newsgroups Account Settings|account|Fetch headers only I note that setting isn't available for an IMAP account - I wonder why as I have a greater chance of downloading attachments automatically without it... particularly since the option below also isn't available in IMAP settings. Edit|Mail Newsgroups Account Settings|account|To save disk space, do not download: x Messages larger than __ KB I note that setting isn't available for an IMAP account. I just sent a msg with a 2.5MB attachment from my POP account to one of my IMAP accounts... the POP account is set to not download msgs larger than 300KB, so it shows me the first part of the msg and I need to click to download the rest. On the IMAP account, as soon as I click the msg header it just automatically downloaded the entire 2.5MB msg. Given the above, I'm confused about your comments regarding IMAP v POP. Is there a setting that I missed in the IMAP section? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: gmail ...
On 02/28/2012 06:05 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 28/02/2012 21:24, NoOp told the world: You don't run the risk of downloading 20mb attachments by accident with POP if you have your settings properly set. On the other hand, I see no options to configure IMAP on SeaMonkey to: 1) fetch only headers, and 2) limit download size. I do however have these options for a POP account: Option 1 is not available because that's the standard behavior of IMAP. IMAP will ALWAYS download only the headers initially, and the message body only when actually opening the message. The whole point of IMAP is keeping the message stored on the server, so it doesn't prefetch messages. I note that setting isn't available for an IMAP account - I wonder why as I have a greater chance of downloading attachments automatically without it... particularly since the option below also isn't available in IMAP settings. Edit|Mail Newsgroups Account Settings|account|To save disk space, do not download: x Messages larger than __ KB Well, since email in IMAP is only *temporarily* stored on local disk, the save disk space justification is just not there. But... Found it: Edit|Mail Newsgroups Account Settings|account|Synchronization Storage|Disk Space: Don't download: x Messages larger than __ KB Odd that it's in a different menu than POP (Edit|Mail Newsgroups Account Settings|account|Disk Space). I guess it was easier to replace 'Disk Space' with the 'Sync' menu then do a oh and by the way: Disk Space: Don't download: x Messages larger than __ KB. I note that setting isn't available for an IMAP account. I just sent a msg with a 2.5MB attachment from my POP account to one of my IMAP accounts... the POP account is set to not download msgs larger than 300KB, so it shows me the first part of the msg and I need to click to download the rest. On the IMAP account, as soon as I click the msg header it just automatically downloaded the entire 2.5MB msg. Given the above, I'm confused about your comments regarding IMAP v POP. Is there a setting that I missed in the IMAP section? No, you are right in that Seamonkey does fetch the attachments when the message is opened. I *thought* that it would fetch only the message body, leaving the attachment to be manually requested. I tested, and noticed that yes, the (undesirable) behavior you described was happening. So I went to Google to figure it out. There's a pretty complete writeup of the issue here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Entire_message_fetched_when_opening_a_IMAP_message Thanks for that (and your comments/testing), this helps to clarify the 'not so subtle' differences between the two. Gary ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: gmail ...
On 02/28/2012 06:33 PM, NoOp wrote: On 02/28/2012 06:05 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 28/02/2012 21:24, NoOp told the world: You don't run the risk of downloading 20mb attachments by accident with POP if you have your settings properly set. On the other hand, I see no options to configure IMAP on SeaMonkey to: 1) fetch only headers, and 2) limit download size. I do however have these options for a POP account: Option 1 is not available because that's the standard behavior of IMAP. IMAP will ALWAYS download only the headers initially, and the message body only when actually opening the message. The whole point of IMAP is keeping the message stored on the server, so it doesn't prefetch messages. I note that setting isn't available for an IMAP account - I wonder why as I have a greater chance of downloading attachments automatically without it... particularly since the option below also isn't available in IMAP settings. Edit|Mail Newsgroups Account Settings|account|To save disk space, do not download: x Messages larger than __ KB Well, since email in IMAP is only *temporarily* stored on local disk, the save disk space justification is just not there. But... Found it: Edit|Mail Newsgroups Account Settings|account|Synchronization Storage|Disk Space: Don't download: x Messages larger than __ KB Doesn't work. I just set it in the IMAP account for 500KB and it still downloads the entire 2.5MB attachment when you click on the msg header. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ancient Message?
On 03/14/2012 07:22 AM, Larry S. wrote: SM 2.7.2 From time to time I would find, among other message headers on this group. a listing for one with no subject but a date of 12/31/69 at 7:00 p.m., marked read. Recently I began to get two of these, and now today I got three of them, including one marked unread. When I clicked the star to mark it read, a few of the other headers also were then marked read, although they weren't. No, I've never tried to open one. Any thoughts? Am I the only one getting these? Larry (puzzled) It's a server issue yes, I've gotten these on this newsgroup for as long as I can remember. If you click on one you will get: Error! newsgroup server responded:no such article in group Perhaps the article has expired (69911) Click here to remove all expired articles And even if you click to 'remove all expired articles' they will go away for awhile - or at least while you keep the newsgroup open. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: my bad, my bad
On 03/15/2012 10:28 AM, Walter wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
...
Password Exporter athttp://passwordexporter.fligtar.com?
Not available for SeaMonkey 2.7.2
So it says on that page. Thanks for the tip, though.
w
It actually does work on 2.7.2 and 2.8.0:
Password Exporter1.2.1true{B17C1C5A-04B1-11DB-9804-B622A1EF5492}
I've just used it on 2.8:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0
SeaMonkey/2.8
Go to:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/
right-click on the greyed out '+ Add to SeaMonkey' and select 'Save link
target' - save to your computer. Open the Addons manager (Tools|Add-ons
Manager|Extentions - at the top right just before the search box, click
on the wrench/screwdriver. Click on 'Install add-on from file', navigate
to where your downloaded .xpi is, click and install restart SeaMonkey.
You can use the add-on via: Tools|Add-ons Manager|Extentions|Password
Exporter|Preferences or Edit|Preferences|Privacy
Security|Passwords|Import/Export Passwords. You can import/export as csv
or xml format.
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Re: my bad, my bad
On 03/15/2012 11:48 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 3/15/12 10:28 AM, Walter wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/15/12 9:11 AM, Walter wrote: Equipment: HP desktop, Win 7, 6 gb memory, 750 gb hard drive, SM 2.7.2 Several months ago I found and used a program/plugin to print my password file with passwords in the clear. Since then I have added more passwords and changed some. OK, I will run that program again, says I. Not so easy, what was name of it and where did I get it? Never fear, Google knows. Thing is, Google knows too much so I don't know which program/plugin I used. One of the Google finds was LastPass, the so-touted answer to all my questions and needs. OK, load and run. Somewhere in the options there must be a way to do what I need but I can't find it. I try this-n-that and end up with a big mess with SM mail and newsgroups asking for a password every time I try to access either one. I check the settings for e-mail and newsgroups and do not find any obvious problems. Use workaround by entering passwords to get to mail and newsgroups. Even now, I get a request about every 10 minutes asking for a password for news server access. No matter what I enter, (or nothing,) it is accepted and things go on. Two e-mail accounts, xxx@localtvserver and xxx@gmail Two newsgroup accts, m.s.seamonkey and news.eternal-september.org I know the above is rather long and possibly very confusing but I need help and advice, thanking all in advance. Walter. Password Exporter athttp://passwordexporter.fligtar.com? Not available for SeaMonkey 2.7.2 So it says on that page. Thanks for the tip, though. w 1. Go to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/. 2. With your cursor over the gray Add to SeaMonkey button, right-click and select Save Link Target As, saving the XPI file password_exporter-1.2.1-fx+tb+sm.xpi where you can find it. 3. Using a ZIP application (e.g., WinZip) to open the XPI file (which is actually a zipped file), view file install.rdf in an ASCII editor (e.g., Wordpad). 4. Scroll to the bottom of install.rdf under !-- Mozilla SeaMonkey -- and change em:maxVersion2.1b1/em:maxVersion to be em:maxVersion2.10/em:maxVersion 5. Save install.rdf and reinsert it back into the XPI file. (With WinZip, this is simply a Save operation in your ASCII editor, not Save As.) 6. Using the Add-ons Manager in SeaMonkey, install password_exporter-1.2.1-fx+tb+sm.xpi from where you initially saved it. 3 - 5 aren't necessary. As a test, I just installed on both a SeaMonkey 2.8 and Firefox 11.0 using just 1 6. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?
On 03/15/2012 11:25 AM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-03-15 12:56 PM, _Jim Taylor_ spoke thusly: SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a white screen. Is this change by design And if so is there some setting I can change to get the old way back? Or at least change the border from black to white? Yes, it's by design. You can install an extension that will revert that change. It is called Old Default Image Style. 1. Go to Tools--Add-ons_Manager, to open the Add-ons Manager. 2. Select the Get Add-ons panel. 3. Search for Old Default Image Style. 4. It should be the first result. Just click on the [Install] button. Interesting thanks for pointing that out. I wonder why they didn't just use/promote the add-on mentioned at the start of the bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376997#c3 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/imagetweak/ http://cafxx.strayorange.com/ImageTweak and leave it at that. The author of that add-on (Carlo Alberto Ferraris ) seems to be the primary contributor to the change, as well as the bug originator. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?
On 03/15/2012 05:51 PM, Rufus wrote:
...
I noticed this change right away, but the odd thing for me was that it
seemed to work for some sites and still display the old way for
others...so I'm wondering, does the site content provider have some
control over this display mode?
Not sure. However if you 'view image' (any image from any site), sample:
http://cafxx.strayorange.com/ImageTweak.png
and 'view page info|links' you'll find:
a stylesheet link for:
resource://gre/res/TopLevelImageDocument.css
You can enter that in the URI bar it will display the css. The
background is set for nearly black:
@media not print {
body {
background-color: #222;
margin: 0;
I happen to like the new display mode, but I can understand those whom
don't and why they might not. The FF people are probably going to get
some feedback...
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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 03/16/2012 05:35 AM, Herrmann Hofer wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? Yes, that looks to be the one. Thanks. Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with media at FoxNews.com?
On 03/15/2012 09:22 PM, Jay O'Brien wrote: Hello, anyone else having this problem? I agree that the FoxNews pages are as the OP described. They were fine last week. No issues with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Note: also no issues with 2.7.2 (linux and Windows) What to do? Jay From: David H. Durgee m...@privacy.net Date: 3/13/2012 9:31 AM To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org I am running SeaMonkey 2.7.2 [Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2] here on Linux Mint 11 Katya - x64 edition. I am finding that slideshows and videos are not working on FoxNews.com here. The slideshows are blank and the videos are black. I have FlashBlock 1.3.18 installed, but I am NOT seeing the symbol indicating a flash media is available to play. I have also tried using FireFox with this after disabling FlashBlock and am still unable to deal with this. About the only similar thing I recall is that I needed to install Stylish to override something on soundcloud to allow media to be played there, as the FlashBlock button was being positioned out of sight. Is there something peculiar about what FoxNews is doing with these media that is causing problems for me? Am I the only one seeing this problem? Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with media at FoxNews.com?
On 03/16/2012 05:16 PM, David H. Durgee wrote: NoOp wrote: On 03/15/2012 09:22 PM, Jay O'Brien wrote: Hello, anyone else having this problem? I agree that the FoxNews pages are as the OP described. They were fine last week. No issues with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Note: also no issues with 2.7.2 (linux and Windows) What to do? Jay From: David H. Durgeem...@privacy.net Date: 3/13/2012 9:31 AM To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org I am running SeaMonkey 2.7.2 [Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2] here on Linux Mint 11 Katya - x64 edition. I am finding that slideshows and videos are not working on FoxNews.com here. The slideshows are blank and the videos are black. I have FlashBlock 1.3.18 installed, but I am NOT seeing the symbol indicating a flash media is available to play. I have also tried using FireFox with this after disabling FlashBlock and am still unable to deal with this. About the only similar thing I recall is that I needed to install Stylish to override something on soundcloud to allow media to be played there, as the FlashBlock button was being positioned out of sight. Is there something peculiar about what FoxNews is doing with these media that is causing problems for me? Am I the only one seeing this problem? Dave Your 2.8 is the i686 version, is your 2.7.2 also? As you can see from above, mine is the x86_64 version. Perhaps a problem that only shows itself in 64 bit releases? I switched to my 64bit machine backed down to: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 No issues w/fox.com (video, photos, etc). The 2.8 release has not yet been posted to the repository I use, so it may be a few days yet before I see if that fixes the problem. Dave If you are waiting for Joe, you may be waiting for quite some time. He got frustrated with the 'team' and he's changed his workstations over to Fedora. Recommend that you download directly from Mozilla and run in a home folder. Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with media at FoxNews.com?
On 03/16/2012 06:38 PM, NoOp wrote: On 03/16/2012 05:16 PM, David H. Durgee wrote: ... Your 2.8 is the i686 version, is your 2.7.2 also? As you can see from above, mine is the x86_64 version. Perhaps a problem that only shows itself in 64 bit releases? I switched to my 64bit machine backed down to: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 No issues w/fox.com (video, photos, etc). The 2.8 release has not yet been posted to the repository I use, so it may be a few days yet before I see if that fixes the problem. Dave If you are waiting for Joe, you may be waiting for quite some time. He got frustrated with the 'team' and he's changed his workstations over to Fedora. Recommend that you download directly from Mozilla and run in a home folder. Gary Now back on 2.8: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Still no issues w/foxnews.com. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Workaround Found] Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 03/17/2012 10:04 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote: ... b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 [Bug 727414 - Busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news (ui.use_activity_cursor = true) ] Setting 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false works for me. I've added comments to the bug report. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
On 03/18/2012 01:30 PM, Lisa Wiser wrote: Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.8 Where are the things like the address books, email files, bookmarks, etc., being kept now? Lisa http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/profiles Windows Vista, Windows 7 Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 03/20/2012 01:14 PM, Kent Briggs wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. I've got the same problem since upgrading to 2.8. I can make it go away by pressing Esc but I have to do that constantly. Kent, open 'about:config' and in the 'about:config' search bar enter: cursor that will bring up 'ui.use_activity_cursor' - double-click 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to set it to 'false'. The Preference will then show: ui.use_activity_cursor user setboolean false Close about:config and you shouldn't have the problem any further. See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 [Bug 727414 - Busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news (ui.use_activity_cursor = true) ] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Some web pages have no font anti-aliasing (Linux version)
On 03/20/2012 11:01 PM, Kertesz Laszlo wrote: Hello, I observed that fonts on some web pages seem to lack anti-aliasing. Example: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/ I use Debian and i tried both the version from the repos (2.7.3) and the official builds from the site, they all behave the same. Firefox/Iceweasel behaves the same though, so i suppose that the issue is down to the rendering engine. Other pages look fine with anti aliasing and all. Why is that? Other browsers (Chrome/Chromium, Opera) have no such issues (but Midori seems to behave just like Seamonkey though). They all look pretty much the same to me using: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/11.0 Chromium 17.0.963.79 (Developer Build 125985 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10 Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.61 Epiphany: Web Browser 2.30.2 Perhaps you could post a webshot somewhere that points out the font differences? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Use Wingdings in SM mail
On 03/21/2012 04:19 AM, Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:19:36 -0300, MCBastos wrote: Yes, Windows and Macs usually do have this font installed. So what? This is no longer a Windows-only world. For instance, AFAIK Android phones and tablets don't come with a Wingdings-compatible font. Same, I think, for Blackberries. But Androids and iOS do come with Emoji compatible fonts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Emoji_in_the_Unicode_standard Phil (insert emoji for laughing cat here) U+1F63A ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NASA live tv feed
On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote: Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's working in IE with VLC; http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/ Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL (http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644) directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NASA live tv feed
On 03/21/2012 06:14 PM, W3BNR wrote: On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following: On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote: Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's working in IE with VLC; http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/ Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL (http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644) directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine. Thanks for the confirmation. It would then appear to be a SM problem. As I mentioned, I think in my case it's a configuration issue (PEBKAC). For example: the wmv on this site: http://www.ifactorystream.eu/wmtest.html Played fine in Chromium. But in FF, SM, and Opera I only got a black window. I then reinstalled an mplayer package (again linux), reloaded FF and SM, and now the video plays just fine in FF, SM, and Opera. So, were I you I'd go looking for similar streams as you were viewing on the NASA site and see if perhaps the issue is a plugin (installed or lack thereof). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Use Wingdings in SM mail
On 03/20/2012 11:09 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/20/12 10:18 PM, Mike C wrote:
Is there a way to Use Wingdings in SM mail?
There was an extensive discussion about Wingdings in Web pages, not so
long ago. The conclusion is that, since this is contrary to the HTML
specifications, it is generally NOT allowed. Only those special
characters that are part of the Unicode standard can be represented in
HTML.
@Mike: The thread is Windings not showed on a html mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:44:02 -0500
Start of the thread is:
Message-ID: m5odnsdl0ptfdprtnz2dnuvz_jodn...@mozilla.org
It's a long thread, so take a seat... BTW: you can use Wingdings in
linux with appropriate font installed:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/screenshotwingdingschar.png/
:-) - U+263A ☺
From one of my posts in that thread:I reckon that Windows users are out
of luck given:
http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0#sclient=psyhl=encomplete=0site=webhpsource=hpq=mozilla+%2Bwingdings+fontbav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.fp=3e82efc6cc141df0biw=1280bih=741
And the ongoing bug reports ('resolved/wontfix et al):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424610
[Wingdings-font characters display incorrectly; fontEncoding.properties
hack is gone]
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429017
[symbol font quirk (for font face=symbol) not present on Windows even
when it is supposed to be]
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450723
[Emoticons from Outlook (using wingdings font) do not display properly
in Thunderbird]
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90643
[Does not render symbol font as commanded by CSS]
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31538
[Mozilla can't display the Webdings font even it is installed on the
client (wingdings font, symbol font)]
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla_Web_Developer_FAQ#Why_aren.e2.80.99t_symbol.2fdingbat_fonts_working.3f
etc. etc.
Maybe switch to linux? :-) Odd since it's usually the linux user that
misses 'features' in web browsers.
Since Wingdings are not supported by plain-text, ASCII-formatted E-mail,
you would need to use HTML-formatted E-mail. You would thus face the
same restrictions imposed by the HTML specifications that apply to Web
pages.
See:
http://www.unicode.org/
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/named-character-references.html
(best viewed with JavaScript disabled before loading and with [View
Text Zoom 150%])
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/characters.html
http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html
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Re: NASA live tv feed
On 03/21/2012 08:45 PM, PhillipJones wrote: NoOp wrote: On 03/21/2012 06:14 PM, W3BNR wrote: On 3/21/2012 9:06 PM NoOp submitted the following: On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, W3BNR wrote: Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but it's working in IE with VLC; http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/ Interesting. Works for me with Chromium (linux), but not SM, FF, or Opera (linux). However, I can pretty much verify that that is most likely a configuration issue as entering the video URL (http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644) directly into VLC fetches and plays the webcast just fine. Thanks for the confirmation. It would then appear to be a SM problem. As I mentioned, I think in my case it's a configuration issue (PEBKAC). For example: the wmv on this site: http://www.ifactorystream.eu/wmtest.html Played fine in Chromium. But in FF, SM, and Opera I only got a black window. I then reinstalled an mplayer package (again linux), reloaded FF and SM, and now the video plays just fine in FF, SM, and Opera. So, were I you I'd go looking for similar streams as you were viewing on the NASA site and see if perhaps the issue is a plugin (installed or lack thereof). This link iFactorystream works perfect. There is an issue with the server serving the material. Well, as I mentioned, in my case it was a configuration issue. I have the feeds working fine now that I have the proper plugin installed in my linux browsers. http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644 is currently streaming at this time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NASA live tv feed
On 03/22/2012 06:59 PM, NoOp wrote: On 03/21/2012 08:45 PM, PhillipJones wrote: NoOp wrote: ... This link iFactorystream works perfect. There is an issue with the server serving the material. Well, as I mentioned, in my case it was a configuration issue. I have the feeds working fine now that I have the proper plugin installed in my linux browsers. http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644 is currently streaming at this time. And just verified that it is a configuration issue on SeaMonkey Windows as well. asf files were set to play with VLC, as soon as I switched to Windows Media Player, the feed works on Windows as well. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bug 662526 - Pasting to new tab button opens two tabs. (Linux only)
On 03/23/2012 07:10 AM, Philip Chee wrote: Anyone on *Linux* can confirm that this bug also happens to them? If you are still on SeaMonkey 2.0, do you get one new tab loaded with the url from the clipboard? Phil Confirmed with SM 2.8. See my comments added to the bug report. If I can find an archived linux version of 2.0, it's easy enough for me to load that up and test (all of my SeaMonkey are installed in my /home directory - so I just extract go). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NASA live tv feed
On 03/23/2012 10:02 AM, upscope wrote: On Thursday, March 22, 2012 06:59:22 PM NoOp wrote: ... Well, as I mentioned, in my case it was a configuration issue. I have the feeds working fine now that I have the proper plugin installed in my linux browsers. http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644 is currently streaming at this time. I saw the message plugin missing but it does not say which one. Do you have link to plugin. (Linux) (Seamonkey)? The plugin that worked for me is 'gnome-mediaplayer' from the Ubuntu universe repository: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/video/gnome-media-player ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
On 03/23/2012 03:01 PM, PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. Not so. I just subscribed to that newsgroup before reading the headers, I created a filter on your email address. I then clicked on the newsgroup, loaded 500 headers marked the others as read. A sample from my filter log: Applied filter Phillip to message from PhillipJones pjon...@kimbanet.com - Replying to your own message in Mail at 03/22/2012 07:09:09 AM tagged Applied filter Phillip to message from PhillipJones pjon...@kimbanet.com - Why do most people dislike filthy faggots? at 03/22/2012 07:16:35 AM tagged Applied filter Phillip to message from Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com - (offensive title removed) at 03/22/2012 08:39:47 AM tagged Applied filter Phillip to message from Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com - Replying to your own message in Mail at 03/22/2012 10:21:37 AM tagged Keep in mind that NG filters are applied and in effect _after_ you've created the filter. There is no ability (that I'm aware) the 'Run Now' in NG's as there is in emails. Hint re your list spammer... an easy nuke to that one is to filter on: X-Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com (you can also send your complaints there as well) I've have this filter in place for a very long time (I delete them so I never see them) I set it for the entire news servers rather than just the newsgroup. And some individual filters (again google/googlegroups) Example from mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey: Applied filter Injection-Info: googlegroups.com to message from thurman jude thurmanjuded(snipped) - Youngest Chicks Xxx || Younger Pron Movies || Young snipped Videos at 02/20/2012 04:19:35 PM deleted Applied filter Injection-Info: googlegroups.com to message from thurman jude thurmanjuded(snipped) - Nubile Underage Porn || Virgin Porn Movies || Extreme Hentai Porn at 02/20/2012 04:20:01 PM deleted Yes, I may miss some valid posts, but I prefer the quiet rather than the spam. When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the group. To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it. Have you tried deleting them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I choose to delete them in the filter. bj This is what I get : http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
On 03/23/2012 04:05 PM, NoOp wrote: On 03/23/2012 03:01 PM, PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. Not so. I just subscribed to that newsgroup before reading the headers, I created a filter on your email address. I then clicked on the newsgroup, loaded 500 headers marked the others as read. A sample from my filter log: Applied filter Phillip to message from PhillipJones pjon...@kimbanet.com - Replying to your own message in Mail at 03/22/2012 07:09:09 AM tagged Applied filter Phillip to message from PhillipJones pjon...@kimbanet.com - Why do most people dislike filthy faggots? at 03/22/2012 07:16:35 AM tagged Applied filter Phillip to message from Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com - (offensive title removed) at 03/22/2012 08:39:47 AM tagged Applied filter Phillip to message from Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com - Replying to your own message in Mail at 03/22/2012 10:21:37 AM tagged Keep in mind that NG filters are applied and in effect _after_ you've created the filter. There is no ability (that I'm aware) the 'Run Now' in NG's as there is in emails. Hint re your list spammer... an easy nuke to that one is to filter on: X-Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com (you can also send your complaints there as well) Sorry forgot another hint - the offensive one also cross posts to multiple groups: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.music.beatles,alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees,alt.politics.homosexuality It's quite easy to set up a crosspost filter: Filtername: Crosspost Match all of the following Newsgroups contains , Yep, just filter on the comma. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where is Download Manager?
On 03/25/2012 06:48 PM, Mort wrote: Hi, I'm running Windows XP SP 3, and last year's SM which maintains my bookmarks. When I download something to my hard drive, a Download Manager appears, listing all previously downloaded programs, plus progress on the current download. After I double click on the finished download to install it, the Manager disappears. Sometimes, I wish to view the Manager on-screen, but I cannot find it, even with a search of my hard drive. Can someone please tell me where it is hiding,and how I can make it appear on-screen. Tools|Download Manager or Ctl+J I highly recommend: Help|Help Contents or F1 search: download manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where is Download Manager?
On 03/26/2012 11:13 AM, Mort wrote: Gerd Schweizer wrote: Mort schrieb: Can someone please tell me where it is hiding,and how I can make it appear on-screen. In the german version i click on Extras on the top and can select Download Manager. Dear Gerd, Thanks to your suggestion, I searched on top and found tools, in which one of the choices is Download Manager. Dear Mort, You are most welcome... NoOp (who wrote: Tools|Download Manager or Ctl+J Thank you very much for your helpful advice. Danke schön, Mort ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
On 03/26/2012 11:14 AM, chicagofan wrote: ... How do you stop cross-postings in newsgroups now? Commas won't do it for me. I'm using SM 2.8. bj Comma won't? Applied filter Crossposts to message from The Starmaker starmaker@[snipped] - Whatever happened to Art Bell? at 03/25/2012 07:15:57 PM marked as read Applied filter Crossposts to message from The Starmaker starmaker@[snipped] - Whatever happened to Art Bell? at 03/25/2012 07:15:57 PM flagged Applied filter Crossposts to message from The Starmaker starmaker@[snipped] - Whatever happened to Art Bell? at 03/25/2012 07:15:57 PM tagged The above message was flagged, tagged and marked as read. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where is Download Manager?
On 03/26/2012 11:17 AM, Mort wrote: NoOp wrote: On 03/25/2012 06:48 PM, Mort wrote: Hi, I'm running Windows XP SP 3, and last year's SM which maintains my bookmarks. When I download something to my hard drive, a Download Manager appears, listing all previously downloaded programs, plus progress on the current download. After I double click on the finished download to install it, the Manager disappears. Sometimes, I wish to view the Manager on-screen, but I cannot find it, even with a search of my hard drive. Can someone please tell me where it is hiding,and how I can make it appear on-screen. Tools|Download Manager or Ctl+J I highly recommend: Help|Help Contents or F1 search: download manager Hi, Thanks for your help. I did in fact search Download Manager, and came up with nothing on my hard drive that was helpful. That's why I wondered where it was hiding. Thanks to you and Gerd, I looked under tools' and found it. You might consider upgrading from: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 to the current 2.8 version of SeaMonkey... The 2.8 help file shows: Download Manager You can use Download Manager to keep track of files you download. Download Manager shows the following information: filename time remaining before download is complete transfer speed percent complete time elapsed web location (source) To open Download Manager, do the following: Open the Tools menu and choose Download Manager. The following menu options are available in Download Manager: Properties: Select a file being downloaded and click Properties to show the progress dialog box. Cancel: Select a file being downloaded and click Cancel to stop the download. Remove from List: Select a file and click Remove from List to remove a canceled or finished download. This will not delete the file from your hard disk. Launch File: Click this to open a selected file. Show in Browser: Click this to show the location of a selected file. I no longer have a 2.0 version installed, so I can't tell you what the download manager section shows there. I will note the tools and Ctrl J paths for future use. Thanks again. Mort No problem glad you got is sorted out. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Importing bookmarks from Firefox
On 03/28/2012 10:17 AM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-03-28 1:08 PM, silverfox38 wrote: Installed SM 2.9 and it did not import bookmarks from Firefox 11 nor did I find options to do it. When I had SM before (quite some time ago!), I had no such problems, is there a different way to do this type of importing now? I did find Importing HTML but it wants to import from a file? Does not show option to import from Firefox? This article should help http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb. I wouldn't recommend that method... That might be OK for a *new* clean install, however your instructions fail to mention this: This will replace all of your current bookmarks with the backup. Are you sure? I think it's safer to Export the bookmarks in Firefox to html, and then Import the html file into SeaMonkey. That way you won't lose your existing bookmarks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help is back…with screencasts!
On 04/02/2012 02:45 AM, Desiree wrote: Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote in message news:fo2dnunmh4lpvuvsnz2dnuvz_qedn...@mozilla.org... I've finished updating http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/! Aside from content now being up to date, the big change is that it is mostly screencasts. I've written a blog post about it at http://ilias.ca/blog/2012/03/seamonkey-help-is-back-with-screencasts/. ... I just get a blank page when going to your site both in Fx 10 Enterprise and SM 2.6.1 on two different computers both running XP Pro. Mozilla in its wisdom saw fit to blacklist my video driver which does HTML5 just fine on Opera and had passed all Mozilla tests for HTML5 until Mozilla decided to blacklist it and then, of course, the HTML5 tests no longer worked. I have zero interest in updating my video driver. I like the version I use and have specific reasons for why I use this version of nVidia nForce driver. I Perhaps if you upgraded to 2.8 you might not have the problem. The blacklisted drivers are for WebGL, not HTML5. Here are mine: Graphics Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Corporation -- Quadro4 900 XGL/AGP/SSE2Driver Version1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.19 WebGL RendererBlocked for your graphics driver version. Try updating your graphics driver to version NVIDIA 257.21 or newer. GPU Accelerated Windows0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. Try updating your graphics driver to version NVIDIA 257.21 or newer. And from a WinXP with the same nVidia card: Graphics Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGLVendor ID0x10de Device ID0x0258Adapter RAMUnknownAdapter Driversnv4_dispDriver Version9.1.3.6Driver Date7-12-2006 WebGL Rendererfalse GPU Accelerated Windows0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. And I can render the HTML5 just fine. I also have WinXP running in a VMWare virtual machine. That VM uses an SVG II 2D video driver, and I can view the HTML5 on that as well: WebGL RendererBlocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues. GPU Accelerated Windows0. Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues. So I'd recommend upgrading to 2.8. 2.8 resolved/fixed several HTML5 issues: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.8/#new as did SeaMonkey 2.7: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.7/changes would never have blamed Mozilla if my video driver caused Fx or SM to crash so I don't think Mozilla should arbitrarily placed video drivers older than the date they chose on a black list as some very old drivers work fine with HTML5 yet Mozilla put them on the black list. (I didn't blame Mozilla when Fx4 was crashing constantly a year ago and it turned out to be nVidia's nView that I love greatly but I had to disable it forever if I wanted to use Fx4 and above. I lost 50% of the functionality of my video card just to be able to use Fx4 but I didn't blame Mozilla so I certainly would not have blamed Mozilla if my video driver had problems with HTML5 on Fx or SM. Thus, I don't think Mozilla should have placed any video card driver versions on a black list. Interesting... On the WinXP I have nView 110.44 installed and working. It's never cause an issue with Firefox or SeaMonkey for me. You might try reinstalling to see if it is still giving you issues with the current version of Firefox (11) or SeaMonkey (2.8). ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help is back…with screencasts!
On 04/02/2012 12:39 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: Whatever reasons you have for not updating your graphics driver, it something you should do. You can find instuctions at http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-upgrade-my-graphics-drivers Keep in mind that in many cases, the user is running the latest graphics driver for their card. Example: Graphics Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Corporation -- Quadro4 900 XGL/AGP/SSE2Driver Version1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.19 WebGL RendererBlocked for your graphics driver version. Try updating your graphics driver to version NVIDIA 257.21 or newer. GPU Accelerated Windows0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. Try updating your graphics driver to version NVIDIA 257.21 or newer. Note: I also have .20 installed on the same machine. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.20-driver.html 96.43.19 *is* the current version for that card (linux). The boilerplate NVIDIA 257.21 or newer is nonsense as that driver doesn't work with the Quadro4 900 XGL. The version that I have installed on WinXP (Version: 91.36) *is* the current WinXP driver. http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_91.36.html Fact of the matter is that my Quadro4 will never support WebGL. Reason being is that, even if the hardware supported it, nVidia will never update the driver to do so. The card simply is too old and they would rather sell new cards (understandably). The card works just fine for me; Supports OpenGL GLX, I can rotate my desktops in 3D, use 3D graphics for CAD and other programs, etc. So I see no reason to go spend additional $$ to buy one simply to run WebGL. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help is back…with screencasts!
On 03/30/2012 02:21 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: I've finished updating http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/! Aside from content now being up to date, the big change is that it is mostly screencasts. I've written a blog post about it at http://ilias.ca/blog/2012/03/seamonkey-help-is-back-with-screencasts/. Nicely done thanks! Gary Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Getting password list for backup
On 04/01/2012 10:00 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I am doing some work for an agency which has a requirement that they will have a recent copy of all passwords stored on any computer accessing their site. Previously I was able to use an HTML file which did the job, it doesn't work with recent SM versions. Easy. If you wish to copy the SeaMonkey PW's have a look at: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571997#c23 Otherwise review the thread regarding this issue from just a few days ago (Subject: my bad, my bad) This isn't a discussion of whether that's a good idea, it's a policy requirement, and not worth quitting over, since I got a letter from the legal department saying I had told them it was a bad idea, and I'm not on the hook if there's a compromise. That's the scariest policy that I've ever heard. Don't know what the agency is (a phishing agency? - certainly can't be a government agency), but I'd strongly suggest hiring a lawyer yourself contesting the issue. If you have a Facebook account, an ISP account (you are Verizon), etc., you are most likely in violation of their TOS by releasing your passwords to a third party, and may be dropped completely[1]. If you actually plan to give these people *all* of your passwords, then I hope you are prepared to turn over up your /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, all ssh keys, pam keys, vnc password, root password, secure logs (and of course the system passwords so they can access those as well, TrueCrypt passwords, ecryptfs passwords, etc., etc. You might just as well drop your drawers and let them have at it. Were I you, I'd ask them to provide me with a machine that will be used *solely* for accessing their site/data/whatever tell them to either take a flying leap regarding the other, or face a lawsuit. I'm pretty sure that the EFF might be interested in your 'situation'. It will be done, the question is if there is a way to do it easily and get it on dead trees. Oh, and a way to conveniently move a limited number from one machine to another would be a time saver, as well. If there is such a thing. So you'll be giving them the passwords on the other machine as well? Either way... good luck. [1] Simple example for you: http://www.verizon.net/policies/vzcom/tos_popup.asp [MANAGEMENT OF YOUR DATA AND COMPUTER. - Your Responsibilities Regarding Security.] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Your browser is blocking Flash error message
On 04/02/2012 03:26 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-04-01 12:24 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.8 on an x64 Win7 ultimate OS Starting several days ago when I log in to Att/Yahoo webmail I get the following error message box: --- Flash required for this application X Your browser is blocking Flash. You must have Flash 9.0 or higher installed and unblocked to run an openmail application. You can download and install the latest Flash Player _here_ OK -- The issue seems to be specific to Yahoo mail. They have been contacted about it. In the meantime, you can switch to classic mode in Yahoo. @ Chris: And what leads you to that conclusion? Yahoo ATT associated Yahoo mail works without Flash. There is *no* requirement for Adobe Flash on either mail website. I am glad that someone has been able to find a path to contact them because I have been unable to find an e-mail address to which one can send technical questions at Yahoo and ATT. I'd be most glad if someone could e-mail me such an address and, or, post such an address here. I doubt if it is an issue with ATT/Yahoo. I can login use the web interface just fine (new interface). As an FYI, I *never* have Flash turned on when I do login use the website interface. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with AM-Deadlinks
On 04/03/2012 09:48 AM, Smiles wrote: good day I have used this program for years to find dead links it works but does not remove selected bookmarks from browser now I am using Win7 and SeaMonkey 2.0.3 AM Deadlink 4.4 any comments thanks https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/checkplaces/ http://www.andyhalford.com/checkplaces/index.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 wants to install older Java runtime
On 04/04/2012 11:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: flyguy wrote: SM did not show Java installed, even though add/remove programs did. The URL is http://rldtowercam.viewnetcam.com:5/CgiStart?page=SingleLanguage=0 It's not offering to install a plugin now that I've reinstalled ver 31, and my add-on manager now shows the plugins you have, and add/remove still shows ver 31 installed (the Java installer did say java was already installed, but would remove and reinstall if I clicked continue, which I did). The real puzzle is the SM offer to install an older version, and then having that attempt fail. Perhaps the situation could be duplicated by disabling or removing Java from a test computer. I got no prompt when I visited the site, and the controls seemed to work fine. However, when I closed the page, the cursor turned to the perpetual spinner, the whole SeaMonkey window was grayed out, all control was lost, and I couldn't close SM without going through the Windows Task Manager. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U31 File: npjp2.dll Version: 6.0.310.5 Java Deployment Toolkit 6.0.310.5 File: npdeployJava1.dll Version: 6.0.310.5 Windows 7 Pro SP 1, fully patched +1 Same symptoms: cursor turned to the perpetual spinner, the whole SeaMonkey window was grayed out, all control was lost, and I couldn't close SM without going through the had to kill SM and restart. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_31 File: /opt/java/32/jre1.6.0_31/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Same with Firefox 11. Easy to reproduce; open the page, rotate the camera etc., close the page, restore the page/tab. At the bottom of hte page you get Transferring data from ridtowercam.viewnetcam.com Works with Chromium (Java on) and Opera: 18.0.1025.142 (Developer Build 129054 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10 However if you close Chromium go back to the page on Chromium, all I get is a black screen on the tower shot. Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.62 There is no PrefBar for those, so it's hard to determine if/when java is running. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip
On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03: In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip. But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ? I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save attachment. Ray, This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed to send .zip attachments. They may carry bugs. Michael G Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion? Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey? Post a screenshot with a sent + zip show us what you see. @Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions 2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with Seamonkey 2.8
On 04/03/2012 03:03 PM, vse...@iglou.com wrote: Unless I'm getting a bogus error message, Seamonkey 2.8 won't work on my Slackware 12 system. I'm getting a message that gcc 4.2.0 is required, but I have gcc 4.1.2 installed. Is it correct that Seamonkey 2.8 for Linux requires gcc 4.2? If so, what is the most recent version of Seamonkey that will work with gcc 4.1.2 (and where is it on the seamonkey site)? ... It is not mentioned here: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements File a bug? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip
On 04/05/2012 12:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20: ... @Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions 2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere. I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-) I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself: When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right handside with the zip file name. After sent Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window... ...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the attachment where i can save it. OK, I still cannot reproduce Ray. However, I do see that the paperclip is so small as to appear inexistent when the 'Attachments' column is not selected. I've not noticed in the past as I turn on the 'Attachments' column; that gives me a large paperclip. Doing that also removes the paperclip from the 'envelope', but that's OK with me. So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file to myself. I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you wish. You can then let me know if you receive it. (I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file) Then perhaps your ISP is stripping the zip? Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 Windows 7 professionnal with SP1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Java/Apple/Mozilla] was: (Re: Thanks, SM Team.)
On 04/05/2012 09:38 AM, David B. wrote: Rufus wrote: ... I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV. Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them? I was reading here earlier today: http://community.f-secure.com/t5/Protection/Question-about-OS-X-Flashback-K-trojan/m-p/10815#M2205 ... Gotta love it... Apple is just now getting around to updating java to release 31: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT5228 quote Description: Multiple vulnerabilities exist in Java 1.6.0_29, the most serious of which may allow an untrusted Java applet to execute arbitrary code outside the Java sandbox. Visiting a web page containing a maliciously crafted untrusted Java applet may lead to arbitrary code execution with the privileges of the current user. These issues are addressed by updating to Java version 1.6.0_31. Further information is available via the Java website at http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/releasenotes-136954.html /quote Pretty far behind the curve given that: 1) .31 was released in February, and 2) Mozilla tagged took action regarding the java issue(s) some time ago. This might be of interest/help: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unblocking-java-plugin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip
On 04/06/2012 12:31 PM, Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote, On 06/04/2012 05:11: ... I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you wish. You can then let me know if you receive it. It's ok, but you have not used SM to send your mail. I did. I sent it to you directly. And here was my reply (off list): Sure I did: Message-ID: 4f7e5f5f.8000...@sbcglobal.net Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:13:35 -0700 From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray_Net Raymond-snipped Subject: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=050205030303020805080402 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --050205030303020805080402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also received the zip file attached to your repply: Content-Type: application/zip; name=test.zip Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=test.zip ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: send mail causes abort
On 04/07/2012 03:20 AM, A Williams wrote: This problem is probably specific to Opensuse 11.2 Evergreen. The current level is seamonkey-2.6.1-1.1.i586, but I have had this problem for a while - older levels were definitely affected. I have 3 systems running 11.2 Evergreen. Two are 32-bit systems and the third is running the 64-bit version. All three have the same problem. When I want to send a mail I have prepared, Seamonkey dies immediately. The Browser window(s), Mail window, all gone. Restarting reopens my browser sessions but the version of the mail in Drafts is a few minutes old. The only error messages I see are the two lines below: seamonkey-bin: misc.c:39: px_malloc0: Assertion `mem != ((void *)0)' failed. /usr/bin/seamonkey: line 127: 4213 Aborted $MOZ_PROGRAM $@ Looks to be similar to this from Oct 2011: http://www.mail-archive.com/support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org/msg30024.html [2.4.1 problems, part I: Mail crashes it all!] http://www.mail-archive.com/support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org/msg30054.html quote Current SM package: 2.0.14-0.2.1 x86_64 (repo 11.2 Update). Tried: 2.4-1.1 x86_64 (repo 11.2 Evergreen). /quote My suspicion is th at Seamonkey is depending on some feature of glibc (or similar) which my older version does not provide. glibc-2.10.1-10.11.1.i586 Obviously the level information is for one of the 32-bit systems. All three systems are kept up to date. I'm just guessing as to the cause, could someone who understands this stuff say more? Have you checked your distro bug reports for the same/similar issue? I'm not familiar with openSUSE (I use Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora), but it looks as if your distro 11.2 has moved along to 2.8: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen_11.2 List of updates for 11.2 from Evergreen These are the updates for openSUSE 11.2 made by the Evergreen project. The list is sorted with latest updates first. [seamonkey released Bug #750044 see changelog ver. 2.8] - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750044 That would also indicate to me that they provide all of the necessary packages/libs to run SeaMonkey 2.8. Perhaps you can/should upgrade? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
On 04/07/2012 07:21 PM, PhillipJones wrote: ... I never was able to get any sort of filter to work even Chris I suggestion. But fortunately Google had a problem come up where it lost its connection USENET for about a week. The people spreading the junk got tired when they discovered only they were reading. I was hoping it would stay broke for 30 years. but no such luck. I just have try creating filters when it starts up next time. I gave you the filters to use to get rid of that junk. You basically only need the two I mentioned. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: send mail causes abort
On 04/08/2012 03:03 AM, A Williams wrote: NoOp wrote: ... http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen_11.2 List of updates for 11.2 from Evergreen These are the updates for openSUSE 11.2 made by the Evergreen project. The list is sorted with latest updates first. [seamonkey released Bug #750044 see changelog ver. 2.8] - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750044 That would also indicate to me that they provide all of the necessary packages/libs to run SeaMonkey 2.8. Perhaps you can/should upgrade? I have been keeping up to date using the 11.2 Evergreen Repo. I just checked on one of the Evergreen machines and the newest level available there is the one I have installed. Yes, I now see that the Opensuse Evergreen link says 2.8 is available but neither of the standard update tools (zypper and YaST) agree. Nor does http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Evergreen:/11.2/standard/ia64/ - no Seamonkey at all, the i586 branch just shows the old level. I suspect for 64bit you'd use this one: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Evergreen:/11.2/standard/x86_64/ Unless of course you are running an Itanium processor... For that you'd have ask if anyone has built an ia64 version. This 11.2 repo shows seamonkey-2.7.2-2.2.i586.rpm: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/i586/ And the same for 64bit: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/ [seamonkey-2.7.2-2.2.x86_64.rpm] The 2.8 Evergreen versions are here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Evergreen:/11.2:/Test/standard/i586/ [seamonkey-2.8-2.1.i586.rpm] http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Evergreen:/11.2:/Test/standard/x86_64/ [seamonkey-2.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm] As I mentioned, I only use Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora, so I'm not familiar with openSUSE and/or Evergreen. Sorry I can't be of more help. Although the abort I get is the same as in your October 2011 link, the circumstances are different. The one you pointed me at was an abort as soon as Mail was clicked / loaded. In my case I can read mails/news with no problems at all, I discovered yesterday that I can write to this Newsgroup (the only one I ever write to). My abort comes when I click to send a mail. Looks like I need to submit a bug report against 11.2 Evergreen, at least for the missing products. Thank you for filling in some gaps - I was looking in the wrong place. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
On 04/08/2012 01:02 PM, PhillipJones wrote: NoOp wrote: On 04/07/2012 07:21 PM, PhillipJones wrote: ... I never was able to get any sort of filter to work even Chris I suggestion. But fortunately Google had a problem come up where it lost its connection USENET for about a week. The people spreading the junk got tired when they discovered only they were reading. I was hoping it would stay broke for 30 years. but no such luck. I just have try creating filters when it starts up next time. I gave you the filters to use to get rid of that junk. You basically only need the two I mentioned. I tried them and they didn't help. I still have them set. I didn't ignore your suggestions I have them set. Its even possible they were spoofing googlegroups figuring everyone would latch on to them. I am always willing to try anything, if it will help. I just reset two filters for comp.sys.mac.apps: 1. Google groups: Match all of the following X-Complaints-To contains groups-ab...@google.com Action: whatever suits you - I selected Tag Message To Do Mark As Read (simply so that I could easily still see the offending posts) 2. Crosspost: Match all of the following Newsgroups contains , Action: Mark as Flagged Tag Message Later Note: you can of course filter on a specific cross posted newsgroup(s) such as 'alt.support.boy...'. or 'alt.politics...' etc instead of just comma (,). Using just a comma wacks them all and you'll find guys like Ant like to comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system - just tell him to stop cross posting (it's pretty rude to do it for every post anyway), or filter him in by setting a filter for comp.sys.mac.system with an action of 'Stop Filter Execution' I turned the Filter logging on, and I then subscribed to comp.sys.mac.apps, downloaded 1500 headers marked the others as read. Click on Help when you are in the filter composition window then read the section on 'Tip: Message filters are applied one after another.' so that you understand how to set the priorities. Here are some samples from the filter (I've taken the liberty of snipping some of the possibly offensive words, and also a portion of the email address): Applied filter googlegroups to message from NEMO brianlambsbig...@excite.com - When George walked out at 03/26/2012 03:18:44 PM tagged Applied filter googlegroups to message from NEMO brianlambsbigtoe@snipped - When George walked out at 03/26/2012 03:18:44 PM marked as read Applied filter Crosspost to message from NEMO brianlambsbigtoe@snipped - When George walked out at 03/26/2012 03:18:44 PM flagged Applied filter Crosspost to message from NEMO brianlambsbigtoe@snipped - When George walked out at 03/26/2012 03:18:44 PM tagged Applied filter Crosspost to message from OMAR BLACK omar@snipped - Why All Good People Should Hate snipped at 03/26/2012 09:34:20 PM flagged Applied filter Crosspost to message from OMAR BLACK omar@snipped - Why All Good People Should Hate snipped at 03/26/2012 09:34:20 PM tagged Of course there are lots more, and I could have used 'Delete Message' etc. Actually, 'Ignore the thread' and/or 'Ignore the subthread' are IMO better choices. That way you won't see the thread/subthread at all, but can turn ignored thread/subthreads back on to see a post that you may have missed but want to now see/review. My suggestion is that you turn off all filters that you currently have for that newsgroup, set the two I've shown you plus the filter log, then unsubscribe and resubscribe. Try just the flagged/tagged first so that you can see what is being flagged/tagged. Then once you're happy, reset for 'Ignore the thread' and/or 'Ignore the subthread'. Unsubscribe resubscribe again. Note: the reason for unsubscribing and resubscribing is so that filters can work on older posts that you don't want to see. Otherwise, they will only work on newly posted messages. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preventing new version checking
On 04/11/2012 05:43 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Is there a switch I can set in config to prevent checking for new versions of SM? I don't want the pop-up, easiest way to prevent that is not to check. Test environment, 1st rule, when chasing problems change only one thing at a time. In reply to a message I got via email and haven't seen here, yes, I did. app.update.auto;false app.update.enabled;false Or you could try the standard way: Edit|Preferences|Advance|Software Installation uncheck 'Automatically check for updates ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preventing new version checking
On 04/12/2012 06:53 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: NoOp wrote: On 04/11/2012 05:43 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Is there a switch I can set in config to prevent checking for new versions of SM? I don't want the pop-up, easiest way to prevent that is not to check. Test environment, 1st rule, when chasing problems change only one thing at a time. In reply to a message I got via email and haven't seen here, yes, I did. app.update.auto;false app.update.enabled;false Or you could try the standard way: Edit|Preferences|Advance|Software Installation uncheck 'Automatically check for updates Isn't doing that what set the preferences? Or does that do something else as well? It is what set's those. In any case I'll check that, thanks. Easiest way to check is to open about.config, search on app.update and notice the state of those two settings. Now open Edit|Preferences|Advance|Software Installation and with that on the about:config page, you'll be able to see those settings change in about:config when to tick/untick them. app.update.auto = 'Automatically download and install the update' app.update.enabled = 'Automatically check for updates' Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Problems
On 04/14/2012 04:21 AM, Frog wrote: ... Daniel, ... Come on guys; 383 lines with: Frog wrote: Daniel wrote: Frog wrote: Frog wrote: Daniel wrote: Frog wrote: Daniel wrote: Frog wrote: Daniel wrote: Frog wrote: Daniel wrote: Frog wrote: Daniel wrote: Frog wrote: is getting to be a bit much. Please: https://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html [Trim your follow-ups.] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
On 04/16/2012 06:44 AM, Daniel wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 I've just expanded one of my UseNet servers and found that about 35 of the 40-odd groups have one message posted to them (even some groups that I haven't seen a real message posted to in over twelve months). In that case, the filter to the news server instead of the individual newsgroup. Click the 'Filters for: and select the news server. Then set the filter. The filter will then apply to all newsgroups on that news server. I suspected it was spam that had been cross-posted, so made a server-wide filter looking for the e-mail subject and set it to mark it as read. I then ran the filter by clicking the Run Now button at the bottom of the Message Filters screen, after selecting the server I had wanted that filter to apply for...No change. I then closed the Message Filters screen, re-selected it under Tools, re-selected the server, Run Nowno change. With the UseNet server selected, the other two options, Run Filers on Folder and Run Filters on Message are greyed out, so what am I doing wrong?? Do server-wide filters work at all?? Yes. However the Run Now button only works on email messages, not with nntp. When you set a 'new' filter for nntp it works with 'new' messages only. In order refilter all of the previous nntp messages you'll need to unsubscribe from the newsgroup then resubscribe. When the headers are reloaded, the filters will apply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I enable javascript ?
On 04/16/2012 05:48 PM, Jim Taylor wrote: DoctorBill wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: What do I do ? Have you given any thought yet to fix your munged email address that is abusing hotmail? Have you given any thought yet to fix your munged email address that is abusing hotmail? No. I am not as concerned as you are. Well you should be (unless you are in fact abuse@hotmail). Abusing a service email (even Microsoft's) is not looked on kindly by the community. And if I came to the community for help as often as you do I would not want to alienate people. But that's just my opinion. Jim He's refused to do that for quite some time. Hence my filters for him: Applied filter ab...@hotmail.com to message from DoctorBill ab...@hotmail.com - How do I enable javascript ? at 04/16/2012 01:43:32 PM deleted ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: send mail causes abort - Fixed
On 04/18/2012 09:48 AM, A Williams wrote: ... In the last 10 days I have had one machine where the root partition was damaged, files missing in /bin, /etc and somewhere else as well. Only that partition was affected. /usr, /home, /var, /boot were all ok. Still an absolute pain to recover from. The cause is still unknown but it feels as though I was cracked. Then the power supply went on my other main machine. Cause unknown but totally unrelated to the first problem of course. Finally I have the time to go back to this problem. That last link did the job - the main Evergreen repository still has the old Seamonkey but the Test one has the new Seamonkey and it works. Of course it had updates to another 60-odd packages but none of them has toasted this machine :-) Thank you, you may not know SuSE but you still provided all the help I could possibly have asked for. Now I'll post another problem . . . You are most welcome. I'll have to load up openSuSE in a virtual machine just to see how it goes. Glad you got it sorted out. Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.9
On 04/26/2012 01:22 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Jens, does anyone know how widespread this busy hourglass problem is?? Just us few, or heaps of us?? Probably anyone using SM as a newsgroup reader. Yes, fwiw even I get it frequently. I try to ignore it since I don't even know the slightest on how to fix it :/ (MailNews side frontend code is as foreign to me as building a functional warp drive from scratch) Doesn't ui.use_activity_cursor;false work for you? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Composer doesn't support HTML5?
On 04/29/2012 05:44 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 29/04/2012 21:10, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the world: If he was the NVu guy, why did he change the name? (although I rather prefer Bluegriffon to nVu). I don't know the exact reasoning, but there are a few likely possibilities: 1. BlueGriffon is an entirely different program. NVu was built on the old Mozilla Composer codebase, and depended on a (patched) old version of Gecko. BlueGriffon was built from the ground up, to use the most-current version of Gecko without patches. It's possible that Glazman wanted to dissociate the new product from NVu due to those differences. 2. Glazman had an sponsor for NVu -- the old Linspire Linux distro. It's possible that Linspire and their successors, not Glazman, hold the rights to the NVu trademark. 3. BlueGriffon, having no sponsor, uses a different business model -- the so-called freemium system: basic package is free, add-ons are for-pay. Since NVu was totally free, another possible reason for changing the brand was not to carry the expectations of it being totally free. Not to mention that BlueGriffon and BlueFish support HTML5 kompozer Nvu do not... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No multiple downloads with SM 2.9.1
On 05/01/2012 04:30 PM, Patrick Crumhorn wrote: Since patching to SM 2.9.1 this morning, multiple downloads are broken. I used to be able (as of last night even) to go to a site and start a download of an audio file from an html link, then do another one or two at the same time, but now when I start a new download, it will not start unless I pause the download already in progress. And the paused d/l will not restart until I pause or complete or kill the other one. This is a real problem - any suggested workarounds? (Using XP Professional, btw). Works for me. To test I went to: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ and started a download for the 2.9.1 Windows version. Then I started a download for the 64bit linux version: both downloaded at the same time. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: vertical scroll bar
On 05/03/2012 06:43 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On 03/05/2012 23:17, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/3/12 5:44 AM, Ken wrote: Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather than a single line. Is there a setting I can make that will allow the page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the mouse? I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar. Thanks. Aha! It's not me! It's SeaMonkey. I thought something was strange when I scrolled. The same thing is happening with the scroll bar slider. I can no longer scroll just one line. toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance Change that from 3 to 1 Phil You invent that in 2.9.x, or did you it manually? I find no 'toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance' in SeaMonkey 2.9.1 or FireFox 12. Perhaps it was/is in the version that you are reporting using? User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.20pre) Gecko/20110606 Lightning/1.0b2pre SeaMonkey/2.0.15pre Not likely. But I did find it in 'FireFox 14.0a1 (2012-03-24)'. And checking https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751476 I see: In Firefox 13+, if you set toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance to 1, the... If you are going to comment on an issue for SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 as the OP is discussing, then it would be quite helpful if you commented on the version discussed. Perhaps these are related? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751476 The vertical scrollbar's buttons should respect toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance But if we check back a little further (follow the other referenced bug reports): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635645 [consider increasing the amount of scrolling performed by using the arrow keys] (Starting from comment 15 is interesting/telling...) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725700 [Keyboard arrow keys and scrollbar buttons should have consistent scrolling distances] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710373 [Pressing the vertical slider down arrow with smooth scrolling should move three lines instead of one] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=scrollbar+buttons It would be interesting to do a relation tree to all of these... Mozilla coordination efforts. And, no, I'm not wagging fingers at you and/or the SeaMonkey Volunteers. I think you guys do a fantastic job appreciate the effort (especially every 6 weeks :-). However, I do often find it fasinating tracking an issue from one reported, to the duplicate of this bug, to Please take this to the support forum or newsgroup. This is a verified fixed bug and commenting here unnecessarily spams a number of people who could be getting actual work done. etc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1
Today I updated two linux systems from Java (Oracle) 6 update 32 to Java 1.7.0.04 ((build 1.7.0_04-b20)) today. Java 1.7.0.04 is working fine on the same systems with: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/15.0 Firefox/15.0a1 (Firefox Nightly) Chromium: 18.0.1025.168 (Developer Build 134367 Linux) Ubuntu 11.04 Ephipany Web Browser 2.30.6 Other applications: LibreOffice 3.5.3.2 LibreOffice 3.4.6 Java 7u4 is not working on SeaMonkey Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 on either system. If Java is backed down to 6u32 then SeaMonkey (and Prefbar 6.1 - Ping Manuel) pick it up fine. Tested using http://java.com|Do I have Java? SeaMonkey Firefox Java plugin path: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04 File: /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Also tested: o Clean 'test' profiles (created new SM profiles and did not use any existing profiles). o Prefbar 6.1 on Firefox - no issues, so I tested with the existing SeaMonkey profiles with Prefbar turned off/on/uninstalled/newly reinstalled. o Windows SM 2.9.1 versions + Java 7_4: WinXP Win7 all work fine. o SeaMonkey 2.9.0 - no change. No Java related files exist in ~/.mozilla. All versions of Firefox, Firefox Nightlies, and SeaMonkey are run from ~/seamonkey (user home directories). pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey shows: [INVALID] /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ 1334223796000:$ Whereas pluginreg.dat in Firefox shows: libnpjp2.so:$ /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ :$ 1334223796000:0:5:$ a href=http://java.sun.com;Java/a plug-in for NPAPI-based browsers.:$ Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04:$ 36 0:application/x-java-vm:Java#153 Plug-in::$ 1:application/x-java-applet:Java#153 Plug-in Applet::$ etc. Note: I've renamed pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey let SM rebuild the data - result is the same. Anyone else experiencing the same/similar? Added note: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is also copied on this msg. I've set the followup-to mozilla.support.seamonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1
On 05/08/2012 07:17 PM, GerardJan wrote: GerardJan wrote: NoOp wrote: Today I updated two linux systems from Java (Oracle) 6 update 32 to Java 1.7.0.04 ((build 1.7.0_04-b20)) today. Java 1.7.0.04 is working fine on the same systems with: ... Anyone else experiencing the same/similar? Added note: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is also copied on this msg. I've set the followup-to mozilla.support.seamonkey. it works for me, version 2.12a1 sincerely, but that is on Linux 64bit inbuild Iced-Tea So actually it doesn't work for you? If you go to the java.com link I provided and test there, what does it show? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1
On 05/08/2012 06:55 PM, NoOp wrote: Today I updated two linux systems from Java (Oracle) 6 update 32 to Java 1.7.0.04 ((build 1.7.0_04-b20)) today. Java 1.7.0.04 is working fine on the same systems with: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/15.0 Firefox/15.0a1 (Firefox Nightly) Chromium: 18.0.1025.168 (Developer Build 134367 Linux) Ubuntu 11.04 Ephipany Web Browser 2.30.6 Other applications: LibreOffice 3.5.3.2 LibreOffice 3.4.6 Java 7u4 is not working on SeaMonkey Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 on either system. If Java is backed down to 6u32 then SeaMonkey (and Prefbar 6.1 - Ping Manuel) pick it up fine. Tested using http://java.com|Do I have Java? SeaMonkey Firefox Java plugin path: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04 File: /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Also tested: o Clean 'test' profiles (created new SM profiles and did not use any existing profiles). o Prefbar 6.1 on Firefox - no issues, so I tested with the existing SeaMonkey profiles with Prefbar turned off/on/uninstalled/newly reinstalled. o Windows SM 2.9.1 versions + Java 7_4: WinXP Win7 all work fine. o SeaMonkey 2.9.0 - no change. No Java related files exist in ~/.mozilla. All versions of Firefox, Firefox Nightlies, and SeaMonkey are run from ~/seamonkey (user home directories). pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey shows: [INVALID] /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ 1334223796000:$ Whereas pluginreg.dat in Firefox shows: libnpjp2.so:$ /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ :$ 1334223796000:0:5:$ a href=http://java.sun.com;Java/a plug-in for NPAPI-based browsers.:$ Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04:$ 36 0:application/x-java-vm:Java#153 Plug-in::$ 1:application/x-java-applet:Java#153 Plug-in Applet::$ etc. Note: I've renamed pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey let SM rebuild the data - result is the same. Anyone else experiencing the same/similar? Added note: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is also copied on this msg. I've set the followup-to mozilla.support.seamonkey. Nobody else? Anyone else (linux) have sun java jre1.7.0_04 installed and set as the default java? Again, in Firefox it works fine, in SeaMonkey (even with a clean test profile) it does not. *And* with the default profile prefbar 6.1 installed, prefbar declares No Java Plugin found!. I suspect it may be a path problem as the same prefbar 6.1 works just fine in Firefox (I even copy the 6.1 profile to Firefox to test. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1
On 05/12/2012 06:47 AM, Christian Riechers wrote: On 05/12/2012 05:24 AM, NoOp wrote: ... Anyone else experiencing the same/similar? Added note: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is also copied on this msg. I've set the followup-to mozilla.support.seamonkey. Nobody else? Anyone else (linux) have sun java jre1.7.0_04 installed and set as the default java? Again, in Firefox it works fine, in SeaMonkey (even with a clean test profile) it does not. *And* with the default profile prefbar 6.1 installed, prefbar declares No Java Plugin found!. I suspect it may be a path problem as the same prefbar 6.1 works just fine in Firefox (I even copy the 6.1 profile to Firefox to test. I do see the exact same behavior here with OpenSuSE 11.4. Java 1.7.0_04 works fine with both, FF12 and FF13 beta, but does not work with SM 2.9.1. I also have the [invalid] section in pluginreg.dat. Java doesn't even show up in the Add-on manager under plugins. I haven't noticed before, since I don't use SM often, and Java is disabled most of the time anyway. Thanks Christian! I also tested with the nightly Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/15.0 Firefox/15.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.12a1 and it doesn't work there as well. I did find that SeaMonkey is marking Java 7 as invalid in the pluginreg.dat file: [INVALID] /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ 1334223796000:$ Given that it does work with SeaMonkey in Windows (XP and 7), I suspect that the linux builds may still have a paramater that blocklists Java 7. Maybe related to the older Mozilla blocklist? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p85 Who is affected? All Firefox users who have installed the Java plugin, JRE versions below 1.6.0_31 or between 1.7.0 and 1.7.0_2. Perhaps it doesn't recognize 1.7.0_4? I've checked /seamonkey/blocklist.xml and no java is listed there, so that's not it. I guess I'll try the old fashioned way with a symlink in ~./mozilla/plugins. Thanks again for verifying. Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Bug 754622] Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1
On 05/13/2012 06:30 AM, Jim Taylor wrote: NoOp wrote: On 05/12/2012 10:55 AM, NoOp wrote: ... Given that it does work with SeaMonkey in Windows (XP and 7), I suspect that the linux builds may still have a paramater that blocklists Java 7. Maybe related to the older Mozilla blocklist? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p85 Who is affected? All Firefox users who have installed the Java plugin, JRE versions below 1.6.0_31 or between 1.7.0 and 1.7.0_2. Perhaps it doesn't recognize 1.7.0_4? I've checked /seamonkey/blocklist.xml and no java is listed there, so that's not it. I guess I'll try the old fashioned way with a symlink in ~./mozilla/plugins. Symlink doesn't work either. I've filed a bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622 [Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 does not work in SeaMonkey] Please feel free to add onto that bug if you can. I have added comment 2 to the bug to show that jave 7_04 does work with SeaMonkey 2.9.1 on Windows so it's not a universal problem across all platforms. Jim This thread, and the bug report stated that: 1) the bug is linux only (Windows SM 2.9.1 versions + Java 7_4: WinXP Win7 all work fine., and 2) Platform: x86 Linux. But thanks for checking anyway :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1
On 05/13/2012 04:50 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: I just noticed after reading this thread that somewhere between 2.7.2 and this release that my Java plugin disappeared. I am running on Linux Mint Katya 11 x64 with the x64 build of 2.9.1 and my installed Java is: java -version java version 1.6.0_22 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) (6b22-1.10.6-0ubuntu1) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) That is due to this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html [Important notice regarding Java packages in Partner archive] Basically, Sun Java was dropped due to licensing and security issues. My version is deliberately installed: $ java -version java version 1.7.0_04 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b20) and Oracle have addressed (for the time being) the security issues in jre1.7 with update 04. Also jre1.7 has completely replaced jre1.6 the only way to get jre1.6u32 now (as far as I know) is to download from the technetwork page: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html There is no plug-in shown for Java in SM 2.9.1, but of course the file is still on the system. At this point I still have 2.7.2 installed on an old system, but I would like to get the Java support back on my main system with 2.9.1 here. Older versions were also blocked in Mozilla, See: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2012/04/02/blocking-java/ [Blocklisting Older Versions of Java] (read comments) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p85 [Java Plugin has been blocked for your protection.] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739955 [[Windows] Blocklist vulnerable jre versions pre update 31 due to security issue] How do I need to accomplish this? Is there an updated plugin required for this release? You can turn it back on via about:config: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Firefox%20makes%20unrequested%20connections#w_extension-blocklist-updating However, be aware that setting 'extensions.blocklist.enabled' to false with disable _all_ blocklist checks. In your case it's probably better to modify the blocklist.xml file to remove any references to p80 p85. Or just replace it with the blocklist.xml from the current version of Firefox. ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: iPhone's e-mails with attached photos.
On 05/13/2012 01:33 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/13/12 12:30 PM, Ant wrote: On 5/13/2012 11:18 AM PT, David E. Ross typed: Photos taken with the iPhone upside-down or sideways are automatically reoriented when displayed by the iPhone. There is a flag in the image file that indicates the orientation of the iPhone when the photo was taken and a sensor in the iPhone that indicates the current orientation. There has been much debate about whether to reorient photos in TBird and SeaMonkey's mail-news according the the flag. See bug #298619 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298619. Wow! I thought there was something wrong with my old computer/SeaMonkey! Do I assume other e-mail clients, beside Mozilla's, do this too? I am getting more and more iPhone's sent photographs/photos. these days. :( I don't know about other E-mail clients. I understand that not all digital cameras set the EXIF flag, especially older cameras. The real problem is that there are few (if any) tools to tweak the EXIF flag. Thus, a photo that has been manually rotated (e.g., via Micro$oft's Photo Editor) will be again rotated -- incorrectly -- by an application that does check the EXIF flag because the sender was not able to reset that flag. Frankly, I still consider photos from phones to be of poorer quality than photos from an actual camera. I use a Canon digital camera and do not have any kind of smart phone. I always view my photos and often resize and crop them before sending them via E-mail. In the process, I manually rotate those that require reorientation. I have yet to find a specification for the EXIF flag. Thus, I cannot manually reset the flag with my hex editor if I manually rotate a photo. I think you may be looking for the Orientation Tag? Dec 274 Hex 112. See the EXIF spec(s) 2.2 or 2.3. This may be of some use (I've not tried it - yet): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/exif-viewer/developers https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/exif-viewer/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
