Re: Gmail Port Configurations?
Hey Nick, Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 12:39:07 PM, you wrote: I'm trying to set up my Google Mail Account with TB but am having a problem trying to find the correct POP and SMTP Port numbers to use with TB. Can someone who successfully uses TB with Google Mail be so kind as to list the Port numbers for me? You should be able to select the option to use encrypted connection for both POP3 and SMTP, and it should select the correct ports. I vaguely remember having to check off an option in my account preferences in gmail as well however. If you still need the ports after all that, POP3S is 995, and SMTPS is 465. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp4tmZQy1lnU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how can i filter out email that has no to addressee
Hey Ben, Thursday, January 5, 2006, 3:17:34 AM, you wrote: Howdy Laura, Thursday, January 5, 2006, 5:47:11 AM, Laura wrotened: awc I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to filter the following types of awc email: Well i'll suggest some... probably someone else will know better... When a mail comes in that is junk select it... go to the specials and have the bat create a filter for it? awc 1 - has special symbols (not a-z, A-Z, 0-9) Text does not contain awc 2 - the addressee or from name is blank Sender does not contain @ awc 3 - is an HTML email file .html is attached awc I am getting so sick of all this junk stuff!! And a lot of those awc really would cut down my spam. But how else will you find out about Ciallis awc OH! and is there a way to text edit the filters? I really don't like awc the darn pull down dialogues that have been the latest rage since they awc redid the filter function. I think there is a way of importing them from the clipboard. Dashed if my brain will work after working all night... Select the filter, and ctrl c, you can then paste into notepad, recopy, and ctrl v back into the filters dialog. Though you might need a degree in quantum physics... this is a completely empty filter: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [D4EC80BD.01C61929.4BCC3335.13191A10] Name: New\20filter Filter: 0 IsActive Ignore endFilter Might need to play around to experiment with what you can do... or maybe setup a dummy filter with all the options to find out what each thing does. :) -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Basic macro issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, October 30, 2005 05:00, John Phillips wrote: Need to change the sender when replying Bat! to mail downloaded from GMail. %From='Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%- That one unfortunately does not work! Thought maybe I had made a typo, so I copied the above exactly (yes I know the address etc. will be wrong), and the From field in a replied mail still only had the GMail addy. Am I missing something here? Where did you paste it? Try: %FROM=''%- %FROM='Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%- - -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkNlA2IACgkQK4PoFPj9H3PtuQCeMejx1DN+iAM44ZI8VlJHgRBn C4wAn07yXJwZIzbDlicD50XQel/1u0Gt =/bFy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: PGP to GPG Migration
Hi Chris, On Tuesday, September 06, 2005, you wrote: Chris @ 9/05/2005 4:50:45 PM SOT: PGP to GPG Migration mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SOT = Slightly Off-Topic Is there any documentation for migrating from PGP to GPG? I need to use GPG now because I am dual-booting with Linux. Anyone? When I did my original migration, I had the fortune of being able to just rename the key files from .skr and .pkr to .gpg and move into the GPG home directory. If that doesn't work, you can always open the PGP key manager, and export all the keys and import them into GPG. Don't forget to export your private/secret keys, and import those too. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpGrxpp5oqif.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP key request
Hi Vladimir 'insider' Prohorov, On Tuesday, August 09, 2005, you wrote: Good day, Jurgen. Please send me yours PGP key. Folder template? :) -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpG88YePXoY1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP key request
Hi Jurgen Haug, On Tuesday, August 09, 2005, you wrote: Hello Vladimir, Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 9:00:25 PM, you asked for my PGP key. Please find it attached. This is an automated reply and your mail won't get read. Looks like you might need to fix your auto-responder not use reply-all, but just reply to sender. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpRRxxEkJAIF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!
Hi Allister Jenks, On Thursday, June 23, 2005, you wrote: Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 10:38:11 PM, Allie wrote: Given that TB! is clearly a multi-user application, wouldn't it be a good idea for them to support Windows' capability? AM Well, it does. I get the feeling that you want what happens to TB!'s AM configuration when logged into XP as user 1, should happen to the AM configuration of TB! for XP user 2? Yes, that's exactly what I want. After all, if I set up a new email account, or create colour groups or a myriad of other things, they are all perfectly visibile/operable from the other user's log on. So far, this is the only setting I have found which is not. Am I right in assuming you have your mail directory stored under TheBat! application directory (for example c:\Program Files\TheBat!\)? If that is the case, then the reason you are seeing some of these changes across users is because they are all using the same files. If you were to do a complete backup of TB, and do a completely clean install (remove old tb etc etc), you'll find RitLabs has gone the way of the standard when it comes to applications and personal settings, and now stores the mail directory (by default) in your profile home. On Windows 2K and higher for example, that's c:\documents and settings\username\. That said, there was a lot of stuff in the registry under TB! I think they couldn't make up their minds. There has always been a lot of stuff in the RIT key for TheBat. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpI5ZXEuERfY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering for TBUDL
Hi Darrin, On Monday, June 13, 2005, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, I see in the email that was sent when I subscribe how to filter tbudl email to a specific folder. Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for Strings Location Presence Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kludges Yes Options: Regular expressions (Checked) Try using Header, Matches all as Regexp, and Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. I dont see these options when filtering. Is this for an older version of TB? Yes, it would be. Marck, time to update the welcome message? ;) -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpsZKRjLHbrG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat!] Simple regex in macro help please
Hi Marten Gallagher, On Saturday, June 11, 2005, you wrote: I can't find anywhere where it says what the %- and the #- things do at the end of lines... They get rid of new lines (at least %- does, not sure about #-). For example, in a template, put ===8 ==8 ==8--- %- %- %- %- ===8-- Then use it in an email, and see what result you have. And finally - do I take it that ' and are interchangeable as long as they are in matching pairs? I believe that is the case yes. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Signature Oddity... [Was Re: Getting rid of blkank lines in new posts, etc.]
Hi John Phillips, On Saturday, June 11, 2005, you wrote: I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow I noticed this at the bottom of your signature. I think there is either a mistake here, or in your signature file. I think the full quote is something like: I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. Or something to that affect. Are you using a cookie file? Or is this cookie in your account properties? Or is this a template? Is it correct in either location? Was it the intention to leave it incomplete? :) From past experience, if you want your cookie to appear on multiple lines, you have to use the \n characters in the cookie itself to wrap it. For example: I can please only\none person per day. This would have the effect of: I can please only one person per day. Note it really is the characters \ and n and not a line feed character. If you put a line feed (enter key) in the cookie file, TheBat treats them as separate cookies. I think this is documented somewhere in the help file (probably a little better explained than I have managed). -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wanadoo problems (again!)
Hi Richard Wakeford, On Monday, June 06, 2005, you wrote: For the last couple of months I have started having problems with a couple of addresses where the mail is bounced back with the following message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host smtpin.ntlworld.com[212.250.162.8] said: 452 Message rejected (in reply to end of DATA command) 452 means insufficient system storage per RFC 2821 (see section 4.2.2). This could mean a couple of things. 1) ntlworld.com need some help running mail servers and their drives are full on the incoming smtp service. 2) the recipient you are sending mail to has filled up their allocated space. As a side note to this, 4xx messages are non-fatal temporary errors. This means that the sending SMTP service (wanadoo.fr I assume) should be retrying the delivery of that message, but instead it is bouncing it back. The RFC seems to allow a little bit of flexibility in this section as it defines the 4xx message as temporary and says the sending SMTP service may try again. This means that it's probably optional to the sender if they want to resend. This would most likely be the reason they are bouncing right back to you. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgptQr20ipRF8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: File folders, USB drives, and other such things.
Hi Nick Danger, On Tuesday, May 24, 2005, you wrote: I've run across a bit of an oddball thing in running a home and work installation of TB! My work program stores all pertinent info and files in the main /the bat folder, while my home install stores the same files in the /mail folder. Anyone have any ideas what would cause that or what value I need to tweak to change it? Options | Preferences | System The Mail Directory option defines where TB creates all the mail account files (by default). You can also specify accounts to store their information in a different location by right clicking on an account, and going to properties. In the properties dialog, you can look at the Files and Directories option. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anonymous emails?
Hi Peter Palmreuther, On Monday, May 23, 2005, you wrote: Hello Jonathan, On Monday, May 23, 2005 at 5:30:54 AM Jonathan [JA] wrote: I want to be totally invisible and untraceable. If I'm browsing the web, I'm using a tunnel (proxy server 127.0.0.1:8080) that totally hides my identify (IP address) ... SMN ...are you really sure you are invisible... He is! I bet he blocks packets of type ICMP Echo request and drops them on his firewall, therefore he's *absolutely invisible*!!! Trust me!1!eins!elf!! ;-) JA *coughs* black hole *coughs*... JA Problem with blocking ICMP echo requests is it is just as bad as JA having them enabled... People can still see you there, you just appear JA as a black hole sucking in the packets ;) Really? You mean the absence of information *is* information? ;-) Something like if the router in front of him doesn't tell me he's not there, he cough*IS*cough there!?! ;-) If he has access to control the router in front of him, that probably means he is using a small network (or even a business network), and the IP addresses behind are probably no routable... or he works for his service provider, and can control them at a higher level. If that is the case, then sure, if he can get them to report the host doesn't exist then you really cannot tell without more testing than ICMP echo requests. But if he's blocking on just the firewall, then the complete absence of information *is* information ;) Still leaves the question: Where is the black hole located *if* somebody enables this security feature? I have a theory this black hole is a few inches in front of the monitor, between a pair of human ears ;-) hehe... trying to work out if that is a joke on me or not ;) -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp9oErCpaF1o.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anonymous emails?
Hi Peter Palmreuther, On Sunday, May 22, 2005, you wrote: Hello St, On Sunday, May 22, 2005 at 5:40:50 PM St [SMN] wrote: I want to be totally invisible and untraceable. If I'm browsing the web, I'm using a tunnel (proxy server 127.0.0.1:8080) that totally hides my identify (IP address) ... SMN ...are you really sure you are invisible... He is! I bet he blocks packets of type ICMP Echo request and drops them on his firewall, therefore he's *absolutely invisible*!!! Trust me!1!eins!elf!! ;-) *coughs* black hole *coughs*... Problem with blocking ICMP echo requests is it is just as bad as having them enabled... People can still see you there, you just appear as a black hole sucking in the packets ;) -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpJiwKRdEWrC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Thursday, April 28, 2005, 9:59:24 AM, you wrote: I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it show up when I am composing a HTML message? IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) My IRC client handles *this* as bold, and _this_ as underlined... I quite like it, though not many people understand it when they use outlook, and can very easily hit the [B] or the [U] buttons ;) My IRC client doesn't support /italics/ though, it is ran in a terminal, no slanting there ;) -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpfBAZqtAanX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Voyager
I just got an email about Bat Voyager with a link the ritlabs website but there is nothing there apart from a news item saying the same as the email. Am I missing something? In broken, incomplete, English too... I was quite 'ammused'. :) While I know the majority of the software company isn't primarily English, they have plenty of English speaking helpers that could have proofed it :) And no, I don't think you missed anything, I couldn't find much else about the software except what was already included in the email. Looks like they're giving out free email accounts too... interesting. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.01 Installer
On Saturday, October 16, 2004, Bill McQuillan wrote... After getting the e-mail from Ritlabs announcing the availability of 3.01, I went to the download page and discovered that even though the page shows the size of each version of The Bat!, what I actually get when downloading the home edition is a tiny .msi file and NOT the actual program itself! Not entirely sure what you are after. The .msi file is the installer, the executable is contained within the installer. It is not on the web site. MSI files can be created in a number of ways, one of them is a web installer, but the method TB developers use is the installer contains the executable file. To test this, disconnect any connection from the internet, and try the install. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they go flying by. pgpw578fn74IL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Redirection
On Friday, October 15, 2004, TBUDL wrote... Can anyone help resolve why when I redirect an incoming email which contains active hyperlinks i.e web page URL does it redirect with a plain text message format thereby rendering the facility of clicking the URL useless to the new recipient? assuming you'r original email was sent as plaintext as well this is simply due to the email client of your recipent. when you've receipt your email as html either forward it as html as well or don't inline the original message but attach it to the forward. You misunderstand my message. I am referring to the facility of REDIRECTION which should not make any changes to the original email and NOT FORWARDING. REDIRECTION allows you to resend the original email to a 3rd party without the email appearing to have come from you. When doing this manually in TheBat the hypertext URL is converted to plain text and is no longer active (clickable). This then renders the facility of REDIRECTION useless. Unless I have switched something on/off that I should not have done. Is the original email plain text, or HTML? TB shouldn't modify anything on redirection, though I vaguely remember seeing something crop up about HTML redirection in the past, but it might have been for forwards only. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 'The Geek shall inherit the earth.' - Linus 5:5 pgpvzAAfghJVP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP - Server problems
Hi Chris, Hi all, I'm currently experiencing difficulties in connecting to one of my IMAP accounts and the following message appears in the log; !06/10/2004, 22:25:52: IMAP - Cannot select the mailbox INBOX. Server reports: System I/O error Any idea what it means? This looks like an issue with the IMAP server itself, and not The Bat!. You might want to contact your provider to verify. -- Jonathan Angliss Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC5 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 I'm just here for moral support... please ignore the gun. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Does 3.0 properly render Outlook email?
On Wednesday, September 01, 2004, jwayne wrote... A major problem with 2.x was that it wouldn't render Outlook email properly. It often concatenates words. Very annoying, especially when one wants to reply/forward the message. The bug was reported long ago but was never fixed. Does 3.0 fix this? No, but the problem is a mixed issue. The cause is Outlook wrapping HTML lines, but not showing any kind of spacing between the two words. Nicely formatted email based HTML, would look like this: this is a new = line The = would tell TB to leave the space there (or they could use %20 or nbsp;), and would nicely put a break in it. However, outlook does it like this: this is a new line The trailing space doesn't exist, so when TB unwraps it, it has no idea that they aren't two separate words. Of course, it could do it a different way, and treat a new line as a white space like most programs do. But then, what do you do with the additional space that gets put in there if somebody uses the top format? ;) Take a look at the HTML formatted email that TB sends out, it inserts the =, there are a few others do as well, I believe evolution does too. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Beware programmers carrying screwdrivers. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL cert store in The Bat! 3?
On Wednesday, September 01, 2004, Martyn Drake wrote... Well, I think I've figured out what the cause of the problem was with The Bat! version 3 not being able to pick up mail from my cPanel server earlier this morning. As the certificate contains a different host name to that what I'm using for the server, I must have somehow just clicked 'continue' without adding the certificate to The Bat! and consequently it was getting confused. However, I'm unable to find any certificate store/settings within the program to make amendments to what I've already approved. Check in the Address Book. There is a section called Trusted Root CA, you might find the certificates that were imported in there. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mistress: halfway between a mister and a mattress. pgp9s2HTFUmA8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
On Wednesday, September 01, 2004, Doug Weller wrote... I tried out the 3 beta and saw the tick box in Account properties, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't there always, and it isn't in my 3 final. Now you see it now you don't? How do I get NFS in version 3? The NFS is no longer optional as it was in the beta during testing. It IS the filter system. Go to Account, Sorting Office/Filter, and you'll see what is the new filtering system. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 War is God's way of teaching us geography. pgpUwjNPCLuQJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Does 3.0 properly render Outlook email?
On Wednesday, September 01, 2004, jwayne wrote... A major problem with 2.x was that it wouldn't render Outlook email properly. It often concatenates words. Very annoying, especially when one wants to reply/forward the message. The bug was reported long ago but was never fixed. Does 3.0 fix this? JA No, but the problem is a mixed issue. The cause is Outlook wrapping JA HTML lines, but not showing any kind of spacing between the two words. JA Nicely formatted email based HTML, would look like this: JA this is a new = JA line JA The = would tell TB to leave the space there (or they could use %20 or JA nbsp;), and would nicely put a break in it. [..] I hear what you are saying but it's only on a reply that TB screws up. 1) TB is able to read the multipart/mixed message correctly. Hrm, does outlook actually use text parts too? Last time I checked it didn't, and if you have your viewer set to text and html, and not html and text, then you'll see the reader concatenates the text as well. I deal with outlook mail all day being in an Exchange environment. 2) The attached HTML-message file renders correctly when launched Attachments are stripped if I remember correctly. 3) Forwarding the message (contrary to my original post) doesn't concatenate Because it includes the HTML part. The burden (unfortunately) really rests on TB to fix how it handles replies to such messages. MS is probably not going to do a diddly damn about it. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out it's a mixed issue, TB should regard the CRLF as a whitespace, while Microsoft should be nice, and put the character on the end ;). If you put the following HTML in a file called test.html on your desktop, and open with any browser, you'll see a space as well: html body this is a new line /body /html So browsers even regard the CRLF as a whitespace too, which is technically correct. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 If it ain't water-cooled... it's a terminal! pgpyOKNqcldN1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid-anyone else do this :)
On Friday, August 06, 2004, Roelof Otten wrote... DR Im so use to highlighting reply emails and pressing F4 with the bat, DR that I find my self doing this in forums. Happens to the best of us. When I want to send an email at work (using MS Outlook) I often press F2 when I'm finished, probably since I'm using two programs that use that key for sending. Ctrl+Shift+M doesn't seem to work in Outlook or Evolution either ;) No Darrin, you're not the only one. :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Make headlines! Use a corduroy pillow. pgpR8r6gLsfpF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP Servers
On Monday, June 21, 2004, John Phillips wrote... This is probably off topic and the moderators will kill me, but here we go :) Here in Sweden our ISPs are trying to stop SPAM and Viruses by not allowing connections to other SMTP servers than the one in the ISPs network. This means that on my notebook I need to use one SMTP server when I'm at home and one when I'm at work. Easy solution, get your own SMTP server which I fail to see how your isp can stop you using. Quite easily... at the router level block port 25 connections to anything but their SMTP servers. Running your own mail server then is pointless. Also some ISPs don't allow you to run services, and doing so introduces a breach of contract. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A preposition is what you don't end a sentence with. Um. pgpxedlOxVWsa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
On Tuesday, June 08, 2004, Leif Gregory wrote... Duane ...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options. Don't need the Regular Expressions. That'll break it. Would do in this example, Duane put Reply-To:.*TBUDL The .* wouldn't match anything if regular expressions were off, so it'd try to find the string: Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Which it wouldn't find. But as others have suggested, just use the same string, but without the .*... Unless the normal filter can do wild card matching without regex enabled... If so, I missed it. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I'll have one brain on drugs with bacon, toast and juice. pgpoBWrk7EKnU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ?subject= and spaces in it
On Saturday, May 29, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... You're likely to get a moderator jump on you for top posting... Suggest you read the welcome message ;) The Bat! Is made for users and not for RFCs. To communicate with the world, TheBat MUST follow RFCs. If there are some bad webmasters the user of The Bat don't have to suffer of some RFCs... There is a hack around it, and it is a registry change to fix it... read the archives, there are many items on this. For example Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 work fine with both variants and it splits on some RFCs, it just do its work. Outlook fails to follow many RFCs, and causes MANY problems with other clients because of it... going to tell the other programmers to fix their stuff too because MS doesn't want to follow the rules? They're setup for a reason :) So you just trying to tell me that Ritlabs don't think about its users - it think about some stupid RFC. There are very few stupid RFCs... the rest are written for people to communicate with... if they didn't exist, people wouldn't be able to communicate on the internet. Also this BUG with ?subject= is not that case when you have to speak about RFC. RFC says that any spaces in a URI MUST be encoded with %20... That means that spaces have to be converted... anybody that doesn't is breaking RFCs. It must be done so that The Bat understands spaces and this will neither way break the work of The Bat with RFC. Erm... If TB is changed to accept it, then it does break RFCs. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Squirt guns don't soak people, People soak people. pgpqHTnDVRyX2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems Submitting Bug Reports
On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, Brien King wrote... Well, I submitted a bug report (Using the option under the Help menu) and I received the following message back: The original message was received at Wed, 26 May 2004 02:36:32 +0300 from [216.140.43.77]) [] [EMAIL PROTECTED] delayed. Negative RCPT TO reply from argus.ritlabs.com [195.138.101.49]. Host 'argus.ritlabs.com' says: 450 4.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] via [212.56.194.247] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] denied for 600 seconds. Anyone else getting this? They're using a greylisting technology... It forces the sending SMTP server to be delayed (read the message) as it sends a 450 which is a temporary error message. Your sending mail server SHOULD attempt to resent at a later time (though you don't have control over it). The sending server suggests 600 seconds, while the sending SMTP server won't likely read past the 450 part. People are trying this as an anti-spam thing, as most spamming software connects directly to the recipient mail server, and has little respect for RFCs, and as such would ignore that message, so the mail would be dropped. If your SMTP server follows RFCs, then it would have been retried at a later time, and delivered. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Sty... pgp8xNnUj8nZz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cookies, how to create them
On Friday, May 14, 2004, Jimmie Toney wrote... I have been using TB for a couple of days now and am beginning to have questions. I understand what cookies are in the templates but am a little vague on how and where to create them. In addition to Mica's answer, you can also put them in the account properties. Select the account, go to the account menu, then properties. You'll notice under the Templates section, you'll see a cookies section. As with Mica's answer, you have to put each cookie on a new line. Mica's suggestion (in my opinion) is a better option as it allows you to use the cookies across accounts. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Linux renders ships, NT is rendering ships useless pgplg8WHirCP9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Initials in replies
On Friday, May 14, 2004, rich gregory wrote... PN %WRAPPED='In a message (with the subject %SUBJ) on %ODATE, you said:' PN %Quotestyle='=%Qinclude=Initials'%- PN %Qinclude=cleanup%- PN %QUOTES%- MDP It's a 3 QT set. Full name and Full name - no AB entry are MDP also required. I have been using only a SINGLE quote QT in my reply template.. On %ODateEn thus spake %OFromFName: %QUOTESTYLE==%qinclude(Initials) %QUOTES=%TEXT 1) What is the QT cleanup for? Probably removes PGP stuff from the top when people use inline signing. The details for it are likely to appear in the macro library (see link at bottom of this email). 2) What does the macro %WRAPPED do? It rewraps the text. 3) How is %QUOTES%- different from %QUOTES=%TEXT? The second removes any carriage returns you put after the text you type in the template... An example is to copy this into a new message template, and find out what happens: Hi Bye Include all the carriage returns... Now do this: Hi %- %- %- %- %- %- %- Bye Then use the template... you'll notice the second has no carriage returns. The %- suppresses them. 4) What are the other 2 QTs I am missing? Missed that bit of the thread, I'm sure Marck has details on that :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Diagonally parked in a parallel universe. pgptIfD5bH1p7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
On Monday, May 10, 2004, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... where news:// is clearly the preferred way to specify an *article*, but nntp:// refers to a group - which is what we're doing! I will change the references since OE is broken, but I don't think it's right to do so. Or, point the users to the main gmane page, and let them follow the instructions ;) Which... also specifies nntp:// So once again, OE breaks stuff ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Forget 0 to 60. It's 95 to 55 that counts! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A question of control
On Friday, May 07, 2004, Gerard wrote... It is more a case of interpreting a line as a signature delimiter. This: -- Is seen as a sig delimiter. Not here it isn't... do you have the PGP stripper macro by any chance are you? I cannot remember the real name of the macro, but it is usually used to strip out the PGP information, and might be grabbing this too. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk?! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search on imap account!?
On Monday, May 03, 2004, Dave Gorman wrote... it's possible to search a message in a Imap account?? If I try to search something, on the search interface I press START but afer a second it say that nothing was found. Probably it don't search at all! It does search. It just doesn't display immediately, and doesn't updated the No messages Found status consistently. The only way to tell when it is done searching is to watch that account's activity in the Connection Centre. You will see it opening the various folders involved in the search. When it is done, it will just say On-line. Yet another IMAP quirk that I really hope gets some attention... It will be apparently... I complained about this when IMAP was first introduced, Stefan mentioned that they were rewriting the search engine which should resolve this issue. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Black holes were created when God divided by 0. pgpSdbEDonXlI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP: Deleted messages
On Tuesday, May 04, 2004, Clive Taylor wrote... Is there an option to show deleted messages in IMAP folders; i.e. display with strikeout text? No. What's wrong with Browse deleted messages under the Folder menu? Okay, it doesn't show them with a strike-out through them... but it's there. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 If worst comes to worst, you *CAN* turn most things off. pgpkXjMJQX7yl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP: Deleted messages
On Wednesday, May 05, 2004, Martin Webster wrote... Is there an option to show deleted messages in IMAP folders; i.e. display with strikeout text? No. JA What's wrong with Browse deleted messages under the Folder JA menu? How about, it doesn't work? Works fine here... guess it might depend on your delete settings. JA Okay, it doesn't show them with a strike-out through them... but JA it's there. It seems that displaying messages like this is the de facto standard. With the strike through? I've seen it in 2 programs I think. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Two silkworms were having a race, but it ended in a tie. pgpkj9mOr44pH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how do I retrieve missing test folders
On Wednesday, May 05, 2004, Jerry wrote... After updating to 2.10.01, I found all my test folders have been converted into Virtual Folders. I thought I saw in a post that v2.10.03 fixed this, so I upgraded. Still VFs. I have many test folders, which oddly enough, I use for testing things. The mail in these folders is important, and I cannot get to them. A silly question if I may... if they are important mails, why are you using them for testing? I have tried renaming at the OS level, then doing a folder refresh and a 'find lost folders' command to no avail. How do I get access to the messages in my folders named test? Have you tried going back down to the version you were at before they changed, and getting access there? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 What happens when you get scared half to death.twice? pgpGBmhbjvB4T.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [notspam] Re: Any XRay users can answer this q?
On Sunday, May 02, 2004, Marten Gallagher wrote... I wouldn't recommend using ports below 1024 except port 25. [snip] If you must use a port different to 25, it is strongly suggested you use above 1024. Which requires the question: why would one NOT use port 25? I'd recommend fixing whatever program you're using for spam filtering, it appears to be changing the subject of non-spam... that's not a very good practise. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 It used to be only death and taxes were inevitable. Now, of course, there's shipping and handling, too. pgpn0KWAZXTE1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Any XRay users can answer this q?
On Saturday, May 01, 2004, Gerard wrote... MG What should the local and the remote port numbers be? [..] I use 44 here. Just make sure you use the same number with TB! and Xray. I wouldn't recommend using ports below 1024 except port 25. The port range under 1024 are reserved ports for special registered services such as www, ntp, smtp etc.. picking a port like 44 could knock something your OS uses as a requirement, and cause all kinds of havoc... If you must use a port different to 25, it is strongly suggested you use above 1024. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Catastrophe n. an award for the cat with the nicest buns pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Receipt reading confirmations
On Wednesday, April 28, 2004, Richard H. Stoddard wrote... I sometimes ask for receipt and reading confirmations on messages, since where I live delivery is never 100% guaranteed. Yet I've never received one. Receipt confirmations are up to the server admin to enable. Most SMTP servers I have worked with have it shut off by default. Read receipt is up to the end user to confirm they want to send it. So both of them might be useless depending on a number of factors. However, I can say that read receipts do work fine here. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Ethernet (n): something used to catch the etherbunny. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Reply-To?
On Wednesday, April 28, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote... PM However, the reply-to for TBUDL has changed, so that my filter PM didn't catch the messages. My filter continues to work. Reply-To:.*TBUDL present in kludges regex on. That wouldn't always be a logical query... I could setup my own email on my server [EMAIL PROTECTED], then email you... if my reply-to is the same as my sending address, then my person email directed to you will be moved to your tbudl folder :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Socrates: I drank WHAT?! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Reply-To?
On Wednesday, April 28, 2004, Roelof Otten wrote... Reply-To:.*TBUDL JA That wouldn't always be a logical query... I could setup my own JA email on my server [EMAIL PROTECTED], then email you... if my JA reply-to is I could setup something on my own server with a reply-to like [EMAIL PROTECTED], thus making it necessary to check for a trailing '' after the .com Unfortunately that would stop functioning after changes as the one that happened. There ain't no such thing as a 'never fail filter'. No... but what's wrong with the List-ID header? ;) You cannot change that, the list software writes it... even with an opening and closing you can still use a similar filter: List-Id:.*tbudl Location: Kludges Presence: Yes Regex on -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Monday is a hard way to spend 1/7 of your life. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Reply-To?
On Wednesday, April 28, 2004, Mary Bull wrote... MB Marck, what's your best advice to me? MDP Well, I use this: MDP String : Reply-To:.*TBUDL@ MDP Location: Kludges MDP Presence: Yes MDP RegEx : (On) Well, then that's what I'm going to do. Somehow at some point I got the idea that I needed to put the domain in the string. But I guess that's because I didn't understand what RegEx was doing. In this case, the .* means match any character except a new line... and the rest on that bit you can work out... as for not including the domain, you wouldn't need to, it is just looking for the Presence of that string anywhere in the headers, so: Reply-To: bobbobobobbob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would match (hence my comment in my email msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the follow-up msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])... But so would the string: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Like searching for the word 'and' in a text file about musical bands ;) Band would match, so would and ;) Make any sense? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Hal 9000 - Put down those Windows disks Dave Dave? DAVE!! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messy preview window scroll
On Monday, April 26, 2004, Stuart Cuddy wrote... JA If I navigate back to the long message I just scrolled to the JA bottom of, I can see it has moved back up to the top, which I can JA understand it doing, but I'm not understanding your issue. Try this: 1) Use the space bar to go from one message into the long message. 2) Hit the space bar again to move one page down in the long message. 3) Hit the down arrow key. (You may want to do this when the last line you are trying to read is half way on the bottom of the page) 4) When you hit the arrow key the message you are reading jumps back to the top of the long message. (This is not what I would have expected. The problem is that as you move in the message using the space bar the cursor does not move with it and when you hit the arrow key the message jumps back to the cursor. Okay, I see what you're talking about now... however, I cannot reproduce this... what editor/viewer are you using? It might make a difference, I'm using the plain text viewer. 1) Start by opening the long message and putting the blinking cursor right at the beginning. 2) Now use the down arrow key to move down the document. 3) As you move down the page you are viewing will start scrolling up. 4) The cursor that started at the top of the page now starts moving down the page. 5) I don't consider this to be normal. Usually the cursor will either stay put, while the page scrolls or the cursor will move down the page until it reaches the bottom and then the page will start to scroll. 6) Once the cursor in The Bat does reach the bottom it then seems to bounce off the bottom and then go up and down as you continue to scroll. 7) This then creates a problem at the top of the preview screen as I tend to read the text just before it scrolls off the top of the screen. Instead of scrolling off one row of text at a time it will sometimes move half a line, sometimes one line and sometimes 2 lines. Okay... again, I am unable to reproduce, what editor/viewer are you using? Actually... no need to answer... I switched my editor, the rich text viewer DOES do this, but the plain text one doesn't. This goes the same for the above issue. So it is viewer specific... might have been worth mentioning ;) JA Erm... how would you highlight text for reply? This is the way the preview pane worked in previous versions. I just use the mouse to select text. I realize that many people may want to use the arrow keys to select text, thus the option to turn off the blinking cursor. Not sure it'd be worth it... but each to his own ;) I just noticed that you are using he Bat! v2.10.01. Maybe this problem was fixed and this has been a meaningless discussion. If so please let me know. :) No... it's the choice of viewer... your choice of viewer (Rich Text) does this, but the plain text one doesn't... I guess it might be worth mentioning it if you'd reported this as a bug :) Unless of course, I missed your mentioning it. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Sty... pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
On Monday, April 26, 2004, M i c C u l l e n wrote... Threading - is it possible to get the program to only expand threads with unread messages in them? Don't think so. Is it possible to only show genuinely unread messages as unread, rather than all the way from an unread message all the way back to the thread root? It is showing only the ones unread that are unread, look at the envelope icon. It just bolds the font of all the parents so you can see at a glance, which threads still have unread messages. In Agent, one-click browsing allows the use of the spacebar to move to the next unread message - can this be done in The Bat!? Yep... if you hit ALT-F12, it'll show you a whole bunch of shortcut keys (customizable). If you use the ticker, and enable the virtual folder view (View - Message List) when you open a message, if you select any message in there, and use the space bar, it'll move to the next message. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 We're lost, yes.but we're making good time. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messy preview window scroll
On Sunday, April 25, 2004, Stuart Cuddy wrote... I have added the following bug notes to the bug at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002892 Please support a fix. 1. If you use the spacebar to move between messages, while the focus is on the preview pane, and you move into a long message and continue using the space bar to move down the message and then hit the down arrow key, the message then jumps back to the top of the message. I believe it is because there is no cooperation between the movement on the screen and the cursor. This doesn't entirely make sense to me. I assume you mean that you use the cursor keys (up/down) to move about in the message body, then you hit the space bar to move to the next message right? And you don't want it to move to the top of the next message? Or am I missing something? If I navigate back to the long message I just scrolled to the bottom of, I can see it has moved back up to the top, which I can understand it doing, but I'm not understanding your issue. 2. When your start reading a message with the cursor at the top of the preview pane and start scrolling down with the down arrow key, the page starts to scroll and the cursor starts to go down the page, but not at the same rate. As you continue down the page and the cursor gets to the bottom of the page the movement of the page starts to jump around as the cursor seems to bounce off the bottom and the page seems to scroll between half a line to one line to 2 lines at a time. A good example message is to try reading a bug note, by scrolling down with the spacebar one line at a time. Interesting... I don't see much of an issue here... If I use page up/down, then the scrollbar resizes as I move up and down the page... using the up and down cursor keys, I don't see an issue... But I don't really consider the page up/down to be much of an issue myself either. I would also support the removal of the cursor altogether or at least an option to turn it off. Erm... how would you highlight text for reply? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Okay, I pulled the pin. Now what? Where are you going? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP Question
On Thursday, April 22, 2004, Allie Martin wrote... AM You can either do this manually, or have TB! do it upon exiting AM IMAP folders. For the latter, look at the account properties. SC Oh, if only it were so. I have tried manual and automatic SC Compress/Purge and neither get rid of the message count. It works here but not if it doesn't work for you, I'm not particularly surprised. sigh Might want to try clearing the cache. Right click on the folder, go to properties, and click the clear cache button. It might be that the purge and compress is working just fine, but the folder is cached, and not properly updating. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The only thing standing between me and total happiness is reality pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem With Creating Filters
On Thursday, April 15, 2004, Steve Mulhall wrote... Hi guys BeginFilter Name: Steve Mulhall Active: 1 Source: \\roelof\Inbox Target: \\roelof\Steve Mulhall skipping part of the filter EndFilter Exactly as it should. That's TB 2.04.07 under W98 A possible update on this. Have just installed 2.04.07 on Windows XP Pro and the have the same problem there i.e. right click | specials | create filter, does nothing at all. I'm unable to duplicate this issue, but then I'm on a beta version, and it may already be resolved. A possible clue may be that when I open TB! I get the following error: It seems that something is present in your registry, but it is not enough or corrupted. I've tried un-installing TB! completely (registry entries and all) and the re-installing but that does nothing. Guess I'll be rolling back to the previous version. Whatever that means?! This is related to the bayers plugin apparently. Try removing it, or upgrading the plugin alone, and see if that helps. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/16 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 **NEWS FLASH** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery ** NEWS FLASH ** pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Runtime error on TB! start
On Monday, April 12, 2004, Peter Meyns wrote... I just installed TB! 2.4.07 on my girlfriend's laptop for my holidays and I get this error message on startup: ,- [ Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library ] | Runtime Error! | Program: C:\PROGRAMME\THE BAT!\THEBAT.EXE | | This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an | unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more | information. `- Any idea anyone? I think this is more of an issue with the bayers plugin. TheBat is written in Delphi, and as such, shouldn't be calling MS C++ Runtime files. I think this issue was resolved in the beta versions, but I'm not sure if it's been fixed in any of the public versions yet. Maybe try uninstalling, and reinstalling without the bayers plugin? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/16 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 What happens when you get scared half to death.twice? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists
On Saturday, April 10, 2004, Paul Cartwright wrote... DW But it's now going to both the sender and the list. How do I get DW rid of the sender's address? RO Change it to: RO %To=%To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] RO The first %To macro empties the To: header (see the help) nice, I like that! I just used that for my list: %To=%To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] There is some extra safety that you can put in in the case of folder templates which has been suggested if you _have_ to use them... it's an IF :) I don't remember the exact syntax, but something like this: %IF:%TO=:%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:%- Something like that, I think it's been mentioned in the past for folder templates, if you do a search for Marck's folder templates are evil reply, you can normally find a bunch of suggestions ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/16 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Support your local medical examiner: die strangely! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: behaviour with the cut line mark
On Friday, April 09, 2004, Jurgen Haug wrote... is there a way (in a macro or so) to prevent TB from cutting anything below the cut-line, if that cut-line is not only two - and a space? LIke, I often get mails from people who use as a separator and for whatever reason there's a space at the end of that long line of minuses, too, and the TB jumps on it screaming cut-line! Do you have any special clean up routines in templates or anything? I've noticed this can occur when using the old PGP clean up template, but never took the time to look into it. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/16 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The best way to accelerate a Mac is at -32.2 ft/s. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
On Friday, April 09, 2004, Steve Thomas wrote... Hello tbudl, I'm struggling with IMAP. I've got it working, using local folders for Trash, Outbox, and Sent Mail. What I can't figure out is how to create local folders for anything else. It appears that the only way to do this is to use a common folder. Am I correct? The whole idea of the IMAP protocol is everything is stored on the server side of things, that is, folders, emails, etc. So yes, to create a local folder when all you have is an IMAP account would be to use a common folder. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/16 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 10 Sin 20 goto Hell pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Get Held Mail into Spamcop IMAP account
On Monday, April 05, 2004, dAniel hAhler wrote... I want to have the Held Mail folder in my Spamcop-Account folder list, but I cannot manage to get this done. Creating a new folder with that name fails, because File exists, but the existing one does not show up anywhere. I have to ask the obvious. :) Of course.. :) You could try the down and dirty method... telnet imapserveraddress 143 A01 LOGIN user pass A02 LIST * If the Held Mail folder appears, in that list, make a note of how it is written EXACTLY... then do the following: A03 SUBSCRIBE INBOX.Held Mail If the folder contains special characters (spaces etc) then you'll need double quotes around the name. Then: A04 LOGOUT Then finally reopen TB, and go to IMAP Folder management, and try to Reset the list. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Don't sweat petty things, or pet sweaty things. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Get Held Mail into Spamcop IMAP account
On Monday, April 05, 2004, dAniel hAhler wrote... You could try the down and dirty method... telnet imapserveraddress 143 Wow, that did it. The LIST command said: -8 A02 LIST * * LIST (\HasNoChildren) . INBOX.Held Mail * LIST (\HasNoChildren) . INBOX.Trash * LIST (\HasNoChildren) . INBOX.sent-mail * LIST (\Marked \HasChildren) . INBOX A02 OK LIST completed -8 LIST returns all messages you could possibly subscribe to that have been created, LSUB shows all the subscribed folders. By using LIST, you can see if the folder is there, and created, and you can force a subscription to it yourself. Most IMAP servers won't complain if you attempt to subscribe to a folder that is already subscribed to, so there is no harm there. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 On the other hand, you have different fingers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Easy question
On Wednesday, March 31, 2004, Jeanny House wrote... Today for the first time I saw a message come in that had a check mark on the message flag. What does that mean? That the email is signed (PGP or S/MIME), and the signature is valid. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Suicidal dyslexic jumps behind train - film at 11 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
On Tuesday, March 30, 2004, rich gregory wrote... DH %SETPATTREGEXP='(.*?\n)(.*)'%- DH %REGEXPBLINDMATCH(%COOKIE=c:\sigs.txt)%- DH %WRAPPED(%SUBPATT(1)) DH%SUBPATT(2)%- It works SOMETIMES! Occasionally I get no signature at all with this code. I think the failures only occur in single-line entries, those that do not contain a \n and citation. That would be a correct observation. Because nothing matches part 1 of the query (anything up to a \n character), and as it never matched that, the second part never matches either, because it's everything after a \n character. You might be able to use a ? after the \n to make it 0 or more. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Contraceptives: use 'em on all conceivable occasions. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
On Sunday, March 28, 2004, rich gregory wrote... The line does not wrap and the /n switch is not generating a new line, but appears in the text. It's \n, and without your template, I cannot tell you why it's not going to wrap. %COOKIE doesn't wrap on it's own, you have to use %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=c:\sigs.txt'%- As an example. However, if you put a single \n in, and use the %WRAPPED marco, it'll remove it. To put in a spacer (like between my reply to your message) you have to use \n\n in the file. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I'm sick! I ought to be home in bed with a nurse. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
On Sunday, March 28, 2004, rich gregory wrote... Can I get it to show this way: ~~~ I have always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific. - Lily Tomlin ~~~ Sure, don't use the %WRAPPED macro, and put in the single \n where you want it to wrap ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The Bagginses, they steals our taglines, preciou pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new Bugtracker entries
On Friday, March 26, 2004, dAniel hAhler wrote... Changing From (Name|Address) in Account Properties will set according Reply-To, if empty https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2706 Description: IMHO Reply-To information should not be used if it's the same as the From information. But if you change the From Name/Address in Account Properties the information will be put into Reply-To Name/Address information, if these fields are empty. This one bugs me too, same as when creating an account, it sets the Reply-To field, so if you forget about it, it has the possible effect of exposing your true email address when using the %FROM in templates. feature wishes: (Un)check all (folders) buttons in Message Finder https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2707 Description: I'd like to see two buttons near the Message Finder's folder list: Check all and Uncheck all. What's wrong with right clicking in the folder list? There are a whole bunch of options just like this in there. Attach vCard: popup if not existing, giving possibility to create https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2708 Description: When calling New Message -- Utilities -- Attach Personal vCard there should be dialog popping up, if there does not exist a vCard for the account. This popup should have an Ok and a Create button, which results in creating and editing a new vCard (like in Account -- Properties). I'd have thought it'd just pull the information from what you had entered into the credentials if you hadn't created on already. I've not tested it myself, but certainly a message along the lines of notifying the user they've not created one, and that default values will be used from the account properties. Open with in context menu of attached files https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2710 Description: Would be really good to have open with in the context menu for attached files, where the standard Windows Select Application dialog will come up. I believe this one was on the books at some point, and was going to be tied in with plugins and stuff. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Shin n. device for finding furniture in the dark. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter message from me and to me on TBUDL?
On Wednesday, March 24, 2004, Morgan R. Pugh wrote... MRP I was just wondering how I can filter message a) sent from me to MRP this DL and b) sent to me (as in replying to a question I MRP posted) to this DL? Right a quick update. I have got a from me filtering working with the following [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient Yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender Yes Regular Expressions Checked Shouldn't need the regexp box checked. Should work without it. Actions Set Flagged Attribute Move Message to folder Mailing Lists\TBUDL Now I just need to get to me working :) msg-id :) Or more specifically In-Reply-To field. It contains your domain, you could filter on that. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]recipient yes In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kludgesyes Regular Epxressions Checked Of course, that'll flag any other clara.co.uk users as well that are being replied to. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I feel like a genocidal maniac when emacs asks me if I want to kill 10789 characters. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: confirm receipt/reading confirmation - whats the difference
On Wednesday, March 24, 2004, stefan ketola wrote... yep it's the new boy again. Can anyone please explain the difference between these two features/options - also can one select both (depending on the difference and if this would be desireable) in one go instead of selecting each individually from the drop down menu. Confirm Receipt is an option that is supposed to be answered by the final mail server that reports if the mail was delivered to the mailbox, while confirm read is one the user confirms that they have read it. Unfortunately the Confirm Receipt option is pretty useless for 99% of the mail servers on the internet as they have it disabled by default for some reason... I read about it somewhere, I'll have to dig it up. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Don't sweat petty things, or pet sweaty things. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
On Tuesday, March 23, 2004, rich gregory wrote... From the Help file: COOKIE = filepath [..] Is filepath above supposed to define a directory or a file? If a file, a text file I'd assume (c:\progra~1\theba~1\cookies.txt?) it would contained lines of text to be used along the lines of the THEBAT.TIP file. It can be a full path to a file (including the file), or just the file for a relative file path. Mine for example is set to: %COOKIE='c:\sigs.txt'%- -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If worst comes to worst, you *CAN* turn most things off. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
On Wednesday, March 24, 2004, rich gregory wrote... JA It can be a full path to a file (including the file), or just the JA file for a relative file path. Mine for example is set to: JA %COOKIE='c:\sigs.txt'%- OK, so it is a file. 1) Always a file? Yes 2) Is that file structured as THEBAT.TIP is so that each single line in the text document is referenced as a single item? Each 'cookie' appears on it's own line. If you want the cookie to appear with multiple lines in the email, use \n in the text of the cookie to do the line breaks. 3) Are the cookies always accessed sequentially (line by line) from the file? No, %COOKIE is random. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There's too much blood in my alcoholic system pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My registration
On Monday, March 22, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... I am not using hacked/cracked/modified TB and never have. I am a registered TB user. http://kaishaku.org/tb/ It seems there is a contagious belief to the contrary. You've failed to mention why it seems it isn't registered. Is it giving you any errors? Is it not accepting your key? What version of TB are you running? What version did you buy a key for? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) C code. C code run. Run, code, run ... PLEASE! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Modify received date? (or created date)
On Friday, March 19, 2004, Neil wrote... Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at? The Created date shows as 10 January 2010, 04:41:00 (Mon Feb 11 19:10:43 2002) JA The format is wrong, he is pointing it out. In the email that was JA sent, it is in the format: Ok thanks I understand now. Well I have tried exporting it to a Unix mailbox and correcting the date and importing it again but it still shows 2010. I believe the correct settings are:- Is it the received date, or created date that is displayed wrong? If it is the received date, you might want to check your computer clock ;) Whenever I rebuild my computer, I'm forever setting the date of the month in the year box ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) A paid up computer is, by definition, obsolete. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Modify received date? (or created date)
On Friday, March 19, 2004, Neil wrote... Which if I import as a Unix mailbox still shows as 2010 but if I double click on the file (01.msg) it opens in TB AND with the correct date. Could it be you have the created date showing in the preview, and not the received date? When you did the import, did you remove the old one? How about importing it into a different folder? I'm totally confused now! (by the way this is a received email and my system clock is correct - locked to an internet atomic clock using Tardis) Well that Tardis thing has been known to send people all over the place... ask Dr Who :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Black holes were created when God divided by 0. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Modify received date? (or created date)
On Thursday, March 18, 2004, Neil wrote... PO If I'm not mistaking, the Date: field should be in the format PO like: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:10:48 + Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at? The Created date shows as 10 January 2010, 04:41:00 (Mon Feb 11 19:10:43 2002) The format is wrong, he is pointing it out. In the email that was sent, it is in the format: [short day] [month] [date] [hh:mm:ss] [year] ie: Mon Feb 11 19:10:43 2002 However, it should be in the format: [short day,] [date] [month] [year] [hh:mm:ss] [UTC Offset] ie: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:10:48 + According to the RFCs, the date format on the mail you showed, is incorrect. If you want to get a little more technical, read the RFC 2822, section 3.3. This breaks down to what I pointed out above, showing that the format of the Date: header in the email you are having issues in is wrong. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) LSD: Virtual Reality without all the fancy hardware pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URLs
On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, David Calvarese wrote... DC Is there any way to make TB! open URLS in a new IE window DC instead of reusing an open one? MDP Yes. Shift click on the URL. Helpful. :) But I meant open then that way by default. In Internet Explorer, go to Tools - Internet Options - Advanced. Search through the list of check boxes for one similar to reuse windows for new shortcuts or something to that affect. They keep changing the names on the damn things. See if that helps. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Scrawled on a condom machine: Don't buy this gum, it tastes like rubber! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: DNS info, WAS: Re: TB blacklisted on Lycos?
On Saturday, March 06, 2004, Paul Cartwright wrote... I went back and looked at one of my old emails ( from today) and it shopwed this line: Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-66-56-89-122.atl.client2.attbi.com[66.56.89.122]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id 20040306114058013002epcfe now, I use Mercury32, and the 192 IP is from my router. My ISP is Comcast, so I don't understand where the attbi comes in. Comcast brought out the ATT cable internet a while back. I guess they've not updated DNS for your area. I had nothing in that box-DNS suffix for this connection- so I added comcast.net. Lets see if it makes a difference. It shouldn't really matter. DHCP should be assigning it for you. The DNS suffix line just appends that to the end of all queries that you make requests for on failure. For example if you have it set to sbc.com, and you type in www in your browser, the DNS resolver will do a lookup for www, and fail... then append .sbc.com on the end, and find a match. This can be a little annoying in some places, for example if you have a DNS domain setup with a * in the file for wildcard matches (anybody remember the . You'll end up matching typo's and redirecting them too, like www.mns.com instead of www.msn.com. For me if I were to use the dns suffix of netdork.net and use one of my DNS servers, it'd match my IP, because it'd result in www.mns.com.netdork.net. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Aibohphobia, n. -- the fear of palindromes. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time for a Newsgroup?
On Saturday, February 28, 2004, Allie Martin wrote... I'm wondering if they're properly informed of how that system deals with their concerns of privacy and spamming. Because you can get a spam bot to join a newsgroup, fetch say a months worth of emails, and harvest away, while mailing list archives are a lot harder to work on, having to request many pages usually. Just a thought :) The obfustication is done on the website only I believe, which means the nntp is wide open. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Those who live by the sword... kill those who don't. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
On Friday, February 27, 2004, Greg Strong wrote... MDP The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more logical to me. MDP I'm calling this one 07 for now. Whatever, but Help | About says 2.04.7 and so does Ritlabs at http://www.ritlabs.com/ and http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php. They also announced the last release 2.04.04, but had it listed as 2.04.4 in the help :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If you mixed vodka with orange juice and milk of magnesia, would you get a Philip's Screwdriver? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
On Friday, February 27, 2004, Greg Strong wrote... MDP The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more logical to me. MDP I'm calling this one 07 for now. Whatever, but Help | About says 2.04.7 and so does Ritlabs at http://www.ritlabs.com/ and http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php. They also announced the last release 2.04.04, but had it listed as 2.04.4 in the help :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If you mixed vodka with orange juice and milk of magnesia, would you get a Philip's Screwdriver? message.att Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
On Friday, February 27, 2004, Greg Strong wrote... MDP The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more logical to me. MDP I'm calling this one 07 for now. Whatever, but Help | About says 2.04.7 and so does Ritlabs at http://www.ritlabs.com/ and http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php. They also announced the last release 2.04.04, but had it listed as 2.04.4 in the help :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If you mixed vodka with orange juice and milk of magnesia, would you get a Philip's Screwdriver? message.att Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP settings: what is ROOT folder
On Monday, February 23, 2004, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote... What for and what is this Mail managment-Root folder place of setting TB IMAP account ? From my experience on using such terms, it's the folder you want to set as the parent. You can leave this blank. The matter is that IMAP server (i'm working with) itself have INBOX folder and don't let to create on the SAME level, just subfolders... Sounds like courier :) So i can't understan HOW TB will use that setting ? Depends how you have your server setup. Taking for example shared folders, which are usually put inline (on courier) with the INBOX. This would mean your folder tree would look like: INBOX Sent Outbox Drafts Bob #Shared Notices If you set the Root folder to be INBOX, then the #Shared tree wouldn't appear. This is because in the LIST search that is performed, it specifies a start statement. For example: Before Root folder option: LIST * After Root folder set to INBOX LIST INBOX * This is useful on uw-imap because uw-imap loves to be a pain in the butt, and read every file in the users $HOME directory. To save this occuring, it is suggested you set it to a folder, to store all mail in a folder in a folder, forcing UW to read ONLY in the folder. For example, setting root folder to mail/. Your $HOME directory on the server would then contain a folder mail/ and in there would be your folders (well except INBOX for uw-imap). The list statement then becomes: LIST mail/ * This makes the IMAP server scan ONLY mail/. Saves some work on the server, but not really applicable to courier-imap. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Never test for an error you don't know how to handle. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are releases secret ?
On Friday, February 20, 2004, Edgar van Dijk wrote... The part of someone posting a message when there is a new version was the part I was thinking off. So every one on the list knows it within a couple of days after the release. As it was only released a couple of days ago (maybe 2 days at the most), you'd posted pretty quick ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sheesh! You start havin' fun, and they send the lawyers! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are releases secret ?
On Friday, February 20, 2004, Edgar van Dijk wrote... KS I assumed that a) I would get an e-mail as a registered user, KS and b) there would be a post to this list, but so far neither... KS ... P You don't seem to need it, do you? ;-) But it would be nice if there was a posting on this list. You have to remember this isn't technically run by anybody that is a member of staff at RitLabs. It's run as an independent help source. I guess somebody could post a notice about it when they notice it available, like you did ;) But RitLabs really doesn't have to notify the list, would just be nice. I vaguely remember them having an announcement list a while back, but it never got anything while it was about, and I don't even know if it's still active. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) None of you exist. The sysop types it all in... pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mailto: link craziness
On Sunday, February 01, 2004, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... K When I click a mailto: link on a webpage (IE 6) I get about 30 IE K windows that pop up - and no new message in The Bat. Yes. It's an IE configuration error. Go into Internet Options (Tools | Options in IE) and go to the Programs tab. Go to 'E-mail' and select something other than TB. Click Apply. Now select TB. Click apply. Close and all should be fine. Is this in the FAQs? Comes up from time to time. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Fig Newton: The force required to accelerate a fig 39.37 inches/sec. -- J. Hart pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mail password
On Monday, February 02, 2004, Lynn wrote... L Incorrect from what point of view? It's the correct password .. ? L It's fetching the mail, but only if I put it in *again* ..? I'm sorry, I'm really getting frantic with this thing; I should have said that all I have to do is hit enter on the little box, so it's taking that all right .. and it makes no difference whether the 'update account info' box is checked or not .. Have you tried looking at the account log? It may have some hints as to why it's reporting the password is incorrect. I know a while back that TB popped up the password box on a server error, regardless of the error, so locked mailboxes caused a similar kind of result. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sorcerer parking only. Violators will be toad. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keeping address the same in a reply
On Monday, February 02, 2004, rich gregory wrote... MAU Use this line in your Reply template: MAU %From=%From=%OTOADDR%- RO %From=%OToAddr 2 questions in the differences in the suggested codes above. Why the extra %From in one of them? Because on resets it explicitly, the other doesn't. From what I remember, it is needed to override account settings sometimes. Do I remember correctly that the %- adds a new line character? Nearly, it's the reverse. It prevers a new line character from appearing. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Halloween is *not* Christmas, even though 31 oct = 25 dec pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign the key combo you want to use to fire it off.` Thought I'd give this a try, but unfortunately I cannot find out how to assign a key combo to a quick template... did I miss something obvious? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I can keep a secret, it's the people I tell who can't. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
On Friday, January 30, 2004, Terry wrote... Really nobody who can help me here? [..] Have you tried connecting to SMTPS via telnet and sending a message that way? You may get more information that could point to a problem. The whole point of smtps is so that text isn't sent in plain clear text over the internet, you won't be able to use telnet to connect directly to the server, you'd have to introduce something into the loop... stunnel... which he already says using works fine. Once connected to an SMTP server, The Bat! checks which of the server's RFC-2554-authentication mechanisms is available, and chooses the most secure. Even when Require secure (MD5) authentication is off, if the server does supports it, secure authentication will take place. Hrm... I think there may be a little confusion here... smtps is connecting to an SMTP server using TLS/SSL... the above is used when that method isn't used as there is no point encrypting a password in an already encrypted mechanism. Though there is nothing really stopping you from doing it though I guess. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On the other hand, you have different fingers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
On Friday, January 30, 2004, MAU wrote... Thought I'd give this a try, but unfortunately I cannot find out how to assign a key combo to a quick template... did I miss something obvious? It is not so obvious. Open the editor and then Alt+F12 and then look for Utilities /Insert quick template :) I realized I should have read the rest of the thread, as it appeared everybody else had issues finding it too ;) Thanks. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'The Geek shall inherit the earth.' - Linus 5:5 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
On Friday, January 30, 2004, Oliver Wolfram wrote... The whole point of smtps is so that text isn't sent in plain clear text over the internet, you won't be able to use telnet to connect directly to the server, you'd have to introduce something into the loop... stunnel... which he already says using works fine. I haven't tried with stunnel yet, you're wrong here Jon, mainly because it does work with OE, but maybe it would be helpful just to see exactly what is going on. I think I might be getting a little confused here. Are you using SMTPS, or just SMTP Authentication such as CRAM-MD5? From the subject, I assumed SMTPS, but from what I keep reading in some emails, it seems like just authentication. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) La Quinta. Spanish for Next to Denny's. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Exchange Server
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 11:34, Thomas Fernandez wrote: and if so point to, or supply some kind of a framework of what one has to do to accomplish this? The admin has to allow POP access to the server. Or IMAP, or you're using the latest beta versions. :) I'm personally sticking with IMAP at the moment. -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netdork Inc. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: To, BCC, basics
On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... Telnet to port 25, or whatever you like, and send me a message without a To/CC/BCC header. I want to see what the headers of this message look like. As a note... if you're seeing emails with a BCC header appearing, then the sending client has a bug. The mail server doesn't strip or remove those headers at all, the client shouldn't be putting them in. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) All that glitters has a high refractive index. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More problems - and serious!
On Tuesday, January 27, 2004, Deborah W wrote... M I have seen you have replied to yourself :) and also Roelof has M replied, so a solution seems to be underway. Underway is right...all the lost folders have reappeared, not to mention some I deleted ages back, there's also a new folder for *every single account*, I'm trying to work out how to get rid of the extra folders without losing the mail that should be in the proper accounts! So far I'm having to do the following for *every folder* in TB: delete the extra folder, sending messages to Trash; at this point all the messages in the *account* of the same name *also* disappear, I have to go to Trash move them back into the Inbox for the account, then refilter them into the correct folders. *Sigh* - this is going to take some time. If it occurs again, tell it to delete the folder, leave the files on the computer, but not sending it to the trash. That will stop what you're seeing in regards to moving the messages about. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Do Not Attempt to Traverse a Chasm in Two Leaps pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: upgrade: WARNING!
On Tuesday, January 27, 2004, ken green wrote... M These instructions were an integral part of the beta cycle for v2. If a Bat user purchases an upgrade to the Christmas Edition, THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE BETA LIST to get through the problems of installation? Not entirely the case. The issues relating to this upgrade were much discussed on TBUDL as well. It's just those that like to live on the bleeding edge became experienced in such issues before others, and were able to help out more. You are lucky that you are not trying to get IMAP to work. Do you access e-mail from more than one computer? I'd love to hear how you do that and what's working for you. I'm willing to keep trying to get things working, but the last few hours have seemed like I was going backwards... I use IMAP, but then I'm on of those that lives on the edge. I can give you hope... IMAP is improving greatly. The next release will certainly hold improvements. As far problems with v2 - go back through the mail archives. There have been problems that are certainly not limited to IMAP (column width, missing messages, HTML, etc.) Yes, from what I remember, they introduced a new view modes feature around then.. That is another item that has certainly improved dramatically in the latest betas, so keep your eyes open for the next release. Sure, software can't be perfect. There are going to be bugs. But that doesn't mean those bugs aren't important and shouldn't be addressed. At the same time, it's not fair to focus only on the negative. Yes, v2 appears to be a big improvement over v1. I won't deny that. I was excited about the improvements. Unfortunately, I could only enjoy those improvements for a day and a half before hitting big problems on my desktop. It's like someone stole Christmas... I can honestly understand where you are coming from. When I first installed the early 1.63 betas which was about the time of IMAP, there were problems... they are ironing them out... as they do with all bugs... yes everybody on the beta list was pretty upset at RitLabs for releasing the first 2.x version... but since then, things have made a tremendous improvement. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) It's Ensign Polo. He's thread, Jim! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
On Thursday, January 22, 2004, Peter Chiou wrote... It is the feature of flagging a message. Once a message is flagged, it pops up in a Follow Up folder so you can always go to that folder and follow up on the messages. Once the flag is cleared, it disappears from the Follow Up folder but remains in its native folder. Quite useful for tracking to-do's. Twould be a nice feature to incorporate into TB! I was talking to Allie about Outlook 2003... I have to say it is much improved. There is even a unread mail folder which shows all your unread mail across folders, a bit like TB's ticker ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ummm, trouble with grammar have I? Yes! --Yoda pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
On Thursday, January 22, 2004, Matt Thoene wrote... I was talking to Allie about Outlook 2003... I have to say it is much improved. There is even a unread mail folder which shows all your unread mail across folders, a bit like TB's ticker ;) Hmm...I actually have 2003 installed here in the computer and did take a look at it. I haven't had a chance to mess with it too much, but it doesn't look bad. Have you played with it much Jonathan? And with that, he veers OT :) If it continues after this email, we should go onto TBOT. Yes, I use it for work, no choice... exchange server :) Supports minimizing to the system tray now too. There are a few little things that they put in that I've been after in it for a long time... it's not too bad, though I still use TB primarily. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: uninstalling The Bat!
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 22:15, ken green wrote: Anyone know what to do next when Add/Remove Programs fails? [..] AbacusBat! - Uninstall Error cleaning up AbacusBat! program directory. Uninstall aborted Anyone know what to do next? (besides dump TB and go with Becky...) You'll probably find there is a safety net in the uninstall that says not to delete the folder if there is non-installed items in it. This means that your mail accounts, mail data, personal options etc are safe and protected by the install script. If you go to where you installed TheBat, you should see a few folders left over, and a couple of files. If you don't need them, remove them. However, for the upgrade path, you really didn't need to uninstall the previous version. It is quite safe to just install the 2.x series over the top of the 1.x series, though you should note you'll need a new registration key if you haven't already got one. All the appropriate files are upgraded by TB when it runs that way. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: uninstalling The Bat!
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 23:04, ken green wrote: You'll probably find there is a safety net in the uninstall that says not to delete the folder if there is non-installed items in it. This means that your mail accounts, mail data, personal options etc are safe and protected by the install script. If you go to where you installed TheBat, you should see a few folders left over, and a couple of files. If you don't need them, remove them. If that is the case, the error messages I received didn't even hint at that explanation. No message about protecting anything. Just what I posted. Why something as simple and basic as an uninstall has to be so esoteric and cryptic is just bad usability. Come on... That is certainly odd. I'm sure I'd seen that before and it was the result of the uninstaller protecting the files, but it was a long time ago. Do you know how many registry entries have bat in them? Adobe Acrobat alone consists of about 50-60 entries, not to mention .bat files, etc. I tried searching on RitLabs first but that turned up one entry. The only ones you should worry about is the branch: \HKLM\Software\RIT Or it might be \HKCM\Software\RIT The rest of the registry keys that TB might alter can usually be reset by opening Outlook. God, do I have a headache! Know the feeling ;) What about installing 2.x over 2.x? Should be just fine. I upgrade through the beta cycles just fine. This was my laptop, which I had running first CE, then beta 40. Part of the reason I wanted a clean install was because of the corrupt folder problems I was having (messages not displaying). I know it's a longshot, but I thought a clean install might be nice.. :( I originally had an issue with an imap setting on one of my accounts that I couldn't get unstuck, and ended up reinstalling... so sometimes it is worth it. I thought I might create fresh new IMAP accounts, then copy and paste the message base. Can I do that? Will that invite more problems that trying to do a Restore? Not entirely sure. It seems the IMAP files are created with random names, so you might have to do some playing to get this to work. Also, I could conceivably do a restore on my laptop to 1.62r and convert all accounts to POP, then upgrade. At that point, create my IMAP accounts and just copy messages from the POP folder equivalents... am i going insane...? No, just a little batty ;) IMAP is a server side storage. Which means you shouldn't have to copy anything from your local computer into an IMAP account. Providing the messages have been left on the server by the old IMAP implementation, it should just refetch them correctly. Unless I'm miss-understanding what you're attempting to do. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Explain this macro?
On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, Darrin wrote... MDP Can a recipient of a mid: reference use it to look up a message MDP in their mailbase? Well, I'm not up to speed on how other MDP software works in this area. TB is pretty powerful like that. I MDP think Becky can do it. I don't think many others can. I just tested this out in outlook express. Conclusion: Doesn't work. Just thought I would share that with you. Thanks again for your help What doesn't work? The message ID link? Or the retrieval or the message ID? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I got everything but the part after Now listen closely. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Explain this macro?
On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, Darrin wrote... JA What doesn't work? The message ID link? Or the retrieval or the JA message ID? The message id just shows up as plain text. It would do in Outlook/Outlook Express. Outlook/Outlook Express don't support the feature like TB or Becky does. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To err is human...to really foul up requires the root password. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Regex Macro Help
On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, Patrick G. wrote...
I have the following regex which works fine in RegExTest
^\.{2,}\\s\-{2}.{20}
But when I add it to a macro filter to extract this match to a file
%REGEXPTEXT=^\.{2,}\\s\-{2}.{20}
I get the followng error:
*** Error: \ at end of pattern ***.{2,}\\s\-{2}.{20})
You might want a quick change... you have multiple in there, that
might cause an issue. Try it like this:
%REGEXPTEXT='^\.{2,}\\s\-{2}.{20}'
That way the ' enclose the and make them part of the search instead
of the first and second being matched for each other, and splitting
the regex in a weird way.
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Re: How to eliminate the TB start logo?
On Monday, January 05, 2004, Costas Papadopoulos wrote... How can I eliminate The Bat's start logo with Windows XP? The relevant shortcut to start the program currently is: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /nologo but it doesn't work. I think the /nologo should be inside the shouldn't it? Such as: C:\[..]\thebat.exe /nologo -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Jesus saves sinners and redeems them for cash and valuable prizes. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to eliminate the TB start logo?
On Monday, January 05, 2004, Clive Taylor wrote... I think the /nologo should be inside the shouldn't it? No, outside as: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /nologo Hrm... Couldn't remember which way around, thanks -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) You could be reading the next message by now. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import doesn't work
On Sunday, January 04, 2004, Gerrit Kruijer wrote... Roelof Yes. In the AB do: RoelofMake a selection RoelofFile - Export to - From selection Silly question maybe but what stands AB for? Address book ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Command, n.: Statement presented by a human and accepted by a computer in such a manner as to make the human feel as if he is in control pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repopulating IMAP folder
On Saturday, December 27, 2003, Matt Henkel wrote... The other day I ran into a problem: All IMAP folders that The Bat! was subscribed to were deleted from the server. I'm not positive that it was an error with The Bat! (although there really isn't any other explanation) but I want to repopulate the IMAP folder. You might want to contact your provider to see if there was any issues at their end. I have all the original messages still saved in The Bat! (I did full message synchronization) but synchronization is not copying the messages from The Bat! to the server. It won't let me export the messages, or copy them to other folders. The only thing that it appears to let me do is redirect the messages. I'd really rather not redirect every message, there are many hundred. CTRL-A then redirect them, it'll pop up a multi-select box :) But that's still a bit of work. Syncronization just tells TB how to store related messages in the local cache. You might want to try going to Tools, Export, MSG format, then save a couple of them, then reimport them, see if that works. Is there someway that I can force The Bat! to copy mail from it's records onto the IMAP server? Only from local folders to an IMAP server... ooh... an idea... go into the MAIL\%ACCOUNT%\ (or wherever you have the files) folder, copy the .tbb files to another location, create a common folder, go to Tools, Import, From TBB Files, then select one of those files... see if it pulls the emails back into the common folder. If it does, then repeat for each folder, and then you should be able to copy them onto the server. Not entirely sure how well that'll work, but might be worth a test. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Linux renders ships, NT is rendering ships useless pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: complex search question
On Sunday, December 28, 2003, Stefan Tanurkov wrote... JA Does this change include a search that actually tells you what JA it's doing on IMAP? IMAP support is a separate entity, so waiting for IMAP search results (which is actually displayed as a state of IMAP connection already) will be included separately, but basically - yes, this is going to be improved as well... So for IMAP searching, you currently only search the local cache? Or you have copied the code from POP searching, and then tweaked it to issue the SEARCH command on the IMAP server? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Two silkworms were having a race, but it ended in a tie. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: complex search question
On Thu, 2003-12-25 at 15:43, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: We're planning to implement possibility to perform more specific and complex searches in some of subsequent releases... Does this change include a search that actually tells you what it's doing on IMAP? IMAP searches still report the search has finished, and 0 results. Then if there were matches, they get listed later. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP Account and Sorting office.
On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Peter Zhigulin wrote... How does Sorting office work with IMAP account. Does it download message in any case and puts it in apropriate local folder? Or it gets only headers and puts only shortcut for it in local folder? Or I should use something on server - procmail or something? I've not seen them working entirely correctly, but I can give some information. They don't require anything on the server. They'd use a similar method to the sorting of normal POP style filtering. They'd search the parts that you request, then perform what you want of them. If you tell it to copy/move to another folder, it'd issue a COPY on the server to copy (then a delete for moves) it to that folder. TB is currently lacking any feature to move mail to other accounts (without any kind of notice too), or folders outside of the current account IMAP (such as common folders). From mentions on the beta lists, the filtering system is under the microscope for a revamp, which should include a proper working version for IMAP (we hope). -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
