Backing up in general
HI, For some time, I had been living "dangerously" by not doing proper backups. Thas changed now: I have greatly increased by hard drive size, and also now have a cloud backup solution. Shortly, I will also have an additional local backup. Although, I had occasionally saved all of my Bat files to an external hard drive, this was not something that was regularly scheduled.I thus discovered, that there was no .tbk file on my computer's hard drive. I have fixed that. I just ran my first backup to that file and have scheduled daily backups.Reading through the documentation, about backups, however, it is clear to me that if that daily backup is stored to the "cloud," one is still at risk for losing up to a day's worth of correspondence.While it is true that, in the event of a catastrophic hard drive failure, I could download to a restored hard drive all maill that was received in the previous 24 hours, since that mail will still be on the servers - both the gmail acount mail as well as mail run through the server that handles my private domain name, any sent mail, which is only resident on my hard drive, would be lost. I could set up a routine that always sends mail to myself, such that sent mail is run through the gmail and private domain servers, but I see that is merely clogging up my system and duplicates. Merely backing up the .tbk file to the cloud does not solve the issue of having real time backups of messages generated bewteen the daily backups. Would a better solution be to set my cloud back to do continuous backups and then to include the The Bat! folder and all subfolders as part of the regular backup. That way all the .TBB files, which hold the messages, would also be backed up? Does this make sense, or is there a better solution. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 7.1.18 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need Advice on Backing Up and Reinstalling
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:51:39 + GMT (18-Feb-14, 03:51 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: 2. What files will I need to back up? I would back up the whole TB! mail directory, the whole TB! program directory, and the relevant registry key. But that is probably overkill. I have used the internal backup and restore function in TB! when moving to a new computer, with no problems at all. On the new computer (in this case, after formatting and reinstalling Windows), download the installer and it will ask you whether you want to restore from a backup. Point it to the backup file, and you'll have a clone of your previous TB!, with fodler, filters, settings and of course mails. For all accounts that you backed up. Even your licence will have been backed up and restored. Can't be more convenient. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.6 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Need Advice on Backing Up and Reinstalling
I am currently using The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 on a PC with a Windows 7 operating system. I received an error message this morning saying that my copy of Windows 7 was not a genuine one. It is genuine and came loaded on my laptop from Dell. I called Dell support, and after trying a number of other workarounds, they've decided that my Windows 7 has become corrupted--or at least some files on it have--and I need to have the operating system reinstalled. They will work with me on this, but obviously it means I'm going to have to reinstall all my programs after the operating system is re-done, and that includes The Bat! My questions are three: 1a. Will I be able to reinstall the same version of The Bat? It has given me no problems, and I seem to be reading that people are having problems with version 6. I still have the thebat_pro_4-2-44.msi file from when I originally installed it and I do have my Key Block. 1b. If I have to use a newer version of The Bat! are there any changes I need to know about that will affect my ability to retrieve my mail from the backups? 2. What files will I need to back up? ---My mail directory setting in Preferences lists: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\ I assume this means my mail directory is in C:\Users\MSG\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Janus1 where MSG is my user name and Janus1 is my mail account name. I already back up my Users\MSG directory every night to an online backup site called IBackup. ---In addition, I do an automatic daily backup to a file called C:\TheBatBackups\Batbackup2.tbk This daily backup is set to back up all address books and all accounts. This also is sent every night to the IBackup site. ---Is there anything else I need to back up in order to retrieve all my mail after I reinstall TheBat!? 3. After I reinstall TheBat! I will copy my backed up Users\MSG file onto my computer. Do I also have to restore the .tbk file to The Bat! or will just moving the previous User folder be enough? Thanks for any help. Mike -- Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need Advice on Backing Up and Reinstalling
MG I am currently using The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 on a PC with a Windows 7 operating system. MG I received an error message this morning saying that my copy of MG Windows 7 was not a genuine one. It is genuine and came loaded on my laptop from Dell. MG I called Dell support, and after trying a number of other MG workarounds, they've decided that my Windows 7 has become MG corrupted--or at least some files on it have--and I need to have MG the operating system reinstalled. MG They will work with me on this, but obviously it means I'm going MG to have to reinstall all my programs after the operating system is MG re-done, and that includes The Bat! MG My questions are three: MG 1a. Will I be able to reinstall the same version of The Bat? It MG has given me no problems, and I seem to be reading that people are MG having problems with version 6. I still have the MG thebat_pro_4-2-44.msi file from when I originally installed it and I do have my Key Block. MG 1b. If I have to use a newer version of The Bat! are there any MG changes I need to know about that will affect my ability to MG retrieve my mail from the backups? MG 2. What files will I need to back up? MG ---My mail directory setting in Preferences lists: %APPDATA%\The MG Bat!\ I assume this means my mail directory is in MG C:\Users\MSG\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Janus1 where MSG is my user MG name and Janus1 is my mail account name. I already back up my MG Users\MSG directory every night to an online backup site called IBackup. MG ---In addition, I do an automatic daily backup to a file called MG C:\TheBatBackups\Batbackup2.tbk This daily backup is set to back MG up all address books and all accounts. This also is sent every night to the IBackup site. MG ---Is there anything else I need to back up in order to retrieve MG all my mail after I reinstall TheBat!? MG 3. After I reinstall TheBat! I will copy my backed up Users\MSG MG file onto my computer. Do I also have to restore the .tbk file to MG The Bat! or will just moving the previous User folder be enough? MG Thanks for any help. Let the more knowledgeable chime in but there was a database change with v5 and if you run v5 or later, it is not backwardly compatible Back up your RIT reg key and put it in your mail folder then ARCHIVE it and move it somewhere off the machine, or at least the C:\ drive The Bat's backup can be flakey. I tried it and had about a third of the files unusable and unable to restore them Check your private mail in about 5 minutes for something that may make all this moot :) -- Rick All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man. --Jiddu Krishnamurti Version 6.2.14 (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need Advice on Backing Up and Reinstalling
On Monday, February 17, 2014, 15:21:11, Mike Greenbaum wrote: I called Dell support, and after trying a number of other workarounds, they've decided that my Windows 7 has become corrupted--or at least some files on it have--and I need to have the operating system reinstalled. Have you tried entering the product key from the sticker under the notebook? Usually this works around the problem. 1a. Will I be able to reinstall the same version of The Bat? It has given me no problems, and I seem to be reading that people are having problems with version 6. I still have the thebat_pro_4-2-44.msi file from when I originally installed it and I do have my Key Block. Yes, it should work without problems. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Those who expect the biggest tips provide the worst service. -- Tipper's Law Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Copying and backing up the Address Book
(I am already using TheBat's backup facility, and about a year ago, I had to restore from the backup file.) Now, I am interested in being able to copy or export the Address Book so that I can view it outside of TheBat. This copy/export effort, secondarily, would offer me the possibility of backing up the Address Book separately. Is there any way to do that? Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
Понедельник, 13 мая 2013, 4:56 -04:00 от Leonard S. Berkowitz berkowit...@gmail.com: (I am already using TheBat's backup facility, and about a year ago, I had to restore from the backup file.) Now, I am interested in being able to copy or export the Address Book so that I can view it outside of TheBat. This copy/export effort, secondarily, would offer me the possibility of backing up the Address Book separately. Is there any way to do that? Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html С Уважением, ООО СУПЕРПЛАСТ, Москва Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
On Monday, May 13, 2013, 5:00:15 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Понедельник, 13 мая 2013, 4:56 -04:00 от There was noting in your response! Please respond in English. Thank you. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, May 13, 2013, 6:56:59 PM, you wrote: LSB (I am already using TheBat's backup facility, and about a year ago, I LSB had to restore from the backup file.) LSB Now, I am interested in being able to copy or export the Address Book LSB so that I can view it outside of TheBat. This copy/export effort, LSB secondarily, would offer me the possibility of backing up the Address LSB Book separately. Is there any way to do that? LSB Thanks. In the Address Book - File - Export to - Address List (Plain Text) This produces a .txt file of the address book If you wish to copy only a selection: Select the addresses you want in the usual way with Shift - Mouse left click or Control = Mouse left click Then File - Export to - Export Selection - In the save As box, choose Address Lists (Plain Text) You can choose other formats from the available list. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Afraid of heights? Not me, I'm afraid of widths! Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
On Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:29:23 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: In the Address Book - File - Export to - Address List (Plain Text) This produces a .txt file of the address book If you wish to copy only a selection: Select the addresses you want in the usual way with Shift - Mouse left click or Control = Mouse left click Then File - Export to - Export Selection - In the save As box, choose Address Lists (Plain Text) You can choose other formats from the available list. Thank you Paul Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
On Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:29:23 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: In the Address Book - File - Export to - Address List (Plain Text) This produces a .txt file of the address book If you wish to copy only a selection: Select the addresses you want in the usual way with Shift - Mouse left click or Control = Mouse left click Then File - Export to - Export Selection - In the save As box, choose Address Lists (Plain Text) You can choose other formats from the available list. Now that I know how to perform this export, I see that the resulting list is not in the same order as my address book. (I did a plain text export, not a comma separated version that I can load into Excel and resort.) I suppose that, appearances to the contrary, my address book is not sorted the way it came out in the .txt version. On what field should I resort the Address Book so that the export looks like the Address Book? Thanks -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 1:35:23 AM, you wrote: LSB On Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:29:23 AM, you LSB (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: In the Address Book - File - Export to - Address List (Plain Text) This produces a .txt file of the address book If you wish to copy only a selection: Select the addresses you want in the usual way with Shift - Mouse left click or Control = Mouse left click Then File - Export to - Export Selection - In the save As box, choose Address Lists (Plain Text) You can choose other formats from the available list. LSB Now that I know how to perform this export, I see that the resulting LSB list is not in the same order as my address book. (I did a plain text LSB export, not a comma separated version that I can load into Excel and LSB resort.) LSB I suppose that, appearances to the contrary, my address book is not LSB sorted the way it came out in the .txt version. On what field should I LSB resort the Address Book so that the export looks like the Address LSB Book? LSB Thanks Hopefully the experts will offer a solution. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I'm writing a book. I've got the page numbers done. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
If one is going to take it to a spreadsheet program, why not sort it there? -- Rick I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson v5.3.8.8 (BETA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Backing up the registry entry via batch file
Hello ...listen2reason..., On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 01:15:34 +0100 GMT (15/Nov/10, 7:15 AM +0700 GMT), ...listen2reason... - Musaic.Net wrote: That reminds me is the backup function in The Bat! functioning properly? The last time I used it all I got was errors lMN I run a rather complex TB-setup with several POP'ed accounts and lMN lots of folders. lMN I have used it for years - always Full Backup. In the years I have lMN used TB I have used the Backup-function to roll back and roll out lMN from old to new PCs - with no problems. I haven't done any Partial lMN Backups, though, and can't comment on that. Which TB version are you using? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the registry entry via batch file
Hello Abigail, On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:59:29 -0800 GMT (15/Nov/10, 8:59 AM +0700 GMT), Abigail Marshall wrote: That reminds me is the backup function in The Bat! functioning properly? The last time I used it all I got was errors AM I can do full backups but have problems with the update to existing AM archive feature -- it will generally work for a few backups, but then hang AM --with an error message on cancellation. Once it has hung it won't work AM again -- so basically I need to do a full backup again at that point. Which TB version are you using? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the registry entry via batch file
Hello Rick, On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:38:33 -0500 GMT (15/Nov/10, 4:38 AM +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R Does anyone know the command line to back up the Bat's registry R entry? I may have to move the Bat to another hard drive Format C: scnr -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the registry entry via batch file
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Thomas Fernandez thomas.gm...@gmx.netwrote: Hello Abigail, AM I can do full backups but have problems with the update to existing AM archive feature -- it will generally work for a few backups, but then hang AM --with an error message on cancellation. Once it has hung it won't work AM again -- so basically I need to do a full backup again at that point. Which TB version are you using? I have 4.2.36.4 (home) -Abigail Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Backing up the registry entry via batch file
Which TB version are you using? Currently, it's 4.2.36.4 - my first TB was prior to version 2. I know for sure the backup has not failed on me since version 2.12.00. -- ...listen2reason... - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backing up the registry entry via batch file
Does anyone know the command line to back up the Bat's registry entry? I may have to move the Bat to another hard drive Thanks -- Rick Necrophiliacs need love too! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the registry entry via batch file
Hallo Rick, On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:38:33 -0500GMT (14-11-2010, 22:38 , where I live), you wrote: RG Does anyone know the command line to back up the Bat's registry RG entry? I may have to move the Bat to another hard drive regedit /e c:\test\test.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT Just tested this. Note that I've actually got a test directory on my C: drive. -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person constructs their own bed of nails. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.102 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpZaE264MpSR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the registry entry via batch file
Hello Roelof, Sunday, November 14, 2010, 5:19:45 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Rick, RO On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:38:33 -0500GMT (14-11-2010, 22:38 , where I RO live), you wrote: RG Does anyone know the command line to back up the Bat's registry RG entry? I may have to move the Bat to another hard drive RO regedit /e c:\test\test.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT RO Just tested this. Note that I've actually got a test directory on my RO C: drive. That reminds me is the backup function in The Bat! functioning properly? The last time I used it all I got was errors -- Best regards, Genemailto:ewkea...@triad.rr.com Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Backing up the registry entry via batch file
That reminds me is the backup function in The Bat! functioning properly? The last time I used it all I got was errors I run a rather complex TB-setup with several POP'ed accounts and lots of folders. I have used it for years - always Full Backup. In the years I have used TB I have used the Backup-function to roll back and roll out from old to new PCs - with no problems. I haven't done any Partial Backups, though, and can't comment on that. -- ...listen2reason... - Musaic.Net listen2rea...@musaic.net Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the registry entry via batch file
Hallo Rick, On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:38:33 -0500GMT (14-11-2010, 22:38 , where I live), you wrote: RG Does anyone know the command line to back up the Bat's registry RG entry? I may have to move the Bat to another hard drive regedit /e c:\test\test.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT Just tested this. Note that I've actually got a test directory on my C: drive. Thanks Roelof! :) -- Rick Have you ever wondered if the one-dollar bills in your wallet were ever in a stripper's butt crack? If not, you're wondering now. v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the registry entry via batch file
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Gene ewkea...@triad.rr.com wrote: . That reminds me is the backup function in The Bat! functioning properly? The last time I used it all I got was errors I can do full backups but have problems with the update to existing archive feature -- it will generally work for a few backups, but then hang --with an error message on cancellation. Once it has hung it won't work again -- so basically I need to do a full backup again at that point. -Abigail Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat insists on backing up to a non-existant drive.
Hello, Every day I have automated backup scheduled to go at noon on my lunch break. But it insists on sending the backup to F:\Voyager which doesn't exist. This seems to be a ghost from my past use of Voyager on a memory stick. I had backed that up and restored it to TheBat. Now, I have the following directory specified for the automated backup: C:\Users\Doug\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!\autobackup.tbk But it still gives me an error every time. I think it might be trying to do two backups. Maybe the path listed above is successful, and then it tries to do a different backup to Voyager. Anyway, I looked everywhere, in config and ini files and can't find where this path may be hiding. -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! 4.0.24 on Windows Vista Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing
Hi Chris, Sunday, March 12, 2006, 10:11:53 PM, you wrote: Perhaps, even with this half-baked message, I can offer a solution. Make a sperate copy of The Bat!'s registry entries (HKCU/Software/RIT). Interestingly it appears that restoring a backup does restore the message editor font formats but not the account tree formats. I can accept that a backup should backup data and not user preferences, however the font settings would on the face of it appear to be user preferences and not data! Are there any guidelines about what should be backed up in order to restore things exactly as they were previously? So far we have the: TB backup - which stores data and some user preferences tbuser.def - which stores toolbar changes(?) Registry export - which stores most of the user preferences Is this a complete list or do we need to backup anything else to ensure a total recovery? I ask because I'm going to need to do this process again soon! -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.72.01 (Beta) on Windows XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing
Hi Chris, Sunday, March 12, 2006, 10:11:53 PM, you wrote: Perhaps, even with this half-baked message, I can offer a solution. Make a sperate copy of The Bat!'s registry entries (HKCU/Software/RIT). Well its a little bit late now. Basically I did a backup of TB and then formatted my machine and reinstalled Windows. Having done so I restored TB, which went fine. However whilst the data and some of the settings were preserved most of my settings were not. Now I'm guessing from what you say that they are stored in the registry, however I've also read something about user specific settings being stored in tbuser.def which I also restored. Although tbuser.def seems to have something to do with toolbars. -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.72.01 (Beta) on Windows XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing
Paul Meathrel @ 3/10/2006 7:23:17 AM Backing mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Font settings, pane layout etc...not saved Perhaps, even with this half-baked message, I can offer a solution. Make a sperate copy of The Bat!'s registry entries (HKCU/Software/RIT). -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Legally drunk pgpJNUUVPSQTY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backing
Hi all, Font settings, pane layout etc...not saved -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.71.03 on Windows XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing
Hi Paul, Friday, March 10, 2006, 1:23:17 PM, you wrote: Font settings, pane layout etc...not saved Oops sorry! I sent this accidentally, I put it in the outbox but didn't save it as draft. It's half baked and I will send it to the group once I'm done! -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.71.03 on Windows XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing
Hello Paul, On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:17:33 + GMT (11/03/2006, 15:17 +0700 GMT), Paul Meathrel wrote: PM Oops sorry! I sent this accidentally, I put it in the outbox but didn't save it as draft. You may want to support the wish for a drafts folder: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Cheers, Thomas. The tides are a fight between the Earth and moon. All water tends towards the moon, because there is no water in the moon, and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins in this fight. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 11 Mar 2006, @ @ at 18:49:58 +0700, when Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Paul, On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:17:33 + GMT (11/03/2006, 15:17 +0700 GMT), Paul Meathrel wrote: PM Oops sorry! I sent this accidentally, I put it in the outbox but PM didn't save it as draft. You may want to support the wish for a drafts folder: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Yes, in the case one doesn't know how to use already existing and advanced feature of Outbox, s/he could support a wish for a TB for Dummies. (-: (Those who know though, are aware when they miss to hit Alt+F2 instead Shift+F2 to save message as a draft.) Might be even better to issue two versions of TB: a normal one, and one for those who do not Read (The F...unny) Manuals. g But I guess only one version, of mixed feelings, perceptions and qualities, will be the case, as it already, near-near to be, is. Thus we get: two legs of Grace Jones (from the movie about a new perfume) and one, the left one, of Deni de Vito (the latter one would be the Draft folder, from Drowned Mona), 2 tits of Sharon Stone and one (in the middle) of Dolly Parton, a...fterior of Whoopsy Goldberg (which goes well with Grace's leggies though), the metallic green cucumberoidal start button of Sir Gates (for the CK's enjoyment), the face of Silvester Stallone (from Rambo II), hairstyle of Mrs. Simpson ... Some time ago they called such carbohydrate conglomerates Franken...I forgot the exact name but for the described any name would fit fine. (-: I wish you all Happy March 11th, anyway. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 556 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: We-want-TIGER-back! iQEVAwUBRBLwirSpHvHEUtv8AQPrhAf+KcrlCi8g6swPJ7Rc7Ur0rIWxlb8cQNRl TiFJHACQu1lVPAyuAPVtjU2geXmzVOlTkFSkSx0yBKUPiO7pa4OUBUqz6oWFumz3 3XtMhIxYYFgpP+xZH9/5voeVQ+42kJT5evLHbM1bXbjEBtzSO/oyGqLKvc++OX9T lRJRSTqrmrTY+tj6OCGiGU9GHLCv1WmBtd/UjIxUwvJBLcjAo+Sj5cq5cAQe/BH4 3lo5e3mfxE8yPvKGviPCW7Jcz9u8/Dg0Ux+5KIehRFOAmlJj0LOfiUbVRSUZ03T+ 9AnBt+sKBPJiqJdR72z9mZU1HShbuiGJzeHenM8RehexkXCfM5AM1A== =od5d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing
Hi Thomas, Saturday, March 11, 2006, 11:49:58 AM, you wrote: You may want to support the wish for a drafts folder: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 I have already :) -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.71.03 on Windows XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using bat ch files ·
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:51:32 +0100, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... archives on a CD-RW, after a pretty short while (perhaps 2 or 3 weeks) they will (almost all of them) become unreadable/corrupted, and irrecoverable. Media quality, (direct sun-) light conditions, temperature all play a role. Store them dark and between 10-30 centigrade, your best bet. I don't know *if* it's reasonable, but I tend to write CD-RW only 2x; tended, that is - it's been a while since I used them... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Cory @ 12/08/2005 8:53:49 AM Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files · mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I tend to write CD-RW only 2x It has been explained to me that at lower burn speeds, any errors that occur when burning (some always do) affect small portions of the disk, so there is much less reliance on the reading drive's error correction functionality. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Just once, I wish we would encounter an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets. pgp1SzVEadfYP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using bat ch files ·
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 23 Nov 2005, @ @ at 21:14:40 +0100, when Mica Mijatovic wrote: Just bear in mind that not all versions of pkzip will preserve long file names in XP. (-: This above is done in XP(ee) but with the pkzip v6.0 (www.pkware.com PKZIP(R) 6.00 FAST! Command Translation Utility for Windows). You might substitute it with Arj32 (ARJ Software) too, but the time will be about 6-7 minutes (for the same files), somewhere between pkzip and 7-zip. As to Arj, I have discovered that if I keep such archives on a CD-RW, after a pretty short while (perhaps 2 or 3 weeks) they will (almost all of them) become unreadable/corrupted, and irrecoverable. On ordinary CDs they are okay. I don't know what is reason. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 457 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.3, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ5BRY7SpHvHEUtv8AQM5iAf9FXEWUklg7cFuDt0hFtwtHTukb1QZsSpl uKhJbJo1mtZqAH7G84p35qSau7muUvEutv/ylFv8LMw218B+gGiXKGbu2yJMH3V0 QlEAo9ga1l8TbvKfOM31L289kDrxDsZBj87NNrOf5K+oZSJnLzEBGS2ctpe7HH9j Howh+Lb4JoIMC3NtMoCkJW7CyWBi4XM38qt6OBYWHyARdC+OAfQm2RfAzfmKagy/ diRRTxK6cDZ4Y6A3HoN+yrJlT2wADXigLqnPZqUYJrz4JloY74Rnq/9IDUfMHAxi RZqtd8R6shJtiyp8Zo0zM9B9GyHSaUWF6Do5hxG1QRgpQfIggoH+HA== =/mS1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using bat ch files ·
On 02/12/05, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to Arj, I have discovered that if I keep such archives on a CD-RW, after a pretty short while (perhaps 2 or 3 weeks) they will (almost all of them) become unreadable/corrupted, and irrecoverable. On ordinary CDs they are okay. Cheap media? Bad recorder? Both? German magazine c't has had some great articles on reliability of CD/DVD media. Bottom line: there's no real reliability, especially true for recordable DVDs. I couldn't read most of my Verbatim CD-Rs from 1996 any more in 2003. Roman -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files ·
Hello Mica... On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:51:32 +0100, you wrote: As to Arj, I have discovered that if I keep such archives on a CD-RW, after a pretty short while (perhaps 2 or 3 weeks) they will (almost all of them) become unreadable/corrupted, and irrecoverable. On ordinary CDs they are okay. I don't know what is reason. FYI, I have been using CDRW's for archiving purposes for a few years now and have not had any corruption related events on them. Of course, it all makes sense to me that there are many variables such as CD writer and firmware, BU software, quality of CD media, recording speed, file compression format, other programs in use,etc. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using bat ch files ·
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~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 2 Dec 2005,
@ @ at 12:08:48 -0500, when Roman Katzer wrote:
On 02/12/05, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As to Arj, I have discovered that if I keep such archives on a CD-RW,
after a pretty short while (perhaps 2 or 3 weeks) they will (almost all
of them) become unreadable/corrupted, and irrecoverable.
On ordinary CDs they are okay.
Cheap media? Bad recorder? Both?
German magazine c't has had some great articles on reliability of
CD/DVD media. Bottom line: there's no real reliability, especially
true for recordable DVDs.
I couldn't read most of my Verbatim CD-Rs from 1996 any more in 2003.
I read them all (1997, several dozens) including CD-RWs, except these
Arj files on CD-RWs.
CD-RW = Verbatim DataLifePlus HI-SPEED EPS (not bundled,sealed)
CD-R = Verbatim DataLife Extra Protection Surface (not bundled,sealed)
Writer = LG 52x32x52 GCE-8532B
Generally - lifetime of a CD-R is about 5-6 years, officially.
- lifetime of a CD-RW ... /-: ... I don't know. Should I expect
the same/similar?
Another solution is to do backup on (mobile) HDDs instead. Cheaper,
faster, much more rooms for the same money, and all at one place.
Lifetime ... well, same. In general.
If you have a better suggestion, then please tell. My ears are open.
Hmmm... I have a torch in backpack working on electromagnetic inductor
and a compass... Hmmm... Do you know perhaps if I kept them near to
these CD-RWs? I can't recall... Why then only Arj files...
As to so superior modern technology... Bach's writs endured tens of
years and even centuries, and even being {mis|molest}used for
envelopment of sausages (the fresh ones above all, hence with very
lively chemical activity) and pork (even more lively in this sense, and
we know how hard is to get rid of blood[y] blots)...
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Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files ·
Mica... On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:17:31 +0100, you wrote: Another solution is to do backup on (mobile) HDDs instead. Cheaper, faster, much more rooms for the same money, and all at one place. Lifetime ... well, same. In general. If you have a better suggestion, then please tell. My ears are open. I use and prefer my external hard drive as my primary backup of TB directories and other related important files. It is a combo choice USB/Firewire/SATA drive and very fast compared to CDRW especially SATA...TB files transfered in a blink of an eye! The reason for two backup devices is to protect myself from possible TB backup file corruption or failure. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 22 Nov 2005, @ @ at 15:42:26 +, when MFPA wrote: Could I make it work faster? Or if you keep the Mail folder under TB folder (as it is by default), you need just two commands... /// echoExtracts TB reg. key and flings it into TheBat folder... regedit /e X:\TheBat\tb.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit\The Bat! echo. echoPacks/backs up everything at once (the program and Mail)... pkzip -rPu -whs v:\bkup\thebat.zip x:\TheBat\*.* \\\ - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 447 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.3, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ4TOuLSpHvHEUtv8AQOUeggAit2FjVLekFD2JBiOkLlFxeNK4xX7e0kF ZvtaitCxT54gZ/MGfA1oXzwQSR1BadapLqfVmDq/0txlpyNQdc9rQXi4Nrl4aXI4 DikGySj1w+B/XY5IwtNTGGU9EoZRn1QOSPVrCw4a4aPCB62mgpmnmQF0KO0tfP0a j+bovzjI4BFq2xIOL6xMIrk557dDc0nDi6MXR+kdh52rgQXxMMpoXbsX3NccBs2y EfW1eTtD1Vl7i3qHYBSWXi+N5CKTI/YU3GuWmWBKyySs3hRMjj7lfua7mJ9wdkcD YASieHRdAX/oa3HuEfDqhB0Og7W/3k7AWSb4g5MZWU+BZLuQc3s16g== =sHD7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using bat ch files ·
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 22 Nov 2005, @ @ at 23:33:39 +, when MFPA wrote: Thanks, Mica. You're welcome. If I understand correctly, this is a lot faster by using pkzip instead of 7-zip and also saves a little time by creating a single backup rather than rotating Grandfather,Father, Son backups. Is this correct? The practice approves it. (-: We need just tree (or even two, if the Mail folder is at the default position, as sub-folder of TB folder) commands and we do not need any rotation, because in this command... pkzip -rPu -whs v:\bkup\thebat.zip x:\TheBat\*.* ...the r does the recursive packing (including all sub-directories), P stores paths (of each file) specified and recursed into recurse sub-directories (if you have to unpack e.g. just one file it will be unpacked with its full path so that you will know where a 'Messages.tbb' file is coming from exactly: its account, folder etc.), u updates files (replacing just with newer ones the older ones, and mangling not with unchanged ones), whs includes hidden and system files (so nothing will be omitted if we have such files too; I do have them for instance, giving descriptions to some files/folders, which descriptions then are placed in 'descript.ion' files, which are hidden by default) -- so really everything we need is included just in few bytes of such a command, and nothing is omitted/neglected. Now, such/this approach is faster 1) by itself, and 2) pkzip is faster than 7-zip additionally (for about 4-5 times). Here you have a small comparison (look at the time needed)... /// pkzip ==\ | Yes dear... [05-11-23 14:52:39,11] | X:\pkzip -u -P -r -whs j:\Mail-Z.zip x:\Mail\*.* ... working ... Yes dear... [05-11-23 14:55:52,86] X:\ 7-zip ==\ | Yes dear... [05-11-23 15:13:04,79] | X:\7z u -r -tzip j:\Mail-7.zip Mail\*.* ... working ... Yes dear... [05-11-23 15:23:33,73] X:\ They've been packing this... ==\ | x:\MAIL | Total space occupied: 312.059.354 bytes in 963 file(s), in 390 directories Mail-7.zip 78.757.9317-zip Mail.zip 79.942.910pkzip *** Just bear in mind that not all versions of pkzip will preserve long file names in XP. (-: This above is done in XP(ee) but with the pkzip v6.0 (www.pkware.com PKZIP(R) 6.00 FAST! Command Translation Utility for Windows). You might substitute it with Arj32 (ARJ Software) too, but the time will be about 6-7 minutes (for the same files), somewhere between pkzip and 7-zip. Commands for Arj32 will be then... arj32 a -r -u j:\Mail-Z.arj x:\Mail\*.* ...and for pkzip v6.0... pkzip -u -P -r -whs j:\Mail-Z.zip x:\Mail\*.* - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 448 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.3, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ4TNrbSpHvHEUtv8AQO+CAf/XSur2BUOLQxIocZblUT62+OlqLTwVbC8 7UdrpsmuW5B8lnjnQZ7FP8uxkTm9uWwMDc7vt35vEhEVazIQdDlIh4CK4PkPCyua Oxl3y5GelECUmBQSzakdI/3iDeCuhgw4cO5eLrKCNhNs8MdzazXMMyM1Fy2/dGsI lYqwnqebwOfjY+ntdPWyqzRcZxnTxUeOfThK5Qs2quZJul/EisZMssHCsa7Qy3Um Y8MJ5d4bBww4w+l2B8bzQ+M5C5/voNZbrA1ZL8Wt2mYLoXC4sMgP15bx6qZkp0Ap sl4xVx+Etkm/lniwte5pVATc0AA7P8IeypguuU3/ERb7hNkzW9f15w== =jhGx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files
Hi On Wednesday 23 November 2005 at 8:19:06 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mica Mijatovic wrote: Or if you keep the Mail folder under TB folder (as it is by default), I believe that was once the default but is no longer. IIRC, now the TB! program folder goes by default under C:\Program Files and the TB! mail folder goes under c:\documents and settings\USERNAME -- Best regards, MFPA Is it possible to be a closet claustrophobic? Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files
Hi Having read a couple of previous threads on the subject, I intend to use the following batch files to automate backing up of TB!'s registry entries and mail and program directories. Have I missed anything? Have I included anything I shouldn't? Could I make it work faster? @@@ @Echo on :: @Echo * @Echo * @Echo ** Begin TB Backup Batch File (Name: TBBackup.bat) ** @Echo * @Echo * :: :: Creates rotating Grandfather,Father, Son backups of The Bat! using 7-Zip. :: Path %SystemRoot%;%programfiles%\7-ZIP :: Echo off ::Echo on @Echo * @Echo * @Echo ** Copy Registry Key ** @Echo ** To Program Directory ** @Echo * @Echo * :: cd %SystemRoot% :: regedit /e %programfiles%\The Bat!\TB.REG.txt HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! :: :: @Echo ** @Echo ** @Echo ** Backup Program Directory ** @Echo ** @Echo ** :: cd %programfiles%\7-Zip\ :: 7z u -ms=off d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup\TB_Program_Directory.7z -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 %programfiles%\The Bat!\* -r :: :: @Echo * @Echo * @Echo **Backup Mail Directory** @Echo * @Echo * :: cd %programfiles%\7-Zip\ :: 7z u -ms=off d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup\TB_Mail_Directory.7z -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 %appdata%\The Bat!\* -r :: :: @Echo *** @Echo *** @Echo **Rotate Grandfather, Father, Son** @Echo *** @Echo *** :: cd d:\TheBatBackups\ :: move /y d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup2\TB_Mail_Directory.7z d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup3\ move /y d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup2\TB_Program_Directory.7z d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup3\ :: move /y d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup1\TB_Mail_Directory.7z d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup2 move /y d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup1\TB_Program_Directory.7z d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup2 :: copy /y d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup\TB_Mail_Directory.7z d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup1 copy /y d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup\TB_Program_Directory.7z d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup1 :: :: cd %USERPROFILE% :: @Echo *** @Echo *** @Echo ** End TB Backup Batch File (Name: TBBackup.bat) ** @Echo *** @Echo *** @@@ ::- Batch File TB Shortcut (Name: TBStart.bat) -- :: :: This runs The Bat! then calls the batch file to backup The Bat! :: :: THIS batch file MUST be run from a shortcut that is set to start in The Bat!'s program directory :: otherwise the backup will not wait until you exit TB! :: :: %programfiles%\The Bat!\thebat.exe /FOCUSU=Mike (Using The Bat!) :: Call TBBackup.bat @@@ I find that TBBackup.bat takes about 14 minutes when I have just received a couple of hundred messages in a single Bat! session (over 12 minutes to backup the mail directory and about 50 seconds to copy the backup of the mail directory to d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup1). If I then use TBStart.bat to open The Bat! but I immediately close TB! the 12 minutes to backup the mail directory reduces to about 4 minutes, making a total time to run TBBackup.bat of a little under 6 minutes. If I run TBBackup.bat without starting The Bat! since the backup was last ran, the 12 or 4 minutes reduces to just under 2 minutes, making a total time of about 3 and a half minutes. Copying the backup of the mail directory to d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup1 always takes 45 to 50 seconds. My TB! program directory is 13.4 MB and mail directory is 1.1GB (30k messages spread between about 80 folders and 5 accounts). The program backup is 5.4 MB and the mail backup is 486 MB. Any help / suggestions would be appreciated. -- Best regards, MFPA Zorba the Greek - before he zorbas you Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files
Hi On Tuesday 22 November 2005 at 3:42:26 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], MFPA wrote: I find that TBBackup.bat takes about 14 minutes when I have just received a couple of hundred messages in a single Bat! session (over 12 minutes to backup the mail directory and about 50 seconds to copy the backup of the mail directory to d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup1). I forgot to mention that if the files D:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup\TB_Mail_Directory.7z and D:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup\TB_Program_Directory.7z do not already exist, backing up the mail directory takes well over 20 minutes and the whole process just over half an hour. If I then use TBStart.bat to open The Bat! but I immediately close TB! the 12 minutes to backup the mail directory reduces to about 4 minutes, making a total time to run TBBackup.bat of a little under 6 minutes. If I run TBBackup.bat without starting The Bat! since the backup was last ran, the 12 or 4 minutes reduces to just under 2 minutes, making a total time of about 3 and a half minutes. Copying the backup of the mail directory to d:\TheBatBackups\TBbkup1 always takes 45 to 50 seconds. Even this is much quicker than M$ DOS's COPY function. -- Best regards, MFPA An idealist is a person who helps other people to be prosperous Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files
Hello MFPA, Having read a couple of previous threads on the subject, I intend to use the following batch files to automate backing up of TB!'s registry entries and mail and program directories. Why don't you use Second Copy (http://www.centered.com/) or SyncBack freeware version (http://www.2brightsparks.com/downloads.html) which is as powerful as Second Copy? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using bat ch files ·
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~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 22 Nov 2005,
@ @ at 15:42:26 +, when MFPA wrote:
Have I missed anything?
Have I included anything I shouldn't?
Could I make it work faster?
Try this one, might be you'd like it...
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echo.
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echo@ @\~/ @ @
echo.
echo Watch this now!
echo.
echo ._)~~ Extracting TB's registry key and flinging it into
echoTB folder, Master...
regedit /e X:\TheBat\tb.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit\The Bat!
echo.
echo ._)~~ Packing your TB folder, Master...
pkzip -rPu -whs v:\bkup\thebat.zip x:\TheBat\*.*
echo.
echo ._)~~ Packing your Mail folder, Master...
pkzip -rPuo -whs v:\bkup\mail.zip X:\Mail\*.*
echo.
echo ._)~~ Done, Master! Enjoy the day! (-:
echo.
PAUSENUL
:END
CLS
EXIT
\\\
It finishes in 2-3 minutes (with near to 400 folders in Mail directory +
some additionally separately backed up mail folders I have excluded
here).
You need just the pkzip.exe utility, of some 50 KB, placed
somewhere on the PATH.
Just adjust the addresses/file names, to suit yours, of course.
And you may re{mov|plac}e the mammal bullet, if it annoys you.
(-:
Or simply if you don't want to know what happens at all, just use
this one...
///
@ECHO OFF
echo You don't want to know what happens now...
regedit /e X:\TheBat\tb.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit\The Bat!
pkzip -rPu -whs v:\bkup\thebat.zip x:\TheBat\*.*
pkzip -rPuo -whs v:\bkup\mail.zip X:\Mail\*.*
:END
CLS
EXIT
\\\
...or if you want to annoy someone, then this one...
///
@ECHO OFF
echo You'd like to know what happens now, but you can't... (-;
regedit /e X:\TheBat\tb.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit\The Bat!
pkzip -rPu -whs v:\bkup\thebat.zip x:\TheBat\*.*
pkzip -rPuo -whs v:\bkup\mail.zip X:\Mail\*.*
:END
CLS
EXIT
\\\
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OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium
Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.3, and, for TB sometimes,
Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine...
~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given
in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~
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Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using b atch files ·
Hi
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 at 6:14:36 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mica Mijatovic wrote:
Try this one, might be you'd like it...
///
@ECHO OFF
echo.
echo***^\ /~\ /^***
echo ~( __ _o The Twin Piglets Present! o_ __ )~
echo@ @\~/ @ @
echo.
echo Watch this now!
echo.
echo ._)~~ Extracting TB's registry key and flinging it into
echoTB folder, Master...
regedit /e X:\TheBat\tb.reg
hkey_current_user\software\rit\The Bat!
echo.
echo ._)~~ Packing your TB folder, Master...
pkzip -rPu -whs v:\bkup\thebat.zip x:\TheBat\*.*
echo.
echo ._)~~ Packing your Mail folder, Master...
pkzip -rPuo -whs v:\bkup\mail.zip X:\Mail\*.*
echo.
echo ._)~~ Done, Master! Enjoy the day! (-:
echo.
PAUSENUL
:END
CLS
EXIT
\\\
It finishes in 2-3 minutes (with near to 400 folders in Mail directory +
some additionally separately backed up mail folders I have excluded
here).
You need just the pkzip.exe utility, of some 50 KB, placed
somewhere on the PATH.
Just adjust the addresses/file names, to suit yours, of course.
And you may re{mov|plac}e the mammal bullet, if it annoys you.
(-:
Thanks, Mica.
If I understand correctly, this is a lot faster by using pkzip
instead of 7-zip and also saves a little time by creating a single
backup rather than rotating Grandfather,Father, Son backups.
Is this correct?
--
Best regards,
MFPA
Don't ask me, I'm making this up as I go!
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Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files
On Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 10:42:26, MFPA wrote:
Having read a couple of previous threads on the subject, I intend
to use the following batch files to automate backing up of TB!'s
registry entries and mail and program directories.
I like to include the date in the backup file name and have made a cmd
file for my everyday backups. I use WinZip's command line interface, but
in principle this should work with anything:
--8--snip-
:: backup script for windows registry keys and some files
:: with date in backup filename
:: Build a time (dts) variable
:: Using for/do, pull apart the output of date/t
set parsearg=eol=; tokens=1,2,3* delims=.,
for /F %parsearg% %%i in ('date/t') do set dts=%%k%%j%%i
:: set program paths and folder locations
set winzipcall=%PROGRAMFILES%\WinZip\wzzip
set regeditcall=%SYSTEMROOT%\regedit
set xcopycall=%SYSTEMROOT%\system32\xcopy
set backupdir=E:\backup\automated
set backupfile=%backupdir%\cumulative_%dts%.zip
:: registry backups
%regeditcall% /e %TMP%\thebat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT
%regeditcall% /e %TMP%\putty.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SimonTatham
%regeditcall% /e %TMP%\agent.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Forte
%regeditcall% /e %TMP%\opera.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Opera Software
%regeditcall% /e %TMP%\k9.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\KeirNet\
%regeditcall% /e %TMP%\all_registry.reg
%winzipcall% -a -t -en %backupfile% %TMP%\*.reg
:: Miranda IM
%xcopycall% %APPDATA%\Miranda\roman.dat %TMP%\ /y
%winzipcall% -a -en %backupfile% %TMP%\roman.dat
:: The Bat
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\The Bat!
:: Agent
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -x00*.* -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\Agent\Kawo2
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -x00*.* -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\Agent\Comcast
::%winzipcall% -a -en -r -x00*.* -P %backupfile%
%APPDATA%\Agent\Comcast_Binary
:: Opera
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\Opera\Opera\Opera6.adr
%APPDATA%\Opera\Opera\Opera6.ini %APPDATA%\Opera\Opera\notes.adr
%APPDATA%\Opera\Opera\wand.dat
:: SharpReader
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\SharpReader
:: Skype
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\Skype
:: Putty
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\Putty
:: K9 AntiSpam
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -P %backupfile% %PROGRAMFILES%\K9 AntiSpam
:: PasswordSafe
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\PasswordSafe
:: Total Commander
%winzipcall% -a -en -r -P %backupfile% %APPDATA%\totalcmd
:: Outlook
%winzipcall% -a -en -P %backupfile% %USERPROFILE%\Lokale
Einstellungen\Anwendungsdaten\Microsoft\Outlook\Outlook.pst
:: clean up
del %TMP%\*.reg
:: Usage: wzzip [options] zipfile [EMAIL PROTECTED] [files...] For information
on the
:: zipfile, listfile, and files components, see Using WZZIP. The options are:
::
::
:: -a Add files (default action).
::
:: Related option
::
:: -a+ Remove the archive attribute from each file after adding it to the Zip
file.
:: As WinZip« adds a file during the zipping process, the file's archive
attribute
:: is reset.
::
:: Related options
::
:: -b[drive|path] Use another drive for the temporary Zip file. Since
WZZIP
:: creates a new, temporary Zip file when it updates a file, sufficient space
must
:: be available on the current drive for that file. This option enables you to
use
:: another drive for that purpose when space considerations force the issue.
-c
:: Create or edit existing comments for all the files in the Zip file.
::
:: Related options
::
:: -C Create comments only for files being added that are not already in the
Zip
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::
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:: -d Delete specified file(s) from the Zip file. -ee|x|n|f|s|0 Set the
:: compression level. -ee = enhanced deflate method (requires WinZip 8.1 or
:: higher, WinZip Command Line Support Add-On 1.1 or higher, or a compatible
Zip
:: utility to extract); -ex = maximum; -en = normal; -ef = fast; -es = super
speed;
:: -e0 = no compression -f Freshen: replace files that are already part of
the Zip
:: file and are newer on disk.
::
:: Related option
::
:: -h|-? Show this help file -i[-] Add files whose archive
attribute is set. By
:: default the archive attribute is then removed. Use the optional - suffix
to
:: leave the archive attribute on.
::
:: Related options
::
:: -jhrs Do not store hidden, read only, and system attributes in the
Zip file. (-
:: whs controls whether hidden and system files are added.)
::
:: Related options
::
:: -Jhrs Store hidden, read only, and system attributes in the Zip file
(default).
:: (-whs controls whether hidden and system files are added.)
::
:: Related options
::
:: -k Do not update the Zip file's file date; retain the original date.
::
:: Related option
::
:: -m[f|u] Move files to the Zip file. When the Add
Re: Backing up everything
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Mon, 31 May 2004, at 21:11:36 -0700, @ @ when Michael L. Wilson wrote: Greetings All, What must I backup to backup everything. I need to know because I wish to move The Bat to my laptop and stop using it on my desktop machine. Under everything i understood everything related to The Bat. You need to save MAIL folder (with everything inside, that is mail, account settings etc.), then program folder, where thebat.exe is, and TB registry entry (which is at HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/RIT, when you fire up regedit.exe [what can be done by Start Run regedit Enter, then pointing to the RIT branch and doing Registry Export Registry File... Save, where at Save dialog box you check Selected branch]). I heard that it's possible to do a backup directly from TB (Tools Backup), but had no that great experience and am using a (very simple) batch file for doing that really fast and reliably. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at http://pgp.mit.edu/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAvGf99q62QPd3XuIRAqWYAKCOsT+K0FC576T1hM29eS4wcGr7HgCgmToN za5JTVDum0WFoA9ElOKYb0w= =WMRe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backing up everything
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings All, What must I backup to backup everything. I need to know because I wish to move The Bat to my laptop and stop using it on my desktop machine. - -- Rev. Michael L. Wilson, MBA Philospher Teacher Critic Big Brother is watching - George Orwell (1984) - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.10.03 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQLwB/W2u7N+Qh+ieEQLuYACg/m+1uGXq//eclC1hKDKUXeYfeBwAniIs xddG/2vPWcELH4NM4Yb0XLEt =vais -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up everything
Hello Michael, On Mon, 31 May 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MLW What must I backup to backup everything. I need to know because I MLW wish to move The Bat to my laptop and stop using it on my desktop MLW machine. Well, when I recently moved machines, I did a full backup with TB!s own facility and it worked fine although others would say I was foolhardy. I also had a full Registry backup as my new PC had the same mapping as the old. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.11 RC/1 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up
Hello Darrin, Thursday, January 1, 2004, 11:42:34 AM, you wrote: D Hi, D Im using a trial version of Back up now 3 from www.ntius.com. What D files in TB! would I want to back up so that everything is backed up D the same way as it is by doing the backup within the TB! program D itself Click on Options/Preferences System tab. At the top is the location where your mail is stored. - Quit TB - RAR (or ZIP, or whatever) your complete Mail directory - start Registry Editor, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit and export the complete branch -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backing up
Hi, On Friday at 7:31 AM you wrote: A Click on Options/Preferences System tab. At the top is the location A where your mail is stored. A - Quit TB A - RAR (or ZIP, or whatever) your complete Mail directory A - start Registry Editor, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit and export the A complete branch Thanks for responding :) -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backing up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, January 01, 2004 7:10:16 AM Hi, Im using a trial version of Back up now 3 from www.ntius.com. What files in TB! would I want to back up so that everything is backed up the same way as it is by doing the backup within the TB! program itself Thanks - -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE - --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBP/Q46KjEhiEqmMp2EQKQKgCgo0Jee8/bi9VqkeSvoMPHR2cHnt8AoM9v In1HmnctLy5uS4icbjQUTZeb =laOQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fwd: RE: Backing up the Address Book
Hello Paul, Thursday, February 13, 2003, 2:45:46 AM, you wrote: PC On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, 8:08 PM, you wrote: GC Hello TBUDL, GC I have two computers a Laptop running Windows 98 Second Edition and GC a Desktop running Windows XP. I use the Desktop as a backup for my GC Laptop on which I do most of my work. I run a mailing list which PC have you every tried the synchronization?? as in TOOLS-Synchronize? I haven't actually tried this. Do I need to have both computers networked to use the synchronization facility? At present I save the address book from my laptop to a Zip-disk, and then transfer the files from the zip-disk to the desk top computer. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backing up the Address Book
Hello Allie, Thursday, February 13, 2003, 2:11:46 AM, you wrote: AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- AM Hash: SHA1 AM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], AM Granville Cousins [GC] wrote:' GC I have two computers a Laptop running Windows 98 Second Edition and GC a Desktop running Windows XP. I use the Desktop as a backup for my GC Laptop on which I do most of my work. AM Are they networked together? No my computers are not networked together. Actually this is one of my considerations at present. I was wondering if I should use a wireless network as opposed to a wired network. I actually save the address book from my laptop to a zip-disk, and then transfer it from the disk to my desktop PC. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the Address Book
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Granville Cousins [GC] wrote:'
GC No my computers are not networked together. Actually this is one of my
GC considerations at present. I was wondering if I should use a wireless
GC network as opposed to a wired network.
You could have a look here at these interesting links:
http://www.google.com/search?q=wireless+vs+wired+networkssourceid=operanum=25ie=utf-8oe=utf-8
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Re: Fwd: RE: Backing up the Address Book
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, 5:22 AM, you wrote: GC I haven't actually tried this. Do I need to have both computers GC networked to use the synchronization facility? At present I save the GC address book from my laptop to a Zip-disk, and then transfer the files GC from the zip-disk to the desk top computer. from the BAT HELP INDEX-Synchronize: Mail synchronisation is one way of keeping two separate copies of The Bat! up to date with each other and is part of The Bat!'s Maintenance Centre. Synchronisation is performed in the following three stages. 1). Creation of data file This step creates a map file that describes the current settings and contents of the selected components (Account data, folders, address book, etc.). When another The Bat! maintenance centre reads this file, it can determine which settings and contents it needs to export to give the first copy the correct data required to synchronise it. When you select this option you will be prompted to name a file in which to store the synchronisation data. N.B. When synchronising between The Bat! and SecureBat! you must use the Store external attachments in message bodies option to successfully transfer attachments between the systems. 2). Storing synchronisation data for the second copy This step creates a differences file that a second copy of The Bat! can import to become fully synchronised with the first installation. When you begin this step you will be prompted to first select the Step 1 synchronisation data file for the destination system to which you want to export the data. You will then be prompted to select or name a file in which the backup data will be stored for submission to the remote installation. 3). Import of synchronisation data from the first copy. This step reads a file created by another installation of The Bat! in step 2 and imports the contents. You will be prompted to select a synchronisation backup file (level 2) to use for this operation. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: RE: Backing up the Address Book
Hello TBUDL, I have two computers a Laptop running Windows 98 Second Edition and a Desktop running Windows XP. I use the Desktop as a backup for my Laptop on which I do most of my work. I run a mailing list which frequently alters according to the email addresses which change or with the addition of newly acquired ones. Although I try to keep the address books on both computers identical, this doesn't occur for long. I receive the majority of the new email addresses on my laptop computer and then need to transfer over the address book in order to update the address on the Desktop. Can you suggest the best and safest way for me to do this. Up until now I have been deleting the address book file from the Bat! mail folder on my Desktop, and pasting in the updated address book file from the Laptop. -- Love and Light, Granville mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up the Address Book
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Granville Cousins [GC] wrote:'
GC I have two computers a Laptop running Windows 98 Second Edition and
GC a Desktop running Windows XP. I use the Desktop as a backup for my
GC Laptop on which I do most of my work.
Are they networked together?
GC I run a mailing list which frequently alters according to the email
GC addresses which change or with the addition of newly acquired ones.
GC Although I try to keep the address books on both computers
GC identical, this doesn't occur for long. I receive the majority of
GC the new email addresses on my laptop computer and then need to
GC transfer over the address book in order to update the address on the
GC Desktop. Can you suggest the best and safest way for me to do this.
GC Up until now I have been deleting the address book file from the
GC Bat! mail folder on my Desktop, and pasting in the updated address
GC book file from the Laptop.
If the machines are networked together then you could move the
address book to a common location (on the desktop machine) that both
installations of TB! could use.
If not, then there's no easier way that I can think of, to do it
than the way you currently are.
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Re: Fwd: RE: Backing up the Address Book
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, 8:08 PM, you wrote: GC Hello TBUDL, GC I have two computers a Laptop running Windows 98 Second Edition and GC a Desktop running Windows XP. I use the Desktop as a backup for my GC Laptop on which I do most of my work. I run a mailing list which when you change one, why not just email the new addressbook to the other computer?? have you every tried the synchronization?? as in TOOLS-Synchronize? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Backing up the Address Book
Hello TBUDL, I have two computers a Laptop running Windows 98 Second Edition and a Desktop running Windows XP. I use the Desktop as a backup for my Laptop on which I do most of my work. I run a mailing list which frequently alters according to the email addresses which change or with the addition of newly acquired ones. Although I try to keep the address books on both computers identical, this doesn't occur for long. I receive the majority of the new email addresses on my laptop computer and then need to transfer over the address book in order to update the address on the Desktop. Can you suggest the best and safest way for me to do this. Up until now I have been deleting the address book file from the Bat! mail folder on my Desktop, and pasting in the updated address book file from the Laptop. -- Love and Light, Granville mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backing up folders
Can someone give me some advice about backing up folders. I've tried going thru the Tools-Backup but I aborted out of it since it looks like it is going to backup everything. I just want to archive a few folders containing old messages I might not need to reference and in this way free up some disk space. Is there any option for selective backup? Is it safe to backup the corresponding Windows folders or do I run the risk of not being able to view the messages again? -- Best regards, Lawrence mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up folders
Hello Lawrence, On Saturday, 14. December 2002 at 10:05:59 [GMT -0600] you wrote: Can someone give me some advice about backing up folders. Use the Freeware program Backup TheBat. You can safe/backup folders, particular emails and so on. Later you can also import that backups again with TB: http://www.thebat.macasoft.hu/letoltes_backupthebat_e.html -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: The Bat!1.62 Christmas Edition | Windows XP PGP: 6.58 ckt Build 8 - Key 0xBB9237A9 ICQ: 121117424 (hardly ever online) HP: http://www.thebat.int.tc/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up folders
Hallo Lawrence, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:05:59 -0600GMT (14-12-02, 17:05 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: LJ Is it safe to backup the corresponding Windows folders Yes. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backing up address book
Hello Melissa, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 1:38:53 AM, you wrote: MR - From the Tools menu, select Backup, then choose Address MR Books The Choose button will allow you to choose which address MR book(s) you wish to back up. MR Melissa DOH !!!missed it completely. Thanks -- Jimmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up address book
Hallo Granville, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:52:24 +GMT (4-12-02, 4:52 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: Any easy way to back up the address book without exporting to a file? MR - From the Tools menu, select Backup, then choose Address GC I have done this but the file saves as a TBX format. When I try to GC open it I get an Edit Mail Message window with files in the left hand GC pane. When I click on any of the files I just get another Mail Window. GC I think I need to save the Address Book in Csv format. Is this GC correct? What do you want to achieve with your 'backup'? If you want to restore it into TB, Melissa's suggestion is excellent, if you'd like something else, you need to explain your wishes. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backing up address book
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 4:49:36 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Granville, RO On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:52:24 +GMT (4-12-02, 4:52 +0100GMT, where I RO live), you wrote: Any easy way to back up the address book without exporting to a file? MR - From the Tools menu, select Backup, then choose Address GC I have done this but the file saves as a TBX format. When I try to GC open it I get an Edit Mail Message window with files in the left hand GC pane. When I click on any of the files I just get another Mail Window. GC I think I need to save the Address Book in Csv format. Is this GC correct? RO What do you want to achieve with your 'backup'? If you want to restore RO it into TB, Melissa's suggestion is excellent, if you'd like something RO else, you need to explain your wishes. I just want a secure copy of my address book that I could even print out. I couldn't understand why I can't open the saved copy and check out the displayed addresses. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up address book
Hallo Granville, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:52:41 +GMT (5-12-02, 0:52 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: GC I just want a secure copy of my address book that I could even GC print out. I couldn't understand why I can't open the saved copy GC and check out the displayed addresses. You can print out lists from your address book, as it is now. But a readable backup would be an export to csv, which you can read and edit in Excel for instance. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backing up address book
Hello Roelof, Thursday, December 5, 2002, 12:28:45 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Granville, RO On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:52:41 +GMT (5-12-02, 0:52 +0100GMT, where I RO live), you wrote: GC I just want a secure copy of my address book that I could even GC print out. I couldn't understand why I can't open the saved copy GC and check out the displayed addresses. RO You can print out lists from your address book, as it is now. But a RO readable backup would be an export to csv, which you can read and edit RO in Excel for instance. Thanks you have been a great help. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backing up address book
Hello Batters, Any easy way to back up the address book without exporting to a file? -- Best regards, Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backing up address book
Hello Melissa, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 1:38:53 AM, you wrote: MR -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MR Hash: SHA1 MR On Tuesday, December 03, 2002, at 5:21:44 PM PST, Jim Lanyon wrote: Any easy way to back up the address book without exporting to a file? MR - From the Tools menu, select Backup, then choose Address MR Books The Choose button will allow you to choose which address MR book(s) you wish to back up. MR Melissa I have done this but the file saves as a TBX format. When I try to open it I get an Edit Mail Message window with files in the left hand pane. When I click on any of the files I just get another Mail Window. I think I need to save the Address Book in Csv format. Is this correct? -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up WAB
Hallo Granville, On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:04:28 -0800GMT (2-12-02, 15:04 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: GC What is the best way of backing up The Bat! with regard to email GC messages and the address book? Depends on your needs, but the backup function is rather straightforward: Tools - Backup GC Also how do I import my address book from Outlook Express into my GC Bat! address book. Can I do this without double entering contacts GC if their address is already in my Bat! address book? Select the entries you want to transfer in OE and export them to vCard, one at a time, afterwards import them into TB. GC What is LDIF format? LDAP Data Interchange Format, for more info see: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2849.txt, I found this link by googling what is ldif (that was including the quotation marks) BTW Your signature delimiter doesn't seem to work. It ought to consist of dash, dash, space, enter. Probably yours misses the space. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up WAB
Hello , -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, December 02, 2002, at 4:32:16 AM PST, Granville Cousins wrote: What is the best way of backing up The Bat! with regard to email messages and the address book? Tools/Backup Also how do I import my address book from Outlook Express into my Bat! address book. Get wab2ldif.exe here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/ That utility should help you import your OE address book into TB! Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE96uZijVbXUvsE8ukRAv02AKCFrNRokkgoTH3lFYCRGG++PPR5mwCgiFXW ZXc0B2/xy6x6M9yKpkj1yDo= =cB52 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Thanks Melissa, I'll give this a try. -- Love and Light, Granville mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up WAB
Hello Jim, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 10:27:09 AM, you wrote: JL Hello Melissa, JL Sunday, December 1, 2002, 6:07:51 PM, you wrote: MR I'm not sure if this is still necessary with newer versions of TB!, MR but when I got my mother to switch from OE to TB!, I found a little MR utility called wab2ldif.exe JL Thanks very much. I searched for and found the file. It worked JL perfectly... JL I owe you a beer Hello tbudl, What is the best way of backing up The Bat! with regard to email messages and the address book? Also how do I import my address book from Outlook Express into my Bat! address book. Can I do this without double entering contacts if their address is already in my Bat! address book? What is LDIF format? Thanks. -- Love and Light, Granville mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up folder settings
Hallo Joseph, On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:38:26 -0600GMT (11-11-02, 6:38 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: JN There's an option in Tools/Backup to backup folders with messages. JN There does not, however, seem to be an option to backup the folder JN tree structure without the individual message files. Is that correct? JN I don't want to backup the messages, just the skeleton in case I need JN to restore it after a problem. Just copy the account.flx file. That contains the folder structure (including folder templates and identities) of the respective account. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backing up folder settings
There's an option in Tools/Backup to backup folders with messages. There does not, however, seem to be an option to backup the folder tree structure without the individual message files. Is that correct? I don't want to backup the messages, just the skeleton in case I need to restore it after a problem. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up
Hi Peter, On Wed, 15 May 2002 21:31:12 -0700, you wrote: I rebuild my machine about once a quarter and that's exactly what I do everytime. The partition where my mail folder sits doesn't get touched so I just recreate the folders once I've reinstalled TB! and point it to the same directory. Just make sure that the account names you use are identical to what they were before you rebuilt. HTH. Also make sure you backup your registry keys if you don't have them written down in a safe place. ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Backing up
Replying to your message of Thursday, May 16, 2002, 5:27:03 AM: Commenting on both posts here: When I reinstall, does The Bat! need to be installed or can I just create a folder and put the .exe in it? Backing up registry keys, I haven't registered this program yet, is that still necessary? -- Pete Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:07:37 AM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60k Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Backing up
On Thursday, May 16, 2002, 16:11, Pete Milne wrote: Backing up registry keys, I haven't registered this program yet, is that still necessary? A lot of your settings are stored in the registry keys. It is not necessary to backup the reg keys but you will lose some settings. However, all your messages will be saved even if you don't backup the reg keys. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.txt Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Backing up
On Thursday, May 16, 2002, 16:25, Pete Milne wrote: Got it! So I just go to the registry and make a copy of The Bat! folder and then put it in when I rebuild? If you will reinstall the same OS - yes. Otherwise I don't know, someone else might be able to help you on this. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.txt Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Backing up
Replying to your message of Thursday, May 16, 2002, 8:18:00 AM: Got it! So I just go to the registry and make a copy of The Bat! folder and then put it in when I rebuild? -- Pete Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:24:26 AM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60k Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Backing up
Replying to your message of Thursday, May 16, 2002, 8:44:26 AM: MDP Simpler still .. use the built in backup facility, which will backup MDP all of the configuration data and account information ready to restore MDP from a single file... Ok, I do this now and again but wasn't sure to what extent it backed things up. I assumed mail and address book but wasn't sure of settings, templates, filters, yada, yada.. -- Pete Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:52:46 AM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60k Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Backing up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pete, @16 May 2002, 08:25:14 -0600 (15:25 UK time) Pete Milne wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Got it! So I just go to the registry and make a copy of The Bat! folder and then put it in when I rebuild? Simpler still .. use the built in backup facility, which will backup all of the configuration data and account information ready to restore from a single file... - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60k-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE848XMOeQkq5KdzaARAq8IAKCOIR7XK9oKeYrc4pD14kUbNKnMKwCguVU+ HQ0KRz1cHyZe5grlywYu2Jo= =vnZt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: Backing up
Yup. All the global settings - registry, password, and all. That's what saved me when I moved to a new computer and OS. Backup everything, save the file somewhere, restore the file onto the new configuration, and I'm up and running again. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, May 16, 2002, 7:53:31 AM, you wrote: PM Replying to your message of Thursday, May 16, 2002, 8:44:26 AM: MDP Simpler still .. use the built in backup facility, which will backup MDP all of the configuration data and account information ready to restore MDP from a single file... PM Ok, I do this now and again but wasn't sure to what extent it backed things PM up. I assumed mail and address book but wasn't sure of settings, PM templates, filters, yada, yada.. PM -- PM Pete Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Backing up
I am going to take advantage of that special semi annual Microsoft feature of rebuilding my machine. What must I do to correctly backup all my mail, data, addresses, etc for this. My mail folder is on a different partition than my OS. I would assume I have to do nothing but reinstall The Bat! and then point it toward my mail folder. Any helpful hints that I should know about? - Pete 9:40:32 PM - Ask about eScan Content-Security and Anti-Virus Software. We will meet all of your Anti-Virus needs. www.milneweb.com Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Backing up
Hello Pete, Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 8:43:16 PM, you wrote: PM I would assume I have to do nothing PM but reinstall The Bat! and then point it toward my mail folder. -- I rebuild my machine about once a quarter and that's exactly what I do everytime. The partition where my mail folder sits doesn't get touched so I just recreate the folders once I've reinstalled TB! and point it to the same directory. Just make sure that the account names you use are identical to what they were before you rebuilt. HTH. -- Best regards, Peter Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Importing and backing up mail
I think this may have been lost under another thread, would appreciate a reply if available. I am also checking on my just-changed subscription address to see if this posts. Second I'd wait a few day, maybe some really few weeks, for 1.54 becoming released. 1.54 is able to import OE6 message base, although I don't have any clue how the performance is when importing 3G. Thank you, Peter. OE mail is compressed, unfortunately is 3 gig. I will wait for the new release. Will there be an announcement here? Along the same line, I am backing up TB, but thought I had seen something that might indicate possible problems in the event a restore was necessary, so I am also using a copy/paste operation on the Mail folder inside TB and burning that copy to a CD for use in any CD-ROM. While I realize I can read the mail (headers and all!) on that CD, am I safe with the TB backup for restoring, or, for that matter, can the entire Mail folder be restored if there is (please NOT) a crash? Elaine Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backing up TB!
Hello, I'm backing up important files on my computer every night, among those TB!'s mail catalog. Earlier I was only interested in saving my mails, but now, after I read about backing up TB! here in TBUDL, I would like to save all my settings as well. My question is, what files are necessary to back up. I do not consider thebat.exe as necessary since I could easy get that one back, but of course mail\*.* should be backed. I know the register contains info under HKCU\Software\RIT so I'm saving that as well. But what else? In short, where do TB! store information that I could not recreate by doing a reinstallation? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Backing up?
Hello Thomas, Thursday, June 21, 2001, 5:35:10 AM, you wrote: RL Do I just need to copy across the entire C:\Program Files\The Bat! RL directory and contents and copy these back? That one and the registry key HKCU / Software / RIT and you're done. Without that registry key, you loose a lot of your settings, as well as your registration. So, if you didn't back up the registry key but have a hard copy of your TB registration, all you need to do is type in the registration by hand (Help / Registration) and adjust settings (such as windows sizes etc). Ah ha, that sounds like the situation that happened when I first backed up The Bat some while back, most of the settings where intact and some where missing. Thanks for the help. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backing up?
Hello Tbudl, Apologies if this has been asked before, but I haven't had the time to follow this list too closely in recent months. As I get mailing list mails from 5 ISP accounts and around 400 mails a day from 27 lists. I have a lot of mail that I need to refer back to, which isn't a problem as the Bat seems to handle folders with several hundreds sometimes several thousand, in each with ease. A few weeks ago I had a bit of a hard disk disaster and lost the lot, so I had to install and configure everything from scratch and of course I lost all of the mails. Now that I have a 40gig secondary backup drive I need to know the best way and what parts I should copy across and how to quickly restore things should a similar situation arise in the future. Do I just need to copy across the entire C:\Program Files\The Bat! directory and contents and copy these back? TIA. -- Best regards, Richard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backing up?
Hi Richard, On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:53:58 +0100GMT (21/06/2001, 07:53 +0800GMT), Richard Lane wrote: RL Do I just need to copy across the entire C:\Program Files\The Bat! RL directory and contents and copy these back? That one and the registry key HKCU / Software / RIT and you're done. Without that registry key, you loose a lot of your settings, as well as your registration. So, if you didn't back up the registry key but have a hard copy of your TB registration, all you need to do is type in the registration by hand (Help / Registration) and adjust settings (such as windows sizes etc). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backing up messages and settings before a reformat and uograde
Hello TBUDL, I apologise for bringing this up again as I guess it must get covered frequently. Could someone please run through the necessary files and steps I need to safeguard so I can restore my saved emails and Bat settings. I am going to wipe the HD and upgrade to ME from 98, and I would like to be able to save the work I have already done with TB!. Thanks for the help. -- Best regards, Russ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Backing up messages and settings before a reformat and uograde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, May 31, 2001, at 12:18:36 PM PDT, Nick Andriash wrote: NA On Thursday May 31, 2001 at 4:26:57 AM, Russ Moore wrote: I am going to wipe the HD and upgrade to ME NA I think that would be a mistake. If I were going to upgrade anything NA from Win 98, I would certainly choose Win 2K before ME. Hello Nick, While Win2K may well be a good possibility for several people, the horror stories about WinME are largely undeserved. WinME is just very picky about having updated drivers, and in some cases, it requires software that is written with specific WinME support. I upgraded to WinME from Win98SE, and it was the best thing I could have done for this machine. It's *far more stable* than Win98SE ever was - and Win98SE was a factory installation on this machine. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_2Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.77 Comment: You know you're out of your league when... Comment: you write Please Turn Over on the bottom of your kayak. iD8DBQE7Fp8ORg4Hd5oov/oRAkGkAKCU4PPlBKjhLHM+pC7KGF0dHfnCCgCglzJE YfdflXqmHTCLzqomolntjzI= =CxwV -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Backing up messages and settings before a reformat and uograde
On Thursday, May 31, 2001, 2:18:36 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: I am going to wipe the HD and upgrade to ME I think that would be a mistake. I agree. I don't mind ME which I'm running on this machine, but unless you are needing to do a reinstallation of 98 for some reason I don't see any gain which would make an upgrade worthwhile. I use 3 different 98-SE machines, and have never had any temptation to take them to ME. I once explored the idea of upgrading one to 2000, but decided against that too. Too many unknown possible hazards. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Backing up messages and settings before a reformat and uograde
NA In any case, you can simply save your C:\Program Files\The Bat Folder as NA is, or use the Tools\Backup feature of TB!. I do not believe this is correct as the registry settings will not be saved. You can export the registry settings for the bat. -- Best regards, Igbarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A backing-up story
On 24-02-2001 at 12:54, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: 24 Feb 2001 14:11:13 +1000, K graced us with these comments: K Well during that time I sorted out a K neat backup method that I still use in favor of the TB! Backup K Function, here's what I do: --procedure snipped-- K It works for me, I like it. My problem with it is the lack of automation and this is why I don't use TB!'s backup facility. I don't think of backing up but it just happens. My active accounts and registry key are backed up every morning at 4am and my archive account backed up weekly by using the system scheduler, WinRAR and two batch files. RAR archives are created and placed on a 250MB zip disk. I fully agree. I use a similar procedure (incremental backups via a batch file that is calling arj, in combination with a scheduler that starts the whole thing at 7 a.m.), but I have added one important step: encrypting the backup. I might be a tad paranoid - the "Church" of Scientology is after me, and in such cases one can't be too cautious - but I really believe that all private communications should be stored encrypted. I also use a PGP-disk as my mail repository. - K - -- Did you ever read poor old George Orwell's 1984? Yes, yes, that's wonderful. That would be - could be the palest imagined shadow of what a world would be like under the rule of the secret use of Scientology with no remedy in existence. - Scientology's founder L. Ron Hubbard, PDC tape 20 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A backing-up story
Hello Karin, encrypting the backup. How do you do that exactly? Greetings, Alexander -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A backing-up story
On 24-02-2001 at 17:29, Alexander Levenetz kindly wrote: encrypting the backup. How do you do that exactly? Here's my batch file for incremental backups encryption: @echo off set path=c:\utils\backup;e:\backups\h-drive set tz=met-1dst c:\utils\arj\arj32 a -r -hm0 -i2 -h# -jm -b1 -x!c:\utils\backup\h-exclude.txt e:\backups\h-drive\h- h:\*.* c:\utils\backup\pgp23 -e -w e:\backups\h-drive\h-*.arj Karin Spaink I'll break up the last two lines: c:\utils\arj\arj32 That's where my arj32.exe resides; a -r -hm0 -i2 -h# -jm -b1 -x!c:\utils\backup\h-exclude.txt The switches for arj.exe: a = archive -r= use recursive directories -hm0 = to manage huge file lists -i2 = provides a combined percentage and bar progress display -h# = append current date/time string -jm = select high size reduction -b1 = backup changed files and reset archive bits -x[x] = exclude the files named in [x] e:\backups\h-drive\h- h:\*.* Bsckup target and backup source This results in files in the format H-010223.arj (for 23 Feb 2001). In the last line, this file is encrypted (conventional encryption), using the key stored in the backup directory: c:\utils\backup\pgp23 -e -w e:\backups\h-drive\h-*.arj Karin Spaink -e = encrypt file -w = wipe original That's it. It's executed in well under five minutes, using a P600. - K - -- If babies are innocent, it is not for lack of will to harm, but for lack of strength. - St Augustine of Hippo, Confessions -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
