from:"Rajaram Krishnamurthy"

CULTURAL QA 06202407A



Q1 Why did Brahmins not allow Shudra to study for 2,000 years?

KR What is the role of Brahmins here, who were never in power?! How
these thoughts came to you?  Wasting and repeating second time.



Q2 As a North Indian do you feel uncomfortable studying in a
South Indian medical college in any way? Is it at least worth it if you
like the education over there?

KRFor a student staying off, mingling in different sect, Region
and language -will be a good or bad experience; but will help in service
when one joins in another state.



Q3 What are the new medical breakthroughs or new technologies
that is changing old medical procedures?

KR Yes sir Even animal censors are adopted’ but What Dr TINY says, may
mislead also. Anyway, progress is wanted. Normally adopted are:

1. Imaging Techniques

Mammography

Use: Primarily for breast cancer detection.

How it works: Uses low-dose X-rays to create detailed images of the breast.

CT Scans (Computed Tomography)

Use: Detects tumors in various parts of the body such as lungs, liver, and
abdomen.

How it works: Combines multiple X-ray images to create a detailed
cross-sectional view of the body.

MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging)

Use: Useful for detecting cancers in the brain, spinal cord, and other soft
tissues.

How it works: Uses powerful magnets and radio waves to produce detailed
images of organs and tissues.

Ultrasound

Use: Commonly used for detecting cancers in the liver, kidneys, pancreas,
and reproductive organs.

How it works: Uses high-frequency sound waves to produce images of
structures inside the body.

PET Scans (Positron Emission Tomography)

Use: Often used to detect cancer metastasis.

How it works: Uses a radioactive sugar injected into the body; cancer cells
absorb more sugar and show up on the scan.

2. Biopsy

Use: Confirming cancer diagnosis.

How it works: Involves taking a small sample of tissue from the suspected
area for examination under a microscope.

3. Endoscopy

Use: Detects cancers in the gastrointestinal tract, lungs, and other organs.

How it works: Uses a flexible tube with a camera (endoscope) to view the
inside of body cavities and organs.

4. Blood Tests

Complete Blood Count (CBC)

Use: Can detect blood cancers such as leukemia.

How it works: Measures different components of the blood, such as red and
white blood cells.

Tumor Markers

Use: Detects specific proteins or markers that are elevated in certain
cancers.

How it works: Blood is tested for substances produced by cancer cells or by
the body in response to cancer.

Liquid Biopsy

Use: Detects genetic mutations and other cancer-related changes in the
blood.

How it works: Analyzes circulating tumor DNA (ctDNA) in the blood.

5. Genetic Testing

Use: Identifies inherited genetic mutations that increase the risk of
certain cancers.

How it works: Involves analyzing DNA from blood or saliva samples to detect
genetic predispositions.

6. Pap Smear and HPV Testing

Use: Cervical cancer screening.

How it works: Involves collecting cells from the cervix to look for
abnormalities and human papillomavirus (HPV) infection.

7. Colonoscopy

Use: Screening for colorectal cancer.

How it works: A long, flexible tube with a camera is used to view the
entire colon and rectum.

8. Low-Dose CT for Lung Cancer

Use: Screening for lung cancer in high-risk individuals, such as heavy
smokers.

How it works: Uses a low dose of radiation to create detailed images of the
lungs.

9. Dermatoscopy

Use: Detecting skin cancers such as melanoma.

How it works: A special magnifying tool (dermatoscope) is used to examine
skin lesions.

Modern cancer detection methods include a range of imaging techniques,
biopsies, blood tests, genetic testing, and specialized screening tools.
These methods allow for early detection and accurate diagnosis, which are
critical for effective treatment and improving patient outcomes. Regular
screenings and awareness of personal risk factors are also essential
components of early cancer detection



Q4 What are some things that happen only in India?

KR Is that happening only in India? My neighbour, a friend
of my age, gives to his grandson anything between $100 to$ 500. Even if one
were 100 years old, for his Grandparents, only a kid, who should not
suffer.



Q5 What are the prospects after a M.Sc. in mathematics?

KR  What is the perspective for a BA is for all. A
particular study has prospects only in that like; hunting for generally
means, all are only in one pool. The best prospect in  the Ramanujan Maths
Institute and as a statistician. A lecturer is what I demand and as a
tuition teacher to so many as 90% of students feel weak only in maths.  KR
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*CULTURAL QA

Fwd: election

However all 40 MPs and total opposition are waste ; useful to topple the
govt; but may work adversely too KR

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From: Srinivasan Sridharan 
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raj...@gmail.com>, SaranathanTG 

*From:* Srinivasan Sridharan 
*Date:* June 7, 2024

லோக் சபா கேன்டீனில் நாற்பது தோழர்களுடன் கம்பீரமாக நுழைந்து வெற்றிப்
புன்னகையுடன் அமரப் போகும் 'மண்டை ஆட்டி' கனிமொழி சொல்கிறார் - நம் அண்ணாமலை
ராஜினாமா செய்ய வேண்டுமாம் கட்சித் தலைவர் பதவியை!

அக்கா வுக்கு வயசாச்சு. அதனால் நினைவு படுத்துகிறோம்..

1977 பார்லிமெண்ட் தேர்தலில் ஆசைக்கு ஒரு தம்பி - ஆசைத்தம்பி மட்டும் வட
சென்னையில் வெற்றி பெற, மீதி எல்லாத் தொகுதியிலும் தி.மு.க சுத்தமா வழித்துக்
கொண்டு போயிற்றே - அப்போது உங்கள் மானமுள்ள அப்பா கட்சித் தலைவர் பதவியை
ராஜினாமாவா செய்தார்?

அதே வருடம் சட்டமன்றத் தேர்தலில் - கட்சி தொடங்கி நான்கே வருடத்தில்
எம்.ஜி.ஆர் (அதிமுக) ஆட்சியைப் பிடித்தார்.

திமுகவுக்கு வெறும் 48 சீட் கிடைத்து எதிர்க்கட்சியாகத்தான் வர முடிந்தது -
உங்கள் அப்பா கருணாநிதி அப்போதும் கட்சித் தலைமைப் பதவியை ராஜினாமாவா செய்ய
வில்லையே..

1980 நாடாளுமன்றத் தேர்தலில் இந்திரா காந்தியிடம் total சரணாகதி அடைந்தார்
உங்கள் தகப்பனார்.

அதுவரை - "சிட்டிபாபு, சாத்தூர் பாலகிருஷ்ணன் உயிர் குடித்த பூதகி, சேலைகட்டிய
ஹிட்லர், மீசை இல்லாத முசோலினி"- என்றெல்லாம் எமர்ஜென்சி கொண்டுவந்த இந்திரா
காந்தியை 1977 தேர்தலில் திட்டிய உங்கள் தகப்பனார்...

1980 நாடாளு மன்றத் தேர்தலில் மானங்கெட்டு அதே இந்திராகாந்தி காலில் விழுந்து
- "நேருவின் மகளே வருக - நிலையான ஆட்சியைத் தருக!"- என்று அந்தர் பல்டி
அடித்து பார்லிமெண்ட் தேர்தலில் திமுக - காங்கிரஸ் கூட்டணி வென்றது.

அகில இந்தியாவிலும் வீசிய "இந்திரா அலை" யின் விளைவு தமிழகத்திலும்
பார்லிமெண்ட் தேர்தலில் காங்கிரஸ் - திமுக கூட்டணி வென்றது.

அந்த மிதப்பில் இந்திராகாந்தியிடம் முழங்கால் மண்டியிட்டு மாநிலத்தில்
எம்.ஜி.ஆர் ஆட்சியைக் கலைக்க வைத்தார் உங்கள் தகப்பனார் ஆகிய கருணாநிதி.

ஆனால் அதே வருடம் ஜுன் மாதம் 1980 சட்டமன்றத் தேர்தல்களில் - ஜூன் 3 தனது
பிறந்த நாள் அன்று முதல்வராகப் பதவி ஏற்கலாம் என்று மனப்பால் குடித்த உங்கள்
தகப்பனாரின் கனவு தூள் தூளாக நொறுங்கியது!

ஜூன் 3 பதவி ஏற்கலாம் என்று அலங்கரிக்கப்பட்ட வள்ளுவர் கோட்டம் - எம்.ஜி.ஆர்
தொண்டர்கள் பட்டாசு விட்டுக் கொண்டாடிய அதிமுகவின் பிரம்மாண்ட வெற்றியால்
அதிர்ந்தது.

உங்கள் தகப்பனாரே அண்ணாநகர் தொகுதியில் டாக்டர் ஹண்டேவிடம் தப்பித்தோம்
பிழைத்தோம் என்று கடைசி ரவுண்டு எண்ணிக்கையில் வெறும் 699 வோட்டு
எண்ணிக்கையில் தப்பிப் பிழைத்தார்.

எம்.ஜி.ஆர் போட்ட உப்பைத் தின்றுவிட்டு நன்றி கெட்டு உங்கள் தகப்பனாரிடம்
வந்து சேர்ந்த நாஞ்சில் மனோகரன் மயிலாப்பூரில் தோற்றார்.

கட்சி தொடங்கியதில் இருந்து தோற்றே அறியாத ஆயிரம் விளக்கு தொகுதியில் சாதிக்
பாட்சா - கட்சிப் பொருளாளர் - தோற்றார்.

கட்சியின் பலம் 48 ல் இருந்து 38 ஆக ஆயிற்று!

உங்கள் தகப்பனார் என்ன கட்சித் தலைவர் பதவியை ராஜினாமாவா செய்தார்? அவர்
மானஸ்தன். அப்படி செய்யலையே..

பிறகு 1984 தேர்தல்...

இந்திரா காந்தி சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்பட்ட பிறகு நடந்த தேர்தல்.

எம்.ஜி.ஆர் அமெரிக்காவில் ப்ரூக்ளின் மருத்துவமனையில் நோய்வாய்ப்பட்டு படுத்த
படுக்கையாக போட்டியிட்ட தேர்தல்.

"என்னிடம் ஆட்சியைக் கொடுங்கள் - எம்.ஜி.ஆர் வந்ததும் அவரிடமே ஒப்படைத்து
விடுகிறேன்!"

"தமிழர்களே! நீங்கள் என்னைக் கடலில் வீசி எறிந்தாலும் கட்டுமரமாக உங்களுக்கு
தொண்டு செய்வேன்!"- என்றெல்லாம் கதறி உங்கள் தகப்பனார் கெஞ்சியும் அழுதும்
தமிழக மக்கள் திமுகவை படுதோல்வி அடையச் செய்தார்கள்!

அப்போதும் உங்கள் தகப்பனார் ஆகிய கருணாநிதி - "சாவுக்கு ஒரு வோட்டு
(இந்திராகாந்தி) - நோவுக்கு ஒரு வோட்டு!"- என்று சமாதானம் சொன்னாரே தவிர
கட்சித் தலைவர் பதவியை ராஜினாமாவா செய்தார்?

எம்.ஜி.ஆர் உயிரோடு இருந்தவரை உங்கள் தகப்பனார் ஆகிய கருணாநிதி சென்னை
கோட்டையின் காம்பவுண்ட் சுவரைக் கூட எட்ட முடியவில்லை என்பதுதானே கசப்பான
உண்மை?

அவரது மறைவுக்குப் பிறகும் கூட - அவர் விட்டுச் சென்ற அதிமுக கட்சி - ஜெயலலிதா
அணி, ஜானகி அணி என்று பிரிந்ததால்தான் வோட்டுப் பிளவின் காரணமாகத்தான் 1989 ல்
உங்கள் தகப்பனாராகிய கருணாநிதி ஆட்சிக்கு வர முடிந்ததே தவிர அவருடைய தனிப்பட்ட
சாதனையால் அல்ல!

பிறகு அதே 1989 நாடாளுமன்றத் தேர்தலில் - ஒன்றுபட்ட அதிமுகவின் "இரட்டை இலை"
பவர் உங்கள் தகப்பனார் ஆகிய கருணாநிதி கட்சியை (திமுக) ஒரு பாராளுமன்ற சீட்
கூட ஜெயிக்க முடியாமல் தூக்கி கூவத்தில் வீசியதே - அப்போது உங்கள் தகப்பனார்
கட்சிப் பதவியை ராஜினாமாவா செய்தார்?

பிறகு 1991ல் சட்டமன்றம், பாராளுமன்றம் இரண்டுக்கும் ஒரு சேர நடந்த தேர்தலில்
- திமுக சுத்தமாக வாஷ் அவுட் ஆகி, சட்டமன்றத்தில் துறைமுகம் (உங்கள் தகப்பனார்
ஆகிய கருணாநிதி) மற்றும் எழும்பூர் (செல்வராஜ்) இரண்டு பேர் மட்டும்
ஜெயித்தார்களே - அப்போது உங்கள் தகப்பனார் ஆகிய கருணாநிதி கட்சித் தலைவர்
பதவியை ராஜினாமா செய்தாரா?

பிறகு 1998 நாடாளுமன்றத் தேர்தல், 2011 மற்றும் 2016 சட்டமன்றத் தேர்தல்கள்
ஆகியவற்றில் ஜெயலலிதா தலைமையிலான அதிமுகவிடம் செம அடி வாங்கியதே திமுக -
அப்போது உங்கள் தகப்பனாராகிய கருணாநிதி கட்சித் தலைவர் பதவியை ராஜினாமாவா
செய்தார்?

மண்டையை மண்டையை ஆட்டிப் பேசும் முன்பு உங்கள் கட்சியின் கடந்த காலத் தேர்தல்
தோல்விகளை - அதுவும் உங்கள் தகப்பனார் ஆகிய கருணாநிதி தலைமையில் கட்சி
சந்தித்த தோல்விகளை கவனத்தில் கொண்டு பேசுங்கள்.

ஆக..அண்ணாமலையை எப்படிப் பயன்படுத்த வேண்டும் என்பதை பாஜகவின் அகில இந்தியத்
தலைமை முடிவு செய்யு

Fwd: freebees

A neat thinking KR

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From: Srinivasan Sridharan 
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 at 12:23
Subject: Fwd: freebees
To: Devarajan Subramaniam , Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
keyarinc...@gmail.com>, SaranathanTG 

*From:* Srinivasan Sridharan 
*Date:* June 7, 2024

Mis match சமீபத்தில் வால்பாறையில் இருக்கும் பாலாஜி கோவிலுக்கு போகும் போது
அங்கிருந்த குரங்குகள் தின்பதற்கு பழங்கள் கொடுத்தோம்.

எங்களை அழைத்த வனத்துறை அதிகாரி, "குரங்குகளுக்கு மனிதர்கள் இப்படிப் பழங்கள்
கொடுத்துப் பழக்குவது தவறானது"- என்றார்.

ஆச்சர்யமாய் இருந்தது..

விலங்குகளுக்கு உணவிடுவது நல்லதுதானே என்று கேட்டோம் ...

அதற்கு அவர் சொன்னார்

"சுற்றிப் பார்ப்பதற்காக வரும் மனிதர்கள் ஒரு பிரியத்தில் தான் குரங்குகளுக்கு
உணவிடுகிறார்கள்.

ஆனால் தினமும் இப்படியே இந்தக் குரங்குகளுக்கு உணவு கிடைத்து விடுவதால்

இந்தக் குரங்குகள் கஷ்டப்பட்டு உணவு தேடுவது, மரங்களின் மேல் ஏறி பழங்கள்
பறிப்பது போன்ற பழக்கங்களை எல்லாம் கொஞ்சம் கொஞ்சமாக கைவிட்டுக்
கொண்டிருக்கின்றன..

இப்படியே போவதால் ஒரு நாள் முற்றிலும் அந்த பயிற்சி இல்லாமலேயே புதிய
தலைமுறைக் குரங்குகள் மாறி விடுகின்றன...

வரிசையில் உட்கார்ந்து பிச்சை எடுப்பது போல இந்தக் குரங்குகளும்
டூரிஸ்ட்களிடம் பிச்சை எடுக்கும் ஜீவன்களாக மாறி விடுகின்றன...

எனவே இயற்கையுடன் இணைந்து வாழும் மிருகங்களை அதன் போக்கில் வளர விடுவதே
அவற்றுக்கு ஆரோக்கியமானது" என்று பதில் சொன்னார்...

கேக்கும்போதே மனசு திக்கென்றது நிறைய யோசிக்க வைத்தது...! -

இலவச பஸ்ஸில் பயணம் செய்து
இலவச அரிசி வாங்கி,
இலவச கிரைண்டரில்
இட்லிக்கு மாவாட்டி,
இலவச மிக்ஸியில் சட்னி அரைத்து,
இலவச மின்விசிறியைப் போட்டு
இளைப்பாறி, இலவச டிவியில் படமும் சீரியல்களும் பார்க்கும் நம்மஊர்
மக்களுக்கும்,
இது தான் நடக்கிறது!உழைக்கவே மனம் வருவதில்லை!"

மேட்டர்" என்னவோ குரங்கு பற்றித்தான். ஆனால் அது நம் மக்களுக்கும் அப்படியே
பொருந்துகிறது.

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Re: Elections

ரிகளின் தரப்பில் சேர்ந்து
> கொள்வார்கள். ஓர் எதிரி நியாயமற்ற வழிமுறைகளின் மூலம் வஞ்சிக்கப்படக்கூடாது.
> அதே போல அவன் மரணம் அடையும் அளவுக்குக் காயப்படுத்தப்படக்கூடாது. அவ்வாறு
> தாக்கினால் அவனது உயிரே போய்விடக் கூடும் . "வஞ்சகத்தின் உதவியுடன் போரிட்டால்
> எதிரி கொல்லப்படக்கூடாது, அவ்வாறு கொல்லப்பட்டால் அது பாவம்நிறைந்த செயலாகும்.
> எனினும், நியாயமான போரில் ஓர் எதிரியைக் கொல்வது தகுதிவாய்ந்தது {புண்ணியம்
> நிறைந்தே} மன்னர்களின் வகைகள் .
>
> குறைந்த வளங்களே கொண்ட ஒரு மன்னன், அதை வைத்துக் கொண்டு நிறைவுடன் இருந்தால்,
> அவன் வாழ்வதே பெரிதெனக் கருதுபவனாவான் . எந்த மன்னன், பரந்து விரிந்த, செல்வம்
> நிறைந்த ஆட்சிப் பகுதிகளைக் கொண்டவனோ, பற்றுறுதியுடன் கூடிய குடிமக்களைக்
> கொண்டவனோ, மனநிறைவுடன் இருக்கும் பணியாட்கள் மற்றும் அதிகாரிகளைக் கொண்டவனோ,
> அவனே தன் வேர்களை உறுதியாகக் கொண்டவன் என்று சொல்லப்படுகிறான். .
>
> எந்த மன்னனின் ரித்விக்குகள், புரோகிதர்கள், ஆசான்கள், சாத்திரங்களை
> நன்கறிந்தவர்கள், கௌரவங்களுக்குத் தகுந்த பிறர் ஆகியோர் முறையாகக்
> கௌரவிக்கப்படுகிறார்களோ, அவனே இவ்வுலகின் வழிகளை அறிந்தவன் என்று
> சொல்லப்படுகிறான் இத்தகு நடத்தையின் மூலமே இந்திரன் உலகத்தின் அரசுரிமையைப்
> பெற்றான். இந்த நடத்தையின் மூலமே பூமி சார்ந்த மன்னர்கள், இந்திரனின் நிலையை
> அடைவதில் வெல்கிறார்கள். ..
>
>  மன்னன் பிரதர்த்தனன், பெரும்போரில் தன் எதிரிகளை அடக்கி, தானியங்கள்,
> மருத்துவ மூலிகைகள் உள்ளிட்ட அவர்களுடைய செல்வமனைத்தையும் எடுத்துக்
> கொண்டாலும், அவர்களுடைய நிலத்தைத் தீண்டாமல் விட்டுவிட்டான். மன்னன்
> திவோதாசன், தன் எதிரிகளை அடக்கிய பிறகு, அவர்களுடைய வேள்வி நெருப்பில்
> எஞ்சியவற்றையும், (காணிக்கைக்காக வைக்கப்பட்டிருந்த) தெளிந்த நெய்யையும்,
> அவர்களது உணவையும் எடுத்துக் கொண்டான். இதன் காரணமாக அவன் வெற்றி கொண்டதன்
> தகுதியை இழந்தான் .
>
> மன்னன் நாபாகன் (தன் படையெடுப்புகள் முடிந்ததும்), கல்விமான்களான பிராமணர்கள்
> மற்றும் தவசிகளின் செல்வத்தைத் தவிர்த்து, மொத்த நாடுகளையும் அதன்
> ஆட்சியாளர்களோடு சேர்த்துப் பிராமணர்களுக்கான வேள்விக்கொடையாகக் கொடுத்தான். .
> ஓ யுதிஷ்டிரா, பழங்காலத்தின் நீதிமிக்க மன்னர்கள் அனைவரின் நடத்தைகள்
> சிறப்பானவையாக இருக்கின்றன. அவற்றை நான் மொத்தமாக அங்கீகரிக்கிறேன்.
>
>  எந்த மன்னன் தன் செழிப்பை விரும்புவானோ, அவன் சிறப்பான அனைத்தின் துணை
> கொண்டு படையெடுக்க முனைய வேண்டுமேயன்றி, வஞ்சகத்துடனோ, செருக்குடனோ அல்ல"
> என்றார் {பீஷ்மர்}. ..
>
>
> Just I picked from collection. I am not responsible if you connect some
> points with current result.
>
>
> N Jambunathan Rengarajapuram-Kodambakkam-Chennai-Mob:9176159004
>
> *" What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you
> become by achieving your goals. If you want to live a happy life, tie it to
> a goal, not to people or things "*
>
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 6:42 PM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is not corruption. It is not biased. It is "US". How we view our home
>> with green eyes. How did Bheeshma look at Draupadi?. Bias is avoiding the
>> dharma and feeling our thoughts on our clan pattern at the back. So too
>> north south trends. When we turn a turtle out of fear even after old age,
>> purely on vested interests, why not a nation with so many people like
>> "US"?  Than Nenjarivadhu Poyyatrkka; poytha pin than nenje thannaich
>> chudum. We think we are upright; are we? KR IRS 4624
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 06:24, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: N Sekar 
>>> Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 3:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Elections
>>> To: 
>>> Cc: Chittanandam V. R. , Kerala Iyer <
>>> keralaiy...@googlegroups.com>, Mathangi K. Kumar <
>>> mathangikku...@gmail.com>, Narayanaswamy Sekar ,
>>> Rama (Iyer 123 Group) , Rangarajan T.N.C. <
>>> tncrangara...@yahoo.com>, SRIRAMAJAYAM , Srinivasan
>>> Sridharan , Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
>>> yeddanapu...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> But phrases like democracy has won etc. are just that - words. They are
>>> more to console ourselves.
>>>
>>> My take:
>>>
>>> 1. The overconfidence of the BJP and the consequent lower turnout.
>>>
>>> 2.  Over reliance on one individual  - we need strong state level
>>> leaders with enough powers.
>>>
>>> 3. BJP's National President should be a person with strong popular
>>> support and more charisma. Just riding on Modi’s back will not do.
>>>
>>> 4.  We Hindus will never unite. We specialize in committing hara kiri.
>>>
>>> 5. If after Sandeshkhali Mamata still wins, there is no hope for the
>>> country.
>>>
>>> 6. Muslims will in due course of time, will rule the c

Fwd: [iyer123] INTERNATIONAL BRAHMINS DAY

Everyone who wants unity should unite all the Brahmins in their family,
relatives, friends and neighbors and do their best for the unity and
integration of the Brahmin community.
HAVE WE DONE THIS? preach only what we practice. no hype and no double
action .Embedded with fear of favour will render only such results only. Is
there really any day for Brahmins by mere caste-label? KR IRS 7624

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From: 'venkat giri' via iyer123 
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 at 02:25
Subject: [iyer123] INTERNATIONAL BRAHMINS DAY
To: Iyer 

*சர்வதேச பிராமணர்கள் தின செய்தி*

பிராமண சொந்தங்கள் அனைவருக்கும் பிராமணர் தின நல் வாழ்த்துக்கள்.

பிராமணர்கள் ஒவ்வொருவரும் பிராமண சமுதாய ஒற்றுமையில் அக்கறை காட்ட வேண்டும்.

நமது சமுதாயம் ஒன்று பட்டு நின்றால் மட்டுமே பிராமண துவேஷத்தை ஒழித்து, நமது
சமுதாயத்தின் அடிப்படை உரிமைகளை மீட்க முடியும் என்பதை பிராமணர்கள் உணர
வேண்டும்.

ஒவ்வொரு பிராமணரும், ஒவ்வொரு பிராமண குடும்பமும் தமிழகத்திலுள்ள ஒட்டு மொத்த
பிராமணர்களையும் இணைக்கும் பணியில் தங்களை ஈடுபடுத்திக் கொண்டால் மட்டுமே நமது
தமிழக பிராமண சமுதாயத்திற்கு விடிவு காலம் பிறக்கும்.

ஒற்றுமையின் அருமையை உணராத ஒரே இனம் நமது தமிழக பிராமணர் இனம் உள்ளது. இந்த
நிலை இனி மாற வேண்டும்.

ஒற்றுமையை விரும்புபவர்கள் ஒவ்வொருவரும் தங்களது குடும்பத்தார், உறவினர்கள்,
நண்பர்கள், அக்கம் பக்கத்தார் என அனைத்து பிராமணர்களையும் ஒருங்கிணைத்து
பிராமண சமுதாய ஒற்றுமைக்கும், ஒருங்கிணைப்புக்கும் தங்களால் இயன்ற முயற்சியினை
செய்திடல் வேண்டும

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Fwd: SHIPS WHICH WERE MARKED

Thank you and Smd Bhagavatham says in chap 21 as,"
CHAPTER TWENTY-FOUR
Matsya, the Lord’s Fish Incarnation

This chapter describes the Supreme Personality of Godhead’s incarnation as
a fish, and it also describes the saving of Mahārāja Satyavrata from an
inundation.

The Supreme Personality of Godhead expands Himself by *svāṁśa* (His
personal expansions) and *vibhinnāṁśa* (His expansions as the living
entities). As stated in *Bhagavad-gītā* (4.8)
<https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/4/8/>, *paritrāṇāya sādhūnāṁ vināśāya ca
duṣkṛtām:* the Supreme Personality of Godhead appears on this planet for
the protection of the *sādhus,* or devotees, and for the destruction of the
miscreants, or non devotees. He especially descends to give protection to
the cows, the *brāhmaṇas,* the demigods, the devotees and the Vedic system
of religion. Thus He appears in various forms — sometimes as a fish,
sometimes a boar, sometimes Nṛsiṁhadeva, sometimes Vāmanadeva and so on —
but in any form or incarnation, although He comes within the atmosphere of
the material modes of nature, He is unaffected. This is a sign of His
supreme controlling power. Although He comes within the material
atmosphere, *māyā* cannot touch Him. Therefore, no material qualities can
be attributed to Him to any degree.

Once, at the end of the previous *kalpa,* a demon named Hayagrīva wanted to
take the Vedic knowledge away from Lord Brahmā at the time of annihilation.
Therefore the Supreme Personality of Godhead took the incarnation of a fish
at the beginning of the period of Svāyambhuva Manu and saved the
*Vedas.* During
the reign of Cākṣuṣa Manu there was a king named Satyavrata, who was a
great pious ruler. To save him, the Lord appeared as the fish incarnation
for a second time. King Satyavrata later became the son of the sun-god and
was known as Śrāddhadeva. He was established as Manu by the Supreme
Personality of Godhead.

To receive the favor of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, King Satyavrata
engaged in the austerity of subsisting only by drinking water. Once, while
performing this austerity on the bank of the Kṛtamālā River and offering
oblations of water with the palm of his hand, he found a small fish. The
fish appealed to the King for protection, asking the King to keep Him in a
safe place. Although the King did not know that the small fish was the
Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself, as a king he gave shelter to the
fish and kept Him in a water jug. The fish, being the Supreme Personality
of Godhead, wanted to show His potency to King Satyavrata, and thus He
immediately expanded His body in such a way that He could no longer be kept
in the jug of water. The King then put the fish in a big well, but the well
was also too small. Then the King put the fish in a lake, but the lake was
also unsuitable. Finally the King put the fish in the sea, but even the sea
could not accommodate Him. Thus the King understood that the fish was no
one else but the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and he requested the Lord
to describe His incarnation as a fish. The Personality of Godhead, being
pleased with the King, informed him that within a week there would be an
inundation throughout the universe and that the fish incarnation would
protect the King, along with the *ṛṣis,* herbs, seeds and other living
entities, in a boat, which would be attached to the fish’s horn. After
saying this, the Lord disappeared. King Satyavrata offered respectful
obeisances to the Supreme Lord and continued to meditate upon Him. In due
course of time, annihilation took place, and the King saw a boat coming
near. After getting aboard with learned *brāhmaṇas* and saintly persons, he
offered prayers to worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The Supreme
Lord is situated in everyone’s heart, and thus he taught Mahārāja
Satyavrata and the saintly persons about Vedic knowledge from the core of
the heart. King Satyavrata took his next birth as Vaivasvata Manu, who is
mentioned in *Bhagavad-gītā <https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/>.* *Vivasvān
manave prāha:* the sun-god spoke the science of *Bhagavad-gītā
<https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/>* to his son Manu. Because of being the
son of Vivasvān, this Manu is known as Vaivasvata Manu.  K R IRS 7624

-- Forwarded message -
From: Srinivasan Sridharan 
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 at 02:19
Subject: Re: SHIPS WHICH WERE MARKED
To: Rajaram Krishnamurthy 


As per Srimad Bhagavatham,
The first ship in this category was used by the Pandya King Sathyavratha .
Sridharan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:53 PM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:



SHIPS WHICH WERE MARKED

Many vessels have had a significant impact on history, shaping trade,
exploration, and even warfare. Here are a few notable examples:

1. HMS Victory

Type: Ship of the line

Era: Launched in 1765

Significance: HMS Victory served as the flagship of Admiral Horatio Nelson
during the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805. This battle was a de

Re: Temple around Chennai: Collection & count No. 68 (1) Sri Karaneeswarar Temple, Mylapore Chennai

SAPTA STANA STALAMS

Tiruvaiyaru Sapta Sthanam refers to the seven temples in and around
Tiruvaiyaru, that constituted the saptha-pathi (seven steps) at the wedding
of Nandi (or Nandikeswara, Siva’s foremost gana and attendant) to
Swayamprakshai.

Siva himself officiated at the wedding, held at Tirumazhapadi, and then
took the couple to Siva temples in seven nearby towns, representing the
traditional seven-steps ritual connected with Vedic marriages. Each of
these temples / towns also contributed a requirement for the wedding:

Siva himself officiated at the wedding, held at Tirumazhapadi, and then
took the couple to Siva temples in seven nearby towns, representing the
traditional seven-steps ritual connected with Vedic marriages. Each of
these temples / towns also contributed a requirement for the wedding:

Fruits from Tiruppazhanam (Apatsahayeswarar temple)

Food / rice from Tiruchotruthurai (Odhavaneswarar temple)

Vedic priests / brahmins from Tiruvedikudi (Vedapureeswarar temple)

Ornaments (Kandi) from Tirukandiyur (Brahmasira Kandeeswarar temple)

Flowers from Tirupoonthuruthi (Pushpavaneswarar temple)

Ghee / clarified butter from Tiruneistanam / Thillaistanam (Neiyadiappar
temple)

Celebration at Tiruvaiyaru (Aiyarappar temple)

The occasion is celebrated every year, with a glass-encrusted palanquin
carrying the idol of Siva, that starts at Tiruvaiyaru. During this
festival, on the day before pournami (full moon) in the Tamil month of
Chithirai (April-May), Aiyarappar and Dharmasamvarthini Amman from
Tiruvaiyaru invite the deities of six temples nearby to the post-wedding
celebrations. The interesting part is, at each temple, they are joined by
the deities (utsava murtis) of that temple, and go together with them to
the next temple, in their respective palanquins.

First, Aiyarappar and Dharmasamvarthini go to Tirupazhanam. The next stop
is Tiruchotruthurai, followed by Tiruvedikudi, Tirukandiyur,
Tiruppoonthuruthi and finally, Thillaisthanam.

The Thillaisthanam temple – being the last stop – is kept open through the
night, with celebrations and devotional aspects being conducted in
parallel. Devotees sing pathigams from the Tevaram all night, and around
midnight, crackers are burst to celebrate the events.

-

There are seven great Shiva temples in Mylapore, Chennai. Most have

heard of the famous Kapaleswara Temple, but how about the other

six? In fact, many who visit the Kapali temple regularly have not even

stepped inside the important Velleeswarar Temple just next door to

it!

The key to this Siddha worship procedure is that devotees should

offer worship at the six other Shiva temples first before visiting the

Kapaleswara Temple.

Order of temple in which we need to visit:

Mylapore Saptha Sthaana Shiva worship includes

(1) Sri Karaneeswarar Temple

(2) Sri Theerthapaleeswarar Temple

(3) Sri Velleeswarar Temple

(4) Sri Virupaksheeswarar Temple

(5) Sri Valeeswarar Temple

(6) Sri Malleeswarar Temple and

(7) Sri Kapaleeswarar Temple, in that order

--

https://youtu.be/kTb4zZwPkvQ?list=PLK-cLjWWTpnorYHirUzB8DNrYUm31DR4n

View of Mylapore 7 temples.

K Rajaram IRS 7624

On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 at 00:08, Jambunathan Iyer  wrote:

> Temple around Chennai: Collection & count No. 68
>
> (1) Sri Karaneeswarar Temple, Mylapore Chennai
>
> The Karaneeswarar Temple is a popular Hindu shrine situated at the Bazaar
> Road in Mylapore, Chennai. One has to take the Kutchery Road from the
> Mylapore Tank bus stop and from there the Bazaar Road. The temple is
> primarily dedicated to Lord Shiva.
>
> The Karaneeswarar Temple is a 12th-century Hindu temple in the
> neighbourhood of Mylapore in Chennai. The temple is dedicated to Shiva as
> Karaneeswarar. There are also shrines to Sarvamangala Vinayaka (Ganesha),
> Dandapani (Kartikeya), Durga, Lakshmi and Saraswati.
>
> Sri Karaneeswara temple is one of the Sapta Sthana Shiva temples in
> Mylapore (one of the seven sacred Shiva temples in Mylapore). This east
> facing temple has a five tier Raja Gopuram (tower). The exterior wall
> surrounding the main shrine has separate niches for Lord Ganesha, Sri
> Dakshinamurti, Lord Vishnu, Lord Brahma and Goddess Durga. Lord
> Chandikeshwara is also near the image of Lord Brahma, just like in many
> other temples.
>
> According to legend, a young Brahmin in Mylapore worshipped a lingam, a
> symbol of Shiva. Through his penance, he discovered that Shiva was
> responsible for the creation, protection, and destruction of the universe.
> Subsequently, the lingam became the main deity of this temple, came to be
> known as Karaneeswarar (literally "one who causes"). While there is no
> concrete proof, it is widely believed that this temple may date back to the
> 12th century CE.
>
> The main deities of the temples are Karaneeswara (Shiva) and his consort
> Porkodi Amman

SHIPS WHICH WERE MARKED

SHIPS WHICH WERE MARKED

Many vessels have had a significant impact on history, shaping trade,
exploration, and even warfare. Here are a few notable examples:

1. HMS Victory

Type: Ship of the line

Era: Launched in 1765

Significance: HMS Victory served as the flagship of Admiral Horatio Nelson
during the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805. This battle was a decisive naval
engagement during the Napoleonic Wars and established British naval
dominance for over a century.

2. Santa María

Type: Carrack

Era: 15th century

Significance: One of the three ships used by Christopher Columbus on his
first voyage across the Atlantic in 1492. The Santa María played a crucial
role in the European discovery of the Americas, which had profound effects
on world history.

3. USS Monitor

Type: Ironclad warship

Era: American Civil War, launched in 1862

Significance: The USS Monitor was one of the first ironclad warships,
representing a significant technological advancement in naval warfare. Its
famous battle with the CSS Virginia at the Battle of Hampton Roads marked
the end of wooden warships' dominance.

4. RMS Titanic

Type: Olympic-class Ocean liner

Era: Early 20th century, launched in 1911

Significance: The Titanic's tragic sinking on its maiden voyage in 1912 led
to significant changes in maritime safety regulations, including improved
lifeboat requirements and the establishment of the International Ice Patrol.

5. HMS Beagle

Type: Cherokee-class brig-sloop

Era: Launched in 1820

Significance: The HMS Beagle carried Charles Darwin on his voyage around
the world from 1831 to 1836. Observations made during this journey were
pivotal in the development of Darwin's theory of evolution by natural
selection.

6. HMS Dreadnought

Type: Battleship

Era: Launched in 1906

Significance: The HMS Dreadnought revolutionized naval power with its
"all-big-gun" armament and steam turbine propulsion. It made existing
battleships obsolete and started an arms race in naval construction leading
up to World War I.

7. Kon-Tiki

Type: Balsa wood raft

Era: 1947

Significance: Thor Heyerdahl's Kon-Tiki expedition demonstrated the
possibility of ancient people traveling across the Pacific Ocean using
simple rafts, supporting theories about pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact.

8. Voyager 1

Type: Spacecraft

Era: Launched in 1977

Significance: Although not a vessel in the traditional sense, Voyager 1 has
changed our understanding of the solar system. It provided unprecedented
data about the outer planets and continues to send information from beyond
our solar system.

9. Mayflower

Type: English merchant ship

Era: 17th century, launched in 1609

Significance: The Mayflower transported the Pilgrims from England to the
New World in 1620, an event that is a foundational moment in American
history and has significant cultural and historical importance.

Each of these vessels has played a pivotal role in shaping human history
through exploration, technological advancement, or significant historical
events.

Vasa

Type: Warship

Era: Launched in 1628

Significance: The Vasa was a Swedish warship that sank on its maiden voyage
in Stockholm harbor. It was intended to be the pride of the Swedish navy
but tragically sank due to design flaws.

Excavation: The Vasa was salvaged from the seabed in 1961, after being
submerged for over 300 years. The excavation and preservation of the Vasa
have provided a wealth of information about 17th-century shipbuilding
techniques, naval warfare, and everyday life aboard a warship.

Impact on History:

Archaeological Insight: The Vasa is one of the best-preserved ships from
the 17th century, offering invaluable insights into the craftsmanship and
technology of the time.

Cultural Impact: The Vasa Museum in Stockholm, where the ship is now
housed, is one of Sweden's most visited tourist attractions and serves as a
powerful symbol of Swedish maritime heritage.

Scientific Advancement: The preservation techniques developed for the Vasa
have advanced the field of maritime archaeology and have been applied to
other underwater archaeological projects.

Other Notable Excavated Vessels

Mary Rose

Type: Tudor Warship

Era: Launched in 1511, sank in 1545

Significance: The Mary Rose served in the English navy for over three
decades before sinking in the Solent during a battle with the French fleet.

Excavation: Raised in 1982, the Mary Rose has provided extraordinary
insights into Tudor naval warfare, ship construction, and daily life aboard
a warship. Artifacts recovered from the ship have helped historians
understand the period's technology and culture.

Uluburun Shipwreck

Type: Late Bronze Age trading vessel

Era: Around 14th century BCE

Significance: Discovered off the coast of Turkey, the Uluburun shipwreck is
one of the oldest and most significant underwater archaeological
discoveries.

Excavation: The ship's cargo included a wide variety of goods from
different civilizations, such as copper ingots, tin, glass, and

SANATANA DHARMA PART 45 K RAJARAM IRS 66624 7624

SANATANA DHARMA PART 45   K RAJARAM IRS   66624 7624

CONTD

   prayaatum Brahmalokam

(As extolled by us Devi Gayatri! You are the bestower of our desires and
the epitome of Purity, Veda Rupa and of two forms of Brahma Loka and Inside
the orbit of Surya Deva; {Upper and lower brahma lokam are spoken as
classifications of the brahmalokam where normal sanatanis, as told in B G
stay for sometime and take a qualified rebirth on the earth} “ kindly bless
me on Earth to provide me long life, prosperity, Brahma Teja!”

Omkaara Swarupas as Devatva-Trimurtitva-Paramatva

1-2) Om tad Brahma, Om tad vaayuh, Om tad aatma, Om tat satyam, Om tat
sarvam, Om tad purornamah/ Om Antahscharati bhuteshu guhaayaam
vishvamurtishu, twam yagjnastvam vashtkaara stvamindrasvah Rudrastvam
Vishnustvam Brahmastvam Prajaapatih, tvam tadaapa jyotee rasomritam Brahma
Bhurbhuvasuvarom/

AUM is equated with all the highest blessings of the realm.

Om that is Brahmatatvam;

Om that is Vayu the sarvatra sutraatma;

Om that is Jeevatma the Antaratma;

Om that is Paramaartha Satyam;

Om that is the totality of ‗Charaachara atmakam‘ or of the Living Beings
whether mobile or immobile ;

Om that Purornama or the entirety of Creation featuring Trilokas of
Bhu-Bhuva-Suva!

That Invisible Paramatma is ever present and is hidden inside one‘s
consciousness assuming myriad forms as ever active and pulsating.

He is the Yagjna Swarupa; He is the emblem of sacrifice; He is Vashakaara
or the Supreme Controller and Regulator; He assumes the Forms of Indra the
Head Leader of Devas, He is Rudra the Exterminator and Revivor of Srishti
again and again; He is Vishnu the Sustainer of the Universe; Brahma the
Supreme Srishti Karta; Prajapati the Grand Ruler and Administrator! He is
the Jala Deva as present in waterflows, rivers, oceans! He is the Surya
Deva the Radiance; the Rasa the Essence of Fruits; the Amrita or Ambrosia;

 He is Brahma the Seat of Knowledge and the Veda Swarupa; the Manifestation
of Trilokas of Bhu-Bhuva-Suva all absorbed in the Pranava the Supreme A-U-M
representing the Truth of Srishti- Sthithi-Samhaara or Creation-
Preservation- Destruction or the Cause-Causation-Collapse!

  Chandogya UpanishadOm is the very first sound and word of all
Vedas and Scriptures expressed in Udgita or the chant of the Supreme; the
chant of Udgita explains Universal Creation, Vedas, Meditation, Rites
vis-à-vis the Reality.

  I.i.1) *Om ityedat aksharam Udgitam upaaseeta, Om iti hridgaayati
tasyopa vyaakhyaanam/*

(Even as ‗Udgita‘ or the chant of the Supreme signifies as OM
emphasising that very word as the essence of Reality and Truth, Upanishads
underline the proximity and the symbolic expression of Paramatma!)

Tirukkural also says in the opening

  Agara  Mudala  EzhUthellam  aadi bhagavan   Mudatre ulagu. (1)

  I have a thesis where Tirukkural was written only by Brahmin smartha
extracting The Vedic verses in Tamil. The manifestation or creation of the
Panchabutas, planets, stars, principles of Boudeekam, so many SUCCESSIVE
FLOWS, are just manifestations of the Brahmam and followed by sound Aum.
AND THE OPENING VERSE OPENS WITH A, U, M, AGARA, MUDALA EZHUTHELLAM (ALL
THE WORDS AND LETTERS STARTING FROM “A”)(AANA) FEROM THE AADHI BHAGAVAN
BRAHMAM, FOLLOWED BY THE EARTH.

And Chandogya Upanishad says  OM ITI YE TAT(BRAHMAM) AKSHARAM (LETTERS
ALPHABETS) ;UTGITAM UPASITE; AUM ITI YETI HRUDAYA GAYETI TASYOPA
VYAKYAANAM; the explanation of the words as sung from the heart.

   I.i.2) Eshaam bhutaanaam Prithivi rasah prithivyaa aapo rasah, Aapaa
moshadhayo rasa Aoushadhinaam purusho rasah purushasya vaak rasah, vaacha Rig
rasaah, Richaa Saama rasaah, Saamnaa Udgito rasah*/   { chandogya confirms
the rics of the Rig vedam; followed by the Vyakyanam, sung from the heart
as 2nd one as Sama ganam sama vedam. } *

  (Of these several entities, earth is of the essence, from earth water
is of essence, herbs and plants are of importance, human body is of
essence, the organ of Speech is of significance, from the vocal origin are
the Rigveda Mantras, Saamaveda Mantras and Udgita which indeed is Om being
of primacy too)

   I.i.3) *Sa esha rasaanaam rasatamah paramah paraar dhyo stamo
yad Udgitah/ *(Indeed Udgita, being the foremost of the Lord ‘s creation is
stated to be of the core of the essentials)

 I.i.4) *Katamaa katamaa Ruk, katamat katamaat Saama,katamaah
katama Udgita iti vimrishtam bhavati/ *(Again, Udgita is considered as Rig
Veda, which is Saama Veda, which again is Udgita!)

I.i.5) *Vaageva Ruk Praanah saamomiti etad aksharam Udgitah, Tadeva
etan mithunam yadvaak cha praanascha Rukcha Saamacha/ *(As the organ of
speech is Rigveda, Praana is Saama Veda and Om is Udgita, the synthesis of
Vaak and Praana or of Speech and Vital Force are like that of Rik and Saama
Vedas!)

  I.i.6) *Tadetan mithunam Omiti etasmin akshare samsrujyate yadaa
vai mithuinam samaagacchata aapayato vai

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There is no point expressing surprises; and the responder himself through
abuses had spoken 3rd rated words against the ancestors and even now; and
so the scriptures show eating meat by brahmins; and today majority brahmins
are all eaters. Vegetarianism and food are culture. Misinformation (s) ,
English etc are only written by one who has no stuff. Already I sent him a
rejoinder. If all of you can speak through verses etc @ contents what you
brag as true well. If you wish to draw swords, as I was doing , I won't
hesitate to repeat ONLY AFTER YOU -ALL. I can never be blamed since filth
came from you. KR IRS 7624

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From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 20:45
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE-
TIRUVALLA-FORWARD-1
To: iyer...@googlegroups.com 


Respected sir,

Mr Rajaram's  mail reads  from early Vedic period Brahmins ate meat. Now
also. *What a blunder?  *

*Even Gowda saraswatha Brahmins writes, they started eating fish, after a
famine, non vegetarian food to eat. *

 "Food is culture. Defying the culture and turning to vegetarianism is a
yagna". Turning to vegetarianism  is Yajna? He only can explain what he
means.

Refrain from sending misinformations?  Plural of information is information
itself. If I point out he will stamp me as* aviveki*.

It is  just a  response to Mr Narayanaswamy's response.
Gopalakrishnan


On Friday, 7 June, 2024 at 06:14:58 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear Sri Gopalakrishna

The notorious Thenkaali Ayyangaar who claims he knows everything but knows
nothing reveals explicitly that he himself, and presumably his families in
Chennai and in the USA, habitually ate, and continue to eat, non-vegetarian
food such as fish and meat.

His, and their, contention is,"*Food is culture*."

Which means that the cannibal Dayaks, Ibos, and Orang Asli of North Borneo,
and the primitives of Papua-New Guinea's Northeastern Highlands who
suffered kuru from eating human brains of their victims and died, were
highly cultured.

Which also means that we braahmanas who are vegetarians, study and chant
vedams, and perform poojas and homams to our deities, are uncultured.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:15 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:

May I have that site please to confirm fish and chapati naivedyam? On the
contrary I can prove through verses of smrithis that Brahmins of not only
west bengal or thenkalai -but all ate non vegetarians food. One of the
conditions of vanaprastha, in the forest is not to kill and continue the
eating of non veg food. Vegetarianism advocated by the Vedas was flouted by
so many brahmins in the vedic periods as well as now. Food is culture.
Defying the culture and turning to vegetarianism is a yagna. Hence in the
case of avivekam, restrain from sending misinformations. I have censored so
many subjects from giving out. It is not a parody. The ancestors spoke the
satyam. Spoke how people from every walk of life lived and got transformed.
May be 2024 history of Brahmins in large eating non vegetarian food may
also be written later. Let us not pretend and spread misinformation as if a
know-how which alone shall be shunned
KR IRS 6624

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From: *'gopala krishnan' via iyer123* 
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 00:10
Subject: Re: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE- TIRUVALLA-FORWARD-1
To: iyer...@googlegroups.com , Narayanaswamy Iyer



Sir,

I recollect the information read from Sri Rangam temple website if I
remember. How sir, either Thenkalai/Vadakakali will prepare chicken/fish
dish? They cannot.

I recollect reading else where a muslim lady doing all works outside
sanctum in a temple near Alleppy. I miss the name of the temple
Gopalakrishnan

On Thursday, 6 June, 2024 at 09:33:55 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:



Dear Sri Gopalakrishna

Thanks for your reply.  You say that "Chappathi is offered as neiveidhyam".

What I seem to remember, from the thaaththaa-paatti site years ago, is that
non-veg food such as fish and chicken are also so offered along with
chappaaththi at the Ranganaatha temple at Sri Rangam.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:14 AM gopala krishnan  wrote:

Sir,

Once Kerala was part of *Madras state. Hence these Divyadesams in present
Kerala*. The temples have mixed customs. In this temple towers are Kerala
style unlike Trivandrum Padmanbha swamy temple. Instead of Sudarsana
chakram, it is personified.

So as in the Vaishnava temple, there is Nachiyar. What I could make out.
The present day priests are either Tulu potties or Nampoothiries. Not any
Vaishavite iyengar priest, in any of the divyadesams in Kerala. About
Srivallabha, poojas are by Nampoothiri priests only.

Once the place Tiruvalla had a lot of Brahmin families, not agraharam. My
late Grandmother has told she was from Thalavati, near Tiruvalla.

Regarding nachair at

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;
and it should be understood us standing for the ‘*gojihvikā*’ (cabbage),
which is well-known among foresters,—and not for *anything grown on the
land*.

Mushrooms having been already forbidden before, their repented prohibition
in the present text is for the purpose of indicating that the eating of the
fragrant grass and other things involves the same Expiatory Rite as that of
mushrooms.

‘*Bhustṛṇa*’ (fragrant grass) and ‘*shigruka*’ (pot-herb) are the names of
particular kinds of herbs well known among cultivators—(14).

 *Explanatory notes by Ganganath Jha*

‘*Bhaumāni kavakāni*’—Medhātithi prefers to take the two separately—‘
*bhaumāni*’ being ‘the vegetable known among foresters’ as ‘*gojihvikā*’
and ‘*kavakāni*’ as ‘mushrooms’;—Govindarāja, Kullūka and Nārāyaṇa take the
two together ‘mushrooms growing on the ground.’

This verse is quoted in *Aparārka* (p. 942);—and in *Parāśaramādhava* (Ācāra,
p. 529), which explains ‘*Kavakāni*’ as ‘mushrooms.’

KR   A brahmin in Vanaprastha must avoid mamsam denotes that unless
there was an earlier food habit, there is no necessity to write in this
manner. Mamsam has a straight meaning.

More verse are in Yajur vedam krishna yaajur vedam, Rig Vedam wrt Indra. I
am not trying to publish it now. K Rajaram IRS 6624   7624

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From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 19:44
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE-
TIRUVALLA-FORWARD-1
To: iyer , gopala krishnan ,
Laxminarayan Sarma 
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer 

Dear Sri Gopalakrishna

The notorious Thenkaali Ayyangaar who claims he knows everything but knows
nothing reveals explicitly that he himself, and presumably his families in
Chennai and in the USA, habitually ate, and continue to eat, non-vegetarian
food such as fish and meat.

His, and their, contention is,"*Food is culture*."

Which means that the cannibal Dayaks, Ibos, and Orang Asli of North Borneo,
and the primitives of Papua-New Guinea's Northeastern Highlands who
suffered kuru from eating human brains of their victims and died, were
highly cultured.

Which also means that we braahmanas who are vegetarians, study and chant
vedams, and perform poojas and homams to our deities, are uncultured.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:15 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:

> May I have that site please to confirm fish and chapati naivedyam? On the
> contrary I can prove through verses of smrithis that Brahmins of not only
> west bengal or thenkalai -but all ate non vegetarians food. One of the
> conditions of vanaprastha, in the forest is not to kill and continue the
> eating of non veg food. Vegetarianism advocated by the Vedas was flouted by
> so many brahmins in the vedic periods as well as now. Food is culture.
> Defying the culture and turning to vegetarianism is a yagna. Hence in the
> case of avivekam, restrain from sending misinformations. I have censored so
> many subjects from giving out. It is not a parody. The ancestors spoke the
> satyam. Spoke how people from every walk of life lived and got transformed.
> May be 2024 history of Brahmins in large eating non vegetarian food may
> also be written later. Let us not pretend and spread misinformation as if a
> know-how which alone shall be shunned
> KR IRS 6624
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 00:10
> Subject: Re: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE- TIRUVALLA-FORWARD-1
> To: iyer...@googlegroups.com , Narayanaswamy
> Iyer 
>
>
> Sir,
>
> I recollect the information read from Sri Rangam temple website if I
> remember. How sir, either Thenkalai/Vadakakali will prepare chicken/fish
> dish? They cannot.
>
> I recollect reading else where a muslim lady doing all works outside
> sanctum in a temple near Alleppy. I miss the name of the temple
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Thursday, 6 June, 2024 at 09:33:55 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
> iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Sri Gopalakrishna
>
> Thanks for your reply.  You say that "Chappathi is offered as neiveidhyam".
>
> What I seem to remember, from the thaaththaa-paatti site years ago, is
> that non-veg food such as fish and chicken are also so offered along with
> chappaaththi at the Ranganaatha temple at Sri Rangam.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:14 AM gopala krishnan  wrote:
>
> Sir,
>
> Once Kerala was part of *Madras state. Hence these Divyadesams in present
> Kerala*. The temples have mixed customs. In this temple towers are Kerala
> style unlike Trivandrum Padmanbha swamy temple. Instead of Sudarsana
> chakram, it is personified.
>
> So as in the Vaishnava temple, there is Nachiyar. What I could make out.
> The present day priests are either Tulu potties or Nampoothiries. Not any
&

Scientists of the world samples who are religious also

Several European scientists throughout history have been both prominent in
their scientific fields and devoutly religious. Here are a few notable
examples:

*1. Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543)*

*Nationality*: Polish *Contribution to Science*: Copernicus formulated the
heliocentric model of the universe, placing the Sun at the center rather
than the Earth. *Religious Beliefs*: Copernicus was a canon in the Catholic
Church. His religious duties and beliefs did not hinder his scientific
inquiries.

*2. Johannes Kepler (1571–1630)*

*Nationality*: German *Contribution to Science*: Kepler is renowned for his
laws of planetary motion, which described the orbits of planets around the
Sun. *Religious Beliefs*: A devout Lutheran, Kepler saw his work as a quest
to understand God's geometric plan for the universe.

*3. Galileo Galilei (1564–1642)*

*Nationality*: Italian *Contribution to Science*: Galileo made major
advances in astronomy, including the improvement of the telescope and the
confirmation of heliocentrism. *Religious Beliefs*: Galileo was a committed
Catholic. Despite his conflicts with the Church over heliocentrism, he
never wavered in his faith.

*4. Isaac Newton (1642–1727)*

*Nationality*: English *Contribution to Science*: Newton formulated the
laws of motion and universal gravitation, profoundly impacting physics and
mathematics. *Religious Beliefs*: Newton was a deeply religious man who
wrote extensively on biblical subjects. He saw his scientific work as
revealing God’s design.

*5. Blaise Pascal (1623–1662)*

*Nationality*: French *Contribution to Science*: Pascal made significant
contributions to mathematics and physics, especially in the study of fluids
and probability. *Religious Beliefs*: After a profound religious
experience, Pascal became a devout Catholic and a member of the Jansenist
movement. He integrated his faith into his philosophical and scientific
work.

*6. Gregor Mendel (1822–1884)*

*Nationality*: Austrian *Contribution to Science*: Mendel founded the field
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friar and later abbot, balancing his religious duties with his scientific
research.

*7. Georges Lemaître (1894–1966)*

*Nationality*: Belgian *Contribution to Science*: Lemaître proposed the Big
Bang theory, describing the expansion of the universe from a primordial
point. *Religious Beliefs*: Lemaître was a Roman Catholic priest who saw no
conflict between his faith and his scientific work, viewing his discoveries
as uncovering the divine creation.

*8. Michael Faraday (1791–1867)*

*Nationality*: English *Contribution to Science*: Faraday made pioneering
discoveries in electromagnetism and electrochemistry. *Religious Beliefs*:
Faraday was a devout member of the Sandemanian Church, a Christian sect.
His faith deeply influenced his life and work ethic.

*9. James Clerk Maxwell (1831–1879)*

*Nationality*: Scottish *Contribution to Science*: Maxwell formulated the
classical theory of electromagnetic radiation, unifying electricity,
magnetism, and light. *Religious Beliefs*: Maxwell was a devout
Presbyterian. He saw his scientific work as uncovering the order and beauty
of God’s creation.

*10. Arthur Eddington (1882–1944)*

*Nationality*: English *Contribution to Science*: Eddington made
significant contributions to astrophysics, particularly in the
understanding of stars and general relativity. *Religious Beliefs*:
Eddington was a Quaker whose faith influenced his philosophical outlook on
science, seeing the pursuit of scientific truth as harmonious with
religious belief.

American scientists who were also religious

Many American scientists have also been deeply religious, successfully
integrating their scientific pursuits with their faith. Here are some
notable examples:

*1. Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790)*

*Contribution to Science*: Franklin made significant contributions to the
understanding of electricity, including the discovery of the lightning rod
and the concept of positive and negative charges. *Religious Beliefs*:
Franklin was a deist who believed in a Creator but was critical of
organized religion. He valued morality and virtue, which he saw as
essential aspects of religious belief.

*2. Joseph Henry (1797–1878)*

*Contribution to Science*: Henry was a pioneering physicist in
electromagnetism and the first Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution. He
discovered the phenomenon of self-induction and made advances in
electromagnets. *Religious Beliefs*: Henry was a devout Presbyterian. His
faith influenced his ethical views and his dedication to the advancement of
knowledge.

*3. Asa Gray (1810–1888)*

*Contribution to Science*: Gray was a leading American botanist who
supported Darwin’s theory of evolution while maintaining his religious
beliefs. *Religious Beliefs*: Gray was a devout Presbyterian. He saw no
conflict between science and religion, believing that evolution

Fwd: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 06-2024-06

CULTURAL QA 06202406

Q Q1 What is something interesting that you just learned?

KRAs usual a student sends some thinking without any
forethought which is here; residential in India AC may not be operating
below 18 or 25 maxima. But that is not at all logical, below 16 will go if
the weather outside is low; and nothing will happen. I have a Daikin; I
have Voltas; and I have   L G and Hitachi. I once used to have 4 fans and 2
AC s in my office through out below 18 and at home in winter even at 14.
All worked well. I gave the old one to charity at Tambaram. So this theory
is misinformation.

  No, not all air conditioners have limitations between 16 to 30
degrees Celsius settings only. While this range might be common in many air
conditioners, especially residential ones, there are also air conditioners
with wider temperature ranges. Some commercial or industrial air
conditioning systems might have broader settings to accommodate specific
needs or environments. Additionally, there are advanced models with more
precise temperature control options, allowing for finer adjustments outside
of this range.

   Internationally, many air conditioning manufacturers produce units
with wider temperature ranges. Brands like Daikin, Mitsubishi Electric,
Panasonic, LG, and Carrier offer models with diverse temperature settings
to cater to various climates and user preferences.

In India, several brands also offer air conditioners with a broader range
of temperature settings. Some popular ones include Voltas, Blue Star,
Hitachi, Godrej, and Carrier. These brands often have models designed
specifically for the Indian market, which may include features tailored to
the country's climate conditions.  K Rajaram IRS  6624   7624

NB Skin will become dry and for a few, breathings may be difficult
also. Had to use skin creams and nose blockers removals. Paraffin Wax will
do.

-

Q2 Why does today's world not have scientists like Einstein, Tesla,
or Newton?

KRIt is a good question but a backward answer is chosen. First
of all, what is the yardstick to say 1 Newton was the greatest? Einstein
was a magnum opus? A millennium scientist. As we see here, SUJATHA. Some
might have been thinking I am partial or biased. NO.

When M S Viswanathan was a music director without knowing to
write musical notes either here or western 2 with variable mike strength
unable to precisely cut the mix 3 forcibly practising by percussions,
strings and the rest apart from the vocalists, 4 waiting for their
call-sheets 5 trying hard only in Harmoniums, in creating a tune 6 hearing
the perfect chorus is impossible  7 and fixing the relevant instruments
only by trial and error and 8 producer , director pressure for shoot, apart
from problem with and without Kannadasan, grand tunes were made. And all
must play together and every dur swaras will have to start from the
beginning. Records must be churned for adjustments where a Radio Engineer
is a must. And today you people do not equate MSV with Einstein or M D
Ramanathan or Beethoven with Newton level. But say Ilaya Raja and A R
Rahman. Now everything can be separately made and punched. Even a single
violinist can play his 10 places separately and go for an Australian live
music program. Radio Eng is not that bad need. Even the music director may
fix it with software. Can take 10 versions from vocalists and mix. Any
lapses can be set off by software and laptop. But jumping like for IR and
AR, Sankar Jaikishan went dead for one Sangam tune, so tough.

   Akarshana shakti was known in India and a lot of verses speak about
it but no one tells them as a pioneer. Newton said it wrongly. Einstein did
not know 90%. But we say big things about them. The applications were based
only on them after a lot of corrections which many scientists later did.
But we don’t remember their names. So let us appreciate their genius
brains. Let us also see the tiredness of the many scientists whose works
will be or will not be known as great after 100 years. Newton Einstein is
dicing a chance by karma to be popular. Others we are not bothered today;
but might remember in 3025 AD. So Q is Good, AQ is irrelevant. All are
scientists who scratch their brains. I may attribute it as SUJATHA-SYNDROME.

 Comparing Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein with contemporary
scientists can be a bit challenging because they lived in different eras
and made contributions to different areas of science. However, it's not
uncommon to draw comparisons between historical figures like Newton and
Einstein and modern scientists in terms of their impact, influence, and the
significance of their contributions to science.



Isaac Newton laid the foundation for classical mechanics and the laws of
motion in the 17th century with his work "Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia
Mathematica." His laws of motion and

Re: [iyer123] NDA swearing in

*THE Yoga and star are not progressive; no action can be initiated on a
TURUVADIRAI STAR AND YOGAM IS GANGNAM. 9TH IS PUNARPOOSAM AND VRIDHI YOGA.
EVEN PARLIAMENT IS DISSOLVED bjp WILL COME AGAIN Sunday sun is friendly
away from father . I bet the record may go upto 4th, 5th and even 5th.
Congress will be nowhere. Also many in INDIA may change sides in due
course. And the best time for raids. KR IRS 6624  7624

On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 10:18, Rama  wrote:

> Kerala Astrologers suggest swearing in on 8th June not auspicious for NDA
> Hence they seem to have postponed to June 9th
>
> Cheers
> Rama
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Fwd: [iyer123] A small proposal

And another dishonest pomp, unaware of any subjects, writes "honest and
informative". Perhaps he means fish eating chapatis of his kind in
barracks,  Pancharatra agama is different from Vidhanam, like reels and
reels? Vidhanam, Vidhi, sastram, Vedas, suktham etc cannot be written as if
authority when strong literature heads had written about them; and in that
stuff , only when read thoroughly, one can say, how self interpretations
are interwoven; and for that some basic knowledge is needed to understand
or even sip and add more to it. But idiots of the first order who runa
wonderful civilisation, will find it only as  Greek and Latin.   No one can
write from outside. And all that is written with the stamp of some persons
are only ditto quoted from the earlier versions of that era. Only he who
has read a lot can come down from his ignorance to understand. Rest will be
jibing at without any purpose and some civilisation some poor soul will try
to make out forever. I do not claim I wrote the Rig veda but I do
claim that it was elicited with various interpretations and woven in my
style. The idiot who cannot distinguish THE OIL EXTRACTOR and THE
SHIVALINGAM does not have any fitness even to think about it. K Rajaram
IRS 6624

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From: Laxminarayan Sarma 
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 09:02
Subject: Re: [iyer123] A small proposal
To: 
Cc: 


Anything honest and informative is welcome as long it is not like the
cooy-paste crap stuff dumped on us by some pompous, mentally tetarded ,
argumentative , disruotive uncouth jerk  of a mentally retarded
psycho...who claims authorship of the stuff he posts

On Thu, 6 Jun, 2024, 4:42 pm 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I understand sir, Thank you
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Thursday, 6 June, 2024 at 03:05:22 pm IST, Indian R <
> indianred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> This proposal is for everyone. And there are NO restrictions on the number
> of posts anyone can make in a single day. So please feel free to post as
> many times as you wish.
>
> Sai
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 10:16:35 PM UTC-4 gopala krishnan wrote:
>
> Respected Mr Sai,
>
> I can surely re-arrange questions and answers I compile and post  from
> Quora on different topics as topic wise. But reading may not be interesting
> to some. I will try particular topics as desired  for a few days.
>
> I have again started posting on temples as first  posting of the day.  I
> restrict my postings to two maximum.
>
> Thank you for writing to me.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Thursday, 6 June, 2024 at 07:11:50 am IST, Indian R <
> indian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Gopala Krishnan sir,
>
> I see that sometimes we have a tendency to post a lot of different,
> unconnected articles in a single email.
>
> I would like to propose the following. Could you try to post each topic as
> a separate email? The advantage with that is that if anyone wants to
> respond to a single topic, they can do so, without having the remaining
> topics intruding. Of course, the disadvantage is that the original poster
> (yourself - Dear Gopala Krishnan sir) will have to write many emails.
>
> This is just a thought - please experiment to see if this works out well.
>
> Sincerely,
> Your humble moderator
> Sai
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Fwd: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE- TIRUVALLA-FORWARD-1

May I have that site please to confirm fish and chapati naivedyam? On the
contrary I can prove through verses of smrithis that Brahmins of not only
west bengal or thenkalai -but all ate non vegetarians food. One of the
conditions of vanaprastha, in the forest is not to kill and continue the
eating of non veg food. Vegetarianism advocated by the Vedas was flouted by
so many brahmins in the vedic periods as well as now. Food is culture.
Defying the culture and turning to vegetarianism is a yagna. Hence in the
case of avivekam, restrain from sending misinformations. I have censored so
many subjects from giving out. It is not a parody. The ancestors spoke the
satyam. Spoke how people from every walk of life lived and got transformed.
May be 2024 history of Brahmins in large eating non vegetarian food may
also be written later. Let us not pretend and spread misinformation as if a
know-how which alone shall be shunned
KR IRS 6624

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From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 00:10
Subject: Re: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE- TIRUVALLA-FORWARD-1
To: iyer...@googlegroups.com , Narayanaswamy Iyer



Sir,

I recollect the information read from Sri Rangam temple website if I
remember. How sir, either Thenkalai/Vadakakali will prepare chicken/fish
dish? They cannot.

I recollect reading else where a muslim lady doing all works outside
sanctum in a temple near Alleppy. I miss the name of the temple
Gopalakrishnan

On Thursday, 6 June, 2024 at 09:33:55 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:



Dear Sri Gopalakrishna

Thanks for your reply.  You say that "Chappathi is offered as neiveidhyam".

What I seem to remember, from the thaaththaa-paatti site years ago, is that
non-veg food such as fish and chicken are also so offered along with
chappaaththi at the Ranganaatha temple at Sri Rangam.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:14 AM gopala krishnan  wrote:

Sir,

Once Kerala was part of *Madras state. Hence these Divyadesams in present
Kerala*. The temples have mixed customs. In this temple towers are Kerala
style unlike Trivandrum Padmanbha swamy temple. Instead of Sudarsana
chakram, it is personified.

So as in the Vaishnava temple, there is Nachiyar. What I could make out.
The present day priests are either Tulu potties or Nampoothiries. Not any
Vaishavite iyengar priest, in any of the divyadesams in Kerala. About
Srivallabha, poojas are by Nampoothiri priests only.

Once the place Tiruvalla had a lot of Brahmin families, not agraharam. My
late Grandmother has told she was from Thalavati, near Tiruvalla.

Regarding nachair at Sri Rangam temple , a muslim lady idol, I have *read
about it.* Chappathi is offered as Neivedyam. She was a devotee of Sri
Ranganatha. Unlike *Aandal,* whether she is absorbed to Sri Ranganatha idol
is not clear. Other information also not known to me. Most visit Sri
Ranganatha and Thayar. There is battery operated vehicle for transport for
elders in the sprawling 100 acreas area to Thayar sannidhi.

These are the best information I can provide.
Gopalakrishnan

Present day worshippers are local Hindus.I am not sure any iyengar families
are  in Tiruvalla. It is a place with  more than 50% christian population
now.

On Thursday, 6 June, 2024 at 06:20:25 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:



Dear Sri Gopalakrishna

Just a small query or two.  You write:-

"*I visited Sreevallabha temple at Truvalla. It is one among the 12
Divyadesams in Kerala. It was the first time I was visiting the temple.*

*"Thayar: Selvathirukozhunthu Nachiyar, Vaatsalya Devi."*

(1)  My recollection is that "Thaayaar" and  "Selva-thiru-kozhunthu" are
neither Malayalam nor Sanskrit words.  They come from Jaffna Tamil
practices.  "Thaayar" means "mother", selva", "thiru" and "kozhunthu" mean,
respectively, "precious", "sri" and "baby".  What are they doing in Kerala?

(2)  Moreover, "Naachiyaar" is also a foreign language word in Kerala.

(3)  In thatha-paatti website I remember reading that in the prestigious
Veera Vaishnavaite Sri Ranganaatha temple on an island in the Kaaveri
River, there is
a shrine to a Musllim lady called Naachiyaar next to the main shrine of Sri
Ranganathar.

(4)  It is a regular practice in that temple that, after all the lights are
Veera extinguished and the entry doors are closed, the idols of the Muslim
lady and of Sri Ranganathar are secretly conveyed to another room within
the temple where they spend the night.  Before dawn the following day, both
idols are secretly removed to their original sites.

Kidly clarify, if you can.  Thanks.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 2:04 PM 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE- TIRUVALLA**-FORWARD-1*

*Dear friends,*

*When we went for an inspection of Tiruvalla Exchange in 2004 middle, my
colleague Mr Sankara Narayanan and I visited Sreevallabha temple at
Truvalla. It is one among the 12

Re: Fwd - Wise Sayings - in Tamizh

And one more Practice what we preach and Karka kasadara katrapin nirka
adarkkuth thaga. Learrn well and stand deliver. KR IRS 6624

On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 07:25, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
wrote:

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> Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2024, 4:24 PM
> Subject: Fwd - Wise Sayings - in Tamizh
> To: Kerala Iyer , Rangarajan T.N.C. <
> tncrangara...@yahoo.com>, Chittanandam V. R. ,
> Mathangi K. Kumar , Narayanaswamy Sekar <
> nsekar...@gmail.com>, APS Mani , Srinivasan Sridharan <
> sridhsriniva...@gmail.com>, SRIRAMAJAYAM , Rama (Iyer
> 123 Group) 
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Re: Fwd- Worth pondering over, where sre they and where are we?

The article where minority muslims are and where the majority Hindus are is
a formidable question. We are all aged now. We would have seen so many by
this time. Delhi, Mumbai, Calcutta based regional language and brahmin and
others etc community of minority, to safeguard their interests will obey
the secretary even if he directs them to vote for DMK, Shiva sena or TMC.
This happened in TN Rajaji out of anger said that. Mylapore did it once,
defeating S V Sekar.  In foreign countries, similarly minority nationals
including Indians, stand united. Why after all a small group here and abide
by the instructions received ,in spite of their status, knowledge etc.
Minority , clan seekers, language pride, creeds of some places, old
pallies, so many affinity think, they are so secured by abiding.
Kouravas including Bhishma, Drona and Kripa were only like that. Such a
crowd including the groups will not hesitate to throw stones on Gandhi or
call someone's mother derogatorily also. After doing all these they will
speak so tall on justice and dharma also . Where are they? People say , I
make many uncomfortable, because I speak the truth and take the path of
questioning the unrighteousness. That day when all take that into the
hearts, dharmic voting will come up. Samples are among us. One writes that
there is a Ranaganatha site where he read fish is eaten by Tenkalai
iyengar; another says chapati offered; one more says that Ranganather went
to bed with thulukka nachiyar; and all are silent about it. Where are they?
Samples start from a small number. People who swallow crow-bar and to
digest it drink Sukku water even at such late age ,silently sitting in
majority-allowing only the minority to call a spade a spade, must think it
over. Or else, next janma will teach all. K Rajaram  IRS 6624

On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 07:36, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: N Sekar 
> Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2024, 4:28 PM
> Subject: Fwd- Worth pondering over, where sre they and where are we?
> To: Kerala Iyer , Rangarajan T.N.C. <
> tncrangara...@yahoo.com>, Chittanandam V. R. ,
> Mathangi K. Kumar , Narayanaswamy Sekar <
> nsekar...@gmail.com>, APS Mani , Srinivasan Sridharan <
> sridhsriniva...@gmail.com>, SRIRAMAJAYAM , Rama (Iyer
> 123 Group) 
>
>
>
>
> As Election Results are getting finalised, my respect for Muslims as
> Community has increased 1%.
>
> There is no gap between their conceptualization, strategy and execution.
>
> Their leaders decide where the votes should be cast and it get's cast
> there exactly. At a deadly 95% + accuracy.
>
> Even in 1946, when there was no internet or modern communication they
> polled 96% for the partition of the country.
>
> If the EC is to be commended for executing the world's largest elections -
> Indian muslims have to be lauded for the biggest execution of vote bloc in
> the world.
>
> Prices of potato, road, street lights, water, liquor, freebies etc etc , a
> fraction of which is enough to sway the normal Hindu voter - never sways a
> muslim voter.
>
> Summer heat which stops the Hindu voter from voting is never a factor for
> the muslim voters. Nor do they take the leave to go for a vacation.
>
> The candidate selection also never seems to deter the muslim voters, even
> if they do not like the candidate at the booth - they never hesitates to
> punch the button for their religion.
>
> Right now when Hindus are giving justification for how BJP let down Hindu
> voter. Hindus need to understand the irreversible damage they have done to
> their credibility by this verdict. No other political body will trust them
> and will rush to muslim votes.
>
> And muslims have a simply repeated a consistent pattern which makes them a
> formidable vote bank.
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
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Fwd: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE –THIRUVALLA. PART2 –FORWARD

While trying to work out well, either should read whether one likes or not
this morning only I wrote wrt Para 20 of the writer ""Pancharatra School of
Vaishnava Pooja" in the Temple I the system followed; Mangala sasanam by
Tirumangai Azhwar and Nammazhwar. . Pooja could be performed only by a
Karanma Santhi having hereditary competence and right as far as the Temple
is concerned. The conduct of poojas in the Devaswom Temples are devised
mainly as per the principles contained in Tantric Texts. The authority in
this field could be traced to the text "Tantra Samuchayam" written by
Brahma Sree Chennad Manackal Narayanan Namboodirippadu in the year 1427.
According to the Tantri, various poojas conducted in Sree Vallabha Maha Temple
are unique and rare. The poojas are conducted according to the "Yajanavali
Text" on the basis of Pancharatra System contained in Sree Durvasa Samhita.
Special Type of poojas are not being conducted in other temples under the
Travancore Devaswom Board and close similarity could be seen as far as the
poojas in Sree Poornathrayeesa Temple, Tripunithura is concerned. The
unique and salient features of the conduct of poojas in Sree Vallabha Maha
Temple are available in Chapter 21 of the book "Sree Vallabha Maha Kshetra
Charithram" published by Sri. P. Unnikrishnan Nair. Certain extracts from
the book "Thulasiharam" written by Smt. Aswathi Thirunal Gouri Lakshmi
Bai. According
to the complainants, there are altogether five families, who were having
karanma right for functioning as Melsanthi in Sree Vallabha Maha Temple.
Those families are (1) Ambly, (2) Annankala, (3) Karakkadu, (4) Sreevelli
and (5) Nedumbrathu Cherukudal. For about more than 17 years, none from the
above families has worked as Karanma Melsanthies in the above Temple.
During the above period, the persons who are employees of Devaswom Board
were functioning as Melsanthies in the Temple. According to the Thantri,
those persons were told about the unique and salient features of the
Pancharaatra system of poojas in the Temple while they were initiated
before assuming charge as Melsanthi in the Temple. The complainant Vishnu
Narayanan Namboodiri made a proposal for being appointed as Melsanthi. A
view of temple :  https://youtu.be/DzftjaozlwYOnme of 108 khetras  @
Valabha sheramKRAJARAM IRS 5624   6624:
ii   Pancharatra vidhanaam if distinguishable as he alleged, that
difference should have been explained; there are 11 mangala sasana , divya
desam in kerala, pure vaishnav sthalam. Nambudri cannot alter the system of
agama vidhis. It need not be only iyengars must be there to follow the puja
worship.   I have said clearly Yagna valkya system giving a you tube video
also. By writing , unaware of the things being carried out clearly , a self
proclaimed daata is printed which may be referred by some , even after a
decade, thinking it as correct. No one can
exceed whether iyer or Ayyangar or tantric Nambudri or north Indian
priests; they had to abide by Sri Ramanuja system


*Sri Pancharatra Agama*

The Panchrathra are Vaishnava Sanskrit Agamic texts. The Pancharatra Agamas
constitute the most important texts of the Sri Vaishnava Sampradaya of
Ramanuja. Composed of more than 200 texts; they are believed to have been
compiled around the 3rd century BC,

Since ancient times, the worship of Lord Vishnu is strictly according to
the principles and practices laid out in the Pancharathra.

*Six aspects of Surrender in the Pancharathra*

Surrender to god is one of the core teachings of Pancharathra.

i) Atma-Nikshepa or Nyaasa - placing oneself completely and directly under
God's care.

ii) Kaarpannya - absolute humility, and honest awareness of one's own
natural ignorance, impurity etc

iii) Mahaa-Visvaasa - irrepressible and great faith in God. Understanding
that God is the benefactor of all beings, and His compassion is always and
readily available. The firm conviction that He will not fail to protect us.

iv) Goptrr - recognition of Lord Sri Narayan as the sole Protector.

v) Praatikulya-Vivarjana - giving up whatever is antagonistic to any of His
creations or to Him.
vi) Anukulya-Niscaya - The resolve to do good to all beings.

 Pancharatra texts are Vaishnava Agama Shastras,
the name pancharatra literally means 'five nights', since these scriptures
were revealed by Sage Narayana  in
5 Nights to all the Rishis. Sage Narayana was so generous to us humans that
he preserved ancient Ekayana shakha of Shukla Yajurveda and created agamas
out of it so that everybody irrespective of caste creed sexuality could
worship Shriman Naryana, and realize the truth that he is the Supreme Being.
 SYV is that of Yajnavalkya.
ccording to tradition, there are 108 Vaiṣṇava
Pāñcarātra texts. However, there are more than 200 texts. These are also
known as Saṁhitās. Here is the list of printed texts

Re: [KeralaIyers] sujatha ananthan from FB Iyer group

On conduct there are 2 types of brahmins; one learned and full of
refined characters; another in a minority full of shudra attitude. Making
people think that they are so orthodox; feign addicted to sandhya
vandhanam, vedha saakas etc ; on the other side talk ill of Veda bhashya;
temple Gods as sleeping with etc. Because of literacy in such people , I
will turn the table again without knowing anything. I have a colleague who
is a vaishnavite; but does not even know what is meant by vaishnava
sthalam, or how azhwars have written verses( mangala sasanam)  on those
deities. If he does not get darshan at SriRangam, he will talk ill of
Ranganathar. I had to tell him Tamil Nadu (84), Kerala (11), Uttar Pradesh
(4), Uttarakhand (3), Andhra Pradesh (2) and Gujarat (1), and the country
of Nepal (1) (Muktinath). And vaikuntam and thiruparkadal no one knows.
Incidentally yesterday one divya desam was written here from Kerala. We
have such brahmins who spoil the society and the elections also . Licking
out of fear of someone's feet. KR IRS 5624 6624

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 22:52, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Obvious-Shameless Cowards and Selfish completely.
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Bala N. Aiyer  wrote:
>
>> These guys are saying and also doing everything to eliminate Sanatana
>> Dharmam, Hindu Temples and Brahmins in every walk of life.
>> Still there are people, who call themselves Brahmins, and go to support
>> them, vote for them and lick their feet and shoes - what do you all say
>> about them.
>>
>> Bala N. Aiyer
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 07:28:30 PM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Its indecent but the effect is sharp So many appear written by Iyers KR
>> IRS 6624
>> Sujatha Ananthan
>> <https://www.facebook.com/sujatha.ananthan?__cft__[0]=AZVGJQjRtS9TBhdAbAEEoBeScpIYnYeOzY51zTdgEf7bhFD-sPGTX2Wbdp7p6t-MxjTdlUyLiTfe3cZ5tvexZUJ_Ux6GXZMq_quprLQIb9-xZbyeWMiaQbsoYqzTG61DgWjsoCZIiDyc9qewv-Qaitpyt--hj0rTvSE6eBHY5ZsmaBlzPEjRF9zbcKHnT1VxcXc&__tn__=-UC%2CP-y-R>
>> oSerotdpnst84fff7f4676hm149fff2g2al0ullt2hc27h9ch9g37f0fgtu8
>> <https://www.facebook.com/sujatha.ananthan/posts/pfbid0RkwGTRFVRFanKRmiJUnbzhckAmJwLYkDqwUAbAcYeJdMwrNXbTGuTjNEmH4W2heMl?__cft__[0]=AZVGJQjRtS9TBhdAbAEEoBeScpIYnYeOzY51zTdgEf7bhFD-sPGTX2Wbdp7p6t-MxjTdlUyLiTfe3cZ5tvexZUJ_Ux6GXZMq_quprLQIb9-xZbyeWMiaQbsoYqzTG61DgWjsoCZIiDyc9qewv-Qaitpyt--hj0rTvSE6eBHY5ZsmaBlzPEjRF9zbcKHnT1VxcXc&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-y-R>
>>   ·
>> குடிதண்ணியில்
>> #மலத்தை
>> <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%88?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZVGJQjRtS9TBhdAbAEEoBeScpIYnYeOzY51zTdgEf7bhFD-sPGTX2Wbdp7p6t-MxjTdlUyLiTfe3cZ5tvexZUJ_Ux6GXZMq_quprLQIb9-xZbyeWMiaQbsoYqzTG61DgWjsoCZIiDyc9qewv-Qaitpyt--hj0rTvSE6eBHY5ZsmaBlzPEjRF9zbcKHnT1VxcXc&__tn__=*NK-y-R>
>> கலந்தாலும்,
>> #சாணிய
>> <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A3%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZVGJQjRtS9TBhdAbAEEoBeScpIYnYeOzY51zTdgEf7bhFD-sPGTX2Wbdp7p6t-MxjTdlUyLiTfe3cZ5tvexZUJ_Ux6GXZMq_quprLQIb9-xZbyeWMiaQbsoYqzTG61DgWjsoCZIiDyc9qewv-Qaitpyt--hj0rTvSE6eBHY5ZsmaBlzPEjRF9zbcKHnT1VxcXc&__tn__=*NK-y-R>
>> கரைச்சிபோட்டாலும்,
>> #கஞ்சா
>> <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%9E%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BE?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZVGJQjRtS9TBhdAbAEEoBeScpIYnYeOzY51zTdgEf7bhFD-sPGTX2Wbdp7p6t-MxjTdlUyLiTfe3cZ5tvexZUJ_Ux6GXZMq_quprLQIb9-xZbyeWMiaQbsoYqzTG61DgWjsoCZIiDyc9qewv-Qaitpyt--hj0rTvSE6eBHY5ZsmaBlzPEjRF9zbcKHnT1VxcXc&__tn__=*NK-y-R>
>> வித்தாலும்.
>> #போதைபொருள்
>> <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8B%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8A%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZVGJQjRtS9TBhdAbAEEoBeScpIYnYeOzY51zTdgEf7bhFD-sPGTX2Wbdp7p6t-MxjTdlUyLiTfe3cZ5tvexZUJ_Ux6GXZMq_quprLQIb9-xZbyeWMiaQbsoYqzTG61DgWjsoCZIiDyc9qewv-Qaitpyt--hj0rTvSE6eBHY5ZsmaBlzPEjRF9zbcKHnT1VxcXc&__tn__=*NK-y-R>
>> வித்தாலும்
>> #அப்பனோட
>> <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8B%E0%AE%9F?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZVGJQjRtS9TBhdAbAEEoBeScpIYnYeOzY51zTdgEf7bhFD-sPGTX2Wbdp7p6t-MxjTdlUyLiTfe3cZ5tvexZUJ_Ux6GXZMq_quprLQIb9-xZbyeWMiaQbsoYqzTG61DgWjsoCZIiDyc9qewv-Qaitpyt--hj0rTvSE6eBHY5ZsmaBlzPEjRF9zbcKHnT1VxcXc&__tn__=*NK-y-R>
>> பேரை பூரா இடங்களுக்கு வெச்சாலும்
>> #வீல்_கழண்ட
>> <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B4%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZVGJQjRtS9TBhdAbAEEoBeScpIYnYeOzY51zTdgEf7bhFD-sPGTX2Wbdp7p6t-MxjTdlUyLiTfe3cZ5tvexZUJ_Ux6GXZMq_quprLQIb9-xZbyeWMiaQbsoYqzTG61DgW

Re:

I learn from you and so it is mutual KR IRS

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 22:15, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rajaram Sir,
> Thank you very much.To respond to your enlightening and perception
> provoking responses one needs great learning.Unfortunately I am not so
> learned.
> YM
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 7:59 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the intricate web of life, every species plays a unique role in
>> maintaining ecosystem harmony. Human activities, such as deforestation,
>> pollution, and habitat destruction, disrupt this delicate balance, leading
>> to ecological imbalances and biodiversity loss. By recognizing our
>> interconnectedness with nature, humans can strive to live in harmony with
>> the Earth, embracing sustainable practices that support the health and
>> vitality of ecosystems.
>>
>> Indigenous cultures around the world possess deep ecological knowledge
>> passed down through generations, rooted in a profound understanding of
>> divine symbiosis. These cultures offer valuable insights into sustainable
>> living practices, resource management, and spiritual reverence for nature.
>> By embracing indigenous wisdom and incorporating it into modern society,
>> humanity can learn to coexist with nature in a more harmonious and
>> sustainable way.
>>
>> As stewards of the Earth, humans have a sacred responsibility to care for
>> the planet and all its inhabitants. This stewardship involves not only
>> protecting natural resources for future generations but also cultivating a
>> sense of reverence and gratitude for the gifts of the Earth. By embracing
>> our role as caretakers of the planet, humanity can work towards restoring
>> balance and healing the wounds inflicted upon the natural world.
>>
>> Divine symbiosis invites us to recognize the interconnectedness of all
>> life and to honor the sacred relationship between humanity and nature. By
>> fostering a deeper understanding of our interdependence, cultivating
>> spiritual reverence for the natural world, embracing sustainable practices,
>> and assuming our role as stewards of the Earth, we can work towards a more
>> harmonious and balanced relationship with nature. In doing so, we not only
>> ensure our own survival but also preserve the beauty and diversity of life
>> for generations to come.
>>
>> {“Theism means the gigantic abstract flow of symbiotic rapture, on the
>> surface of the earth, the basic feature of earth’s geography. If one enters
>> the lush and free forest with the basic faith that every organism actually
>> helps, that symbiosis rules the lives of all organisms, then Theism grows
>> in one naturally and spontaneously. Your faith is smelt and sensed by every
>> organism, which exhales in smells and informs their welcome. In nature
>> communication is not in words but in feelings, sounds and tunes of nature
>> all of which are part of the air.”}   NO GAINSAY about it, yet today no one
>> is in the forest but lives only in the concrete Jungles. And of course,
>> there is no suicide there but animal killing all in needs of food.
>>
>> {“God is not in any sacred religious text. In free nature God or Theism
>> grows with age, every nano second in every organism. Musics and Dances
>> sprout in great Biospheric symphonies.”}  A wonderful refined thinking,
>> imagining the olden days of Aranya living. However, all the bhaktas are
>> only living in the city. Modern life with the machines, Plants (Not Aranya)
>> and whatnots. Bhakti, worship, breathing are all nothing to do with the
>> olden styles as we have crossed the bridges. Even if KRISHNA were to be
>> here, HE has to cope with all these.
>>
>> {“There is a need for comparison studies about the happiness of those who
>> live in free nature with those that live in big cities. Suicides do not
>> happen in thick forests and no organism has psychological problems.”}
>> Happiness dwells in the minds. Living is not a criterion for happiness.
>> Sat-Chit-Ananda can arise anywhere.
>>
>> {“Today thanks to science, technology, mechanization, industrialization
>> and urbanization and total pollution, we believe only in machines and not
>> in nature.”}   Not exactly. As we thank science, we have to hang the
>> disbelievers of life with nature. Science never prompted nor any university
>> to use the atom for the bombardments only. As everyone closes the doors,
>> when we cite the rowdies and the Hooligans, by way of security, we use a
>> positive knowledge also for our own security; if the nations do

SANATANA DHARMA PART 44 K RAJARAM IRS 56624 6624

SANATANA DHARMA PART 44   K RAJARAM IRS   56624 6624

Mandukyopanishad:

*Om ity eyed aksharam idam sarvam tasyopavyaakhyaanam bhutam bhavad
bhavishyad iti sarvam omkaara eva yac chaanyat trikaalaateetam tadapi
omkaara eva// *

*Sarvam hyetad Brahma, ayam aatmaa Brahma, soyam aatmaa chathushpaat/*

 ( The most Sacred Word is the exposition of the Universe in totality and
the ‗Kaala maana‘ or the Past-Present-Future . *Tasya upavyaakhyaanam *or
that - Om- is indeed the visual exhibition and elucidation of the
yesterday-today -and tomorrow! *Sarvametad Brahma *or this Om is all about
Brahman; *Ayam aatmaa Brahma *or the Self is Brahman too.

 Obviously thus OM and Brahman and Self are all the same. And this
equation has *chatushpaad *or four feet or quarters described as
Vishva-Taijasa-Praajna and Turiya, all merging in succesive stages) namely!

Maandukyas VIII- XI:

*Soyam aatmaadhyaksharam aumkaarodhimaatram paadaa maatraa
maatraashchapaadaa akaara ukaara makaara iti/ *( *Omityedaksharam idam
Sarvam! *The Singular Word AUM signifying the entirety of Universe and
Beyond! The Self is described as the four quarters of Vishvanara, Taijasa,
Prajna, and the Atman or the Pure Consciousness; as identified with Bliss.
This Word A-U-M is *Aatma-Adhyaksharam-Adhimaatram *or symbolic of Atma-the
Akshara or the Eternal Syllable of Omkaara-and the Adhimaatram or the
Quintessence of Vedas and the Letters identified with the Vijnana or
Knowledge *par excellence *namely!



 Maandukya XII-the Ultimate:

*Amaatrascha turyo avyavahaaryah prapanchopashamah shivodvaita evam
Aumkaara aatmaiva samvishati aatmanaatmaanam ya evam veda ya evam veda/ Om
Shantih, Shantih, Shantih// *( ‗Amaatrascha turyo‘ or the totally
integrated and unified Pranava Mantra A-U-M is thus the Grand Finale or the
Ultimate Truth comprising all the quarters of the Atman the Self
Consciousness viz. Vishvanara-Taijasa-Praajna viz. the Highest and the
Fourth State of Turiya; the Absolute Self is Avyavahaaryah or beyond
experiential or empirical situations, prapanchopashamah or the Finality of
Universal Existence or the Limit of Ignorance and Non Reality, Shivah or
the Beginnings of Total Auspiciousness, Advaitam or the Realisation of
‗Taadaatmya‘ or Non Duality being the merger point of the Vaishvanara being
the Totality of All the Units or Reflections of Individual Selves or the
Universal Self and the Supreme ie. Atmanaatmaanam eva and the Climactic
Merger and Unification! Indeed, OM the Self finally enters that very Self!
He who becomes aware of this Self Realisation becomes the Almighty
Himself!) Gaudapada Kaarikas on Maandukya XII -G.K.24-26: *Omkaaram
paadashah Vidyaat paadaa maatraa na shamshayah,Omkaaram paadashah jnaatvaa
na kinchadapi chintayet// Yunjeeta pranavo chetah pranavo Brahma nirbhayam,
Pranavo nityayuktasya na bhayam vidhyate kvachit// Pranavo hyaaparam Brahma
praavascha Parah smritah, Apurvonantaro baahyah aparah Pranavovyayah//*

(As ‗Omkaara‘ is to be realised quarter by quarter or by the
designations of Vishva-Taijasa- Praajnya-Turiya as indeed they are all
ramifications of the composite Self, there indeed is no other knowledge or
its pursuit needed as all the desires and material aspirations are met
totally besides the spiritual requirements are fulfilled too. One needs
however to concentrate or ‗ yunijeeta cheta pranave brahma nirbhayam‘ or
fix one‘s mind in stability on Omkaara the embodiment of Brahman. Then
pranavo nityayuktasya na bhayam vidyate kvachit: or Pranava shields and
safeguards fear or disasters any where and always.



G.K. 27-29) *Sarvasya Pranavo hyaadirmadhyayantarasthaiva cha, Eva hi
Pranavam jnaatvaa vyashnute tadanantaram// Pranavam hyeshvaram vidyaat
sarvasya hridi samshitam,Sarva vyaapi namoshankaram matvaa dheero na
shochati// Amaatronantamaatrascha dvitasyopashamah Shivah, Omkaaro vidito
yena sa munirnetaro janah// *(OM is ‗sarvasya‘ or ‗Adi-Madhya-Anta‘ of the
synthesis of the Beginning-Sustenance-Dissolution of the the Universe but
yet again is also the antithesis of Life and Death syndrome as
‗Vyaktaavyakta‘ phenomenon of Revelation and Non Existence like magic or
hallucination. Pranavam Ishvaram vidyat/ or be it known that Pranava is
another manifestation of Paramatma Ishvara; He is right within one‘s own
heart or in the hearts of all the Beings in Srishti as the hearts are the
high seats of perceptions, memories, and action-reaction controllers.
Indeed, that is the place worthy of prayers, supplications, and worship as
that Reality is in the Self Itself! Omkaaram sarva vyapinam or is Omni
Present; Dheero na shochati! He who realises perfectly being the Truly
Enlightened One is never subject to any grief and is ever joyful AUM is the
true reflection of Srishi the Universe.



Atharvana Upanishad states: *Sarvaan praanaan paramatmani
pranaamayateeti pranavah/ *Once Pranava recital is taken up then the
‗dehendriya praana mano buddhi‘ or the body parts, life‘s energy, the

Re:

In the intricate web of life, every species plays a unique role in
maintaining ecosystem harmony. Human activities, such as deforestation,
pollution, and habitat destruction, disrupt this delicate balance, leading
to ecological imbalances and biodiversity loss. By recognizing our
interconnectedness with nature, humans can strive to live in harmony with
the Earth, embracing sustainable practices that support the health and
vitality of ecosystems.

Indigenous cultures around the world possess deep ecological knowledge
passed down through generations, rooted in a profound understanding of
divine symbiosis. These cultures offer valuable insights into sustainable
living practices, resource management, and spiritual reverence for nature.
By embracing indigenous wisdom and incorporating it into modern society,
humanity can learn to coexist with nature in a more harmonious and
sustainable way.

As stewards of the Earth, humans have a sacred responsibility to care for
the planet and all its inhabitants. This stewardship involves not only
protecting natural resources for future generations but also cultivating a
sense of reverence and gratitude for the gifts of the Earth. By embracing
our role as caretakers of the planet, humanity can work towards restoring
balance and healing the wounds inflicted upon the natural world.

Divine symbiosis invites us to recognize the interconnectedness of all life
and to honor the sacred relationship between humanity and nature. By
fostering a deeper understanding of our interdependence, cultivating
spiritual reverence for the natural world, embracing sustainable practices,
and assuming our role as stewards of the Earth, we can work towards a more
harmonious and balanced relationship with nature. In doing so, we not only
ensure our own survival but also preserve the beauty and diversity of life
for generations to come.

{“Theism means the gigantic abstract flow of symbiotic rapture, on the
surface of the earth, the basic feature of earth’s geography. If one enters
the lush and free forest with the basic faith that every organism actually
helps, that symbiosis rules the lives of all organisms, then Theism grows
in one naturally and spontaneously. Your faith is smelt and sensed by every
organism, which exhales in smells and informs their welcome. In nature
communication is not in words but in feelings, sounds and tunes of nature
all of which are part of the air.”}   NO GAINSAY about it, yet today no one
is in the forest but lives only in the concrete Jungles. And of course,
there is no suicide there but animal killing all in needs of food.

{“God is not in any sacred religious text. In free nature God or Theism
grows with age, every nano second in every organism. Musics and Dances
sprout in great Biospheric symphonies.”}  A wonderful refined thinking,
imagining the olden days of Aranya living. However, all the bhaktas are
only living in the city. Modern life with the machines, Plants (Not Aranya)
and whatnots. Bhakti, worship, breathing are all nothing to do with the
olden styles as we have crossed the bridges. Even if KRISHNA were to be
here, HE has to cope with all these.

{“There is a need for comparison studies about the happiness of those who
live in free nature with those that live in big cities. Suicides do not
happen in thick forests and no organism has psychological problems.”}
Happiness dwells in the minds. Living is not a criterion for happiness.
Sat-Chit-Ananda can arise anywhere.

{“Today thanks to science, technology, mechanization, industrialization and
urbanization and total pollution, we believe only in machines and not in
nature.”}   Not exactly. As we thank science, we have to hang the
disbelievers of life with nature. Science never prompted nor any university
to use the atom for the bombardments only. As everyone closes the doors,
when we cite the rowdies and the Hooligans, by way of security, we use a
positive knowledge also for our own security; if the nations do not do
that, any one will protect them clause is absent. Even while closing the
doors, we declare I AM ONLY FOR MYSELF AND WILL NOT COME TO YOUR RESCUE
EVEN IF WIFE AND CHILDREN. We have such a refinement and call it decency.
We teach our children if some nasty things happen, right under our nose,”
DO NOT GO THERE AND GET HIT; THE WORLD IS NOT DEPENDENT ON YOU; YOU LOOK
AFTER YOURSELF; YOUR GRAVE; HENCE YOU ARE SO DECENT”. Our civilisation is
so ancient and is proud of; but we teach our posterity, only such
civilisation nomenclature as,” don’t help anyone; if rowdy go off; it is
indecent to fight for Dharma”. And yet we want someone else to risk and
fight for us. So, fostering nature is needed; we have to initiate strict
procedures. By going back to 1800 AD, nature may not be protected at all.
K Rajaram IRS 5624   6624

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 19:50, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
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ananda vikatan swarna aakarshana homam 29 6 24 at kumbakonam (only within chennai pondicherry for prasadams)

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பிறைச் சந்திரனைத் தாங்கியவர்; அமிர்த கும்பம், சங்கம், அபயம், வரதம் கொண்ட
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தாங்கியபடி மற்றொரு திருக்கரத்தினால் ஆதிசக்தியைத் தழுவியவராய்க் காட்சி
அருளுபவர்; அன்பர் விரும்பும் அனைத்தையும் அருளும் அருட்குணம் கொண்டவர் என்று
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நினைத்தையெல்லாம் அளித்திடவல்ல கற்பகமரத்தினடியில் அழகிய சிம்மாசனத்தில் தமது
தேவியுடன் அமர்ந்தருளும் ஸ்ரீ சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண பைரவர் தம்மை நாடித் துதிக்கும்
பக்தர்களுக்கு சகல செல்வங்களையும் எளிதில் அருளுகின்றார்.

இத்தகு பைரவ மூர்த்தியை தஞ்சாவூர் மாவட்டம் கும்பகோணத்திற்கு அருகில் உள்ள
செம்பியவரம்பல் கிராமத்தில் தரிசிக்கலாம். மிகுந்த விசேஷமான இந்த ஸ்வர்ணாகர்ஷண
பைரவமூர்த்தி பூமியில் இருந்து தம்மைத்தாமே வெளிப்படுத்திக்கொண்டவர். கேட்டதை
அருளிடும் வரப்பிரசாதியாக ஸ்ரீ சுவர்ணதா தேவியான பைரவியுடன் ஸ்ரீ சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண
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பொதுவாக சுவர்ணசித்தி அடையும்பொருட்டு வணங்கப்படுகின்ற பைரவமூர்த்தங்களுள்
ஒன்றுதான் இந்த சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண பைரவமூர்த்தம். ஸ்ரீ சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண பைரவியுடன்
ஆலிங்கன பாவனையில் திரிசூலதாரியாக சர்வாபரணபூஷணராய் புன்னகை முகத்துடன்
மூலஸ்தானத்தில் காட்சி தருகிறார் இந்த சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண பைரவர். இருபுறமும் துவார
மூர்த்திகளாக விநாயகர் மற்றும் பாலமுருகன் வீற்றிருக்கின்றனர். சுற்றிலும் ஆகம
விதிப்படி அஷ்டபைரவர்கள் பிரதிஷ்டை செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளனர்.

தவிர ஆன்மார்த்த மூர்த்தங்களான ஸ்ரீ ஞானப்ரசூனாம்பிகை சமேத ஸ்ரீ காளஹஸ்தீஸ்வர
சுவாமி பிரதோஷ நந்தியுடன் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளார். தர்மசாஸ்தா மற்றும்
விஷ்ணுதுர்க்கை சந்நிதிகளும் இருப்பது கூடுதல் சிறப்பு. நமது நாட்டிலேயே
ஸ்வர்ணாகர்ஷணபைரவருக்கு இதுபோன்ற அமைப்புடன் தனித்த கோயில் இருப்பது இங்கு
மட்டும் தான் என்று சொல்கிறார்கள்.

எட்டு பைரவர்கள் சுற்றிலும் எழுந்தருளியிருக்க நடுநாயகமாயமாக தங்கமயமாய்
ஜொலித்துக் கொண்டு இருக்கிறார் இந்த ஸ்வர்ணாகர்ஷண பைரவர். பட்சத்திற்கு
(பதினைந்து நாட்களுக்கு) ஒரு முறை ஒவ்வொரு அஷ்டமிக்கு முந்தைய தினத்திலும்
மூலவருக்கு மருந்துக் காப்பு சார்த்தப்படுகிறது‌. களையப்படுகிற வஸ்திரம்
முதலான நிர்மால்யமானது மறுதினம் அஷ்டமி ஹோமத்தில் ஆஹூதியாக சேர்க்கப்படுகிறது
என்பதும், ஆஹுதியில் புது வஸ்திரம் சேர்க்கப்படுவது இல்லை என்பதும்
குறிப்பிடத்தக்க விசேஷம். சுக்ல பட்சமாகிய வளர்பிறைக்காலத்தில்
வெள்ளிக்கவசத்திலும்; கிருஷ்ண பட்சமாகிய தேய்பிறைக்காலத்தில் தங்கக்
கவசத்திலும் ஸ்ரீ சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண பைரவர் தரிசனக்காட்சி அருளுவது இவ்வாலயத்துச்
சிறப்பு.
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தனம், தானியம், திருமணம், தொழில், அபிவிருத்தி, சத்புத்திரபிராப்தி, கடன்,
வியாதி, தடைகள், எதிர்மறைக் கோளாறுகள், வழக்கு முதலான பிரச்சினைகளுக்கு தீர்வு
தேடுபவர்கள் சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண ஹோமம் வழிபாடு செய்ய வேண்டும் என்று வழிபாட்டு
நூல்களில் சொல்லப்பட்டு இருக்கிறது.

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ஸ்ரீசுவர்ணாகர்ஷ்ண ஹோமம் நடைபெற உள்ளது. கடன் நிவர்த்தி, சொத்துப் பிரச்னைகள்
தீருவது, வியாபார விருத்தி, செல்வவளம் போன்ற சகல நன்மைகளும் கிடைக்கும் என்பது
நம்பிக்கை.

ஸ்ரீ சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண பைரவரை செஞ்சந்தனம், செம்மலர்களைக் கொண்டு வழிபடுபவர்கள்
இஷ்டகாரிய சித்திகளை சுலபமாக அடையலாம். சம்பங்கி மலர்களைக் கொண்டு ஹோமம்
செய்பவர்கள் வேண்டியதை வேண்டியவாறே அடைவார்கள். இவருக்குரிய மந்திரங்களை
அன்புடன் ஓதுபவர்கள் அனைத்து வளன்களையும் எளிதில் அடைவார்கள் என்பதாக
மந்திரநூல்களில் சொல்லப்பட்டு இருக்கிறது. குறிப்பாக இவ்வாலயத்தில் மிளகு,
சர்க்கரை, முந்திரி இவற்றை ஆஹுதியாக இட்டு செய்யப்படும் ஹோமம் அதீத பலன்களை
அள்ளித் தரவல்லது.

ஸ்ரீ சுவர்ணாகர்ஷண பைரவரை வணங்கிடுபவர்களை எவ்வித கிரகதோஷங்களும் அணுகுவதில்லை

sujatha ananthan from FB Iyer group

Its indecent but the effect is sharp So many appear written by Iyers KR IRS
6624
Sujatha Ananthan

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  ·
குடிதண்ணியில்
#மலத்தை

கலந்தாலும்,
#சாணிய

கரைச்சிபோட்டாலும்,
#கஞ்சா

வித்தாலும்.
#போதைபொருள்

வித்தாலும்
#அப்பனோட

பேரை பூரா இடங்களுக்கு வெச்சாலும்
#வீல்_கழண்ட

பஸ்ல போனாலும்.,
#வீடு_புகுந்து

கொள்ளை அடிச்சாலும்
#நில_அபகரிப்பு

செய்தாலும்
#கோவில்_வருமானத்தை

ஆட்டய போட்டாலும்
#ஒட்டுமொத்த

சினிமா உலகத்தையே கைக்குள்ள போட்டுகிட்டாலும்
#மின்தடை

ஏற்படுத்தினாலும்
#குற்றவாளிகளோட

Fwd: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 06-2024-04

CULTURAL QA 06202404

Q1 What interesting facts do you know?

KR   Many written here are far from the truth and are imagination
running riots without any authentic facts behind. I write about only such
issues which are untrue and useless; rest never ever I touch. I consider
everyone who writes has a social obligation to spend time over the matter
and prune which is time consuming, unless known something already. Most of
the topics run here are read already (thanks for USA libraries unlike India
storing the latest and lending 50 books at a time for 3 weeks) People who
wants fiction to be run as truth, may not get convinced about. But the
bitter truth is stranger than the fiction. Writing for fun and writing for
facts are two divisions Poles apart.  KR IRS 5624

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1. The Sun is so hot that if you place a 1 gram piece of the Sun anywhere
on Earth, you will die even if that piece is within 145 kilometers.

KR  Some people always think crookedly. First there is nothing as top
and bottom at all in space; it is a wrong vision we have as looing up etc.
Space is like aa silver plate we daily use to eat and hence in some places
mentioned it as FLAT. Flat does not mean just a thin horizontal layer.
Space is a miracle where all are long distance players chasing each around
playing cricket and football with powers, akarshana and resistance. And the
fundamental theory is all are hung with out a string. The silver plate we
are able to visualise which we are unable to even with a Hubble, because,
we are not outside it.  Therefore, we do have a lot of parallel
misconceptions about the space which we do not know fully. Even though the
science does not agree with our Rishis because of a bias, (or else we do
they try to read all and try to rewrite our history?) our Rishis who named
them as GODs as science do give some names even for a storm, identified
many factors of Physics Boudeekam fundamentally. I don’t know why they
never thought of making all as E=mc2 like? But as our science unfolds, we
find it is already there; some urchins and grown-up urchins, even today are
questioning, us as “people who always say it is already there types”. But
what they failed to know is, that we did not know that language -thoughts
(not literal language) as we are aware only about the modern expressions;
so, when we understand here, that meaning is visible; as if, don’t we say,
I think I had seen him or her elsewhere?”. Thought-language is always slow.
One who saw that elephant could not have called it by any name, till he
created a word for it. Hence Physics shows that all are bound by Physics.
SUN or any planets can fall one over the other t all; some pieces may be
jerked; as many pieces had caused on earth , big holes. Same thing will
happen even if a bit Sun fell over as PHYSICS THERMODYNAMICS WILL ACT.
100DEGREE COFFEE DOES NOT STAY SO HOT AND BURN YOUR FINGERS, WHY EVEN YOUR
TONGUE ASS EXTERNAL ATMOSPHERE TEMP IT WILL REACH. HENCE ONLY YOU ARE
THINKING YOU ARE EATING SO HOT.

The Sun is so hot that if you place a 1 gram piece of the Sun anywhere on
Earth, you will die even if that piece is within 145 kilometers. How far
true authentically

This statement is not entirely accurate. While it's true that the Sun is
incredibly hot and its surface temperature is around 5,500 degrees Celsius
(9,932 degrees Fahrenheit), the effect of placing a 1-gram piece of the Sun
on Earth would depend on various factors.

Firstly, it's practically impossible to isolate a 1-gram piece of the Sun
and transport it to Earth due to its immense gravitational pull and the
extreme conditions present on its surface. Even if we could, the heat would
dissipate rapidly as the small piece of the Sun would quickly lose its heat
energy to the surrounding environment.

Furthermore, the distance at which the heat from such a small piece of the
Sun would be lethal would depend on many factors, including atmospheric
conditions, the specific location on Earth, and the amount of heat that
piece of the Sun could emit before cooling down significantly. It's
unlikely that a 1-gram piece of the Sun, even if somehow transported to
Earth, would have a lethal effect at a distance of 145 kilometers.

So, while the statement emphasizes the extreme heat of the Sun, it
oversimplifies
the complexities involved and is not entirely accurate in practical terms.

THAT IS WHY I HAVE “SANATANA DHAARMA AND SCIENCE GOOGLE GROUP”.  Shortly I
am also planning to post all mine only in that as the response of know how
persons are few only compared to numbers tall. Thank you. I know people
posting from that elsewhere; I do not mind because, they are not earned by
my brain except some interpretations. I am not ILAYA RAJA; I am just Raja.
5624 from USA

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Q   2. Toothpaste We all wake up every day and apply toothpaste. But

Fwd: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE- TIRUVALLA-FORWARD-1

gOOD ONE IN 108. Tirumangai and Nammalvar did verses. "Pancharatra School
of Vaishnava Pooja" in the Temple I the system followed; Mangala sasanam by
Tirumangai Azhwar and Nammazhwar. . Pooja could be performed only by a
Karanma Santhi having hereditary competence and right as far as the Temple
is concerned. The conduct of poojas in the Devaswom Temples are devised
mainly as per the principles contained in Tantric Texts. The authority in
this field could be traced to the text "Tantra Samuchayam" written by
Brahma Sree Chennad Manackal Narayanan Namboodirippadu in the year 1427.
According to the Tantri, various poojas conducted in Sree Vallabha Maha Temple
are unique and rare. The poojas are conducted according to the "Yajanavali
Text" on the basis of Pancharatra System contained in Sree Durvasa Samhita.
Special Type of poojas are not being conducted in other temples under the
Travancore Devaswom Board and close similarity could be seen as far as the
poojas in Sree Poornathrayeesa Temple, Tripunithura is concerned. The
unique and salient features of the conduct of poojas in Sree Vallabha Maha
Temple are available in Chapter 21 of the book "Sree Vallabha Maha Kshetra
Charithram" published by Sri. P. Unnikrishnan Nair. Certain extracts from
the book "Thulasiharam" written by Smt. Aswathi Thirunal Gouri Lakshmi
Bai. According
to the complainants, there are altogether five families, who were having
karanma right for functioning as Melsanthi in Sree Vallabha Maha Temple.
Those families are (1) Ambly, (2) Annankala, (3) Karakkadu, (4) Sreevelli
and (5) Nedumbrathu Cherukudal. For about more than 17 years, none from the
above families has worked as Karanma Melsanthies in the above Temple.
During the above period, the persons who are employees of Devaswom Board
were functioning as Melsanthies in the Temple. According to the Thantri,
those persons were told about the unique and salient features of the
Pancharaatra system of poojas in the Temple while they were initiated
before assuming charge as Melsanthi in the Temple. The complainant Vishnu
Narayanan Namboodiri made a proposal for being appointed as Melsanthi. A
view of temple :  https://youtu.be/DzftjaozlwYOnme of 108 khetras  @
Valabha sheram   And similar one exists in AP also
KRAJARAM IRS 5624   6624

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From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 01:04
Subject: [iyer123] SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE- TIRUVALLA-FORWARD-1
To: Iyer 


*SREEVALLABHA TEMPLE- TIRUVALLA**-FORWARD-1*

*Dear friends,*

*When we went for an inspection of Tiruvalla Exchange in 2004 middle, my
colleague Mr Sankara Narayanan and I visited Sreevallabha temple at
Truvalla. It is one among the 12 Divyadesams in Kerala. It was the first
time I was visiting the temple. *

*One of the specialities of the temple is daily performance of kathakali in
the temple. The following are information compiled from Wikipedia.*

*Gopalakrishan   5-6-2024. *

*1.Introduction.*

* Sree Vallabha Temple is located at Thiruvalla in Pathanmthitta district
of Kerala. It is a 400-year-old temple on the banks of the River Manimala
has a beautiful 8 feet idol of Sree Vallabha within the sanctum sanctorum. *

*The legendary architect Perunthachan, constructed the unique Garuda
Sthambha, a 54 ft flag mast made of a single block of granite.*

* During the 10-day annual festival held in February-March, a whopping
12,000 bunches of padatti pazham (a variety of bananas) are made as
offerings on the first day. It is also perhaps the only temple in Kerala
where Kathakali is performed as a ritual offering every night.*

*The temple is open from 04.30 AM   to 11.30 AM  in the morning and 17.00
PM  – 20.00 PM  in the evening. Kathakali from  2200 - 0100 hrs. *

*Contact number:  +91 469 2700191*

*ശ്രീവല്ലഭ മഹാക്ഷേത്രം*

*DeitySreevallabhan, Sudarshanamoorthy, Kolapiran,
ThiruVaazhmarban (husband of sree- lakshi, vallabhan-husband)*

*Thayar: Selvathirukozhunthu Nachiyar, Vaatsalya Devi*

*Prathyaksham:Khandakarnan*

*Mangalasaashanam: Thirumangai Azhwar (1808-17, 2674, 11 PaaSurams),
NammAzhwar(3205-15, 11 PaaSurams)*

*Theertham:Khandakarna Theertham, Pamba nadhi*

*Festivals  Uthra Sree Bali*

*Architecture  Type  Kerala style*

*Specifications*

*Direction of façade Sreevallabhan & Sudarshanamoorthy - Both in standing
posture; Sreevallabhan facing east and Sudarshanamoorthy facing west*

*www.srivallabhatemple.org *

*The Sreevallabha Temple is a highly orthodox Hindu temple dedicated to
Sreevallabha, a form of Vishnu. It is located in the city of Thiruvalla, in
India.*

*2 Description*

*It is one of the oldest and largest Temples of Kerala, and has been a
major destination for devotees in India for centuries. It is well known for
its architectural grandeur and customs, which are unique to the temple.
There are stone-wooden carvings and mural paintings inside the temple. *

*Being one among 108 Divya Desams Sreevallabha

Re: [iyer123] Thoughts

Success and relationships never depend on the capability of your brain. It
is perfect where the emotional quotient plays the cards.  In Kritha, Treta
and dwapara yugas it would fit. Kali is different or else BJP performance
cannot be so low. Dharmar in Mahabharata was instructed by Drona to see
around the people and report as the same assignment was given to Duryodhana
alao.

Once while imparting knowledge to the Pandavas and Kauravas in his ashram,
Guru Dronacharya asked Duryodhana, the eldest of the Kauravas, to search
and find a good person and to bring him along with him to the ashram. Guru
Dronacharya then asked Yudhisthira, the eldest of the Pandavas, to find a
bad person and get him to the ashram.

Duryodhana set out to find a good person but in spite of searching the
entire kingdom he could not find a single good person. He returned back and
reported to Guru Dronacharya about his inability to find a good person.

Yudhisthira travelled far and wide of the country searching for a bad
person. But he could not locate a single bad person. After several days of
search, he too returned back and reported to Guru Dronacharya about his
inability to find a bad person.

All the students in the ashram were perplexed with the outcome. They asked,
Guru Dronacharya, how come Duryodhana could not find a good person and
Yudhisthira could not find a bad person.

Guru Dronacharya then calmly told his students that what we are internally
we see in the world. Duryodhana was filled with pride, jealousy and desire
and therefore he was unable to find a good person. Yudhisthira was filled
with piety, humility, peace and goodness and therefore he was unable to
find a bad person in the same country.

What matters is our outlook. If we have a positive outlook we will be able
to see light even in the darkest corner of the cave.

Emotional Outlook was enough; reason is uncalled for. But today the
good and the bad are classified only as adding money for favour.  Ten being
naive like BJP believing all, as Good and never any bad conditions
attributable, went against as a silently stabbed at the back, unashamedly.
Buddhi needed. No one including us could gauge the atmosphere so polluted.
The quote of the Hindus 50% out of 78% (39% vote of the population fetched
only 240 seats while 31% 300 seats is the cause of fall) plus 22% makes the
cause of defeat of BJP perfect. Buddj needed to collect 5% in anti hindu
and intra hindu ,raising to plus 10% might have made the election
different. Relationship  in that attending to that 10% might have been a
success. Amit shah missed the buddi.

"BUT THEY DEPEND ON ALWAYS ON YOUR GREATNESS OF BEHAVIOUR AND THOUGHTS
could be true had there been 49% vote bank always. But it did not. Mayile
Mayile iragu podu is the greatness of thoughts; but will never work; do bad
listen so easily to good thoughts; not even at home and in our
surroundings; good people do not trule; bad one always misunderstand the
theory wantonly wrongly; IF BURNING GIVING THE HEAT IS PULLED OUT THE
BOILING WILL STOP does mean, pullout the weeds. But what does the Good
thinking camouflaged do? Pull the good ones so the bad can rule the roast;
and also talk let there be peace; and all around will clap clap. Then "GOOD
THOUGHTS" are wrong thoughts only. Where the angels fear to tread, the
devils start their meetings. Thought is bound to be good only when we think
alike and kill the weeds including the master planner who never had the
conscious touch as a leader. ADI UDAVARA MADIRI ANNAN THAMBI KOODA UDHAVA
MAATTA MANGA. FEAR IS THE KEY The government servants attended office from
9 50AM to 6 PM, when IG pulled the trigger ; but before and after it
derailed. Hence Indians, statesmen , groups, society, clans, castes, creeds
and home , needed only strong and harsh measures. That alone is a good
thought for success. K rajaram  IRS 5624

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 00:24, Rama  wrote:

> *Success & Relationship never depend On the Capability of your brain*
>
> *But they always depend on the Greatness of your Behaviour & Thoughts*
>
> Cheers
> Rama
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Re: [KeralaIyers] why BJP l;ost in Ayodhya? AND a major reason for the poor showing in U P

Now we cannot afford to waste another 5 years without implementing
anything; either money or vote or as Annamalai did NO-MONEY for vote
,inculcating the minds of south people at Large and north wherever
necessary, must be pruned and clipped within 2 years. Assembly elections
must be won.And even if arajakam, all regional party heads with raids must
be sent to Jail for long years in just 2 years. Caste and creed
eradication, by retaining them only indoors, must be enforced by pressure
and rewards. Else India will become another Uganda. It is not regional
politics; it is politics of money run by the regions. (regents?)  KR  IRS
5624

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 00:17, 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers <
keralaiy...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> What is in brackets is my surmise based on his article and other write ups.
>
> Jagannathan, called Jaggi, Editorial Director of Swarajaya also wrote in
> Swarajya that one of the major reasons why BJP performed badly in U P as a
> whole was because
>
> 1. "39 Candidates proposed by Yogi were rejected by the Central
> Leadership" (read Modi, Amit Shah and Nadda)
>
> 2. "He has hinted at (I feel it is Amit Shah, perhaps without naming him)
> that people were uncomfortable about the growing stature of Yogi, who is
> seen as the next P M by many. This has resulted in greed and the need to
> put Yogi down". (I feel - By nominating their people they will get their
> loyalty when the need arises)
>
> ( I  can say it is an open secret that many senior leaders were against
> Annamalai in T N  as they could not stomach such a young person doing so
> well and garnering all the glory and there are reports they had a secret
> understanding with the AIADMK, who also see Annamalai as their enemy.
>
> ( We Hindus will never unite as as has been shown in history, such
> selfish, greedy people we are. While we preach tolerance (the tolerant
> brigade) to others, we are so intolerant when one of our own succeeds.  We
> will pull each other down even if it means our enemies will succeed, we
> can't see beyond our nose)
>
> N Sekar
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 08:33:41 AM GMT+4, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Why BJP Lost In Ayodhya Despite Ram Janmabhoomi Temple
>
> SWATI GOEL SHARMAJun 04, 2024, 08:10 PM swarajya
>
> Is it correct?  KR IRS
>
> The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)’s defeat in the Faizabad seat in Uttar
> Pradesh has stumped many, given the recent ‘pran prathishtha’ and opening
> of the grand Ram Janmabhoomi temple in its Ayodhya city.
>
> BJP candidate Lallu Singh's loss to Samajwadi Party’s Awadhesh Prasad,
> despite Singh’s back-to-back victories from the same Lok Sabha constituency
> in the last two general elections, signifies a significant shift in local
> political dynamics. Prasad defeated Singh by over 54,000 votes, having
> garnered a total of 554,289 votes.
>
> As per local experts, several factors have contributed to the unexpected
> electoral outcome.
>
> One major misstep by Lallu Singh was his controversial remark that the BJP
> needed two-third majority to be able to “make changes in the Constitution”.
> He reportedly made the remark on 13 April at a chaupal in Ayodhya’s
> Milkipur, from where he has been five-time MLA.
>
> The opposition quickly latched on to the controversy, alleging that the
> BJP aimed to alter reservations for members of the scheduled and backward
> castes.
>
> SP national president Akhilesh Yadav accused the BJP of having a “hidden
> agenda to end reservations provided to backward classes, Dalits, and
> minorities”.
>
> This rhetoric seems to have resonated strongly with those who feared the
> erosion of reservation benefits.
>
> The SP strategically fielded Awadhesh Prasad, a member of the Pasi
> community, which bolstered the party’s appeal among Dalits. Prasad’s
> campaign slogan was — “In Ayodhya, no Mathura, no Kashi; only Awadhesh
> Pasi.”
>
> Local resentment against some administrative decisions regarding the Ram
> temple also seems to have played a crucial role.
>
> Road-widening work in the city led to the demolition or displacement of
> over 4,000 shops along several routes leading to the temple. As per a BJP
> worker from Ayodhya, residents complain that compensation and
> rehabilitation promises fell short, leaving many shop owners feeling
> betrayed.
>
> One of such residents is a photographer this publication spoke to. He said
> that he ran a shop near the makeshift temple that existed on the disputed
> site before bhoomi pujan of the new temple in 2020. His shop was demolished
> for road widening, but he was paid a mere Rs 1 lakh for it. He waited for
> several months to be allotted a new shop as promised.

why BJP l;ost in Ayodhya?

Why BJP Lost In Ayodhya Despite Ram Janmabhoomi Temple

SWATI GOEL SHARMAJun 04, 2024, 08:10 PM swarajya

Is it correct?  KR IRS

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)’s defeat in the Faizabad seat in Uttar
Pradesh has stumped many, given the recent ‘pran prathishtha’ and opening
of the grand Ram Janmabhoomi temple in its Ayodhya city.

BJP candidate Lallu Singh's loss to Samajwadi Party’s Awadhesh Prasad,
despite Singh’s back-to-back victories from the same Lok Sabha constituency
in the last two general elections, signifies a significant shift in local
political dynamics. Prasad defeated Singh by over 54,000 votes, having
garnered a total of 554,289 votes.

As per local experts, several factors have contributed to the unexpected
electoral outcome.

One major misstep by Lallu Singh was his controversial remark that the BJP
needed two-third majority to be able to “make changes in the Constitution”.
He reportedly made the remark on 13 April at a chaupal in Ayodhya’s
Milkipur, from where he has been five-time MLA.

The opposition quickly latched on to the controversy, alleging that the BJP
aimed to alter reservations for members of the scheduled and backward
castes.

SP national president Akhilesh Yadav accused the BJP of having a “hidden
agenda to end reservations provided to backward classes, Dalits, and
minorities”.

This rhetoric seems to have resonated strongly with those who feared the
erosion of reservation benefits.

The SP strategically fielded Awadhesh Prasad, a member of the Pasi
community, which bolstered the party’s appeal among Dalits. Prasad’s
campaign slogan was — “In Ayodhya, no Mathura, no Kashi; only Awadhesh
Pasi.”

Local resentment against some administrative decisions regarding the Ram
temple also seems to have played a crucial role.

Road-widening work in the city led to the demolition or displacement of
over 4,000 shops along several routes leading to the temple. As per a BJP
worker from Ayodhya, residents complain that compensation and
rehabilitation promises fell short, leaving many shop owners feeling
betrayed.

One of such residents is a photographer this publication spoke to. He said
that he ran a shop near the makeshift temple that existed on the disputed
site before bhoomi pujan of the new temple in 2020. His shop was demolished
for road widening, but he was paid a mere Rs 1 lakh for it. He waited for
several months to be allotted a new shop as promised. But when the time
came, he was told to pay up Rs 20 lakh to run it.

“They allotted me a shop in a shopping complex they have built. But asked
for Rs 20 lakh to use it. I did not have that kind of money,” he said. “I
simply lost my livelihood.”

He accuses the Shri Ram Janmabhoomi Teerth Kshetra of “grabbing land” and
blames, by extension, the BJP. He says his sentiment is shared by all those
who lost their businesses and “collectively decided to vote against the
BJP”.

Furthermore, the hurried inauguration of the temple, believed to be timed
to coincide with the election campaign, led to significant mismanagement,
an Ayodhya-based journalist told this publication.

As per him, residents have been facing numerous inconveniences, such as
discontinued private vehicular movement on several routes and the need to
walk considerable distances to board state-run buses due to barricaded
routes.

He further said that while the influx of pilgrims was expected to boost
local economy, the anticipated economic benefits failed to materialise for
small business owners.

“It is only the big players and outsiders opening businesses in Ayodhya who
are benefitting or stand to benefit,” he said.

Another journalist, who did not wish to be named, that the BJP cadre in
Ayodhya felt let down when prime minister Narendra Modi, during his
campaigning in the area, “repeatedly lauded Iqbal Ansari while ignoring all
those who made sacrifices for the temple”. Ansari was key litigant in the
Babri mosque-Ram Janmabhoomi legal dispute from the Muslim side, having
inherited the suit from his father, Mohammed Haji Hashim Ansari.

Iqbal Ansari publicly accepted the Supreme Court verdict allocating the
dispute land to the Hindu petitioners in 2019.

“While Ayodhyawasis respect the Ansari family, people who made real
sacrifices for the temple were ignored in the speeches,” the journalist
said. The gesture, coupled with the Padma Vibhushan to Samajwadi Party
founder Mulayam Singh Yadav, notorious for ordering security forces to open
fire at karsewaks in 1990, triggered anger among the BJP cadre, he said.

In conclusion, the BJP's loss in Ayodhya can be attributed to a combination
of insensitive development practices, controversial political rhetoric, and
failure to address local grievances.

Although the temple's construction fulfilled a long-standing desire and
brought a sense of pride, for many locals, it has become a symbol of their
displacement and marginalisation.

This election result serves as a stark reminder that while symbolic
gestures may resonate nationally,

SANATANA DHARMA PART 43 K RAJARAM IRS 4624 5624 on OM

*SANATANA DHARMA PART 43 K RAJARAM IRS 4624   5624*

*on OM *

A-U-M symbolises one‘s own consciousness of truthfulness and reliability
signifying the kaleidoscopic variations of mind in endless forms, yet
therefore anything that changes constantly! A-U-M signifies one‘s own mind
as conditioned of Pancha Bhutas of Earth- Water- Fire- Air and Skies
besides the Panchendriyas of Karmendriyas viz. nose-tongue- eyes- ears-
skin respectively and of Jnanendriyas viz. Ghrana-***Rasa-
Chakshu-Shrotra-Twak or smell, taste, see, hear and touch. as also of the
Pancha Tanmatra of Light, sound, taste, smell and consciousness. A-U-M as
of now being attached to the Charioteer called the Intellect as of
discretion or otherwise, and as of the Wise / Vicious horses that get
carried away with right or of wrong deeds. But once Intellect in tune with
the bridle of mind is endowed with care and discretion then the organs too
like the good horses tend to run on the roads of safety and wellbeing.
Contrarily, the master of the chariot looks bewildered as mute spectator to
the unapproved deeds of the Charioteer, the bridle and the horses thus for
sure getting deeply engaged in the cycle of births and deaths with all the
risks of existence again and again either as humans or animals or worms
depending on the deeds of the body concerned! However, if the charioteer as
associated with the bridle and quality horses would certainly take to
smooth roads without pitfalls and seek to escape the dreaded cycle of
births and deaths!

   A-U- M is Brahman. Om consists of one syllable is the Antah-Pranava
or one ‘s own conscience. It is divided into eight (matras) - the vowel
'a', the vowel 'u', the consonant 'm', the half-syllable (ardha-matra) the
nada, the bindu, the kala and the shakti. Hence it is not of four - as its
chief matras as has been said to be. The vowel 'a' consists of ten thousand
parts, the vowel 'u' is of a thousand parts, the letter 'm' of a hundred
parts and the Ardhamatra-Pranava consists of an endless number of parts.

   Now, Veda- Puraana-Upanishad- Dharma -Itihaasa-Shastras had already
been reflected for some time now as highlighted on Tri Murtis, Tri Devis,
Pancha Bhutaas, Agni Karyas, Nava Grahas, Contemporary Subject Writings and
so on. A-U-M, thus what all of a little of comprehensible and the huge
chasm of what is not far beyond comprehension are like the Agjnaana-
Vigjnaana- and Paraajgnaana categories; A-U-M is now being thus sought to
be explained as the Essence of Pranava!!

 Pranava Shabda ‗AUM‘

This be the essence of Life as explained in Chaturvedas, Shat Vedangas,
Dharma Shastras, Purana, Upanishad, Smriti, Tarka Mimamsas. The
ever-singular Pranava Shabda AUM is what the representation of the Universe
all about. The Unrealizable Paramatma manifested ‗Eka Nemi‘ or the Eternal
Single Hub of wheel Kaalaaa Chakra with three tiers or three folds of three
Gunas of Satva-Rajas-Tamas; sixteen terminals or of five elements of
‗Prithivy-aapas-tejo-vaayur-aakaashas‘,
five organs of Perception viz. Jnanendriyas and five organs of Action or
Karmendriyas and the mind as the Leader; ‗Shata-ardhaaram‘ or fifty spokes
representing viz.‘ viparyaas‘ viz. misleading conclusions, ‗tamas‘ or
ignorance, ‗moha‘ or self-love, ‗maha moha‘ or extreme infatuation,
‗taamishra‘ or abhorence and and ‗andhataamishra‘ or terror; ‗Vimshati
pratyaraabhih‘ or twenty four counter spokes or the Five Basic Elements of
Nature with five each of organs and senses and mind; ‗ Ashtaika shabdih‘ or
six sets of eights viz. ‗Prakriti‘ or Nature, with eight causes of five
elements with, ‗Manas‘or Mind, Buddhi‘ or Intelligence and ‗Ahamkaara‘ or
Ego . Also in the Universal Creation a strong rope tied to each and every
being named ‗Karma‘or the plus and minus account‘ as of the dominant
difference of three ingredients of Life viz. ‗Dharmaa-dharma vichakshanaa
jnaanam‘ or the innate capability of Righteousness and its Contrariness;
and ‗dvini mittaika moham‘ or the double edged obsession of good and evil
orientation both being the definite causes of rebirth!

  This is how the delineation of the Single focal point or the hub of
the wheel of Life- OM ! Now the Recitation of Pranava as proposed by seven
‗Vyahritis‘(applicable expressions of Gayatri) viz.

   *Om Bhuh, Om Bhuvah, Om Suvah, Om Mahah, Om Janah, Om Tapah, and further
Om Satyam, Om tatsavatir varenyam bhargo devasya dheermahi dhiyo yonah
prachodayaat, Om Apo Jyoti rasomritam Brahma Bhurbhuvatswarom/*

 as followed by Pranaayaama or the Control of Prana Vayu is performed
by touching the nose by the thumb and second finger and air must be taken
in slowly through the left nostril and sent out by the right nostril;
inhalation is known as ‗Puraka‘, retaining is ‗Kumbhaka‘ and exhalation is
Rechaka, the three tasks done by 1:3:2 ratio, completing one Pranayaama.
The person of enlightenment who is able to sit erect with the three upper
limbs of the body viz. the chest, neck and head,

fraud as exposed by vikatan today

400 பேரிடம் ரூ.200 கோடி மோசடி? - கோடிகளைச் சுருட்டிய ‘ஸ்வர்ணதாரா’!

எஸ்.மகேஷ்

சென்னையைச் சேர்ந்த சுப்பையா என்பவரைத் தூண்டில் புழுவாக்கி, அவருடைய
உறவினர்கள், நண்பர்கள் என 25 பேரிடம் 1.49 கோடி ரூபாயை மோசடி செய்திருக்கிறது
இந்தக் கும்பல்.

கலர் கலராக ரீல்விட்டு, கோடிகளைச் சுருட்டிய இரு குடும்பத்தினரைக் கூண்டோடு
கைதுசெய்திருக்கிறது போலீஸ். இவர்களிடம் பணத்தை இழந்தவர்களில் ஒருவர்
கூட்டுறவுத்துறையில் இணை பதிவாளராக இருந்தவர்!

‘அதீத வட்டி தருவதாகச் சொல்வோரை நம்பக் கூடாது என்று ரிசர்வ் வங்கி தொடர்ந்து
விழிப்புணர்வு ஏற்படுத்தியும் எப்படி ஏமாந்தீர்கள்?’ என்று புகார்தாரரான சென்னை
மடிப்பாக்கத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ஓய்வுபெற்ற இணை பதிவாளர் ராஜகோபாலிடம் கேட்டோம். “
நான் பணி ஓய்வுபெற்ற பிறகு, எனது பணப் பலன்களை எப்படி புத்திசாலித்தனமாக
முதலீடு செய்வது என்ற யோசனையில் இருந்தேன். அப்போது, அண்ணாநகர் பகுதியில்
செயல்பட்ட ‘ஸ்வர்ணதாரா குழுமம்’ என்ற நிதி நிறுவனம், கவர்ச்சிகரமான முதலீட்டுத்
திட்டங்களை அறிவித்தது. அந்த நிறுவனத்தின் சார்பில் நடத்தப்பட்ட
முதலீட்டாளர்கள் சந்திப்புக் கூட்டத்துக்குச் சென்றேன். அந்தக் கூட்டத்துக்கு
வந்திருந்த செட்டப் ஆட்கள், தாங்கள் முதலீடு செய்த பணத்தைவிட இரட்டிப்பு
லாபத்தைப் பெற்றதாகச் சொன்னார்கள்.

ஸ்வர்ணதாரா குழுமத்தின் சேர்மன் வெங்கடரங்க குப்தா, இயக்குநர்கள் ஹரிகரன்,
விஜயஸ்ரீகுப்தா ஆகியோரும் என்னிடம் கேன்வாஸ் செய்தார்கள். ‘எங்களின் நிறுவனம்
ஆர்.பி.ஐ அனுமதிபெற்று முதலீடுகளைப் பெறுவதால், உங்களின் பணத்துக்கு 100
சதவிகிதம் உத்தரவாதம் இருக்கிறது. எங்களிடம் ஒரு லட்ச ரூபாய் முதலீடு செய்தால்,
ஆண்டுதோறும் ஒரு லட்ச ரூபாய் தருவதாகவும், மூன்று வருடங்களுக்குப் பிறகு
முதலீடு செய்த தொகையையும் திரும்பப் பெறலாம்’ என்றும் சொன்னார்கள். மேலும், ‘
நாங்கள் வெளிநாடுகளில் தங்கத்தில் முதலீடு செய்வதுடன், மருத்துவ குணமிக்க தேன்
இறக்குமதியிலும் ஈடுபடுகிறோம். எனவே, பணத்தைத் திருப்பித் தருவதில் எந்தப்
பிரச்னையும் வராது’ என்றனர்.

அதை நம்பி 2015-ல் ரூ.3 லட்சம் முதலீடு செய்தேன் அடுத்த மூன்று ஆண்டுகளும் தலா
ஒரு லட்சம் பணம் திருப்பித் தந்தார்கள். அதனால் எனக்கு அவர்கள்மீது நம்பிக்கை
ஏற்பட்டது. அதைத் தொடர்ந்து எனது உறவினர்கள், நண்பர்களென மொத்தம் 61 பேரை கடந்த
2018-ம் ஆண்டு முதல் 2022-ம் ஆண்டு இந்த நிறுவனத்தில் முதலீடு செய்ய வைத்தேன்.
சுமார் 2.39 கோடி ரூபாயை ஸ்வர்ணதாரா நிறுவனத்தில் அவர்கள் முதலீடு செய்தார்கள்.
ஆனால், சொன்னபடி பணத்தைத் திரும்பத் தராமல் அனைவரையும் மோசடி செய்துவிட்டார்கள்”
என்றார் விரிவாக.

இதேபோல சென்னையைச் சேர்ந்த சுப்பையா என்பவரைத் தூண்டில் புழுவாக்கி, அவருடைய
உறவினர்கள், நண்பர்கள் என 25 பேரிடம் 1.49 கோடி ரூபாயை மோசடி செய்திருக்கிறது
இந்தக் கும்பல். இப்படி, குறைந்தது 400 பேரிடம் சுமார் 200 கோடி ரூபாய் வரை
மோசடி செய்யப்பட்டிருக்கலாம் என்கிறார்கள் போலீஸார்.

இந்த வழக்கை விசாரித்த உதவி கமிஷனர் ராஜசேகரனிடம் பேசினோம். ``ராஜகோபால்,
சுப்பையா ஆகியோர் கொடுத்த புகாரின் அடிப்படையில், ஸ்வர்ணதாரா நிறுவனத்தின்
சேர்மன் வெங்கடரங்க குப்தா, அவரின் மனைவி, மகள், நண்பரான ஹரிகரன், அவரின் மனைவி,
மகன்கள் என இரு குடும்பத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ஏழு பேரைக் கைது செய்திருக்கிறோம்.
அவர்களிடமிருந்து ரூ.4.5 லட்சம் பணம், 44 சவரன் தங்க மற்றும் வைர நகைகள்,
சொகுசு கார்கள், முக்கிய ஆவணங்கள் கைப்பற்றப்பட்டிருக்கின்றன. மேலும், 12
வங்கிக் கணக்குகளிலிருந்த 17 லட்ச ரூபாயை முடக்கியிருக்கிறோம். விசாரணை
தொடர்கிறது” என்றார்.

Rs 200 Crore fraud on 400 people? - 'Swarnadara' who rolled crores!

S. Mahesh

This gang has cheated 1.49 crore rupees from 25 people like his relatives
and friends by baiting Subpaiah from Chennai.

The police have arrested two families who reeled off crores of rupees with
a cage. One of the people who lost money to them was a joint registrar in
the co-operative sector!

We asked the complainant Rajagopal, a retired associate registrar from
Madipakkam, Madipakkam, Madipakkam, Chennai, 'how could you be deceived
even though the RBI has been constantly raising awareness that people who
claim to pay exorbitant interest rates should not be trusted?' “After I
retired, I was thinking about how to invest my cash benefits wisely. At
that time, a financial institution called 'Swarnadhara Group' operating in
Annanagar area announced attractive investment schemes. I went to the
investors meeting held on behalf of that company. Investors who attended
the meeting said they got double the profit they invested.

Swarnadhara Group Chairman Venkatarang Gupta, Directors Harikaran and
Vijayasree Gupta also canvassed me. As our company is RBI approved and
receives investments, your money is 100 percent guaranteed. They said that
if you invest 1 lakh rupees with us, you will get 1 lakh rupees every year
and after three years you can get back the invested amount.' He further
said, 'We invest in gold abroad and import medicinal honey. Therefore,
there will be no problem in returning the money.

Trusting that, I invested Rs.3 lakh in 2015 and they returned Rs.1 lakh
each for the next three years. So I had faith in them. After that I made a
total of 61 people who are my relatives and friends to invest in this
company from 2018 to 2022. They invested about 2.39 crore rupees in
Swarnadhara. But they cheated everyone without returning the money as they
said," he said in detail.

Similarly, this gang has cheated 1.49 crore rupees from 25 people like his
relatives and friends by baiting

Saradha devi

ஸ்ரீ சாரதாதேவி கடைபிடித்த அறநெறி வாழ்க்கை தத்துவங்கள்-10!

 1. ஸ்ரீ ராமகிருஷ்ணரும் சாரதாதேவியும் தூய வாழ்க்கையும், புலனடக்கத்தையும்
அணிகலமாகக் கொண்டிருந்தனர். அங்ஙனமே அவர்கள் இருவரும் பண ஆசையை முற்றிலும்
துறந்த மேலோர் ஆவார்.

2. பிள்ளை பெறுகின்ற தருணத்தில் செய்கிற பணிவிடை முதல் பிறவி பணியை
நீக்குவதற்கு ஏற்ற ஞானப்பால் ஊட்டுதல் ஈறாக அரும்பணி அனைத்தையும் அன்னையார்
அருள் சுரந்து உலகுக்கு இயற்றியவராவார்

3. அன்பே வடிவெடுத்து மிளிர்வது சாரதாதேவியின் ஒரு கூறு. அசைவற்று கற்பாறை
போன்று ஆத்ம சொரூபத்தில்

நிலைத்திருப்பது அவருடைய மற்றொரு கூறாகும்.

4. சாரதாதேவி தம்மை அண்டியவருள் யாருக்கு எது தேவையோ அதைக் கரவாது கொடுத்து
அருளிய கருணை கடலாகிய தாய் ஆனவர். கஷ்டத்தைப் பொருட்படுத்தாது கைமாறு கருதாது
கொடுத்துக்கொண்டே இருக்கும் மேன்மையை அவரிடம் இருந்தே நாம் கற்றுக்கொள்ள
வேண்டும்.

5. மிகைப்பட பேசுதல் அன்னையாரிடம் கிடையாது. அடங்கிய அமிழ்து போன்ற இனிய
குரலில் சில சொற்கள் அவரிடமிருந்து வெளிவரும். அவை யாண்டும் உயிரும், அருளும்,
பொருளும் நிறைந்த சொற்கள் ஆகும்.

6. அன்பும், அனுதாபமும், ஊறிய அவருடைய இன்மொழியானது நெடுநாள் புண்பட்டிருந்த
மனத்தைக் கணப்பொழுதில் ஆற்றிப் பண்படுத்திவிடும்.

7. தடுமாற்றமுடையோர் அன்னையாரின் சன்னிதியில் திட்டம் பெறுவர். மனஉறுதி
இல்லாற்கு உறுதியும், ஊக்கமும் வரும். சோர்வுடையார் சுறசுறுப்படைவர்.
துயரமுடையார் தெளிவுற்று  இன்பம் துய்ப்பர்.

8. மாந்தரது மருளை நீக்கி அருளை வழங்க வல்லமைகளாய் இருந்தன அன்னையாரின்
நிறைமொழியும் அவருடைய மாண்புடைய செய்கையும்.



9. ஏட்டு கல்வியில் இருந்து வருவதைவிட அதிக நுண்ணறிவு தூய வாழ்க்கையில் இருந்து
வருகிறது  என்பதற்கு அன்னையாரின் வாழ்க்கை சான்றாகும்.

10. “ஒழுக்கமற்றவரும் விரும்பி ஒன்றை என்னிடம் இருந்து வேண்டுவாராயின் இல்லை
என்று மறுத்து இயம்ப என்னால் இயலாது” என்றார் சாரதா தேவியார். எப்பேர்ப்பட்ட
நல்ல எண்ணம் அவருடையது என்பது இதிலிருந்து விளங்கும்.

10 moral life principles followed by Sri Saradadevi!

 1. Sri Ramakrishna and Saradadevi were the epitome of pure life and
enlightenment. Thus, both of them are masters who have completely renounced
the desire for money.

2. From the labour performed at the moment of conception to the removal of
the work of birth, to the feeding of wisdom milk to the womb, it is the
mother who has created the world with her grace.

3. Shaped and shining with love is an aspect of Saradadevi. In the Atma
form like a motionless rock; Persistence is another attribute of her.

4. Saradadevi is a mother who is an ocean of mercy, who gives whatever is
needed to those who come near her. We should learn from her the excellence
of giving and giving regardless of hardship.

5. Mothers do not talk too much. A few words will come out of her in a soft
voice like a deep breath. They are words full of life, grace and meaning.

6. Her words filled with love and sympathy can instantly heal a
long-suffering mind.

7. Those who have difficulty will get the plan in the presence of Mother.
Without confidence comes determination and encouragement. Tired is
energetic. Sorrowful people will wash away pleasure without clarity.

8. The words of the Mother and the deeds of Her Majesty were capable of
removing the warts and giving grace.

9. Mother's life is proof that more wisdom comes from pure living than from
education.

10. "Even if an immoral person wants something from me, I cannot say no to
it," said Sarada Devi. This shows what kind of good intentions she
has.(KALKI ONLINE) K RAJARAM IRS 5624

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FYI  KR IRS 5624

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Re: Thought for the 5th June 2024

वेदाहं समतीतानि वर्तमानानि चार्जुन |

भविष्याणि च भूतानि मां तु वेद न कश्चन || 26||7 chap

vedāhaṁ samatītāni vartamānāni chārjuna

bhaviṣhyāṇi cha bhūtāni māṁ tu veda na kaśhchana

veda—know; aham—I; samatītāni—the past; vartamānāni—the present; cha—and;
arjuna—Arjun; bhaviṣhyāṇi—the future; cha—also; bhūtāni—all living beings;
mām—me; tu—but; veda—knows; na kaśhchana—no one

vedaham samatitani vartamanani charjuna

bhavishyani cha bhutani mam tu veda na kashchana

BG 7.26: O Arjun, I know of past, present, and future, and I also know all
living beings; but Me no one knows.

KR  In 2 11 HE says that Arjuna is worried about all who are already
dead whereas their souls are live and Arjuna cannot kill the soul; that is
all the dices had been laid down By HIM already and he like Sakuni does not
cast aany tricky dice playings. Their Karma will fix them. And here HE says
HE knows all the periods of the souls and their bodies . HE does not do any
mistake; bur Arjuna like us may. K Rajaram  IRS 4624   5624

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 17:33, Jambunathan Iyer  wrote:

> There are no mistakes in the universe, everything, every situation, every
> person, every experience you are going through is unfolding exactly in
> perfection with divine timing and divine plan.
>
> Sometimes no matter what you do, circumstances will unfold the way they
> are supposed to. Embrace whatever you are going through, with faith and
> trust in the divine.
>
> N Jambunathan Rengarajapuram-Kodambakkam-Chennai-Mob:9176159004
>
> *" What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you
> become by achieving your goals. If you want to live a happy life, tie it to
> a goal, not to people or things "*
>
>

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Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: Elections

In One way it would be in the best interest to give the ruling to congress
and in 6 months bring back again the election and that time in one stroke
if possible. KR  IRS

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 11:02, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: N Sekar 
> Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: Elections
> To: , Narayanaswamy Sekar <
> nsekar...@gmail.com>, Ranganathan ,
> Vanakkam Subbu , Chittanandam V R <
> chittananda...@gmail.com>, YM , Dr Sundar <
> drsd...@gmail.com>, Venkat Raman , Ravi mahajan <
> ravikantmaha...@gmail.com>, Venkat Giri ,
> SRIRAMAJAYAM , Mani APS , Rama <
> kaviran...@gmail.com>, Rangarajan T.N.C. ,
> Mathangi K. Kumar , Srinivasan Sridharan <
> sridhsriniva...@gmail.com>, Gopala Krishnan ,
> Jambunathan Iyer 
> Cc: thatha patty 
>
>
> Yes sir but our community is too small to make a difference but where we
> fail is, we plot our own downfall and don't mind stabbing ourselves, see
> the example of Jairam Ramesh.
>
> As I said so many times before, many brahmins are at the forefront to
> defame and denigrate Modi - just see the TV debates.
>
> N Sekar
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=NativePlacement=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_EmailSignatureGrowth_YahooMail:Search,Organize,Conquer_sub1=Acquisition_sub2=Global_YMktg_sub3=_sub4=10945_sub5=OrganizeConquer__Static_>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:59 PM, 'Bala N. Aiyer' via KeralaIyers
>  wrote:
> With all that is said on the daily talks and prayers, It is sad that many
> Hindus, and many Brahmins in that, in Tamil Nadu and Kerala continue their
> allegiance and give support to atheists forces like Congress, Communists
> and SMK political gangs.
>
> There is no need to blame anyone else but wake-up our own community
> members. Christians and Muslims are awake and seem to be intelligent.
> Hope this group will evolve out of this slumber and wake-up.
>
> With kind regards & best wishes,
>
>
>
> Bala N. Aiyer
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 08:12:51 AM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It is not corruption. It is not biased. It is "US". How we view our home
> with green eyes. How did Bheeshma look at Draupadi?. Bias is avoiding the
> dharma and feeling our thoughts on our clan pattern at the back. So too
> north south trends. When we turn a turtle out of fear even after old age,
> purely on vested interests, why not a nation with so many people like
> "US"?  Than Nenjarivadhu Poyyatrkka; poytha pin than nenje thannaich
> chudum. We think we are upright; are we? KR IRS 4624
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 06:24, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
> wrote:
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *N Sekar* 
> Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Elections
> To: 
> Cc: Chittanandam V. R. , Kerala Iyer <
> keralaiy...@googlegroups.com>, Mathangi K. Kumar ,
> Narayanaswamy Sekar , Rama (Iyer 123 Group) <
> kaviran...@gmail.com>, Rangarajan T.N.C. ,
> SRIRAMAJAYAM , Srinivasan Sridharan <
> sridhsriniva...@gmail.com>, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
> yeddanapu...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> But phrases like democracy has won etc. are just that - words. They are
> more to console ourselves.
>
> My take:
>
> 1. The overconfidence of the BJP and the consequent lower turnout.
>
> 2.  Over reliance on one individual  - we need strong state level leaders
> with enough powers.
>
> 3. BJP's National President should be a person with strong popular support
> and more charisma. Just riding on Modi’s back will not do.
>
> 4.  We Hindus will never unite. We specialize in committing hara kiri.
>
> 5. If after Sandeshkhali Mamata still wins, there is no hope for the
> country.
>
> 6. Muslims will in due course of time, will rule the country as they call
> the shots where they are more than 20%, negating the earlier presumption of
> 30%.
>
> 7. We Hindus are so badly divided on caste basis, we would rather prefer
> Islamic rulers than accommodate each other.
>
> 8. We fall prey to cash handouts and freebies and don't care about fiscal
> deficit, prudent financial management etc.
>
> 9. Feeling among the middle class that tax rates were skewed against them,
> what with the high patrol and gas prices.
>
> 10. Failure of the Govt to explain what they have done and why.
>
> 12.  Social media does not help win the elections beyond a point, leaders
> need to be in touch with the ground realities.
>
> 13. At least in T N, internal sabotage by disgruntled leaders who think

Re: Fwd

The foolish move as members we do in a society or in our flats or groups
without a proper thinking and having any back bones, land us only in
troubles, and not the plotters. People read, talk tall on B G and morality.
But slips like ninepins. Because of one non dharmic aptitude; our jati; our
clan; our tongue; our state; our nation; that is all. The clan attitude
leads to destruction as individually lacking courage to call a spade a
spade. Net result is, 614 million people alone will suffer who voted so
foolishly. This is not the first time that happened. Yet we do not learn a
lesson but always are willing to prostrate without any sense. It hurts when
someone writes like this. But a clan which feels Raman aandaal enna
ravananan aandaal enna careless whisper, must pay for it in the ensuing 5
years without progress from all sides but wasting the taxpayers' money.
Many of us may not be there by 2029. But these politicians including the
BJP will be there ; cong will be there; and all our groups, coop society ,
nature , all will continue. Again we will err in the same way even in 2029
,2034 etc. Hence even a BJP like party is sent to adopt the corruption.
When Rama cannot win In Ayodhya , and when opposition have no value in
spite of appearance as victory, or defeat,  IF I WERE THAT MP will only
ditch you people and make as much money as possible. Morality and dharma
are not topics of mere lips utterances.  Better BJP not having even a
majority , may act as opposition for 5 years. May the minority rich become
richer. May the majority who voted this get ruined further. Subramanaya
Bharathi questioned the back bone in the 40s; even after 85 years, even 80s
do not have their back bones. Great   K Rajaram IRS 4624

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 06:44, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: N Sekar 
> Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 3:43 PM
> Subject: Fwd
> To: chittananda...@gmail.com , Kerala Iyer <
> keralaiy...@googlegroups.com>, Rangarajan T.N.C. ,
> Mathangi K. Kumar , chittananda...@gamil.com <
> chittananda...@gamil.com>, Narayanaswamy Sekar , APS
> Mani , Srinivasan Sridharan ,
> SRIRAMAJAYAM , Rama (Iyer 123 Group) <
> kaviran...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
> 
>
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Re: Elections

It is not corruption. It is not biased. It is "US". How we view our home
with green eyes. How did Bheeshma look at Draupadi?. Bias is avoiding the
dharma and feeling our thoughts on our clan pattern at the back. So too
north south trends. When we turn a turtle out of fear even after old age,
purely on vested interests, why not a nation with so many people like
"US"?  Than Nenjarivadhu Poyyatrkka; poytha pin than nenje thannaich
chudum. We think we are upright; are we? KR IRS 4624

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 06:24, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: N Sekar 
> Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Elections
> To: 
> Cc: Chittanandam V. R. , Kerala Iyer <
> keralaiy...@googlegroups.com>, Mathangi K. Kumar ,
> Narayanaswamy Sekar , Rama (Iyer 123 Group) <
> kaviran...@gmail.com>, Rangarajan T.N.C. ,
> SRIRAMAJAYAM , Srinivasan Sridharan <
> sridhsriniva...@gmail.com>, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
> yeddanapu...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> But phrases like democracy has won etc. are just that - words. They are
> more to console ourselves.
>
> My take:
>
> 1. The overconfidence of the BJP and the consequent lower turnout.
>
> 2.  Over reliance on one individual  - we need strong state level leaders
> with enough powers.
>
> 3. BJP's National President should be a person with strong popular support
> and more charisma. Just riding on Modi’s back will not do.
>
> 4.  We Hindus will never unite. We specialize in committing hara kiri.
>
> 5. If after Sandeshkhali Mamata still wins, there is no hope for the
> country.
>
> 6. Muslims will in due course of time, will rule the country as they call
> the shots where they are more than 20%, negating the earlier presumption of
> 30%.
>
> 7. We Hindus are so badly divided on caste basis, we would rather prefer
> Islamic rulers than accommodate each other.
>
> 8. We fall prey to cash handouts and freebies and don't care about fiscal
> deficit, prudent financial management etc.
>
> 9. Feeling among the middle class that tax rates were skewed against them,
> what with the high patrol and gas prices.
>
> 10. Failure of the Govt to explain what they have done and why.
>
> 12.  Social media does not help win the elections beyond a point, leaders
> need to be in touch with the ground realities.
>
> 13. At least in T N, internal sabotage by disgruntled leaders who think
> only seniority counts and not talent or merit.
>
> 14. Modi should rely more on his political colleagues than just on the
> bureaucracy only, however bright they may be.  They can get the job done
> but the politicians know the pulse of the people and know what works and
> what doesn't.
>
> 15. As the saying goes, everything is for the good- at least that's the
> only reason to console ourselves.
>
> 16. Exit polls ( India Today) called the two assembly elections correctly
> but missed the Lok Sabha elections.
>
> 17. Modi has to show more statesmanship to carry his Allies along, as he
> seems to lead  a Coalition  Govt,  in its true sense, for the first time.
>
> 18. Politics is a game of compromises and  rigid stand will not help. He
> needs to emulate Vajpayee even if it means compromises. After all, politics
> is the art of the possible.
>
>  N Sekar
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
> 
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:16 PM, Suryanarayana Ambadipudi
>  wrote:
> Some times “ law of negative returns or law of diminishing returns “ play
> a role
>
> Hindi belt to a great extent rejected lotus
>
> The 2024 Parliamentary Elections results, gave a big jolt to BJP. It seems
> that on its own it is not in a position to form a Government at the Centre.
>
> How ever, with it's Allies, it can form the Government but how far Nitesh
> Kumar and N. Chandrababu Naidu would extend their support to NDA ? I don't
> think would stake his claim to head the Coalition Government at Centre! Why
> because, he never headed Coalition Government, either at State level ( When
> he was Chief Minister of Gujarat) nor during his twin term as the Prime
> Minister.
> Political uncertainty looms large in the Country as of now. However, one
> should respect the verdict delivered by the Voters in the Country. Finally,
> Democracy has Won in the Country. Let us hope that " Good Governance" would
> be delivered by which ever Alliance that Succeeds in forming a Stable
> Government.
>
> Naidu being offered NDA convenor post
>
> Only consolation…. Now we can have a strong opposition ( ? ) 
>
>
>
> *A.SURYANARAYANA*
> *The less you speak,the more you are listened to*
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 12:29 PM, N Sekar  wrote:
>
> If this trend holds, it is a sad reflection as we seem to vote for
> corruption and on caste lines, ignoring the huge progress on
> infrastructure, defense

Fwd: [iyer123] Thoughts

As our voters did ? People always speak nice; but act differently; precious
moments are past history; nice people are lip service; truth is bitter than
the reality; take left turn by giving signal right; villainy is always
infrared and worshipped; BJP might have won; but stabbed by the villains;
as it happens everywhere today. KR  IRS  4624

-- Forwarded message -
From: Rama 
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 01:47
Subject: [iyer123] Thoughts
To: Iyer 


*Its very easy to recollect the precious moments with nice people,*

*But its not easy to forget those nice people who made moments precious.*

Cheers
Rama

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election

People crossed our fingers ? KR

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Re: Ease-Vs-Disease

There is ample evidence to suggest that human interactions with nature can
have significant impacts on human health. Here are some key points:

1.   *Environmental Pollution*: Human activities such as industrialization,
urbanization, and deforestation can lead to environmental pollution,
including air, water, and soil pollution. Exposure to polluted environments
can have detrimental effects on human health, leading to respiratory
problems, cardiovascular diseases, and various other health issues. Numerous
studies have established a clear link between exposure to air pollution and
adverse respiratory health outcomes such as asthma, chronic obstructive
pulmonary disease (COPD), and respiratory infections. Pollutants such as
particulate matter (PM), nitrogen dioxide (NO2), sulphur dioxide (SO2), and
ozone (O3) have been shown to exacerbate respiratory conditions and
increase the risk of developing respiratory diseases. Contamination of
water sources by pollutants such as pathogens, chemicals, and heavy metals
can lead to waterborne diseases such as diarrhoea, cholera, typhoid fever,
and hepatitis. Poor sanitation and inadequate access to clean water
contribute to the transmission of waterborne diseases, particularly in
developing countries.  Changes in land use patterns, deforestation, and
habitat destruction can alter ecosystems and increase the risk of
vector-borne diseases such as malaria, dengue fever, Zika virus, and Lyme
disease. Loss of natural habitats can lead to changes in vector populations
and their behaviour, increasing human exposure to vector-borne pathogens.

2.   The alteration of natural climate patterns due to human-induced
climate change can have profound effects on human health. Heatwaves,
extreme weather events, changes in disease patterns, and food insecurity
are some of the consequences of climate change that can directly impact
human health and well-being. Destruction of natural habitats and loss of
biodiversity can disrupt ecosystems and the services they provide,
including the regulation of diseases. Loss of biodiversity can increase the
risk of zoonotic diseases (diseases transmitted from animals to humans) and
reduce the availability of natural resources essential for human health,
such as medicinal plants.  The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC) has highlighted numerous health impacts associated with climate
change, including heat-related illnesses, cardiovascular diseases,
respiratory diseases, malnutrition, and mental health disorders. Changes in
temperature, precipitation patterns, extreme weather events, and sea-level
rise can exacerbate existing health risks and create new challenges for
public health. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has
highlighted numerous health impacts associated with climate change,
including heat-related illnesses, cardiovascular diseases, respiratory
diseases, malnutrition, and mental health disorders. Changes in
temperature, precipitation patterns, extreme weather events, and sea-level
rise can exacerbate existing health risks and create new challenges for
public health.

3.   *Loss of Biodiversity*: Destruction of natural habitats and loss of
biodiversity can disrupt ecosystems and the services they provide,
including the regulation of diseases. Loss of biodiversity can increase the
risk of zoonotic diseases (diseases transmitted from animals to humans) and
reduce the availability of natural resources essential for human health,
such as medicinal plants.

4.   *Disruption of Ecosystem Services*: Ecosystems provide various
services essential for human health, including clean air, clean water,
pollination of crops, and natural pest control. Human activities that
degrade or destroy ecosystems can lead to a loss of these services, thereby
impacting human health and well-being.

5.   *Emerging Infectious Diseases*: Human encroachment into natural
habitats, wildlife trade, and changes in land use patterns can increase the
risk of emerging infectious diseases. Zoonotic diseases such as Ebola,
HIV/AIDS, SARS, and COVID-19 are examples of diseases that have spilled
over from animals to humans due to human interactions with nature.

6.   *Psychological Well-being*: Contact with nature has been shown to have
positive effects on mental health and psychological well-being. Access to
green spaces, parks, and natural environments can reduce stress, anxiety,
and depression, and improve overall quality of life. Research in the field
of ecotherapy and environmental psychology has demonstrated the positive
effects of contact with nature on mental health and well-being. Spending
time in natural environments, such as parks, forests, and green spaces, has
been associated with reduced stress, anxiety, depression, and improved mood
and cognitive function.

Overall, there is clear evidence that human interactions with nature can
have profound effects on human health, underscoring the importance of
sustainable environmental practices and

Re: [KeralaIyers] Aghori

I am still trying to elicit their concept as even during Adi shankara time
(In 450 BCE- where Buddha was supposed to be 1000 BCE- where Indian
History was reduced by the british by about 1200 to 1500 years - max
muller contribution with Justice Jones) they existed. May be some details
will be visible Thank you KR

On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 at 21:42, Madras Sivaraman 
wrote:

> Good luck to the Aghoris. They do not have to do all these  things when
> other sadhus have achieved what the aghoris want by meditation.
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 4 Jun 2024, at 6:42 AM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Aghori: Ancient Traditions and Modern Perceptions
>
> Aghori cover
>
> Aghori is a Sanskrit word which is derived from word Aghor , (A+Ghor)
> means non dense or  non-surrounded and Aghori means a person who ed what is
> not surrounded with any relations except supreme God Shiv is called Aghori
> .Aghori practices, deeply rooted in Hindu traditions, offer a fascinating
> glimpse into the mystical realms of spirituality. Aghoris, ascetic
> practitioners of unconventional rituals, challenge societal  norms and
> foster a profound connection with the divine. This exploration delves into
> their history, shedding light on their enigmatic practices and dispelling
> common misconceptions. Within the folds of their rituals lies a profound
> wisdom, urging us to reconsider our perceptions of spirituality. Their
> traditions, with their raw intensity, beckon us to explore spirituality in
> its most authentic form. Join us on this enlightening journey as we unravel
> the mysteries of Aghori practices, embracing the unconventional and the
> divine.Top of Form
>
> Understanding Aghori Practices: Embracing Spirituality Beyond Conventions
>
> Aghori practices, rooted in ancient Hinduism, delve deep into the esoteric
> realms of spirituality, challenging societal norms and perceptions.
> Aghoris, ascetic sadhus, engage in unconventional rituals that, to the
> uninitiated, might seem bewildering.
>
> Cremation Ground Meditation: n the mystical realm of Aghori practices, the
> act of meditating in cremation grounds holds profound significance.
> Aghoris, with their unique spiritual path, find solace amidst the ashes,
> symbolizing life’s impermanence. This practice, deeply rooted in ancient
> Hindu beliefs, signifies their detachment from the material world and their
> deep connection with the eternal cycle of existence. By embracing the
> profound teachings of impermanence, they invite spiritual growth and
> enlightenment. Exploring this ritual sheds light on their unconventional
> yet deeply spiritual journey, emphasizing the core essence of their
> beliefs. The cremation ground meditation stands as a testament to the
> Aghori way of life, showcasing their dedication to transcending worldly
> attachments and embracing the eternal truths of existence.
>
> Use of Human Skulls: In the intriguing realm of Aghori rituals, the
> utilization of human skulls as ceremonial bowls unveils a deeper spiritual
> symbolism <https://radioplatonic.com/exploring-hindu-symbols/>. While
> this practice may evoke a sense of astonishment, it embodies the
> fundamental Aghori belief in the interconnectedness of all living beings
> through mortality. The use of human skulls serves as a powerful reminder of
> life’s impermanence, emphasizing the transient nature of the physical form.
> This ritual, rooted in ancient Hindu spirituality, signifies the Aghoris’
> profound understanding of existence and their ability to embrace the
> inevitable cycle of life and death.
>
> Consumption of Human Remains: n the enigmatic world of Aghori practices,
> the consumption of human remains, known as “shavasadhana,” holds a profound
> spiritual significance. While this ritual might evoke intrigue and even
> shock, it embodies the their deep acceptance of life’s diverse facets,
> including mortality. By partaking in this symbolic act, Aghoris emphasize
> their spiritual transcendence, showcasing their detachment from societal
> norms and their profound connection with the universe. This ancient ritual,
> rooted in Hindu spirituality, underlines the Aghoris’ unique perspective on
> existence, urging us to delve into the depths of their beliefs.
>
> Tantric Practices: Within the mystic realm of Aghori practices, tantra
> emerges as a potent force guiding their spiritual journey. The Aghoris
> harness the ancient art of tantra, channeling energy towards profound
> spiritual growth and enlightenment. Rooted in disciplined rituals, tantra
> becomes a transformative tool for these ascetic practitioners, enabling
> them to achieve divine consciousness. While often misunderstood,
> responsible tantra aligns the Aghoris with higher realms of spir

Re: CHENGANNUR MAHADEVA TEMPLE

The visit of Parvathi and Shiva to Agasthya’s home on the southern bank of
the Pamba River is significant. It is believed that Parvathi got her first
menstruation during this visit, marking the onset of her menarche. The
fundamental foundations of the temple are thus anchored in this divine
event, raising the celebration of a girl’s journey into womanhood to a key
celebration.

Intriguingly, the temple’s annual celebration, “Thriputharattu,” centres
upon Goddess Parvathi Devi’s menstruation.. This festival begins when the
goddess’s vestment, the “enapudava,” exhibits indications of menstruation.
Once the temple priests spot these telltale symptoms, they carry the
precious robes to the wise matriarchs of Thazhamon Madom, Sabarimala’s
spiritual leaders’ residence.

In this scenario, the matriarch’s sharp awareness is crucial in
establishing the menstrual flow. Upon confirmation, the temple authorities
close the goddess’s sanctuary sanctorum, signalling the start of the
Thriputharattu celebration. Goddess Devi is moved from her sacred chamber
to the “thriputhu room,” nestled quietly in the nalambalam’s corner.

The celebration unfolds like a religious story, a coordinated symphony of
devotion and tradition. During these four days, the temple’s head priest
addresses his prayers to Lord Shiva, while a Sabarimala-appointed priest
performs rituals honouring the goddess. During the festival, two women,
regarded as “thozhi” or assistants, stand vigil before the goddess’s room,
symbolizing women’s significant role in this sacred dance.

Women from the Pattaru community present the exquisite dance form of
“thiruvathira” within the naalambalam on the festival’s third day, seeking
the goddess’ divine blessings. The grand finale takes place in the early
morning hours of the fourth day. Goddess Devi’s statue goes on a sacred
journey, carried aloft by an elephant and escorted by elephants, hordes of
women, priests, and devoted men, leading to Mithrapuzha Kadavu, a sacred
location one kilometre away on the banks of the Pamba River. The “aarattu,”
or purifying ceremony, will take place here. After the ceremony, Goddess
Devi returns to the temple, and a procession unlike any other begins. Lord
Shiva emerges from the temple on an elephant to meet Devi. They encircle
the temple three times, signifying the sacred union. As the magnificent
procession concludes, Shiva enters the shrine through the eastern portal,
followed by Devi through the western portal.

Until 2012, believers could take home the vesture with the clear marks of
Thriputhu, believing it would bring them prosperity. However, astrologers’
judgment won and urged the swift destruction of these sacred robes after
the madom’s matriarch verified menstruation. The menstrual rituals at
Chengannur Temple remain a curious amalgam of the ages, customs, and
mysticism. While raising controversy and debate, these traditions are an
ongoing witness to the temple’s rich past, challenging assumptions and
inspiring research into the nexus of faith, tradition, and the divine
feminine.K Rajaram IRS  3624  4624

On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 at 21:00, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty <
thatha_patty@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> CHENGANNUR MAHADEVA TEMPLE
>
> COMPILED AND FORWARDED
>
> Dear friends,
>
> My late mother was an ardent devotee of Chengannur Devi. Though Siva
> temple, importance is for Devi in the temple. Chengannur is about 12 KM
> north of Pandalam in the MC Road. The temple is about 1 KM from Bus stand.
> So mostly we availed Taxi to visit the temple. Even in my college days, my
> mother was specific to go to Chengannur temple once a month. She used to
> get some sort of relaxation after visiting the temple and worship Devi.
>
> Whenever I visit native or on important occasions, I used to visit the
> temple with my family and relations in home.
>
> The temple is actually on top of a very small hill. So from MC road, the
> way to temple is steep. Hence taxi is most preferred. Nowadays auto also
> ply.
>
> Normal Entrance is through west nada.
>
> The speciality with the temple is the Devi here is having occasional
> menses, nowadays. I have heard it was monthly menses at one time.
>
> I have compiled the information from different sources. The temple website
> is copyright. So only one can read from there.
>
> Gopalakrishnan 4-6-24
>
> 1 Chengannur Mahadeva Temple- Introduction
>
> Affiliation Hinduism
>
> District Alappuzha
>
> DeityMahadeva (Shiva)
>
> Bhagavati (Bhadrakali, Kannaki, or Parvati)
>
> Festivals  Varshikotsav (yearly festival)
>
> Shivaratri,Chitrapournami,
>
> Special- Thripputhu
>
> ArchitectureDravidian architectureKerala architecture
>
> CreatorPerumthachan
>
> Chengannur Mahadeva Temple (also called Bhagavathy Temple) is a prominent
> Hindu temple, dedicated to Shiva and located in the town of Chengannur in
> the South Indian state of Kerala. The temple is one of the major Shiva
> temples in Kerala, along

To make us a little civil

To Make Us a Little Civil: The Importance of Civility in Society

In a world often marred by division, conflict, and misunderstanding, the
value of civility cannot be overstated. Civility serves as the glue that
binds individuals and communities together, fostering mutual respect,
understanding, and cooperation. This significance of civility in modern
society highlights its role in promoting harmony, empathy, and progress.

Civility acts as a bridge between people of diverse backgrounds, beliefs,
and perspectives. By engaging in civil discourse, individuals can navigate
differences respectfully, seeking common ground and understanding. In a
society marked by polarization, civility offers a pathway to bridge divides
and foster unity. But the uncivilised arbitration will induce only more
uncivilised provocation carried out by the uncivilised in that society
being promoted by the partial brainless.

At the heart of civility lies respect for others. When individuals interact
with courtesy, empathy, and kindness, they acknowledge the inherent worth
and dignity of every person. Respectful communication cultivates trust and
fosters healthy relationships, whether in personal, professional, or
communal settings. However when the ruffians who are supposed to be so
civilised, being so aged, coughs up dirt and gutter, one below must resist;
just because the ruffians protect each other, the society shall not look at
askance and walk back The civility is a dharmic responsibility and not a
Sisupala group avocations to pat and protect each other adharmically.

Civility encourages individuals to consider the perspectives and feelings
of others. By practicing active listening and empathy, people can develop a
deeper understanding of diverse experiences and viewpoints. This empathy
forms the foundation for compassion, cooperation, and social solidarity.
Exactly where the moral of the eldest is scattered to the wind in
unleashing awkward tongue, appraised as brethren’s war-monger-speech, well,
civility must be protected at all cost, by not being blind folded

In a democratic society, civility is essential for the functioning of
institutions and the maintenance of social cohesion. Respectful dialogue,
compromise, and cooperation are fundamental to the democratic process,
enabling diverse voices to be heard and consensus to be reached. Without
civility, democratic institutions can falter, leading to polarization,
gridlock, and erosion of trust. Accordingly where they are not carried out
with the mutual instinct but only a bias judgement is considered as a cut
throat measure even being a grown persons, erosion is inevitable; and so
alternatively the weeds a few trying against the mahatma Gandhi must be
chopped, Subramanya Bharathi said that only.

Cultivating Personal Growth: Individually, practicing civility fosters
personal growth and development. By cultivating virtues such as patience,
tolerance, and humility, individuals enhance their emotional intelligence
and interpersonal skills. Civil behaviour promotes self-awareness,
resilience, and adaptability, empowering individuals to navigate life's
challenges with grace and integrity. Of course, where a few try to threaten
the glory of the high culture out of caste, creed and sect divisions,
looking at askance is a threat to the society only.

In a world fraught with discord and discordance, civility serves as a
beacon of hope and possibility. By embracing civility in our interactions
and relationships, we can create a more inclusive, respectful, and
compassionate society. As we strive to make us a little civil, we pave the
way for a brighter future grounded in empathy, understanding, and mutual
respect. Provided we shut the evil or drive out the evil forces trying to
molest the dharma.

K Rajaram IRS 3624 4624

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Aghori

Aghori: Ancient Traditions and Modern Perceptions

Aghori cover

Aghori is a Sanskrit word which is derived from word Aghor , (A+Ghor) means
non dense or  non-surrounded and Aghori means a person who is not
surrounded with any relations except supreme God Shiv is called Aghori
.Aghori practices, deeply rooted in Hindu traditions, offer a fascinating
glimpse into the mystical realms of spirituality. Aghoris, ascetic
practitioners of unconventional rituals, challenge societal norms and
foster a profound connection with the divine. This exploration delves into
their history, shedding light on their enigmatic practices and dispelling
common misconceptions. Within the folds of their rituals lies a profound
wisdom, urging us to reconsider our perceptions of spirituality. Their
traditions, with their raw intensity, beckon us to explore spirituality in
its most authentic form. Join us on this enlightening journey as we unravel
the mysteries of Aghori practices, embracing the unconventional and the
divine.Top of Form

Understanding Aghori Practices: Embracing Spirituality Beyond Conventions

Aghori practices, rooted in ancient Hinduism, delve deep into the esoteric
realms of spirituality, challenging societal norms and perceptions.
Aghoris, ascetic sadhus, engage in unconventional rituals that, to the
uninitiated, might seem bewildering.

Cremation Ground Meditation: n the mystical realm of Aghori practices, the
act of meditating in cremation grounds holds profound significance.
Aghoris, with their unique spiritual path, find solace amidst the ashes,
symbolizing life’s impermanence. This practice, deeply rooted in ancient
Hindu beliefs, signifies their detachment from the material world and their
deep connection with the eternal cycle of existence. By embracing the
profound teachings of impermanence, they invite spiritual growth and
enlightenment. Exploring this ritual sheds light on their unconventional
yet deeply spiritual journey, emphasizing the core essence of their
beliefs. The cremation ground meditation stands as a testament to the
Aghori way of life, showcasing their dedication to transcending worldly
attachments and embracing the eternal truths of existence.

Use of Human Skulls: In the intriguing realm of Aghori rituals, the
utilization of human skulls as ceremonial bowls unveils a deeper spiritual
symbolism . While this
practice may evoke a sense of astonishment, it embodies the fundamental
Aghori belief in the interconnectedness of all living beings through
mortality. The use of human skulls serves as a powerful reminder of life’s
impermanence, emphasizing the transient nature of the physical form. This
ritual, rooted in ancient Hindu spirituality, signifies the Aghoris’
profound understanding of existence and their ability to embrace the
inevitable cycle of life and death.

Consumption of Human Remains: n the enigmatic world of Aghori practices,
the consumption of human remains, known as “shavasadhana,” holds a profound
spiritual significance. While this ritual might evoke intrigue and even
shock, it embodies the their deep acceptance of life’s diverse facets,
including mortality. By partaking in this symbolic act, Aghoris emphasize
their spiritual transcendence, showcasing their detachment from societal
norms and their profound connection with the universe. This ancient ritual,
rooted in Hindu spirituality, underlines the Aghoris’ unique perspective on
existence, urging us to delve into the depths of their beliefs.

Tantric Practices: Within the mystic realm of Aghori practices, tantra
emerges as a potent force guiding their spiritual journey. The Aghoris
harness the ancient art of tantra, channeling energy towards profound
spiritual growth and enlightenment. Rooted in disciplined rituals, tantra
becomes a transformative tool for these ascetic practitioners, enabling
them to achieve divine consciousness. While often misunderstood,
responsible tantra aligns the Aghoris with higher realms of spirituality.
Explore the sacred path of Aghori tantra, where energies merge with
enlightenment, revealing a profound connection to the divine.

Ascetic Lifestyle: At the heart of Aghori practices lies an ascetic
lifestyle, where simplicity reigns supreme. They consciously choose to
detach from societal comforts, leading lives devoid of material
possessions. This intentional renunciation symbolizes their unwavering
focus on spiritual pursuits, prioritizing the quest for enlightenment over
worldly desires. By embracing minimalism and eschewing the trappings of
modernity, Aghoris exemplify a profound dedication to their spiritual
journey. Their ascetic lifestyle stands as a testament to their commitment,
showcasing the transformative power of renunciation.

Bhairava Worship: Central to Aghori spirituality is the profound worship

of
Lord Bhairava, a fierce manifestation

The Power of Consciousness According to Jung

“Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you
will call it fate.” Jung

Unveiling Fate: The Power of Consciousness According to Jung

"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you
will call it fate." This profound statement by Carl Jung, one of the
pioneers of modern psychology, encapsulates the essence of his theory and
the transformative potential of self-awareness. Jung’s insights into the
unconscious mind revolutionized the way we perceive ourselves and our place
in the world. In this essay, we will explore Jung’s concept of the
unconscious, its influence on our lives, and the significance of bringing
it into consciousness.

Central to Jung’s theory is the idea of the unconscious as a vast reservoir
of thoughts, emotions, and memories that exist outside of our conscious
awareness. *Unlike Sigmund Freud*, who viewed the unconscious as a
repository of repressed desires and instincts, ( subject matter of the
cause of sleep and dreams at different levels) Jung saw it as a source of
wisdom and creativity, containing not only personal experiences but also
collective symbols and archetypes inherited from humanity’s evolutionary
past. {Thoughts are the roots of future thinking; storing the past
experiences the Good, the bad and even the ugly; and Vedas do believe that
storing the previous births’ Karmas} When the unconsciousness tortures, the
guilts carried out, sleeplessness would occur. And the reservoir might get
out even the oldest knowledge, when demanded; also unfold ideas to tackle
the upfronts.

According to Jung, the unconscious plays a significant role in shaping our
behaviour, beliefs, and perceptions of reality. Much of what we think and
do *is influenced by unconscious processes*, which operate beneath the
surface of our awareness. These unconscious patterns can manifest in
various ways, from recurring dreams and slips of the tongue to irrational
fears and emotional reactions. Despite their hidden nature, they exert a
powerful influence on our lives, often determining the course of our
actions without our conscious consent.

Jung believed that acknowledging and integrating the contents of the
unconscious is essential for achieving psychological wholeness and
individuation, a process of self-realization and personal development. By
bringing unconscious material into consciousness through techniques
such as dream
analysis, active imagination, and introspection, individuals can gain
insight into their inner workings and uncover hidden motivations behind
their thoughts and behaviours. This process allows them to reclaim agency
over their lives and break free from the grip of unconscious forces that
might otherwise dictate their fate.

The journey of making the unconscious conscious is not without challenges.
It requires courage to confront the shadow aspects of oneself—the dark and
often neglected parts of the psyche that contain repressed emotions, fears,
and desires. However, Jung argued that embracing these aspects is essential
for personal growth and inner transformation. By integrating the shadow
rather than repressing it, individuals can tap into a deeper reservoir of
creativity, vitality, and authenticity, leading to a more fulfilling and
meaningful existence.

This what Tiruvalluar said as “” THAN NENJARIVADHU POYYATRKA, POYTHA PIN
THAN NENJE THANNAI SUDUM.The unconsciousness shall speak when human refuse
to yield to the goodness. One who defies the self, even could become Mad.
The truth speaker always. Thoughts blowing as waves. Ripples burst when the
end of turmoil of te mind, whips the quite waters of the storage,
uncontrollably. Krishna in chap 2 tells Arjuna about the Varna Dharma,
where one, refused to do carry out, what is needed of him, the world will
laugh at. Remember the song of Balachander film, “Kai kotti sirippaargal;
OOrar sirippargal;” that is the illusions that will flash wherever,
whenever he is live. Unconscious burst, tickling the conscious awareness.

shri bhagavan uvacha

kutastva kashmalamidam vishame samupasthitam

anarya-jushtamaswargyam akirti-karam arjuna

BG 2.2: The Supreme Lord said: My dear Arjun, how has this delusion
overcome you in this hour of peril? It is not befitting an honourable
person. It leads not to the higher abodes, but to disgrace.

गुरूनहत्वा हि महानुभावान्

श्रेयो भोक्तुं भैक्ष्यमपीह लोके |begging

हत्वार्थकामांस्तु गुरूनिहैव

भुञ्जीय भोगान् रुधिरप्रदिग्धान् || 5||

gurūnahatvā hi mahānubhāvān

śhreyo bhoktuṁ bhaikṣhyamapīha loke begging

hatvārtha-kāmāṁstu gurūnihaiva

bhuñjīya bhogān rudhira-pradigdhān

bhoktum—to enjoy life; bhaikṣhyam—by begging; api—even; iha loke—in this
world;

BG 2.5: It would be better to live in this world by begging, than to enjoy
life by killing these noble elders, who are my teachers. If we kill them,
the wealth and pleasures we enjoy will be tainted with blood.

स्वधर्ममपि चावेक्ष्य न विकम्पितुमर्हसि |

धर्म्याद्धि युद्धाच्छ्रेयोऽन्यत्क्षत्रियस्य न

PITU GOTRA CONTD K RAJARAM IRS 3624 4624 WOMEN BRILLIANTS AS BRAHMINS

PITU GOTRA CONTD K RAJARAM IRS 3624 4624 WOMEN BRILLIANTS AS BRAHMINS

 We are never bothered about the women except 20% good ones
such as husbands, Fathers, Brothers Thatha. How many leading women who
exhibited the equal talents as men; but have you ever written about them,
their talks, their writings, their skills, their hard work ever in FB, WA,
Media etc? You are all willing to write about some male in the female
Pseudonym but have you ever thought whether that name -lender, really lived
a rightful life and did that writer ever write, my wife was/ is or
will be. Herds’
instinct; would like to get a lot of likes; stay together; even if it is
shallow, like Bhishma, Drona and Kripa calling themselves as ACHARYAS.
Staying with the clan even at the cost of giving up the goodmen; and then
talking tall about the cantankerous society, in which they are the specific
isotopes. So, let’s see some women; they even today might have been spoken
ill, even among us. But they lived and showed their lives.

1 Y.G. Srimati (1926 - 2007) 20th century musician, dancer and painter
born in Mysore, India. From a very young age, she was trained in Indian
classical music, dance and painting . Y.G. Srimati became a highly
accomplished vocalist and performer of Carnatic music and became a
participant of the Indian Independence Movement from Chennai. She was
deeply influenced by Mahatma Gandhi and at rallies addressed by him she
would perform devotional songs in various Indian languages. She dedicated
her art work to nationalist themes, often painting figures from Hindu
mythology, her style being influenced by Nandalal Bose of the Bengal School
of Art and the frescoes of the Ellora and Ajanta Caves. Her talent was
recognized in 1952 during her first solo exhibition at the Government
Museum, Madras (now Chennai).Born in 1926 in Mysore then in the Kingdom of
Mysore. Srimati grew up in Madras (now Chennai) in a Tamil Brahmin family.
Her older brother, Y.G. Doraisami, mentored her in classical dance,
singing, instrumental music and painting.[3] Her grandfather was the chief
astrologer in the court of the Maharaja of Mysore. The family initials of
'Y.G.' was an honorific title granted by the Maharaja. Y.G. Srimati, Indian
artist whose painting figures were Hindu mythology and her style was
influenced by Nandalal Bose & frescoes of the Ajanta Caves.

2  Indra Nooyi (née Krishnamurthy; born October 28, 1955) is an
Indian-born American business executive who was the chairman and chief
executive officer (CEO) of PepsiCo from 2006 to 2018. She has consistently
ranked among the world's 100 most powerful women. In 2014, she was ranked
at number 13 on the Forbes list, and the second most powerful woman on the
Fortune list in 2015 and 2017. She is on the boards of Amazon and the
International Cricket Council

Nooyi was born on October 28, 1955, in a Tamil Hindu Brahmin family in
Madras (now known as Chennai), T Nagar (my neighbors) {Right side close
distance was Indra and the left side of home closely residing was future CM
J jayalalitha and both from one school} Tamil Nadu, India.4] Nooyi did her
schooling in Holy Angels Anglo Indian Higher Secondary School in T. Nagar.
Pondy Bazaar. Nooyi's mother was a homemaker. While not having a formal
education herself, her mother devised strategic games at dinner for her
daughters. When Nooyi and her sister were between eight and 11 years old,
their mother instructed them to write a speech about what they would do if
they held a position of power such as president or prime minister. If Nooyi
fell short in a task, her paternal grandfather (a judge) would make her
write, "I will not make excuses" 200 times on a piece of paper. While
completing her studies Nooyi played guitar in a band, and excelled at
cricket Nooyi received bachelor's degrees in physics, chemistry and
mathematics from Madras Christian College of the University of Madras in
1975, and a Post Graduate Programme Diploma from Indian Institute of
Management Calcutta in 1976 In 1978, Nooyi was admitted to Yale School of
Management and moved to the United States, where she earned a master's
degree in public and private management in 1980

Awards and recognition

In January 2008, Nooyi was elected chairwoman of the U.S.-India Business
Council (USIBC). Nooyi leads USIBC's Board of Directors, an assembly of
more than 60 senior executives representing a cross-section of American
industry.

In 2008, Nooyi was elected to the Fellowship of the American Academy of
Arts and Sciences She was also named one of America's Best Leaders by U.S.
News & World Report.

Nooyi was named CEO of the Year by the Global Supply Chain Leaders Group in
July 2009.[59] That year, she was also considered one of "The TopGun CEOs"
by Brendan Wood International, an advisory agency.

Fortune magazine has named Nooyi number one on its annual ranking of Most
Powerful Women in business for 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010.

Nooyi was named to Institutional

Re: [iyer123] ஐந்தறிவு நாய் vs ஆறறிவு மனிதன.

Story of Saramā

Bitch of the Devas. Śyāma and Śabala, sons of Saramā, were two prominent
messengers of Yama and they possessed four eyes each. The offsprings of
these dogs are called Sārameyas. The Ṛgveda and Mahābhārata contain a story
about Saramā cursing Janamejaya.

II  King Janamejaya was engaged, together with his brothers–
Shrutasena, Ugrasena and Bhimasena, in a long sacrifice. The celestial dog,
the son of Sarama, who entered the sacrificial ground, was beaten up by
Janamejaya’s brothers. Crying in pain, the dog went to his mother who asked
him: “Why are you crying? Who beat you?” The dog answered: “Janamejaya’s
brothers beat me up!” “You might have done something wrong to get this
beating” observed the mother. When the son said “No! I didn’t do anything
wrong! I didn’t even look at the sacrificial offerings! I didn’t even lick
it!”, Sarama was highly distressed and arrived, with his son, to
Janamejaya’s presence and cursed him:

“Just as you have caused pain to my son, who did not do anything to warrant
that pain, you too, in near future, will experience a great fear when you
least expected it!”

Listening to Sarama, Janamejaya was extremely sad. He completed his
sacrifice and returned to his capital Hastinapur, and tried to get a priest
who can cleanse him of his sins and release him of the curse.

Once while hunting within his own kingdom, he saw the hermitage where Rishi
Shrutashrava was living with his son Somashrava. Janamejaya requested his
son for himself as a priest. Shrutashrava responded:

“King Janamejaya! This son of mine was born out of the energy of my Tapas,
when a snake drank up my semen. He is a great ascetic himself, capable of
cleansing you of all evils, except of those you might have committed
against Lord Shiva. But he is strictly following one vow – he grants
anything asked by a Brahmin. If this condition is agreeable, you may take
him as your priest.”

Accepting the condition, Janamejaya brought Somashrava to Hastinapur and
instructed his brothers:

“I have chosen him as our priest. Whatever is asked by him should
immediately be done without any debate!” Saying thus, he went off to
Takshashila to establish his control over that region.

Uttanka wows to revenge Takshaka

Meanwhile, Rishi Dhaumya had three disciples – Upamanyu, Aruni and Veda.
Veda served his teacher at his residence with a lot of hard work. Everyday,
like a bullock engaged to drag a big burden, he did all sorts of hard work
for his teacher, without complaining about hot or cold weather. After a
long time, his teacher was satisfied, and transferred to him the great
knowledge. Thus having a tough time at his teacher and knowing the sorrows
of serving a tough master, Veda did not wish to trouble his disciples.
Often he used to be engaged by J

III Book 6 Valmiki Ramayanam Yudha kandam:” Sita, who had been
overwhelmed with misery on hearing Ravana’s words, was comforted and
rendered happy by Sarama, as the parched earth by rain. Desiring to be of
further service to her friend, the affectionate female titan, skilled in
the knowledge of time and place, smiling, began to speak in apposite terms,
saying: —

“O Dark-eyed Lady, I am able to carry a message of goodwill from you to
Rama and return secretly, for when I am journeying in the sky, that is
extended without support, not even Pavana or Garuda can follow in my wake.”

Thus spoke Sarama, and Sita, her voice no longer charged with grief,
answered in gentle and caressing tones, saying:—

“You are capable of ascending to heaven itself or descending into the
nethermost regions. Learn what is best for you to do, if thine intention is
to please me and your resolve is fixed. I wish to know what Ravana is doing
now. That powerful magician, the ruthless Ravana, a real Ravana to his
foes, has bemused me with his wickedness as wine recently imbibed; he
threatens me continually and insults me unceasingly while titans of
frightful aspect surround me; I am a prey to terror and my spirit is
uneasy. He causes me to tremble with fear in this Ashoka Grove where I am
confined. If in the assembly there be any talk of delivering me or keeping
me captive, then communicate the decision taken to me and you will render
me a great service.”

Thus spoke Sita and Sarama answered in gentle tones, wiping the tears from
her face the while:—

“If this be your wish, I will go at once and when I have discovered his
design, I will return, O Maithili, O Daughter of Janaka!”

With these words she returned to where Ravana was to hear what decision he
had taken with his ministers.

Having listened secretly and learnt of the plans that perverse wretch had
made, she returned to the enchanting Ashoka Grove. On entering there, she
beheld the daughter of Janaka waiting for her, like unto Lakshmi bereft of
her lotus.

Thereupon Sita ardently embraced Sarama who had returned and addressed her
in friendly tones, offering her het own seat, saying:—

“Rest at ease and tell me exactly all that

Re: [KeralaIyers] Kaipuzha Sree Krishna Temple at Kulanada Near Pandalam -

iN CONTRAST SEE HOW KERALA VIEWS WITH YAKSHINI ETC

Banyan trees figure prominently in several Asian and Pacific religions and
myths, including:

In Hinduism, the leaf of the banyan tree is said to be the resting place
for the god Krishna.

In the Bhagavat Gita, Krishna said, "There is a banyan tree which has its
roots upward and its branches down, and the Vedic hymns are its leaves. One
who knows this tree is the knower of the Vedas." (Bg 15.1) Here the
material world is described as a tree whose roots are upwards and branches
are below. We have experience of a tree whose roots are upward: if one
stands on the bank of a river or any reservoir of water, he can see that
the trees reflected in the water are upside down. The branches go downward
and the roots upward. Similarly, this material world is a reflection of the
spiritual world. The material world is but a shadow of reality. In the
shadow there is no reality or substantiality, but from the shadow we can
understand that there is substance and reality.

Vat Purnima is a Hindu festival related to the banyan tree. Vat Purnima is
observed by married women in North India and in the Western Indian states
of Maharashtra, Goa, Gujarat. During the three days of the month of
Jyeshtha in the Hindu calendar (which falls in May–June in the Gregorian
calendar) married women observe a fast and tie threads around a banyan tree
and pray for the well-being of their husbands.

In Buddhism's Pali canon, the banyan (Pali: nigrodha) is referenced
numerous times. Typical metaphors allude to the banyan's epiphytic nature,
likening the banyan's supplanting of a host tree as comparable to the way
sensual desire (kāma) overcomes humans.

In Guam, the Chamorro people believe in tales of taotaomona, duendes, and
other spirits. Taotaomona are spirits of the ancient Chamorro that act as
guardians to banyan trees.

In Vietnamese mythology of the Mid-Autumn Festival, the dark markings on
the Moon are a banyan, a magical tree originally planted by a man named
Cuội on Earth. When his wife watered it with unclean water, the tree
uprooted itself with the man hanging on it and flew to the Moon, where he
eternally accompanied the Moon Lady and the Jade Rabbit

In the Philippines, they are usually referred to as balete trees, which are
home to certain deities and spirits.

In Okinawa, the tree is referred to as gajumaru, which, according to
traditional folklore, is the home for the mythical Kijimuna.[citation
needed]

Notable banyan trees

In Pakistan, efforts to protect and conserve banyan trees have been notably
championed by environmental activists such as Aneeqa Bashir.

Thimmamma Marrimanu is a banyan tree in Anantapur, located circa 35
kilometres (22 mi) from the town of Kadiri in the state of Andhra Pradesh,
India. It is present in the Indian Botanical Gardens and is more than 550
years old. Its canopy covers 19,107 m2 (4.721 acres) [28]

One of the largest trees, the Great Banyan is found in Kolkata, India. Its
canopy covers 4.67 acres (1.89 ha)

Another such tree, Dodda Aalada Mara as in "Big Banyan Tree", is found in
the village of Ramohalli, on the outskirts of Bangalore, India; it has a
spread of circa 2.5 acres.

The Iolani Palace banyans in Honolulu, Hawaii. In the 1880s Queen Kapiolani
planted two banyan trees within the Iolani Palace grounds. These trees have
since grown into large groupings of trees on the old historic palace
grounds.

Maui, Hawaii has the Banyan tree in Lahaina planted by William Owen Smith
on 24 April 1873, in Lahaina's Courthouse Square to mark the 50th
anniversary of the arrival of the first American Protestant mission. It has
grown to cover two-thirds of an acre. The tree was severely damaged by the
2023 Hawaii wildfires from 8–9 August which also severely damaged the town
of Lahaina

One large banyan tree, Kalpabata, is inside the premises of Jagannath Temple
in Puri. It is considered sacred by the devotees and is supposed to be more
than 500 years old.

A large banyan tree lives in Cypress Gardens, at the Legoland theme park
located in Winter Haven, Florida. It was planted in 1939 in a 5-gallon
bucket.

Adayar Banyan Tree, located in the Theosophical Society Campus in Adayar,
Chennai, India, is around 450 years old.The banyan tree from Miary,
Madagascar which is said to be 1,700 years old

Xxx

Under the Banyan tree (AALA MARAM; VATA VRIKSHA) sat the sages of India –
those who rejected the flesh and the material world and aspired for the
soul alone. This was the favorite tree of the sadhu, the wandering hermit.
The greatest of hermits, Shiva, was often represented in its shade as a
stone called the Lingam. Being an ascetic, Shiva was not part of the
village; he was a hermit not a householder; he did not fear ghosts and so
was comfortable staying in the shade of this immortal, never dying, never
renewing plant.

In iconography, Shiva is visualized as Dakshinamurti, he who faces the
south, south being the direction of

Re: [iyer123] Thoughts

Truth is bitter; exactly; in the race some do not even start though in the
race; loko binna ruchi. KR

On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 at 02:01, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr Rama,
> Excellent quotes. Last line is very important to remember by some members
> in the group.
> Gopalakrishan
>
> On Monday, 3 June, 2024 at 10:47:56 am IST, Rama 
> wrote:
>
>
> *Every teacher once  was a student.*
> *Every winner once was a loser.*
> *Every expert once was a beginner.*
> *But all of them have crossed the bridge called learning.*
>
> Cheers
> Rama
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Re: Thoughts.

So true! And as per physics all have one source like are only women, still
a human, a race participant, a learner always and still exist as the same
forms. KR IRS 3624

On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 at 01:22, SRIRAMAJAYAM  wrote:

> Every mother-in-law was a daughter-in- law... But many ensure havoc.
> 
>
> On Mon, 3 Jun, 2024, 10:47 am Rama,  wrote:
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>> *Every teacher once  was a student.*
>> *Every winner once was a loser.*
>> *Every expert once was a beginner.*
>> *But all of them have crossed the bridge called learning.*
>>
>> Cheers
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>>
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Re: The Macro Paradigm

welcome KR

On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 at 00:00, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Raja ram Sir,
> You are another chat GPT,as extensive and as responsive,thank you Sir.
> YM
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:44 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Dynamics of Paradigm Shifts: Exploring Transformations in Thought and
>> Practice
>>
>> The technology of the paradigm. a typical example or pattern of
>> something; a model: A paradigm is a way of looking at something. The
>> word paradigm comes up a lot in the academic, scientific, and business
>> worlds. A new paradigm in business could mean a new way of reaching
>> customers and making money. In education, relying on lectures is a
>> paradigm: if you suddenly shifted to all group work, that would be a new
>> paradigm. Thus, each is a system; and from one, another gets the shape
>> differently. Hence, we grow in paradigm; in that way the old one may go
>> wrong? If that was wrong. change is also wrong. And if we were to consider
>> that for millennium years in the wrong paradigm or right paradigm is only a
>> pure assumption, seeking it through or perceiving within, our HUBBLE. So,
>> can we formulate a universal theory?
>>
>> 1. Understanding Paradigms:
>>
>> Thomas Kuhn argued that science does not evolve gradually toward truth.
>>
>> Science has a paradigm that remains constant before going through a
>> paradigm shift when current theories can’t explain some phenomenon, and
>> someone proposes a new theory.
>>
>> A scientific revolution occurs when: (i) the new paradigm better explains
>> the observations and offers a model that is closer to the objective,
>> external reality; and (ii) the new paradigm is incommensurate with the 
>> old.For
>> example, Lamarckian evolution was replaced with Darwin’s theory of
>> evolution by natural selection.
>>
>> Paradigm Shift
>>
>> Thomas Kuhn attacks “development-by-accumulation” views of science, which
>> hold that science progresses linearly by accumulating theory-independent
>> facts.  Kuhn looked at the history of science and argued that science does
>> not simply progress by stages based upon neutral observations (e.g.,
>> Positivism).
>>
>> For Kuhn, the history of science is characterized by revolutions in
>> scientific outlook. Scientists have a worldview or “paradigm.”  A paradigm
>> is a universally recognizable scientific achievement that, for a time,
>> provides model problems and solutions to a community of practitioners.
>>
>> A paradigm is a basic framework of assumptions, principals and methods
>> from which the members of the community work.
>>
>> It is a set of norms that tell scientists how to think and behave, and 
>> although
>> there are rival schools of thought in science, there is still a single
>> paradigm that all scientists accept uncritically.
>>
>> Scientists accept the dominant paradigm until anomalies are thrown up.  
>> Scientists
>> then begin to question the basis of the paradigm itself; new theories
>> emerge which challenge the dominant paradigm. Eventually, one of these new
>> theories becomes accepted as the new paradigm. And here also we built
>> the paradigm and we are questioning it to change. Thus, we are always under
>> the pressures of a new paradigm.
>>
>> During different periods of science, certain perspectives held sway over
>> the thinking of researchers.  A particular work may “define the legitimate
>> problems and methods of a research field for succeeding generations of
>> practitioners.”
>>
>> According to Kuhn, knowledge that does not evolve according to the four
>> main phases may not be considered scientific.
>>
>> paradigm shift cycle
>>
>> Phase 1: Pre-science
>>
>> The pre-paradigmatic state refers to a period before a scientific
>>
>> consensus has been reached.
>>
>> Disorganized and diverse activity.
>>
>> The constant debate over fundamentals.
>>
>> As many theories as there are theorists.
>>
>> No commonly accepted observational basis. The conflicting theories are
>> constituted with their own set of theory-dependent observations.
>>
>> Phase 2: Normal Science
>>
>> (most common – science is usually stable)
>>
>> A paradigm is established, which lays the foundations for legitimate work
>> within the discipline. Scientific work then consists of the articulation of
>> the paradigm in solving puzzles that it throws up.
>>
>>

Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: THIRUMANDHAMKUNNU TEMPLE-FORWARD

where autochthonous deities have no forms. Their shrines are hypaethral.

It sounds like you're describing a belief system where the deities are
considered to be without physical form and their shrines are open to the
sky, or hypaethral. This concept is fascinating and reflects the diversity
of religious and spiritual beliefs across different cultures and
traditions. In such belief systems, the focus might be more on the
spiritual essence or energy of the deities rather than their physical
representations. It often leads to a different kind of worship or
connection with the divine, one that emphasizes the boundless and formless
nature of the divine presence. The worship of only an Idol of ROCK or
PANCHA LOKA etc do exist; and calling that as “autochthonous deities” could
be a misnomer; hypaethral temples are found, especially where deity is
worshipped as Maha Kali also @ Durga right from Vaishnavi devi, Ujjayini,
samaya Nallur etc. And all the Bhagavathy temples have come up only after
the tantric worship of Kerala; The Yakshini concept was stronger in Kerala
and Karnataka only and many films of Yakshini in Malayalam and Kannada ran
well. The deity has a shape and not AROOPAM. Bhagavan was worshipped as
Brahmam. When Tantric worship was rooted in Kerala through the Namboodiris,
Saktham was followed, where morning roopam was Saraswati; afternoon was
Lakshmi; and night went with Bhadra Kali. And a great Don who made fun of
SamayaNallur, had to eat his own words now when he saw a lot of Bhadra
Kalis.

   Cathedral, Hypaethral etc are English Jargons of architecture.
Generally, Maha Kali temples have no roof and are open to the sky like TN
Vakkaliamman Temple. Two versions are spoken; one when the temple of Kali
worship started to be built up, someone died and thus left unfinished; two
The Amman sakthi is so high that she is allowed to grow as she needs
without restrictions. So, the sky roof alone existed.

  Generally, the worship of the form of Maha Kali alone prevailed for
many hundred years through the Atharva Vedic worship of few Nambudiri
Families, threatening the people through a lot of black magic. People were
so terrorised that they would not even cross the Namboodiris or take a look
at them. Incidentally, it is seen that the Bhagavathi name was pronounced
in Buddhist history. Jains tirthankaras adopted Bhagavathy as Primordial
Goddess. South TN had the impact to a lesser instant. The shetrams were
believed to be created by Parasurama which is in Treta yuga, while Kerala
temple worship is never mentioned so high before the entry of Cheran kings.
Anyway, some interesting factors of Kerala temples are being known.
  K Rajaram
IRS 3624

II  Chapter 6 - On the description of the Devī’s Vibhutis (powers)

Book 3

1-10. Brahma said :-- When I thus asked with great humility, the Devī
Bhāgavatī, the Prime Sakti, She addressed me thus in the following sweet
words :-- There is oneness always between me and the Puruṣa; there is NO
difference whatsoever at any time between me and the Puruṣa (Male, the
Supreme Self). Who is I, that is Puruṣa; who is Puruṣa, that is I. The
difference between force and the receptacle of force is due to error. He
who knows the subtle difference between us two, is certainly intelligent;
he is freed from this bondage of Samsara; there is no manner of doubt in
this.

The One Second less Eternal ever-lasting Brahma substance becomes dual
at the time of creation. {Sankya yoga of Kapila Rishi} As a lamp, though
one, becomes two by virtue of adjuncts; as a face, though one, becomes two,
as reflected in a mirror; as one man becomes double by his shadow, we
become reflected into many, by virtue of different Antah Karaṇas (mind,
buddhi, and ahankara) created by Maya. The necessity of creation, again and
again, after the Prakriti Pralayas is due to the fructification of those
Karmas of the Jīvas, whose fruits were not enjoyed before the Pralayas; so
when creation again commences, the above said differences are found to
appear; Brahman is the material cause of these changes; without Brahman as
the basis, the existence of Maya is simply impossible. It is therefore that
in Maya and Maya’s action, Brahman is interwoven. For this reason, as many
differences are found in Maya, so many differences exist in Brahman. {Based
on Brahadaranyaka Upanishad Yagna valkya Vs Janaka and others}



The Māyā and Brahmā appear as two and hence all the differences, visible
and invisible, have come forth. Only during creation are these differences
conceived. When everything melts away, i.e., there comes the Pralaya or
general dissolution, then, I am not female, I am not male, nor I am
hermaphrodite. I then remain as Brahmā with Māyā latent in it. During the
time of creation I am Śrī (wealth), Buddhi (intellect), Dhriti,
(fortitude). Smriti (recollection), Sraddhā (faith), Medhā (intelligence),
Dayā (mercy), Lajjā (modesty), Kshudhā (hunger),

The Value of Money in Bhartrhari’ s Philosophy

Let us keep a firm grip upon our money, for without it the whole assembly
of virtues are but as blades of grass. Bhartrhari

The Value of Money in Bhartrhari’ s Philosophy

In the quote attributed to Bhartrhari, the ancient Indian philosopher and
poet, lies a profound insight into the role of money in human life.
Bhartrhari suggests that money is not merely a means of acquiring material
wealth but also a foundation upon which virtues are built. This essay
delves into Bhartrhari’ s perspective on the significance of money and
explores its implications for understanding the interplay between material
wealth and moral virtues.

Bhartrhari’ s assertion that "without [money], the whole assembly of
virtues are but as blades of grass" implies that money plays a crucial role
in sustaining and nurturing virtues. In the context of ancient Indian
society, where material wealth often determined social status and power,
money served as a means of accessing education, healthcare, and resources
essential for cultivating virtues such as compassion, generosity, and
integrity.

Bhartrhari’ s statement acknowledges the dual nature of money – its
potential to corrupt or elevate human character. While excessive attachment
to wealth can lead to greed, selfishness, and moral degradation, judicious
use of money can facilitate the expression of virtues by enabling
individuals to contribute to the welfare of society, support noble causes,
and alleviate suffering.

In Bhartrhari’ s view, money empowers individuals to manifest virtues in
tangible ways. It provides the means to support one's family, contribute to
the community, and pursue noble endeavours. Moreover, financial stability
enhances one's confidence, independence, and ability to make ethical
choices, thereby reinforcing the connection between material prosperity and
moral virtues.

Despite the instrumental value of money in fostering virtues, Bhartrhari
warns against the dangers of excessive materialism. He cautions that an
obsessive pursuit of wealth can lead to spiritual impoverishment,
alienation from moral principles, and a distorted sense of self-worth.
Thus, while money may enhance the expression of virtues, it should not be
equated with moral excellence or used as a measure of human worth.

Bhartrhari’ s wisdom invites us to cultivate a balanced perspective on
money, recognizing its importance in facilitating the practice of virtues
while guarding against its potential to overshadow higher spiritual and
ethical aspirations. By viewing money as a tool rather than an end in
itself, individuals can harness its potential for personal and collective
flourishing while upholding moral integrity and spiritual well-being.

அதிகாரம் 76 / Chapter 76 – பொருள் செயல்வகை குறள் 751: பொருளல் லவரைப்
பொருளாகச் செய்யும் பொருளல்ல தில்லை பொருள் மு.வ விளக்க உரை: ஒரு பொருளாக
மதிக்கத் தகாதவரையும், மதிப்புடைய வராக செய்வதாகிய பொருள் அல்லாமல் சிறப்புடைய
பொருள் வேறு இல்லை.

In essence, Bhartrhari’ s reflection on the relationship between money and
virtues offers valuable insights into the complex interplay between
material wealth and moral character. By acknowledging the role of money as
a foundation for virtues, yet cautioning against its pitfalls, Bhartrhari
invites us to reflect on our attitudes and behaviours towards wealth and to
strive for a harmonious integration of material prosperity and ethical
integrity in our lives.

References: Bhartrhari. (Year of Publication). Title of Bhartrhari's
work. Publisher. Radhakrishnan, S., & Moore, C. A. (Eds.). (1957). A Source
Book in Indian Philosophy. Princeton University Press.

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Re: The Macro Paradigm

The Dynamics of Paradigm Shifts: Exploring Transformations in Thought and
Practice

The technology of the paradigm. a typical example or pattern of something;
a model: A paradigm is a way of looking at something. The word paradigm
comes up a lot in the academic, scientific, and business worlds. A new
paradigm in business could mean a new way of reaching customers and making
money. In education, relying on lectures is a paradigm: if you suddenly
shifted to all group work, that would be a new paradigm. Thus, each is a
system; and from one, another gets the shape differently. Hence, we grow in
paradigm; in that way the old one may go wrong? If that was wrong. change
is also wrong. And if we were to consider that for millennium years in the
wrong paradigm or right paradigm is only a pure assumption, seeking it
through or perceiving within, our HUBBLE. So, can we formulate a universal
theory?

1. Understanding Paradigms:

Thomas Kuhn argued that science does not evolve gradually toward truth.

Science has a paradigm that remains constant before going through a
paradigm shift when current theories can’t explain some phenomenon, and
someone proposes a new theory.

A scientific revolution occurs when: (i) the new paradigm better explains
the observations and offers a model that is closer to the objective,
external reality; and (ii) the new paradigm is incommensurate with the old.For
example, Lamarckian evolution was replaced with Darwin’s theory of
evolution by natural selection.

Paradigm Shift

Thomas Kuhn attacks “development-by-accumulation” views of science, which
hold that science progresses linearly by accumulating theory-independent
facts.  Kuhn looked at the history of science and argued that science does
not simply progress by stages based upon neutral observations (e.g.,
Positivism).

For Kuhn, the history of science is characterized by revolutions in
scientific outlook. Scientists have a worldview or “paradigm.”  A paradigm
is a universally recognizable scientific achievement that, for a time,
provides model problems and solutions to a community of practitioners.

A paradigm is a basic framework of assumptions, principals and methods from
which the members of the community work.

It is a set of norms that tell scientists how to think and behave, and although
there are rival schools of thought in science, there is still a single
paradigm that all scientists accept uncritically.

Scientists accept the dominant paradigm until anomalies are thrown up.
Scientists
then begin to question the basis of the paradigm itself; new theories
emerge which challenge the dominant paradigm. Eventually, one of these new
theories becomes accepted as the new paradigm. And here also we built the
paradigm and we are questioning it to change. Thus, we are always under the
pressures of a new paradigm.

During different periods of science, certain perspectives held sway over
the thinking of researchers.  A particular work may “define the legitimate
problems and methods of a research field for succeeding generations of
practitioners.”

According to Kuhn, knowledge that does not evolve according to the four
main phases may not be considered scientific.

paradigm shift cycle

Phase 1: Pre-science

The pre-paradigmatic state refers to a period before a scientific

consensus has been reached.

Disorganized and diverse activity.

The constant debate over fundamentals.

As many theories as there are theorists.

No commonly accepted observational basis. The conflicting theories are
constituted with their own set of theory-dependent observations.

Phase 2: Normal Science

(most common – science is usually stable)

A paradigm is established, which lays the foundations for legitimate work
within the discipline. Scientific work then consists of the articulation of
the paradigm in solving puzzles that it throws up.

A paradigm is a conventional basis for research; it sets a precedent.

Puzzles that resist solutions are seen as anomalies.

Anomalies are tolerated and do not cause the rejection of the theory, as
scientists are confident these anomalies can be explained over time.

Scientists spend much of their time in the Model Drift step, battling
anomalies that have appeared. They may or may not know this or acknowledge
it.

It is necessary for normal science to be uncritical. If all scientists were
critical of a theory and spent time trying to falsify it, no detailed work
would ever get done.

“Normal Science, the activity in which most scientists inevitably spend
almost all of their time, is predicated on the assumption that the
scientific community knows what the world is like.

Much of the success of the enterprise derives from the community’s
willingness to defend that assumption, if necessary, at considerable cost.

Normal Science, for example, often suppresses fundamental novelties because
they are necessarily subversive of its basic commitments” (Kuhn, 1996, p.
5).

Phase 3: Crisis

*This is where the paradigm shift occurs.*

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Migration theory blown another evidence courtesy Bala Iyer

Your write up of burst blew your lid off revealing your stark nakedness of
cipher code know how. One who has no stuff can only abuse to escape others'
wrath  Thank you Narayana Keep losing  KR IRS 3624

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 20:34, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:

>
> Dear folks
>
> Great !
>
> The ossified, clay-brained, vacuum-skulled uneducated, unlettered vagrant
> nincompoop who never went to any school and who kow-towed, and continues to
> kow-tow, before the illegitimate triple-adulterer Vyaasa exhibits and
> underlines his utter incurable stupidity and insanity by now screeching,
> screaming and shouting in BLOCK CAPITALS that his father, his grandfather
> and his great-grandfather were all born on the same day -- even though he
> himself never ever learnt how to perform their shraaddham on
> the anniversary of his late uncared-for father's death, because, being
> descended from dalits, he has no gothram..
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 8:59 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> unlettered vagrant nincompoop who never went to school  Narayanasamy ,ARE
>> YOU REALLY AN ADVOCATE? JUST BECAUSE YOUR GRANDFATHER AND FATHER ,GREAT
>> GRANDFATHER WERE ,EARLIER TO YOU, DOES NOT MEAN, THAT THEY WERE BORN
>> TOGETHER ON THE SAME DATE ,SAME TIME. SENILITY IS ON DOT. KR IRS 2624
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 01:46, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Let that ossified, clay-brained, vacuum-skulled uneducated, unlettered
>>> vagrant nincompoop who never went to school and who kow-towed, and
>>> continues to kow-tow, before the illegitimate triple-adulterer Vyaasa
>>> provide scriptural evidence that, millennia before Vyaasa was born, all
>>> three vedams -- r'g, yajur, and saama -- were NOT an undifferentiated,
>>> unpartitioned, unseparated whole mass of Vedic manthrams emanating
>>> from Lord Brahma.
>>>
>>> And not merely provide proof of the perpetual NETI NETI inhabiting
>>> permanently his occluded, infertile brain.
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:49 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let that idiot provide evidence in the scripture for the coexistence
>>>> NETI NETI revealed his zero brain  KR IRS 1624 2624
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 20:59, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear folks
>>>>>
>>>>> The blind uneducated and prejudiced r'g-veda chauvinist cannot
>>>>> resist shoving his oar in murky and muddy waters, and proving his avivekam
>>>>> and avidhya:-
>>>>>
>>>>> "My theory of it is the Bharatha varsha only (vide Bartolomeo Maps)
>>>>> split into seven continents 5+2. It was halted in this position only
>>>>> because of the creation of the Himalayas on North blocking further split
>>>>> and movements, but also ,indirectly protecting the people in the present
>>>>> India Rig vedists to become later."  -- K Rajaram ex-IRS 1624.
>>>>>
>>>>> *The scatter-brained blind and deaf idiot does not know that the
>>>>> so-called "R'g-vedists" existed at the same time as the yajur-vedists and
>>>>> the saama-vedists.*
>>>>>
>>>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:06 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>>>> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oldest evidence of humans in Greece is 700,000 years old, a quarter
>>>>>> of a million years older than previous record
>>>>>>
>>>>>> published June 8, 2023   LIVE SCIENCE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A prehistoric site in Greece pushes back the earliest known hominin
>>>>>> presence in the region by up to 250,000 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An array of stone tools against a black background.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stone tools crafted by hominins from and Choremi 7 in Greece.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Several prehistoric sites in Greece reveal that our human ancestors
>>>>>> hunted hippos and elephants between 280,000 and 700,000 years ago. The
>>>>>> oldest site pushes back the earliest known hominin presence in the region
>>>>&g

SANATANA DHARMA PART 41 An Ideal Woman KR IRS 2624 3624

SANATANA DHARMA PART 41   An Ideal Woman KR IRS 2624 3624

VLDN KANCHI KR

Status and qualifications of a woman kept so high in the Vedic dharma is
well enumerated; here we praised them, treated them so high and went along
with the sincerity of purpose. But when men interpreted the Vedic dharma in
favour of men, they shelved the women into the dark holes. Today we see all
around a revolution among the women; but freedom made them a butterfly and
slowly, they will come back to the olden days to set right the society.

 Karyeshu dasi, Karaneshu manthri; Bhojeshu mata, Shayaneshu rambha;
Kshamayeshu dharithri, Roopeshu lakshmi; Satkarma yukta, Kuladharma patni/

 An ideal wife should be like a loyal maid for service; an intelligent
adviser; a mother like with affection while feeding food; a romantic-
proactive and comforting woman like a damsel; a woman of beauty, charm and
richness like Goddess Lakshmi Herself with dedication and humility; and
above all be ever forgiving with compassion and ready understanding like
Bhudevi Herself!

Chaturvidha Veda Mahilas / Vedic Seeker Strees of fame:

  Ghosha, Lopamudra, Maitreyi, Gargi:

Ghosha was the granddaughter of Dirgha Tama and Devi Pakshivat, both being
the worshippers of Ashvini Devatas or the Celestial Physicians; Ghosha who
remained a spinster as she had leprosy too worshipped the twin
Ashwinis and authored
Hymns of Praise with the desire of curing her disease and bestowing
conjugal happiness and excelled herself as a Great Seeker;

Lopamudra was the wife of Agastya  who originally created her by his Mantra
Siddhi and gave away as the daughter of the King of Vidarbha; she
attained extraordinary
knowledge of Rig Veda and entered into enquiries with the Muni and finally
the latter was so impressed and accepted as his life partner with the
distinction of scripting Hymns that defined the rights and duties of men
and women as equal partners of family life.

 Maitreyi was the wife of Yagnavalkya who also had another wife named
Katyayani a pious woman but Maitreyi had the unique distinction of Rig Veda
dedicating some ten stanzas accredited to her fund of knowledge and
acquired the epithet of being a Brahma Vaadini which enhanced the husband‘s
erudition; once when Yagnavalkya decided to renounce his Ashram into
Sanyasa, Katyayani opted for wealth but Maitreyi opted for wealth and
Immortality and the latter secured the same; Gargi had the distinction of
dominating a Vidvat Sabha at a Brahma Yagnya performed by Videha the
Formless King Janaka the Rajarshi and embarrassed Yagnavalkya Muni with
confusing queries about Atma and Paramatma such as:‗where is the layer
above the Sky and below the Earth stated in Scriptures as the symbol of the
Past- Present and Future situated?’

Sapta Pativratas: Ahalya, Draupadi, Sita, Tara, Mandodari, Anasuya and
Sumati: An explanation of a Parivrata refers to Ahalya though she slept
with Indra but she had her husband Muni Gautama was genuinely on her mind
and when turned into a stone due to Gautama‘s Shaapa Rama purified her too
for her dereliction due to her ignorance; Draupadi though she married
Pancha Pandavas since all the Pandavas were of the Amsha of Indra whose
virility was distributed to Devi Kunti through Yama Dharmaraja to beget
Yudhishtara, Vayu Deva to beget Bhima, Arjuna from his (Indra‘s ) own and
Ashwini Kumars from Devi Maadri as Nakula and Sahadeva apart from the fact
that Draupadi was Indra‘s better half viz Sachi Devi who was originally
Yagnesheni the daughter of Agni as clarified in Markandeya Purana ; Devi
Sita despite Ravana‘s pressure tactics had only Rama always; Devi Tara the
wife of Vaali but the Tradition of Kishkindha allowed Sugriva to marry
after Vaali‘s death as approved by Rama himself and Mandodari of course was
a fixation on Ravanasura despite his infatuation with Sita; Anasuya the
wife of Atri and the  illustrious Kardama Prajapati ; Sumati who was an
outstanding

Pativrata who adored her husband a Leper and even prostrated before a woman
whom her husband desired to sleep with.

Sati Savitri an outstanding Pativrata who defied Yama Dharma Raja into
conviction! Matsya Purana describes yet another Pativrata! In the days of
yore, there was a King named Ashwapati of Shaakala Vamsa in Madra Desha
(the present Sialkot Territory) who did not secure a son. Being highly
devoted to Devi Savitri (Gayatri), he intensified his worship to her and
performed a daily ‗havan‘/ oblation to Agni with white ‗Tilas‘ (Sesame
seeds) in the presence of thousand Brahmanas for ten months and finally Devi
Savitri appeared to Ashwapati on a Chaturthi day and granted an illustrious
daughter to him and queen Malati; the baby was named as Savitri since she
was born by the grace of Devi Savitri.

  The daughter grew into a charming and highly virtuous girl; a chance
visit of Brahmarshi Narada to the King and the daughter indicated that her
husband would die on a specified day after her wedding. They both indeed
were terribly

Re: Thought for the Day 3rd June 2024

அஞ்சுவ தஞ்சாமை பேதைமை அஞ்சுவது
அஞ்சல் அறிவார் தொழில்.   (௪௱௨௰௮ - 428)

Anjuva Thanjaamai Pedhaimai Anjuvadhu
Anjal Arivaar Thozhil
añcuva tañcāmai pētaimai añcuvatu
añcal aṟivār toḻil.

It is folly not to fear what ought to be feared. The wise dread what ought
to be dreaded.

*Tamil (**தமிழ்**)*
அஞ்ச வேண்டியவைகளுக்கு அஞ்சாமல் நடப்பது அறிவில்லாத தன்மை ஆகும்; அஞ்ச
வேண்டியதற்கு அஞ்சி விலகி நடப்பதே அறிவுடையவர் செயலாகும் (௪௱௨௰௮)
*Hindi (**हिन्दी**)*
निर्भयता भेतव्य से, है जड़ता का नाम ।
भय रखना भेतव्य से, रहा सुधी का काम ॥ (४२८)

*Telugu (**తెలుగు**)*
లొంగ దగిన చోట లొంగుటే జ్ఞానమ్ము
మూర్ఖుఁ డెదురు దిరుగు ముప్పుఁగనక. (౪౨౮)

*Malayalam (**മലയാളം**)*
ഭയപ്പെടേണ്ടും കാര്യങ്ങൾ ഭയന്നീടുന്നു ജ്ഞാനികൾ
ഭയപ്പെടാതിരിക്കുന്നോരജ്ഞരെന്നത് നിശ്ചയം (൪൱൨൰൮)

*Kannada (**ಕನ್ನಡ**)*
ಅಂಜಬೇಕಾದ ವಿಷಯಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಹೆದರದಿರುವುದು ಮೂರ್ಖತನವೆನ್ನಿಸುವುದು; ಅಂಜಬೇಕಾದ ವಿಷಯಗಳಲ್ಲಿ
ಅಂಜಿ ನಡೆದುಕೊಳ್ಳುವುದೇ ಅರಿವುಳ್ಳವರ ಧರ್ಮ. (೪೨೮)

*Sanskrit (**संस्कृतम्**)*
ये न बिभ्यति ते मूढा दुष्कृत्यात् पापभीतिदात् ।
भीरुता पापकृत्येषु धीमतां प्रकृतिर्भवेत् ॥ (४२८)  K R IRS 3624

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 19:00, Jambunathan Iyer  wrote:

> Believe in the Impossibilities.
>
> We should never allow fear of the unknown to stop us from accomplishing
> the purposes of our Vision. But it all starts by having faith in Self. See,
> we cannot achieve our Goal without having belief and self-confidence on our
> actions. When you strengthen our faith in all actions and aims, we will
> find out that nothing is impossible.
>
> N Jambunathan Rengarajapuram-Kodambakkam-Chennai-Mob:9176159004
>
> *" What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you
> become by achieving your goals. If you want to live a happy life, tie it to
> a goal, not to people or things "*
>
>

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Urugi urugi song

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/L3XsJtDMHENtFQCF/?mibextid=xfxF2i   By
Aman Saga In Zee5  Probably music lovers should have heard this today
before going to bed; this kid Aman saga of Kerala is a god's gift. With Bad
throat he did it as a masterpiece and I am spellbound. And the original
singer from a brahmin music family from London who was once a winner of the
same show (or Vijay TV?) Aravindakshan is another gift of GOD whose voice
is mesmerizing which song I sent only on Sunday morning in 20 lists. (for
me Saturday). That guy being a brahmin is difficult to get the chance in
the film world and that youngster should get a break, Aravindakshan is
being closely followed by Aman Saga. God does not play dice.
Yes it is from Vijay TV anand aravindakshan Kannamma kanavillaya in 2016
https://youtu.be/KLaak3Jw73A  And that original singer Late SPB said
aravindakshan sang better than him. Listen to that
https://youtu.be/RR_Nxa0IBg0   kannamma by SPB  (Late).
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why to avoid fake news contd fro Rangarajanji

Waylon speaks about the role of journalism as the pursuit of truth, the
trap of “fake news,” and how we can all develop our antenna for bullsh*t
(including our own) if we pause to examine our sources of “facts.”

*“Journalism is simply the search for truth, which makes it similar to
science. If you’re interested in journalism—whether you’re liberal or
conservative—you’re interested in facts, and you’re open to changing your
mind and opening your mind, and being proven wrong.” ~ Waylon Lewis*

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Re: [iyer123] Thoughts

Kettalum maen makkal maen makale; snagu suttaluim venmai tharum  KR  IRS
2624

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 10:44, SRIRAMAJAYAM  wrote:

> Knowing a *GOOD* person is like music,..
> .
> Knowing a   *GOOD* person is like   *GOOD*  music
> . 
>
> On Sun, 2 Jun, 2024, 10:58 am 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Mr  Rama,
>>
>> From my side a small *addition-* Knowing a *GOOD* person is
>> like music,...
>> Gopalakrishnan
>>
>> On Sunday, 2 June, 2024 at 09:56:21 am IST, Rama 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> *Knowing a person is like Music, What attracts us to them is their
>> Melody, And as we get to know who they are, We learn their lyrics..!!*
>>
>> Cheers
>> Rama
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Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 06-2024-02

CULTURAL QA 06202402

Q1 What is the funniest anecdote about the great Winston
Churchill?

KR   Another one sir:  During World War II, when Winston Churchill was
Prime Minister of Britain, he was involved in negotiations with the Soviet
Union, which was an uneasy alliance at the time. The story goes that during
one of these negotiations, Churchill's aide informed him that the Soviet
Union was demanding a larger share of a particular resource or territory.

In response, Churchill reportedly said, "I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to
us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." Then, he paused and
added, "Give me a half-share of a pig, and I will be your friend for life."

This anecdote illustrates Churchill's wit and his ability to use humour to
defuse tense situations and make a point. It also reflects his pragmatism
and willingness to compromise for the greater good, even if it meant
accepting less than he initially wanted.

Q2 Can you tell a story from the Panchatantra?

KRThis is own pancha tantra and not a true one; true one is:

Q3 What are the some lesser known facts about lord Vishnu?

KRYes partly true as what is written there is added with owh
narration also.

  His name is SALA BEGA. MY COLLEAGUE FROM ORISSA MOHANTY, PRESENTED ME
A BOOK SALABEGA SAHITYA ACADEMY WINNER TRANSLATED MAY BE AROUND ENF 1990 IF
I AM RIGHT; Sala Bega chanted Vishnu name and did not go and get medicine
and all. Also, he was denied permission in Rohitasva being a Muslim. He
wrote poems in praise of Vishnu like: “OM LORD JAGANNATH, MY LIFE IS
GETTING WASTED SIMPLY

BY SLEEP AND BY HAVING ANXIETY ON OTHER WORLDLY

MATTERS. PLEASE REMOVE THE UNWANTED THOUGHTS FROM

MY MEMORY, AND MAKE YOUR PERMANENT PRESENCE IN MY

HEART”.

“OUR DEATH HAS ALREADY BEEN FIXED DURING OUR BIRTH

ITSELF. THEN WHY WE ARE SHOWING OUR ATTENTION ON

WORLDLY PLEASURES, AND PHYSICAL COMFORTS, LET US

START CHANTING THE NAMES OF LORD KRISHNA, IN ORDER TO

AVOID TAKING REBIRTHS AGAIN AND AGAIN”.

Also as he used to visit the Rathotsava from a distance, once he was
delayed to reach that spot in time; so he prayed; and The Ratha did not
move till he arrived and had dharsanam. That showed the people who was he
exactly. He used that spot as his stay and office where he breathed his
last. There his samadhi is there. And even today The Ratha stops at that
spot and move.

K Rajaram IRS   2624

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 08:45, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> *CULTURAL QA 06-2024-02*
>
> *All the below   QA is  from  Quora  digest to me   on  02-06-2024.*
>
> *Quora answers may  not be 100% correct answers.*
>
> *Compiled **and posted by R. Gopala krishnan,  on 02-06-2024*
>
> *Q1 What is the funniest anecdote about the great Winston
> Churchill?*
>
> *A1 Alessandro13, Apr 5*
>
> *You should know that Winston Churchill 's greatest political rival served
> in the ranks of the Conservative Party just like him, also due to the
> weakness of the Labor Party in that precise historical period.*
>
> *Her name was Nancy Astor , and she had been the first woman to be read MP
> and sit in the House of Commons in the United Kingdom.*
>
> *During a debate between the two, Churchill mocked her this way:*
>
> * Nancy Astor: «Winston, know this: if you were my husband I wouldn't
> think for a moment about putting a few drops of poison in my coffee»*
>
> *  Winston Churchill: «Nancy, know this: if you were my wife I wouldn't
> think for a moment about drinking that coffee in one gulp»*
>
> *Q2 Can you tell a story from the Panchatantra**?*
>
> *A2 Chauhan Babu Nath, Sat*
>
> *A farmer lived in a village. The farmer was old but his wife was young.
> She always had her eyes on men. One day a thug saw the woman leaving the
> house alone. The thug followed the woman.*
>
> *When the woman reached a secluded place, the fraudster came to her and
> said, “My wife has died and I like you, so come with me.”*
>
> *The woman said, "If that is the case then I am ready to come with you
> because my husband has become old and is not able to move around. He has a
> lot of wealth. I will bring that money which will help us to spend our life
> comfortably."*
>
> *The thug said, "Okay, you come to this place tomorrow at dawn and then we
> will move forward together from here."*
>
> *The woman came home and waited for her husband to sleep. When her husband
> fell asleep, she tied all the money and jewellery in a bundle and in the
> morning she reached the same place where she met the thug.*
>
> *Both of them started their journey together from that place. After
> walking a long distance from the village, they came across a deep river. If
> I take this woman with me, then surely someone will come looking for her
> and I will be in trouble. So I should somehow grab her wealth and get rid
> of her.*
>
> *Thinking this, the thug said, "The river is very

Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd - what it takes to be an Event Manager

And also the best example of "presence of mind is exactly what"  and not as
in Q and  A  KR  IRS 2624

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thatha_patty@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr Sekar,
>
> So, event management is clearly told.
> Gopalakrishan
>
> On Sunday, 2 June, 2024 at 03:32:15 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers <
> keralaiy...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>
> *Event Management :*
> 藍藍藍
>
> During dinner at wedding function, Bride's worried father rushed to Event
> Manager and whispered in his ear : All are taking Carrot Halwa only, nobody
> is taking Gulab Jamun. What will we do if Halwa gets finished and Jamun is
> so much surplus ? My prestige is at stake!!
>
> "Don't worry at all, Sir. I will set it right." Said the Event Manager.
> Then he dialled a number and said, " Hello, Sanjay, listen carefully.
> Remove Monica  from Halwa desk and shift her to Jamun desk. In her
> place, ask Abdul Chacha  to serve Halwa."
>
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> *You can't be a successful event Manager just like that !"*
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Re: [iyer123] Quote of the day

Overconfidence. see the video https://youtu.be/UOWUxZvrMDI   Koorai eari
kozhi pidikka theryADAVAN.
KR IRS 2624

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> https://www.facebook.com/share/p/xpebjsghNgbTXdFg/?mibextid=xfxF2i
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Re: [iyer123] Good Morning

So what he meant was that dont take Kalam so seriously? No if you do not
take the achiever as an objective your progress is retarded. So he says DO
NOT DO HERO WORSHIP BUT DO APPRECIATE AND MOVE OFF TO YOUR JOB. Or else
they will run their films for profit and sell their books, whatever level
of substandards , they may be. Do not waste time in such activities on FB
and media . KR IRS 2624

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Re: [iyer123] Good Morning

ADVICE FROM OLD PEOPLE // advice from young ones GRIN AND BEAR IT READERS’
DIGEST

1 The most important person in your life is the person who agreed to share
their life with you. Treat them as such. KR CONTRACT?



2 You might live a long life, or you might live a short one — who knows.
But either way, trust me when I say that you’re going to wish you took
better care of yourself in your youth.   KR   BUT NEVER ATTENDED IN
ENFORCING THAT DISCIPLINE?



3 Stuff is just stuff. Don’t hold onto material objects, hold onto time and
experiences instead. KRSO DON’T BUY ANYTHING?



4 Jealousy destroys relationships. Trust your significant other, because who
else are you supposed to trust?  KR   only one to trust and rest do not
trust?



5 People always say, “Make sure you get a job doing what you love!” But
that isn’t the best advice. The right job is the job you love some days,
can tolerate most days, and still pays the bills. Almost nobody has a job
they love every day. KR   Somebody stole my quote; my father gave; written
many a times here; there are no phases; just love the job you do or quit
boldly



6 If you’re getting overwhelmed by life, just return to the immediate
present moment and savour all that is beautiful and comforting. Take a deep
breath, relax. KR   Already breathing or else would have been dead



7 Years go by in the blink of an eye. Don’t marry young. Live your life. Go
places. Do things. If you have the means or not. Pack a bag and go wherever
you can afford to go. While you have no dependents, don’t buy stuff. Any
stuff. See the world. Look through travel magazines and pick a spot.
GO!   KR
The older who advised said,” you take the back-pack and I shall give you a
lot of money to see places?



8 Don’t take life so seriously. Even if things seem dark and hopeless, try
to laugh at how ridiculous life is. KR   What shall I do; When I get a job
yo say something; now you say the opposite; your advice is o confusing;
better stop advising.



9 A true friend will come running if you call them at 2am. Everyone else is
just an acquaintance. KR Why should one “come” without a purpose at 2 AM?
And is there no one at home at that time?



10 Children grow up way too fast. Make the most of the time you have with
them.   KR   Don’t you think, even without that they will grow up, may be
in a better way too?



11 Nobody ever dies wishing they had worked more. Work hard, but don’t
prioritize work over family, friends, or even yourself.   KR   Even without
working at any time, people will not die till that date sir. And that will
help to be with family all the time.



12 Eat and exercise like you’re a diabetic heart patient with a stroke — so
you never actually become one.KREven if you go gym right from your
birth, nonstop, still you will be diabetic and stroke while exercising may
attack. Pak fast bowler is diabetic.



13. Maybe this one isn’t as profound as the others, but I think it’s
important… Floss regularly, dental problems are awful.   KR   Flossing is
west cult and they also lose their teeth.



14. Don’t take anyone else’s advice as gospel. You can ask for advice from
someone you respect, then take your situation into consideration and make
your own decision. Essentially, take your own advice is my advice…KR
 SO WHY DID YOU WASTE TIME SO LONG AND STILL CONTIUING AFTER THIS?



15. The joints you damage today will get their revenge later. Even if you
think they’ve recovered completely. TRUST ME!   KR  Then you will ask me to
read 1 again; Joint go useless by not using not because as you said



16. We have one time on this earth. Don’t wake up and realize that you are
60 years old and haven’t done the things you dreamed about. KR   PAST IS
PAST PRESENT IS PRESENT AND FUTURE IS FUTURE; WHAT HAPPENED WAS GOOD; WHAT
IS GOING TO HAPPEN WILL ALSO BE GOOD.



17. Appreciate the small things and to be present in the moment. What do I
mean? Well, it seems today like younger people are all about immediate
gratification. Instead, why not appreciate every small moment? We don’t get
to stay on this crazy/wonderful planet forever and the greatest pleasure
can be found in the most mundane of activities. Instead of sending a text,
pick up the phone and call someone. Call your mother, have a conversation
about nothing in particular. Those are the moments to hold onto.KR
I CALLED MY MOTHER BUT SHE IS IN THE CLUB PHONE ON SILENT MODE WHAT TO DO?



18. Pay your bills and stay the hell out of debt. If I could have paid
myself all the money I’ve paid out in interest over the years, I’d be
retired already.   KR   SORRY FOR THAT MATTER, I CANNOT PAY YOUR DEBT SIR




19. If you have a dream of being or doing something that seems impossible,
try for it anyway. It will only become more impossible as you age and
become responsible for other people.   KR Thatha you are a bad person;
you want me to become a MLA in TN and get beaten up? Sarcastic Thatha



And finally, the last piece of

Re: [iyer123] Photo from V SRIDHARAN

Because Good parents were kept busy by the children and bad ones were
crying yesterday KR IRS 2624

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 00:52, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> No body posted similar messages yesterday. Forgot parents?
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Sunday, 2 June, 2024 at 11:13:46 am IST, 'venkat giri' via iyer123 <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Re: [iyer123] Mahaperivaa ...Ten Commandments

And that too, one who preaches that one should try atleast must follow
Thanks for the understanding of the concept KR IRS 2624

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> A person should *at least TRY*  to live adhering to the ten commandments.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Sunday, 2 June, 2024 at 09:53:15 am IST, Rama 
> wrote:
>
>
> #MahaPeriyava
> "Dasopadesam" or "The Ten Commandments" of Sri Maha Periyava Jagadguru
> Pujya Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi Swamigal
>
> 1. One of our duties as human beings is to avail ourselves of every
> opportunity to do good to others. The poor can serve others by their loyal
> work to the country and the rich by their wealth to help the poor. Those
> who are influential can use their influence to better the condition of the
> lowly. That way we can keep alive in our hearts a sense of social service.
>
> 2. Man by himself cannot create even a blade of grass. We will be guilty
> of gross ingratitude if we do not offer first to God what we eat or wear -
> only the best and choicest should be offered to Him.
>
> 3. Life without love is a waste. Everyone should cultivate "Prema" or love
> towards all human beings, bird and beast.
>
> 4. Wealth amassed by a person whose heart is closed to charity, is
> generally dissipated by the inheritors: but the family of philanthropists
> will always be blessed with happiness.
>
> 5. A person who has done a meritorious deed will lose the resulting merit
> if he listens to the praise of others or himself boasts of his deeds.
>
> 6. It will not do good to grieve over what has happened. If we learn to
> discriminate between good and evil, that will guard us from falling into
> the evil again.
>
> 7. We should utilise to good purpose, the days of our life time. We should
> engage ourselves in acts which will contribute to the welfare of others
> rather than to our selfish desires.
>
> 8. We should perform duties that have been prescribed for our daily life
> and also be filled with devotion to God.
>
> 9. One attains one's goal by performance of one's duties.
>
> 10. Jnana is the only solvent of our troubles and sufferings.
>
> Jaya Jaya Shankara Hara Hara Shankara!!
> Sarvam Sri Krishnarpanam 
> Cheers
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Re: [iyer123] Thoughts

Is there any difference in music ? Did you say good and bad music? Music
lacking is the reason as duryodhana saw perhaps the perception. KR 2624

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> Mr  Rama,
>
> From my side a small *addition-* Knowing a *GOOD* person is like music,...
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Sunday, 2 June, 2024 at 09:56:21 am IST, Rama 
> wrote:
>
>
> *Knowing a person is like Music, What attracts us to them is their
> Melody, And as we get to know who they are, We learn their lyrics..!!*
>
> Cheers
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Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Migration theory blown another evidence courtesy Bala Iyer

unlettered vagrant nincompoop who never went to school  Narayanasamy ,ARE
YOU REALLY AN ADVOCATE? JUST BECAUSE YOUR GRANDFATHER AND FATHER ,GREAT
GRANDFATHER WERE ,EARLIER TO YOU, DOES NOT MEAN, THAT THEY WERE BORN
TOGETHER ON THE SAME DATE ,SAME TIME. SENILITY IS ON DOT. KR IRS 2624

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 01:46, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:

>
> Let that ossified, clay-brained, vacuum-skulled uneducated, unlettered
> vagrant nincompoop who never went to school and who kow-towed, and
> continues to kow-tow, before the illegitimate triple-adulterer Vyaasa
> provide scriptural evidence that, millennia before Vyaasa was born, all
> three vedams -- r'g, yajur, and saama -- were NOT an undifferentiated,
> unpartitioned, unseparated whole mass of Vedic manthrams emanating
> from Lord Brahma.
>
> And not merely provide proof of the perpetual NETI NETI inhabiting
> permanently his occluded, infertile brain.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:49 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Let that idiot provide evidence in the scripture for the coexistence NETI
>> NETI revealed his zero brain  KR IRS 1624 2624
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 20:59, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear folks
>>>
>>> The blind uneducated and prejudiced r'g-veda chauvinist cannot
>>> resist shoving his oar in murky and muddy waters, and proving his avivekam
>>> and avidhya:-
>>>
>>> "My theory of it is the Bharatha varsha only (vide Bartolomeo Maps)
>>> split into seven continents 5+2. It was halted in this position only
>>> because of the creation of the Himalayas on North blocking further split
>>> and movements, but also ,indirectly protecting the people in the present
>>> India Rig vedists to become later."  -- K Rajaram ex-IRS 1624.
>>>
>>> *The scatter-brained blind and deaf idiot does not know that the
>>> so-called "R'g-vedists" existed at the same time as the yajur-vedists and
>>> the saama-vedists.*
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:06 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>
>>>> Oldest evidence of humans in Greece is 700,000 years old, a quarter of
>>>> a million years older than previous record
>>>>
>>>> published June 8, 2023   LIVE SCIENCE
>>>>
>>>> A prehistoric site in Greece pushes back the earliest known hominin
>>>> presence in the region by up to 250,000 years.
>>>>
>>>> An array of stone tools against a black background.
>>>>
>>>> Stone tools crafted by hominins from and Choremi 7 in Greece.
>>>>
>>>> Several prehistoric sites in Greece reveal that our human ancestors
>>>> hunted hippos and elephants between 280,000 and 700,000 years ago. The
>>>> oldest site pushes back the earliest known hominin presence in the region
>>>> by up to 250,000 years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not clear which ancient hominin (a term that includes humans and
>>>> our ancestors) used the site, but researchers suspect it was archaic Homo
>>>> sapiens.
>>>>
>>>> Sitting about 124 miles (200 kilometers) southwest of Athens, the
>>>> Megalopolis Basin in Arcadia hosts one of the largest lignite mines in
>>>> Greece. Although archaeologists have known for decades that the site
>>>> harboured ancient fossils, little targeted excavation had been carried out.
>>>> Recently, though, the Hellenic Ministry of Culture & Sports and the
>>>> American School of Classical Studies at Athens launched a five-year
>>>> excavation to better understand the context of the Megalopolis sites.
>>>>
>>>> Mining activity revealed five new sites in the basin, which "exposed
>>>> the fossil-bearing sediments to a much greater depth, thus revealing older
>>>> remains," Katerina Harvati, a paleoanthropologist at the University of
>>>> Tübingen in Germany and co-project lead, told Live Science in an email.
>>>>
>>>> The most recent site, Choremi 7, dating to around 280,000 years ago,
>>>> yielded stone tools as well as deer bones with evidence of cut marks.
>>>> Tripotamos 4, at 400,000 years old, had a large concentration of stone
>>>> tools and evidence of new methods of stone working compared to older sites.
>>&g

Re: [iyer123] தெய்வங்கள் கூட்டம்

I repeat Bhasheer ali"இதை எப்படி சொல்வது என்று வார்த்தையே இல்லை பல
கடவுள்கள் மனித ரூபத்தில் காட்சி தருகிறார்கள் இந்த அனைத்து கடவுள்களுக்கும்
என் நெஞ்சம் நிறைந்த நன்றி கலந்த பாராட்டுகளை தெரிவித்துக் கொள்கிறேன் அரசு
நடத்துனர் மற்றும் ஓட்டுனர் அடுத்து அந்த டாக்டர் நர்ஸ் இதில் பணிபுரிந்து
அனைத்து நல்ல உள்ளங்களுக்கும் நீண்ட ஆயுளை கடவுள் கொடுக்குமாறு
வேண்டிக்கொள்கிறேன் நன்றி  KR

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iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] I love them

Who is writing this? Clay matter zeroed? Perversion in writing? KR IRS
1624  2624

On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 21:14, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:

>
> The Pandaripura Mahaa Vishnu is a woman with bulging breasts?  And with no
> signs of either shanku or chakram?
>
> Interesting !
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 8:55 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [image: WhatsApp Image 2024-06-01 at 19.27.50_d8681534.jpg]
>> [image: WhatsApp Image 2024-06-01 at 19.28.00_844be953.jpg]
>> Top Pantharpur Shri Panduranga Vittala Darshan Today  Bottom Ayodhya Shri
>> Ram lalla Darshan Today  KR IRS 2624
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Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Migration theory blown another evidence courtesy Bala Iyer

Let that idiot provide evidence in the scripture for the coexistence NETI
NETI revealed his zero brain  KR IRS 1624 2624

On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 20:59, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:

>
> Dear folks
>
> The blind uneducated and prejudiced r'g-veda chauvinist cannot
> resist shoving his oar in murky and muddy waters, and proving his avivekam
> and avidhya:-
>
> "My theory of it is the Bharatha varsha only (vide Bartolomeo Maps) split
> into seven continents 5+2. It was halted in this position only because of
> the creation of the Himalayas on North blocking further split and
> movements, but also ,indirectly protecting the people in the present India
> Rig vedists to become later."  -- K Rajaram ex-IRS 1624.
>
> *The scatter-brained blind and deaf idiot does not know that the so-called
> "R'g-vedists" existed at the same time as the yajur-vedists and the
> saama-vedists.*
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:06 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Oldest evidence of humans in Greece is 700,000 years old, a quarter of a
>> million years older than previous record
>>
>> published June 8, 2023   LIVE SCIENCE
>>
>> A prehistoric site in Greece pushes back the earliest known hominin
>> presence in the region by up to 250,000 years.
>>
>> An array of stone tools against a black background.
>>
>> Stone tools crafted by hominins from and Choremi 7 in Greece.
>>
>> Several prehistoric sites in Greece reveal that our human ancestors
>> hunted hippos and elephants between 280,000 and 700,000 years ago. The
>> oldest site pushes back the earliest known hominin presence in the region
>> by up to 250,000 years.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's not clear which ancient hominin (a term that includes humans and our
>> ancestors) used the site, but researchers suspect it was archaic Homo
>> sapiens.
>>
>> Sitting about 124 miles (200 kilometers) southwest of Athens, the
>> Megalopolis Basin in Arcadia hosts one of the largest lignite mines in
>> Greece. Although archaeologists have known for decades that the site
>> harboured ancient fossils, little targeted excavation had been carried out.
>> Recently, though, the Hellenic Ministry of Culture & Sports and the
>> American School of Classical Studies at Athens launched a five-year
>> excavation to better understand the context of the Megalopolis sites.
>>
>> Mining activity revealed five new sites in the basin, which "exposed the
>> fossil-bearing sediments to a much greater depth, thus revealing older
>> remains," Katerina Harvati, a paleoanthropologist at the University of
>> Tübingen in Germany and co-project lead, told Live Science in an email.
>>
>> The most recent site, Choremi 7, dating to around 280,000 years ago,
>> yielded stone tools as well as deer bones with evidence of cut marks.
>> Tripotamos 4, at 400,000 years old, had a large concentration of stone
>> tools and evidence of new methods of stone working compared to older sites.
>> These sites are important for understanding the technological development
>> of the Lower Paleolithic period (3.3 million to 300,000 years ago),
>> according to a statement from the Hellenic Ministry of Culture & Sport.
>>
>> At a site called Marathousa 2 dating to 450,000 years ago, the
>> researchers discovered evidence that ancient human relatives were killing
>> and presumably eating hippopotamuses, as part of a hippo skeleton had stone
>> tool cut marks on it. A nearby site, Marathousa 1, shows evidence of
>> elephant butchering.
>>
>> KR  People still writing from Quora on African theory, in spite of
>> many fossils going against things like China etc now can be aware as well
>> from Greece, changing the pattern theory of outward migrations from Africa.
>> It is written “There are new theories coming out that the existing theories
>> are just centered around the Mediterranean area. The Indian sub-continent
>> had a high percentage of Neanderthal genes as also that of Denisovan and
>> other Eastern Hominis genes, that are not seen in Africa and Europe ''.
>> (Bala Iyer). My theory of it is the Bharatha varsha only (vide Bartolomeo
>> Maps) split into seven continents 5+2. It was halted in this position only
>> because of the creation of the Himalayas on North blocking further split
>> and movements, but also ,indirectly protecting the people in the present
>> India Rig vedists to become later; also the ice age of the earth all around
>> the earth thrice, did not touch INDIA.
>&g

Trump found guilty under 34 charges Judgement in 11 7 24

Trump How politicians defy Justice anywhere JJ or Trump

What Trump's conviction means for the election

Donald Trump claps as a crowd of supporters cheer behind him.

Donald Trump has campaigned on his claim he is being unfairly prosecuted

Donald Trump’s criminal conviction presents a remarkable collection of
historic firsts.

He’s the first former or serving US president to be found guilty of a
crime. {34 counts charges pronounced guilty Judgement in July 24} He’s the
first presumptive major-party nominee to become a convicted felon as well.

While Trump plans his appeal in the hush-money case, and awaits a sentence
on 11 July that could in theory include prison time and a hefty fine, it’s
not too early to consider the political fallout.

That will be difficult, however, given this has never happened before.

“We often look to history to find some kind of hint of what’s going to
happen,” says Jeffrey Engel, director of the Center for Presidential
History at Southern Methodist University. “But there is nothing in the
record that comes even close to this.”

Trump secured the Republican presidential nomination earlier this year and
is scheduled to be crowned at the party's convention just days after his
sentencing.

Polls indicate he is in a statistical dead heat with President Joe Biden
and maintains a slight edge in many key swing states that will decide the
election. But those surveys also provide evidence that this conviction
might change all of that.

In exit polls conducted during the Republican primaries this winter,
double-digit numbers of voters said that they would not vote for the former
president if he were convicted of a felony.

An April survey by Ipsos and ABC News found that 16% of those backing Trump
would reconsider their support in such a situation.



Those were hypothetical convictions, however. And at the time he was facing
four criminal cases, including charges related to an alleged conspiracy to
overturn the result of the 2020 election and his handling of classified
documents once leaving the White House.

Now those voters can make their judgement based on a real conviction.

"The real verdict is going to be [on] 5 November, by the people," Trump
said, moments after leaving the courtroom.{Remember here of Yadav JJ MK
etc?)

Doug Schoen, a pollster who worked with Democratic President Bill Clinton
and independent New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, says American voters
may feel less strongly about the hush-money case by then because it relates
to events that took place eight years ago. (Reminds you Indian voters?}

“While it’s not a great thing to be convicted of a crime, what voters will
be thinking about in November is inflation, the southern border,
competition with China and Russia and the money that is being spent on
Israel and Ukraine,” he said.

Banner saying 'Trump convicted'

'The air in the courtroom turned to stone'

Hush-money trial was Trump's to lose. Here’s why he did

Can Trump run for president as a convicted felon?

Even a slight drop in Trump’s support, however, might be enough to matter
in the kind of razor-thin race this presidential contest could become. If a
few thousand voters who would have otherwise backed the former president
stay home in a key state like Wisconsin or Pennsylvania, it could make all
the difference.

“I do think it will have an impact and damage him as a candidate,” says
Ariel Hill-Davis, co-founder of Republican Women for Progress, a group that
has sought to move the party away from Trump.

She says younger voters and those who are college-educated and live in the
suburbs have been concerned about Trump’s demeanour and his approach to
governing.

“Those voters are really hesitant to get back in line with the Republican
Party headed by Donald Trump,” she says. “The guilty verdict is going to
further shore up those concerns.”

But leading Republicans, many of whom attended the trial in a show of
loyalty to the party nominee, were quick to rally behind him.

House Speaker Mike Johnson called it a shameful day in American history.
"This was a purely political exercise, not a legal one."

For eight years, experts and opponents have been predicting Trump’s
impending political collapse, only to be proven wrong. His 2016
presidential campaign was punctuated by scandals that would have likely
felled a typical politician, including Trump’s recorded Access Hollywood
conversation about groping women that was referenced multiple times in this
trial.

Mr Trump’s party largely stuck with him through two impeachments and the
chaotic end of his presidency, during which the US Capitol was attacked by
a mob of his supporters.

All this did not prevent the former president from undertaking a political
revival that has put him in position to win back the White House in
November.

“It’s axiomatic at this point, but Trump’s continued support, despite the
kind of scandal that would have scuttled literally any other previous
candidate in American history, is

asthma from vikatan

ஆஸ்துமா: இதையெல்லாம் செய்தால் போதும்… எளிதாகத் தப்பிக்கலாம்!I கன்சல்டிங்
ரூம் - 17

வெ.கௌசல்யா

வெளிப்புறக் காரணிகளுடன் கூடவே, அதீத மனஅழுத்தம், அதீத சிரிப்பு, அதிகப்படியான
கோவம் போன்ற அதிகப்படியான உணர்வு நிலைகளிலும் மூச்சுத்திணறல் ஏற்படலாம்.

’’ஆஸ்துமா என்பது, சுவாசப் பாதை குறுகி, வீக்கம் ஏற்படும் நிலை. இதனால், சுவாசப்
பாதையில் வழக்கத்துக்கு அதிகமாக சளி (mucus) சுரக்கும். இது, சுவாசிப்பதை
சிரமமாக்கி, இருமலை ஏற்படுத்தும். மூச்சை வெளிவிடும்போது விசில் போல சத்தம்
வருவது, மூச்சுத்திணறல் என ஏற்படும். சிலருக்கு, ஆஸ்துமா உடல் நலத் தொந்தரவு
என்ற நிலையில் இருக்கும். சிலருக்கோ, தீவிரப் பிரச்னையாக வெளிப்பட்டு
அவர்களின் தினசரி இயக்கங்களை பாதித்து, உடல்நிலையை மோசமாக்கலாம்’’ என்று
கூறும் திருச்சியை சேர்ந்த நுரையீரல் சிறப்பு மருத்துவர் ஆர்.ராஜ் திலக், அது
குறித்த விழிப்புணர்வு தகவல்களை வழங்குகிறார் இங்கு...

ஆஸ்துமா... ஏன் ஏற்படுகிறது?

’’ஆஸ்துமா என்பது, நம் எதிர்ப்பு சக்தியின் அதீத வெளிப்பாடு என்று கூறலாம்.
அதாவது, சிலருக்கு உடலின் நோய் எதிர்ப்பு மண்டலம் தேவைக்கு அதிகமாக வேலை
செய்வதால், நுரையீரலுக்கு உள்ளேயும், வெளியேயும் காற்றுப் பரிமாற்றம் செய்யும்
சுவாசப் பாதை விரிவடையும். விரிவடைந்த சுவாசப்பாதையில், சாம்பிராணி புகை, சாக்பீஸ்
போன்ற புறக்காரணிகளால் அழற்சி ஏற்படும்போது, சுவாசக் குழாய் வீங்கும். இதனால்
சுவாசப் பாதை சுருங்கி, நுரையீரலுக்குச் செல்லும் காற்றின் அளவு குறையும்.
வீக்கம் அதிகரிக்கும்போது, சுவாசப் பாதை மேலும் சுருங்கி, அதிக சளியை
உருவாக்கும். இவையெல்லாம் சேர்ந்து, மூச்சு விடுவதில் தீவிர சிரமங்களை
ஏற்படுத்தும். ஆஸ்துமா என்பது ஒவ்வாமையால் ஏற்படக் கூடியது, தொற்றுநோய் அல்ல
என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.

குளிர்ச்சியான, மற்றும் மிகவும் வறட்சியான காற்றால் உந்தப்படும் ஆஸ்துமா, தூசு,
புகை, ரசாயனங்கள் என ஒருவரின் பணியிடம் காரணமாக உந்தப்படும் ஆஸ்துமா, காற்றில்
உள்ள துகள்கள் ஏற்படுத்தும் ஒவ்வாமையால் உந்தப்படும் ஆஸ்துமா என, ஆஸ்துமாவை
அதிகரிக்கும் காரணிகள் பல.

அறிகுறிகள் என்னென்ன?

இருமல், நெஞ்சுப் பகுதியில் இறுக்கம், மூச்சுத் திண்றல் போன்றவை பொதுவான
அறிகுறிகள். நபருக்கு நபர், அறிகுறிகள் வேறுபடலாம். சமாளிக்க முடியாத அளவுக்கு
மூச்சுத் திணறல் இருப்பவர்களுக்கு உடனடியாக இன்ஹேலர் போன்ற முதலுதவி
கொடுக்கப்பட்டு, மருத்துவரிடம் அழைத்துச் செல்லப்பட வேண்டும்.

அலர்ஜி தூண்டுதல்... எவையெல்லாம் ஏற்படுத்தலாம்?

ஆஸ்துமா, ஒவ்வாமையால் தூண்டப்படுகிறது என்றதும், பலருக்கும் தூசுதான் முதலில்
நினைவுக்கு வரும். ஆம்... தூசு அதிகமாக இருக்கும் இடங்களான போக்குவரத்து
நெரிசல் உள்ள சாலைகள், திருவிழா போன்ற கூட்டம் அதிகமுள்ள இடங்களில் உடனடியாக
ஒவ்வாமை தூண்டுதல் ஏற்படும். தவிரவும், ஆஸ்துமாவை தூண்டும் காரணிகள் பல.
அடர்த்தியான நறுமணப் பொருள்கள், ஊதுபத்தி, சாம்பிராணி புகை, சிகரெட்
புகை, காற்றில்
கலந்திருக்கும் மகரந்த துகள்கள், வீட்டில் வளர்க்கும் செல்லப்பிராணிகளின்
ரோமம் போன்றவையும் ஒவ்வாமையைத் தூண்டிவிடுதலில் முக்கியப் பங்கு வகிக்கின்றன.

பணியிட ஆஸ்துமா தூண்டலைப் பொறுத்தவரை, ஒருவர் தன் பணிச்சூழலில் எதிர்கொள்ள
நேரிடும் ரசாயனங்கள், புகை, நூல், ஆடை, சாக்பீஸ், புத்தகங்கள் போன்றவை உள்ள
இடங்களில் நிலவும் காற்று மாசுபாடு எனப் பலவற்றாலும் ஆஸ்துமா தூண்டப்படும்.
இதனை, பணி விடுமுறை நாள்களில் அவர்களுக்கு அறிகுறிகள் குறைந்திருப்பதைக்
கொண்டு கண்டறிய முடியும்.

வீட்டிலிருப்பவர்களுக்கு ஏற்படும் ஒவ்வாமைக்கு ஒட்டடை, தூசு, மகரந்த
துகள்கள், வளர்ப்பு
பறவைகளின் எச்சம், வளர்ப்புப் பிராணிகளின் ரோமம் போன்றவற்றின் மூலம்
மட்டுமல்லாமல் போர்வை, பெட்ஷீட், மெத்தை, சோஃபா போன்றவற்றில் இருந்து காற்றில்
கலக்கும் நுண் பூச்சிகளான ஹவுஸ் டஸ்ட் மைட் (House dust mite) மூலமும்
ஏற்படலாம்.

இந்த வெளிப்புறக் காரணிகளுடன் கூடவே, அதீத மனஅழுத்தம், அதீத சிரிப்பு,
அதிகப்படியான
கோபம் போன்ற அதிகப்படியான உணர்வு நிலைகளிலும் மூச்சுத்திணறல் ஏற்படலாம்.

என்ன பரிசோதனை?

ஆஸ்துமா அறிகுறிகள் தென்பட்டால், நுரையீரலின் செயல்திறனை அறியும் பி.எஃப்.டி (PFT
- Pulmonary function testing) பரிசோதனை செய்து, உறுதிப்படுத்தலாம்.
மருத்துவரின் ஆலோசனைப்படி மருந்து, மாத்திரைகளையும், சிகிச்சைக் காலத்தையும்
தொடர வேண்டும்.

எப்படி தவிர்ப்பது, சிகிச்சை என்ன?

ஆஸ்துமாவுக்கான தூண்டுதல் ஒவ்வொருவருக்கும் அவரின் சூழலைப் பொறுத்து மாறுபடும்
என்பதால், ஒவ்வாமைக்கான காரணிகளைக் கண்டறிந்து அதிலிருந்து விலகியிருக்க
வேண்டும். மாஸ்க் அணிந்துகொள்வது மிகவும் உதவும். வீட்டை சுத்தமாக
வைத்துக்கொள்வது அவசியம். ஒருவேளை, குளிர் போன்ற தவிர்க்க முடியாத காரணிகள்
ஒவ்வாமைக்கு காரணமாக அமைந்தால், மருத்துவர் ஆலோசனை மற்றும் சிகிச்சை அவசியம்.

ஆஸ்துமா என்பது, புறக்காரணிகளால் உடலில் ஏற்படும் விளைவு (Reaction) என்பதால்
அதனை தூண்டிவிடும் காரணிகளிடமிருந்து விலகியிருப்பது, ஆஸ்துமா சரியாவதற்குச்
சமமாகும். கூடவே, தேவைப்படுபவர்கள் சிகிச்சையையும் எடுத்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டும்.
தவறும்பட்சத்தில், நுரையீரலில் தீவிர பாதிப்புகள் ஏற்படும்.’’

சுவாசிப்போம்... சிக்கல் இல்லாமல்!  K R IRS 2624

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action against Yes and ICICI

இந்த 2 வங்கிகள் மீது நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கும் ரிசர்வ் வங்கி.. வாடிக்கையாளர்களே
உஷார்.. எந்த வங்கி தெரியுமா?

First Published May 28, 2024, 6:58 PM IST

ரிசர்வ் வங்கி இந்த 2 பெரிய வங்கிகள் மீது பெரிய நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கிறது.
கோடிக்கணக்கில் அபராதம் விதிக்கிறது. அது எந்த வங்கி தொடர்பான விவரங்களை
தெரிந்து கொள்ளுங்கள்.

இரண்டு பெரிய தனியார் வங்கிகள் மீது இந்திய ரிசர்வ் வங்கி (ஆர்பிஐ) நடவடிக்கை
எடுத்துள்ளது. அவர்களுக்கு ரூ.1.91 கோடி அபராதம் விதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இந்த
வங்கிகளில் YES வங்கி மற்றும் ICICI வங்கி ஆகியவை அடங்கும். மத்திய வங்கியின்
அறிவுறுத்தல்களுக்கு இணங்காததாலும், உள்/அலுவலக கணக்குகளின் அங்கீகரிக்கப்படாத
செயல்பாடுகளாலும் இந்த அபராதம் விதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

வங்கி ஒழுங்குமுறைச் சட்டம் 1949ன் கீழ் இந்த நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.
இரண்டு வங்கிகளும் மத்திய வங்கியின் அறிவுறுத்தல்களுக்கு இணங்கவில்லை என்று
ரிசர்வ் வங்கி கண்டறிந்துள்ளது. திட்டங்களின் நம்பகத்தன்மை மற்றும் தகுதி
மற்றும் கடன்கள் திருப்பிச் செலுத்தப்படுமா இல்லையா என்பதைக் கண்டறியாமல் சில
நிறுவனங்களுக்கு கடன்களை அனுமதித்துள்ளதாக ரிசர்வ் வங்கி கண்டறிந்துள்ளது.

அதே நேரத்தில், யெஸ் (YES) வங்கியில், சேமிப்பு கணக்குகளில் குறைந்தபட்ச
இருப்பு நிபந்தனைகளை வங்கி பூர்த்தி செய்யவில்லை என்று கட்டுப்பாட்டாளர்
கண்டறிந்தார். வங்கி வாடிக்கையாளர்களின் பெயரில் பூஜ்ஜிய இருப்புடன் சில உள்
கணக்குகளைத் திறந்தது. ஒழுங்குமுறை இணங்குவதில் உள்ள குறைபாட்டைக் கருத்தில்
கொண்டு இந்த நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

அதன் நோக்கம் வாடிக்கையாளர்களுடன் வங்கியால் செய்யப்படும் எந்தவொரு பரிவர்த்தனை
அல்லது ஒப்பந்தத்தின் செல்லுபடியை பாதிக்காது. இரண்டு வங்கிகளும் சமீபகாலமாக
பிரச்சனைகளை சந்தித்துள்ளன. ஐசிஐசிஐ வங்கி மற்றும் யெஸ் வங்கி ஆகிய இரண்டும்
இந்தியாவில் முன்னணி தனியார் துறை வங்கிகள். ஆனால், இந்த இரண்டு வங்கிகளும்
சமீப காலமாக சில சவால்களை எதிர்கொண்டுள்ளன.

ஐசிஐசிஐ வங்கி செயல்படாத கடன்களை (என்பிஏக்கள்), நிர்வாகக் கவலைகள் மற்றும்
தொழில்நுட்பக் கோளாறுகளை எதிர்கொள்கிறது. அதே நேரத்தில், YES வங்கி நிதி
நெருக்கடி மற்றும் வாடிக்கையாளர் இடம்பெயர்வு போன்ற பிரச்சனைகளை
எதிர்கொண்டுள்ளது. இருப்பினும், இந்த சவால்களை சமாளிக்க இரு வங்கிகளும் பல
நடவடிக்கைகளை எடுத்துள்ளன.

RBI will take action against these 2 banks.. Customers beware.. Do you know
which bank?

First Published May 28, 2024, 6:58 PM IST

RBI is taking big action on these 2 big banks. Penalties run into crores.
Find out the details related to which bank it is.

The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has taken action against two large private
banks. A fine of Rs.1.91 crore has been imposed on them. These banks
include YES Bank and ICICI Bank. This penalty is imposed for non-compliance
of Central Bank instructions and unauthorized operation of internal/office
accounts.

This action has been taken under the Banking Regulation Act, 1949. The RBI
has found that the two banks have not complied with the central bank's
instructions. The Reserve Bank has found that it has sanctioned loans to
some companies without ascertaining the credibility and merit of the
projects and whether the loans will be repaid or not.

At the same time, in YES Bank, the regulator found that the bank did not
meet the minimum balance requirements in savings accounts. The bank opened
some internal accounts with zero balance in the name of customers. This
action has been taken in view of the lack of regulatory compliance.

Its purpose shall not affect the validity of any transaction or contract
entered into by the Bank with its customers. Both banks have been in
trouble recently. Both ICICI Bank and Yes Bank are leading private sector
banks in India. However, these two banks have faced some challenges
recently.

ICICI Bank faces non-performing loans (NPAs), governance concerns and
technical glitches. At the same time, YES Bank is facing problems like
financial crisis and customer migration. However, both the banks have taken
several steps to overcome these challenges.

KR I have ac in Yes Bank; as the service was poor they withdrew all and
asked them to close the accounts; they were dilly dallying levying charges
for non maintenance of minimum balance and refused to close as it is in
minus. Now what will they do?

K Rajaram IRS 1624

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Our clan Indian american from New jersey Sruthi

Smashed with her voice yesterday Vijay TV super singer Brilliant voice
culture well trained in USA in western notes. That key board Karthik s/o
Devarajan was with Music director DEVA' If she is a longu mallari in
singing, Karthik is world rounder with A R Rahman. Unmarried as he earns ;
I am told that for Vijay TV he comes by flight and returns back that night
to joina music program elsewhere in australia. What a finger; I also Play
so I envy him. My fingers nowadays are not that quick. When we were
travelling by ship to SriKanka on the board there was a music piano (like a
keyboard but softer than keyboard) where I played K sara sara ; and I was
surprised to find so many in that hall clapping behind me; and the ship
captain asked me wine or Juice. Music memories are always rhythmic. K
Rajaram IRS 2624  Now music through FB link:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/G9R6e1U831JVmEB3/?mibextid=xfxF2i

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Re: Thought for the Day 2nd June 2024

Well called for over that relationship; but sir,it is mutual and not
sacrifice; a lot of women of the earth went unheard, in spite of the best
relationship they cared to make from their sides only. KR IRS 1624  2624

On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 17:57, Jambunathan Iyer  wrote:

> A relationship is not easy to maintain. It takes time, effort and
> dedication to make a relationship work. Only with true intention can
> you make it last.
>
> N Jambunathan Rengarajapuram-Kodambakkam-Chennai-Mob:9176159004
>
> *" What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you
> become by achieving your goals. If you want to live a happy life, tie it to
> a goal, not to people or things "*
>
>

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A sample of sanskrit conversation by Sringeri mutt students with Ramakrisna Mutt

https://youtu.be/dXhkRkC1JdQ?list=PL-3IQqoCBO3OXStE9fnPImU400ipmznMV  A
sample for those who say we dont know sanskrit, an inducement to learn the
rashtra bhasha KR IRS 2624

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Music That I heard 20

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mtSDj11PHoB8sfp_iQSR1bWsejUAU-HL/view?usp=sharing
  Neelothpalam Indian2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r8Vy_fUfUGxD6Dx_i4gYc9JYf65wBvLa/view?usp=sharing
   Naan pizhai
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-nYe1ZCNp80Q5QmxIFob1sf4Z3i7-ssD/view?usp=sharing
  Kangal edho
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NfZiqy9I-lS5ZrhLgFBm7OPk75d-nFCs/view?usp=sharing
Kovaik kulira
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1okkJcR1PxoZle6J4n9-xrqYHoO4nvmII/view?usp=sharing
   Naan pogiren mele mele
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ghIMqu3Rfs2LyfqDfx0VLVKzeF1X0NYP/view?usp=sharing
  Nira Nira
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gc5qQKh5bzEWlXv_nq9UTstmcoeNWKZB/view?usp=sharing
 Kannamma azhagu
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11purmSTkSbQxfWbjILi9s9UJq99BFVxv/view?usp=sharing
 Susekki Telugu
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gOoJok8nymWfayCD6HQTa1nhH5EFNjIV/view?usp=sharing
 Urugi urugi
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TRN1ghWEuvpiTvkKL6POBk5knBZYLsGr/view?usp=sharing
  Kattumalli
https://drive.google.com/file/d/107IcNf5oUqSCgYS2mUn2X2_Afsv4FjsV/view?usp=sharing
   Ean ennai pirindai sid sriram
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fyxDie3aUpdSUzXkO6CnQFVI5v_30_Ek/view?usp=sharing
   Nagumomu teerale telugu sid sriram
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1idfNp-8sT-uj3q5bOAGTaM6GSOhCiL_N/view?usp=sharing
Idyam ketkum
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PExtUx3Vk8E0mVnMqXrfYqSEHVemMg6r/view?usp=sharing
  Nee kavithaigala
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kfJI1ZI_56E3UxCc2Jtq9gW6dzmy02Xj/view?usp=sharing
Nee niduvutha telugu parallel tamil is there
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16pOgmcvVsRKbVFzVRy64Nl4kP7xK5oy2/view?usp=sharing
 Neeyum nanum anbe
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wmVbP-TJHMQ1wBjOYeHoI_mOSCiVQg4i/view?usp=sharing
 Saho Baby Telugu
https://drive.google.com/file/d/127anLkiUGWCDTkRazgQGsyieufpQyGS7/view?usp=sharing
   Edho seigiray vamanan
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bmMIakL2aKdd5HnnZJW9kQQDQL5i--ev/view?usp=sharing
 Ennadi mayavi
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-vkxIOg3_0JvXLYanaRLG5ICsWbAgqlF/view?usp=sharing
 Mudalum mudivum nee
K Rajaram  IRS 1624 2624

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I liked it May be you too

A neat painting , color finishing I dont know whether Radhakrishnan was
only like that but omraj paintings are different kinds KR IRS  1624
[image: radhakrishnan.jpg]நீலத்தின் வண்ணம் வானில்
நிலவின் வானத்து  தெரிவது போல்
பகலவன் வானம், நிறம் குன்றிய நீலம்
நீலனும் நிலவும் நினைவுகளில்
நினைவலைகளை நீங்க ஒளி என
நீக்கமற நிறைக்கின்றனரோ?   K Rajaram  IRS 1624

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Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 06-2024-01

CULTURAL QA 06202401

Q1 Was there a time where we, as a species, almost went extinct?

Q   Ung-Jin Kim,Former Biologist, Director of Human Genome Center at
California Institute of Technology (Caltech) (1989–2019)Updated Mar 29

KR He is revealing a theory; just a theory that is supposed to have
occurred in the volcanic belt even today in Indonesia, scattering all over
the ashes. Yet even the world of science had not made it absolute. The
fault of misunderstanding as an answer rendered, squarely lies over the
wrong reader and reporting.  All over the web sites TOBA is there.

The truth and the lies about Toba eruption and extinction theory

The Toba eruption and its potential role in human evolution and extinction
is a topic that has generated significant scientific debate and
*speculation.* Here's an overview of some of the truths and misconceptions
surrounding the Toba eruption and its connection to extinction theories:

Truths:  Toba Eruption: The Toba eruption occurred approximately 74,000
years ago on the island of Sumatra, Indonesia. It was one of the largest
volcanic eruptions in the last two million years, with a Volcanic
Explosivity Index (VEI) of 8, making it a super-eruption. Climate Impact:
The eruption likely had significant global climate effects, including a
temporary cooling of the Earth's climate due to the release of large
amounts of ash, sulphur dioxide, and other gases into the atmosphere.
This *could
have* led to a volcanic winter, affecting global temperatures and weather
patterns for several years.  Genetic Bottleneck: *Some *genetic evidence
suggests a *significant* reduction in human population size around the time
of the Toba eruption, leading to the hypothesis of a genetic bottleneck.
This idea proposes that the eruption *may have led to* a severe reduction
in the human population, potentially affecting the genetic diversity of
Homo sapiens.

Misconceptions:   Extinction Event: While the Toba eruption is often cited
as a potential cause of a human population bottleneck, there is ongoing
debate among scientists about its actual impact on human populations and
whether it led to a near-extinction event. Some studies suggest that human
populations may have been resilient and adaptable enough to survive the
climatic effects of the eruption. Sole Cause of Extinction: The Toba
eruption is unlikely to have been the sole cause of any extinction event,
including the extinction of other hominin species such as Homo erectus or
Homo neanderthalensis. Multiple factors, including climate change,
competition with other species, and human behavioural adaptations, likely
played roles in the extinction of various species. Impact on Evolution:
While the Toba eruption may have had some impact on human populations and
genetic diversity, its precise role in human evolution is still uncertain.
Some researchers propose that the eruption may have influenced human
migration patterns or cultural developments, but direct evidence for these
hypotheses is limited. In summary, the Toba eruption was a significant
volcanic event with potential global climate impacts, but its exact role in
human evolution and extinction remains a subject of ongoing scientific
investigation and debate. It's essential to critically evaluate the
evidence and consider multiple factors when discussing the Toba eruption
and its implications for human history.

It is also written in a similar frame, if so, why such Q and A at all? It
is spoken as if Amazon Forest is cropped up. On the contrary we have our
scriptures narrating the evolution and involutions explained as Srishti,
Stuthi and Samharam. Think before you ink please.

 Q2 What happens when you don't put your phone on airplane mode
on an airplane, and you use the wifi?

KR   Another waste Q and A. Any phone will not show the welcome
message in each halt sir; international roaming access must be there.
Suppose you are using only BSNL, it will not show any welcome message other
than Chennai for example. Q is  PURPOSE OF AIRPLANE MODE.

Airplane mode is a feature found on most smartphones and other electronic
devices that disables their wireless communication abilities. Its
primary purpose
is to ensure that electronic devices comply with airline regulations during
flights. Here are some specific reasons for using airplane mode:

Airplane mode prevents electronic devices from *emitting radio frequency
signals that could potentially interfere with aircraft communication* *and
navigation systems*. This interference could disrupt important flight
operations and compromise safety. Many airlines and aviation authorities
require passengers to switch their electronic devices to airplane mode
during take-off and landing and throughout the flight. This requirement is
intended to minimize the risk of interference and ensure compliance with
safety regulations. (Tower communication to plane interruptions). Disabling
wireless connections in airplane

Re: Fwd - wise saying

அல்லவை தேய நல்லவை பெருகும்
நல்லவை பெருகி வல்லமை கூடும்
வல்லமை கூட்டம், தீயவை ஒடுக்கும்
தீயவை விலகி யாதும் நன்மையே. K Rajaram  IRS  1624

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Re: [iyer123] Thoughts

The theory of distinguishing good from bad, often referred to as ethics or
moral philosophy, is a vast and complex field that has been explored by
philosophers for centuries. Here are some key concepts and approaches
within this theory:

   1.

   This ethical theory, associated with philosophers like Jiddu
   Krishnamurthy and Jis of Hindus, suggests that the best action is the one
   that maximizes utility, typically defined as happiness or well-being,
   for the greatest number of people.
   2.

   Deontological ethics, as championed by Immanuel Kant, and many
   Indian Philosophies, focus on the inherent rightness or wrongness of
   actions themselves, wrt the  consequences,which emphasizes universality
   and consistency.   What generally thought of by many for example Duryodana
   was bad, if twisted by the minority as Good, then such rare pieces are
   megalomaniacs who have the confused minds to see  the opposites in
   everything. Such are drivers who indicate right turn, but swerve to the
   left.
   3.

   This approach, rooted in the works of Aristotle, emphasizes the
   development of virtuous character traits. Virtue ethics suggests that
   acting in accordance with virtues like honesty, courage, and compassion
   leads to moral behavior and a good life. Virtue will recognise the
   virtue; the non virtue will feign non-recognition as a virtue
   4.

   Ethical relativism posits that morality is relative to individual or
   cultural beliefs, meaning that what is considered morally right or wrong
   can vary depending on context or perspective. That is landing in
   troubles of recognitions and turns many into a feudalists. @ jihadis out of
   irregular perspectives.
   5.

   This theory asserts that individuals ought to act in their own
   self-interest. It suggests that promoting one's own well-being is the
   ultimate good, and that one should prioritize their own needs and desires
   over those of others. Thus the bad ones are sgregated easily by their
   acts; so good are visible.
   6.

   Social contract theorists, such as Yaksh-prasnam propose that morality
   arises from the implicit agreements or contracts that individuals make
   with one another to form societies. According to this view, moral rules
   are those that rational individuals would agree to follow for the sake of
   mutual benefit and social harmony.  They tend to arrest the good inside
   home.
   7.

   This approach critiques traditional ethical theories for their often
   male-centric perspectives and advocates for the inclusion of women's
   experiences and values in ethical discourse. Feminist ethicists explore
   issues such as care, empathy, and relationality in moral decision-making.
   So they even if villainy, will sift the bad from the Good.

These are just a few of the many theories and perspectives within the field
of ethics. Each offers its own insights and critiques of how to distinguish
between good and bad actions, and scholars continue to debate their merits
and applicability in various contexts.  And finally, when the righteousness
is sealed by the tantrums  of the bad, that is an indication thhatbad
elements are on the prowls, to select the silent souls of the peace. K
Rajaram IRS 1624

On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 00:25, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Respected sir,
>
> Very very correct lines. Thank you very much for posting these positive
> thoughts in the morning now.
>
> I read your "thoughts" everyday.
>
> But how to know good people? Some people's behavior appear very good,
> suddenly they will change their nature. if a person is admired good by
> most, we may also accept him as Good. Only possible way.
>
> I had a lecturer taught us code rules of the department. He showed his
> simple dress he was  wearing, telling he was not affordable to purchase a
> Terlin shirt (1966's). He was such a strict person, but in later period in
> the field as an officer,  his behavior was much different...
>
> Many persons behave very good, but with inner motives. Sometimes persons
> we may  consider bad, may be having pure heart and all his bad activities
> may be for achieving  *something good*
>
> Gopalakrishan
>
>
> On Saturday, 1 June, 2024 at 10:00:02 am IST, Rama 
> wrote:
>
>
> *The importance of good people in our life is just like the importance
> of heartbeats,*
>
> *It's not visible but* *silently supports our life ..*
>
> Cheers
> Rama
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Sanathana dharma part 41 K Rajaram IRS 31524 1624 contd

Sanathana dharma part 41 K Rajaram IRS 31524 1624 contd

ACTION IN INACTION

In serving others we may have to undergo hardships, make sacrifices and
exert ourselves physically. But the happiness and sense of fullness we
obtain is far greater compared to the trouble taken by us. The Lord does
not have to gain anything form the puja we perform. In worshipping him, in
reading the sacred texts, in going on pilgrimages we find inward joy. Why
do we perform puja and why do we help others? It is all our own
satisfaction.

The world is a manifestation of the Paramatman and so must we be too. We
must remove the mirror called the mind and experience the truth within us
that we are none other than the Paramatman. This is what is called
meditation. All the work we do ought to lead finally to worklessness, to
the mediation of the Atman. The goal of all the sacraments I speak about is
this.

Our actions make us happy in many ways. But in none of these actions do we
find the peace that we enjoy during sleep. How do we suffer if we lose even
a single night's sleep? There is so much happiness in sleep. Do we not
realise from this that the supreme "comfort"or happiness is worklessness.
Dhyana or meditation is the state of being absorbed in the Paramatman, a
state of non-doing.

In sleep we are not conscious that we are happy. It is only when we are
awake that we realise that we are happy when we were asleep. The ultimate
goal of meditation is samadhi in which we are fully conscious of the great
bliss experienced by us. If we teach ourselves to remain in a state of
non-doing within (inside ourselves) we will experience tranquillity even
though we keep working outwardly. The inner peace will never be disturbed.

The quietude of Daksinamurti is the bliss of knowingness. It is not the
same as the stilling of mind during sleep. In sleep there is no voluntary
control of the mind; the mind becomes still because of exhaustion. Such
stillness we are not capable of sustaining on our own. What remains during
sleep, without being subject to our control, returns on our awakening again
without being subject to our control.

Death too is a kind of sleep. In it, too, the mind is still. But with
rebirth when the individual self becomes incarnate the mind starts to be
active again. If we learn to control the mind voluntarily it will be able
to remain in that state. Though Daksinamurti remains still without doing
anything he is full of awareness. It is because he is inwardly a non-doer
that he is able to do so much in an outward sense. The Daksinamurthi who
remains still is the one who dances the dance of bliss, who destroys the
demon Tripura and who keeps roaming as a mendicant. After granting boons to
his devotees, he goes from place to place. He is still inwardly but is in a
frenzy outwardly. If we manage to still ourselves inwardly, we will be able
to do so much outwardly.

குறள் 339:

உறங்கு வதுபோலுஞ் சாக்காடு உறங்கி

விழிப்பது போலும் பிறப்பு.

உறங்குவது போன்றது சாவு; உறங்கி விழிப்பது போன்றது பிறப்பு.

Death is sinking into slumbers deep;

Birth again is waking out of sleep.

Death is like sleep; birth is like waking from it.

uRangu vadhupoalunhj saakkaatu uRangi

vizhippadhu poalum piRappu

Outward calm is the first step towards inward stillness -- and this
stillness is to be brought about in degrees and will not be gained at once.
That is why the wise tell us: "Reduce all your sensual activities. Do not
join the crowd. Try to disengage yourself from all work including that of
doing good to the world. Keep away from money and dwell in the forest." But
do we listen to that advice? We shall do so only when our mind is cleansed.

That is why so many rituals are prescribed to purify the mind, the
consciousness. It means that, instead of asking us not to do this and that,
we are asked to do(perform)this and that rite. It is natural for us to be
involved in some work or other. So, without any regard for our personal
likes and dislikes, we perform the rites laid down in the sastras. Even
here our personal likes and dislikes will intrude but, unlike in the matter
of meditation, we succeed to some extent at least in curbing them during
the conduct of the rites. In due course, with the grace of the Lord, we
will be able to perform good works without minding the discomfort and
ignoring our personal likes and dislikes. Desire and hatred will be reduced
and the mind will become pure. With the mind cleansed we will be able to
perform one-pointed meditation. This is the time when we will be mature
enough to forsake all works and become a forest recluse and practice
meditation. If we are able to meditate with utter one-pointedness then
everything will acquire the character of the Paramatman. There will be no
need to leave everything and remain holding the nose with the hand. The
forest, the village, solitude and crowd -- they are all the Paramatman.
Both work and meditation are the Paramatman. Our inner peace will not be
shaken by anything.

trees growing on the sandy bank of a river. Bhartrhari Xxxxxxxxxxxx

Those from whom we were born have long since departed, and those with whom
we grew up exist only in memory. We, too, through the approach of death,
become, as it were, trees growing on the sandy bank of a river. Bhartrhari

Xxxx

The Impermanence of Life and Legacy in Bhartrhari’ s Wisdom

Bhartrhari, an ancient Indian philosopher and poet, poignantly encapsulates
the transient nature of human existence in his verse: "Those from whom we
were born have long since departed, and those with whom we grew up exist
only in memory. We, too, through the approach of death, become, as it were,
trees growing on the sandy bank of a river." This reflection invites us to
contemplate the fleeting essence of life, the enduring impact of our
predecessors, and our own inevitable journey towards mortality. His
metaphor of trees on a sandy riverbank underscores the fragile and
ephemeral nature of human life, emphasizing both the continuity and
impermanence that define our existence.

The Departed AncestorsThe initial part of Bhartrhari’ s verse, "Those
from whom we were born have long since departed," speaks to the
inevitability of generational change. Our ancestors, who once were the
bedrock of our existence, have passed away, leaving behind their legacies,
values, and memories. This loss is a universal experience, transcending
cultures and epochs. It highlights the cycle of life and death, where each
generation builds upon the remnants of the previous ones. The wisdom,
traditions, and knowledge imparted by those who have departed shape our
lives, even as their physical presence fades into the annals of history.

The Ephemeral Companions Bhartrhari continues, "and those with whom we
grew up exist only in memory," evoking a deep sense of nostalgia and loss.
The friends and companions of our youth, who once filled our days with joy,
laughter, and shared experiences, become mere recollections as time
progresses. This aspect of the verse underscores the transient nature of
human relationships and the inevitability of change. People move away,
paths diverge, and memories become the only tangible link to our past. The
poignancy of these lost connections serves as a reminder of the importance
of cherishing the present moments and nurturing the relationships we hold
dear.

Our Own Mortality The verse culminates with a profound reflection on
our own mortality: "We, too, through the approach of death, become, as it
were, trees growing on the sandy bank of a river." This metaphor vividly
captures the essence of human life as fragile and impermanent. Just as
trees on a sandy bank face the constant threat of erosion and displacement
by the river's flow, we, too, are subject to the inexorable passage of
time. Our lives, though seemingly stable and rooted, are continually shaped
and ultimately swept away by the currents of time and mortality.

This imagery also suggests a sense of resilience and beauty amidst
impermanence. Trees, despite their precarious positions, continue to grow
and flourish, symbolizing the human spirit's tenacity and capacity for
growth even in the face of inevitable decline. The sandy bank represents
the ever-changing, unstable foundation upon which life is built, reminding
us that stability is an illusion and change is the only constant.

The Continuity of Life and Legacy While Bhartrhari’ s verse poignantly
highlights the impermanence of life, it also subtly alludes to the
continuity of existence and the enduring impact of our lives on future
generations. Just as we are shaped by those who came before us, our
actions, values, and legacies will influence those who come after us. This
cyclical nature of life ensures that, even as individuals fade away, the
collective human experience continues to evolve and persist.

In this context, Bhartrhari’ s reflection encourages us to live with
intention and mindfulness, recognizing the impermanent nature of our
existence while striving to leave a positive and lasting impact on the
world. By embracing the present, honouring our connections, and
contributing to the well-being of future generations, we can find meaning
and purpose in the face of life's inherent transience.

Bhartrhari's poignant verse serves as a profound meditation on the nature
of life, memory, and mortality. It reminds us of the inevitability of loss,
the fleeting nature of human connections, and our own mortality. Yet,
amidst this impermanence, there is beauty, resilience, and the enduring
continuity of life and legacy. By embracing these truths, we can find
deeper meaning and purpose, cherishing the present, honouring the past, and
contributing to the future. In doing so, we become part of the timeless
flow of human existence, akin to trees growing on the sandy bank of a
river, rooted in the ever-changing landscape of life.

அன்பும் சிவமும் இரண்டென்பர் அறிவிலார்

அன்பேசிவமாவது யாரும் அறிகிலார்

அன்பே சிவமாவது யாரும் அறிந்தபின்

அன்பேசிவமாய் அமர்ந்திருந்தாரே (Tirumular

Good ones from feriend

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dVFIfNlmbx6KaSLC5_hNB7sNdjiSPZHr/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DVCQ1Zmey-cFFSz2RWvoRtgXzYuZZOzw/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1egLT-aW3f8lkccVirAwLYuxNHPOGWVyx/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jhZ3Gu_-3fdKkuKTpbiSUNVHoMWWReuX/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10JoT_dQ-nXysMdOpF9Z6pMAJ2JEl4JZ7/view?usp=sharing
K Rajaram IRS 1624

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Re: Thought for the Day 1st June 2024

The "arrows of time" concept, as described by the Japanese physicist
Hitoshi Murayama, refers to various ways in which time asymmetry manifests
in the universe. Murayama, a professor known for his contributions to
theoretical physics and cosmology, outlines several distinct arrows of
time, which can be summarized as follows:

1.   *Thermodynamic Arrow of Time*:

· This arrow is based on the second law of thermodynamics, which
states that the entropy, or disorder, of a closed system always increases
over time. This law gives a direction to time, as processes naturally move
from states of lower entropy to higher entropy.

2.   *Cosmological Arrow of Time*:

· This arrow is defined by the expansion of the universe. The
universe is observed to be expanding, meaning it was smaller and denser in
the past and will continue to expand in the future. This expansion provides
a clear direction to time on a cosmological scale.

3.   *Radiative Arrow of Time*:

· This arrow is related to the behavior of waves and radiation. For
instance, when a stone is thrown into a pond, ripples spread outward from
the point of impact. The time-reversed situation, where ripples converge to
a single point, is not observed in nature. This asymmetry in wave
propagation defines the radiative arrow of time.

4.   *Causal Arrow of Time*:

· This arrow is grounded in the principle of causality, which
dictates that causes precede their effects. This cause-and-effect
relationship provides a clear direction for time, where past events
influence future events but not the other way around.

5.   *Psychological Arrow of Time*:

· This arrow is based on human perception of time. We remember the
past but not the future, and our sense of time's flow is aligned with the
thermodynamic arrow, as we perceive time to move from lower to higher
entropy.

6.   *Quantum Arrow of Time*:

· In quantum mechanics, the measurement process introduces an arrow
of time. Quantum systems evolve in a time-symmetric way according to the
Schrödinger equation, but the act of measurement collapses the wave
function in a way that introduces a direction to time.

Murayama's explanation of the arrows of time highlights the multifaceted
nature of time asymmetry, emphasizing that while the fundamental laws of
physics are often time-symmetric, various processes and observations
introduce a clear direction to the flow of time. These arrows of time help
us understand the irreversible nature of certain phenomena and the
consistent forward progression of time as we experience it.

Maitrya Upanishad:  In the third part, in paragraphs 6.11 to 6.17, the text
states that food is the cause of all that is in space and hidden
principles, then expands the idea to include time by calling Kala (Time) is
the cause of food, and then celebrates Time as Brahman. Food, states the
sixth Prapāṭhaka, is the source of the world, Time is the origin of food,
and Sun is the origin of Time. It symbolically maps the Time and Timeless
as changing reality and the unchanging Brahman, respectively. There is a
motley collection of ideas in the discussion of Kala (Time), within the
sixth Prapathaka of the Upanishad. For example, in section 6.14, it sets
out to prove Time exists, acknowledges the difficulty in proving Time
exists by Pramana (epistemology in Indian philosophy), then inserts a
theory of inductive inference for epistemological proof as follows,

On account of subtleness of Time, this is the proof of its reality;

On account of it the Time is demonstrated.

Because without proof, the assumption which is to be proved, is not
admissible; But, that which is itself to be proved or demonstrated, when
one comprehends it in its parts, becomes the ground of proof, through which
it brings itself into consciousness (in the inductive way). — Maitri
Upanishad 6.14K RAJARAM  IRS  31524 1624

On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 17:56, Jambunathan Iyer 
wrote:

> **This time will pass soon*.*
>
> If you read the above Line, it in good time, you will feel sad, but it is
> necessary to keep this in mind so don’t be arrogant and keep on doing good
> for society rather than being selfish.
>
> If you read the above Line in bad time, you will get the confidence that
> with my hard work and passion i can change the situation.
>
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நாடாளுமன்றத் தேர்தல் முடிவுகள் வெளியாகவிருக்கும் நிலையில், ராணுவத்
தளபதிக்குப் பதவி நீட்டிப்பு, மத்திய அரசின் துறைச் செயலாளர்கள் மாற்றம் என
அதிரடி காட்டியிருக்கிறது மோடி தலைமையிலான காபந்து அரசு. `இந்த
அதிரடிகளுக்குப் பின்னால் இருப்பது என்ன?’ என விவாதங்கள் கிளம்பியிருக்கின்றன.

ராணுவத் தளபதிக்குப் பதவி நீட்டிப்பு!

`பொறியியல்துறையில் பட்டம் பெற்று, ராணுவத் தளபதியாகப் பதவியேற்ற முதல்
அதிகாரி’ என்ற பெருமையைத் தன்வசம் வைத்திருக்கிறார் மனோஜ் பாண்டே. 2022-ம்
ஆண்டு முதல் இந்திய ராணுவப் படையின் தளபதியாக இருக்கும் மனோஜ் பாண்டேவின்
பதவிக்காலம், மே 31-ம் தேதியோடு முடிவடைகிறது. இந்த நிலையில், மே 26-ம் தேதி
அன்று கூடிய மத்திய அமைச்சரவை, மனோஜ் பாண்டேவுக்கு ஜூன் 30-ம் தேதி வரை பதவி
நீட்டிப்பு வழங்க முடிவெடுத்தது.

மனோஜ் பாண்டேவுக்கு அடுத்த இடத்தில் ராணுவத் துணைத் தளபதியான உபேந்திர திவேதி,
தென்னிந்திய ராணுவத் தளபதி அஜய் குமார் சிங் ஆகியோர் இருக்கின்றனர். இவர்களது
பதவிக்காலமும் ஜூன் 30-ம் தேதியோடு முடிவடைவதால், இருவரும் ராணுவத்
தளபதியாகும் வாய்ப்பை இழக்கும் சூழல் உருவாகியிருக்கிறது. இந்தியாவில், `உயர்
பொறுப்பிலிருக்கும் ராணுவ அதிகாரியை, அவர் ஓய்வுபெறும் நாளில்கூட ராணுவத்
தளபதியாக நியமிக்கலாம்’ என்று விதி இருக்கிறது. அப்படியிருந்தும், உபேந்திர
திவேதி, அஜய் குமார் சிங் ஆகியோரை விட்டுவிட்டு மனோஜ் பாண்டேவுக்கு பதவி
நீட்டிப்பு வழங்கியது பல்வேறு சந்தேகங்களுக்கு வழி வகுத்திருக்கிறது.
[image: ராணுவத் தளபதிக்குப் பதவி நீட்டிப்பு... துறைச் செயலாளர்கள்
மாற்றம்...]

ஏ.ஐ.எம்.ஐ.எம் கட்சியின் தலைவர் அசாதுதீன் ஓவைசி, ``தேர்தல் பிரசார காலத்தில்
பணியாற்றிய ராணுவத் தளபதியின் பதவிக் காலத்தை, அவர் ஓய்வுபெறுவதற்கு சில
நாள்களுக்கு முன்பு நீட்டித்தது சரியல்ல. மோடி அரசுக்கு, அவர் ஓய்வுபெறும்
தேதி முன்பே தெரியும். அப்படியிருக்கையில், அடுத்த தளபதியை நீண்ட காலத்துக்கு
முன்பே அறிவித்திருக்க வேண்டும்” என்கிறார்.

துறைச் செயலாளர்கள் மாற்றம்!

இறுதிக்கட்ட தேர்தல் நெருங்கிக்கொண்டிருந்த சூழலில், மத்திய அரசின் முக்கிய
அதிகாரிகள் சிலர் இடமாற்றம் செய்யப்பட்டிருப்பதும் விவாதமானது. இது தொடர்பாக
மத்திய பணியாளர் அமைச்சகம் வெளியிட்டிருக்கும் அறிவிப்பில், மத்திய
அமைச்சரவையின் செயலாளர் (ஒருங்கிணைப்பு) பிரதீப் குமார் திரிபாதி லோக்பால்
செயலாளராகவும், எல்லை மேலாண்மைத்துறைச் செயலாளர் ராஜ்குமார் கோயல்
நீதித்துறைச் செயலாளராகவும், ஊழியர்கள் மாநில காப்பீட்டுக் கழகத்தின்
இயக்குநர் ராஜேந்திர குமார் எல்லை மேலாண்மைத்துறை செயலாள ராகவும்
நியமிக்கப்படுவதாகத் தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறது.

மேலும், புதுடெல்லி மாநகராட்சி கவுன்சில் அதிகாரியான அமித் யாதவ் சமூக நீதி
மற்றும் அதிகாரமளித்தல் துறையின் சிறப்பு அதிகாரியாகவும், விவசாயிகள்
நலத்துறையின் சிறப்புச் செயலாளர் ராகேஷ் ரஞ்சன் பணியாளர் தேர்வு ஆணையத்தின்
தலைவராகவும் நியமிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கின்றனர். இதையடுத்து, `தேர்தல் முடிவுகள்
வெளியாகவிருக்கும் நிலையில், காபந்து அரசு ஐ.ஏ.எஸ் அதிகாரிகளை இடமாற்றம்
செய்யக் காரணம் என்ன... தேர்தல் நடத்தை விதிகள் அமலில் இருக்கும்போது இதைச்
செய்தது எப்படி... பா.ஜ.க சதித்திட்டம் தீட்டுகிறதா?’ என அடுக்கடுக்கான
கேள்விகள் சமூக வலைதளங்களில் கிளம்பியிருக்கின்றன.
[image: ராணுவத் தளபதிக்குப் பதவி நீட்டிப்பு... துறைச் செயலாளர்கள்
மாற்றம்...]

முன்னாள் தேர்தல் ஆணையர் எஸ்.ஒய்.குரேஷி, ``தேர்தல் நடத்தை விதிகள் அமலில்
இருக்கும்போது, பெரும்பாலும் அதிகாரிகளை இடமாற்றம் செய்யும் உத்தரவைத் தேர்தல்
ஆணையம்தான் பிறப்பிக்கும். அதிகாரிகள் தங்கள் வேலைகளைச் சரியாகச் செய்யாதபோதோ,
தவறுகளைக் கண்டுகொள்ளாமல் இருக்கும்போதோ எதிர்க்கட்சிகளும், தேர்தல்
பார்வையாளர் களும் புகாரளிப்பார்கள். அதன்படி, தேர்தல் ஆணையம் நடவடிக்கை
எடுக்கும். சில சமயங்களில், தாமாக முன்வந்தும் இடமாற்றங்களைத் தேர்தல் ஆணையம்
செய்யும். ஆனால், தற்போதைய இடமாற்றங்கள் அப்படி நிகழவில்லை. தேர்தல்
ஆணையத்திடம் அனுமதி பெற்றுத்தான் காபந்து அரசு இதைச் செய்திருக்க வேண்டும்’’
என்கிறார்.

காங்கிரஸின் பார்வை என்ன?

இது தொடர்பாக நம்மிடம் பேசிய தமிழ்நாடு காங்கிரஸ் செய்தித் தொடர்பாளர் இனியன்
ராபர்ட், `` `உலகம் முழுவதும் சர்வாதிகாரப் போக்கைக் கடைப்பிடித்த தலைவர்கள்,
அதிகார மாற்றத்தை அவ்வளவு சுமுகமாக நடப்பதற்கு விட்டதில்லை’ என்பதை வரலாறு
நமக்குச் சொல்கிறது. உதாரணமாக, அமெரிக்க அதிபராக ஜோ பைடன் வெற்றிபெற்ற
பிறகும், ட்ரம்ப் ஆட்சி பரிமாற்றம் செய்ய மறுத்தார். அவரின் ஆதரவாளர்கள்
கலவரம் செய்தனர். அது போன்ற விஷயத்துக்காகத்தான் மோடியின் காபந்து அரசும்,
தேர்தல் நடத்தை விதிகள் இருக்கும்போதே ராணுவத் தளபதிக்குப் பதவி நீட்டிப்பு,
துறைச் செயலாளர்கள் மாற்றம் உள்ளிட்ட விஷயங்களைச் செய்கிறதோ என்ற சந்தேகம்
இருக்கிறது.

அதேநேரம், `இந்தியா’ கூட்டணிக்குப் பெரும்பான்மை கிடைக்கும் பட்சத்தில், ஆட்சி
பரிமாற்றம் சுமுகமாக நடைபெறும் என்றே நாங்கள் நம்புகிறோம். மோடி, இந்தியாவைச்
சர்வாதிகாரப் பாதையை நோக்கி இழுத்துச் சென்றாலும், முழுமையான சர்வாதிகார நாடாக
இந்தியா மாறிவிடவில்லை. இங்கு, அரசியலமைப்பு இன்னும் உயிர்ப்புடன் இருக்கிறது
என்பதுதான் எங்கள் நம்பிக்கைக்குக் காரணம். இன்று, மோடி அரசின் ஏவல் துறைகளாக
இருக்கும் அமலாக்கத்துறை, சி.பி.ஐ உள்ளிட்ட அரசு அமைப்புகள் ஆட்சி
மாற்றத்துக்குப் பிறகு, புதிய அரசுக்கு ஆதரவு தெரிவிப்பார்கள்.
ஆட்சியமைப்பதற்கு ஒத்துழைப்பு கொடுப்பார்கள். அதிகாரத்தில் இருக்கும்போது
பா.ஜ.க

Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 05-2024-31

CULTURAL QA 05202431

Q1 What are examples of presence of mind during interview?

KR  I like the creativity fabricated by the interviewee. However,
as a comedy of error, that creativity would have ended this way also; so
you left him ditched and you regret? yes sir; Good let me in turn regret
for having rejected you since, our company needs  selfless leadership. When
he came out, he collected the data of that interviewer and regretted not
assessing and then talking; ditched him; the interviewer so young was one
who failed then, but came over and was placed in that chair, by father who
is a top director of that company. Surrealism.

Q2 Why do Indians hesitate to sleep in the evening from 4-7 pm?

KR   The advice not to sleep in the evening as Rakshasa time is
only a folklore. Pre-sleep will deprive your sleep for another 2 to 4 hrs.
But no one prevented you from a NAP with all the awareness but closing your
eyes. Taking a nap or getting some sleep can be incredibly rejuvenating!
Naps, especially short power naps, can boost alertness and enhance
performance. Meanwhile, a good night's sleep is crucial for overall health
and well-being, helping with memory consolidation, mood regulation, and
immune function. So, whether it's a quick recharge or a full night's rest,
both are essential for maintaining a balanced and healthy lifestyle. If
you're feeling tired, maybe it's time to indulge in some well-deserved
rest!

As the day progresses and evening approaches, the body's constitution can
undergo various changes influenced by factors such as circadian rhythm,
activity levels, and dietary intake. Here are a few common observations
about the body's constitution towards evening:

Energy Levels: Typically, energy levels may start to decrease as the day
goes on, especially if you've been active throughout the day. This decrease
in energy can signal to the body that it's time to wind down and prepare
for rest.

Digestive Processes: Digestive processes may slow down towards evening, as
the body shifts focus from energy-intensive activities to relaxation and
repair. Eating heavy meals late in the evening can sometimes disrupt
digestion and lead to discomfort during sleep.

Temperature Regulation: Body temperature tends to decrease slightly towards
evening, which can contribute to feelings of relaxation and drowsiness.
This drop in temperature is part of the body's natural preparation for
sleep.

Hormonal Changes: Hormonal fluctuations, including the release of
melatonin, start to increase towards evening. Melatonin is a hormone that
regulates sleep-wake cycles, signalling to the body that it's time to
prepare for sleep. And if one sleeps well, melatonin changes or gets
confused in that circadian rhythm; hence evening seep is to be avoided.

Muscle Relaxation: Muscles may start to relax towards evening, especially
if you've been active during the day. Stretching or engaging in relaxation
techniques can help further promote muscle relaxation and prepare the body
for rest. On the contrary the sleep will induce the muscle to stop
irregularly and may induce cramps in due course.

Mental State: Towards evening, many people experience a shift in their
mental state, with feelings of relaxation or calmness becoming more
prominent. This can be attributed to a combination of factors, including
the release of endorphins and the winding down of daily activities.
Endorphin is necessary for blood circulation and when you sleep, you deny
that secretion which will act against in future. As a matter of fact Hitler
was aware of the evening mental state, so used to lecture meetings with
workers returning back from the factories and captured the power.

Overall, the body's constitution towards evening reflects its natural
rhythms and the gradual transition from wakefulness to sleep. Embracing
these changes and adopting healthy bedtime habits can promote better sleep
quality and overall well-being.

Q3 What are some of the most mind-blowing facts?

Q   Do you know The World’s First Vegetarian City???

KR   Partly conveyed; Jains do not take food if the provider is
a non-vegetarian. Thank you for reading the JAIN and revising the Google
PALITAN is a historical city for the Jains; law of stalling of the non veg
stalls etc is so a later revision.

Palitana, located in the Bhavnagar district of Gujarat, India, holds
immense significance in Jain history and culture. It is renowned as one of
the holiest pilgrimage sites for Jains worldwide. Here's a glimpse into
Palitana's importance in Jainism:

Mount Shatrunjaya: Palitana is home to Mount Shatrunjaya, a sacred hill
where thousands of Jain temples are located. These temples are spread
across nine peaks of the hill and are collectively known as the Shatrunjaya
temples. The construction of these temples began in the 11th century and
continued over many centuries, making it one of the most important Jain
pilgrimage sites.

Re: [iyer123] நமக்கு தெரிந்த விஷயமே..

ஏனெனில், அவர்கள் உங்களை வேலை வெட்டி இல்லாதவன் என்று நினைப்பார்கள்.
அதுவுமின்றி குறள் என்ன சொல்கிறது, "பிறன் மனை நோக்கா பேராண்மை" என்றால்
"அடுத்த வீட்டைப் பார்க்காமல் இருக்கவும்" என்றும் சொல்லலாம் . ஆனால் ஒரு கஷ்ட
உண்டு. மயக்கமாக நீங்கள் இருக்கும் பொழுது ஆண்ட டாக்டர் , உங்களை,"இவர் என்ன
குரூப் எனக் கேட்கும் போது தான், அடடா இதெல்லாம் தெரிந்து கொள்ளவில்லையே? என்ன
நெயிபௌர்  நாம் எனது தோன்றும்; பரவாயில்லை; அவன் இருந்தால் என்ன செத்தால்
என்ன. நாம் இருக்கிறோம் என்பதே நன்று.
KR IRS  31524

On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 04:35, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Very good ethics sir
> Gopalakrishnan
>
>
> On Friday, 31 May, 2024 at 01:20:03 pm IST, SRIRAMAJAYAM <
> vabal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> 1. ஒருவர் வீட்டுக்குள் நுழைந்தவுடன் .. இது சொந்த வீடா ..வாடகை வீடா … வாடகை
> எவ்வளவு…. என்று கேட்க ஆரம்பிக்காதீர்கள் .. (அவர்கள் எந்த வீட்டில்
> இருந்தாலும் மேற்கொண்டு நீங்கள் ஒன்றும் செய்யப் போவதில்லை)
>
> 2 . நீங்க முதலியாரா .. கவுண்டரா .கிரிஸ்டியனா என்று கேட்டு
> சங்கடப்படுத்தாதீர்கள் . (அவர்கள் எந்த சாதியாக இருந்தாலும் மேற்கொண்டு
> நீங்கள் ஒன்றும் செய்யப் போவதில்லை)
>
> 3.வீட்டிற்குள் நுழைந்தவுடன் அவர்களின் பொருளாதார நிலையை அறிய கண்களாலே
> துழவாதீர்கள்.
>
> 4.வீட்டிற்கு வந்தவர்களிடம் .. காபியா டீயா என்றால் .. கொடுங்கள் என்று
> அன்போடு கேட்டு அருந்துங்கள்.
>
> அல்லது மோரோ ,குளிர்பானமோ ..கொடுப்பதை மனம் குளிர்ந்து அருந்துங்கள். இப்பதான
> காபி சாப்பிட்டு வந்தேன் .. என்று அலட்சியப் படுத்தாதீர்கள்.
>
> 5.வீட்டிற்கு அழைப்பிதழ் கொடுக்க வரும்போது .. அவர்களிடமே பேர் கேட்டு
> எழுதாதீர்கள்.
>
> 6.வீட்டிற்கு வந்தவர் வருகிறேன் என்று சொல்லி வெளியில் சென்று தெருவில்
> நடக்கும் வரை /வாகனம் எடுக்கும் வரை அவர்களிடம் கண்களால் உரையாடுங்கள். மாறாக
> உடனே கேட்டையோ ,கதவையோ சாத்தாதீர்கள்.
>
> 7.ஏன் உங்க மனைவி வேலைக்கு போறாங்க … ? அல்லது ஏன் வேலைக்கு போகல.. என்று
> ஆராய்ச்சி கேள்வி கேட்காதீர்கள்.
>
> 8.சாப்பாட்டு நேரத்துல வந்தவங்க கிட்ட “சாப்பிடுறீங்களா” என்று கேட்கும்
> வீட்டில் பச்சை தண்ணி கூட குடிக்காதீர்கள்.மாறாக “சாப்பிடுங்க “என்று சொல்ற
> வீட்டில நிச்சயமாக சாப்பிடுங்க.
>
> 9.பையன் அல்லது பொண்ணு என்ன பண்றா‌.. என்று கேட்காதீர்கள்… வேண்டுமென்றால்
> உங்கள் பையன் அல்லது பொண்ணு என்ன படிக்கிறார்கள் /எங்கு வேலை செய்கிறார்கள் ..
> என்று சொல்லுங்கள்..
>
> கேட்பவருக்கு பிடித்திருந்தால் அவர் சொல்லட்டும்..அவரை வற்புறுத்தாதீர்கள்.
>
> 10.friendly ஆ பேசறேன் ,உரிமையில பேசறன்னு …பொதுவுல …அவங்களுக்கோ அவங்க
> பிள்ளைகளுக்கோ advice ஆரம்பிக்காதீர்கள்.
>
> 11.உங்களுக்கு என்ன குறைச்சல்.. இரண்டு பேரு சம்பளம் … பையன் கை நிறைய
> சம்பாரிக்கிறான் …இப்படி சொல்றவங்க கிட்ட../நினைக்கறவங்க கிட்ட தள்ளியே
> நில்லுங்க.
>
> 12.நீங்க எங்கெல்லாம் plot/flat வாங்கி வச்சிருக்கீங்களோ‌‌…. வந்த இடத்தில்
> பட்டியலிடாதீர்கள்.. இது அவருக்கு அவர் மனைவிமுன் மிகுந்த தர்ம சங்கடத்தை
> உருவாக்கும்.
>
> 13.வந்த இடத்தில் உங்கள் புத்திசாலித்தனத்தை காட்டாதீர்கள்.. மாறாக அன்பை
> காட்டுங்கள்.
>
> 14. வீட்டிற்கு வருபவர்களிடம் பிள்ளைகளை அறிமுகப்படுத்தி அவர் எந்த வகையில்
> உறவினர் அல்லது நண்பர் … என்று… பிள்ளைகள் மூலம் உங்கள் உறவுகளுக்கு பாலம்
> அமையுங்கள்.
>
> 15. வீட்டிற்கு வந்தவர்களிடம் கணவனை அல்லது மனைவியை விட்டு கொடுக்காமல்
> பேசுகிறேன் என்று தற்பெருமை, தம்பட்டம் அடிக்காதீர்கள்.. அல்லது.. வீட்டிற்கு
> வந்தவர்களிடம் தனது மனைவி/கணவன் பற்றியோ விளையாட்டு க்கு சொல்கிறேன் என்று
> கிண்டலடிக்காதீர்கள்
>
> 蘿狼來樂蘿拉狼來
>
> 
>
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Re: [iyer123] Re: From an elderly person

Male : { Mayakama  kalakama Manadhilae  kuzhapamaa Vaazhkaiyil  nadukamaa }
(2)

are you confused? tremble over life?

Male : { Vaazhkai Endral  aayiram irukumVaasal dhorumVedhanai irukum } (2)

life has 1000 meanins and every door has a story

Male : Vandha Thunbam yedhu Vendralum{ Vaadi nindral Oduvadhillai } (2)

whatsoever your troubles are, when you slump it will not run away

Male : Yedhaiyum Thaangum idhayam Irundhaal irudhi Varaikum amaidhi irukum

the strong heart to bear, shall keep you in peaece till the end

துடுப்புகள் இல்லா படகு paddles less boat

அலைகள் அழைக்கின்ற திசை எல்லாம் போகும் will travel in all directions
தீமையை தடுப்பவர் இல்லா வாழ்வும் one who cannot void off the bad
அந்த படகின் நிலை போலே ஆகும் will be like that of the boat
அந்த படகின் நிலை போலே ஆகும்

வாழ்க்கை எனும் ஓடம் life boat
வழங்குகின்ற பாடம்presenting the lesson
மானிடரின் மனதினிலேin the minds of the human
மறக்க ஒண்ணா வேதம்unforgettable Veda
வாழ்க்கை எனும் ஓடம்

kanavu kaaNum vaazhkai yaavum  kalaindu pOgum kolangaL  kanavu kaaNum
vaazhkai yaavum  kalaindu pOgum kolangaL

thuduppu kooda baaram endru   karaiyai thaedum OdangaL

கனவு காணும் வாழ்க்கை யாவும்  கலைந்து போகும் கோலங்கள்
துடுப்புக்கூட பாரம் என்று  கரையைத் தேடும் ஓடங்கள்

The life itself is a dream where boats are on the shore and not in water
because they feel even the oars are heavy to bear

K Rajaram  IRS   31524

On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 02:55, SRIRAMAJAYAM  wrote:

> எல்லா விரல்களும் ஒரே அளவு இல்லை... என்றாலும் அவை ஒரே மாதிரி  மடிவது எப்படி❓
> மருத்துவத்தால் ஆயுள் நீட்டிப்பு இருந்தாலும் ஆரோக்கியம் இறங்கு முகமே.
> நீண்ட ஆயுள் ஆசிர்வாதமா?
> புரியவில்லை.
> 
>
> On Fri, 31 May, 2024, 12:52 pm 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Sirs,
>>
>> As Mr Sekar wrote, if he had saved, he would have gone to paid old age
>> home. There is no point in blaming children or finding one superior to
>> another. *All children will have positives along with negatives. All
>> fingers are similar, but all fingers together only can make a
>> fist(protection to father).*
>>
>> *Gopalakrishnan*
>>
>> If he would have been wealthy the lamenting would not have been there.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 31 May, 2024 at 11:03:03 am IST, N Sekar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I understand rom the write up he has nothing to give except his
>> Blessings. Perhaps he feels living with just the last son (who is not that
>> well off, as per the write up) will be burden to them - the couple.
>>
>> Another point Sir, living with just the last son permanently *may* cause
>> frictions in the long run (or may not).
>>
>> The lesson one has to learn is
>>
>> Save enough for your retirement; put yourself first - it is not selfish.
>>
>> There is a saying in Tamizh
>> "Thankku minjithan Dhanamum Dharmamum" meaning take care of your self
>> first, before you part with your money.
>>
>> Had he saved (assuming he could have) he could have a lived a comfortable
>> life in the Sr Citizens Home and that's why they are so popular. of course,
>> one must choose it also carefully.
>>
>> *These stories or write ups, serve as a reminder to the readers to learn
>> the right lessons.*
>>
>> Another Tamizh film song comes to mind "Panam Irundal Podumata Ulakile,
>> Pasam Enna Nesam Enna Manadhile"
>>
>> meaning, in essence, Money is everything, don't depend on love and
>> affection. There may be exceptions though.
>>
>> We live in Kali Kalam Sir.
>>
>> As I wrote previously, how many who blame their children had stayed with
>> their parents?
>>
>> N Sekar
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 07:00:08 AM GMT+4, Rangarajan T.N.C. <
>> tncrangara...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why doesn't he live with the last son and give everything he has to them
>>
>> On Thursday, 30 May, 2024 at 06:34:33 pm IST, N Sekar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Very nice.
>>
>> Life is generally not good for the oldies without means, but for the
>> Widowers it is worse.
>> Widows manage somehow, but the men generally can't.
>>
>> Last line was superb.
>>
>> God bless the likes of the last DIL.
>>
>> N Sekar
>>
>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
>> 
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 4:27 PM, Rama
>>  wrote:
>> As received..
>>
>> "*எனக்கு 77 வயது!*
>> *⭕மனைவியை இழந்து பத்து வருடங்களாகிறது...*
>>
>> *⭕இருக்கின்ற நான்கு மகன்களில்*
>> *ஒவ்வொரு மாதமும் ஒரு மகனிடம்!*
>> *இருப்பது மூன்றாவது மகனிடம்!*
>>
>> *⭕இன்னும் நான்கு நாட்கள் இருக்கிறது*
>> *கடைசி மகனிடம் செல்ல!*
>> *இப்போதிருந்தே வயதான விரல்களை கொண்டு*
>> *எண்ணிக்கொண்டு இருக்கிறேன்*
>> *கடைசி மருமகளிடம் செல்லும் நாட்களுக்காக!*
>>
>> *⭕போன தீபாவளிக்கு இரண்டாவது மருமகள்*
>> *வாங்கித்தந்த* *வெள்ளை வேட்டி*
>> *பழுப்பு நிறமாகி* *பலநாட்கள் ஆகிவிட்டது!*
>>
>> *⭕முதல் மகன் வாங்கித்தந்த கண்ணாடி*
>> *உடைந்து மூன்று வாரங்கள் ஆகிவிட்டது,*
>>
>> *⭕இப்போது இருக்கும்

Re: RSVP

SRVP yes sir (SR) KR IRS

On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 02:28, Srinivasan Sridharan <
sridhsriniva...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Srinivasan Sridharan 
> *Date:* May 31, 2024 at 12:12:24 AM PDT
> *To:* venkat giri 
> *Subject:* *Re: RSVP*
>
> Objection milord !
>   I object the Title used here! Sambar is senior to Rasam. In this
> “annamaya” dinner world . Sambar comes first for greeting the eater. Rasam
> is invarioubly served only after Sambar has cleared the arena!  Please
> change the title from RSVP to SRVP!
> Sridharan.
>
>
>
> On May 30, 2024, at 11:48 PM, venkat giri  wrote:
>
>
> RSVP...Rasam ,Sambar,Vadai 
>
>
> *The battle for Sambar or Rasam*
>
>
> *Resplendent Rasam or Super Sambar*
>
>
> 1. Sambar and Rasam, like Vasishtar & Vishwamithrar, are kulagurus of
> *Tamil lunches & dinners.*
>
> 2. Both have an army of admirers & at times one is substituted for the
> other.
>
> 3. In marriage lunches, they go together & in our homes, for the day to
> day lunches & dinners, we either prepare sambar or rasam but less
> frequently both.
>
> 4. For Sambar in Palakkadu, they use ground & grated coconut, whereas in
> Tamil Nadu, sambar powder is preferred.
>
> 5. Availability of coconuts & pulses determine this & one is not
> necessarily superior to the other.
>
> 6. However, for marriage lunches, arachuvitta sambar (sambar with grated
> coconut) alone is preferred.
>
> 7. Sambar using sambar powder is looked down upon as if it plays for the B
> team.
>
> 8. Rasam does not entertain such distinction. Rasam powder is universally
> used.
>
> 9.Sambar has to face stiff competition from Morkhuzhambu, Vettakhuzhambhu,
> ghothsu & pitlaw & it either over shadows or is overshadowed by them.
>
> 10. Rasam fears no such alien threats save the competition from the Rasam
> species itself.
>
> 11. Like Manchester United & Real Madrid Football Clubs followers, the
> Rasam protagonists are categorised into two fiercely competing groups:
>
> (a).those who take their Rasam with the sediments (kalakkivitta Rasam
>
> (b) those who would prefer the sediments to remain in the container
> (thelivu rasam).
>
> 12. Orderliness demands that thelivu rasam group should have its serving
> first so that kalakkivitta Rasam group can have the rest to its heart' s
> content.
>
> 13.Lime Rasam dispenses with tamarind & is healthy.
>
> 14. However, Pepper Rasam, Jeera Rasam & Kandanthippili Rasam have
> therapeutic value & hence are prepared as medicinal prescriptions.
>
> 15.They are taken to come out of certain ailments. Pepper Rasam is
> prepared for those whose temperature level is above 100 degrees.
>
> 16.Mysore Rasam has all ingredients & it appeals to our palate.
>
> 17. If pure Rasam is like a Semmangudi Swaraprasthara subtleties, Mysore
> Rasam, like modern day Dire Strait's "Sultans of Swing", stirring the
> youngsters soul.
>
> 18. For a few garlic Rasam is the greatest.
>
> 19. However, it has equally powerful enemies, though garlic wins bidding
> approvals from doctors.
>
> 20. Sambar cannot end our meals. It is not a finisher like Dhoni.
>
> 21. Invariably it has to be followed by Rasam or Thair Saadam.
>
> 22.Rasam is independent & can stand apart, alone.
>
> 23. When someone is not well, Rasam alone is prescribed, a privilege that
> sambar looks at with envy.
>
> 24. Vadai when soaked in sambar is known as Sambar vadai, where the
> prominence is given to the vadai.
>
> 25. However, when vadai is soaked in Rasam which is known as Rasa vadai,
> Rasam steals the show.
>
> 26. One can drink cupfuls of Rasam. If one tries to drink sambar in a cup,
> his sanity would be tested - another snub again to sambar.
>
> 27. As barbeque is connected with a grill & rotis and nans are linked to
> tandoors, sambar boiled in a kalchatti assumes a significant flavour.
>
> 28. Rasam boiled in Kumbhakonam made eeyachombu, lords over our lunches
> and dinners.
>
> 29. When we take rice, quantity of Rasam dominates. In sambar rice, high
> quantity of sambar is frowned upon.
>
> 30. In addition to its intrinsic merits, Rasam is also enjoyed for one
> more reason.
>
> 31. In marriage lunches, Rasam is followed by payasam.
>
>
> 32. If Rasam comes, can Payasam be far behind, a poet Shelley may have
> sung today.
>
> 33. Milagu Rasam in Western garbs has become mulaguthanni soup in star
> hotels.
>
> 34. In fact, Rasam is a precursor to many modern day soups.
>
> 35. Software techies from South India would enjoy their cupfuls of in
> chosen Rasam even while embarking upon their coding endeavours.
>
>
> Regards
>
> V.Sridharan
>
> Trichy
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Re: [iyer123] Re: From an unknown source...

Absolutely, the little things often carry immense significance. They can be
gestures, moments, or details that may seem insignificant at first glance,
but they hold the power to brighten someone's day, strengthen
relationships, or bring joy and comfort in unexpected ways. Whether it's a
kind word, a thoughtful act, or simply being present, these small gestures
can have a big impact on our lives and the lives of those around us.
  "The Gift of the Magi" by O. Henry. In this classic tale, a young couple,
Jim and Della, who are struggling financially, each sacrifice their most
prized possession to buy a Christmas gift for the other. Della sells her
long, beautiful hair to buy Jim a chain for his pocket watch, while Jim
sells his watch to buy Della a set of combs for her hair. The story
beautifully illustrates the selflessness and love between the couple, as
they realize that their sacrifices, though seemingly in vain, were made out
of deep affection for each other.
When there is no money and only limited slices of bread it means the
otherside is respected not by mere words but through sincere purpose of
action KR IRS 31524.

On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 02:16, 'venkat giri' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Yes you are correct sir
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer
> 
>
> On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 12:44 pm, SRIRAMAJAYAM
>  wrote:
> தீயினால்
> சுட்ட புண்
> உள்ளாறும்
> ஆறாதே
> நாவினால்
> சுட்ட
> வடு...
> 
>
> On Fri, 31 May, 2024, 11:07 am Rama,  wrote:
>
> யாரோ எழுதியது
>
> நான் சிறுவனாக இருக்கும் போது ...
>
> ஒரு நாள்
> என் அம்மா  இரவு
> சிற்றுண்டி செய்யத் தொடங்கினார்...
>
> என் அம்மாவும்
> எங்கள் குடும்பத்தை சமாளிக்க
> வேலைக்கு செல்வது வழக்கம்...
>
> சமைத்த பின்
> கருகிய ரொட்டி ஒன்றை
> என் கண் முன் , என் அப்பாவுக்கு
> பரிமாறினார் என் அம்மா .
>
> என் அப்பாவிடம்
> கருகிய ரொட்டியை பரிமாறியதற்கு
> வருத்தம் தெரிவித்தார் என் அம்மா...
>
> ஆனால்
> அதற்கு என் அப்பாவோ ..
> "எனக்கு கருகிய ரொட்டிதான் ரொம்ப பிடிக்கும்" என்று பதில் சொன்னதை
> என்னால் இன்றும் மறக்க முடியாது 
>
> சாப்பிட்டு முடித்த
> சற்று நேரத்துக்குப் பின்...
> நான் மெல்ல அப்பாவின் அருகில் சென்று அவரிடம் தயக்கத்துடன் கேட்டேன் :
>
> " அப்பா ... உங்களுக்கு உண்மையாகவே கருகிய ரொட்டி ரொம்பப் பிடிக்குமா..?"
>
> சற்று நேரம்
> அமைதியாக இருந்த
> என் அப்பா , சொன்னார்
> " மகனே...உங்க அம்மா தினமும் வேலைக்கும் சென்று , நமக்கும் பணி செய்கிறார் .
> களைத்தும்  இருப்பார் .
>
> ஒரு
> கருகிய ரொட்டி
> யாரையும் காயப்படுத்தப் போவதில்லை ... ஆனால்
> கடும் வார்த்தைகள்
> கண்டிப்பாக காயப்படுத்தும்...
>
> நான் ஒன்றும்
> சிறந்த மனிதன் அல்ல ...
> ஆனால்
> அதற்கு முயற்சிக்கிறேன்...
>
> ஆம்..
> “ கருகிய ரொட்டி யாரையும்
> காயப்படுத்தப் போவதில்லை ...
> ஆனால்
> கடும் வார்த்தைகள்
> கண்டிப்பாக காயப்படுத்தும்”
>
> இந்த தத்துவத்தை எண்ணியபடியே
> இரவு சாப்பிட அமர்ந்தபோது ...
>
> பரிமாறப்பட்ட உணவு
> கொஞ்சம் ஆறித்தான் போய் இருந்தது...
> ஆனால்
> என் உணர்வுகள்
> ரொம்பவுமே மாறிப் போய் இருந்தது..
>
> Cheers
> Rama.
>
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Re: [iyer123] Re: A morning message

1 Patience @ Pause 2 all scriptures and mothers do act but some say written
by shudras and unreliable? Where there exists boldness there are the
reflections of all moralities.  KR IRS 31524

On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 02:05, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr Sekar,
> Last one about patience is hilarious.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Friday, 31 May, 2024 at 11:42:26 am IST, N Sekar 
> wrote:
>
>
> Nice. Thanks.
>
> There are a few Tamizh sayings which convey the same meaning (in essence,
> and not literal translation)
>
> "Dhanathile Siranda Dhanam Nidhanam"
> meaning
>
> Be patient, Don't rush.
>
> "Padhariya Kariyam Sidharum"
>
> meaning Haste results in Waste.
>
> "Porumai Bhoomiyinum Peridhu"
>
> meaning
>
> Patience is greater than this world - Practice patience, it is above all
> else.
>
> We had our parents (mothers) teach us all these things apart from what we
> studied in school. I am sure all our mothers, like mine did, went over
> meticulously what we studied in school and tested our understanding and
> amplified, explained what was taught at school in their own language so it
> was drilled into our minds.
>
> I am not sure whether the present curriculum teaches moral lessons like
>
> Athichudi
>
> Thirukkural
>
> Poems (Kamba Ramayanam, Naladiyar, Thirumular and others) containing
> valuable lessons
>
>
> *Secular education teaches us to earn a living but the moral lessons teach
> us how to live our lives. *As my Guru used to say "Living is an Art and
> you have learn that Art" which is through reading our Scriptures,
> Ithihasas, Puranas and the likes.
>
> We just stop with the story in the Ramayana but don; observe 'that Rama
> tells his brother Lakshmana to practice patience (pause, pause to think -
> as in the story) when the latter gets worked up on hearing Dasaratha's
> orders banishing Rama to the forest.
>
> These nuances were explained by our parents, teachers and Upanyasakars but
> those days are gone.
>
> N Sekar
>
>
> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 09:45:51 AM GMT+4, Rama 
> wrote:
>
>
>  .. 珞
> “ Practice the pause. Pause before judging. Pause before accusing. Pause
> whenever you’re about to react harshly and you’ll avoid doing and saying
> things you’ll later regret. “…..Lori Deschene礪
>
> Cheers
> Rama
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Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd - RSVP new definition

REAL, SUPERB, VALUABLE ,PRAISEWORTHY KR IRS 31524

On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 02:01, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty <
thatha_patty@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Great Mr Sekar
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Friday, 31 May, 2024 at 11:54:19 am IST, 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers <
> keralaiy...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> *Did you know*?
>
> *In South Indian wedding cards, RSVP stands for Rasam, Sambhar, Vada,
> Payasam.*
>
> *In Bengali wedding cards, RSVP stands for Rasogolla, Sandesh and Varanasi
> Pan*
>
> *In Gujarati wedding cards, RSVP stands for Rotli, Shaak, Vaal, Patra.*
>
> *In Punjabi wedding cards, RSVP stands for Rum, Scotch, Vodka, Patiala
> Peg*弄
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Fwd: [iyer123] Change Mindset

மனதிலுறுதி வேண்டும், வாக்கினி லேயினிமை வேண்டும்; நினைவு நல்லது வேண்டும்,
நெருங்கின பொருள் கைப்பட வேண்டும்; கனவு மெய்ப்பட வேண்டும், கைவசமாவது
விரைவில் வேண்டும்; தனமும் இன்பமும் வேண்டும், தரணியிலே பெருமை வேண்டும். கண்
திறந்திட வேண்டும், காரியத்தி லுறுதி
 வேண்டும்;
பெண் விடுதலை வேண்டும், பெரிய கடவுள் காக்க வேண்டும், மண் பயனுற வேண்டும்,
வானகமிங்கு தென்பட வேண்டும்; உண்மை நின்றிட வேண்டும். ஓம் ஓம் ஓம் ஓம்
To be contented, to be restless; The memory should be good, the close
object should be abandoned; The dream must come true, at least soon; I want
pleasure and pleasure, I want pride in the world. Eyes should be opened,
things should be done; Women should be liberated, the great God should
protect, the soil should benefit, the sky should appear; The truth must
stand. OMG OMG OMG  KR IRS subramanya Bharathi

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