date:20160115

I made a version that uses javascript for both packing and unpacking. This 
means that you have to have the plugin in a wiki in order to create a 
bundle which I don't like, but I couldn't find any way to get around the 
problems from trying to copy too bundle together too many tiddlers using 
just wikitext. Here is the new demo 
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[tw] [TW5] New Plugin: tobibeer/plantuml 0.5.0

As hinted at yesterday 

 to Richard,
I created a new plugin-wrapper for plantuml .

Here is version 0.5.0 
 of 
tobibeer/plantuml :

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml

It allows to specify *plantuml* markup in a tiddler
either via wikitext *[[plantuml[]]] 
* or the 
*<$plantuml/> 
* widget
and retrieve a given representation from plantuml.com.

Not sure if anyone wants / needs it,
I could also create some new content type for tiddlers that are
by default rendered as some *image/plantuml*.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

2016-01-15 Thread Mat

@Jed - great developments.

Just curious; why is it less desirable that your creation is itself a
plugin? I mean, it is still something that the user must install into their
TW to use?

I hope it is ok for me to ask without being rude; Is json included in the
bit about "not wanting to get into complex parsing rules yet"? I'm guessing
it is, right? I was thinking it might not be because it seems to me that
the big job in separating the fields is already done in Tiddler Bundles and
adding json would merely be a matter of inserting curly braces and commas
arond them? (*Whaddyamean I've never tried this myself? How can you
possibly tell!*) I hope it is not rude to ask, I don't mean to push
anything if json in deed is in deed "complex parsing rules".

The separator: I see the same problem in letting the user define the
separator as it being predefined. Actually even greater risk if user
defines it. How about using some exotic, but universally accepted, unicode
characters like I believe these are;  (squared new) or  (newspaper ...
looks like a tiddler, doesn't it). It is not likely that anyone uses, say,
ten of those in a row and it is easy to locate them visually in a tiddler
bundle. BTW, if possible, it would be nice with a double line break before
and after the separator line for even visually clearer separation.

Detail: In your demo, in the pre-made test example you include [[What is
this?]][[New Tiddler 2]]. I think it was better with Bob etc that are
shorter and clearer.

I'm happy you like my interface suggestions. Since you do, I'll clean up
some bits that may not be optimally defined or implemented.

Thank you so much for this Jed!

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Two plugin requests

Hi David,

Popups that come up when hovering over internal links.


After some brainstorming I created tobibeer/preview 
 as announced here 
.

Best wishes,

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[tw] New Plugin: tobibeer/preview

Hi everyone,

After David's request here 
 I did 
some tests and ended up creating
a new plugin called tobibeer/preview 
 now released as version 
0.5.2 :

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview

The plugin $:/plugins/tobibeer/preview 
 
enhances 
the core LinkWidget 

to display a preview of tiddlers when hovering an internal link.

   - link preview popups can even be nested a few levels
   - you can define a *delay* or keyboard modifier *keys* in the 
   configuration 
  - or exclude elements cia css *classes* or titles using an *exclude*
   filter
  - and make preview popups "sticky" using the class tc-popup-keep
   - design a custom template 
    or use custom 
   styles  via css

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Two plugin requests

Hi Eric,
 

> I guess you missed this one:
> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#PopupPreviewPlugin
>

Indeed have, mhhh. :|

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: Two plugin requests

Hi Dave,
 

> I knew you could do it, Tobias! :-)
>
> This adds value to my life. Very nice. Thank you!
>

Happy to see you like it. :-)

I've been wanting this for TW2 for a long time.
Actually seeing it at work makes me think
that it can be quite useful as it allows you to
stay where you are while looking at another place;
a simple, but quite powerful paradigm shift.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: Two plugin requests

2016-01-15 Thread Eric Shulman

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 8:51:53 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>  
>
>> I knew you could do it, Tobias! :-)
>>
>> This adds value to my life. Very nice. Thank you!
>>
>
> Happy to see you like it. :-)
>
> I've been wanting this for TW2 for a long time.
>

I guess you missed this one:

   http://www.tiddlytools.com/#PopupPreviewPlugin

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Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

2016-01-15 Thread Alex S. Garcia

On Friday, January 15, 2016 08:42:59 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
> Are you using tiddlyfox?

Nope.

> If not, how are you saving?

Just the 'normal' way, ie. clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools' in the 
sidepanel, 
while the file is loaded from /var/www/html.

> If you launch your browser as root, then can you save?

Ah, good question. Hadn't tried that. Just did now. And, interestingly enough, 
it does 
NOT work as root either. I get the same error as with my user, ie:

"It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
- your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari and 
Opera all 
work if properly configured)
- the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
- the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed"

> I'm guessing that your plugin can't/won't navigate those directories
> owned by root.

But I'm *not* using a plugin in this specific case, only TW's internal 
functionality to 
'save changes'.

OTOH, I *do* use a plugin when I work remotely, and THAT works just fine!? 
Weird, isn't 
it? The plugin can get access but not the file itself...

What user would the system see trying to save the file locally? Would it be 
coming 
from my user, from apache, or something else? Makes me wonder.

And what about the plugin, for that matter, shouldn't my computer see it coming 
from 
the same user?? If so, saving should not be possible via the plugin either... 
unless it's 
not a permissions issue, but then what? *baffled*

> As a workaround, can you edit on your server as
> http://localhost...tw.html ?

Well, yes, it would then just use that TW plugin in that case and I'd have to 
click "save 
to web". Saving from my laptop while connecting remotely also works fine for 
the 
same reason, since it would also be using the plugin.

It just puzzles me to no end that I can't do a normal local save... that just 
doesn't 
sound right :-o

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[tw] Re: Two plugin requests

2016-01-15 Thread David Gifford

Woo hoo!!!

I knew you could do it, Tobias! :-)

This adds value to my life. Very nice. Thank you!

Dave

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:22:40 AM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Popups that come up when hovering over internal links.
>
>
> After some brainstorming I created tobibeer/preview 
>  as announced here 
> .
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias. 
>

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[tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

2016-01-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Are you using tiddlyfox? If not, how are you saving?

If you launch your browser as root, then can you save?

I'm guessing that your plugin can't/won't navigate those directories owned 
by root. 

As a workaround, can you edit on your server as http://localhost...tw.html ?

Mark

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:26:52 PM UTC-8, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> I recently had to upgrade my entire system and now I can no longer save 
> changes when I edit a tiddly file.
>
>  
>
> It's very odd, because I installed a plugin that allows me to work on my 
> files remotely, and when using that I can save data just fine. But doing it 
> from localhost fails with the following message:
>
>  
>
> 
>
> It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
>
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and Opera all work if properly configured)
>
> - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
>
> - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed
>
> 
>
>  
>
> I've tried with different browsers (Firefox, Vivaldi and Opera) but they 
> all return that same error.
>
>  
>
> And it's not the pathname (besides, it's the same as before, and it worked 
> fine in the past).
>
>  
>
> And I haven't moved any of the files around, so it's not that third thing 
> either.
>
>  
>
> I'm suspecting perhaps a permission issue, but I've tried everything I 
> could think of to no avail.
>
>  
>
> My tiddly folder is owned by my user (likewise for the group) and the 
> permissions are set to drwxrwxr-x.
>
>  
>
> The contents of that folder are also owned by my user, with permissions 
> set to -rwxrwxr-x.
>
>  
>
> /var/www & /var/www/html are both owned by root:root (drwxr-xr-x).
>
>  
>
> What am I missing here?
>
>  
>
> On a side note, I made apache a member of my user's group so that it could 
> have access.
>
>  
>
> Any thoughts/leads would be appreciated!
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] ActionListopsWidget questions

Hi Andrew

A quick look through the code suggests that it may be possible to implement 
this in the form of a widget -- perhaps an event listener, triggering a 
widget message that passes the selected text to a listener in an enclosing 
 widget (which then deals with the contents of the message.)

regards

On Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:44:07 UTC+2, Andrew wrote:
>
> I found http://www.javascriptkit.com/javatutors/copytoclipboard.shtml but 
> it is going to be another couple months before I pick it apart. I'm 
> thinking of a widget to return selected as the marked param. Something like 
> <>.
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[tw] [TW5] Commenting Plugin (Google+/DISQUS)

2016-01-15 Thread Chester Cho

Hi All,

I wanted to try to embed some commenting features to my TW5, so far I have
been successfully implement Google+ comment on tiddler basis, however,
DISQUS is extremely tricky to implement, so far I have come cross 2
solution but they are not so perfect solution, do you guys have any insight
that can share to improve this solutions? Thanks.

https://github.com/sukima/tw5-disqus-plugin
This one look decent, but rather tricky since the README document really
isn't readable...I did manage to embed a DISQUS on sidebar with this
plugin, but not on tiddler basis.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/msDS-4x8Qms
A workaround DISQUS solution, it works but I want to see if it can be
improved.

http://www.chestercho.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FViewTemplate%2Fcomment-block
This one is my tiddlywiki5, where the comment-block is the ViewTemplate I
embed in every post. It is possible thanks to all the greatly plugins by
Tobias (plugin: enable.js, hash, , etc)

Chester

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Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

2016-01-15 Thread Alex S. Garcia

> > - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer,
> > Safari and Opera all work if properly configured)
> 
> Note the phrase "if properly configured".  All major browsers have
> blocked javascript from performing direct file I/O with the local
> filesystem. TiddlyFox is a browser plugin for Firefox that restores
> access to the privileged file I/O functions.  If you are using Firefox
> without TiddlyFox, then it is *not* "properly configured" for file
> saving.  Install the TiddlyFox browser plugin, and try again.

Wow. That worked. Awesome.

Weird, though, as I'd never had to use TiddyFox before and had never ran into 
this 
problem. Then again, truth be told, I was using some really old versions of 
everything, 
so perhaps this security feature had not been implemented yet...

In any case, thank you all for your help! Much appreciated.



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Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

2016-01-15 Thread Eric Shulman

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:28:54 AM UTC-8, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 08:42:59 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
>
> > Are you using tiddlyfox?
>
> Nope.
>
>  
>
> > If not, how are you saving?
>
> Just the 'normal' way, ie. clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools' in 
> the sidepanel, while the file is loaded from /var/www/html.
>
>  
>
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and Opera all work if properly configured)
>

Note the phrase "if properly configured".  All major browsers have blocked 
javascript from performing direct file I/O with the local filesystem. 
 TiddlyFox is a browser plugin for Firefox that restores access to the 
privileged file I/O functions.  If you are using Firefox without TiddlyFox, 
then it is *not* "properly configured" for file saving.  Install the 
TiddlyFox browser plugin, and try again.

enjoy,
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[tw] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: tobibeer/preview 0.5.2

2016-01-15 Thread David Gifford

Now if there were a way to create "static bundles" - where you create a 
static of one tiddler, but any tiddlers that it references are also 
available. So that hovering over a link in a static opened the popup to the 
bundled tiddler, or clicking on a tab opens it up...

Dave

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:20:10 AM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> After David's request here 
>  I 
> did some tests and ended up creating
> a new plugin called tobibeer/preview 
>  now released as version 
> 0.5.2 :
>
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview
>
> The plugin $:/plugins/tobibeer/preview 
> 
>  enhances 
> the core LinkWidget 
>
> to display a preview of tiddlers when hovering an internal link.
>
>- link preview popups can even be nested a few levels
>- you can define a *delay* or keyboard modifier *keys* in the 
>configuration 
>
>   - or exclude elements cia css *classes* or titles using an *exclude*
>filter
>   - and make preview popups "sticky" using the class tc-popup-keep
>- design a custom template 
> or use 
>custom styles  via 
>css
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

2016-01-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Doesn't the "normal" way force you to pick a path and save every time? Your 
firefox path has to be read/writeable. If you restored your old FF 
profiles, it might be pointing to a directory that you can't currently 
write to. What is your default download path in FF? If it's not under 
/var... then you have to set it.

Why not try tiddlyfox and see what happens?

Still guessing, but I think when the browser runs it runs with reduced 
rights as a security measure (even if you launch as root).  

After launching with sudo, and using ps aux, I see that my firefox is still 
running as my base user. There's probably a more scientific way to force FF 
to use root's rights.
 
Mark

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:28:54 AM UTC-8, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 08:42:59 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
>
> > Are you using tiddlyfox?
>
>  
>
> Nope.
>
>  
>
> > If not, how are you saving?
>
>  
>
> Just the 'normal' way, ie. clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools' in 
> the sidepanel, while the file is loaded from /var/www/html.
>
>  
>
> > If you launch your browser as root, then can you save?
>
>  
>
> Ah, good question. Hadn't tried that. Just did now. And, interestingly 
> enough, it does NOT work as root either. I get the same error as with my 
> user, ie:
>
>  
>
> "It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
>
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and Opera all work if properly configured)
>
> - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
>
> - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed"
>
>  
>
> > I'm guessing that your plugin can't/won't navigate those directories
>
> > owned by root.
>
>  
>
> But I'm *not* using a plugin in this specific case, only TW's internal 
> functionality to 'save changes'.
>
>  
>
> OTOH, I *do* use a plugin when I work remotely, and THAT works just fine!? 
> Weird, isn't it? The plugin can get access but not the file itself...
>
>  
>
> What user would the system see trying to save the file locally? Would it 
> be coming from my user, from apache, or something else? Makes me wonder.
>
>  
>
> And what about the plugin, for that matter, shouldn't my computer see it 
> coming from the same user?? If so, saving should not be possible via the 
> plugin either... unless it's not a permissions issue, but then what? 
> *baffled*
>
>  
>
> > As a workaround, can you edit on your server as
>
> > http://localhost...tw.html ?
>
>  
>
> Well, yes, it would then just use that TW plugin in that case and I'd have 
> to click "save to web". Saving from my laptop while connecting remotely 
> also works fine for the same reason, since it would also be using the 
> plugin.
>
>  
>
> It just puzzles me to no end that I can't do a normal local save... that 
> just doesn't sound right :-o
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
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[tw] Running Bash and Python scripts from within TiddlyWiki

2016-01-15 Thread jimbuffat

Hi,

I am working on the organisation of images that are more or less randomly
distributed over my file system in the moment. What I want is to create a
tiddlywiki (node) that allows tagging and linking the images that will be
placed in a central directory. So far I've written a script that hard
copies the images automatically to the directory in the tiddlywiki and
creates tiddlers out of the exif metadata and other arguments that add to
the tagging. I access the images with the ximg

macro of Tobias Beer that points to a local server. Up to now I have
encountered two problems that are both related to the question if and how
it may be possible to run bash or python scripts in the node version of
tiddlywiki:

1. There is no automated previewing for RAW, NEF, CR2 and other raw file
formats. So now I extract the preview jpgs and store them separately. The
tiddler preview then actually points to these. This is however pretty
vulnerable when any changes take place. And I certainly could make better
use of the data volume...
I imagined that I could extract the preview jpgs dynamically when being
able to run a bash script. The deletion of the created previews doesn't
have to take place inside tiddlywiki, would be nice though.
2. To normalize importing and deleting processes of images, i.e. copying
them to the image directory and creating their tiddlers as well as deleting
tiddler and image simultaniously, I'd like to be able to run the script I
mentioned above inside tiddlywiki by defining the necessary arguments and
clicking for example a button.

Thanks for any replies,

Jim

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Line breaks between consecutive sliders

2016-01-15 Thread Robert Edwards

Thanks Tobias but you're stepping out of my realm of experience. Will need 
to consider this a bit

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> I'd recommend using a
>
> {{classWrapper{
> content
> }}}
>
> and the appropriate styles in your StyleSheet tiddler.
>
> Tobias
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] ActionListopsWidget questions

2016-01-15 Thread infurnoape



Thank you for your suggestion. A Widget sounds like the best direction to go, 
but would it have to be an event listener? Couldn't it just be returned via 
module-type macro and just return it from a macro call and then just use it as 
the marker in an ActionListopWidget entry. I want to try to get away from 
expensive event listeners. I have 20 different events that I want to call using 
buttons on my format toolbar. I think you have helped guide me though. It's 
tough trying to figure out what to do with new stuff when there aren't enough 
examples.


Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5





 Original message 
From: Matabele  
Date: 01/15/2016  11:16 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: TiddlyWiki  
Subject: Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] ActionListopsWidget questions 

Hi Andrew
A quick look through the code suggests that it may be possible to implement 
this in the form of a widget -- perhaps an event listener, triggering a widget 
message that passes the selected text to a listener in an enclosing  widget 
(which then deals with the contents of the message.)
regards

On Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:44:07 UTC+2, Andrew  wrote:

I found http://www.javascriptkit.com/javatutors/copytoclipboard.shtml but it is 
going to be another couple months before I pick it apart. I'm thinking of a 
widget to return selected as the marked param. Something like <>.




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[tw] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: tobibeer/preview 0.5.2

2016-01-15 Thread Jon

Very useful, thanks Tobias.
Jon

On Friday, 15 January 2016 15:20:10 UTC, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> After David's request here 
>  I 
> did some tests and ended up creating
> a new plugin called tobibeer/preview 
>  now released as version 
> 0.5.2 :
>
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview
>
> The plugin $:/plugins/tobibeer/preview 
> 
>  enhances 
> the core LinkWidget 
>
> to display a preview of tiddlers when hovering an internal link.
>
>- link preview popups can even be nested a few levels
>- you can define a *delay* or keyboard modifier *keys* in the 
>configuration 
>
>   - or exclude elements cia css *classes* or titles using an *exclude*
>filter
>   - and make preview popups "sticky" using the class tc-popup-keep
>- design a custom template 
> or use 
>custom styles  via 
>css
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: tobibeer/preview 0.5.2

2016-01-15 Thread Jon

Hi Tobias,

When I changed tc-popup-keep to tc-popup (and saved & re-loaded), the 
behaviour hasn't changed - still need to click away for pop-up to close.
Also, what does the modifier key do?

Great plug-in - I'll be using this a lot!

Thanks
Jon

On Friday, 15 January 2016 19:59:06 UTC, Jon wrote:
>
> Very useful, thanks Tobias.
> Jon
>
> On Friday, 15 January 2016 15:20:10 UTC, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> After David's request here 
>>  I 
>> did some tests and ended up creating
>> a new plugin called tobibeer/preview 
>>  now released as version 
>> 0.5.2 :
>>
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview
>>
>> The plugin $:/plugins/tobibeer/preview 
>> 
>>  enhances 
>> the core LinkWidget 
>>
>> to display a preview of tiddlers when hovering an internal link.
>>
>>- link preview popups can even be nested a few levels
>>- you can define a *delay* or keyboard modifier *keys* in the 
>>configuration 
>>
>>   - or exclude elements cia css *classes* or titles using an 
>>   *exclude* filter
>>   - and make preview popups "sticky" using the class tc-popup-keep
>>- design a custom template 
>> or use 
>>custom styles  via 
>>css
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: tobibeer/preview 0.5.2

2016-01-15 Thread Jon

Hi Tobias,

Noticed that the popup is translucent so if link is within some text, it's 
unreadable.

Regards
Jon

On Friday, 15 January 2016 20:35:40 UTC, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Tobias,
>
> When I changed tc-popup-keep to tc-popup (and saved & re-loaded), the 
> behaviour hasn't changed - still need to click away for pop-up to close.
> Also, what does the modifier key do?
>
> Great plug-in - I'll be using this a lot!
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>
> On Friday, 15 January 2016 19:59:06 UTC, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Very useful, thanks Tobias.
>> Jon
>>
>> On Friday, 15 January 2016 15:20:10 UTC, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> After David's request here 
>>>  I 
>>> did some tests and ended up creating
>>> a new plugin called tobibeer/preview 
>>>  now released as version 
>>> 0.5.2 :
>>>
>>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview
>>>
>>> The plugin $:/plugins/tobibeer/preview 
>>> 
>>>  enhances 
>>> the core LinkWidget 
>>>
>>> to display a preview of tiddlers when hovering an internal link.
>>>
>>>- link preview popups can even be nested a few levels
>>>- you can define a *delay* or keyboard modifier *keys* in the 
>>>configuration 
>>>
>>>   - or exclude elements cia css *classes* or titles using an 
>>>   *exclude* filter
>>>   - and make preview popups "sticky" using the class tc-popup-keep
>>>- design a custom template 
>>> or use 
>>>custom styles  
>>> via 
>>>css
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Tobias.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Commenting Plugin (Google+/DISQUS)

I implemented comments on my tiddlywiki site 
 using hashover, I did 
some DISQUS stuff here  
but I never got it working well, I did an intense debate demo 
 here and I did 
a muut demo here .

muut can be in each tiddler, but the loading is sometimes weird. The only 
one that I got to work well is hashover 
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Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

Okay, that was interesting. Well done Eric for coming up with the solution 
which helped Alex. I'm confused by the answer though, as I use TiddlyWiki 
to save locally from Firefox under Linux myself, and have never had such a 
permissions problem before, and I don't use, nor need, the TiddlyFox plugin.

I'm wondering if this is a TWC issue and it doesn't affect TW5? I noticed 
that Alex kept mentioning *"clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools' in 
the sidepanel"* (emphasis mine), which I assume indicates that Alex is 
using TWC, not TW5, am I right?

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 07:21:53 UTC+13, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> > > - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer,
>
> > > Safari and Opera all work if properly configured)
>
> > 
>
> > Note the phrase "if properly configured". All major browsers have
>
> > blocked javascript from performing direct file I/O with the local
>
> > filesystem. TiddlyFox is a browser plugin for Firefox that restores
>
> > access to the privileged file I/O functions. If you are using Firefox
>
> > without TiddlyFox, then it is *not* "properly configured" for file
>
> > saving. Install the TiddlyFox browser plugin, and try again.
>
>  
>
> Wow. That worked. Awesome.
>
>  
>
> Weird, though, as I'd never had to use TiddyFox before and had never ran 
> into this problem. Then again, truth be told, I was using some really old 
> versions of everything, so perhaps this security feature had not been 
> implemented yet...
>
>  
>
> In any case, thank you all for your help! Much appreciated.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

2016-01-15 Thread Alex S. Garcia

On Friday, January 15, 2016 13:24:53 Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
> Okay, that was interesting. Well done Eric for coming up with the
> solution which helped Alex. I'm confused by the answer though, as I use
> TiddlyWiki to save locally from Firefox under Linux myself, and have
> never had such a permissions problem before, and I don't use, nor need,
> the TiddlyFox plugin.
> 
> I'm wondering if this is a TWC issue and it doesn't affect TW5? I noticed
> that Alex kept mentioning *"clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools'
> in the sidepanel"* (emphasis mine), which I assume indicates that Alex
> is using TWC, not TW5, am I right?

Actually, I use TWW, a modified version of the original TiddlyWiki. The 
"AboutTWW" 
tiddler states this:

"Tiddlywiki Write (updated 11-22-10) is an implementation of the Tiddlywiki 
concept 
(version 2.6.1) and is an experiment in mind mapping for writers."

Definitely not TW5, in any case.



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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

2016-01-15 Thread Mat

It just struck me that tiddler bundling would (eventually) be a nice
addition to the Advanced Search feature, in the Filter section. It fits
very well with the export tiddler(s) concept... even very well, IMO.

I.e the filter result is automatically a link that really is a bundle with
all those tiddlers.

And how about this idea; Imagine if *tags*, were really automatically
bundle links! I mean... as it is currently, a tag is merely a label for a
set of tiddlers, but why could it not BE the tiddlers in a more physical
sense? Transferring groups of tiddlers would be extremely easy. A tag can,
of course, also be the title of a tiddler in itself which should not be a
problem (if one drags the tiddler link, then it's the tiddler, if one drags
the tagpill then it's the bundle. And in the bundle, I the tiddler named
the same as the group would constitute the initial content in the bundle.
The idea of a tag as a bundle link feels like a very natural extension of
the idea that tiddler titles are links.

I think it would be a particularly useful concept when we have the
TWederation... or maybe it really could be seen as a part of twederating?
It certainly is an infrastructurial aspect for sharing. It would be useful
right away; For one thing, bundles as in "light versions of plugins" would
be created incidentally and casually! People wouldn't even need to realize
they were creating easily transferable sets of tiddlers. Any visitor who
wants, say, a copy of the "Filter Operator" docs could get the stuff in
literally 2 seconds.

And... I have an even wilder idea that I'll post in a separate thread
titled something like "[TW5] Instantaneous TiddlyWikis"... I mean, what
else is there to do a Friday evening?

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

Ah, that makes sense, thanks for clarifying that Alex.

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 10:31:01 UTC+13, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 13:24:53 Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> > Okay, that was interesting. Well done Eric for coming up with the
>
> > solution which helped Alex. I'm confused by the answer though, as I use
>
> > TiddlyWiki to save locally from Firefox under Linux myself, and have
>
> > never had such a permissions problem before, and I don't use, nor need,
>
> > the TiddlyFox plugin.
>
> > 
>
> > I'm wondering if this is a TWC issue and it doesn't affect TW5? I noticed
>
> > that Alex kept mentioning *"clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools'
>
> > in the sidepanel"* (emphasis mine), which I assume indicates that Alex
>
> > is using TWC, not TW5, am I right?
>
>  
>
> Actually, I use TWW, a modified version of the original TiddlyWiki. The 
> "AboutTWW" tiddler states this:
>
>  
>
> "Tiddlywiki Write (updated 11-22-10) is an implementation of the 
> Tiddlywiki concept (version 2.6.1) and is an experiment in mind mapping for 
> writers."
>
>  
>
> Definitely not TW5, in any case.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

For why I wanted it to be all wikitext: I was just thinking that it would
be better if the packaging tool could be imported into a wiki without
having to reload. It isn't a big concern but having to install a plugin in
order to export tiddlers from an existing wiki doesn't sound like a good
situation. For example, if there is a project leader who had a large task
list in a central wiki and someone wanted to put only the tasks they are
responsible for into a separate wiki they would have to modify (or copy and
modify) the original wiki to use the plugin.

And no, it isn't rude to ask. For most of my work with tiddlywiki I just
throw together the first thing that comes to mind so I don't always
consider alternatives. Questions often help with that.

JSON does have more complex parsing rules than what I have made and would
have been a bit difficult to handle using only wikitext, since it is all
javascript now json should be just as simple to use as what I am making.
One quick reason is that in a normal json format you need to escape certain
characters (so : becomes \: to show that it is a literal character instead
of a control character), there isn't any reasonable way to do this in
wikitext. The format I am using takes advantage of the specific formatting
imposed by tiddler fields so the only possible confusion would be in the
division between tiddlers. That is why I am using the long strings for
those divisions. Since javascript has builtin support for the json format
this isn't a problem in when using a javascript widget.

I hope to make a more generic version of what you are talking about with
the tags defining bundles. Unfortunately this may either require some
significant additions to the import/export mechanism or that there are
bundle tiddlers created or updated every time a tag is added to a tiddler.

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[tw] Re: Running Bash and Python scripts from within TiddlyWiki

This probably isn't a useful response, but I played with a similar idea 
trying to run perl scripts from a local tiddlywiki and never managed to get 
it working. If you find a way to make this work please share it.

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Re: [tw] Re: Running Bash and Python scripts from within TiddlyWiki

2016-01-15 Thread 'Andreas Hahn' via TiddlyWiki


Hi guys,

I have had similiar ideas in the past and gave it a few tries. The (more 
or less) best thing I could come up with is extending the nodejs-server 
command with a CGI interface. That way the execution of an external 
program turns into a http-request, more specifically a tiddler 
load/render event. Furthermore it is just a simple addition to the sever 
command code so it was what I eventually ended up doing.
Note that this does mean, that the external program needs to be either 
CGI capable itself or you have to have a wrapper application of some sorts.


That sort of solution would also work for TiddlyDesktop, but I don't 
really see a good way of making this work for a standalone wiki. There 
are however other options. The ones I found and tested (all 
unsuccessfully, which is why I ended up doing it another way, but it 
would in theory be possible) are:


- Custom protocol handler in Firefox/OS 
(http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol or in firefox itself in the 
settings menu (note that you need an application runner as a program 
that will take the request and execute the program you want))
- Extend Tiddlyfox to handle a new tw-message 
(https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Code_snippets/Running_applications)
- Get an extension that does that for you. (For example: 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/applauncher/ << Note that 
it looks untrustwhorthy, but it would do the trick, since it can take 
the selected text and incorporate it into the command)


/Andreas

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[tw] Fwd: Tiddlyspace Service Update

2016-01-15 Thread Handoko Suwono



On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 4:00:11 PM UTC+7, TiddlySpace wrote:
>
> *Tiddlyspace Service Update*
>
> The hosting arrangement that supports the tiddlyspace service was renewed 
> in December of last year, assuring that the service will be in place 
> throughout 2016. However, it is unlikely that this arrangement will be 
> renewed again at the end of this year. This means that unless someone 
> either assumes the contractual ownership of the hosting arrangement or 
> provides an alternative solution, *the service will likely cease at the 
> end of December, 2016*.
> During the coming year, osmosoft will continue to provide the fairly 
> limited helpdesk support that we have provided to this point. This support 
> has been and will be limited largely to help with access (passwords, user 
> names, etc) and reporting issues to the hosting service. There is no plan 
> to engage in development of any sort, nor do we anticipate becoming 
> involved in upgrades to the tiddlyspace software.
> It is possible that an individual or group will wish to assume 
> responsibility for hosting the service or negotiating a contracted hosting 
> arrangement. It would be best for this to be proposed within the 
> tiddlyspace user community so that interest might be gauged.
> Any current user who wishes to save information created and held on 
> tiddlyspace.com should consider exporting whatever information is to be 
> saved. For information on the various ways that export may be achieved, 
> check https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlyspace/export.
>

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[tw] Missing WikiText Solutions

As I've begun using TiddlyWiki5 for day-to-day operations, it strikes me
there are three quirks of its wikitext that may be worth revisiting:

1.
*There's no wikitext for an image wrapped in a link. *Jeremy addressed this in
an earlier thread
,
but it does seem like a glaring omission in TW's wikitext.
My personal preference is for [img[path/to/image.jpg]link[TiddlerTitle]]
/ [img[{{ImageTiddler}}]ext[URL]] .
In the absence of such a solution, I've been eschewing wikitext for
images *and* links and filling my tiddlers with HTML — which sort of
defeats the purpose of wikitext, to my way of thinking.

2. *There's no wikitext for highlighting (adding a background-color to
text).*
TiddlyWiki Classic used @@a couple of 'at' symbols@@ to accomplish this.
In its absence, I've been using s — which is fine, but once again,
typing out all that HTML feels like I'm not taking advantage of wikitext.

3. *Using three hyphens (---) to denote an means you can't put an
m-dash on its own line.*
Which may not be a problem for anyone else, but I tend to put an m-dash
on its own line a fair bit and find myself resorting to keyboard shortcuts
when it seems like wikitext should do.
If it took *FOUR* hyphens to indicate an , three would be reserved
for an m-dash, and we wouldn't have this conflict.

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[tw] Re: Missing WikiText Solutions

Hi

Point (2):
@@background-color:red;accomplish this@@

-- but might be easier to create a css style for the task (in a stylesheet):
.highlight {
 background-color:red;
}
-- then:
@@.highlight accomplish this@@

regards

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 03:47:35 UTC+2, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
wrote:
>
> As I've begun using TiddlyWiki5 for day-to-day operations, it strikes me 
> there are three quirks of its wikitext that may be worth revisiting:
>
>1. 
> *There's no wikitext for an image wrapped in a link. *Jeremy addressed 
>this in an earlier thread 
>, 
>but it does seem like a glaring omission in TW's wikitext.
>My personal preference is for 
>[img[path/to/image.jpg]link[TiddlerTitle]] / 
>[img[{{ImageTiddler}}]ext[URL]] .
>In the absence of such a solution, I've been eschewing wikitext for 
>images *and* links and filling my tiddlers with HTML — which sort of 
>defeats the purpose of wikitext, to my way of thinking.
>
>2. *There's no wikitext for highlighting (adding a background-color to 
>text).*
>TiddlyWiki Classic used @@a couple of 'at' symbols@@ to accomplish this
>.
>In its absence, I've been using s — which is fine, but once 
>again, typing out all that HTML feels like I'm not taking advantage of 
>wikitext.
>
>3. *Using three hyphens (---) to denote an  means you can't put an 
>m-dash on its own line.*
>Which may not be a problem for anyone else, but I tend to put an 
>m-dash on its own line a fair bit and find myself resorting to keyboard 
>shortcuts when it seems like wikitext should do.
>If it took *FOUR* hyphens to indicate an , three would be reserved 
>for an m-dash, and we wouldn't have this conflict.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Passing a Transcluded Field Value to a Filter

<$setvars> to the rescue!

>
After playing around with if-then statements unsuccessfully, I managed to
dial it back to just using <$setvars> to scoop up and parse the input *AND* to
build the filter string for the <$list> widget as a variable, which I could
then pass in to <$list>. That seems to have smoothed over any
inconsistencies in my macro parameter sometimes being taken literally
and sometimes being taken as a transclusion. (There may still be some
value in Jeremy taking a look at the test case, since this *may* be
something he wants to tweak in the core.)

Here are the revised macro and its output
,

in case you want to see how <$setvars> got me through.

Backtracking, I was *almost* able to do the same thing with <$set> and an
emptyValue, but the inconsistency in how that variable got used in
different contexts (as {{!!field}} vs as value) kept getting underfoot.
<$setvars>, it seems, was able to "flatten" it to a simple variable with a
text value.

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[tw] Re: Missing WikiText Solutions

Good point!  I'd forgotten

@@.highlight this@@

and had been typing

this

every time.

Though neither one is nearly as convenient when you're jotting down notes as

@@this@@

;)

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[tw] TW5 - Remove "Save Changes, Settings" icon, and "Tools, More" tabs

2016-01-15 Thread Robert Wong Tek Kong

Hello All!

I am a new Tiddywiki user, and wanted to create an information database for 
use within my company. When I release a version to the public, I would like 
to remove the option to save or view settings within the wiki to clean up 
the look of it and subtly prevent any changes. With my current set-up 
people can't make changes anyway, but wanted to completely remove the 
option all together.

Is there any way to do this? Not to familiar with html5, but tried to 
comment out anything related to these options but it messes up the entire 
script.

Thanks in advance for the help!

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[tw] Re: link to external (local) tiddlers

2016-01-15 Thread Wilmer González

the new support it's exactly what i was looking for,
just need '_canonical_uri' attribute and the relative path to the '.tid' 
file and it works.
Although, i don't understand what mean this:
"...
saving changes in the browser doesn't work as expected: if edited, the 
external text tiddler is replaced with an ordinary tiddler
..."

is it that on the new copy the external tiddler its already in the 
html(loaded)?

El miércoles, 13 de enero de 2016, 0:24:30 (UTC-4:30), Wilmer González 
escribió:
>
> Hey guys!
>
> i've been thinking: there's a way to link external tiddlers and see them 
> in the tiddlywiki from where i just call it?
> for example:
>
> we have index.html(as tiddlywiki)
> and inside of it we create a tiddler referencing to helpme.tid (in the 
> same directory)
> then when clicking on the link it shows up (as a regular tiddler) inside 
> of index.html.
>
> ...in the usual way it shows up as another window in the browser.
> anyway i think it could be a great feature if doesn't exist yet.
>
> greetings!
>

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[tw] Re: emulating TiddlyWikiClassic behavior in TiddlyWiki5

Hi, Jean —

I can relate.  I too keep a running TiddlyWiki, which I archive out each 
year.  I don't exactly start fresh, but I do offload my journal tiddlers, 
finished project tiddlers, and anything that isn't "current" to last year's 
archive.  The good news for folks like us us that the archives are still 
perfectly usable and searchable.

Like you, though, I recognize the need to stay current.  I was cautiously 
excited about TW5 back in 2014 but the heavy investment I had made in using 
TiddlyWiki Classic (TWC) day-in and day-out led me to put off a proper 
upgrade for a full year.  It was too frustrating to be faced with a new 
learning curve to perform daily tasks that had become second nature to me 
in TWC.  But now that I'm using TW5 daily, I can report that the 
*excitement* of discovering it for the first time is back, as well.  It 
didn't take long for that excitement and possibility to outstrip the 
anxiety and frustration of being back at the bottom of the learning curve. 
 And the new interface has certainly grown on me!

As a TWC user coming over to TW5, I highly recommend getting at least one 
plugin:
http://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/tw2parser/

You may not plan to bring any tiddlers from the past into your new TW5 
file, but you never know when you might need to import something — and the 
TW2Parser will allow you to view its older-style markup (mostly) as it was 
intended to be viewed.

 

> 2) I want some kind of "open all" associated action associated with a tag. 
> I want to see all the tiddlers with a certain tag in the story view. I 
> don't just want a list of titles but the contents.
>
> I was able to use a list to show all tiddlers with a tag. But I had to 
> paste it into each tag's tiddler individually and I want the tiddlers 
> displayed separately not the way list does it.
>

Try installing the showtaggedtiddlers macro I've attached and then putting 
<> in each tag's tiddler.  This will display 
a "substory" of all the tiddlers within that tiddler.  To go to the 
individual tiddlers themselves (for editing), you can click their titles. 
 You can also selectively "close" them to narrow down what you're looking 
for.

Here's the code of that macro if you'd rather copy it from here and put it 
in your own tiddler (just tag that tiddler $:/tags/Macro):

\define showtaggedtiddlers(tag)

<$list filter="[tag[$tag$]]">



!<$button message="tm-close-tiddler" class="tc-btn-invisible">{{$:/core/
images/close-button}} <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title" 
/>

<$transclude/>




\end

I haven't looked yet, but if such a solution has any appeal, we might be 
able to find and hack the search results tiddler so that it uses the same 
macro to display its results.  I think that would give you something pretty 
darn close to your number (1).

Oh!  I've just noticed Matabele has a more involved (but way more elegant!) 
solution for opening multiple tags that you can find in this thread 

.

And, if I'm not mistaken, an "open all" item on the tag pill dropdown is 
something Jeremy still plans to implement as a core feature of TW5 at some 
point.

3) I would like a single line break to translate into a . Currently I 
> have to do two line breaks to force a new paragraph. I don't want to be 
> typing html  into my posts.
>

See here:
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText

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$--Secret-HQ-macros-showtaggedtiddlers.tid
Description: Binary data

[tw] Re: [TW5] Commenting Plugin (Google+/DISQUS)

2016-01-15 Thread Chester Cho

Haha, actually I was referring your solution as one of the solution, what I 
think why comment plugin is rather to implement on TW5 is simply because 
those JS are not so friendly to static html and they offer little 
customization option.


I can utilize Google+ comment on per tiddler basis, however the CSS style 
of that block seems uncontrollable and I am still finding out why. Google+ 
comment also offer much less control than DISQUS as far I know, so I am 
still finding the best solution among them.

Chester

Jed Carty於 2016年1月16日星期六 UTC+8上午5時19分32秒寫道：
>
> I implemented comments on my tiddlywiki site 
>  using hashover, I did 
> some DISQUS stuff here 
>  but I never got it 
> working well, I did an intense debate demo 
>  here and I 
> did a muut demo here 
> .
>
> muut can be in each tiddler, but the loading is sometimes weird. The only 
> one that I got to work well is hashover 
> .
> 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tiddler naming conventions

Following some advice I read elsewhere (apologies to whomever came up with 
this, I cannot attribute you properly, as I've been reading quite widely 
since starting to use TW), I use the following nomenclature, which keeps 
all my custom system tiddlers together at the top of the System list, where 
they are easier to find.

   - $:/_Macros/
   - $:/_Styles/

I don't know if this is common practice, or just some good advice I came 
across early on in my TW learning curve, but it works for me. I'd do the 
same with $:/_Plugins/ if I knew how to, but I've only installed a single 
plugin so far, and that automatically went to 
$:/plugins/inmysocks/TiddlerTool by default, which I guess is accurate for 
a plugin I didn't create myself. No doubt eventually I'll have some 
$:/plugins/tobibeer/ stuff in there as well. ;-)

Hegart.


On Saturday, 16 January 2016 14:28:25 UTC+13, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
wrote:
>
> I appreciate Jeremy including some guidance on nomenclature 
> 
>  
> in the main TiddlyWiki documentation.  Given the changes to TW5 over the 
> last couple of years, though, I'm curious how uers are actually naming 
> their tiddlers — in particular, user-created system tiddlers.
>
> I've been running counter to convention by naming macros and plugins 
> $:/Secret-HQ/macros/mymacro and $:/Secret-HQ/plugins/myplugin.  Other 
> typical naming for me includes $:/Secret-HQ/ui/sidebar/mysidebartab and 
> $:/Secret-HQ/stylesheet/thisstyle.  (I'd rather switch to /css but I keep 
> using /stylesheet because of $:/tags/Stylesheet.)
>
> This keeps my self-created system tiddlers together in alphabetical 
> listings, but since I tag them all $:/tags/Secret-HQ, I can keep track of 
> them with <> macros easily enough.
>
> It's nonstandard, though, and it will eventually cause problems if I share 
> any of my content.  So I should probably be naming this way, instead:
>
>- $:/macros/Secret-HQ/mymacro
>- $:/plugins/Secret-HQ/myplugin
>- $:/stylesheets/Secret-HQ/thisstyle
>- $:/ui/Secret-HQ/sidebar/mysidebartab
>- $:/tags/Secret-HQ
>
> Am I right in thinking these names are more standardized and less likely 
> to cause conflicts/confusion if the wind up in someone else's TiddlyWiki 
> somehow?
>
> —
>
> As a follow-up question:  What's up with
>
>- $:/tags/Macro
>- $:/tags/ControlPanel
>- $:/tags/PageControl
>- $:/tags/Stylesheet
>
> ... and the like?
>
> I've reconciled myself to their camelcase, but what was the (maybe purely 
> historical now?) logic behind using these names rather than:
>
>- $:/Macro
>- $:/ControlPanel
>- $:/PageControl
>- $:/Stylesheet
>
> ... ?
>
> Identifying tags *AS* tags in their name seems a little clunky and 
> counterintuitive to me — which could just be me having trouble wrapping my 
> brain around the faux-tree naming structure.  Emerson warned that "a 
> foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds," but I can't help 
> thinking it would be more elegant to have $:/Macro/Secret-HQ/mymacro tagged 
> $:/Macro and $:/User/Secret-HQ.
>
> Maybe that itsn't the best way to go about it, but I *DO* feel TiddlyWiki 
> could benefit from tighter consistency of naming conventions, especially 
> with it being so community- and contributor-oriented.  My own nonstandard 
> naming developed out of learning to create different kinds of tiddlers one 
> at a time and not seeing a consistent pattern among the names.  (And I 
> suspect others have faced the same issue, as I stil run across plugins 
> named $:/user/plugin/aplugin rather than $:/plugin/user/aplugin.)
>
> Is development a little too far down the line to be raising this sort of 
> nitpick?  Or is TiddlyWiki5 still fluid enough to benefit from these kinds 
> of questions?
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 - Remove "Save Changes, Settings" icon, and "Tools, More" tabs

Hi

There's a readonly theme available ($:/ControlPanel/Appearance/Theme tab) 
-- this will remove the edit and save buttons.

To remove tabs in the sidebar, delete the $:/tags/SideBar' tag from the 
tabs:
-- e.g. '$:/core/ui/SideBar/More' and '$:/core/ui/SideBar/Tools' 
(AdvancedSearch/Shadows 
on this tag to find them.)

regards

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:27:59 UTC+2, Robert Wong Tek Kong wrote:
>
> Hello All!
>
> I am a new Tiddywiki user, and wanted to create an information database 
> for use within my company. When I release a version to the public, I would 
> like to remove the option to save or view settings within the wiki to clean 
> up the look of it and subtly prevent any changes. With my current set-up 
> people can't make changes anyway, but wanted to completely remove the 
> option all together.
>
> Is there any way to do this? Not to familiar with html5, but tried to 
> comment out anything related to these options but it messes up the entire 
> script.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help!
>

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[tw] Re: Passing a Transcluded Field Value to a Filter

Of course!

I had setvars in the 5.1.9 TiddlyWiki I'd been playing around with for the 
last couple of months, but I started fresh with 5.1.10 and hadn't thought 
to bring it over.  (To be honest, I thought it was a core widget I just 
hadn't dug into yet!)

Looking at the documentation, it's more powerful than I realized — and 
seems, at a glance, to be just what I'm looking for.  It's Friday evening 
here, so this pot of tea and I are about to settle in and give it a shot!

>

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[tw] Re: Missing WikiText Solutions

Hi

If this is something you use often, a keyboard shortcut could be configured 
to add the markup around selected text -- and/or the class could be given a 
shorter name e.g. .ho -- highlight orange, .hr -- highlight red .hg -- 
highlight green

regards

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 06:46:32 UTC+2, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
wrote:
>
> Good point!  I'd forgotten
>
> @@.highlight this@@
>

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[tw] emulating TiddlyWikiClassic behavior in TiddlyWiki5

2016-01-15 Thread Jean Ogryzalov

I've been using TiddlyWiki since 2007 and I really like it. I've done only
light modifications, didn't really poke around in the source code and
stayed away from plugins. I've only used it for one purpose - keeping a
diary. Every year I would make a copy of the file, clear out the entries
from last year and begin again. So it was only recently that I found out
about the reboot.
My first impression of TiddlyWiki5 was negative. It looked uglier, seemed
to work slower and was much more complicated to understand. But that's
normal. You are used to something and react negatively when forced to
change. I'd probably still be using Version 2 if it wasn't for the new
built-in encryption feature.

But I figure I should join the future, learn something new and maybe there
are features in the new version that could come in handy. However, I've
grown quite attached to certain behaviors and I would like the implement
them in my wiki. I've poked around and tried to read the documentation,
communities and such but I think it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that
it can cause one to run away clutching one's head. It's a mess and it's not
helped that the majority of what you find refers to the old version. I
don't want to spend months trying to piece it all together.

I would appreciate help with these. Even an explanation of which
abstractions are needed (macro/message/widget) so I could figure it out
myself. Because right now I'm not sure if what I want is even possible. I
would prefer to not install plug-ins. It seems like TiddlyWiki should be
powerful to do the things I want. Here they are in the order of most to
least important.

1) Search results should display in the story.

In the old tiddlywiki when you searched for a term you would see the
results show in the story view. This is much more useful to me than seeing
a list of matching tiddlers.

2) I want some kind of "open all" associated action associated with a tag.
I want to see all the tiddlers with a certain tag in the story view. I
don't just want a list of titles but the contents.

I was able to use a list to show all tiddlers with a tag. But I had to
paste it into each tag's tiddler individually and I want the tiddlers
displayed separately not the way list does it.

3) I would like a single line break to translate into a . Currently I
have to do two line breaks to force a new paragraph. I don't want to be
typing html into my posts.

My hope is that doing this will teach me more about TiddlyWiki5 is put
together and that I will stick with it and perhaps contribute to the
documentation.

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[tw] Re: Running Bash and Python scripts from within TiddlyWiki

Another non-useful response, but I'm interested in the answer as well. Much 
of what I'm doing with TW is for documenting my network installation in 
preparation for deploying the next Lubuntu LTS version due in April this 
year, and I was intending to just copy the relevant BASH scripts from my TW 
file and paste each into the SSH shell manually. If there is a way to 
execute them directly from TW instead, that would make things even easier 
for me.

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[tw] [TW5] tiddler naming conventions

I appreciate Jeremy including some guidance on nomenclature

in the main TiddlyWiki documentation. Given the changes to TW5 over the
last couple of years, though, I'm curious how uers are actually naming
their tiddlers — in particular, user-created system tiddlers.

I've been running counter to convention by naming macros and plugins
$:/Secret-HQ/macros/mymacro and $:/Secret-HQ/plugins/myplugin. Other
typical naming for me includes $:/Secret-HQ/ui/sidebar/mysidebartab and
$:/Secret-HQ/stylesheet/thisstyle (though I'd rather switch to /css instead
of /stylesheet).

This keeps my self-created system tiddlers together in alphabetical
listings, but since I tag them all $:/tags/Secret-HQ, I can keep track of
them with <> macros easily enough.

It's nonstandard, though, and it will eventually cause problems if I share
any of my content. So I should probably be naming this way, instead:

- $:/css/Secret-HQ/thisstyle
- $:/macros/Secret-HQ/mymacro
- $:/plugins/Secret-HQ/myplugin
- $:/ui/Secret-HQ/sidebar/mysidebartab
- $:/tags/Secret-HQ

Am I right in thinking these names are more standardized and less likely to
cause conflicts/confusion if the wind up in someone else's TiddlyWiki
somehow?

—

As a follow-up question: What's up with

- $:/tags/Macro
- $:/tags/ControlPanel
- $:/tags/PageControl
- $:/tags/Stylesheet

... and the like?

I've reconciled myself to their camelcase, but what was the (maybe purely
historical now?) logic behind using these names rather than:

- $:/Macro
- $:/ControlPanel
- $:/PageControl
- $:/Stylesheet

... ?

Identifying tags *AS* tags in their name seems a little clunky and
counterintuitive to me — which could just be me having trouble wrapping my
brain around the faux-tree naming structure. Emerson warned that "a
foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds," but I can't help
thinking it would be more elegant to have $:/Macro/Secret-HQ/mymacro tagged
$:/Macro and $:/User/Secret-HQ.

Maybe that itsn't the best way to go about it, but I *DO* feel TiddlyWiki
could benefit from tighter consistency of naming conventions, especially
with it being so community- and contributor-oriented. My own nonstandard
naming developed out of learning to create different kinds of tiddlers one
at a time and not seeing a consistent pattern among the names. (And I
suspect others have faced the same issue, as I stil run across plugins
named $:/user/plugin/aplugin rather than $:/plugin/user/aplugin.)

Is development a little too far down the line to be raising this sort of
nitpick? Or is TiddlyWiki5 still fluid enough to benefit from these kinds
of questions?

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[tw] Re: link to external (local) tiddlers

2016-01-15 Thread TiddlyWiker

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 5:54:30 AM UTC+1, Wilmer González wrote:
>
> Hey guys!
>
> i've been thinking: there's a way to link external tiddlers and see them 
> in the tiddlywiki from where i just call it?
> for example:
>
> we have index.html(as tiddlywiki)
> and inside of it we create a tiddler referencing to helpme.tid (in the 
> same directory)
> then when clicking on the link it shows up (as a regular tiddler) inside 
> of index.html.
>
> ...in the usual way it shows up as another window in the browser.
> anyway i think it could be a great feature if doesn't exist yet.
>
> greetings!
>

 Hi Wilmer,

Being a nonprogrammer maybe I have
missed the point somehow but
could this be another way to do it?

1. go to the target tiddlywiki
2. open the tiddler you want "embedded"
3. create a permalink for that tiddler and save
the permalink
4. in the "recieving tiddlywiki" create a tiddler
with the same title
5. in that tiddler create an iframe with 
the permalink

ie.

6. save and Voila!

By the way this should work for "embedding" most files
(depending on the filetype) and folders from your hardrive   
if that is what is meant by embedding.

Just put the link to the file or folder in the above Iframe.

Interestingly it seems the embedded tiddler can also be edited
from your recieving tiddlywiki since it links you to the
original tiddly wiki.
For editing text files, html or other files files embedded in this way
but not within a tiddlywiki
I use the firefox extension 
ViewSourceWith which allows you to view the source and
edit it in the editor of your choice without leaving the
browser.

Regards,

TiddlyWiker

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tiddler naming conventions

So far, the only plugins I've put together are just collections of related, 
reuseable tiddlers that I might want to install in new TiddlyWikis as a set 
of shadows.

But how does one get by without at least *a couple* of /tobibeer plugins? 
 :)

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[tw] Re: Passing a Transcluded Field Value to a Filter

Hi Scott,

Ok, if you're not so puritan as to only want to rely on core features,
I think with some rudimentary studies of how tobibeer/setvars 
 works,
you will have your required conditional logic 
 set up in no 
time.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

2016-01-15 Thread Casey Allan

Thanks :)
 
I changed things to "active", "waiting" and "done" .
 
All is happy on the tasklist front.
 
Cheers,
-C

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 4:33:18 PM UTC, Tobias Beer wrote:

> Hi Casey,
>  
>
>> I can't get the correction with the button to work, though, Tobias - it 
>> doesn't list the tasks at all under the In Progress... header. All I get is 
>> one lone checkbox. 
>>
>
> I feared this might happen. ;-)
>
> It's because I was so so sneaky as to change the tag from *In Progress* 
> to *active*. 
> So, you can either search and replace it back or...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

2016-01-15 Thread Casey Allan

Oh, this is cool. Thanks, Matabele. 
 
Cheers,
-C
 

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 4:59:45 AM UTC, Matabele wrote:

> Hi Casey
>
> An alternative approach which might suit your usage case:
> -- each click of the button will choose the next tag in the list from the 
> 'list' field of the currentTiddler
> -- place the list of tags you wish to cycle through in the 'list' field
>
> <$button>
> <$action-listops $tags="[list[]first[]] -[list[]last[]]" 
> $subfilter="+[putlast[]]"/>
> Tag
>
> list: todo active done
>
> The button code may be written in the form of a global macro (<> 
> macro tiddler attached).
>
> The list field is required for every task tiddler:
> -- the state of the tag for each task is recorded by way of the order of 
> the tags in this field
> -- place the list (starting order) in the template for a new task
>
> regards
>
> On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 13:17:16 UTC+2, Casey Allan wrote:
>>
>> I've got tags adding with no issue...but I want the "In Progress" tag to 
>> be removed once I tick the box to complete it... I'm just not sure how to 
>> delete a tag.
>>  
>> ! Outstanding tasks
>> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[In 
>> Progress]!tag[done]sort[created]]">
>> <$checkbox tag="In Progress"> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
>> field="title"/>
>> 
>> ! In Progress...
>> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[task]tag[In Progress]sort[created]]">
>> <$checkbox tag="done"> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
>> field="title"/>
>> 
>> ! Completed tasks
>> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[task]tag[done]sort[created]]">
>> <$checkbox tag="done"> ~~<$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
>> field="title"/>~~
>> 
>>
>> Any help is very much appreciated.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> -C
>>
>

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Re: [tw] TW5 Default type

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel

Also thanks from my side - this works nicely.

I made that button use the Markdown logo from 
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown#/media/File:Markdown-mark.svg using 
this content for the button tiddler:

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" title="Create new Markdown Tiddler" 
message="tm-new-tiddler" param="markdownSkeleton">










Just in case anyone finds this useful.

Best regards,
Daniel

Am Montag, 22. September 2014 20:33:26 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald Strickland:
>
> Thanks for the info Eric! It worked.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Tiddler visible between two dates

2016-01-15 Thread Philippe Renders


Hello Tobias,

The tiddlers displayed at startup are all tagged 'News'. My idea is to have 
the possibility to prepare 'News' and have them published in the news even 
if I am not present at work.

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[tw] Re: Checkbox for removing tags?

Hi Casey

You might like to have a look at my new cycle[] filter operator from here 
. If you like this solution, copy across 
the modified version of the '$:/core/modules/filters/x-listops.js 
<#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Ffilters%2Fx-listops.js>' filters to your wiki 
(from the More/Systems tab.)

This mechanism has several advantages over my previous <> macro:
-- only one reference list required
-- no conflicts between multiple buttons cycling the same tag
-- can work forward/reverse
-- can cycle multiple items in multiple lists/tiddler

If you prefer this in the form of a macro, this works much like the old 
macro (taking values from the 'list' field of the current tiddler):

\define cycleTags()
<$button>
<$action-listops $tags="+[cycle{!!list}]"/>
Cycle Tag
\end

-- or, even simpler:

\define cycleStatus()
<$button>
<$action-listops $tags="+[cycle[active waiting done]]"/>
Cycle Status
\end

regards

On Friday, 15 January 2016 11:29:46 UTC+2, Casey Allan wrote:
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> Oh, this is cool. Thanks, Matabele.
>

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Re: [tw] TW5 Default type

Hi Daniel,

I think using the *action-sendmessage* widget makes this process easier:

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" title="Create new Markdown Tiddler">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" type="text/x-markdown"/>








Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Tiddler visible between two dates