[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Live Event Beaming
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Juslin Guojuslin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I not sure if this is the place to ask this question. May i check does anyone know of a full-screen application/flash app/web-apps that allow me to beam on a projector/led screen live updates from twitter. I have an event where we would like to let the stadium audience twitter in. Regards Juslin One of my recent projects I believe does exactly what you're looking for Juslin. We had output on Times Square's largest electronic billboard on June 8th, and are currently gearing up the software for similar/broader tasks as well. Feel free to drop me an email off-list if you're interested in learning more. Thanks- - Andy Badera - and...@badera.us - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
[twitter-dev] Re: Spamming via addition of trending words to tweets
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jeffrey Greenbergjeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote: can we expect more aggressive filtering from Twitter itself or is this really a full-blown app responsibility? Careful what you ask for -- if Twitter gets too aggressive, it's bound to impinge upon some developers and users. I'd rather see apps deal with some degree of spam on an audience-appropriate basis than have Twitter issuing edicts on 100% of what is, or is not, spam. Not only do people who all speak the same language have different opinions on what, exactly, is spam, but start figuring in language/cultural differences and I'd bet your as likely to offend someone with attempts at central censoring of what you perceive to be spam as you are to offend someone by failing to eradicate potential spam to begin with. Might be nice if Twitter, or some client app, applied a GMail-style spam filter ... or any other user-rule/behavior based filtering where users decide, individually, what is, or is not, spam, and intelligent algorithms on Twitter's side take user preferences into account and THEN become more proactive. Thanks- - Andy Badera - and...@badera.us - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Live Event Beaming
We are doing Chinese minblog in China: www.zuosa.com And we have been doing that big screen streaming for the last couple of years at conferences in China. It's a free service. Check out this for the use cases: http://blog.zuosa.com Are you in China? Then it is easy. If not in China, we might help. It can be adapted to twitter pretty quickly. Please contact me offlist. Alex Chinese Twitter: www.zuosa.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Juslin Guojuslin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I not sure if this is the place to ask this question. May i check does anyone know of a full-screen application/flash app/web-apps that allow me to beam on a projector/led screen live updates from twitter. I have an event where we would like to let the stadium audience twitter in. Regards Juslin
[twitter-dev] about spidering
hi, i wrote simple posts, with few special characters, bur google didn`t spidered any of them. But google didnt spidered them, i cant find them on that search engine. So what is the reason to use Twitter, if google doesnt spider?
[twitter-dev] JSON status response gives me negative ID
Hi all! I'm writing a twitter-widgets that is based on data formated as JSON. I get the data from http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.json?screen_name=username Locally this works like a charm, but when i upload the script to my webserver i get negative ids. [id] = -1766397267 instead of, [id] = 2528570029 I get the data with file_get_contents() and turn it into an array with json_decode($jsondata,true) with php.. Does anybody have a clue why it is like this? / Alex
[twitter-dev] Re: stopping bit.ly automatic shortening of urls
However, if you paste in a link that is less than 30 characters, we'll post it in its entirety. If it's longer than 30 characters, we'll convert it to a shorter URL. Source: http://help.twitter.com/portal
[twitter-dev] Re: tweeting more than 140 words
example is http://twitter.com/hashgoogle/status/2531249931 On Jul 8, 11:01 am, twittwit ytbr...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, i notice that hashgooglehttp://twitter.com/hashgoogleis tweeting more than 140words. and it is using api. anybody know which api methods allow that? or is that a whitelisting thing? thanks! cheers bryan
[twitter-dev] Re: JSON status response gives me negative ID
2009/7/8 AlexanderZn alexan...@liljengard.se: Hi all! I'm writing a twitter-widgets that is based on data formated as JSON. I get the data from http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.json?screen_name=username Locally this works like a charm, but when i upload the script to my webserver i get negative ids. [id] = -1766397267 instead of, [id] = 2528570029 I get the data with file_get_contents() and turn it into an array with json_decode($jsondata,true) with php.. Does anybody have a clue why it is like this? You're running on 32-bits and json_decode treats numbers it gets as numbers, so when converted to a signed 32-bit int it becomes negative. The easiest solution is to use the pear package Services_JSON instead of json_decode and ensure your code never treats the ID as a number. The better solution is to move to 64-bit but obviously that may involve changing hardware so might not be feasible for you. -Stuart -- http://stut.net/projects/twitter/
[twitter-dev] Re: about spidering
hi, i wrote simple posts, with few special characters, bur google didn`t spidered any of them. But google didnt spidered them, i cant find them on that search engine. So what is the reason to use Twitter, if google doesnt spider? Obviously not SEO. *ahem* -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- I'd love to go out with you, but I need to clean my toilet brush.
[twitter-dev] Re: tweeting more than 140 words
In the vien of There's an app for that … There's a ticket for that: http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=807 — Matt On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:19 AM, twittwit ytbr...@gmail.com wrote: example is http://twitter.com/hashgoogle/status/2531249931 Huh... that one is 150 characters, which means it won't fit in a 140- character database column. Strange. Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Whitelist Limits
You should consider using the Streaming API in conjunction with the REST API to build such a service, it might make things a little easier. Currently there are several obstacles for a large-scale integration with a service that intends to duplicate a desktop application's functionality. The REST API, in part due to rate limiting, and in part due to the nature of polling, doesn't make this particularly easy at small scale, and makes it impractical at large- scale. As luck would have it, we've been very casually discussing just this sort of integration. Feel free to mail me your requirements and I'll get them to the Platform product manager. -John Kalucki twitter.com/jkalucki Services, Twitter Inc. On Jul 7, 8:57 pm, whoiskb whoi...@gmail.com wrote: From what I can tell, the white list limits are 20,000 calls per hour. I am curious if any app out there has come close to hitting that limit yet, and if so could you provide some usage details about your application? I am trying to make a decision about creating a single user desktop app vs a multi user web app. I really want to create it as a web app, but I am concerned about the long term viability of the white list limit.
[twitter-dev] Re: Spamming via addition of trending words to tweets
I'm liking Andrew's thoughts regarding sensitivity to what spam is, and am thinking about the gmail like vote-if-spam approach. Wondering if the api community (or really twitterers) would use an api such as this: smellsLikeSpam( list_of_tweet_ids )... Twitter could aggregate and apply policy to resulting votes. If you're doing a twitter interface app, then you've got to provide this unpleasant activity to users which they currentl don't have to do now. But gmail is an argument in favor of it working well and not being too onerous on users in the aggregate. I think the problem in general is more dire for search-based functionality than for general tweeting, since search picks up not only (somewhat) older tweets but new ones and potentially in very large quantities. So if I pick up a tweets yesterday and today it becomes spam, I'll want to know about that and be ale to toss the tweet (god what phrase), which has implications for apps such as mine and for twitter too... .
[twitter-dev] Re: Help with twitter profile.
Can anyone help?
On Jul 7, 6:25 pm, Slicey sli...@live.co.uk wrote:
Basically I am trying to make a site where a user come to the site,
types in their username, song title, artist title, and uploads a song,
this then gets stored in a database along with a random generated
code.
What I am trying to do is make a twitter clone page of the users
profile. eg. if a user has the username blahblah and the random code
in the database is 3hr8e I want it so when I go
towww.mysite.com/twitter.php?pwd=3hr8e
This is what I have tried however I can't get anything to show up. Is
there something I'm doing wrong?
?php
require (connect.php);
require (functions.php);
include(template/twitterheader.php);
// require the twitter library
require twitter.lib.php;
$pwd = mysql_real_escape_string($_GET['pwd']);
$result = mysql_query(SELECT * FROM songs WHERE pwd='$pwd');
$screen = mysql_fetch_array($result);
$username = $screen['username'];
// initialize the twitter class
$twitter = new Twitter($username);
// fetch your profile in xml format
$xml = $twitter-getUserTimeline();
/* display the raw xml
echo 'pre';
echo $xml;
echo '/pre';*/
$twitter_status = new SimpleXMLElement($xml);
foreach($twitter_status-status as $status){
echo 'div class=twitter_status';
foreach($status-user as $user){
}
echo $status-text;
echo $user-followers_count;
echo 'br/';
echo 'div class=twitter_posted_atstrongPosted at:/strong '.
$status-created_at.'/div';
echo '/div';
}
include(template/twitterfooter.php);
?
Function:
function getUserTimeline($options = array(), $format = 'xml') {
return $this-apiCall('statuses/user_timeline', 'get',
$format,
$options, true);
}
[twitter-dev] Re: Help with twitter profile.
I think the absence of responses might be that there are many variables in
your code and I cant get anything to show up could mean anything,
including things in your include files, etc
Being much more specific about output makes it easy for the brains to help.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Slicey sli...@live.co.uk wrote:
Can anyone help?
On Jul 7, 6:25 pm, Slicey sli...@live.co.uk wrote:
Basically I am trying to make a site where a user come to the site,
types in their username, song title, artist title, and uploads a song,
this then gets stored in a database along with a random generated
code.
What I am trying to do is make a twitter clone page of the users
profile. eg. if a user has the username blahblah and the random code
in the database is 3hr8e I want it so when I go
towww.mysite.com/twitter.php?pwd=3hr8e
This is what I have tried however I can't get anything to show up. Is
there something I'm doing wrong?
?php
require (connect.php);
require (functions.php);
include(template/twitterheader.php);
// require the twitter library
require twitter.lib.php;
$pwd = mysql_real_escape_string($_GET['pwd']);
$result = mysql_query(SELECT * FROM songs WHERE pwd='$pwd');
$screen = mysql_fetch_array($result);
$username = $screen['username'];
// initialize the twitter class
$twitter = new Twitter($username);
// fetch your profile in xml format
$xml = $twitter-getUserTimeline();
/* display the raw xml
echo 'pre';
echo $xml;
echo '/pre';*/
$twitter_status = new SimpleXMLElement($xml);
foreach($twitter_status-status as $status){
echo 'div class=twitter_status';
foreach($status-user as $user){
}
echo $status-text;
echo $user-followers_count;
echo 'br/';
echo 'div class=twitter_posted_atstrongPosted at:/strong
'.
$status-created_at.'/div';
echo '/div';
}
include(template/twitterfooter.php);
?
Function:
function getUserTimeline($options = array(), $format = 'xml') {
return $this-apiCall('statuses/user_timeline', 'get',
$format,
$options, true);
}
--
Peter M. Denton
www.twibs.com
i...@twibs.com
Twibs makes Top 20 apps on Twitter - http://tinyurl.com/bopu6c
[twitter-dev] Re: Spamming via addition of trending words to tweets
I didn't even know that there was a way to report tweet spam to Twitter. I'll definitely add a Report Spam feature to my application. On Jul 8, 11:28 am, Jeffrey Greenberg jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm liking Andrew's thoughts regarding sensitivity to what spam is, and am thinking about the gmail like vote-if-spam approach. Wondering if the api community (or really twitterers) would use an api such as this: smellsLikeSpam( list_of_tweet_ids )... Twitter could aggregate and apply policy to resulting votes. If you're doing a twitter interface app, then you've got to provide this unpleasant activity to users which they currentl don't have to do now. But gmail is an argument in favor of it working well and not being too onerous on users in the aggregate. I think the problem in general is more dire for search-based functionality than for general tweeting, since search picks up not only (somewhat) older tweets but new ones and potentially in very large quantities. So if I pick up a tweets yesterday and today it becomes spam, I'll want to know about that and be ale to toss the tweet (god what phrase), which has implications for apps such as mine and for twitter too... .
[twitter-dev] Re: Help with twitter profile.
Can anyone help?
On Jul 7, 6:25 pm, Slicey sli...@live.co.uk wrote:
Basically I am trying to make a site where a user come to the site,
types in their username, song title, artist title, and uploads a song,
this then gets stored in a database along with a random generated
code.
What I am trying to do is make a twitter clone page of the users
profile. eg. if a user has the username blahblah and the random code
in the database is 3hr8e I want it so when I go
towww.mysite.com/twitter.php?pwd=3hr8e
This is what I have tried however I can't get anything to show up. Is
there something I'm doing wrong?
?php
require (connect.php);
require (functions.php);
include(template/twitterheader.php);
// require the twitter library
require twitter.lib.php;
$pwd = mysql_real_escape_string($_GET['pwd']);
$result = mysql_query(SELECT * FROM songs WHERE pwd='$pwd');
$screen = mysql_fetch_array($result);
$username = $screen['username'];
// initialize the twitter class
$twitter = new Twitter($username);
// fetch your profile in xml format
$xml = $twitter-getUserTimeline();
/* display the raw xml
echo 'pre';
echo $xml;
echo '/pre';*/
$twitter_status = new SimpleXMLElement($xml);
foreach($twitter_status-status as $status){
echo 'div class=twitter_status';
foreach($status-user as $user){
}
echo $status-text;
echo $user-followers_count;
echo 'br/';
echo 'div class=twitter_posted_atstrongPosted at:/strong '.
$status-created_at.'/div';
echo '/div';
}
include(template/twitterfooter.php);
?
Function:
function getUserTimeline($options = array(), $format = 'xml') {
return $this-apiCall('statuses/user_timeline', 'get',
$format,
$options, true);
}
[twitter-dev] Re: Help with twitter profile.
Well, it doesn't look like you ever give the user's password to the
Twitter object. It's probably failing on authentication.
On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, Slicey sli...@live.co.uk wrote:
Can anyone help?
On Jul 7, 6:25 pm, Slicey sli...@live.co.uk wrote:
Basically I am trying to make a site where a user come to the site,
types in their username, song title, artist title, and uploads a song,
this then gets stored in a database along with a random generated
code.
What I am trying to do is make a twitter clone page of the users
profile. eg. if a user has the username blahblah and the random code
in the database is 3hr8e I want it so when I go
towww.mysite.com/twitter.php?pwd=3hr8e
This is what I have tried however I can't get anything to show up. Is
there something I'm doing wrong?
?php
require (connect.php);
require (functions.php);
include(template/twitterheader.php);
// require the twitter library
require twitter.lib.php;
$pwd = mysql_real_escape_string($_GET['pwd']);
$result = mysql_query(SELECT * FROM songs WHERE pwd='$pwd');
$screen = mysql_fetch_array($result);
$username = $screen['username'];
// initialize the twitter class
$twitter = new Twitter($username);
// fetch your profile in xml format
$xml = $twitter-getUserTimeline();
/* display the raw xml
echo 'pre';
echo $xml;
echo '/pre';*/
$twitter_status = new SimpleXMLElement($xml);
foreach($twitter_status-status as $status){
echo 'div class=twitter_status';
foreach($status-user as $user){
}
echo $status-text;
echo $user-followers_count;
echo 'br/';
echo 'div class=twitter_posted_atstrongPosted at:/strong '.
$status-created_at.'/div';
echo '/div';
}
include(template/twitterfooter.php);
?
Function:
function getUserTimeline($options = array(), $format = 'xml') {
return $this-apiCall('statuses/user_timeline', 'get',
$format,
$options, true);
}
[twitter-dev] Re: Spamming via addition of trending words to tweets
Outside of trends, another area where this could be handy is when using Twitter as a sort of OpenId style authentication method. i.e. Sign in with your twitter account. Our service we have a lot of tools and algorithms in place to eradicate spam. A few months ago, we offered twitter authentication as an alternate means to create an account on our site (in addition to Facebook, OpenId, and regular password signup). As such a small subset of our users are also Twitter users and early adopters of the alternate login seemed to be spammers based on our algorithms. I assume if they are a spammer on our service they are likely a spammer on Twitter... and vice versa. A smellLikeSpam(user_id) api call to inform Twitter and a sort of X-Spam style header in the user information details would be great. Reciprocating this information might be valuable in nipping spam at the bud. IPs and URL tie ins with other Blacklists would be great as well, but might be overkill at first. Blaine On Jul 8, 10:28 am, Jeffrey Greenberg jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm liking Andrew's thoughts regarding sensitivity to what spam is, and am thinking about the gmail like vote-if-spam approach. Wondering if the api community (or really twitterers) would use an api such as this: smellsLikeSpam( list_of_tweet_ids )... Twitter could aggregate and apply policy to resulting votes. If you're doing a twitter interface app, then you've got to provide this unpleasant activity to users which they currentl don't have to do now. But gmail is an argument in favor of it working well and not being too onerous on users in the aggregate. I think the problem in general is more dire for search-based functionality than for general tweeting, since search picks up not only (somewhat) older tweets but new ones and potentially in very large quantities. So if I pick up a tweets yesterday and today it becomes spam, I'll want to know about that and be ale to toss the tweet (god what phrase), which has implications for apps such as mine and for twitter too... .
[twitter-dev] Re: stopping bit.ly automatic shortening of urls
this is a topic of interest to me for a long while. been meaning to start a thread. i'm often bothered by the automatic shortening of urls when in fact the url does not need to be shortened. in these cases, i of course do not want to hide the real url by using a forced 3rd party service like bit.ly. i have use cases where all that is posted is a url. and the url includes a long detailed description of the link. this, in my opinion, is smart as the only object to maintain is the url itself which provides a hyperlink and a short message combined. sometimes, these use cases are using natural language vanity urls to form short sentences. ie. http://john.tot.al.ly/wiped-out-on-this-huge-wave-in-hawaii-at-the-Surf-Hawaii-Surf-School-on-the-island-of-Oahu the other annoying thing that is related to the twitter UI is how long urls are cut-off//trimmed even if they dont need to be. the above example would be destroyed because it would result in something like: http://john.tot.al.ly/wip actually, i'm not certain if that is still the case as it seems to me that every url is shortened with bit.ly now. i grok the value in tracking urls and bit.ly may be bought by twitter at some point and this notion of url tracking will be fully integrated but the debate about url shortners in general how they can break the natural web, are vulnerable to massive broken links and simply thr cryptic format itself that hides the true location are all to be considered and continued to be debated. at the very least, 3rd party developers should get an override toggle. that is something i think we all need to start demanding. and yes, an official doc explaining the current and future impementations of url shortening on twitter is definitely needed now. http://plea.se/twitter-dont-shorten-this-url-with-bitly-since-it-does-not-need-to-be-shortened-with-8-available-characters-remaining http://twitter.com/sull/status/2534470050 @sull On Jul 8, 4:50 am, Swaroop rh.swar...@gmail.com wrote: However, if you paste in a link that is less than 30 characters, we'll post it in its entirety. If it's longer than 30 characters, we'll convert it to a shorter URL. Source:http://help.twitter.com/portal
[twitter-dev] Re: Help with twitter profile.
Can anyone help?
On Jul 7, 6:25 pm, Slicey sli...@live.co.uk wrote:
Basically I am trying to make a site where a user come to the site,
types in their username, song title, artist title, and uploads a song,
this then gets stored in a database along with a random generated
code.
What I am trying to do is make a twitter clone page of the users
profile. eg. if a user has the username blahblah and the random code
in the database is 3hr8e I want it so when I go
towww.mysite.com/twitter.php?pwd=3hr8e
This is what I have tried however I can't get anything to show up. Is
there something I'm doing wrong?
?php
require (connect.php);
require (functions.php);
include(template/twitterheader.php);
// require the twitter library
require twitter.lib.php;
$pwd = mysql_real_escape_string($_GET['pwd']);
$result = mysql_query(SELECT * FROM songs WHERE pwd='$pwd');
$screen = mysql_fetch_array($result);
$username = $screen['username'];
// initialize the twitter class
$twitter = new Twitter($username);
// fetch your profile in xml format
$xml = $twitter-getUserTimeline();
/* display the raw xml
echo 'pre';
echo $xml;
echo '/pre';*/
$twitter_status = new SimpleXMLElement($xml);
foreach($twitter_status-status as $status){
echo 'div class=twitter_status';
foreach($status-user as $user){
}
echo $status-text;
echo $user-followers_count;
echo 'br/';
echo 'div class=twitter_posted_atstrongPosted at:/strong '.
$status-created_at.'/div';
echo '/div';
}
include(template/twitterfooter.php);
?
Function:
function getUserTimeline($options = array(), $format = 'xml') {
return $this-apiCall('statuses/user_timeline', 'get',
$format,
$options, true);
}
[twitter-dev] Re: JSON status response gives me negative ID
On Jul 8, 2:26 pm, Stuart stut...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/8 AlexanderZn alexan...@liljengard.se:
Hi all!
I'm writing a twitter-widgets that is based on data formated as JSON.
I get the data from
http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.json?screen_name=username
Locally this works like a charm, but when i upload the script to my
webserver i get negative ids.
[id] = -1766397267
instead of,
[id] = 2528570029
I get the data with file_get_contents() and turn it into an array with
json_decode($jsondata,true) with php..
Does anybody have a clue why it is like this?
You're running on 32-bits and json_decode treats numbers it gets as
numbers, so when converted to a signed 32-bit int it becomes negative.
The easiest solution is to use the pear package Services_JSON instead
of json_decode and ensure your code never treats the ID as a number.
The better solution is to move to 64-bit but obviously that may
involve changing hardware so might not be feasible for you.
-Stuart
--http://stut.net/projects/twitter/
Thanks!
Solved my problem. Since im planning on releasing my widget to the
public i would like it to work on most of the systems..
My solution was easy.
I just added a preg_replace and converted the int to a string:
preg_replace('#id\:([0-9]+)#i','id:$1',file_get_contents($url))
Thanks for the pointer!
/ Alex
[twitter-dev] Re: stopping bit.ly automatic shortening of urls
ironically, my example urls are shortened here ;) On Jul 8, 12:20 pm, sull sullele...@gmail.com wrote: this is a topic of interest to me for a long while. been meaning to start a thread. i'm often bothered by the automatic shortening of urls when in fact the url does not need to be shortened. in these cases, i of course do not want to hide the real url by using a forced 3rd party service like bit.ly. i have use cases where all that is posted is a url. and the url includes a long detailed description of the link. this, in my opinion, is smart as the only object to maintain is the url itself which provides a hyperlink and a short message combined. sometimes, these use cases are using natural language vanity urls to form short sentences. ie.http://john.tot.al.ly/wiped-out-on-this-huge-wave-in-hawaii-at-the-Su... the other annoying thing that is related to the twitter UI is how long urls are cut-off//trimmed even if they dont need to be. the above example would be destroyed because it would result in something like: http://john.tot.al.ly/wip actually, i'm not certain if that is still the case as it seems to me that every url is shortened with bit.ly now. i grok the value in tracking urls and bit.ly may be bought by twitter at some point and this notion of url tracking will be fully integrated but the debate about url shortners in general how they can break the natural web, are vulnerable to massive broken links and simply thr cryptic format itself that hides the true location are all to be considered and continued to be debated. at the very least, 3rd party developers should get an override toggle. that is something i think we all need to start demanding. and yes, an official doc explaining the current and future impementations of url shortening on twitter is definitely needed now. http://plea.se/twitter-dont-shorten-this-url-with-bitly-since-it-does... http://twitter.com/sull/status/2534470050 @sull On Jul 8, 4:50 am, Swaroop rh.swar...@gmail.com wrote: However, if you paste in a link that is less than 30 characters, we'll post it in its entirety. If it's longer than 30 characters, we'll convert it to a shorter URL. Source:http://help.twitter.com/portal
[twitter-dev] updating follow/shadow/birddog list of users
Uf you have thousands of users, do you really have to cook up a following file with comma-separated say 100,000 user IDs? Should it all be on one line? Now what happens if we want to drop some and add some IDs -- do we have to restart and re-upload all that list again? I see when the curl -d @following ... starts up, it does that. Restarting with huge lists sounds like data loss... Cheers, Alexy
[twitter-dev] Re: Trying very hard to use OAuth - need help!
Abraham Williams has a great PHP sample here that is simple and easy to use: http://twitter.abrah.am/ Thanks, Doug On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Echieo ech...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I'd really like to use OAuth for my new twitter application, as I know Twitter is trying to move in that direction, but I can't for the life of me figure out how. I've been over the wiki documentation and I understand the theory but have no idea how to implement it. I see there are several libraries out there but they are all very complex. Can someone give me a simple PHP example what to do with my consumer key and consumer secret? I can't find a clear explanation of oauth syntax anywhere. How do I actually send the request? Attempting to be compliant, Echieo
[twitter-dev] Trying very hard to use OAuth - need help!
Hey everyone, I'd really like to use OAuth for my new twitter application, as I know Twitter is trying to move in that direction, but I can't for the life of me figure out how. I've been over the wiki documentation and I understand the theory but have no idea how to implement it. I see there are several libraries out there but they are all very complex. Can someone give me a simple PHP example what to do with my consumer key and consumer secret? I can't find a clear explanation of oauth syntax anywhere. How do I actually send the request? Attempting to be compliant, Echieo
[twitter-dev] Re: Trying very hard to use OAuth - need help!
I've been over his example but it doesn't explain how to use oauth, only how to use his library. I'm having trouble figuring out what to send via curl to twitter to create my own. I could always use his library but I'd like to create one myself. I've been trying to deconstruct all of the objects he builds to set up his curl string but no luck yet. On Jul 8, 3:34 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Abraham Williams has a great PHP sample here that is simple and easy to use:http://twitter.abrah.am/ Thanks, Doug On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Echieo ech...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I'd really like to use OAuth for my new twitter application, as I know Twitter is trying to move in that direction, but I can't for the life of me figure out how. I've been over the wiki documentation and I understand the theory but have no idea how to implement it. I see there are several libraries out there but they are all very complex. Can someone give me a simple PHP example what to do with my consumer key and consumer secret? I can't find a clear explanation of oauth syntax anywhere. How do I actually send the request? Attempting to be compliant, Echieo
[twitter-dev] Re: Trying very hard to use OAuth - need help!
I would advise reading: http://oauth.net/documentation/getting-started And looking over the OAuth PHP lib: http://code.google.com/p/oauth/source/browse/#svn/code/php Abraham On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 14:56, Echieo ech...@gmail.com wrote: I've been over his example but it doesn't explain how to use oauth, only how to use his library. I'm having trouble figuring out what to send via curl to twitter to create my own. I could always use his library but I'd like to create one myself. I've been trying to deconstruct all of the objects he builds to set up his curl string but no luck yet. On Jul 8, 3:34 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Abraham Williams has a great PHP sample here that is simple and easy to use:http://twitter.abrah.am/ Thanks, Doug On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Echieo ech...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I'd really like to use OAuth for my new twitter application, as I know Twitter is trying to move in that direction, but I can't for the life of me figure out how. I've been over the wiki documentation and I understand the theory but have no idea how to implement it. I see there are several libraries out there but they are all very complex. Can someone give me a simple PHP example what to do with my consumer key and consumer secret? I can't find a clear explanation of oauth syntax anywhere. How do I actually send the request? Attempting to be compliant, Echieo -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
[twitter-dev] Illegal byte sequence 0x00 in UTF8
I'm loading twits into PostgreSQL, and get a few hundreds of errors
for illegal sequence 0x00 in UTF8, e.g. (each leading . is 10,000
gardenhose twits):
.org.postgresql.util.PSQLException: ERROR: invalid byte sequence for
encoding UTF8: 0x00 [loving the weather here in sunny birmingham uk
at the moment but its hard to sleep in when imfeeling lazy lol]
com.tfitter.db.DBError: CANNOT PUT TWIT 2283513311
ROLLBACK uid=21490127 tid=2283513311
org.postgresql.util.PSQLException: ERROR: invalid byte sequence
for encoding UTF8: 0x00 F?9H^f'??%???p?{^]
com.tfitter.db.DBError: CANNOT PUT TWIT 2283842814
ROLLBACK uid=30029372 tid=2283842814
...org.postgresql.util.PSQLException: ERROR: invalid byte sequence for
encoding UTF8: 0x00 [...@andycrofford まだ脱ぐな。そろそろこのこと考えるのは最後にされると、5エ譛ォ遶ッ
縺ョ譁ケ縺ッ蜃コ鬘後＆繧後腟蕭⒢㎢⒢⒢]
Anybody knows how to get rid of those 0x00s cleanly in Scala/Java?
Cheers,
Alexy
[twitter-dev] Re: Trying very hard to use OAuth - need help!
Hey Echieo You can ping me off the list and I can help you get something working. On Jul 8, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Echieo ech...@gmail.com wrote: I've been over his example but it doesn't explain how to use oauth, only how to use his library. I'm having trouble figuring out what to send via curl to twitter to create my own. I could always use his library but I'd like to create one myself. I've been trying to deconstruct all of the objects he builds to set up his curl string but no luck yet. On Jul 8, 3:34 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Abraham Williams has a great PHP sample here that is simple and easy to use:http://twitter.abrah.am/ Thanks, Doug On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Echieo ech...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I'd really like to use OAuth for my new twitter application, as I know Twitter is trying to move in that direction, but I can't for the life of me figure out how. I've been over the wiki documentation and I understand the theory but have no idea how to implement it. I see there are several libraries out there but they are all very complex. Can someone give me a simple PHP example what to do with my consumer key and consumer secret? I can't find a clear explanation of oauth syntax anywhere. How do I actually send the request? Attempting to be compliant, Echieo
[twitter-dev] Re: stopping bit.ly automatic shortening of urls
I am curious if there has ever been an official response from twitter on why some simple HTML has not been allowed in a tweet? If we were able to use an anchor tag, and the HTML did not count against the 140 character limit, then the need for a URL shortener service would not be needed. On Jul 8, 10:27 am, sull sullele...@gmail.com wrote: ironically, my example urls are shortened here ;) On Jul 8, 12:20 pm, sull sullele...@gmail.com wrote: this is a topic of interest to me for a long while. been meaning to start a thread. i'm often bothered by the automatic shortening of urls when in fact the url does not need to be shortened. in these cases, i of course do not want to hide the real url by using a forced 3rd party service like bit.ly. i have use cases where all that is posted is a url. and the url includes a long detailed description of the link. this, in my opinion, is smart as the only object to maintain is the url itself which provides a hyperlink and a short message combined. sometimes, these use cases are using natural language vanity urls to form short sentences. ie.http://john.tot.al.ly/wiped-out-on-this-huge-wave-in-hawaii-at-the-Su... the other annoying thing that is related to the twitter UI is how long urls are cut-off//trimmed even if they dont need to be. the above example would be destroyed because it would result in something like: http://john.tot.al.ly/wip actually, i'm not certain if that is still the case as it seems to me that every url is shortened with bit.ly now. i grok the value in tracking urls and bit.ly may be bought by twitter at some point and this notion of url tracking will be fully integrated but the debate about url shortners in general how they can break the natural web, are vulnerable to massive broken links and simply thr cryptic format itself that hides the true location are all to be considered and continued to be debated. at the very least, 3rd party developers should get an override toggle. that is something i think we all need to start demanding. and yes, an official doc explaining the current and future impementations of url shortening on twitter is definitely needed now. http://plea.se/twitter-dont-shorten-this-url-with-bitly-since-it-does... http://twitter.com/sull/status/2534470050 @sull On Jul 8, 4:50 am, Swaroop rh.swar...@gmail.com wrote: However, if you paste in a link that is less than 30 characters, we'll post it in its entirety. If it's longer than 30 characters, we'll convert it to a shorter URL. Source:http://help.twitter.com/portal
[twitter-dev] Re: stopping bit.ly automatic shortening of urls
It goes back to the root of twitter originally being a SMS application. I recall hearing or reading someone on the Twitter team saying that. -Joel On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:31 PM, whoiskb whoi...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious if there has ever been an official response from twitter on why some simple HTML has not been allowed in a tweet? If we were able to use an anchor tag, and the HTML did not count against the 140 character limit, then the need for a URL shortener service would not be needed. On Jul 8, 10:27 am, sull sullele...@gmail.com wrote: ironically, my example urls are shortened here ;) On Jul 8, 12:20 pm, sull sullele...@gmail.com wrote: this is a topic of interest to me for a long while. been meaning to start a thread. i'm often bothered by the automatic shortening of urls when in fact the url does not need to be shortened. in these cases, i of course do not want to hide the real url by using a forced 3rd party service like bit.ly. i have use cases where all that is posted is a url. and the url includes a long detailed description of the link. this, in my opinion, is smart as the only object to maintain is the url itself which provides a hyperlink and a short message combined. sometimes, these use cases are using natural language vanity urls to form short sentences. ie.http://john.tot.al.ly/wiped-out-on-this-huge-wave-in-hawaii-at- the-Su... the other annoying thing that is related to the twitter UI is how long urls are cut-off//trimmed even if they dont need to be. the above example would be destroyed because it would result in something like: http://john.tot.al.ly/wip actually, i'm not certain if that is still the case as it seems to me that every url is shortened with bit.ly now. i grok the value in tracking urls and bit.ly may be bought by twitter at some point and this notion of url tracking will be fully integrated but the debate about url shortners in general how they can break the natural web, are vulnerable to massive broken links and simply thr cryptic format itself that hides the true location are all to be considered and continued to be debated. at the very least, 3rd party developers should get an override toggle. that is something i think we all need to start demanding. and yes, an official doc explaining the current and future impementations of url shortening on twitter is definitely needed now. http://plea.se/twitter-dont-shorten-this-url-with-bitly-since-it-does ... http://twitter.com/sull/status/2534470050 @sull On Jul 8, 4:50 am, Swaroop rh.swar...@gmail.com wrote: However, if you paste in a link that is less than 30 characters, we'll post it in its entirety. If it's longer than 30 characters, we'll convert it to a shorter URL. Source:http://help.twitter.com/portal
[twitter-dev] Re: updating follow/shadow/birddog list of users
Yes, it's a bit of a pain right now. Long term, we intend on providing methods in the REST API that you can call from another process, while connected to the Streaming API. Those methods will allow you to add and remove user IDs from the list of users you're getting streaming updates from. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:17, braver delivera...@gmail.com wrote: Uf you have thousands of users, do you really have to cook up a following file with comma-separated say 100,000 user IDs? Should it all be on one line? Now what happens if we want to drop some and add some IDs -- do we have to restart and re-upload all that list again? I see when the curl -d @following ... starts up, it does that. Restarting with huge lists sounds like data loss... Cheers, Alexy -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x
[twitter-dev] Pull email address after authentication?
If a Twitter user has authenticated my app, is it possible for me to
view their email address?
From what I can tell through the O'Reilly book and Google searches,
the answer is currently no due to, I'm assuming, security
concerns... But I can think of several reasons why the user may want
to allow me to have this information. For example, they could use my
app to set up email alerts for themselves that would be triggered by
various events, or use it to send them compiled reports, etc. Being
able to read their email address could be very useful, and I would
love to have it as a feature in the API.
Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me. People put their email address
into forms all over the Internet all the time, probably hundreds of
times per year, so it seems silly for me not to be able to read it
even with the user's permission.
One feature that should _definitely_ be removed, however, is the
ability to _change_ the user's email addresss. For instance, if a
person authorizes my app and I do this:
$to-OAuthRequest('https://twitter.com/account/update_profile.xml',
array('email' = 'iame...@hotmail.com'), 'POST');
then all I have to do is fill out the Forgotten Password form, check
the confirmation code that gets sent to _my_ hotmail address, and then
suddenly I've got full control over the poor user's account and the
ability to spam all of their followers. Watch out, Ashton!
I can't believe that the Twitter API permits this, but doesn't allow
me to do something simple and useful like emailing the person a list
of their followers. Am I missing something?
Dave.
[twitter-dev] Re: Pull email address after authentication?
*Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me.*
Shouldn't you be applying the same logic to why they would trust you not to
update their email address?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 15:47, Dave Hensley davehens...@gmail.com wrote:
If a Twitter user has authenticated my app, is it possible for me to
view their email address?
From what I can tell through the O'Reilly book and Google searches,
the answer is currently no due to, I'm assuming, security
concerns... But I can think of several reasons why the user may want
to allow me to have this information. For example, they could use my
app to set up email alerts for themselves that would be triggered by
various events, or use it to send them compiled reports, etc. Being
able to read their email address could be very useful, and I would
love to have it as a feature in the API.
Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me. People put their email address
into forms all over the Internet all the time, probably hundreds of
times per year, so it seems silly for me not to be able to read it
even with the user's permission.
One feature that should _definitely_ be removed, however, is the
ability to _change_ the user's email addresss. For instance, if a
person authorizes my app and I do this:
$to-OAuthRequest('https://twitter.com/account/update_profile.xml',
array('email' = 'iame...@hotmail.com'), 'POST');
then all I have to do is fill out the Forgotten Password form, check
the confirmation code that gets sent to _my_ hotmail address, and then
suddenly I've got full control over the poor user's account and the
ability to spam all of their followers. Watch out, Ashton!
I can't believe that the Twitter API permits this, but doesn't allow
me to do something simple and useful like emailing the person a list
of their followers. Am I missing something?
Dave.
--
Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: Pull email address after authentication?
Yes, which is why I think it's silly that I can change their email
address but can't view it. I really think it should be the other way
around, don't you?.
Dave.
On Jul 8, 6:00 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
*Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me.*
Shouldn't you be applying the same logic to why they would trust you not to
update their email address?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 15:47, Dave Hensley davehens...@gmail.com wrote:
If a Twitter user has authenticated my app, is it possible for me to
view their email address?
From what I can tell through the O'Reilly book and Google searches,
the answer is currently no due to, I'm assuming, security
concerns... But I can think of several reasons why the user may want
to allow me to have this information. For example, they could use my
app to set up email alerts for themselves that would be triggered by
various events, or use it to send them compiled reports, etc. Being
able to read their email address could be very useful, and I would
love to have it as a feature in the API.
Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me. People put their email address
into forms all over the Internet all the time, probably hundreds of
times per year, so it seems silly for me not to be able to read it
even with the user's permission.
One feature that should _definitely_ be removed, however, is the
ability to _change_ the user's email addresss. For instance, if a
person authorizes my app and I do this:
$to-OAuthRequest('https://twitter.com/account/update_profile.xml',
array('email' = 'iame...@hotmail.com'), 'POST');
then all I have to do is fill out the Forgotten Password form, check
the confirmation code that gets sent to _my_ hotmail address, and then
suddenly I've got full control over the poor user's account and the
ability to spam all of their followers. Watch out, Ashton!
I can't believe that the Twitter API permits this, but doesn't allow
me to do something simple and useful like emailing the person a list
of their followers. Am I missing something?
Dave.
--
Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: Pull email address after authentication?
if we're going with shoulds, i think it should be both or neither.
personally, i'd like it to be both, with the option that the user be able to
completely hide his or her email address from everyone except the twitter
DB. i can see the obvious benefit to the current architecture though. i may
be in a situation -- say, on a smartphone -- where the twitter site doesn't
necessarily render well in my browser, but still want to update my email
address right there and then, or maybe I've got a desktop application and I
just don't want to fire up a browser. In either situation, I like the fact
that the API gives me a way to change my email address. It also prevents an
app owner from getting my email address without my explicit permission --
what is stopping you from simply asking users for their email address if
they want you to send them whatever data you want to send them?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 16:15, Dave Hensley davehens...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, which is why I think it's silly that I can change their email
address but can't view it. I really think it should be the other way
around, don't you?.
Dave.
On Jul 8, 6:00 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
*Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me.*
Shouldn't you be applying the same logic to why they would trust you not
to
update their email address?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 15:47, Dave Hensley davehens...@gmail.com
wrote:
If a Twitter user has authenticated my app, is it possible for me to
view their email address?
From what I can tell through the O'Reilly book and Google searches,
the answer is currently no due to, I'm assuming, security
concerns... But I can think of several reasons why the user may want
to allow me to have this information. For example, they could use my
app to set up email alerts for themselves that would be triggered by
various events, or use it to send them compiled reports, etc. Being
able to read their email address could be very useful, and I would
love to have it as a feature in the API.
Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me. People put their email address
into forms all over the Internet all the time, probably hundreds of
times per year, so it seems silly for me not to be able to read it
even with the user's permission.
One feature that should _definitely_ be removed, however, is the
ability to _change_ the user's email addresss. For instance, if a
person authorizes my app and I do this:
$to-OAuthRequest('https://twitter.com/account/update_profile.xml',
array('email' = 'iame...@hotmail.com'), 'POST');
then all I have to do is fill out the Forgotten Password form, check
the confirmation code that gets sent to _my_ hotmail address, and then
suddenly I've got full control over the poor user's account and the
ability to spam all of their followers. Watch out, Ashton!
I can't believe that the Twitter API permits this, but doesn't allow
me to do something simple and useful like emailing the person a list
of their followers. Am I missing something?
Dave.
--
Internets. Serious business.
--
Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] /search ending service for unsupported HTTP methods after July 15, 2009
The documentation for the /search method [1] specifies that all queries should be performed with an HTTP GET. On or after July 15, 2009, we will begin enforcing the use of HTTP GET for all queries. Requests sent to the /search method which are not performed with an HTTP GET will be met with an HTTP 403 response. Please check your code and make any necessary updates before this change is deployed. 1. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-Search-API-Method%3A-search Thanks, Doug
[twitter-dev] /search ending service for unsupported HTTP methods after July 15, 2009
The documentation for the /search method [1] specifies that all queries should be performed with an HTTP GET. On or after July 15, 2009, we will begin enforcing the use of HTTP GET for all queries. Requests sent to the /search method which are not performed with an HTTP GET will be met with an HTTP 403 response. Please check your code and make any necessary updates before this change is deployed. 1. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-Search-API-Method%3A-search Thanks, Doug
[twitter-dev] Re: Pull email address after authentication?
It is not possible to view a user's email address. Additionally, it is not
possible to perform a user lookup based on an email address. If you do not
trust an application enough to not change your email address, we suggest you
not use that application.
As always, please email a...@twitter.com if you have found an application
behaving poorly.
Thanks,
Doug
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
if we're going with shoulds, i think it should be both or neither.
personally, i'd like it to be both, with the option that the user be able to
completely hide his or her email address from everyone except the twitter
DB. i can see the obvious benefit to the current architecture though. i may
be in a situation -- say, on a smartphone -- where the twitter site doesn't
necessarily render well in my browser, but still want to update my email
address right there and then, or maybe I've got a desktop application and I
just don't want to fire up a browser. In either situation, I like the fact
that the API gives me a way to change my email address. It also prevents an
app owner from getting my email address without my explicit permission --
what is stopping you from simply asking users for their email address if
they want you to send them whatever data you want to send them?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 16:15, Dave Hensley davehens...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, which is why I think it's silly that I can change their email
address but can't view it. I really think it should be the other way
around, don't you?.
Dave.
On Jul 8, 6:00 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
*Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me.*
Shouldn't you be applying the same logic to why they would trust you not
to
update their email address?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 15:47, Dave Hensley davehens...@gmail.com
wrote:
If a Twitter user has authenticated my app, is it possible for me to
view their email address?
From what I can tell through the O'Reilly book and Google searches,
the answer is currently no due to, I'm assuming, security
concerns... But I can think of several reasons why the user may want
to allow me to have this information. For example, they could use my
app to set up email alerts for themselves that would be triggered by
various events, or use it to send them compiled reports, etc. Being
able to read their email address could be very useful, and I would
love to have it as a feature in the API.
Yes, I could also use it to send them spam, but that's why they should
block my app if they don't trust me. People put their email address
into forms all over the Internet all the time, probably hundreds of
times per year, so it seems silly for me not to be able to read it
even with the user's permission.
One feature that should _definitely_ be removed, however, is the
ability to _change_ the user's email addresss. For instance, if a
person authorizes my app and I do this:
$to-OAuthRequest('https://twitter.com/account/update_profile.xml',
array('email' = 'iame...@hotmail.com'), 'POST');
then all I have to do is fill out the Forgotten Password form, check
the confirmation code that gets sent to _my_ hotmail address, and then
suddenly I've got full control over the poor user's account and the
ability to spam all of their followers. Watch out, Ashton!
I can't believe that the Twitter API permits this, but doesn't allow
me to do something simple and useful like emailing the person a list
of their followers. Am I missing something?
Dave.
--
Internets. Serious business.
--
Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: updating follow/shadow/birddog list of users
Alexy, First, curl isn't the best approach for developing against the Streaming API. It's fine for prototyping, but it only goes so far. Yes, the comma separated list should be all on one line if you are using curl. If you want to change the user set, you should connect with the new set and then disconnect the old set immediately once the data starts to flow. This will be hard to coordinate using curl. In some cases, Twitter will throw the first user off once the second user connects. In other cases it will be more lenient. But, beware: if you want to avoid running into various abuse limits, you'd best be sure that your coordination between the first and second streams are quite solid and that the first stream is always terminated in a timely manner. You can also avoid data loss by using the count parameter, available on some, but not all, methods. Please email me with your use case and I'll forward it on to the Platform PM to help prioritize the better solution, as outlined by Alex. -John Kalucki twitter.com/jkalucki Services, Twitter Inc. On Jul 8, 12:17 pm, braver delivera...@gmail.com wrote: Uf you have thousands of users, do you really have to cook up a following file with comma-separated say 100,000 user IDs? Should it all be on one line? Now what happens if we want to drop some and add some IDs -- do we have to restart and re-upload all that list again? I see when the curl -d @following ... starts up, it does that. Restarting with huge lists sounds like data loss... Cheers, Alexy
[twitter-dev] Re: stopping bit.ly automatic shortening of urls
yes, twitter is after all a text based service. anyway, adding html to a tweet opens up a can of worms. it wont happen. it shouldnt happen. yes, twtr could provide, via the web UI at least, a way to add metadata to a tweet that is extra (not the text message itself, but associated data that can be exposed on certain UIs. but thats a different topic and i'd like to improve the current issue of short urling. also of interest - http://twitterdata.org On Jul 8, 4:42 pm, Joel Strellner j...@twitturly.com wrote: It goes back to the root of twitter originally being a SMS application. I recall hearing or reading someone on the Twitter team saying that. -Joel On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:31 PM, whoiskb whoi...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious if there has ever been an official response from twitter on why some simple HTML has not been allowed in a tweet? If we were able to use an anchor tag, and the HTML did not count against the 140 character limit, then the need for a URL shortener service would not be needed. On Jul 8, 10:27 am, sull sullele...@gmail.com wrote: ironically, my example urls are shortened here ;) On Jul 8, 12:20 pm, sull sullele...@gmail.com wrote: this is a topic of interest to me for a long while. been meaning to start a thread. i'm often bothered by the automatic shortening of urls when in fact the url does not need to be shortened. in these cases, i of course do not want to hide the real url by using a forced 3rd party service like bit.ly. i have use cases where all that is posted is a url. and the url includes a long detailed description of the link. this, in my opinion, is smart as the only object to maintain is the url itself which provides a hyperlink and a short message combined. sometimes, these use cases are using natural language vanity urls to form short sentences. ie.http://john.tot.al.ly/wiped-out-on-this-huge-wave-in-hawaii-at- the-Su... the other annoying thing that is related to the twitter UI is how long urls are cut-off//trimmed even if they dont need to be. the above example would be destroyed because it would result in something like: http://john.tot.al.ly/wip actually, i'm not certain if that is still the case as it seems to me that every url is shortened with bit.ly now. i grok the value in tracking urls and bit.ly may be bought by twitter at some point and this notion of url tracking will be fully integrated but the debate about url shortners in general how they can break the natural web, are vulnerable to massive broken links and simply thr cryptic format itself that hides the true location are all to be considered and continued to be debated. at the very least, 3rd party developers should get an override toggle. that is something i think we all need to start demanding. and yes, an official doc explaining the current and future impementations of url shortening on twitter is definitely needed now. http://plea.se/twitter-dont-shorten-this-url-with-bitly-since-it-does ... http://twitter.com/sull/status/2534470050 @sull On Jul 8, 4:50 am, Swaroop rh.swar...@gmail.com wrote: However, if you paste in a link that is less than 30 characters, we'll post it in its entirety. If it's longer than 30 characters, we'll convert it to a shorter URL. Source:http://help.twitter.com/portal
[twitter-dev] Changing domains for image hosting
Folks -- We are going to be moving images to a new domain (twimg.com) to streamline our image hosting and offer better performance. We hope this will have limited impact as will only change the image URL. Example URLs include: Profile images: http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/35240332/2929920.gif http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/35240332/2929920.gif Background images: http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_background_images/18156348/jessica_tiled.jpg.jpeg http://a0.twimg.com/profile_background_images/18156348/jessica_tiled.jpg.jpeg Thanks, Doug
[twitter-dev] Re: stopping bit.ly automatic shortening of urls
Yeh we have the same problem with www.LiveBaseballChat.com http://www.livebaseballchat.com/ Even though we keep the messages under 140 characters and put the CHurl links at the start of the message Twitter still truncates the urls into bitly links. which wouldn't be so bad if it was just a URL but our CHurls are structured links eg this fake link below. * http://www.livebaseballchat.com/CHurl/09/04/11/10/A1234F Made up of the following constitute parts URL/ Live Baseballchat.com CHurl/ Word 09/ Year 04/ Month 11/ Date 10/ Room number A1234FG/ Message number I'm hoping that eventually once Twitter starts offering commercial accounts that 'non bitly' truncation is one of the features that paid accounts will be able to pay for. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Inc d...@cognation.net mailto:d...@cognation.net +1-212-203-4357 New York +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). +44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial). From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Abraham Williams Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:11 AM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: stopping bit.ly automatic shortening of urls There is no way to turn URL shortening off. Two ways you could handle this though are: 1) Keep the URLs short enough that Twitter does not turn them into bitly links. I don't think the exact size/composition is published so you would have to experiment to see where that line is. 2) Shorten it yourself so you can control what comes after the /. It would not be a direct link but you could parse it. Abraham On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 06:42, infopete p...@infonote.com wrote: we're writing an application to do live gps tracking with Twitter. We'd like to be able to have a full url in a message which we could parse or use as a direct web link. GPS logging will be done on pocket pc based phones and we already have a test application available (Twittrack). We're extending the functionality of our silverlight application http://tweepware.infonote.com to be able to display live gps updates from Twitter. But.. When we post to Twitter using the api our url is always shrunk to a bit.ly url. How can we stop this? Regards Pete -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
[twitter-dev] Re: Changing domains for image hosting
Hi, Doug, Thanks for the heads up and all the hard work to keep us in the loop. Any plans to offer something like: http://twimg.com/pengwynn so people can always have my latest avatar regardless of the filename? Thanks, Wynn Netherland @pengwynn On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Folks -- We are going to be moving images to a new domain (twimg.com) to streamline our image hosting and offer better performance. We hope this will have limited impact as will only change the image URL. Example URLs include: Profile images: http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/35240332/2929920.gif http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/35240332/2929920.gif Background images: http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_background_images/18156348/jessica_tiled.jpg.jpeg http://a0.twimg.com/profile_background_images/18156348/jessica_tiled.jpg.jpeg Thanks, Doug -- Wynn Netherland twitter: pengwynn
[twitter-dev] Re: Pull email address after authentication?
On Jul 8, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Doug Williams wrote: It is not possible to view a user's email address. Additionally, it is not possible to perform a user lookup based on an email address. This is not entirely true, though can not be done through the API. I had friends find me on twitter, and for month, never knew why. It is quote simple to load an email into gmail, and add that to twitter and it will look up any user with that email. I wish this feature was able to be disabled. I have had to create a junk email account in twitter, just so I have some privacy. I get that the posts are not private, but I had an account that was not something I wanted people to connect with me. That is too late now. No where on the twitter Web site is it explained that your email address can be used as a way for users to locate you. I personally believe, this should be explained in detail on the join page where you enter in your email address. And I should be able to opt out of this feature. -- Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth and native clients
I'm going to 3rd Sebastian's POV. This is a serious problem that
needs to be addressed now. Mobile app developers want to integrate
their native apps with sites like Twitter and Facebook, but the
current user experience is so unacceptable that no one is going to use
it in its current form.
For more on the topic:
http://www.hueniverse.com/hueniverse/2009/02/beyond-the-oauth-web-redirection-flow.html
Kudos to the Twitter team for actually starting to think about a
reasonable solution to this problem. Facebook has the Connect for
iPhone library, but even that is just their terrible JavaScript-based
Connect login shown in an embedded browser. And forget about trying
to authenticate with Facebook from something like a BlackBerry app.
We are anxiously awaiting a OAuth for Mobile option for the Twitter
API (as are a lot of other developers). Our app missed the from
[MyApplication] using Basic Auth cutoff so now every status update we
push says from Twitter4J... not the best for marketing purposes. We
would also love not having to store passwords on the device and send
them over the wire every time a user clicks the Share button.
On Jun 30, 4:42 pm, morefromalan sbal...@gmail.com wrote:
Just wanted to second Sebastian's POV here. UserExperience is a key
revenue driver for us, andOAuthfor nativemobileapps is really
painful for the user.
On Jun 19, 5:41 am, Sebastian sdelm...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the pointer... I did some searches, but they were all
focused onmobileclients.
In my case, I'm not worried about the complexity of implementing
OAuth. I can deal with that, and once it's done, it's gone from the
picture. It's the user experience that worries me, as exposed on that
thread by the TTYtter example.
Well, since people are asking, the workflow doesn't significantly
differ
from otherOAuthapplications and depends on the fact that access
tokens
don't expire. When people start TTYtter up for the first time without
an
access token (or TTYtter tries the access token and it fails), it asks
for
the usual request token, prints the access URL with the request token
it
wants the user to authorize, and waits for the user to authorize.
Twitter,
presumably, will say, ok, tell your program to continue. Back on
TTYtter's
side, the user hits ENTER, and TTYtter exchanges its request token for
an
access token *and caches it* once it has verified it can successfully
hit
the user timeline for data. So far, this is not significantly
different than
any otherOAuthapp.
Is there any other way to doOAuthand at the same time, behave like a
sensible application?
Could Twitter implement a basic auth api call to perform theoauth
authorization in the first place? Such a call would only be allowed
from clients that prove they need it, and could be revoked for rogue
clients. I know this lowers the security ofOAuth, but it only
officializes a hack many apps will try to implement.
On Jun 19, 12:39 am, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote:
Or is the door for basic auth really closing forever?
This has been discussed in a number of threads and an exact determination
has not yet been made. However, this might give you some context:
http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread...
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[twitter-dev] Re: Changing domains for image hosting
Andrew Stone asked a great question off list and I wanted to share the answer here. Images will be hosted from a number of sub-domains of twimg.com. Therefore you should not expect all images to be served from a0.twimg.com as in the examples provided, but instead should expect an aribitrary sub-domain (*.twimg.com). Thanks, Doug On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Folks -- We are going to be moving images to a new domain (twimg.com) to streamline our image hosting and offer better performance. We hope this will have limited impact as will only change the image URL. Example URLs include: Profile images: http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/35240332/2929920.gif http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/35240332/2929920.gif Background images: http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_background_images/18156348/jessica_tiled.jpg.jpeg http://a0.twimg.com/profile_background_images/18156348/jessica_tiled.jpg.jpeg Thanks, Doug
