Re: [videoblogging] Tags
If you use the relTag format then your posts will show up as tagged in Technorati and a few other search engines. The new FireAnt directory will soon be recognizing relTag as well... in due time. The relTag syntax is super easy and very well explained over here: http://www.technorati.com/help/tags.html -Josh On 1/20/06, Rob Parrish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all: I would love someone to hold forth on tags. I understand how tags work on mefeedia, but what about imbedding tags into the intro text of our posts? Of the vlogs I frequent it doesn't seem anyone is using them. That is, I don't see them on people's sites. Should we be tagging our posts? If so, how? Rob Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Freevlog to Wordpress instruction tweak???
I know this is possibly not gonna help at all, but if you want to play your video on line and not make a link for feedburner for itunes or fireant, post you video to Dailymotion or Youtube, then blog from there and they will put a flash version of your video straight on your site, Ummm... yeah, see that's the problem. No feed. No iTunes. No FireAnt. No viewing experience other than an embedded Flash player on your site. That's a serious limitation. -josh On 1/18/06, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is possibly not gonna help at all, but if you want to play your video on line and not make a link for feedburner for itunes or fireant, post you video to Dailymotion or Youtube, then blog from there and they will put a flash version of your video straight on your site, a lot of people are doing it, because it is really simple. The sites tell you how to and Dailymotion all you need is you site url and they do the rest for you. Paul On 19 Jan 2006, at 01:37, john coffey wrote: To Michael Verdi, Ryanne and Jay, your Freevlog is just such an immense help with getting my vlog up, almost... I've shot the stuff, encoded it, done a screen shot too! But Michaels example of uploading to Blogger is leaving me a little lost with uploading to Wordpress. Wordpress 2.0 has an image button but I cant seem to get a Quicktime embedded. Any help from the Vlog group would be so helpful to this Mac head! John www.jchtv.com Yahoo! Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vlog http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com It's worth a laugh and work friendly. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
Not so fast there... Windows Media ain't going away anytime soon. You wanna know why? Two reasons: - Its much easier to create Windows Media on PCs than it is to create Quicktime (just ask any of the Windows users here what they've had to go through). - DRM. Imagine you are a hollywood studio. You want to sell content on the web but you want to make sure that your content is protected. Windows Media is your only choice because Apple does not license their DRM. So there you go... don't expect WMV to fade into the distance quietly. In fact, the Flip4Mac plugin may provide a better viewing experience for Mac users than the woefully out-of-date wmv plugin. Just because you have to download it separately now doesn't mean that will always be the case. I'm sure it will begin to be bundled with other downloads and Microsoft products... -Josh On 1/19/06, Mike Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft just announced officially that they're dropping development of Windows Media for Macintosh. Meanwhile, Macs recently passed 5% market share for PCs. They almost doubled market share right before switching microprocessor platforms, a time when nearly everyone expected their share to dip. Thus, I'd say it's clear that Mac is headed for upper single digits, if not double-digits. As any Mac user will tell you, videos that require Windows Media (usually .wmv's) either don't work at all on a Mac (e.g. CNN) or they work in a really weird way that looks like an error (e.g. blip.tv). So, for a segment of the user population that is 5% and growing fast, the Windows Media experience is bad and will surely get worse since Microsoft isn't developing Windows Media for Mac anymore. (Their suggestion - to use Flip4Mac - is *totally* lame. Can you see your mom downloading and installing Flip4Mac to watch a video?) My conclusion is that any site based on this lame format is, well, lame for using it. As the Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will be dropped by many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
NO, popup blockers do not block popups that you explicitly click to activate. Popup blockers only block popups that launch on the page load, but not upon clicking a link. -Josh On 1/19/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, pop-ups are no longer assumed reliable. Firefox and Safari have pop-up blockers built in and many Windows users have the Google Toolbar installed. A better way is for each video to have its own page, along with searchable words like a headline and description. Just because you are linking to that page using a pop-off does not mean that Google or anyone else will. It is a standalone page - a pop-off is an attempt to control use. Embedding a video into a normal story page works nicely. What blogging software are you using? -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will pop up blockers stop it? The only reason (other than laziness) I haven't tried. --- Brett Gaylor http://www.etherworks.ca http://www.homelessnation.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
Also, to point something out... the popup script I wrote still makes a direct link to the media file so that spiders and services like FeedBurner are still able to access the media. Check the code. I wrote it for exactly this purpose... interoperability. It is not used as a tactic to control the media when used this way. There is nothing hidden. -Josh On 1/19/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO, popup blockers do not block popups that you explicitly click to activate. Popup blockers only block popups that launch on the page load, but not upon clicking a link. -Josh On 1/19/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, pop-ups are no longer assumed reliable. Firefox and Safari have pop-up blockers built in and many Windows users have the Google Toolbar installed. A better way is for each video to have its own page, along with searchable words like a headline and description. Just because you are linking to that page using a pop-off does not mean that Google or anyone else will. It is a standalone page - a pop-off is an attempt to control use. Embedding a video into a normal story page works nicely. What blogging software are you using? -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will pop up blockers stop it? The only reason (other than laziness) I haven't tried. --- Brett Gaylor http://www.etherworks.ca http://www.homelessnation.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
or ala the millions of Ray's Pizzas here in NYC: The original Blip.tv or the famous blip.tv. famous original Blip.tv :-) -Josh On 1/18/06, monika_lyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or ala the millions of Ray's Pizzas here in NYC: The original Blip.tv or the famous blip.tv. Monika http://nurse2be.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: worse case, change your name to BlipBlip.TV On 1/18/06, mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Yes, we do allow people to upload video from cell phones. Both companies have trademarks pending. We're going to work on it, and that's about the best I can say right now. Yours, Mike --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it enough separation that one company targets mobile users and the other is for desktop citizens? Blip.tv also supports mobile uploads. I wouldn't say its only for desktop citizens. -Josh On 1/17/06, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, well I guess it will remain a mystery to me. I'm using Fedora Core 4/Linux and haven't figured out how to install the Flash plug-in which is at the front door of this site. I have questions about the name, has our Blip.tv been trademarked protected? Has it been established longer that the new media delivery company? Is it enough separation that one company targets mobile users and the other is for desktop citizens? Is a lay jury gonna see it that way? Jeepers, what a pickle! Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
Is it enough separation that one company targets mobile users and the other is for desktop citizens? Blip.tv also supports mobile uploads. I wouldn't say its only for desktop citizens. -Josh On 1/17/06, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, well I guess it will remain a mystery to me. I'm using Fedora Core 4/Linux and haven't figured out how to install the Flash plug-in which is at the front door of this site. I have questions about the name, has our Blip.tv been trademarked protected? Has it been established longer that the new media delivery company? Is it enough separation that one company targets mobile users and the other is for desktop citizens? Is a lay jury gonna see it that way? Jeepers, what a pickle! Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Why pack them all together into a 15 min. video?Why not let them each exist as separate videos that can be downloaded quicker and easier? You may as well simply link to the originals too in order to credit the creators. -joshOn 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 15 minute video, every business day, with a variety of short segments.Some of it is created specifically for The PAN, some of it is found material, usually found on static sites without blogs.It's a pretty long video for web-viewing, and wasn't intended to be such. We decided to include a download link on the page though so people (like you) could try before they buy (or get for free). It isn't designed to be a video blog, although it turned out looking a lot like one. It's for video gadgets and so such and so forth.We heard they needed some content.On 1/16/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:55:57 +0100, MICA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * * http://thepan.org/home.html Since the site is void of any explanatory details and the daily video download is 77MB (thus requiring a 12 minute wait for yours truly) I must ask: What *is* the pan? A videoblog with Really Big Files (tm)? Content created by contributors or content found by contributors? - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
Christian, it's in the non-public beta, which rumors say will be released soon. Will be released publicly very soon. New Windows version and Website too! Its a big update. We've been working hard but have been a little quiet about it here in this group. -Josh On 1/16/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian, it's in the non-public beta, which rumors say will be released soon. Email Jay Dedman if you can beta-test for them. On 1/16/06, Christian Wach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Jan 2006, at 12:06, duncan wrote: although now the mac version has browsing things could be getting better for me It does?? Not here - 1.0 b3 - and the FireANT website isn't offering a newer version as far as I can tell... do tell! Christian Yahoo! Groups Links -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Ps. Josh, or any other FireANTers reading this, is there a one-click FireANT subscription mechanism? Or will there be? There is, and there will be an easy code-generator to copy-paste and embed a 1-click button into your site. We're gearing up for a new launch this week that will include new versions for Mac and Windows plus a new Website. -Josh On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I crashed after replying to the last one. Awake again... On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why pack them all together into a 15 min. video? For context, and ease of use for the viewer. The stuff we include all looks really good together, one right after the other. And on my iPod, if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch the next segment? That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can easily skip a segment if they wish. Although I'm not so sure it will function on the iPod. The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. Why not let them each exist as separate videos that can be downloaded quicker and easier? You may as well simply link to the originals too in order to credit the creators. That's been done. Ps. Josh, or any other FireANTers reading this, is there a one-click FireANT subscription mechanism? Or will there be? Thanks for feedback on this, by the way. AQ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human-Dog, etc. Not true. Rocketboom makes great use of text. There are always story links for every episode. Textual descriptors, links, references. This has been RB's presentation from day one. Outbound links help build traffic and the text makes the entries more searchable. RB also uses QT chapter tracks to easily skip around within the video to the desired story link. I think Bottom Union and Human Dog could make much better use of text. I've never been quite sure why they don't. -Josh On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human-Dog, etc. haven't seemed to have had a problem with a lack of text. We provide a list of the individual creators featured in the video, with links, so that's enough to get you started. But like I said, time will tell... Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Right, totally. It just so happens that this 15 minutes is a video doppelganger of what's going on inside my head a lot of the time, so it's a blast for me to watch it, and I usually want it to run longer when I see it. It's an interesting combination of content. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
I mean, in theory, if we're talking faster and fatter pipes, won't file size limitations be a thing of the past? -josh On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is downloading management which is most valuable if the video is larger (download overnight or while doing other things). if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy watching videos on the web, no? No. I am a fan of small chunks... but lots of them from lots of different places and the ability to easily switch between them and manipulate them, etc. Viewing video on the web never seems to allow me to interact this way. -Josh On 1/16/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is downloading management which is most valuable if the video is larger (download overnight or while doing other things). if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy watching videos on the web, no? if your point is about attention span... ok. but it seems that adam made the point that this content will continue to be grabbed by a trusted audience who would love nothing more than content to fill their commute. short, long... whatever. its not even worth debating since the wide audience consists of many different preferences. why ask why and all that. sull On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For context, and ease of use for the viewer. But I don't know what's included in the 15 minutes and can't choose whether or not I want to download it or view it in that order I am a fan of smaller chunks. if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch the next segment? That seems like an iPod issue. I don't have one, but I'm surprised it doesn't skip to the next video track in a playlist? That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can easily skip a segment if they wish. Although I'm not so sure it will function on the iPod. That would be cool if this feature were supported on the iPod. The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] youtube / flickr reportage
This trend is easily chalked up to the SNL Lazy Sunday clip, wich was probably viewed a few million times through YouTube in the span of a week and a half. Of course, YouTube should not have allowed this clip to remain on their servers as its obviously copyright infringement. I would doubt that YouTube cleared the rights with NBC to broadcast the clip. Simply waiting for a cease and desist order isn't really a great way for the YouTubes of the world to look at the issue. They knew the clip was generating huge interest and the traffic was certainly a benefit to them. This is not a good message for sites that try to legitimately clear the rights to broadcast content and provide proper policing to comply with legal standards. I know you can't always police every bit of user generated content on some of these sites, but this incident was obvious. -Josh On 1/16/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can this reportage re youtube and flickr be accurate, that's one steep curve, eh? http://www.technoogle.com/?p=342 -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively My Vlog: http://r.24x7.com Get A Good Deal: http://foo.24x7.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
I really should make something similar to that plugin to handle MRSS. I've wanted to for a long time but have been waiting on the Microformat crowd to approve some kind of standard for media. -Josh On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/16/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh Kinberg hacked MTEnclosures a long time ago into a MTRelEnclosure plugin. That version only made enclosures out of links that had rel=enclosure and nothing else. Seems like it's what you're looking for. And I've been using that since December 2004 on Bullemhead. I'm just an idiot. Thanks for the reminder Andreas. And thanks for making that thing Josh. It's really the only thing I've found to make valid feeds with MT if you have more than one media item in a post. AQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. I think its getting a little better, but its still far from good. Remember though, this is a very new direction for Goog. This is their first real attempt at e-commerce. This is also the first Google Search product that only searches Google's resources... expect similar from Google Base. This is a very interesting shift in strategy for Goog since all other search products are defined by their usefulness in their ability to link outbound from Google. Right now I think the Google Video Store interface needs a lot of work. It is also drastically lacking in terms of mainstream content. Let's compare, Apple started their video store with Desperate Housewives, Lost, and videos from U2 and Madonna. Google started theirs with CSI (okay), old Charlie Rose episodes, and old Brady Bunch episodes. Perhaps the thought of non-mainstream content providers setting their own price for download is attractive... we'll have to wait and see. But I'm told that the purchased videos from Google (I haven't attempted yet) only play in a special Google Video player and are not interoperable with any other media players. To me, this makes the value of their video offering significantly less... I'd be buying something that's designed to be broken (thank you DRM). Now, if I bought something that I could burn to a DVD (fair use if just fo me), shift to my TV somehow, put on my iPod or PSP, etc, then that would be of value. But here's the deal. Google has the luxury of time. They'll get better. They have a history of doing this. Starting with an initial crappy offering and then improving as they go. They've got enough money and engineering talent to see it through. So I guess we just have to wait and see. I agree with you though, I don't see this as being of much real use to videobloggers. -Josh On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Josh, Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. It seems to be moving in the right direction. It's still of no practical use to vloggers since you can't enclose a link to a video, but it's no longer quite the media trap it once was, and the potential for anyone to sell videos through it means it could be very accessible and long tail... not just a marketplace for hollywood content. More below. On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: apparently the videos you can purchase through Google Video Store aren't made to be played in common media players. Here's a hack to download AVI versions of the videos: http://www.querocarromogi.com/videogoogle/ I'm not sure about pay only' videos... very interested to hear more, but for free videos if you choose download for ipod or PSP you get a portable standard format mp4 you can take anywhere or do anything with. Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? -Mike -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -Josh On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: With the latest itunes 6.02 or whatever the latest version is, theres a new option if you right-click on a video, 'convert selection for ipod'. Bit of a stupid choice of words that, but it works, probably uses the quicktime 7.0.4 ipod export as its about the same speed, so its creating baseline h264 m4v's. No crap? You sure? You know they've had this feature for mp3's forever... I use it all the time for taking an MOV of a speach or presentation and converting it to an mp3... but I didn't expect it to ever do video. Are you sure it does video? I won't believe it to I see it... my system is updating right now, I will try soon. I havent tried it too much so far, and I havent worked out if itunes can be set to do this stuff automatically, but hey its progress I guess. People can convert to ipod format without buying quicktime pro (I think) and if your videos can be made to show up in itunes, you know people now have a way to get them to their ipods even if you arent using an ipod compatible format. I'm not so sure about this... I think you're falsely raising my hopes.. and I'm going to have to go back to using iSquint. :( This applies to Mac PC versions. Steve of Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) Well, its nice enough that I don't have to write my own application or script just to access most of the essential features of the QT API... like exporting video. -Josh On 1/15/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
right... you had to drag the stuff in and it automatically converts. But it still had to convert. Its just that the interface was simple and intuitive. I would think that iTunes will try to make the process roughly the same for video on the iPod. -Josh On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh I put the CD in my drive, the songs appear in iTunes with the CD icon. I drag the songs to the Library. They automaticaly convert. When I plugin my iPod the songs automaticaly update to the iPod. No additional codecs to run, no outside software to figure out through manuals or website instructions. Insert, drag, plugin -- standard and mainly intuitive human actions. -- Enric On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
I wish there were better answers to standardization of formats in the video space. Unfortunately I really don't see an end to it. Mp4 is hardly much of a standard. There are many derivaitons of mp4 and different codecs that can be contained in mp4 that are not yet compatible everywhere (h.264 for example). Also, mp4 is a patented technology (so is mp3, BTW), so that means that any application that encodes mp4 is generally liable to pay license royalties to mpeg-LA. Does that mean that non-patent-encumbered technologies will lead the way? Doubtful... Ogg really hasn't caught on yet as an audio format (well, maybe it hasn't caught on because its not supported on the iPod). The only video formats that I know of that are open-source and non-patent-encumbered are Theora and Dirac, neither of which are really used at all. -Josh On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: right... you had to drag the stuff in and it automatically converts. But it still had to convert. Its just that the interface was simple and intuitive. I would think that iTunes will try to make the process roughly the same for video on the iPod. -Josh The only problem with this ease of use and transparency is video conversion is VERY processor intensive and can in fact take DAYS for say a DVD and hours for a simple podcast. It's not apple that's being a tyrant it's simple technical issues... it's not that the end device shouldn't transcode to the proper format it's that sometimes it simply can't. Anyway, all this such will be offset by a slow standardization on a format like mp3, perhaps that will be mp4. Any guesses? -Mike On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh I put the CD in my drive, the songs appear in iTunes with the CD icon. I drag the songs to the Library. They automaticaly convert. When I plugin my iPod the songs automaticaly update to the iPod. No additional codecs to run, no outside software to figure out through manuals or website instructions. Insert, drag, plugin -- standard and mainly intuitive human actions. -- Enric On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] the clerks videoblog
The Kevin Smith videoblog was posted here in this group a long time ago. Here it is back on Oct. 3, 2005: http://groups.google.com/group/videoblogging/browse_thread/thread/ef267ef8fdacdf81/08abebdf2a6e5329?q=kevin+smithrnum=1#08abebdf2a6e5329 -Josh On 1/15/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;) On 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
a lot of people seem to download Democracy Now, which is roughly an hour and usually something around 120 MB. Personally, I can't watch anything much over 3 minutes, whether its a vlog or a TV show. I really don't like to see vlog entries that are more than 30 MB. Again, this is simply a personal preference and is in no way a guideline. -Josh On 1/15/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] re: http://youare.tv/
All I'm saying is let's give them the opportunity to make adjustments now that the issue has been brought up. Its probably not something the service owners thought much about. Its likely they simply copied it from somewhere else. Rather than continue to jump on them here, let's give them the opportunity to make changes... they've listened and responded to the feedback here and that's a good first start. They have said they will revise the TOS and as yet I have no reason to believe otherwise. -Josh On 1/14/06, JD Lasica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, nice spending time with ya this week, but when you write: let's cut the guy a break. He's listening and interacting here. That's the first step. Legaleze like Terms Of Service agreements are hard to write. Nobody knows what to do here, and paying lawyers to do this gets expensive... and the lawyers can often come up with some draconian stuff anyway. Usually people just copy TOS from other sites just to get it up and get going. They often don't think about it and the users don't often read it. Not so fast. Look at Ourmedia's Terms of Service: http://www.ourmedia.org/rules The first line says: 1. You own your own material. Ourmedia claims no intellectual property rights over the material you provide to our service. Simple, straightforward. Who wrote it? Me, someone with no law degree. Sure, a lawyer reviewed it afterward, but what your enterprise stands for has to come down from the top. Too many of us don't bother to read site TOS because we're trusting, or think it won't affect us. We need to get educated and push back whenever we see outrageous terms such as these. Public exposure, criticism and even ridicule are the first steps toward that end. If I recall correctly, members of this list pushed back at BlipTV over its original TOS, and they quickly revised them. Let's see what YouAre.tv does in response. But I'd be surprised if they follow Ourmedia's example. jd lasica ourmedia Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] itunes:block in wordpress / feedburner - how?
do you want to remove the entire feed from iTunes directory, or just a single item? -J On 1/13/06, Christian Wach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Jan 2006, at 02:55, R. Kristiansen wrote: i need to remove a wordpress rss feed that goes through feedburner from the iTunes music store. how do I do that? iTunes tells me to use itunes:block - how do I Actually do this? From the docs: itunes:block Use this inside a channel element to prevent the entire podcast from appearing in the iTunes Podcast directory. Use this inside an item element to prevent that episode from appearing in the iTunes Podcast directory. For example, you may want a specific episode blocked from iTunes if it's content might cause the feed to be removed from iTunes http://phobos.apple.com/static/iTunesRSS.html Wouldn't know how to do this through Feedburner as I've never used it - I'd recommend using Garrick Van Buren's WP-iPodCatter Plugin instead: http://garrickvanburen.com/wpipodcatter/ It'll give you complete control over the RSS feed. No need for the Feedburner middleman. HTH, Christian -- Christian Wach Current Location: Bristol, UK Football: http://spiritoffootball.com Homepage: http://haystack.co.uk Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging with Flash
commercial use of this stuff ain't cheap. I've looked into it too. Depends though.. everything's a negotiation. Its certainly less expensive to license this encoding technology on the server side (one license) than to do so for a client side application (license to distribute multiple copies). -Josh On 1/13/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to the videoEgg people at the Meet the Vloggers in San Francisco on Monday 1/9/06. I was you can license the Flash encoding technology from ON2. That there's a developer version for $50 and a much more expensive license for commercial release: http://www.on2.com/developer/flash8sdk/ So encoding, playing and new features are allowed by Macromedia through those who make the encoding with a license purchase. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com Determine Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've been through this before. I distribute my SWF files via RSS without trouble. They get downloaded plenty. deirdre...maybe the better way to put it is this. Flash is a fine format..and can be distributed in RSS feeds. but Macromedia needs to do some education if they want it used by creators. For the most part, Flash is being used to protect video...and most video services using flash do not let the Flash be downloaded through feeds. (see Youtube.com) Flash also cannot take advantage of syncing to devices until a Flash iPod is created or transcoding becomes common. Flash is also not the easiest to create. it is not standard in most editing tools that i know of. Macromedia(which owns Flash) does prohibit encoding and playing in flash format: http://www.macromedia.com/licensing/developer/fileformat/faq/#item-1-8 Q. Can I use the File Format Specification to create a SWF interpreter or player? A. No, the File Format Specification is provided for the specific purpose of enabling software applications to export to the Macromedia Flash File Format (SWF). Q.Can I use the File Format Specification to create a Flash Video encoder or a Flash Video streaming service? A. No, the File Format Specification is provided for the specific purpose of enabling software applications to export to the Macromedia Flash File Format (SWF). Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: wmv from quicktime, for free
Have you been able to export the whole movie to WMV with Quicktime? I think it exports the first 10 sec. or so as a trial, but you need to upgrade to Flip4Mac Studio to be able to really export WMV (that costs $99 if I recall... if that's free now then I will definitely be contacting them for my money back as I bought a license several months ago). -Josh On 1/13/06, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those like me trying do make wmv, and don´t want to touch win machines (I think quicktime pro is needed) http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/flip4mac.mspx That particular app is a plug-in to QuickTime for playback. If you want to create WMV, you need to purchase on of the Flip4Mac authoring tools. Jake Ludington You don´t. I installed the free plug-in, and am able to export wmv. I´ve got Quicktime Pro, and that is needed I think. Something strange happens tough, when opening wmv, the files are converted in some way, and get a bit bigger... Miguel. http://graodegente.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: http://youare.tv/
Okay all... this is great feedback, but seriously let's cut the guy a break. He's listening and interacting here. That's the first step. Legaleze like Terms Of Service agreements are hard to write. Nobody knows what to do here, and paying lawyers to do this gets expensive... and the lawyers can often come up with some draconian stuff anyway. Usually people just copy TOS from other sites just to get it up and get going. They often don't think about it and the users don't often read it. Good sleuthing and great feedback. Now let's give this site/service a chance to respond and improve. -Josh On 1/13/06, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You think it, nurse it, produce it and, if you so choose to, upload to this services you lose all of your rights to your creation? YouAre.TV a worldwide, non-exclusive, fully paid-up, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, perform and otherwise exploit the User Submissions in connection with the YouAre.TV Website and YouAre.TV's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouAre.TV Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. But anyone else can come to the site, snag your work, create mash-ups/alterations/what-not and there is no penalty (to them) or compensation (to you) as the creator? You also hereby grant each user of the YouAre.TV Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service... Where is the anal lube cuz this is nothing but another company setting up folks to get reamed. This is how the blues recording artists got ripped off, this is how modern day musicians are getting ripped off and it makes me angry. Maybe as part of our videoblogging education process we need to start talking about the assignment of rights and full understanding of what you, I and collectively we are stepping into. It doesn't matter if the lawyer made them do it or there is similar wording on other sites. It is wrong, wrong, wrong to take another's work, use it to generate viewers and income and then not cut the creator in for a slice. And to stop the tangents and comparisons to music before it starts I am specifically talking about video and videoblogging web hosting companies. Forget the lube, these folks would use Crisco. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone tried this one yet? http://youare.tv/? -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively My Vlog: http://r.24x7.com A Good Deal: http://foo.24x7.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging with Flash
that's true. Adobe does own Macromedia. Not sure what changes you're expecting though. -J On 1/13/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that Adobe bought Macromedia (http://tinyurl.com/dsd82)...maybe they'll change it up a bit? On 1/13/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: commercial use of this stuff ain't cheap. I've looked into it too. Depends though.. everything's a negotiation. Its certainly less expensive to license this encoding technology on the server side (one license) than to do so for a client side application (license to distribute multiple copies). -Josh On 1/13/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to the videoEgg people at the Meet the Vloggers in San Francisco on Monday 1/9/06. I was you can license the Flash encoding technology from ON2. That there's a developer version for $50 and a much more expensive license for commercial release: http://www.on2.com/developer/flash8sdk/ So encoding, playing and new features are allowed by Macromedia through those who make the encoding with a license purchase. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com Determine Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've been through this before. I distribute my SWF files via RSS without trouble. They get downloaded plenty. deirdre...maybe the better way to put it is this. Flash is a fine format..and can be distributed in RSS feeds. but Macromedia needs to do some education if they want it used by creators. For the most part, Flash is being used to protect video...and most video services using flash do not let the Flash be downloaded through feeds. (see Youtube.com) Flash also cannot take advantage of syncing to devices until a Flash iPod is created or transcoding becomes common. Flash is also not the easiest to create. it is not standard in most editing tools that i know of. Macromedia(which owns Flash) does prohibit encoding and playing in flash format: http://www.macromedia.com/licensing/developer/fileformat/faq/#item-1-8 Q. Can I use the File Format Specification to create a SWF interpreter or player? A. No, the File Format Specification is provided for the specific purpose of enabling software applications to export to the Macromedia Flash File Format (SWF). Q.Can I use the File Format Specification to create a Flash Video encoder or a Flash Video streaming service? A. No, the File Format Specification is provided for the specific purpose of enabling software applications to export to the Macromedia Flash File Format (SWF). Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging with Flash
I think the whole argument that Flash has the most ubiquity is a bit of a myth. Rocketboom has always been embedded Quicktime. They have a huge daily audience. No one ever complains that they can't see the Quicktime video. Of course they provide other formats too because some people prefer them. Honestly, the myth that Quicktime isn't supported is more because people use Internet Explorer on Windows, which sort of sabotages Quicktime playback (it will not fast start quicktime unless it is properly embedded in an HTML page). My answer to this is to use pop-up windows with the video embedded, and I wrote a simple code generator so that people can do it easily: http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Try it, enter the URL of a video file, add some of the other info if you want and watch what happens. The link will pop up a small window with the video embedded. It works for Windows Media too. I could probably add FLV support as well, just haven't taken the time to do it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging with Flash
Did you embed the Quicktime videos in HTML? If you link directly to the video file the way FreeVlog suggests, then you will definitely hear complaints about people not being able to see your video. If you use an embedded player, or a popup window with an embedded player, as I suggest, its likely you won't hear the complaints. This is an Internet Explorer issue, not a Quicktime issue. Quicktime is just as easy to install as Flash. And the adoption rates of Flash 7-8 are highly exaggerated. You need the most recent version of Flash plugin to see most Flash video, which requires an upgrade -- no different than requiring viewers to have QT, which they probably already have anyway. -Josh On 1/12/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to post only in Quicktime. I got a lot of feedback saying that people couldn't see my videos. Well maybe not a lot. But a few. My mom, my buddy who has a Win98 machine a few others. Mostly people who know me. I would suspect that there were more that I didn't hear from as well. Especially since I don't hear from 90% or more of the visitors to my site. I would bet that it's safe to guess that most people who can't view my videos never even think to tell me about it. I also know that there are a lot of people who watch my videos on their work computers. I work in a large corporate environment, we don't have Quicktime installed on our machines, but we do have flash. We aren't allowed to install Quicktime either. This isn't a unique situation. And I would bet that the reason RocketBoom doesn't have any complaints is because they do offer multiple formats. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the whole argument that Flash has the most ubiquity is a bit of a myth. Rocketboom has always been embedded Quicktime. They have a huge daily audience. No one ever complains that they can't see the Quicktime video. Of course they provide other formats too because some people prefer them. Honestly, the myth that Quicktime isn't supported is more because people use Internet Explorer on Windows, which sort of sabotages Quicktime playback (it will not fast start quicktime unless it is properly embedded in an HTML page). My answer to this is to use pop-up windows with the video embedded, and I wrote a simple code generator so that people can do it easily: http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Try it, enter the URL of a video file, add some of the other info if you want and watch what happens. The link will pop up a small window with the video embedded. It works for Windows Media too. I could probably add FLV support as well, just haven't taken the time to do it. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging with Flash - nice pop-up generator!
The PHP script is really simple. If you have any basic scripting experience it should be a cake-walk. I was going to include it in the Vlogging Hacks book, but then that got cancelled. It may be included in one of the other Vlogging books that either Jay, or Ryanne and Verdi are working on. I can send it to you offlist... I haven't looked at it in a while and I don't really have time to provide much support. -Josh On 1/12/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh -- I like that pop-up generator! I switched from QT to Flash 8 as my primary format, but I'd like to offer other options via pop-up windows. Your solution is just what I was thinking about. Is the PHP script available? Thanks... joe http://www.hotbizz.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the whole argument that Flash has the most ubiquity is a bit of a myth. Rocketboom has always been embedded Quicktime. They have a huge daily audience. No one ever complains that they can't see the Quicktime video. Of course they provide other formats too because some people prefer them. Honestly, the myth that Quicktime isn't supported is more because people use Internet Explorer on Windows, which sort of sabotages Quicktime playback (it will not fast start quicktime unless it is properly embedded in an HTML page). My answer to this is to use pop-up windows with the video embedded, and I wrote a simple code generator so that people can do it easily: http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Try it, enter the URL of a video file, add some of the other info if you want and watch what happens. The link will pop up a small window with the video embedded. It works for Windows Media too. I could probably add FLV support as well, just haven't taken the time to do it. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging with Flash - nice pop-up generator!
Eh, whatever... I'll send this to the group.
Here's the php script (attached .txt file... just rename to .php).
Feel free to add in the embed code for SWF and FLV.
If you have any scripting experience this should be really straightforward.
Enjoy!
-Josh
-- Forwarded message --
From: Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jan 12, 2006 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging with Flash - nice pop-up generator!
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
The PHP script is really simple. If you have any basic scripting
experience it should be a cake-walk. I was going to include it in the
Vlogging Hacks book, but then that got cancelled. It may be included
in one of the other Vlogging books that either Jay, or Ryanne and
Verdi are working on.
I can send it to you offlist... I haven't looked at it in a while and
I don't really have time to provide much support.
-Josh
On 1/12/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Josh --
I like that pop-up generator!
I switched from QT to Flash 8 as my primary format,
but I'd like to offer other options via pop-up windows.
Your solution is just what I was thinking about.
Is the PHP script available?
Thanks...
joe
http://www.hotbizz.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I think the whole argument that Flash has the most ubiquity is a bit of a
myth.
Rocketboom has always been embedded Quicktime. They have a huge daily
audience.
No one ever complains that they can't see the Quicktime video. Of
course they provide other formats too because some people prefer them.
Honestly, the myth that Quicktime isn't supported is more because
people use Internet Explorer on Windows, which sort of sabotages
Quicktime playback (it will not fast start quicktime unless it is
properly embedded in an HTML page). My answer to this is to use pop-up
windows with the video embedded, and I wrote a simple code generator
so that people can do it easily:
http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker
Try it, enter the URL of a video file, add some of the other info if
you want and watch what happens. The link will pop up a small window
with the video embedded. It works for Windows Media too. I could
probably add FLV support as well, just haven't taken the time to do
it.
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?php
if ($_GET['url'])
$url = $_GET['url'];
if ($_GET['size'])
$size = $_GET['size'];
else
$size = 320;
$width = $size;
$height = round(($size/4)*3);
// get file extension
$url_array = split(/, $url);
$filename = $url_array[sizeof($url_array)-1];
$file_array = explode(., $filename);
$file_ext = strtolower($file_array[sizeof($file_array)-1]);
?
html
head
titleVideo/title
style
body {
background-color: #00;
text-align: center;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
color:#CC;
font-size:12px;
font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
a {
font-size:12px;
color:#CC;
text-decoration:none;
}
a:hover {
text-decoration: underline;
}
#video {
height: 100%;
margin: auto;
padding: 15px; auto;
}
/style
/head
body
div id=video
?php
// print HTML embed code for each file type
switch ($file_ext) {
case mov:
case mp4:
case qt:
case smil:
case 3gp:
case mpg:
case mpeg:
case m4v:
case mp3:
case wav:
case aiff:
case aac:
case m4b:
$height = $height + 16;
$html =END
object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
width=$width height=$height
codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab;
param name=src value=$url
param name=autoplay value=true
param name=controller value=true
param name=scale value=aspect
embed src=$url
width=$width height=$height
autoplay=true
controller=true
scale=aspect
pluginspace=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
/embed
/object
END;
break;
case wmv:
case avi:
$height = $height + 46;
$html =END
object id=MediaPlayer1
width=$width height=$height
classid=CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95
codebase=http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,7,1112;
standby=Loading
Re: [videoblogging] AOL acquire Truveo - video search
Kind of weird since AOL already has media search with Singing Fish. -Josh On 1/10/06, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WSJ is reporting AOL's acquisition of Truveo. They came out of beta in September of last year. Searching Vlog yields 1000+ posts. -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S . N E T Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: PORN, yes, I said it PORN.
Here's a suggestion... You need contact info for the feed owner to notify them (allow owners to claim their feed)... perhaps notify them that their feed will be flagged as explicit and offer them a choice to provide a rating category if they desire (PG, PG-13, R, X... whatever scale you want). -Josh YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: PORN, yes, I said it PORN.
Categories based on tags maybe? That is the Microformat way. Just tag it with a relTag. -Josh On 1/10/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Categories based on tags maybe? On 1/10/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: categories... a full circle. back in the day most were like 'categories? that's out. Now it's all about tags! My response was... 'nope, its about categories AND tags'. On 1/10/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/10/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that you should consult with the porn site owners and get their input. I wouldn't think that they would want their stuff accessed by kids any more than you do. I think Richards biggest issue seemed to be that MeFeedia seemed to arbitrarily pick his feed out for labeling without consulting with him first. A little communication can go a long way. He's a long time member of this community and has contributed a lot to it. Agreed, the lack of dialog was a poor choice on our part. Guilty. I think on solution to the problem could be just smarter directory structure (not easy I know) that makes sure that people see what they want to see without censoring the content producers or creating adult ghetto categories. Categories seem to be the smart way to go about it. Creating 'kid friendly' categories and 'not safe for work' categories, etc. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the first porn sites were added to vlogdir.com last week. that prompted me to add an Adult Content category. i can add a custom wrapper on that category to do a number of things... such as warnings, agreements and so-called age check, access restriction until a request is made to gain access, or do nothing (current status). i just have not made a final decision yet. i think it may depend on the type of porn site... the ones added to vlogdir.com were typical porn sites with a front being a videoblog... as a teaser... which lead you into joining as a member etc other sites may just be adult content, some porny stuff, but not that typical porn network concept. too busy to put effort into any one approach here... but soon i will make some sort of adjustment WITHOUT censoring honest works. this may include 'the video stores back porn room' approach getting in may require a request to adjust member permissions. i know sites like the one added to vlogdir dont give a shit about vlogging... there just trying to make money. i dont feel much concern for them... but stuff like madge puts out... that HAS a place here! sull On 1/10/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's talk. It's a hot topic right now since our (Mefeedia) site chose one method to make the site 'safe for work' etc. Disclaimer: I want to talk as an individual, not as someone affiliated with Mefeedia. That being said... There is a post on the Mefeedia blog that pointed out how content that might not be safe for work is handled. The author of the post picked the first feed that they came across, it was never meant to single out anyone. Apologies for singling out anyone that was not the intent at all. I've spent the morning listening to Richard's podcast. And he's asking questions...I have some answers, as an individual, not as a spokesperson of mefeedia. Why do we need do cover up images like a vagina smoking a cigarette (for example)? Personally, I know that kids will find porn online, that's not why I feel some images need to be categorized or 'covered up'. I feel it is important for browsing at work or something like that, maybe over at my parent's places, etc. So here I am browsing around and I get explicit images on the screen, my boss comes in my office and thinks I am browsing porn. I have no problem with porn, trust me...you should see my collection...It has nothing to do with monetization, etc. It's about having a site that everyone can use anywhere, in a school, in a library, etc. Freedom of speech is thrown around right and left, but if a review of someone's feed isn't appreciated, then it's 'a bad' review, or un-fair. How does that work? I have questions. How do the other sites handle content? How do we as a community make
Re: [videoblogging] Re: PORN, yes, I said it PORN.
maybe just allow folks to tag it not safe for work a check box when submitting a feed. -Josh On 1/10/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be nice (if this is a favorable way to go) to use our own ratings, and not be tied to choices big media made On 1/10/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ms. Kitka wrote: Ratings could be something like: Kids/General/Mature/Adult Sorry, but I don't think either of these tags fit all content very well. I think we'd need something like PG-13 or PG-16. I just think that David's description of Mature and Adult are too similar, which is why I mentioned R and X (R is violence/nudity, X is porn). Neither apply to Kitkast, which is why I suggested something like PG-13 and PG-16... it contains sexual themes, not graphics. Or we could use the Entertainment Software Rating Board's ratings: http://www.esrb.org/esrbratings_guide.asp I'm sure there are existing systems we could use. Is anyone familiar with what might be going on in the (audio) podcasting world in this respect? (Or are the all just using the iTunes Explicit tag?) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Is the videoblogging world better with 1 centralized site?
Different people have different needs. There will always be different services to appeal to different people. -Josh On 1/10/06, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with having one centralized leader for videoblogs is that it would create a monopoly. It's better to have competition in order to find competitive rates and features. I considered getting hosting through YouTube but I didn't like the way they put the YouTube logo on all videos. I want full ownership of my video and I don't want anyone to add their own logo. My videos are hosted by LibSyn for $20/month (about 525mb/month, unlimited bandwidth). There are many free sites if you don't require a lot of space, I personally wouldn't choose YouTube. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, niko_video [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if the videoblogging world is better off with one centralized leader who has streamlined the videoblogging process or more smaller companies competing and doing the same thing? If you could design or set up the world of videoblogging, what would work best for your needs and the needs of the community? Also, does anyone have insight into a site that you think will take on that roll? Youtube seems to be the most popular at the moment. Will it stay that way? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Is the videoblogging world better with 1 centralized site?
You don't have to pay anything if you are satisfied with free services. Let's look at it with an abbreviated example from the blogging world... There's Blogger. Its free. Its pretty good. It does a lot of stuff that works fine for a lot of people. But it doesn't include many features that are common to other blogging platforms. It is not as customizable as WordPress or MovableType. You can't do a podcast with Blogger without combining it with another service like FeedBurner. In short, once you get used to Blogger, you may find yourself wanting *more* than Blogger. There's TypePad. Its not free. It has a lot of really great features. It can really be customized yet at the same time is easier than installing and hosting a blog on your own server. The quality of service is definitely worth paying for. Then again, some people prefer to do things their own way. There's WordPress. Its free. Its got tons of great features and an active development community. Sometimes using it makes you feel like you're on the bleeding edge. It helps to have your own server space and understand PHP and databases. It can be extended to do all sorts of stuff you can't really do with Blogger or TypePad. There's a hosted version of Wordpress that costs money. People are willing to pay for it because it fits their needs. There you go... different products, similar space, different features, different pricing structure, different business models. -Josh On 1/10/06, niko_video [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the advantage of LibSyn over a free site like Veoh (you mentioned earlier)? Is it a question of features or something that works better for you personally? I guess I don't think I should have to pay anything at this point...though I'm not sure how long that will last. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with having one centralized leader for videoblogs is that it would create a monopoly. It's better to have competition in order to find competitive rates and features. I considered getting hosting through YouTube but I didn't like the way they put the YouTube logo on all videos. I want full ownership of my video and I don't want anyone to add their own logo. My videos are hosted by LibSyn for $20/month (about 525mb/month, unlimited bandwidth). There are many free sites if you don't require a lot of space, I personally wouldn't choose YouTube. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, niko_video [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if the videoblogging world is better off with one centralized leader who has streamlined the videoblogging process or more smaller companies competing and doing the same thing? If you could design or set up the world of videoblogging, what would work best for your needs and the needs of the community? Also, does anyone have insight into a site that you think will take on that roll? Youtube seems to be the most popular at the moment. Will it stay that way? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Is the videoblogging world better with 1 centralized site?
that's just not how the internet works. It is massive and distributed. It is too large for any one entity to control or make entire sense of. Not even Google. What is going to happen with videoblogs, or video on the web, is that there will be a lot of it and it will be everywhere. It is inevitable. Same with webpages, audio files, you name it. There will be limitless amounts of media and it will be all over the place. Finding a needle in this haystack will always be a great challenge and doing this well will be of great value. There are lots of ways to find a needle in haystacks. Some approaches work better for others depending on who is the user and what they are looking for. Here's a quick run-down. - Directory - or hierarchical categorization (early Yahoo!) - Non-hierarchical categorization (Del.ici.ous) - Search (Google) - Recommendations and Collaborative Filtering (Amazon, NetFlix, etc) - Tightly joined Social Networks (Friendster, MySpace, etc.) - Loosely joined social networks (Blogs, linking on websites) - Notifications (RSS/Pings) So how will we find videos on the Internet? Probably all of these different ways and more. -josh On 1/10/06, niko_video [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry I am not the vlog god you are yet Michael. but...can you tell me you wouldn't see the benefit of the vlogging world revolving around one site? say...vlogdir? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: worthless topic. sorry. On 1/10/06, niko_video [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if the videoblogging world is better off with one centralized leader who has streamlined the videoblogging process or more smaller companies competing and doing the same thing? If you could design or set up the world of videoblogging, what would work best for your needs and the needs of the community? Also, does anyone have insight into a site that you think will take on that roll? Youtube seems to be the most popular at the moment. Will it stay that way? Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Play WMV in QuickTime Player
very cool... although I already shelled out for the Flip4Mac Studio version which lets you edit and export WMV too. However, I disabled the automatically play WMV files in Quicktime feature. I wanted to make sure I was getting the same experience other users would get. I can still open WMV in QT, its just not the default option. -josh On 1/10/06, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize most people aren't using WMV for videoblogging, but Flip4Mac and Microsoft just announced a free version of their WMV plugin for QuickTime: http://www.jakeludington.com/downloads/20060110_flip4mac_adds_wmv_to_quicktime_player.html http://tinyurl.com/a6o38 Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com I'm giving away my Xbox 360: http://www.jakeludington.com/5xbox360.phtml SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] wordpress now hosts?
yes, this is true. this was out at Webzine. -josh On 1/10/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wordpress.com/ can someone confirm what seems to be true? wordpress is now like blogger.com? you can just sign up for a free account...and host video on it? i just signed up...uploaed a video...it was there. crazy. i need other eyes. have we spoken about this? Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] wordpress now hosts?
haha, stick with typepad if it works for you. -Josh On 1/10/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, this is true. this was out at Webzine. okay...im behind the times. im dumping Typepad. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash, video iPod and offering MP3 podcasts
Flash is used by service providers... upload your video here types of services. This is fine, but for an independent who wants to post their own video on the web, dealing with Flash is still for the most part too expensive and too complicated. Flash MX 2004 Professional is not a cheap program. Understanding actionscipt is not easy. Understanding the intricacies of Flash and how to make it work for both playback and syndication is not easy. I think Flash is great on the web. But it is not yet easy enough for an individual, low budget, one-person production unit without relying on a third party service. /rant -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash, video iPod and offering MP3 podcasts
I agree with this. In fact I've posted a very elegant WordPress FLV plugin here several times. I think that is a great option for videobloggers. But Flash is not the be all and end all. Other format options for download/syndication are very important. -Josh On 1/10/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but you can transcode other formats to flv.and you can use a flash wrapper/player which can provide some interactivity being discussed here. these are free or cheap. just need a server to upload it to so it can be used on the web. you dont have to buy or use expensive Flash MX 2004 Professional. the important point, to reiterate here is NOT to ONLY use flash. But DONT avoid it when you can feasibly incorporate it into your projects. DO provide mp4 etc... balance experiment dont be fooled by partial truths which can end up limiting your creativity and use of available technologies. sullOn 1/10/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flash is used by service providers... upload your video here typesof services.This is fine, but for an independent who wants to post their own videoon the web, dealing with Flash is still for the most part too expensive and too complicated. Flash MX 2004 Professional is not acheap program. Understanding actionscipt is not easy. Understandingthe intricacies of Flash and how to make it work for both playback andsyndication is not easy. I think Flash is great on the web. But it is not yet easy enough foran individual, low budget, one-person production unit without relyingon a third party service./rant-Josh Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: I did THIS to embed Flash onto Wordpress
Yet again here's a Wordpress plugin for embedding Flash Video. With this, all you do is upload your FLV, insert a simple tag in your blog entry, and you're done. This is the most elegant implementation of Flash Video for independent videobloggers I've seen yet. http://roel.meurders.nl/wordpress-plugins/wp-flv-video-player-plugin/ -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] wordpress now hosts?
It all depends what you want to do. Wordpress has a lot of great features, but TypePad is good too. If TypePad works for you and you've been using it for a long time, I wouldn't say there's an overwhelming difference that you *need* to switch for... unless there's something about Wrodpress that you know is a big plus... not sure if the hosted version is as customizable as the version you download and host on your own server for free (having more control and hosting on your own is definitely worth switching for). Blogger is pretty limited. Its great for being free and easy, but when you want to do more its usually time to graduate to something more powerful. -Josh On 1/10/06, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, but how about if someone needed to graduate from blogger :) (obscure reference to earlier quote from Josh when I asked about blogger, than probably even Josh doesn't remember) ... Richard On 1/10/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: haha, stick with typepad if it works for you. -Josh On 1/10/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, this is true. this was out at Webzine. okay...im behind the times. im dumping Typepad. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Another CES post
definitely not the same company. -Josh On 1/7/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are bliptv.com and blip.tv the same company? I thought that bliptv.com had an agreement with Sprint? On 1/7/06, Jack Olmsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have been publishing video blog reports and photos from CES 2006 since tuesday: I4U News http://www.i4u.com there are now about 25 videos on the site. did you know that blip.tv has a deal with sprint? i didn't... as soon as i can find wireless access or the press room opens at 7:30am (pst) i'll post a video report from the sprint press party last night with a company product mgr talking about blip.tv. -Jack http://view-point.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: How to format .avi files for Google video?
it does have mp3 audio codec. When you compress your video, use custom settings and change the Audio settings. You can select your Audio compression format and bitrate. -Josh On 1/7/06, gmjoyce_y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Andreas. I recently bought QTPro but it doesn't have the MP3 audio codec. Do I need to go somewhere else to find that audio codec encoder? --Greg --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:18:22 +0100, gmjoyce_y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google video says they want submissions to be in MPEG-4 video and MP3 audio formats. Can anyone recommend cheap and easy software to compress .avi files into these formats? Quicktime Pro - $30. URL: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/upgrade/ - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Questions on Formats to Post for Vlog.
iPod will play mov and mp4. It depends more on the resolution and bitrate. m4v is not actually anything other than an mp4 with h.264 codec, aac audio, and specific resolution and bitrate settings optimized for iPod. So really, m4v is a made up file extension. It should actually be mp4, as that's really the correct file type. It is often preferable to edit the filename replacing .m4v extension with .mp4 as that is more accurately what the file *is*. -Josh On 1/6/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi cheryl, i have been using blip.tv for some time now and am very happy it i notice that some people post their videos there in two formats: quicktime and windows media for myself, i only upload quicktime videos as .mov files, generally using the settings from freevlog.org however, more and more people are now using the iPod m4v format instead it's your call as to how many formats you wish to support i'm always toying with the idea of providing wmv files for Internet Explorer users, but never get around to it (sorry IE users!) markus www.CherylShuman.com wrote: Dear Vlogging Group, I have a question regarding exporting formats. At the moment I have both PC and Mac. On my Powerbook, the IMovie has a setting direct for the Video Ipod. I've been exporting in that format as well as Windows Media. Is there a general rule of thumb for exporting in other formats? I'm not sure what proper protocol is. Also, when I export in Mp4 and .mov format from my new powerbook, it won't play on last year's Mac. I tried to download the updated Quicktime pro 7, but it won't download. I'm not sure what to do. Does this mean I should export in several formats or ??? Also, I recently was told about blip.tv and other distribution outlets. In the group's opinion, where is the best place to actually post your videoblogs? I would appreciate the feedback. Thank you in advance. Happy New Year Everyone. Cheryl Shuman Yahoo! Groups Links . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Real People Network
I'm thinking about this concept of Real People Network you've created here, and I can't help but think what would happen if you allowed more people to contribute interviews with Real People. They would not have to be connected in some way with technology, just interviews, conversation, oral history... Obviously this sort of thing is not new, but it would be really great to develop a well tagged and searchable archive of interviews with Real People. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] iPod QT m4v format problems
I mean, just edit the file extension, don't convert the file. Rename the file so the extension is .mp4. -Josh On 1/4/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: change .m4v to .mp4 and I bet all will work right. -Josh On 1/4/06, John Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Vloggers,Thanks for eveyones help yesterday. I have installed the feed enclosure plugin and it seems to be working great and it improved the reliability of the feed. I'm not sure I understand the difference between the atom.xml and the RSS index.xml output files for Moveable Type so if anyone can explain I would appreciate it.Anyway the feed seems to work better, but when downloads are done using iTunes through a podcast subscription ... the file looks like it is downloading and then when it completes it does not load the file as if it is the wrong format and leaves and exclaimation mark next to it instead. Likewise when i click on the link in the block to access the same file I am taken to a page with the quicktime logo as it downloads and that logo eventually turns into a Question Mark indicating it does not know what to do with the file. FireAnt on the other hand has no problem downloading the file and playing it ... I have another problem there however in that FireAnt attempts to play the QT file and our Flashfile in the RSS feed viewer below the video so that provides some confusion.Now one thing that you should know is I have exported the files using QT pro to the M4V format but renamed the files with the MOV suffix. I did this because previously when I had uploaded files with the M4V extension and tried to view them through the web with a browser I got back text encoding in the browser rather than the QT File. I have had more luck with the MOV extension.To check out our blog and feed go to ... http://www.choosecast.com/charlotte/lifeseensfeed://feeds.feedburner.com/choosecast/charlotte/lifeseensHELP! Anyone have any insight into why I am having file format or transfer problems with the QT files? John MayesProduction Technology ManagerWe Can Choose, Inc 831 East Morehead Street, Suite 740Charlotte, North Carolina 28202704-377-2870 ext.13 [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ChooseCharlotte.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] iPod QT m4v format problems
change .m4v to .mp4 and I bet all will work right. -Josh On 1/4/06, John Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Vloggers,Thanks for eveyones help yesterday. I have installed the feed enclosure plugin and it seems to be working great and it improved the reliability of the feed. I'm not sure I understand the difference between the atom.xml and the RSS index.xml output files for Moveable Type so if anyone can explain I would appreciate it.Anyway the feed seems to work better, but when downloads are done using iTunes through a podcast subscription ... the file looks like it is downloading and then when it completes it does not load the file as if it is the wrong format and leaves and exclaimation mark next to it instead. Likewise when i click on the link in the block to access the same file I am taken to a page with the quicktime logo as it downloads and that logo eventually turns into a Question Mark indicating it does not know what to do with the file. FireAnt on the other hand has no problem downloading the file and playing it ... I have another problem there however in that FireAnt attempts to play the QT file and our Flashfile in the RSS feed viewer below the video so that provides some confusion.Now one thing that you should know is I have exported the files using QT pro to the M4V format but renamed the files with the MOV suffix. I did this because previously when I had uploaded files with the M4V extension and tried to view them through the web with a browser I got back text encoding in the browser rather than the QT File. I have had more luck with the MOV extension.To check out our blog and feed go to ... http://www.choosecast.com/charlotte/lifeseensfeed://feeds.feedburner.com/choosecast/charlotte/lifeseensHELP! Anyone have any insight into why I am having file format or transfer problems with the QT files? John MayesProduction Technology ManagerWe Can Choose, Inc 831 East Morehead Street, Suite 740Charlotte, North Carolina 28202704-377-2870 ext.13 [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ChooseCharlotte.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] more players other than iPod
there's also this little gadget called a Sony PSP And another called a Zen Vision:Micro... And there are and will be plenty more. Those of you going to CES, let's see if we can compile a list of portable video players, their video specs, and prices. I bet there will be several iPod alternatives that are less expensive and play more video formats. -Josh On 1/3/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Kinberg pointed me to this new device: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X Linux-based, under 200$, hackable... Gosh, and I thought I pointed you to it. ;) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/22740 Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] more players other than iPod
yes, but generally they suck. They are also mostly focused on streaming video (see: Verizon Vcast) because it is easier to charge for. Phone companies don't make money selling phones, they make it selling services. I don't think they're too interested in making it easy for people to download video with their computer and then sync it to their phone for portable viewing. -joshOn 1/3/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have mobile phones with video playback hit the market yet?On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's also this little gadget called a Sony PSP And another called a Zen Vision:Micro... And there are and will be plenty more. Those of you going to CES, let's see if we can compile a list of portable video players, their video specs, and prices. I bet there will be several iPod alternatives that are less expensive and play more video formats. -Josh On 1/3/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Kinberg pointed me to this new device: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X Linux-based, under 200$, hackable... Gosh, and I thought I pointed you to it. ;) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/22740 Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Yahoo is now making Tv for the web
I think Yahoo! was dealt kind of a blow lately when MTV decided to go with Microsoft as the partner for their MTV Urge Music and Video Store. Yahoo's offices are literally across the street from MTV in Santa Monica. I bet they were pretty burned by that. Regardless, I do think there is real potential to create original content on the internet... an upstart TV network that doesn't even exist on TV. But, I don't think it will come from an established brand like Yahoo! Instead it will be an independent, sort of like Gawker Media or Weblogs Inc. before they were acquired by AOL. Eventually, this independent network will get big enough to be acquired by an AOL, Yahoo!, or other content network... heck, maybe NewsCorp. /crystalball -Josh On 1/3/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will be interesting to see Wow house. HGTV has been shown to be a successful channel. According to AdAge, Yahoo's Kevin Sites' In the Hot Zone and Richard Bangs Adventures have been slow to start and have not done as well as expected. (http://adage.com/news.cms?newsId=47114) We need to find clear strong voices in vlogging or will be buried in the noise as Traditional moves to IP. On 1/3/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/01/BUGJCGDH4T1.DTL interesting article. yahoo bought office space in Hollywood mid-2005. This is their first venture to create their own content. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] more players other than iPod
i doubt this is true... Mac OS X is based on UNIX. So is Linux. In fact, many Linux programs will run on Mac OS X and porting Linux to Mac is generally pretty easy (though sometimes not as easy to go the other way if a Mac program has some Mac dependencies). -Josh . On 1/3/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X Gosh, and I thought I pointed you to it. ;) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/22740 haha i guess we see what we want at the time. now im ready to buy. question: since this linux based...im assuming there's no way to sync with a Mac unless i install linux on it right? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] more players other than iPod
I don't get it? Why does this leave all the power in Apple's hands? Because they have the Rokr phone? There are plenty of other services in the mobile media market that have more penetration than Apple. -Josh On 1/3/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True. It's a shameleaves all the power in Apple's hands for now I guess.On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but generally they suck. They are also mostly focused on streaming video (see: Verizon Vcast) because it is easier to charge for. Phone companies don't make money selling phones, they make it selling services. I don't think they're too interested in making it easy for people to download video with their computer and then sync it to their phone for portable viewing. -joshOn 1/3/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have mobile phones with video playback hit the market yet?On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's also this little gadget called a Sony PSP And another called a Zen Vision:Micro... And there are and will be plenty more. Those of you going to CES, let's see if we can compile a list of portable video players, their video specs, and prices. I bet there will be several iPod alternatives that are less expensive and play more video formats. -Josh On 1/3/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Kinberg pointed me to this new device: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X Linux-based, under 200$, hackable... Gosh, and I thought I pointed you to it. ;) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/22740 Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod
Not underwhelmed, just unwilling to concede that Apple is the *only* player out there. There is more than Apple. Much more. I believe that video creators, consumers, and participants should have choices. Let there be more content, more creators, more devices, more software, more marketplaces, more business models, and more ways to experience and interact with media. -Josh On 1/3/06, avideye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True. It's a shameleaves all the power in Apple's hands for now I guess. I'm new here, so I'm just catching up and maybe I'be missed a lot of debate... With Apple putting so many portable video players into so many potential videoblog watchers' hands who probably until now have never even considered watching a podcast, I'm surprised people are underwhelmed by the potential mass market Apple has delivered to you. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] more players other than iPod
not really... don't forget Sony PSP and Creative Zen Vision. There will be more devices too, including cell phones, that play video. Oh yeah... and there's all those desktops, laptops, DVRs, media centers, etc. Apple does have the best marketing that's for sure. -Josh On 1/3/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not up on the latest gadgets, etc. I was assuming that if mobile phone manufacturers aren't going to be a driving force in non-streamed video devices, the video iPod will be king for a while longer. Unless someone is 'up' on the latest stuff, that is all one hears about...video iPod.On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't get it? Why does this leave all the power in Apple's hands? Because they have the Rokr phone? There are plenty of other services in the mobile media market that have more penetration than Apple. -Josh On 1/3/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True. It's a shameleaves all the power in Apple's hands for now I guess.On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but generally they suck. They are also mostly focused on streaming video (see: Verizon Vcast) because it is easier to charge for. Phone companies don't make money selling phones, they make it selling services. I don't think they're too interested in making it easy for people to download video with their computer and then sync it to their phone for portable viewing. -joshOn 1/3/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have mobile phones with video playback hit the market yet?On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's also this little gadget called a Sony PSP And another called a Zen Vision:Micro... And there are and will be plenty more. Those of you going to CES, let's see if we can compile a list of portable video players, their video specs, and prices. I bet there will be several iPod alternatives that are less expensive and play more video formats. -Josh On 1/3/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Kinberg pointed me to this new device: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X Linux-based, under 200$, hackable... Gosh, and I thought I pointed you to it. ;) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/22740 Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging
Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod
This is not about formats or standards. I would definitely like to see more unity there. That helps everyone. But I don't think Apple's closed loop is necessarily healthy for all. By your logic, we should all simply be satisfied with Windows, Internet Explorer, and whatever else is the de-facto. I will choose the path that leads to more innovation instead. -Josh On 1/3/06, avideye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not underwhelmed, just unwilling to concede that Apple is the *only* player out there. There is more than Apple. Much more. I believe that video creators, consumers, and participants should have choices. Let there be more content, more creators, more devices, more software, more marketplaces, more business models, and more ways to experience and interact with media. -Josh Well, I think there HAVE been choices - Treos, Creative Players, just as there were choices in the MP3 player market. (I remember my first Rio). But giving an audience choice doesn't necessarily lead to more choices, it usually means less in the end, as the popular choice gains primary market share and market consolidates. But what you lose in multiple formats and devices, you gain in critcal audience mass. It'd be fascinating to hear from videocasters who are currently featured in the iTMS how much their subscriptions increased over the holiday as many people unwrapped their video iPods for the first time and went looking for content. S Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod
That's my point... I'll be at CES and will look for as many players as possible. This is still very early going in all of this. Video iPod is now about 2 months old. I'd hardly say it has the entire market captured. There are so many stakeholders in this game that I highly doubt a one ring to rule them all solution will pan out. The iPod is definitely cool, but its not the only game in town. Things are just getting warmed up. -Josh On 1/3/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not underwhelmed, just unwilling to concede that Apple is the *only* player out there. There is more than Apple. Much more. What else is there? (besides, PSP and that gadget Jay just mentioned?) I believe that video creators, consumers, and participants should have choices. Let there be more content, more creators, more devices, more software, more marketplaces, more business models, and more ways to experience and interact with media. Yes, definately! -Josh On 1/3/06, avideye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True. It's a shameleaves all the power in Apple's hands for now I guess. I'm new here, so I'm just catching up and maybe I'be missed a lot of debate... With Apple putting so many portable video players into so many potential videoblog watchers' hands who probably until now have never even considered watching a podcast, I'm surprised people are underwhelmed by the potential mass market Apple has delivered to you. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Greetings and Many Questions
MovableType also works great as a single solution. You can install this plugin that generates enclosures in your RSS feed and you're good to go, no other third parties involved: http://brandon.fuller.name/archives/hacks/mtenclosures/ -Josh On 1/3/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't exactly true. The reason that FreeVlog advocates multiple services is because of the free part, and also to make people aware of all of the options available. You can easily use a single system like Wordpress on a purchased hosting plan and not use any third party services. This would probably be the best solution for a business video blog since there might be some user agreement issues with using some of the free services for commercial purposes. Also I might point out that one can always use Blip.tv as a singular service as well, as they offer a blog, video hosting and RSS feeds to all their members. But again I would check the user agreements for commercial use. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, amayesd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Video Bloggers, I am new to this so bare with me. We are working on developing a video blog for our company. We have purchased Moveable Type is the foundation for building and publishing our blogs on our own domain. It seems to me from reviewing free vlog and several other online sources that one needs multiple parties involved in order to actually get the blog with video content both published and podcastable ... 1. You need a Blog Host - in our case Moveable Type on our own domain. This is where the blog is both published and viewed publicly. All blog entries would be done here and would need to reference the video file on a separate host ... 2. You need a separate Host for the video files - Our Media, Blip TV, or uTube. This is only where the video file is stored and referenced by the Blog. 3. RSS Feed Enclosure - a 3rd company ie FeedBurner then provides an enclosure and feed address for your blog so that RSS readers and podcast readers can access and subscribe to the blog data and video files. The difficult part of this for me is that none of this is integrated in anyway. I am wondering if anyone (ie Moveable Type) is developing an integrated system that allows for unified publishing of the blog entry along with uploading the video file in various formats and creating all the neccessary RSS and PodCasting Feeds. And doing all this so that a company like ours can host this uniformly on our own domain. Our Project ... If anyone has questions about what we are trying to accomplish please visit our original site for LifeSeens at http://www.ChooseCast.com/Lifeseens This is published without blogging software and only as unmanagable static pages through frontpage. It is also published using Flashbased Video. You can then go to our test site for republishing this same blog using Moveable Type at http://www.ChooseCast.com/Charlotte/Lifeseens This was published with Movable Type using Flashbased Video and with a secondary file in iPod Quicktime for podcasting. An RSS feed is available at ... feed://www.choosecast.com/charlotte/lifeseens/atom.xml (the feed generated by Moveable Type) and feed://feeds.feedburner.com/choosecast/charlotte/lifeseens (done with enclosures) This feed is now available in iTunes if you search for lifeseens. Neither feed however is functioning for podcasting because something is wrong with the quicktime video file format but im not clear about what. All files are hosted on the GoDaddy servers that host our domain and subsequently host our Moveable Type blog system. I would appreciate any insight into the video blogging options and any recommendations on more fully integrating all the aspects of blogging and podcasting in a unified service. In particular the hosting of video files and the blog on the same server. Thanks!!! John http://www.ChooseCharlotte.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Greetings and Many Questions
Also note that part of the FreeVlog philosophy is not only free but also don't host anything yourself. Thus they rely solely on third party solutions in the tutorial (Blogger + OurMedia/Internet Archive + FeedBurner). If you are willing to pay for a server and wish to do more/have more control over the process, I would definitely recommend MovableType, WordPress as a solution. You can also host your videos on your own, but this could get expensive in terms of bandwidth costs if your vlog begins to become popular. Rocketboom, for instance, now has over 130K downloads per day. Rocketboom does not use any third party services. They pay for hosting themselves, which is not cheap though its certainly way less expensive than it used to be a few years ago. -Josh On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MovableType also works great as a single solution. You can install this plugin that generates enclosures in your RSS feed and you're good to go, no other third parties involved: http://brandon.fuller.name/archives/hacks/mtenclosures/ -Josh On 1/3/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't exactly true. The reason that FreeVlog advocates multiple services is because of the free part, and also to make people aware of all of the options available. You can easily use a single system like Wordpress on a purchased hosting plan and not use any third party services. This would probably be the best solution for a business video blog since there might be some user agreement issues with using some of the free services for commercial purposes. Also I might point out that one can always use Blip.tv as a singular service as well, as they offer a blog, video hosting and RSS feeds to all their members. But again I would check the user agreements for commercial use. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, amayesd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Video Bloggers, I am new to this so bare with me. We are working on developing a video blog for our company. We have purchased Moveable Type is the foundation for building and publishing our blogs on our own domain. It seems to me from reviewing free vlog and several other online sources that one needs multiple parties involved in order to actually get the blog with video content both published and podcastable ... 1. You need a Blog Host - in our case Moveable Type on our own domain. This is where the blog is both published and viewed publicly. All blog entries would be done here and would need to reference the video file on a separate host ... 2. You need a separate Host for the video files - Our Media, Blip TV, or uTube. This is only where the video file is stored and referenced by the Blog. 3. RSS Feed Enclosure - a 3rd company ie FeedBurner then provides an enclosure and feed address for your blog so that RSS readers and podcast readers can access and subscribe to the blog data and video files. The difficult part of this for me is that none of this is integrated in anyway. I am wondering if anyone (ie Moveable Type) is developing an integrated system that allows for unified publishing of the blog entry along with uploading the video file in various formats and creating all the neccessary RSS and PodCasting Feeds. And doing all this so that a company like ours can host this uniformly on our own domain. Our Project ... If anyone has questions about what we are trying to accomplish please visit our original site for LifeSeens at http://www.ChooseCast.com/Lifeseens This is published without blogging software and only as unmanagable static pages through frontpage. It is also published using Flashbased Video. You can then go to our test site for republishing this same blog using Moveable Type at http://www.ChooseCast.com/Charlotte/Lifeseens This was published with Movable Type using Flashbased Video and with a secondary file in iPod Quicktime for podcasting. An RSS feed is available at ... feed://www.choosecast.com/charlotte/lifeseens/atom.xml (the feed generated by Moveable Type) and feed://feeds.feedburner.com/choosecast/charlotte/lifeseens (done with enclosures) This feed is now available in iTunes if you search for lifeseens. Neither feed however is functioning for podcasting because something is wrong with the quicktime video file format but im not clear about what. All files are hosted on the GoDaddy servers that host our domain and subsequently host our Moveable Type blog system. I would appreciate any insight into the video blogging options and any recommendations on more fully integrating all the aspects of blogging and podcasting in a unified service. In particular the hosting of video files and the blog on the same server
Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod
There could be revenue there... dunno, its not something we've looked at too seriously with FireAnt. There's certainly revenue for the cellular providers since they charge for the amount of data consumed. There could be revenue by charging producers to particpate in such a program to make their feeds available to mobile phone subscribers (and provide stats back to them on their distribution). There could be revenue if you charged people for the content (ringtones model), or wrapped it in advertising... These are just off the top of my head, obviously nothing brand new there, but could be an opportunity for some... not sure if its something we'd want to do with FireAnt though. -Josh On 1/3/06, Robert Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the cellphone Carriers have closed content decks -- so you need an express partnership to stream video to phones on the network. Interesting that MoBuzz TV, which is specifically targeted at mobile phones, hasn't formed any partnerships in the US. They do have a partnership with Vodafone Spain, to stream video segments to subscribers. I think the European carriers are more open than the US carriers to partnering with independent producers. MobilCasts (www.mobilcast.com) lets you listen to audio podcasts on your phone in the US, but they only support a limited number of phones, and you need to have a data subscription, which is a relatively expensive add-on. Regardless, I wonder when they'll start to support video podcasts. It would be great if a company like MeFeedia or FireANT formed a partnership with a Sprint or a Cingular, so that you could download a mobile app to stream video feeds. But there's no revenue model there, and like Josh said, the phone companies want to charge for video. Wishful thinking... -rob -- REELblogs.com Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:34:26 -0800 From: Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: more players other than iPod yes, but generally they suck. They are also mostly focused on streaming video (see: Verizon Vcast) because it is easier to charge for. Phone companies don't make money selling phones, they make it selling services. I don't think they're too interested in making it easy for people to download video with their computer and then sync it to their phone for portable viewing. -josh On 1/3/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have mobile phones with video playback hit the market yet? On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's also this little gadget called a Sony PSP And another called a Zen Vision:Micro... And there are and will be plenty more. Those of you going to CES, let's see if we can compile a list of portable video players, their video specs, and prices. I bet there will be several iPod alternatives that are less expensive and play more video formats. -Josh On 1/3/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Kinberg pointed me to this new device: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X Linux-based, under 200$, hackable... Gosh, and I thought I pointed you to it. ;) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/22740 Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod
you're absolutely right. Technology is usually the least of any issue when relating to innovation. More often its usually business, politics, and social factors. -Josh On 1/3/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a good article in Wired a couple of issues back about why there isn't a really good mobile phone/music service yet--and it's all about competing business interests not technology. I think it would be a safe bet that the same issues are or will be at play with video as well. Here is a link to the article: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.11/phone.html Also I believe Eric Rice could give a little insight into delivering content to mobile phones. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video IS A TRAP!
Who says everything should be free (as in beer)? If you want to do something, sometimes that requires an investment of time/money. Especially if you believe that the thing you're starting will actually make money one day and you will be able to recoup your initial investment. -josh On 1/3/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I forgot about those too... -hosting/bandwidth -equitment -space -time costs It all ads up to not cheap... but we're leveragers... we all make things work buy leveraging tools we already have for things we need... i.e. Amanda's getting some good exposure... as is Andrew... and I'm sure they have their own personal motives and residual profits. -Mike On Jan 3, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Bill Streeter wrote: Yeah I always found the $25 a day number a little misleading too. I don't think that this accounts for the hosting and bandwidth costs either. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser groups-yahoo- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 24, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Ron Watson wrote: I would have to say that Rocketboom's numbers are a bit scary, especially on a production budget of next to nothing. I'd like to point out that the production cost of rocketboom reported as $25 a day are not the true costs... much as I love them this is totally misleading. This does not take into account the cost of the space... even if it is Andrews apartment is still has a cost... the cost of the equipment even if bought and paid for... which including cameras and laptops may be well over $10k... and most importantly the coast of Andrew's and Amanda's time... which is most definitely well over $100k a year... or they are seriously undervaluing their talent. :) I always keep my time and equipment costs in mind in whatever I do and try to minimize them in whatever I do... to lie to yourself about such costs can be very costly. Imagine if a bunch of Democracy Now's sprung up and got similar to 'broadcast' numbers... What if we had a bunch of pro-peace Vloggers publishing regularly in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq? What if they were really good? I think Democracy Now and pro-peace bloggers would have to seriously reshape their image to capture that kind of market... it requires some real polish and talent but I really think it can be done... To find out what I'm talking about check out the Viridian Design Movement - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viridian_Design_Movement - and it's WorldChaning.org As a friend of mine would say... think green is sexy... think poltics is sexy... think intelligence is sexy... now drill that point home. I think this was Peta's aim when they highered that one baywatch chick what's her name... unimportant... anyway... wether it has worked or not is questionable. I think that this medium, while it will probably never take over from corporate media, is earth shattering. It gives people, for next to nothing, regular old people, the right to be heard. It does so with moving pictures, which has been pretty much the sole realm of corporate media since moving pictures were created. Exactly. If a picture tells a thousand words, how many does a well made film piece tell? Regular people simply are not allowed to say that much. Pessimist. pick up you're camera or mic or pen... we're listening. :) You can only say that much if you are making money on it, or if you have the money to buy it. You have to earn the right to speak that loud. What does the media stand to lose to Vlogging? Billions in lost ad revenue? Control over information? Exclusivity? Maybe their customers will develop their own distribution system and cut them out entirely instead of making billion dollar ad buys? Who knows? But one thing is for sure, we threaten them, lots. I think actually... I have this weird theory... that they ironically have much to gain... but much like all my ideas it's wholy unsubstantiated Except for what's happening in the blogging and news world with certain large newspapers and certain hyper local ones that are getting the hang of how to work with bloggers not against them. Also it's being discussed as an aspect of long tail theory... I call it the breadth vs. depth debate... My point is as the breadth of media widens... there will also be tremendous growth and at least some of that growth will happen in the mainstream media tool Why? because intellectual property markets are appreciative goods... meaning the more people are aware of them and appreciate them... the more value they gain. Our media industry is big... but it doesn't have access to the rest of the world market... ironically as it's decentralized and deregulated it will be introduced to vast new markets... vast new markets with a new appreciation
Re: [videoblogging] Real People Network
This may come off the wrong way, but I'm really glad you interviewed so many women. Whenever I go to any of these tech conferences there's a noticable lack of women and I tend to find it rather shameful. -Josh On 1/3/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just added this to vlogdir's 'attention-worthy' links in the menu. On 1/3/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far, I think it's really great. Nice job. The community will benefit from this project. Your wife mad? I was barely allowed near the puter over holidays ;-) sull On 1/3/06, JD Lasica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought some of you would be interested in this. I've been blogging since early '01 and videoblogging for a year or so, and have been reluctant to launch yet another blog.But I've become convinced that there's value in creating a vlog that's focused almost entirely on the videoblogging phenomenon. So I spent the holiday weekend scratching out css code from the ground up and came up with this: http://www.realpeoplenetwork.com I realize that some of the design decisions (featuring apple's video iPod, natch) will rub some vloggers the wrong way. I also think a year from now, a heck of a lot of us will be using H.264. Be that as it may, this is just one more pebble in the growing vlog pond. Real People Network is geared mostly for newcomers to the vlogging world, who don't know about rss, or bittorrent, or how to find free video. The ability to download photos via BitTorrent is an interesting touch. This is version 1.0, so I'll be adding info about other devices that play blog video. You'll find plenty of broken links over the next week or so, but the design's essentially done. I've only been able to test it on a PC (firefox and ie) and 15-inch Mac Powerbook (firefox and safari), so if you see anything that looks funny in other displays, please let me know. Looking forward to seeing some of you at Macworld next week! jd lasica ourmedia http://www.newmediamusings.com http://www.darknet.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Real People Network
And all this time I thought I was more of a ladies man... :-) Certainly not as much as the dream version of Andrew Baron though -Josh On 1/3/06, jdlasica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That, actually, is one of the reasons I'm doing this. It's tiresome to see the same usual (male) suspects at all these tech conferences, so we need to elevate those whose voices often aren't heard. But still, I need to get you on tape one of these days, Josh, even though you're a guy's guy ... :~) jd --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may come off the wrong way, but I'm really glad you interviewed so many women. Whenever I go to any of these tech conferences there's a noticable lack of women and I tend to find it rather shameful. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: other ways to view this group?
This group is mirrored with Google Groups which apparently has better archive search: http://groups.google.com/group/videoblogging -Josh On 1/2/06, monika_lyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option is to use an aggregator. I use Sharp reader, you can use any one you prefer. That way I have all my regular text blogs, newsfeeds and listserve style groups in one place. Here is the rss feed address for this group: http://rss.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/rss Monika http://nurse2be.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Edmund Yeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: View it on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging ? Edmund http://swiftywriting.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know there are some other ways to browse this group that let one search more easily, etc. Can someone refresh my memory about where to go to do this? Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: XXX on Blip.tv
Stephanie, Can you point me to any documentation on this secondary producer clause and what it means? I've been wondering about how sites like iFilm.com and YouTube.com persist seemingly without liability even though they willfully display content they have no right to broadcast (SNL clips and other content they do not have permission to distribute). Does this clause cover sites like this or does it only relate to pornography? -Josh On 1/2/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eddie, As of last week, the secondary producer clause was struck down (yay!). Blip.tv can't get into trouble for some jerk posting porn to their service. I say can't, but everyone needs to be aware that individual DA's have prosecuted (and persecuted) people for selling/providing adult material even when the material was not sold, targeted, distributed or otherwise meant for their local community. So, while the law no longer requires blip.tv to have all the underage reporting and documentation, that's no guarantee that some overzealous porn task force at the FBI won't decide to take it upon themselves to go after them, and the resulting legal quagmire can land Enric and all the blip.tv servers in court for years. Also, if some jerk posts child porn, Enric has to remove it immediately, even if it's not theirs. [And it'd be smart to call the cops if that happened, in case you can track down the source and fry them over an open grill.] We've been watching this very closely in my house, since hubby's biz depends on it. Check freespeechcoalition.com for updates on free speech issues in the adult industry if you're interested. On 1/1/06, Eddie Codel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like a bigger issue is how does someone like blip or Veoh deal with the newly expanded 2257 reporting requirements? Wouldn't they be considered a secondary producer in the eyes of the feds? -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] I Dream of Rocketboom
haha, your mental image of Andrew Baron is pretty funny... -josh On 1/2/06, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past four days, Amanda Congdon has been in my dreams five times. (Don't worry, I'm not complaining... I think Amanda is clever, beautiful and utterly hilarious). The other night I dreamt that I met her along with Andrew Baron Cohen (who I have NO IDEA what he looks like but my mind invented an image of a tall slim brown-eyed and brown-haired man with a goatie). After meeting the two of them and helping them edit a portion of Rocketboom by showing them how to use a certain effect, I told Amanda that I met her a few times this week in my dreams. After being a little weirded out by my statement, they later continued to chat with me and told me I should make an homage episode to Rocketboom (Richard Show-style). In the first dream I had this week starring Amanda, I walked up to her on the street in NYC and said hello to her she replied by asking me whether I had raised money in advertising yet... What does all this mean? Is Amanda a metaphor for my conscience or a beacon to tell me to keep striving? Ah well, if someone's going to haunt my dreams, thank goodness it's someone like Amanda Congdon! Happy new years everyone... and sweet dreams. Kitka http://www.kitkast.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] I Dream of Rocketboom
here's andrew... http://www.dembot.com/006223.html -Josh On 1/2/06, Joan Khoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... Funny, I imagined him tall (between 5 10 and 64), blonde with short hair, average build. I also have no idea how he looks like. Are we completely off the mark? Anyone? :) Joan On 1/3/06, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past four days, Amanda Congdon has been in my dreams five times. (Don't worry, I'm not complaining... I think Amanda is clever, beautiful and utterly hilarious). The other night I dreamt that I met her along with Andrew Baron Cohen (who I have NO IDEA what he looks like but my mind invented an image of a tall slim brown-eyed and brown-haired man with a goatie). After meeting the two of them and helping them edit a portion of Rocketboom by showing them how to use a certain effect, I told Amanda that I met her a few times this week in my dreams. After being a little weirded out by my statement, they later continued to chat with me and told me I should make an homage episode to Rocketboom (Richard Show-style). In the first dream I had this week starring Amanda, I walked up to her on the street in NYC and said hello to her she replied by asking me whether I had raised money in advertising yet... What does all this mean? Is Amanda a metaphor for my conscience or a beacon to tell me to keep striving? Ah well, if someone's going to haunt my dreams, thank goodness it's someone like Amanda Congdon! Happy new years everyone... and sweet dreams. Kitka http://www.kitkast.com Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] professional vlog start up
Rocketboom uses MovableType. A lot of people use Wordpress and it gives great results too. -Josh On 1/1/06, Misha Kleider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i would like to start up a fancy looking vlog. is movable type the format to use or should i make my own set up starting from scratch? what would you recommend. oh, what does rocket boom or other really successful vlogs use? thanks, kind regards, misha kleider Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Why LIFO? Any way to change to FIFO in Blogger?
other blogging engines, like TypePad, allow you to reverse the order of posts (ascending or descending order). BLogger is really limited when it comes to customizations. -Josh On 12/31/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here's a dumb hack: suppress printing the date by editing blogger template *once* to either remove or hide date header using CSS (again, back up your template before making changes). when posting, set the publication date to one in the past so that articles go in the order you want type the real date in the post if you need to display it you may also wish to suppress the archive's too and use your own index (which can now be in the first post) markus Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've found the main failing of blog software. Hidden archives. Broadcast Machine might be what you are looking for. http://participatoryculture.org/broadcast/ It lists your videos in order. Thanks for the suggestion. I checked out Broadcast Machine. I hate to be picky, but it does not integrate the text with other media in a fluid way. I like the embedded quality of the video in Blogger. I also like the fact that so far I do not have to learn code and can post and edit quite easily in a spiffy template. Broadcast Machine has a rigidity of its own. I guess I am looking for a hack or a plug-in for Blogger that would reverse the order of posts and would allow one to EASILY create a table of contents rather than the buried archives. I yelled easily becaue I am sure it could be done with code and with a lot of bother each time you posted. Thanks for your consideration! I love this list! Happy New Year. Stan -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.orghttp://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.orghttp://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.comhttp://xpressionvlog.blogspot.comaim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
typically they play the videos much larger than their original resolution, so some distortion is inevitable when viewed at that size. -josh On 12/31/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been testing Google Video some more. So far, the video compression is really bad. Has anyone seen a nice looking video on Google Video yet? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
Also superceded by compression in Flash 8, but you need to upgrade Flash plugin to view it. -josh On 12/31/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been testing Google Video some more. So far, the video compression is really bad. Has anyone seen a nice looking video on Google Video yet? I suspect they're using the Flash 7 compression which is Sorenson. Sorenson was considered OK at one time but is now superceded by 3ivx and others. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Which video file types can iMovie import?
mpeg-4 is a container format. It can contain many different codecs. What codec is the mpeg-4 you're working with? Open the file in Quicktime (even if it doesn't play) and press Apple-i for Get Info. This should tell you the codec, among other things. You may need a plugin of some sort to decode the file... maybe Divx or Xvid: http://www.divx.com/divx/download/ http://www.insaneness.com/xvid.html -Josh On 12/31/05, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings everyone, and Happy New Year to those of you down under, Which file types can iMovie import? I tried importing an .mpeg (apparently it's an MPEG-4) but it looks like that's not going to happen. Do I need to convert this to another file type before importing? Man, I've got more to learn that I though about digital video. Thanks for all your help, Harold J. Johnson The Podcaster Herald of Los Angeles http://podcasterherald.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Which video file types can iMovie import?
it might although QT should be able to decode 3ivx on its own without requiring the 3ivx codec. How about this... open the file in QT, press Apple-i, and tell us what codec the video is. Then we can tell you what software, if any, is required to decode it. -Josh On 12/31/05, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might 3ivx be able to decode the file? Harold On 12/31/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mpeg-4 is a container format. It can contain many different codecs. What codec is the mpeg-4 you're working with? Open the file in Quicktime (even if it doesn't play) and press Apple-i for Get Info. This should tell you the codec, among other things. You may need a plugin of some sort to decode the file... maybe Divx or Xvid: http://www.divx.com/divx/download/ http://www.insaneness.com/xvid.html -Josh On 12/31/05, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings everyone, and Happy New Year to those of you down under, Which file types can iMovie import? I tried importing an .mpeg (apparently it's an MPEG-4) but it looks like that's not going to happen. Do I need to convert this to another file type before importing? Man, I've got more to learn that I though about digital video. Thanks for all your help, Harold J. Johnson The Podcaster Herald of Los Angeles http://podcasterherald.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] convert to .wmv
get Flip4Mac Studio: www.flip4mac.com or popwire wmv export component: http://www.popwire.com/product_info.php?cPath=1products_id=7 Flip4Mac is more expensive, but I highly recommend it. Excellent product. Also allows you to import and edit WMV in Quicktime, iMovie, Final Cut. Great for remixing. -Josh On 12/31/05, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way on a macintosh to convert a .mov file to a .wmv file? (I could not find such an option in fcp, imovie, or quicktime pro). ... Richard -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] 3ivx compression -- Help!
You can do two pass compression without encoding once, then doing it again manually. Just set the first pass settings, then set the second pass settings, then leave the compressor on second pass and go to compress the movie. Works the same except you don't have to go through all the steps again to get that second compression. -Josh On 12/30/05, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the point of two passes anyway? I'm unfamiliar with this.Thanks,Haroldhttp://podcasterherald.com On 12/30/05, Michael I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great! The days of 1st pass 2nd pass are over! Thanks for the info.Aloha.andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Tiger, QT7 and 3ivx 4.5.1 I encode to single pass constant bitrate (or single pass average bitrate when file is too big) at 6400 kbits/sec [error in software makes this setting confusing, but thats what I set it at] compressor quality med, high or best, depending on motion complexity of footage (I usually preset at med).maxium quality Quantizer is around 90%-100% (usually 95%)minimum quality quantizer is around 10%frames per second is 15.keyframs forced every 300 delta frames half-pixel motion and four vector motion engaged.Audio is AAC 44.1 128kbsOn Dec 29, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: I've been doing some tests with 3ivx and QuickTime, but have not been getting� file size economy� that is any better than MPEG4 orH.264.� I got the idea of usinig 3ivx from the Rocketboom tools documentation. It was very helpful and generous, but I'm afraid I need some more guidance aboput specific settings.� The whole subject of compression has been, quite frankly, something that I've been avoiding because it is so confusing with its own language and parameters that, to me, don't make much sense.� I am developing a vlog that will a lot of footage of horses in motion. I am trying to keep the bit rate as low as possible to avoid stuttering while showing some sense of motion as clean as possible on DSL bandwidth. What I am looking for from this list is some pointers to instruction about compression that is somewhere between the Freevlog tutorials and the 3ivx documentation.� I'd appreciate any advice.Thanks Stan Hirsonhestakaup.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS �Visit your group videoblogging on the web.� �To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:� [EMAIL PROTECTED]� �Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Watching MP4 on a Mac
Are you on Windows? I wonder if you are having trouble playing those due to 3ivx? -Josh On 12/30/05, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quicktime 6 or 7, VLC, Mplayer, to name a few. If the mp4 wont open in quicktime then its either corrupt or theres something about the mp4 that isnt quicktime compatible (try VLC instead). If you have quicktime 6 and the mp4 is of h264 type then it wont work. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey you crazy kids (of all ages), Simple question: Which application(s) allow me to watch MP4 files on a Mac? I though QuickTime or iTunes would be able to do this, but I'm having trouble opening an .mp4 file I discovered on FreeVlog. Thanks, Harold But you can call me H.J. if you want http://SomethingThatHappened.com our story told through new media Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Watching MP4 on a Mac
right, it helps to pay attention to the subject line disregard my comment. -Josh On 12/30/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you on Windows? I wonder if you are having trouble playing those due to 3ivx? -Josh On 12/30/05, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quicktime 6 or 7, VLC, Mplayer, to name a few. If the mp4 wont open in quicktime then its either corrupt or theres something about the mp4 that isnt quicktime compatible (try VLC instead). If you have quicktime 6 and the mp4 is of h264 type then it wont work. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey you crazy kids (of all ages), Simple question: Which application(s) allow me to watch MP4 files on a Mac? I though QuickTime or iTunes would be able to do this, but I'm having trouble opening an .mp4 file I discovered on FreeVlog. Thanks, Harold But you can call me H.J. if you want http://SomethingThatHappened.com our story told through new media Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Please use cell phone responsibly :)
Not to be a jerk here Devlon, and I think the MeFeedia re-vlog feature is nice, but do we really need a message to this list everytime you re-vlog something? -Josh On 12/30/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For your friends' sake...they might be trying to get a date. I revlogged the Cell Phone clip from bathtubyoga.com's feed via Mefeedia's 'BlogThis' http://mefeedia.com/blog/2005/12/60/ -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com/ Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com/ -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Please use cell phone responsibly :)
I'm deinitely not against people sharing videos and talking about them. I think that's pretty clear from my bio and the work I do to promote videoblogging and develop tools to help spread the medium and culture that has developed organically here. However your repeated statement is: i re-vlogged this with mefeedia, which has little to do with any discussion about the video other than to promote MeFeedia's re-vlogging feature (which I is a nice feature, don't get me wrong). I dunno, I'm just very conscious of not using this group to promote FireAnt. I just haven't felt this is the place for self promotion of that sort... but then again, maybe we should change that... -Josh On 12/30/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I've been sparing you ALL the revlogs I've done. I thought it was a cool post...hm...how could I best post about a cool video I saw, well, I could type up a bunch of shit and add it here, or hey, I could use something else (I picked the blogthis because I am lazy and that was easier). I am sure you aren't against people sharing cool videos they see in the vlogsphere? I chose this group for the place to post this information because it's a group...you know, one for a conversation. But, your point is noted, I'll talk about cool video that I find the old-fashioned way. Apologies for the mefeedia spam to alland I hope my response isn't Jerky ;) On 12/30/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to be a jerk here Devlon, and I think the MeFeedia re-vlog feature is nice, but do we really need a message to this list everytime you re-vlog something? -Josh On 12/30/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For your friends' sake...they might be trying to get a date. I revlogged the Cell Phone clip from bathtubyoga.com's feed via Mefeedia's 'BlogThis' http://mefeedia.com/blog/2005/12/60/ -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com/ Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com/ -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com/ Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com/ -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
Labels, schmabels...make some tech...make some tools. ;) Totally agree with this. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: more on Google Video
they can put ads around it too... though i don't think they have done that yet I believe its on the roadmap. -Josh On 12/28/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Google modify video uploaded to their site? http://www.jasonsalas.com/2005/12/can-google-video-modify-submissions.html jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org They put something like markers for jumping to annotated sections. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: more on Google Video
Oh, and they also show previews of videos from the search results pages... I guess that counts as a modification. They also modify the size of the video and rescale to fit the browser window size if you consider that a modification. -Josh On 12/28/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they can put ads around it too... though i don't think they have done that yet I believe its on the roadmap. -Josh On 12/28/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Google modify video uploaded to their site? http://www.jasonsalas.com/2005/12/can-google-video-modify-submissions.html jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org They put something like markers for jumping to annotated sections. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Google Video Revisited
That's true. Maybe one day it it'll be as easy and cheap to do a video in a blog. While I'm throwing things out here... What if you did TV show as a videoblog? I'm not talking about taking a TV show and distributing it on the web or via iTunes. I mean, what if you designed a TV like show as a videoblog - written in small chunks, with a blog post, permalinks, comments, etc. Maybe it's even interactive like some of the things Andreas and Adrian Miles talk about. But what if was a business - with sponsors and a staff. Designed to make money. I'd still call that a videoblog. Would you? This is Rocketboom.. and yes, its a videoblog. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Google Video Revisited
as neato and whizbang as that sounds in terms of interactivity, its not something that an individual can produce and distribute easily without a highly technical skill set and expensive authoring tools at their disposal. I'm much more interested in the democratizing aspects that are enabled due to the quite simple and elegant videoblog as we know it. -josh On 12/27/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well first of all, the video and the video wrapper are parallel. the wrapper can provide interactive functionality, some of which could be bloggy. possibly even embedding a web browser for bloggy stuff. Ever make a Quicktime Skin? If I were to explain what something like this is to someone else, I'd say it was Interactive Video which has integrated blog, ecommerce, chat, xml channel browser, photo album and send to friend. what do you think? sull On 12/27/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 27, 2005, at 10:23 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: enhanced vodcast I guess what I'm talking about is putting the blog into the video. Can a blog be in a video? -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
I think people too often confuse the what is a videoblog question as though it has something to do with the style of content (or the contents of the content). I would say that videoblogging has nothing to do with content and everything to do with medium. videoblog = video + blog so the question has more to do with what is a blog as that is really the medium. The video is simply a variable element that may or may not be part of a blog entry. Downloadable video is not a videoblog (i.e. Desperate Housewives available on the iTunes Store is not a videoblog... this has nothing to do with Desperate Housewives as content, but everything to do with context). Videoblogs may be video on the web, but not every video on the web is a videoblog. Videoblogs have little or nothing to do with personal video, however the personal video aesthetic may be a good fit for the blogging medium as many blogs tend to come from an individual voice. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
or install this greasemoneky script which does all that for you and provides a nice download link on the page so you can click and save as http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/archives/2005/11/greased_google.php -Josh On 12/25/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ho, Ho, ho! VIA: http://tinyurl.com/9ovn6 How to locate the direct URL of a Google Video: Go to Google Video and find a video. View the page source code and search for the keyword 'googleplayer'. Copy and paste the videoUrl parameter (all of the characters after the keyword 'videoUrl=') Press Ctrl-L to go to URL location bar. Type Javascript:unescape (videoUrl) where videoUrl should be the last parameter you have copied into the clipboard. It should output the actual URL on the broswer, copy and paste that URL onto your browser location bar again to download the FLV movie. Play it with a FLV Player. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
The social experiences in each of these contexts you describe is very different. The audio waveforms may not change, but your experience does. -Josh On 12/25/05, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the point - I'm justing trying to challenge it because I don't ascribe to the McLuhan medium is the massage worldview which seems at the root of the debate. In my assessment, the same video played in different contexts does not necessitate new designations for each context. A song on my iPod is the same song on my home stereo, in my car stereo, from my computer. Different envirnonments produce different experiences and possible forms of interaction but I don't think that requires creating a new term for every possible platform. I'm not on the McLuhan bandwagon and I just respectively disagree and place greater value on content than on medium. That may make me wrong in the world of McLuhan sychophants but in the greater community I think it's a worthy discussion. - but that's a whole other can of worms... Regards, Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are either missing the point or choosing to ignore it. either way, respectfully, you are still wrong. now where is my DXM And I failt to see why that's a problem with semantics. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Google Video Revisited
I'm not trying to get into a web traffic pissing contest, but when people qualify their stats with percentages and make inferences as to some kind of larger trend, then it helps to know the sample size we're talking about and whether or not its statistically significant. -josh On 12/24/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of sounding like a jerk, do you really think your site gets enough traffic to provide a representative sample of anything? Uh, yeah, that did sound pretty jerky. A small sample is nonetheless a sample, especially when it can be compared to itself via relative number of downloads of different formats of the same video. Perhaps my sample of viewers is MORE representative of the general Internet population since my viewers are mostly NOT videobloggers but ordinary folks looking for material about specific topics (Italy, mostly), rather than searching within the general category videoblogs. Videobloggers tend to have every possible video codec installed already; my viewers probably don't. So the fact that they seem to be successfully viewing Flash on my site does seem to me to have some useful meaning to the folks who ask about Flash in this group. As for viewership, we are all (even Rocketboom) way out on the long tail, so I don't see a lot of point in playing My Feedburner's bigger than yours. My audience is small but growing, and I'm having fun with it - that's good enough for me. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Google Video Revisited
for the record, I'm not trying to get into a competition regarding web traffic between one site or another. But yes, I do believe that general statements of trends based on statistics should be qualified by a representative sample size. If I say 50% of my viewers prefer X, and I'm talking 10 out of 20 people, and I know all 20 people because they're my friends, then those stats may or may not be indicitive of any larger trends outside of those 20 people. There is not enough data to make any real claim on anything, and there is certainly no control group to offset any oddities that pertain to the particular sample group. This is statistics 101... -Josh On 12/24/05, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'mm apparently missing half the conversation but... what the heck is FireANT's traffic rpresentative to in comparison to iTunes... and next too google... really all of us are insignificant... But google would never say... what's the significance of my tiny little site ... when someone does a search for michael meiser I'm more than significant enough, in fact I'm the omnipitent mast of my domain bitches. :) This is like rocketboom pissing on other vlogs, not that they have... in the big picture the difference between a rocketboom and a Dierdre Straighan isn't really a difference at all.. their both pretty long tail. What's important is in aggregate we're begining to be one significant as mother fucking aspect of media much like open source software and the blogs that have come before us. So, this sounds like an a-list blogger pissing contest. BTW, on a related note Crooks and Liars trounced Rocketboom in the webbys. I don't know if you follow Crooks and Liars, but if you do you should ask yourself what's significant. Rocketboom is representative of me... Dierdre's website is representitive of me and that's all I give a crap about. It's the first visitor that matters and that's me. http://tinyurl.com/d9s56 original url. http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?range=2ysize=largecompare_sites=rocketboom.comy=rurl=http%3A//www.crooksandliars.com/ On Dec 24, 2005, at 4:28 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: On 12/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of sounding like a jerk, do you really think your site gets enough traffic to provide a representative sample of anything? Uh, yeah, that did sound pretty jerky. A small sample is nonetheless a sample, especially when it can be compared to itself via relative number of downloads of different formats of the same video. Perhaps my sample of viewers is MORE representative of the general Internet population since my viewers are mostly NOT videobloggers but ordinary folks looking for material about specific topics (Italy, mostly), rather than searching within the general category videoblogs. Videobloggers tend to have every possible video codec installed already; my viewers probably don't. So the fact that they seem to be successfully viewing Flash on my site does seem to me to have some useful meaning to the folks who ask about Flash in this group. As for viewership, we are all (even Rocketboom) way out on the long tail, so I don't see a lot of point in playing My Feedburner's bigger than yours. My audience is small but growing, and I'm having fun with it - that's good enough for me. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Google Video Revisited
Umm... then you need lots of little samples as opposed to a single large sample to notice any trends. -Josh On 12/24/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: generally speaking, large sample sizes are *not* required in order for the sample to be representative see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers Deirdre Straughan wrote: On 12/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of sounding like a jerk, do you really think your site gets enough traffic to provide a representative sample of anything? Uh, yeah, that did sound pretty jerky. A small sample is nonetheless a sample, especially when it can be compared to itself via relative number of downloads of different formats of the same video. Perhaps my sample of viewers is MORE representative of the general Internet population since my viewers are mostly NOT videobloggers but ordinary folks looking for material about specific topics (Italy, mostly), rather than searching within the general category videoblogs. Videobloggers tend to have every possible video codec installed already; my viewers probably don't. So the fact that they seem to be successfully viewing Flash on my site does seem to me to have some useful meaning to the folks who ask about Flash in this group. As for viewership, we are all (even Rocketboom) way out on the long tail, so I don't see a lot of point in playing My Feedburner's bigger than yours. My audience is small but growing, and I'm having fun with it - that's good enough for me. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Google Video Revisited
FireAnt for Mac can play FLV, provided that the raw FLV file is syndicated, not the SWF wrapper. FireAnt for Windows does not yet play FLV, but it does play SWF. We are working on improving this. I think there are many benefits to being able to download and cache videos for local playback. This can become especially valuable if you want to watch a lot of videos from a lot of different sources... just the same way that people use RSS now. Some people like web based aggregators, but I've always preferred a desktop RSS reader. Its nice to be able to play videos when offline. I use a laptop and carry it with me, so my Internet connection is not permanent. Its easier to skip around and control your viewing experience when you're dealing with local files... its not about lean back for me. I'm always clicking around on different videos and I really enjoy this sort of freedom in my viewing experience. You cannot do this on the web without siginifcant latency even when dealing with Google Video (I happen to think Google Video is designed to be more of a Lean Back experience). However, not many people are syndicating FLV yet. Maybe because they do not want their video to play in another SWF wrapper. Perhaps they have some branding or special interactivity included in the SWF portion that they do not want to lose in syndication. For instance YouTube has a water mark and a few interactive features that are not part of the FLV but rather part of the SWF wrapper). Most people using Flash Video are not individual video creators, but rather upload-your-video-here type of services (to do Flash Video well is still rather difficult for the individual, there are many steps involved and you have to be rather proficient with Flash, which is both expensive and confusing). These services are probably not fond of the download-and-cache model of RSS enclosures because once the file is downloaded locally then they cannot track imprressions, which may be a core component of their business strategy. The next thing about Flash Video is that downloading it can be easily prevented by a good Flash designer. I'm actually really surprised that Google made it relatively easy to reverse engineer their process so that I could discover the direct download link for the video. I'm sure they do not want people to know about this loophole if they intend to get mainstream content owners to put their stuff onto Google (these content owners would cringe at the thought of people potentially downloading, remixing, redistributing their content). If they wanted to make it easy for people to download, Google could have provided a simple download link, but instead I took the time to do a little hacking with a Greasemonkey script: http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/archives/2005/11/greased_google.php This type of hack is not always available with Flash Video. The YouTube hack relies on another method, which again is a loophole that YouTube could close if they wanted to (and I'm sure they do want to based on some of my discussions with them, they probably just haven't seen the Greasemonkey script yet). I've looked at Brightcove video players and have not yet found a method to download the video files. This is certainly by design -- the Brightcove player is an entire Flash application, not a video embedded in a webpage, so there is very little you can discover from a simple View Source of the HTML. I don't buy the argument that its hard for people to install Quicktime. Its just as hard to install the latest Flash Player plugin if that's the case (the newest Flash Video requires version 8 of the Flash plugin). If you are dealing with some sort of corporate blockage when it comes to installing programs, then you won't be able to install Flash plugin either. All in all I have no problem with Flash Video. I do think however that it is more often used to restrict the freedom of the viewer and control the experience from the point of view of the service provider (which may not be the same as the content creator) rather than to enhance the experience for the viewer. If I want to download and view the video later why shouldn't I be able to? If I want to put it on an iPod, why can't I? If I want to aggregate it with other videos so that I can view things in offline and skip around seemlessly, why not? -josh On 12/23/05, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only problem is you can't vlog it because of the flash wrapper. I even tried vlogging the flash wrapper. Doesn't work. I thought I heard something about a greasmonkey script or plugin for uncovering the permalink directly to the video so you can vlog it. But I never followed up on it and seem to have misplaced the reference. -Mike On Dec 23, 2005, at 1:19 AM, andrew michael baron wrote: Has anyone been keeping up with Google Video? I'm starting to think that it may be a good solution for people who are just starting out or want to incorporate video into their site with links, kinda like
Re: [videoblogging] feed favor
Works fine in FireAnt on Windows. No problem. Haven't tried on Mac yet. -Josh On 12/23/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: worked ok in itunes On 12/23/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this feed crashed my ANT. works on vlogdir's aggregator: http://vlogdir.com/vlog/index.php?op=TemplateblogId=1show=vlog_feeds4feedurl=http://www.kashum.com/rss2.xml On 12/23/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can some of you test this feed in your aggregator of choice. http://www.kashum.com/rss2.xml some people have had problems downloading videos through FireAnt. but it works for me. need scientific proof. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] feed favor
That is very strange. Could you send a log file to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Log file is located in: C:\Documents and Settings\[user]\Local Settings\Application Data\Mycelia Networks\FireANT -Josh On 12/23/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My FireANT rejected the feed... as in.. it appeared as subscribed for 1 second, then disappeared, then fireANT shut itself down.WinXPANT v 1.0.1.28 On 12/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works fine in FireAnt on Windows. No problem.Haven't tried on Mac yet.-JoshOn 12/23/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: worked ok in itunes On 12/23/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this feed crashed my ANT. works on vlogdir's aggregator: http://vlogdir.com/vlog/index.php?op=TemplateblogId=1show=vlog_feeds4feedurl=http://www.kashum.com/rss2.xml On 12/23/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can some of you test this feed in your aggregator of choice. http://www.kashum.com/rss2.xml some people have had problems downloading videos through FireAnt. but it works for me. need scientific proof. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
