Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and aggregators in general
To try to shame those of us standing up for our rights by calling us victims is to miss the point. Corporations, especially when they have capital, have advantages that tilt the playing field in their favor and make it easy for them to take advantage of our small independent operator status. . Nicely said, David! ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and aggregators in general
Let's say you argue that aggregated creators deserve a share of the profits of an aggregator. That doesn't follow from economics. The economic point of view is that investors in the aggregator, its owners, are the ones who deserve a share of the profits, because they also stood to lose money if it lost money. What is the product being sold? That's the question. Of course there are 2 products being sold, and neither of them belong to the video aggregator. One is a profit stream and one is a cost. The profit stream is the advertising revenue based off of the number of eyes they can deliver. The cost is the content required to secure that advertising. There are production costs in the stuff that captures eyeballs. Entities profiting from the sale of advertising based on content have always, and should always pay for that content. They cannot steal it. They have no right to it free of charge. At least buy the CD, man! If you are going to sell it - to advertisers. If people want to give up their rights to their creative work as their intellectual property so an aggregator can profit, hey man, that's cool. Some of us are not willing to part with our rights to our work for profit from any business entity. Some of us are willing to give it to certain businsess entities. Some of us want to sell it to anyone; some of us to select businesses. Point is, that it's our work. If you are going to sell my work to your advertisers via the consumers eyes, you are going to pay me for it. You don't get product for nothing. Business' aren't going to share profit with us as a share of business profits. I don't want to gamble. They are going to share profit with us as a cost of doing business. If they want my work as a product to sell their advertisers, let them buy it like moral economics asks them to; we are not slaves, and we are not without rights. Supply and demand? Perhaps you think investors should be free from having to pay the costs of doing business and obeying the law, but I don't think most people believe that. And of course I'm not talking about google ads and such on personal and community websites and personal aggregators. But when we are talking about million dollar budgets and such, the scope is so entirely different. It's not you copying and sharing a CD for your friends; it's a factory in china ripping us off. Again; big difference. When I buy a house for $X, I stand to lose $X and also stand to gain whatever I can sell it for above $X. If the value of my house goes up because my neighbor painted and fixed up their own place, my neighbor has no claim to my profit. But if your neighbor builds you an addition that raises that selling price, you must pay him, right? You can't make him build your addition. You can, however, negotiate a price for the work. Does that mean he has a share in your profit of your home sale, or does it mean that you paid the cost to improve your home to him? Sharing profits is shorthand for getting paid if your work is for commercial use. You are really mixing up rhetoric with reality. There are people who read my blog in Bloglines, for example, but I make no claim to Bloglines' revenues. If Bloglines goes out of business I lose nothing, so why should I stand to gain if it makes money? Ditto videoblogs and video aggregrators. What if I go over to Bloglines and copy all of your work and release it in a magazine for my profit? How about if I took your 10 best pieces? Would you want to be compensated by me for the usage of your work? Is it wrong if you are willing to give it for free to the readers of bloglines, but not to me for my, or my shareholder's profit? You've entered into an agreement with bloglines. Do you have a username and password? What if I just started grabbing everyone's blog stuff and publishing magazines? Jeez that sounds like a great deal for the blogger! You get exactly what you want, more readers, right? Ask yourself this: if MyHeavy goes out of business, what does it cost you? And how do you know whether they are even making a profit right now? (I doubt they are). The reality is that you don't know or care whether they exist, much less whether they are profitable. The only thing that matters to you is whether *you* are profitable. Again, I want no part of waiting for their profit to get paid for my work, and nobody here wants that either. If you are selling my stuff to your advertisers, you are going to pay me for it. So yea, I don't care whether they're profitable or not, but I don't really care a lot more about whether or not I am profitable. I will not be taken advantage of. Shame on you for making this a ploy for videoblogger selfishness. People in the music business made the same bogus argument over and over again in reaction to third parties who benefit from their work. If somebody sings my song at a birthday party and everybody has
Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and aggregators in general
I don't see how we're asking for expansive rights by not allowing corporations to take our work in its entirety, display it and profit from it with no attribution or direct linkage. I don't see how seeking permission and or compensation for usage of our work is somehow a giant leap. There's some kind of disconnect. Cheers, Ron On Jan 28, 2007, at 11:51 PM, Lucas Gonze wrote: On 1/28/07, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is a big difference from playing a ditty at a wedding and selling CDs by the truckload. They are not like at all. Of course they were wrong to argue that. Under the law there is no difference between playing a ditty at a wedding and selling CDs by the truckload. If it's a reasonable claim against a giant corporation selling CDs by the truckload, it's a reasonable claim against an individual playing a ditty at a wedding. That's the entire reason I'm willing to expose myself to your anger in this conversation. The expansive rights that you and many other videobloggers are asking for would be a catastrophe in the hands of big corporations, and if you get them then they do to. -Lucas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy and Magnify and aggregators in general
All I was really looking for from Magnify was attribution and a link. Any word on that front? I just think it is unacceptable for them to attribute blip.tv and then leave no avenue for their viewer to make it to the rest of my work. Cheers, Ron On Jan 25, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Mike Hudack wrote: Hey guys, I just wanted to give everyone an update on where we stand with MyHeavy and Magnify, since I've met with the CEOs both companies in the last three days. Both of the meetings were for the same purpose -- they took place because people on this list complained about the way the companies were aggregating their videos. The meeting agenda was simple: to work with these companies to allow them to meet their business goals without infringing on the copy or other rights of original content creators. Both meetings went well. MyHeavy removed aggregated video content from its site immediately after we spoke on the phone. This was an easy thing for them to do, since for them aggregation is a feature of a larger business. In the case of Magnify it's much more difficult to do this because their entire business is based on aggregation. MyHeavy is planning to bring aggregation back, but to do so in a way that conforms with the best practices that have been (I believe) largely agreed upon and endorsed by this group. Specifically, they will not include advertising in the playback experience without express permission from original content creators; they will not watermark the video; they will give credit by prominently noting the original source of the video in the form of a link to the original content creator's Web site; and they will allow content creators to control aggregation through support for the MediaRSS restriction standard (whch will be controllable through a MyHeavy aggregation control panel in the blip.tv Dashboard). Magnify continues to aggregate blip.tv video to their destination sites, and they are currently including Google AdSense advertisements on pages that include video players from other sources, including blip.tv. We are currently working with Magnify's CEO to determine how best to address this issue, since Magnify's entire business model is based on the ability to monetize aggregators through advertising. Either way, Magnify has agreed to support the MediaRSS restriction standard in the same way as MyHeavy and others. You will be able to control aggregation to Magnify through a control panel in the blip.tv Dashboard. Because of Magnify's current position on advertising we are considering the possibility of making the default position for Magnify opt-out rather than opt-in (unlike providers who adhere closely to all points of the best practices). Content creators who are okay with player-adjacent AdSense advertisements because they want the extra traffic that Magnify may generate will easily be able to opt in. Please let me know if these are acceptable outcomes for you, and we'll proceed with implementation with both companies. --- Mike Hudack CEO, blip.tv Office: 917-546-6989 AIM: mikehudack Read the blip.tv blog: http://blog.blip.tv/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Paid Subscription + CMS
I like you, am using the video I post to generate traffic and interest in my various websites, but there is a slight difference though. The stuff you sell is not able to be taken from your video content. The stuff I sell is my technical knowledge of dogs, discs, and dogtraining. If I give away all that knowledge, I have nothing to sell. That's bad. Add to it that dog training is extremely simple (technically) and I am in a real bind. As I said, I have no problem entertaining, showing off, helping people out for free with our video blog, but I cannot just give all the really good stuff away, otherwise I have nothing left to earn a living off of at the end of the day. Ron Watson Pawsitive Vybe On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv On Jan 25, 2007, at 3:16 PM, johnleeke wrote: For those of us (you do dogs, I do horses) with narrow niche educational material rather than shows for wider audiences You do dogs horses, I do old-houses; very, very niche. Verdi writes: You could also try giving the videos away for free and make money from the opportunities that arise from that (that's what happened to a number of bloggers and some vloggers). I use that model. Right now people expect to see video on the internet for free, so I go with that flow (row, row, row your boat gently DOWN the stream)at my video blog: http://historichomeworks.phovi.com/ and at my no-cost live video conferences, where they can watch the video conference replays: http://historichomeworks.com/hhw/conf/vidconf.htm which they do by the thousands, world wide (to my amazement): http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/kmi_fm/replaymap.php?pwd=0f3ad1-5717 which helps people understand who I am and what I do, and attracts people to my website: http://www.historichomeworks.com/hhw/index.htm where they buy my print (print on demand) publications: http://www.historichomeworks.com/hhw/reports/reports.htm and hire me for consulting: http://historichomeworks.com/hhw/office/consult.htm that includes onsite training, problem solving, etc. (of course all the onsite work and problems solving provides even more of the attractive content that I consult, write and vlog about. It's a vicious circle, and I love it!) As I build up more video series, I suppose I'll be able to sell them on DVD or subscribed website content, perhaps in a year or two. But right now their highest value seems to be promotional, and they really do well at that. A few of my colleagues are even hiring me to shoot video for them and help them get into video blogging! John by hammer and hand great works do stand by cam and light he shoots it right [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Blip Post Private Password
Hey Mike. I was wondering if there was a way to make an upload on blip private? I am testing a product for a company... aw hell... might as well... Shameless Pimpage: Pawsitive Vybe ( http://pawsitivevybe.com ) is testing the Flashflight Dog Discuit ( http://www.flashflight.com ), an LED lit flying disc for dogs. Feel free to check out a Soupy Disc Jam Special Suprise (Dog Discuit) video: http://blip.tv/file/136521 . I have let some of my dogs work the disc over a bit and would like to send them the results via video. Of course I can post it to one of my sites, but I was wondering if there was a 'post private' or 'post w/password' function on blip. And if there is not, could or should there be? It might be a simple way to enable pay subscriptions. An easy to manage subscription mod would be very nice. I would imagine that many video bloggers could do well with that. A password system where the content creator can change and update the code to ensure that important or otherwise valuable pieces of work are making the money that they are worth. That would be handy for me and my big 2007 Project: Art of K9disc DVD Training Series. I could release without the overhead of pro DVD creation. I could release DVD length instruction, or I could break it down into individual lessons . I could Add and subtract pieces as my knowledge changes, I develop a new techniques, or come up with a new way of teaching something. I would still offer my normal bits and pieces that I am doing now, I really like doing training and performance videos, but there is so much stuff I am not posting because it is too valuable to just give away. Just kind of thinking out loud here, but it seems to me as if this would be a cool idea for many video bloggers. Cheers, Ron Watson Pawsitive Vybe http://pawsitivevybe.com Elsewhere On the Web: http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Paid Subscription + CMS
If you were going to try sell useful educational material on the internet, how would you protect those video froms being wholesale taken on the internets? What precautions would you take? I am thinking of a rotating password that only subscribers can get, but that is about all I came up with. Do any of you have any simple ideas? We have No Budget, BTW. If you are a CMS junkie -- I am currently running joomla, SMF forum, tiki-wiki, mediawiki and wordpress, and I'd rather not have to learn a new CMS. My ideas: The original idea was an instructional wiki CD. Embed all the video. Run xamp or something and keep it local. Linked and cross referenced, it'd be a book/DVD all in one. Then I thought of password protecting a wiki online. I am wondering what iTunes has to off the little guy. ...iTunes...hmmm. Anybody have any experience navigating the iTunes pay for play scheme? I'm going to look into that right now. How many people would pay a few bucks to learn to teach their dog learn to retrieve in just a few minutes? Any help or discussion would be appreciated. Cheers, Ron Watson Pawsitive Vybe http://pawsitivevybe.com Elsewhere On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv On Jan 23, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Mike Hudack wrote: ... Your project sounds really cool, and if you don't require absolute privacy you can simply mark your posts as explicit. This way no one will see your videos unless they explicitly choose to see explicit posts (let's see how many times I can say explicit in one sentence). We've found that this is often an excellent substitute for private video. Yours, Mike -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Watson Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:25 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Blip Post Private Password Hey Mike. I was wondering if there was a way to make an upload on blip private? I am testing a product for a company... aw hell... might as well... Shameless Pimpage: Pawsitive Vybe ( http://pawsitivevybe.com ) is testing the Flashflight Dog Discuit ( http://www.flashflight.com ), an LED lit flying disc for dogs. Feel free to check out a Soupy Disc Jam Special Suprise (Dog Discuit) video: http://blip.tv/file/136521 . I have let some of my dogs work the disc over a bit and would like to send them the results via video. Of course I can post it to one of my sites, but I was wondering if there was a 'post private' or 'post w/password' function on blip. And if there is not, could or should there be? It might be a simple way to enable pay subscriptions. An easy to manage subscription mod would be very nice. I would imagine that many video bloggers could do well with that. A password system where the content creator can change and update the code to ensure that important or otherwise valuable pieces of work are making the money that they are worth. That would be handy for me and my big 2007 Project: Art of K9disc DVD Training Series. I could release without the overhead of pro DVD creation. I could release DVD length instruction, or I could break it down into individual lessons . I could Add and subtract pieces as my knowledge changes, I develop a new techniques, or come up with a new way of teaching something. I would still offer my normal bits and pieces that I am doing now, I really like doing training and performance videos, but there is so much stuff I am not posting because it is too valuable to just give away. Just kind of thinking out loud here, but it seems to me as if this would be a cool idea for many video bloggers. Cheers, Ron Watson Pawsitive Vybe http://pawsitivevybe.com Elsewhere On the Web: http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Fwd: rel=payment/blip
OH OH That's an easy one. There is a button for it in your dashboard. My Account Payment Right there! cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 19, 2007, at 6:14 PM, pepa wrote: -- Forwarded message -- hey guys, does blip still support the rel=payment standard? how could you submit a payment url in your account? : is the information on it up to date on videovertigo.org ? am i missing something? :) thanks, pepa -- mi vlog -- http://vlog.blogia.com mi blog sobre vlogging -- http://vlogsensutinta.blogspot.com mi vlog de mi barrio -- http://playaancha.blogia.com perros vlog -- http://perros.wordpress.com/tag/videos/ mi no-vlog -- http://pepa.wordpress.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] magnify.net ?
What's the deal with these guys? I have a video of mine on a channel of theirs, as seen in VT. I can't find a link back to my site, and that kind of irks me. It also says there are 16 views, but I'm only showing 1 from them on blip, like they scraped a copy with at tag search and encoded it in their FLV. I don't think this fits anywhere near the standards that this list is proposing to be the minimum standards of etiquette. I also sent the video email solicitation from their site to the list so you all could check it out. Let's see if it hits the list. I'll be interested to see what that looks like.
Re: [videoblogging] magnify.net ?
Seems as if it is created by a guy named Steve Rosenbaum: He outlines some plans here: http://www.mediavillage.com/jmr/ 2006/07/25/jmr-07-25-06/ . Steve produced MTV Unfiltered and America's Funniest Home Videos. He's looking to make it better/more safe for advertisers to get to user generated content. I feel as if this is kind of a MyHeavy situation: attribution to blip.tv, no linkage,everything wrapped up in their player. The only difference is there is not the advanced and blatantly disrespect in the ad wrapping. No ads on my vids... yet. Anyway, just thought I'd follow up on that. I'd like to be a part of the local community media in VT, but I would like to have some attribution and ability to reach viewers outside of what is 'anonymously' uploaded. Cheers, Ron Here's the linkage from my previous post as the user generated sharing from http://video.asseeninvt.com/ On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Ron Watson wrote: What's the deal with these guys? I have a video of mine on a channel of theirs, as seen in VT. I can't find a link back to my site, and that kind of irks me. It also says there are 16 views, but I'm only showing 1 from them on blip, like they scraped a copy with at tag search and encoded it in their FLV. I don't think this fits anywhere near the standards that this list is proposing to be the minimum standards of etiquette. I also sent the video email solicitation from their site to the list so you all could check it out. Let's see if it hits the list. I'll be interested to see what that looks like. Cheers, Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: magnify.net ?
That's funny... I only have 9 views for today and when I left As Seen in VT there were 17 views. How does that add up? ron On Jan 16, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Bill Cammack wrote: Yep. I'm watching your video now. It looks like Anonymous did you the favor of posting it! :D blockquote Submitted By: Anonymous on 2006-12-06 About the video: Great crowd, great contest.Stanley #38; Angelo's internet debut.#160;Apryl Lea #38; EZ Ryder plus Ron #38; Splitty #38; Rokalele#160; /blockquote They let you rate and review the video as to whether it fits the site, how long it is, how entertaining it is, whom it's appropriate for... Hosted At Blip.tv | Viewed 40 Times -- Bill C. http://ems.blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the linkage from my previous post as the user generated sharing from http://video.asseeninvt.com/search/?search=frisbeedog http://www.magnify.net/ Cheers, Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] magnify.net ?
What's the deal with these guys? I have a video of mine on a channel of theirs, as seen in VT. I can't find a link back to my site, and that kind of irks me. It also says there are 16 views, but I'm only showing 1 from them on blip, like they scraped a copy with at tag search and encoded it in their FLV. I don't think this fits anywhere near the standards that this list is proposing to be the minimum standards of etiquette. I also sent the video email solicitation from their site to the list so you all could check it out. Let's see if it hits the list. I'll be interested to see what that looks like. Cheers, Ron
Re: [videoblogging] magnify.net ?
Seems as if it is created by a guy named Steve Rosenbaum: He outlines some plans here: http://www.mediavillage.com/jmr/ 2006/07/25/jmr-07-25-06/ . Steve produced MTV Unfiltered and America's Funniest Home Videos. He's looking to make it better/more safe for advertisers to get to user generated content. I feel as if this is kind of a MyHeavy situation: attribution to blip.tv, no linkage,everything wrapped up in their player. The only difference is there is not the advanced and blatantly disrespect in the ad wrapping. No ads on my vids... yet. Anyway, just thought I'd follow up on that. I'd like to be a part of the local community media in VT, but I would like to have some attribution and ability to reach viewers outside of what is 'anonymously' uploaded. Cheers, Ron Here's the linkage from my previous post as the user generated sharing from http://video.asseeninvt.com/search/?search=frisbeedog http://www.magnify.net/ On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Ron Watson wrote: What's the deal with these guys? I have a video of mine on a channel of theirs, as seen in VT. I can't find a link back to my site, and that kind of irks me. It also says there are 16 views, but I'm only showing 1 from them on blip, like they scraped a copy with at tag search and encoded it in their FLV. I don't think this fits anywhere near the standards that this list is proposing to be the minimum standards of etiquette. I also sent the video email solicitation from their site to the list so you all could check it out. Let's see if it hits the list. I'll be interested to see what that looks like. Cheers, Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blip Stats Question
Haha! Mike Hudack... Our Fairy VlogFather. Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 14, 2007, at 9:38 PM, Mike Hudack wrote: I'm hanging out with Brian from AIB right now and he asked me for the same thing not an hour ago. You and Brian will both get your wish very soon. :) - Original Message - From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun Jan 14 20:57:27 2007 Subject: [videoblogging] Blip Stats Question Question for you, Mike, possibly for the group. Is there any way to set up a stats report (or compute the stats somewhat automagically) that tells the content creator which videos are being watched during a time period instead of the simple total that is currently displayed? For instance: I have had about 100 views today, but I have no idea what was viewed. The newest video had about 5 views, but other than that, I don't know what was watched today. This is important to me from a content creation standpoint, as I have several different kinds of videos on the Art of K9Disc show: performances, training, our dog training business, and impromptu jams. It would be great to see which kinds of video are being watched closer to real time. I have a hard time keeping track of the 60 or so vids and their number of views. This one has 132, wasn't it 123 yesterday? I'm not asking for super convoluted, complex stats reporting, maybe just a 'watched today' or 'watched this week' kind of thing. How about a 'track this video' function? Anyway, keep up the good work. Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blip JPEGs
Uploading myself straight out of iMovie. I thought this is the way that I did it since I started, but perhaps I am wrong. If this is happening just because I created them without paying attention to the size, I'm gonna feel a bit foolish. Cheers, Ron On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Mike Hudack wrote: Hey Ron, Are you uploading these yourself or asking blip to generate them for you? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Watson Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:52 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Blip JPEGs Hey all, I'm having some issues with my thumbnails from blip on my WP blog: http://www.pawsitivevybe.com/vlog/ . This is a straight crosspost from Blip. Anybody have a clue as to why the images are all over the map in terms of size? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Ron On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: This is the most exciting idea since Blip first came out. Want to echo previous sentiment re: your handling of MyHeavy.com, too. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Will save me bunches of time. Yeah. XOXOXOX, Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Internet video patent suit hits Google and Apple
My buddy was part of the Basmati Rice triumph. It seems that a big conglomerate ag biz (Monsanto?) decided that it was they, not the indigenous Indian farmers that spent the last 2000 years perfecting that strain of rice, owned it. Vindina Shiva (sp) is one of my heros. Indeed, patent law has become entirely skewed in favor of corporations. Which should be no suprise. Big companies have hundreds of millions, billions and possibly tens of billions, if you count their cartel organizations such as the Chemical Manufacturing Association, to pour into legislation and lobbying. This is exactly why I get so charged up when talking about keeping citizen media free and realizing the disturbing power inequity between this community and corporate media. I just don't think that many people have a clue about unchecked corporate power and how it impacts their everyday life. I'm shutting up now... Cheers, Ron On Jan 11, 2007, at 1:42 PM, sull wrote: I just recently watched the documentary The Future of Food. If you want a dose of true patent absurdity and corporate abuse... watch it. Gets into patenting life via genetics, as it relates to agriculture mostly. Sick World. On 1/11/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive read about it elsewhere and the patent seems real enough. For me the biggest absurdity is the patent system in general, that lets these over-generalised patents be granted in the first place. We can only hope that saner attitudes prevail if/when this one comes to court. An even more extreme example I recall from the past was here in the UK, BT the telecoms giant thought that an old patent they had was describing the very concept of hyperlinks, and that they should therefore be considered the patent-holders for that rather essential web technology. It didnt stand up in court. Anybody know much about the differences between European and US patent law? I believe that in the US you are allowed to patent 'business processes', something thats not true on this side of the pond. And then more recently there was some hoohar about whether the EU would accept software patents, cant remember what happened with that 'initiative', think it stalled for now. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this true!? Because if it is this is the hieght of absurdity and I know a WHOLE lot of people who will want to here about it so they can laugh and laugh... and then cry. It's the first I've heard of such a thing, that's for sure. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog On 1/9/07, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.out-law.com/page-7623 Google, Apple and Napster are being sued over their online video businesses by a company that stopped offering internet video years ago. Intertainer holds a patent that it says is being infringed by some of the tech world's biggest names. The company now only consists of two people, according to press reports, but it will seek to assert its patent rights in a Texas court after filing an action on 29th December. It had applied for a patent covering internet video distribution, and that was awarded in 2005. Intertainer was founded in 1996 to distribute films over the internet and won investment from Sony, Microsoft and Intel. It stopped that business in 2002. The company holds nine patents, and the current action is based on US patent number 6,925,469, which covers the distribution and management of digital media files. Intertainer is seeking an injuction and unspecified damages from the three companies and it is thought likely that it will pursue further suits if this one is successful. Intertainer founder Jonathan Taplin told the New York Times that the company would now begin a patent licensing business. Intertainer was the leader of the idea of entertainment on demand over internet platforms before Google was even thought up, he said. The choice of a Texas court is likely to have been influenced by the reputation that some Texas courts have for handing out patent- related judgments favourable to patent holders. Intertainer did not file the application for the patent in question until 2001, five years after the company was founded and after some companies were already offering video and audio material for download. That delay in filing could complicate the company's claims. Google owns YouTube, which leads the world in internet video. The site offers short clips of often amateur-produced content for viewing on computers and was bought by Google for shares worth $1.65 billion last autumn. Apple owns and operates iTunes, the world's
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Super Happy Vlog House 2007
We're in... http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/Grand-Rapids?doneSave=1 Cheers, Ron On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Robyn Tippins wrote: I would be interested but I do not know where I will be living come April That's exactly what I was going to answer. We are moving, but not sure where, so I am also not sure where we'll be. Robyn From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heath Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:49 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Super Happy Vlog House 2007 I would be interested but I do not know where I will be living come April heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow... anyone? Anyone at all? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , Susan kitykity@ wrote: Happy 2007! I have been going crazy between moving, work, and everything else... but now that we are in the new house, I wanted to stir back up discussion about Super Happy Vlog House! http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/ It will be April Fool's Day Weekend. Ryanne had the awesome idea that we should have them across the country, so that people could have the chance to host one, and perhaps some wouldn't have to travel as far. I think that's an awesome idea! If you have a house you'd like to offer up, please add it to the wiki. Also, I had come up with the concept of having different themes for each house--like mine will be a music video theme, where others might have a fiction story theme, or a diary/journalling theme, or an interviewing theme, etc. This weekend is not for vlogging awards. It's not for just sitting and listening to lectures. It's about working on our own videos for our video blogs, meeting up with friends, and bouncing ideas off each other for 24 hours straight (and then some). So if you'd like to be involved, and if you'd like to attend, please let me know. You can email me or post your thoughts and ideas to the wiki. Can't wait to see you at the house! Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com PS - I'm working on a music video right now as I type--of course, it's another Adam song, but not a collaboration this time--keep an eye on my vlog for it to show up in the next couple days! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Super Happy Vlog House 2007
Dogs pretty much does it. We are pretty well connected with all things dogs here in town. Training, Filmwork, Agility, Flyball, Frisbee, Dock Diving, Rescue, etc. Cheers, Ron On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Susan wrote: Excellent! Thanks, Ron! Do you have a vlogging topic in mind for your location... outdoors expeditions, nature, animals? Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're in... http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/Grand-Rapids?doneSave=1 Cheers, Ron On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Robyn Tippins wrote: I would be interested but I do not know where I will be living come April That's exactly what I was going to answer. We are moving, but not sure where, so I am also not sure where we'll be. Robyn From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heath Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:49 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Super Happy Vlog House 2007 I would be interested but I do not know where I will be living come April heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , Susan kitykity@ wrote: Wow... anyone? Anyone at all? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , Susan kitykity@ wrote: Happy 2007! I have been going crazy between moving, work, and everything else... but now that we are in the new house, I wanted to stir back up discussion about Super Happy Vlog House! http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/ It will be April Fool's Day Weekend. Ryanne had the awesome idea that we should have them across the country, so that people could have the chance to host one, and perhaps some wouldn't have to travel as far. I think that's an awesome idea! If you have a house you'd like to offer up, please add it to the wiki. Also, I had come up with the concept of having different themes for each house--like mine will be a music video theme, where others might have a fiction story theme, or a diary/journalling theme, or an interviewing theme, etc. This weekend is not for vlogging awards. It's not for just sitting and listening to lectures. It's about working on our own videos for our video blogs, meeting up with friends, and bouncing ideas off each other for 24 hours straight (and then some). So if you'd like to be involved, and if you'd like to attend, please let me know. You can email me or post your thoughts and ideas to the wiki. Can't wait to see you at the house! Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com PS - I'm working on a music video right now as I type--of course, it's another Adam song, but not a collaboration this time--keep an eye on my vlog for it to show up in the next couple days! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Blip JPEGs
Hey all, I'm having some issues with my thumbnails from blip on my WP blog: http://www.pawsitivevybe.com/vlog/ . This is a straight crosspost from Blip. Anybody have a clue as to why the images are all over the map in terms of size? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Ron On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: This is the most exciting idea since Blip first came out. Want to echo previous sentiment re: your handling of MyHeavy.com, too. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Will save me bunches of time. Yeah. XOXOXOX, Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] FPS setting for high motion video?
Where do people stand on framerate these days? Whilst I find 15fps is ok for certain kinds of contents, it noticably spoils the experience for me when there is lots of movement going on. Anybody know what framerate much of the flash-reencoded footage ends up as from the likes of blip.tv etc? Cheers Steve Elbows I would be interested in this discussion as well. Can 15 fps deliver nice video with high motion? I think the .mov files I post at http://k9disc.blip.tv do a pretty good job, and I believe they are 15 fps. (Pick an outdoor vid for high motion.) Can I do better with a different frame rate? I just went with 15 because I thought it would at least be an even motion, being half ntsc and all. I'd love to hear more about this. Cheers, Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: FPS setting for high motion video 15 or 29.97
Wow! What a difference... I checked my cpu usage on each playing in QTPro and there was a difference: 29.97 fps ran @ 23-25MB and 15 fps ran @ 21-22.5MB - fairly negligible on my machines... I wonder if will have greater impact on other people's machines. The entire tone of the video was different. I have uploaded the new video: 29.97 fps: http://blip.tv/file/get/K9disc-RememberTheSun2997Fps973.mov 15 fps: http://blip.tv/file/get/K9disc- theArtOfK9DiscRememberTheSun514.mov It is a huge improvement, and am thinking I am going to do all my stuff on 29.97. I had no idea the file size was so similar. Anyone know what this does to the Flash versions in terms of quality? Thanks so much Steve... Cheers, Ron On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Mike Hudack wrote: The issue with 15/30fps is not just file size. CPU utilization is also a concern. H.264 and On2 VP6 (Flash 8 video) are extremely CPU-intensive, and other codecs are as well but to a lesser extent. Going from 15 to 30 fps doubles your CPU utilization on decompression. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:31 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: FPS setting for high motion video? Those do seem quite good. I suppose there may be other factors which make some of the 15fps stuff Ive seen seem much more jerky than your videos, Ive never worked out why I seem to notice it more with certain videos, and be put off it, and not others. I guess 15fps might be slightly less appropriate for people in PAL countries where the standard framearate is 25, and so 15 is not halving the framerate. But I think theres some other factors at work, dunno. Last time I discussed this here, it seemed I was in a minority with my complaining about 15fps. Certainly traditional TV, and some areas of the 'science of motion pictures', suggests that 25 or 30 fps, 50 or 60 fps interlaced, is necessary to give results that really look smooth to the mind (similar to rate of fluorescent tube lighting rate needing to be 50Hz or much higher to avoid the brain picking up flickering). And some gamers spend quite a lot of money trying to get high framerates of over 100fps for maximum gaming experience, but I guess just like resolution, video on the internet has proved that much lower rates can be gotten away with without totally spoiling the experience. If anybody is curious Id say just try encoding your footage at the native framerate of your camera, and see how much you can or cannot tell the difference. Your files wont end up twice as large or anything like that, under most circumstances, for reasons I wont waffle about right now. I guess its probably not worth losing any sleep over either way, would love it if people ocasionally revisited the issue rather than everyone 15fps-ing it just because its what they've gotten used to doing, but the more I think about it the more I recall how unimportant it seemed to end up when I waffled about this 18 months-2 years ago. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be interested in this discussion as well. Can 15 fps deliver nice video with high motion? I think the .mov files I post at http://k9disc.blip.tv do a pretty good job, and I believe they are 15 fps. (Pick an outdoor vid for high motion.) Can I do better with a different frame rate? I just went with 15 because I thought it would at least be an even motion, being half ntsc and all. I'd love to hear more about this. Cheers, Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Defending the Creative Commons license
This could be a great relationship. They need exposure and we need protection. It's a great opportunity. I can't believe that you heavy hitters have not totally hooked up with them (like I hope we do because of this situation). A cool public service campaign drawing attention to CC licensing and basic media netiquette would be huge, and this community could pull it off. CC needs exposure and ubiquity and we need protection. It's a match made in heaven. I am well aware of my CC licensing, and it's shortcomings (Our BIG project for 2007, a discdog training series, will probably not be CC...), but I really rely on the protection from exploitation, the likes of MyHeavy, so much. I would never post video without that protection. Someone talked about feeling degraded,at a basic level, by My Heavy because their work was feeding consumerism; I couldn't agree more. I think a collaborative effort to define and publicize CC licensing between this community and the CC folk could really give the whole Open Source movement a serious megaphone; one that could rival the Corporate Media and the Closed Net Movement. Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 5, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Casey McKinnon wrote: Further to my last post, I have just called the Creative Commons office in San Francisco and they are currently looking into our case to see how we should prevent such problems in the future. The person I spoke to had previously been contacted by a fellow videoblogger and a lawyer about the MyHeavy case, so we shall see what she suggests to us as a community. I will inform you all of her opinion when she replies to me. Best, Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After the whole MyHeavy debacle, I believe it important to discuss our Creative Commons licenses. I don't believe we need to change anything about the licenses because they are pretty thorough already, but since this is the second (known) time that we have had an issue with sites disregarding our licenses, I think it's important not to sweep it under the rug too quickly. I believe our next step should be to reach out to the Creative Commons community and ask them for an opinion and how we should deal with the situation in the future. The truth of the matter is that most of us do not have the funds for legal representation so we need to figure out what options are available from the larger internet community. I have no doubt that the good people at Creative Commons have dealt with situations like this before and I believe that they may have a lot to contribute to this discussion. Best, Casey --- Casey McKinnon Executive Producer, Galacticast http://www.galacticast.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses
Didn't our Republican led government just hamstring our ability to get together to form class action lawsuits? Or was that just for medicine? Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Enric wrote: Two words for that: class action ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that we should blog about this, but I also feel they should not get the traffic... so perhaps we shouldn't link to them. I really wish we all had lawyers right now. Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Forget posting messages to MyHeavy, post your messages where the investors will see them. John is right.everyone should blog about it. this is your power. this is also how we all can educate... we can also point to these blog posts in future incidents. anyone have an old Veoh post when they were re-uploading videos to their service? jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com Tinfoil Version...
I don't want to be a broken record, and I really hate to admit that I might have tinfoil hats tucked away for easy access, but if I were interested in putting down citizen media, and I had billions of dollars at my disposal, I would create a legal black hole to put folks like Blip out of business. It seems to me that Mike, and all of us, have 2 choices here: fight a David v Goliath through legal channels, or ignore it and become assimilated into the corporate media machine. Neither one is very appealing to me. Anyone else have any thoughts about this? I want to know how these jokers got millions invested in them? (squares up tinfoil hat...) And furthermore... What would be better than for open media to be killed by some of their own: young, goatee'd, hip, etc? Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Casey McKinnon wrote: I agree that we should blog about this, but I also feel they should not get the traffic... so perhaps we shouldn't link to them. I really wish we all had lawyers right now. Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget posting messages to MyHeavy, post your messages where the investors will see them. John is right.everyone should blog about it. this is your power. this is also how we all can educate... we can also point to these blog posts in future incidents. anyone have an old Veoh post when they were re-uploading videos to their service? jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses
They are modifying my video and releasing it under a different license for profit and they are not giving me attribution. Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 4, 2007, at 1:32 AM, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/3/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze lucas.gonze@ wrote: This is a link being fetched on the client side, not a copy on the server side, so it's not a copyright issue. I see what you mean. They're pulling to the FLV file from blip.tv and supimposing in flash they're own material on top. Regardless of the method, the presentation and action is breaking the CC non- commercial license. They are presenting through their flash player a video that they are not licensed to present. Their flash player is displaying frames of video without the rights to do that. Media (bytes) that they don't have a right to is being pulled through their player which resides on the client side. Firefox is licensed to present any material. Neither is Internet Explorer. The player doesn't need rights here. I think there's a clear difference between the building the CBS Jumbo-Tron is on and the CBS Jumbo-Tron. If the CBS Jumbo-Tron shows video without license then it is the right of the one being infringed to have that desist and request compensation. A custom flash player written by online video company MyHeavy.com that overlays their logo, display ads on top prior to rolling and such is clearly different to any observer and the consumer from a browser. We can discuss the technical differences through many messages. But this product is obvious to any consumer, technical or not, as a commercial presentation of a video. And even if it did, so what? You have zero chance of controlling the behavior of all the third parties who can author an FLV player in Flash, while you definitely have the ability to force them to respect your wishes using Referer headers. That puts the responsibility on the content creator to continually hunt down infringers and put them on notice. There's no incentive to stop future infringement. It's like spam filtering. You could insist that spammers stop if you yell STOP loud enough, and you could even put your theory into practice by yelling until you ran out of breath, but you wouldn't achieve anything. Installing a spam filter would be a better idea. MyHeavy (and Veoh before them) are not spammers. They don't move to a new server, zombie a computer and such to continue their work. They are companies or individuals that will act professionaly if incentivized. -- Enric [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com Tinfoil Version...
I agree with both of you. The problem here is, that, like it or not, we have very little clout; a couple hundred thousand hits, hell a couple million, isn't even a drop in the bucket. We are very narrow in our reach. Especially as we tend to not lend our support to the mass markets of YouTube and MySpace. Sure our shit is better, but so was Beta. Raising some shit is good, but a protest requires one of two things: media coverage to pressure the powerful or fear of the rabble storming the castle. This is the main reason that the pro-peace protests in the run up to the US Invasion of Iraq did nothing; there was no media coverage, and contrary to the Johnson-Nixon era, there was no fear of the rabble storming the castle. How do we give our protest teeth? How do we get the corporate media to cover things that run against their interests? Or... How do we get them to fear us storming the castle? Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 4, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Mike Hudack wrote: It's a really big Internet, and Heavy is much more concerned with the 17 year old boy sitting in front of his computer at 11 PM than they are with you. How much influence do you have over that kid? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Van Dijck Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:28 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com Tinfoil Version... Seems to me that we are doing quite well raising some shit. Don't think that laywers is the only thing a funded company is afraid off. Users raising shit scares them even more. Peter On 1/4/07, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to be a broken record, and I really hate to admit that I might have tinfoil hats tucked away for easy access, but if I were interested in putting down citizen media, and I had billions of dollars at my disposal, I would create a legal black hole to put folks like Blip out of business. It seems to me that Mike, and all of us, have 2 choices here: fight a David v Goliath through legal channels, or ignore it and become assimilated into the corporate media machine. Neither one is very appealing to me. Anyone else have any thoughts about this? I want to know how these jokers got millions invested in them? (squares up tinfoil hat...) And furthermore... What would be better than for open media to be killed by some of their own: young, goatee'd, hip, etc? Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Casey McKinnon wrote: I agree that we should blog about this, but I also feel they should not get the traffic... so perhaps we shouldn't link to them. I really wish we all had lawyers right now. Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget posting messages to MyHeavy, post your messages where the investors will see them. John is right.everyone should blog about it. this is your power. this is also how we all can educate... we can also point to these blog posts in future incidents. anyone have an old Veoh post when they were re-uploading videos to their service? jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ my job: http://petervandijck.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] why it's important to get angry DO SOMETHING
Rhett, I envision you reading this as a statement from behind a podium. What if we all made solid articulate speeches, in a standard, 'mainstream' media environment. It should be easy for us to put together a podium and some decent lighting to at least replicate a 'mainstream' standard of broadcast. A statement like this, Rhett, read in a professional manner, accompanied by a bunch of others, could be a nice personal statement of our capability, our vision and our values. Personal statements are very important. I did a piece last year that made a national impact on the attempted destruction of Social Security. Right after this there was a rush to put a human face on Social Security. Check it out: http://www.dailykos.com/story/ 2005/2/21/4231/23967 . The issue was dead in 3 weeks. Personal appeals for fairness from the Person of the Year vs. de- regulation for corporate interests and other for profit legislation. The PR matchup looks good on paper. Of course it could be terribly boring, but we are all right here on the cutting edge of this medium. We know what it's all about. Perhaps this could be our play to be 'experts'. I haven't been that politically active, as I've been trying to start and maintain a business, but I do know that regular old people need to hear from the people on this list. My township council meeting last night glossed right over the 'local control of cable' fiasco that the corporate media are pushing here in Michigan. It was little more than half a sentence from the council member that attended a meeting. This is great stuff, Rhett. I am sure you could deliver it with passion and conviction. We all could. If that were played side by side with the shuck and jive of a media cartel CEO Net Neutrality would be a slam dunk. Maybe my councilman could have googled a video that told a different story about Net Neutrality and the attempted stamping out of an open and free internet by corporate interests I know that I am conflating only semi-related issues, but they have the same core. blah, blah, blah Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 4, 2007, at 11:00 AM, J. Rhett Aultman wrote: When I see a company stealing my video, putting their ads on it, not respecting with attribution or linkbacks, I get angry. I don't think it's because someone is profiting of my work. It's more like, they are *breaking* this new world we are trying to build. They are going against the reason why we are doing all of this, a possibility of a future where we do own our media, at least part of it. I'm not afraid to admit that I am mad that someone else is earning revenues from my work. Here's why-- establishing the bare-bones studio we now have has cost me very dearly. It's not only cost me money, which I don't mind parting with. It's cost me serious amounts of time. This is time I've diverted away from other things in my life, like working on my doctoral thesis. I've put all this labor into Freetime because I've believed in what I was doing and have believed that, in time, Freetime would begin to move under its own momentum. I've never taken a dime of revenue from my work. The most I've ever taken in compensation was a couple of free dinners when I spent a month working on a music video for a band. I've not tried to put a revenue model into Freetime because I haven't come up with a way to do it that didn't insult the subscribers or start to make Freetime become about making money. Freetime has had a financial goal of at best, break even, which is something that I figured we might do through revenues that don't come directly from Freetime. So, where I take umbrage is that MyHeavy.com has basically made it a fait accompli. They're now out there using my videos to create direct revenue through money-making models that I consider insulting to my audience. Moreover, they don't care. They didn't come to me and ask how I felt about the use of my content in such a way. I wouldn't have consented, even if they offered to share the money with me. I don't want my work being used in that fashion. It's more important that I preserve the cultural qualities of the project over any business model, because, for this project, I consider those to be most valuable. So, yes, I'm mad that they're making money off of it because they're basically making money by debasing my content. I'm even more mad that they're doing it without my consent. I'm even more mad than that because they know that they're doing it without my consent and they think that I won't notice, care, or stand up for myself. I'm also mad because they're also either using their made-up base of videos to fleece investors or their investors are just as crooked. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime [Non-text portions
Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses
On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been following this post. Fascinating stuff. Sull, Jay, Mike H, Enric... and everyone who's posted you all rock! I'm so glad we're getting beyond the knee jerk reaction and into the nitty gritty. I read every single comment in both threads... something like 140 comments. Riveting. What about a hotline, just like this that follows the practices of web media distribution? Or a watchdog group. The action, reaction on this list was amazing: Problem announced action reaction. A flurry of action and our megaphone's power clicked on. A hundred little videoblogs turned into a network. If our emails trickled in over the course of, say, several months, what would the reaction have been? In the battle against corporate media and communications giants, this instant chorus from a million voices from a million places, is probably citizen media's lone advantage. Maybe we should think about nurturing, learning about and harness that ability. Or is it working fine? Is the distributed nature of our reaction the way things should operate? It sure worked well here. Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] www.jeroenwijering.com
I got a boatload of hits from there as well the other day. I would like to know what's up with that as well. Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Rob Parrish wrote: Hey all -- Happy New Year! One of my Next To Heaven posts got a high number of referrals from www.jeroenwijering.com However, my site doesn't seem to be mentioned on www.jeroenwijering.com Anybody have an explanation for this? I assume this has something to do with the flash work that Jeroen has done. Rob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses
How many of these kinds of 'businesses' can media creators handle and still participate and/or eek out a living? How many of these kinds of 'businesses' can Mike Blip take on from a legal standpoint? How did the clowns that run Myheavy.com get a buy in from Cingular for advertising? This looks an awful lot like astroturf to me. Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:10 PM, David Howell wrote: Sweet. Maybe they will actually pay my $68,000.00 bill I sent them then! (and then David woke up to the smell of tasty tasty pizza) David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://heavypr.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/online-media-daily-101206/ BROADBAND VIDEO SITE HEAVY.COM WEDNESDAY unveiled its newest channel, Heavy's Angels, featuring clips submitted by 20 female video creators. The 20 selected angels were among hundreds of applicants who submitted original videos to their MyHeavy.com profiles this summer. Each week, the vloggers will upload new clips, and those that draw the most views per month will win prizesincluding a Honda Civic, a Mini Cooper, and a Scion TC. So.. where do they get the money for all the nice prizes..? -Chris On 1/3/07, johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus they are stamping their logo right on top of my video. Absolutely reprehensible ! John -- -- http://www.ChrisDanielVideos.com (video blog) http://nTune.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] sensible storage for DVD
Hey guys. We are doing a DVD series, and are shooting lots of footage, much of which could be used later. I don't have a ton of HD space 240GB spread between 2 mac G4 laptops and 1 150 GB external HD, and that gets eaten up fast and is hard to manage when I am just dealing with DV. I am wondering what is my best bet for storing lots of video footage to be exported to DVD later. Keep in mind that the footage is humans throwing and dogs chasing Frisbees and is high motion. I'm sure Verdi covered this on the list here, and is probably in his book (which I plan on purchasing), not to mention on his website but surfing the web has become a painful experience for me as I am now officially in the boonies and have a terrible connection. I feel guilty about this, but I am just dreaming about a new cellular tower going up around here. A quality link would be appreciated. A discussion would be better. Oh, I almost forgot... HAPPY NEW YEAR! Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Fun legal developments
Really nice thoughts, MIke. ron On Dec 26, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Mike Meiser wrote: It is hysterical. It's contrary to not only to the very notion of media, but also contrary to the current momentum of what's going on web wide. Not only are all the major video hosting sites encouraging linking and especially embedding their videos in other webpages, but the business models such as advertising are starting to endoctrinate and embrace this model too. The point being a view is a view... you can't stop it, so why not put the add in the video and embrace and encourage it. The rules of the changing despite what copyright says, because some of the more extreme fringes of copyright is directly at odds with fundamental properties of the digital real and the internet. Necessity is not only the mother of innovation, but of change... and not even law can stand against it. Since we've begun video podcastin in 2004 the mediated web has gone from one of scare online culture to a web of rich and diverse culture of music and video and photos and mp3's. General perceptions of giving it away for free have nearly done a 180 in recent years. I remember when only a few years ago you were lucky as hell if you could find a downloadable movie trailer... it was all WMV, Real or nothing... now your movie doesn't exist unless you have atleast one downloadable movie trailer... movie studios have learned to let go and embrace the free sharing as a matter of marketing. It's the same way with mp3's and artists... and can you believe that in a time before flickr people only used to share thumbnails of their images... where now 90+% of flickrites allow you to download 4, 7 and even 11megapixel photo originals. Now we can laugh about this judge who thinks it's illegal to link directly to videos, but when Lucas Gonze started webjay only a few years ago he risked serious legal peril for hot linking to mp3's on the open web. If I'm proud of one thing it's that the media rich culture has in the last 2 short years exploded. Someone once said that we had to drag american culture out onto the open web kicking and screaming... and we so have. Five years ago height of popular culture was britney spears... now it's dominated by the likes of youtube and other services... which really is all about hundreds of thousands of people... I think it's safe to say in only a few short years we've made the cultural transition from a culture dominated by television and radio to a culture dominated by the internet and with it a whole new cornicopia of participatory culture has awakened. Some people may point to television and radio and popular music and say they haven't really slowed down... but who said they would? Certainly not me... while we are transitioning away from such a culture where television and radio dominate... the irony is they will not shrink... in fact they will be free to grow. It's not a zero sum game... the market doesn't just move from one place to another, it grows... why? The longer the tail the bigger the head... Because we're in a culture of appreciation for one.People aren't born appreciating design, or music, or hollywood movies... these are not instinctual... they are not even necissary, they are aspects of participation and appreciation of culture, just like art... the more participation the more appreciation, the more growth... This is why you don't find world class fashion designers in small town america... they move with the heard in new york or paris or elsewhere... because more competition... more designers creates more appreciation for design. We're all clothed... we don't need the gucci... yet still we want the gucci... the why is the story of the future of all intellectual property. And so it does with music and movies. Participation breeds appreciation. Secondly, because the global marketplace believe it or not is not totally saturated with american culture and technology... we've in fact barely scratched the surface. 5-10 years ago there were people in poverty in china than there were in the whole western world combined... they have increasing buying power... I'm not saying they're going to all rush out and buy american culture at all... in fact I'm sure we'll do as much buying of chinese culture as they do U.S. but it's such a hugely untapped market... and the same goes for india, and africa and south america. Right now the U.S. consumes something like 1/3 of the world's resources. That's changing. In summary... the market for intellectuall propery is EXPLODING... after years of being put on the shelf or more the couch millions of consumers world wide are becoming creators... we are just at the very very start of this future. The internet like the printing press... like the discovery of the new world is a change which will take centuries to play out. But it's going to create a cornicopia of intellectual goods... of music, writing,
Re: [videoblogging] Re: RSS as Relationship Tool
Well, I'll add some totally unrelated experience and analysis. I play Frisbee with my dogs. We do it at an elite level. If you've seen discdogs on TV more than once, you've most likely seen me and some of my dogs. Discdoggers have had a very rough time as a community. Talk about fractious, petty and downright nasty, some of our history makes Amanda Andrew look like a kids spat. Anyway, let me share with you my understanding of the problems in our community, and how and why I think it went down. I've seen the same things play out in Japan and Europe, in the discdog community, and I am sure that it is some kind of human dynamic when it comes to semi- professional knowledge and talent based endeavors. OK. So, in the mid-90s, we had a couple of creative personalities that started doing a lot of training, and they were good at it. These creative people were good friends and shared their knowledge freely. Each person benefitted from this shared knowledge and their relationship. Needless to say there was some kind of split, and each creative person went their own way. Taking their knowledge, their 'stuff', that they once shared freely with them. It became 'my stuff' - 'my knowledge' . He is taking my stuff. He didn't come up with that, that's my stuff. Both of these people started to teach and to develop their own organizations based upon 'their stuff'. 'Stuff' that they developed together. Now She is profiting from my stuff! and vice versa. Because it is a small community, and personal relationships are the glue that hold it together, factions developed based upon each person's clique. These factions grew to large percentages of the community, as one could barely do anything without encountering one faction or the other. One of the main focuses of the split were on making money: I don't want my money going to that organization. I don't want to pay his bills. This soon got out of hand, and the one thing that could not be done was to do something for profit within the community. Somebody would get pissed off and cause a stink. Then their friends would hop on the bandwagon, and the project would get shut down because it was too much of a hassle. Discdogging is a real passion for people, and changes to the ability to express and engage in that passion are a serious issue to all members of the community. That's it, in a nutshell, I think. I think that this comes into play in this community as well. I taught Verdi how to do that! Now he's writing a book. Dude, Hudack got that idea from me. and so on. As people split off and take away the knowledge that was freely given and shared, and profit from it, it causes problems. Add to it the 'sellout factor' for BIG MONEY, and we have some serious opportunity for nastiness. That no-talent Congdon... and so on... So that's what I think the dynamic is, and I don't think it bodes well for free and open collaboration. In fact, I'm surprised that this community is as open and free as it is still. I really hope that continues, as I have learned boatloads from this community and hope to do so long into the future. I hope nobody took offense at my purposefully clumsy statements of fake-fact. I was simply trying to make a point. Some of my solutions to this dynamic, in the disdog world, which is still an ongoing endeavor: Make sure that I always remember who taught me what, and cite it, like a footnote: Marcus Wolff taught me this. I learned this one from Craig Rogers. etc. Do good by the community: I have given lots of people lots of stuff for free. I am always approachable and available at events, and I even go out of my way to help people out. If they are working on something and I can help them, I bust on in and help them. Speak up when something needs to be said: and say the things that are on the community's mind but are not getting exposure. Steve Elbows is a good example in this group. Anyway, I just thought I would share some of my experience in this thread, as I do believe it is applicable to the situation with online video distribution and specifically with the lack of collaborative energy right now. Cheers, Ron Last year, Network2 probably would have gotten On Dec 20, 2006, at 3:02 PM, leanbackvids wrote: Thanks Sull for the background info. Ironically the conversation about collaboration has halted. Someone posted the other day that we are in an Age of Narcissusism. Maybe it is generally true that vloggers are self-driven, and that is the reason community collaboration has been difficult. The part that has always frustrated me about the level of community participation is that it IS self-rewarding to contribute and collaborate with various sites. This Yahoo group is a perfect example... How many people have a vlog but remain lurkers here? Those who post regularly have become known in the community. Technically, it is probably
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Time Magazine's Person Of The Year
Funny you said that, Mark. When I saw the cover i thought them was who they really meant. It's always Us v Them, and over the last couple years I've begun to realize that the real dangerous entity on the planet is You; we are the new Other. If you take a real cynical view of the goings on in real politik: GM Foods, 'Free Markets', War for Profit, Environmentalism, and a host of other 1st tier global issues, and it is the people of the world that are the real impediment to gaining or keeping a monopoly on power. So I agree with you, Mark. Way to boil it down. Cheers, Ron On Dec 18, 2006, at 10:38 AM, mark raheja wrote: from deep inside the echo chamber, it's hard to disagree with 'us' being Time's People of the Year. but to state the obvious: the main reason this is the case is because we scare the living crap out of *them*, specifically. we scare the living crap out of them because their business model is at risk. no cultural/informational/socio-economic phenomenon has ever been as hyper-relevant to the people who make this annual decision as this one. in fact...if anyone watched the CNN recap of Time's choice for 2006, you'll remember a part where about 40 people are sitting in a room and one of them points out the irony in celebrating the very people that are threatening their jobs. [paraphrasing...the internet has stolen my memory...] Kim Jong Il may be one threatening dude [unless you've watched Team America: World Police], but he ain't as directly threatening to the owners staff of Time Magazine as you are. -M mark raheja www.thememeingoflife.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 416.451.3640 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging]
Hey Enric, Is there any way to make a link below my embedded video vPIP that would play a different filetype in place of the other? For instance: Set up the vPIP pic as mymovie.FLV and have a link underneath that would shift the target file to mymovie.MOV. I embed everything in my site in Flash so everyone can see it. I'd like as many people as possible to have people view my files in Quicktime though as the quality is just so much better. Really what I want is to have my cake and eat it too. Is there any way to do that? Is it an interesting idea for a future release? Thanks. Cheers, Ron Watson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Chroma Key iMovie...
Anyone have any opinions on Stupendous' Masks Composting plugins for iMovie 06? Just installed FCP and it looks to be a bit much for my everyday production. Cheers, Ron
Re: [videoblogging] Brightcove
Here here! Blush some more, buddy. I will never forget your personal attention to a brand new video podcaster. That was so cool! That was just about a year ago. Thanks again Mike! Cheers, Ron On Dec 14, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Mike Hudack wrote: You're making me blush, Doug :) On 12/14/06, Doug Sapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank You Mike. The best thing about blip.tv is that Mike is always available to assist you. On 12/14/06, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also here: http://sappdvfilms.blip.tv/ On 12/14/06, Doug Sapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] dougsapp%40gmail.com wrote: Yes I do. ** *Our brightcove page.* http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid285076669 Our blip.tv page. http://blip.tv/posts/?user=SappDvFilms -- Thank You Doug Sapp Sapp DV Films SDVOB 1518 South 4 Street Dayton, WA 99328 Office: 1 (509) 279-0325 Cell: (509) 520-5438 Big Dog Video Blog is a Sapp DV Films company. Sapp DV Films is a Service Disabled Veteran Owned business. (SDVOSB) http://bigdogvideoblog.blogharbor.com/blog http://www.sappdvfilms.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Thank You Doug Sapp Sapp DV Films SDVOB 1518 South 4 Street Dayton, WA 99328 Office: 1 (509) 279-0325 Cell: (509) 520-5438 Big Dog Video Blog is a Sapp DV Films company. Sapp DV Films is a Service Disabled Veteran Owned business. (SDVOSB) http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid285076669 http://blip.tv/posts/?user=SappDvFilms http://bigdogvideoblog.blogharbor.com/blog http://www.sappdvfilms.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Sorry Amanda, please don't think I'm piling on you. It's just that a straw broke the camel's back. Why must people keep talking about the MSM... As if it's mainstream! It's a Corporate Media, and there's nothing 'Mainstream' about it. Mainstream media would have 5 second commercials and freedom to download and distrubute. That term, Mainstream Media, or MSM gives them far too much credit, and does us a disservice by placing us and Responsible Media Outlets in the 'outside the mainstream' category. Using the term MSM and Mainstream media putting us in poor position to argue that we, PEOPLE, are the future of media. I'm glad you got a shot, Amanda. It must be awesome. Sorry about your business issues, all of you, but PLEASE stop calling it the MSM. Cheers, Ron On Dec 13, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote: Ugh. I know. It's giving me heartburn. That's why I'm venting on my personal site. I am working very aggressively to get a lot of things changed regarding the entire look and feel. While it is slow working with msm, they've listened to me so far about nearly everything ... so I'm hopeful we'll get many of the user experience issues resolved. It involves abc thinking differently about a lot of stuff, but that's a good thing. That's what needs to happen anyway. And they've told me that's one of the reasons they hired me-- to help them make sense of this whole new media world-- so I wouldn't be doing my job if I wasn't going to work to make them less TV-ish. Thanks for your insights everyone .. I'm going to use it as evidence if you don't mind! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel its likely that the non-enclosure feed and popup stuff is part of ABC business strategy rather than technical boob. I would think the lack of enclosures reflects a desire to control distribution, ensure adverts are watched, and monitor viewing figures. The popup gives all the video on the site the same technical backend and frontend. It allows them to squeeze in another ad banner, and providae linkage to all the other video sections they have. It enables them to not have to think too hard about what impact the video will have on the rest of the main site pages. I think it will be hard to get them to change most of this, unless they change their online video strategy in general. Do ABC currently do any true podcasts/video podcasts at all, in the true downloadable sense? From a technical standpoint they could slightly reduce the hideousness of using popups if they used a 'virtual popup' which is something that looks like a popup window but actually is part of the main page, so it doesnt get blocked by popup-blockers or cause a mess by opening more actual windows on the viewers computer. Same tech as lightbox/ thinbox etc use, eg the excellent vPip can work in a thinbox mode (for example click the 'play in thickbox link on this page: http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/ ) But I still think the adverts are far more annoying, although I was unlucky as the first tiem I watched it was a hideous animated ad banner that jiggled at the bottom the whoe time and distracts the eye from the video portion of the screen. I havent really checked out whether feedback/comments etc are going to be a weaker experience for your ABC viewers than it was for your rocketboom viewers back in the day. at least ABC are promoting the idea of viewer feedback via video to some extent. Its quite interesting to me in that you are the first 'new media' person I have seen cross over into an area of mainstream media where they are trying to adapt to what new media has been doing for years. Your experiences with how creative control issues, as well as technical limitations imposed from above, pan out will determine just how much both you and your viewers will get to enjoy this experienced. Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Amanda Congdon amanda@ wrote: Hey Jez, We will definitely have a subscription option. Right now they have one, but it doesn't support enclosures. This is my #1 priority. Oh, and Adam, you are right. You don't know me. And it's clear you don't Andrew very well either. Interesting that you automatically take what he says as fact. Maybe because I'm just a dumb blonde. I'm with Josh. The lawyers will unearth the truth in the end. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Rayner jeremy.rayner@ wrote: Good to see you on techie topics again Amanda, any chance the RSS feed could be fixed so that I can subscribe with fireant (Error parsing channel feed http://blogs.abcnews.com/amanda/index.rdf ) Ciao Jez. http://jez.blip.tv -- Groovy Engineer http://javanicus.com/blog2
Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
This medium is going to be lost because people don't know how to talk about it. As if the Corporate Media is just going to give this shit away. Language is a powerful tool, and the Corporate Media are masters at manipulating it; that's what they do. You can say MSM or Mainstream all you want. It ought to really help people understand the reality of our mediascape when it comes time for them to have to be informed to make a stand to protect people's rights to access and create media. Us 'outside the mainstream' ought to do well in the battle of public relations. So frustrating. I'm going to try to just shut up now. ron On Dec 13, 2006, at 7:06 PM, Charles Hope wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Amanda, please don't think I'm piling on you. It's just that a straw broke the camel's back. Why must people keep talking about the MSM... As if it's mainstream! It's a Corporate Media, and there's nothing 'Mainstream' about it. Mainstream media would have 5 second commercials and freedom to download and distrubute. Let me guess. You were born in the year 2017 and you're here scrounging for parts to fix your time machine. Awesome! I hope I live long enough to see your future, but in 2006, ABC is still unquestionably mainstream. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Great Joomla plugin
Holy Cow!
Very sweet new mambot, or plugin for Joomla.
You can embed video with a simple expression such as: {movremote}
http://url.com/filename.mov{/movremote}, making it easy for multiple
user blogs.
Compatible with YouTube (minus branding, yay!).
This is exactly what we were talking about earlier in that Joomla/CMS
thread.
I think it might be here.
Check it out:
on my site:
http://k9disc.com/joom (migration in progress, so forgive the lack of
content)
And Joomlaworks Site for download is:
http://tinyurl.com/yxdbal
Very cool stuff, be sure to check it out.
Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://pawsitivevybe.com
http://k9disc.blip.tv
On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:56 PM, JV wrote:
I try not to spam the group, but I'm really stoked about the progress
we are making with Stage6. It has a long way to go. I know. In the
mean time we are taking one little step at a time.
There are a lot of little improvements with channel promotions, better
embedding and what not. The thing that I am the most excited about is
bringing together socially conscious web video producers into a common
arena. In addition to treehugger.tv, we have greenpeace and we also
just had Witness sign up. I've seen a lot of activity on videos like
Steal This Film (the Pirate Bay Doc), The Corporation, Manufacturing
Consent. We also are working with Creative Commons on their Birthday
Party.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7142
http://stage6.divx.com/TreeHuggerTV
http://stage6.divx.com/Witness
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_Features
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_News
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_Shorts
http://stage6.divx.com/members/83077/videos - Other stuff
I know many of you are working with Ben on some interesting stuff on
and offline. I'll be there at CES pitching in.
So long story short, thanks to everyone here that is using the site.
If anyone has questions or suggestions, Ben and I are around (I read
the group daily). I apologize for the spam, but I am just chuffed at
how things are going and I am looking forward to adding more and more
every day.
Cheers,
Jim V
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Re: [videoblogging] Great Joomla plugin
Mike the Blip Crew:
I did not see your name in the list of supported video affiliates.
I haven't used them all, but youtube and google I believe have the
code {youtube}filename{/youtube} which is a really sweet feature.
Perhaps you all could hook up.
There have been 55,000 views of the plugin, and I think it has been
online as a non-beta for about 1 week.
This is some hot stuff.
http://joomlaworks.gr
I'd love to cod my vids: {blip}filename{/blip}
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
Holy Cow!
Very sweet new mambot, or plugin for Joomla.
You can embed video with a simple expression such as: {movremote}
http://url.com/filename.mov{/movremote}, making it easy for multiple
user blogs.
Compatible with YouTube (minus branding, yay!).
This is exactly what we were talking about earlier in that Joomla/CMS
thread.
I think it might be here.
Check it out:
on my site:
http://k9disc.com/joom (migration in progress, so forgive the lack of
content)
And Joomlaworks Site for download is:
http://tinyurl.com/yxdbal
Very cool stuff, be sure to check it out.
Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://pawsitivevybe.com
http://k9disc.blip.tv
On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:56 PM, JV wrote:
I try not to spam the group, but I'm really stoked about the
progress
we are making with Stage6. It has a long way to go. I know. In the
mean time we are taking one little step at a time.
There are a lot of little improvements with channel promotions,
better
embedding and what not. The thing that I am the most excited
about is
bringing together socially conscious web video producers into a
common
arena. In addition to treehugger.tv, we have greenpeace and we also
just had Witness sign up. I've seen a lot of activity on videos like
Steal This Film (the Pirate Bay Doc), The Corporation, Manufacturing
Consent. We also are working with Creative Commons on their Birthday
Party.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7142
http://stage6.divx.com/TreeHuggerTV
http://stage6.divx.com/Witness
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_Features
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_News
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_Shorts
http://stage6.divx.com/members/83077/videos - Other stuff
I know many of you are working with Ben on some interesting stuff on
and offline. I'll be there at CES pitching in.
So long story short, thanks to everyone here that is using the site.
If anyone has questions or suggestions, Ben and I are around (I read
the group daily). I apologize for the spam, but I am just chuffed at
how things are going and I am looking forward to adding more and
more
every day.
Cheers,
Jim V
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Great Joomla plugin
Perhaps you should hold out for a few and forward this thread to him.
Had not tried it on the local side.
Not perfect, but so foolproof for sharing video in a joomla community.
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 5:39 PM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Holy Cow!
Very sweet new mambot, or plugin for Joomla.
You can embed video with a simple expression such as: {movremote}
http://url.com/filename.mov{/movremote}, making it easy for multiple
user blogs.
Compatible with YouTube (minus branding, yay!).
This is exactly what we were talking about earlier in that Joomla/
CMS
thread.
Ron,
I gave it a try... I was really excited, too. But there was no way I
could put a jpeg poster frame or still image to link to each video.
It worked fine with the external videos such as from Youtube and
Google, etc., but not my own from my server. I had a few exchanges
with the developer and found him rather snarky about it's being too
much work to do that and why don't I use something else. So I am
testing out Enric's vPIP which, I believe you have been using. The
Joomla plugin can't be beat for ease of use, but I found it too
limiting for my site. If you like, I can forward the correspondence.
Thee are so many great plugins for Joomla! it's a shame this one did
not work for me.
Stan
http://hestakaup.com
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Great Joomla plugin
Probably be best to cold call them, as I have no relationship. That
being said, I'd be happy to contact them for you. You and Blip've
done plenty for me. I remember your personal attention to my silly
issues when I first got started; that was really cool.
It is a bummer what happened to Stan with his interaction with the
developer, disappointing, as I think this is a really cool plugin; it
is an integral feature for my site and our community.
So funny how a simple little interaction like that can color an
opportunity.
Let me know if you want me to contact them.
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Mike Hudack wrote:
Hey Ron,
Is there someone you can put us in touch with over there, or should we
cold call them?
-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Watson
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:34 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Great Joomla plugin
Mike the Blip Crew:
I did not see your name in the list of supported video affiliates.
I haven't used them all, but youtube and google I believe
have the code {youtube}filename{/youtube} which is a really
sweet feature.
Perhaps you all could hook up.
There have been 55,000 views of the plugin, and I think it
has been online as a non-beta for about 1 week.
This is some hot stuff.
http://joomlaworks.gr
I'd love to cod my vids: {blip}filename{/blip}
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
Holy Cow!
Very sweet new mambot, or plugin for Joomla.
You can embed video with a simple expression such as: {movremote}
http://url.com/filename.mov{/movremote}, making it easy for
multiple
user blogs.
Compatible with YouTube (minus branding, yay!).
This is exactly what we were talking about earlier in that
Joomla/CMS
thread.
I think it might be here.
Check it out:
on my site:
http://k9disc.com/joom (migration in progress, so forgive
the lack of
content)
And Joomlaworks Site for download is:
http://tinyurl.com/yxdbal
Very cool stuff, be sure to check it out.
Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://pawsitivevybe.com
http://k9disc.blip.tv
On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:56 PM, JV wrote:
I try not to spam the group, but I'm really stoked about the
progress
we are making with Stage6. It has a long way to go. I
know. In the
mean time we are taking one little step at a time.
There are a lot of little improvements with channel promotions,
better
embedding and what not. The thing that I am the most excited
about is
bringing together socially conscious web video producers into a
common
arena. In addition to treehugger.tv, we have greenpeace
and we also
just had Witness sign up. I've seen a lot of activity on
videos like
Steal This Film (the Pirate Bay Doc), The Corporation,
Manufacturing
Consent. We also are working with Creative Commons on
their Birthday
Party.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7142
http://stage6.divx.com/TreeHuggerTV
http://stage6.divx.com/Witness
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_Features
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_News
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_Shorts
http://stage6.divx.com/members/83077/videos - Other stuff
I know many of you are working with Ben on some
interesting stuff on
and offline. I'll be there at CES pitching in.
So long story short, thanks to everyone here that is
using the site.
If anyone has questions or suggestions, Ben and I are
around (I read
the group daily). I apologize for the spam, but I am just
chuffed at
how things are going and I am looking forward to adding more and
more
every day.
Cheers,
Jim V
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yahoo! Groups Links
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Great Joomla plugin
Very cool discussion...
I love the FCK editor, but tore a lot of hair out trying to get it
configured with all the other stuff in Mambo a couple years ago.
WYSIWYG is almost always buggy, but I do like JCE. I think it will be
nice to have it integrated.
Sorry I have not been up on the development of this plugin, but I
just saw it, and the release was last week I believe.
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
Is this the AllVideo Plugin?
If so its good, and worth talking about, but I dont think its new. I
tried it some months ago and I think the youtube etc etc tagging was
already working. Or maybe it only got out of beta recently, anyway, it
seemed good but like all things has its quirks.
I also see on their news page that theyre having it integrated with
the JCE WYSIWYG editor in the future, which should be very nice. Being
able to link to video with simple tags is nice, but its even nicer
when you just click a button to insert a video.
For example I was looking at this really nice clean and simple but
extensible forum software called vanilla earlier this evening.
FCKeditor is available for it as an add-on WYSIWYG editor, and this
extension comes with a FCKeditor plugin that supports youtube and
google posts. I quite like the way it instantly shows you a preview of
the video so you know youve entered the right one, but Im thinking
there has to be an even easier way to link to youtube etc videos than
cutpasting the videoID? Maybe it wont be so easy, maybe I have a
love-hate relationship with rich text WYSIWYG editors because they add
nice functionality but can be bloated and OTT, but ehres the link
anyway:
http://lussumo.com/addons/?PostBackAction=AddOnAddOnID=178
While we are on the subject, I believe similar is probably available
for drupal, or at least their video plugin supports youtube etc, but
maybe there isnt something to enable easy video within non-video
nodes, cant remember right now. Im out of date with wordpress -a re
there any similar things for it? I guess as there is a basic plugin
for FCKeditor that any CMS etc that can use FCKeditor can have this
capability added?
Cheers
Steve Of Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike the Blip Crew:
I did not see your name in the list of supported video affiliates.
I haven't used them all, but youtube and google I believe have the
code {youtube}filename{/youtube} which is a really sweet feature.
Perhaps you all could hook up.
There have been 55,000 views of the plugin, and I think it has been
online as a non-beta for about 1 week.
This is some hot stuff.
http://joomlaworks.gr
I'd love to cod my vids: {blip}filename{/blip}
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
Holy Cow!
Very sweet new mambot, or plugin for Joomla.
You can embed video with a simple expression such as: {movremote}
http://url.com/filename.mov{/movremote}, making it easy for
multiple
user blogs.
Compatible with YouTube (minus branding, yay!).
This is exactly what we were talking about earlier in that
Joomla/CMS
thread.
I think it might be here.
Check it out:
on my site:
http://k9disc.com/joom (migration in progress, so forgive the
lack of
content)
And Joomlaworks Site for download is:
http://tinyurl.com/yxdbal
Very cool stuff, be sure to check it out.
Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://pawsitivevybe.com
http://k9disc.blip.tv
On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:56 PM, JV wrote:
I try not to spam the group, but I'm really stoked about the
progress
we are making with Stage6. It has a long way to go. I know.
In the
mean time we are taking one little step at a time.
There are a lot of little improvements with channel promotions,
better
embedding and what not. The thing that I am the most excited
about is
bringing together socially conscious web video producers into a
common
arena. In addition to treehugger.tv, we have greenpeace and
we also
just had Witness sign up. I've seen a lot of activity on
videos like
Steal This Film (the Pirate Bay Doc), The Corporation,
Manufacturing
Consent. We also are working with Creative Commons on their
Birthday
Party.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7142
http://stage6.divx.com/TreeHuggerTV
http://stage6.divx.com/Witness
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_Features
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_News
http://stage6.divx.com/Greenpeace_Shorts
http://stage6.divx.com/members/83077/videos - Other stuff
I know many of you are working with Ben on some interesting
stuff on
and offline. I'll be there at CES pitching in.
So long story short, thanks to everyone here that is using
the site.
If anyone has questions or suggestions, Ben and I are around
(I read
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Great Joomla plugin
Not too long ago we were talking about CMS integration, and here is
someone that has done it, pretty well.
I think it would be a good idea to try to get them on board with the
standards that you developers and drivers of video blogging
technology are developing. They can't do that if you all don't talk.
I think this bridge needs to be built, as there are many, many users
like me that are developing communities on CMS systems that are using
things other than wordpress (which I think is rather clunky) and we
need that relationship to develop so our platforms can integrate with
media.
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
Very cool discussion...
I love the FCK editor, but tore a lot of hair out trying to get it
configured with all the other stuff in Mambo a couple years ago.
WYSIWYG is almost always buggy, but I do like JCE. I think it will be
nice to have it integrated.
Sorry I have not been up on the development of this plugin, but I
just saw it, and the release was last week I believe.
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
Is this the AllVideo Plugin?
If so its good, and worth talking about, but I dont think its new. I
tried it some months ago and I think the youtube etc etc tagging was
already working. Or maybe it only got out of beta recently,
anyway, it
seemed good but like all things has its quirks.
I also see on their news page that theyre having it integrated with
the JCE WYSIWYG editor in the future, which should be very nice.
Being
able to link to video with simple tags is nice, but its even nicer
when you just click a button to insert a video.
For example I was looking at this really nice clean and simple but
extensible forum software called vanilla earlier this evening.
FCKeditor is available for it as an add-on WYSIWYG editor, and this
extension comes with a FCKeditor plugin that supports youtube and
google posts. I quite like the way it instantly shows you a
preview of
the video so you know youve entered the right one, but Im thinking
there has to be an even easier way to link to youtube etc videos
than
cutpasting the videoID? Maybe it wont be so easy, maybe I have a
love-hate relationship with rich text WYSIWYG editors because
they add
nice functionality but can be bloated and OTT, but ehres the link
anyway:
http://lussumo.com/addons/?PostBackAction=AddOnAddOnID=178
While we are on the subject, I believe similar is probably available
for drupal, or at least their video plugin supports youtube etc, but
maybe there isnt something to enable easy video within non-video
nodes, cant remember right now. Im out of date with wordpress -a re
there any similar things for it? I guess as there is a basic plugin
for FCKeditor that any CMS etc that can use FCKeditor can have this
capability added?
Cheers
Steve Of Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike the Blip Crew:
I did not see your name in the list of supported video affiliates.
I haven't used them all, but youtube and google I believe have the
code {youtube}filename{/youtube} which is a really sweet feature.
Perhaps you all could hook up.
There have been 55,000 views of the plugin, and I think it has
been
online as a non-beta for about 1 week.
This is some hot stuff.
http://joomlaworks.gr
I'd love to cod my vids: {blip}filename{/blip}
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
Holy Cow!
Very sweet new mambot, or plugin for Joomla.
You can embed video with a simple expression such as:
{movremote}
http://url.com/filename.mov{/movremote}, making it easy for
multiple
user blogs.
Compatible with YouTube (minus branding, yay!).
This is exactly what we were talking about earlier in that
Joomla/CMS
thread.
I think it might be here.
Check it out:
on my site:
http://k9disc.com/joom (migration in progress, so forgive the
lack of
content)
And Joomlaworks Site for download is:
http://tinyurl.com/yxdbal
Very cool stuff, be sure to check it out.
Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://pawsitivevybe.com
http://k9disc.blip.tv
On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:56 PM, JV wrote:
I try not to spam the group, but I'm really stoked about the
progress
we are making with Stage6. It has a long way to go. I know.
In the
mean time we are taking one little step at a time.
There are a lot of little improvements with channel
promotions,
better
embedding and what not. The thing that I am the most excited
about is
bringing together socially conscious web video producers
into a
common
arena. In addition to treehugger.tv, we have greenpeace and
we also
just had Witness sign up. I've seen a lot of activity
Re: [videoblogging] Blip Updates...Questions?
Hey all you blip folk.
I really dig the new changes to the site. It's kind of fun figuring
out where things are.
All in all, I think it is a nice set up easy to find most things.
It's been fun.
Question, though...
Where is the search button when I am on a person's show page?
I can't find it.
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
Not too long ago we were talking about CMS integration, and here is
someone that has done it, pretty well.
I think it would be a good idea to try to get them on board with the
standards that you developers and drivers of video blogging
technology are developing. They can't do that if you all don't talk.
I think this bridge needs to be built, as there are many, many users
like me that are developing communities on CMS systems that are using
things other than wordpress (which I think is rather clunky) and we
need that relationship to develop so our platforms can integrate with
media.
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
Very cool discussion...
I love the FCK editor, but tore a lot of hair out trying to get it
configured with all the other stuff in Mambo a couple years ago.
WYSIWYG is almost always buggy, but I do like JCE. I think it
will be
nice to have it integrated.
Sorry I have not been up on the development of this plugin, but I
just saw it, and the release was last week I believe.
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
Is this the AllVideo Plugin?
If so its good, and worth talking about, but I dont think its
new. I
tried it some months ago and I think the youtube etc etc
tagging was
already working. Or maybe it only got out of beta recently,
anyway, it
seemed good but like all things has its quirks.
I also see on their news page that theyre having it integrated
with
the JCE WYSIWYG editor in the future, which should be very nice.
Being
able to link to video with simple tags is nice, but its even nicer
when you just click a button to insert a video.
For example I was looking at this really nice clean and simple but
extensible forum software called vanilla earlier this evening.
FCKeditor is available for it as an add-on WYSIWYG editor, and
this
extension comes with a FCKeditor plugin that supports youtube and
google posts. I quite like the way it instantly shows you a
preview of
the video so you know youve entered the right one, but Im thinking
there has to be an even easier way to link to youtube etc videos
than
cutpasting the videoID? Maybe it wont be so easy, maybe I have a
love-hate relationship with rich text WYSIWYG editors because
they add
nice functionality but can be bloated and OTT, but ehres the link
anyway:
http://lussumo.com/addons/?PostBackAction=AddOnAddOnID=178
While we are on the subject, I believe similar is probably
available
for drupal, or at least their video plugin supports youtube
etc, but
maybe there isnt something to enable easy video within non-video
nodes, cant remember right now. Im out of date with wordpress -
a re
there any similar things for it? I guess as there is a basic
plugin
for FCKeditor that any CMS etc that can use FCKeditor can have
this
capability added?
Cheers
Steve Of Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Mike the Blip Crew:
I did not see your name in the list of supported video
affiliates.
I haven't used them all, but youtube and google I believe
have the
code {youtube}filename{/youtube} which is a really sweet
feature.
Perhaps you all could hook up.
There have been 55,000 views of the plugin, and I think it has
been
online as a non-beta for about 1 week.
This is some hot stuff.
http://joomlaworks.gr
I'd love to cod my vids: {blip}filename{/blip}
Cheers,
Ron
On Dec 11, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
Holy Cow!
Very sweet new mambot, or plugin for Joomla.
You can embed video with a simple expression such as:
{movremote}
http://url.com/filename.mov{/movremote}, making it easy for
multiple
user blogs.
Compatible with YouTube (minus branding, yay!).
This is exactly what we were talking about earlier in that
Joomla/CMS
thread.
I think it might be here.
Check it out:
on my site:
http://k9disc.com/joom (migration in progress, so forgive the
lack of
content)
And Joomlaworks Site for download is:
http://tinyurl.com/yxdbal
Very cool stuff, be sure to check it out.
Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://pawsitivevybe.com
http://k9disc.blip.tv
On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:56 PM, JV wrote:
I try not to spam the group, but I'm really stoked about the
progress
we
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Al online viewing booms, the amateurs give way to big media
The comparison between the internet and the printing press is fascinating. I agree that there are some very interesting developments during the middle ages as the church began too lose its monopoly on scribing to the more democratized printing model that most definitely are applicable to today's situation in the world of internet video, but there is one startling difference. It was impossible to control the distribution of content in that time. There were no pipes, no tubes, and even the most ruthless and capable despot could not limit the distribution of the written word. Today on the other hand, with the lack of privacy and the breadcrumbs that are strewn about all over in our internet world, I think it can be clamped down on like never before. The move to limit our access to content in order to ensure the big guys ability to deliver their content is a major impediment to distribution and the trackability and lack of privacy make for a different situation from the rise of literacy and the transformation from an institutional scribing system to a more open printing system. I hope that makes sense... Thanks for the interesting reading and thoughts. Cheers, Ron On Dec 7, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Heath wrote: Yes, the small users are driving inovation but sooner or later the big guys take notice and they have money, time and talent. And again, I am looking at this from the viewer's perspective and the average joe.how many average, everyday people who go to work, come home, make dinner and sit down in front of the tube, how many of them are going to watch me talk about the vloggies or bacon or The Ask a Ninja guy(who I love btw) but I wonder, what the cap for this medium is.how many people will want to watch just stuffpeople like to be entertained, bigger is better and so on..will that attitude change? Because if it doesn't It's an interesting thought..I know I don't have any answers, but what else is new.. Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Tames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting article... I think it's dangerous to put too much faith in the belief that trends and outcomes from the past are a reflection of what is happening today and going to happen tomorrow. I think that there's a significantly different thing going on today in the media and entertainment industry than has gone on in the past: end users are driving the innovation, and video blogging is a crisp example of this. I wrote an article for IMAGINE (a trade magazine that covers film, video, and multimedia production in New England) for the Dec'06/ Jan'07 issue titled: Macro Trends in Media and Entertainment, which I subsequently updated: http://kino-eye.com/2006/09/30/macro-trends-rio2006/ Document: Macro-Trends-v2.pdf (PDF, 164 KB) What do you think of my premise? I'm planning to release a Version 3 after I add more video sharing sites and round out the arguments. I'd love some feedback from this group before I complete a new version of the article. Regardless of the fact that the large media players will claim a large percentage of the total media and entertainment activity on the internet, independent producers (video bloggers, independent filmmakers, small organizations, etc) will still have a percentage, and that percentage will be significantly larger than it has been in the past through the hundred year history of cinema, television, radio, cable, and now the internet. So personal and independent media will have much more significant access to an audience than it had before. This is a trend near and dear to my heart that I've been tracking since 1988 when people were saying the Hi8 camcorder revolution would democratize the media. But I argued with my fellow filmmakers back then, access to the tools of production is only 1/3 of the equation. You still need access to marketing to build an audience, and access to distribution. The internet today provides the missing pieces, it fuels word-of-mouth as well as provides an economical distribution medium. David. David Tames, Filmmaker Media Technologist http://kino-eye.com | 617.216.1096 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Media RSS what?
Stan, Nice site. I'm on a cel connection in the middle of an internet black hole in rural michigan, otherwise I would most likely have some nice things to say about your video as well. Anyway, I run both Joomla and Mambo, and I also run a few wikis. I really like Joomla. What additional mods do you have attached to your joomla install? Anything that helps you tailor your site to video? Cheers, Ron http://pawsitivevybe.com I was using vPIP on a mambo install not too long ago, and it was really sweet. YOu should check it out. On Dec 6, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: I really have to join in on this one... I switched from Blogger and TypePad to a CMS because of the constraints that the blogging software imposed on me: the chronologically linear posting, and the way older posts drop into archive ether. I wanted to explore one subject in depth as an on-going process. I wanted to have the posts come off a multi-level menu system so that the visitor could make the choices of what to see based on content, not a linear framework that I imposed The CMS I chose was Joomla! It is a very powerful do-anything package. And, it is true, difficult at times to learn. If you are interested in a very flexible CMS with a large user-base, I suggest you take a look at Joomla! You can see how I have used itg for video on http://hestakaup.com It came with a learning curve but also with a very large user-community for support. The hardest part was when I moved some domains around and I had to get into Apache and .htacess and that stuff. But it was not all that much worse than figuring out a lot of other issues. Now that I have it up and running I am very pleased with it. My background is as a documentary film maker with a need and knack for working with computers. I don't know if I could compare learning Jooomla! to learning FCP... As for why a CMS of any kind... Some of us do not want to do episodic shows or use the so-called vlog as an audition medium for getting into MSM or MSE (mainstream entertainment). We want to explore content and manage our own technology. We want to earn money from our work without monetizing. We want to long-tail it and develop new platforms for distribution and content. Mike Hudack wrote The sooner Drupal goes away the better off we all are. I hope he meant that in some metaphorical sense that has escaped me, but just in case he meant it semi-literally I take it that the CMS like Drupal is a threat to the shows that Blip has been promoting. CMS is ideal for rich media: text, graphics, photos, and videos. The stuff that gets overlooked by Blip. Sorry this is so long, but I felt I had to say something. Stan Hirson http://hestakaup.com (on Joomla!) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's funny my gut reaction was that we had an imposter posting under Mike Hudack, I've never known him to be so blunt and harsh. But then I've got to say, as a non-programmer... drupal, plone and the whole CMS thing... are atrocities that developers foist onto everyday users... oh but look at how great it is, and what you can do with it! He programers it's what YOU can do with it! Drupal, plone and CMS systems are for developers not real live human beings whom are non-uber geeks. I cannot TELL you how many times I've had someone foist drupal, plone or some other CMS on me when all I needed was a PBwiki or a wordpress install. 99.99% of people don't want or need a big swiss army knife of a CMS system. They need the single tool they need and that's it. Just some observations. It's absolutely nothing persoanl with drupal... I actually want drupal and plone and all those other great CMS to succeed... but unless you have a developer on call 24x7 drupal is not for the every user. There, I've really shown my colors. I'm a technological neophyte. The illusion of my knowing anything at all is shattered. :) Peace, -Mike mmeiser.com/blog mefeedia.com On 12/5/06, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol. i suppose, yeah. kinda harsh, even if you're not a fan of drupal. if you dont use it or like it, no harm done. many people do like it and *know* how to use it well. better to have it exist than not ;) sull On 12/5/06, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You ask because you think that's a crzy thing to say? - Original Message - From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue Dec 05 21:05:49 2006 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Media RSS what? are you at a bar drinking beers? On 12/5/06, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [videoblogging] Training Series 'n stuff...
It's been a long time since i've posted here, and I promise, no politics. :-) Training Series We have wanted to create a for profit DVD on discdog training for some time. I am wondering what you all think about the internet delivered video alternatives to that. Up 'til now, we have been nibbling around the edges, trying to give people enough to pique their interest and give them some skills, but holding back the serious knowledge and thoughtful production. Any comments about how to deliver video training for profit, conceptually, in this medium would be greatly appreciated. I think it can be done, but don't have the knowledge nor the time to ensure quality and/or efficiency. Dog training's my business and we're pretty good. I wouldn't want to screw that up. You Tube I am experimenting with You Tube, as their numbers seem to be better - more views. I really don't like it too much, as I think the quality is crap and I don't like the branded player. I'll take blip any day. Like some of the responses already, I want to try to use it to drive people to my other sites. Drupal Does anyone work on Drupal? How does it handle video? Has it gotten any more user friendly, or is it still a pro-sumer kind of CMS? I've worked on it from an admin standpoint before (2 years ago) and it just seemed a bit too techy. Is there GUI admin? I guess I could just install a copy again, but I figured I would ask you all and get all the answers at once. Mahalos I also wanted to thank you all for keeping me posted on what's up. I buried the list into a special folder that I never check any more on my machine. I've been working on my girlfriends iBook and totally realized what I had been missing. Posting all kinds of vids these days. Thanks for the conversation, information and swift kick in the ass in terms of motivation; it's great feeding off your passion. Thanks for all your geekly wisdom. Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://pawsitivevybe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] vPIP and https...
I have a question about vPIP. Does it monkey with SSL at all? I am having a devil of a time with getting my site secured and one of the only differences between the 2 sites is vPIP. I am code challenged, so please go easy on me with the vernacular of the explanation. The site that is trying to be secure is: http://pawsitivevybe.com/ metalworks . You have to make it to the checkout to see the problem. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Ron Watson Pawsitive Vybe Canines 12 E Bridge St Suite G Rockford, MI 49341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.802.8923 http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] vPIP and https...
That is exactly what I was thinking. I also thought that the script was not converting to https: and the browser expects all objects to be embedded with an https: url. The latter would make more sense, as the vpip.js code is hardcoded into the template, is it not?Is there anyway I can tell it to switch to https: automagically like my images do?Thanks for the replies.Cheers,ronI will think about removing it, but I have also thought about On May 25, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello Ron,On 5/25/06, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about vPIP.Does it monkey with SSL at all? I am having a devil of a time withgetting my site secured and one of the only differences between the 2sites is vPIP.I am code challenged, so please go easy on me with the vernacular of the explanation.The site that is trying to be secure is: http://pawsitivevybe.com/metalworks . You have to make it to the checkout to see the problem. Perhaps the problem is that the video is coming from an un-secured site. (So when vPIP puts in the object or embed point to the HTTP URL at blip.tv, you get that warning pop-up.) See ya-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: You can't save Internet Freedom by taking it away [was: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?]
This seems weasely. Why not admit that it is regulation for the Good Cause of Protecting the Internet from Evil?What is weasely is the idea that the internet is not regulated already. The communications cartel has all kinds of regulations that they are operating under. Can't have x% much marketshare, they have to allow traffic to flow over their lines freely, they have to comply with a myriad of laws already. This is not about regulation or de-regulation. this is about re-regulation. These arguments always wind up coming down to regulation or de-regulation, and those 2 terms are fairly meaningless. Things are regulated for good reason: Banks are regulated to protect people's investment. Food is regulated to ensure that we don't get poisoned and spread disease. Pollution is regulated so that we don't all get cancer and die. The media is regulated so we have solid information that we use to effectively govern ourselves. Regulation is something that happens to things that are important to society that are prone to captive markets, cartels and monopolies.De-regulation or re-regulation, really, is something that happens to things that are important to society when cartels sponsor politicians and shower hundreds of millions of dollars on our elected officials and bombard them with propaganda at every turn.I am just so sick and tired of hearing that industry sponsored re-regulation is a good thing. Tell me one thing that has been improved through de-regulation. That cable bill sure went down, eh? Boy those airlines sure have things together, don't they?How about all that raised fuel efficiency by not placing regulations on the American auto companies? Boy, energy markets in California sure went well, didn't they. This whole conversation, especially your guys' semantical arguments over the Bill of Rights, which I enjoyed, remind me of trying to talk to someone from another political stripe about 'socialism'.The definitions are so poor and misunderstood from years of Conservative rhetoric, that people actually think that China and Russia were communist systems. Some even think they are socialist systems. It is so maddening to have conversations where the definition of the main idea is up for grabs.I have been thinking about video blogging some of this, but I am really tight on time, and I am more than a bit afraid to say what I really feel on camera with my face visible. I know that is silly, but I worry about the repercussions of speaking those ideas openly on the other parts of my life. I guess I should stop being such a wimp and just do it, lord knows I feel passionate enough about it. Thanks for the cool conversation guys. ronOn May 19, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Charles HOPE wrote: David Meade wrote: On 5/19/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevertheless, it looks like Charles K. wins this round. The Bill of Rights restricts government power; Net Neutrality restricts the power of the People (who own and control the wires). Says you. :-P Going back and forth on definitions is interesting debate, but I'm still not willing to say "Net Neutrality is about government regulation of the Internet" I'm still saying "No, its about Government protection of the Internet". This seems weasely. Why not admit that it is regulation for the Good Cause of Protecting the Internet from Evil? Another interesting debate on definition would be "The People" ... I guess I'm not willing consider huge corporate conglomerates as "The People" ... and therefore refuse to consider Net Neutrality as a regulation of The People. The standard distinction is drawn between public and private entities. You're using nonstandard terminology. What's wrong with the typical language? SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: You can't save Internet Freedom by taking it away [was: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?]
Another interesting debate on definition would be "The People" ... I guess I'm not willing consider huge corporate conglomerates as "The People" ... and therefore refuse to consider Net Neutrality as a regulation of The People. The standard distinction is drawn between public and private entities. You're using nonstandard terminology. What's wrong with the typical language?You might not be willing to define 'People' as huge corporate conglomerates, but the law does. Corporations have the same rights you have under the constitution. They are a legal fiction: 'artificial-people'. This means that they have all of the same freedoms that you and I have except they have none of the responsibility, and are nearly unaccountable to the laws of our land; and when they are about to be held accountable, they purchase some legislation by sponsoring politicians and news shows. The 14th amendment, the one about equal protection enacted to protect black people in this country, and to ensure that they got fair treatment after being emancipated, has been hijacked to protect corporations, artificial people. After the 1886 Santa clara country vs Southern Pacific RR decision, which set the principle of corporate personhood in motion, artificial people used this 14th amendment far more frequently than did black people. Blah, blah, blah...Point is that the corporation is a non-standard entity. It is both property and person. That is one of the biggest advantages that they have: they are people or property depending on which form makes the most sense from a legal standpoint at the time. Add that legal shapeshifting to the limited liability and freedom from accountability and responsibility, and it should be no suprise that they are making off with the protections and rights of real, live, breathing people. ronn May 19, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Charles HOPE wrote: David Meade wrote: On 5/19/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevertheless, it looks like Charles K. wins this round. The Bill of Rights restricts government power; Net Neutrality restricts the power of the People (who own and control the wires). Says you. :-P Going back and forth on definitions is interesting debate, but I'm still not willing to say "Net Neutrality is about government regulation of the Internet" I'm still saying "No, its about Government protection of the Internet". This seems weasely. Why not admit that it is regulation for the Good Cause of Protecting the Internet from Evil?SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: You can't save Internet Freedom by taking it away [was: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?]
I know people have good intentions (in wanting governments to regulate the Internet to prevent a Tiered Internet).Why don't you just say it, Charles? Why does it need to be implied parenthetically?You are presenting a false dichotomy. We can have regulation and a tier-free internet, or we can give the communications cartel what they want. That is the choice you have given us. What if I said this:I know that the communications companies have good intentions (in wanting governments to regulate the internet to create a tiered system). But, a belief in freedom should guarantee it for everyone, and not just artificial people. (Regardless of whether we agree with them or like what they are doing.) Would it be any less true? Would it still reflect your values?The false dichotomy presented in your argument, and in that astroturf flash movie, is not what this is about. It is a red herring. The freedom sought by this information toll road concept is not freedom to innovate. It is freedom to profit and to control. Innovation is going quite well, with open standards, thank you very much. Firefox rolled out nicely and brought IE to finally improve. Blogger, Wordpress, Mambo, Joomla, Plone, Nuke, Moveable Type, and Scoop all brought us innovation and we ran with it. Now the Googles and Yahoos see it, they are co-opting it. Making it better. Operating under open standards. Things hook up, they work. All that is on the table with this Information Tollroad concept, and we stand to lose it. If it becomes profitable to manipulate bandwidth to steer consumers to product, and is legal to do so, you can be sure that people will be ran right off the Information Superhighway. What about our Freedom, Charles? The freedom to be heard? The freedom to be informed? Aren't there any more rights worth fighting for that protect the freedom of real live breathing people? or does freedom only apply to property and profit these days?ronOn May 19, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello,On 5/19/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Meade wrote: On 5/19/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevertheless, it looks like Charles K. wins this round. The Bill of Rights restricts government power; Net Neutrality restricts the power of the People (who own and control the wires). Says you. :-P Going back and forth on definitions is interesting debate, but I'm still not willing to say "Net Neutrality is about government regulation of the Internet" I'm still saying "No, its about Government protection of the Internet". This seems weasely. Why not admit that it is regulation for the Good Cause of Protecting the Internet from Evil?That then gets back to my original point Which can be said with the saying...The road to hell is payed with good intentions. Or also said with what I believe is a (non-obvious or non-intuitive) equivalent saying...The ends don't justify the means.I know people have good intentions (in wanting governments to regulate the Internet to prevent a Tiered Internet). But, a belief in freedom should guarantee it for everyone, and not just ourselves. (Regardless of whether we agree with them or like what they are doing.) My dilemma is that I believe forcibly taking away someone else's freedom is morally wrong. (You may or may not agree. However, at the moment, for this argument, it's not relevant. What is relevant is that I believe it.) I believe this to be part of morality. As I was growing up, one thing I noticed with some people who claimed they had morals was that they only seem to have it some of the time. They only had them when things were NOT difficult. They only had them when they were NOT tested. They only had them when things were NOT tough. But when it really came down to it, and when things got difficult, when they got tested, when things got tough, they ended up doing the things they said they'd never do. (To me, that meant they had no morals.) To me, it most important to have morals especially with things a difficult; especially when we are tested; and especially when times are tough.To me, this is one of those tough and difficult times.I do NOT want to see a Tiered Internet. However, I must keep my morals. And given I believe that forcibly taking away someone else's freedom is morally wrong. Then I must also believe that regulating the Internet (even to prevent a Tiered Internet) is morally wrong too. I can not do otherwise and still be a moral person.I know this is not what people want to hear. I know that this results in a scary situation. And I know it doesn't seem fair. (But who said life was fair?!) To me, other methods must be used to prevent a Tiered Internet. I was hoping to get a discussion going on what other things we could do. (But it doesn't look like this conversation is going in that direction.) See ya Another interesting debate on definition would be "The People" ... I guess I'm not willing consider huge corporate
Re: You can't save Internet Freedom by taking it away [was: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?]
That is the ninth amendment :"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."On May 19, 2006, at 6:35 PM, David Meade wrote: On 5/19/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do NOT want to see a Tiered Internet. However, I must keep my morals. And given I believe that forcibly taking away someone else's freedom is morally wrong. Then I must also believe that regulating the Internet (even to prevent a Tiered Internet) is morally wrong too. I would argue that you are leaving out a key point forcibly taking away someones rights is a VERY different thing from from making a law that prevents that someone from infringing on an others rights. Is it wrong to make a law that prevents discrimination against a group of people just because that law would remove the right to have a discriminatory school or business?Making a law that takes away the right to act in a way that violates someone elses right ... isn't an immoral regulation. And I'd argue its not taking away a right at all ... its protecting one. -- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: You can't save Internet Freedom by taking it away [was: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?]
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there must be a better way to stop a Tiered Internet (than having governments regulate it).That is a total false dichotomy. That was the intent, the main idea, of that Astroturf propaganda. If we start the conversation with those choices it is a gimme for the communications cartel. This piece was a classic right wing narrative: meddling big government standing in the way of private innovation.All of us on this list know the reality: power hungry communications cartel seeks to control the internet through controlling the flow of information. It is a statement of the power of that narrative that you chose that false dichotomy to start your note. That video played on your fears and made the issue about government regulation instead of private power. That, guys, is how Conservatives win elections. RonOn May 18, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello,I guess what I'm trying to say is that there must be a better way to stop a Tiered Internet (than having governments regulate it).For example...Let's get rid of the laws that prevent cities from setting up free wireless networks. Do the phone and cable companies have government granted monopolies?... let's get the government to take those monopolies away.Help create grassroots (Wi-Fi based) wireless networks. (There's probably one it your area you could join.) This crap -- this tiered Internet -- that the telcos and cable companies are trying to create may be a great motivator for change. Maybe there will be motivation to create new broadband wireless technology (like WiMax but on unregulated bands) that will help form a new super high speed wireless Internet that will be formed by regular people, like today's free grassroots (Wi-Fi based) wireless networks. Like I already said... I'm worried that people's fears about the Internet being Tiered will put in place laws for the Internet as bad or worse than the USA PATRIOT Act. And I'm worried that we'll loose much much more freedom by having laws put in place which are suppose to protect our freedom. See yaOn 5/17/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Enric,I've been thinking about the whole Tiered Internet thing alot. (Yeah, I know people are calling it Net Neutrality now.) And even talked about it with friends and colleagues.And I think there are 2 things that I want #1: I do NOT want websites to have to pay ISPs for access to us.#2: I do NOT want any government to regulate the Internet.While I was talking/arguing about the Tiered Internet, with a friend, he mentioned a saying... the road to hell is paved with good intentions. (Although it may not seem obvious of intuitive, I believe this saying is equivalent to the saying... the ends do not justify the means.)Mass hysteria and fear like this brought us the abomination known as the USA PATRIOT Act -- http://www.eff.org/patriot/I do NOT want to see a law like that applied to the Internet. I'm worried that people's fears about the Internet being Tiered will put in place laws for the Internet as bad or worse than the USA PATRIOT Act. I'm worried that we'll loose much much more freedom by having laws put in place which are suppose to protect our freedom. So while I think that video at dontregulate.org is a bunch of astroturf -- fake grassroots stuff. And I think the stuff about having websites have to pay ISP "protection money" is a bunch of bullshit. I agree that governments should stay out of it and not try to regulate the Internet. See yaOn 5/17/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obfuscation:http://www.dontregulate.org/ http://www.handsoff.org/-- Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Melanie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: For those who don't know, there's a page on the Save the Internet site with banners you can put on your sites ( http://www.savetheinternet.com/=swag). There's even a YouTube video explaining the Net Neutrality issue. All the code is there to just drop into your posts, etc. I posted the video and banners to my site (http://newmediacollective.org) a couple of days ago. I just hope it helps. Melanie The New Media Collective It's a WE thing! http://newmediacollective.org Join the discussion! http://groups.google.com/group/thenewmediacollective-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.casupercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad
Re: [videoblogging] Re: You can't save Internet Freedom by taking it away
Thanks Andy, I can't wait to see it. ronOn May 18, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Andy Carvin wrote: Net Neutrality is not government regulation ... unless you consider the Bill of Rights regulation absolutely... "regulation" is a canard thrown out by the telcos in their million-dollar-a-day lobbying spree in Washington. They're basically asking for the right to not have to play fairly and get away with walling off online content from the public based on their individual profit motives. Go to DC and pick up the latest copy of Roll Call - it's plastered with pro-telco full-page ads. The money being spent lobbying against the public interest is staggering. Last night I participated in a panel of public media activists in Boston's Chinatown. Dan Coughlin of Manhattan Neighborhood Networks gave a great presentation about what's at stake with the COPE legislation (the telco-sponsored House bill that's attacking community media and eviscerating network neutrality). I recorded a podcast of it and plan to post it later today. We also shot the whole panel on dv and will be uploading it in the coming days... andy -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: You can't save Internet Freedom by taking it away [was: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?]
his is just one [set of big corps] against another [set of big corps] and consumers are in the middleIf you don't want to call them a cartel, then don't, but a set of big corps colluding for their own interests, read: profit; is a cartel. Yahoo, Google, etc don't really care. They do proprietary stuff all the time. They don't want equal access, just equal access to their stuff. Besides what's it going to cost to get preferential treatment in terms of bandwidth? $10 million? 20 million? Chump change. I don't trust any of them Markus. One should not trust organizations without accountability or responsibility.I see that Yahoo has a deal with SBC, aka: ATT, to provide internet access: Yahoo/SBC DSL Internet. It sure seems as if they are fighting tooth and nail. You would think that with so much on the line they would not be wanting to put co-brand with their 'opponents' .All I know about this is that some high ranking corporate officials have made some outlandish statements about the internet and what they are going to do or what matters to them.I know that the Information Superhighway is a dead concept. It was hijacked and stolen, and all that is left is e-Commerce. The information Superhighway was given fresh breath by blogging and video blogging and the open source community. Now the communications cartel, or a [set of big corps], threatens to manipulate bandwidth for profit effectively killing off the ability of the little guy to play the game. That is a very, very bad idea. As far as the legislation, I have not the foggiest idea. I just know that whenever [sets of big corps] get together to write legislation that it is never good for people. ronOn May 18, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: Please speak for yourself Ron. I've been studying this issue and lurking on this thread for a while now and it seems to me that there is no single correct point of view here. I'm amazed at the number of misconceptions put forth. For me, this is just one set of big corps against another and consumers are in the middle. I imagine that the governments will just complicate things up as usual. Personally, I don't trust Google, Microsoft, etc. any more or less than I don't trust ATT, Comcast, etc. Both "sides" present views slanted in their favor. Both dis-inform and mis-inform. Again, speaking for me, I see little difference in either SaveTheInternet and HandsOffTheInternet. Markus Ron Watson wrote: All of us on this list know the reality: power hungry communications cartel seeks to control the internet through controlling the flow of information. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?
That is one slick piece of propaganda. Fucking ad men! Brilliant piece from a messaging perspective, especially to moderate Republicans. All the codewords and frames are there: big oppressive government, incompetent bureaucrats, etc.but there was a twist. They actually used an argument that pits the citizen v the corporation. That was kind of interesting. A bit shocking, actually, that they would find it strong enough an argument to include it with the old standards. I guess there is something to that people before profit argument. Thanks for this. While we're on the subject:I drove by an ATT billboard that said in clearn, Apple/ATT lettering on ATT blue and logo: podcast Then they promised to deliver in the fine print. And the poor lil' communications cartel can't afford to do what they promise, so they need to set up entire new pricing scams to make more money. Screw them!Scumbags. Don't they even care what they look like? I guess they figure all we got as far as media is bullshit anyway, why should they worry about throwing more around. On May 17, 2006, at 4:02 AM, Enric wrote: Obfuscation: http://www.dontregulate.org/ http://www.handsoff.org/ -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Melanie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who don't know, there's a page on the Save the Internet site with banners you can put on your sites (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=swag). There's even a YouTube video explaining the Net Neutrality issue. All the code is there to just drop into your posts, etc.I posted the video and banners to my site (http://newmediacollective.org) a couple of days ago. I just hope it helps.Melanie The New Media Collective It's a WE thing! http://newmediacollective.orgJoin the discussion! http://groups.google.com/group/thenewmediacollective YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: I'm baaaack! Business Vlogs
I am using selected posts from blip: http://k9disc.blip.tv for our business.Pawsitive Vybe Canines: Dog Training, Performance ArtWe are opening our brick and mortar tomorrow, and will be opening our online store as soon as our payment provider and ssl set up gets done. Up until last week, we have been using our video blog to capture some of who we are and what we do: studio tests, basic interaction with the dogs, training, Frisbee, etc. I did a product demo the other day, and hope to be doing many more, as we do have some really cool products. You can check out our first product demo here, and can check out the rest of our site here: http://pawsitivevybe.com .Our wordpress videoblog is here: http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog .Feedback would be greatly appreciated. Later,RonOn May 15, 2006, at 5:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Duh, I just realized that iTunes has a "business" feature on the podcast page... http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewRoom?fcId=131711393pageType=playlistsid=33 -Matt YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: My daughter has a video blog.
Great job Rainlin! Next time make sure your room is clean and your bed is made. I can't tell you how many shots I've ruined with that mistake. ronOn May 14, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeap, I bet you all knew this day was coming.http://www.rainlin.comHow many people can say they own a domain name that is their first name?Rainlin took these movies by herself, before I even knew what she was doing. Then she came up to me and said, "Mommy, can we make me a video blog now?" She's been asking me for weeks.So I sat her down in front of Roxio, and an hour later she cranked this out. I swear, she did 99% of it herself--there was only 2-3 times I actually touched the mouse. I was amazed.Oh--by the way--she's seven years old. But if you watch the video, you'll catch that. ;)I set her up a feedburner account too: http://feeds.feedburner.com/rainlinSusan http://vlog.kitykity.comThis was so much fun to watch from her point of view. ;), Enric SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] WIRED: Could High-Def Choke Internet?
YES! Toll Lanes! To finish, no less!From that excellent article:"Traffic just isn't moving up that fast," Burstein said. "It will go up and it will go up faster, but not fast enough to be dollars and cents that really matter."Internet video is still just a small fraction of the total amount of video people watch, and that's unlikely to change overnight, in Burstein's opinion.In fact, he said, internet traffic has increased much more slowly than the prices of internet-carrying equipment like switches and routers have fallen, and that trend is likely to continue.Burstein believes the danger of letting the carriers charge extra for guaranteed delivery is that they'll put the spending for upgrades into creating that extra "toll lane," and won't reduce oversubscription in the rest of the network even though it would be cheap to do so.Both Verizon and ATT have said they won't degrade or block anyone's internet traffic. But it's impossible to tell what goes on inside their networks.Compare that with the mumbo jumbo here:"The plain truth is that today's access and backbone networks simply do not have the capacity to deliver all that customers expect," according to Tom Tauke, Verizon Communications' top lobbyist.The solution, of course, is to make the pipes connecting to the internet fatter. To illustrate what that would mean, BellSouth's chief architect, Henry Kafka, uses the assumption that the cost of providing a month's worth of data to the average user, about 2 gigabytes, costs the company $1. That's a fairly small amount compared to the $25 to $47 a month BellSouth charges for DSL, but then the company has to pay for sales, support, maintenance and a host of other costs.If that same user were to start downloading five TV-quality movies per month, BellSouth's data cost, not including the cost of maintaining the DSL line, would go up to $4.50 a month. Higher, but perhaps not high enough to break BellSouth's business model.But if the customer starts watching internet TV like the average household watches regular TV, 8 hours a day, BellSouth's cost would go up to $112 a month, according to Kafka."We don't expect to get to the point where we're charging anyone those kinds of prices for internet service, but it does reflect the kind of impact that high-quality video could have on the network and business models for providing the Internet," Kafka said.Which one sounds like BS?Which one is a winner?That last paragraph is a doozie, eh? $112/month COST! We don't expect to get to that point... Really?Oh, of course not, they plan on taking us off the Information Superhighway and forcing us onto their Information Toll Road; complete with roadblocks and detours that only the deepest of pockets can avoid. This will put you, me, our small businesses, and the public library into a bidding war with Barnes Noble, Amazon, Yahoo, and Google. That sounds like a fair fight, eh? Personalize this issue! Make it about them, the Communications Cartel, Muzzling us... Controlling our information with roadblocks, toll booths and detours. A clever design of virtual toll booths, roadblocks and detours so that the money from our wallets will find its way into their pockets. ronn May 14, 2006, at 11:47 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: "Small clips are fine, but TV-quality and especially high-definition programming could make the internet choke." http://www.wired.com/news/wireservice/0,70895-0.html?tw=rss.index -Matt SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] WIRED: Could High-Def Choke Internet?
Poor them! They make broadband promises: video all you want with DSL, then don't bother to follow through with their end of the bargain, now they want us to not only foot the bill, but to suffer reduced and limited access and usability? WTF?On May 15, 2006, at 12:13 AM, Devlon wrote: Anti 'save the internet' propaganda ;)On 5/14/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Small clips are fine, but TV-quality and especially high-definition programming could make the internet choke." http://www.wired.com/news/wireservice/0,70895-0.html?tw=rss.index -MattSPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service .-- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.comhttp://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Information Tollroad: Don't let them muzzle us!
Nobody would have known about L'Affaire Colbert without web based video. AlterNet: Stephen Colbert: New American Hero "The second reason Colbert made such a huge splash is the rapid advance of video on the web. Almost overnight, the media world has irrevocably changed as video is increasingly becoming as important as print and still images on the web. When, in a matter of hours, dozens of websites can post or link to a video and get the word out about a spectacular event, the role of the gatekeepers and the corporate media shrinks big-time. And it doesn't matter if the networks or CNN or Fox decides that they don't want you to see it -- they can't stop it. The people's network is now in working order. Progressives now have a television capacity; still rudimentary, perhaps, but powerfully effective." [emphasis mine] Don Hazen, Alternet SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess
Josh, you say fight the boob, I say embrace the boob. Boob marketing is a fact of life. If I were running a golf show, a hot young lady might be a necessity. I don't know how many of you golf, but I have been on several occasions, and one of the highlights of the day is 4 guys chatting up the beer cart girl. Now, I'm not sure if it's the beer or the girl, but if I were running a golf show, you can bet I would be looking for an attractive host. I would be racking my brain to figure out how to deliver streaming beer over a T1.Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On May 10, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Josh Leo wrote: Fight the boob marketing!On 5/10/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I've learned about working at an organization where most menare over 40... they love being in the company of a young woman. Mybet is that this video-podcast will cater to middle age men... so Ican understand their marketing strategy for looking for a young attractive woman.Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination eventually?Caseyhttp://www.galacticast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:11:54 +0200, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?is it sex appeal? why not someone with knowledge of golf? why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence? Boobs trumphs golf. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Beercasting (was:Looking for...hostess
Beercasting, my GOD, MAN! You're really onto something. And all I thought of was Streaming Beer. You are a true visionary! Perhaps we should define early: beelogging v beercasting ...thread to start... SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sick of the sexism
I am a white man, and I have been a minority, and you are right, it is different. I found this thread entertaining. I also find the outrage entertaining, but in a different way. This whole thing reminds me of Harrison Bergeron.Boob jokes are not sexist. Saying that a woman can't do a job because she is inferior is, and nobody did that. Saying that a woman is generally more pleasing to look at is also not sexist. Saying that men like to look at boobs is not sexist. Saying that boobs make a woman is, and nobody did that. This is like saying that black men make better basketball players, and the teams want to win so they hire black men to play. That is why there are more black men in basketball.I don't think anyone would disagree with that, would they?Video is visual, so pretty people tend to do the best in this media, that is quite simply human nature. Golfers, or men (male and female...Is it getting hot in here? Flame on!) tend to like looking at pretty girls. So this guy is... "looking to hire avideo podcast hostess. What would be the most effective way to spread the word about this opportunity? Or do you know anyone who might be interested?"That statement just oozes sexism.Someone took issue with the idea of a female lead, a couple of serious posts were made, then a boob joke. Oh the sexism. I can't wait to hear something akin to 'size doesn't matter' so I can get equally outraged. I might check out your video, but I think it would just be a waste of my time, as I think you are taking things way too seriously and reading into things far too deeply. I apologize if my 'embrace the boob' comment was sexist. I was quite serious. I have no problem with idiots talking about something they don't know about. It happens on TV every single day. It happens in the vlogosphere too. Now you can read into that and make the assumption that I mean 'she' don't know golf, which would be just as incorrect as 'she' has to be a hottie, which is what got us started on this. Personally I don't really care if you were offended. People are offended every day by stuff that is just as silly, in fact, I found your reply on this list far more offensive than any other post. What does that make you? Am I sexist because I was offended by your _expression_ of outrage? Or am I something else? Keep in mind that I am not saying that Sexism is silly, just your interpretation of this thread.Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On May 10, 2006, at 7:25 PM, David Howell wrote: Allow me to be the first non "white guy" to reply to your video. For the record, I'm Native American. Dont even try to talk to me about racsim. You wont get very far. I'm pretty sure you dont have any first hand experience with it affecting you. You go and talk about racism yet lump white guys responding into a group as if they are bad people if they reply to you? As well you think this group is the "vlogosphere"?? Wow..just...wow. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brittany Shoot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty angry, but please take this in the spirit in which it is intended.I made a video about how the sexist comments on this listserv made me feel. It's not all in fun, and having just joined the list after resisting for months, I know why I was warned not to bother with this "conversation" at all. I'll keep my subscription, but I'll probably go back to deleting all of the messages. Thanks to one like-minded female who emailed me to alert me to today's dose of bullshit.Go watch this: http://modernfeminist.blogspot.com/2006/05/sexism-in-vlogosphere.htmlAnd thank you to all of the men and women who tried to put a stop to all of this. It mostly amazes me what will be said when you know countless people will read these emails...but I guess if you're so unaware that you're being sexist, you may not care.See you at VloggerCon, where I'll be discussing inclusion in the vlogosphere...or lack thereof.Brittany http://bshoot.blogspot.com http://modernfeminist.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
Writing this before I read them all and before I forget, so I apologize in advance if it has already been said. I have been a Yahoo list member (that moniker ought to date me well) for about 10 years now, and it has always struck me how inadequate the lists are at developing a community. Lists are great for announcements, but horrible for conversations. There is no permanence to these lists; every conversation is a flash in the pan. How many times does the same, or similar question get asked? Can you research a topic on this list? What if you come in late, as I did? Surf through thousands of posts most of which are of no interest to me? This was the problem with the discdog lists on Yahoo. the list functioned perfectly for announcements but was sorely lacking in terms of building a community. The lack of permanence, I believe, is the big shortcoming of these lists in developing a community. First off there is the difficulty of finding information that is of interest to you; drilling down into the thousands of messages with different subjects is near impossible. Then there is the fact that people can say anything they want and it is gone, never to be seen again. This allows people to really act shitty towards eachother. 2 years ago i created http://k9disc.com (orignially a phpBB) as an alternative to the lists. It was slow going at first, as none of the discdogging heavy hitters hopped on the band wagon, and a bunch still are not members, but it really picked up steam, and we now have 227 or so members and nearly 8000 posts. It has been an invaluable resource for new discdog players across the world. Things are divided up into topics, and while there are a lot of posts, at least you have a topic that you can start your drilling in. I am all for a bridging the gap with a good forum set up instead of this list. I am sure I would participate more. I would also be able to learn so much more. Anybody know how to run scoop? Great program for communities, and it totally could handle 1000 members. Later, Ron SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
There is a piece of software for phpBB that allows a user to insert the posts from a Yahoo group, like this, into your phpBB DB. I was going to use it for k9discussion, but I was afraid that I would have problems with the list owners. The discdog world is quite...interesting... let's say. We are a dysfunctional, but largely happy community. We had 5 guys going through 10,000 or so messages before I pulled the plug. That is a way that you could grab all of the info from this list and populate a forum with good information from here.Just thought I would share that. I can find out what the app is called that does that, if you want. Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On May 9, 2006, at 9:16 PM, David Meade wrote: On 5/9/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make no mistake about it -- there is great information thatpasses through here, from new ideas and new trends, technicalinnovation, and best practices for media makers and videobloggersexploring new possibilities. But, again thats not the issue. And I'm not making any such mistake, myself ... as I said earlier: "This is clearly a great group, and has great information for those just starting. No body is saying otherwise. The simple question was essentially 'is there a better way for this group to present that information to make it more accessible "for those people who cant follow the topic well enough yet to be like you and join a dozen different groups to find the information." If the answer is No, its no. If the answer is Yes its yes. But saying "this list has great ideas in it already" doesnt address the issue. The question wasnt "how can we get better information out there" it was "how can we get information out there better". Anyway ... this topic is so all over the map now, I doubt this thread can really discuss it fairly ... no matter we'll do the same run around again in six months. :-P - Dave-- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Us vs. the UN
, and help in bringing these products to market. Corporate Media CartelThe Corporate Media Cartel has enabled all of this to happen. They give cover to their customers, corporate advertisers, as part of their business. Each of these cartels is made up of a handful of corporations that compete amicably with eachother by day for sales and marketshare, and collude with eachother by night for the health of the industry in general. Each of these Cartels have industry groups and joint lobbying efforts crawling all over Washington, trying to get allowances that are beneficial to their industry. And each of these Cartels operates without any regard for their impacts upon people.There are several more Corporate Cartels, but I am getting tired of writing about them; it makes me so angry. It is Garbage in Garbage out. The information that everyone here uses has been doled out by a corporate Media Cartel, a group of giant corporations that have common needs and all serve one purpose: to make money.Who are these corporations, exactly?http://www.rbrepaper.com/epaper/images/consolidation.jpghttp://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml AOL Time, Vivendi, Clearchannel, News Corp, Viacom, Clearchannel, and Disney The customers of the Corporate media Cartel are other corporations. People are the product being sold. People don't matter anymore, Dierdre. All that matters is profit.On May 7, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: On 5/7/06, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is pushing the Information Toll Road Bill, Dierdre? ? Not me. Was it intellectual laziness and ignorance that led you to ignore the problem until now?Who said I was ignoring it? I spend several hours a day reading news and blogs (part of my job), so I'm well aware of it. And I do think it's important, and have written to my reps in the US congress already. I just don't think that the Internet (or blogs, or vlogs) is the universal panacea spreading peace, love, and wisdom throughout the world. And trying to position it that way is likely to undermine your own arguments. If you sound hysterical and overblown in one or several areas, it is easier for people to dismiss the rest of your points. It is not some kind of CEO cabal that is doing these things. It is unaccountable entities that have more rights than you and I that ONLY serve profit. They get together to form cartels to make offers that civil society can't refuse. Please provide an example of a modern-day corporate cartel. I am prepared to believe that there are a few, but I simply don't believe that most companies can find their asses with both hands, let alone get together with other companies to evolve and maintain a strategy to take over the world. It is Garbage in Garbage out. The information that everyone here uses has been doled out by a corporate Media Cartel, a group of giant corporations that have common needs and all serve one purpose: to make money. Who are these corporations, exactly? -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?
Umm... Yes... Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On May 2, 2006, at 1:36 PM, David Meade wrote: I just posted it to blip :-Phttp://blip.tv/file/29384(this is that video tag I created, I released it as public domain)First time I realized there is no politics category on blip uploads. Should there be? On 5/2/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If hundreds of people literally post a video about this or just a simple video text message and upload them to all these free services excellent viral effect! Absolutely. With all the spotlights on online video these days, there are a lot of people watching. Even if it's a simple text message like Sull says, we've got to send something. That's one of the powerful things about videoblogging, right? We all have a voice, scream!(ok, I'm off the soapbox now) On 5/2/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/2/06, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right Sull, I have been reading a lot about this and some other issues as well, and it seems very clearly that Congress does not have a clue about this and what it could really mean..we have to be vocal about it and we have to do something about it...but will it be enough..I plan on vlogging about it tonight.Same here. I think we might even post it on all the active sites, like (shudder) youtube, etcget wicked exposure. People need to know what road this puts us on if it goes through. The Internet is responsible for connecting so many people, so many communities and something like this tosses that all straight down the toilet. Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it next week? Holy crap! Thats what I get for pretending this isnt really happening.Look, this entire space, the vlogosphere, has failed to make noise on this issue. Do you know how many people are linger and lurk here outside of those who are active here? Thousands! The media!If all we have is a week, We need some noise on this. I propose every one who has a site.. a blog or a service get a message out. an image, a video... anything. make it Loud and Obvious. Spread it. Blog about this.And do as Dave has suggested. and use these: 320x240 3vix Mov: (107KB) http://davidmeade.com/resources/savetheinternet.mov Larger AVI: (17MB) http://davidmeade.com/resources/savetheinternet.avi sull On 5/2/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah this is a pretty big deal. Some talk of it has taken place here on the list. (for a recap check out the summary at loadedpun.com http://loadedpun.com/2006/04/29/dont-let-congress-ruin-the- internet-take-action.html) Imagine an internet where FireFox never took off because MS could pay for better placement/bandwidth ... or arrange for firefox downloads to get snubbed into the 1980s bandwidth lane. Imagine an internet where Yahoo! inks a deal to make itunes such a pain in the ass for comcast users they would naturally move to another online music store ... like yahoo!'s ... which would run remarkably well. Imagine an internet where deep pocketed lobbyist can ensure that grass roots movements / citizen journalism cannot have the equal playing field on the net that they do now ... this is taking the printing press away from The People and giving it to giant corporations. We need to convince congress that The People who elected them can influence their political career just as surely as the telecom money / schmoozing they've received. I encourage everyone to take action: http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet It goes to a vote on the house floor soon (next week I think), with an attempt to attach the net neutrality amendment. After that the Senate becomes the front line ... and then perhaps back to the house. It just makes me mad that elected officials can convince themselves that this 'control' of the internet could in anyway serve their constituents. Freedom of speech isn't free if it gets more equal the more you pay … Anyway, the website above ( http://action.freepress.net/campaign/savethenet ) will let you fill out a short form and will email your representatives for you … it's painless. - Dave On 5/2/06, Monique Danielle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got this in my email. Thought I would pass it on: Congress is now pushing a law that would end the free and open Internetaswe know it. Internet providers like ATT and Verizon are lobbyingCongresshard to gut Network Neutrality, the Internet's First Amendment and thekeyto Internet freedom. Net Neutrality prevents ATT from choosing whichwebsites open most easily
Re: [videoblogging] Us vs. the UN
That would actually mean actually standing up to the Corporate Communications Cartels. Remember that Al was Jr. Partner of the administration that gave away American's right to be well informed. But come on, don't blame this on the UN. This is the World Intellectual Property Organization. This is like hating all of government because of the IRS. Oh wait, that's already been done before hasn't it?Please don't put your ire at the governing bodies. They are just doing what they are told by the Corporate Cartels that make policy, not just in WIPO, but in all of world affairs. We need to strengthen and open up these governing bodies. We, the people of the world, need protections: protection from the corporate creep that has invaded our lives and continues to get more and more oppressive. The only institutions that can grant these protections are governmental in nature. The Corporatists have a wonderful system here: they whip people into a frenzy against the obstacle that is in their way, namely government also known as the will of the people, and they get the people to surrender their power to protect themselves by tearing apart the institutions that can protect them.As far as Al Gore and inventing the internet...Funny thing, the media and the messaging of the Right. They can get people to believe anything. How about that freeloading McDonald's coffee lady? Jeez, was she way off base!ronOn May 3, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: LOL!Desperate Desperate Sad Pathetic World, aint it? This year is going to be mad funny! Hey, maybe Bush can turn those approval ratings over and kill this. Right!Where the hell is Al Gore? Inventor of the Internet... Might as well be the Savior too, no? Oh that's right, he owns a network now and is cozy with the suits. Whatever.sullOn 5/3/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Forget "Save the Internet", have you seen what filth the UN is hoping to pass?http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/02/un_cooking_podcastki.htmlIf this passes, the UN has lost my complete respect... and we will all become outlaws.CaseyYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] How to Talk about Saving the Internet
Hey everyone. I might be pretty active on this thread. Some of you might remember me going off on list and video conference about this issue and how it relates to creeping corporate power. Let's just say this issue is important to me. I would like to talk to you all about our messaging as we try to Save the Internet: Messaging is important. It is more important than reality, which we have seen from our governments for the last 20 years. The current message, focusing on 'Net Neutrality' is a sure loser. Yes, it is real. It is literal, it is correct. But it is not going to work. We are going up against the 'wonders of the private sector'. Free markets. De-regulation- concepts that are so ingrained into the Average American's brain that they are nearly unchallengeable. We are doing so with a message that needs 10 paragraphs to explain. They say 'private sector needs to be free to create', probably something like,"At this time, it is very important that the private sector be free to innovate and create as only the private sector can."Then we follow with 10 paragraphs of what Net Neutrality is. We are going to get killed!Save the internet is a great phrase: The internet needs saving.Why? Because giant companies are trying to steal it. From a conversation on dailykos"Ok, so I won't be able to write what I want in my email?"No you can write what you want, but you better make it short. Too many words and they'll charge you more. And of course will have to pay for any emails to people far away, or outside your network. And of course you will have to wait forever for it to download. No more sharing pics."Um. But don't you have to pay for faster connections now anyway? When I moved to cable it cost me more than dial-up did. And my company pays even more for our fast office connection."Can you afford hi-speed internet today? Better enjoy it while it lasts because if this goes through you will be stuck on perpetual dialup. You and me can keep up with the Jones' in terms of internet pricing, but we can't keep up with the Dow Jones'.Let's look at the text from save the internet, and just inject a little personal stuff and see what happens:From Save the Internet.com:Congress is pushing a law that would abandon the Internet's First Amendment -- a principle called Network Neutrality that prevents companies like ATT, Verizon and Comcast from deciding which Web sites work best for you -- based on what site pays them the most. Your local library shouldn’t have to outbid Barnes Noble for the right to have its Web site open quickly on your computer.Net Neutrality allows everyone to compete on a level playing field and is the reason that the Internet is a force for economic innovation, civic participation and free speech. If the public doesn't speak up now, Congress will cave to a multi-million dollar lobbying campaign by telephone and cable companies that want to decide what you do, where you go, and what you watch online.This isn’t just speculation -- we've already seen what happens elsewhere when the Internet's gatekeepers get too much control. Last year, Telus -- Canada's version of ATT -- blocked their Internet customers from visiting a Web site sympathetic to workers with whom the company was having a labor dispute. And Madison River, a North Carolina ISP, blocked its customers from using any competing Internet phone service.A Little rework:Congress is pushing a law that would abandon the principle of Network Neutrality, the Internet's First Amendment. This means that giant companies like ATT, Verizon and Comcast get to decide what sites you may see, and how quickly you can get there based on who pays them the most. Your local library shouldn’t have to outbid Barnes Noble for the right to have its Web site open quickly on your computer.The internet has always been a level playing field. This is the reason that the Internet has brought about economic innovation, increased civic participation and given us all the ability, not only to speak, but to be heard. If the public doesn't speak up now, Congress will cave to the demands of the corporate Communications Cartel and their multi-million dollar lobbying campaign by telephone and cable companies that want to decide what you do, where you go, and what you watch online. This will mean that the Information Superhighway that was promised but abandoned the last time the Communications Cartel muscled their way into politics, will turn into the Internet Toll Road where speed and access are available only to the highest bidders. This isn’t just speculation -- we've already seen what happens elsewhere when the Internet's gatekeepers get too much control. Last year, Telus -- Canada's version of ATT -- blocked their Internet customers from visiting a Web site sympathetic to workers with whom the company was having a labor dispute. And Madison River, a North Carolina ISP, blocked its customers from using any competing Internet phone service.Granted this is not a good rewrite, as it
[videoblogging]On The Information Toll Road and Information Markets
The Information Toll Road and Information Markets As the reality of an Information Toll Road draws near, people from all points of cyberspace are rallying around Net Neutrality, and airing their grievances in terms of that concept. This is a strategic mistake that is going to allow the corporate Communications Cartel to push through their agenda and lock down the internet. The internet is built around open standards and reliable and cheap access. I run a few websites for communities that I am involved with and for my small business. I depend on these open standards to allow me to share information with my communities and my perspective customers. I built my web presence on Open Source software, so I am greatly indebted to the Open Source movement for both creating and protecting my ability to do the things that I do online. The same could be said of the Communications Cartel. They have co-opted many ideas and concepts from the Open Source movement, and have made them widespread realities for most of the planet. But let's be clear on one thing: the wonders of the private sector and markets did not create these things, it was a level playing field, open standards and access that made these things happen. Firefox went global, even in the absence of a level playing field, because of open standards and access. Thousands of useful products, plug-ins, and extensions have made huge impacts on Information Technology, and since been integrated into the Internet as we know it. Most of these came from people and companies that would be left out in the cold if we allow corporate cartels to create the Information Toll Road. The Information Toll Road is a dead end. Information Markets and the InternetIn the United States, before the Internet, a citizen had the right to free speech, but did not have the right to be heard. With the advent of the internet, that changed; all of a sudden everyone had not only the ability to speak freely, but they had the ability to be heard. When the Telecom Bill was pushed through by the corporate Communications Cartel in 1996, there was all kinds of talk of equality and redistributing information power: "Every man a publisher and content creator". Never mind the fact that the Telecom Bill consolidated the power of the corporate Communications Cartel, the people were going to get something out of it. Most never guessed it would be the shaft. Decreased competition and relaxed regulation allowed access costs to skyrocket as options for the consumer were limited. When several controlling entities act as a cartel, limiting access and usability to drive up profit, an unhealthy market is created. When we talk about something as important as the freeflow of information, we are talking about something as important to society as air and water are to people. Fortunately society nor people matter in markets, all that matters is profit. By this standard, the Information Toll Road Bill is an extremely important, and wonderful piece of legislation. At this point in time, so much information is shared instead of sold for profit. We are using their markets to share information; the nerve! Not only are we using their markets to share information, costing them profits, but we are sharing information that threatens the very concept of profit today, future profits for tomorrow, and to shed a light on nefarious past profits. Rest assured that if the Information Toll Road Bill passes, we will pay to share important information. Information harmful to powerful interests will be scrubbed from the internet through restricted access and bandwidth and oppressive costs. The corporate Communications Cartel wants to lock you into their captive market, and they want you to pay. We should not allow ourselves and the internet to be taken hostage by the corporate Communication Cartel.Ron WatsonComments and critique welcome.Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On May 6, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Ron Watson wrote: Hey everyone. I might be pretty active on this thread. Some of you might remember me going off on list and video conference about this issue and how it relates to creeping corporate power. Let's just say this issue is important to me. I would like to talk to you all about our messaging as we try to Save the Internet: Messaging is important. It is more important than reality, which we have seen from our governments for the last 20 years. The current message, focusing on 'Net Neutrality' is a sure loser. Yes, it is real. It is literal, it is correct. But it is not going to work. We are going up against the 'wonders of the private sector'. Free markets. De-regulation- concepts that are so ingrained into the Average American's brain that they are nearly unchallengeable. We are doing so with a message that needs 10 paragraphs to explain. They say 'private sector needs to be free to create'
Re: [videoblogging] Us vs. the UN
Who is pushing the Information Toll Road Bill, Dierdre?Was it intellectual laziness and ignorance that led you to ignore the problem until now?I remember this conversation coming up before, I was quite passionate about it, and everyone seemed to say,"It can't happen." "It's a non-starter."Everything intellectual property, globally, is run by corporate. Lots of litigation dollars, lots of bribes, a a little more than a bit of extortion. It's just the way we do business. And that's the problem.I am not trying to attack you, but to make you think a bit about the questions you asked.You have the answers. It is not some kind of CEO cabal that is doing these things. It is unaccountable entities that have more rights than you and I that ONLY serve profit. They get together to form cartels to make offers that civil society can't refuse. Furthermore, on ignorance and laziness:It is Garbage in Garbage out. The information that everyone here uses has been doled out by a corporate Media Cartel, a group of giant corporations that have common needs and all serve one purpose: to make money. We are the product being sold, not the customer. So what kind of information do we get? Whatever is good for profit. Where does the profit come from? Corporate advertisers. People are intellectually lazy, and they are ignorant, but who isn't when most information is bullshit on its face, ie: growing and healthy economy, global waming as liberal hoax, Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as oil savior. People don't know what to believe. On May 6, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: I don't necessarily disagree with some of what you're arguing but... who are these Corporatists? Many of us work for corporations, large or small, one way or another. Does that make us all automatically evil? There is a lot wrong in the US (and every other country I know anything about), but I suspect that (in the case of US) the problems have more to do with the ignorance and intellectual laziness of the masses than the evil workings of a cabal of CEOs trying to run the world for their own convenience. After all, if Microsoft were smart enough to be running the world, you'd think they could apply those smarts, say, to getting a new operating system out.-- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Vlogging exposure...
Thanks for the reply, Andreas, Stephanie...Spamming vs ExposureI am happy that you two chimed in on RSS as exposure and the issue of spamming the list. Good points. I was unaware that there was any historical thing to Vloggers Unite, as I delete a whoe bunch of stuff from this list; no offense, all, but it is just too much. I look for things that are of interest to me and read about them, and check out things that sound as if they may beinteresting, or informative. So I just deleted his 'spam' emails because they were not of interest to me. Such is life in a 2000+ person group.But that doesn't change the fact that most of us noobs (I was a noob once, but I have been retired for a month or so, so I now am a veteran. Besides, I have seen a bunch of you guys on video for several months now and read your posts, and I feel as if I know you all.) are under the impression that asking people to watch your vids is bad. The prostrations of people on this list when they so much as mention their own Vlog or a piece they did that they are proud of (...thanks Steph...) is really off putting and it teaches the new batch of noobs, the newest 3000 vlogggers on mefeedia, that you should not talk about your vlog on this list, or it should be a special occasion kind of thing. I know that most of us are on the same page when it comes to this issue, and we think it is alright to share our work with this group, which is great, but that is not the perception from the population of the list as a whole. As illustrated by the fear that writing about a piece of ours must give people to make them look at their shoelaces when they try to get exposure for their work by asking the videoblogging list to check it out. So, from now on I am going to bring out all stops when it comes to my pushing you all to my Vlog. Bells as whistles, ALL CAPS!!, SPLASH PAGE! Flash! WOO HOO! When I want you all to see something, I am going to SCREAM IT! Marketing will be my middle name. Amway ain't got shit on me!And for all of you who don't like it, to paraphrase Jason, "Screw you!" Hit delete and don't watch it.What would happen if we all did that? I think it would be pretty cool. It sure would be more fun, and I think we would learn more. the MetaI train dogs, so I am always looking for ways to put the rotten behaviors on cue so we can then keep them in check. This is a good example of that kind of flexibility in group communications. So funny... what we learn from our dogs.Cheers, Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: VLOGGERS UNITE
Interesting thread. Something that drives me crazy about this group is that there is some serious confusion about what is and is not spam.When someone posts about a vlog they are proud of, some people tend to think that it is spam. I actually apologized for spamming the group when I posted a piece that I was proud of (thanks for the feedback for all of you that viewed and reviewed it). I think that is a problem. I found nothing seriously distatasteful about the VLOGGERS UNITE thread from Jason, the original poster, and in his mea culpa, he brought up some issues that are important to me. Namely the fact that RSS is some kind of tool to get exposure. It is not a tool for exposure. It is simple distribution; it is shipping, more or less. I notice that most of the people who responded with angst in this thread have pretty good name recognition within this community. I am not attacking anyone, but I think that those of you who are established Vloggers don't really see the problems for getting exposure for a new Vlog. You all created this, and have deep (or not so deep) relationships with the other members of the community. People go to your Vlogs to learn. Your vlogs show up at the top of mefeedia, and have huge interconnected distribution channels because of that. There are now almost 7000 feeds at mefeedia. When I started Vlogging in December '05 there were 3000. How many were there when you started Vlogging?Exposure for vlogs is a problem, and it gets bigger everyday. Those problems are compounded when, in a group about video blogging, asking for people to check out your vlog is spam. As far as the VLOGGERS UNITE thread, I don't have a problem with it, and don't see it as spam, any more than I see this entire list as spam. I like this group, and have learned tons from it, but there is very little of what I got that I actually ask for. I appreciate the 'spam' on this list. It is some of the finest spam on the internet. I am not going to join that group, but I don't mind deleting one more of my 230 videoblogging messages in my inbox. I don't know what to do about the exposure problem, so this is kind of a meta piece, with probably little to no value, but I felt as if I should chime in and speak my mind. Oh yea, we just signed the paperwork for our new dog training studio, boutique and art gallery. snarkI will be posting video soon, and if it is good enough I will 'spam' the group with the info, mainly in the hopes that local vlogging hero Josh Leo will watch it and come out and vlog about it. Then maybe all of you will get a chance to see our new place. /snark Got to run. Time for a new coat of paint and to hang some sweet signage.Later, Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On Mar 31, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Michael Meiser wrote: I just find one thing funny. That posting your posts to a yahoo group is the fastest way to get your pages listed. Quite frankly the fastest way to get your pages listed is through your RSS feed. Specifically if you use feedburner as that no only indexes your feed and pings all the relevant websites, but also includes mediaRSS info which is sent straight to yahoo. Furthermore building an audience of subscribers through actually offering value not spam is the best possible way to build a long term repeat audience... focus on promoting subscriptions not just individual posts. Visitors to your site come and go, subscribers stick around. When I heard about this proposed yahoo group I simply heard the term spam group. By all means though if you want to spam yourself and others who would spam you go right a head. A giant echo chamber... people yelling at each other... check out my feed, no check out my feed. Everyone shouting noone listening. I think it'd be funny. Just don't do it here. And btw, for future reference, people don't like being "experimented with" that definitely does not make it OK. In fact it may offend people worse than just being clueless, because it's condescending too. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Bryant" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you know anything about Internet marketing. If you did, you would know the difference between a discussion group and an audience for spam. I think thats a very important point that helps explain this groups stance on what are not acceptable ways to do business here. Of course there is no single groupview on this or any other issue, but certaint kinds of marketing are definately one of the things that gets some vocal peoples backs up here. I personally dislike marketing in general, but I have a passionate hate for really vulgar marketing sales techniques, adverts etc. Now it seems to be that these days there are a lot of companies that are doing the modern
Re: [videoblogging] Sun to Vanish: Total Eclipse Visible in Select Spots
Check out: http://garyinegypt.com/Gary is a buddy of mine from college in Hawaii.He sent me an email the day before he left on this trip. Enjoy. RonOn Mar 27, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Devlon wrote: Any videobloggers in Brazil, Africa, and western Asia? A total eclipse of the Sun that will take place on Wednesday, March 29? http://www.space.com/spacewatch/060324_night_sky.html ...that'd be cool to see a mashup of a few different points of view of the event. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com http://mefeedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] vPIP 0.12 Beta is out
Will feeds that are aggregated in my wordpress and blogger vlogs (mainly from blip, but soon to be others) (http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog) be affected by this plugin? That would be really nice if they were automagically changed to vPIP.ron Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On Mar 29, 2006, at 8:43 AM, Jan wrote: Whoa, Enric, this rocks my world! From the very moment I started vlogging, this is what I've envisioned for the page. Bravo and thanks. You got a promo you want played? I'll take it and use it on the next month's output, yo. Hot-diggity-dog. XOXOX, Jan -- "It isn't done alone. Pay more." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - Road Node 101 http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://dagnyhemingway.blogspot.com - machinima http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - community http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . - Original Message - From: "Enric" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: [videoblogging] vPIP 0.12 Beta is outvPIP (videos Playing In Place) allows the embedding of videos only when a link, usually image representing the video, is clicked. This allows a vlog page to load quickly. Then when the link is clicked, the video replaces the link and appears next to the blog text. vPIP supports Quicktime, Windows Media and Flash movies. Those who've been on this list, I'm sure have heard me mentioned vPIP several times. The current version has been tested on Firefox, Internet Explorer 6, Opera and Safari. It works well on all these except on Safari the revert feature does not work well, so it's been disabled. The revert option makes a prior video that was active revert back to it's link information when the next video is selected. The blogging systems that vPIP has been tested on are Blogger.com and Wordpress. It should also work on any other blogging system like Typepad and website by referencing it's _javascript_ file. The installation and usage information is at: http://www.utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/ In the usage section is an image link to the Generate vPIP flash utility that lets you specify the video file, image file and other parameters. Then it generates the code to copy and paste into your blog or web site. Currently I know that Geek Entertainment TV, http://www.geekentertainment.tv/, Lo-Fi St. Louis, http://lofistl.com/, Tech Alley, http://techalley.cirne.com/ and Cirne, http://www.cirne.com/vlog/, are using vPIP. Have a look at those sites to see it in operation. As of this writing, Geek Entertainment TV and Lo-Fi St. Louis are using the prior version of vPIP that require the page to completely load for it to go into effect. My sites, Tech Alley and Cirne, are using the new version that operates immediately. Let me know if there's any questions, recommendations for improvements or problems. Thanks, Enric -===- http://www.cirne.com Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Flash
This is great, Mike, but my .flv video on blip is only taking up 1/3 of the 'screen'. It is playing in the top left corner with 2/3 of the 'screen' blank.Is this normal?ronOn Mar 14, 2006, at 10:00 AM, mikehudack wrote: Hey guys, We're now using Flash as a default playback mechanism on blip.tv itself. This is so that our users -- your users -- who don't have the latest Quicktime or Windows Media installed can still watch the video. We are NOT sending the Flash format through as a preferred format in the RSS, and we are NOT automatically switching cross-posting to the new Flash format. Some people will like it, and some won't. So... In RSS, we're keeping the main enclosure as whatever video in whatever format you uploaded, and we're using MediaRSS to name "additional formats" that can be used, including the Flash. It'll be up to the user to display the format that works best for them. Most will use Quicktime. In terms of cross-posting, starting today or tomorrow you'll be able to choose a Flash cross-post template that will display Flash video in your blog. You don't have to use it if you don't want to, but we've tested this template carefully to make sure it works with Feedburner (it does). This means that even if you use this Flash template and play Flash video on your blog, Feedburner will still pick up the Quicktime version for inclusion in your RSS feed. These changes are all about giving people MORE choices, not less. If you don't want to use the Flash video, you don't have to. With one exception... right now we don't give people a choice as to whether to have Flash as the default playback format on blip.tv itself. Our experience has been that Flash is going to reach a wider audience than Quicktime, but if you'd like we could probably roll this feature into a future release. Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think i see what you may be referring to now. i see that blip is using some sort of flash player on their site - i had not noticedif i have the right feed, it seems to be made up of .mov's onlyhttp://k9disc.blip.tv/?1=1skin=rssso if i understand correctly you are asking how do you control what kind of player blip uses *on your blip.tv blog*this does not seem to effect (in my case) my blogger or typepad blogs - they just reference the mov filesit also does not seem to effect the rss feed either (in my case or in yours it seems)so i think it's just a question about how it appears on the blip sitebut still a good question. i dunno the answer. probably should ask this in the blip.tv grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/blip-usersMarkus Sandy wrote:i don't think this has to do with blip unless you're using some feature I'm not aware ofwhat are your site and feed urls?are you posting links to both a flash and quicktime versions of your video? perhaps you just need to reverse their orderwhat aggregator are you using to view the feed? fireant? Ron Watson wrote: How do I set preferences on blip.I would like to remove the flash video from my feed (or is it just simply on my blog?), or at the very least move the default from flash to .mov.The Flash files are about 1/3 the size of the .mov vids and the 'screen' that the video plays in. It looks tacky, and I would like to not see my work presented like that; professionalism and all. (haha!)So what's up with this new flash stuff, and how do i set the default movie type?Thanks, RonYahoo! Groups Links. -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.ushttp://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.comaim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Blip and Flash
How do I set preferences on blip. I would like to remove the flash video from my feed (or is it just simply on my blog?), or at the very least move the default from flash to .mov. The Flash files are about 1/3 the size of the .mov vids and the 'screen' that the video plays in. It looks tacky, and I would like to not see my work presented like that; professionalism and all. (haha!) So what's up with this new flash stuff, and how do i set the default movie type? Thanks, Ron Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Embed Feed into tiki wiki?
Hey all, I just thought I would shoot this question to this community before I go on my midnight google expedition.Does anyone know how to get a feed to embed into tiki-wiki?I can bring it in to a module, but I get none of the info, just a simple link. I would like to bring my whole feed into the wiki automagically.ronOn Feb 24, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: This is interestinghttp://www.alwaysbeta.com/2006/02/21/delicious-popular-not-so-popular/ On 2/22/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and also, we need something that isnt only understood by geeks or savvy social networking type users. this leaves out most options that other people just wont pick up on. and these 'other' people well, their are like millions of them ;-) I don't think there's anything wrong with focusing on savvy socialnetworking type users. They are the trendsetters and tastemakers.Letting them be the active ones and providing ways for them to sharethe fruits of their labor provides benefit to all other users (yes, the millions of them). The recognition ahould be a rewardingexperience for those savvy users, thus encouraging a virtuous cycle ofparticipation.my 2 cents.-JoshOn 2/22/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:to get back on topic (can the copyright chat start a new thread maybe?) perhaps matching people with similar interests Well, the "other people who like this also like..." is somewhat useful but not as useful in the world of video content. and also, we need something that isnt only understood by geeks or savvy social networking type users. this leaves out most options that other people just wont pick up on. and these 'other' people well, their are like millions of them ;-) sull On 2/21/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps matching people with similar interests ala del.icio.us. The proxy are the tags. In the vlogging case it would be does this vlogger like similar/dis-similar things? On 2/21/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 2/21/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most have agreed, we need to have systems in place to bubble up video. My 2c: bubbling popular stuff up is stupid. It's about what YOU want to see, and MOST of the time, that's *not* popular stuff. If it was, you would be satisfied gazing at the various youtube/yahoo/aol/mtv.. video pages. Hey, if it was, you'd watch tv for god sake! Forget about bubbling up popular stuff. We haven't nailed finding video you want to watch, but it's worth trying. It's about what communities recommend to each other. It's about your friends. It's about your interests. At least shoot for something better than "bubbling stuff up". Bubbling stuff up is dead. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Ted Tagami Principal, Universus Networks U N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS IndividualFireantUse YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- - - - - Sull http://vlogdir.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- - - - - Sullhttp://vlogdir.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual
[videoblogging] Dreamhost Quicktime Streaming Server Question
I was wondering if anyone has any experience streaming video from Dreamhost?I might be looking to set up a storage shed for video, and was reading their feature list and saw QT Streaming Server.We thought it would be real cool to stream a large discdog event. I think that would be so cool.Later, RonOn Feb 25, 2006, at 7:16 AM, Jay dedman wrote: This is intriguing. I had this vision of walking through a garage sale somewhere and finding a box of old postcards, each with a little note scribbled on it. I like the wavy-ness of the video. As if time is being bent somehow... Somewhere/time in the future there will be a dusty place in the internet, somewhere behind an old Craig's List, there will be that box of old postcards...short videos of the past...each with a little note scribbled on it. poetry asideIm following you. The internet is barely 10 years old for most people. in 70 years the web will actually have entire lifetimes on it. and this means video too. our grandkids will able to surf and run across peepholes into relationships, stoires, and full moments with people who no longer exist. Its up to us to make that happen... And for them to figure out what it means. Jay-- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] sharing iMovie control between 2 macs
Does anyone know of a way to control iMovie on one of my mactops from the other one?I would like to share control of iMovie between computers via my wireless network. That would be really cool.Later, RonOn Feb 14, 2006, at 1:15 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote: Hey all Just came across a new service called stickam. http://www.stickam.com/stickam.jsp In adition to hosting, they have a live streaming (flash) scheme where you throw an object in your sidebar and broadcast live. Is there any value for a vlogger to use their service? -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog: http://r.24x7.com good deal : http://foo.24x7.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Just a Blip in the dark? - Affirmative...
I get a weird QT faded screen with question mark. I take it this is a timeout?Anybody know what's going on?I am physically located in Michigan, and my ISP is charter. ronOn Feb 11, 2006, at 2:41 AM, Ron Watson wrote: yes...On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:09 AM, David Howell wrote: Is anyone else getting timeouts on their videos on Blip? David http://www.taoofdavid.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Introverts and Extroverts
I am a stereotypic ENFP. Highly intuitive, fairly centered on the other categories.Great question. I have always been interested in the Meyers-briggs test since my early college years. Bernie Ostrowski at Hawaii Pacific University taught the section on the MB, and he just ROCKED! What a great guy! Please follow up on this. I would be very interested in the results.Later, RonOn Feb 10, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Paul Knight wrote: I am the definitive Gemini, I like the peace and tranquility of being by myself with no distractions then I also love being the centre of attention. I'm just nuts.On 10 Feb 2006, at 16:09, Stephanie Bryant wrote: I'm curious: How many of you are introverts, and how many are extroverts? Some detail: An introvert is someone who is re-energized by being alone, but when they spend a lot of time around people, they feel drained and maybe anxious afterwards. An extrovert is the opposite: energized in the presence of others, but drained after a weekend in isolation. Most people are somewhere in the middle. Note that this has nothing to do with shyness or stage fright/stage presence. I would like the lurkers to respond, too, if you all don't mind (since otherwise the results will naturally be skewed towards the extroverts, introverts being more likely to lurk on forums). Where do you put yourself in the "introvert/extrovert" spectrum? [If you've taken the Meiers-Brigg personality test, you pretty much know already]. And if you're willing to mention it, where is your videoblog? I'm interested to know if there's a higher percentage of one personality trait or the other, and I'm keenly interested in knowing if introverts and extroverts make different styles of videoblogs. Also, if you're the kind of person who adamantly hates labels like this, I guess I don't mind you not answering. --Stephanie PS: I'll answer, but I don't want to skew the first results. -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Introverts and Extroverts
Bernie O, at HPU explained introvert and extroverts like this:Introverts are very comfortable working inside their own bubble. It takes very little energy to work in your own bubble, but as people start to come into your bubble, it gets harder and more energy must be spent to do work as people get involved in your bubble. An extrovert is very comfortable working outside of their bubbles, we are comfortable working in other people's bubbles. If we are able to work outside of our solo bubble, work is easy, very little energy being expended, but when we have to work alone, all inside our bubble, it is harder and requires more energy. It is very important to note that these tendencies are not exclusive. An introvert can function as an extrovert, and vice versa, but it is harder to do and requires more energy. That's what I remember about introvert and extrovert. I also vividly remember the Intuitive v Sensing breakdown. Intuitive people are big picture people; generalists. They like to be given the big picture and work from there. When given a task, the Intuitive person would rather have a defined goal and then be left alone, and the Sensing person wants to have a step by step progression. Sensing people are detail oriented.The Intuitive Person is the guy who walks into a room, puts his keys down and immediately loses them; attention to detail is the Sensing person's realm. The details tend to get in the way of the Intuitive person.Again this is about expending energy vs comfort. Intuitives expend very little energy in attacking the big picture, but can be overdrained and overwhelmed by the steps and process that makes the Sensing person comfortable. I am a highly intuitive person. It is both a blessing and a curse. I did real well in math until calculus, because I could not follow the progressions. Even in Algebra, Geometry and Trig, I was using the big picture to solve my problems: working backwards from multiple choice tests, and had huge problems when I actually had to follow steps to the letter. Calc was a waste of time. Chemistry; I can still remember lots of stuff, theories, equations, properties of elements, I can still set up most of the heavy equations, but I have the hardest time computing them...I wish that more people would look to tests such as the Meyer's-Briggs. I have found it immensely helpful in my roles of coach and instructor. It really helps to have things explained in the manner in which you are comfortable. Intuitive vs Sensing, I believe are the 2 most important in terms of education and educating. Nothing is worse than feeling as if you are drowning in a sea of information, or that you are being tied down by all the details. Of course the other groupings are important, but I have gotten the most use out of the I vs S category. The two people I have run seminars with have the same basic knowledge that I have, but they are highly Sensing and I am highly Intuitive. This works great because we can give people the same information in a manner that will be well received and easy to process. RonOn Feb 10, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Ted Tagami wrote: Where do PERverts fit on the scale? ;) Seriously, depends on the day/place/people for me. I can really dig into some social scenes, while others wear me out. Same with working alone. Sometimes, I can plow right through it, other times, it's tough even coming up with the next action item or spark of creativity. Maybe I just suffer from ADD...On 2/10/06, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am the definitive Gemini, I like the peace and tranquility of being by myself with no distractions then I also love being the centre of attention. I'm just nuts.On 10 Feb 2006, at 16:09, Stephanie Bryant wrote: I'm curious: How many of you are introverts, and how many are extroverts? Some detail: An introvert is someone who is re-energized by being alone, but when they spend a lot of time around people, they feel drained and maybe anxious afterwards. An extrovert is the opposite: energized in the presence of others, but drained after a weekend in isolation. Most people are somewhere in the middle. Note that this has nothing to do with shyness or stage fright/stage presence. I would like the lurkers to respond, too, if you all don't mind (since otherwise the results will naturally be skewed towards the extroverts, introverts being more likely to lurk on forums). Where do you put yourself in the "introvert/extrovert" spectrum? [If you've taken the Meiers-Brigg personality test, you pretty much know already]. And if you're willing to mention it, where is your videoblog? I'm interested to know if there's a higher percentage of one personality trait or the other, and I'm keenly interested in knowing if introverts and extroverts make different styles of videoblogs. Also, if you're the kind of person who adamantly hates labels like this, I guess I don't mind you not answering. --Stephanie PS: I'll answer, but I don't want to skew the first results. --
[videoblogging] Spam and such...
I recently sent off a Shameless Self Promotion note to this list. I have realized since that it is considered spamming to ask people to check out a piece of work. If that was not spam, disregard this entire note. If you think it was read on and let's discuss this. I wanted people from this list to see the piece, as I was proud of it. It was a project instead of a simple vlog entry. I guess I am not allowed to do that because it is spamming. I might be out of line her; misunderstanding something, or maybe I didn't read the rules, but isn't that a problem? Aren't we on here to talk about vlogging? To share our stuff with eachother, not just the technical mumbo-jumbo, or philosophical concepts, but the stuff that we do. There are 5345 vlogs listed in mefeedia these days. How do we get people to see things that we feel are good pieces if we are not community celebrities?This list alone occupies a good deal of time for all of us daily. Most of it is stuff that I am not really interested in. Is that spam? How can I keep in touch with this list and get to see new faces and ideas in the vlogging world. Somebody has to tell me, as I am very busy with my own stuff, as I am sure all of you are as well. My point is that if we cannot send an email to this list asking for others that are doing the same things as we are, only totally different, to check it out and comment on it, what good is this list?I have posted about 30 videos, I think I have asked the list to check out this one, that's it. Why? Because I thought it was pretty good. It was edited from 5 hours of video, the project is 40 gb. There are several really nice shots, from a cinematographic standpoint. I really wanted to get some feedback from it. As I said before, I might be out of line here, totally missing the point about spamming. If that note that I sent asking people to check out a piece of mine that I worked hard on, and thought was good, was spam, then I think that is a problem with this list. On Feb 10, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Rachel Knight wrote: Introvert, although I can deal with people in a work situation, but social situations leave me fatigued and scared. Too many people, human beings scare me, lol. Give me cats any day. Yes, I have noticed the tendency towards insanity in vloggers. I'm glad you are doing this research, it is the kind of thing I would like to do, I would like to know the results when you get them, along with statistical significance etc. If it works, I might try a bit of at home research I have always wanted to do and see if I can find anything significant in that. Rachel (Alternative Kitten)On 10 Feb 2006, at 16:09, Stephanie Bryant wrote: I'm curious: How many of you are introverts, and how many are extroverts? Some detail: An introvert is someone who is re-energized by being alone, but when they spend a lot of time around people, they feel drained and maybe anxious afterwards. An extrovert is the opposite: energized in the presence of others, but drained after a weekend in isolation. Most people are somewhere in the middle. Note that this has nothing to do with shyness or stage fright/stage presence. I would like the lurkers to respond, too, if you all don't mind (since otherwise the results will naturally be skewed towards the extroverts, introverts being more likely to lurk on forums). Where do you put yourself in the "introvert/extrovert" spectrum? [If you've taken the Meiers-Brigg personality test, you pretty much know already]. And if you're willing to mention it, where is your videoblog? I'm interested to know if there's a higher percentage of one personality trait or the other, and I'm keenly interested in knowing if introverts and extroverts make different styles of videoblogs. Also, if you're the kind of person who adamantly hates labels like this, I guess I don't mind you not answering. --Stephanie PS: I'll answer, but I don't want to skew the first results. -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use
Re: [videoblogging] Just a Blip in the dark? - Affirmative...
yes...On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:09 AM, David Howell wrote: Is anyone else getting timeouts on their videos on Blip? David http://www.taoofdavid.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Shameless Self Promotion
Hey all, If you have about 25 minutes, check out our new vid: http:// k9disc.blip.tv/file/13275 Feedback would be appreciated. cheers, ron Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Enthusiastic Intimacy with Works of Our Own Imaginations...
Kurt Vonnegut: A Requiem for the USA "I now believe,” he writes, “that the only way in which Americans can rise above their ordinariness, can mature sufficiently to rescue themselves and to help rescue the planet, is through enthusiastic intimacy with works of their own imaginations. ..."No big deal guys, just got to go out and save the world. :-)RonOn Feb 5, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Nathan Miller wrote: Correction! Any help would be needed... btw I am not talking about 2 or 3 hours of raw DV footage...I am talking about over 500 GB of footage!!Nathan Miller www.bicycle-sidewalk.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Fwd: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?
Begin forwarded message:From: Apryl Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: January 20, 2006 5:56:52 PM ESTTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams? I get pretty good results with my manfrotto monopod with pistol grip ball. I just articulat the ball so there is an angle (forward or back) and move from there. I looked at the 14$ page a while ago. Cool stuff. RonOn Jan 20, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: Hey, Andy, this is s wiki-worthy!!! Dare I say, "wiki-licious". URL: http://www.voxmedia.org/w/index.php/Videoblogging_Hardware :) XOX, Jan -- "It isn't done alone. Pay more." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Andy Carvin wrote: Hi everyone, I've been thinking about building my own camera stabilizer - a poor man's steadicam, so to speak - and I was wondering if anyone has tried it. I've found a few websites with instructions (or selling instructions), with varying levels of cost and complexity. Two of the more interesting ones are below. The $14 Steadycam http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/ The $14 Steadycam is very bare-bones, but the demo footage on the website is pretty good. The author of the page provides free instructions, and he'll even sell you a kit with all of the parts for $39 plus shipping. Here are two demos of it in action: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/soccer2.mov http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/girl3.mov The instructions and kit look very straightforward, but one practical concern I have is the use of standard plumbing supplies, including pipes and pipe heads. These parts give it somewhat of a T-shaped pipe-bomb look, which could be a major headache if you plan to travel with your steadicam on an airplane. Here's the other one: Hocast Stabilizers http://www.hocast.com/ Hocast seems more sophisticated, but more costly. They have three different models, ranging from a low-budget rig requiring $15 worth of supplies + $13 for the instructions, to a heavy-duty rig requiring $90 of supplies +$22 for the instructions. Their video demos include before/after footage showing how a shot improves by adding the stabilizer: http://www.hocast.com/Video/run.mov http://www.hocast.com/Video/stairs.mov (The clips are _very_ brief, though; frankly, I thought the $14 footage was better.) I've found a few other offers online, but these two are the most intriguing. Has anyone tried building their own steadicam from these sites or others? Have you been happy with the results? thanks, andy -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org (until Jan 31) As of February 1: andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.andycarvin.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Godaddy question
I use siteground, and they seem to be very solid, although I was not looking for video hosting when I set up my accounts. They use fantastico for about 50 useful scripts, and are willing to add any software platform you would like to use if it fits within their guidelines (kind of standard, I believe: 777 permission restrictions). Check out my sites: http://pawsitivevybe.com/mambohttp://pawsitivevybe.com/joomlahttp://pawstivevybe.com/mediawikihttp://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog (wordpress 2.0 installed hours after its release)I also have a tikiwiki on there, but am not willing to share that publicly, as there is some of my super secret Frisbeedog knowledge hidden there. If you guess right on the url, you can check it out (/tiki). Oh well, there is not much on there now and I can always lock it down later... http://pawsitivevybe.com/tikiThey are unbelievable with support and maintenance. I am going to move my other domains over there very soon. If you check them out, please visit them through my referral link: http://www.siteground.com/index.htm?referrerid=18607Later, RonOn Jan 16, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Dawn Endico wrote: I'm glad you asked this question. I'm shopping around for a domain registrar too. Does anyone have any experience with Yahoo? I see they're advertizing $2.99/year for domain registrations. That's such a good price there must be a catch. Do any of you bother with Private Domain Registration? Or do you use a P.O. Box, or is it even worrying about.-- http://walkingonairvideo.blogspot.com/ http://www.speakeasy.org/~endico/maps/usgs.html SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help with audio into computer
I am also interested in learning more about audio in options on a powerbook.ronOn Jan 16, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Richard Show wrote: I have a digital mixer (BOSS BR-864), and it has a usb port and it's done a really good job with music or voice I have recorded, transferred to my computer and used in vlogs.I have also tried to do voice over recording with Final Cut Pro by just sticking a cheap microphone in the mic input and it sounds like crap, naturally. It's a pretty big hassle to have to record voice on my digital recorder, which sounds really good, then upload it to the computer, and then add it to the editing program separately, as opposed to doing it real time. As you probably have guessed, my question is: can I use the digital mixer to record directly onto the computer to use with things like final cut voice over or something like garage band?This is probably a stupid question and the answer is probably "of course you can" or "of course you can not" you big geeb, but that has never stopped me before. The mixer does have (from the manual):a) "Line Out Jack: These are the output jacks for the analog audio signal. You can connect tape recorders, or other recording devices to record the output analog signal from the BR 864" (looks like regular RCA jacks - i think that's what they are called) and b) "Digital Out Connector: Optical connector for outputting digital audio signals. The same sound that is output from LINE OUT is also output from DIGITAL OUT. You can connect a DAT recorder or CD recorder to this connector and make digital recordings of the BR-864's output" ... This is a very weird looking jack I've never seen before. ... oh yeah, I also noticed that my power book does not have a "line in" hole like my PC does, just a mic and headphone jack, so I don't know if that makes a difference... Any help would be much appreciated ... thanks! ... Richard p.s. I have some nice microphones - old Sure SM58s, if that makes any difference - I use these with the mixer, but have never tried to find some sort of jack that would make it fit in the tiny little mic hole in the computer ... not knowing if that would make any difference .. -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Incredible Dog Challenge Podcast and Televised...
http://events.purina.com/dogs/events/idcwest2005/ Here is a link to the Incredible Dog Challenge podcast page. Check out the flying disc finals and Eastern Regionals to see my dog, Leilani and I, and if you want to see some carnage, check out the Western Regional. Such a bummer that we have idiot announcers that have no idea what this game is all about and manage to give Discdoggers a bad name. Anyway, this will be televised today: 12:30pm-2pm EST on NBC. Hope you all enjoy. Ron Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Incredible Dog Challenge Podcast and Televised...
and with it or something, not actually so it can be seen or heard by as many people as possible. Like it's not about communication it's about techno- hype and techno-hippitude. Or! maybe they didn't want people stealing it... I hear that one a lot too. :) Oh... and I'm going to take this opportunity to poke some fun at Eric Rice for having one of the best damn Video and Audio Podcast systems that never ever gets talked about because he collects your credit card at the door and times you before he let's you look around his store at the merchandise... Eric! come on, when's the last time you went to a store and they collected your credit card at the door and said.. you've got 7 minutes otherwise we're automatically charging you $5. It's all about open access people... how do you get seen in an universe where information is so abundant it's warfare?! Buy even more ads! NO! You make your self accessible for christ sake! It's free! I'm sure Eric Rice's Audioblog.com service was accessible enough when he first rolled it out a couple years ago or so... and what the hell I'm sure it'll be profitable enough if he keeps going with it the way he is... but in this world where we make the rules we need to be asking ourselves not how accessible does it have to be... but how open and accessible can I make it... and let me tell you... using eric's audioblog.com as a guinea pig... eric's not going to loose any money if he allows anyone to come in and play with audioblog.com and post a few trial podcasts or vlogs with limited distribution, say 100 downloads so they can try out the system... more than likely they'll get hooked and realize that at $5 a month it's an amazing hot damn deal! More though... it'll get them dabbling and playing with it... and talking... and recommending. Or... he can keep putting out press releases about cool new things like their new support for ipod compatible mp4 video in which everyone says yeah... that's cool and then goes back to their life because they don't use and aren't going to pay the $5 to check out how cool is really is... It's the great god damn pay wall of china! The curse iron curtain of russia... know knowlege of said functions behind this wall shall ever become public! Can you imagine if ebay didn't allow you to search until you set up an account with a credit card? Why do people go nuts about having to signup with the NYTimes just to read a freaking story... and not about Eric's Audioblog.com? Because noone knows about the damn audioblog.com? Maybe I should start a poll! Who hear has ever used audioblog.com? Who hear knows that audioblog.com does video? Who hear knows what formats of video it supports? Who here has even heard of audioblog.com before this email.. Now... Who hear has ever used blip.tv? What can you tell me about blip.tv? Who hear has ever used Youtube! What do you know about Youtube? Any other services I should include in this poll? I'll guarentee you audioblog will come out dead fucking last in awareness! Doh! Whatever! I give up. Eric's a stubborn mo fo! And Eric... change the goddam name already! LOL! ... and you're destroying you damn first movers advantage! It's tuff love baby! Sorry, I just get cranky when I see such cool stuff, almost make it and then just fail miserably. Ron, if you know someone over there at Purina I'd be happy to lend my expertise as to best practices to search-ability and accessibility. It's my pleasure to share my freakish aptitude and detailed insight into the how and why of such issues and would be happy to offer my expertise free of charge just to see their video podcast not suck for them. In fact I have a good mind to run their feed through feedburner and instantly increase their exposure 1000 fold... take that you unknowingly inaccessible brilliant fools! Peace, -Mike Michael Meiser http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - del.icio.us link blog http://evilvlog.com - Serious lunacy has a new domain. http://mefeedia.com On Jan 15, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Ron Watson wrote: http://events.purina.com/dogs/events/idcwest2005/ Here is a link to the Incredible Dog Challenge podcast page. Check out the flying disc finals and Eastern Regionals to see my dog, Leilani and I, and if you want to see some carnage, check out the Western Regional. Such a bummer that we have idiot announcers that have no idea what this game is all about and manage to give Discdoggers a bad name. Anyway, this will be televised today: 12:30pm-2pm EST on NBC. Hope you all enjoy. Ron Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: green Screen Tips
Just did a soundcheck in the 'studio' : http://k9disc.blip.tv/file/9699 . Comments are desired and welcome.RonOn Jan 13, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Kent Nichols wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how many other regular "shows" are out there now? i know of: ---carolandsteve show --kitkast --rocketboom --mobuzz tv --tinytube --??? Don't forget the brand spanking new, Ask A Ninja, currently #24 on the iTunes most subscribed list. -Kent, http://AskANinja.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Pjk productions does porn!!!
Paul, I mentioned that I am in the Apple store right now in my blip comments, and your post is still stuck right up there at the top of the page. So funny, there are people all around, and my bookmark to blip goes to the group blog, so whenever I check my latest post, I see your hot chic and so does everyone else in the store, funny.Later, RonOn Jan 13, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Paul Knight wrote:I advise all to watch my latest movie, it's hot!! That's all I'll say!link http://blip.tv/file/get/Pjkproductions-SEX526.mp4paulDo yourself a favour and Visit my Vloghttp://pjkproductions.blogspot.comIt's worth a laugh and work friendly. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] vlogger intro - k9disc
nterests me... you are not yet jaded by all the fancy technical hocus pocus as I am. I've forgotten what it's like to approach vlogging with fresh eyes. And you likely have a clarity of what you want to accomplish I can help you execute.Well, I've written to much for a first hello, and i believe I'm getting wordy because I've been up to late working once again.So, please feel free to respond by email or IM me if you like. All my contact information is below.Peace,-Mike Michael Meiseremail [EMAIL PROTECTED]cell 312.523.1066skype mmeiseraol-IM mmeiser01msn-IM mmeiser8yahoo-IM mmeiser8web site http://mmeiser.comblogs http://mmeiser.com/blog http://evilvlog.com - collaborativelink blog http://del.icio.us/mmeiserprojects http://mefeedia.comphotos http://flickr.com/photos/mmeiser http://flickr.com/photos/mmeiser2 On Dec 15, 2005, at 12:13 PM, Ron Watson wrote: Hey all, Another noob here. Judging by the names on the list you all are the people responsible for the vlog becoming a reality. Thanks for doing all the leg work on this.I checked out vlogging early 05, and it just didn't seem to be there yet. You all have done an amazing job making this work.My vlog will be dog focused, as I play Frisbee with my dogs professionally, and am moving into regular old pet training, with a slight twist: not obedience, but interaction. Anyway, I am currently vlogging @ http://k9disc.blip.tv . The old k9athlete site http://k9athlete.com has been up for over 7 years and has given me unbelievable opportunities to travel and teach. It has been used as a resource on at least 5 continents (from email correspondence). It is time to take it to the next level.I plan on bringing some of our dog knowledge to the masses with my vlogs, and if I am diligent with dragging my camera along to events and goings on, I should be able to provide quite a bit of comic relief as well.Can someone point me to a good breakdown of imovie export settings? I am having some problems and could use some solid information. I'd be happy to take that info offline, but it might be a good idea to post it again for all of us noobs...Thanks again for all the work you do.Cheers, Ron Watsonhttp://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9athlete.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:49 AM, Steve Garfield wrote:You won't need streaming.On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I initially sought a host for "Blogging" and selected 1and1.com which doe not host domains needing streaming video. How does "Hosting a Vlog and a Blog work" considering I've registered STARKBLOG.COM AND STARKVLOG.COM domains with 1and1.com. --Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...
There we go, RIchard!Po: Video Blogging should not make money. What is the byproduct of that?Your post gets to some valid points that immediately make me feel good about our prospects in maintaining control over our media and the ability to distribute it.The idea that we can race them to the bottom, in terms of making money off of media is interesting to me. If there is no money in media then there is no sense in controlling it, is there? Of course that would mean there would have to be some kind of disincentive to spending on media. Rest assured that I will be trying to wrap my head around that.of money and the origin of this thread:My original post was not intended to say that we should all be making money off of vlogging. In fact, I strenuously disagree with that statement. My point was that the only options available are advertisement and sponsorship, and that those are what has led us to this point in media; where the customers of the media, corporations, use the media to pull the wool over an unsuspecting public's eyes. Why do we only allow these options for funding to be reasonable. If we move to a sponsorship/advertising economic model, we will fall right into that system. They will hold the coin purse which will give them control over the barriers for entry, which will leave us in exactly the same place we started. rambling... sorry... but that is the point of this, isn't it?ronOn Jan 6, 2006, at 8:13 AM, Richard Bennett-Forrest wrote: Working out ways to making videoblogging pay, is like working out a way to make sitting at home playing dominos pay.* It's the same with any amateur creative endeavour, in a short period of time, new people end up with an inflated sense of self worth. In our community, its because of a false equation that "we" are the same as big media. i.e. they make content, they make money; I make content, so I should make money. Perhaps the equation should be: I make content, I don't make money; they make content, so they shouldn't make any either. With more and more free content coming out by the day, perhaps instead of asking how to make money, people should either go and work for a big media content provider (while they still exist), or have a big long rational think about why they're videoblogging in the first place, and ask the question: what's so special about me that someone would want to pay me money? Regards, Richard * Somewhere in the world, there are a dozen or so domino players making less than enough to live off. I'd prefer to get a real job. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
