Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Christopher Chaltain]

A TracFone is a pre paid wireless phone https://www.tracfone.com/?lang=en


I assume they meant an iPhone 7 Plus.



On 09/24/2018 12:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

What is a Tracphone?
Also, I assume you meant to say that you have an iPhone 6S since there is no 7S.
I have a 6S Plus and plan to keep it for at least this coming year, it would be 
the fourth year, maybe I'll even keep it for a fifth year, all depends on what 
Apple comes up with next fall and what else I want to spend money on. Of course 
if I win in the lotterie I'll buy an iPhone XS the next day just because, but 
it's rather unlikely although somebody did just win a million bucks in my 
little town of just over 5,000 people.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:46 PM
To: Visually impaired phone users 
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Yep. Dependence on technology that only works some of the time can be a real 
headache. Oh, and Face ID can’t contend with a totally blind person the right 
way (it’s that stupid attention filter). Still, having a passcode is still the 
old fallback.

Btw, I run an iPhone 7S here. I don’t have the funds to upgrade any further and 
if the phone ceases to be of use, I will end up buying a tracphone at the local 
Walmart for about $50. Then I can port over my number and call it good.

Sure, the iPhone has a lot of neat features, a very secure (mostly) App Store 
and all of that, but it’s way too pricey to continue upgrading.

-Eric



On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

If you go back 5 years you can read the same sort of stories about the then new 
Touch Id.
Fingerprint scanners of course have been around on various laptops, electronic 
doors and so on for a lot longer, but it's also interesting that until Apple 
came out with Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I remember I once 
bought a fingerprint deadbolt for my front door and man was I sometimes cursing 
when I was standing there in the cold trying to unlock my door only to finally 
dig out the good old key and of course fingerprint doorlocks have all but 
disappeared.
Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the second generation  Touch Id on the 
6S and up (5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch Id) works well if it 
does work, but as I said in my other message, it only works well if your little 
fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Gordon
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough
of Them, (Smile)

This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer
phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how
that went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for
a couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since
they are forcing face ID on us.


On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.

A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always
telling me how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him;
to which I always reply, "Good for you."

Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door
opener which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his 
home.


Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so
late, I feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he
called complaining that he could not get into his garage using his
iPhone because Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his
motorcycle helmet as his bike approached.  He said, to his dismay,
even when he took his helmet off, the phone would not recognize him in the dark.

I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have
not spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to
vent to someone who would care either one way or the other.

What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so
confident in Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase
a remote control for the garage door system.

He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
(smile)

He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote
control for the opener.

Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,
(Big Smile).

Mark



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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What is a Tracphone?
Also, I assume you meant to say that you have an iPhone 6S since there is no 7S.
I have a 6S Plus and plan to keep it for at least this coming year, it would be 
the fourth year, maybe I'll even keep it for a fifth year, all depends on what 
Apple comes up with next fall and what else I want to spend money on. Of course 
if I win in the lotterie I'll buy an iPhone XS the next day just because, but 
it's rather unlikely although somebody did just win a million bucks in my 
little town of just over 5,000 people.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:46 PM
To: Visually impaired phone users 
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Yep. Dependence on technology that only works some of the time can be a real 
headache. Oh, and Face ID can’t contend with a totally blind person the right 
way (it’s that stupid attention filter). Still, having a passcode is still the 
old fallback.

Btw, I run an iPhone 7S here. I don’t have the funds to upgrade any further and 
if the phone ceases to be of use, I will end up buying a tracphone at the local 
Walmart for about $50. Then I can port over my number and call it good.

Sure, the iPhone has a lot of neat features, a very secure (mostly) App Store 
and all of that, but it’s way too pricey to continue upgrading.

-Eric


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If you go back 5 years you can read the same sort of stories about the then 
> new Touch Id.
> Fingerprint scanners of course have been around on various laptops, 
> electronic doors and so on for a lot longer, but it's also interesting that 
> until Apple came out with Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I 
> remember I once bought a fingerprint deadbolt for my front door and man was I 
> sometimes cursing when I was standing there in the cold trying to unlock my 
> door only to finally dig out the good old key and of course fingerprint 
> doorlocks have all but disappeared.
> Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the second generation  Touch Id on the 
> 6S and up (5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch Id) works well if it 
> does work, but as I said in my other message, it only works well if your 
> little fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough 
> of Them, (Smile)
> 
> This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer 
> phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how 
> that went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for 
> a couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since 
> they are forcing face ID on us.
> 
> 
> On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always 
>> telling me how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; 
>> to which I always reply, "Good for you."
>> 
>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
>> opener which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his 
>> home.
>> 
>> 
>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so 
>> late, I feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he 
>> called complaining that he could not get into his garage using his 
>> iPhone because Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his 
>> motorcycle helmet as his bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, 
>> even when he took his helmet off, the phone would not recognize him in the 
>> dark.
>> 
>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have 
>> not spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to 
>> vent to someone who would care either one way or the other.
>> 
>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so 
>> confident in Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase 
>> a remote control for the garage door system.
>> 
>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>> (smile)
>> 
>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote 
>> control for the opener.
>> 
>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  
>> (Big Smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business Insider

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, but how many people want to plug their phone into their Mac book if they 
even are part of the small minority of people around the world who have one and 
everybody has regular USB-A type wall chargers around and they are super easy 
to find if you are travelling and lose one or forget one in a hotel. I'm sure 
USB-C will become the standard in the next 2 or so years, but I think last year 
and this year would have been a bit too early.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, 
Business Insider

They should have made this standard last year. I mean come on you
release a macbook with only usb C and then don't make it so your
phones can plug right in. Also fast chargers should totally come in
the box.

On 9/23/18, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Carolyn,
>
> No, you don't have to buy an extra cable or charger unless you want to plug
> your iPhone into an Apple laptop for charging and here it has to be one
> which came out in the last couple of years since they only have a USB-C port
> so you either need an adapter or a separate cable. You would also need said
> USB-C cable along with a USB-C type wall charger if you want to use Apple's
> fast charger technology, if you have those two items (that I think is where
> the $70 comes from) then you apparently can charge one of the new iPhones
> from 0 to 50% in half an hour.
> Apart from that all new iPhones still come with the familiar cable you
> already own with the Lightning plug on one end to plug into your phone and
> with a traditional USB-A type connector on the other end. This one can be
> plugged into any Windows laptop or desktop for charging or syncing and in a
> gazillion wall chargers which you can buy everywhere.
> Of course if you are not buying a new phone for another year or two chances
> are by then that a USB-C cable will be standard with all iPhones.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone,
> Business Insider
>
> So, if I replaced my phone, I'd have to buy a cable, and it would be $70?
> That being the case, why wouldn't I, before purchasing phone buy cable,
> charger, and connecter for magnetic cable from Accessible electronics for
> $11.99 for a three foot one or $13.99 for a five foot one> I am asking this,
> because I really want to know for down the road. Does the XR have a cable?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone,
> Business Insider
>
> My guess is that is is less an oversight than a business decision and that
> Apple knows by not including a USB-C to Lightning cable they can make
> another few Million in profits since people will of course buy them.
> It also means accessory manufacturers who also make such cables and adapters
> are also happy.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
> Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone,
> Business Insider
>
> Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare
> misfire By Matt Weinberger
>
> Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display
> ports, and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple AAPL Apple
> 217.66 -2.37 (-1.10 %)
> Disclaimer Get real-time AAPL charts here >
> . Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for
> charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports.
> . USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as
> USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any
> and all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat!
> . But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if
> you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or
> other gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating!
> . Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously
> when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You
> can't connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out
> for a new cable or adapter.
> . It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing
> the details.
> A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro
> to replace my fast-aging MacBook Air.
> To 

RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi   Marry,

You say we shouldn't be forced to use Face Id, interestingly enough 
when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall people 
complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this mainly had to 
do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or nothing, but Apple has 
shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor and we all know it has 
always been Apple's way to give us what they think is best so there is little 
point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 3.5mm audio jack, Apple   
will not suddenly say next year that based on popular demand they are bringing 
back Touch Id and in any case, if it was put up to a vote I doubt Touch Id 
would win especially now with the improved Face Id, also unless they can figure 
out how to let you put your finger anywhere on the screen for Touch Id, where 
would they put the Touch Id sensor. If you follow the tech news a bit you know 
how much people complained when I think it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor 
on the back of the phone because they of course also got rid of the home 
button. It is my guess that one day phones will have no more buttons at all 
except maybe for the on/off button.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have to 
enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize the 
finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain out of 
a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has a touch 
ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, we could 
string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get real. I think 
there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use Face ID, but 
Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner or later, he 
will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay with Apple.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> 
> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get the 
> new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the iPhone 8 
> plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>> reply, "Good for you."
>> 
>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>> 
>> 
>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  
>> 
>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>> someone who would care either one way or the other.  
>> 
>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
>> for the garage door system.
>> 
>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>> (smile)
>> 
>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
>> the opener.
>> 
>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
>> Smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

['Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone]

Hey guys. According to a Youtube video from a guy called Jeff, AKA Tech Review, 
one of the culprits of battery drainage is a new feature in iOS 12 called 
Screen Time. With screen time enabled, iOS 12 logs your daily usage of your 
phone. Try turning that off and see if that makes a difference. Here's a link 
to that video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOlEgOATxpc

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> That tracking is a battery sucker - I got rid of that. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8
> 
> Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is 
> dropping and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status bar. 
> Under settings, (privacy) I turned location services off. Region tracking no 
> longer appears in the status bar. However, my battery is still dropping. (1) 
> should region tracking appear in the status bar? (2) are there other features 
> that should be disabled in IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery power? 
> 
> Thank you. 
> 
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Eric Oyen]

Yep. Dependence on technology that only works some of the time can be a real 
headache. Oh, and Face ID can’t contend with a totally blind person the right 
way (it’s that stupid attention filter). Still, having a passcode is still the 
old fallback.

Btw, I run an iPhone 7S here. I don’t have the funds to upgrade any further and 
if the phone ceases to be of use, I will end up buying a tracphone at the local 
Walmart for about $50. Then I can port over my number and call it good.

Sure, the iPhone has a lot of neat features, a very secure (mostly) App Store 
and all of that, but it’s way too pricey to continue upgrading.

-Eric


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If you go back 5 years you can read the same sort of stories about the then 
> new Touch Id.
> Fingerprint scanners of course have been around on various laptops, 
> electronic doors and so on for a lot longer, but it's also interesting that 
> until Apple came out with Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I 
> remember I once bought a fingerprint deadbolt for my front door and man was I 
> sometimes cursing when I was standing there in the cold trying to unlock my 
> door only to finally dig out the good old key and of course fingerprint 
> doorlocks have all but disappeared.
> Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the second generation  Touch Id on the 
> 6S and up (5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch Id) works well if it 
> does work, but as I said in my other message, it only works well if your 
> little fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer
> phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how that
> went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for a
> couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since
> they are forcing face ID on us.
> 
> 
> On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>> reply, "Good for you."
>> 
>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>> 
>> 
>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
>> 
>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>> someone who would care either one way or the other.
>> 
>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
>> for the garage door system.
>> 
>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>> (smile)
>> 
>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
>> the opener.
>> 
>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
>> Smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: Problem With Whatsapp and iPhone 8

['Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone]

I lock my recordings all the time in Whatsapp and I don't get this issue. Also, 
I'm a part of seven groups. Three of which I've created myself. I've never 
heard any of the participants in these groups experience this issue. So saying 
that every blind person is experiencing this issue is inaccurate.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Lynn White  wrote:
> 
> Mario,
> 
> You are right about this being a problem with this update.  Steve’s 
> observation is right about it being like a slap back echo.  I do wonder if 
> the common thread is locking the record button.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 3:54 AM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Steve.
>> Yes, it is true, it is a issue that is only real in this WhatsApp update...
>> all People who have upgraded to this version all have this issue.
>> I mean, blind people, personal friends, and friends in discussion groups
>> Now we just need to know if it is an app issue, or accessibility issue 
>> related to VO...
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Às 08:33 de 23/09/2018, Steve Matzura escreveu:
>>> Haven't had garbling, but sometimes folks get messages that are slow and 
>>> have slapback echo. Sounds real funny when it happens.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/22/2018 5:36 PM, Lynn White wrote:
 
 Sent from my iPhoneHas anyone else had an issue where you record a message 
 in Whatsapp and having the message cut short to about 30 seconds and the 
 audio being garbled?
 
 I have run into several friends of mine who have also run into this.  Is 
 there someone at Whatsapp that can be contacted? Thanks.
 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business Insider

[lenron brown]

They should have made this standard last year. I mean come on you
release a macbook with only usb C and then don't make it so your
phones can plug right in. Also fast chargers should totally come in
the box.

On 9/23/18, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Carolyn,
>
> No, you don't have to buy an extra cable or charger unless you want to plug
> your iPhone into an Apple laptop for charging and here it has to be one
> which came out in the last couple of years since they only have a USB-C port
> so you either need an adapter or a separate cable. You would also need said
> USB-C cable along with a USB-C type wall charger if you want to use Apple's
> fast charger technology, if you have those two items (that I think is where
> the $70 comes from) then you apparently can charge one of the new iPhones
> from 0 to 50% in half an hour.
> Apart from that all new iPhones still come with the familiar cable you
> already own with the Lightning plug on one end to plug into your phone and
> with a traditional USB-A type connector on the other end. This one can be
> plugged into any Windows laptop or desktop for charging or syncing and in a
> gazillion wall chargers which you can buy everywhere.
> Of course if you are not buying a new phone for another year or two chances
> are by then that a USB-C cable will be standard with all iPhones.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone,
> Business Insider
>
> So, if I replaced my phone, I'd have to buy a cable, and it would be $70?
> That being the case, why wouldn't I, before purchasing phone buy cable,
> charger, and connecter for magnetic cable from Accessible electronics for
> $11.99 for a three foot one or $13.99 for a five foot one> I am asking this,
> because I really want to know for down the road. Does the XR have a cable?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone,
> Business Insider
>
> My guess is that is is less an oversight than a business decision and that
> Apple knows by not including a USB-C to Lightning cable they can make
> another few Million in profits since people will of course buy them.
> It also means accessory manufacturers who also make such cables and adapters
> are also happy.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
> Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone,
> Business Insider
>
> Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare
> misfire By Matt Weinberger
>
> Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display
> ports, and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple AAPL Apple
> 217.66 -2.37 (-1.10 %)
> Disclaimer Get real-time AAPL charts here >
> . Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for
> charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports.
> . USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as
> USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any
> and all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat!
> . But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if
> you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or
> other gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating!
> . Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously
> when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You
> can't connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out
> for a new cable or adapter.
> . It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing
> the details.
> A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro
> to replace my fast-aging MacBook Air.
> To catch you up, Apple gave its premium, top-shelf MacBook Pro lineup a
> controversial new design starting in 2016. Its keyboard was flimsy and prone
> to breaking (hasn't happened to me yet, and largely fixed by a new model in
> 2018); some versions sported a strange Touch Bar above the keyboard (mine
> doesn't have one); and, worst of all, it replaced the traditional USB ports
> with the new, cutting-edge USB-C (the bane of my existence).
> Yes, it's the last one that really gets under my skin. Starting with the
> 2016 MacBook Pro, Apple took out the charging port, the mini-HDMI port, and
> indeed everything but a headphone jack, and replaced it with nothing more
> than two USB-C ports. 

Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[lenron brown]

I rarely have issues with touch id. I played with my mom's xs max
today a bit more. Getting down the way to get to the home screen and
the app switcher didn't take to long. Also pulling down notifications
and going to the control center. It didn't feel as nice as doing these
things on my 7plus though. I could get use to those things I am sure,
but Face id I can't get in to.

On 9/23/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how
> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have
> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize
> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain
> out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has
> a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another,
> we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get
> real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use
> Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner
> or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay
> with Apple.
>
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>>
>>
>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get
>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the
>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>>>
>>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling
>>> me
>>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I
>>> always
>>> reply, "Good for you."
>>>
>>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door
>>> opener
>>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his
>>> home.
>>>
>>>
>>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late,
>>> I
>>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone
>>> because
>>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as
>>> his
>>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet
>>> off,
>>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
>>>
>>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>>> someone who would care either one way or the other.
>>>
>>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident
>>> in
>>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote
>>> control
>>> for the garage door system.
>>>
>>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>>> (smile)
>>>
>>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control
>>> for
>>> the opener.
>>>
>>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,
>>> (Big
>>> Smile).
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Mary Otten]

I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have to 
enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize the 
finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain out of 
a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has a touch 
ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, we could 
string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get real. I think 
there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use Face ID, but 
Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner or later, he 
will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay with Apple.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> 
> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get the 
> new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the iPhone 8 
> plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>> reply, "Good for you."
>> 
>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>> 
>> 
>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  
>> 
>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>> someone who would care either one way or the other.  
>> 
>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
>> for the garage door system.
>> 
>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>> (smile)
>> 
>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
>> the opener.
>> 
>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
>> Smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

[Mary Otten]

Hi Anna,
OK, I’m really confused now. We’re talking about an audible book, right? So 
somebody is reading this book say on your phone. I just don’t know how to 
translate a phone audio only thing into links. Maybe there’s a PDF thing in my 
audible library.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> There is a link early in the book. it tells you that all the meditations are 
> in the appendix and gives you a link to unlock the content in the app. Again, 
> this is the book Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna,
>> I did read that book on audible. I suppose the book came out before the app. 
>> Where did you go to find a code?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Meditation Basics course is free, and if you get the book Meditation 
>>> for fidgety Skeptics from Audible, you get a code which makes its content 
>>> free. There are also free samples from a lot of the meditation courses. 
>>> There may be more, but that's what I know about.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
 
 
 The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long after 
 the app was discussed here on this list and have been working my way 
 through the meditation basics ever since.
 
 One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available in 
 the app are also available on YouTube. 
 
 Sent from Kimber's iPhone
 The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
 we go on.—Annie Proulx
 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty  
> wrote:
> 
> Anna,
> 
> Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% 
> Happier app.
> 
> I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded 
> that subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, not 
> weekly or monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly $100 
> purchase before using the app for quite some time.
> 
> Is there enough standard content available without additional content 
> purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If 
> later on I do purchase the additional content subscription, is that  
> content VoiceOver accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription 
> content is not accessible.)
> 
> My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard 
> content available. But, it's early in my exploration.
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Richard Petty
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before
> 
> Hello,
> 
> A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 
> 10% Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of 
> accessibility issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know 
> whether everything is accessible, but it's definitely much easier to see 
> what courses are available, choose one, and choose a particular 
> meditation. I'm thrilled that the developers are taking accessibility 
> seriously.
> 
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> Anna
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RE: Two factor authentication message

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, then at some 
point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and they never popped up 
again.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Kalaluhi
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message

Hi 
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  For some odd 
reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for apple Id and two factor 
authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion and/or tip whatever, it takes me 
into settings and I have the choice to install now, learn more, or not now.  
This message pops up randomly and can appear as much as three to four times a 
day.  

I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not Disturb While 
driving.  I went into settings and selected manually for do not disturb.  
However, it pops up every time I get into the car.  I still receive texts and 
other notifications while in the car but also this message.  I cannot find in 
control center or notifications where to get rid of these suggestions or tips 
or whatever they are called.  If anyone can help, I surely would appreciate it. 
Kathy 

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From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two factor authentication message

Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where it asks 
for two Factor authentication in my settings on the iphone?

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Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Oh my stars hopefully I’m not carrying that much gear quite yet but good to 
know such a thing with such a fun description actually exists (laughing lots).
Take good care.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

Hi Robin,

 

Here is an item I sell at my store, it will be perfect to replace your old, too 
small purse:

 

Allen Haul'R Duffle Bag 65.5L

The HAUL’R Duffel Bag has a rugged Endura outer with a large zippered main 
compartment. The bag also features reinforced side carry handles. Perfect for 
throwing your gear in your truck, travel, and many other purposes, this duffel 
bag is dependable and durable.

It is also the perfect purse replacement for the modern american women who 
wants to bring her cuttingboard sized Phablet, carry a selection of pistols and 
other self-defense weapons as well as maxi-sized lipsticks, perfume bottles and 
7 pairs of shoes. The snazzy camoflauge pattern will satisfy the style of even 
the most discerning redneck… you’ll be sure to instantly attract the attention 
of any law enforcement agent anywhere.

Features:

• Dimensions: 13 in. x 15 in. x 30 in.

• NextCamo G2 camouflage

• Exterior zippered accessory pocket

• Padded, removable shoulder strap

 

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

 

Hi,

Kelly it's funny you say this because when I got my first plus device I had 

to buy a new purse because it wouldn't fit in what I had at the time.  They 

just don't make purse pockets for the plus's even now finding a purse to 

handle a folding cane and a plus size phone even the nerdy girls have issues 

oy the challenges (laughing lots).

Robin

 

 

-Original Message- 

From: Kelly Pierce

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

 

Remember mark that the physical shape of the phones needs to fit into

the pants pocket of most men. If it can't fit into a back pants

pocket, the phone is a deal breaker for many. The edge to edge screen

and plus size form factor enables Apple to deliver huge screens for a

smart phone without massively blowing up the size so nerdy males won't

buy it.

 

 

the disappointment will be for sighted people and the 10 R at the end

of October. Its screen will look about the same as the iPhone 4,

introduced in 2010.

 

Kelly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 







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On 9/22/18, M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not

> intended

> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.

>

> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected,

> there were almost no customers.

>

> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic

> Apple representative.

>

> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really

> wanted

> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you

> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I

> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could

> wow

> me, enough.

>

> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern

> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its

> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I

> was

> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop

> grinning, every time I held it in my hand.

>

> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It

> felt,

> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a 

> tablet

> computer.

>

> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my

> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)

>

> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like

> Android

> enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped making the

> Mega.

>

>

> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on

> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on

> the 10 S Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, 

RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you go back 5 years you can read the same sort of stories about the then new 
Touch Id.
Fingerprint scanners of course have been around on various laptops, electronic 
doors and so on for a lot longer, but it's also interesting that until Apple 
came out with Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I remember I once 
bought a fingerprint deadbolt for my front door and man was I sometimes cursing 
when I was standing there in the cold trying to unlock my door only to finally 
dig out the good old key and of course fingerprint doorlocks have all but 
disappeared.
Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the second generation  Touch Id on the 
6S and up (5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch Id) works well if it 
does work, but as I said in my other message, it only works well if your little 
fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer 
phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how that 
went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for a 
couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since 
they are forcing face ID on us.


On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>
> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
> reply, "Good for you."
>
> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>
>
> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
>
> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
> someone who would care either one way or the other.
>
> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
> for the garage door system.
>
> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
> (smile)
>
> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
> the opener.
>
> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
> Smile).
>
> Mark
>
>

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Re: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

[Mary Otten]

Well, I wonder if this is an app specific thing? I occasionally use 
Twitterrific still, although I’m not that big on Twitter anymore. The refresh 
work just fine. I’ve also had it work on the App Store where new updates will 
show up when it first it said I only had one, voice dream reader, which I still 
have not updated.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> It's not working hear on  our iphone se.
> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:35 PM
> Subject: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?
> 
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Does the VoiceOver gesture of 3-finger swipe down from top to bottom no
>> longer work?  In iOS 11, this gesture would cause the screen to refresh and
>> VoiceOver would announce this by saying something like, "refreshing app."
>> Now, try as I may, I cannot get this gesture to refresh anything on any app.
>> 
>> Also, single-finger double-tapping the status line, located at the top of
>> the display, no longer consistently scrolls the display back to the top.
>> Sometimes it does, and sometimes, it does not.
>> 
>> Since updating to iOS 12, I have noticed that there appears to be some kind
>> of screen refreshing problem when using certain app such as Over Drive. For
>> example, in situations where additional data is supposed to be automatically
>> updated to match what is currently selected, nothing happens.  In order to
>> get the additional data, I now have to manually activate some kind of
>> control on the page in order to get the page to update/refresh with the
>> additional data.  In the case of Over Drive, recommended books based on the
>> current title in focus.
>> 
>> I have kind of noticed this behavior in certain aspects of the Twitter app
>> and also, I think, in one of my banking apps but I'm not certain as I have
>> only now begun paying attention to this issue.
>> 
>> Before I send a bug report to Apple, I want to confirm any or part of the
>> observations described above.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business Insider

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Carolyn,

No, you don't have to buy an extra cable or charger unless you want to plug 
your iPhone into an Apple laptop for charging and here it has to be one which 
came out in the last couple of years since they only have a USB-C port so you 
either need an adapter or a separate cable. You would also need said USB-C 
cable along with a USB-C type wall charger if you want to use Apple's fast 
charger technology, if you have those two items (that I think is where the $70 
comes from) then you apparently can charge one of the new iPhones from 0 to 50% 
in half an hour.
Apart from that all new iPhones still come with the familiar cable you already 
own with the Lightning plug on one end to plug into your phone and with a 
traditional USB-A type connector on the other end. This one can be plugged into 
any Windows laptop or desktop for charging or syncing and in a gazillion wall 
chargers which you can buy everywhere.
Of course if you are not buying a new phone for another year or two chances are 
by then that a USB-C cable will be standard with all iPhones.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, 
Business Insider

So, if I replaced my phone, I'd have to buy a cable, and it would be $70? That 
being the case, why wouldn't I, before purchasing phone buy cable, charger, and 
connecter for magnetic cable from Accessible electronics for $11.99 for a three 
foot one or $13.99 for a five foot one> I am asking this, because I really want 
to know for down the road. Does the XR have a cable? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, 
Business Insider

My guess is that is is less an oversight than a business decision and that 
Apple knows by not including a USB-C to Lightning cable they can make another 
few Million in profits since people will of course buy them.
It also means accessory manufacturers who also make such cables and adapters 
are also happy.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business 
Insider

Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare 
misfire By Matt Weinberger
 
Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display ports, 
and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple AAPL Apple
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.   Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for
charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports.
.   USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as
USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any and 
all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat!
.   But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if
you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or other 
gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating!
.   Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously
when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You can't 
connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out for a new 
cable or adapter.
.   It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing
the details.
A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro to 
replace my fast-aging MacBook Air. 
To catch you up, Apple gave its premium, top-shelf MacBook Pro lineup a 
controversial new design starting in 2016. Its keyboard was flimsy and prone to 
breaking (hasn't happened to me yet, and largely fixed by a new model in 2018); 
some versions sported a strange Touch Bar above the keyboard (mine doesn't have 
one); and, worst of all, it replaced the traditional USB ports with the new, 
cutting-edge USB-C (the bane of my existence). 
Yes, it's the last one that really gets under my skin. Starting with the
2016 MacBook Pro, Apple took out the charging port, the mini-HDMI port, and 
indeed everything but a headphone jack, and replaced it with nothing more than 
two USB-C ports. It could be worse, though: The regular MacBook only gets a 
single USB-C port. 
It's easy to see where Apple was going with this move. USB-C offers many 
benefits over regular USB (which, by the way, is officially called USB-A) - it 
means that the same cable can be used for charging, for plugging in a monitor, 
or attaching any number of other accessories. And it 

Re: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

[Arlene]

It's not working hear on  our iphone se.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:35 PM
Subject: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?



Hello Everyone,

Does the VoiceOver gesture of 3-finger swipe down from top to bottom no
longer work?  In iOS 11, this gesture would cause the screen to refresh 
and

VoiceOver would announce this by saying something like, "refreshing app."
Now, try as I may, I cannot get this gesture to refresh anything on any 
app.


Also, single-finger double-tapping the status line, located at the top of
the display, no longer consistently scrolls the display back to the top.
Sometimes it does, and sometimes, it does not.

Since updating to iOS 12, I have noticed that there appears to be some 
kind
of screen refreshing problem when using certain app such as Over Drive. 
For
example, in situations where additional data is supposed to be 
automatically

updated to match what is currently selected, nothing happens.  In order to
get the additional data, I now have to manually activate some kind of
control on the page in order to get the page to update/refresh with the
additional data.  In the case of Over Drive, recommended books based on 
the

current title in focus.

I have kind of noticed this behavior in certain aspects of the Twitter app
and also, I think, in one of my banking apps but I'm not certain as I have
only now begun paying attention to this issue.

Before I send a bug report to Apple, I want to confirm any or part of the
observations described above.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Sieghard Weitzel]

HI Mark,

There may have just been other factors involved because Face Id uses infrared 
and  it should make no difference whether it's light or dark, here is what 
Apple says:

Face ID automatically adapts to changes in your appearance, such as wearing 
cosmetic makeup or growing facial hair. If there is a more significant change 
in your appearance, like shaving a full beard, Face ID confirms your identity 
by using your passcode before it updates your face data. Face ID is designed to 
work with hats, scarves, glasses, contact lenses, and many sunglasses. 
Furthermore, it's designed to work indoors, outdoors, and even in total 
darkness.

When viewed through certain types of cameras, you may notice light output from 
the TrueDepth camera. This is expected as some cameras may detect infrared 
light. Some may also notice a faint light output from the TrueDepth camera when 
viewed in a very dark room. This is expected in extremely dark settings.

I don't have an iPhone X or XS, but all I can say that while it may not be 
absolutely 100% perfect, Touch Id also is not and in fact there are times when 
I can't use Touch Id for a week or two if I do a lot of woodowrking or other 
manual labour, my brother who has a working cattle ranch as well as a 
contracting business running heavy equipment doesn't even need to bother with 
Touch Id since his hands usually are to dirty or roughed up for Touch Id to 
work and in his case Face Id would be a huge improvement. Of course I never 
heard Apple talk about Touch Id and how well it works for people who constantly 
perform manual labour like welders, carpenters, guys who work with concrete or 
lay bricks etc. Then there are those outdoor jobs where it is necessary that 
you wear gloves most of the time because of cold temperatures or for 
protection, here Face Id again would most likely win out over Touch I d when it 
comes to convenience and reliability.
Of course when you are riding a motorbike you most likely also wear gloves so 
unlocking your garage door as you are approaching even if you have  your phone 
mounted where you can reach it might be a problem and in some cases a good old 
little button you can push beats the more advanced technology.

Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Hello Everyone,

As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.

A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
reply, "Good for you."

Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.


Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  

I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
someone who would care either one way or the other.  

What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
for the garage door system.

He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
(smile)

He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
the opener.

Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
Smile).

Mark


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RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[janet gross]

Hi Nancy, 
So you're going to keep your phone as long as you can.  I don't blame you 
especially if your phone is providing you what you want it to do.  Good for 
you, I'm happy to hear that.  
sJanet 




-Original Message-
From: 'Nancy Badger' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

I am still desperately clinging to my iPhone 6 Plus. I love that it is large 
enough for me to use what limited vision I have left. Of course I can’t read 
anything on the phone, but I can see where one I can’t stops and another one 
starts. I won’t get a new phone until I absolutely have to. By the way, that 
duffel bag sure was funny

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> To be honest I don't even put my X in a separate pocket in my purse. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robin Frost
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
> 
> Hi,
> Kelly it's funny you say this because when I got my first plus device I had 
> to buy a new purse because it wouldn't fit in what I had at the time.  They 
> just don't make purse pockets for the plus's even now finding a purse to 
> handle a folding cane and a plus size phone even the nerdy girls have issues 
> oy the challenges (laughing lots).
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
> 
> Remember mark that the physical shape of the phones needs to fit into the 
> pants pocket of most men. If it can't fit into a back pants pocket, the phone 
> is a deal breaker for many. The edge to edge screen and plus size form factor 
> enables Apple to deliver huge screens for a smart phone without massively 
> blowing up the size so nerdy males won't buy it.
> 
> 
> the disappointment will be for sighted people and the 10 R at the end of 
> October. Its screen will look about the same as the iPhone 4, introduced in 
> 2010.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
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>> On 9/22/18, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not 
>> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.
>> 
>> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I 
>> expected, there were almost no customers.
>> 
>> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very 
>> enthusiastic Apple representative.
>> 
>> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really 
>> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display 
>> size.  As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for 
>> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 
>> S Max if it could wow me, enough.
>> 
>> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern 
>> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  
>> Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as 
>> though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just 
>> couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand.
>> 
>> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It 
>> felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone 
>> and a tablet computer.
>> 
>> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with 
>> my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)
>> 
>> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like 
>> Android enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped 
>> making the Mega.
>> 
>> 
>> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, 
>> on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge 
>> form-factor on the 10 S Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it 
>> or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical 
>> to my 8 Plus.
>> 
>> I was so disappointed.  I was 

RE: measure on my iPad mini 4

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The level has been there for I think 2 years, prior to iOS 12 and the measure 
app it was in the compass app.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: measure on my iPad mini 4

It's not on our ipad mini, and as I said it's on our se phones. As far as the 
measure app, the level seems pretty accurate.
- Original Message -
From: Jen .
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: measure on my iPad mini 4

Hi I have the measure app on my iPhone SE just not my iPad mini 4 and iPod 
touch 6.
Wondering if I can download it though.
Jen

On Sep 19, 2018, at 5:58 AM, Robert Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It is not anywhere on the iPad. I am going to find out why.
character is found in how you treat people who 
cannot do anything for 
you!
***
From: Jen .
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: measure on my iPad mini 4
hi I have an iPad mini 4 running iOS 12.0 and do not see the Measure app how do 
I find it
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RE: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I thought we were talking about emojis as in the emoji keyboard not images?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Couple of IOS 12 Questions


Since I never use images and am only guessing as to where the person who posted 
this issue was finding the problem, I made the messaging apps visible, then 
selected the one that said something like hash images, (not really sure) and 
there found the issue he reported of them all being called mime image.
Just trying to help.
Hopefully he can sort it out from here.
But yes, the emoji keyboard images work as always.
Richard


"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right 
place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
Nevill





[Sent from my little hand-held computer]


On Sep 23, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
If I bring up the emoji keyboard Voiceover reads me the emojis as always.
You might want to reboot yoru phone, close all apps in the app switcher, turn 
the phone off, wait 30 seconds or so then turn it back on and see if that fixed 
it.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Blind 
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Subject: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a new 
contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else noticed 
that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an emoji that 
voiceover will no longer read what it is? Mine just announces “Meme images” as 
I swipe through them.

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RE: IOS 12 observations

[janet gross]

Hi Dave, 
So you finally took the plunge!  I'm happy to hear the new update iOS 12 is 
working out for you.  Since I've updated to iOS 12, I can't use the home button 
to check the time quickly in which that was handy, but I'm sure I will get use 
to using the power button as well.  
Lots of luck!  
Janet 
 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations

I have an iPhone 6, and an iPhone 6s, plus my new iPhone 8.

I thought i would try the new Ios 12 update today, on my iPhone 6 first, 
before updating my later phones.

I have to say, that the update is absolutely fine, and the iPhone 6, still 
gives me the time, when i press the home button.

whether this will be the same, when i decide to update my later phones, 
remains to be seen.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Arlene
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations

Mike, that was nice about being able to tap the home button for the time,
but with this alternative way of doing it with tapping the power button is
good too. Yup, apple just messed up our $400 to $1000 clocks, hahahahahaha,
but I'm glad you found doing it with the power button. While it's a very
minor thing, it's something we got so use to doing when checking on the
time. As they say little things mean a lot. Thanks for letting us know.

Arlene

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:22 AM
Subject: IOS 12 observations


> So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one 
> thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no 
> longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken 
> when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just 
> use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.
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RE: Two factor authentication message

[Kathy Kalaluhi]

Hi 
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  For some odd 
reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for apple Id and two factor 
authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion and/or tip whatever, it takes me 
into settings and I have the choice to install now, learn more, or not now.  
This message pops up randomly and can appear as much as three to four times a 
day.  

I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not Disturb While 
driving.  I went into settings and selected manually for do not disturb.  
However, it pops up every time I get into the car.  I still receive texts and 
other notifications while in the car but also this message.  I cannot find in 
control center or notifications where to get rid of these suggestions or tips 
or whatever they are called.  If anyone can help, I surely would appreciate it. 
Kathy 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two factor authentication message

Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where it asks 
for two Factor authentication in my settings on the iphone?

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Re: KoalaSan streaming app?

[anthony]

Both iCast 2 and KoalaSan are online radio broadcasting apps which in 
combination with a hosting account provided by one of many companies, 
allows you to stream audio to hundreds or thousands of people at a time.
It can be used for broadcasting talk shows on a specific topic, a full 
radio show with music and talk or live events.

Unfortunately KoalaSan disappeared some time ago, possibly when Apple 
stopped supporting older (32 bit only) apps.

On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 10:08:17 AM UTC+10, wui chin Leong wrote:
>
> What is that app?
> adrian Leong
> adrian...@icloud.com 
>
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:04 PM, ant...@imperativeapps.com.au  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Hank,
>
> You may want to give iCast 2 a go. 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icast-2/id946633666?ls=1=8
> It has all the features of KoalaSan and more.
>
> Full disclosure though, I am the developer of this app.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
>
> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:47:44 PM UTC+10, Hank Smith wrote:
>>
>> Hello does any one know where to get KoalaSan from, or a alternative ios 
>> app that can replace KoalaSan? 
>>
>> I can no longer find the app on the ios app store 
>>
>> thanks 
>>
>> Hank 
>>
>>
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>> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y 
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Re: IOS 12 observations

[Dave]

I have an iPhone 6, and an iPhone 6s, plus my new iPhone 8.

I thought i would try the new Ios 12 update today, on my iPhone 6 first, 
before updating my later phones.


I have to say, that the update is absolutely fine, and the iPhone 6, still 
gives me the time, when i press the home button.


whether this will be the same, when i decide to update my later phones, 
remains to be seen.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Arlene

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations

Mike, that was nice about being able to tap the home button for the time,
but with this alternative way of doing it with tapping the power button is
good too. Yup, apple just messed up our $400 to $1000 clocks, hahahahahaha,
but I'm glad you found doing it with the power button. While it's a very
minor thing, it's something we got so use to doing when checking on the
time. As they say little things mean a lot. Thanks for letting us know.

Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Arrigo" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:22 AM
Subject: IOS 12 observations


So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one 
thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no 
longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken 
when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just 
use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.


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Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

['Nancy Badger' via VIPhone]

I am still desperately clinging to my iPhone 6 Plus. I love that it is large 
enough for me to use what limited vision I have left. Of course I can’t read 
anything on the phone, but I can see where one I can’t stops and another one 
starts. I won’t get a new phone until I absolutely have to. By the way, that 
duffel bag sure was funny

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> To be honest I don't even put my X in a separate pocket in my purse. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robin Frost
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
> 
> Hi,
> Kelly it's funny you say this because when I got my first plus device I had 
> to buy a new purse because it wouldn't fit in what I had at the time.  They 
> just don't make purse pockets for the plus's even now finding a purse to 
> handle a folding cane and a plus size phone even the nerdy girls have issues 
> oy the challenges (laughing lots).
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
> 
> Remember mark that the physical shape of the phones needs to fit into the 
> pants pocket of most men. If it can't fit into a back pants pocket, the phone 
> is a deal breaker for many. The edge to edge screen and plus size form factor 
> enables Apple to deliver huge screens for a smart phone without massively 
> blowing up the size so nerdy males won't buy it.
> 
> 
> the disappointment will be for sighted people and the 10 R at the end of 
> October. Its screen will look about the same as the iPhone 4, introduced in 
> 2010.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
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>> On 9/22/18, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not 
>> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.
>> 
>> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I 
>> expected, there were almost no customers.
>> 
>> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very 
>> enthusiastic Apple representative.
>> 
>> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really 
>> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display 
>> size.  As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for 
>> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 
>> S Max if it could wow me, enough.
>> 
>> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern 
>> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  
>> Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as 
>> though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just 
>> couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand.
>> 
>> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It 
>> felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone 
>> and a tablet computer.
>> 
>> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with 
>> my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)
>> 
>> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like 
>> Android enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped 
>> making the Mega.
>> 
>> 
>> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, 
>> on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge 
>> form-factor on the 10 S Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it 
>> or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical 
>> to my 8 Plus.
>> 
>> I was so disappointed.  I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple 
>> sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical 
>> attention.
>> 
>> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of 
>> the
>> 10
>> S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be 
>> larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus.  In fact, I suppose, I was 
>> counting on it.
>> 
>> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel 

Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Mary,

There is a link early in the book. it tells you that all the meditations are in 
the appendix and gives you a link to unlock the content in the app. Again, this 
is the book Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> I did read that book on audible. I suppose the book came out before the app. 
> Where did you go to find a code?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Anna Dresner  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Meditation Basics course is free, and if you get the book Meditation for 
>> fidgety Skeptics from Audible, you get a code which makes its content free. 
>> There are also free samples from a lot of the meditation courses. There may 
>> be more, but that's what I know about.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Kimberly >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long after 
>>> the app was discussed here on this list and have been working my way 
>>> through the meditation basics ever since.
>>> 
>>> One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available in 
>>> the app are also available on YouTube. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
>>> we go on.—Annie Proulx
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Anna,
 
 Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% 
 Happier app.
 
 I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded 
 that subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, not 
 weekly or monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly $100 
 purchase before using the app for quite some time.
 
 Is there enough standard content available without additional content 
 purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If 
 later on I do purchase the additional content subscription, is that  
 content VoiceOver accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription 
 content is not accessible.)
 
 My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard 
 content available. But, it's early in my exploration.
 
 Thanks so much.
 
 Richard Petty
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
 Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
 To: VIPhone Mailing List
 Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before
 
 Hello,
 
 A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 10% 
 Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of accessibility 
 issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know whether everything is 
 accessible, but it's definitely much easier to see what courses are 
 available, choose one, and choose a particular meditation. I'm thrilled 
 that the developers are taking accessibility seriously.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
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Re: KoalaSan streaming app?

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

What is that app?
adrian Leong
adrianleon...@icloud.com



> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:04 PM, anth...@imperativeapps.com.au wrote:
> 
> Hi Hank,
> 
> You may want to give iCast 2 a go. 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icast-2/id946633666?ls=1=8 
> 
> It has all the features of KoalaSan and more.
> 
> Full disclosure though, I am the developer of this app.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Anthony
> 
> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:47:44 PM UTC+10, Hank Smith wrote:
> Hello does any one know where to get KoalaSan from, or a alternative ios 
> app that can replace KoalaSan? 
> 
> I can no longer find the app on the ios app store 
> 
> thanks 
> 
> Hank 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: KoalaSan streaming app?

[anthony]

Hi Hank,

You may want to give iCast 2 a go. 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icast-2/id946633666?ls=1=8
It has all the features of KoalaSan and more.

Full disclosure though, I am the developer of this app.

Thanks,

Anthony

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 1:47:44 PM UTC+10, Hank Smith wrote:
>
> Hello does any one know where to get KoalaSan from, or a alternative ios 
> app that can replace KoalaSan? 
>
> I can no longer find the app on the ios app store 
>
> thanks 
>
> Hank 
>
>
> -- 
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> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y 
>
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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Anthony Myatt]

FaceID works in the dark so I suspect something else was going on with your
friend and his garage door opener. Perhaps an iOS software bug; I did have
FaceID refuse to recognise me once when it was new. Stories like that
definitely make you question the reliability and provide a good chuckle for
those still using TouchID.

Thanks,

Anthony

On 24 September 2018 at 9:34:03 am, Maria Reyes (blindstar2...@gmail.com)
wrote:

Lol. Now I just want to go out with my iPhone X in the dark and see if Face
ID will recognize me. I haven't had Face ID fail a whole lot but when it
does it's because I don't hav it where it could recognize me.

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Of Gordon
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of
Them, (Smile)

This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer
phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how that
went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for a couple
of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since they are
forcing face ID on us.


On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>
> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always
> telling me how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to
> which I always reply, "Good for you."
>
> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door
> opener which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches
his home.
>
>
> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm. Since it was so
> late, I feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he
> called complaining that he could not get into his garage using his
> iPhone because Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his
> motorcycle helmet as his bike approached. He said, to his dismay,
> even when he took his helmet off, the phone would not recognize him in
the dark.
>
> I could not stop laughing. I don't know why he called me as we have
> not spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to
> vent to someone who would care either one way or the other.
>
> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so
> confident in Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase
> a remote control for the garage door system.
>
> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
> (smile)
>
> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote
> control for the opener.
>
> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,
> (Big Smile).
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Michael Irons]

After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get the 
new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the iPhone 8 
plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
> 
> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
> reply, "Good for you."
> 
> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
> 
> 
> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  
> 
> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
> someone who would care either one way or the other.  
> 
> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
> for the garage door system.
> 
> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
> (smile)
> 
> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
> the opener.
> 
> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
> Smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Maria Reyes]

Lol. Now I just want to go out with my iPhone X in the dark and see if Face ID 
will recognize me. I haven't had Face ID fail a whole lot but when it does it's 
because I don't hav it where it could recognize me. 

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Gordon
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer phones. 
I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how that went. So I'll 
be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for a couple of years. By then 
maybe they will have advanced face ID since they are forcing face ID on us.


On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>
> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always 
> telling me how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to 
> which I always reply, "Good for you."
>
> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
> opener which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his 
> home.
>
>
> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so 
> late, I feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he 
> called complaining that he could not get into his garage using his 
> iPhone because Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his 
> motorcycle helmet as his bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, 
> even when he took his helmet off, the phone would not recognize him in the 
> dark.
>
> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have 
> not spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to 
> vent to someone who would care either one way or the other.
>
> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so 
> confident in Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase 
> a remote control for the garage door system.
>
> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
> (smile)
>
> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote 
> control for the opener.
>
> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  
> (Big Smile).
>
> Mark
>
>

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RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business Insider

[Carolyn Arnold]

So, if I replaced my phone, I'd have to buy a cable, and it would be $70? That 
being the case, why wouldn't I, before purchasing phone buy cable, charger, and 
connecter for magnetic cable from Accessible electronics for $11.99 for a three 
foot one or $13.99 for a five foot one> I am asking this, because I really want 
to know for down the road. Does the XR have a cable? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, 
Business Insider

My guess is that is is less an oversight than a business decision and that 
Apple knows by not including a USB-C to Lightning cable they can make another 
few Million in profits since people will of course buy them.
It also means accessory manufacturers who also make such cables and adapters 
are also happy.


-Original Message-
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Subject: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business 
Insider

Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare 
misfire By Matt Weinberger
 
Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display ports, 
and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple AAPL Apple
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.   Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for
charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports.
.   USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as
USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any and 
all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat!
.   But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if
you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or other 
gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating!
.   Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously
when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You can't 
connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out for a new 
cable or adapter.
.   It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing
the details.
A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro to 
replace my fast-aging MacBook Air. 
To catch you up, Apple gave its premium, top-shelf MacBook Pro lineup a 
controversial new design starting in 2016. Its keyboard was flimsy and prone to 
breaking (hasn't happened to me yet, and largely fixed by a new model in 2018); 
some versions sported a strange Touch Bar above the keyboard (mine doesn't have 
one); and, worst of all, it replaced the traditional USB ports with the new, 
cutting-edge USB-C (the bane of my existence). 
Yes, it's the last one that really gets under my skin. Starting with the
2016 MacBook Pro, Apple took out the charging port, the mini-HDMI port, and 
indeed everything but a headphone jack, and replaced it with nothing more than 
two USB-C ports. It could be worse, though: The regular MacBook only gets a 
single USB-C port. 
It's easy to see where Apple was going with this move. USB-C offers many 
benefits over regular USB (which, by the way, is officially called USB-A) - it 
means that the same cable can be used for charging, for plugging in a monitor, 
or attaching any number of other accessories. And it sidesteps the most 
annoying thing about USB: The connector plugs in no matter which side is facing 
up. It's elegant in a way that feels very Apple-y, for lack of a better term. 
It also means that any USB-C charger can work with any USB-C gadget. When I'm 
traveling, I don't need to pack a separate charger for my Nintendo Switch - my 
MacBook Pro charger will power it up just fine. (I mean, I pack a separate 
Switch charger anyway, but that's because I'm neurotic, not because I have to.) 
If you have a phone or tablet that charges via USB-C, like a Google Pixel 2 or 
Microsoft Surface Go, you'd be able to charge it from there, too. 
This is the gear you would neat to give your iPhone the fastest possible 
charge. The cable on the right connects USB-C to Lightning - the kind of cable 
you'd need to connect an iPhone to the newest MacBook Pro line. Apple It's not 
unusual for Apple to get out ahead of the curve on new standards like this. The 
original iMac caught a ton of flack in the '90s for not including a floppy disk 
drive, but that turned out to be the right move, as the rise of the internet, 
re-writable CDs, and USB flash drives combined to make them quickly obsolete. 
This time, though, Apple may have outsmarted itself. Because while a handful of 
gadget-makers, like Google and Nintendo, have pushed boldly into the USB-C 

Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Gordon]

This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer 
phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how that 
went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for a 
couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since 
they are forcing face ID on us.



On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.

A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
reply, "Good for you."

Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.


Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
the phone would not recognize him in the dark.

I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
someone who would care either one way or the other.

What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
for the garage door system.

He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
(smile)

He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
the opener.

Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
Smile).

Mark




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Re: IOS 12 observations

[Arlene]

Mike, that was nice about being able to tap the home button for the time, 
but with this alternative way of doing it with tapping the power button is 
good too. Yup, apple just messed up our $400 to $1000 clocks, hahahahahaha, 
but I'm glad you found doing it with the power button. While it's a very 
minor thing, it's something we got so use to doing when checking on the 
time. As they say little things mean a lot. Thanks for letting us know.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Arrigo" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:22 AM
Subject: IOS 12 observations


So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one 
thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no 
longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken 
when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just 
use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.


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Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.

A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
reply, "Good for you."

Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.


Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  

I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
someone who would care either one way or the other.  

What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
for the garage door system.

He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
(smile)

He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
the opener.

Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
Smile).

Mark


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Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

[Arlene]

Our ipad mini doesn't have a compass on it either.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Wright 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:33 AM
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For


  I just discovered that my iPad mini does not have the compass app either.

   

  character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
***

   

  From: 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:42 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  Hello everyone.

   

  During the beta cycle, I discovered Measure was not on all my devices either, 
like my iPad Mini 2 and 6th generation iPod Touch. I therefore conclude that 
since Measure is an app using Augmented Reality, it is only available on 
devices starting with iPhone 6s and 5th generation iPad.


  On 19 Sep 2018, at 04:38, mich verrier  wrote:

I have 7 pages and I have looked in all the folders and through the apps 
and can’t find mesure anywhere. I have a eye phone 6 and have updated it to ios 
12. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: September 18, 2018 11:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It 
For

 

I have 2 screens of folders and I found it as the very last item on the 
last screen.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: mich verrier 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:24 PM

  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use 
It For

   

  I looked for the mesure app on my phone and didn’t find it. Is this a app 
that you need to download? From Mich.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
  Sent: September 18, 2018 9:40 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use 
It For

   

  o how cool!!!  Is this a native ap for ios 12, or can you get it for 
earlier versions?

   

  From: Robert Wright 

  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:27 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use 
It For

   

  Here is what you can accomplish with the measurement app with voiceover 
turned on. 

   

  Let’s say you wish to measure your dining room table. 

1.. Open the measure app. 
2.. Place your  phone back camera facing down over one end of your 
tablde. 
3.. Touch the middle of the screen  You should hear it say,  add a 
point” it will announce “point at center of screen.” double tap. 
4.. Move to the opposite end of the table. As you move it will announce 
distances 
   

  *

  character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!***

   

  From: M. Taylor
  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:41 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

  By Lucia Petersan.

   

  With the release of iOS 12 on Monday, users of Apple mobile devices of all

  kinds gained access to a ton of new apps and tools - including a surprise

  hit: The "Measure" app. What is the iOS 12 Measure app, you ask? It's both

  exactly what it sounds like, and a whole lot more. Through the magic of

  ARKit 2 - the latest version of Apple's augmented reality development kit 
-

  you can use your iPhone or iPad to take the measurements of just about

  anything in your environment. Although the idea of an AR tape measurer 
isn't

  nearly as exciting-sounding as, say, being able to catch a Pokemon in your

  living room, it's one of the more practical applications of AR technology 
-

  and as some folks have demonstrated on Twitter, you can still have some 
fun

  with it, too.

  Apple's own Measure app isn't the first of its kind; other developers have

  previously harnessed the power of ARKit's earlier version, which was

  released in 2017 alongside iOS 11, to create similar apps (with varying

  degrees of success). The functionality of Measure isn't new, either -

  although it works through different technology, the end result isn't

  dramatically different from what you can achieve with a laser distance

  measure. 

   

  What Measure does that these other options don't, however, is make this 
kind

  of tool accessible to anyone with a compatible iOS device. 

Re: measure on my iPad mini 4

[Arlene]

It's not on our ipad mini, and as I said it's on our se phones. As far as the 
measure app, the level seems pretty accurate.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jen . 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 5:13 AM
  Subject: Re: measure on my iPad mini 4


  Hi I have the measure app on my iPhone SE just not my iPad mini 4 and iPod 
touch 6.
  Wondering if I can download it though.
  Jen

  On Sep 19, 2018, at 5:58 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:


It is not anywhere on the iPad. I am going to find out why.



character is found in how you treat people 
who cannot do anything for you!***  
  



From: Jen .
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: measure on my iPad mini 4



hi I have an iPad mini 4 running iOS 12.0 and do not see the Measure app 
how do I find it



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Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

[Mary Otten]

Hi Anna,
I did read that book on audible. I suppose the book came out before the app. 
Where did you go to find a code?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Meditation Basics course is free, and if you get the book Meditation for 
> fidgety Skeptics from Audible, you get a code which makes its content free. 
> There are also free samples from a lot of the meditation courses. There may 
> be more, but that's what I know about.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long after the 
>> app was discussed here on this list and have been working my way through the 
>> meditation basics ever since.
>> 
>> One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available in the 
>> app are also available on YouTube. 
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anna,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% 
>>> Happier app.
>>> 
>>> I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded that 
>>> subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, not weekly 
>>> or monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly $100 purchase 
>>> before using the app for quite some time.
>>> 
>>> Is there enough standard content available without additional content 
>>> purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If 
>>> later on I do purchase the additional content subscription, is that  
>>> content VoiceOver accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription 
>>> content is not accessible.)
>>> 
>>> My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard 
>>> content available. But, it's early in my exploration.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much.
>>> 
>>> Richard Petty
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Woody Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>>> Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 10% 
>>> Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of accessibility 
>>> issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know whether everything is 
>>> accessible, but it's definitely much easier to see what courses are 
>>> available, choose one, and choose a particular meditation. I'm thrilled 
>>> that the developers are taking accessibility seriously.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
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Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

[Arlene]

The measure app is a separate app, in ios 12, even included on the se phones.

  - Original Message - 
  From: mich verrier 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:19 AM
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For


  Hi yes it is at the boddem as a option yes. It is in the cumpus app not a 
sepprit app like I was under the assumption that it was. From Mich.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: September 19, 2018 2:16 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  If you open Compass, do you have the Level at the bottom as an option? I 
assume that maybe Measure then isn’t compatible with the older iPhones like the 
5S and 6 and probably also not with the iPad Mini Jen has.

  Anyhow, if you have the Level in the Compass app then you definitely don’t 
have Measure because on my 6S Plus and other devices the Level function is now 
in the measure app.

   

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  Hi I did tell her to oapin mesure and she said she couldn’t. the only apps I 
see in my extras folder are calclulater and cumpis. There is no mesure in this 
folder and it is not on any of the other 7 pages on my phone. I have even 
looked in the app store and found alot of apps cald mesure and nun of them 
seemed right or I was not shure witch one to download. I am using a eye phone 6 
running ios 12. From Mich.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: September 19, 2018 1:06 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  Have you told SIRI to “Open Measure”?

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mich 
verrier
  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:38 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  I have 7 pages and I have looked in all the folders and through the apps and 
can’t find mesure anywhere. I have a eye phone 6 and have updated it to ios 12. 
From Mich.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: September 18, 2018 11:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  I have 2 screens of folders and I found it as the very last item on the last 
screen.

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: mich verrier 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:24 PM

Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It 
For

 

I looked for the mesure app on my phone and didn’t find it. Is this a app 
that you need to download? From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: September 18, 2018 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It 
For

 

o how cool!!!  Is this a native ap for ios 12, or can you get it for 
earlier versions?

 

From: Robert Wright 

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:27 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It 
For

 

Here is what you can accomplish with the measurement app with voiceover 
turned on. 

 

Let’s say you wish to measure your dining room table. 

  1.. Open the measure app. 
  2.. Place your  phone back camera facing down over one end of your 
tablde. 
  3.. Touch the middle of the screen  You should hear it say,  add a point” 
it will announce “point at center of screen.” double tap. 
  4.. Move to the opposite end of the table. As you move it will announce 
distances 
 

*

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

 

From: M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

 

What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

By Lucia Petersan.

 

With the release of iOS 12 on Monday, users of Apple mobile devices of all

kinds gained access to a ton of new apps and tools - including a surprise

hit: The "Measure" app. What is the iOS 12 Measure app, you ask? It's both

exactly what it sounds like, and a whole lot more. Through the magic of

ARKit 2 - the latest version of Apple's augmented reality development kit -

you can use your iPhone or iPad to take the measurements of just about

anything in your environment. Although the idea of an AR tape measurer isn't

   

Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

[Arlene]

The measure app is on the se phones, and it's a great app. Mark, thanks for 
letting us know about it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:15 AM
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For


  If you open Compass, do you have the Level at the bottom as an option? I 
assume that maybe Measure then isn’t compatible with the older iPhones like the 
5S and 6 and probably also not with the iPad Mini Jen has.

  Anyhow, if you have the Level in the Compass app then you definitely don’t 
have Measure because on my 6S Plus and other devices the Level function is now 
in the measure app.

   

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  Hi I did tell her to oapin mesure and she said she couldn’t. the only apps I 
see in my extras folder are calclulater and cumpis. There is no mesure in this 
folder and it is not on any of the other 7 pages on my phone. I have even 
looked in the app store and found alot of apps cald mesure and nun of them 
seemed right or I was not shure witch one to download. I am using a eye phone 6 
running ios 12. From Mich.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: September 19, 2018 1:06 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  Have you told SIRI to “Open Measure”?

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mich 
verrier
  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:38 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  I have 7 pages and I have looked in all the folders and through the apps and 
can’t find mesure anywhere. I have a eye phone 6 and have updated it to ios 12. 
From Mich.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: September 18, 2018 11:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

   

  I have 2 screens of folders and I found it as the very last item on the last 
screen.

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: mich verrier 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:24 PM

Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It 
For

 

I looked for the mesure app on my phone and didn’t find it. Is this a app 
that you need to download? From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: September 18, 2018 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It 
For

 

o how cool!!!  Is this a native ap for ios 12, or can you get it for 
earlier versions?

 

From: Robert Wright 

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:27 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It 
For

 

Here is what you can accomplish with the measurement app with voiceover 
turned on. 

 

Let’s say you wish to measure your dining room table. 

  1.. Open the measure app. 
  2.. Place your  phone back camera facing down over one end of your 
tablde. 
  3.. Touch the middle of the screen  You should hear it say,  add a point” 
it will announce “point at center of screen.” double tap. 
  4.. Move to the opposite end of the table. As you move it will announce 
distances 
 

*

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

 

From: M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

 

What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

By Lucia Petersan.

 

With the release of iOS 12 on Monday, users of Apple mobile devices of all

kinds gained access to a ton of new apps and tools - including a surprise

hit: The "Measure" app. What is the iOS 12 Measure app, you ask? It's both

exactly what it sounds like, and a whole lot more. Through the magic of

ARKit 2 - the latest version of Apple's augmented reality development kit -

you can use your iPhone or iPad to take the measurements of just about

anything in your environment. Although the idea of an AR tape measurer isn't

nearly as exciting-sounding as, say, being able to catch a Pokemon in your

living room, it's one of the more practical applications of AR technology -

and as some folks have demonstrated on Twitter, you can still have some fun

with it, too.

Apple's own Measure app isn't the first of its kind; other developers have

   

Re: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Richard Turner]

Since I never use images and am only guessing as to where the person who posted 
this issue was finding the problem, I made the messaging apps visible, then 
selected the one that said something like hash images, (not really sure) and 
there found the issue he reported of them all being called mime image.
Just trying to help.
Hopefully he can sort it out from here.
But yes, the emoji keyboard images work as always.
Richard



"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right 
place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
Nevill



[Sent from my little hand-held computer]


On Sep 23, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

If I bring up the emoji keyboard Voiceover reads me the emojis as always.
You might want to reboot yoru phone, close all apps in the app switcher, turn 
the phone off, wait 30 seconds or so then turn it back on and see if that fixed 
it.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Blind 
Treasures {Your One Stop Shop}
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a new 
contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else noticed 
that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an emoji that 
voiceover will no longer read what it is? Mine just announces “Meme images” as 
I swipe through them.

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Problem Resolved: REST FINGER TO OPEN INCONSISTENCY ON IPHONE 8 / 8 PLUS, ONLY

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

I meant to post this just after updating my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 12 but
forgot to do so.  

I am happy to report that the annoying rest-finger to-open bug that existed
on the 8 Series since its initial release with iOS 11, was finally fixed
with the release of iOS 12.  Not a major thing but one that irked me,
nevertheless.  I am surprised that, even though Apple acknowledged the
problem, almost immediately, it took them an entire OS release cycle to
resolve the problem.  

You can read my initial report on this, below.

Oh well, better late than never, as the saying goes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: REST FINGER TO OPEN INCONSISTENCY ON IPHONE 8 / 8 PLUS, ONLY

Hello Everyone,  

I submitted the following bug to apple and thought I'd post it here for your
information.  

Although this bug has already been confirmed and discussed by others, on the
web, in Apple discussion forums, blogs, etc, I wanted to contribute to this
conversation since, at issue, is an accessibility feature.

Please feel free to use any or all of my bug report in your own submission
to Apple.

Mark

[BEGIN BUG REPORT]
Subject:
REST FINGER TO OPEN INCONSISTENCY ON IPHONE 8 / 8 PLUS, ONLY

NOTE 1:
This bug only effects the Rest Finger to Open feature in terms of unlocking
the screen.  All other Touch ID functions, including Apple Pay, work
perfectly.

NOTE 2:
I can only reproduce this problem on iPhone 8 / 8 Plus running the latest
commercial release of iOS 11.x as of Sunday, November 12, 2017.

NOTE 3:
The bug only occurs after the device has been powered on for longer than 20
seconds.

BUG DETAILS:
The Rest Finger to Open feature does not work consistently on iPhone 8 / 8
Plus. 

STEPS TO REPRODUCE:  
1.
>From the Settings menu, select General.

2.
Select Accessibility.

3.
Select Home Button.

4.
Set, Rest Finger to Open, to ON.

5.
Lock the display with the Power button.

6.
Press the Power button to wake up the display.

7.
Now, place your finger (with a registered finger print) on the Home button.
Do not actually press the button but, merely, rest your finger on the
button.

Repeat steps 5, 6, and 7, above, in order to experience the bug.  As you can
see, sometimes the Rest Finger to Open feature will work and sometimes, more
often than not, it fails.

WORKAROUND:
The simplest workaround is to first lift, then rest your finger on the Home
button, a second time.
[END BUG REPORT]

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RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[Maria Reyes]

To be honest I don't even put my X in a separate pocket in my purse. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

Hi,
Kelly it's funny you say this because when I got my first plus device I had to 
buy a new purse because it wouldn't fit in what I had at the time.  They just 
don't make purse pockets for the plus's even now finding a purse to handle a 
folding cane and a plus size phone even the nerdy girls have issues oy the 
challenges (laughing lots).
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

Remember mark that the physical shape of the phones needs to fit into the pants 
pocket of most men. If it can't fit into a back pants pocket, the phone is a 
deal breaker for many. The edge to edge screen and plus size form factor 
enables Apple to deliver huge screens for a smart phone without massively 
blowing up the size so nerdy males won't buy it.


the disappointment will be for sighted people and the 10 R at the end of 
October. Its screen will look about the same as the iPhone 4, introduced in 
2010.

Kelly








  
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On 9/22/18, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not 
> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.
>
> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I 
> expected, there were almost no customers.
>
> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very 
> enthusiastic Apple representative.
>
> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really 
> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display 
> size.  As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for 
> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 
> S Max if it could wow me, enough.
>
> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern 
> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  
> Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as 
> though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just 
> couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand.
>
> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It 
> felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone 
> and a tablet computer.
>
> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with 
> my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)
>
> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like 
> Android enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped 
> making the Mega.
>
>
> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, 
> on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge 
> form-factor on the 10 S Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it 
> or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical 
> to my 8 Plus.
>
> I was so disappointed.  I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple 
> sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical 
> attention.
>
> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of 
> the
> 10
> S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be 
> larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus.  In fact, I suppose, I was 
> counting on it.
>
> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much 
> better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, 
> blah, blah!.
>
>
> All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S 
> Max from my beloved 8 Plus.
>
> As for the Apple watch?  Same scenario.  If there is any major size 
> difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a 
> new watch.
>
> Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays 
> without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind 
> of a let-down.  I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me 
> at least, it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for 
> better or worse, set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I 
> hope to return.
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[Maria Reyes]

What about the iPod Nano?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

Too bad they don't offer that wrist strap they used to offer for the iPod Touch 
at one point or maybe it was the iPhone 5C? I mean no self-respecting snowboard 
or paddle boarrd is without a leash, right? I forgot that with the IP68 
waterproof rating you could use some really large mega Phablet as a paddle 
board as well as long as the stylus was long enough and was a little wider on 
one end.
OK, enough joking around, but I seriously wouldn't want anything larger than my 
current 6S Plus and in fact I will probably go back to a smaller device 
whenever I update next which isn't for at least another year.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

Big, Big, Big Smile!

Sieghard, you're the best!!  

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

And why would you want to hold a device the size of an old VHS tape (if 
thinner) up to your face?
And I really think you do need that new Apple Watch 4, at least then if  you go 
to the Apple Store next time and you faint and fall because you are so 
disappointed that you can't use your new iPhone as a snowboard substitute your 
Apple Watch will call 9 1 1 for you *smile*.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

Hello Everyone,

Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended to 
persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.

Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, there 
were almost no customers.  

The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic 
Apple representative.  

Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted to 
be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you may 
recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I discovered 
that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow me, enough.

Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern 
phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its 
physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was a 
little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop grinning, 
every time I held it in my hand.

It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It felt, 
just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet 
computer.  

Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my 
friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)  

I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android 
enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega.


So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on some 
subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on the 10 S 
Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it or not, the actual body, or 
form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus.  

I was so disappointed.  I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales 
rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention.  

Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 S 
Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, much 
larger than my beloved 8 Plus.  In fact, I suppose, I was counting on it.  

The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better the 
display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!.  

All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from my 
beloved 8 Plus.  

As for the Apple watch?  Same scenario.  If there is any major size difference, 
I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new watch.  

Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays without 
increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a let-down.  
I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least, it's the 
marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse, set a 
form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return.

RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business Insider

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I'm an Apple fanboy and all, but it's stuff like this that feels so nickel and 
dime-ish sometimes. 
Like really? Folks are dropping $1000 on your stuff and you're still going to 
squeeze them for a  few extra on this?
OH well... Not much you can do other than I guess try to score a deal on an 
adaptor.

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, 
Business Insider

My guess is that is is less an oversight than a business decision and that 
Apple knows by not including a USB-C to Lightning cable they can make another 
few Million in profits since people will of course buy them.
It also means accessory manufacturers who also make such cables and adapters 
are also happy.


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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:25 PM
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Subject: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business 
Insider

Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare 
misfire By Matt Weinberger
 
Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display ports, 
and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple AAPL Apple
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.   Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for
charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports.
.   USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as
USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any and 
all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat!
.   But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if
you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or other 
gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating!
.   Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously
when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You can't 
connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out for a new 
cable or adapter.
.   It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing
the details.
A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro to 
replace my fast-aging MacBook Air. 
To catch you up, Apple gave its premium, top-shelf MacBook Pro lineup a 
controversial new design starting in 2016. Its keyboard was flimsy and prone to 
breaking (hasn't happened to me yet, and largely fixed by a new model in 2018); 
some versions sported a strange Touch Bar above the keyboard (mine doesn't have 
one); and, worst of all, it replaced the traditional USB ports with the new, 
cutting-edge USB-C (the bane of my existence). 
Yes, it's the last one that really gets under my skin. Starting with the
2016 MacBook Pro, Apple took out the charging port, the mini-HDMI port, and 
indeed everything but a headphone jack, and replaced it with nothing more than 
two USB-C ports. It could be worse, though: The regular MacBook only gets a 
single USB-C port. 
It's easy to see where Apple was going with this move. USB-C offers many 
benefits over regular USB (which, by the way, is officially called USB-A) - it 
means that the same cable can be used for charging, for plugging in a monitor, 
or attaching any number of other accessories. And it sidesteps the most 
annoying thing about USB: The connector plugs in no matter which side is facing 
up. It's elegant in a way that feels very Apple-y, for lack of a better term. 
It also means that any USB-C charger can work with any USB-C gadget. When I'm 
traveling, I don't need to pack a separate charger for my Nintendo Switch - my 
MacBook Pro charger will power it up just fine. (I mean, I pack a separate 
Switch charger anyway, but that's because I'm neurotic, not because I have to.) 
If you have a phone or tablet that charges via USB-C, like a Google Pixel 2 or 
Microsoft Surface Go, you'd be able to charge it from there, too. 
This is the gear you would neat to give your iPhone the fastest possible 
charge. The cable on the right connects USB-C to Lightning - the kind of cable 
you'd need to connect an iPhone to the newest MacBook Pro line. Apple It's not 
unusual for Apple to get out ahead of the curve on new standards like this. The 
original iMac caught a ton of flack in the '90s for not including a floppy disk 
drive, but that turned out to be the right move, as the rise of the internet, 
re-writable CDs, and USB flash drives combined to make them quickly obsolete. 
This time, though, Apple may have outsmarted itself. Because while a handful of 
gadget-makers, like Google and Nintendo, have pushed boldly into the USB-C 
future, the rest of the world still runs on good ol' reliable USB-A.
If you want to plug in your existing mouse and 

Re: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Neither on my SE, or on my Dad’s 5S. Try rebotting the phone, when the 24-48 
hours of settling down after updating transpire. Good luck!luck

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 23 sep 2018, a la(s) 3:51 p. m., Sieghard Weitzel  
escribió:

> I haven't noticed anything regarding the 3-finger swipe down and double 
> tapping the time in order to move to the top of a website or other long list 
> seems to do the trick for me on my 6S Plus.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?
> 
> I'm able to get it to work by repeating the gesture twice quickly.
> 
> 
>> On 9/23/2018 3:35 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Does the VoiceOver gesture of 3-finger swipe down from top to bottom no
>> longer work?  In iOS 11, this gesture would cause the screen to refresh and
>> VoiceOver would announce this by saying something like, "refreshing app."
>> Now, try as I may, I cannot get this gesture to refresh anything on any app.
>> 
>> Also, single-finger double-tapping the status line, located at the top of
>> the display, no longer consistently scrolls the display back to the top.
>> Sometimes it does, and sometimes, it does not.
>> 
>> Since updating to iOS 12, I have noticed that there appears to be some kind
>> of screen refreshing problem when using certain app such as Over Drive.  For
>> example, in situations where additional data is supposed to be automatically
>> updated to match what is currently selected, nothing happens.  In order to
>> get the additional data, I now have to manually activate some kind of
>> control on the page in order to get the page to update/refresh with the
>> additional data.  In the case of Over Drive, recommended books based on the
>> current title in focus.
>> 
>> I have kind of noticed this behavior in certain aspects of the Twitter app
>> and also, I think, in one of my banking apps but I'm not certain as I have
>> only now begun paying attention to this issue.
>> 
>> Before I send a bug report to Apple, I want to confirm any or part of the
>> observations described above.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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RE: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If I bring up the emoji keyboard Voiceover reads me the emojis as always.
You might want to reboot yoru phone, close all apps in the app switcher, turn 
the phone off, wait 30 seconds or so then turn it back on and see if that fixed 
it.


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Treasures {Your One Stop Shop}
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Subject: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a new 
contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else noticed 
that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an emoji that 
voiceover will no longer read what it is? Mine just announces “Meme images” as 
I swipe through them.

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RE: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

No need to double tap on the phone number twice, once you are in the 
conversation 3 double taps are involved to get to the screen where the “Create 
New Contact” button is:

1. Double tap on the phone number
2. On the next screen double tap on Info
3. On the next screen double tap the phone number which now is announced as a 
button.

Now after step 3 if you do a 4-finger tap near the bottom of the screen you are 
taken to Block Caller which is the last item, flick left twice and you are on 
Create new contact.
All in all it is a 5-step process, open the message, double tap the number, 
double tap Info, double tap the number and then find the create new contact 
button either by swiping or using the method I described above.
Prior to iOS 12 this was one step less, after opening the message you had a 
details button at the top right and double tapping on it was essentially the 
same as tapping the info button now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

Hi,
You are right about the images.  Time to report a bug to Apple.

Adding a contact from a text message iOS 12

Open the text message.

Then double tap on the phone number.
Then, double tap on the phone number again.
Then flick right to the info button and double tap.
You have to then double tap again on the number before you find the create
contact option where it usually shows up.

HTH,
Richard



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Subject: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a new 
contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else noticed 
that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an emoji that 
voiceover will no longer read what it is? Mine just announces “Meme images” as 
I swipe through them.

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RE: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

[Maria Reyes]

If you don't get the cellular version you can't leave your iPhone behind for 
some of the things. 

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regina alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:04 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

Hi once again, since there is no dumb question except the one not asked I will 
ask. Can someone help this old lady understand why would anyone buy a series 4 
Apple watch with no cellular, just wifi? I can understand iPad or iPhone since 
you can use wifi at work or home and you can hook into wifi in some places. 
However, the watch does actually tell you the time, among every other thing it 
can do, right? So you wear it all day, but sometimes you go outside. Is there 
enough wifi around to keep the watch running or does it run off your phone's 
cellular or wifi? Curious. Going to buy a series 4 watch so which should I get? 
Thanks


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RE: About Phablet: was RE: My experience with iOS 12:

[Carolyn Arnold]

I made myself a pouch for the same reason. I will put my phone in a front 
ppocket. 

My sister and girlfriend have iPhones, wear jeans a lot, put phones in back 
pockets and sometimes do, what they call, "butt calling." They can be at a ball 
game or somewhere like that. My phone will ring. I'll answer and hear all this 
stuff going on, only my caller is not on the line. I can't figure out how they 
do that. I always keep my apps closed when I'm not using my phone and am 
somewhere like a ball game or at someone's house, but even though I can't 
figure how, they do it.

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: About Phablet: was RE: My experience with iOS 12:

I had not heard the term phablet before either.  There is an entry in Wikipedia 
that I've quoted here:
Phablet  - Wikipedia
The phablet (/ ˈ f æ b l ɪ t /) is a class of mobile devices combining or 
straddling the size format of smartphones and tablets.  The word itself is a 
portmanteau of the words phone and tablet.

I think the iPhone XS Max should certainly be referred to as a phablet since it 
really is too big to put in a pocket.  Frankly, putting any phone in a back 
pocket seems silly to me.
My wife made me a custom fit poutch with a lanyard so I can carry my phone over 
my shoulder and keep it within easy reach.
I've seen then in a variety of materials for sale, but this one only has about 
$3 in material.

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My experience with iOS 12:

Pablet - like that one. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael McKay
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My experience with iOS 12:

Hello! List members:

I have been hearing a lot of comments concerning the new iOS 12 for the iPhone. 
I understand a lot of people are having problems with the new update.

I upgraded my iPhone to an iPhone 7 Plus which is more like a tablet of a 
phone. I guess it’s called of the Phablet.

Anyway, I wanted folks on the list to know that I myself have downloaded and 
installed the iOS 12 update onto my new iPhone 7 Plus, and it works fine.

However, because it is a new device I have had to enter the password and reset 
up a lot of stuff and apps on my phone.

I did do a total reset of my iPhone screens the same as they were with my 
iPhone 6, so that was not the problem.

However, as I said earlier because it is a new device, and as a new device I 
need to register everything as it was on the old phone. So far, I have had no 
problems with the iOS 12 on my new phone.

Cheers!
Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com



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RE: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Of course that doesn't mean an issue can't exist given different hardware and 
sometimes just weird behaviour which happens on one device but not on another.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

I'm able to get it to work by repeating the gesture twice quickly.


On 9/23/2018 3:35 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Does the VoiceOver gesture of 3-finger swipe down from top to bottom no
> longer work?  In iOS 11, this gesture would cause the screen to refresh and
> VoiceOver would announce this by saying something like, "refreshing app."
> Now, try as I may, I cannot get this gesture to refresh anything on any app.
>
> Also, single-finger double-tapping the status line, located at the top of
> the display, no longer consistently scrolls the display back to the top.
> Sometimes it does, and sometimes, it does not.
>
> Since updating to iOS 12, I have noticed that there appears to be some kind
> of screen refreshing problem when using certain app such as Over Drive.  For
> example, in situations where additional data is supposed to be automatically
> updated to match what is currently selected, nothing happens.  In order to
> get the additional data, I now have to manually activate some kind of
> control on the page in order to get the page to update/refresh with the
> additional data.  In the case of Over Drive, recommended books based on the
> current title in focus.
>
> I have kind of noticed this behavior in certain aspects of the Twitter app
> and also, I think, in one of my banking apps but I'm not certain as I have
> only now begun paying attention to this issue.
>
> Before I send a bug report to Apple, I want to confirm any or part of the
> observations described above.
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
> Mark
>
>

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RE: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I haven't noticed anything regarding the 3-finger swipe down and double tapping 
the time in order to move to the top of a website or other long list seems to 
do the trick for me on my 6S Plus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

I'm able to get it to work by repeating the gesture twice quickly.


On 9/23/2018 3:35 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Does the VoiceOver gesture of 3-finger swipe down from top to bottom no
> longer work?  In iOS 11, this gesture would cause the screen to refresh and
> VoiceOver would announce this by saying something like, "refreshing app."
> Now, try as I may, I cannot get this gesture to refresh anything on any app.
>
> Also, single-finger double-tapping the status line, located at the top of
> the display, no longer consistently scrolls the display back to the top.
> Sometimes it does, and sometimes, it does not.
>
> Since updating to iOS 12, I have noticed that there appears to be some kind
> of screen refreshing problem when using certain app such as Over Drive.  For
> example, in situations where additional data is supposed to be automatically
> updated to match what is currently selected, nothing happens.  In order to
> get the additional data, I now have to manually activate some kind of
> control on the page in order to get the page to update/refresh with the
> additional data.  In the case of Over Drive, recommended books based on the
> current title in focus.
>
> I have kind of noticed this behavior in certain aspects of the Twitter app
> and also, I think, in one of my banking apps but I'm not certain as I have
> only now begun paying attention to this issue.
>
> Before I send a bug report to Apple, I want to confirm any or part of the
> observations described above.
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
> Mark
>
>

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RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This is an actual duffle bag I sell at my store, but of course I made up the 
little bit about the gun-toting modern american woman.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor


that is hysterical Sieghardt! Thanks for the laugh on a hot Sunday morning. 
Can't imagine where you found this but love it!
Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a 
broken heart." So God made a dog.


On Sep 23, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Robin,



Here is an item I sell at my store, it will be perfect to replace your old, too 
small purse:



Allen Haul'R Duffle Bag 65.5L

The HAUL’R Duffel Bag has a rugged Endura outer with a large zippered main 
compartment. The bag also features reinforced side carry handles. Perfect for 
throwing your gear in your truck, travel, and many other purposes, this duffel 
bag is dependable and durable.

It is also the perfect purse replacement for the modern american women who 
wants to bring her cuttingboard sized Phablet, carry a selection of pistols and 
other self-defense weapons as well as maxi-sized lipsticks, perfume bottles and 
7 pairs of shoes. The snazzy camoflauge pattern will satisfy the style of even 
the most discerning redneck… you’ll be sure to instantly attract the attention 
of any law enforcement agent anywhere.

Features:

• Dimensions: 13 in. x 15 in. x 30 in.

• NextCamo G2 camouflage

• Exterior zippered accessory pocket

• Padded, removable shoulder strap





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor



Hi,

Kelly it's funny you say this because when I got my first plus device I had

to buy a new purse because it wouldn't fit in what I had at the time.  They

just don't make purse pockets for the plus's even now finding a purse to

handle a folding cane and a plus size phone even the nerdy girls have issues

oy the challenges (laughing lots).

Robin





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From: Kelly Pierce

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor



Remember mark that the physical shape of the phones needs to fit into

the pants pocket of most men. If it can't fit into a back pants

pocket, the phone is a deal breaker for many. The edge to edge screen

and plus size form factor enables Apple to deliver huge screens for a

smart phone without massively blowing up the size so nerdy males won't

buy it.





the disappointment will be for sighted people and the 10 R at the end

of October. Its screen will look about the same as the iPhone 4,

introduced in 2010.



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On 9/22/18, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not

> intended

> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.

>

> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected,

> there were almost no customers.

>

> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic

> Apple representative.

>

> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really

> wanted

> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you

> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I

> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could

> wow

> me, enough.

>

> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern

> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its

> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I

> was

> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop

> grinning, every time I held it in my hand.

>

> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  

RE: Adding a contact from a text message [was "Re: Couple of IOS 12 Questions"]

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I posted it a few days ago and personally find it relatively straight forward, 
the only time something is not announced as a button is the phone number at the 
top right after you double tap on the conversation. I can see where somebody 
might be confused and not tryto double tap on it since it is not indicated as 
something you can tap on.
Compared to prior version this first step really is the only extra step, before 
the Details button was there at the top right and you had to tap on it, then 
tap on the phone number again once the detail screen opened and then find the 
Create New Contact button.
I guess Apple could maybe include “Create New Contact” or “Add to Existing 
Contact” as a rotor action? Not sure if that is possible, but for those who 
find the current method too diffficult they could maybe write to Apple 
Accessibility and suggest it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Adding a contact from a text message [was "Re: Couple of IOS 12 
Questions"]


To add someone who sent you a text message to your contact list:

1) Double tap on the conversation to expand it.

2) Double tap on the phone number at the top of the page.

3) Double tap on the Info button near the top of the page.

4) Double tap on the number at the top of the page.

5) Double tap on the create new contact button near the bottom of the list of 
options.



Thanks to someone who posted this earlier, but it still takes me some trial and 
error to finally get into the right list of options.



On 09/23/2018 07:44 AM, Blind Treasures {Your One Stop Shop} wrote:
Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a new 
contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else noticed 
that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an emoji that 
voiceover will no longer read what it is? Mine just announces “Meme images” as 
I swipe through them.

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Re: Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

[Gordon]

I'm able to get it to work by repeating the gesture twice quickly.


On 9/23/2018 3:35 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Does the VoiceOver gesture of 3-finger swipe down from top to bottom no
longer work?  In iOS 11, this gesture would cause the screen to refresh and
VoiceOver would announce this by saying something like, "refreshing app."
Now, try as I may, I cannot get this gesture to refresh anything on any app.

Also, single-finger double-tapping the status line, located at the top of
the display, no longer consistently scrolls the display back to the top.
Sometimes it does, and sometimes, it does not.

Since updating to iOS 12, I have noticed that there appears to be some kind
of screen refreshing problem when using certain app such as Over Drive.  For
example, in situations where additional data is supposed to be automatically
updated to match what is currently selected, nothing happens.  In order to
get the additional data, I now have to manually activate some kind of
control on the page in order to get the page to update/refresh with the
additional data.  In the case of Over Drive, recommended books based on the
current title in focus.

I have kind of noticed this behavior in certain aspects of the Twitter app
and also, I think, in one of my banking apps but I'm not certain as I have
only now begun paying attention to this issue.

Before I send a bug report to Apple, I want to confirm any or part of the
observations described above.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark




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RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business Insider

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My guess is that is is less an oversight than a business decision and that 
Apple knows by not including a USB-C to Lightning cable they can make another 
few Million in profits since people will of course buy them.
It also means accessory manufacturers who also make such cables and adapters 
are also happy.


-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business 
Insider

Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare 
misfire By Matt Weinberger
 
Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display ports, 
and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple AAPL Apple
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.   Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for
charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports.
.   USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as
USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any and 
all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat!
.   But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if
you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or other 
gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating!
.   Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously
when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You can't 
connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out for a new 
cable or adapter.
.   It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing
the details.
A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro to 
replace my fast-aging MacBook Air. 
To catch you up, Apple gave its premium, top-shelf MacBook Pro lineup a 
controversial new design starting in 2016. Its keyboard was flimsy and prone to 
breaking (hasn't happened to me yet, and largely fixed by a new model in 2018); 
some versions sported a strange Touch Bar above the keyboard (mine doesn't have 
one); and, worst of all, it replaced the traditional USB ports with the new, 
cutting-edge USB-C (the bane of my existence). 
Yes, it's the last one that really gets under my skin. Starting with the
2016 MacBook Pro, Apple took out the charging port, the mini-HDMI port, and 
indeed everything but a headphone jack, and replaced it with nothing more than 
two USB-C ports. It could be worse, though: The regular MacBook only gets a 
single USB-C port. 
It's easy to see where Apple was going with this move. USB-C offers many 
benefits over regular USB (which, by the way, is officially called USB-A) - it 
means that the same cable can be used for charging, for plugging in a monitor, 
or attaching any number of other accessories. And it sidesteps the most 
annoying thing about USB: The connector plugs in no matter which side is facing 
up. It's elegant in a way that feels very Apple-y, for lack of a better term. 
It also means that any USB-C charger can work with any USB-C gadget. When I'm 
traveling, I don't need to pack a separate charger for my Nintendo Switch - my 
MacBook Pro charger will power it up just fine. (I mean, I pack a separate 
Switch charger anyway, but that's because I'm neurotic, not because I have to.) 
If you have a phone or tablet that charges via USB-C, like a Google Pixel 2 or 
Microsoft Surface Go, you'd be able to charge it from there, too. 
This is the gear you would neat to give your iPhone the fastest possible 
charge. The cable on the right connects USB-C to Lightning - the kind of cable 
you'd need to connect an iPhone to the newest MacBook Pro line. Apple It's not 
unusual for Apple to get out ahead of the curve on new standards like this. The 
original iMac caught a ton of flack in the '90s for not including a floppy disk 
drive, but that turned out to be the right move, as the rise of the internet, 
re-writable CDs, and USB flash drives combined to make them quickly obsolete. 
This time, though, Apple may have outsmarted itself. Because while a handful of 
gadget-makers, like Google and Nintendo, have pushed boldly into the USB-C 
future, the rest of the world still runs on good ol' reliable USB-A.
If you want to plug in your existing mouse and keyboard into the MacBook Pro, 
you still need some kind of adapter, hub, or dongle. It's what gadget-heads 
have dubbed "dongle hell," as plugging in everyday accessories becomes a 
headache. 
Indeed, the largest sign that USB-C just isn't quite ready for prime-time comes 
from Apple itself. 
Apple's newest phones, the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max, do not include a USB-C 
cable, or a fast-charging power adapter with which to use one. That means if 
you buy Apple's most expensive new iPhone, which starts at $1,000, you can't 
use it with Apple's most expensive MacBook 

Is There An iOS 12 VoiceOver Screen Refreshing Problem?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Does the VoiceOver gesture of 3-finger swipe down from top to bottom no
longer work?  In iOS 11, this gesture would cause the screen to refresh and
VoiceOver would announce this by saying something like, "refreshing app."
Now, try as I may, I cannot get this gesture to refresh anything on any app.

Also, single-finger double-tapping the status line, located at the top of
the display, no longer consistently scrolls the display back to the top.
Sometimes it does, and sometimes, it does not.  

Since updating to iOS 12, I have noticed that there appears to be some kind
of screen refreshing problem when using certain app such as Over Drive.  For
example, in situations where additional data is supposed to be automatically
updated to match what is currently selected, nothing happens.  In order to
get the additional data, I now have to manually activate some kind of
control on the page in order to get the page to update/refresh with the
additional data.  In the case of Over Drive, recommended books based on the
current title in focus.

I have kind of noticed this behavior in certain aspects of the Twitter app
and also, I think, in one of my banking apps but I'm not certain as I have
only now begun paying attention to this issue.

Before I send a bug report to Apple, I want to confirm any or part of the
observations described above.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Donna]

I’m not sure what you mean by “hash images”? I have used the emoji keyboard: 
settings, general, keyboard. And I’ve used the Imoji stickers. Both are 
announced by voiceover as the emoji & Imoji sticker depicts. If If the original 
question was in reference to Facebook messenger or another messaging app 
besides Apple Message app, I apologize for incorrect info. 

Donna
> 
> Donna,
> Have you tried adding images in a text message?
> Are you using the hash images from the messaging apps?
>  
> On my phone, those all say the same thing.
>  
> The emoji keyboard still speaks the image descriptions.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
>  
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Couple of IOS 12 Questions
>  
>  
>  
> Hi
>  
> I can’t answer your 1st question, because I’ve never received a phone number 
> in a text message. I am having no trouble with voiceover not announcing the 
> names of emojis. 
>  
> Donna  
> 
> Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
> Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a 
> new contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else 
> noticed that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an emoji 
> that voiceover will no longer read what it is? Mine just announces “Meme 
> images” as I swipe through them.
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RE: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Anything to do with notification grouping refers to iOS 12 since it is the 
first iOS version where notification grouping is available.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS12 & locked Screen

Based on the subject line, are we still talking exclusively about IOS12?

Cher


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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

Yes you can: go into Settings/Notificacions, and go into the app in which you’d 
like to turn Grouping off; at the very bottom you’ll see an option for this. 
Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 20 sep 2018, a la(s) 7:12 a. m., Kimber Gardner  
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> I really wish there was a way to turn off the grouping. I dislike that
> feature and prefer to see all of my notifications at once.
> 
>> On 9/19/18, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a
>> time on my locked screen in IOS 12?
>> 
>> Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't
>> disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a
>> time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and
>> another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.
>> 
>> They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep
>> having to check there to see if I have missed something.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Accessible blood pressure monitor

[Arlene]

About 4 years ago I purchased a blood measure machine from walgreens, and 
about the same time I purchased the machine from independent living aids. 
Both machines are good. The one from walgreens was about $89 and I can't 
remember how much the one from independent living aids was. I don't know now 
about the ones that work with apps.


Arlene
- Original Message - 
From: "Tony" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible blood pressure monitor


I bought a speaking unit from WalMart a few years ago for about $50.  The 
speech is pretty clear and loud enough.  I haven't checked it with my 
doctor's office but it seems accurate and reliable.


It is almost as good as the $200 unit it replaced and is easier to use and 
understand than some of the mail order units.


And you can take it back if you are not satisfied.

Tony


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Subject: Accessible blood pressure monitor

Hello:

Does anyone have any recommendations for a blood pressure monitor  that is 
accessible either through the  iPhone or that speaks? One that does both is 
preferable. I am looking for one that fits the upper arm, not the wrist. Any 
help would be appreciated. Thanks.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Cher Bosch]

Based on the subject line, are we still talking exclusively about IOS12?

Cher


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Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

Yes you can: go into Settings/Notificacions, and go into the app in which you’d 
like to turn Grouping off; at the very bottom you’ll see an option for this. 
Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 20 sep 2018, a la(s) 7:12 a. m., Kimber Gardner  
escribió:

> I really wish there was a way to turn off the grouping. I dislike that
> feature and prefer to see all of my notifications at once.
> 
>> On 9/19/18, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a
>> time on my locked screen in IOS 12?
>> 
>> Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't
>> disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a
>> time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and
>> another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.
>> 
>> They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep
>> having to check there to see if I have missed something.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business Insider

[M. Taylor]

Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare
misfire
By Matt Weinberger
 
Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display
ports, and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple 
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.   Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for
charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports.
.   USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as
USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any
and all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat!
.   But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if
you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or
other gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating!
.   Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously
when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You
can't connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out
for a new cable or adapter.
.   It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing
the details.
A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro
to replace my fast-aging MacBook Air. 
To catch you up, Apple gave its premium, top-shelf MacBook Pro lineup a
controversial new design starting in 2016. Its keyboard was flimsy and prone
to breaking (hasn't happened to me yet, and largely fixed by a new model in
2018); some versions sported a strange Touch Bar above the keyboard (mine
doesn't have one); and, worst of all, it replaced the traditional USB ports
with the new, cutting-edge USB-C (the bane of my existence). 
Yes, it's the last one that really gets under my skin. Starting with the
2016 MacBook Pro, Apple took out the charging port, the mini-HDMI port, and
indeed everything but a headphone jack, and replaced it with nothing more
than two USB-C ports. It could be worse, though: The regular MacBook only
gets a single USB-C port. 
It's easy to see where Apple was going with this move. USB-C offers many
benefits over regular USB (which, by the way, is officially called USB-A) -
it means that the same cable can be used for charging, for plugging in a
monitor, or attaching any number of other accessories. And it sidesteps the
most annoying thing about USB: The connector plugs in no matter which side
is facing up. It's elegant in a way that feels very Apple-y, for lack of a
better term. 
It also means that any USB-C charger can work with any USB-C gadget. When
I'm traveling, I don't need to pack a separate charger for my Nintendo
Switch - my MacBook Pro charger will power it up just fine. (I mean, I pack
a separate Switch charger anyway, but that's because I'm neurotic, not
because I have to.) If you have a phone or tablet that charges via USB-C,
like a Google Pixel 2 or Microsoft Surface Go, you'd be able to charge it
from there, too. 
This is the gear you would neat to give your iPhone the fastest possible
charge. The cable on the right connects USB-C to Lightning - the kind of
cable you'd need to connect an iPhone to the newest MacBook Pro line. Apple 
It's not unusual for Apple to get out ahead of the curve on new standards
like this. The original iMac caught a ton of flack in the '90s for not
including a floppy disk drive, but that turned out to be the right move, as
the rise of the internet, re-writable CDs, and USB flash drives combined to
make them quickly obsolete. 
This time, though, Apple may have outsmarted itself. Because while a handful
of gadget-makers, like Google and Nintendo, have pushed boldly into the
USB-C future, the rest of the world still runs on good ol' reliable USB-A.
If you want to plug in your existing mouse and keyboard into the MacBook
Pro, you still need some kind of adapter, hub, or dongle. It's what
gadget-heads have dubbed "dongle hell," as plugging in everyday accessories
becomes a headache. 
Indeed, the largest sign that USB-C just isn't quite ready for prime-time
comes from Apple itself. 
Apple's newest phones, the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max, do not include a
USB-C cable, or a fast-charging power adapter with which to use one. That
means if you buy Apple's most expensive new iPhone, which starts at $1,000,
you can't use it with Apple's most expensive MacBook Pro without buying a
new cable, or at least, an annoying dongle. All told, an Apple-branded USB-C
cable, and a fast-charging wall plug to go with it, will run you another
$70. 
It's not the end of the world; I have to imagine that most iPhone owners
charge from the wall anyway, or at least own a computer that still has an
original-recipe USB port. 
Still, it's a surprising oversight from Apple, which loves to boast about
how well the iPhone and Mac work together. Software like iMessage and Photos
works seamlessly across phone and computer, but a single cable, not in the
box, makes it 

Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The Meditation Basics course is free, and if you get the book Meditation for 
fidgety Skeptics from Audible, you get a code which makes its content free. 
There are also free samples from a lot of the meditation courses. There may be 
more, but that's what I know about.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> 
> The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long after the 
> app was discussed here on this list and have been working my way through the 
> meditation basics ever since.
> 
> One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available in the 
> app are also available on YouTube. 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty  > wrote:
> 
>> Anna,
>> 
>> Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% 
>> Happier app.
>> 
>> I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded that 
>> subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, not weekly 
>> or monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly $100 purchase 
>> before using the app for quite some time.
>> 
>> Is there enough standard content available without additional content 
>> purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If later 
>> on I do purchase the additional content subscription, is that  content 
>> VoiceOver accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription content is 
>> not accessible.)
>> 
>> My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard 
>> content available. But, it's early in my exploration.
>> 
>> Thanks so much.
>> 
>> Richard Petty
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 10% 
>> Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of accessibility 
>> issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know whether everything is 
>> accessible, but it's definitely much easier to see what courses are 
>> available, choose one, and choose a particular meditation. I'm thrilled that 
>> the developers are taking accessibility seriously.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
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Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Mark, also remember that although the 8Plus is the same size as the max, on the 
max there is screen where the home button and top speaker is on the max, thus 
giving the max more screen.  I felt both of them, and I think the max is much 
better design.  JMO

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended
> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.
> 
> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected,
> there were almost no customers.  
> 
> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic
> Apple representative.  
> 
> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted
> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you
> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I
> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow
> me, enough.
> 
> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern
> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its
> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was
> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop
> grinning, every time I held it in my hand.
> 
> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It felt,
> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet
> computer.  
> 
> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my
> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)  
> 
> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android
> enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega.
> 
> 
> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on
> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on
> the 10 S Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it or not, the actual
> body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus.  
> 
> I was so disappointed.  I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales
> rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention.  
> 
> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10
> S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger,
> much larger than my beloved 8 Plus.  In fact, I suppose, I was counting on
> it.  
> 
> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better
> the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!.  
> 
> All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from
> my beloved 8 Plus.  
> 
> As for the Apple watch?  Same scenario.  If there is any major size
> difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new
> watch.  
> 
> Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays
> without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a
> let-down.  I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least,
> it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse,
> set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Need help setting up the qardio blood pressure app

[Kimberly]

Thanks for the support numberIn fact I was z eventually able to get through the 
registration process with sighted hell. It seems there is a button to indicate 
that you have read the terms of service and privacy policy, but VoiceOver 
doesn't communicate the state of this button at all or even that it is a button 
which is where I had my issue. Once I was able to click that button all was 
well and I was able to register. 

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> On Sep 22, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kim,
> Here is the support number for Qardio Arm.
> Qardio Arm support855 240 7323  (8a-4p PT M-F)
> Mr. Ed
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:49 AM
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> Subject: Need help setting up the qardio blood pressure app
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Hoping someone can help. I recently bought the Qardio Arm blood
> pressure cuff and although the app looks accessible, I am unable to
> create an account. I enter text on the required fields: name, email
> and password, but the register button remains greyed out. There are
> two buttons that allow you to read the terms of service and privacy
> stuff but there doesn't appear to be any checkbox or accept button. I
> have re-entered the information several times but the register button
> remains inaccessible.
> 
> I listened to a podcast that demonstrates the cuff and setup, and the
> guy did say he had some trouble registering, but he never said how he
> got around it.
> 
> I'm hoping someone with experience with this app can help me.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kim
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Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

[Kimberly]

The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long after the 
app was discussed here on this list and have been working my way through the 
meditation basics ever since.

One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available in the 
app are also available on YouTube. 

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> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty  
> wrote:
> 
> Anna,
> 
> Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% 
> Happier app.
> 
> I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded that 
> subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, not weekly or 
> monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly $100 purchase before 
> using the app for quite some time.
> 
> Is there enough standard content available without additional content 
> purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If later 
> on I do purchase the additional content subscription, is that  content 
> VoiceOver accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription content is 
> not accessible.)
> 
> My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard content 
> available. But, it's early in my exploration.
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Richard Petty
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
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> Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before
> 
> Hello,
> 
> A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 10% 
> Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of accessibility 
> issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know whether everything is 
> accessible, but it's definitely much easier to see what courses are 
> available, choose one, and choose a particular meditation. I'm thrilled that 
> the developers are taking accessibility seriously.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
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About Phablet: was RE: My experience with iOS 12:

[Richard Turner]

I had not heard the term phablet before either.  There is an entry in Wikipedia 
that I've quoted here:
Phablet  - Wikipedia
The phablet (/ ˈ f æ b l ɪ t /) is a class of mobile devices combining or 
straddling the size format of smartphones and tablets.  The word itself is a 
portmanteau of the words phone and tablet.

I think the iPhone XS Max should certainly be referred to as a phablet since it 
really is too big to put in a pocket.  Frankly, putting any phone in a back 
pocket seems silly to me.
My wife made me a custom fit poutch with a lanyard so I can carry my phone over 
my shoulder and keep it within easy reach.
I've seen then in a variety of materials for sale, but this one only has about 
$3 in material.

Richard

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Subject: RE: My experience with iOS 12:

Pablet - like that one. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: My experience with iOS 12:

Hello! List members:

I have been hearing a lot of comments concerning the new iOS 12 for the iPhone. 
I understand a lot of people are having problems with the new update.

I upgraded my iPhone to an iPhone 7 Plus which is more like a tablet of a 
phone. I guess it’s called of the Phablet.

Anyway, I wanted folks on the list to know that I myself have downloaded and 
installed the iOS 12 update onto my new iPhone 7 Plus, and it works fine.

However, because it is a new device I have had to enter the password and reset 
up a lot of stuff and apps on my phone.

I did do a total reset of my iPhone screens the same as they were with my 
iPhone 6, so that was not the problem.

However, as I said earlier because it is a new device, and as a new device I 
need to register everything as it was on the old phone. So far, I have had no 
problems with the iOS 12 on my new phone.

Cheers!
Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com



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RE: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[Carolyn Arnold]

That tracking is a battery sucker - I got rid of that. 

Best regards,

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Subject: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is dropping 
and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status bar. Under settings, 
(privacy) I turned location services off. Region tracking no longer appears in 
the status bar. However, my battery is still dropping. (1) should region 
tracking appear in the status bar? (2) are there other features that should be 
disabled in IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery power? 

Thank you. 

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RE: My experience with iOS 12:

[Carolyn Arnold]

Pablet - like that one. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Hello! List members:

I have been hearing a lot of comments concerning the new iOS 12 for the iPhone. 
I understand a lot of people are having problems with the new update.

I upgraded my iPhone to an iPhone 7 Plus which is more like a tablet of a 
phone. I guess it’s called of the Phablet.

Anyway, I wanted folks on the list to know that I myself have downloaded and 
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However, because it is a new device I have had to enter the password and reset 
up a lot of stuff and apps on my phone.

I did do a total reset of my iPhone screens the same as they were with my 
iPhone 6, so that was not the problem.

However, as I said earlier because it is a new device, and as a new device I 
need to register everything as it was on the old phone. So far, I have had no 
problems with the iOS 12 on my new phone.

Cheers!
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RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[Carolyn Arnold]

I'm glad. I don't want a big phone device. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

Hello Everyone,

Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended to 
persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.

Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, there 
were almost no customers.  

The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic 
Apple representative.  

Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted to 
be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you may 
recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I discovered 
that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow me, enough.

Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern 
phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its 
physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was a 
little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop grinning, 
every time I held it in my hand.

It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It felt, 
just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet 
computer.  

Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my 
friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)  

I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android 
enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega.


So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on some 
subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on the 10 S 
Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it or not, the actual body, or 
form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus.  

I was so disappointed.  I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales 
rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention.  

Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 S 
Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, much 
larger than my beloved 8 Plus.  In fact, I suppose, I was counting on it.  

The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better the 
display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!.  

All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from my 
beloved 8 Plus.  

As for the Apple watch?  Same scenario.  If there is any major size difference, 
I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new watch.  

Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays without 
increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a let-down.  
I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least, it's the 
marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse, set a 
form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return.

Mark


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RE: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Richard Turner]

Donna,
Have you tried adding images in a text message?
Are you using the hash images from the messaging apps?

On my phone, those all say the same thing.

The emoji keyboard still speaks the image descriptions.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
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Subject: Re: Couple of IOS 12 Questions



Hi

I can’t answer your 1st question, because I’ve never received a phone number in 
a text message. I am having no trouble with voiceover not announcing the names 
of emojis.

Donna

Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a new 
contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else noticed 
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Re: My experience with iOS 12:

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

I have noticed a speed increase on my I pad minni second generation
adrian Leong
adrianleon...@icloud.com



> On Sep 22, 2018, at 8:45 PM, Michael McKay  wrote:
> 
> Hello! List members:
> 
> I have been hearing a lot of comments concerning the new iOS 12 for the 
> iPhone. I understand a lot of people are having problems with the new update.
> 
> I upgraded my iPhone to an iPhone 7 Plus which is more like a tablet of a 
> phone. I guess it’s called of the Phablet.
> 
> Anyway, I wanted folks on the list to know that I myself have downloaded and 
> installed the iOS 12 update onto my new iPhone 7 Plus, and it works fine.
> 
> However, because it is a new device I have had to enter the password and 
> reset up a lot of stuff and apps on my phone.
> 
> I did do a total reset of my iPhone screens the same as they were with my 
> iPhone 6, so that was not the problem.
> 
> However, as I said earlier because it is a new device, and as a new device I 
> need to register everything as it was on the old phone. So far, I have had no 
> problems with the iOS 12 on my new phone.
> 
> Cheers!
> Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
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Re: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Donna]

> 
> Hi

I can’t answer your 1st question, because I’ve never received a phone number in 
a text message. I am having no trouble with voiceover not announcing the names 
of emojis. 

Donna  
> Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
> Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a 
> new contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else 
> noticed that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an emoji 
> that voiceover will no longer read what it is? Mine just announces “Meme 
> images” as I swipe through them.
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RE: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
You are right about the images.  Time to report a bug to Apple.

Adding a contact from a text message iOS 12

Open the text message.

Then double tap on the phone number.
Then, double tap on the phone number again.
Then flick right to the info button and double tap.
You have to then double tap again on the number before you find the create
contact option where it usually shows up.

HTH,
Richard



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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:44 AM
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Subject: Couple of IOS 12 Questions

Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!
Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a new 
contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else noticed 
that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an emoji that 
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Adding a contact from a text message [was "Re: Couple of IOS 12 Questions"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

To add someone who sent you a text message to your contact list:

1) Double tap on the conversation to expand it.

2) Double tap on the phone number at the top of the page.

3) Double tap on the Info button near the top of the page.

4) Double tap on the number at the top of the page.

5) Double tap on the create new contact button near the bottom of the 
list of options.



Thanks to someone who posted this earlier, but it still takes me some 
trial and error to finally get into the right list of options.




On 09/23/2018 07:44 AM, Blind Treasures {Your One Stop Shop} wrote:


Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on!

Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message 
to a new contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has 
anyone else noticed that now when creating a new text message and 
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Mine just announces “Meme images” as I swipe through them.


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RE: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Price. Wifi is cheaper.
Most people have their phones on them.
Now having said that, I want the cell version. As a woman, i like the saftey 
aspect.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:04 PM
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Subject: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

Hi once again, since there is no dumb question except the one not asked I will 
ask. Can someone help this old lady understand why would anyone buy a series 4 
Apple watch with no cellular, just wifi? I can understand iPad or iPhone since 
you can use wifi at work or home and you can hook into wifi in some places. 
However, the watch does actually tell you the time, among every other thing it 
can do, right? So you wear it all day, but sometimes you go outside. Is there 
enough wifi around to keep the watch running or does it run off your phone's 
cellular or wifi? Curious. Going to buy a series 4 watch so which should I get? 
Thanks


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Re: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't have an Apple Watch, but I'd assume there are still quite a few 
things it can do without a network connection, such as tell the time, 
notify you of upcoming calendar events, keep track of your step count, 
log your workout activity, give you turn by turn directions and so on. 
Like I said, I don't have an Apple Watch, but isn't this the case?



On 09/22/2018 11:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

For things like the time the watch doesn't need any connection.
I guess people who don't want to spend the extra $100 and who generally have 
their iPhone along the cellular option is not important, you also have to 
remember that if you want your watch on cellular you typically will be charged 
an extra $10 a month by your carrier so in addition to extra cost to buy it, 
you pay an extra $120 a year for the convenience of having a cellular 
connection directly to your watch.
Some MVNO's may not even support cellular for an Apple Watch since it is using 
the e-SIM technology and then again even a cellular Apple Watch is not 
completely a stand-alone device and a connection to the iPhone is need to set 
up the watch and for maybe a few other things.




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alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 8:04 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

Hi once again, since there is no dumb question except the one not asked I will 
ask. Can someone help this old lady understand why would anyone buy a series 4 
Apple watch with no cellular, just wifi? I can understand iPad or iPhone since 
you can use wifi at work or home and you can hook into wifi in some places. 
However, the watch does actually tell you the time, among every other thing it 
can do, right? So you wear it all day, but sometimes you go outside. Is there 
enough wifi around to keep the watch running or does it run off your phone's 
cellular or wifi? Curious. Going to buy a series 4 watch so which should I get? 
Thanks


Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet gentle 
enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all day on a couch with 
a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a broken heart." So God 
made a dog.



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RE: Pandora

[Richard Turner]

You have to play the station you want, stop it, go into Siri settings and you 
will find a suggested shortcut for that station.
Then, you can record a phrase like play Joni Mitchell radio and from then on, 
you can have Siri play your chosen station.

Richard



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pandora

I have an iPhone 7 with the current IOS.  I have updated all of my apps for IOS 
12.  I know with 12 you can ask Pandora to play using SIRI, I can do this.  My 
question is how do you have Pandora play a certain station.  

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Pandora

[Steve & Shannon Cook]

I have an iPhone 7 with the current IOS.  I have updated all of my apps for IOS 
12.  I know with 12 you can ask Pandora to play using SIRI, I can do this.  My 
question is how do you have Pandora play a certain station.  

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Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[regina alvarado]

that is hysterical Sieghardt! Thanks for the laugh on a hot Sunday morning. 
Can't imagine where you found this but love it!

Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a 
broken heart." So God made a dog.


On Sep 23, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Robin,
 
Here is an item I sell at my store, it will be perfect to replace your old, too 
small purse:
 
Allen Haul'R Duffle Bag 65.5L
The HAUL’R Duffel Bag has a rugged Endura outer with a large zippered main 
compartment. The bag also features reinforced side carry handles. Perfect for 
throwing your gear in your truck, travel, and many other purposes, this duffel 
bag is dependable and durable.

It is also the perfect purse replacement for the modern american women who 
wants to bring her cuttingboard sized Phablet, carry a selection of pistols and 
other self-defense weapons as well as maxi-sized lipsticks, perfume bottles and 
7 pairs of shoes. The snazzy camoflauge pattern will satisfy the style of even 
the most discerning redneck… you’ll be sure to instantly attract the attention 
of any law enforcement agent anywhere.

Features:
• Dimensions: 13 in. x 15 in. x 30 in.

• NextCamo G2 camouflage

• Exterior zippered accessory pocket

• Padded, removable shoulder strap

 

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
 
Hi,
Kelly it's funny you say this because when I got my first plus device I had
to buy a new purse because it wouldn't fit in what I had at the time.  They
just don't make purse pockets for the plus's even now finding a purse to
handle a folding cane and a plus size phone even the nerdy girls have issues
oy the challenges (laughing lots).
Robin
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
 
Remember mark that the physical shape of the phones needs to fit into
the pants pocket of most men. If it can't fit into a back pants
pocket, the phone is a deal breaker for many. The edge to edge screen
and plus size form factor enables Apple to deliver huge screens for a
smart phone without massively blowing up the size so nerdy males won't
buy it.
 
 
the disappointment will be for sighted people and the 10 R at the end
of October. Its screen will look about the same as the iPhone 4,
introduced in 2010.
 
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On 9/22/18, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not
> intended
> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.
> 
> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected,
> there were almost no customers.
> 
> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic
> Apple representative.
> 
> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really
> wanted
> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you
> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I
> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could
> wow
> me, enough.
> 
> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern
> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its
> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I
> was
> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop
> grinning, every time I held it in my hand.
> 
> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It
> felt,
> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a
> tablet
> computer.
> 
> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my
> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)
> 
> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like
> Android
> enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped making the
> Mega.
> 
> 
> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on
> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on
> the 10 S Max.  It didn't 

Re: Problem With Whatsapp and iPhone 8

[Lynn White]

Mario,

You are right about this being a problem with this update.  Steve’s observation 
is right about it being like a slap back echo.  I do wonder if the common 
thread is locking the record button.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 3:54 AM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Steve.
> Yes, it is true, it is a issue that is only real in this WhatsApp update...
> all People who have upgraded to this version all have this issue.
> I mean, blind people, personal friends, and friends in discussion groups
> Now we just need to know if it is an app issue, or accessibility issue 
> related to VO...
> cheers.
> 
> 
> Às 08:33 de 23/09/2018, Steve Matzura escreveu:
>> Haven't had garbling, but sometimes folks get messages that are slow and 
>> have slapback echo. Sounds real funny when it happens.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/22/2018 5:36 PM, Lynn White wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhoneHas anyone else had an issue where you record a message 
>>> in Whatsapp and having the message cut short to about 30 seconds and the 
>>> audio being garbled?
>>> 
>>> I have run into several friends of mine who have also run into this.  Is 
>>> there someone at Whatsapp that can be contacted? Thanks.
>>> 
>> 
> 
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RE: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

[Richard Petty]

Anna,

Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% Happier 
app.

I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded that 
subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, not weekly or 
monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly $100 purchase before 
using the app for quite some time.

Is there enough standard content available without additional content purchase 
that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If later on I do 
purchase the additional content subscription, is that  content VoiceOver 
accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription content is not 
accessible.)

My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard content 
available. But, it's early in my exploration.

Thanks so much.

Richard Petty

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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
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Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

Hello,

A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 10% 
Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of accessibility 
issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know whether everything is 
accessible, but it's definitely much easier to see what courses are available, 
choose one, and choose a particular meditation. I'm thrilled that the 
developers are taking accessibility seriously.

Best,
Anna

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Re: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[Gordon]

When did you update to IOS 12? One thing I can tell you is that when you 
first get it you will see battery drain for a few days as the operating 
system acclimates itself to you and your phone. From what I've read 
there are several things going on in the background as the new software 
settles in. Indexing files and things like that. You'll find a few new 
cool features under battery that will show you a good deal of 
information about what apps are using battery and what hours your phone 
consumed the most battery. If you have it set to show you the past 24 
hours, you'll see hour by hour usage.



On 9/23/2018 6:58 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:


Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is 
dropping and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status 
bar. Under settings, (privacy) I turned location services off. Region 
tracking no longer appears in the status bar. However, my battery is 
still dropping. (1) should region tracking appear in the status bar? 
(2) are there other features that should be disabled in IOS 8 to avoid 
the droppage in battery power?


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RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Robin,



Here is an item I sell at my store, it will be perfect to replace your old, too 
small purse:



Allen Haul'R Duffle Bag 65.5L

The HAUL’R Duffel Bag has a rugged Endura outer with a large zippered main 
compartment. The bag also features reinforced side carry handles. Perfect for 
throwing your gear in your truck, travel, and many other purposes, this duffel 
bag is dependable and durable.

It is also the perfect purse replacement for the modern american women who 
wants to bring her cuttingboard sized Phablet, carry a selection of pistols and 
other self-defense weapons as well as maxi-sized lipsticks, perfume bottles and 
7 pairs of shoes. The snazzy camoflauge pattern will satisfy the style of even 
the most discerning redneck… you’ll be sure to instantly attract the attention 
of any law enforcement agent anywhere.

Features:

• Dimensions: 13 in. x 15 in. x 30 in.

• NextCamo G2 camouflage

• Exterior zippered accessory pocket

• Padded, removable shoulder strap





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor



Hi,

Kelly it's funny you say this because when I got my first plus device I had

to buy a new purse because it wouldn't fit in what I had at the time.  They

just don't make purse pockets for the plus's even now finding a purse to

handle a folding cane and a plus size phone even the nerdy girls have issues

oy the challenges (laughing lots).

Robin





-Original Message-

From: Kelly Pierce

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor



Remember mark that the physical shape of the phones needs to fit into

the pants pocket of most men. If it can't fit into a back pants

pocket, the phone is a deal breaker for many. The edge to edge screen

and plus size form factor enables Apple to deliver huge screens for a

smart phone without massively blowing up the size so nerdy males won't

buy it.





the disappointment will be for sighted people and the 10 R at the end

of October. Its screen will look about the same as the iPhone 4,

introduced in 2010.



Kelly























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On 9/22/18, M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not

> intended

> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.

>

> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected,

> there were almost no customers.

>

> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic

> Apple representative.

>

> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really

> wanted

> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you

> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I

> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could

> wow

> me, enough.

>

> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern

> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its

> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I

> was

> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop

> grinning, every time I held it in my hand.

>

> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It

> felt,

> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a

> tablet

> computer.

>

> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my

> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)

>

> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like

> Android

> enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped making the

> Mega.

>

>

> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on

> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on

> the 10 S Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it or not, the actual

> body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus.

>

> I was so disappointed.  I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple

> sales

> rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention.

>

> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the

> 10

> S Max but, somehow, some 

Re: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

[lenron brown]

I went with the cellular version, because I love the idea of not
needing to have my phone along. It's one of the major things that
excited me about the watch, but if you know for sure you plan on
keeping your phone with you at all times, and you are buying the watch
out right anyways save a few dollars and go with the gps model.

On 9/23/18, pdlloga...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I would look at it this way, if you want to have the ability to leave your
> phone at home .. and still be able to make calls .. take texts .. listen to
> things like Apple music ..then definitely go with the cellular version.
> Remember however you will have to pay for service on the watch in addition
> to the phone ..  I bought the cellular version .. used it initially .. then
> decided that it wasn't worth paying about $17 after taxes to have the
> ability ...  I rarely go anywhere where I don't have my phone...  On the
> plus side, it was nice to be able to if I was going for a walk or whatever
> to be able to leave the phone at home...
>
> It comes down to what you want to be able to do.  Hope that helps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:04 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question
>
> Hi once again, since there is no dumb question except the one not asked I
> will ask. Can someone help this old lady understand why would anyone buy a
> series 4 Apple watch with no cellular, just wifi? I can understand iPad or
> iPhone since you can use wifi at work or home and you can hook into wifi in
> some places. However, the watch does actually tell you the time, among every
> other thing it can do, right? So you wear it all day, but sometimes you go
> outside. Is there enough wifi around to keep the watch running or does it
> run off your phone's cellular or wifi? Curious. Going to buy a series 4
> watch so which should I get? Thanks
>
>
> Reggie and Lex
> God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet
> gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all
> day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits
> of a broken heart." So God made a dog.
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RE: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

region tracking appear in the status bar?, in other words, should I keep it on?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 08:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

 

As far as region tracking I would try to go through all the apps in location 
services including the system settings area at the very bottom to find out 
which app is using it, could very well be that previously turned off apps got 
turned on during the update.

Do you have any sort of home automation devices such as a connected thermostat, 
Ring video doorbell, smart lock, lights etc? Often they use geofencing to track 
whether you are home or not.

Another area as I said is the system area where you have things like time zone, 
location based reminders etc.

 

Lastly, when did you update? Did you close all apps before updating and do a 
reboot of the phone?

These are not things Apple may officially recommend, but I find it’s good 
practice and it can avoid issues, even better is to do a Reset Network Settings 
after you close all apps in the app switcher and before you do a major update. 

 

Another consideration is this: somebody had posted an article where the author 
said that often after an update the iPhone may drain more rapidly for a few 
days because iOS is doing a lot of reindexing of files and so on.

 

If you updated recently have you done an additional reboot after your phone 
came back up after the update, i.e. turn it off completely for a minute or so, 
then turn it back on?

If you have or if that doesn’t help I suggest you try to go to Settings > 
General > Reset and do a Reset Network Settings now, it can still do a lot of 
good.

Make sure you quit all apps in the app switcher first and remember that you 
need your WiFi password since you have to reconnect to your WiFi after a Reset 
Network Settings. Also, if you had called your iPhone something like “John’s 
iPhone” you have to go to Settings>  General > About and edit the name to what 
you want, during a reset network settings it is reset to simply “iPhone”.

 

Finally, if all that doesn’t help and you already upgraded last Monday and the 
battery still drains very fast then you may have to do what Mario had to do 
with his iPhone SE which is to do a complete restore to factory settings and 
set up the phone from scratch. At times things can get messed up during an 
upgrade. 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

 

Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is dropping 
and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status bar. Under settings, 
(privacy) I turned location services off. Region tracking no longer appears in 
the status bar. However, my battery is still dropping. (1) should region 
tracking appear in the status bar? (2) are there other features that should be 
disabled in IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery power? 

Thank you. 

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Couple of IOS 12 Questions

[Blind Treasures {Your One Stop Shop}]

Couple of questions I hope someone can shed a little light on! 

Firstly, how do you go about adding a phone number from a text message to a
new contact? I for my life cannot figure it out. Secondly, has anyone else
noticed that now when creating a new text message and wanting to add an
emoji that voiceover will no longer read what it is? Mine just announces
"Meme images" as I swipe through them.

 

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RE: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As far as region tracking I would try to go through all the apps in location 
services including the system settings area at the very bottom to find out 
which app is using it, could very well be that previously turned off apps got 
turned on during the update.
Do you have any sort of home automation devices such as a connected thermostat, 
Ring video doorbell, smart lock, lights etc? Often they use geofencing to track 
whether you are home or not.
Another area as I said is the system area where you have things like time zone, 
location based reminders etc.

Lastly, when did you update? Did you close all apps before updating and do a 
reboot of the phone?
These are not things Apple may officially recommend, but I find it’s good 
practice and it can avoid issues, even better is to do a Reset Network Settings 
after you close all apps in the app switcher and before you do a major update.

Another consideration is this: somebody had posted an article where the author 
said that often after an update the iPhone may drain more rapidly for a few 
days because iOS is doing a lot of reindexing of files and so on.

If you updated recently have you done an additional reboot after your phone 
came back up after the update, i.e. turn it off completely for a minute or so, 
then turn it back on?
If you have or if that doesn’t help I suggest you try to go to Settings > 
General > Reset and do a Reset Network Settings now, it can still do a lot of 
good.
Make sure you quit all apps in the app switcher first and remember that you 
need your WiFi password since you have to reconnect to your WiFi after a Reset 
Network Settings. Also, if you had called your iPhone something like “John’s 
iPhone” you have to go to Settings>  General > About and edit the name to what 
you want, during a reset network settings it is reset to simply “iPhone”.

Finally, if all that doesn’t help and you already upgraded last Monday and the 
battery still drains very fast then you may have to do what Mario had to do 
with his iPhone SE which is to do a complete restore to factory settings and 
set up the phone from scratch. At times things can get messed up during an 
upgrade.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John J. 
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is dropping 
and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status bar. Under settings, 
(privacy) I turned location services off. Region tracking no longer appears in 
the status bar. However, my battery is still dropping. (1) should region 
tracking appear in the status bar? (2) are there other features that should be 
disabled in IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery power?
Thank you.
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RE: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[Debby]

Hi John,

 

I remember someone saying a few days ago that for the first few days on iOS 12 
the battery will go down faster, but after that, things will get better. 
Evidently, the phone is doing software stuff like indexing. Unfortunately with 
a quick search, I can’t find the post where I saw that. 

 

Good Luck!

 

Debby

 

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John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

 

Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is dropping 
and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status bar. Under settings, 
(privacy) I turned location services off. Region tracking no longer appears in 
the status bar. However, my battery is still dropping. (1) should region 
tracking appear in the status bar? (2) are there other features that should be 
disabled in IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery power? 

Thank you. 

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RE: How to return to the home screen on iPhone XS?

[Tom Rash]

I’m not sure if this is the case, but make sure that oice over is on. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to return to the home screen on iPhone XS?

 

I will visit the store again in a week time when it is less crowded and try 
again.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to return to the home screen on iPhone XS?

 

Hi, You ar doing the gestures correctly. I don’t get why you are not hearing 
tones or anything. Do you hear a tone when putting your finger on the bottom of 
the screen? Maybe try swiping up a little bit faster? The most comfusing part 
is why isn’t the phone vibrating. Try turning sounds on in the rotor and have 
the store employees make sure vibrations are turned on.


On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Cris Ali mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Hello folks,

Yesterday I had the chance to drop by the Apple Store and play a little with 
the new iPhones, XS and max.  I thought I would find it easy to use, since many 
of you spoke about the replacement gestures to the home key.  I assumed that a 
slow slide up until I hear the first tone would take me to the home screen, and 
if I continued the slide up until I hear the second tone it would take me to 
the app switcher.

Unfortunately, when I did my slow slide up I did not hear any tones to know 
when to lift my finger to go to the home screen, or how to go to the app 
switcher.  Either the store was too noisy and I missed hearing the tones, or 
the tones were turned off.  One of the store employees told me that I should 
feel a vibration when I slide up to the point of lifting my finger, but I felt 
no vibration either.  What is going on?  Where did I go wrong?  I admit that it 
was a very discouraging experience for me.

 

What do you suggest?

 

Cheers,

 

Cris 

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RE: Raise to wake or not

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Liz,

Gordon already provided the correct answer, but also for those who might forget 
where to find a particular Setting I wanted to mention the often forgotten 
search box at the top of Settings.
If you type a word into this search box which is related to the feature/setting 
you are looking for then very often it will show you what you are trying to 
find.
Voiceover will read the results and in each case it will also tell you where 
the particular setting is located.
This is the same feature you now find in Windows 10 when  you open the Settings 
app there or, if you are a Jaws user, if you use Jaws Key+6 to go to the Jaws 
Settings Centre.
In this particular case, if you type "raise" into the search box the only 
result you get is "Raise to Wake" and this is followed by "Display and 
Brightness". Therefore you now know that the Raise to Wake setting is found in 
Display and Brightness, but you can also double tap on the result and it opens 
up the Display and Bright ness category and then all you have to do is swipe to 
Raise to Wake to turn it on or off.
If you had typed "wake" you would have been presented with 3 results:
1. Raise to Wake, Display and Brightness - again the result we wanted in this 
case
2. Click Wake/Sleep 3 times, Emergency S O S
3. Click Wake/Sleep 5 times, Emergency S O S
Interestingly enough when you double tap on either Click Wake/Sleep 3 times or 
Click Wake/Sleep 5 times you are taken to the Emergency S O S section each time 
as indicated, but the only setting in there is the one where you click 5 tyimes 
to quickly initiate a call to emergency services, 9 1 1  in North America. I 
have no idea why there is the other result about clicking it 3 times. But 
anyways, it did find both settings which have the word "wake" in them.

I often find that using this search box as well as the item chooser (2-finger 
triple tap) are often forgotten or overlooked features which are very useful.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Raise to wake or not

Settings and display. It's all in there.


On 9/23/2018 1:09 AM, Liz Ulrich and LD Hope wrote:
> How do you turn raise to wake off? I don't like having this feature on 
> because the phone will wake up at inconvenient times if my phone shifts in my 
> purse.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
> HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
>
>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>
>> I also have mine turned off.It would just wake up in my purse when I don't 
>> want it to.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of jturner...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Raise to wake or not
>>
>> I had it onn for a long time, but decided I liked it off better.
>>
>> Jeffrey
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:40 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Raise to wake or not
>>
>> I think that's something that sighted people like to use so that they can 
>> glance at the screen when an alert comes in. I've always had mine off.
>>
>>
>>> On 9/22/2018 4:24 PM, Agent086b wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> with my new phone raise to wake is on. Previous iPhones I have owned I have 
>>> not had that turned on. Is there any reason not to turn it off? I notice 
>>> sometimes when it is in my pocket and if I squat down to do something it 
>>> will turn on.
>>> Thanks once again for any ideas.
>>> Max.
>>>
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Re: hey siri appears to be deaf?

[Davy Cuppens]

That seems to be a small bug that is device dependend. Some do have it some 
not.
Workaround: go to settings and put hey siri off and on again and the problem 
should be solved.


Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hey siri appears to be deaf?

I have my SE in a case, but it does not cover the proximity censor, so it 
works fine.
I did not realize that if it were face down, Hey Siri wouldn't work since 
I'd never tried it.  Sure enough, it doesn't if the phone is face down.


Good to know.
Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hey siri appears to be deaf?

As it does on my 6S Plus which is a lot like ther iPhone SE when it comes to 
the inside.
Of course if the proximity sensor is covered, e.g. the phone is screen down 
or in a case, Hey SIRI won't work.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hey siri appears to be deaf?

I have an SE and Hey Siri has continued to work fine after updating to iOS 
12.

Have you talked with Apple Accessibility as yet?
Perhaps, there is an issue with your microphone?
Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Marcia Yale

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hey siri appears to be deaf?

I tried that, even shutting down the phone prior to re-enabling it, and Hey 
Siri is still a crap shoot--sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. For 
those of you who have found that disabling it and re-enabling it worked, I'm 
using an SE and wonder if the newer phones are more likely to be fixed.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Davy Cuppens

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hey siri appears to be deaf?

That seems to be a small bug in the update process for some devices.
Workaround: just disable hi siri and enable it again and the problem should 
be solved.

DAvy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hey siri appears to be deaf?

I just say Hay Siri and start telling her or asking what I want, and she 
works.


Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: hey siri appears to be deaf?

I went through the setup process and Siri reports it recognizes me However, 
when I say the wake word, it does not respond. 8 plus, powered, connected to 
wi-fi, what did I miss? Am I correct in thinking I had to cycle the phone?

Ray T. Mahorney
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Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is
dropping and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status bar.
Under settings, (privacy) I turned location services off. Region tracking no
longer appears in the status bar. However, my battery is still dropping. (1)
should region tracking appear in the status bar? (2) are there other
features that should be disabled in IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery
power? 

Thank you. 

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RE: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

[pdllogan77]

I would look at it this way, if you want to have the ability to leave your 
phone at home .. and still be able to make calls .. take texts .. listen to 
things like Apple music ..then definitely go with the cellular version.  
Remember however you will have to pay for service on the watch in addition to 
the phone ..  I bought the cellular version .. used it initially .. then 
decided that it wasn't worth paying about $17 after taxes to have the ability 
...  I rarely go anywhere where I don't have my phone...  On the plus side, it 
was nice to be able to if I was going for a walk or whatever to be able to 
leave the phone at home...

It comes down to what you want to be able to do.  Hope that helps.

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alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:04 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: watch series 4, to just wifi or cellular that is the question

Hi once again, since there is no dumb question except the one not asked I will 
ask. Can someone help this old lady understand why would anyone buy a series 4 
Apple watch with no cellular, just wifi? I can understand iPad or iPhone since 
you can use wifi at work or home and you can hook into wifi in some places. 
However, the watch does actually tell you the time, among every other thing it 
can do, right? So you wear it all day, but sometimes you go outside. Is there 
enough wifi around to keep the watch running or does it run off your phone's 
cellular or wifi? Curious. Going to buy a series 4 watch so which should I get? 
Thanks


Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a 
broken heart." So God made a dog.

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Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

[Angie Nutt]

What you’ve said has the opposite effect: it reassures me that these things 
aren’t getting  too big. Bodes well for the one coming out in October which is 
the one I’m interested in.

All the best
Angie


> On 23 Sep 2018, at 03:04, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended
> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.
> 
> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected,
> there were almost no customers.  
> 
> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic
> Apple representative.  
> 
> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted
> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you
> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I
> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow
> me, enough.
> 
> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern
> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its
> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was
> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop
> grinning, every time I held it in my hand.
> 
> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It felt,
> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet
> computer.  
> 
> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my
> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)  
> 
> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android
> enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega.
> 
> 
> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on
> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on
> the 10 S Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it or not, the actual
> body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus.  
> 
> I was so disappointed.  I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales
> rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention.  
> 
> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10
> S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger,
> much larger than my beloved 8 Plus.  In fact, I suppose, I was counting on
> it.  
> 
> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better
> the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!.  
> 
> All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from
> my beloved 8 Plus.  
> 
> As for the Apple watch?  Same scenario.  If there is any major size
> difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new
> watch.  
> 
> Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays
> without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a
> let-down.  I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least,
> it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse,
> set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Problem With Whatsapp and iPhone 8

[Mário Navarro]

Hi Steve.
Yes, it is true, it is a issue that is only real in this WhatsApp update...
 all People who have upgraded to this version all have this issue.
I mean, blind people, personal friends, and friends in discussion groups
Now we just need to know if it is an app issue, or accessibility issue 
related to VO...

cheers.


Às 08:33 de 23/09/2018, Steve Matzura escreveu:
Haven't had garbling, but sometimes folks get messages that are slow 
and have slapback echo. Sounds real funny when it happens.



On 9/22/2018 5:36 PM, Lynn White wrote:


Sent from my iPhoneHas anyone else had an issue where you record a 
message in Whatsapp and having the message cut short to about 30 
seconds and the audio being garbled?


I have run into several friends of mine who have also run into this.  
Is there someone at Whatsapp that can be contacted? Thanks.






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Re: Problem With Whatsapp and iPhone 8

[Steve Matzura]

Haven't had garbling, but sometimes folks get messages that are slow and 
have slapback echo. Sounds real funny when it happens.



On 9/22/2018 5:36 PM, Lynn White wrote:


Sent from my iPhoneHas anyone else had an issue where you record a message in 
Whatsapp and having the message cut short to about 30 seconds and the audio 
being garbled?

I have run into several friends of mine who have also run into this.  Is there 
someone at Whatsapp that can be contacted?  Thanks.



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Re: Raise to wake or not

[Gordon]

Settings and display. It's all in there.


On 9/23/2018 1:09 AM, Liz Ulrich and LD Hope wrote:

How do you turn raise to wake off? I don't like having this feature on because 
the phone will wake up at inconvenient times if my phone shifts in my purse.


Sent from my iPhone
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On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:

I also have mine turned off.It would just wake up in my purse when I don't want 
it to.

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Subject: RE: Raise to wake or not

I had it onn for a long time, but decided I liked it off better.

Jeffrey


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Raise to wake or not

I think that's something that sighted people like to use so that they can 
glance at the screen when an alert comes in. I've always had mine off.



On 9/22/2018 4:24 PM, Agent086b wrote:
Hi all,
with my new phone raise to wake is on. Previous iPhones I have owned I have not 
had that turned on. Is there any reason not to turn it off? I notice sometimes 
when it is in my pocket and if I squat down to do something it will turn on.
Thanks once again for any ideas.
Max.


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Re: Raise to wake or not

[Liz Ulrich and LD Hope]

How do you turn raise to wake off? I don't like having this feature on because 
the phone will wake up at inconvenient times if my phone shifts in my purse. 


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> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> I also have mine turned off.It would just wake up in my purse when I don't 
> want it to.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> jturner...@gmail.com
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> I had it onn for a long time, but decided I liked it off better.
> 
> Jeffrey
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Raise to wake or not
> 
> I think that's something that sighted people like to use so that they can 
> glance at the screen when an alert comes in. I've always had mine off.
> 
> 
>> On 9/22/2018 4:24 PM, Agent086b wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> with my new phone raise to wake is on. Previous iPhones I have owned I have 
>> not had that turned on. Is there any reason not to turn it off? I notice 
>> sometimes when it is in my pocket and if I squat down to do something it 
>> will turn on.
>> Thanks once again for any ideas.
>> Max.
>> 
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