Re: how to set up hands free on the alexa app?

[Arlene]

David, that was perfect, we got it set up with hands free. 
  I have another question you might be able to help with. When we were first 
setting up the alexa app, both our names were in the app, so we first clicked 
on my name so I could train Alexa to my voice, so how would we get back to 
where it has both our names so Wayne could train alex to his voice. Thank you.

  Arlene- Original Message - 
  From: davidmac1...@gmail.com 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 6:12 AM
  Subject: RE: how to set up hands free on the alexa app?


  1, Open the Alexa app,

   

  2, tap bottom right hand corner, "more",

   

  3, Double tap settings,

   

  4, Double tap Alexa app settings,

   

  5, You should now see hands free,

   

  Swipe right you will see/hear, enable Alexa hands free.

  Now you can go back to the home tab.

   

  You can now use Alexa hands free.  Note you need to have the Alexa app opened 
to use the hands free feature.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 4:19 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: how to set up hands free on the alexa app?

   

  When we first set up alexa on our phones we decided not to set up the hands 
free alexa. Then tonight we were looking to see how we could set up the hands 
free. The instructions we heard was to go into setting alexa though we could 
find hands free mode. Thank you for help with this.

   

  Arlene

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how to set up hands free on the alexa app?

[Arlene]

When we first set up alexa on our phones we decided not to set up the hands 
free alexa. Then tonight we were looking to see how we could set up the hands 
free. The instructions we heard was to go into setting alexa though we could 
find hands free mode. Thank you for help with this.

Arlene

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Re: A Question for Audible Subscribers

[Arlene]

Mark, I don't yet have either kindle or audible, but I would like to get 
both. This is excellent infomation including thariticle. Thank you.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: A Question for Audible Subscribers


Hello Kait,

Okay, I am going to paste in a small article that describes what Whispersync 
for Voice is and does but I don't think the article reads well for a 
VoiceOver user so let me thumbnail it for you:


1.
When you purchase a Whispersync for Voice kindle title, this is to say that 
it is a title that has an audible companion, not only can you listen to the 
professional audio narration, as you would do from within the Audible app, 
but you can see the text of the book scrolling on the display in 
synchronization with the audio playback.  This is a very nice feature for a 
sighted or low vision person.


2.
One way to take advantage of this feature is to search for a word or phrase 
from within the kindle app, then, once founds, select the play button and 
the professional audio version will begin to play from that specific 
location.


3.
The Whispersync for Voice feature it what allows Alexa to either read the 
Kindle title, directly, or playback the Audible version from the title's 
last known reading position.


Now, I'm not certain how useful with feature would be to someone who does 
not use Alexa very much or to someone who does not have a need to search a 
book or who does not particularly enjoy the Kindle app.


As for pricing, one does not need to be an Audible subscriber to enjoy any 
of the features described, above.


For example, I recently purchased a Kindle title for $5.  Now the Audible 
version of that same title, without an Audible subscription was $26.


However, after merging my accounts, yesterday, I was able to purchase the 
Audible version for $1.99 as I already owned the Kindle title.


Okay, the following is a little article from Audible.com.

Mark

Whispersync for Voice | Audible.com

Keep the Story Going
Switch between listening to an audiobook and reading on your Kindle with 
Whispersync for Voice.


When you can't read, listen.

Now you can switch between reading and listening to your Kindle books with 
the simple tap of a button.


Just pop in your headphones, tap the button, and keep the story going...in 
the car, in the gym, in the kitchen, wherever your day takes you. Whenever 
your eyes are occupied but your mind is free, your story is ready for 
listening.


How it Works

Buy the Kindle book

Add audio companion

Switch between reading and listening on the Kindle App or tablet

Experience Immersion Reading

Read and listen simultaneously with real-time highlighting. It's called 
Immersion Reading and that's what it does: immerse you in a story by 
narrating and highlighting the text as you read. It sparks an extra 
connection that boosts engagement, comprehension, and retention, taking you 
deeper into the book.


Available on Kindle App for Android and iOS, Fire HD 6 Tablet, Fire HD 7 
Tablet, Kindle Fire HDX Tablet, and Fire HDX 8.9


Read. Listen. Repeat.

You can switch from reading to listening within the Kindle Fire Tablet or 
Kindle app. Or, you can switch between reading on one device and listening 
on another. For example, you can read on your tablet and then listen on your 
smartphone, and, thanks to Whispersync for Voice, you'll never lose your 
place.


Read with: Kindle Apps, Kindle, Kindle Paperwhite, Kindle Oasis, and Fire 
Tablets


Listen with: Kindle Apps, Alexa Devices, Fire Tablets, Kindle, Kindle 
Paperwhite, Kindle Oasis, and Audible Apps for iPhone, Android, and Windows


Article at:
https://www.audible.com/ep/wfs


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for Audible Subscribers

Hello,
Sorry. should have more clear.  What I meant in merging was how if audio is 
purchased is it merged with my amazon account and this whisper voice 
feature.

thank you,
Kait

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 12:25 PM Kait Forbes 
<mailto:miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
I am new to Amazon books and kindle. Could someone explain what is meant by 
Whispers Voice feature  in kindle, and how it works and how it is merged 
with my amazon account?  I naturally assumed that it went with kindle books 
and now that I have purchased a few books, I am left with what to do with 
them ?  They can't be used by my family member as it stands at the moment 
and are totally useless to her.



On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 2:56 AM CJ & AA MAY <mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
I'm relatively new to Audible but I have often found that it doesn't show 
all the books in my wish list, even though I have the correct filters 
ticked.

Alison

-Original Message-
From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf

Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

[Arlene]

Sieghard, We have family sharing set up and it is working. I'm sure of that 
since we just purchased an app about a week ago, and this app under family 
sharing on 3 devices with the same apple id and Arlene's 2 devices of which 
this new app works on all 5 devices. Though with voice sense no go, it won't 
work with a different apple idea, in this case meaning Arlene's 2 devices of 
which are under our family sharing. When we purchased super sense about a 
year ago or a little longer, Shane said at tat time they didn't do family 
sharing. As you can imagine before all this discussion about super sense, we 
coincidentally deleted the expired demo from Arlene's devices, because we 
were wondering if they had gotten family sharing going. So about a week ago 
Arlene downloaded and installed super sense on her phone, and it was a 
trial, so we didn't bother to download it to the iPad, so therefore we 
figured that super sense had not gotten family sharing included in their 
app. However, if they do have family sharing I wonder what the problem could 
be.

Wayne

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars


How to you enable family sharing, I don't recall that there is anything you 
have to do beyond setting it up for the first time and inviting one or more 
people.


Can you explain exactly step by step what you have done to try if it works?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: December 29, 2021 4:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

We have enabled family sharing of which the family sharing works with other 
apps, but doesn't work with super sense. When we talked to super sense over 
a year ago Shane said they weren't doing family sharing, but that they would 
consider doing family sharing. Though they are not doing it yet. It's up to 
the app developer.

- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Long" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars


Are you sure this hasn't been done?  This is from the app store page.
Supports

Family Sharing
With Family Sharing set up, up to six family members can use this app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

We mentioned this to you over a yar ago, we would certaintly hope that you 
would impliment family sharing. There's only 2 of us in this household, and 
there's not a snow ball's chance that we'll buy supper sense twice. Thanks 
for listening to this thread.

- Original Message -
From: "Shane Lowe" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars


Thanks very much to everyone for all of the detailed feedback here. It is 
welcome, and genuinely appreciated.


My plan is to use this thread as a direct source of information as we create 
our upcoming product roadmap. It has been a busy year, and we had to make 
some decisions that put some of the features requested for Supersense on 
hold for a time. I cannot be happier to say that we do have extensive plans 
to work on many of the features mentioned here as soon as we are able, and 
all feedback is welcome as we prepare to enter that phase. I do not wish to 
give you a date to expect features because as you and I both learned over 
the past year, a lot can happen to waylay a project, especially when it 
requires extensive research and development.
For now, please continue to send your thoughts about the app, and I hope to 
bring you an update on what is coming down the pipeline soon.


All the best, and happy holidays to everyone!

On 12/27/21, pegkan...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
Sullivan plus is the scanning app it does very well when trying to
read where a package has come from and who it is too. It also reads
other things it’s very much like voice dream scanner and seeing AI but
it is free.
Take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Dec 27, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Richard Turner

wrote:


You said “I love solvent plus and I love voice dream scanner…”
What is Solvent Plus?  It sounds like a cleaning solution.




Richard
“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Dennis Long 
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

Hi, I purchased Supersense, InVision AI, and have tried both. I was
very disappointed in Supersense due to the fact that I had just
purchased it for a full price in trying to help out the developer.
When I contacted them to inquire if I could get a partial refund
since it

Re: how to copy

[Arlene]

We selected text, but we're not hearing on the roter. Thank you.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 9:37 AM
  Subject: RE: how to copy


  If you do not have Text Selection on your rotor, go into the VoiceOver Rotor 
settings and select it.

   

  Go to the start of what you want to copy.

  Turn the rotor to Text Selection.

  Flick up or down and you will find options like character, word, line, page, 
select all.

  When you find the amount by which you wish to copy flick right.

  Keep flicking right until you have selected all you want.

  Turn the rotor to edit and flick up or down to copy and double tap.

  Go where you want to paste it and turn to Edit and flick up or down to paste 
and double tap.

   

  You can also assign gestures to copy cut and paste in the commands area of 
VoiceOver settings.

   

  HTH,

   

   

   

  Richard

  “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

   

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 7:18 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: how to copy

   

  Hi again,

  On my iPhone I did a search for a menu on the Google app.  I found it and the 
menu is in one nice long file.  How can I copy the whole thing all at once and 
then I would just send it to myself and clean it up later.  I am more 
interested in putting the whole thing on the clipboard all in one shot.  Thanks 
for any help.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

   

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Re: how to copy

[Arlene]

Shane, thank you for extending contact. Recently I redownloaded super sense but 
it couldn't be joined to the family sharing. Could that be, because it wasn't 
purchased that way to begin with? I'm hoping the family sharing can work out 
for us since especially we've made a lot of use from the barcode scanner. Thank 
you.

Arlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 9:37 AM
  Subject: RE: how to copy


  If you do not have Text Selection on your rotor, go into the VoiceOver Rotor 
settings and select it.

   

  Go to the start of what you want to copy.

  Turn the rotor to Text Selection.

  Flick up or down and you will find options like character, word, line, page, 
select all.

  When you find the amount by which you wish to copy flick right.

  Keep flicking right until you have selected all you want.

  Turn the rotor to edit and flick up or down to copy and double tap.

  Go where you want to paste it and turn to Edit and flick up or down to paste 
and double tap.

   

  You can also assign gestures to copy cut and paste in the commands area of 
VoiceOver settings.

   

  HTH,

   

   

   

  Richard

  “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

   

  My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 7:18 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: how to copy

   

  Hi again,

  On my iPhone I did a search for a menu on the Google app.  I found it and the 
menu is in one nice long file.  How can I copy the whole thing all at once and 
then I would just send it to myself and clean it up later.  I am more 
interested in putting the whole thing on the clipboard all in one shot.  Thanks 
for any help.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

   

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Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

[Arlene]

We have enabled family sharing of which the family sharing works with other 
apps, but doesn't work with super sense. When we talked to super sense over 
a year ago Shane said they weren't doing family sharing, but that they would 
consider doing family sharing. Though they are not doing it yet. It's up to 
the app developer.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars


Are you sure this hasn't been done?  This is from the app store page.
Supports

Family Sharing
With Family Sharing set up, up to six family members can use this app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

We mentioned this to you over a yar ago, we would certaintly hope that you 
would impliment family sharing. There's only 2 of us in this household, and 
there's not a snow ball's chance that we'll buy supper sense twice. Thanks 
for listening to this thread.

- Original Message -
From: "Shane Lowe" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars


Thanks very much to everyone for all of the detailed feedback here. It is 
welcome, and genuinely appreciated.


My plan is to use this thread as a direct source of information as we create 
our upcoming product roadmap. It has been a busy year, and we had to make 
some decisions that put some of the features requested for Supersense on 
hold for a time. I cannot be happier to say that we do have extensive plans 
to work on many of the features mentioned here as soon as we are able, and 
all feedback is welcome as we prepare to enter that phase. I do not wish to 
give you a date to expect features because as you and I both learned over 
the past year, a lot can happen to waylay a project, especially when it 
requires extensive research and development.
For now, please continue to send your thoughts about the app, and I hope to 
bring you an update on what is coming down the pipeline soon.


All the best, and happy holidays to everyone!

On 12/27/21, pegkan...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
Sullivan plus is the scanning app it does very well when trying to
read where a package has come from and who it is too. It also reads
other things it’s very much like voice dream scanner and seeing AI but
it is free.
Take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Dec 27, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Richard Turner

wrote:


You said “I love solvent plus and I love voice dream scanner…”
What is Solvent Plus?  It sounds like a cleaning solution.




Richard
“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Dennis Long 
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

Hi, I purchased Supersense, InVision AI, and have tried both. I was
very disappointed in Supersense due to the fact that I had just
purchased it for a full price in trying to help out the developer.
When I contacted them to inquire if I could get a partial refund
since it went on sale after I purchase it the question was never
answered and I was never advised that I could get partial refund
which really disappointed me since I just made the purchase.
I love solvent plus and I love voice dream scanner both are very good
much better than InVision AI and super sense.
Take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Dec 27, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:


Well, I bought both SuperSense and envision at around the same time,
over a year ago. Both were on sale for a life subscription. At the
time Supersense could not OCR Arabic language image pdf files, while
envision did a fantastic job on such files. With time I became
dependant on envision and even forgot that I bought Supersense. Now,
Supersense can do Arabic language image pdf files, but the quality of
the OCR on these files is not as great as envision. For the instant
use of short text, as it may be called, Seeing AI does a better job
than both Envision and Supersense.
That is why I do not use SuperSense that often, if any.

On 12/27/21 11:28, Dennis Long wrote:
Can you say why  you don’t use Supersense?  This will hopefully help
it improve.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

I also bought supersense to support the development of the app. In
almost all situations, I use either envision or seeing AI.

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 27, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

 I did purchase the lifetime subscription... because I do want to
support the developer. I hope it does get beter... and I'm sure it
will. I don'

Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

[Arlene]

We mentioned this to you over a yar ago, we would certaintly hope that you 
would impliment family sharing. There's only 2 of us in this household, and 
there's not a snow ball's chance that we'll buy supper sense twice. Thanks 
for listening to this thread.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shane Lowe" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars


Thanks very much to everyone for all of the detailed feedback here. It
is welcome, and genuinely appreciated.

My plan is to use this thread as a direct source of information as we
create our upcoming product roadmap. It has been a busy year, and we
had to make some decisions that put some of the features requested for
Supersense on hold for a time. I cannot be happier to say that we do
have extensive plans to work on many of the features mentioned here as
soon as we are able, and all feedback is welcome as we prepare to
enter that phase. I do not wish to give you a date to expect features
because as you and I both learned over the past year, a lot can happen
to waylay a project, especially when it requires extensive research
and development.
For now, please continue to send your thoughts about the app, and I
hope to bring you an update on what is coming down the pipeline soon.

All the best, and happy holidays to everyone!

On 12/27/21, pegkan...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
Sullivan plus is the scanning app it does very well when trying to read
where a package has come from and who it is too. It also reads other 
things

it’s very much like voice dream scanner and seeing AI but it is free.
Take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Dec 27, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Richard Turner 
wrote:


You said “I love solvent plus and I love voice dream scanner…”
What is Solvent Plus?  It sounds like a cleaning solution.




Richard
“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Dennis Long 
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

Hi, I purchased Supersense, InVision AI, and have tried both. I was very
disappointed in Supersense due to the fact that I had just purchased it
for a full price in trying to help out the developer. When I contacted
them to inquire if I could get a partial refund since it went on sale
after I purchase it the question was never answered and I was never
advised that I could get partial refund which really disappointed me 
since

I just made the purchase.
I love solvent plus and I love voice dream scanner both are very good 
much

better than InVision AI and super sense.
Take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Dec 27, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:


Well, I bought both SuperSense and envision at around the same time, over
a year ago. Both were on sale for a life subscription. At the time
Supersense could not OCR Arabic language image pdf files, while envision
did a fantastic job on such files. With time I became dependant on
envision and even forgot that I bought Supersense. Now, Supersense can do
Arabic language image pdf files, but the quality of the OCR on these 
files

is not as great as envision. For the instant use of short text, as it may
be called, Seeing AI does a better job than both Envision and Supersense.
That is why I do not use SuperSense that often, if any.

On 12/27/21 11:28, Dennis Long wrote:
Can you say why  you don’t use Supersense?  This will hopefully help it
improve.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

I also bought supersense to support the development of the app. In almost
all situations, I use either envision or seeing AI.

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 27, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

 I did purchase the lifetime subscription... because I do want to 
support

the developer. I hope it does get beter... and I'm sure it will. I don't
know that I regret it... but I probably will have if I didn't take
advantage of the sale.

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 27, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Richard Turner 


wrote:


I don’t regret purchasing it either, but I only paid $40 for the life 
time

subscription on a great special deal.

Is it really worth $40, I’m not sure.  It ain’t worth no $100 when other
apps can do much of the same stuff for a lot less.

This is a free market economy, at least so they tell us, and competition
drives the market place…

Seeing AI recognizes stuff on the TV screen too.
Now, the built-in camera on iPhones recognizes tons of text on the fly
plus QR codes on the TV, etc.

It does have some bar codes that Seeing AI doesn’t have, and for me, that
is the one area that keeps it in my toolbox.

I would use it more if it wasn’t for that damn auto scanning it insists 
on

doing instead of 

Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

[Arlene]

Supper sense bar code scanner works well.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Arnold Schmidt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 9:35 AM
  Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars


  The only thing I think Supersense does better than the others are the bar 
codes. I have to figure out whether reading bar codes is worth the subscription 
price, being that I have other apps that will do  the other things Supersense 
does, some of them much better. I have yet to put out any money for it. If they 
offered me only the bar code reader for, say, half the price, I would go for 
that.  


  Arnold Schmidt 



  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

  On Dec 27, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


   
  I don’t regret purchasing it either, but I only paid $40 for the life time 
subscription on a great special deal.



  Is it really worth $40, I’m not sure.  It ain’t worth no $100 when other apps 
can do much of the same stuff for a lot less.



  This is a free market economy, at least so they tell us, and competition 
drives the market place…



  Seeing AI recognizes stuff on the TV screen too.

  Now, the built-in camera on iPhones recognizes tons of text on the fly plus 
QR codes on the TV, etc.



  It does have some bar codes that Seeing AI doesn’t have, and for me, that is 
the one area that keeps it in my toolbox.



  I would use it more if it wasn’t for that damn auto scanning it insists on 
doing instead of waiting until I am ready to scan.













  Richard

  “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin



  My web site; https://www.turner42.com/



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 7:17 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars



  I don’t regret purchasing it.  It does bar codes and things that pop up on 
your TV set very well.I like that it does on device scanning.  This being said 
it was practically promised that column detection was coming in 2020.  It is 
now the end of 2021 and we still don’t have this.  I don’t believe Richard was 
the only one to ask for an option to not have it auto start.  I also noticed 
that android didn’t have the option to request a call.  This should’ve been 
added.  Hoping Supersense improves in 2022.







  Dennis Long

  Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro





On Dec 27, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 Dennis, I agree with you. 

I've owned SuperSense for about one year now.

I gave up requesting for the option to have it start at the menu instead of 
immediately scanning whatever you last used. That would be a simple toggle 
option to add; but nada.

They implied, if not almost promised, that column recognition was right 
around the corner starting a year ago ... yet nothing.

What SuperSense does, it does fairly well; but it is an annoying interface.

I end up defaulting to Seeing AI for much of what SuperSense does because 
the interface is so much easier.

And now that column recognition is in Voice Dream Scanner, it remains my go 
to scanning app.





Richard



“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

website:  www.turner42.com



(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)





  On Dec 26, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:

   

  If I were to rate it now it would get between 2 and 3 stars.  1 no option 
to easily get back to share your previous scans.  I was able to do this twice.  
I haven’t been able to get back to the recent scans again.  2 it automatically 
thinks it knows the mode you want.  There should be an option to turn the auto 
start off.  If you want to choose a different mode it is automatically trying 
to use the last mode you used.  I say it should be an option to turn this off 
for those that like the current behavior.  3 despite promise of column 
detection this hasn’t  been added.  So its probably closer to 2 stars versus 3 
stars.

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Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

[Arlene]

with supper sense it's unfortunate they don't do family sharing, it's all about 
the money. We don't chose to buy 2 subscriptions, and we did mention this to 
Shane.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 9:22 AM
  Subject: RE: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars


  I don’t regret purchasing it either, but I only paid $40 for the life time 
subscription on a great special deal.

   

  Is it really worth $40, I’m not sure.  It ain’t worth no $100 when other apps 
can do much of the same stuff for a lot less.

   

  This is a free market economy, at least so they tell us, and competition 
drives the market place…

   

  Seeing AI recognizes stuff on the TV screen too.

  Now, the built-in camera on iPhones recognizes tons of text on the fly plus 
QR codes on the TV, etc.

   

  It does have some bar codes that Seeing AI doesn’t have, and for me, that is 
the one area that keeps it in my toolbox.

   

  I would use it more if it wasn’t for that damn auto scanning it insists on 
doing instead of waiting until I am ready to scan.

   

   

   

   

   

   

  Richard

  “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

   

  My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 7:17 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

   

  I don’t regret purchasing it.  It does bar codes and things that pop up on 
your TV set very well.I like that it does on device scanning.  This being said 
it was practically promised that column detection was coming in 2020.  It is 
now the end of 2021 and we still don’t have this.  I don’t believe Richard was 
the only one to ask for an option to not have it auto start.  I also noticed 
that android didn’t have the option to request a call.  This should’ve been 
added.  Hoping Supersense improves in 2022.

   





  Dennis Long

  Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro





On Dec 27, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 Dennis, I agree with you. 

I've owned SuperSense for about one year now.

I gave up requesting for the option to have it start at the menu instead of 
immediately scanning whatever you last used. That would be a simple toggle 
option to add; but nada.

They implied, if not almost promised, that column recognition was right 
around the corner starting a year ago ... yet nothing.

What SuperSense does, it does fairly well; but it is an annoying interface.

I end up defaulting to Seeing AI for much of what SuperSense does because 
the interface is so much easier.

And now that column recognition is in Voice Dream Scanner, it remains my go 
to scanning app.

 

 

Richard

 

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

website:  www.turner42.com

 

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)





  On Dec 26, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:

   

  If I were to rate it now it would get between 2 and 3 stars.  1 no option 
to easily get back to share your previous scans.  I was able to do this twice.  
I haven’t been able to get back to the recent scans again.  2 it automatically 
thinks it knows the mode you want.  There should be an option to turn the auto 
start off.  If you want to choose a different mode it is automatically trying 
to use the last mode you used.  I say it should be an option to turn this off 
for those that like the current behavior.  3 despite promise of column 
detection this hasn’t  been added.  So its probably closer to 2 stars versus 3 
stars.

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Re: Recording live music with the iPhone

[Arlene]

Richard, that was excellent sounding. Thanks for sharing with us.

Arlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 12:51 PM
  Subject: Recording live music with the iPhone


  There has been some discussion of recording with the iPhone during live 
performances for personal use.

  I’ve put up an example on my web site of the possible results for those who 
just cannot help themselves…

  Here is the paragraph from my site and if you are using HTML messages, the 
link should play the sample.
   
  Recording live music with the iPhone 13 pro
  Confession time.
  I am putting up a sample of a recording I made recently of 6 cellist playing 
in an Atrium, which had a ceiling that was almost 3 stories tall. It was a 
large room and we were sitting in folding chairs a little more than half of the 
way from front-to-back and close to the middle side-to-side. If full the way 
they had the seats arranged with some space between, it probably would seat 150 
to 200 people, more in non-Covid times.

  My iPhone is the 13 Pro and I carry it in a shoulder bag.
  I didn't want to try and hold it during the concert so I started recording 
with the app, Just Press Record, and dropped it in my carrier. So, one end is 
sticking down into the small bag so the microphone is pointing at the floor, 
through the material of the bag. The other end is pointing toward the ceiling 
with the flap that normally covers it pulled back to give it open access to the 
room.

  * Nothing in the program nor nothing said from the stage forbad recording. I 
know, I know; probably since they record their own programs for their own 
subscription service they probably don't' want people like me recording. 
However, it was not explicitly stated and I just did this for myself out of 
curiosity.

  Here is a sample of the 6 cellists of the 45TH Parallel Universe playing the 
Hallelujah Chorus from the Messiah.
  HallelujahChorusSample.mp3

   

   

  Richard

  “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

   

  My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

   


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Re: how to make the click sound louder when putting in password

[Arlene]

The strange thing is all 4  phones are on the same update, and 2 of them are 
having this problem with the click sounding where it just about can't be 
heard, but the other 2 phones are fine, where you can hear the click as your 
typing the password. I don't know if this is one of these times when an 
update caused this, but if that's the case maybe another update will help 
itd. If not, then possibly someone might know something, and as I said it's 
strange since the other 2 phones are okay.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Yates" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: how to make the click sound louder when putting in password


It does seem like, prior to a few of these upgrades, the iPhone would give a 
good loud click each time I entered a password, but overtime they cut that 
back or something

Dan


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  
wrote:


You can't increase the click sound when entering in things like
passwords, or your touch ID.  I'd suggest try wearing a pair of
bluetooth headphones or ear-buds.  Whenever I wear a set of bluetooth
headphones and I need to enter in my passcode, I always hear the
clicks when I'm wearing my headphones.


On 12/19/21, Arlene  wrote:
On a few of our phones of which are the first se phones, the click sound 
is

very faint, it can hardly be heard. So if you can tell us how to increase
the volume on the click sound when typing in a password. Thank you for
assistance with this.

Arlene

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how to make the click sound louder when putting in password

[Arlene]

On a few of our phones of which are the first se phones, the click sound is 
very faint, it can hardly be heard. So if you can tell us how to increase the 
volume on the click sound when typing in a password. Thank you for assistance 
with this.

Arlene

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Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

[Arlene]

Kay, that is so cute. I too use to think there were people in the radio too.
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


You laugh about the little man in the watch.  When I was really young my mom
tells me that I got out a screw driver and proceeded to take apart a radio
that they had and when she asked me why, I told her that I was looking for
the little people in there.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be
great in whatever they want to do.
Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


The little guy that lives in the watch can see what your doing ??.

Another answer, it is magic.

The real answer is it uses the sensors in the watch to detect a specific
pattern.  Likely it will get some false positives; like when it thought I
had fallen when I was tossing laundry into the dryer

Later,


Richard
"Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is
exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

Well, see what happens when I don't open an app to see how it works?  I'll
have to check it out.  How does it know you are washing your hands and not
just using water for something else?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be
great in whatever they want to do.
Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player


- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


you don't find it. you turn it on and when it detects you are washing
your hands it counts down

On 12/11/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:

So, I need some input with this app.  Usually, when you want to wash your
hands, they are dirty.  Dirt from playing in the garden, food from mixing
a

meatloaf and so on.  Did you put the handwashing feature in one of your
watch faces? Or do you wander through your apps until you find it, and
then

at that point what needs a bath more, you or your watch.  I guess the
point

of this is, What is the easiest way to find this app?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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great in whatever they want to do.
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- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:07 AM
Subject: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


Hello All,

Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous watch
was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.

I was delighted that I was able to setup my series 7 from a backup of my
series 4.  As a result, virtually all of my settings were transferred to
the
new watch.

So, I decided to give this new hand-washing timer a try.  I have to admit,
it is kind of fun.

I have always considered myself to be a rather thorough hand washer but,
as
of my new purchase, I find that I need to work a little harder to get the
job done right (smile).

Anyway, the hand-washing detection / timer feature is most definitely my
first new favorite feature of Apple watch series 7.

What a wonderful tool to have onboard.  Bravo, Apple.

Mark


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Re: Solved my mystery of VO saying comma before each deleted character

[Arlene]

Richard, I was one of the patient ones, hahahahahahahahahahhahaha, seriously 
it's such a more than great feeling when you can solve something and figure out 
what to do about it so congradulations to you. I'm so happy for you, but I knew 
if no one had an answer you'd eventually would figure it out, even though you 
have to do a little extra work with some of the settings, the main thing is 
everything is working right for you now.

Arlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: blindapp...@groups.io ; viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 9:34 AM
  Subject: Solved my mystery of VO saying comma before each deleted character


  I decided to use a small hammer to solve this annoying issue.  I reset all 
settings.

  The problem is gone.

  I first tried just resetting the dictionary thinking maybe that was the issue.



  No other setting seemed to be the problem so I decided to just reset all 
settings and poof, all works as it should, only I have to go through and fix 
all the settings that got cleared out.  

  But, I’ll take it.  



  Thanks for your patience with my notes on this issue.

  And, if you were not being patient, thank you for not telling me, .









  Richard

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how do you change your apple id email address

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Where do you go to change your apple id email? Thank you.

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stumped with signing up with the iHart app

[Arlene]

I was signing up with iHeart with the email address on my phone. When I get to 
unable locations or the option to put your zip code in the edit box. At fist I 
put my zip code in, and the next button disappeared, right befre that the next 
button was dimmed. So then I enabled locations, and the next button still 
wasn't there. So it gives you the option to go back. I went back a screen where 
I pressed the button for my gender and pressed the next button, and when I 
chose to enable locations, while I could hear that I pressed the button there 
was no questions since I got that established, I'm thinking anyway. Yet the 
next button is dimmed, so if anyone can tell me what to do from here so I can 
complete this sign up that would be great. The other part of this is that I 
thought I had iHeart already, and when I went through my apps I didn't find it, 
so that's why I decided to get iHeart, and I first started to sign up with this 
email address that I use here on the list and is the email address I used when 
we set up my phone. So when I began to sign up with iHeart I put this email 
address in the edit box and it told me it was already in use. Usually we have 
all our passwords written down, nd I don't remember that being written down  or 
it could even be possible if I had iHeart before the app got deleted on my 
phone, just a possiblity anyway. Would it bebetter to go on the iHeart web site 
to try to change the password with this email address I use here on the list or 
beable to complete my signup on the web site with the email address on my 
phone, and do that on the web site. Thank you for any help with this.

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Re: Anyone else getting no response from Hey Siri?

[Arlene]

That's been my experience, when asking about the weather yesterday afternoon. 
She first said, way a sec, and then she answered the other 3 questions I asked, 
just like normal.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Debbie Downey 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 10:23 AM
  Subject: RE: Anyone else getting no response from Hey Siri?


  HI Alan,

   

  Many times I will get the beeps but she will say; just a sec or working on it 
or something like that. 

   

  Once you get it to respond then if you continue to ask her questions she will 
respond right away!

   

  Debbie

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
  Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 10:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Anyone else getting no response from Hey Siri?

   

  Hi List,

   

  I know the Apple system and Siri burps from time to time like all technology 
but thought I’d ask the list if anyone else is not getting a response from Hey 
Siri this morning. I’ve double checked my Siri settings which are all set 
properly and set to work when my iPhone is locked but I’m getting no response 
from her at all whether the phone is locked or not. I’m just curious if others 
are experiencing this too. I’m running iOS 14.7 on an iPhone SE 2020.

   

  Thanks in advance.

   

  Alan Lemly

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Re: Treadmill app

[Arlene]

That's interesting, Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: "mich verrier" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: Treadmill app


Hey hear in Canada we use km as well for our distince and stuff like that. 
Also I red a few weeks ago the reasons why iffrent places drive on oppsit 
sides of the road and it has to do with knights and they were rideing there 
horses and what sides there sords were on etc. it also has a derect link to 
the places that napolien concerd if you look at a map all of the contries 
that he concerd drive on the left and the others drive on the right. From 
Mich.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland

Sent: June 7, 2021 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Now listen, I am right about this.  You guys are the ones who drive on the 
wrong side of the road, and there is no doubt about that. Smile!


Larry


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Of Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Larry
NZ converted back in the late 60's before I was born,

And I still use inchs feets miles etc,

But then I use the metric system as well.

And besides,

You guys still drive on the wrong side of the road, That wouldn’t' be an 
easy conversion.


Rotflmao

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland

Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:28 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

I don't know what I was thinking there.  Jimmy Carter would not be very 
happy with me for that. lolI wish the U.s. would go ahead and switch over to 
the metric system.  It would not take long for the people to get accustomed 
to itt.

Larry


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

That's from living in a metric nation that still can use empyreal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland

Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Oops, sorry, my bad you are right.


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Of Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Um,
100 miles per hour is equal to 160 kilometres per hour,

So one mile is approx. 1.6 Km.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland

Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:12 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

I don't think that is quite right.  .62 of a mile is one km. so two km is 
1.24 miles.

Larry


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

That's easy,

1.616 Km is approx. a mile,



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Johnson

Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill app

Hi, I ordered one from Amazon by the brand surene life and it has buttons 
that you can label and or it has the speed buttons up and down on one handle 
and on and off on the other.  There is also an app you can use to keep up 
with your miles but it is in kilometers.

Hope this helps.
Amy

On 6/7/21, Vicki W.  wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a treadmill that can either be used with an accessible
app or touch screen on the treadmill itself, both options would be
great. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Vicki

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Re: looking for any suggestions on strong IPhone cables.

[Arlene]

That's right, you can get good iPhone cables at walmart, in fact we got the 
long cables, we're thinking they are 6 feet long. If I find we're wrong 
about that, I'll write back to correct that, but pretty sure they are 6 
feet.
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Subject: Re: looking for any suggestions on strong IPhone cables.


you can find good lightning cables at walmart. Their not the cheapest but 
they doo look good.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 11:40 PM
To: IPhone list
Subject: looking for any suggestions on strong IPhone cables.

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can please give me any suggestions on where I
can find any I Phone cables that don't break easily?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris

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Re: Thermostats for the Blind

[Arlene]

Where can you buy the tado? it sounds good. Thank you.
  - Original Message - 
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  To: VIPhone 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:58 AM
  Subject: Re: Thermostats for the Blind


  I have had the Tado thermostat for three or four years now. The app works 
with Voiceover to set schedules, alter the temperature etc. The Tado can track 
your movements and turn on or off automatically should nobody be at home. It 
also works with the Amazon Echo well and may well work with Google, but I have 
not tried this.


  On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:18:45 PM UTC+1 Mike B wrote:

Hi All,

I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm open 
to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't use this 
since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for our 2nd 
house and this Is why I need to be able to control it from anywhere.  All help 
is greatly appreciated.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

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Re: Music on my iPhone.

[Arlene]

Also you could put music in iTunes and stream to your phone and other apple 
devices.  you need to have good wifi. This way you could have exactly what 
you want to listen too.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Music on my iPhone.


If you want to stream music for free, use Spotify or Pandora.  If you
have Mp3 music files you can transfer them to your iPhone. Itunes can
be used to rip CD’s.

Kelly



On 5/18/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What do you do to subscribe to Apple Music?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Music on my iPhone.

Hi Carolyn, my suggestion to you, would be to subscribe to Apple Music. 
And

then you can search for stuff in the Apple Music app for what you want to
hear.


On May 18, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

First, I've never even tried to get any.

Second, how do I get music like I do on my computer, just get stuff to
play now and then?

I have an iPhone 11, with 14.5.1.

Thanks.


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Re: I'm worried I unsubscribed.

[Arlene]

Miaria, your message made it to the list.

Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Maria Heinrichs" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 8:16 PM
Subject: I'm worried I unsubscribed.


Hi. This is Maria. I'm worried I may have accidentally unsubscribed from 
the mailing list because I haven't gotten any e-mails lately. Can you 
please help me out with this? Thanks.


Maria

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Re: Scanning money

[Arlene]

Make sure that the camera is still on, because it's happened to us that 
somehow we would find out the camera turned off. I don't know how that could 
happen, but anything's possible, and it's something you wouldn't think would 
happen. I hope it starts work again for you.
- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2021 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning money


Are you talking about Eyenote?  What app do you say doesn't work any
more with 14.5.

On 5/7/21, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:

I installed it with 14.5 update and it worked and now it doesn't. I always
make sure that there is light and I tried it in three different rooms.

Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 08:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning money



If it worked then didn't, are you sure the lighting in the room was the
same?

I've never had it not work; though, as I write this, was it after 14.5
update that it stopped working?





Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



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On May 7, 2021, at 4:41 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. mailto:fiore...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Pete Sheppard
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 07:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Scanning money



It is usually in the about screen or the help screen on the app, usually 
the
last tab on the right at the bottom and that’s where you get to it 
normally
I don’t use iNote as it doesn’t do British currency apparently. But that 
is

where you usually find their contact details in most apps

On 7 May 2021, at 12:29, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. mailto:fiore...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Pete: how can I obtain their email?

Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Pete Sheppard
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 07:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Scanning money



That is exactly what happens to me in the seeing AI app. I’ve switch to 
cash

reader now and it’s fine so I know it isn’t the phone. I’ve emailed the
developers just to inform them, makes sense to do the same for iNote.


On 7 May 2021, at 10:33, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. mailto:fiore...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi: I used Eyenote a few days ago and it worked fine, now when I hold the
camera above currency, Eyenote says nothing. I re-installed the app and
nothing changed. Has anyone had this problem?

Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 10:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Scanning money



In the previous messages I do not think anyone mentioned that EyeNote is 
for

only US currency. Cash reader is for a large number of currencies.

Here is the info on it.

Cash Reader is free to download. The free version limits the 
identification

to the lowest two banknotes for each currency.
Full version identifies all banknotes for the growing number of 
currencies.

You can purchase the Full version within the app at any time.
See the app store page for updated currencies and languages.

Cash Reader on the App Store

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905









Richard

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discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



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On May 4, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > 

Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Arlene]

Mr. Ed, we agree. we have 4 iPhones and never had any trouble with them, until 
recently one of the iPhone's battery and screen had to be replaced, and that 
was done for $120 at batteries plus. We've had all 4  phones for 3 and a half 
years, and have taken excellent care of them. it's simple, that's all you have 
to do. 
Arlene and Wayne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mr. Ed 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2021 10:49 AM
  Subject: RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.


  Hi,

  To me paying 18 a month is pretty expensive. So if you pay $18 a month that 
is $216 a year and if you pay this for three years that come to $648. So to me 
you would almost be buying a new iPhone 12 in three years. In two year you 
would be shelling out $432. With that amount you could send it in an get 
anything fix and still be money ahead by not paying for insurance.

  Mr. Ed

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher
  Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2021 9:06 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

   

  Hello,

  It depends on the phone. For my iPhone 12 I pay $18 a month. For some of the 
Android phones my son has had it was %15 a month. 

   

  Greg Wocher

   





  On May 5, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

   

  Hi Greg,

   

  Thanks for your reply about T-Mobile insurance for your iPhone and your 
claims experience. How much do you pay for the insurance and is it monthly or a 
one time payment. It's hard to make a meaningful comparison with Apple Care 
Plus without knowing the cost.

   

  Alan Lemly 

   

  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS


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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Greg 
Wocher 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 5:43:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products. 

   

  Hello,
  I have T-Mobile as my carrier. I do get the insurance they offer because it 
lets me upgrade once a year. I have had to make a few claims for my son when he 
dropped his phone and shattered the screen. It went very well. I paid a 
deductible and they sent me a phone to replace the one he broke.

  Greg Wocher


  > On May 5, 2021, at 12:24 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
  > 
  > Hi Kelly,
  > 
  > I'm curious how much you pay for insurance coverage for your iPhone from 
your cell phone provider. And have you ever filed any claims with that coverage 
and if so, what was your experience?
  > 
  > Alan Lemly
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
  > Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:04 PM
  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
  > 
  > Apple Care Plus is too limiting. I used the insurance plan from my cell 
phone company. It covers theft as well as faults with the device and any 
accidental damage. It also offers an upgrade to the new iPhone version each 
year.
  > 
  > Kelly
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > On 5/4/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
  >> Have you ever tried to collect from a credit card insurance plan? I 
  >> have a
  >> $400 a year Aeroplan Infinite Vis card here in Canada which is one of 
  >> the best cards there is and once or twice I tried to use the insurance 
  >> features and each time they found something to turn down the claim. I 
  >> have the card because I get a ton of reward points through it, but I 
  >> find that many of the insurance options these cards claim to offer are 
greatly exaggerated.
  >> 
  >> -Original Message-
  >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
  >> Joe Orozco
  >> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:31 AM
  >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  >> Subject: Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
  >> 
  >> Check your credit card as well. I pay for my cell phone with the Uber 
  >> card, because it gives me phone insurance. There are cards with such a 
  >> protection as partof your perks.--Joe
  >> 
  >> On 5/4/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
  >>> You have a good point their Sieghard on the increased price.  Maybe 
  >>> it isn't worth it on the pro models.
  >>> I will check with our insurance, that is a good deal.
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> Richard
  >>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
  >>> but what they become by it."
  >>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
  >>> 
  >>> Web site: www.turner42.com
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> -Original Message-
  >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
  >>> Of Sieghard

Re: Scanning money

[Arlene]

No one hhas mentioned suppersense that has an identifying channel. Does anyone 
know if supersense can money from other countries besides the u.s.?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2021 5:47 AM
  Subject: Re: Scanning money


  If you are not having success with a newer currency, write 
seein...@microsoft.com 
  and ask them to add it.
  I always forget about their money identification channel.
  I'm glad Sieghard mentioned it as another free alternative that recognizes 
other currencies than just the US.







  Richard 
  "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


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On May 5, 2021, at 2:52 AM, Pete Sheppard  wrote:


Hey all

Does anyone have experience of successfully identifying any of the
newer plastic British notes? I find that Seeing AI fails me on this

Cheers

Pete


On 5/5/21, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:

  Hi: how do you get to the currency channel?







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of

  Sieghard Weitzel

  Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 01:44 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: RE: Scanning money







  And there also is the Seeing AI app which is free and has a currency

  channel.







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of

  Richard Turner

  Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:38 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Scanning money







  In the previous messages I do not think anyone mentioned that EyeNote is 
for

  only US currency. Cash reader is for a large number of currencies.



  Here is the info on it.



  Cash Reader is free to download. The free version limits the 
identification

  to the lowest two banknotes for each currency.

  Full version identifies all banknotes for the growing number of 
currencies.

  You can purchase the Full version within the app at any time.

  See the app store page for updated currencies and languages.

  


  Cash Reader on the App Store



  
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  On May 4, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:



  





  This is info from my web site:





  EyeNote money identifier from Bureau of Engraving and Printing, Free





  As of January 22, 2018, the updated EyeNote. 3.0 app is now 64-bit and 
works

  on Apple mobile devices that support iOS version 9.1 or greater. These

  include Apple iPhone. 5 and newer models, 5th generation iPod. Touch and

  later generations, and iPad.2 and newer models.



  *Utilizes VoiceOver for vocal and gesture feedback if it is turned on 
for

  the target iOS device.

  *Privacy mode communicates results with an audible beep or pulse 
pattern.

  *Runs without any special filters or background material

  *Does not require a data connection all processing on device

  *One touch, hand-held operation

  *Identifies face and back of note in any 

Re: Changing Voiceover help please.

[Arlene]

Janet, have you tried this with changing voices with voice over turned off? We 
had a simular situation about 3 years ago, and our friend was able to take care 
of it with voice over off.
  - Original Message - 
  From: janet gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:44 PM
  Subject: RE: Changing Voiceover help please.


  Hi Mike, 

  Thank you for this, but I’ve been doing that all day trying to get rid of 
this Siri 4, and I’ve shared screens with Apple, as they wanted to watch the 
steps I was doing, and they said yes I was doing it the right way, but still no 
go.  I can’t even select Tom or Fred, and I already have them downloaded.  It 
also shows Samantha is selected as my default.  For some odd reason, this Siri 
4 is stuck!  LOL!  I never had any problems changing voices before until now.  
The Apple rep said he will report this to the engineers, and call me back this 
coming Friday at 3:30 central time.  I’m hoping he will have a fix for this, as 
I can’t stand Siri 4!  

   

  Janet 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 7:31 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Changing Voiceover help please.

   

  Hi Janet,

   

  Try the following:

  1. Open Settings / Accessibility / VoiceOver 

   

  2. Swipe to, Speech, and do a single finger double tap to open.  You should 
hear something like, Voice Siri voice number button.  Do a single finger 
double tap to open this.

   

  3. Swipe to, Samantha and do a single finger double tap to open.  Now swipe 
to, Samantha and do a single finger double tap to select, and Samantha is now 
your VoiceOver voice.

  Note: In this same folder you'll probably have an option for Samantha 
enhanced if you want to download and try it.  To get to it just swipe passed 
the first Samantha option.

   

  Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

  - Original Message - 

  From: janet gross 

  To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 

  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 1:59 PM

  Subject: Changing Voiceover help please.

   

  Hi Everyone, 
  I recently updated my XR 10 phone to iOS 14.5, and I also changed Voiceover 
voice from Samantha to Siri 4, I don't like the Siri 4, and I want to change 
back to Samantha, but can't find any way to do this.  I did go back in to the 
speech settings, and I set Samantha back as the default, but Siri 4 is still 
speaking.  Can someone please tell me how I might change back to Samantha from 
Siri 4.  

  Thank you all in advance. 

  Janet  

  Peace Be With You. 


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Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice

[Arlene]

Someone was asking which Tom we use, it's Tom enhanced. We really like his 
voice. As I said we use Tom on nvda on the computer. Interestingly enough, 
Tom is used for the automated system for the phone carrier total wireless.
- Original Message - 
From: "Duane Steele" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice


Just an observation. I had used Alex for a while, and went back to Samantha. 
Today, because several of you have mentioned Tom, I decided to download and 
try Tom. I like this voice. However, when using my Braille device, and 
changing the braille output and input modes, I did notice that Tom doesn't 
pronounce the letter t in the words "outpuut and input". But otherwise, I 
like Tom's voice. Thanks.



Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194


On Apr 25, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Arlene  wrote:

We also use Tom on the iPhone, and also on nvda on the computer.
- Original Message - From: "Star Gazer" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice


Me too, I also use Tom enhanced

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 24, 2021, at 15:25, Richard Turner  
wrote:


I stopped using Alex because of those kind of strange pronunciation 
problems.
I use Tom Enhanced and don't find nearly the number of bad 
pronunciations.




Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
what they become by it."

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Web site: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice

Hello everyone,


I have the iPhone 12 mini. I have had it for a few months now. I love it! 
Before I got it, I was using the 10 XR.



Anyway, I have noticed something odd. I can't say for certain when I
first noticed it. And I am also not quite sure if it is somehow my
phone, or the Voiceover voice of Alex.


But I have noticed that some words sound odd to me. I can't think of any
examples at the moment. And for this I do apologize. It seems though
that letters sound as though they are dropped. Or that the word is not
written correctly. Now I do tend to mis-spell a good deal, and I have to
go back and correct stuff.

However, the other day i was sending a text with a word in it that ended
in the letters E, D. I can't remember what the word was now, or I would
have just written it. But when I read my text back to make sure it was
correct, I had to view the word character by character, to make sure it
was correct.

It was. But Alex spoke it as though the d wasn't there.


Has anyone else experienced this?

Does it happen with other voices?


I have tried other voices in the past. But I always come back to Alex.
It used to seem clearer to me.


What do you all think?


Any thoughts or suggestions are much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice

[Arlene]

We also use Tom on the iPhone, and also on nvda on the computer.
- Original Message - 
From: "Star Gazer" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice


Me too, I also use Tom enhanced

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 24, 2021, at 15:25, Richard Turner  
wrote:


I stopped using Alex because of those kind of strange pronunciation 
problems.

I use Tom Enhanced and don't find nearly the number of bad pronunciations.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice

Hello everyone,


I have the iPhone 12 mini. I have had it for a few months now. I love it! 
Before I got it, I was using the 10 XR.



Anyway, I have noticed something odd. I can't say for certain when I
first noticed it. And I am also not quite sure if it is somehow my
phone, or the Voiceover voice of Alex.


But I have noticed that some words sound odd to me. I can't think of any
examples at the moment. And for this I do apologize. It seems though
that letters sound as though they are dropped. Or that the word is not
written correctly. Now I do tend to mis-spell a good deal, and I have to
go back and correct stuff.

However, the other day i was sending a text with a word in it that ended
in the letters E, D. I can't remember what the word was now, or I would
have just written it. But when I read my text back to make sure it was
correct, I had to view the word character by character, to make sure it
was correct.

It was. But Alex spoke it as though the d wasn't there.


Has anyone else experienced this?

Does it happen with other voices?


I have tried other voices in the past. But I always come back to Alex.
It used to seem clearer to me.


What do you all think?


Any thoughts or suggestions are much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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questions concerning with ipad and with iPhone

[Arlene]

We recently got amazon prime and we're in the process of learning a lady. I 
almost wrote the name, and just in time I thought I better not. As we're 
learning we're using an iPad and our iPhones. some things we'd like to know is 
using a lady what are the differences with the iPhone and ipad verses the  
smart speakers. I went in to the app store to go through the a lady apps, which 
was just a little confusing for me now until we know a little more. It's a bit 
confusing since we got the shopping amazon app, and we were looking around that 
for a good while. Then having the prime amazon app we were exploring that, and 
that's where it had the link for  voice to talk to the a lady. I noticed there 
were a number of tv shows and movies you could listen too. Also were were 
thinking of tv shows to see if they were there , and the only one we ended up 
requesting was Marcus Welby md which was about $27, so that's good to know that 
you could buy favorite tv shows. As far as watching any tv shows or movies we 
wanted to know if descriptive video can be accessed or setup. We began setting 
up one of the a lady apps, and at first  I was going to get my voice 
personalized to a lady, and got stuck, and couldn't seem to proceed after the 
legal agreement, but since then Wayne's got it set to the place for his name 
and then mine for a lady to learn our voices. Any tips and experience would be 
very much appreciated. Thank you.

Arlene
and Wayne
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Re: WALTR and Softorino Support are excellent!

[Arlene]

Richard, what screen reader are you using with waltr? Thank you.
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 5:13 PM
  Subject: WALTR and Softorino Support are excellent!


  I know Klyph and others have proclaimed the positive features of WALTR2, but 
that was on the Mac and I use Windows.

   

  I had some moments in pursuing the WALTR Pro (soon to be released update of 
WALTR2,) trial for Windows and was close to giving up in frustration when 
Malcom Parfitt sent me their direct support email address.

   

  Malcolm also gave me some pointers about using it with Windows, but mostly 
the encouragement to stick with it.

   

  After writing them directly, and getting quick and helpful replies, I got the 
trial copy installed and saw that it could be a useful program.

   

  I then pursued buying a license for the WALTR Pro version which as they 
explained will be the updated version of WALTR2.  Once I got the license key 
for the Pro trial and entered it, it updated to the lifetime version.

   

  I decided the real test would be could I more easily transfer an audio book 
in zip format directly into Voice Dream Reader, wirelessly, than with iTunes 
File Sharing using cables.\

   

  The answer is a resounding YES!

   

  I used WALTR Pro to browse to the zip file on my computer and hit enter.

  I then had the choice of just sending it to my iPhone SE 2020 or pick which 
app I sent it to.

  I selected to choose the app, which is Voice Dream Reader.

  I hit OK.

  IN about 30 seconds, I heard the tone that meant it was transferred.

  I checked Voice Dream Reader, and it was there, but not yet available.

  Within 2 minutes, and I think perhaps less, it was available.  This was a 3.5 
hour zipped audio book.

   

  This took far less time and far less mucking about with iTunes to get to the 
file sharing and go through all that.

  Plus, no wires were used.

   

  I will try music that I want in my music library later and see how it does, 
but this is a great start and made the price of the software well worth it.

   

  Richard

  "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

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Re: Update was iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

[Arlene]

Congradulations with getting your new iPhone, Lisa. If you have a battery 
plus, batteries plus could put in a new battery in your older phone. this is 
something you may not be interested in now since you got your new phone and 
I should have written earlier about this. We had one of our iPhones that 
needed a new battery and screen and batteries plus did it for $120. It would 
have been cheaper than the $120, since the old batter swelled so that's why 
we needed a new screen for it. So if that battery hadn't swelled and all we 
needed was a new battery put it it only would have been about $70.
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From: "Lisa Belville" 

To: "V I Phone" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 2:46 PM
Subject: Update was iPhone 12 Pro Max questions


Hi, all. thanks for the opinions and advice regarding a new iPhone. I
would have replaced the battery in my original SE, but the last
certified store in my area that replaced iPhone batteries was Best Buy
and they closed in February.


I decided on the iPhone 12 Pro. the max was just too big for me.
Verizon had promotions on all of the iPhone 12 models for existing
customers, so that's what I went with.


Everything has been set up and transferred over.


I do have another question which I'll ask in a separate thread. So far,
though, I'm liking the phone and except for the nonexistent home button,
everything is working swimmingly.


Lisa


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Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

[Arlene]

We've had a much better experience with the barcode reading with supersense too.

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  From: Wayne Scott 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble


  I  have had horrible luck with the Seeing AI. Supersense AI is better. 


  Wayne Scott  



On Mar 30, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


The creator of Seeing AI recommends that once you have an idea what part 
of the package the bar code is located, you start with the camera 8 or 10 
inches away and slowly move closer.  If the bar card is there, it will start 
making a sound.
Or, while holding the camera about 8 to 10 inches away and if you are sure 
it is pointed to the package, start rotating the package slowly, you should 
hear something and when you do stop moving the package and slowly bring the 
camera closer.

The main tips for bar codes that I know are:
1.  on cans, it is usually near the seam in the label on the middle to 
lower portion of the can.

2.  ON packages that are plastic bags, like chocolate chips, it is also by 
the seam and you just have to move back and forth until you find it.

3.  ON boxes, it is usually on the bottom again near the seam, but not 
always.
   For example, Lean Cuisine frozen meals the bar code is on the back near 
a corner, where no seam exists.  You can tell it’s the back because the flaps 
that are glued down has the edge toward the bottom.

4.  On some soda cans, there are no labels, so you are on your own to just 
rotate the can until you find it.

Or, as someone else said, use the Short Text feature and read the label.
Though, sometimes, there is good extra information included in the bar code.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

Josh:

I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have 
better luck with the 'short text' feature to read the front of the label.

If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
code is usually to the left of the label seam on the bottom. 

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Re: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

[Arlene]

Debbie, thank you, for the web address for lyft. Thank you for this needed 
excellent information.

Arlene

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  From: Debby 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 5:08 AM
  Subject: RE: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution


  Hi Arlene,

   

  If you are still looking for solutions for this go to problem:

   

  http://www.lyft.com

   

  Go to “rider” then choose help. In there is the information for lost items 
including phones.

   

  Take care and stay safe!

   

  Debby 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 2:28 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

   

  If it’s an iphone then there is find my ipHone which she can log in to via 
the web browser on a computer,

   

  If it’s an android,

  There is a simplar product called (from memory) find my droid,

   

  Either tool can let you remotely connect to the device either sounding an 
alerm,

  Sending a message to it or remotely wiping the device so it’s not useable by 
anyone else.

  The android find my droid,

  I’m not sure of the details these daysbut there must be something on the net 
that your friend can check out.

   

  Good luck to her.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2021 7:46 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

   

  A friend wrote to me concerning accidently leaving her iPhone in a lyft car. 
Her insurance can't get in touch with lyft and the police say they can't do 
anything about it. I don't use this type of transportation so if this has 
happened to anyone else and how you were able to solve this with getting your 
phone returned to you, or if anyone knows what to do and or knows how to get in 
touch with lyft, please let me know and I'll pass the information on to her. I 
gave her the subscribing directions for subscribing to the list, but don't know 
if she'll get accepted and on to the list quick enough where this experience is 
concerned. Thank you for any helpful solutions.

   

  Arlene

   

   

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Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

[Arlene]

Brad, I really appreciate this infirmation since we still have the original se. 
Thank you.

Arlene


  - Original Message - 
  From: Brad Snyder 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions


  If you are using iOS 14, you should be aware there is a setting to minimize 
the appearance of the Phone app during a call, making it appear as a small 
banner, rather than the traditional full screen view with keypad visible.


  You can change this and restore the original appearance during calls as 
follows:
  1.  Go to Settings > Phone.
  2.  Swipe to Incoming Calls, and double tap to open.
  3.  Select Full Screen as your desired display style.


  HTH.


  - Brad -




  On Mar 11, 2021, at 08:01, Shirley Tracy  wrote:


  Thanks. I didn’t know that. 

  Have a great day.


  Shirley Tracy

  From: Richard Turner
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:48 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

  Yes. While on the call, you would need to pull the phone away from your ear 
because the screen won't respond if it is too close to your head, and so it may 
go on speaker which is good so you can hear VoiceOver. Open the phone app, and 
then double tap on the keypad tab.
  you can access any app on the phone while talking. Of course, if you have 
headphones on, that makes it easier.


  Richard

  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."
  "Why, what did she tell you?"
  "I don't know, I didn't listen."
  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy



On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:35 AM, Shirley Tracy  wrote:

 
Following the question you just answered for someone else on the list, I 
have a related query: Sometimes, I have a need to access the key pad after 
someone has called me on my IPhone. How can I open it while I’m already on the 
call? Is it even possible?

Tks.

Shirley Tracy

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

there is a setting under the VoiceOver settings, Audio called auto select 
speaker in call that should be on.
The description of that setting says, During audio calls, automatically 
switch to the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear.
Meaning that if you put the phone by your ear, and pull it away, it will 
automatically switch to speaker.
Or, if you just place your hand over the upper half of the phone and pull 
it away, it will switch to speaker.
The keypad should show up if you use Siri to place a call.
You can also open the phone app, and double tap on keypad which is the 4th 
tab along the bottom of the screen.
The two finger double tap to answer or hang up is a VoiceOver function. It 
will not work unless VoiceOver is active.
HTH,


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Well, if I understand your question. The speakerphone button is always 
present when the keypad is hidden. And the keypad is always front and center 
when on a call if you don't hide it. And as far as when she do use VoiceOver 
instead of Siri the only time that you have to worry about just using just a 
voiceover, is when you're not on a call. As you can't use her when you're on a 
phone call.
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Nancy Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the original I phone SE.  I mainly use it to make and receive 
calls.
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to know 4 things.
>> 
>> 1.  What is the easiest way to turn on the speaker phone function?
>> 
>> 2. What is the easiest way to bring the number pad on the screen?I would 
be happy if the number screen was always front and center.
>> 
>> 3.  Is there a way to set the SE so the speaker phone and number pad 
would be front and center when I use the phone?
>> 
>> 4. When should I use VoiceOver instead of siri?
>> 
>> 
>> I only use siri to make calls and use a split finger double tap to 
answer and hang up.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for any and all help!
 

Re: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

[Arlene]

Hi, Simon, and, everyone, great news to tell you all. My friend's iPhone was 
returned to her by way of the driver bringing it back to her. I don't know the 
details of how all this happened, meaning if the driver found her phone in his 
car and looked to find any contact information in her phone. She told me 
someone contacted him, so as I said I don't know the details about all of how 
she got her phone returned to her, the most important thing is that she has it. 
I'm just beginning to go through email now this morning so I want to thank 
Simon, and all of you that responded to my message. I'll copy the messages so 
she can read any tips and advice given, and send it to her, and keep all these 
messages in case information like this is needed again. My friend thanks all of 
you as well.

Arlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:28 AM
  Subject: RE: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution


  If it’s an iphone then there is find my ipHone which she can log in to via 
the web browser on a computer,

   

  If it’s an android,

  There is a simplar product called (from memory) find my droid,

   

  Either tool can let you remotely connect to the device either sounding an 
alerm,

  Sending a message to it or remotely wiping the device so it’s not useable by 
anyone else.

  The android find my droid,

  I’m not sure of the details these daysbut there must be something on the net 
that your friend can check out.

   

  Good luck to her.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2021 7:46 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

   

  A friend wrote to me concerning accidently leaving her iPhone in a lyft car. 
Her insurance can't get in touch with lyft and the police say they can't do 
anything about it. I don't use this type of transportation so if this has 
happened to anyone else and how you were able to solve this with getting your 
phone returned to you, or if anyone knows what to do and or knows how to get in 
touch with lyft, please let me know and I'll pass the information on to her. I 
gave her the subscribing directions for subscribing to the list, but don't know 
if she'll get accepted and on to the list quick enough where this experience is 
concerned. Thank you for any helpful solutions.

   

  Arlene

   

   

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question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

[Arlene]

A friend wrote to me concerning accidently leaving her iPhone in a lyft car. 
Her insurance can't get in touch with lyft and the police say they can't do 
anything about it. I don't use this type of transportation so if this has 
happened to anyone else and how you were able to solve this with getting your 
phone returned to you, or if anyone knows what to do and or knows how to get in 
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Re: Moving a Book From the Dropbox Folder to the Books App?

[Arlene]

Thank you for this information, Richard.
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Moving a Book From the Dropbox Folder to the Books App?


Dwayne, That is why I do not buy books through Apple. I used to buy them 
through Audible, but now use a service called Libro.fm which has the same 
books as Audible, minus the Audible originals, and you can download them as 
MP3 files with no DRM, so you can listen with Voice Dream Reader, or their 
own app which is quite accessible.
The price might be a little higher than audible, because they do not have a 
yearly price, just $14.95 per month, but you can suspednd your membership 
any time and the books are yours to keep.

Later,


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Feb 7, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:

VoiceDream Reader's the easiest solution in the world for reading books. 
I only wish I could move books from the Books APP to Voice Dream Reader. 
It's one of the most awesome APPS I have ever seen.



Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Feb 7, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


But, if it is an m4b book, you could add it to iTunes, and sync your 
device, and I suspect it will be available either in Apple Books or under 
music, but in the book category. Or, if you have Voice Dream Reader, just 
import it there where you can play it quite easily.



Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
mother told me when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 7, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Duane Steele  
wrote:


Since Apple owns the Books APP, and because Apple doesn't want outside 
sources to use its APP, it's my understanding that you can't move books 
or any other files from Dropbox directly into the Books APP. Sorry.



Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Feb 7, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Gerardo Corripio  
wrote:


I’m wondeirng the same thing too; especially for books in MP3 in which 
there are separate MP3s for each chapter, how do you make it so the 
Books apps knows that each Chapter is separate?


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 7 feb 2021, a la(s) 1:17 p.m., 'Donald Moore' via VIPhone 
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Using IOS14 current version, how might you move a book from Dropbox 
to the

Books App?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Replacing iPhone screen

[Arlene]

Max, I didn't know you are in austrailia. If you could find a simular store 
there as batteries plus, they will do the work. I wish I could suggest a 
store and knew about the stores there. I hope you can find a good store.
- Original Message - 
From: "Agent086b" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing iPhone screen


Hi,
I think that would be US $. I am in Australia.
Thanks anyway.
Max.


On 8 Feb 2021, at 7:52 am, Richard Turner  
wrote:


Hi,
On the official apple support page, it says it costs $279.
Assuming you are out of warranty, I'd check with local smart phone repair 
places to see if they are less expensive.
The link I found the above price at is 
https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/screen-replacement


HTH

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.



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Agent086b

Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 12:36 PM
To: iPhone List > 
Subject: Replacing iPhone screen

Hi all,
I walked into the corner of a cupboard with the phone in my pocket and 
cracked the screen.
I have an iPhoneXs. With this damage I can not use face ID so must keep 
entering my password every time I wish to do something!
From what I can see Apple will charge about $440.00 for a new screen. I 
have seen some other places quoting about $240.00. Is there a problem 
using cheeper screens in iPhones? I will check with my insurance company 
to see if I can claim on my accidental damage policy.

Thanks for any advice.
Max.

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Re: Replacing iPhone screen

[Arlene]

I can tell you our experience with a se 1, the battery went bad and messed 
up the screen. We didn't shop around, what we did was go to batteries plus 
and got a new battery and screen for $120. That would be a place to check. 
No troubles with the screen now, it works the same.
- Original Message - 
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To: "iPhone List >" 
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 2:35 PM
Subject: Replacing iPhone screen


Hi all,
I walked into the corner of a cupboard with the phone in my pocket and 
cracked the screen.
I have an iPhoneXs. With this damage I can not use face ID so must keep 
entering my password every time I wish to do something!
From what I can see Apple will charge about $440.00 for a new screen. I have 
seen some other places quoting about $240.00. Is there a problem using 
cheeper screens in iPhones? I will check with my insurance company to see if 
I can claim on my accidental damage policy.

Thanks for any advice.
Max.

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Re: Calendar question.

[Arlene]

Brad, thank you for these instructions for the calendar.

Arlene
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 5:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Calendar question.


  Assuming you are on your iPhone:
  1.  Open the calendar entry, and select Edit in the upper right corner of the 
screen.
  2.  Navigate to Invitee, and double tap to open.
  3.  Here you will find a list of Invitees.  Select the Invitee you want to 
remove, and swipe up until you hear voiceOver speak “Remove”, and double tap to 
execute the action.
  4.  Select the Back button, in the upper left corner of the screen, to return 
to the Edit Calendar Event screen.
  5.  Once back in the Edit Calendar Event screen, select the Done button, in 
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  On Jan 29, 2021, at 17:01, Jenny Bomareto 
 wrote:


  Hello all,


  Do you know how with the calendar you can share with just more than one 
person for an appointment well I want to take one of the people off because I 
don’t feel it’s necessary for this person to be in there anymore. So how do I 
delete the name on the calendar so she doesn’t get the notifications. Thank you 
so much and advance.


  Thanks for your prompt attention!

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Re: Identifying barcodes

[Arlene]

That gives me more understanding, Donna, thank you, that was something I 
didn't know. It's just after all this time, and it seems so tremendous being 
able to read cooking directions with the bar codes which is really great, I 
started thinking how something was so missing, and that was the experation 
dates. Thanks again.
- Original Message - 
From: "Donna Casteen" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes


Also expiration dates are stamped on products not printed. There is times in 
which the ink smears, the writing has faded. Until it is mandated that 
expiration dates be placed on an item, on the same spot for all products & a 
better expiration date is adopted, there is no way for a blind person to be 
able to read the expiration dates on products.


Donna



Sadly, I do not think you will ever see expiration dates in barcones. 
Barcodes identify the general product, not that individual package. But 
you would probably have to contact the manufacturer to find out if 
something could be done. According to my wife, there is little consistancy 
of placement of expiration dates and it is hard for even sighted people to 
find them.



Richard

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On Jan 20, 2021, at 3:38 AM, Ann  wrote:

hmm, you know, as for Seeing AI, I don't think I've ever seen expiration 
dates for anything listed in the bar code info.


~Ann




On 1/20/2021 4:15 AM, Arlene wrote:
I do hope supersense and other ocr apps eventually can read experation 
dates which is quite important. I don't know if there's some sort of 
technical reason why experation dates can't be read, but I hope that's 
something that can be worked out.

- Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes

Hi all,
I also wanted to elaborate on Supersense a bit. We're working on
adding cooking directions, since that is a crucial set of information
that can be obtained with a little cross-research after identifying a
barcode.
I've also noticed that from my personal experience, Supersense tends
to recognize more products in my pantry than the other apps I've
tried.

On 1/19/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:

It will give you whatever info is contained within the bar code.

Andy

 - Original Message -
 From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 7:15 AM
 Subject: RE: Identifying barcodes


 Will Seeing AI give you directions for cooking in addition to just
identifying the product?  This is a feature I heavily use on my 
barcode

scanner (galaxy).



 Pam





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of

Holly
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes



 Don:



 Seeing A I has improved their bar code scanner, and it is quite good.



 It is also free.



 Super
 Sense is also pretty good, but it is a paid app.

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Re: Identifying barcodes

[Arlene]

Richard, I've heard from my sister and sighted friends that the print is 
really tiny for the experation dates. While I wouldn't mind writing to the 
different companies that do ocr, whether it be apps or computer ocr, maybe 
I'm asking a question that doesn't make sense in a way, actually I don't 
know how to put my questioning, sorry about that, but is there some 
technical reason that you know of that  the experation dates don't come up 
in the scanning? I mean experation dates are just as important as cooking 
directions on a box, well in the samecatagory of importantance. Sorry if I'm 
not making sense. I do want to think you for giving it a try as far as 
seeing if you could get the experation date, I think that may have been 
about 2 or 3 weeks or so when it last came up.
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes


Sadly, I do not think you will ever see expiration dates in barcones. 
Barcodes identify the general product, not that individual package. But you 
would probably have to contact the manufacturer to find out if something 
could be done. According to my wife, there is little consistancy of 
placement of expiration dates and it is hard for even sighted people to find 
them.



Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Jan 20, 2021, at 3:38 AM, Ann  wrote:

hmm, you know, as for Seeing AI, I don't think I've ever seen expiration 
dates for anything listed in the bar code info.


~Ann




On 1/20/2021 4:15 AM, Arlene wrote:
I do hope supersense and other ocr apps eventually can read experation 
dates which is quite important. I don't know if there's some sort of 
technical reason why experation dates can't be read, but I hope that's 
something that can be worked out.

- Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes

Hi all,
I also wanted to elaborate on Supersense a bit. We're working on
adding cooking directions, since that is a crucial set of information
that can be obtained with a little cross-research after identifying a
barcode.
I've also noticed that from my personal experience, Supersense tends
to recognize more products in my pantry than the other apps I've
tried.

On 1/19/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:

It will give you whatever info is contained within the bar code.

Andy

  - Original Message -
  From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 7:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Identifying barcodes


  Will Seeing AI give you directions for cooking in addition to just
identifying the product?  This is a feature I heavily use on my barcode
scanner (galaxy).



  Pam





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of

Holly
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes



  Don:



  Seeing A I has improved their bar code scanner, and it is quite good.



  It is also free.



  Super
  Sense is also pretty good, but it is a paid app.

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Re: Identifying barcodes

[Arlene]

I do hope supersense and other ocr apps eventually can read experation dates 
which is quite important. I don't know if there's some sort of technical 
reason why experation dates can't be read, but I hope that's something that 
can be worked out.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shane Lowe" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes



Hi all,
I also wanted to elaborate on Supersense a bit. We're working on
adding cooking directions, since that is a crucial set of information
that can be obtained with a little cross-research after identifying a
barcode.
I've also noticed that from my personal experience, Supersense tends
to recognize more products in my pantry than the other apps I've
tried.

On 1/19/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:

It will give you whatever info is contained within the bar code.

Andy

  - Original Message -
  From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 7:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Identifying barcodes


  Will Seeing AI give you directions for cooking in addition to just
identifying the product?  This is a feature I heavily use on my barcode
scanner (galaxy).



  Pam





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Holly
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes



  Don:



  Seeing A I has improved their bar code scanner, and it is quite good.



  It is also free.



  Super
  Sense is also pretty good, but it is a paid app.

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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Arlene]

Thank you, for telling about your experiences with the glass, way too expensive 
for me. As much as I appreciate all the scanning apps, and also scanning 
software for the computer, it would be really wonderful if being able to read 
the experation dates on products could be done or worked on. Possibly there may 
be something I'm not aware of, for example if any of the scanning apps or even 
softward can read the experation dates, that again I'm not aware of, and or 
there may be some technical reason why it's not possible. Though I wish being 
able to read the experation dates could be possible and truly worked on. It's 
really, really important. Unfortunately even the scanners such as the id mate 
can't seem to read that information and it's very much needed information, even 
if you have some general knowledge of how long a product lasts, along with all 
the other important product information that can be read by the scanning apps, 
scanning software for the computer and the hand held scanners.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 
  From: kitty hevener 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:58 PM
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai


  Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

  With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such 
as chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

   

  Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

   

  I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

  So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

   

  Kitty,

  I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

   

  Thanks,

   

   

  Richard, in the U.S.

   

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was young."

  "Why, what did she tell you?"

  "I don't know, I didn't listen."

  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

   

a.. I’m not the card shark
b.. My web site, www.turner42.com
   

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hevener
  Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

   

  

need help with downloading a file sent by an iPhone

[Arlene]

 have 2 files that my sister sent me, one of the files was sent from her iPhone 
to this email address that I do email with on the computer. With this file 
there doesn't seem to be anyway for me to download the file, it just says in 
the body of the message sent by my iPhone. Would I be able to get this file if 
she sent it to the email on my iPhone? The second file has a download link of 
which I pressed enter on, and it went to the cloud page. It asked me if I 
wanted to save the file so I did ault-s to save it, but I didn't find it in my 
documents or downloads here on the computer. Would I be able to get this file 
if I forwarded to the email address on my phone. Thank you for any help.

Arlene

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Re: My download speed on my Xr his way down any ideas?

[Arlene]

When it comes to cable companies unless they have a true fiber connection to 
offer you the quality of service can be all over the place. Even if they do 
offer fiber, it might not be as good a offering as other companies. For 
example we have earthlink and our speeds are a semetric, meaning that they 
furnish one gig outgoing and one gig incoming at all times. Yes we gave up 
cox cable the 14th of february of this year. Another company that claims to 
offer the same service as earthlink in our neighborhood is at fiber. Well 
a little food for thought and something to think about. In your trouble 
shooting here's something you should check first, this is in our router and 
should be in most routers. Once you log into the router find the speed test 
and check it. If it's correct you've eliminated one thing. Without knowing 
this information you don't know if you're getting the service you're paying 
for. If you are getting the right service you might have a device that isn't 
operating correctly. I wish I was there and I would get it sorted out 
quickly, but I think you can do it.

Wayne

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: My download speed on my Xr his way down any ideas?


No. I have not reset my network settings. I did find out that my husband who 
has a Mac which is also on Wi-Fi, his Mac is getting very slow results too. 
And that Mac has not been updated in a while. So I have a feeling it must 
have something to do with the router. But then why would LTE on the phone be 
affected? It’s really very weird. And it’s beyond my pay grade.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


Have you tried reseting just network settings?
Maybe it just needs a kick in the pants.
I think we are not paying for much speed.
It is fast enough for what I do.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
Edward Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My download speed on my Xr his way down any ideas?

Well, I guess it depends on what speed you’re paying for. We just changed 
plans, and strangely enough, the cheaper plan had a better Internet speed. 
It’s 600 that we are supposed to get. Now I never get that over Wi-Fi. But 
I am in the hundreds, or should be. So I just don’t know.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


I just tested my SE 2020 with the speedtest app and the download speed 
is 119 Megabits per second.  Upload 5.99 MegaBitsPperSsecond.
I  don't often do this, so have no idea if those numbers are decent or 
not.


We also have Comcast/Xfinity.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
Edward Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 5:33 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: My download speed on my Xr his way down any ideas?

Something strange is going on with download speed here. On this phone, 
whether or not I am on LTE or on my Wi-Fi, speed is much less than usual. 
This is with iOS 14. I use the speed test app. Usually, my download over 
the LTE is somewhere just north of 100 mbps. And if I’m on my Wi-Fi 
network, it’s considerably more than that. The fact that both speeds are 
way down from where they should be makes me think there’s something going 
on with the phone. Checked my 7+, and it’s download speed is also way 
down on Wi-Fi. That one doesn’t have a Sim, so I can’t check LTE. It’s 
not my cable, because I have a computer with a wired connection, and it’s 
getting over 600 which is what it should get. So it’s not Comcast. I’m 
really at a loss. I have an Orby mesh system which has worked very well 
since we got it a couple of years ago. The app is still working, and it 
appears everything is online as it should be. But this is really screwed 
up.



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Re: Exercise bikes

[Arlene]

Simon, do you know about the accessibility part of it? Idealy if it were 
possible, in an app it would be really great if I could keep track of my 
heart rate, keeping track of the number of miles and anything else that I 
can't remember now that my friend and I use to keep track of when we rode 
the exercise bikes in an apartment building where I lived about 7 years ago. 
I think the other item we kept track of was the speed. Anyway for some 
individuals the distance in miles may not be important, but to my friend and 
I it was interesting to keep track of as well as the other details.
- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:33 PM
Subject: RE: Exercise bikes


If you have lots of money to spend,

There is a range of cycle machines that utilise real bikes and also use 
iPads to allow the riders to cycle virtually with each other  through the 
app on the ipad,


They have just done this with the Tour de France this year due to covid,

Very very coold systems but not cheap.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2020 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Exercise bikes

Also, if you already have an exercise bike, like this WSJ article points 
out, you can adapt it to have Internet connectivity. 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/peloton-schmelotonheres-how-to-turn-your-bike-into-a-connected-workout-station-11595163600?mod=pls_whats_news_us_business_f

Caveats of levels of accessibility apply and all that.
Like anything, just depends on how much you want to spend.
I've got a Nautilus treadmill which has an iOS app. The app is completely VO 
accessible, but it's only for reviewing workout stats. They also make a line 
of exercise bikes which I'm sure has a similar app set up. If you're looking 
for something where you can control or choose a program from within the app, 
that, I'm not aware of. If there is a bike like that out there, I'd be 
interested in knowing. We've got an old Schwinn recumbent model which works 
well enough, but I'd probably want to go for something similar to the 
Nautilus where I can at least review my numbers.

Good luck.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Exercise bikes

Then your looking in the wrong places,

I've seen them here in NZ for around the 2 grand mark but that was a higher 
end device,


It really does depend on what it is you are trying to do.

The other thing is you can use a standard bicycle on a cycle erg,  So you 
can get them so you sit the back wheel on the roller and the wheel is locked 
in to  place  and use the gearing on the bike to change your resistance 
levels, And there are some which have resistance on the roller as well.


Or you can get the ergs that you take the front wheel off and lock the 
forks on  to a bracket that holds the front in place while again the back 
wheel sits on a roller  and spins as you pedal.


But yes if you have an apple watch it can give you HR and time etc 
measurements But you can also get caidence / speed computers that cost very 
little but have to be put on the bikes to measue what speed and distances 
you are cycling.


I have my own road bike on a cycle erg that the back wheel locks in to and 
I use gears for resistance, I have my apple watch to measure some things and 
a caidance meter to measure speed and RPM from the back wheel,  these are 
fed into an app on my phone which is from a company called wahoo,and that 
also talks to my HR monitor which is again a wahoo device and gives a better 
reading than the watch does,


it really depends on what you wantto spend or do as to what it costs you.

When I cycle I take it pretty seriously, but that's just because it's 
something I've done for years.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Exercise bikes

And if you are looking for a consumer grade bike which supports Gym Kit, 
Apple's developer kit or interface for such things then good luck, I did not 
find one under $10,000 which means it's really designed for professional 
gyms.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Exercise bikes

We bought a spin bike last fall and decided to get just a basic model 
without any connectivity because both my wife and I have Apple Watches which 
we use with the indoor cycle workout to track time, heart rate and calories.
Yes, some bikes keep track of a virtual distance, but who really cares if 
the bike says you biked 6 miles or 10 miles, I am after a good workout and 
for that my heart rate and calories burned are more important. I don't know 
how 

Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

[Arlene]

I'm glad that someone is telling everyone where the information is in your i 
devices
because it's very important that you have all this information, including 
you're

imei number, model number, even curret phone number. Actually write
downw this information in at least, more than one copy written on a 
nonelectronic device. once again, if you're going to secure
your apple devices from people that would steal them, you must make them 
completely
useless if they do get stolen. however at this time this isn't the case. If 
the ones
that steal the devices can't use them they can definitely sell them for 
parts. But
if apple were to impliment my idea in future products, in the future, there 
would
be no need to sell them for parts because all the device and all the parts 
in it
would be bricked, and the only company that could do anything about it would 
be apple.
At this time, with all current devices that isn't the case. In my opinion 
this would
be complete security. Yeah, with your face id and your touch id and 
password, they
may not be able to get into your phone, but they could still teer it up and 
use it

for parts, such as your screen and other parts.

Wayne




- Original Message - 
From: "Fazil" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


All of this info is available in Settings, General and then About.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

When you buy an iPhone you have a receipt showing where you bought it, your 
model number, and serial number, and any other unique identifiable 
information. This wouldn't work at this time, to be successful it would have 
to be inplimented in future apple products.

- Original Message -
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Wayne,

Nice thought,
But how does apple know that you are the real owner of the phone if you go 
back to them to get the device unbricked?

Assuming you were able to get it back from the purp

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2020 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

It's kind of like this when it comes to tracking your phone, let's suppose 
that the guy that steals the iPhone does it for a few different reasons.
Maybe he needs a new screen or if he needs a new battery. I think you're 
getting the idea.If you do what I suggested before about sending a message 
for a brick command you could have a brick all command that would brick all 
the conpponents in the phone, once again, only apple could unbrick all this.
I believe once word got around that criminals wouldn't be so interested in 
stealing phones unless they just like taking things from people.

Wayne

- Original Message -
From: "Ed Worrell" 
To: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Hello All,

This is an interesting thread.

You can use iCloud to lock your phone and track it with the Find My App from 
any device. You can simply log-in to https://icloud.com and lock the device 
remotely and see it’s last location and  when it was either connected to 
Wifi or Cellular.


Ed



On Jun 30, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Why not, Siri, launch MFI Hearing or something like that?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

Kenny, It would be good to say something to Siri that would be silly
that wouldn't mean anything to anyone, especially that person that
just grabbed your iPhone, such as some stupid phraise like "siri, grab
my loaf of bread.". This could be the shortcut to start working, if it
could be possible. Keep up the brainstorming. in a situation as this
it would be good to have something inplace.
- Original Message -
From: "Kenny" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Yes, I do understand that screaming a specific phrase to trigger Siri
Shortcuts would be problematic, especially when the perp is running
away from you.


Guess I'm brainstorming some ideas to rely on Siri to protect me, and
my iPhone when traveling alone.


These iOS Workflow shortcuts are really powerful. Using the ReddIt
link shared on this thread I'm learning more and more about them. Hope
to come up with something on my own I can share with the community.


On 6/29/2020 10:24 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Kenny,

 I’m not going to say your cr

Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

[Arlene]

When you buy an iPhone you have a receipt showing where you bought it, your 
model number, and serial number, and any other unique identifiable 
information. This wouldn't work at this time, to be successful it would have 
to be inplimented in future apple products.
- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Wayne,

Nice thought,
But how does apple know that you are the real owner of the phone if you go 
back to them to get the device unbricked?

Assuming you were able to get it back from the purp

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2020 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

It's kind of like this when it comes to tracking your phone, let's suppose 
that the guy that steals the iPhone does it for a few different reasons.
Maybe he needs a new screen or if he needs a new battery. I think you're 
getting the idea.If you do what I suggested before about sending a message 
for a brick command you could have a brick all command that would brick all 
the conpponents in the phone, once again, only apple could unbrick all this.
I believe once word got around that criminals wouldn't be so interested in 
stealing phones unless they just like taking things from people.

Wayne

- Original Message -
From: "Ed Worrell" 
To: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Hello All,

This is an interesting thread.

You can use iCloud to lock your phone and track it with the Find My App from
any device. You can simply log-in to https://icloud.com and lock the device
remotely and see it’s last location and  when it was either connected to
Wifi or Cellular.

Ed



On Jun 30, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Why not, Siri, launch MFI Hearing or something like that?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

Kenny, It would be good to say something to Siri that would be silly that
wouldn't mean anything to anyone, especially that person that just grabbed
your iPhone, such as some stupid phraise like "siri, grab my loaf of
bread.". This could be the shortcut to start working, if it could be
possible. Keep up the brainstorming. in a situation as this it would be
good to have something inplace.
- Original Message -
From: "Kenny" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Yes, I do understand that screaming a specific phrase to trigger Siri
Shortcuts would be problematic, especially when the perp is running away
from you.


Guess I'm brainstorming some ideas to rely on Siri to protect me, and my
iPhone when traveling alone.


These iOS Workflow shortcuts are really powerful. Using the ReddIt link
shared on this thread I'm learning more and more about them. Hope to come
up with something on my own I can share with the community.


On 6/29/2020 10:24 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Kenny,

 I’m not going to say your crazy,
Because you're probably thinking of something others are also thinking
of.

 How to do it would be the crazy thing!

 I'm personally thinking what you are looking to do must be possible
but I'm not sure you could do it with a Hey siri shortcut request if
the jerkoff that just grabbed your phone is doing a runner.

 And thinking that if I grabbed a mobile device and started running,
I'd have it in one hand and that would be by my side as my arms pumped
as runners do!

You would have road noise possibly to take in to consideration, Other
background noises The runner might have put your phone in to their
pocket to free hands or make themselves look les like a running
scumbag!

And of course your idea of the photo of the face depends on if the
phone is being looked at, which they would do I'm sure once they were
away from anyone following them!


However if you have an apple watch especially one of the LTE models,
Could you not do some of this stuff from find my iphone via the watch?
Find my iPhone I've used to locate my watch from my phone so somewhat
around the opposite way to what you are looking for,

 But you could trigger an alarm,
 Lock the phone or wipe it if needed,
 I'm not sure about photos but there must be something that could
give you that ability, Infact I think there is built in to the watch
but it's from the phones camera so you can hold the phone up with the
camera looking at something and view it on the watch screen!


The other thing is if you use a caine you could throw it at the scumbag
like a javlyn / speer,
Or if it's a broken down in to sections folding cain, 

Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

[Arlene]

It's kind of like this when it comes to tracking your phone, let's suppose 
that the guy that steals the iPhone does it for a few different reasons. 
Maybe he needs a new screen or if he needs a new battery. I think you're 
getting the idea.If you do what I suggested before about sending a message 
for a brick command you could have a brick all command that would brick all 
the conpponents in the phone, once again, only apple could unbrick all this. 
I believe once word got around that criminals wouldn't be so interested in 
stealing phones unless they just like taking things from people.

Wayne

- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Worrell" 

To: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Hello All,

This is an interesting thread.

You can use iCloud to lock your phone and track it with the Find My App from 
any device. You can simply log-in to https://icloud.com and lock the device 
remotely and see it’s last location and  when it was either connected to 
Wifi or Cellular.


Ed



On Jun 30, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Why not, Siri, launch MFI Hearing or something like that?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

Kenny, It would be good to say something to Siri that would be silly that 
wouldn't mean anything to anyone, especially that person that just grabbed 
your iPhone, such as some stupid phraise like "siri, grab my loaf of 
bread.". This could be the shortcut to start working, if it could be 
possible. Keep up the brainstorming. in a situation as this it would be 
good to have something inplace.

- Original Message -
From: "Kenny" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Yes, I do understand that screaming a specific phrase to trigger Siri 
Shortcuts would be problematic, especially when the perp is running away 
from you.



Guess I'm brainstorming some ideas to rely on Siri to protect me, and my 
iPhone when traveling alone.



These iOS Workflow shortcuts are really powerful. Using the ReddIt link 
shared on this thread I'm learning more and more about them. Hope to come 
up with something on my own I can share with the community.



On 6/29/2020 10:24 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Kenny,

 I’m not going to say your crazy,
Because you're probably thinking of something others are also thinking 
of.


 How to do it would be the crazy thing!

 I'm personally thinking what you are looking to do must be possible
but I'm not sure you could do it with a Hey siri shortcut request if
the jerkoff that just grabbed your phone is doing a runner.

 And thinking that if I grabbed a mobile device and started running,
I'd have it in one hand and that would be by my side as my arms pumped
as runners do!

You would have road noise possibly to take in to consideration, Other
background noises The runner might have put your phone in to their
pocket to free hands or make themselves look les like a running
scumbag!

And of course your idea of the photo of the face depends on if the
phone is being looked at, which they would do I'm sure once they were
away from anyone following them!


However if you have an apple watch especially one of the LTE models,
Could you not do some of this stuff from find my iphone via the watch?
Find my iPhone I've used to locate my watch from my phone so somewhat
around the opposite way to what you are looking for,

 But you could trigger an alarm,
 Lock the phone or wipe it if needed,
 I'm not sure about photos but there must be something that could
give you that ability, Infact I think there is built in to the watch
but it's from the phones camera so you can hold the phone up with the
camera looking at something and view it on the watch screen!


The other thing is if you use a caine you could throw it at the scumbag
like a javlyn / speer,
Or if it's a broken down in to sections folding cain, throw it at their
legs as they run so it might trip them and then you could kick the shit
out of them while they lye there trying to free themselves,

 Or if you use a dog, teach it to chase the bad guy like a police dog!
That one I'd like to see happen!

Sorry most of this isn't going to do what you are looking for but just
some ideas looking from a somewhat different angle

Good luck and I hope you can figure something out
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Kenny
Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

I'm not sure if this is possible, but I wanted to pose the question to 
the

list to find out.


I own an iPhone 8 running iOS 13.5.1.


Here's the scenario. You're using your i

Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

[Arlene]

Kenny, It would be good to say something to Siri that would be silly that 
wouldn't mean anything to anyone, especially that person that just grabbed 
your iPhone, such as some stupid phraise like "siri, grab my loaf of 
bread.". This could be the shortcut to start working, if it could be 
possible. Keep up the brainstorming. in a situation as this it would be good 
to have something inplace.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kenny" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Yes, I do understand that screaming a specific phrase to trigger Siri
Shortcuts would be problematic, especially when the perp is running away
from you.


Guess I'm brainstorming some ideas to rely on Siri to protect me, and my
iPhone when traveling alone.


These iOS Workflow shortcuts are really powerful. Using the ReddIt link
shared on this thread I'm learning more and more about them. Hope to
come up with something on my own I can share with the community.


On 6/29/2020 10:24 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Kenny,

  I’m not going to say your crazy,
Because you're probably thinking of something others are also thinking of.

  How to do it would be the crazy thing!

  I'm personally thinking what you are looking to do must be possible but 
I'm not sure you could do it with a Hey siri shortcut request if the 
jerkoff that just grabbed your phone is doing a runner.


  And thinking that if I grabbed a mobile device and started running, I'd 
have it in one hand and that would be by my side as my arms pumped as 
runners do!


You would have road noise possibly to take in to consideration,
Other background noises
The runner might have put your phone in to their pocket to free hands or 
make themselves look les like a running scumbag!


And of course your idea of the photo of the face depends on if the phone 
is being looked at, which they would do I'm sure once they were away from 
anyone following them!



However if you have an apple watch especially one of the LTE models,
Could you not do some of this stuff from find my iphone via the watch?
Find my iPhone I've used to locate my watch from my phone so somewhat 
around the opposite way to what you are looking for,


  But you could trigger an alarm,
  Lock the phone or wipe it if needed,
  I'm not sure about photos but there must be something that could give 
you that ability,
Infact I think there is built in to the watch but it's from the phones 
camera so you can hold the phone up with the camera looking at something 
and view it on the watch screen!



The other thing is if you use a caine you could throw it at the scumbag 
like a javlyn / speer,
Or if it's a broken down in to sections folding cain, throw it at their 
legs as they run so it might trip them and then you could kick the shit 
out of them while they lye there trying to free themselves,


  Or if you use a dog, teach it to chase the bad guy like a police dog!
That one I'd like to see happen!

Sorry most of this isn't going to do what you are looking for but just 
some ideas looking from a somewhat different angle


Good luck and I hope you can figure something out
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kenny

Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

I'm not sure if this is possible, but I wanted to pose the question to the 
list to find out.



I own an iPhone 8 running iOS 13.5.1.


Here's the scenario. You're using your iPhone while waiting outside for
an Uber pickup, then a thief snatches it out of your hand. They take off
running. You have only a few seconds to react, but normally you start
screaming "STOP THIEF" or something too that affect immediately.


How about you could simply say the phrase "Hey Siri: STOP THIEF"


Then Siri would do the following on your iPhone:

1. Activate the front camera and take a picture.

2. Activate the back camera and take a picture.

3. Upload a copy of those photos to the iCloud linked to your account.

4. Set screen brightness to 0.

5. Lock phone and screen.

6. Disable fingerprint sensor, so only inputting the correct pin will
unlock the phone.

7. Play a loud pitch Siren or alert notification sound at the highest
volume level.

8. Continue to secretly take a photo every 30 - 60 seconds using the
front and back camera, and upload the photos to the iCloud, not
overwriting the other photos.


Now maybe I'm coming off here sounding like a lunatic, but I feel that
such a Shortcut would be nice to have just in case you encounter a
situation like this.


Can this be done? If so, what are the steps?


Also is there a site or blog featuring useful iOS shortcuts members have
freely contributed. Ones you can easily import to the Shortcuts app on
your iPhone?


Now I realize this list is filled with a bunch of people just looking
for a reason to ridicule member's who post any question they personally
deem as "Dumb." I'm hoping 

Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

[Arlene]

Kenny, and, Simon, here's what to do suggest to apple to send a command to 
your phone to brick it, and even if you got it back you wouldn't be able to 
unbrick it. However it could be unbricked. that would be entirely up to 
apple. Can't you just see this thug going into the apple store, asking for 
help with the phone and pretty soon the police walk up behind him. I believe 
this is your real security. As soon as the guy comes in the store there will 
be an alert that the phone belongs to you, while they making out to the guy 
like they are working on the phone, and someone else in the store would be 
calling the police. If apple had it where you could send a code from either 
your apple watch or another phone to send a specific brick code  for your 
phone. I believe if this was done right it would certainly discourage the 
thieves from stealing iPhones or any other connected apple device. any 
thoughts?


Wayme
- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?


Hi Kenny,

I’m not going to say your crazy,
Because you're probably thinking of something others are also thinking of.

How to do it would be the crazy thing!

I'm personally thinking what you are looking to do must be possible but I'm 
not sure you could do it with a Hey siri shortcut request if the jerkoff 
that just grabbed your phone is doing a runner.


And thinking that if I grabbed a mobile device and started running, I'd 
have it in one hand and that would be by my side as my arms pumped as 
runners do!


You would have road noise possibly to take in to consideration,
Other background noises
The runner might have put your phone in to their pocket to free hands or 
make themselves look les like a running scumbag!


And of course your idea of the photo of the face depends on if the phone is 
being looked at, which they would do I'm sure once they were away from 
anyone following them!



However if you have an apple watch especially one of the LTE models,
Could you not do some of this stuff from find my iphone via the watch?
Find my iPhone I've used to locate my watch from my phone so somewhat around 
the opposite way to what you are looking for,


But you could trigger an alarm,
Lock the phone or wipe it if needed,
I'm not sure about photos but there must be something that could give you 
that ability,
Infact I think there is built in to the watch but it's from the phones 
camera so you can hold the phone up with the camera looking at something and 
view it on the watch screen!



The other thing is if you use a caine you could throw it at the scumbag like 
a javlyn / speer,
Or if it's a broken down in to sections folding cain, throw it at their legs 
as they run so it might trip them and then you could kick the shit out of 
them while they lye there trying to free themselves,


Or if you use a dog, teach it to chase the bad guy like a police dog!
That one I'd like to see happen!

Sorry most of this isn't going to do what you are looking for but just some 
ideas looking from a somewhat different angle


Good luck and I hope you can figure something out
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny
Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

I'm not sure if this is possible, but I wanted to pose the question to the 
list to find out.



I own an iPhone 8 running iOS 13.5.1.


Here's the scenario. You're using your iPhone while waiting outside for
an Uber pickup, then a thief snatches it out of your hand. They take off
running. You have only a few seconds to react, but normally you start
screaming "STOP THIEF" or something too that affect immediately.


How about you could simply say the phrase "Hey Siri: STOP THIEF"


Then Siri would do the following on your iPhone:

1. Activate the front camera and take a picture.

2. Activate the back camera and take a picture.

3. Upload a copy of those photos to the iCloud linked to your account.

4. Set screen brightness to 0.

5. Lock phone and screen.

6. Disable fingerprint sensor, so only inputting the correct pin will
unlock the phone.

7. Play a loud pitch Siren or alert notification sound at the highest
volume level.

8. Continue to secretly take a photo every 30 - 60 seconds using the
front and back camera, and upload the photos to the iCloud, not
overwriting the other photos.


Now maybe I'm coming off here sounding like a lunatic, but I feel that
such a Shortcut would be nice to have just in case you encounter a
situation like this.


Can this be done? If so, what are the steps?


Also is there a site or blog featuring useful iOS shortcuts members have
freely contributed. Ones you can easily import to the Shortcuts app on
your iPhone?


Now I realize this list is filled with a bunch of people just looking
for a reason to ridicule member's who post any question they personally
deem as "Dumb." 

Re: Siri problem

[Arlene]

Shirley, Tom's voice is more human sounding, his voice is our favorite voice 
on our phones. His Voice was used on one of the phone automated systems, but 
I can't remember which one that was. It may have been dish.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shirley Baker" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Siri problem


I have Jaws on my computer and personally, I don't have a problem with it at 
all. Can you change the pitch in typing mode in settings because I didn't 
find that anywhere. I decided to go with Tom. That voice sounds more human 
than some of the rest. At least if I get tired of it, I can change it to 
something different and glad to have that option.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

And, I think it is much clearer than JAWS that costs dearly.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem

I agree with your rant; and I'll add my own.
VoiceOver is free.
You get amazing accessibility, and it does not cost a cent more.
Bugs exist in all software, get over it.
If you use a Windows computer, you have to spend a heck of a lot more for 
good accessibility; and there are bugs there too.
And, while I'm on the subject, the free screen readers for Windows do not 
hold a candle to VoiceOver on the iPhones or iPads.







Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
Edward Herbert



   On Jun 28, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Jennie Facer  
wrote:




   I can understand someone not liking the voices, but folks this is it 
really! If we didn't have these voices or any of them, we would be in a 
world of hurtin'. Be greatful that you have choices. Be greatful you have 
VoiceOver period. Apple has made it nice for us although thereare bugs. 
There will always be bugs so don't expect a perfect world of technology 
because they are human, too. Anyway, that's my rant for today.


   Jenn

   Jenn and Kumi



   On Jun 28, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Shirley Baker 
 wrote:






   I really don't like any of the voices but for now, I've got Siri 
male. I really hate the sound of all of them except for Siri male and 
really hate the way Siri voices pronounce some words. Looks like they 
could come up with better ones.






   Sent from my iPhone





   On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:04 PM, Shirley Baker 
 wrote:






   Is this the problem with Samatha that you all are talking or 
is Samatha a different voice than Siri?









   Sent from my iPhone





   On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Diane Giannetti 
 wrote:






   Someone else had the same problem and she called Apple. I 
also had the same problem. What we have to do is change her voice if you 
have the American  Female  that seems to be the problem. It was with the 
last update that some of us are having a problem with that. I changed it 
to the male American Apple had suggested to the other person to change it 
to a British voice. So it’s up to you but whatever when you change it and 
it should work. Apparently with the next update this should be resolved.






   Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





   On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Greg Wocher 
 wrote:






   Hello all,


   For some reason Siri has quit speaking. I have tried 
pressing the volume up after asking her a question and all that seems to 
do is raise the volume of the phone but not Siri. I have also tried 
rebooting my phone and that did not help. What else can I try to get her 
speaking again? I am using the latest iOS update on a iPhone 10S.






   Thanks,


   Greg Wocher





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Re: Siri problem

[Arlene]

I heard that episode with eyes on success with Susan Bennet as a guest, that 
was an interesting episode.
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: Siri problem


Right. Eyes on Success had a program on her not real long ago. 
Whoever/whatever she/it/he is, mine works for me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 12:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem

Carolyn, you're thinking of Susan Bennet, The american siri voice is no 
longer Susan Bennet, for ever since we got our iPhones a little over 2 years 
ago. Well at least when we got our phones the siri voice was the different 
voice. I've read the wikipedia page about siri, but I don't remember now if 
it said who does the siri voice after Susan. I like this other Siri voice, 
it's so pleasant sounding, and Susan's voice is great too. So maybe anyone 
that's had an iPhone longer than 2 years could tell us when they ended using 
Susan's voice for Siri, and when the new voice began.




- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: Siri problem


Siri is a voice from someone, I think named Susan something, that Apple got
her to record stuff and stuff and more stuff, and all kind of stuff for them
to program.

I do not know if the other voices are synthetic, but I think they are. If
so, they are very good, as is TalkBack - better than JAWS, and 1,000% better
than Ivona on the Victor Reader Stream that I detest and can hardly
understand.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Baker
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem

Carolyn, I see what you're saying now. Siri female to me sounds like she's
talking through her nose.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Samantha is different from the Siri female voice.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Baker
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem

Is this the problem with Samatha that you all are talking or is Samatha a
different voice than Siri?


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Diane Giannetti 
wrote:

Someone else had the same problem and she called Apple. I also had the
same problem. What we have to do is change her voice if you have the
American  Female  that seems to be the problem. It was with the last
update that some of us are having a problem with that. I changed it to
the male American Apple had suggested to the other person to change it to
a British voice. So it’s up to you but whatever when you change it and it
should work. Apparently with the next update this should be resolved.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:


Hello all,
For some reason Siri has quit speaking. I have tried pressing the volume
up after asking her a question and all that seems to do is raise the
volume of the phone but not Siri. I have also tried rebooting my phone
and that did not help. What else can I try to get her speaking again? I
am using the latest iOS update on a iPhone 10S.

Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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Re: Siri problem

[Arlene]

This question isn't as important here, but speaking of the google voice, 
does anyone know who does the google voice? I do like the google voice, it's 
even on a  a flip phone I have, called the etalk. Our favorite voice on our 
iPhones is Tom.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marie" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Siri problem


Talk Back is a screen reader, not a voice. It uses the Google Voice by
default.



Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri problem

Talkback is the most common Android one; Voice Assist is one for Samsung. I
haven't heard it. I can take JAWS way better than the Ivona voices.

I like Siri and Samantha, so haven't tried any of the other ones for my
iPhone. I've heard Douglas Walker's male voices on his phone on the Hadley
videos, and they don't appeal to me. It is better though, that we have the
choices to make.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem

I never heard the android voice, but I detested the jaws voice. Esther


Sent From Esther's Awesome and Amazing iPhone 7+


On Jun 26, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



Siri is a voice from someone, I think named Susan something, that Apple got
her to record stuff and stuff and more stuff, and all kind of stuff for them
to program.

I do not know if the other voices are synthetic, but I think they are. If
so, they are very good, as is TalkBack - better than JAWS, and 1,000% better
than Ivona on the Victor Reader Stream that I detest and can hardly
understand.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Baker
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem

Carolyn, I see what you're saying now. Siri female to me sounds like she's
talking through her nose.

Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:





Samantha is different from the Siri female voice.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Baker


Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:04 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: Re: Siri problem





Is this the problem with Samatha that you all are talking or is Samatha a
different voice than Siri?








Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:





Someone else had the same problem and she called Apple. I also had the same
problem. What we have to do is change her voice if you have the American
Female  that seems to be the problem. It was with the last update that some
of us are having a problem with that. I changed it to the male American
Apple had suggested to the other person to change it to a British voice. So
it’s up to you but whatever when you change it and it should work.
Apparently with the next update this should be resolved.





Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:





Hello all,


For some reason Siri has quit speaking. I have tried pressing the volume up
after asking her a question and all that seems to do is raise the volume of
the phone but not Siri. I have also tried rebooting my phone and that did
not help. What else can I try to get her speaking again? I am using the
latest iOS update on a iPhone 10S.





Thanks,


Greg Wocher





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Re: Siri problem

[Arlene]

Carolyn, you're thinking of Susan Bennet, The american siri voice is no 
longer Susan Bennet, for ever since we got our iPhones
a little over 2 years ago. Well at least when we got our phones the siri 
voice was
the different voice. I've read the wikipedia page about siri, but I don't 
remember
now if it said who does the siri voice after Susan. I like this other Siri 
voice,
it's so pleasant sounding, and Susan's voice is great too. So maybe anyone 
that's
had an iPhone longer than 2 years could tell us when they ended using 
Susan's voice

for Siri, and when the new voice began.



- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: Siri problem


Siri is a voice from someone, I think named Susan something, that Apple got 
her to record stuff and stuff and more stuff, and all kind of stuff for them 
to program.


I do not know if the other voices are synthetic, but I think they are. If 
so, they are very good, as is TalkBack - better than JAWS, and 1,000% better 
than Ivona on the Victor Reader Stream that I detest and can hardly 
understand.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Shirley Baker

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem

Carolyn, I see what you're saying now. Siri female to me sounds like she's 
talking through her nose.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Samantha is different from the Siri female voice.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Shirley Baker

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem

Is this the problem with Samatha that you all are talking or is Samatha a 
different voice than Siri?



Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Diane Giannetti  
wrote:


Someone else had the same problem and she called Apple. I also had the 
same problem. What we have to do is change her voice if you have the 
American  Female  that seems to be the problem. It was with the last 
update that some of us are having a problem with that. I changed it to 
the male American Apple had suggested to the other person to change it to 
a British voice. So it’s up to you but whatever when you change it and it 
should work. Apparently with the next update this should be resolved.


Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:


Hello all,
For some reason Siri has quit speaking. I have tried pressing the volume 
up after asking her a question and all that seems to do is raise the 
volume of the phone but not Siri. I have also tried rebooting my phone 
and that did not help. What else can I try to get her speaking again? I 
am using the latest iOS update on a iPhone 10S.


Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Arlene]

Yay, Carolyn, we're so happy for you. That's got to be such a relief that 
your phone  is working right again. It's so strange when you think about it, 
it happens with our computers, and even our phones, where things get 
strange. Then rebooting the computer or phone makes all the difference in 
the world. I've even had things get strange on a few of the  flip phones. 
And as a bonus, Dave will be relieved too. Wayne is saying No seriously, 
I've learned over the years that using and figuring out issues with these 
electronic goodies takes a lot of persistance and patience. and now from me, 
Arlene, that's so true, it does take a lot of patience, I've seen Wayne work 
on these computers and the phones and he's very persistant, taking the time 
to think of what could be wrong, and works at it until he can solve it. 
That's a good thing that's rubbed off on me too, instead of calling for help 
right away, and sometimes I can get whatever it is straightened out..
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.


Wayne, I will follow your directions, if charging does not work. I am going 
to check now and will just let you know before sending, so we can quit 
bugging poor Dave with the problem.


Yea, Wayne! The turn off, turn on, Reboot seemed to bring it back to life! 
You're the best!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

In all the years that I've been working with all these software driven 
electronics, I've seen all kinds of strange things happen. What I'm getting 
ready to ask you to try may make little to no sense.  So here it goes, go 
into ring with vibration setting if it's on turn it off.

then reboot your phone.
go back into the ring with vibration setting at this point it should be off. 
Turn it back on. Hopefully that will resolve your issue, however, if it does 
not 2 more things to do.
reboot the iPhone again, if it's still not working, well, my next step 
would be go to the nearest apple store. since you've tried just about 
everything, and hung in there, Carolyn, I hope it all works out.

Wayne

- Original Message -
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.


Hi Carolyn,

A simple question you may have answered already,

If you toggle the mute switch on the side of the phone
Does your phone vibrate at all?

This is the little toggle above the volumes?

If this is not vibrating or causing your phoen to vibrate,
I'd be inclined to take your phone back to a store and talk to them about it


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 3:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I did reboot, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mich Verrier
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have the I phone 8 and mine says sounds and hapticks. Have you tried re
buting the phone? That might make the vibrate on ring option come back. From
Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: June 24, 2020 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Thanks, Shirley. That is on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Baker
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have the latest version of IOS so you go to settings, go to sounds. The
first thing you come to as you swipe to the right is vibrate and to the
right of that, it says vibrate on ring. If you want that selected, double
tap on that. I have the IOS 6S plus. Some people say their phone says sounds
and haptics but mine only says sounds but so far as I know, everything else
works the same.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 23, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Shai  wrote:

Hello Carolyn,
After double tapping on sounds, flick to the right and double tap on
ring tone. Following that, see if there is a vibration setting there.




On 6/23/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Subject says it all. My phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have gone into Settings, into Sounds and Haptics, says Vibrate is
on. I went to General to see if I could find anything about it. I
went to Accessibility. So, I am missing something somewhere. Could
someone please tell me where to go to get my vibrations set?
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Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Arlene]

Dave, You want what all of us want, for Carolyn's troubles to be solved with 
this situation. And if only either you, or my Wayne and some other really 
knowledgible helpful members   here could sit by Carolyn and have her phone 
in hand anyone of you might be the one to solve this issue and get it 
cleared up, and she would be most appreciative, and learning from you what 
went wrong. While I believe that Carolyn is coming closer to a solution or 
another direction to go through, with all the things she's tried, if the 
last few things to try that were given this morning don't solve the 
situation she'll  most likely try calling apple accessibility and better yet 
going to the apple store, if the accessibility department can't help her. 
There's always the possibility to offer to see if you could help her on a 
phone call. You and all of us have been clued to this thread, and there's 
nothing more than  all of us want for this issue to be solved for her, and 
who knows possibly in the future if someone has the same trouble, Carolyn or 
anyone of us  can tell the person how to solve it, of course especially 
Carolyn. Sometimes it takes more time to get to that solution than we'd like 
since none of us are there in person, but the assist given on this group is 
wonderful. As I said Carolyn is persistant, patiently trying all 
suggestions, and that has to be admired. I don't get a poor impression of 
you, I knew from your first message that you wanted what we all want for 
Carolyn, and what Carolyn most wants.

Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.


Hi Arlene. I total agree with you.

But i have been monitoring the thread. And it seems like, every suggestion,
has been tried, and failed.

I would dearly love, to get my hands on Carolyn's phone, and take a look at
her settings, and sort it out for her. But obviously, that wouldn't be
possible. Or even, talk Carolyn through it over the phone.

I just think her best bet, would be apple accessibility.

So please don't think, that i am being thoughtless. I just want the best and
quickest option for her.

All the best,

Dave.


-Original Message----- 
From: Arlene

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Dave, if either  one of us have something that might help that we haven't
heard anyone suggest yet, we would happily add to the thread to hopefully
lead to a solution. Carolyn will know when she'll need to either call apple
accessibility line or go to the apple store, as she's not one to give up and
she's been doing her best to try all the possible solutions given to her by
other members. She's probably coming very close to a solution soon. There's
nothing like the assistance given to one another on this group, so thanks to
everyone that reaches out for the most easiest solution that hadn't been
thought of or the easiest solution the person wasn't  aware of that makes
them wonder why they didn't think of that, to the most puzzling situation.
Wayne and Arlene
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.


Simon. The advice given, by many members, is going full circle.

Surely the next step, is apple accessibility?

I am all for helping people. But there is only so much members can say,
before it is time to contact the professionals.

As another member said. Apple accessibility, is open 24 hours.

-Original Message- 
From: Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Yeah it probably will once the issue has been resolved.

Not everyone is as lucky as you so relax and try being part of the solution
rather than rude and thinking the problem is not going away.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 5:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

With respect. Will this subject line ever end?

I've used apple accessibility, a fair few times in the past, and never had
any problems, with being cut off.

-Original Message-
From: Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have called Apple twice, got company while waiting yesterday, got cut off
today after ten-minute wait then got connected. Then, all of a sudden, dial
tone. I called on another phone, so we'd have my phone to work with.

I wonder when the best time is to call them. Yesterday, I called around 6 in
the afternoon, and today I called at 12:10 PM.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sub

Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Arlene]

Dave, if either  one of us have something that might help that we haven't 
heard anyone suggest yet, we would happily add to the thread to hopefully 
lead to a solution. Carolyn will know when she'll need to either call apple 
accessibility line or go to the apple store, as she's not one to give up and 
she's been doing her best to try all the possible solutions given to her by 
other members. She's probably coming very close to a solution soon. There's 
nothing like the assistance given to one another on this group, so thanks to 
everyone that reaches out for the most easiest solution that hadn't been 
thought of or the easiest solution the person wasn't  aware of that makes 
them wonder why they didn't think of that, to the most puzzling situation.

Wayne and Arlene
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.


Simon. The advice given, by many members, is going full circle.

Surely the next step, is apple accessibility?

I am all for helping people. But there is only so much members can say,
before it is time to contact the professionals.

As another member said. Apple accessibility, is open 24 hours.

-Original Message- 
From: Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Yeah it probably will once the issue has been resolved.

Not everyone is as lucky as you so relax and try being part of the solution
rather than rude and thinking the problem is not going away.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 5:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

With respect. Will this subject line ever end?

I've used apple accessibility, a fair few times in the past, and never had
any problems, with being cut off.

-Original Message-
From: Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have called Apple twice, got company while waiting yesterday, got cut off
today after ten-minute wait then got connected. Then, all of a sudden, dial
tone. I called on another phone, so we'd have my phone to work with.

I wonder when the best time is to call them. Yesterday, I called around 6 in
the afternoon, and today I called at 12:10 PM.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Has the person experiencing this called Apple?
I have not been reading the plethora of messages with this subject line.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Shirley Baker
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

It's not a 13 glitch. Mine works fine.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 24, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

It is on. I turned it off then back on, have rebooted my phone.

I called Apple Accessibility, but had to wait so long, then had company.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I still use iOS 12.4.  Settings may have changed in iOS 13.

Look in Settings, then Sounds.
The first heading in Sounds is Vibrate.
The first entry under the heading is "Vibrate on ring".  Make sure
this is on.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Subject says it all. My phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have gone into Settings, into Sounds and Haptics, says Vibrate is
on. I went to General to see if I could find anything about it. I went
to Accessibility. So, I am missing something somewhere. Could someone
please tell me where to go to get my vibrations set?
Thanks.

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Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Arlene]

Nothing like all the assistance given on this group, until it's solved or if 
there isn't a solution an advised direction to consider.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 4:14 AM
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.


Yeah it probably will once the issue has been resolved.

Not everyone is as lucky as you so relax and try being part of the solution 
rather than rude and thinking the problem is not going away.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 5:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

With respect. Will this subject line ever end?

I've used apple accessibility, a fair few times in the past, and never had 
any problems, with being cut off.


-Original Message-
From: Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have called Apple twice, got company while waiting yesterday, got cut off 
today after ten-minute wait then got connected. Then, all of a sudden, dial 
tone. I called on another phone, so we'd have my phone to work with.


I wonder when the best time is to call them. Yesterday, I called around 6 in 
the afternoon, and today I called at 12:10 PM.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Has the person experiencing this called Apple?
I have not been reading the plethora of messages with this subject line.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

It's not a 13 glitch. Mine works fine.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 24, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

It is on. I turned it off then back on, have rebooted my phone.

I called Apple Accessibility, but had to wait so long, then had company.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I still use iOS 12.4.  Settings may have changed in iOS 13.

Look in Settings, then Sounds.
The first heading in Sounds is Vibrate.
The first entry under the heading is "Vibrate on ring".  Make sure
this is on.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Subject says it all. My phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have gone into Settings, into Sounds and Haptics, says Vibrate is
on. I went to General to see if I could find anything about it. I went
to Accessibility. So, I am missing something somewhere. Could someone
please tell me where to go to get my vibrations set?
Thanks.

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Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

[Arlene]

In all the years that I've been working with all these software driven 
electronics, I've seen all kinds of strange things happen. What I'm getting 
ready to ask you to try may make little to no sense.  So here it goes,

go into ring with vibration setting
if it's on turn it off.
then reboot your phone.
go back into the ring with vibration setting
at this point it should be off. Turn it back on. Hopefully that will resolve 
your issue, however, if it does not 2 more things to do.
reboot the iPhone again, if it's still not working, well, my next step 
would be go to the nearest apple store. since you've tried just about 
everything, and hung in there, Carolyn, I hope it all works out.

Wayne

- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.


Hi Carolyn,

A simple question you may have answered already,

If you toggle the mute switch on the side of the phone
Does your phone vibrate at all?

This is the little toggle above the volumes?

If this is not vibrating or causing your phoen to vibrate,
I'd be inclined to take your phone back to a store and talk to them about it


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn

Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 3:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I did reboot, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mich Verrier

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have the I phone 8 and mine says sounds and hapticks. Have you tried re 
buting the phone? That might make the vibrate on ring option come back. From 
Mich.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn

Sent: June 24, 2020 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

Thanks, Shirley. That is on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Shirley Baker

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have the latest version of IOS so you go to settings, go to sounds. The 
first thing you come to as you swipe to the right is vibrate and to the 
right of that, it says vibrate on ring. If you want that selected, double 
tap on that. I have the IOS 6S plus. Some people say their phone says sounds 
and haptics but mine only says sounds but so far as I know, everything else 
works the same.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 23, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Shai  wrote:

Hello Carolyn,
After double tapping on sounds, flick to the right and double tap on
ring tone. Following that, see if there is a vibration setting there.




On 6/23/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Subject says it all. My phone does not vibrate on ring.

I have gone into Settings, into Sounds and Haptics, says Vibrate is
on. I went to General to see if I could find anything about it. I
went to Accessibility. So, I am missing something somewhere. Could
someone please tell me where to go to get my vibrations set?
Thanks.

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Re: Time To Get A New Router

[Arlene]

Juan, if you could place your router in a central place in your house that 
might help. If you have a combination of wireless and wired devices an idea 
would be to place the router where it would be close to the wireless 
devices. Some routers have more antenners than other routers do, but you 
could experiment with working with the antenrs that might help the 
situation. It could even make the difference in the speed. As far as the 
accessibility of the routers some are more accessible than others.
- Original Message - 
From: "Juan Mojena" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Time To Get A New Router


Hi Arnold, hate to be  nosy but how large is your house?? I have a 2400 
square-foot house with the router  on  the first floor one side of the house 
and sometimes it doesn't quite get up to the second floor on the other side 
of the house in the bedroom.. I think I need a mesh router. I'm kind of 
concerned about how difficult it is for us to program these routers .


Juan


On Jun 21, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

I have ordered the TP AC1200, I think it is, from Amazon for $49. It only 
goes up to 300 mbps, but that is okay, that is faster than what I have 
now, and I am too cheap ever to pay for one of those megabyt connections 
in the future unless they come way down. My router is supposed to come 
tomorrow.


Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:03 AM, Arlene  wrote:

Arnold, we have the tp-link router which we've had for about 3 years. It 
has very strong wifi and it's dual band and has advanced features. The one 
we have is a 4 port, in addition it has 2 usb ports, one is for a printer, 
and the other is for an external harddrive, that's good for up to 2 tb. We 
purchased our router at office depot and they are probably sold at many 
other stores. This tp-link router is completely accessible and easy to set 
up. We don't know if our model has been replaced by a newer model, but our 
model is tp-link archer 8. Here's the link to the tp-link web site

https://www.tp-link.com/us/

If you have any questions just ask.
Arlene and Wayne

- Original Message - From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:00 PM
Subject: Time To Get A New Router


My Medialink router has served me well for 8.5 years, but it quit this 
afternoon. What routers are recommended now? I will be using it with my 
iphone and Victor Reader on wifi, and my computer via wired connection. 
Thanks for any suggestions.


Arnold Schmidt


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Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

[Arlene]

Before I tell you all about the Netty and Guy story and thunder story, I've 
never heard in all these many years from 1976 when I got my dog and all 
these years of many friends attending the different guide dog schools 
including leader dog, amoungst so many things that goes into a dog's 
training in being fully prepared and ready to handle everything that comes 
their way, I never heard of a guide dog school working with the dogs on fear 
of thunder, but that's probably something that's included with so many other 
things in their training and preparation for being a guide dog. Of course, 
just like people dogs have other fears. Though it does seem comon that many 
dogs have a fear of thunder and fire works, but just like common fears that 
people have, amoungst dogs too, not every dog or person have those most 
common fears. It would probably would be beneficial if the guide dog schools 
worked with the dogs with the fear of thunder, and possibly many of the 
schools are doing just that and we're not aware of that. That could be 
important if you're either a block or 2 from home or a block or 2 from 
transportation to get you home, it wouldn't be the best situation for your 
dog to be very frightened. Though in a situation such as that hopefully it 
would be great if there was a place very near by where you could wait until 
the rain and thunder is over. So While this isn't a guide dog support group, 
it would be a sad reflection on a guide dog school to asume that fears 
including the fear of thunder isn't worked on with the dogs, especially on 
what we individually know. Of all the dogs I've known, pet dogs and guide 
dogs with the exception of one dog, all the dogs had a fear of thunder. It's 
something that can vary from person to person, concerning the dogs they 
know, for example another person might say, the majority dogs I know aren't 
a fraid, or in terms of duge dogs, someone could say that they know 5 dogs 
from such and such guide dog school that have no fear of thunder and 2 that 
are afraid of thunder, and that they know 6 dogs from another guide dog 
school where 3 of the dogs are afraraid of thunder and 3 that aren't. I 
would habe to hear that would be the determining thing about one school 
being better than the other, there's just so very manythings they work on 
with preparing and training the dogs and of course all of that is something 
we all know. Now for the Netty and Guy story, both guide dogs from guiding 
eyes, Netty was my dog and she was a yellow labrador, and Guy was a german 
shepherd that belonged to my friend Greg. Along with a few other fwith Greg, 
at his  apartment, It was the 4th of july in about 1979, you could hear fire 
crackers and on top of that it began to thunder. Knowing how scared Netty 
was of thunder storms I went to her, and found her lying on one of the 
couches really scared. Then Guy came into the living room, and was just 
walking around the room, to him everything was fine, just barking here and 
there. Clearly he wasn't nervous or a fraid of the fire works and thunder, 
and I was thinking it was as if he was trying to tell us something. Fast 
forward about 6 months later, this one night, in our own apartment, it began 
thundering and raining, this time it was different for netty, while she 
seemed still a little nervous about the thunder, it was nothing like other 
times when she was so scared of it, and she even barked somewhat like Guy 
did. So we just know Guy must have been helping her not to be afraid of 
thunder, and she remembered that and he helped her with that.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning 
alert



I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, 
and all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside 
somewhere and it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant 
his feet and refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back 
home as fast as he could, but not go any further the other direction.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning 
alert


My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, 
then in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a 
black lab/golden retriever mix.



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Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: 

Re: Time To Get A New Router

[Arlene]

Arnold, it sounds like you picked out a good router,, that's really great.
- Original Message - 
From: "Arnold Schmidt" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Time To Get A New Router


I have ordered the TP AC1200, I think it is, from Amazon for $49. It only 
goes up to 300 mbps, but that is okay, that is faster than what I have now, 
and I am too cheap ever to pay for one of those megabyt connections in the 
future unless they come way down. My router is supposed to come tomorrow.


Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:03 AM, Arlene  wrote:

Arnold, we have the tp-link router which we've had for about 3 years. It has 
very strong wifi and it's dual band and has advanced features. The one we 
have is a 4 port, in addition it has 2 usb ports, one is for a printer, and 
the other is for an external harddrive, that's good for up to 2 tb. We 
purchased our router at office depot and they are probably sold at many 
other stores. This tp-link router is completely accessible and easy to set 
up. We don't know if our model has been replaced by a newer model, but our 
model is tp-link archer 8. Here's the link to the tp-link web site

https://www.tp-link.com/us/

If you have any questions just ask.
Arlene and Wayne

- Original Message - From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:00 PM
Subject: Time To Get A New Router


My Medialink router has served me well for 8.5 years, but it quit this 
afternoon. What routers are recommended now? I will be using it with my 
iphone and Victor Reader on wifi, and my computer via wired connection. 
Thanks for any suggestions.


Arnold Schmidt


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Re: Time To Get A New Router

[Arlene]

Cris, the tp-links we have  is just a router. in knowing what you're looking 
for, We use to have cox and they offered several options of routers and 
modems. Due to having problems with their service and equipment we ended up 
with the very latest aries cable modem and the tp-links router because the 
separate conponents worked better than the combined modem with the router, 
however there might be some good combined cable routers and modems out 
there. At one time cox was a good internet provider but they got to where 
they couldn't provide the service that they were selling, so we lucked out, 
and made a few phone calls and found that we had fiber in this area. Now we 
have unlimited one gig service up and down, you notice from this email 
address we're on earthlink which is right, and the provider for earthlink is 
at, so our router/modem is the most current one from at and it's a very 
good one. I'm just letting you know about this, just in case you want to 
check to see if you have fiber in your area. Earthlink calls their service 
hyperlink. from at if one has their service it might be just called fiber. 
We're so spoiled now that we'll probably never go back to cable. It's just 
something to think about. If you stay with comcast, we have the latest aries 
cable modem that we used with cox. If you need any other details or have any 
questions, just let us know.

Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Cris Ali" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Time To Get A New Router


Hi Arlene,
Is the TP Link an internet modem and router or only router? I am looking to 
buy a modem and router in one piece. I. Have comcast as my provider.

Regards


Sent from my iPad


On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:03 AM, Arlene  wrote:

Arnold, we have the tp-link router which we've had for about 3 years. It 
has very strong wifi and it's dual band and has advanced features. The one 
we have is a 4 port, in addition it has 2 usb ports, one is for a printer, 
and the other is for an external harddrive, that's good for up to 2 tb. We 
purchased our router at office depot and they are probably sold at many 
other stores. This tp-link router is completely accessible and easy to set 
up. We don't know if our model has been replaced by a newer model, but our 
model is tp-link archer 8. Here's the link to the tp-link web site

https://www.tp-link.com/us/

If you have any questions just ask.
Arlene and Wayne

- Original Message - From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:00 PM
Subject: Time To Get A New Router


My Medialink router has served me well for 8.5 years, but it quit this 
afternoon. What routers are recommended now? I will be using it with my 
iphone and Victor Reader on wifi, and my computer via wired connection. 
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Re: Time To Get A New Router

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Arnold, we have the tp-link router which we've had for about 3 years. It has 
very strong wifi and it's dual band and has advanced features. The one we 
have is a 4 port, in addition it has 2 usb ports, one is for a printer, and 
the other is for an external harddrive, that's good for up to 2 tb. We 
purchased our router at office depot and they are probably sold at many 
other stores. This tp-link router is completely accessible and easy to set 
up. We don't know if our model has been replaced by a newer model, but our 
model is tp-link archer 8. Here's the link to the tp-link web site

https://www.tp-link.com/us/

If you have any questions just ask.
Arlene and Wayne

- Original Message - 
From: "Arnold Schmidt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:00 PM
Subject: Time To Get A New Router


My Medialink router has served me well for 8.5 years, but it quit this 
afternoon. What routers are recommended now? I will be using it with my 
iphone and Victor Reader on wifi, and my computer via wired connection. 
Thanks for any suggestions.


Arnold Schmidt


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Re: Choosing a phone company

[Arlene]

Juan, consumer cellular is a great comany, we have 2 se iPhones and a home 
phone with consumer cellular.
- Original Message - 
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Subject: Choosing a phone company


I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see if 
the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT 
and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they 
think about the service?

Thank you very much in advance.
Juan


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Re: Easy alternatives to iPhone

[Arlene]

Oh, Carolyn, I forgot that the revere was an lg. At the time I heard it was 
a good phone. I had a few friends that had the phone and one of the sales 
guys at my closest verizon store was saying what a good phone it was. That 
sales guy was something, he knew a bit more than the other sales people 
about the text to speech on the phones. Unfortunately when I found out about 
it verizon had just stopped selling it. Anyway I know I'm crazy, I love both 
the smart phones and the flip phones.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone


It is an LG. There is a little learning curve, but, then there is to any 
phone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin

Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

revere 2??? Is that MadeBy LG?
By Yours???  Sure, Make me AnOffer? LOL LaughingOutLoud LOL At 12:45 PM 
6/8/2020, you wrote:

I believe it is the revere 2.  Wanna buy mine?  lol

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

Hey there,Miss Kitty

Can you (please) Share with TheList MailingList TheName  of that
FlipPhone  you were Referrin'To  on VZW?

Would have Written OffList, but Thought Others on  the MailingList
would Also like to Know

Blessin's
At 11:04 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
>Ann, I actually happen to have a flip phone that works on Verizon as
>that is my carrier.  The only thing your client might need to find
>out is if Verizon still supportsthe slower service.
>  It does have more accessibilities than some of the flip phones I
>have had.  For instance, it will read text messages and if u happen
>to catch the message when it comes in, you can find out who it is  from.
>Let me know off list if u r interested and we can talk  more.  Email
>me at kheve...@earthlink.net and put flip phone in the subject.
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Ann Byrne
>Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 12:21 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone
>
>But it doesn't work with Verizon, correct?
>At 10:18 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
> >I use the Blind Shell Classic, and I definitely recommend it over
> >an iPhone. It doesn't do as much, and you can't add apps to it, but
> >it works well for what it is.
> >Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
> >-Original Message-
> >From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> >Of Ann Byrne
> >Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 9:14 AM
> >To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Easy alternatives to iPhone
> >
> >My totally non-techy student needs to replace her phone.  An iPhone
> >would be really difficult for her.  Is anyone using a blind shell,
> >or another accessible easy-to-use smart phone that you could 
> >recommend?

> >When I enquired previously, someone suggested another phone; but my
> >email crashed and I lost the recommendation.
> >
> >Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> >Ann
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Re: Easy alternatives to iPhone

[Arlene]

That's true, besides the etalk working on an android form of operating 
system, the lg exalt's operating system is a form of android too.
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone


Flip phones are just a form factor. They'll keep working as long as there's 
a demand and manufacturers and carriers keep putting out phones that work on 
the current technology. There's no reason Apple couldn't put out a flip 
phone running IOS, and there are already flip phones running Android.


BTW, will folding phones be considered flip phones?

I also don't see any reason to give up on a working flip phones just because 
you think they might be going away. Sure, you may need to jump to a touch 
screen phone at some point, but there's no reason you can't do that when you 
give up on your flip phone.


--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Easy alternatives to iPhone

I don't think flip phones are going to work much longer.  That's why I 
switched
to my iPhone.  I had an LG TERRA flip phone that I really liked, but it 
worked for
a couple of years, but it just quit working and I had to get something 
different.

That revere phone is very old.
If I hadn't gotten my iPhone, I'd probably have gotten the blindshell 
phone.

Although, I wouldn't have liked to have to switch from Verizon to another
carrier.

On 6/8/20, Robin  wrote:
> revere 2??? Is that MadeBy LG?
> By Yours???  Sure, Make me AnOffer? LOL LaughingOutLoud LOL At 12:45
> PM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
>>I believe it is the revere 2.  Wanna buy mine?  lol
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>Behalf Of Robin
>>Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 3:19 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone
>>
>>Hey there,Miss Kitty
>>
>>Can you (please) Share with TheList MailingList TheName  of that
>>FlipPhone  you were Referrin'To  on VZW?
>>
>>Would have Written OffList, but Thought Others on  the MailingList
>>would Also like to Know
>>
>>Blessin's
>>At 11:04 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
>> >Ann, I actually happen to have a flip phone that works on Verizon as
>> >that is my carrier.  The only thing your client might need to find
>> >out is if Verizon still supportsthe slower service.
>> >  It does have more accessibilities than some of the flip phones I
>> >have had.  For instance, it will read text messages and if u happen
>> >to catch the message when it comes in, you can find out who it is 
>> >from.

>> >Let me know off list if u r interested and we can talk  more.  Email
>> >me at kheve...@earthlink.net and put flip phone in the subject.
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On
>> >Behalf Of Ann Byrne
>> >Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 12:21 PM
>> >To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone
>> >
>> >But it doesn't work with Verizon, correct?
>> >At 10:18 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
>> > >I use the Blind Shell Classic, and I definitely recommend it over
>> > >an iPhone. It doesn't do as much, and you can't add apps to it,
>> > >but it works well for what it is.
>> > >Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
>> > >-Original Message-
>> > >From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>> > >Behalf Of Ann Byrne
>> > >Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 9:14 AM
>> > >To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > >Subject: Easy alternatives to iPhone
>> > >
>> > >My totally non-techy student needs to replace her phone.  An
>> > >iPhone would be really difficult for her.  Is anyone using a blind
>> > >shell, or another accessible easy-to-use smart phone that you could
recommend?
>> > >When I enquired previously, someone suggested another phone; but
>> > >my email crashed and I lost the recommendation.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks for any suggestions,
>> > >
>> > >Ann
>> > >
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Re: Easy alternatives to iPhone

[Arlene]

I could be wrong, but I'm thinking that the revere phone is a 3g phone. I've 
heard the revere is a really great phone. At the time
that I began my verizon postpaid verizon account with the lg exalt and the 
kyozera
cadence 2 years ago in july, and both these phones are 4g. At the time we 
were beginning
to hear that the 3g network was going to be shut down in time, so we asked 
the sales
guy that was setting up my phones about that. Again this was 2 years ago, 
that day
he said that a few days before he attempted to activate a 3g phone, for 
someone but the network
didn't allow the activation for a postpaid account, though for a prepaid 
account you could still activate
a 3g phone. In fact both Wayne and I each have a gusto 3.So this is 
something to
keep in mind as far as not being able to activate a phone for a postpaid 
account





- Original Message - 
From: "kitty hevener" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone



I believe it is the revere 2.  Wanna buy mine?  lol

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin

Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

Hey there,Miss Kitty

Can you (please) Share with TheList MailingList TheName  of that 
FlipPhone  you were Referrin'To  on VZW?


Would have Written OffList, but Thought Others on  the MailingList  would 
Also like to Know


Blessin's
At 11:04 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:

Ann, I actually happen to have a flip phone that works on Verizon as
that is my carrier.  The only thing your client might need to find out
is if Verizon still supportsthe slower service.
 It does have more accessibilities than some of the flip phones I
have had.  For instance, it will read text messages and if u happen  to
catch the message when it comes in, you can find out who it is  from.
Let me know off list if u r interested and we can talk  more.  Email me
at kheve...@earthlink.net and put flip phone in the subject.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 12:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

But it doesn't work with Verizon, correct?
At 10:18 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
>I use the Blind Shell Classic, and I definitely recommend it over an
>iPhone. It doesn't do as much, and you can't add apps to it, but it
>works well for what it is.
>Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 9:14 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Easy alternatives to iPhone
>
>My totally non-techy student needs to replace her phone.  An iPhone
>would be really difficult for her.  Is anyone using a blind shell, or
>another accessible easy-to-use smart phone that you could recommend?
>When I enquired previously, someone suggested another phone; but my
>email crashed and I lost the recommendation.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions,
>
>Ann
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Re: Easy alternatives to iPhone

[Arlene]

I too, would like to know, Kitty, about this wonderful flip phone. Ann, if 
your client
can find the lg exaltflip that would be wonderful. As far as the kyozera 
phones,
the cadence and the dura xv, and the lg exalt, to me anyway, as far as 
accessibility
and how these phones operate, the lg exalt is designed so well the way it 
works in
some of the features of the phone which I could explain off list to you or 
anyone
else. It's my favorite phone. The 3 phones I mentioned here are all verizon 
phones
and are all 4g phones, so your client would be able to use them fine. To 
give you an idea about the prices of the flip phones that verizon has, The 
dura xv,
if  she finds the newer dura xv it costs $240 I was told by a verizon 
customer service
individual. The other dura xv that's also 4 g that's been out for at least 2 
or 3
years which is 4g costs $264. The cadence which I have is $120, and the 
exalt costs
$144. The cadence is sold at some stores, such as walmart and target as a 
prepaid
phone which in that case it costs about $30. There's another phone called 
the etalk
that came out last august, it's a flip phone and if you get it as a prepaid 
it's
about $25. I'm not sure how much the etalk is as a postpaid phone. The etalk 
is interesting,
it's on an android operating system, and the text to speech's voice is the 
same voice
used for talkback I think it is, though it's a basic flip phone. I just want 
to point
out, for anyone that hasn't explored a flip phone in about 4 to 6 years, 
these phones,
while not smart phones quite, they are more advanced than before. For 
example the
lg exalt and the kyozera flip phones have email that you could set up,. The 
only
drawback and I don't know if it's just me and I don't know what to do about 
it
or if it's just the way it is, you can't read the body of the message. You 
could
hear the header, and if a link is in the body of the message you could hear 
that too,
and what's neat is you could press the center button and it will take you on 
the
browser to the web site. I know this isn't the phone list for flip phones so 
I apologize
for all these details, but I just wanted to tell you a bit about the etalk. 
You can
text with the etalk, though it doesn't have a section for email. and since 
verizon
is a verizon phone, the options in the area for texting and for the notepad, 
while
they aren't labeled, you could easily figure out what the numbered option 
is. I
would have to go to the phone to make sure I tell you these options right, 
but you'll
get the idea with this example. When you press the left soft key the options 
are

just numbered, such as
number 1 option is for lower case letters
number 2 option is for upper case
number 3 option is for numbers
and
number 4 option is for symbols
If your client likes to text, then any of these phones would be fine for 
her. The
well known phone the alcatel doesn't speak the symbols so that wouldn't be 
good for
anyone that likes to text. There's a newer model of alcatel for verizon that 
I haven't
seen yet so I don't know if it's like the alcatel phones that I have, one 
was a prepaid
from at and I can't remember what the other carrier was for the other 
phone. So
possibly the newer one is set up better with the text to speech. Again I'm 
sorry
to go into such detail about these phones, here's my email address if anyone 
has
any new information about the newer alcatel or if anyone has any questions 
about

the phones I mentioned, my email address is
arlenes71...@earthlink.net
I meant to mention I haven't figure out how to label those option buttons in 
the
etalk but at least you could figure out what they are. And the sad thing is 
about
my very favorite phone, the lg exalt, even though it's a 4g phone verizon 
has retired
the phone and is no longer selling it, but I've found at times you could 
still find

these phones in the stores that have been retired by the carrier.
Arlene



- Original Message - 
From: "Robin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone



Hey there,Miss Kitty

Can you (please) Share with TheList MailingList TheName  of that 
FlipPhone  you were Referrin'To  on VZW?


Would have Written OffList, but Thought Others on  the MailingList  would 
Also like to Know


Blessin's
At 11:04 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
Ann, I actually happen to have a flip phone that works on Verizon as that 
is my carrier.  The only thing your client might need to find out is if 
Verizon still supportsthe slower service.
 It does have more accessibilities than some of the flip phones I have 
had.  For instance, it will read text messages and if u happen to catch 
the message when it comes in, you can find out who it is from.  Let me 
know off list if u r interested and we can talk more.  Email me at

kheve...@earthlink.net and put flip phone in the subject.
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Of Ann B

Re: Apology

[Arlene]

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

Arlene

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  All,

   

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  I’m sorry – I made a mistake with the address. Has no one else ever made a 
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Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section Index?

[Arlene]

Carolyn, we could write off list about this, but there's some discouraging 
aspects about the kyozera phones, that might be what your friend is having 
trouble with. As far as I know the cadence and the dura xv are set up pretty 
much the same way that I could point out to you. I wish that verizon was 
still selling the lg exalt, which is a whole lot better, but of course you 
could still text with the cadence and the dura xv. I did find out that 
there's a new dura xv extreme so I don't know if some areas of the text to 
speech were improved. I hope i could get to see it in the store some time 
soon. Feel welcome to write me off list, or I'll write to you.
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section 
Index?



My friend is frustrated with her Dura. I'll suggest that she find out about 
the Cadence, while she still has a warranty.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section 
Index?


Esther, possibly someone may have answered your question already about the 
kyosera dura xv which is  a flip phone, it's one of the more rugged flip 
phones that costs about $264. and it's amoungst some other  phones that are 
quite accessible with the text to speech. Especially when it comes to 
writing texts, emails, and writing in the notepade since you could easily 
get to the options for the lower case letters, upper case letters, for the 
symbols, and numbers.
I have the cadence, another flip phone made by kyozera and never had any 
loss of contacts.
As far as our iPhones, they each have 300 contacts and never lost any of the 
contacts.



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From: Esther <mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section 
Index?


hi, everyone, thanks for all your responses. Excuse my ignorance, but what 
is  kyozera dura?



Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+



On May 26, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:




I have 204 contacts right now. I have a friend with a Kyocera Dura, and it 
is so annoying that she loses contacts, and she has only about 25-30. I'd be 
calling Apple and complaining if I lost contacts. I probably wouldn't if I 
had six or eight hundred or something like that. I guess you know, that you 
can put all four fingers at the bottom of the screen to see how many 
contacts you have?


To get the first name first, I went to Contacts in Settings, and I think the 
last entry was where I set them. There were two parts to it, and I think I 
had to experiment to get it right. Fortunately, when I got my new phone, 
everything imported like I had it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Esther

Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section 
Index?


I like first name first as well. I've also heard different theories on how 
many contacts you should have on your phone. Someone told me you should only 
have 100, well others said you could have as many as possible. I would like 
to know what you folks think. Some of my disappear and I have to re-enter 
them. I don't know what causes this. Thanks everyone. Esther



Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+


  On May 26, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



  I like mine first name first. The best I remember, in Contacts in 
Settings, there are two settings that have to be set to make this work. I'd 
have to fool around with it to make it work, but, first name first is 
definitely my arrangement of choice.


  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner

  Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 6:20 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in 
Section Index?


  That setting is under settings, contacts.
  Do you want it to alphabetize by last name, but show first then last in 
the list?

  That used to be the default, but check in your settings to be sure.


  Richard

  Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from 
happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."




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 On May 25, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Shirley Baker  
wrote:




 How do you change the contacts in the section index so your first 
name

Re: YouTube Issue

[Arlene]

is the experience of using youtube better on the computer verses the app on 
the phone? thank you.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lisa Belville" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: YouTube Issue


does that work if you've seen other videos? I thought it moved you back
to the previous video unless you are in the first video since opening
the app. If it's the first video you're viewing after opening the app,
the previous button is dimmed, at least it is for me. I'm using Ios 13
on the original SE.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 5/27/2020 11:41 AM, Kay Malmquist wrote:

There is also the previous button that is by the dislike, like, and next
button.  You can do that while the video is playing or paused.  Hope this
helps.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

When you get, give. When you learn, teach.
Maya Angelou
1928-2014 - Poet-Singer-Memoirist-Civil Rights Activist


- Original Message -
From: "Lisa Belville" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: YouTube Issue


Hi,


The only way to do this for now is to move to the end of the video until
the Replay button appears and then start the video over again.
Unfortunately, this is the only way for VO users to manipulate a video
until this pesky bug is eliminated.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 5/27/2020 10:11 AM, Duane Steele wrote:

Hello again, listers,

Well, if I had just read my email, I'd have discovered that others have
the same YouTube issue. But I can't even figure out how to go back to the
beginning of the video and start it over. I'm sure YouTube, which is
accessible in every other way, will fix this bug. Meantime, does anyone
know how to get back to the beginning of a video on YouTube? Thanks.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194



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Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section Index?

[Arlene]

Carolyn, I'm just curious, what model of phone is that kyozera phone that's 
a bar phone, I haven't heard of that. I just know of the 2 flip phones the 
kyozera dura xv, and the kyozera dura xv extreme and the kyozera cadence. 
Thanks.
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:03 PM
Subject: RE: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section 
Index?



Kyocera Dura ia a feature phone. It is not a flip phone; it is a candy bar 
phone. It has buttons to use for dialing and menus.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Esther

Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section 
Index?


hi, everyone, thanks for all your responses. Excuse my ignorance, but what 
is  kyozera dura?



Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+



On May 26, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



I have 204 contacts right now. I have a friend with a Kyocera Dura, and it 
is so annoying that she loses contacts, and she has only about 25-30. I'd be 
calling Apple and complaining if I lost contacts. I probably wouldn't if I 
had six or eight hundred or something like that. I guess you know, that you 
can put all four fingers at the bottom of the screen to see how many 
contacts you have?


To get the first name first, I went to Contacts in Settings, and I think the 
last entry was where I set them. There were two parts to it, and I think I 
had to experiment to get it right. Fortunately, when I got my new phone, 
everything imported like I had it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Esther

Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section 
Index?


I like first name first as well. I've also heard different theories on how 
many contacts you should have on your phone. Someone told me you should only 
have 100, well others said you could have as many as possible. I would like 
to know what you folks think. Some of my disappear and I have to re-enter 
them. I don't know what causes this. Thanks everyone. Esther



Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+


  On May 26, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



  I like mine first name first. The best I remember, in Contacts in 
Settings, there are two settings that have to be set to make this work. I'd 
have to fool around with it to make it work, but, first name first is 
definitely my arrangement of choice.


  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner

  Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 6:20 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in 
Section Index?


  That setting is under settings, contacts.
  Do you want it to alphabetize by last name, but show first then last in 
the list?

  That used to be the default, but check in your settings to be sure.


  Richard

  Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from 
happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."




  Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
  www.turner42.com




 On May 25, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Shirley Baker  
wrote:




 How do you change the contacts in the section index so your first 
name will show first and your last name last? I used to know how to change 
it but forgot. Please remind me.


 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section Index?

[Arlene]

Esther, possibly someone may have answered your question already about the 
kyosera dura xv
which is  a flip phone, it's one of the more rugged flip phones that costs 
about $264. and it's amoungst some other  phones that are quite accessible with 
the text to speech. Especially when it comes to
writing texts, emails, and writing in the notepade since you could easily get 
to the options for the lower case letters, upper case letters, for the symbols, 
and numbers.
I have the cadence, another flip phone made by kyozera and never had any loss 
of contacts.
As far as our iPhones, they each have 300 contacts and never lost any of the 
contacts.

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section 
Index?


  hi, everyone, thanks for all your responses. Excuse my ignorance, but what is 
 kyozera dura? 


  Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+



On May 26, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:


I have 204 contacts right now. I have a friend with a Kyocera Dura, and it 
is so annoying that she loses contacts, and she has only about 25-30. I'd be 
calling Apple and complaining if I lost contacts. I probably wouldn't if I had 
six or eight hundred or something like that. I guess you know, that you can put 
all four fingers at the bottom of the screen to see how many contacts you have? 

To get the first name first, I went to Contacts in Settings, and I think 
the last entry was where I set them. There were two parts to it, and I think I 
had to experiment to get it right. Fortunately, when I got my new phone, 
everything imported like I had it. 

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Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 11:46 AM
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Section Index?

I like first name first as well. I've also heard different theories on how 
many contacts you should have on your phone. Someone told me you should only 
have 100, well others said you could have as many as possible. I would like to 
know what you folks think. Some of my disappear and I have to re-enter them. I 
don't know what causes this. Thanks everyone. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+


   On May 26, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
   
   

   I like mine first name first. The best I remember, in Contacts in 
Settings, there are two settings that have to be set to make this work. I'd 
have to fool around with it to make it work, but, first name first is 
definitely my arrangement of choice. 
   
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   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
   Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 6:20 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in 
Section Index?
   
   That setting is under settings, contacts. 
   Do you want it to alphabetize by last name, but show first then last in 
the list?
   That used to be the default, but check in your settings to be sure.
   
   
   Richard
   
   Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from 
happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."
   
   
   
   Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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  On May 25, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Shirley Baker  
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  How do you change the contacts in the section index so your first 
name will show first and your last name last? I used to know how to change it 
but forgot. Please remind me.
  
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Re: Demo and Review of the iPhone SE 2020 Using VoiceOver

[Arlene]

Alan, I meant to write you earlier, way early this morning, but this link for 
the se 2020 worked for us. Thanks again.

Arlene
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 9:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Demo and Review of the iPhone SE 2020 Using VoiceOver


  Mike,


  I'm attempting to share the David Woodbridge SE 2020 podcast from the 
Overcast app but I have no clue whether it will work. Here it is:


  https://overcast.fm/+LUe-nBPtg 




  Alan Lemly


  Sent from my iPhone


On May 21, 2020, at 10:32 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


 
This link didn't work for me, got the 404 this webpage doesn't exist 
message no matter what browser or version of Jaws I use.  Is there another link 
that will play this file?  The same link from Top Tech Tidbits didn't work 
either.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 5:54 AM
Subject: Demo and Review of the iPhone SE 2020 Using VoiceOver


I thought some of you would be interested in this?

Demo and Review of the iPhone SE 2020 Using VoiceOver
David Woodbridge gives this phone a very favorable review:
https://bit.ly/3e5VfPX


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Re: Money Reader

[Arlene]

Yes, we are using the itunes for business.
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  I think Arlene maybe using iTunes for Business or whatever that legacy 
version is called which still allows you to back up apps. Unless you are using 
that version of iTunes I don’t think you can get back any app which is no 
longer in the app store.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:44 AM
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  Thanks for letting me know that. If I have trouble with the EyeNote app then 
I will probably restore from my encrypted back up so I can get the money reader 
back on my phone.

  Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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On Apr 26, 2020, at 10:15 PM, Arlene  wrote:

Kim, with our itunes back up we were able to restore money reader, so you 
can do that.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Kimber Gardner" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Money Reader





  I was just going to ask about the money reader app. I saw that it was

  no longer in the app store, but was wondering if I could restore it

  from my encrypted backup.

   

  If not, I'll be using Eyenote from now on.

   

  Kim

   

  On 4/26/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Sadly, Money Reader seems to be gone.

It did not transfer to my new phone.

Its a good thing that EyeNote works so well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

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Re: Any app that makes sounds every second?

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You could do it by the minute with your iPhone by unlocking your phone, 
focusing on the clock. Leave the focus there, you should get a minute by 
minute announcement. At least it works for us.

Wayne and Arlene

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What, you mean like a clock?

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Hello all.   Is there any built in utility in iPhone or any app that 
indicates the passing of seconds?   There used to be a radio station on 
short wave which used to chime every second in an ounce time every 15 
minutes




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Re: Money Reader

[Arlene]

Kim, with our itunes back up we were able to restore money reader, so you 
can do that.


Arlene and Wayne


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To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Money Reader



I was just going to ask about the money reader app. I saw that it was
no longer in the app store, but was wondering if I could restore it
from my encrypted backup.

If not, I'll be using Eyenote from now on.

Kim

On 4/26/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Sadly, Money Reader seems to be gone.
It did not transfer to my new phone.
Its a good thing that EyeNote works so well.




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

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Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Arlene]

That's the best idea using your itunes backup to set up your new se 2020.
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from 
scratch - all help appreciated



Gera,

I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup 
when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing 
response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only 
ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted 
iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps 
from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a 
backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer.


Alan Lemly

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Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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scratch - all help appreciated


Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone 
transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I 
wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred 
everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without 
having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the 
essence then, in usin the phone to phone method?


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty  
escribi :


?Richard and others,

If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier,

Once you have vo switched on,
And your sim card in,
You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close
to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to 
talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be 
instigated behind the seens.


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scratch - all help appreciated

As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct.
A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to 
remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push 
too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great 
if the sim removal tool is not in the box.
Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start 
VoiceOver.
The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any 
lingering problems, they will be inherited.
I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my 
computer.
The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like 
passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details.
I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me 
through it.

Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own.
But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think.
I'll be calling my carrier to double check.




Richard



On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

?Eleanor,



I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 
and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've 
never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your 
questions.




My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be 
able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see 
below for other steps you need to do before this.




I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing 
anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over 
the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my 
opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted 
iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. 
Since your Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud 
backup before setting up your new SE. To do so:




1.  From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, 
double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store.


2.  Swipe to iCloud and double tap.

3.  Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and 
double tap.


4.  Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in 
the list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button 
and double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a 
few minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the 
latest backup when it's done.




I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted 
iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't 

Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Arlene]

Alan, those instructions sound helpful and good. While I haven't set up  any 
of our se phones when new, and put sim cards in the phones, Wayne's done 
that . He does really well with putting the sim card in the phone and I'm 
glad he can do that well, since just the thought of it makes me nervous. 
From listening to him setting up the phones and when he told me how he 
handles putting the sim card in, your instructions  are very clear, and 
Wayne said you explained very well how to do it. and the Turtles are one of 
my most favorite groups, and I think Eleanor is swell too. I don't know if 
I'll ever switch or put in a new sim card, as I said just the thought of it 
makes me nervous, but the most important thing to do, while you're doing the 
inserting of the sim card, just make sure to do it over something, just in 
case it falls, this way if you're doing it over a box or table you'll be 
able to find it.  I think I'll have Wayne show me how to do it, it would 
probably be a good thing to get use to doing for when I might need too.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from 
scratch - all help appreciated



Eleanor,



I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and 
will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never 
transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your 
questions.




My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be 
able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see 
below for other steps you need to do before this.




I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing 
anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the 
air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my 
opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes 
backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your 
Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before 
setting up your new SE. To do so:




1.  From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, 
double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store.


2.  Swipe to iCloud and double tap.

3.  Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and 
double tap.


4.  Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the 
list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and 
double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few 
minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest 
backup when it's done.




I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted 
iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you 
can have too many backups.




I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones 
came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan 
recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your 
iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM  release hole will 
be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will 
need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have 
something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its 
tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin 
board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed 
pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal 
over a tray with raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be 
removed should it decide to leap out. This is really all the practical 
advice I can give since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding 
is that they only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be 
notched to provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will 
be able to offer much more detailed advice.




Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember 
exactly what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe it 
offers you the choice of setting it up as a new device or from restoring a 
backup. I always restore from a backup. Also, I'm not sure when the best 
time is for you to transfer your SIM from your iPhone 8 to your new SE. My 
cautionary side tells me to do this after the new phone is set up so you'll 
have a device that works until you're ready to make the new one a workable 
cell phone. I would think all your apps and settings should download from 
the cloud just fine and the new SE would work like a WiFi only device until 
you transfer the SIM to it but others more experienced than I will have to 
comment on this.




I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my

Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom

[Arlene]

Unfortunately Wayne and I missed the meeting too. By time we were checking 
email saturday night, the chat was over. We're looking forward to going to 
the next  chat Mark sets up for us. The chat is very much an addition to the 
list, from time to time, whenever we would have a chat, and almost getting 
to know one another more and hearing one another's voices.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Arrigo" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom


Sorry I missed the meeting, guess I should check my email more often, lol. 
Would love to try that sometime.



On Apr 18, 2020, at 3:45 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/73808093761?pwd=Ly9YeWsvMWFabWM4S21wczVaUHB3Zz09

Meeting ID: 738 0809 3761
Password: 5PkK79

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Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[Arlene]

Richard, you're totally right, it was purely a big embarrassing mistake of me 
sending that message to Duane. The cause of me making that mistake of which I 
should have been extra careful, with a coincidence on the same day, Mark set up 
the zoom chat for us, the members of this list and Duane was hosting a zoom 
chat for our school friends, New york institute for the blind. So as it turns 
out Duane wrote a message here to the phone list about the zoom chat for the 
members of this list, and I had the private message from him to me inviting me 
to our school chat which took place last night. So unfortunately I replied to 
the wrong message with not taking the second it would have taken to make sure I 
was replying to the right message. I was in a bit of a hurry since I had a 
question for one of our friends that was going on the chat, but in times like 
that you think you're so sure, but that's a lesson to make sure it's the right 
message.  This was awful for this to happen, and understandibly I dreaded going 
through my email, but yes it was an awful and worst mistake, and this never 
happened to me before, I'm usually very carefull before I send a message, with 
a majority of messages I always go down a few lines to see the previous message 
header. I normally always do that, and it's probably a good thing to do, as in 
a situation like saturday. If I had done that this never would have happened.

As far as the list turning into a chat list, I think Mark will handle that well 
as he does with other matters that crop up. I think Mark keeps this list very 
organized and in check, in handling matters. This list is such a treasure with 
sharing solutions we figure out, answering questions, and asking for help. 
Thank you, Mark, and I apologize to everyone for the biggest email mistake I 
ever made, because that's what it was, purely a mistake, having 2 messages from 
the same individual, one to this list and the other message, a private message 
to me. So I hope this thread conversation of a mistaken message could be put to 
rest, and thank you, Mark, Richard, and everyone for your understanding and 
listening.

Arlene


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 8:07 AM
  Subject: Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m


  It could be Arleen was thinking she was writing directly to Dwayne; but you 
are right. 
  However, it seems like this list is morphing into a social chat list instead 
of what it was intended to be and the moderator kicked that door more wide open 
with the Zoom chat.
  Yet, the door was slammed shut when people were talking about the stimulus 
checks, which was also nothing to do with the iPhone.
  Maybe Mark needs to start a different list for chatting rather than dealing 
with iPhones.



  Richard




  (Sent from my iPhone SE)

  C






On Apr 19, 2020, at 5:53 AM, alia robinson  wrote:


this message doesn’t have to do with anything!

On Apr 19, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Arlene  wrote:

Duane, Thank you, for the invitation to the school chat tonight. As much as 
I would love to talk to you and many of our friends, with having many good 
memories of everyone, it's something I can't do now. It's something that is not 
best for me to do now. I don't have any bitter feelings for anyone, not even 
Charlie, jeff, don and florence. joining the school list isn't best for me 
neither. I only know of Florence and Don from the list. Charlie and jeff I know 
from upper school and I also know Jeff during the time he was in lower school. 
Jeff I knew as a really fine individual, and to me that hasn't changed. What I 
know of Charlie was that he was very opiniated and straight forward which is no 
fault in a personality, and you've got to appreciate some amount of straight 
forwardness to know exactly what someone thinks. I didn't know Charlie quite as 
well as I knew jeff, but never thought poorly of Charlie. This might sound like 
small beans of sort, and trivial, though it's happened more than once, that 
Charlie would have some sort of sarcastic, somewhat making a joke of messages 
written to the list. It didn't just happen with some messages I wrote, it 
happened with messages  from some other nyi friends on the list. So I'm not the 
only person that noticed his comments and don't like it no better than I do, 
though some of them are still on the list. And God Bless those friends that 
being on the list keeps them there and communicating with everyone even though, 
actually Charlie's never posted that much as long as he's been on the list. 
I've had my full of these wisecracking comments to me, and some others, and it 
means even more when it happens to you, it's real to you. So the pattern is 
when he had his wisecracking, so clever comment to something I wrote, Charlie 
making his comment was the big brother, the gang leader of sorts. Then Jeff 
would come along with his

Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[Arlene]

Sorry, this was suppose to me a private message, I had a few private message 
from Duane and replied to the wrong oen, how I don't know this is awful.
- Original Message - 
From: "Arlene" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m


Duane, Thank you, for the invitation to the school chat tonight. As much as
I would love to talk to you and many of our friends, with having many good
memories of everyone, it's something I can't do now. It's something that is
not best for me to do now. I don't have any bitter feelings for anyone, not
even Charlie, jeff, don and florence. joining the school list isn't best for
me neither. I only know of Florence and Don from the list. Charlie and jeff
I know from upper school and I also know Jeff during the time he was in
lower school. Jeff I knew as a really fine individual, and to me that hasn't
changed. What I know of Charlie was that he was very opiniated and straight
forward which is no fault in a personality, and you've got to appreciate
some amount of straight forwardness to know exactly what someone thinks. I
didn't know Charlie quite as well as I knew jeff, but never thought poorly
of Charlie. This might sound like small beans of sort, and trivial, though
it's happened more than once, that Charlie would have some sort of
sarcastic, somewhat making a joke of messages written to the list. It didn't
just happen with some messages I wrote, it happened with messages  from some
other nyi friends on the list. So I'm not the only person that noticed his
comments and don't like it no better than I do, though some of them are
still on the list. And God Bless those friends that being on the list keeps
them there and communicating with everyone even though, actually Charlie's
never posted that much as long as he's been on the list. I've had my full of
these wisecracking comments to me, and some others, and it means even more
when it happens to you, it's real to you. So the pattern is when he had his
wisecracking, so clever comment to something I wrote, Charlie making his
comment was the big brother, the gang leader of sorts. Then Jeff would come
along with his message saying he agreed with Charlie, and one or 2 times Don
who I don't know in person make some stupid comment. This happened with
Charlie and jeff way to many times for me with charlie's wisecracking
message and Jeff following that he agrees. It truly is fine if neither one
of them think well of me, or even anyone else on the list, but the list
isn't the place for this kind of communication to make it plain that 1 or 2
individuals don't think well of some others on the list. It's just going to
drive school friends away, when they've had their full of it. It's to the
point, I have no desire to visit school, which breaks my heart not to visit
if I was ever back there, but I have no desire due to this kind of
communication on the list which very much breaks my heart more. I'm not on
face book and never had the desire to go on it, though it's great all of you
have the nyi group that's even bigger on face book. Donna and Sandy are 2
school friends that don't exactly think well of Charlie's wisecracking
messages. I also had my full of Florence who I think resents me and doesn't
think well of me, and that's fine if she doesn't think well of me. A number
of times  she would reply to my messages, and these weren't even messages
directed at her where she seemed to misunderstand what I was saying or as if
I said something wrong. Sandy mentioned to me that Florence could be that
way to school friends at times, remembering when she knew her in school
which isn't faulting Florence, it's just her way of communicating and
personality. So between these messages from Charlie, Jeff and florence more
so it's like someone pinching me all of a sudden, I've jud had my full of
it, it's over. It's over, as much as I treasure you, and many other school
friends of ours. and I have my special memories which is good enough for me
now.

Sandy heard from Margaret about Craig having a fall. I hope he's doing
better. I didn't think you would mind, but I gave Sandy your phone number
and email address in case she wanted to write to you or call you to find out
how Craig was doing.Craig is in my prayers, and you being a brotherly friend
to him, you're in my prayers too.

I feel kind of stupid now, but that singer wasn't my brother-in-law. It was
a song that Paul picked out for everyone to hear. The way my sister wrote
the message, I thought it was one of Paul's songs. I'll give you the name of
the man that was singing in another message, along with music from my
brother-in-law, which again, I'll need to do in another message.

Duane, thank you for keeping me in mind and including me in invitation, and
i would like to keep in touch with you. I think it's wonderful about how
you, steve and Mario are continuing to take turns doing the school chats.

Arlene

Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[Arlene]

Duane, Thank you, for the invitation to the school chat tonight. As much as 
I would love to talk to you and many of our friends, with having many good 
memories of everyone, it's something I can't do now. It's something that is 
not best for me to do now. I don't have any bitter feelings for anyone, not 
even Charlie, jeff, don and florence. joining the school list isn't best for 
me neither. I only know of Florence and Don from the list. Charlie and jeff 
I know from upper school and I also know Jeff during the time he was in 
lower school. Jeff I knew as a really fine individual, and to me that hasn't 
changed. What I know of Charlie was that he was very opiniated and straight 
forward which is no fault in a personality, and you've got to appreciate 
some amount of straight forwardness to know exactly what someone thinks. I 
didn't know Charlie quite as well as I knew jeff, but never thought poorly 
of Charlie. This might sound like small beans of sort, and trivial, though 
it's happened more than once, that Charlie would have some sort of 
sarcastic, somewhat making a joke of messages written to the list. It didn't 
just happen with some messages I wrote, it happened with messages  from some 
other nyi friends on the list. So I'm not the only person that noticed his 
comments and don't like it no better than I do, though some of them are 
still on the list. And God Bless those friends that being on the list keeps 
them there and communicating with everyone even though, actually Charlie's 
never posted that much as long as he's been on the list. I've had my full of 
these wisecracking comments to me, and some others, and it means even more 
when it happens to you, it's real to you. So the pattern is when he had his 
wisecracking, so clever comment to something I wrote, Charlie making his 
comment was the big brother, the gang leader of sorts. Then Jeff would come 
along with his message saying he agreed with Charlie, and one or 2 times Don 
who I don't know in person make some stupid comment. This happened with 
Charlie and jeff way to many times for me with charlie's wisecracking 
message and Jeff following that he agrees. It truly is fine if neither one 
of them think well of me, or even anyone else on the list, but the list 
isn't the place for this kind of communication to make it plain that 1 or 2 
individuals don't think well of some others on the list. It's just going to 
drive school friends away, when they've had their full of it. It's to the 
point, I have no desire to visit school, which breaks my heart not to visit 
if I was ever back there, but I have no desire due to this kind of 
communication on the list which very much breaks my heart more. I'm not on 
face book and never had the desire to go on it, though it's great all of you 
have the nyi group that's even bigger on face book. Donna and Sandy are 2 
school friends that don't exactly think well of Charlie's wisecracking 
messages. I also had my full of Florence who I think resents me and doesn't 
think well of me, and that's fine if she doesn't think well of me. A number 
of times  she would reply to my messages, and these weren't even messages 
directed at her where she seemed to misunderstand what I was saying or as if 
I said something wrong. Sandy mentioned to me that Florence could be that 
way to school friends at times, remembering when she knew her in school 
which isn't faulting Florence, it's just her way of communicating and 
personality. So between these messages from Charlie, Jeff and florence more 
so it's like someone pinching me all of a sudden, I've jud had my full of 
it, it's over. It's over, as much as I treasure you, and many other school 
friends of ours. and I have my special memories which is good enough for me 
now.


Sandy heard from Margaret about Craig having a fall. I hope he's doing 
better. I didn't think you would mind, but I gave Sandy your phone number 
and email address in case she wanted to write to you or call you to find out 
how Craig was doing.Craig is in my prayers, and you being a brotherly friend 
to him, you're in my prayers too.


I feel kind of stupid now, but that singer wasn't my brother-in-law. It was 
a song that Paul picked out for everyone to hear. The way my sister wrote 
the message, I thought it was one of Paul's songs. I'll give you the name of 
the man that was singing in another message, along with music from my 
brother-in-law, which again, I'll need to do in another message.


Duane, thank you for keeping me in mind and including me in invitation, and 
i would like to keep in touch with you. I think it's wonderful about how 
you, steve and Mario are continuing to take turns doing the school chats.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Duane Steele" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m


I love Zoom, and have a regular account that I use for all kinds of 
meetings.

Re: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

[Arlene]

Mark, thanks for your response. I'll continue to work on itunes to see if I 
could come up with something.


Wayne
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:23 PM
Subject: RE: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users


Hello Wayne,

Thank you for such a detailed description of your excellent troubleshooting 
steps.


You, in fact, did exactly what I was planning on doing before I began losing 
hope for the continuation of iTunes 12.6.x for Windows.


You saved me and others a great deal of time and frustration by attempting 
to resolve this.


Even though you were unsuccessful, I say to you, Bravo! For taking the 
initiative on this.


Sincerely,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Mark, when you began this conversation about not being able to make a backup 
of your iPhone with itunes,  since I hadn't made a back up of my iPhone I 
decided to give it a try using the same itunes version you are using. Our 
iPhones are se phones, and the operating system is windows 7 64. I couldn't 
back up either. It kept comming up with an eror message, saying something 
like, the mobile application stopped working. It gave you the choice to 
check online for a solution and close the program, or just close the 
program. I went to uninstalled itunes, it gave me the option to uninstall or 
repair itunes. I chose repair, that didn't do any good, so I uninstalled 
itunes. then I reinstalled itunes, the new installation ended up with the 
same results. So I decided  to leave itunes installed and then I installed 
imazing, and I was able to back up the phone with no problem. However, I 
would rather have a reliable working version of itunes to back up and 
restore with. If you find one, Please let all of us know. Thank you.


Wayne


- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 11:05 PM
Subject: RE: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users


Hello Julian,

I am glad you can still perform a backup on your Windows PC.

You are using an X R.  I am using an 8 Plus.  There must be some difference,
there.

I thought about re-installing this version of iTunes over my current version
but, now that I think about it, there is really no need for me to hang onto
this version since I rarely copy apps to the phone from my PC.  Mind you, I
still like to write reviews via iTunes for Windows but, more often than not,
I find myself using my iPad Pro to write reviews.

Alas, I am resigned to the idea that I will need to update to the latest
version of iTunes for Windows before purchasing my next phone.

iTunes 12.6.x for Windows, it was a great run while it lasted (smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Julian
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 9:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Hi Mark,

I am running iOS 13.4.1 on my iPhone XR and my computer is Windows 7 running
the latest version of the iTunes software for business that you shared on
this list years ago.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:32 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Julian,

Either you are using the latest version of iTunes for Windows or you are
not running the latest version of iOS on your Apple device. Or, you could
have just gotten lucky (smile).

Mark

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Julian
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Hello all,

This is strange. I was successfully able to back up my phone to my
computer earlier this afternoon using this exact version of the business
version of iTunes.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 12, 2020, at 5:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Simon,

I am using the business version to which the article refers.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Hi Mark,

Any chance your using the business version of itunes and the article
speaks of the consumer version.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
Taylor
Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Hello All,

I think I know the answer but just want to confirm:

For quite some time, I have not been able to backup my 8 Plus via iTunes
12.6.5.3 on my Windows computer.

When I go to the related Apple web article, I see that t

Re: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

[Arlene]

Mark, when you began this conversation about not being able to make a backup 
of your iPhone with itunes,  since I hadn't made a back up of my iPhone I 
decided to give it a try using the same itunes version you are using. Our 
iPhones are se phones, and the operating system is windows 7 64. I couldn't 
back up either. It kept comming up with an eror message, saying something 
like, the mobile application stopped working. It gave you the choice to 
check online for a solution and close the program, or just close the 
program. I went to uninstalled itunes, it gave me the option to uninstall or 
repair itunes. I chose repair, that didn't do any good, so I uninstalled 
itunes. then I reinstalled itunes, the new installation ended up with the 
same results. So I decided  to leave itunes installed and then I installed 
imazing, and I was able to back up the phone with no problem. However, I 
would rather have a reliable working version of itunes to back up and 
restore with. If you find one, Please let all of us know. Thank you.


Wayne


- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 11:05 PM
Subject: RE: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users


Hello Julian,

I am glad you can still perform a backup on your Windows PC.

You are using an X R.  I am using an 8 Plus.  There must be some difference, 
there.


I thought about re-installing this version of iTunes over my current version 
but, now that I think about it, there is really no need for me to hang onto 
this version since I rarely copy apps to the phone from my PC.  Mind you, I 
still like to write reviews via iTunes for Windows but, more often than not, 
I find myself using my iPad Pro to write reviews.


Alas, I am resigned to the idea that I will need to update to the latest 
version of iTunes for Windows before purchasing my next phone.


iTunes 12.6.x for Windows, it was a great run while it lasted (smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Julian

Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 9:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Hi Mark,

I am running iOS 13.4.1 on my iPhone XR and my computer is Windows 7 running 
the latest version of the iTunes software for business that you shared on 
this list years ago.


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:32 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Julian,

Either you are using the latest version of iTunes for Windows or you are 
not running the latest version of iOS on your Apple device. Or, you could 
have just gotten lucky (smile).


Mark

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Julian

Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Hello all,

This is strange. I was successfully able to back up my phone to my 
computer earlier this afternoon using this exact version of the business 
version of iTunes.


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 12, 2020, at 5:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Simon,

I am using the business version to which the article refers.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Hi Mark,

Any chance your using the business version of itunes and the article 
speaks of the consumer version.





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for iTunes 12.6.5.3 for Windows Users

Hello All,

I think I know the answer but just want to confirm:

For quite some time, I have not been able to backup my 8 Plus via iTunes
12.6.5.3 on my Windows computer.

When I go to the related Apple web article, I see that the article 
referring to this version of iTunes has been archived and will no longer 
be updated.


Before I give in and install the latest version of iTunes for Windows, I 
want to make absolutely certain that there is not a workaround for 
getting my 8 Plus to backup to this version of iTunes for Windows.


I mean, I knew this day would come but I am surprised that it came in the 
middle of an OS cicle as opposed to the beginning of a new one but .


As always, all replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Re: Accessible thermometer

[Arlene]

The connection was about cleaning the thermometer.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Janet Bell 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 10:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer


  please explain to me the connection between alcohol and the talking 
thermometer?  Janet

  From: Andy Baracco 
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 9:36 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

  Sad waste of good booze!
  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Arlene 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

That Bacardi 150 proof rum, would work, or go to your Liquor store and get 
190 percent proof ever clear,  pure alcohol.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Moore 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:43 PM
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

  I suspect that Bacardi 150 proof rum would do the trick.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 1:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  Well, my husband was out today to the store, actually two of them, and 
there were no cleaning supplies to be had. No alcohol. And online, Knogo. I 
don’t know who’s buying all this alcohol.

   

  Sent from my iPhone





  On Apr 12, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

Hi Mary,

 

If you get yours back you should just wash it with warm water and soap, 
then let it sit for 3 or 4 days and there won’t be any danger COVID-19 is still 
live on it.

Can you really not get pharmaceutical grade alcohol? For a while 
alcohol based hand sanitizer here was scarce and the gel type still seems to 
be, but our local sanitary supply business now had liquid hand sanitizer in 
little spray bottles and 4 L (just over 1 Gallon) refills, I bought one of 
those for my store and that should last for a while.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

Thanks for the info. I’m definitely keeping the information about the 
Thermo. Not going to help me now. I guess I can just hope I don’t get the 
bloody thing. Or if I can actually find rubbing alcohol, I would at least have 
something to disinfect mine when it comes back.

 

Sent from my iPhone






  On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

   

  Well, you learn something every day.

  I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got 
quite a few ranging in price from $60ish to over $200.

  
https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer

   

   

   

  Richard

  "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of terrie...@twc.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

   

  The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead 
thermometers that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned 
across it. 

  Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth 
thermometers.

  Terrie

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. 

  But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have 
to keep looking until they find a supplier that still has some.

   

  Richard

   

  (Sent from my iPhone SE)

  C

   

   

On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com" 
 wrote:

 

Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, 
that works with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?

Terrie 
Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer 
these days if multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you 
could disinfect i

Re: Accessible thermometer

[Arlene]

That's good, Simon.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:36 PM
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer


  Neither of those stores here in NZ,

   

  We’ve got other things that do similar roles.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 11:34 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  Oh no, I wouldn't want to do that. Actually the 91 percent alcohol is sold at 
walmart and Target, if you have either one of those stores. We haven't checked 
those stores for the alcohol in a while, so I don't know if it's out of stock 
too.

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:30 PM

Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Hell don’t drink that stuff,

 

It’s possible rubbing alcohol will make you go blind if you drink it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

Simon, that's funny, you had me laughing. Actually we usually buy the 91 
percent rubbing alcohol from sams, but sams has been out of this alcohol for 
about 2 or 3 weeks now.

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Simon A Fogarty 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:18 PM

  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

   

  What, 

  You have 2 husbands that go shopping for alcohol for you?

   

  Waw, thought that only happened in middle eastern countrys.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
  Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 5:32 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  Well, my husband was out today to the store, actually two of them, and 
there were no cleaning supplies to be had. No alcohol. And online, Knogo. I 
don’t know who’s buying all this alcohol.

   

  Sent from my iPhone

   

On Apr 12, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

Hi Mary,

 

If you get yours back you should just wash it with warm water and soap, 
then let it sit for 3 or 4 days and there won’t be any danger COVID-19 is still 
live on it.

Can you really not get pharmaceutical grade alcohol? For a while 
alcohol based hand sanitizer here was scarce and the gel type still seems to 
be, but our local sanitary supply business now had liquid hand sanitizer in 
little spray bottles and 4 L (just over 1 Gallon) refills, I bought one of 
those for my store and that should last for a while.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

Thanks for the info. I’m definitely keeping the information about the 
Thermo. Not going to help me now. I guess I can just hope I don’t get the 
bloody thing. Or if I can actually find rubbing alcohol, I would at least have 
something to disinfect mine when it comes back.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

  On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

   

  Well, you learn something every day.

  I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got 
quite a few ranging in price from $60ish to over $200.

  
https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer

   

   

   

  Richard

  "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of terrie...@twc.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

   

  The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead 
thermometers that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned 
across it. 

  Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth 
thermometers.

  Terrie

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. 

  But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have 
to keep looking until they find a supplier that still has some.

   

  Richard

   

  (Sent from my iPhone SE)

  C

   

   

   

Re: Accessible thermometer

[Arlene]

Oh no, I wouldn't want to do that. Actually the 91 percent alcohol is sold at 
walmart and Target, if you have either one of those stores. We haven't checked 
those stores for the alcohol in a while, so I don't know if it's out of stock 
too.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:30 PM
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer


  Hell don’t drink that stuff,

   

  It’s possible rubbing alcohol will make you go blind if you drink it.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 11:27 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  Simon, that's funny, you had me laughing. Actually we usually buy the 91 
percent rubbing alcohol from sams, but sams has been out of this alcohol for 
about 2 or 3 weeks now.

   

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:18 PM

Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

What, 

You have 2 husbands that go shopping for alcohol for you?

 

Waw, thought that only happened in middle eastern countrys.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 5:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

Well, my husband was out today to the store, actually two of them, and 
there were no cleaning supplies to be had. No alcohol. And online, Knogo. I 
don’t know who’s buying all this alcohol.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

  On Apr 12, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

   

  Hi Mary,

   

  If you get yours back you should just wash it with warm water and soap, 
then let it sit for 3 or 4 days and there won’t be any danger COVID-19 is still 
live on it.

  Can you really not get pharmaceutical grade alcohol? For a while alcohol 
based hand sanitizer here was scarce and the gel type still seems to be, but 
our local sanitary supply business now had liquid hand sanitizer in little 
spray bottles and 4 L (just over 1 Gallon) refills, I bought one of those for 
my store and that should last for a while.

   

  Best regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  Thanks for the info. I’m definitely keeping the information about the 
Thermo. Not going to help me now. I guess I can just hope I don’t get the 
bloody thing. Or if I can actually find rubbing alcohol, I would at least have 
something to disinfect mine when it comes back.

   

  Sent from my iPhone





On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

 

Well, you learn something every day.

I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got quite 
a few ranging in price from $60ish to over $200.


https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead 
thermometers that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned 
across it. 

Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth thermometers.

Terrie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. 

But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have 
to keep looking until they find a supplier that still has some.

 

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C

 

 

  On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com"  
wrote:

   

  Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, 
that works with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?

  Terrie 
  Terlau

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

   

  Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer 
these days if multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you 
could di

Re: Accessible thermometer

[Arlene]

Simon, that's funny, you had me laughing. Actually we usually buy the 91 
percent rubbing alcohol from sams, but sams has been out of this alcohol for 
about 2 or 3 weeks now.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:18 PM
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer


  What, 

  You have 2 husbands that go shopping for alcohol for you?

   

  Waw, thought that only happened in middle eastern countrys.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
  Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 5:32 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  Well, my husband was out today to the store, actually two of them, and there 
were no cleaning supplies to be had. No alcohol. And online, Knogo. I don’t 
know who’s buying all this alcohol.

   

  Sent from my iPhone





On Apr 12, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

Hi Mary,

 

If you get yours back you should just wash it with warm water and soap, 
then let it sit for 3 or 4 days and there won’t be any danger COVID-19 is still 
live on it.

Can you really not get pharmaceutical grade alcohol? For a while alcohol 
based hand sanitizer here was scarce and the gel type still seems to be, but 
our local sanitary supply business now had liquid hand sanitizer in little 
spray bottles and 4 L (just over 1 Gallon) refills, I bought one of those for 
my store and that should last for a while.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

Thanks for the info. I’m definitely keeping the information about the 
Thermo. Not going to help me now. I guess I can just hope I don’t get the 
bloody thing. Or if I can actually find rubbing alcohol, I would at least have 
something to disinfect mine when it comes back.

 

Sent from my iPhone






  On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

   

  Well, you learn something every day.

  I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got quite a 
few ranging in price from $60ish to over $200.

  
https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer

   

   

   

  Richard

  "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

   

  The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead 
thermometers that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned 
across it. 

  Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth thermometers.

  Terrie

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. 

  But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have to 
keep looking until they find a supplier that still has some.

   

  Richard

   

  (Sent from my iPhone SE)

  C

   

   

On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com"  
wrote:

 

Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, that 
works with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?

Terrie 
Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer these 
days if multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you could 
disinfect it each time somebody used it, but the contactless thermometers are 
definitely a better option right now and probably even if there weren’t a 
COVID-19 virus, after all, if you think you have a fever you probably want to 
avoid giving whatever causes it to anybody else. Of course that is not an issue 
if you are only 1 person who uses it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Good to know.

The Kinsa is an under the tongue thermometer.  At least, the older 
model I have is and I’m pretty sure the Bluetooth one is as well.

I’ll keep this info for reference though.  Sounds excellent.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - 

Re: Accessible thermometer

[Arlene]

That Bacardi 150 proof rum, would work, or go to your Liquor store and get 190 
percent proof ever clear,  pure alcohol.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Moore 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:43 PM
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer


  I suspect that Bacardi 150 proof rum would do the trick.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 1:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  Well, my husband was out today to the store, actually two of them, and there 
were no cleaning supplies to be had. No alcohol. And online, Knogo. I don’t 
know who’s buying all this alcohol.

   

  Sent from my iPhone





  On Apr 12, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

Hi Mary,

 

If you get yours back you should just wash it with warm water and soap, 
then let it sit for 3 or 4 days and there won’t be any danger COVID-19 is still 
live on it.

Can you really not get pharmaceutical grade alcohol? For a while alcohol 
based hand sanitizer here was scarce and the gel type still seems to be, but 
our local sanitary supply business now had liquid hand sanitizer in little 
spray bottles and 4 L (just over 1 Gallon) refills, I bought one of those for 
my store and that should last for a while.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

Thanks for the info. I’m definitely keeping the information about the 
Thermo. Not going to help me now. I guess I can just hope I don’t get the 
bloody thing. Or if I can actually find rubbing alcohol, I would at least have 
something to disinfect mine when it comes back.

 

Sent from my iPhone






  On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

   

  Well, you learn something every day.

  I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got quite a 
few ranging in price from $60ish to over $200.

  
https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer

   

   

   

  Richard

  "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

   

  The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead 
thermometers that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned 
across it. 

  Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth thermometers.

  Terrie

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

   

  I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. 

  But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have to 
keep looking until they find a supplier that still has some.

   

  Richard

   

  (Sent from my iPhone SE)

  C

   

   

On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com"  
wrote:

 

Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, that 
works with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?

Terrie 
Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer these 
days if multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you could 
disinfect it each time somebody used it, but the contactless thermometers are 
definitely a better option right now and probably even if there weren’t a 
COVID-19 virus, after all, if you think you have a fever you probably want to 
avoid giving whatever causes it to anybody else. Of course that is not an issue 
if you are only 1 person who uses it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Good to know.

The Kinsa is an under the tongue thermometer.  At least, the older 
model I have is and I’m pretty sure the Bluetooth one is as well.

I’ll keep this info for reference though.  Sounds excellent.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.

 

 

From: 

Re: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before

[Arlene]

John, exactly, you're right it's all about choices and the choices that are 
most accessible.
- Original Message - 
From: "John Panarese" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2020 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before


  I think that’s the essence of some of the initial comments that are being 
missed by some. It’s not a matter of not wanting these apps to be 
accessible. I have been on a personal crusade for a long time to push 
getting applications accessible so that the blind have equal footing when it 
comes to accessing them. My point several messages ago is that I find simply 
calling in my orders is so much easier and faster. Yes, ordering online or 
through an app, even if it’s accessible, is time consuming and even 
frustrating in some instances. It takes me less than a minute to call in my 
order to one of the two pizza places still open around me, and I also have 
the luxury of easily calling them back if something is wrong with the order. 
That’s just the basic difference to me in my world. I’ve used all of the 
delivery apps with mixed success, so I am in no way saying that we, as the 
blind community, should not push for their accessibility.



Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT





On Apr 4, 2020, at 2:59 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I pretty much always order pizza or a sandwich via phone.  I've got a
store near by called Caseys and although I did order online once, it
was really more trouble then it was worth.  I do get the reward
offers, but I rarely feel the need to try and order online to receive
the order, it isn't the most accessible website.  I like calling up
the 2 local Pizza places and just ordering what I want via phone.

On 4/3/20, Tom Lange  wrote:
I refuse to use door dash. The first time I tried them I was successful 
and

the second time they declined a perfectly fine debit card that I’ve been
using for two years. Their support was of absolutely no help whatsoever. 
So

I figured if they don’t want my business screw them.


On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Shirley Baker 
wrote:

Well, as I said yesterday, I put my order in the cart and went to enter
my payment info and there was no edit fields that I could find so that's
why I couldn't complete the order. I even called to get help but no one
answered the phone. I am good at placing other food orders and grocery
store orders but it just didn't work with Little Caesars.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 3, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I agree completely!

Andy

- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before



IMHO, it's irrelevant whether you'd can call a pizza place or not. The
fact of the matter is that sighted people can use a web site or an app
to place an order and therefore the blind should be able to as well.
--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before
Yeah I'd rather call my pizza company and order what I want and then
either get
it picked up or delivered.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of John Panarese
Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before
Do people actually make calls any more to order food? I prefer to 
call

and
make orders verbally than use apps if possible. Speaking to a human
and
specifying items when it comes to multiple orders has been much more
successful to me. Doordash and Grub Hub are fine, but I just had an
issue with
the order being incomplete with a local restaurant chain via Grub 
Hub.

Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
On Apr 3, 2020, at 4:50 PM,  


wrote:

Or, you could just call a pizza restaurant! How quaint!
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf

Of

Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before
It appears that most pizza restaurant sites are inaccessible.  For 
me,

I have

found that the best way to order a pizza online is through apps like
Door Dash or
Uber Eats.

Andy
- Original Message -
From: "Shirley Baker" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 4:22 PM
Subject: Has Anyone Ordered From 

Re: Blood pressure monitors question?

[Arlene]

my blood pressure machine is from independent living aids  and it's really 
great.
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2020 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: Blood pressure monitors question?


Malcolm, this is not iOS, but I got my blood pressure monitor from 
Maxi-Aids; I believe Speak to me has them too. The one that goes just above 
your elbow is the kind to get, not the wrist one.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Malcolm Parfitt

Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blood pressure monitors question?

Hello friends.

I apologise if this topic has been discussed but I have a particular reason 
for asking advice.


If you will allow me to explain.

I was recently admitted into hospital where I was diagnosed with 
Pyelonephritis, and sepsis.  During my stay in hospital I was also found to 
have an atrial fibrillation.  They are not sure whether the heart issue was 
caused by the sepsis and I have to undergo further tests.


My Apple Watch can help me check my heart rate, but what options are there 
for a totally blind person to check blood pressure.


I would appreciate your recommendations and thank you in advance for them.

Thank you for reading my post too.

Malcolm Parfitt

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: unlocking a locked iPhone

[Arlene]

We do know what you mean, and if not now possibly in the future.
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone


Thanks. That makes sense.

One reason I wanted to know is if I ever decided to get another phone that I 
might also want to use. I know, probably that doesn't make sense to some 
people, but I know you get it, Wayne and Arlene.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 9:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked iPhone

Carolyn, the first thing, take your phone out of the case.
2. locate a very tiny whole on the side of the phone. I don't know where it 
would be on the i11, however for an example, the iphone se sim card would be 
on the right edge as you're facing the phone. You'll need a paper clip to 
pop the tray with the sim card out. The paper clip, That's my preferred tool 
since it works well.note: the tray and the sim card both, are very tiny, so 
if you do happen to pop your sim card out I recomend doing it over 
something, so it won't get lost. if you have any questions just ask and good 
luck.


Wayne

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone


Where is it that you insert the SIM card. I wish I'd have thought to ask Ray
at Wal-Mart, when I got my phone. I guess you have to take the case off the
phone to get to it?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone

I agree I had this  SE on Cricket which is an off shoot of at  it about 3
to 5 minutes for it to recognize the Verizon sim and  work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer
Jaber
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 3:47 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone



Hello,



Sometimes, it takes a bit of time for the IMEI to show up as unlocked after
it has been locked. It is worth sticking a sim in and seeing what happens if
you have followed the process and are unlocked.



=Thanks.



On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:56 PM kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Dennis, Was your phone an at?  After getting the note from at saying
they approved unlock of my phone and gave instructions as to how to proceed
with another carrier, Verizon tells me the phone is still locked.  They also
tell me that if they were to put a new sim card in my "new" SE, that it
could cause me to have no service at all.  I couldn't take the risk of
loosing cell service altogether.  But, can someone help me understand their
logic?  I am truly lost.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

I am using an SE on Verizon and I didn't purchase it from Verizon

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
kitty hevener
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Christopher thanks for sharing.  I wonder what the author's credentials are
for writing the article.  After the second attempt, at unlocked my phone.
While the article makes me think I may be in luck that my phone will work on
Verizon, apparently the only way to know for sure is yet one more trip to
the store.  I am sooo hoping for a happy ending smile!!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; Richard
Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone

I'm not speaking from personal experience, but this is true for the SE,
except for SE's from Sprint. You also need to pay attention to the bands
supported by your phone. Here's everything you ever wanted to know about
moving your SE from carrier to carrier
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Will-my-iPhone-SE-work-on-another-carrier




On 2/27/20 8:32 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Well, I did not know this about newer phones, but I am doubtful the SE is
in that category.
If you call Verizon and ask them if you get

Re: unlocking a locked iPhone

[Arlene]

Carolyn, the first thing, take your phone out of the case.
2. locate a very tiny whole on the side of the phone. I don't know where it 
would be on the i11, however for an example, the iphone se sim card would be 
on the right edge as you're facing the phone. You'll need a paper clip to 
pop the tray with the sim card out. The paper clip, That's my preferred tool 
since it works well.note: the tray and the sim card both, are very tiny, so 
if you do happen to pop your sim card out I recomend doing it over 
something, so it won't get lost. if you have any questions just ask and good 
luck.


Wayne

- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone


Where is it that you insert the SIM card. I wish I'd have thought to ask Ray 
at Wal-Mart, when I got my phone. I guess you have to take the case off the 
phone to get to it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long

Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone

I agree I had this  SE on Cricket which is an off shoot of at  it about 3 
to 5 minutes for it to recognize the Verizon sim and  work.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber

Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 3:47 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone



Hello,



Sometimes, it takes a bit of time for the IMEI to show up as unlocked after 
it has been locked. It is worth sticking a sim in and seeing what happens if 
you have followed the process and are unlocked.




=Thanks.



On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:56 PM kitty hevener  > wrote:


Dennis, Was your phone an at?  After getting the note from at saying 
they approved unlock of my phone and gave instructions as to how to proceed 
with another carrier, Verizon tells me the phone is still locked.  They also 
tell me that if they were to put a new sim card in my "new" SE, that it 
could cause me to have no service at all.  I couldn't take the risk of 
loosing cell service altogether.  But, can someone help me understand their 
logic?  I am truly lost.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On 
Behalf Of Dennis Long

Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

I am using an SE on Verizon and I didn't purchase it from Verizon

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener

Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Christopher thanks for sharing.  I wonder what the author's credentials are 
for writing the article.  After the second attempt, at unlocked my phone. 
While the article makes me think I may be in luck that my phone will work on 
Verizon, apparently the only way to know for sure is yet one more trip to 
the store.  I am sooo hoping for a happy ending smile!!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  ; Richard 
Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >

Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone

I'm not speaking from personal experience, but this is true for the SE, 
except for SE's from Sprint. You also need to pay attention to the bands 
supported by your phone. Here's everything you ever wanted to know about 
moving your SE from carrier to carrier 
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Will-my-iPhone-SE-work-on-another-carrier





On 2/27/20 8:32 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, I did not know this about newer phones, but I am doubtful the SE is 
in that category.
If you call Verizon and ask them if you get AT to unlock the phone; can 
you use it on their network, then you'll know for sure.




Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of

kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Is that true for the Iphone SE?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On

Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, 

Re: unlocking a locked Iphone

[Arlene]

Actually we've unlocked all 4 of our  se phones, 2 of the phones were 
unlocked from t-mobile, the third phone was unlocked from consumer cellular 
and the 4th phone was unlocked from straight talk so when we ended service 
with straight talk we could use it on consumer cellular. Depending on the 
carrier you might have to wait a certain amount of time before you can 
unlock the phone. for example with some carriers, even if you get the phone 
paid off, for example as for one carrier with straight talk you have to wait 
a year. So it's just a matter of asking your carrier.


- Original Message - 
From: "kitty hevener" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 8:35 AM
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone


Yes, sadly, I learned the importance of the imei after the fact.  It does 
offer me some protection in the future, though.  The seller listed it on the 
blind mice mart swap list.  Since seller has not responded, will open a 
dispute through paypal.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

No kidding. If you can, return the phone and get your money back.
I've bought iPhones on buy/sell mailing lists and eBay and have always had 
good luck. I always make sure that the description states that it's unlocked 
or have the seller provide me with the IMEI so I can check 
compatibility/status on my carrier. If eBay, I can usually tell by the 
feedback and what else the seller has posted if it's an individual seller or 
it's someone who flips phones. A professional flipper is not going to burn 
themselves over one sale, so I'm less concerned about that.
Small consolation now I know, but just something to keep in mind for the 
future.



Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Carriers to my knowledge are legally obligated to unlock a phone if it is no 
longer under contract and you should be able to find out which carrier has 
to do it.
Here in Canada carriers can no longer sell phones locked to them, all phones 
have to be unlocked I think since December 1, 2018. This means of course you 
still find locked phones which people sell and which were locked before, but 
since then all new phones have to be unlocked.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

And, if Verizon can't make it work, I would have doubts that anyone could. 
At our Verizon store, the guys down there seem to live to do stuff with 
phones to get them going just right.


When I had Verizon, they had a division of Customer Service for special 
problems, and the guy there helped me and Jim with a phone some years back.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

The seller obviously lied, I would never buy a used iPhone online and unseen 
unless maybe on a list like this where I sort of know the person who is 
selling it has been around and even then I have heard stories where people 
sell stuff which is not at all as advertised or disappear with the money. 
Caveat emptor is very much in order here.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone

I'd call Apple and see if they can tell from the the serial number, which 
they can get if they do a screen share with you.
Otherwise you will have to find out what the carrier was, and possibly get 
the seller to give their permission to have it unlocked.

Sadly, it could be that the seller simply lied.
But, call Apple Accessibility: 877-204-3930 and see what they can sort out.

Richard
"There's a nap for that." -- an anonymous cat

Sent from my iPhone SE


On Feb 25, 2020, at 9:11 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:

I purchased an Iphone that was advertised as unlocked.  Seller
assured me it would work with my carrier, Verizon.  Sadly, Verizon
informed me that the phone was locked and they said it could only be
unlocked by carrier was using.
Does anyone know of any workaround for getting it unlocked?  Thanks.

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Re: unlocking a locked Iphone

[Arlene]

The iPhone we unlocked is a se phone,.
- Original Message - 
From: "kitty hevener" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone


Is that true for the Iphone SE?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Simon A Fogarty 
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone

since the US carriers have moved to 4G LTE and are now moving to 5G, there 
is no need to choose between GSM and CDMA.

https://www.androidauthority.com/gsm-vs-cdma-689328/


On 2/27/20 2:54 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

 From memory the last few years iPhone releasesare both CDMA and gsm

Hence Verizon can use a or could use iPhones without sim cards

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener

Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2020 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Richard, per your suggestion, I contacted apple accessibility and have 
learned that the phone is at  The apple person led me to believe I 
could use a Gsm onCDMA.  Hmm, wonder if an apple store could do whatever 
needs to be done to make it work on cdma, if at unlocks it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone

I'm not Mark, but GSM phones cannot be used with Verizon or Sprint who use 
CDMA.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." -- an anonymous cat

Sent from my iPhone SE

On Feb 26, 2020, at 8:47 PM, kitty hevener  
wrote:


Mark, hope I am not making an issue more complicated that it needs to 
be.  If I understand right, at uses gsm technology.  So, if u get your 
at phone unlocked, will you then only be able to use it with other 
carriers that use gsm?  You would not be able to use that unlocked at 
phone with gsm technology on Verizon or another carrier who used CDEMA, 
right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Hello Carolyn,

You will need to submit an unlock request to A T & T at the end of your 
contract as they will not automatically unlock the device.


Speaking from personal experience, A T & T is absolutely wonderful when 
it comes to unlocking devices.  I have unlocked many, many A T & T phones 
over the years and, in most cases, the unlock code is provided within 10 
to 30 minutes of submitting the unlock request.


When you are ready to unlock you’re a T & T device, you may submit the 
unlock request using the form located at the following URL:


https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/#/.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Question about locked phones. I bought a phone and am on a 30-month AT 
contract. I know, a lot of people don't like those contracts, but this 
seemed like a good deal. I can be patient, know it won't last forever. So 
my question is, will my phone be locked with AT in 31 months, when I 
might want to return to Consumer Cellular? Or I eventually might want to 
sell my phone?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

No kidding. If you can, return the phone and get your money back.
I've bought iPhones on buy/sell mailing lists and eBay and have always 
had good luck. I always make sure that the description states that it's 
unlocked or have the seller provide me with the IMEI so I can check 
compatibility/status on my carrier. If eBay, I can usually tell by the 
feedback and what else the seller has posted if it's an individual seller 
or it's someone who flips phones. A professional flipper is not going to 
burn themselves over one sale, so I'm less concerned about that.
Small consolation now I know, but just something to keep in mind for the 
future.



Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Carriers to my knowledge are legally obligated to unlock a phone if it is 
no longer under contract and you should be able to find out which carrier 
has to do it.
Here in Canada carriers can no longer sell phones locked to them, all 
phones have to be unlocked I think since December 1, 2018. This means of 
course you still find locked phones which