Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Daniel L. Gervais]

I went originally from the 4S to the 6 Plus, and although it does take some 
getting use to the larger phone, I think the extra battery life is worth it.  
It just depends on your budget and what you will use the phone for.  I am also 
due for an upgrade and am trying to figure out the details with my plan and 
costs for upgrading, but if I do go ahead and buy it, I am sticking with the 
Plus model, it kind of feels odd to go back to the smaller screen.  Plus with 
the dual camera on the Plus only, I wonder if that might improve OCR scanning.


From:   Sadam Ahmed 
To: 
Date:   2016/09/08 6:27 PM
Subject:iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

Hi all,

Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.

Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth 
it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?

The improved battery life is the only up side I think.

Your thoughts and comments welcome.

Yours  sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed

Vocational Business education student

Certificate IV in International Trade

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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Regina Alvarado]

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on it, but 
for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new Apple? I have been 
told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe too that because Apple has 
removed the Jack, if well received by the general public, it will also 
disappear from the Android and Windows phones. I think fortunately or 
unfortunately we are a subset given drops of accessibility and as we are now 
using mainstream devices we are at the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, 
just a fact, and we want parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of 
like the ERA. Put women in combat when some said they should never be. Change 
is hard, and I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing 
deficit(, but there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not 
worth waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or 
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are much, much 
more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be addressing in my 
opinion.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but it's 
definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let Apple know 
how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't put the headphone 
jack back in a future device, although like I said, I would doubt it.

I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack is 
because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted peers 
because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the lock screen, 
but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing their new phone had a 
headphone jack on it that they've taken for granted on all of their electronics 
for years.

It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers, shouldn't 
criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you just talking 
about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about blind consumers or all 
consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to get an iPhone 7, I think I'm 
allowed to criticize a decision Apple made. I for one don't think Apple is 
perfect, and I'm not just going to assume that they'll never make a mistake and 
they always know what's best for me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just 
those who think we should just be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as 
consumers and blind consumers should be happy with.

> On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
> Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move on.  
> Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the world wasn't 
> going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening isn't a big deal for 
> me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all that much for calling anyway.  
> If I need power sooner, I'll buy the Belcan thingie.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terje Strømberg
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com Strømberg" 
> Cc: Terje Strømberg 
> Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
> 
> It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the sales 
> figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for sighted people.
> 
> Take care
> 
> 
>> 8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore :
>> 
>> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go back to 
>> the old plug.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Cristóbal
>> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>> 
>> You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out by a 
>> mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
>> Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for
>> something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see what kind 
>> of battery pack designs these same companies are going to come up with for 
>> those of us who may want  or need that extra backup. There goes another 
>> $40.00 or $80.00 or  whatever on top of everything else. That and what type 
>> of solution they’re going to come up with  for all the credit  card swipers 
>> that are so ubiquitous Appel was actually getting credit yesterday for only 
>> selling the replacement dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows they’re 
>> going to get their pound of flesh one  way or another.
>> Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM

Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Daniel L. Gervais]

I agree, I would doubt very much that Apple would go back on their
change, there's enough Apple fanatics out there that just buy anything
that Apple makes, so even if some of us boycott the 7, it will never be
enough to affect the $$$ that they are raking in with the iPhone sales. 
We'll just have to either live with it or just change phones and jump to
Android.




From:   Mary Otten 
To: 
Date:   2016/09/08 5:36 PM
Subject:Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us
need

And of pigs have wings they would fly. It's not going to happen.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Donald Moore 
wrote:
> 
> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go
back to the old plug.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>  
> You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out
by a mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
> Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for
something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see
what kind of battery pack designs these same companies are going to come
up with for those of us who may want  or need that extra backup. There
goes another $40.00 or $80.00 or  whatever on top of everything else.
That and what type of solution they’re going to come up with  for all
the credit  card swipers that are so ubiquitous
> Appel was actually getting credit yesterday for only selling the
replacement dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows they’re going to
get their pound of flesh one  way or another.
> Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>  
> Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the
box, but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about
the lack of ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the
solution.
>
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/

> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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Re: KNFB Reader with PDF FILE

[Chris Chaffin]

Depends on what method you use to get it on your phone.
If by email attachment, just do a double tap and hold on the attachment and 
wait for the pop up menu.  In that menu are normally several copy to choices, 
and you would want to choose copy to KNFB Reader.
If by Dropbox, go to and double tap on the PDF file, then on the next screen of 
the file, double tap the More Actions Menu.  A menu will appear, double tap 
export, then swipe to Open in, and double tap.
Within that open in pop up menu, you should find copy to KNFB Reader.

Hope all of this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  thought that could be done.  I don't see a  way to open a file.  How 
> is that done?
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader with PDF FILE
> 
> 
> Yes, you can open PDf files in KNFB Reader by using Dropbox or by use of an 
> email attachment.
> After you have opened it in KNFB Reader, you can even save the scanned 
> results if you like.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't know if this can be done.  I have a PDF FILE WHICH APPARENTLY IS A 
>> SCANNED DOCUMENT.  Is there a way I can get this into a readible format 
>> using KNFB Reader?  Kind of a strange question for those who use KNFB 
>> Reader.  I usually only take pictures of printed material.  Never knew if 
>> this particular thing would work.
>> 
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Anthony Vece]

Come on Dan!


Sent from my Verizon iPhone SE

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel L. Gervais 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree, I would doubt very much that Apple would go back on their
> change, there's enough Apple fanatics out there that just buy anything
> that Apple makes, so even if some of us boycott the 7, it will never be
> enough to affect the $$$ that they are raking in with the iPhone sales. 
> We'll just have to either live with it or just change phones and jump to
> Android.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:Mary Otten 
> To:
> Date:2016/09/08 5:36 PM
> Subject:Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us
> need
> 
> And of pigs have wings they would fly. It's not going to happen.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Donald Moore 
> wrote:
>> 
>> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go
> back to the old plug.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
>> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>> 
>> You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out
> by a mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
>> Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for
> something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see
> what kind of battery pack designs these same companies are going to come
> up with for those of us who may want  or need that extra backup. There
> goes another $40.00 or $80.00 or  whatever on top of everything else.
> That and what type of solution they’re going to come up with  for all
> the credit  card swipers that are so ubiquitous
>> Appel was actually getting credit yesterday for only selling the
> replacement dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows they’re going to
> get their pound of flesh one  way or another.
>> Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>> 
>> Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the
> box, but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about
> the lack of ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the
> solution.
>> 
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/
> 
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
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Re: KNFB reader

[Regina Alvarado]

There was an update to the app said to be usable with IOS-10. 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:59 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

Has anyone heard anything concerning this app and iOS10?
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Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Ari. I didn't know that.
I will check it out. 

Jenifer Barr
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> On Sep 9, 2016, at 6:12 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Jenifer, there is a podcast produced by Apple called Apple Keynotes. If you 
> want, you can go back and listen to the 2016 WWDC presentation using this 
> podcast.
> 
> 
> Thanks, Ari
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 1:45 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Jonathan.
>> Am I to assume correctly that IOS 10 comes out Tuesday?  No, I didn't
>> listen to the keynote this past week, I wasn't able to and as the
>> iPhone 7 is not on my radar I didn't feel the need.  I'm rather bummed
>> I missed the one in June where IOS 10 was featured, but alas.
>> This is by far, handsdown, the most well-written series of books
>> written for the blind for IOS.  If anyone has never purchased any of
>> the IOS without the I series yet, I would strongly recommend you do
>> so.  Justsayin.  Cutos to Jonathan for providing this series.
>> Jen
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/8/16, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> Hi Jenifer, I didn't post it here, but I did post it to the Mosen Consulting
>>> Twitter feed, @MosenConsulting, and to our own announcements list. The URL
>>> is:
>>> http://www.mosen.org/ios10 
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot for your interest.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
 On 9/09/2016, at 1:27 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 Did I miss an email with the info to preorder ios 10 without the I... If
 there will be one?
 Thanks.
 
 
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RE: KNFB Reader with PDF FILE

[Tom Rash]

Thanks.  thought that could be done.  I don't see a way to open a file.  How
is that done?

  _  

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Yes, you can open PDf files in KNFB Reader by using Dropbox or by use of an
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After you have opened it in KNFB Reader, you can even save the scanned
results if you like.

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Don't know if this can be done.  I have a PDF FILE WHICH APPARENTLY IS A
SCANNED DOCUMENT.  Is there a way I can get this into a readible format
using KNFB Reader?  Kind of a strange question for those who use KNFB
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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Sadam Ahmed]

I'll sell the old device.
On 9/09/2016 8:00 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote:

What will you do with your existing device? Can you exchange the old
device with new one in your country?

On 9/9/16, Pete Nalda  wrote:

The camera in the 7+ has an extra lens for telephoto.

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Hi all,

Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.

Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth it
to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?

The improved battery life is the only up side I think.

Your thoughts and comments welcome.

Yours  sincerely,

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Re: KNFB Reader with PDF FILE

[Chris Chaffin]

Yes, you can open PDf files in KNFB Reader by using Dropbox or by use of an 
email attachment.
After you have opened it in KNFB Reader, you can even save the scanned results 
if you like.

Chris


> On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Don't know if this can be done.  I have a PDF FILE WHICH APPARENTLY IS A 
> SCANNED DOCUMENT.  Is there a way I can get this into a readible format using 
> KNFB Reader?  Kind of a strange question for those who use KNFB Reader.  I 
> usually only take pictures of printed material.  Never knew if this 
> particular thing would work.
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Re: listening and charging and thoughts on the presentation

[Regina Alvarado]

Christopher, can I ask a very stupid question? What is the difference between 
the run-of-the-mill Android and the Edge? Obviously it has to do with the edges 
of the phone, but what and what does it do? Thanks.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I've read on different Android lists both that the edges of the S7 Edge are 
accessible and that they're not. The difference seems to be that people who 
state they're accessible tend to actually have an S7 Edge, whereas those who 
say they aren't accessible don't and are just repeating what they've heard. 
Therefore, I tend to think the edges are accessible, but I don't have an S7 
Edge myself. Either way, if an iPhone were to have edges then I'm sure Apple 
would make them accessible with VoiceOver. That doesn't mean that they'll turn 
out to be particularly useful for a blind person, or a sighted person either.

> On 08/09/16 17:11, Mary Otten wrote:
> Well that's interesting, since I have read on the android list that the
> edge part is absolutely not accessible. I don't own one, so I'm only
> basing my statement on what I heard from others who supposedly do.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Robin  > wrote:
> 
>> AsFarAs I Know
>> TheEdges of Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge are IndeedAccessible
>> AtLeast With its Samsung TTS
>> ThatBeing VoiceAssistant
>> JustSayin'
>> At 08:38 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
>>> Hi Sieghard,
>>> I think the extra battery life, especially in the 6S versus the
>>> seven, it's kind of compelling. That might be enough to let me not
>>> use a battery case, which I find I have to do and have had to do ever
>>> since my first iPhone, a for S. The improved sound will be nice, but
>>> it wouldn't be compelling for me in and of itself. The loss of the
>>> headphone jack doesn't make a difference to me personally. So I'm
>>> going to go for an upgrade from a 6S to a seven. I don't like the
>>> plus. It's too big. I'm actually not so sure I'm looking forward to a
>>> new form factor. They are talking about the curved thing like Samsung
>>> has with their edge. As I understand it, that extra screen, the edge,
>>> isn't accessible. Now maybe Apple will find a way to make that
>>> happen. Still, I just don't see the point. Wireless charging, still
>>> don't care. Better screen? Again, don't care. So all the new stuff
>>> they're talking about for next year I guess I just don't find all
>>> that appealing. Different strokes.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Reggie,
 
 Which phone do you currently have? If it is a 6/6 Plus or earlier
 the upgrade is probably OK, if you have a 6S or 6S Plus there is
 little reason to do so unless maybe you have a hearing impairment
 where the extra volume they claim may make a difference. Of course
 if you use a hearing aid the absence of the 3.5mm headphone jack may
 have a negative impact. I definitely don’t see a reason to upgrade
 my 6S Plus until next year especially knowing that next year’s
 iPhone is very likely to be a much bigger deal.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Regina Alvarado
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:45 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* listening and charging and thoughts on the presentation
 
 Apple just took care of not being able to listen with wired
 headphones and charging. For 49 dollars there is an Apple dock that
 allows listening and charging. Saw it in Mac Daily News. I do not
 know how to give a link, sorry.
 
 Now, my simple thoughts about the roll out the 7 and 7 plus. Lots
 and lots of visual improvements, but nothing said about Siri or
 accessibility. Was disappointed, but just for the stereo speakers
 and more volume I will take my upgrade.
 
 reggie & Lex
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Christopher Chaltain]

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but 
it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let 
Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't 
put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I 
would doubt it.


I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack 
is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted 
peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the 
lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing 
their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for 
granted on all of their electronics for years.


It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers, 
shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you 
just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about 
blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to 
get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made. 
I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume 
that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best for 
me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just 
be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind 
consumers should be happy with.


On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move on.  
Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the world wasn't 
going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening isn't a big deal for me 
but I'm retired and don't use my phone all that much for calling anyway.  If I 
need power sooner, I'll buy the Belcan thingie.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terje Strømberg
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com Strømberg" 
Cc: Terje Strømberg 
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the sales 
figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for sighted people.

Take care



8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore :

You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go back to the 
old plug.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out by a 
mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for
something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see what kind of 
battery pack designs these same companies are going to come up with for those 
of us who may want  or need that extra backup. There goes another $40.00 or 
$80.00 or  whatever on top of everything else. That and what type of solution 
they’re going to come up with  for all the credit  card swipers that are so 
ubiquitous Appel was actually getting credit yesterday for only selling the 
replacement dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows they’re going to get 
their pound of flesh one  way or another.
Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.


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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the box, but 
for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about the lack of 
ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the solution.
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iph
one-7/
Jonathan Mosen
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RE: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA Networks

[Kramlinger, Keith G.]

Hi,

I’m curious how this works.

I have an iPhone 6 with Verizon that comes off contract in October. If I buy an 
unlocked phone from Apple when available, can I just transfer my iPhone 6 sim 
card into the new phone, and that’s it. Or, would Verizon need to get involved 
somehow with the new phone activation, and would that be problematic?

Also, I seem to recall that phones of that generation were already unlocked. Is 
that the case, or will I need to get Verizon to unlock the iPhone 6?

Many thanks. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support 
CDMA Networks

You can just wait a few weeks until they release an unlocked version. I think 
last year, unlocked phones started popping  up around  the beginning of 
November. This is  what I plan on doing as I have nearly $200.00 in redeemable 
BestBuy points that I‘m going to use to offset the phone’s cost.
If you  want to  go for last year’s model, the Apple store is selling the 6S, 
6S Plus and SE unlocked. I think the SE 64GB dropped to $450.00 for example.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support 
CDMA Networks

OK, let's say you go through the Apple store online and buy an unlocked phone. 
But apparently, you have to declare a carrier. So if you declare T-Mobile or 
AT, then pay for your phone, will you be getting one with one of those modems 
that won't work on the CDMA? I guess the safe thing would be to declare Verizon 
or Sprint.
Mary
?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Miller Family 
> wrote:
I always buy my phone outright and unlocked, so this will make no difference to 
me.  But I wonder about those who try to switch simm cards for traveling?  This 
could be a deal breaker for them.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

I have to admit, this article did make me wonder if there were any other 
substantive differences between these modems. I had no clue, before seeing this 
article, that only the QUALCOMM modems supported all of the different network 
types. I have no interest in going back to Verizon, so for me personally, it 
probably doesn't matter. On the other hand, what else is hidden?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:
Wow. Thanks very much for this, Mary.

From: 
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 On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:30 PM
To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com;macvisionar...@googlegroups.com;mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA 
Networks

iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA Networks
MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Joe Rossignol

Choosing which iPhone model to purchase this year should be more carefully 
considered, as both AT and T-Mobile models of the iPhone 
7 and iPhone 7 Plus do not support 
CDMA networks such as Verizon and Sprint in the United States. Apple confirmed 
the matter in fine print in the iPhone 7 tech 
specs and on its 
LTE page.


A customer that purchases an iPhone 7 from Apple's website and selects AT as 
their carrier, for example, would be unable to later use the smartphone on 
Verizon, Sprint, or any other CDMA network, even if the device is unlocked. By 
comparison, all iPhone 6s and 
iPhone 6s Plus models worked on both GSM and CDMA networks.

A customer that purchases an iPhone 7 from Apple's website and selects Verizon 
as their carrier, on the other hand, would also be able to use the smartphone 
on AT, T-Mobile, Sprint, or any other GSM or CDMA network.

It was previously reported that Apple would switch to Intel 
modems for 
select iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus models, including AT 
models,
 and Intel modems do not support the CDMA standard in the United States. 

Re: KNFB Reader with PDF FILE

[Nancy Badger]

If you open the file on your phone, there is a button in the upper left corner 
that vo says “open in.” If you double tap it, then you have a list of apps that 
you can open the PDF with. KNFB reader should be one of those apps.
Nancy
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
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> KNFB Reader?  Kind of a strange question for those who use KNFB Reader.  I 
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> 
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backing up the phone

[Marie Lyons]

This is a cautionary tale with a happy ending. On Thursday night I couldn’t get 
Siri and voiceover to work. The last time that happened I plugged it into my 
computer and voila. I tried it again but couldn’t do anything with the phone. 
Well I thought that since I couldn’t do anything else I may as well back up the 
phone. I called disability support. We had to do a restore to the phone. Well I 
restored to the backup I made the night before and was all up to date. The 
moral of the story is backup your phone.

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Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

[christopher hallsworth]

Jen and all

Not Jonathan, but yes, iOS 10 along with watchOS 3 and maybe tvOS 10 will be 
available to the public Tuesday 13 September. I didn’t watch the keynote 
either, but did get the announcement via iDownloadblog thanks to their free, 
fully accessible IDB app.


> On 9 Sep 2016, at 09:45, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Jonathan.
> Am I to assume correctly that IOS 10 comes out Tuesday?  No, I didn't
> listen to the keynote this past week, I wasn't able to and as the
> iPhone 7 is not on my radar I didn't feel the need.  I'm rather bummed
> I missed the one in June where IOS 10 was featured, but alas.
> This is by far, handsdown, the most well-written series of books
> written for the blind for IOS.  If anyone has never purchased any of
> the IOS without the I series yet, I would strongly recommend you do
> so.  Justsayin.  Cutos to Jonathan for providing this series.
> Jen
> 
> 
> On 9/8/16, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> Hi Jenifer, I didn't post it here, but I did post it to the Mosen Consulting
>> Twitter feed, @MosenConsulting, and to our own announcements list. The URL
>> is:
>> http://www.mosen.org/ios10 
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for your interest.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>>> On 9/09/2016, at 1:27 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Did I miss an email with the info to preorder ios 10 without the I... If
>>> there will be one?
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenifer Barr
>>> Jenifer571 on dice world
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Cathy Inglis]

The windows phones and android phones will follow suit. Eventually there will 
be no earphone jacks in any of the phones. I'm glad this company put out a 
product to solve the problems that people are worrying about. I will look into 
this product when I get a phone. I am keeping my 6S full right now, I'm not 
eligible for an upgrade.

Cathy and Tiny.

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on it, but 
> for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new Apple? I have been 
> told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe too that because Apple has 
> removed the Jack, if well received by the general public, it will also 
> disappear from the Android and Windows phones. I think fortunately or 
> unfortunately we are a subset given drops of accessibility and as we are now 
> using mainstream devices we are at the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, 
> just a fact, and we want parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of 
> like the ERA. Put women in combat when some said they should never be. Change 
> is hard, and I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing 
> deficit(, but there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not 
> worth waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or 
> yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are much, 
> much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be addressing 
> in my opinion.
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but it's 
> definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let Apple 
> know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't put the 
> headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I would doubt 
> it.
> 
> I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack is 
> because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted peers 
> because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the lock 
> screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing their new 
> phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for granted on all of 
> their electronics for years.
> 
> It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers, 
> shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you just 
> talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about blind 
> consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to get an 
> iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made. I for one 
> don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume that they'll 
> never make a mistake and they always know what's best for me. This isn't a 
> knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just be thankful for 
> whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind consumers should be happy 
> with.
> 
>> On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
>> Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move on.  
>> Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the world wasn't 
>> going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening isn't a big deal for 
>> me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all that much for calling anyway.  
>> If I need power sooner, I'll buy the Belcan thingie.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terje Strømberg
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com Strømberg" 
>> Cc: Terje Strømberg 
>> Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>> 
>> It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the 
>> sales figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for sighted 
>> people.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 
>>> 8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore :
>>> 
>>> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go back to 
>>> the old plug.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>>> 
>>> You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out by a 
>>> mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
>>> Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for
>>> something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see what 
>>> kind of battery pack designs these same companies are going to come up with 
>>> for those of us who may want  or need that extra backup. There goes another 
>>> $40.00 or $80.00 

Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Better battery time and better cammera it is, but we heard this.
There's also some kind of split screen when using the phone in
  landscape view similar to iPad.
Besides this I'm not sure will the Seven have something more. I'm
  using 6S Plus and talking from its perspective. If you have some
  vision left Plus model is a must have but if you're completely
  sightless than it is up to you do you need these extras or not.





  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

9.9.2016. u 0:27, Sadam Ahmed je
  napisao/la:

Hi all,
  
  
  Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.
  
  
  Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it
  worth it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?
  
  
  The improved battery life is the only up side I think.
  
  
  Your thoughts and comments welcome.
  
  
  Yours  sincerely,
  
  
  Sadam Ahmed
  
  
  Vocational Business education student
  
  
  Certificate IV in International Trade
  
  


  




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Getting Rid of Unwanted Groups in Message

[Bill Gallik]

Several weeks ago I received a text message from a niece, that message was also 
sent to several other individuals in my CONTACTS but there were several 
addressees that I don’t know at all.  When I replied to this message it was 
routed to all addressees and now when I try to send a message to any one of the 
addressees I know that was in that first message it gets addressed to the 
entire group.

For example, my niece Kim was in the original list of addressees and when I 
tried to send her a message this morning it was sent to the entire list from 
that first message sent by my niece Kathy.

How in heck do I get rid of this annoying, unintended group messaging?


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Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

[Jonathan Mosen]

Thanks Jenifer, that's really kind of you and I appreciate it.
Yes, Tuesday's the day, at 10 AM Pacific.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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> On 9/09/2016, at 8:45 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Jonathan.
> Am I to assume correctly that IOS 10 comes out Tuesday?  No, I didn't
> listen to the keynote this past week, I wasn't able to and as the
> iPhone 7 is not on my radar I didn't feel the need.  I'm rather bummed
> I missed the one in June where IOS 10 was featured, but alas.
> This is by far, handsdown, the most well-written series of books
> written for the blind for IOS.  If anyone has never purchased any of
> the IOS without the I series yet, I would strongly recommend you do
> so.  Justsayin.  Cutos to Jonathan for providing this series.
> Jen
> 
> 
> On 9/8/16, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> Hi Jenifer, I didn't post it here, but I did post it to the Mosen Consulting
>> Twitter feed, @MosenConsulting, and to our own announcements list. The URL
>> is:
>> http://www.mosen.org/ios10 
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for your interest.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>>> On 9/09/2016, at 1:27 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Did I miss an email with the info to preorder ios 10 without the I... If
>>> there will be one?
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenifer Barr
>>> Jenifer571 on dice world
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KNFB Reader with PDF FILE

[Tom Rash]

Don't know if this can be done.  I have a PDF FILE WHICH APPARENTLY IS A
SCANNED DOCUMENT.  Is there a way I can get this into a readible format
using KNFB Reader?  Kind of a strange question for those who use KNFB
Reader.  I usually only take pictures of printed material.  Never knew if
this particular thing would work.


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Re: backing up the phone

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Marie,

I have have had this problem from time to time with the 6S. I have found that 
Siri gets me out of the problem. I askSiri  for voice-over to be put on, 
assuming that it is turned off, and Siri sometimes says that it is already on. 
I therefore say turn voice-over off. After doing this I can then ask for 
voice-over to be put back on once again and it then works!I think it is another 
of those voice-over bugs and I must report it. I am really waiting to see 
whether it happens to me with iOS 10.

I hope this helps!

Carol P

On 9 Sep 2016, at 19:20, Marie Lyons  wrote:

This is a cautionary tale with a happy ending. On Thursday night I couldn’t get 
Siri and voiceover to work. The last time that happened I plugged it into my 
computer and voila. I tried it again but couldn’t do anything with the phone. 
Well I thought that since I couldn’t do anything else I may as well back up the 
phone. I called disability support. We had to do a restore to the phone. Well I 
restored to the backup I made the night before and was all up to date. The 
moral of the story is backup your phone.

Marie Lyons

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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Thanks all for the feedback.

In the end I went for the iPhone 7 4.7-inch version 128GB in gold.

Really wanted jet black but it sold out like hot cakes!

Yours sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed

On 10/09/2016 6:07 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have seen a few articles stating that the plus has 3 GB of RAM 
versus two for the seven. They are basing that on geek bench scores, 
since nobody has actually torn one of these apart yet. That extra 
gigabyte of RAM might be a good thing.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Gordan Radić > wrote:



Hi!

Better battery time and better cammera it is, but we heard this.

There's also some kind of split screen when using the phone in 
landscape view similar to iPad.


Besides this I'm not sure will the Seven have something more. I'm 
using 6S Plus and talking from its perspective. If you have some 
vision left Plus model is a must have but if you're completely 
sightless than it is up to you do you need these extras or not.




S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić* 

 

  	 
 	 



9.9.2016. u 0:27, Sadam Ahmed je napisao/la:

Hi all,

Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.

Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it 
worth it to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?


The improved battery life is the only up side I think.

Your thoughts and comments welcome.

Yours  sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed

Vocational Business education student

Certificate IV in International Trade



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Re: Which VDR Voices Do You Like?

[Dani Pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
Thanks for your input re VDR reading voices.

How do I go about sampling the voices? I've looked at the user manual
but can't work out the process.

Thanks,
Dani


On 9/7/16, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sharon is rather too deep of a female voice for my taste. That being said, I
> altered Ashley from NeoSpeech's Pitch up a bit to 120 from The default of
> 100, so I could do the same thing for Sharon, too.
>
> I bought Tracy, but I really can't stand her. I thought maybe I could, but
> after reading with her for a little while, I found that she just bug me too
> much. She's got the same kinds of problems that most a cappella and are
> going to voices have for me, an affect that I can only describe as jerky.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 8:48 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>
>> I have a few favourites. Sometimes I like James, and sometimes I like
>> either Tracy or Sharon. But most of the time I keep finding myself going
>> back to Alex ever since Winston has allowed us to use him with VDR. Also,
>> as Richard said, we'll have more options in iOS 10 so stay tuned for
>> that.
>>
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:57 AM, Caitlyn Furness 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally, I like James, Emma, and Tracey.  Tracey is my ult fav,
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Cait
>>>
 On Sep 6, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 I like the James voice. I also like the Kendra voice. Of course, being
 an Ivona voice, Kendra and others from that company will at some point
 become unusable, since they are not going to be supported. But for now,
 they still work. Amy is another one from Ivona that many people like.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
>
> Hi, Everyone.
> I saw a thread about this maybe a month or two ago, but deleted it
> because I wasn't using VDR at the time. Which VDR voices do you like,
> especially for long stints of book reading?
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Christopher Chaltain]

What I don't get is why some people care so much about the fact that 
others regret losing the headphone jack that they're going to insult and 
put down people on this list. Why does anyone else care that I don't 
like losing the headphone jack? How is that bothering anyone else? 
Aren't we all allowed to have our opinions even if they don't agree with 
someone else on the list?


For me, I don't want to have to keep track of another little pigtail. I 
frequently switch headphones from device to device, and now before I can 
do that, I'll need to make sure I have my adapter with me. True, it's 
not a big deal, but just another thing to worry about. Sure, someday 
I'll have headphones that will work with my PC and my smart phone 
without needing an adapter, but I'm not there yet. Sure this isn't 
important to everyone else, but I don't see why caring about a feature 
more than someone else makes me pathetic.


What have I gained by losing the headphone jack? Is the iPhone 7 thinner 
than the iPhone 6? Is it more water proof? Couldn't I still use 
Lightning connected headphones with my iPhone 6, assuming I had any? Is 
it cheaper now because Apple doesn't need to include this extra hardware 
and incorporate it into it's design?


On 09/09/16 00:28, Bill Gallik wrote:

I heartily agree with Daniel, what's wrong with you people? What is it
about the fact that Apple is included in the adapter with the new iPhone
7 that you don't get? Or is this another play a part of somebody who
seems to be an opportunist to sell something that we don't need to buy?



- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.4)

On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Daniel Miller > wrote:


Good lord Jesus, you people bitching about the loss of the headphone
jack are utterly pathetic. Get over yourselves, and learn to adapt to
change. You better be thankful apples even including an adapter in the
box for this one year of the transitional period. Next year with the
even newer iPhone, that adapter will most likely not be in the box.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:58 PM, englishride...@gmail.com
 wrote:


Oh, thank God! This is briliant! Belkin is awesome!


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:


Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the
box, but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns
about the lack of ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's
the solution.
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Jewel]

In a post that I have deleted, someone said that with the removal of the 
headphone jack, the new 
iphones will be waterproof.
Surely, the usb slot would let water into the interior of the phone?

Jewel

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I totaly agree with you,

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

What I don't get is why some people care so much about the fact that
others regret losing the headphone jack that they're going to insult and
put down people on this list. Why does anyone else care that I don't
like losing the headphone jack? How is that bothering anyone else?
Aren't we all allowed to have our opinions even if they don't agree with
someone else on the list?

For me, I don't want to have to keep track of another little pigtail. I
frequently switch headphones from device to device, and now before I can
do that, I'll need to make sure I have my adapter with me. True, it's
not a big deal, but just another thing to worry about. Sure, someday
I'll have headphones that will work with my PC and my smart phone
without needing an adapter, but I'm not there yet. Sure this isn't
important to everyone else, but I don't see why caring about a feature
more than someone else makes me pathetic.

What have I gained by losing the headphone jack? Is the iPhone 7 thinner
than the iPhone 6? Is it more water proof? Couldn't I still use
Lightning connected headphones with my iPhone 6, assuming I had any? Is
it cheaper now because Apple doesn't need to include this extra hardware
and incorporate it into it's design?

On 09/09/16 00:28, Bill Gallik wrote:
> I heartily agree with Daniel, what's wrong with you people? What is it
> about the fact that Apple is included in the adapter with the new iPhone
> 7 that you don't get? Or is this another play a part of somebody who
> seems to be an opportunist to sell something that we don't need to buy?
>
>
> 
> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.4)
>
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Daniel Miller  > wrote:
>
>> Good lord Jesus, you people bitching about the loss of the headphone
>> jack are utterly pathetic. Get over yourselves, and learn to adapt to
>> change. You better be thankful apples even including an adapter in the
>> box for this one year of the transitional period. Next year with the
>> even newer iPhone, that adapter will most likely not be in the box.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:58 PM, englishride...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, thank God! This is briliant! Belkin is awesome!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the
 box, but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns
 about the lack of ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's
 the solution.
 http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org 

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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

That sounds like exactly what I want. Unfortunately it's not free and hasn't 
been updated since 2013.

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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Christopher Chaltain]

There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when 
it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones 
still have a headphone jack.


IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being 
well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure 
what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any 
improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones, 
you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure, 
you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for 
now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the 
headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.


I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that 
have been added and not those that have been removed.


On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are
much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be
addressing in my opinion.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but
it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let
Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't
put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I
would doubt it.

I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack
is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted
peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the
lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing
their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for
granted on all of their electronics for years.

It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers,
shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you
just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about
blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to
get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made.
I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume
that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best for
me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just
be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind
consumers should be happy with.

On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move
on.  Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the
world wasn't going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening
isn't a big deal for me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all
that much for calling anyway.  If I need power sooner, I'll buy the
Belcan thingie.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com 
Strømberg" >
Cc: Terje Strømberg >
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on
the sales figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for
sighted people.

Take care



8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore >:

You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go
back to the old plug.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the 

My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Dianne Phelps]

I still question why the size keeps enlarging? When I upgraded the last
time, I looked at the 6 and 6+, which, I felt was like carrying a tablet
around. That may well be important for sighted consumers, but I am tired of
trying of carrying these huge things around. I need something which fits in
a pocket without falling out or in a small purse. I need decent sound and
some ability to connect with my hearing aids. This all means I am still
interested in the SE. Having a nice camera on board would be nice for when I
want to hand my phone to someone to take a picture, though since my sister
and sister-in-law are the shutter bug historians for our family, it is not
totally necessary for me.

 

With the sizes as they now are, I may as well pack my Surface around.

 

I like a great deal of what Apple has done with this product and for their
attention to our needs with Voiceover and commend them for these products. I
need Siri to become more accurate, though, it has improved immensely from
its beginning and anticipate continued improvement. The camera concerns me
only in as much as I depend upon KNFB reader, and the best quality of camera
we can have may be important to its performance. I figure the SE may be
better than the camera on the 6.

 

Lastly, I think the reason the size of the 6 also bothers me is, because I
have small hands, and I find the larger size harder to hold at times,
especially when using the KNFB Reader. I find it difficult to both hold the
iPhone and double tap to take the picture.

 

Ok, I am off my cantankerous  soap box now. Just my thoughts since for me
earphone jack or not isn't the largest issue.

 

Relax and enjoy the weekend. As my great grandmother used to say, it will
all come out in the "worsh". She was Irish and wash came out sounding like
worsh.

 

Smiling,

 

Dianne and Hibiscus

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Re: Another Reason Why I Love Twitter: A Happy Follow-up to the CapitalOne Wallet Breaking VoiceOver Thread

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'll keep this short so as not to inadvertently commandeer your thread. But 
I just had to heartily agree with you and dovetail on your lauding of 
Twitter as a means to attempt to initiate and facilitate dialog with 
companies and the like regarding accessibility issues as I find myself doing 
the very same thing today in response to the difficulties experienced in 
terms of the iPhone preorder process with the AT site and iOS app.
Wish me luck. I haven't faired as well as you thus far but I'm nothing if 
not tenacious while still being polite but persistent. Here's to advocating 
for ourselves and by extension others (smile).

Robin


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Another Reason Why I Love Twitter: A Happy Follow-up to the 
CapitalOne Wallet Breaking VoiceOver Thread


Hello Everyone,

First, let me thank all of you who joined me in requesting that VoiceOver
accessibility be restored to the CapitalOne Wallet app for iOS.

Second, The CapitalOne twitter team has been in contact with me ever since I
contacted them.

Third, today, they informed me that the developers are aware of the problem
and that this problem will be addressed in a future release.

In the meantime, they discovered a workaround gesture which allows VoiceOver
users to easily switch between credit card accounts.

To be honest, I explored using this gesture before raising the alarm,
however, it would appear that the gesture, at present, only works when done
while focus is first placed on any line item of the currently displayed
credit card.

Simply stated, in order to switch between multiple credit card, in the
current version of the CapitalOne Wallet App, for iOS, use a three-finger
swipe from left to right or right to left.  Before attempting this gesture,
however, first place focus on any line item; basically, any line item
located in the bottom half of the display, not including the line containing
the Tabs.

The very excellent customer service I've received via Twitter is just
another reason why Twitter has become my most absolute favorite way to deal
with any company's customer service team.

If you have not done so already, I strongly encourage you to explore and
begin to engage with others on Twitter.

Mark

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Re: listening and charging and thoughts on the presentation

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't think it's stupid at all. Remember, I don't have an S7 Edge 
myself, so I'm just going by what I've read, what I've seen on lists and 
what my friends and relatives who have an S7 Edge have told me.


The curved edges give you a bit more real estate in the same form 
factor. The S7 Edge for example has a 5.5 inch screen while the S7 has a 
5.1 inch screen and the dimensions are basically identical.


The Edge can be used a bit easier with one hand since you can place your 
favorite contacts and apps on the edges and reach them with the fingers 
of the hand holding the device. You can also have information sent to 
the screens on the edges, so for example, you could place your phone 
face down so you won't get interrupted with vibrations or ring tones but 
still see messages appear on the edges or have them change colors to 
indicate you have a call or a message from someone in particular. 
Samsung recently opened up the interfaces to the edges, so app 
developers can now think of all sorts of ways to take advantages of the 
edges.


Finally, it just makes the S7 Edge look and feel cool!

I'm not sure how much a blind person can take advantage of these 
features, but like I said, I'd expect an Apple implementation to be 
similar and accessible. Apple will also open this up to developers down 
the road, if Apple takes this path, and again you'll have innovative app 
developers coming up with all kinds of things.


On 09/09/16 09:08, Regina Alvarado wrote:


Christopher, can I ask a very stupid question? What is the difference
between the run-of-the-mill Android and the Edge? Obviously it has to do
with the edges of the phone, but what and what does it do? Thanks.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I've read on different Android lists both that the edges of the S7 Edge
are accessible and that they're not. The difference seems to be that
people who state they're accessible tend to actually have an S7 Edge,
whereas those who say they aren't accessible don't and are just
repeating what they've heard. Therefore, I tend to think the edges are
accessible, but I don't have an S7 Edge myself. Either way, if an iPhone
were to have edges then I'm sure Apple would make them accessible with
VoiceOver. That doesn't mean that they'll turn out to be particularly
useful for a blind person, or a sighted person either.

On 08/09/16 17:11, Mary Otten wrote:

Well that's interesting, since I have read on the android list that the
edge part is absolutely not accessible. I don't own one, so I'm only
basing my statement on what I heard from others who supposedly do.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Robin 
> wrote:


AsFarAs I Know
TheEdges of Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge are IndeedAccessible
AtLeast With its Samsung TTS
ThatBeing VoiceAssistant
JustSayin'
At 08:38 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:

Hi Sieghard,
I think the extra battery life, especially in the 6S versus the
seven, it's kind of compelling. That might be enough to let me not
use a battery case, which I find I have to do and have had to do ever
since my first iPhone, a for S. The improved sound will be nice, but
it wouldn't be compelling for me in and of itself. The loss of the
headphone jack doesn't make a difference to me personally. So I'm
going to go for an upgrade from a 6S to a seven. I don't like the
plus. It's too big. I'm actually not so sure I'm looking forward to a
new form factor. They are talking about the curved thing like Samsung
has with their edge. As I understand it, that extra screen, the edge,
isn't accessible. Now maybe Apple will find a way to make that
happen. Still, I just don't see the point. Wireless charging, still
don't care. Better screen? Again, don't care. So all the new stuff
they're talking about for next year I guess I just don't find all
that appealing. Different strokes.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:


Hi Reggie,

Which phone do you currently have? If it is a 6/6 Plus or earlier
the upgrade is probably OK, if you have a 6S or 6S Plus there is
little reason to do so unless maybe you have a hearing impairment
where the extra volume they claim may make a difference. Of course
if you use a hearing aid the absence of the 3.5mm headphone jack may
have a negative impact. I definitely don’t see a reason to upgrade
my 6S Plus until next year especially knowing that next year’s
iPhone is very likely to be a much bigger deal.


Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Regina Alvarado
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 

Another Reason Why I Love Twitter: A Happy Follow-up to the CapitalOne Wallet Breaking VoiceOver Thread

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

First, let me thank all of you who joined me in requesting that VoiceOver
accessibility be restored to the CapitalOne Wallet app for iOS.

Second, The CapitalOne twitter team has been in contact with me ever since I
contacted them.  

Third, today, they informed me that the developers are aware of the problem
and that this problem will be addressed in a future release.

In the meantime, they discovered a workaround gesture which allows VoiceOver
users to easily switch between credit card accounts.

To be honest, I explored using this gesture before raising the alarm,
however, it would appear that the gesture, at present, only works when done
while focus is first placed on any line item of the currently displayed
credit card.

Simply stated, in order to switch between multiple credit card, in the
current version of the CapitalOne Wallet App, for iOS, use a three-finger
swipe from left to right or right to left.  Before attempting this gesture,
however, first place focus on any line item; basically, any line item
located in the bottom half of the display, not including the line containing
the Tabs.

The very excellent customer service I've received via Twitter is just
another reason why Twitter has become my most absolute favorite way to deal
with any company's customer service team.

If you have not done so already, I strongly encourage you to explore and
begin to engage with others on Twitter.

Mark

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Has anyone heard anything concerning this app and iOS10?

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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Dave]

I totaly agree with you,

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

What I don't get is why some people care so much about the fact that
others regret losing the headphone jack that they're going to insult and
put down people on this list. Why does anyone else care that I don't
like losing the headphone jack? How is that bothering anyone else?
Aren't we all allowed to have our opinions even if they don't agree with
someone else on the list?

For me, I don't want to have to keep track of another little pigtail. I
frequently switch headphones from device to device, and now before I can
do that, I'll need to make sure I have my adapter with me. True, it's
not a big deal, but just another thing to worry about. Sure, someday
I'll have headphones that will work with my PC and my smart phone
without needing an adapter, but I'm not there yet. Sure this isn't
important to everyone else, but I don't see why caring about a feature
more than someone else makes me pathetic.

What have I gained by losing the headphone jack? Is the iPhone 7 thinner
than the iPhone 6? Is it more water proof? Couldn't I still use
Lightning connected headphones with my iPhone 6, assuming I had any? Is
it cheaper now because Apple doesn't need to include this extra hardware
and incorporate it into it's design?

On 09/09/16 00:28, Bill Gallik wrote:

I heartily agree with Daniel, what's wrong with you people? What is it
about the fact that Apple is included in the adapter with the new iPhone
7 that you don't get? Or is this another play a part of somebody who
seems to be an opportunist to sell something that we don't need to buy?



- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.4)

On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Daniel Miller > wrote:


Good lord Jesus, you people bitching about the loss of the headphone
jack are utterly pathetic. Get over yourselves, and learn to adapt to
change. You better be thankful apples even including an adapter in the
box for this one year of the transitional period. Next year with the
even newer iPhone, that adapter will most likely not be in the box.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:58 PM, englishride...@gmail.com
 wrote:


Oh, thank God! This is briliant! Belkin is awesome!


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:


Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the
box, but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns
about the lack of ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's
the solution.
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/
Jonathan Mosen
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Re: KNFB reader

[Christopher Chaltain]

Here's what Richard posted to the list on Wednesday with the subject 
"Knfb reader update for ios 10":


On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-5, Richard Turner wrote:

- Supports iOS10;
- Use all available voices on your device in normal and enhanced 
quality;

- Take a picture using the volume up/down buttons of your device;
- Minor bug fixes and stability issues solved.

On 09/09/16 02:59, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Has anyone heard anything concerning this app and iOS10?

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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Dave]

Hey! to a lot of people, like the deaf, and those of us, who wish to charge our 
handsets and listen with headphones, at the same time, this is a big issue! 
Also belkin, and other accessory companies, also think it is a big enough 
issue, to manufacture these products.

Get over your self!

People are aloud to have their say!

No need for that kind of atitude! it Stinks!

Dave.


From: Daniel Miller 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

Good lord Jesus, you people bitching about the loss of the headphone jack are 
utterly pathetic. Get over yourselves, and learn to adapt to change. You better 
be thankful apples even including an adapter in the box for this one year of 
the transitional period. Next year with the even newer iPhone, that adapter 
will most likely not be in the box.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:58 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:


  Oh, thank God! This is briliant! Belkin is awesome!


  Thanks,
  Ari

  On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:


Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the box, 
but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about the lack of 
ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the solution. 
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

I've tried to add to an existing file using the dropbox ap with no luck.
I didn't see anything about editing in the dropbox ap itself, so if this can be 
done that'd be a bonus.

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Are you inquiring about a file that already exists or creating a new file 
> altogether?
> 
> It's relatively straightforward to in an existing file, you simply go into 
> your dropbox folder and focus on the file in question; then hit the menu 
> button and select the appropriate action.
> 
> As for creating a new file, that will depend on the apps that you have and 
> whether or not they are linked to your dropbox. Many apps do include the 
> ability to link to the dropbox, but not all do.
> 
> 
> 
> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.4)
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>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:34 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
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>> Reposting this because I haven't seen it on the list yet. Apologies if 
>> people get this twice.
>> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> I'm wondering if anyone knows of an ap that will let me edit files that are 
>> stored in my dropbox without having to download them first?
>> What I want to do is open a document within an ap, edit it, and have the 
>> changes save directly to dropbox, the way you can with a computer.
>> Is this even possible? If so, which ap can I use?
>> I'd prefer a free ap if possible.
>> Thanks in advance for any recommendations.
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Dave]

well! if you don’t want to buy the adaptor, you should know the answer!

Trust me, if belkin, didn’t think, these products were wanted, they wouldn’t 
manufacture them.

Also, apple should have realised, that a lot of us, including sighted people, 
need the ability, to charge our phones whilst listening, and for those of us, 
who are out and about, through the day, and have to make many phone calls and 
use voiceover, need this option!

Dave.

From: Bill Gallik 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

I heartily agree with Daniel, what's wrong with you people? What is it about 
the fact that Apple is included in the adapter with the new iPhone 7 that you 
don't get? Or is this another play a part of somebody who seems to be an 
opportunist to sell something that we don't need to buy?





- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.4)

On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:


  Good lord Jesus, you people bitching about the loss of the headphone jack are 
utterly pathetic. Get over yourselves, and learn to adapt to change. You better 
be thankful apples even including an adapter in the box for this one year of 
the transitional period. Next year with the even newer iPhone, that adapter 
will most likely not be in the box.

  Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

  On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:58 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, thank God! This is briliant! Belkin is awesome!


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:


  Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the box, 
but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about the lack of 
ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the solution. 
  
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/

  Jonathan Mosen
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Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

[Jenifer Barr]

Thank you Jonathan.
Am I to assume correctly that IOS 10 comes out Tuesday?  No, I didn't
listen to the keynote this past week, I wasn't able to and as the
iPhone 7 is not on my radar I didn't feel the need.  I'm rather bummed
I missed the one in June where IOS 10 was featured, but alas.
This is by far, handsdown, the most well-written series of books
written for the blind for IOS.  If anyone has never purchased any of
the IOS without the I series yet, I would strongly recommend you do
so.  Justsayin.  Cutos to Jonathan for providing this series.
Jen


On 9/8/16, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> Hi Jenifer, I didn't post it here, but I did post it to the Mosen Consulting
> Twitter feed, @MosenConsulting, and to our own announcements list. The URL
> is:
> http://www.mosen.org/ios10 
>
> Thanks a lot for your interest.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>
>> On 9/09/2016, at 1:27 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>> Did I miss an email with the info to preorder ios 10 without the I... If
>> there will be one?
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Jenifer Barr
>> Jenifer571 on dice world
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RE: A little more info on the new iPhone and the new AirPods

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hello:

Am I to understand that those EarPads are not open ear?

Thanks.



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Subject: A little more info on the new iPhone and the new AirPods

I was just reading in my News app, in the text section, and according to an 
article, the 7+ has 3 GB of RAM, one more than the seven. That was rumored to 
be true, and apparently it is. Also, according to  the verge you can use those 
fancy new AirPods with non-Apple devices, since they are Bluetooth. You won't 
get the instant pairing etc.

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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Mary Otten]

I have seen a few articles stating that the plus has 3 GB of RAM versus two for 
the seven. They are basing that on geek bench scores, since nobody has actually 
torn one of these apart yet. That extra gigabyte of RAM might be a good thing.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Better battery time and better cammera it is, but we heard this.
> 
> There's also some kind of split screen when using the phone in landscape view 
> similar to iPad.
> 
> Besides this I'm not sure will the Seven have something more. I'm using 6S 
> Plus and talking from its perspective. If you have some vision left Plus 
> model is a must have but if you're completely sightless than it is up to you 
> do you need these extras or not.
> 
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>  
>  
> 9.9.2016. u 0:27, Sadam Ahmed je napisao/la:
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model. 
>> 
>> Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth it 
>> to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch? 
>> 
>> The improved battery life is the only up side I think. 
>> 
>> Your thoughts and comments welcome. 
>> 
>> Yours  sincerely, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Vocational Business education student 
>> 
>> Certificate IV in International Trade 
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Re: Getting Rid of Unwanted Groups in Message

[Bill Gallik]

I’ve done exactly that; to the point where I have no messages lingering in my 
Messages folders.  Still, when i try to send a message to any one of my three 
nieces the entire group is addressed.

Hmmm, I wonder if the fact that my Mac Mini, iPad and iPhone are linked and I 
haven’t made sure all three have messages cleared out is causing this 
problem?!?!

Think I’ll clean out messages in all three devices and see if that helps.



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> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:01 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> You can just delete that group conversation.  To do that, open the messages 
> app, swipe down to that conversation and then swipe down with one finger 
> until you hear delete, double tap on delete and its gone.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>> 
>> Several weeks ago I received a text message from a niece, that message was 
>> also sent to several other individuals in my CONTACTS but there were several 
>> addressees that I don’t know at all.  When I replied to this message it was 
>> routed to all addressees and now when I try to send a message to any one of 
>> the addressees I know that was in that first message it gets addressed to 
>> the entire group.
>> 
>> For example, my niece Kim was in the original list of addressees and when I 
>> tried to send her a message this morning it was sent to the entire list from 
>> that first message sent by my niece Kathy.
>> 
>> How in heck do I get rid of this annoying, unintended group messaging?
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
>> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure 
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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Chris Chaffin]

Before I made a final decision regarding which phone I got, I would want to 
hold each one to see which one I liked the best because of the size difference. 
 This is a personal preference and the decision can only be made by you.
I personally do not like the size of the plus phones, but that is just me, and 
there is many that love them.
Since the 6s phones are the same size, then you could just take a look at them 
just to determine which size you like the best.

Then if size does not really matter, then you can look at the other specks of 
both phones and see if the additional features of the Plus are worth the extra 
cost.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have seen a few articles stating that the plus has 3 GB of RAM versus two 
> for the seven. They are basing that on geek bench scores, since nobody has 
> actually torn one of these apart yet. That extra gigabyte of RAM might be a 
> good thing.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Better battery time and better cammera it is, but we heard this.
>> 
>> There's also some kind of split screen when using the phone in landscape 
>> view similar to iPad.
>> 
>> Besides this I'm not sure will the Seven have something more. I'm using 6S 
>> Plus and talking from its perspective. If you have some vision left Plus 
>> model is a must have but if you're completely sightless than it is up to you 
>> do you need these extras or not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> S poštovanjem
>> Gordan Radić
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 9.9.2016. u 0:27, Sadam Ahmed je napisao/la:
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model. 
>>> 
>>> Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth it 
>>> to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch? 
>>> 
>>> The improved battery life is the only up side I think. 
>>> 
>>> Your thoughts and comments welcome. 
>>> 
>>> Yours  sincerely, 
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed 
>>> 
>>> Vocational Business education student 
>>> 
>>> Certificate IV in International Trade
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RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Larry Lumpkin]

Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move on.  
Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the world wasn't 
going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening isn't a big deal for me 
but I'm retired and don't use my phone all that much for calling anyway.  If I 
need power sooner, I'll buy the Belcan thingie.


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Terje Strømberg
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com Strømberg" 
Cc: Terje Strømberg 
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the sales 
figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for sighted people. 

Take care


> 8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore :
> 
> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go back to 
> the old plug.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>  
> You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out by a 
> mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
> Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for 
> something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see what kind 
> of battery pack designs these same companies are going to come up with for 
> those of us who may want  or need that extra backup. There goes another 
> $40.00 or $80.00 or  whatever on top of everything else. That and what type 
> of solution they’re going to come up with  for all the credit  card swipers 
> that are so ubiquitous Appel was actually getting credit yesterday for only 
> selling the replacement dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows they’re 
> going to get their pound of flesh one  way or another.
> Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>  
> Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the box, but 
> for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about the lack of 
> ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the solution.
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iph
> one-7/
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Terje Strømberg]

It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the sales 
figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for sighted people. 

Take care


> 8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore :
> 
> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go back to 
> the old plug.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>  
> You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out by a 
> mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
> Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for something 
> that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see what kind of battery 
> pack designs these same companies are going to come up with for those of us 
> who may want  or need that extra backup. There goes another $40.00 or $80.00 
> or  whatever on top of everything else. That and what type of solution 
> they’re going to come up with  for all the credit  card swipers that are so 
> ubiquitous
> Appel was actually getting credit yesterday for only selling the replacement 
> dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows they’re going to get their pound of 
> flesh one  way or another.
> Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>  
> Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the box, but 
> for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about the lack of 
> ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the solution.
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/
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Re: iPhone 7 4.7-inch or iPhone7 Plus 5.5-inch?

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

What will you do with your existing device? Can you exchange the old
device with new one in your country?

On 9/9/16, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> The camera in the 7+ has an extra lens for telephoto.
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Later today I'll be upgrading my 6s to the current model.
>>
>> Just wondering to those of you have the larger plus version is it worth it
>> to go big this time or stay with the 4.7-inch?
>>
>> The improved battery life is the only up side I think.
>>
>> Your thoughts and comments welcome.
>>
>> Yours  sincerely,
>>
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>>
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Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

[englishrider91]

Jenifer, there is a podcast produced by Apple called Apple Keynotes. If you 
want, you can go back and listen to the 2016 WWDC presentation using this 
podcast.


Thanks, Ari

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 1:45 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Jonathan.
> Am I to assume correctly that IOS 10 comes out Tuesday?  No, I didn't
> listen to the keynote this past week, I wasn't able to and as the
> iPhone 7 is not on my radar I didn't feel the need.  I'm rather bummed
> I missed the one in June where IOS 10 was featured, but alas.
> This is by far, handsdown, the most well-written series of books
> written for the blind for IOS.  If anyone has never purchased any of
> the IOS without the I series yet, I would strongly recommend you do
> so.  Justsayin.  Cutos to Jonathan for providing this series.
> Jen
> 
> 
>> On 9/8/16, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> Hi Jenifer, I didn't post it here, but I did post it to the Mosen Consulting
>> Twitter feed, @MosenConsulting, and to our own announcements list. The URL
>> is:
>> http://www.mosen.org/ios10 
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for your interest.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>>> On 9/09/2016, at 1:27 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Did I miss an email with the info to preorder ios 10 without the I... If
>>> there will be one?
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenifer Barr
>>> Jenifer571 on dice world
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Dave]

No, but it is a big deal, for those of us, who utilise, more of our phones 
features.


Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move on. 
Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the world wasn't 
going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening isn't a big deal for 
me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all that much for calling anyway. 
If I need power sooner, I'll buy the Belcan thingie.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Terje Strømberg

Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com Strømberg" 
Cc: Terje Strømberg 
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the 
sales figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for sighted 
people.


Take care



8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore :

You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go back 
to the old plug.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out by a 
mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.

Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for
something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see what 
kind of battery pack designs these same companies are going to come up 
with for those of us who may want  or need that extra backup. There goes 
another $40.00 or $80.00 or  whatever on top of everything else. That and 
what type of solution they’re going to come up with  for all the credit 
card swipers that are so ubiquitous Appel was actually getting credit 
yesterday for only selling the replacement dongles for $9.00, but I guess 
this shows they’re going to get their pound of flesh one  way or another.

Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the box, 
but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about the 
lack of ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the solution.

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iph
one-7/
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org

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Re: Getting Rid of Unwanted Groups in Message

[Chris Chaffin]

You can just delete that group conversation.  To do that, open the messages 
app, swipe down to that conversation and then swipe down with one finger until 
you hear delete, double tap on delete and its gone.

Chris


> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Several weeks ago I received a text message from a niece, that message was 
> also sent to several other individuals in my CONTACTS but there were several 
> addressees that I don’t know at all.  When I replied to this message it was 
> routed to all addressees and now when I try to send a message to any one of 
> the addressees I know that was in that first message it gets addressed to the 
> entire group.
> 
> For example, my niece Kim was in the original list of addressees and when I 
> tried to send her a message this morning it was sent to the entire list from 
> that first message sent by my niece Kathy.
> 
> How in heck do I get rid of this annoying, unintended group messaging?
> 
> 
> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure 
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."
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Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA Networks

[Kelly Pierce]

Keith,

You likely did not pay full price for your phone when you entered into
your contract with Verizon.  Once you pay for your obligation, your
iPhone does not know that you are paid in full with your phone
company.  Verizon needs to authorize the unlocking of your phone.
Often this can be done online.  Folks at a Verizon store can help too.
If Verizon employees ignore your request to unlock your off contract
phone, then you can take steps to insist Verizon allow you full access
to your fully paid property.  Post if Verizon is giving you hassles
when you seek phone freedom.

Kelly




On 9/9/16, Kramlinger, Keith G.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’m curious how this works.
>
> I have an iPhone 6 with Verizon that comes off contract in October. If I buy
> an unlocked phone from Apple when available, can I just transfer my iPhone 6
> sim card into the new phone, and that’s it. Or, would Verizon need to get
> involved somehow with the new phone activation, and would that be
> problematic?
>
> Also, I seem to recall that phones of that generation were already unlocked.
> Is that the case, or will I need to get Verizon to unlock the iPhone 6?
>
> Many thanks. Keith
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not
> Support CDMA Networks
>
> You can just wait a few weeks until they release an unlocked version. I
> think last year, unlocked phones started popping  up around  the beginning
> of November. This is  what I plan on doing as I have nearly $200.00 in
> redeemable BestBuy points that I‘m going to use to offset the phone’s cost.
> If you  want to  go for last year’s model, the Apple store is selling the
> 6S, 6S Plus and SE unlocked. I think the SE 64GB dropped to $450.00 for
> example.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not
> Support CDMA Networks
>
> OK, let's say you go through the Apple store online and buy an unlocked
> phone. But apparently, you have to declare a carrier. So if you declare
> T-Mobile or AT, then pay for your phone, will you be getting one with one
> of those modems that won't work on the CDMA? I guess the safe thing would be
> to declare Verizon or Sprint.
> Mary
> ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Miller Family
> > wrote:
> I always buy my phone outright and unlocked, so this will make no difference
> to me.  But I wonder about those who try to switch simm cards for traveling?
>  This could be a deal breaker for them.
> Checkout my groups
> Come be sole out for Christ!
> https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life
> Come learn and teach about apple products!
> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
> Come chat about any and everything
> https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic
>
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten
> > wrote:
>
> I have to admit, this article did make me wonder if there were any other
> substantive differences between these modems. I had no clue, before seeing
> this article, that only the QUALCOMM modems supported all of the different
> network types. I have no interest in going back to Verizon, so for me
> personally, it probably doesn't matter. On the other hand, what else is
> hidden?
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> > wrote:
> Wow. Thanks very much for this, Mary.
>
> From:
> viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:30 PM
> To:
> viphone@googlegroups.com;macvisionar...@googlegroups.com;mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support
> CDMA Networks
>
> iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA Networks
> MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Joe Rossignol
>
> Choosing which iPhone model to purchase this year should be more carefully
> considered, as both AT and T-Mobile models of the iPhone
> 7 and iPhone 7 Plus do not
> support CDMA networks such as Verizon and Sprint in the United States. Apple
> confirmed the matter in fine print in the iPhone 7 tech
> specs and on its
> LTE page.
>
> 
> A customer that purchases an iPhone 7 from Apple's website and selects AT
> as their carrier, for example, would be unable to later use 

Re: Getting Rid of Unwanted Groups in Message

[Bill Gallik]

Well folks, I got the problem solved but it wasn't white as straight forward as 
just deleting the messages.

Here's what I had to do:
– Of course I open the Messages app
– Then, using the search facility, I did a search on the names of one of my 
nieces that was in that original group message
– Then, finding the entry with all those folks in it, I selected it
– Did the swipe down to more where I found a remove button

Wallah, that did the trick!

- Bill and Leader Dog Holland

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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[SSEric]

Take a look at drop text. It is a very simple editor and is free. I hope it 
does what you are looking for.

Eric
sseri...@gmail.com


On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:

Hi everyone.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of an ap that will let me edit files that are 
stored in my dropbox without having to download them first?
What I want to do is open a document within an ap, edit it, and have the 
changes save directly to dropbox, the way you can with a computer.
Is this even possible? If so, which ap can I use?
I'd prefer a free ap if possible.
Thanks in advance for any recommendations.

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I apologize for the rant I just sent.

[Dianne Phelps]

Friends,

 

The subject line says it all. Since my accident and head injury, my
processing of numbers is greatly diminished which drives me nuts. When I
read the topic list I heard iPhone 7.47 and 7+ which I heard as 7.55. This
along with other things which are results of the above are extremely
embarrassing to me. Math was never my strong suit anyway, and now, I can no
longer remember a phone number long enough to put it into the keypad, let
alone read things with numbers properly.

 

Having  said all that after my rant from the devil, those sizes aren't that
unacceptable, though I am not certain the size in inches of the 6 which I am
now using. Smaller, thinner and lighter pleases me just fine. I probably
won't do anything until next spring when my contract allows me to upgrade
again. This means I could opt to have a better camera for KNFB Reader
purposes and hopefully, better fit for my small hands.

 

Now, I'll go tuck my head under my wing and keep quiet.

 

Honestly, we all just need to relax over this stuff. It will all work out
best for all of us. Some people may change for a variety of reasons and
others of us will hang tough. I like far more about my iPhone now than I
dislike, and I think the larger size helped with my transition which I have
appreciated. I just need it to be a bit more comfortable to handle and less
awkward to carry.

 

Apple may not remain king for ever and ever, but they have definitely given
us an off the shelf chance to successfully use this technology. It's not
20/20, but I'll take what I can get that inches me  as close as I can get to
20/20. I wish I had had access to some of the magnifier technology we have
today when I had my 3 to 5% limited field vision. The best we could get back
in the day were coke-bottle-bottom glasses for which I was so thankful.
Then, when I lost my partial vision, we had the optacon which put the print
under my finger and allowed me to really see punctuation.

 

Sending happy smiles to all,

 

Dianne and Hibiscus

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RE: listening and charging and thoughts on the presentation

[Kramlinger, Keith G.]

It sounds to me as if one couldn't use the edge features if the device was in a 
case, as a case needs to cover the edges to hold it to the device, unless, of 
course, I could just totally not understand this.

Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 7:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: listening and charging and thoughts on the presentation

I don't think it's stupid at all. Remember, I don't have an S7 Edge myself, so 
I'm just going by what I've read, what I've seen on lists and what my friends 
and relatives who have an S7 Edge have told me.

The curved edges give you a bit more real estate in the same form factor. The 
S7 Edge for example has a 5.5 inch screen while the S7 has a
5.1 inch screen and the dimensions are basically identical.

The Edge can be used a bit easier with one hand since you can place your 
favorite contacts and apps on the edges and reach them with the fingers of the 
hand holding the device. You can also have information sent to the screens on 
the edges, so for example, you could place your phone face down so you won't 
get interrupted with vibrations or ring tones but still see messages appear on 
the edges or have them change colors to indicate you have a call or a message 
from someone in particular. 
Samsung recently opened up the interfaces to the edges, so app developers can 
now think of all sorts of ways to take advantages of the edges.

Finally, it just makes the S7 Edge look and feel cool!

I'm not sure how much a blind person can take advantage of these features, but 
like I said, I'd expect an Apple implementation to be similar and accessible. 
Apple will also open this up to developers down the road, if Apple takes this 
path, and again you'll have innovative app developers coming up with all kinds 
of things.

On 09/09/16 09:08, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>
> Christopher, can I ask a very stupid question? What is the difference 
> between the run-of-the-mill Android and the Edge? Obviously it has to 
> do with the edges of the phone, but what and what does it do? Thanks.
>
> reggie & Lex
>
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain  > wrote:
>
> I've read on different Android lists both that the edges of the S7 
> Edge are accessible and that they're not. The difference seems to be 
> that people who state they're accessible tend to actually have an S7 
> Edge, whereas those who say they aren't accessible don't and are just 
> repeating what they've heard. Therefore, I tend to think the edges are 
> accessible, but I don't have an S7 Edge myself. Either way, if an 
> iPhone were to have edges then I'm sure Apple would make them 
> accessible with VoiceOver. That doesn't mean that they'll turn out to 
> be particularly useful for a blind person, or a sighted person either.
>
> On 08/09/16 17:11, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Well that's interesting, since I have read on the android list that 
>> the edge part is absolutely not accessible. I don't own one, so I'm 
>> only basing my statement on what I heard from others who supposedly do.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Robin >  > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> AsFarAs I Know
>>> TheEdges of Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge are IndeedAccessible AtLeast With 
>>> its Samsung TTS ThatBeing VoiceAssistant JustSayin'
>>> At 08:38 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
 Hi Sieghard,
 I think the extra battery life, especially in the 6S versus the 
 seven, it's kind of compelling. That might be enough to let me not 
 use a battery case, which I find I have to do and have had to do 
 ever since my first iPhone, a for S. The improved sound will be 
 nice, but it wouldn't be compelling for me in and of itself. The 
 loss of the headphone jack doesn't make a difference to me 
 personally. So I'm going to go for an upgrade from a 6S to a seven. 
 I don't like the plus. It's too big. I'm actually not so sure I'm 
 looking forward to a new form factor. They are talking about the 
 curved thing like Samsung has with their edge. As I understand it, 
 that extra screen, the edge, isn't accessible. Now maybe Apple will 
 find a way to make that happen. Still, I just don't see the point. 
 Wireless charging, still don't care. Better screen? Again, don't 
 care. So all the new stuff they're talking about for next year I 
 guess I just don't find all that appealing. Different strokes.

 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

> Hi Reggie,
>
> Which phone do you currently have? If it is a 6/6 Plus or earlier 
> the upgrade is probably 

Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list but 
since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as well as 
touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of upgrading a 
device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via their site 
with a screen reader?
My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and on the 
web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements which for 
some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site using VoiceOver or a 
screen reader.
Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully improve 
their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be helpful to 
gage the experiences of others should there be any.
It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of moving 
through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you were to 
select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a link for 
instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any other gesture 
you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were good and stuck 
with no way forward.
On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and storage 
capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine but 
list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 windows 
screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the continue 
links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were quite 
tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that which 
I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively communicate with AT 
in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going forward.  By and 
large I feel AT has done a decent job concerning accessibility both in their 
iOS app and on site.  Here’s hoping this glitchy area can be ironed out too.
Robin

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Re: I apologize for the rant I just sent.

[Andy Baracco]

The new iPhones are the same sizes as the 6 and 6 plus.

Andy

From: Dianne Phelps 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: I apologize for the rant I just sent.
Friends,

 

The subject line says it all. Since my accident and head injury, my processing 
of numbers is greatly diminished which drives me nuts. When I read the topic 
list I heard iPhone 7.47 and 7+ which I heard as 7.55. This along with other 
things which are results of the above are extremely embarrassing to me. Math 
was never my strong suit anyway, and now, I can no longer remember a phone 
number long enough to put it into the keypad, let alone read things with 
numbers properly.

 

Having  said all that after my rant from the devil, those sizes aren’t that 
unacceptable, though I am not certain the size in inches of the 6 which I am 
now using. Smaller, thinner and lighter pleases me just fine. I probably won’t 
do anything until next spring when my contract allows me to upgrade again. This 
means I could opt to have a better camera for KNFB Reader purposes and 
hopefully, better fit for my small hands.

 

Now, I’ll go tuck my head under my wing and keep quiet.

 

Honestly, we all just need to relax over this stuff. It will all work out best 
for all of us. Some people may change for a variety of reasons and others of us 
will hang tough. I like far more about my iPhone now than I dislike, and I 
think the larger size helped with my transition which I have appreciated. I 
just need it to be a bit more comfortable to handle and less awkward to carry.

 

Apple may not remain king for ever and ever, but they have definitely given us 
an off the shelf chance to successfully use this technology. It’s not 20/20, 
but I’ll take what I can get that inches me  as close as I can get to 20/20. I 
wish I had had access to some of the magnifier technology we have today when I 
had my 3 to 5% limited field vision. The best we could get back in the day were 
coke-bottle-bottom glasses for which I was so thankful. Then, when I lost my 
partial vision, we had the optacon which put the print under my finger and 
allowed me to really see punctuation.

 

Sending happy smiles to all,

 

Dianne and Hibiscus

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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Andy Baracco]

The customer base determines that. When I purchased my first cell phone in 1994 
it was like a brick. Over the years they shrunk to be absolutely tiny. But as 
the capability of these devices increased, there became a need to display more 
content on the screen. Android users are very used to large devices. In fact, 
the newest version of Android will allow you to run two apps simultaneously, 
with each occupying half the screen. i thought the form factor of the iPhone 5 
and 5S was perfect for me, but I adjusted to the iPhone 6, but would not want 
anything larger. Personally, I wish that Apple would devote as much energy to 
increasing battery life as it does to adding features that many could care less 
about.

Andy

From: Dianne Phelps 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices 
to become?
I still question why the size keeps enlarging? When I upgraded the last time, I 
looked at the 6 and 6+, which, I felt was like carrying a tablet around. That 
may well be important for sighted consumers, but I am tired of trying of 
carrying these huge things around. I need something which fits in a pocket 
without falling out or in a small purse. I need decent sound and some ability 
to connect with my hearing aids. This all means I am still interested in the 
SE. Having a nice camera on board would be nice for when I want to hand my 
phone to someone to take a picture, though since my sister and sister-in-law 
are the shutter bug historians for our family, it is not totally necessary for 
me.

 

With the sizes as they now are, I may as well pack my Surface around.

 

I like a great deal of what Apple has done with this product and for their 
attention to our needs with Voiceover and commend them for these products. I 
need Siri to become more accurate, though, it has improved immensely from its 
beginning and anticipate continued improvement. The camera concerns me only in 
as much as I depend upon KNFB reader, and the best quality of camera we can 
have may be important to its performance. I figure the SE may be better than 
the camera on the 6.

 

Lastly, I think the reason the size of the 6 also bothers me is, because I have 
small hands, and I find the larger size harder to hold at times, especially 
when using the KNFB Reader. I find it difficult to both hold the iPhone and 
double tap to take the picture.

 

Ok, I am off my cantankerous  soap box now. Just my thoughts since for me 
earphone jack or not isn’t the largest issue.

 

Relax and enjoy the weekend. As my great grandmother used to say, it will all 
come out in the “worsh”. She was Irish and wash came out sounding like worsh.

 

Smiling,

 

Dianne and Hibiscus

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Re: My question is still how large are they going to allow these devices to become?

[Kelly Pierce]

The iPhone SE is at a much lower price point than the regular size
model.  Before Apple offers a lower priced version of the iPhone 7
functionality with a smaller handset, it will offer the bigger size
phones for those who want the latest technology.  while small phones
will continue to have a following, most people like bigger phones and
Apple makes more money with them.  It is likely Apple will update the
four inch size phone at some point.

Kelly


On 9/9/16, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> The customer base determines that. When I purchased my first cell phone in
> 1994 it was like a brick. Over the years they shrunk to be absolutely tiny.
> But as the capability of these devices increased, there became a need to
> display more content on the screen. Android users are very used to large
> devices. In fact, the newest version of Android will allow you to run two
> apps simultaneously, with each occupying half the screen. i thought the form
> factor of the iPhone 5 and 5S was perfect for me, but I adjusted to the
> iPhone 6, but would not want anything larger. Personally, I wish that Apple
> would devote as much energy to increasing battery life as it does to adding
> features that many could care less about.
>
> Andy
>
> From: Dianne Phelps
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My question is still how large are they going to allow these
> devices to become?
> I still question why the size keeps enlarging? When I upgraded the last
> time, I looked at the 6 and 6+, which, I felt was like carrying a tablet
> around. That may well be important for sighted consumers, but I am tired of
> trying of carrying these huge things around. I need something which fits in
> a pocket without falling out or in a small purse. I need decent sound and
> some ability to connect with my hearing aids. This all means I am still
> interested in the SE. Having a nice camera on board would be nice for when I
> want to hand my phone to someone to take a picture, though since my sister
> and sister-in-law are the shutter bug historians for our family, it is not
> totally necessary for me.
>
>
>
> With the sizes as they now are, I may as well pack my Surface around.
>
>
>
> I like a great deal of what Apple has done with this product and for their
> attention to our needs with Voiceover and commend them for these products. I
> need Siri to become more accurate, though, it has improved immensely from
> its beginning and anticipate continued improvement. The camera concerns me
> only in as much as I depend upon KNFB reader, and the best quality of camera
> we can have may be important to its performance. I figure the SE may be
> better than the camera on the 6.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I think the reason the size of the 6 also bothers me is, because I
> have small hands, and I find the larger size harder to hold at times,
> especially when using the KNFB Reader. I find it difficult to both hold the
> iPhone and double tap to take the picture.
>
>
>
> Ok, I am off my cantankerous  soap box now. Just my thoughts since for me
> earphone jack or not isn’t the largest issue.
>
>
>
> Relax and enjoy the weekend. As my great grandmother used to say, it will
> all come out in the “worsh”. She was Irish and wash came out sounding like
> worsh.
>
>
>
> Smiling,
>
>
>
> Dianne and Hibiscus
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Re: backing up the phone

[Louana Sterling]

I have this problem on the5 and 5s.

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 5:32 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Marie,
> 
> I have have had this problem from time to time with the 6S. I have found that 
> Siri gets me out of the problem. I askSiri  for voice-over to be put on, 
> assuming that it is turned off, and Siri sometimes says that it is already 
> on. I therefore say turn voice-over off. After doing this I can then ask for 
> voice-over to be put back on once again and it then works!I think it is 
> another of those voice-over bugs and I must report it. I am really waiting to 
> see whether it happens to me with iOS 10.
> 
> I hope this helps!
> 
> Carol P
> 
> On 9 Sep 2016, at 19:20, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> This is a cautionary tale with a happy ending. On Thursday night I couldn’t 
> get Siri and voiceover to work. The last time that happened I plugged it into 
> my computer and voila. I tried it again but couldn’t do anything with the 
> phone. Well I thought that since I couldn’t do anything else I may as well 
> back up the phone. I called disability support. We had to do a restore to the 
> phone. Well I restored to the backup I made the night before and was all up 
> to date. The moral of the story is backup your phone.
> 
> Marie Lyons
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Re: listening and charging and thoughts on the presentation

[Christopher Chaltain]

There are cases for the S7 Edge. The ones I've seen are pretty low 
profile. They basically cover the back and wrap up over the top and the 
bottom, leaving the sides clear. They also have screen protectors, but 
I've heard they're pretty tricky to get installed and wrap around the edges.


I don't use cases myself, so I don't research this issue much, but like 
I said I have relations and friends who have cases on their S7 Edges. 
There could also be cases for the S7 Edge that I haven't seen, but I'm 
sure a web search will lead you or anyone else to more information.


On 09/09/16 19:54, Kramlinger, Keith G. wrote:

It sounds to me as if one couldn't use the edge features if the device was in a 
case, as a case needs to cover the edges to hold it to the device, unless, of 
course, I could just totally not understand this.

Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 7:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: listening and charging and thoughts on the presentation

I don't think it's stupid at all. Remember, I don't have an S7 Edge myself, so 
I'm just going by what I've read, what I've seen on lists and what my friends 
and relatives who have an S7 Edge have told me.

The curved edges give you a bit more real estate in the same form factor. The 
S7 Edge for example has a 5.5 inch screen while the S7 has a
5.1 inch screen and the dimensions are basically identical.

The Edge can be used a bit easier with one hand since you can place your 
favorite contacts and apps on the edges and reach them with the fingers of the 
hand holding the device. You can also have information sent to the screens on 
the edges, so for example, you could place your phone face down so you won't 
get interrupted with vibrations or ring tones but still see messages appear on 
the edges or have them change colors to indicate you have a call or a message 
from someone in particular.
Samsung recently opened up the interfaces to the edges, so app developers can 
now think of all sorts of ways to take advantages of the edges.

Finally, it just makes the S7 Edge look and feel cool!

I'm not sure how much a blind person can take advantage of these features, but 
like I said, I'd expect an Apple implementation to be similar and accessible. 
Apple will also open this up to developers down the road, if Apple takes this 
path, and again you'll have innovative app developers coming up with all kinds 
of things.

On 09/09/16 09:08, Regina Alvarado wrote:


Christopher, can I ask a very stupid question? What is the difference
between the run-of-the-mill Android and the Edge? Obviously it has to
do with the edges of the phone, but what and what does it do? Thanks.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I've read on different Android lists both that the edges of the S7
Edge are accessible and that they're not. The difference seems to be
that people who state they're accessible tend to actually have an S7
Edge, whereas those who say they aren't accessible don't and are just
repeating what they've heard. Therefore, I tend to think the edges are
accessible, but I don't have an S7 Edge myself. Either way, if an
iPhone were to have edges then I'm sure Apple would make them
accessible with VoiceOver. That doesn't mean that they'll turn out to
be particularly useful for a blind person, or a sighted person either.

On 08/09/16 17:11, Mary Otten wrote:

Well that's interesting, since I have read on the android list that
the edge part is absolutely not accessible. I don't own one, so I'm
only basing my statement on what I heard from others who supposedly do.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Robin  >
wrote:


AsFarAs I Know
TheEdges of Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge are IndeedAccessible AtLeast With
its Samsung TTS ThatBeing VoiceAssistant JustSayin'
At 08:38 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:

Hi Sieghard,
I think the extra battery life, especially in the 6S versus the
seven, it's kind of compelling. That might be enough to let me not
use a battery case, which I find I have to do and have had to do
ever since my first iPhone, a for S. The improved sound will be
nice, but it wouldn't be compelling for me in and of itself. The
loss of the headphone jack doesn't make a difference to me
personally. So I'm going to go for an upgrade from a 6S to a seven.
I don't like the plus. It's too big. I'm actually not so sure I'm
looking forward to a new form factor. They are talking about the
curved thing like Samsung has with their edge. As I understand it,
that extra screen, the edge, isn't accessible. Now maybe Apple will
find a way to make that happen. Still, I just don't see the point.
Wireless charging, still don't care. Better screen? Again, don't
care. So all