Re: [WISPA] Leaving the list
Ralph, From Canada, This is a list of people who did what no one else would do. You are a Johnny (excuse me Johnny O) come lately and want the rules that you have in your HAM world. We never had those, no RUS, no easy access to the FCC, no a whole lot of help, but bunch of losers got more done with the scraps from the table than anyone else. I did not see the HAM's going to the FCC and saying this is a good thing, you should help them. I see nothing but condemnation for the work we did, earthlink and the rest of the losers with their year 2005 wireless that is not profitable does not work, etc, etc. Good Bye people, Rick find another moderator for Canada, I'm gone. Scriv, Marlon, Johnny, and the rest of you Good Bye. Again WISPA general list is revolving around the Good ole United States. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Ralph wrote: John- I certainly hope you don't think I'm sniping at your character! My request is simply that our organization, WISPA, state its position on legal operation and the use of certified systems. It could be a position paper, a resolution, or anything else official that addresses this specific issue. Certainly changing and improving the FCC regulations is what we all want, but that hasn't happened. We have to work with what we have, not go around it because we think its wrong, or unfair, or stupid, or whatever. As many have said, it is a not a popular subject, but the FCC rules are a fact of life and WISPA needs to decide what it does or does not support. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Leaving the list I have tried to share what I believe are good paths to proceed for WISPs and WISPA and mostly all I get back are rude comments and smug lashes at my character here. I have too many things going to be bothered with all the divisive rhetoric and sniping attitudes from many on this list server. I am leaving the list for a while. Someone can let me know when people settle down and decide they want to focus on unification instead of dividing the group. Good bye for now... Scriv ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
Thats better. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: ppttthhhttt Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Yeah, whether that's a good thing (Marlon being around) or not has yet to be determined. :-p --Mike ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
1998 with original Waverider Equipment You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mike Hammett wrote: Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division multiple access OBE or OOBE: out-of-band emissions PAN: personal area network Part 15: refers to FCC regulations in Part 15.247 of the Federal Code governing certain UL bands PIU: power interface unit PoE: power over Ethernet PtMP or PmP: point-to-multipoint PtP: Point-to-point QAM: quadrature amplitude modulation QinQ: VLAN type that allows customer to have own VLAN inside the operator's VLAN QoS: quality of service RAN: radio access network RFI: radio frequency interference RSSI: receive(r) signal strength index/indication rtPS: real time polling services RTS/CTS: request to send, clear to send Rx: receive RTCP: real time control protocol RTP: real time protocol SCADA: supervisory control and data acquisition SDR: software defined radio SIF: short inter-frame spacing SIP: session initiation protocol SNR: signal to noise ratio SOFDMA: scalable orthogonal frequency division multiple access STC: space time coding TDD: time division duplex TDMA: time division multiple access TVoIP: TV over IP Tx: transmit UL: offen used to abbreviate unlicensed, but also could mean
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
See what happens Marlon, when you don't slapdown these anklebiters You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mike Hammett wrote: Yeah, whether that's a good thing (Marlon being around) or not has yet to be determined. :-p --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Yes, some of us have been around here a while. There used to be one list back when I made my first post in December of 1999. That was when Jason Simons of Midcoast in Maine was the sage of WISPs. And I remember being there at Mike's first WISPCON when Scriv showed up all wide eyed and chomping at the bit. Now he is out there bidding for licensed spectrum and wearing the leadership mantle along with a number of you. Marlon was of course around -- always has been and probably always will! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called AES, advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OAM: operation, administration maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division
[WISPA] Apache question
I am hosting a domain name (blahblah.ca) that must be re-directed to another hosting company (blahblah.com). I have read some info but cannot make sense of it. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test ignore
look whose talking You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Mac Dearman wrote: Test Quit goofing off and get to work! ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
Mac take it to the member list, as I am also interested in license. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Jack, Most of the 2.5 and 2.3GHz spectrum has been being snatched up by Sprint in the last 3 years. They aren't doing anything with it right now that I am aware of, but rumor has it that they are in cahoots with Clear Wire. I have a contract here between Sprint and the local educational facility that shows a onetime payment of $50,000.00 and $250.00 a month. They locked the spectrum into contract for the remainder of the 30 years. It would have been nice if I had been a few months earlier on my quest! A man can find open/unused spectrum if he knows how/where to look in his area. Drop me a line off list or on the member list and I will be glad to share with you what I have learned lately. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum I have a client with a 900 MHz network that has been deployed more than 5 years. Apparently without doing a wireless site survey, the City has deployed two 900 MHz automatic meter reading systems. One uses Itron hardware and one use Utillicom hardware. There is now a head-to-head battle as the City networks are creating intense interference problems for the WISP network. I know all about interference-reduction techniques as I've been utilizing and teaching these techniques for years but what I don't know about are the possibilities of leasing licensed spectrum (2.3 or 2.5) in order to estimate the cost of moving from the 900 MHz band to a licensed range. I'd appreciate it if anyone could offer any advice or insight into possibly leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz frequency space. Is this possible or is it out of the question? Thanks in advance, jack -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting FCC Part 15 Certification for Manufacturers and Service Providers Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 1:46 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Tranzeo's can run at 24volts You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as Trango Tlink 10's (24vdc)and even one Proxim Radio (48vdc) in place there. Thanks, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions What gear do you need to power on ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 10:15 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Quick Apache Help
My web guy is in hospital - long story short - getting an error and need to bring up sites right now. What do i know about apache, about the same as I'm being paid - zero. :-) I need to do this like yesterday? So I am on a very sharp learning curve. Here's an error I'm getting: Executing /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart .. Stopping httpd: [ OK ] Starting httpd: [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.goldenbeachestates.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.cobourgyachtclub.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.trussworthy.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.goldenbeachestates.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.cayita.com:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.trussworthy.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.fbparch.com:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.cayita.com:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.castleton.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.fbparch.com:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.isowall.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.castleton.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.hamiltontownship.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.isowall.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts [ OK ] I don't know what it means -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service
Jack it must be a slow day in that office of yours. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Jack Unger wrote: Jory, Im glad you posted this information. I checked out their websites. On the technical side, they release NO technical details yet make performance promises that appear to break the laws of physics. Given the technical information that they have published (and not published) so far, I'd advise *SEND NO MONEY* and stay as far away from these companies as you possibly can. Don't worry about them putting you out of business. 1. On the technical side; their claims are unsupported. 2. On the marketing side, they want your money now but they can't give you any technical details until later. 3. On the fear side, they threaten to put you out of business if you don't sign up. NOTE: If you do decide to go ahead and send them money, please let me know immediately because I'd like to give you more information about a tremendous business opportunity for you to get free money for simply telling people about a new magic liquid that I have discovered that has the power to make people believe that their cancer (any and every kind of cancer) has been cured. As a free bonus and for no additional charge, with every order I'll include a bottle of my brand new, world-famous, gender-bending little white pills. One of these pills, when taken with my magic liquid will restore the sexual potency of everyone between 30 and 99 years of age to the level of a 15-year old teenager. Just think, my little white pills when taken together with my magic liquid have the power to virtually banish starvation from the world and to practically erase death. To get your free money I'll simply ask you to send me $99 right away to sign up to start your free money rolling in. Please act now because this chance may never come your way again! Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. Check with your own doctor before taking or changing any medications that you may already be taking. Nothing in the above post is intended to diagnose or to cure any disease or any medical condition. Jory Privett wrote: HiHas anyone heard of these guys? They keep calling me wanting me to sign up to resell their service saying that if I don't there new technoligy will put me out of business. So far they claim 1.5M NLOS at 30 miles. They say it will cut through trees up to 16 to 20 miles in mountain terain. And they are selling T1s for $19.95 and T3s for $70-$80 with no setup, installation, or equipment costs.. And I get a whole $3 for for each customer I sign up. They also claim to be able to sell T2 and T3 service also. They claim to have 3 licenesed frequencies but will not disclose them. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Lots of marketing fluff and no facts. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Jack Sample / Namia Corporation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service Hi Jory, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hopefully you haven't forgotten me since a lot of water has passed under the bridge since I last communicated with you regarding the T-1 to T-3 level mobile wireless Internet service that is soon to be launched on the world. Well, you may have thought that we went away but it was only a temporary delay. First of all I want to apologize to you for the early notification that turned out to be a false summit. We had felt that launch was eminent when we sent out the cards late last year. The setback was only temporary though and we are finally emerging from the quiet time and able to share what is going on with everyone. I have included the last 7 months of short notes from ItsYourNet CEO Ken Stewart to catch you up on where are are and what can be expected in the next few months. I don't have any information other than what comes out in these news briefs so just stay tuned for further developments. January 4: From ItsYourNet CEO Ken Stewart... The questions are still coming in about the Wireless Internet project and Stock in the Corporation since I released the last newsletter announcing the orders we are under with the Quiet Time on Thursday, December 22, 2006. So... Let me say this again... We are under strict orders to not say anything further about the Wireless project until authorized to do so. And as a result, these questions need to stop coming in to our support channels - Thank you! Furthermore, with a $13-Billion investor, no Seed or Preferred Stock needs to be offered and no other investment capital needs to be sought, so sale of Stock is not required to raise the money needed to launch the project. What you do
[WISPA] Wimax
I have to attend a meeting tomorrow and need some real world experience on wimax and mesh. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wimax
Thank you everyone, now I guess it is time to sleep and see where we go tomorrow. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Patrick Leary wrote: Thanks Felix. So what is Jeff saying? (Got a direct link to the article?) Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wimax Pat, there is a good write up about Alvarion on www.wimax.com blog by a Mr. Orr. Felix --- Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, 802.16d gear has been out there for a while now in WiMAX Forum certified versions (our .16d was certified two years ago). The plugfests you see going today are for 802.16e products, but the actual 16.e certification waves do not start until early next year. Our commercially selling .16e versions have been in the market now for over 1/2 a year and are selling in 3.5, 2.5 and 2.3 GHz versions. These are products we will be submitting for when the certification waves finally begin. In terms of Alvarion, we are selling both .16d and .16d WiMAX products in commercial volumes. Our next quarterly report will be made on August 1 and we always give deep detail on what and how much is selling and where. To give you an example of where we are, from our last SEC quarterly filing in May 2007 here are some statistics: * More than 150 commercial WiMAX deployments and another 220 active WiMAX trials * Shipped BreezeMAX 802.16e platform to over 20 customers * Approximately $33 million in BreezeMAX shipments for the first quarter These are hard (as in SEC legally-binding) numbers from the quarterly PR and I include them to demonstrate that WiMAX shipments are more than just market hype, at least from our standpoint (we are shipping more WiMAX than any other company). Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax Sam: I'm interested in verifying those statistics too because my understanding is the WIMax Plugfests are still going on and most of the equipment being installed is preWiMax: albeit in the 802.16 (d) flavor. I will post to the www.wimax.com blog and find out. I know many of the guys on the webserv. Carl - are you giving a presentation on WiMax? Seems like there are some subject matter experts or knowlegable people who participate on this listserv who can help you. Felix A. Lopez Wireless Practitioner --- Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone confirm 232,000 WiMAX customers for Clearwire? I could believe total customers, but I would think that the majority of those would be using NextNet equipment and not WiMax. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Felix A. Lopez wrote: Carl, Regarding your question, my understanding is a few of us wireless practioneers blog on various wimax sites in relation to WISP and enterprise. My subject matter expertise relates to utility applicaitons and munis. Many of these sectors are evaluating WiMax and WiFi for certain mobile and connectivity appilcations - mobile workforce, utility metering, SCADA, IP enabled utility services. But for For genral information on installations, take a look at the following study provided by Maravedis at www.wimax.com Please note my quotation marks in respect to the author of the report: Adelane Fellah, CEO and founder of Maravedis: By the end of Q1 2007, the 110 operators in our (Maravedis) industry-leading WiMAXCounts Ã'-- theWiMAX Operators Tracking Service Ã'-- accounted for nearly 1 million WiMAX subscribers. A total of 150,000 subscribers were added over the first quarter of 2007, for 17.5% quarterly growth. The year-over-year growth in Q1 2007 was 85%. The United States, Spain, and Australia are the top three countries in number of subscribers. In Q1 2007 they had 0.5 million WiMAX subscribers. The operators with the most WiMAX subscribers within a single region in Q1 2007 are Clearwire (US), with a customer base of 232,000; Unwired Australia, with more than 63,500; Iberbanda (Spain), with over 40,000; and MVS Mexico (ClearwireÃ''s partner in Mexico), with 35,000 (this last figure is from Q4 2006). http
[WISPA] Reverse DNS
If I only have a 16 pubic ip addresses, can I control my reverse dns or should my upstream be doing that In the past it was always done that way, but now they are try to change and some of my email is not working - no reverse dns. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS
They will look into it this afternoon. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Dennis Burgess wrote: I don't konw if it is RFC or not. Just saying, it can be done! On 7/12/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My fault; I didn't realize RFC 2317 had changed things. -Matt Graham McIntire wrote: I have a delegated reverse on a /25 from ATT. If you do a whois on my netblock the reverse DNS servers are still ATT's, but they forward all the requests on that block to my servers. Graham On 7/12/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delegated reverse DNS control cannot work with smaller than /24 IP blocks. -Matt Carl A jeptha wrote: If I only have a 16 pubic ip addresses, can I control my reverse dns or should my upstream be doing that In the past it was always done that way, but now they are try to change and some of my email is not working - no reverse dns. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Reverse lookup
can someone do a reverse look up on the following # 142.46.11.217. I need to know who is answering for it. Also need to know how to create a proper revers name for 16 ip addresses in bind all I'm is info for a /24 -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse lookup
Our upstream has finally plug in our server names to their dns servers and now we are working again You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Carl A jeptha wrote: can someone do a reverse look up on the following # 142.46.11.217. I need to know who is answering for it. Also need to know how to create a proper revers name for 16 ip addresses in bind all I'm is info for a /24 Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse lookup
Ok will try this. thanks. will report back.
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Graham McIntyre wrote:
My /25 is delegated to me from ATT as the zone:
128/25.xx.xx.12.in-addr.arpa
In my named.conf I have:
zone 128/25.xx.xx.12.in-addr.arpa {
type master;
file master/29.xx.12.in-addr.arpa;
};
Take note the CIDR and last octet of my network are reversed, my
netblock is 12.xx.xx.128/25.
Graham
On 7/12/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carl A jeptha wrote:
can someone do a reverse look up on the following # 142.46.11.217. I
need to know who is answering for it. Also need to know how to
create a
proper revers name for 16 ip addresses in bind all I'm is info for
a /24
I don't think BIND can handle smaller allocations. You may have to
pretend to be authoritative for the whole /24. (Your upstream will,
presumably, only route requests for your /28 to you, so the only folks
who would ever know the difference are you, and any customers of yours
who do reverse lookups on the rest of that /24, which probably doesn't
happen too often.)
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Reverse lookup
I have done as you directed and it is working, I love my freedom, if I
want to change a server I don't have to fill in the forms in triplicate
and wait three for the instruction to executed wrong. :-D
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Graham McIntire wrote:
My /25 is delegated to me from ATT as the zone:
128/25.xx.xx.12.in-addr.arpa
In my named.conf I have:
zone 128/25.xx.xx.12.in-addr.arpa {
type master;
file master/29.xx.12.in-addr.arpa;
};
Take note the CIDR and last octet of my network are reversed, my
netblock is 12.xx.xx.128/25.
Graham
On 7/12/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carl A jeptha wrote:
can someone do a reverse look up on the following # 142.46.11.217. I
need to know who is answering for it. Also need to know how to
create a
proper revers name for 16 ip addresses in bind all I'm is info for
a /24
I don't think BIND can handle smaller allocations. You may have to
pretend to be authoritative for the whole /24. (Your upstream will,
presumably, only route requests for your /28 to you, so the only folks
who would ever know the difference are you, and any customers of yours
who do reverse lookups on the rest of that /24, which probably doesn't
happen too often.)
David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Ignore testing mailserver migration
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Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Sam, Thank you, that is what I wanted to hear. If a system board is certified then the operating system is certified for FCC and of course your mini-pci was certified by the manufacturer. Now anybody can attach an antenna and have it certified. Total certification. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Sam Tetherow wrote: For the record, I don't feel that you have no credibility because you no longer run a WISP, I just don't agree with you and if 15.201-221 is your basis for the belief that a RB can't be considered under component rules I have to believe that you don't understand what a RB is. It is NOT an intentional radiator which is what 15.201-221 addresses. A RB is simply a single board computer, the same thing as a soekris, gateworks or wrap board as well as most PDA (pre-wifi) and most laptops. The only intentional radiator is the miniPCI or PCMCIA radio that is put into the expansion slot of the SBC, just like in a laptop which has a PCMCIA and miniPCI slot where I can install wireless cards. I am NOT saying that with 100% certainty, the RB can be component certified, the question needs to be asked of the FCC. And this still leaves the fact that as far as I know none of the MT routerboards are even FCC part B certified. This also does not address the fact that you still would have to use certified radio/antenna pairs in the SBC once component certification was verified. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Dawn DiPietro wrote: Sam, Since some here feel I have no credibility because I no longer run a WISP I will let you decide from this information provided. Starting on page 78 of the following link should explain why the wireless devices in question cannot be certified as computers. http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules/part15/part15-2-16-06.pdf Regards, Dawn DiPietro Sam Tetherow wrote: I think the question that really hasn't been answered is if a RB can be certified class B and then use a certified radio/antenna combo as is allowed with a PC/laptop. And you are right that then FCC makes the rules. What is not clear is that Dawn's (and others) position that the component rules can not apply to an RB or other SBC. The only people that can clarify this is the FCC. As for FCC certification in general, I think there are two major factors that come into play with uncertified gear. There are several that deployed the equipment under the false impression that it was legal because they complied with the EIRP rules (and many still persist in this belief). The other is the simple fact that no one has been fined, to my knowledge, for using uncertified gear. There have been instances of people that have been fined for using over EIRP and unauthorized use of licensed bands. If the FCC has not fined for the behavior yet and has made unofficial statements to the effect that they are more worried about EIRP and 477, it comes as no surprise that people will not follow the law. As you pointed out most people regularly break the speed limit, which is a law with an associated fine but they continue to do so because the fine is not large enough or incurred often enough to make it an effective deterrent. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Matt Liotta wrote: This has become a ridiculous thread. Dawn's customer experience is irrelevant in this case. Plenty of operators who have lots of customers (including me) understand and agree with the position presented. Don't kill the messenger! The FCC makes the rules; not Dawn or me or any of the other folks who have made accurate statements regarding certification. Use of certified equipment is required by law. Many people break laws for a variety of reasons, but that doesn't change the law. For example, everyday I drive over the speed limit and occasionally I am fined for doing so. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tower logo
Hi, I am looking for a tower logo in a format that can be used for signage on my service van and lawnsigns. Any free stuff about. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Antenna Location on Tower
Scott, I think it has to do with the tilt of the antenna in radiomobile, to verify bring the line level an see what you get. I have seen this in Radiomobile, and i also have not found a way to add tilt to the antenna either. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Scott Reed wrote: Has anyone else had to deal with this? Scott Reed wrote: I have several POPs with multiple APs on them. All but one have decent backhaul and I knew that when I put it up. I am getting ready to put up another tower and have run into something I am not sure how to figure out. I have used RadioMobile to determine backhaul links and customer links and I am pretty sure I have it setup correctly and I am getting good data. My problem is that I don't know where on the tower to put the backhaul antenna. Here is what I have from RadioMobile: Antenna Height RSSI 65 58.3 70 58.4 75 63.3 80 64.6 85 58.5 90 58.3 95 64.6 100 58.5 105 58.9 110 58.2 115 58.9 116 59.5 117 60.8 118 63.3 119 66.8 120 72.1 121 73.5 122 67.9 123 64 124 61.3 125 59.6 130 58.3 135 58.7 136 59.2 137 60.2 138 62.5 139 65.9 140 71.2 141 73.9 142 68.1 143 63.9 144 61.1 145 59.5 146 58.9 147 58.6 148 58.4 149 58.3 150 58.2 So, I should put the antenna at 65', 110', 130' or 150'. Well, the 150 is out, the tower is only 140', but the general question still remains. When faced with this kind of numbers, do you normally have the climber start at 65' and work up in 3' increments logging the RSSI as you work to the top? Then put the antenna at the best signal, or what do you do? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Board Applications Available for Review
I won't be there, to many damn installs to little time and to think there was when I thought I would be thankful for this. :-) Oh well no party for me. But we are working on a solution. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Rick Harnish wrote: Peter, The WISPA Board Election is scheduled for June 15, 2007. Unfortunately, I will not be attending ISPCON this year as my daughter is graduating that Friday night. I will however be attending the Digital Cities Convention in Chicago Tuesday and Wednesday. I hate to miss ISPCON, but it just won't fit in my family schedule this time. I believe John Scrivner, Matt Larsen, Tom DeReggi and Mac Dearman will be there, I'm not sure about any others. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Board Applications Available for Review 11 great candidates. Just a quick thank you to the Board members for bringing WISPA along this far. Lots of forward thinking from the candidates. When's the vote? How many candidates will be at ISPCON? Rick Harnish wrote: The election for the WISPA Board is coming up in a few weeks. We have 11 applicants for 7 Board positions. These applications can be reviewed at http://nominations.wispa.org http://nominations.wispa.org/ . Election instructions will be made as the election approaches. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.
Sam, If you are a Christian you know there is no such thing as a living Saint, we only make them Saints after they are gone. O:-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Sam Tetherow wrote: Gee Marlon, this sounds a lot like the debate between you and Travis except you are on the other side ;) Quite honestly I don't blame Mark K at all. He has been trying to do here what everyone has been whining at him to do but no one seems to want to listen to it. He has been trying to rally the members of this list and WISPA to stand up to what he feels is an unjust ruling by the FCC. He has tried to oppose it on several levels, from a it's not fair to the little guy standpoint such as you are attacking here, to a it's not constitutional standpoint which gets him called a paranoid anti-government crackpot. For the most part he has been answered by personal attacks despite his taking the high road in trying to argue the issues. People have even gone so far as suggest a limit on posting and that he has ruined the usefulness of the list. Yet it seems to me that both Jack Unger and Matt Liotta do understand the unfair to the little guy standpoint and have posted about it without all the uproar that Mark gets. As for me, I'm taking a pragmatic approach. I have utilized the deal that WISPA worked with Kris T and I plan to comply to the best of my ability with any legal subpeona. If what I am able to do is not good enough I'll fire the customer, which I assume will get me in trouble, be fined $10K a day and go out of business. I honestly don't see any other alternative for someone of my resources and I am sure there are plenty of us out here in this boat. Marlon can make all the guarantees about the FAQ he wants but until the law reads in agreement with the FAQ it is just a handshake deal with people from the FBI and FCC who don't have power to set policy anyway. If we were talking about POP agreements I don't think anyone on this list would think it would be acceptable business practice to rely on a verbal agreement for access to a tower, yet this is what the FAQ really is. I'm not trying to put down what the CALEA team did or that the FAQ is useless, but when non-compliance becomes an issue it is not the FAQ that is going to stand in a court of law, it is the CALEA rules and regulations. I for one agree almost 100% with everything Mark has said, but then again I am a right wing extremist crackpot who believes in much the same things the founding fathers did. I look forward to having this debate over beers at ISPCON this spring with anyone who wants to have it. Yes, through the generousity of Peter R who provided me with a full conference pass, those going will have to put up with me ;) Sorry to see Mark K. go if he really does leave. He has had some very good ideas and I've looked forward to reading his opinion on many of these topics as I have come to value his insights. (Sorry this post was so long, there was plenty more I had to say but I hate long winded posts, thanks for reading this far...) Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Mark, not picking on you here. But. If you were to quit typing out reams of emails and worked on getting more customers you'd be able to deal with the problem better. OR, if you, like sometimes happens to us, are outgrowing your cashflow, go get a part time job to help fund your business. Many of us here have done side work. Heck, some of us still do! All of this has been a fun discussion but it's pointless beyond a certain point (probably days ago :-). You can whine about it all you want. Still gotta do it. Go get a job, fund your business and grow bigger and faster. Whining to us feels good but it fixes nothing. And, it's preaching to the choir. Most of us here AGREE with your point, however, the fact remains that we have to do certain things so that's where the effort is going. The time for changing minds is long past. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell. I hereby declare that I am NOT a facilities based provider, since I do not have any physical point on my network that can be tapped, mirrored, probed, or otherwise possible to intercept. I have no equivalent to a switched network. There you have it. We're putting my network your mouth is, folks. Continually, there is the statement that nobody will be requied to change their network
Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?
Well done Sam, move to the top of the class. Notice when you do it to someone else(England) it is ok, but do it to your own goverment it is breaking the law? Weren't Laws made to be broken :-\ You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Sam Tetherow wrote: You probably should have then. Last I checked treason was just that, which is what the founding fathers did when they declared their independance from England over unjust taxation (a law) which they refused to pay (ignored/disobeyed it). Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless J. Vogel wrote: ... I wish now that I had paid more attention in History classes Which of the founding fathers said something to the effect that the proper response of the citizenry to an unjust law was to ignore/disobey it? John Vogel Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: Changing the laws happens MUCH quicker if a mass of people openly oppose it. Your country was founded on that very principle. Yes it does (sometimes). Open opposition to a law and advocating criminal action are not the same thing. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?
When I had to get my citizenship I had to pass a language test, so I remember that it is eh, eh. 8-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The proper phrase is: yeah but, wait right here, eh? Always end with a question, eh? Lonnie -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.
Mark, It is people like you who made your country and people like you who defended your country. Always remember why you stand your ground. I stood my ground, had to leave the country for my family's safety (An loaded Uzi (mine) and a baby diaper bag (my new-born baby) together, finally got to me. I have returned and almost cried when I saw what has happened and the apathy of the people (how can a black man say life was better under the white man's oppression). But they are free - does free mean you can make a cross on a ballot paper, but have no food to feed your family. So all of you stand up, remember why the rest of the world use to admire your country and desire to live in your country where dreams do come true Remember, how late your country came into WWII. The general populace were convinced by a few that it was not their war. Then remember the anger after Pearl Harbour. Enough, I am rambling on a work morning. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I hereby declare that I am NOT a facilities based provider, since I do not have any physical point on my network that can be tapped, mirrored, probed, or otherwise possible to intercept. I have no equivalent to a switched network. There you have it. We're putting my network your mouth is, folks. Continually, there is the statement that nobody will be requied to change their network. We'll see how true to their word the government is. Trusting government's word is THE definition of ultimate stupidity, but I have no other choice. My prediction is that those statements are only words, and it will ultimately be proven a total lie. Now, I HAVE a suggestion for LE for how to get information, and I'll be happy to help them do it, but my particular network simply has NO possible mechanism. I have spent weeks trying to figure some possible way to meet the definition of compliance but it isn't possible. Of course, this is of no help to the poor people who now face serious financial issues. I regret that WISPA refuses to officially go to bat for them. For that matter, I regret wasting WISPA's time. You fine folks are now reading my last post to anything related to WISPA and on any WISPA list. When WISPA turned it's back on the small people, and started insisting that defending right and good was no longer allowed by a mature industry, defining mature as being absolutely blind to issues of right / wrong or even recognition that government is overreaching, it lost my support. When it became downright hostile to the interests of us as people, it set up itself as something I am hostile to as a matter of principle. As one of our forefathers said, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance. Not just during speeches, not just as talking points during elections, but in EVERY aspect of our lives, be it religious, business, political, social, and educational. When hostility to the notion of defending ourselves against overreaching government is displayed for purposes of expedience or convenience or ingratiating ourselves with those in power, then I cannot in good conscience support or be associated. Sorry. If principle isn't worth defending and upholding, it's not principle, just public stances. I will never regret upholding principle, but I will certainly regret NOT. I have very much enjoyed some of the conversations over the many moons, the awesome character and generosity post Katrina displayed by so many, and some of the great people I've conversed with and some of the most fascinating and thought provoking discussions over the many months I have been here. A few years ago, I would have probably kept my mouth shut and just gone along. But no more. I have had more than enough. I decided that I will live, speak, and associate according to my best conscience. It applies even to my business and how I treat my customers. My first taste of this was when I turned down a job because it required me to violate my conscience. I was unemployed and utterly broke. Some thought me insane, but just days later I had a real job, with pay dramatically exceeding the one I turned down...and I got to live and work the highest ideals. Seriously, folks... It's been a fascinating ride, and I have no hostility to any of you, though we disagree or agree or dont' even understand each other. I'll be easy enough to find elsewhere... Just look for the fanaticly devoted wireless and freedom advocate, and I'll be there. Later, folks. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 700 MHz decision at FCC
Thanks John, Around our way they know that they must have some sort of plan of action, but have nothing to show and cannot see that if they build the infrastructure, let me maintain it and supply internet to their tax payers and they can use it in an emergency. It boggles my mind. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: I think we can all appreciate that you are working hard to make public safety communications better and I applaud your efforts. If I lose opportunities for use of spectrum then I can think of no better place than to those who are working to make our country safer and to help us when disaster strikes our lives. I do get frustrated sometimes when I see the opportunity for building robust IP networks which could offer both public safety priority access during time of need and general purpose wireless broadband when public safety was not using the band. Allowing top priority to public safety with secondary access for the rest of us would be a simple matter I believe and would offer a very efficient use of this quality spectrum asset. If we all had access to this spectrum then I know in my heart I would do all I could to help improve public safety and would easily give up access to the band in times of need as a condition of use of the band. I wish that had been part of the plan but that does not mean I do not support the interests of public safety. It only means I would have liked to be part of the plan. Especially when so many of us WERE part of the plan in the post-Katrina efforts where we delivered when many others did not. Rich, is the plan for public safety to use IP based communications in this band? If not then why not? What is the plan? Will other interests like private or muni broadband be able to use the spectrum when public safety is quiet? If not then why not? Thanks, Scriv Rich Comroe wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 700 MHz decision at FCC Justin... I am aware of the problems revolving around the inability to talk to each other via voice radio. I would tend to agree that frequency coordination seems to be a terrible issue. The cited reasons for this was the 9-11 problems with coordination of emergency services, and NO hurricane problems. Nobody blew up the NO radio communications facilities. They just died because they lacked any means of self support when the power went out, and the phone and the agencies weren't talking to each other, and didn't seem to know who to talk to for what.That's just the outside perception, at least. Your outside perceptions are completely wrong. But as far as I can tell, this isn't about talking to each other, it's about building a digital network - IP based, perhaps? If you're not sure what the broadband network is for, how could you have already called the plan absurd? I'm still confused as to why we can't have fire department radios that can talk to the cops, ambulances, and whoever else. A lack of spectrum doesn't seem to be issue, rather it appears to be political boundaries between each department, and no mechanism to deal with widespread communications problems. Completely wrong. Cyren Call wanted 30 mhz to build a nationwide network.I'm just not cognizant of how this is going to somehow magically solve the problem with agencies having turf wars, and people either not following, or not haveing a rational plan for dealing with widespread disasters. I'm welcome to explanations of how things are going to improve with a national digital network that's subject to all the same issues as telco outages, broadband outages, etc, etc... ??? I wouldn't begin to know where to start to explain it to you. I don't believe you have any notion whatsoever of what the issues and challenges are of public safety communications that are being addressed. If you wanted to learn, you could start with the PSWAC report ... it's public and on-line. But what amazed me is how you conclude with no knowledge that the public safety broadband communications plans are absurd and can't possibly work. Why would you jump out and slam a field that you know nothing about? Yet you wonder where people get the notion from that you're anti-gov. Why not just say excuse me on that one and we'll move on. Rich - Original Message - From: Justin Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 700 MHz decision at FCC - Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 700 MHz decision at FCC I hate to say
Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition
So from the outside looking in, is my Association, WISPA, being paid a consultancy fee for assisting these various US goverment dept. in drawing up a plan of action to fight crime, etc.?? The reason for paying taxes is that so gov. has money to fund programs for the betterment of the people - period. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Heh... Is this an argument that taxes are a violation of the 5th Amendment? Especially the part that says ...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. ? That's where I derive my idea that we do not owe them any services or spending money to provide services or labor without compensation. Heck, CALEA provided funds to the telcos to compensate them... Why the heck are we special and not protected?From the arguments here, we have an unfillable debt owed merely for use of unlicensed spectrum... I disagree there's any debt or obligation whatsoever. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition you don't give them stuff for free Yes we do. Care to quantify this statement? Sure, the government has never paid me to give them taxes. George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition
And until all good American Citizens stand up and say stop the gravy train, we need to unload some baggage, you will deserve the goverment you get. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Mark, Do you pay ANY taxes??? If so, continue to the next questions. Otherwise, you have no reason to voice your opinion. Do you support the wars we are involved in currently? All of them, or just one or two of them? Do you support your lawmakers making more money than most of the country? Do you support the fact that your lawmakers should be able to decide their own pay raise every year? Do you support your lawmakers running this country into debt the way it has? If you answered 'NO' to any of the above, do you continue to pay your taxes as I asked with the first question? If you do continue to pay your taxes, even though you do not support what your government is doing with your money, why do you continue to pay them? I believe the same thought process applies to the FCC and what they are currently doing. If you 'support' your government by paying your taxes, why don't you support the FCC's efforts even thought you don't agree with them? Many times it isn't 'what you say', rather 'how you say it.' Keep shouting from the mountain top, but quietly comply. I'd hate for you to be MIA in the future. Life is not always fair, and right doesn't always win. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition Heh... Is this an argument that taxes are a violation of the 5th Amendment? Especially the part that says ...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. ? That's where I derive my idea that we do not owe them any services or spending money to provide services or labor without compensation. Heck, CALEA provided funds to the telcos to compensate them... Why the heck are we special and not protected?From the arguments here, we have an unfillable debt owed merely for use of unlicensed spectrum... I disagree there's any debt or obligation whatsoever. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition you don't give them stuff for free Yes we do. Care to quantify this statement? Sure, the government has never paid me to give them taxes. George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Board Applications
I already filled out mine, now when can I start campaigning, I have my lawn signs ready You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: I just filled mine out. If any of you have not applied for the board and you want to help us run this organization then please go to http://nominations.wispa.org and signup. We did not get enough applications to even fill the board last time. We want a full 7 member board this time guys and it would be nice to have enough people applying to have a little bit of campaigning and debate about what the direction will be for WISPA. We have enough strong potential candidates out there that we should be seeing some new blood running this time along with our existing board hopefully all running. There is no need to delay this application. It took me about 5 minutes to complete. Please go apply now if you have an interest in helping run WISPA. Thank you, John Scrivner President WISPA Rick Harnish wrote: The WISPA Board Election schedule has been set. All interested members need to go to http://nominations.wispa.org/ and fill out the application for the ballot. We encourage and expect to get a very good response to this year's call for directors. We have grown substantially in the last six months and WISPA is maturing into the lead association for the WISP community. Applications are due on May 1st, so don't procrastinate. Further information about the election process and the responsibilities of the board can be found in the bylaws at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=4 THE NOMINATION ELECTION PROCESS Here are the important dates for those of you following the election, running for a board position and who will be taking part in the election process. May 1st, 2007 - Applications due. May 14, 2007 - Qualified nominees compiled and submitted to the standing Board of Directors. Nominee information made available via the WISPA Web site for member review. June 15, 2007 - Election of new Board members. All members are eligible to run for a board position. Only Principal and Vendor members may vote for board positions. Only one vote per company is allowed. Instructions and credentials for voting will be sent to each member company via email prior to election. If you are a member company and do not receive instructions for voting or credentials it is your responsibility to request such information by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] or calling 618-244-6868 and requesting help getting your instructions and credentials for voting. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE BOARD The role of the board is to set policies that will ensure that it fulfills its legal and professional responsibilities to members. The board sets the strategic direction and leadership tone for the organization. The WISPA Board of Directors is comprised of seven (7). Each director shall serve for a term of one (1) year and until his or her successor is elected and qualified, or until such director's earlier death, resignation, incapacity to serve, or removal. All paid WISPA members are eligible for board positions, however the majority of the board will be WISPA Principal Members. Sincerely, Rick Harnish Secretary WISPA 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Warning Fradulent Company
Why did you change the name of the company? Because I have a company in Canada calling me also saying they are Senao Canada. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Basil Karjohn wrote: Forbes Mercy sysop at nwinfo.net writes: The company http://www.wlansolution.com/ and last week it was http://www.senao-us.com/ is a fraudulent company that is trying to rip off companies buying Wireless Equipment. They took our credit card and said they were going to drop ship our Rootenna's out of Pacific Wireless in three days. Pacific Wireless doesn't know who they are and never received an order but then they talked to their partner company who got the order but never was sent payment. Senao then said they had called here many times and never did then this weekend we were suddenly signed up for a calling card from http://nobelcom.com using our company number and it was traced back to Senao so we had to cancel the company card. The bank had already credited the amount stating this company has a long history of fraud. After we tried emailing the company again today they sent an answer to the wrong name saying it's now coming Tuesday. We don't know what to think because it's now two weeks late and before any of you try them you should know what you could be up against. We now ordered from someone else. It's a shame we can't just shoot these people. Like I was telling one of my employees today, there are so many ways to honestly make money that these people that spend all their energy defrauding people are such a waste of our oxygen. There you are warned, my friends. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. I am the owner of this company, and I came across this article, I have given Mr Forbes the oppertunity to contact our office, And we have not heard from him, He is in hiding, This information is incorrect and I encurage him to contact us by the email I sent him with our contact information. there will be legal action taken against him and his companies. Basil Karjohn Wireless solution -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Orlando
So that explains why you became a wisp, you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express (See TV Ad for the joke). ;-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Jeff Broadwick wrote: I stayed at the Holiday Inn Express just north of Downtown Disney last time. Nice hotel, and it was about $100/night. You can count me and Doug Hass in on the dinner Peter. Thanks! Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Orlando I'll take Sam's advice and pre-plan. Couple of notes: The ISPCON is at the Rosen Centre Hotel @ 9840 International Drive, Orlando, Florida 32819, not to be confused with the Rosen Plaza Hotel @ 9700 International Drive. Use Kayak.com to find your best room rate near here. There are two entertainment spots within 2 miles on International Drive: Pointe Orlando (http://www.pointeorlando.com/) and the Mercado. (There's a trolley available on International Drive, but traffic is so deep, walking can be faster). How about dinner on May 23 at Maggiano's Little Italy? After dinner there are many bars available in the Pointe Orlando complex. (On May 24 is ISP-CEO). Why attend the show? The exhibits and the education. Lots of case studies are being lined up for this one. Hope to see you there. RSVP for the dinner so I can save a private room. Regards, Peter Dawn DiPietro wrote: All, I have been working on that very issue for the last few weeks and will keep you all posted. There are a ton of choices of restaurants north of the conference hotel about 2 miles on International Drive but I have no prior experience with the area so some input from Peter would definitely be in order. A few places have complimentary shuttles. ;-) Suggestions from those who might be attending would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Sam Tetherow wrote: Now I really wish I could make it in May with Peter planning the extra curricular. Honestly, I would avoid the poker as it really does kill the conversation for the most part. An organized dinner as well as finding a decent bar that is within walking distance of most of the hotels, both announced prior to the conference would probably help to get more people together after hours. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900
I have one client TR 11F on a AP with a 180*H panel superpass sector. Cannot see each other thru the trees at a distance of 4km. By the way the noise level is -92. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha chris cooper wrote: Can anyone share experience with the Tranzeo 900 mhz product good or bad? One vendor has indicated it's a less than stellar product. Im wondering what actual field experience has been. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] testing - ignore
testing please ignore -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using DECT phones to avoid interference issues.
Yeah, a nice 4 line in and up to 8 cordless extensions would be nice. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Valenti wrote: On March 23, at 1:00 PM March 23, Rich Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a reason you haven't seen these products here. I began searching for why the last time a thread discussed the 1.9GHz UL band surfaced on this list. I doubt you'll ever see much product ever emerge for this band in the United States. There's a reason for this too ... DECT phones are definitely here in the US. I bought one at CompUSA last fall, and I'm sure I've seen then at Staples / Office Max / Best Buy. Maybe the manufacturers have started offering them, now that the per phone cost is reduced. --WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Climbing Harness
Maybe I should go to the pawnshop and get me six harnesses, one for everyday of the week, that way I won't wear them out and I can keep them for ten years at only a fraction of the cost. I still don't know what those brownish marks were on the last one I got from the pawnshop. Looks like dried-up blood, hey but the price was good. I can also get a real cheap deal on brain surgery if anybody needs it. Seriously two years in a harness is enough for me. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: fyi Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dennis Severns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brent Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower Climbing Harness Brent The exofit seems to be a very good tower harness, I do not use one myself, but other crew members with the tower company I work for use them. You should consider if you really need that much harness, Tower harnesses are normally designed to keep the worker tied off 100% of the time (when used with the proper fall protection lanyards, positioning devices and safety climbing devices). That is the reason for the six D-rings on the harness, The back D-ring is for attaching a fall protection lanyard, normally a double lanyard with large ladder hooks for clipping to the tower. The front chest D-ring is for use of a cable grab that is attached to a safety climb cable permanently mounted on the climbing ladder on most newer commercial towers (not needed on most ham radio towers) And the four side D-rings are for positioning either using a positioning lanyard or re-bar hooks. one good feature of the exofit is the built in bosun's seat that really helps if you have to spend a long time in the harness. I personally use an Elk River Tower harness that I found in a Pawn shop for less than $80.00 and like it a lot. It sells new for about the same as the DBI Sala Exofit. If you do not need all the features of a full tower harness you may be better off going with just a full body harness with side D-rings. also there are some very nice harnesses made for rescue and entertainment rigging that would be worth looking at. Some companies to look at on the web are of course DBI Sala, Elk River, Miller, MSA, Petzl work solutions, Yates, Rescue Technology and CMC rescue. Petzl and Yates make some very nice harnesses that are used by friends of mine in the arena rigging industry Good luck with whatever you decide to go with and stay safe on the steel. Dennis Severns kc0sul Professional.Tower Tech/Rigger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brent Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To All, I am in the market for a new tower climbing harness. I am interested in hearing from the group on their recommendations. My criteria are: 1. Safety 2. Comfort 3. Cost I am considering the ExoFitT Full Body Harnesses as it looks to be very well built and comfortable. So please respond directly and I will summarize for the group. 73 - Brent _ Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN Presents today. http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstaglineocid=T002MSN03A07001 ___ ___ TowerTalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ___ ___ TowerTalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using DECT phones to avoid interference issues.
How many lines in does this system have? I am dealing with an insurance company who is treating my wife and they want her to use a cordless headset (shoulder injury). Well we have the business line, the voip line and the homeline, and soon another business line. so we are now looking at a 4line system. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Dawn DiPietro wrote: All, I am sure some of you have already thought of this but I would suggest a great alternative to avoid interference with the most common frequencies used to deploy wireless networks would be to use DECT cordless phones in the house. They use the 1.9Ghz frequency and are relatively inexpensive. We use a DECT phone system here with all the features we could ever ask for and we got them for a song after the rebate. Just a thought. Regards, Dawn DiPietro -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?
The paid P2P is only for support on the software, it does not make it legit. go to the site and read what it says. No royalties are paid to anyone. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mark Nash wrote: I had a customer tell me yesterday that he uses his Gnutella program to do unlimited downloads from a paid site. I've used the Mikrotik routers (p2p queue set to 64k) to block this and other programs, so it's not working now for the customer. I want to allow for paid downloads, but not P2P filesharing. Have you come across this? Can it be dealt with? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Also report back what actually was done as I also have a walmart and a 900 system. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Dylan Oliver wrote: Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DBOSS online
Anybody having luck registering with the above company -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ot, linux for home users
And you do know Ubuntu is from The Republic of South Africa right??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: With all the uproar I'm reading about the computing disaster known as Vista I wonder about setting up Linux machines for folks. Especially those that just want to do email and surf the net. Probably (as mentioned) Ubuntu is a good distro. Fedora Core is another good one that is easy to use, and still offers good options for geeks (or geek wannabes). Another up and coming offering is PCLinuxOS. That one is at http://www.pclinuxos.com/news.php You can download a bootable ISO image of the pclinux and it will be your install disk as well. Very nice option, IMO. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wow! Motorola Whitespaces filing
Marlon, it's about business, Moto saw money to be made, as they have done with their canopy systems. How much for a razor ph. and how much for a canopy cpe?? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I don't agree with all of it. But the main issues are in agreement with what most wisps will want. Pushing for unlicensed vs. licensed is a big leap in our direction for Moto. laters, marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some unlicensed history....
Now I have to ask seeing that we are talking about rear-ends, isn't that paper for the printer a little tough on the behind, not a place to have a paper-cut you know. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: wispa wrote: So, who set the standard for toilet paper roll size? Actually Mark, as far as I can tell there is a standard for toilet paper rolls Same for paper towel rolls and even paper 8.5 x 11 Kind of makes it easy to use in printers from all manufacturers. You asked :) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...
And also at my age of over 50, who is going to employ me, only myself. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: Telcos cannot cover the sort of area we as a WISP can cover. Sure they can take the low hanging fruit, but I see it is similar to the gold rush days. The first guys cashed out big, and the well financed guys bought the best fields and made a mint. A LOT of gold was recovered by very ambitious and patient people who went over the grounds that were too barren or difficult for the big guys. We are those patient guys. We work harder and the rewards are not as large as the early days, but we are doing just fine. To put it in perspective, I know a lot of people who work harder and make less money. In that respect we are doing OK. I provide high speed Internet to people who cannot even get a phone line from the Telco. Sure they rode into town with ADSL and denied me faster than a T1 for 2 years while they converted about 2/3 of our dialup users to ADSL, but we have a higher potential for the people the Telco simply CANNOT service. We now have a 35 mbps fibre and the world looks bright. The silver lining to losing the dial up customers is that without the Telco coming in we would still have a T1. The other thing we all have going for us is that we can embrace new technology right away and not wait 10 years for it to become a commodity item. If you are willing to take advantage of new technology you will succeed. The market is there. You just have to go after it. Lonnie On 2/20/07, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Telcos. They're going to get what they want @ the FCC, which is to put the little guys out of business. It'll just be a matter of time and money, and we don't have much of either. Of course, wasn't it Marlon that said that that's what people said about us 5 yrs ago and here we are, still, today ? Look at it this way. If you're building to sell, you're building fast and furious right now, just to put yourself in the way of the next one that comes along. At some point you're going to amass enough users to make it more attractive to the Verizons and the SBC's of the world to just buy you out instead of marketing to all your customers, who are really happy campers and don't WANT to switch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wispa Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... And, who ISN'T building to sell right now ? The ones building to own / operate are going to get run out in the next 3 yrs. I'm curious about why you think this, Rick... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...
Yes, we need to be able to charge per bit, because we have alot content providers riding on our pipe selling things to our clients. I have noticed they are less and less talking to the ISP's whose bandwidth it is that they are using. We don't need another war on the list about this either, it is a reality. CTV in Canada is offering programming from their website You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha wispa wrote: On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:49:32 -0500, Rick Smith wrote Telcos. They're going to get what they want @ the FCC, which is to put the little guys out of business. It'll just be a matter of time and money, and we don't have much of either. I'd agree with you, if you take the first impression too. Problem is, I don't really know this. Nor do I think it strongly either. Several reasons: 1. We're far enough down the food chain that the telco / cableco wars are going to result in a lot of blood on the ground and it won't much be our blood. 2. Three years is really an eternity when it comes to how rapid change has been will be and lots of perspectives have been adjusting. Of course, wasn't it Marlon that said that that's what people said about us 5 yrs ago and here we are, still, today? Well, I said 2 years ago that I am willing and able to take on ANYONE and can find a way to get myself enough market share to survive against ANYONE...except the government. They're the only people we can't survive. Look at it this way. If you're building to sell, you're building fast and furious right now, just to put yourself in the way of the next one that comes along. At some point you're going to amass enough users to make it more attractive to the Verizons and the SBC's of the world to just buy you out instead of marketing to all your customers, who are really happy campers and don't WANT to switch. If I had 1000 customers today, and was asked to take a half million dollars and walk away... I don't believe I would. I know that seems a bit crazy, but at this point in my life, going to work for someone else... is about as attractive as eating cow pies. However, I think ALL of us should be diligently looking for ways to get beyond just that 'net connection. Video, tv, ( we're all aware of VOIP, of course ), and ... well, what else? We should be building our networks with the idea that there's a future beyond surfing. We can be competitive, especially if we team up in numbers. / Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
We block all P2P traffic (thanks to MT). I tell this to my customers upfront, it says so in our TOS in bold. We are running with a 3meg all you can eat fibre connection to the internet. The gov in Canada is trying to find a way to collect royalties from the ISP, who then will collect it from their clients, just like we collect their GST (general sales tax) and PST (provincial sales tax). Right now not even I can download from P2P and that is way it is going to stay, we don't even allow bit-torrent. Most times these things are used in an illegal context. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: The way I make them understand is that I tell them that I have hundreds of businesses (call them by name) that use less than 3gigs of data transfer a month. I also tell them that it is relatively impossible for them to even get close to 2 gigs of transfer by sending emails, general surfing, goggling...etc without hitting the P2P stuff downloading movies music. We do limit p2p on this network as well as limit residential threads onto the internet. We have always shaped the P2P on the network as a whole, but only in the last 2 months have we limited the connections. I must confess that it brought the bandwidth utilization down by 7mbps. That is a TRAMATIC difference! Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 1:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing Yes, but how do you explain what 5G/month is to the average sub?? They worry because they don't see this with the 'big boys' that advertize don't sevre their area. Do you find it takes alot more selling/education for each sub? On 2/17/07, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tell my residential subs that we don't care if they have a hundred PCs. We don't have a cap on bandwidth that is available, but we do tell them that with each subscription is included 5gigs of data transfer per month. We sale bandwidth for a living and it is metered just like electricity and water. Help yourself to all you want, but it is not a free for all or a buffet where you can eat all you want for the low low price of $8.99. I realize I will probably get a scalding rebuke over my 5gigs, but I don't have copper in the ground or FTTH to allow a Hogs feast on my bandwidth. I run a very successful WIRELESS ISP and the BH pipes and APs are all limited in the amount of data they can carry. That is not my fault, but it is my problem and that is how I deal with it! I never have a complaint and I sell a fantastic service. Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing We just tell them that the fact that they have more computers will inevitably increase the expected bandwidth usage. We're flexible on it. Essentially, if we have a customer that is clearly a business setup, we charge more. If it is an ultra-geek setup, we'll charge it. If it's a mom pop shop that just so happens to go over the threshold, we don't worry about it. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:45 AM Subject: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing I noticed that many WISPs have plans based on how many customer computers are hooked up to the customer's service. How does that work? Your installer counts computers initially, but then what? I have several power users with 5-10 computers and would like to move them to another plan, but need to understand how others do it. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: NON U.S. and Canada WISPs? was RE: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules ...
If we want WISPA to be the IEEE of the world, then all this FCC (US) stuff must be taken off the general list. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Patrick Leary wrote: Sam, you are right. During this whole thread I have been reflexive about assuming U.S. and I did assume you discussing it from a U.S. standpoint. I was wrong to assume that and I apologize. To all non-U.S. (well, this really does include Canada since the domains share so much in common from a UL standpoint), this must indeed be mind numbing. What would be VERY interesting would be for the non-North American WISPs to tell us their opinions about compliance relative to their regions. I have assumptions there too, but MUCH less knowledge and experience so the better part of valor is shut up and listen. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about beingsticker conscious or not?? You know Patrick, I for the most part have respect for you and your opinion, but when it comes to this issue you are so blinded by it you don't even stop to think about your reply. I stated it that way because I have absolutely no idea if rabbtux rabbtux is in the US or not. It is a gmail account so it could be anywhere world wide. They stated that they were looking for something that would work with an MT/SR5 combination so I replied that if the sticker is not important (which it probably isn't since they are use an MT/SR5 as the AP) they could use a RB112 and CM9 with good result. I added on the fact that Tranzeo makes eqiupment that will meet their specifications and is FCC approved so that they (and others) know that there is certified equipment that meet their criteria. I will echo Mark's (?) comment from somewhere in the fact that in the certified realm there isn't much that comes close to the flexibility and power of either StarOS or MT. The problem with the Premium CPE is that it attaches to a Premium PROPRIETARY AP. The power of StarOS and MT is in the fact that the user is not stuck buying everything from a single manufacturer. If PCEngines EOLs a model of wrap board there is always gateworks or MT. If StarOS adds a new advanced routing protocol MT users can switch with only the change of an AP and gain the full advantage and in some cases they doesn't even have to change AP hardware. If Smartbridges equipment goes to crap you can change to Senao, if Senao EOLs a CPE you can switch to Tranzeo. In the Premium world if Trango decides to EOL a line of equipment or manufacturing quality tanks you are stuck with: 1. buy refurb/used equipment 2. hang dual APs to handle new growth 3. swap equipment around in your network so that vendor/product A is on the east side of your coverage area... 4. Replace CPEs with new line of product There is a LOT more to the certified debate than the fact that Motorola, Trango and Alvarion have finally gotten CPE price down to $200. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Patrick Leary wrote: Sticker conscious? So this is what we've become as an industry? Following the very clear laws, which were once again just reiterated to us after another in a long chain of WISP visits, or not has now been reduced to simply being sticker conscious or not sticker conscious? Why not go further and call yourself Illegal and proud or just I don't give a ? Let's not have any more gee, I can't afford to be legal! That's not an argument that is credible today, with the range from legal cheap to premium CPE running from about $170 to sub-$300 -- that's cheap. My God, 5.4 is going to be a massive mess. OET will have to install a special phone line just to handle the incoming DoD complaint calls. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] cost effective reliable 5.8G cpe suggestions? RB112+CM9+Rootenna if you are not sticker conscious. If you are sticker conscious I use the Tranzeo TR5a-24/20 with MT/CM9 setups and they work great. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless rabbtux rabbtux wrote: Not to stir the fcc sticker debate, but what gear is out there today that is compatable with a MT/SR5 access point? Looking for lower cost CPEs for 1-5 mile deployments. Thanks -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] CANADA LIST
Thanks Rick, I have subscribed, suggestion though, create a US list also and then all of your FCC and Calea problems can be aired there and we can use the wisp for general private discussion. I would suggest that US Wisps should air the views on the above issues in private and the General list should only see WISPA's official stance and no discussion allowed. Become a member if you have something to say or otherwise shut up. If you can give me the list of the duties that a moderator has to know I will see if I can run the Canadian list. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Rick Harnish wrote: There is now a [EMAIL PROTECTED] private mailing listserv. I have designed this list to serve Canadian WISPs only. Membership to this list is moderated but postings are not. If a member of this list wants to become the moderator at some point, they should contact me. The signup for the list is located at http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/canada. English and French are both acceptable languages on this list. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Canadian Wisps
Please contact me offlist to see if we can have our own chapter under the WISPA Umbrella -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] A modest proposal
Ok some one buy this guy a drink, well said, exactly what we need. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mark Koskenmaki wrote: In all this conversation... the big guys wanting stiff enforcement to protect them from the death by a thousand cuts as small guys innovate by making their own equipment, and the arguments over the government's enforcement ability or will, sort of miss the point. We need regulations that make sense for this industry. kWe need Vivato-proof regulatory rules, so that money can't buy anyone an advantage in the ability to deploy technology by lawyering their way into certification, what is an obvious fraud to the system. Device certification, as opposed to system. It makes absolutely NO sense to certify a box with a 24 db panel, but object if someone needs to use a 21 db grid due to space or wind loading needs. Or vice versa. DEVICE certification let's there be 1000 innovators and developers figure out how to do do things better, and not incur huge costs for every tiny step along the way. So, if we use certified 20 dbm radio device, certified 16 db sector, then we have a 36 dbm system, do we not? This would do what we ALL want done, to know that what we buy is really what we get. This provides a solid basis and precedent for innovation and compliance in tv whitespace, etc. So you want to produce a radio that works at 4.9 ghz? Great. Certify it's behavior and let integrators use it however they wish. Why must the FCC care if the box it is in varies from deployment to deployment? This provides a great future framework for rapid innovation in wireless, be it unlicensed, low cost license, or normal licensed. It reduces the cost of compliance dramatically... and will have the effect of making enforcement workable and compliance both easy and cost effective without stifling innovation, or limiting it to the unimaginative like Motorola and Trango. The current regulatory structure encourages non-compliance... And the obvious lack of enforcement is tacit admission of the both the wrongness of the structure...and it's obvious problems. We SHOULD encourage both a framework that leads to compliance AND at the same time makes it no longer an obstruction to competition and cost-effective innovation. We need MORE integrators and builders, not less. We need to let ANYONE find creative ways to make a better mouse trap, not restrict to the biggest builders who then nail us with big dollars. This meets everyone's legitmate goals. It encourages outside the US manufacturers who want to build 100,000 radios to spread the certification costs among 100,000 units. Not 25 integrators each certifying the same radio with a different pigtail and antenna. WE need certified antennas that have patterns that are known good, so we don't deploy with bad patterns and ugly leakages. It provides a discipline for manufacturers. It lets a maker like Advanced Antennas or PacWireless focus on producing and marketing to the WISP community without having to try to get the same antenna certified 20, 40, 100 times just on different transmitters or even just different enclosures or connectors. Or a company like Ubiquiti have a legitemate place in the public marketplace to WISP's and not just a small handful of big dollar integrators. We need MORE suppliers, not less. More choices, not less. More options, not fewer, more innovation and minds creating, not less. THAT is how we as an industry can beat the dollars of the big guys. More minds, more thought, more creativity, more imagination. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Alvarion Breeze Access
Hi, Does the above equipment have some form of Spectrum Analyzer built in??? Reason more than a year of happy co-location, our Tranzeo equipment seem to be interfered with. Before I approached the other guys I wanted some more info, because maybe they don't even know that there is interference. Alas I only have a 2.4 spectrum analyzer, but Tranzeo 5.8's seem to show interference. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces
Live by example, gee does that I mean I cannot have that beer now (it is still morning here) :-) Serious, I have no ant. pointing over the biggest town in our county, to much noise. Local grocery store chain in the summer time powers up their wireless cash register for the outside garden dept. Nothing wrong with using two omnis to make the connection is there You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Tom DeReggi wrote: What bothers me the most is the perception of many residential consumers. I can;t count how many sales leads I'm getting now, where the prospect is calling asking to buy service that they can just connect to without an installtion. And when I say its over $19 and has an Install fee, they immediately say, Oh, I'll just go back to using one of the unsecured access points, or Harry Homeowner HotSpots in the community. And they actually can. Maybe a large nu,mber of these are their neighrbor with a 100ms Linksys, but I'm guessing more and more are installing that Omni with AMP, because as a novice, it sounds like what they are supposed to do, without understanding the impact. I think whats important to realize is that it does little good to complain about things we can;t control, but it does a lot of good to change the things that we can control. Live by example. (Thats sometimes hard to do, all things concidered). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tim Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces Hey Gang, After reading this thread for a few hours, I told myself I would shut up and just go away, but I must say, after pacing around the house for awhile and reviewing all of the things that I know in my mind?, I must say something?(Not that anyone gives a rats behind?). Look, what Patrick has posted to this list(As much as I hate to say it, and not because it's Patrick, its because of the actual subject?) is TRUE!. If You are looking to find some truth to his statements?, just wander over to DSL Reports WISP forum( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wisp ) and review some of the posts that have been made there over the years?. At least every other day or so, someone posts a question about how far they can hook up a client using a 1 watt amp with a 15.5dBi omni. When I first started in this business, if the salesperson at Ecomm, Winncomm etc. didn't know You?, and You asked for a 1 watt amp?, they wouldn't sell it?, or at least You had to answer a LOT of questions as to what You were going to use it for?. Today, all someone has to do is go to ebay, or call any of the popular vendors and in most cases?, it is on a UPS truck in 24hrs headed for Your address. I am NOT blaming any vendor for this mess any more than I am blaming the FCC or our industry as a police force, it just needs to be said that it IS heading in the wrong direction quickly(I think Patrick's mention of the slippery slope is accurate?). To add to the mess is a list of consultants that have popped up as of late?. In 2000, if You typed in WISP as a search word?, You got almost NO hits. Today, when You repeat this, the result is CRAZY! ( Results 1 - 10 of about 3,430,000 for WISP-From Google!) . The current trend in the WISP business is headed right towards the same debacle as the CB radio craze of the 70's? (I guess I am showing my age, LOL!). That problem ended because the spectrum was so wasted that You couldn't even talk to someone down the street, and cell phone and other communications technologies replaced the medium. While I do not know anyone in a high position in the FCC at the time, I am almost positive that more than one FCC meeting had people with their arms in the air going, OMG!, What are we going to do??. IMHO.ahh, You know what?, scratch my opinion, lets just say that in my experience, I know where this entire deal is headed unless something major happens?, it will be a wasteland that is sooo bad, You won't even have to put Your coffee in the microwave to heat it up, just open the protective steel front doors on Your house and set it outside for a few seconds and it is ready!( OK, a little overboard, but I think You all get my point?). I have been in this business since 2000. When I started lighting up PoP's in 2001, a site survey yielded nothing, nada, zip zilch zero as far as other AP's or competitors 802.11b AP's. Now, at those same PoP's, I can find on average at least 8 to 10 active AP's. I know all of You have seen this?. While some are just home user AP's, they are there non the less!. Heck, the other day an AP showed up with a -58!!!. I traced it down to a home user that had a 13.5dBi omni on his/her roof. While I
Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants
Hi John, Just a thought, go and dig up all the horror stories about the back hoe operators that dig up lines and truck drivers that run over poles. And send that to them. I am lucky the fibre that I use belongs to the utility and my NOC is at their Water tower that they need to monitor, so I have redundancy built in. I can't say the same for the hospital half a block away. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: As I have stated before, the health care providers in this area have it in their minds (and their policy manuals) that wireless of any kind will not be suitable for their needs, period. It has nothing to do with technical reality. It has to do with perception and corporate policy. Basically health care interests here are not just saying no, they are saying hell no. It is a hard sell for me at this point and the only vendor who has supplied me with any backup is one I do not even buy from, Bridgewave. They sent me technical DOCs, testimonials, etc. from health care interests. I passed it along to the health care providers in this area and you could hear crickets, right before the next hell no. This is frustrating to say the least. If Alvarion or anyone else wants to help me I am sure I would take the help. It is in all your best interests since I am not the only wireless provider effected by this black-balling of our industry by health care interests in my region. Scriv Peter R. wrote: Certainly, licensed wireless links and managed firewall delivered by your team would be cheaper to deliver; faster to deploy; and just as reliable as fiber? Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. John Scrivner wrote: I am afraid they will just build fiber business plans and not give wireless a second thought. Why should they consider wireless if they can get fiber for virtually free? Like I said...Gr. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] This USA Thing
PLEASE NOTE VERY CAREFULLY, THAT THIS IS NOT AN ANTI-USA STATEMENT. For the past few months, I have noticed and commented that this organization has become very much USA orientated. I remember when we use to get posts from the UK, South America, New Zealand, Australia and Africa. We don't get that anymore or hardly any. I do remember when this organization was put together that it was suppose to be international. But alas that all seems to have gone by the way. It is so sad, because as a Canadian I now have to wade thru FFC comments and alot of US orientated communications. If this where this organization is going, then I believe We must terminate our membership. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm
Try an HP IPAQ 6515 (I have this one, with and sd wifi card) and 6900 (Has built-in wifi). With licensed Opera I can program my radios. Check email and so on. Also can use skype. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: The palms are so danged expensive. And I tend to break phones often when out in the field. If it were me, I'd FIRST look around to see if anyone in the area has better coverage and/or prices. We just moved away from Cingular and the problems are around the same but coverage is better and the costs are lower. AND the support of a local company has been wonderful! Walk into the store and the same people are there month after month, they know my name etc. Next, I'd probably do blackberrys for the average guy. Those that need network access to your gear could use the palms. I'm looking for a palm or Q phone as soon as I can afford one. Typing even short emails on a standard phone sucks. And it would be cool to do some network stuff via a cell phone from time to time. I'm not always in range of my own towers. At least not with a laptop. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm My cell plan for my office is due next month. Currently, we only have voice plans. However, I am considering adding data for a few of my employees to be able to use email. I have the option of Blackberry and Palm phones. For those of you that have compares each, which solution would you recommend and why. Thanks, Cliff LeBoeuf www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna do thehonorswithout permission-- WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!
I don't receive any email from there at all myself also. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Rick Harnish wrote: I'll get you set up as well. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA\ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] I'm gonna do thehonorswithout permission-- WELCOMEMartyRoadstar! As an FYI, I paid up 1/2 year membership several weeks ago and haven't heard anything at all back from WISPA... Kelly Shaw Pure INTERNET Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honorswithout permission-- WELCOMEMartyRoadstar! I think Scriv normally sets them up when they are paid. It is a manual but very quick process. I added two today. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honors without permission-- WELCOMEMartyRoadstar! Thanks Rick, your the man! Hey, does every paid member automatically get signed up to the membes list or is a manual thing? George Rick Harnish wrote: It's taken care of George. Thanks Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ __ NOD32 1.1800 (20061012) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DNS Timeout supposedly
Sorry for the cross-post I am getting this report from dns reports.com: quote A timeout occurred getting the NS records from your nameservers! None of your nameservers responded fast enough. They are probably down or unreachable. I can't continue since your nameservers aren't responding. If you have a Watchguard Firebox, it's due to a bug in their DNS Proxy, which must be disabled (31 Jul 2006 UPDATE: several years after being informed of this, there is a rumor that there is a fix that allows the Watchguard DNS proxy to work). unquote So with that result it appears you wouldn't be able to reach our mailserver, but as can be seen these lists do. The dns servers and other servers run thru our Mikrotik Gateway like this: incoming on ether-b sent over to ether-d where our servers are. ether-a is the internet gateway for our wireless clients and ether-c goes out to our wireless network. Now when I use dnscheck, I don't have the same problem. Reason for all this is that we seem to having problems with our mailserver's anti-spam. I think we are running into alot of broken, ill-configured mailservers of which ours was one. How to fix, we run a Merak server that uses Spamassassin and avast. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ignore testing again
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[WISPA] ignore -testing mail server
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[WISPA] Ignore -testing return to
The land of the rest of the world out there, beyond the county borders. -- You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Venice Project would break many users' ISP conditions
I wonder if MT will be able to block it. Because right now I don't allow p2p or bit torrent on my network, and it is successfully blocked by MT. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Dawn DiPietro wrote: Venice Project would break many users' ISP conditions OUT-LAW News, 03/01/2007 Internet television system The Venice Project could break users' monthly internet bandwith limits in hours, according to the team behind it. It downloads 320 megabytes (MB) per hour from users' computers, meaning that users could reach their monthly download limits in hours and that it could be unusable for bandwidth-capped users. The Venice Project is the new system being developed by Janus Friis and Niklas Zennström, the Scandinavian entrepreneurs behind the revolutionary services Kazaa and Skype. It is currently being used by 6,000 beta testers and is due to be launched next year. The data transfer rate is revealed in the documentation sent to beta testers and the instructions make it very clear what the bandwidth requirements are so that users are not caught out. Under a banner saying 'Important notice for users with limits on their internet usage', the document says: The Venice Project is a streaming video application, and so uses a relatively high amount of bandwidth per hour. One hour of viewing is 320MB downloaded and 105 Megabytes uploaded, which means that it will exhaust a 1 Gigabyte cap in 10 hours. Also, the application continues to run in the background after you close the main window. For this reason, if you pay for your bandwidth usage per megabyte or have your usage capped by your ISP, you should be careful to always exit the Venice Project client completely when you are finished watching it, says the document Many ISPs offer broadband connections which are unlimited to use by time, but have limits on the amount of data that can be transferred over the connection each month. Though limits are 'advisory' and not strict, users who regularly far exceed the limits break the terms of their deals. BT's most basic broadband package BT Total Broadband Package 1, for example, has a 2GB monthly 'usage guideline'. This would be reached after 20 hours of viewing. The software is also likely to transfer data even when not being used. The Venice system is going to run on a peer-to-peer (P2P) network, which means that users host and send the programmes to other users in an automated system. OUT-LAW has seen screenshots from the system and talked to one of the testers of it, who reports very favourably on its use. This is going to be the one. I've used some of the other software out there and it's fine, but my dad could use this, they've just got it right, he said. It looks great, you fire it up and in two minutes you're live, you're watching television. The source said that claims being made for the system being near high definition in terms of picture quality are wide of the mark. It's not high definition. It's the same as normal television, he said. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ignore - testing server anti-spam
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Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
NO, MY TOY. You can't have it. :o I am thinking of a summer Hotspot at our Marina and beach this year. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Carl A jeptha wrote: Backhaul CPE for some of our lighter microcells. My main Gateway is an MT, my Router board (with a valid License) is packed away waiting for me to decide something great to do with it. Come on Butch tell me something :-) Ummmyou can send it to me. :-) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?
lets look at the VHF system, which radio would you buy?? Or is it which proprietary system would you deploy? Or is it where can I lease/rent/buy crystals to put in my radio? Black and white, I am the customer beholden unto to my supplier, long may they live. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Tom DeReggi wrote: Carl, You bring up a point that I do not disagree, other than it is jsut the reality of our industry. There is no adequate standard today. Basic WiFi on its own just has to many flaws in design to be adequate High ARPU Business class scale. What you talk about is the Promise of WiMax. I don't fight that dream, it just doesn't exist yet in the US. I'd rather pick a proprietary manufacturer, than not have a solution at all, or one that doesn't work adequately. The winners in this business are who guesses best at which proprietary vendor will continue to be the best choice. Its hard to predict, everyday what was right could change. I know what you want, and ultimately its wha tI want, but its a dream, not reality. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Carl A jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS? So am I correct in assuming that being held ransom by a manufacturer is the right business model. Or If I buy Alvarion now and they go belly-up, I can just switch to Trango and when they go Belly-up I can go to Motorola and so on and so on. Or am I missing the POINT TOTALLY. I should not use an internationally recognized standard, I should use Proprietary equipment. RANT I spent two years of my life with WAVERIDER, where the [EMAIL PROTECTED]^ing he!! are they now I spent two years of my life with CIRRONET, where are they now /RANT Tell me again it is a sound business model to be held Hostage by one manufacturer If the international standard is wrong, why can't we get the manufacturers to come up with a common standard??? Or is it that when held hostage they don't have to supply proper customer service Or is it their business plan to capture the market and after gaining the monopoly, then what? ALL I WANT IS TO BE ABLE TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE. IF I HAVE TWENTY DIFFERENT RADIOS ON MY NETWORK AND THEY ALL TALK TOGETHER, TIME WILL TELL ME WHICH ONE IS THE BETTER ONE. It does not take an engineer to figure out that one, and once I have been bitten by a bad product it will me a long time to go back to it. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Tom DeReggi wrote: Marty, And I probably should be selling, not debating :-( But, I can't agree more with your post. Except When was the last time a Trango EMPLOYEE asked for your feedback? Trango is one of the best manufacturers out there, from the perspective of asking their customers, what they want and need, and responding with change. They've even reimbursed WISPs for travel expenses to come offer their advice on how they can improve their product. Trango shines in that area, and their success at keeping in touch with their buyers, is a large part of their success to date, and I have nothing but respect for Trango's efforts in that area. Credit should be given where credit is due. Trango's current limitation, is they don't have a greater than 10mbps PtMP product. But it wasn't really ever needed until recently, nor ever really asked for, because it wasn't needed. Alvarion was the one that took 5 years to reduce their price, something we ALL always asked for from day one. Don't get me wrong, I wish Trango would replace the dish with a good solid panel, I haven't won that battle yet. Today, for me, Alvarion has the upper hand. They have the right product, at the right price, at the right time, which was a very bold and smart move strategically to make. Mutually for the WISP's benefit and Alvarions. Gain the market share, while they have the unique product to accomplish it. But, its not clear that Alvarion will have that same advantage 6 months from now, when Trango launches their next generation product, which I can tell you is an exciting product. And Trango is listening, as that product will have high quality Dual Polarity Panel antennas. This is a leap frog industry. Trango's bigger mistake is that Trango gave up backwards compatibility, in their vision for new products. That means they can't leverage their customer's existing huge investment in Trango installed base to their advantage, to encourage WISPs to wait for their new products from Trango. So Trango will have to compete head to head on feature set alone, like a start
Re: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?
When we made those decisions in 1999 we did not find Alvarion or Motorola. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Patrick Leary wrote: Respectfully Carl and while I generally agree on use of standards (in a mature market), when the market is developing and one still wants in, then it is up to the operator to pick a horse that is stable. The stability of your initial choice was there for any to see and study as a public company. On your second choice, you decided to go with a new entrant to the market whose primary business was something else. So you made your own risk calculations. Had you opted for more stability (such as a Motorola or Alvarion), you'd not have been confronted with that problem. I agree that this is an important consideration and I would assert that too few WISPs place any value on that. I can tell you that the health and/or the commitment of a supplier is a TOP consideration of large operators. ...Not going that route would be unthinkable. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A jeptha Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS? So am I correct in assuming that being held ransom by a manufacturer is the right business model. Or If I buy Alvarion now and they go belly-up, I can just switch to Trango and when they go Belly-up I can go to Motorola and so on and so on. Or am I missing the POINT TOTALLY. I should not use an internationally recognized standard, I should use Proprietary equipment. RANT I spent two years of my life with WAVERIDER, where the [EMAIL PROTECTED]^ing he!! are they now I spent two years of my life with CIRRONET, where are they now /RANT Tell me again it is a sound business model to be held Hostage by one manufacturer If the international standard is wrong, why can't we get the manufacturers to come up with a common standard??? Or is it that when held hostage they don't have to supply proper customer service Or is it their business plan to capture the market and after gaining the monopoly, then what? ALL I WANT IS TO BE ABLE TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE. IF I HAVE TWENTY DIFFERENT RADIOS ON MY NETWORK AND THEY ALL TALK TOGETHER, TIME WILL TELL ME WHICH ONE IS THE BETTER ONE. It does not take an engineer to figure out that one, and once I have been bitten by a bad product it will me a long time to go back to it. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Tom DeReggi wrote: Marty, And I probably should be selling, not debating :-( But, I can't agree more with your post. Except When was the last time a Trango EMPLOYEE asked for your feedback? Trango is one of the best manufacturers out there, from the perspective of asking their customers, what they want and need, and responding with change. They've even reimbursed WISPs for travel expenses to come offer their advice on how they can improve their product. Trango shines in that area, and their success at keeping in touch with their buyers, is a large part of their success to date, and I have nothing but respect for Trango's efforts in that area. Credit should be given where credit is due. Trango's current limitation, is they don't have a greater than 10mbps PtMP product. But it wasn't really ever needed until recently, nor ever really asked for, because it wasn't needed. Alvarion was the one that took 5 years to reduce their price, something we ALL always asked for from day one. Don't get me wrong, I wish Trango would replace the dish with a good solid panel, I haven't won that battle yet. Today, for me, Alvarion has the upper hand. They have the right product, at the right price, at the right time, which was a very bold and smart move strategically to make. Mutually for the WISP's benefit and Alvarions. Gain the market share, while they have the unique product to accomplish it. But, its not clear that Alvarion will have that same advantage 6 months from now, when Trango launches their next generation product, which I can tell you is an exciting product. And Trango is listening, as that product will have high quality Dual Polarity Panel antennas. This is a leap frog industry. Trango's bigger mistake is that Trango gave up backwards compatibility, in their vision for new products. That means they can't leverage their customer's existing huge investment in Trango installed base to their advantage, to encourage WISPs to wait for their new products from Trango. So Trango will have to compete head to head
Re: [WISPA] speaking of CPE
Use the Linksys wrt 54g as an Router/CPE, also reflash with dd-wrt firmware including the models with vxworks. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha W.D.McKinney wrote: I am wondering if anyone has these deployed: http://www.airlink101.com/products/ar504.html We don't prefer Linksys at all. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
I have used a tr5a against an MT AP and no problems. I also use Tranzeo 6000 for AP's and really don't see them slowing down. They also act as Backhaul AP's (at the same time) in PTMP mode for other microcell backhauls. Granted we don't have amount of clients that you have. We actually use the CPQ as a Backhaul CPE for some of our lighter microcells. My main Gateway is an MT, my Router board (with a valid License) is packed away waiting for me to decide something great to do with it. Come on Butch tell me something :-) This why I like to follow a standard, Tranzeo knows (in no uncertain terms) that I will replace them, just like I did the Smartbridges, CB3's and Demarc's, but I still have Hawking HWBA11's out their (Damn customers can't see anything wring with them). This is my company and I run it my way not their way. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Ryan Spott wrote: N White wrote, On 12/28/2006 11:30 PM: Nick. Is. A. God. (and has EXCELLENT reading comprehension!) Correction. It's late, I'm tired, and have had too much wine. I meant that the TRCPQ is Atheros based, not TRCPE. This is from a Tranzeo list: The CPE90 is Marvell. The 900, the CPQ, the 6000, the 49, and the 5a are all Atheros based. The CPE200, the 1000, 2000, 3000 and 4000 were Prism based. The CPE80 was Atmel. -Damian Wallace I was looking for that Damian Wallace post! Also, if you decide to go the StarOS/Mikrotik way, make sure you upgrade all of your Tranzeo gear to the latest firmwares. All of my TRCPQ are up to date.. I have a script that does it for me. :) (pointing and clicking on each CPE/Q gets REALLY tiresome after a while!) Thanks! ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] For Sale - 5/8 ldf
Is this where I would post this? -- You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] IPAQ Problem
We have an IPAQ 6515 with an Spectec SDIO 821 (802.11B/G). It cannot get an DHCP address and if we set an address we cannot access the internet thru it even though it is reported connected. Any thoughts please. -- You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?
John, Ask them to supply you with the HIPPA compliance list point-by-point. Then you show how you can comply when it is your responsibility and also point out where they are responsible for security. Then summarise this and they will see that they are more responsible for this HIPPA thing than you or any other carrier is. Because as has been pointed out before, if the data is encrypted when it leaves the terminal, the rest doesn't really matter. Point out also that this way they are free to change their providers anytime they want to, because they are in control of their security not an outsider. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: It does not matter if the responsibility is the network admin or not when it comes down to purchase time. It comes down to perception. Right now perception of the hospital corporate officers is that wireless = not secure. I have been told by people who order circuits that they are not allowed to buy from me or any wireless operator due to security issues. I believe it will require some type of HIPAA seal of approval from some source or another before we can start selling to these guys. This could be bad for us. ALL of the hospitals are going to buying new circuits soon and right now I am out of the running. Scriv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John To the best of my knowledge there are no HIPPA compliant solutions that are actually approved We have installed a ton of links for hospitals and other medical facilities an this issur comes up from time to time. We pretty much tell the customer that we are just a carrier and we encrypt oir data just like verizon does on a T1. And we all know how good that is. HIPPA compliance should beUp to the network administrator. Not the carrier IMHO. Ask someone how your network is not compliant. Its like Y2K all over again Good luck Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:16:51 To:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass? Wireless broadband security issues have now officially led to my business being put into a bad light due to perceived lack of security. I am a member of a regional broadband planning group that is working with health care and other industry sectors to help deliver broadband options to all areas that need it. Rural Health centers and hospitals are all over the region and most need access to broadband which is highly secure. I need to know what others have done to bring HIPAA compliance assurance to network administrators and hospital personnel so that your solutions are chosen and used for health care connectivity. Currently my services are not being considered do to the perception of a lack of HIPAA security compliance. I need to get on top of this right now and welcome your thoughts and ideas. I would prefer to hear from those of you who have some actual knowledge of delivering HIPAA compliant connections or those who provide equipment which has been documented to meet HIPAA compliance. Thank you, John Scrivner No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.17/553 - Release Date: 11/27/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Solar power
Then give full details of what you used. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote: Yep. We just did. Just a single 532 with dual SR2 cards. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Solar power Anyone who's put in solar at a POP care to hit me offlist? I need to light one up and possibly may have to use solar. Thanks! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 1st Solar project
Just setup my first solar power system. Having a problem though. we have three solar panels delivering 75 watts. We have two deep cycle batteries each with 1000 cranking amps. All this powers two tranzeos - tr5a-24f and a 6000. We cannot seem to maintain power on this setup. Located in Ontario Canada. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1st Solar project
here are links to the equipment used. 2 x http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672503PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443291400bmUID=1162934699310assortment=primaryfromSearch=true 1 x http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672995PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443275943bmUID=1162934699437assortment=primaryfromSearch=true 1 x http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672503PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443276257bmUID=1162934699609assortment=primaryfromSearch=true 2 x http://www.exide.com/products/marine_rv/nautilus_starting.html I'm sorry but I cannot find the amp hours for these batteries. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Carl, I'll be glad to help, but I need more information. What controller do you have?What amp/hour capacity batteries do you have? The CCA (cranking amps) is not at all relative to the amp/hour capacity. The marine batteries are around 100 to 115 amp/hour at most. It sounds like nowhere near enough panels or batteries. Mark +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wisp part-15 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] 1st Solar project Just setup my first solar power system. Having a problem though. we have three solar panels delivering 75 watts. We have two deep cycle batteries each with 1000 cranking amps. All this powers two tranzeos - tr5a-24f and a 6000. We cannot seem to maintain power on this setup. Located in Ontario Canada. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 60GHz radio trial
If you want a trip up to Canada, you sure are welcome, That is if you can put up with me for a day or so O:-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Harold Bledsoe wrote: Hi guys, Disclaimer: This is not a sales call, as I am not selling this product. :-) Now, to business. I need someone to do a 3-month trial with a pair of 60GHz, 100Mbps full-duplex radios (PtP). I need the link to be 500m. This is a 3-month trial and you are required to give feedback (and return the units or buy them) at the end of the trial. The place I had planned to deploy this unit in for evaluation did not work out so now I am looking for a new one. Anyone? Anyone? Oh I guess I should mention that you have to put up with me for a day or so for the installation. :-P -Hal __ Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com http://www.deliberant.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Symbol Spectrum Software
It is ok, I got it from someone else. Thanks again. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Alan Cain wrote: Carl A Jeptha wrote: Looking for the Symbol tech Spectrum analyzer Software. contact me off-list. I have it here somewhere. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Open Proxy
Hi, Is there a way to test for an open proxy. I really need to find this open proxy that is being reported with our gateway which is a MT Box. The Proxies on it are disabled. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Open Proxy
Here is one of the answers from Internic.ca *Warning: Open Proxy Connection Detected* You are accessing our site through an open proxy connection. For security reasons, we do not allow any visitors to log into our site through an open proxy without first validating the identity of the account holder. If you have a valid reason for using an open proxy or if you think we have blocked your address in error, please call or email our Customer Service team. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Jeremy Davis wrote: Carl A Jeptha wrote: Hi, Is there a way to test for an open proxy. I really need to find this open proxy that is being reported with our gateway which is a MT Box. The Proxies on it are disabled. What type of proxy is being detected? Jeremy -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Ok still struggling to setup this ocr thing under windows. seem to be going rapidly nowhere. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: I am impressed that you knew what my last name says :) I always have to explain it to people. We use two rbl's currently: relays.ordb.org and list.dsbl.org and spamhaus for now They seem to do an alright job. On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok so you will live another day without getting beaten up :-P Thank you will investigate, have website up,. what DNSRBL list is recommended (I have read about Spamhaus) Thank you again Mr Niemandtsverdriet (Translation - No ones Sorrow) Nice Last name. :-D Yes I do speak another language - Afrikaans You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: If you have spamassassin setup and running you can just add the rules shown on the spamassassin wiki. You need to have imagemagick and gocr but they are really easy to install. See the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sign this weekend
And You must be representing bell south :-P Interrupting me from doing my Rural WISP Business. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Peter R. wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/219332597/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Thanks for the lists names. When you hear me talk English you will hear my other accent (Afrikaans), but when I speak Afrikaans they can hear that I actually speak English, reason being that I am fully bilingual and traces from the one language to the other. Afrikaans is derived from Dutch. :-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: I am impressed that you knew what my last name says :) I always have to explain it to people. We use two rbl's currently: relays.ordb.org and list.dsbl.org and spamhaus for now They seem to do an alright job. On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok so you will live another day without getting beaten up :-P Thank you will investigate, have website up,. what DNSRBL list is recommended (I have read about Spamhaus) Thank you again Mr Niemandtsverdriet (Translation - No ones Sorrow) Nice Last name. :-D Yes I do speak another language - Afrikaans You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: If you have spamassassin setup and running you can just add the rules shown on the spamassassin wiki. You need to have imagemagick and gocr but they are really easy to install. See the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Fwd: Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS
Gentlemen and Ladies of USA, You have a problem, that if you do not defend Net Neutrality no Nuclear device and no matter how big will protect you or I from what can and will happen. Believe it or not right now the rest of the world's democracy rest's in your hands. When Democracy is owned by a Corporation and not by the people (notice the word owned) we will have trouble. I remember, years ago when a US citizen wanted to know who he to pay for the internet, because he believed that someone had to own it. I gave up after 5mins on dialup (14400 modem) to try and tell him that no one controlled the internet. You US WISP's will have to stop the assault, because I know that in Canada they will only rubber stamp the FCC. I feel sorry for you but the fight is now with you, because it is all quiet in the rest of the world, but I can guarantee you that if you loose the rest will follow suit, and quote the USA did it, it must be the right thing to do (meanwhile, everyone curses the Americans, until it will line their pockets, then the Americans are doing the right thing). Mr Upton should be led to the wall with a blindfold and shot for treason. End of Rant. Time for another beer before I fall asleep. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: Hello Alex. I am sorry you have had trouble posting to our list. Please send the error you receive when you try to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will get it fixed. I am copying the list with your information. Sincerely, John Scrivner Alex Huppenthal wrote: John, Since I my posts to the general list never make it, perhaps you'd like to post this. An important event. Hope all is well with you. Cheers, -Alex Begin forwarded message: *From: *Timothy Karr, FreePress.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *October 18, 2006 6:22:57 PM PDT *To: *Alex Huppenthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: **Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS* *Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SavetheInternet.com banner http://www.savetheinternt.com/ Dear Alex, Bill Moyers http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog Tonight at 9: Watch The Net at Risk http://action.freepress.net/ct/K7xJ_ZM1wPKJ/ On the Web: Join the Debate at PBS.org http://action.freepress.net/ct/K7xJ_ZM1wPKJ/ Tune in to PBS tonight to see the SavetheInternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/Coalition featured in The Net at Risk, a documentary produced by award-winning journalist Bill Moyers. Then join other SavetheInternet.com members in an online Web discussion at PBS.org. Bill Moyers' show airs at 9 p.m. in most cities (check local listings http://action.freepress.net/ct/KpxJ_ZM1wPKD/). Immediately following the East Coast broadcast, PBS.org will host a live Internet debate between Free Press Policy Director Ben Scott and phone industry flack Mike McCurry. You can be a part of this online debate. Here's how to join in: *When:* Oct. 18, 10:30 pm Eastern / 7:30 pm Pacific *Where: *http://www.pbs.org/moyers You'll be asked to log in to participate in the online discussion. With your help, we hope to light up the PBS Web site with our campaign to save Net Neutrality. It's important to have you there. In the six months since the SavetheInternet.com Coalition was launched, millions of Americans have joined the campaign, spoken out for Internet freedom, and put Congress and the phone companies on notice. Tonight's program could make millions more aware of this issue. They need to hear the real voices of people like you instead of industry mouthpieces. Help us use the Internet to save it from corporate efforts to stifle online innovation, free speech and competition. Please join us tonight! Timothy Karr Campaign Director Free Press and SavetheInternet.com www.savetheinternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/ 1. For the latest information on the campaign visit www.SavetheInternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/ 2. Don't miss Bill Moyers' new essay on Net Neutrality: Against an Imperial Internet http://action.freepress.net/ct/K1xJ_ZM1wPKF/ Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this. Tell-a-friend! http://action.freepress.net/freepress/join-forward.html?domain=freepressr=g7xJ_ZM1-Bw-; If you received this message from a friend, you can sign up for Free Press http://action.freepress.net/freepress/join.html?r=g7xJ_ZM1-Bw-E;. This message was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Visit your subscription management page http://action.freepress.net/freepress/smp.tcl?nkey=8wsg67i4hjj8bk3; to modify your email communication preferences or update your personal profile. To stop receiving E-Activist Network, click
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
ok so you will live another day without getting beaten up :-P Thank you will investigate, have website up,. what DNSRBL list is recommended (I have read about Spamhaus) Thank you again Mr Niemandtsverdriet (Translation - No ones Sorrow) Nice Last name. :-D Yes I do speak another language - Afrikaans You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: If you have spamassassin setup and running you can just add the rules shown on the spamassassin wiki. You need to have imagemagick and gocr but they are really easy to install. See the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Anybody been able to block the stockmarket spam??? My Merak with Spamassassin is loosing the battle. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Superpass
He will ship to you Directly, email/phone him. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Anyone know where I can buy SuperPass antennas near the mid-west?? Looking for a 60deg 900MHz H-pol. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer side monitoring software
We have Pipteen that has been customized for us. Put in numbers with names and exe. for certain things and they can call in and do certain things under the tech support instructions. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Gino A. Villarini wrote: Hey guys, We are looking for a simple, user friendly monitoring software to install in our customers computer and would tell them if the internet is up, down , if default gateway is up or down , ect simple stuff that would help out tech support people troubleshoot over the phone. Sometimes is painfull and time consuming to get a customer to the c:/ prompt and ping stuff Once I saw a software like thet feom AOL ... Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I am having the problems with 6000 5a Tranzeos lately they seem to lockup or now the signal levels have dropped drastically at two locations. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Jason Hensley wrote: I've had great luck too in the past. RMA lead time is way too long though for me - 2-3 weeks to get one repaired and sent back. I do use the routing features, which could be what is causing the lockups. Not sure. Either way, I've been disappointed lately and need to get more reliable gear. I've had great luck with Tranzeo to this point - I'm not sure what has happened, but something has and as a fairly small provider, I can't afford truck rolls due to faulty gear. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/471 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Symbol Spectrum Software
Looking for the Symbol tech Spectrum analyzer Software. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 MHz Omni-Directional Antennas PRICE!?
Also check with http://www.superpass.com You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Well, I'm deploying SR9's with MikroTik next week. Can't beat the RB112's for price. Put them in the Pac-wireless NEMA boxes for clients with yagis and hoping to see the 900 MHz Rootennas soon We will be using RB532A's for our AP's. I'm planning on using Netstream with polling for our setup. Also considering cavity filters on the AP's. After testing, we are going H-pol only on 900 MHz. Better range and lower noise floor... 900 MHz H-pol omnis are $800+!! Waiting on a friend to send me some 900 MHz panels for testing Soon, I hope Looking at a trick to use two 60deg Hpol panels together, but have to wait for them to get here Joshua M. Andrews wrote: Hello all, Im planning on purchasing some test equipment designed around the SR9 900 MHz equipment. Im debating between MikroTik and WRAP boards at the moment and have found an outdoor enclosure that should work fine. However, the big question is what antennas to use for both the AP and the CPE. I found some sites that offer 900 MHz Omnis but the prices are CRAZY! Into the $300 range! As for a client side it seems to be a little more realistic of around $20 up to the hundreds of dollars depending on the type needed. Am I crazy or am I destined to pay about $300 for an Omni-directional antenna!? Also, if anybody has any EXACT configurations they would like to recommend for my first SR9 AP and CPE setup please feel free to post the details of you recommended configurations! Thanks! Sincerely, Joshua M. Andrews www.QCSitter.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application
That is what we need right now. But we need even more to go forward and we need to know we can have it. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha David E. Smith wrote: Carl A Jeptha wrote: We ourselves, right now need 32. And no, we are not multi-homed. 32, as in a total of 32 IP addresses? If that's the case, they shouldn't need to involve ARIN at all. They should just SWIP that little teensy allocation out of their own space to you. (ARIN usually doesn't need to be involved unless you're working with at least a /22 allocation, which is 1024 IPs.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application
We, upstream and ourselves, want the capability to use whoever we want (multihomed) for our connection. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Matt Liotta wrote: David E. Smith wrote: (ARIN usually doesn't need to be involved unless you're working with at least a /22 allocation, which is 1024 IPs.) ARIN could be involved if you have a swiped /24 or bigger and want to multi-home. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application
We ourselves, right now need 32. And no, we are not multi-homed. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha David E. Smith wrote: Carl A Jeptha wrote: My upstream is trying to obtain a set of ip numbers to use between ourselves, but ARIN is rejecting the application because they feel that we do not require or have use for our own ip numbers. If you're trying to get the IPs for your network, you should probably apply directly to ARIN, unless you're a very small network indeed. How much IP space are you using now? And are you single-homed or multihomed? David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ARIN IP Application
My upstream is trying to obtain a set of ip numbers to use between ourselves, but ARIN is rejecting the application because they feel that we do not require or have use for our own ip numbers. Any tips would be appreciated in assisting to achieve this. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] e911 anyone?
Mac, Will you be operating in Canada Also?? May be a little cold for you :-P You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Matt, West Corporation bought Intrado for 465 million dollars not including expenses. I think that makes Intrado pretty sound and West Corporation is up 24% to $460 million in revenues in their second quarter reports 2006. Who are they? Hell who really cares? They had 460 million CASH - - someone knows them well and does a lot of business with them! You can try to trash anything, but that does not change the truth of what is going on at Intrado, West Communications or their partners. You can schpill a bunch of crap, but that is not going to change the fact that you are not legal in what you are doing if you aren't providing e911 for your VoIP clients. Now, as far as we are concerned - for any and all that want to sell their VoIP solution (or ours) and not worry about having the FCC breathe down their necks - - I am offering a solution that will allow that at a price that will not send them to the bank or wonder how they are going to manage to pay next months bills due to an outrageous expense where there is no ROI. I am doing my best to make it easier on the WISP while you are trying to make them believe that you have the only solution or our solution has serious flaws. I have no doubt that you are a knowledgeable person, but dude - you are not the God of VoIP! Can you ever speak well of what someone else is doing or what the industry has happening? Is it always a terrible thing if you aren't in the middle of it? As far as providing e911 where there is NO 911 services - - well that says it all. That would be like building a 5 star hotel in the ghetto. Nomadic e911 is one method of handling that until the actual 911 build out is accomplished. It does make you legal if you are doing business in a place like that. I don't have a clue as to where that would be, but it is better than a bed pan and two drum sticks. It is a honest effort to accomplish what is not yet possible. I didn't say it was the best - - I said it would get you by to make you legal. I am also unsure what MANUAL administrative processes you are referring too and if you would care to hit me off list with that I will do my darndest to understand. I think the crowd has answered the rest of your email as far as what has kept them out of the VoIP business :-) I will not debate this on list any further as far as the technical goes, but I will say if you need a fine e911 provider and you are a WISPA member - - hit me off list for your discounted price, full service - FCC Certified letter guaranteeing our compliance and I will be happy to reply. Sho nuff, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] e911 anyone? Mac Dearman wrote: I am at a loss here as they are the Nations largest and even providing for certain Telcos! They have written the book on e911 as well as hold a many patents on the technology. They are the nations largest in terms of e911 management. However, before last year they didn't have a single e911 trunk. They tried to leverage their situation and provide VoIP e911 until they found themselves out of money from the buildout expense. They were bought by an unheard of company back in January. See http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/01/intrado-gets-bought.html. Yes - there is. First, where there are no actual 911 addresses or the County/Parish does not have their end set up there is the long/Lat approach that is being used. The right PSAP is still attained and the right address is given. Wrong, the FCC requires the VoIP operator to support e911 regardless of whether it is available. The VoIP operator is not allowed to market services in areas where e911 isn't supported. Well, we are doing much better than that :-) The biggest advantage with us is that once the e911 call is placed it does not travel over SIP trunks or the internet when it hits our NOC as we have dedicated PRIs to handle that traffic and we dump it to that route. This way we are not relying on Level3 in Dallas J but a straight shot to Intrado. Having PRIs doesn't help you with manual administrative processes. Your company is not special; every telecom company has to deal with these issues. You just don't know that you will have to. The e911 price is exactly what's holding the majority back! The majority of the ISPs who want to do VoIP can't handle a $5000.00 set up fee and then a minimum of $300.00 per month starting out with 3 VoIP phone clients! When we talk with other WISPs about VoIP they aren't so much worried about the price. They are worried about their network
Re: [WISPA] WHY?
wrong, every person has the right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty. To all, As a police officer, i need a wiretap on a phone line, because i believe the person using that ph. line is doing something illegal. When i get that permission from the judicial authority i may start tracking what is happening on that ph. line. Before that, what ever is happening on that ph. line is not legally available to me. So why would the ph company have records of that ph line ready for me, before the court gave me permission to tap that ph. line? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Why? Because it will severely burden smaller ISP's that lack the network infrastructure to do this. Is WISPA lobbying against this? It will be nearly impossible for most of us in the wireless business to do this, without major restructuring, or a huge expense that we can't afford. Mark, I can tell that you are a fellow Oregonian! Thats my guess why... Just to bust our nuts and give us all a push over the edge. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DirecTV, EchoStar reduce bidding in wireless sale
Bunch of Commie bums, What happened to the great capitalist dream?? :-P John as a Rotarian you know, If you help them with the right tools and no handouts the community will succeed. And that is what the FCC must be doing. Competition is good, keep the playing field level and may the best man win. Here's a question, All the incumbents bought alot of spectrum now the other day, they are all now buying more spectrum. Where does the money come from, whose money are they spending And then they squat on the spectrum. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: The answer is base station licenses for those who need / want spectrum with interference protection and higher power. With this model you could apply for a base station license (in other words 1 tower location worth of spectrum in one geographic area), pay an annual fee and have exclusive use of a small bit of spectrum to allow you to offer services without fear of interference and with higher power which would give you enough coverage area to serve 100% of the potential customers around your base station. This is the answer. Scriv Rich Comroe wrote: Amen. Designing government policy for the purpose of generating the highest income from spectrum licensing is completely contrary to policy designed to serve the public. This had a major role in the US cellular industry losing the worldwide lead (which didn't do any American any good). Why can't our government understand this? European 3G spectrum auctions nearly broke the back of BT (forced it into bankruptcy and spliting the company such that the telecom half didn't sink with the cellular half ... or at least that's how I understood it). The FCC should be managing spectrum for the benefit of the American people, not managing spectrum to maximize government revenue. But that's just me. Rich - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DirecTV, EchoStar reduce bidding in wireless sale Finally, a big company that's got the brains to tell the government to stick their high price spectrum tax where the sun don't shine! marlon - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: [WISPA] DirecTV, EchoStar reduce bidding in wireless sale DirecTV, EchoStar reduce bidding in wireless sale http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060816/tc_nm/telecoms_wireless_satellite_dc_3 Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 efax 530-323-7025 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] now known as bash Johnny party
To be able to bash him, please supply 24 beer for his headache that will there from the bashing. No beer, no Bashing. Johnny remember to share the beer ;-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Thanks JohnnyO. Matt Larsen (conveniently located halfway between Louisiana and Canada, between the two extremes :^) [EMAIL PROTECTED] JohnnyO wrote: I appologize if I offended any canadians with my canadian comment. Also appologize if I offended anyone by accusing someone of stealing a thread for self-promotion of their own product lines not associated with the thread title itself. Some things just get me excited. Bash me offlist if needed. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 [THREAD CLOSED] Better late than never! This Thread is closed. Start a new thread if you want to discuss either platforms further and keep it civil. Offline discussions with the various parties of this thread have taken place and concerns have been voiced. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree with everything you said here. :-) Scriv Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Calm down kids!! First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing some self-control. Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make a request to change the name of the thread. FWIW, Lonnie did NOT hijack this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up their experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded. That is entirely appropriate. There would not be a response like George's if you didn't have a history of pissing people off on this and other lists. What George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs that won't subscribe to a list of you are on it. I'm not going to go into details here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you want a breakdown. Also it is not George's responsibility to manage posts and subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list management. Second, to George. I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on the lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond to JohnnyO offlist. I don't think this was a situation of bigotry, just a slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of people who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each other. Not a big deal at all. Finally, to everyone... I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the WISPA lists, and I hope we continue to build that sense of community. I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see some legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged between the members. Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most useful one to me by FAR, and that is not something that happened overnight. It has taken some time and unfortunately we do still have to try to put people in their place when things get a little too out of hand, but overall I think that we have done a very good job of maintaining the balance between total control and anarchy. Peace out, Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] JohnnyO wrote: George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is, then you fall under the same category. I guess it's ok for a vendor to hijack threads to promote his own stuff ? The thread was about the Routerboard 532As and Mikrotik. This is my opinion and I will post my opinions. I guess you think it's ok for you to practice DICTATORSHIP ? I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! Maybe you should put more time into managing the posts and subject lines of the threads. I do have an opinion and am a paying member. Which vendors are you talking about ? Which WISPs ? Don't throw out bullcrap unless you're willing to provide the proof. I banter/kid/joke with the Canadians and have for several years and will continue to do so. I have slammed vendors on Part-15s lists and also Judd's list who have proved to me to be substandard in customer service or product quality, but I can't recall the last time I slammed a vendor on WISPA. JohnnyO -Original
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900's and SR9's
5 days from BC to Ontario You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Ryan Spott wrote: Speaking of waiting for Tranzeo, If you do order from Tranzeo direct, then how long does it take to get product? How big are your orders? ryan Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: Whoa, bad assumption Rick. We would never be waiting for anything from Tranzeo. I was saying we are awaiting our first batch of SR9 for evaluation and our own network, but that many of our customers have already tested SR9's with our software, and they report excellent results with both the WAR board and the new V3 code for WRAP boards. The Tranzeo should talk with an SR9 since they both use an Atheros base. The only trouble will be the driver and that I can't speak to. Lonnie On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie, To clarify please, I assume your saying that you are awaiting your first shipment of Tranzeo 900's for your own usebut others have already deployed WAR Boards V3 or WRAPs with the Tranzeo 900 solution. Is that correct? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900's and SR9's We are awaiting our own shipment but customers have reported good results with WAR boards and the new V3 for x86 WRAP boards. Lonnie On 8/3/06, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, has anyone successfully deployed the Tranzeo 900 solution with SR9's yet? Mikrotik, Ikarus or Star-OS? I'm looking for real results so I can start making decisions. Thanks, Rick Harnish -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Chicago tower
He's a farmboy, the implication of more than one tall Structure in the same place might be a little tough for him. ;-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Rick Harnish wrote: Marlon, I think we need a leeettle bit more information. There are a lot of people and a lot of towers in Chicago. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Chicago tower Anyone know who's this is? marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
