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My Dodge that's now a bucket truck... I towed a trailer with it to Klamath Falls and back... with the empty trailer, it was 13 mpg. Coming back, I had a 13,000 tractor on it. Truck and trailer total was 27,000 and I got 10.5 mpg, and even a 6% grade didn't get us down under 45mph. I never had to get lower than 4th gear (6 speed). You CAN get decent fuel economy, but it requires certain ... qualities to your rig. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen
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dodge is expecting to have a Cummins powered half ton in 2010 or 2011 model year. It's expected to be able to pull off near 30 mpg. Ford and Toyota dropped their plans for light duty diesel pickups, Chrysler has not. I would not even think of owning a Mahindra. They're known around the world as a not very funny joke compared to well built stuff. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Sooner or later, someone will do a 1/2 ton diesel electric hybrid truck , and it should be able to do at least 40 mpg if they do it right. It looks like these guys might be the ones to do it. http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/mahindra-appalachian-diesel-pickup-arrives-in-us-next-year-dies/ John Mark Nash wrote: I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm
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Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits
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Right-the primary reason a hybrid saves gas is by recovering *some* otherwise wasted braking energy. But you'd get better mileage by not breaking in the first place, which you don't hopefully do a lot of on the highway. Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat
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That description is not hybrid. Its called KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) and is a technique used to recharge the batteries in a hybrid car without using the gas engine to recharge the battery. Most hybrid cars have a battery driven engine and a gas powered engine. when driving it will primary use the battery engine but if the batteries starts to get run down the gas engine starts up to propel the car and recharge the battery in newer hybrid you have the KERS to help boost the recharge by recovering energy when breaking which is why a hybrid car can get so very good city traffic mileage since obviously you have to break and stop. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:17:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Right-the primary reason a hybrid saves gas is by recovering *some* otherwise wasted braking energy. But you'd get better mileage by not breaking in the first place, which you don't hopefully do a lot of on the highway. Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq
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It was a combined 40 mpg. You're correct in that hybrids don't have any better highway mpg than regular engines. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:54 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o
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Hmm that's an interesting footnote the green peace doesn't leave. Not better at all on the highway? On 2/12/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It was a combined 40 mpg. You're correct in that hybrids don't have any better highway mpg than regular engines. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:54 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
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Well, I wouldn't say not better at all. They are somewhat better, but the bigger benefit is in the city where you brake alot, have stop and go traffic, etc. City mileage will be better than highway. I get 35ish highway, 42ish city in my first generation (2001) prius. Randy Josh Luthman wrote: Hmm that's an interesting footnote the green peace doesn't leave. Not better at all on the highway? On 2/12/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It was a combined 40 mpg. You're correct in that hybrids don't have any better highway mpg than regular engines. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:54 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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Depends on your definition of highway, but not due to the hybrid itself. Better aerodynamics and powertrain engineering may make it better. The hybrid technology runs out of juice before what I consider highway would have elapsed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Hmm that's an interesting footnote the green peace doesn't leave. Not better at all on the highway? On 2/12/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It was a combined 40 mpg. You're correct in that hybrids don't have any better highway mpg than regular engines. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:54 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com
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I use my 07 Prius for sales and lite service in the flat lands of California, 60 in town, 42 hwy, avg over 35000 miles 46.2 Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Depends on your definition of highway, but not due to the hybrid itself. Better aerodynamics and powertrain engineering may make it better. The hybrid technology runs out of juice before what I consider highway would have elapsed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Hmm that's an interesting footnote the green peace doesn't leave. Not better at all on the highway? On 2/12/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It was a combined 40 mpg. You're correct in that hybrids don't have any better highway mpg than regular engines. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:54 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46 e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Uti lity.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy _osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I
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Obviously a hybrid has a hybrid engine or it wouldn't be a hybrid. It can't kick the saved braking energy into a gas engine, hence the need for the second engine. As I understand it, a hybrid also saves because they are often designed to shut off the gas engine when coasting, slowing, stopped or idling (non hybrids *could* be designed that way too, if you trusted the engine to always start back up), and to provide an acceleration boost, allowing the gas engine to work in a more efficient range. A hybrid gains gas mileage at low speeds partly because it recovers braking energy, not because it has an electric engine per se. If you could recover braking energy and use it in a conventional car and shut off the engine when slowing, stopping, and idling, it'd have better gas mileage too when you drive slower due to reduce aero drag. The truth is, if you drove a hybrid for 400 miles at 30 MPH without braking and the same car with a conventional engine for 200 miles at 30 MPH without braking, you should end up with pretty much the same MPG. Starting a gas engine to charge a battery to run an electric engine loses energy every time an energy conversion is made (gas to mechanical to stored electrical back to mechanical). However, if you're accelerating a lot, the electric engine picks up a big advantage, especially if the driver is a lead foot, because that's what electrical engines are good at...going from stopped to 'fast' without a lot of waste. As far as I am aware, that is the primary reason to use *gas* to charge batteries to run an electric motor because otherwise it'd be *less* efficient, and IS less efficient in constant load driving (say highway driving in flat areas). On the other hand, at constant highway speeds, hybrid and conventional cars are essentially the same though hybrid cars are often designed with more attention to gas saving than conventional cars so they eke out a bit more for reasons that could have been applied to the conventional car (for example, possibly shutting off the engine when coasting down a slight hill). Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:44 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: That description is not hybrid. Its called KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) and is a technique used to recharge the batteries in a hybrid car without using the gas engine to recharge the battery. Most hybrid cars have a battery driven engine and a gas powered engine. when driving it will primary use the battery engine but if the batteries starts to get run down the gas engine starts up to propel the car and recharge the battery in newer hybrid you have the KERS to help boost the recharge by recovering energy when breaking which is why a hybrid car can get so very good city traffic mileage since obviously you have to break and stop. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:17:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Right-the primary reason a hybrid saves gas is by recovering *some* otherwise wasted braking energy. But you'd get better mileage by not breaking in the first place, which you don't hopefully do a lot of on the highway. Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D
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I think I'll stick with my American gas guzzlers. Is it still true that hybrids cost so much upfront you won't save money on gas? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.comwrote: Obviously a hybrid has a hybrid engine or it wouldn't be a hybrid. It can't kick the saved braking energy into a gas engine, hence the need for the second engine. As I understand it, a hybrid also saves because they are often designed to shut off the gas engine when coasting, slowing, stopped or idling (non hybrids *could* be designed that way too, if you trusted the engine to always start back up), and to provide an acceleration boost, allowing the gas engine to work in a more efficient range. A hybrid gains gas mileage at low speeds partly because it recovers braking energy, not because it has an electric engine per se. If you could recover braking energy and use it in a conventional car and shut off the engine when slowing, stopping, and idling, it'd have better gas mileage too when you drive slower due to reduce aero drag. The truth is, if you drove a hybrid for 400 miles at 30 MPH without braking and the same car with a conventional engine for 200 miles at 30 MPH without braking, you should end up with pretty much the same MPG. Starting a gas engine to charge a battery to run an electric engine loses energy every time an energy conversion is made (gas to mechanical to stored electrical back to mechanical). However, if you're accelerating a lot, the electric engine picks up a big advantage, especially if the driver is a lead foot, because that's what electrical engines are good at...going from stopped to 'fast' without a lot of waste. As far as I am aware, that is the primary reason to use *gas* to charge batteries to run an electric motor because otherwise it'd be *less* efficient, and IS less efficient in constant load driving (say highway driving in flat areas). On the other hand, at constant highway speeds, hybrid and conventional cars are essentially the same though hybrid cars are often designed with more attention to gas saving than conventional cars so they eke out a bit more for reasons that could have been applied to the conventional car (for example, possibly shutting off the engine when coasting down a slight hill). Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:44 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: That description is not hybrid. Its called KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) and is a technique used to recharge the batteries in a hybrid car without using the gas engine to recharge the battery. Most hybrid cars have a battery driven engine and a gas powered engine. when driving it will primary use the battery engine but if the batteries starts to get run down the gas engine starts up to propel the car and recharge the battery in newer hybrid you have the KERS to help boost the recharge by recovering energy when breaking which is why a hybrid car can get so very good city traffic mileage since obviously you have to break and stop. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:17:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Right-the primary reason a hybrid saves gas is by recovering *some* otherwise wasted braking energy. But you'd get better mileage by not breaking in the first place, which you don't hopefully do a lot of on the highway. Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I
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One other thing to consider: The gas engine in hybrids are often tuned down so they are just about gutless, but very lean on gas. On hot 115+ days here, the electric on my old Prius will shut off to keep the batteries from having problems. It's sometimes scary trying to pull out into an intersection in that condition. Randy Chuck Bartosch wrote: Obviously a hybrid has a hybrid engine or it wouldn't be a hybrid. It can't kick the saved braking energy into a gas engine, hence the need for the second engine. As I understand it, a hybrid also saves because they are often designed to shut off the gas engine when coasting, slowing, stopped or idling (non hybrids *could* be designed that way too, if you trusted the engine to always start back up), and to provide an acceleration boost, allowing the gas engine to work in a more efficient range. A hybrid gains gas mileage at low speeds partly because it recovers braking energy, not because it has an electric engine per se. If you could recover braking energy and use it in a conventional car and shut off the engine when slowing, stopping, and idling, it'd have better gas mileage too when you drive slower due to reduce aero drag. The truth is, if you drove a hybrid for 400 miles at 30 MPH without braking and the same car with a conventional engine for 200 miles at 30 MPH without braking, you should end up with pretty much the same MPG. Starting a gas engine to charge a battery to run an electric engine loses energy every time an energy conversion is made (gas to mechanical to stored electrical back to mechanical). However, if you're accelerating a lot, the electric engine picks up a big advantage, especially if the driver is a lead foot, because that's what electrical engines are good at...going from stopped to 'fast' without a lot of waste. As far as I am aware, that is the primary reason to use *gas* to charge batteries to run an electric motor because otherwise it'd be *less* efficient, and IS less efficient in constant load driving (say highway driving in flat areas). On the other hand, at constant highway speeds, hybrid and conventional cars are essentially the same though hybrid cars are often designed with more attention to gas saving than conventional cars so they eke out a bit more for reasons that could have been applied to the conventional car (for example, possibly shutting off the engine when coasting down a slight hill). Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:44 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: That description is not hybrid. Its called KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) and is a technique used to recharge the batteries in a hybrid car without using the gas engine to recharge the battery. Most hybrid cars have a battery driven engine and a gas powered engine. when driving it will primary use the battery engine but if the batteries starts to get run down the gas engine starts up to propel the car and recharge the battery in newer hybrid you have the KERS to help boost the recharge by recovering energy when breaking which is why a hybrid car can get so very good city traffic mileage since obviously you have to break and stop. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:17:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Right-the primary reason a hybrid saves gas is by recovering *some* otherwise wasted braking energy. But you'd get better mileage by not breaking in the first place, which you don't hopefully do a lot of on the highway. Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark
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I have a friend in Fairbanks, AK.. He bikes everywhere (@-40!)... He laughs at prius drivers because they all have the heat on all the time! How do you get heat? You run the engine.. Constantly! heh! ryan Randy Cosby wrote: One other thing to consider: The gas engine in hybrids are often tuned down so they are just about gutless, but very lean on gas. On hot 115+ days here, the electric on my old Prius will shut off to keep the batteries from having problems. It's sometimes scary trying to pull out into an intersection in that condition. Randy Chuck Bartosch wrote: Obviously a hybrid has a hybrid engine or it wouldn't be a hybrid. It can't kick the saved braking energy into a gas engine, hence the need for the second engine. As I understand it, a hybrid also saves because they are often designed to shut off the gas engine when coasting, slowing, stopped or idling (non hybrids *could* be designed that way too, if you trusted the engine to always start back up), and to provide an acceleration boost, allowing the gas engine to work in a more efficient range. A hybrid gains gas mileage at low speeds partly because it recovers braking energy, not because it has an electric engine per se. If you could recover braking energy and use it in a conventional car and shut off the engine when slowing, stopping, and idling, it'd have better gas mileage too when you drive slower due to reduce aero drag. The truth is, if you drove a hybrid for 400 miles at 30 MPH without braking and the same car with a conventional engine for 200 miles at 30 MPH without braking, you should end up with pretty much the same MPG. Starting a gas engine to charge a battery to run an electric engine loses energy every time an energy conversion is made (gas to mechanical to stored electrical back to mechanical). However, if you're accelerating a lot, the electric engine picks up a big advantage, especially if the driver is a lead foot, because that's what electrical engines are good at...going from stopped to 'fast' without a lot of waste. As far as I am aware, that is the primary reason to use *gas* to charge batteries to run an electric motor because otherwise it'd be *less* efficient, and IS less efficient in constant load driving (say highway driving in flat areas). On the other hand, at constant highway speeds, hybrid and conventional cars are essentially the same though hybrid cars are often designed with more attention to gas saving than conventional cars so they eke out a bit more for reasons that could have been applied to the conventional car (for example, possibly shutting off the engine when coasting down a slight hill). Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:44 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: That description is not hybrid. Its called KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) and is a technique used to recharge the batteries in a hybrid car without using the gas engine to recharge the battery. Most hybrid cars have a battery driven engine and a gas powered engine. when driving it will primary use the battery engine but if the batteries starts to get run down the gas engine starts up to propel the car and recharge the battery in newer hybrid you have the KERS to help boost the recharge by recovering energy when breaking which is why a hybrid car can get so very good city traffic mileage since obviously you have to break and stop. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:17:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Right-the primary reason a hybrid saves gas is by recovering *some* otherwise wasted braking energy. But you'd get better mileage by not breaking in the first place, which you don't hopefully do a lot of on the highway. Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15
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Until gas is about $4/gallon, yes. But, it depends if there's a subsidy on the car still, and which model you're getting. It's nearly impossible (for example) to recover the cost difference on a Toyota Highlander iirc. But the Highlander _does_ get better acceleration ;-). Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think I'll stick with my American gas guzzlers. Is it still true that hybrids cost so much upfront you won't save money on gas? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Obviously a hybrid has a hybrid engine or it wouldn't be a hybrid. It can't kick the saved braking energy into a gas engine, hence the need for the second engine. As I understand it, a hybrid also saves because they are often designed to shut off the gas engine when coasting, slowing, stopped or idling (non hybrids *could* be designed that way too, if you trusted the engine to always start back up), and to provide an acceleration boost, allowing the gas engine to work in a more efficient range. A hybrid gains gas mileage at low speeds partly because it recovers braking energy, not because it has an electric engine per se. If you could recover braking energy and use it in a conventional car and shut off the engine when slowing, stopping, and idling, it'd have better gas mileage too when you drive slower due to reduce aero drag. The truth is, if you drove a hybrid for 400 miles at 30 MPH without braking and the same car with a conventional engine for 200 miles at 30 MPH without braking, you should end up with pretty much the same MPG. Starting a gas engine to charge a battery to run an electric engine loses energy every time an energy conversion is made (gas to mechanical to stored electrical back to mechanical). However, if you're accelerating a lot, the electric engine picks up a big advantage, especially if the driver is a lead foot, because that's what electrical engines are good at...going from stopped to 'fast' without a lot of waste. As far as I am aware, that is the primary reason to use *gas* to charge batteries to run an electric motor because otherwise it'd be *less* efficient, and IS less efficient in constant load driving (say highway driving in flat areas). On the other hand, at constant highway speeds, hybrid and conventional cars are essentially the same though hybrid cars are often designed with more attention to gas saving than conventional cars so they eke out a bit more for reasons that could have been applied to the conventional car (for example, possibly shutting off the engine when coasting down a slight hill). Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:44 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: That description is not hybrid. Its called KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) and is a technique used to recharge the batteries in a hybrid car without using the gas engine to recharge the battery. Most hybrid cars have a battery driven engine and a gas powered engine. when driving it will primary use the battery engine but if the batteries starts to get run down the gas engine starts up to propel the car and recharge the battery in newer hybrid you have the KERS to help boost the recharge by recovering energy when breaking which is why a hybrid car can get so very good city traffic mileage since obviously you have to break and stop. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:17:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Right-the primary reason a hybrid saves gas is by recovering *some* otherwise wasted braking energy. But you'd get better mileage by not breaking in the first place, which you don't hopefully do a lot of on the highway. Chuck On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Not on the highway it won't. grin That's the biggest reason I didn't even look at one. Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are often no better than any other rig. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash
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You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center had was getting over 40 mpg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq
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I thought it should go faster too. ;-) I don't know what year Travis's truck is, but a variant of one of these ought to help that 80 mph limitation. http://bankspower.com/products/show/43/3 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:16 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340
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Any faster than 80 mph and you get stopped, then you just lost way more time than you would have gained from speeding. Kevin Safelink Internet -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I thought it should go faster too. ;-) I don't know what year Travis's truck is, but a variant of one of these ought to help that 80 mph limitation. http://bankspower.com/products/show/43/3 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:16 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sp ort-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5f Accessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_ odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%25 7C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_tr ksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA
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I pass cops with laser (not radar) doing 80 mph when the speed limit is 65 mph. Many Interstates in other states are 75 mph. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: Any faster than 80 mph and you get stopped, then you just lost way more time than you would have gained from speeding. Kevin Safelink Internet -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I thought it should go faster too. ;-) I don't know what year Travis's truck is, but a variant of one of these ought to help that 80 mph limitation. http://bankspower.com/products/show/43/3 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:16 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sp ort-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5f Accessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_ odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%25 7C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_tr ksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States Texas goes as high as 80 mph. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:38 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I pass cops with laser (not radar) doing 80 mph when the speed limit is 65 mph. Many Interstates in other states are 75 mph. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: Any faster than 80 mph and you get stopped, then you just lost way more time than you would have gained from speeding. Kevin Safelink Internet -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I thought it should go faster too. ;-) I don't know what year Travis's truck is, but a variant of one of these ought to help that 80 mph limitation. http://bankspower.com/products/show/43/3 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:16 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sp ort-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5f Accessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_ odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%25 7C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_tr ksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig
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Sooner or later, someone will do a 1/2 ton diesel electric hybrid truck , and it should be able to do at least 40 mpg if they do it right. It looks like these guys might be the ones to do it. http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/mahindra-appalachian-diesel-pickup-arrives-in-us-next-year-dies/ John Mark Nash wrote: I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General
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fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
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I see now. I'm sorry you had to settle for one fully loaded. Burn some rubber for me! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Sadly I have the inline 6 (nice smooth motor) and it's far too gutless for that! grin Probably a good thing for me though. This is what happens when I have a rig that will turn the tires http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IABYPB9Yqc grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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My first car was a Riviera with a v8 6.6L 403. I owned the highways with that power, I put gas stations out of business with the 8 mpg and I threatened anything that went too slow. Then one day... http://iam8up.com/fiya/ We have not made a move on a new vehicle yet so any other suggestions that exist are more then welcome! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Sadly I have the inline 6 (nice smooth motor) and it's far too gutless for that! grin Probably a good thing for me though. This is what happens when I have a rig that will turn the tires http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IABYPB9Yqc grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Cars are meant for travel. I will agree, though, I traveled a bit too hard =( I shed a tear every time I see that car. That thing was so comfortable... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Josh you are far too hard on your cars! They are supposed to smoke from the tires, not the passenger compartment! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My first car was a Riviera with a v8 6.6L 403. I owned the highways with that power, I put gas stations out of business with the 8 mpg and I threatened anything that went too slow. Then one day... http://iam8up.com/fiya/ We have not made a move on a new vehicle yet so any other suggestions that exist are more then welcome! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Sadly I have the inline 6 (nice smooth motor) and it's far too gutless for that! grin Probably a good thing for me though. This is what happens when I have a rig that will turn the tires http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IABYPB9Yqc grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I like F-150s, 4WD, extended cab, HDU on the back with ladder rack. That should get you to any tower site, hold up to a 40' extension ladder, provide secure storage for all your tools and supplies and get decent milage. C We have not made a move on a new vehicle yet so any other suggestions that exist are more then welcome! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I cant think of a nicer guy to get such a nice vehicle! Now, can come and give me a hand? :) -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
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LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
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If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" o...@odessaoffice.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/U
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Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
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I always thought of buying a hybrid... ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to say that I take my hybrid everywhere I go... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out
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lol, the latest fuel technology joke goes like this: During power outages, such as those experienced here in Kentucky during and after the ice storms, you gotta get gasoline to run your generator in order to charge up your hybrid! -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:38 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV: Buy a hybrid, I need your gas! ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
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But...I bet it got through the 120 miles quickly! I used to have one and miss it dearly, except for the gas stops. -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
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I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org
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Oh I believe it. Nothing Travis is able to pull off surprises me anymore. grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Uti lity.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy _osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%25 3A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0. m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
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Freeway speed limits in Idaho are 75mph. We usually drive 80mph. The Duramax will easily go that fast, even with 2,000 pounds in the bed and 9,800 pounds of sno-cat in tow. :) Travis Microserv RickG wrote: I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" o...@odessaoffice.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer ---
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Did I mention the 27 mile, 18ghz link with 2ft dishes I have running? :) Travis Brad Belton wrote: Oh I believe it. Nothing Travis is able to pull off surprises me anymore. grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" o...@odessaoffice.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Uti lity.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=gmc+envoy _osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%25 3A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_trksid=p3286.c0. m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wa
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I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
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Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
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I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
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Thats a hard one Josh, cost effective. I've been driving rigs since I got out of trade school in 76', sometimes being cheap on the front end is a mistake, unless you have a talent of finding killer deals by chance. For me, I enjoyed the last van I drove, it was a 98 ford long van and I went 10 years with nothing other than the usual maintenance. No surprise engine or transmission problems, just reliable. It was almost new when we bought it so we saved a few grand. I couldn't imagine buying an older vehicle that will hand me a big surprise and at the worst possible time. Cause seems like that when it happens. So new or almost is my choice. I like long vans. Long enough to slide my 10' step ladder in. I would use a pick up truck, but the rain is a problem 1/2 the year. So it's a van. As for gas millage, I have never seen a work truck thats loaded with equipment get better than 12 miles to the gallon. And if you buy a light weight vehicle and load it up with a lot of equipment like a mini van, expect to be doing tranny work fairly often. So it's a heavy duty vehicle which means bigger engine and low gas mileage. One thing that will save fuel costs is scheduling service calls in an orderly loop if it can be done. Instead of zig zagging across town, a straight line. Although zig zagging sometimes can't be avoided. George Josh Luthman wrote: I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing
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Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess it mostly boils down to how much depreciation you want to pay for, and are you willing to have down time now and then. I just have an extra rig, so... no problem. Not everyone wants to put up with that. It's really a cost/return/value thing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
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Money is so tight and loans are out of the question for such a young company. I do agree getting new or near new vehicle is the best option to avoid being truckless or vanless. I think for this upcoming week we'll just find some junker and make sure it at least runs so have a spare vehicle but in the future just have a new machine ready to go. I don't see a clear line between truck and van so I think we'll just look for the best deal at the time. Hopefully those new Dodge trucks with the remote locked cabinets come down soon =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: Dodge Caravans are indeed good under-rated vehicles. We used to have one and kept it till the automatic transmission broke, which is apparently inevitable. Our had racks inside, roof rack, all white, big logo, etc... The 4cyl and small-v6 ones are quite efficient. FWD with snow tires are unstoppable, and some have AWD as well. Growing up, we had caravans as family vehicles and hauled a huge amount of stuff in them when necessary. I drove it on the highway for 7 hours once before needing to gas up. Most of us are mechanically inclined, but I'd rather my guys be out doing stuff for customers or making the company money rather than tinkering with vehicles. We work with local independent mechanics when we need something fixed. We tend to have enough vehicles that if one is out of service for a couple days, all the work can still get done. I treat personal transportation the same way; instead of 2 newish cars, we have 3-4 used cars and if one's broken for a while, no big deal. Excise tax in Maine on new cars is obscene and is based on sticker price; something with a $35000 sticker will cost about $1000 in excise tax the first year, plus sales tax, etc... On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:15:00AM -0800, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess it mostly boils down to how much depreciation you want to pay for, and are you willing to have down time now and then. I just have an extra rig, so... no problem. Not everyone wants to put up with that. It's really a cost/return/value thing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04
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Dodge Caravans are indeed good under-rated vehicles. We used to have one and kept it till the automatic transmission broke, which is apparently inevitable. Our had racks inside, roof rack, all white, big logo, etc... The 4cyl and small-v6 ones are quite efficient. FWD with snow tires are unstoppable, and some have AWD as well. Growing up, we had caravans as family vehicles and hauled a huge amount of stuff in them when necessary. I drove it on the highway for 7 hours once before needing to gas up. Most of us are mechanically inclined, but I'd rather my guys be out doing stuff for customers or making the company money rather than tinkering with vehicles. We work with local independent mechanics when we need something fixed. We tend to have enough vehicles that if one is out of service for a couple days, all the work can still get done. I treat personal transportation the same way; instead of 2 newish cars, we have 3-4 used cars and if one's broken for a while, no big deal. Excise tax in Maine on new cars is obscene and is based on sticker price; something with a $35000 sticker will cost about $1000 in excise tax the first year, plus sales tax, etc... On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:15:00AM -0800, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess it mostly boils down to how much depreciation you want to pay for, and are you willing to have down time now and then. I just have an extra rig, so... no problem. Not everyone wants to put up with that. It's really a cost/return/value thing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still
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It may be worthwhile to consider a Dodge/Mercedes/Freightliner Sprinter Van. The drawback is that they have a high roof line, but they do get 20 + mpg in motorhome trim, and 25-30 mpg bare. They are Diesel and the engines are supposed to be good for 400,000 - 500,000 miles. John George Rogato wrote: Thats a hard one Josh, cost effective. I've been driving rigs since I got out of trade school in 76', sometimes being cheap on the front end is a mistake, unless you have a talent of finding killer deals by chance. For me, I enjoyed the last van I drove, it was a 98 ford long van and I went 10 years with nothing other than the usual maintenance. No surprise engine or transmission problems, just reliable. It was almost new when we bought it so we saved a few grand. I couldn't imagine buying an older vehicle that will hand me a big surprise and at the worst possible time. Cause seems like that when it happens. So new or almost is my choice. I like long vans. Long enough to slide my 10' step ladder in. I would use a pick up truck, but the rain is a problem 1/2 the year. So it's a van. As for gas millage, I have never seen a work truck thats loaded with equipment get better than 12 miles to the gallon. And if you buy a light weight vehicle and load it up with a lot of equipment like a mini van, expect to be doing tranny work fairly often. So it's a heavy duty vehicle which means bigger engine and low gas mileage. One thing that will save fuel costs is scheduling service calls in an orderly loop if it can be done. Instead of zig zagging across town, a straight line. Although zig zagging sometimes can't be avoided. George Josh Luthman wrote: I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday
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I bought a ford and they financed it. No interest. I'm pretty certain they are working deals to get them sold. Supposedly the truck I bought had a sticker and is worth 29k and I got it for 23k. And some of that money we all have been talking about: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_go_co/congress_stimulus Josh Luthman wrote: Money is so tight and loans are out of the question for such a young company. I do agree getting new or near new vehicle is the best option to avoid being truckless or vanless. I think for this upcoming week we'll just find some junker and make sure it at least runs so have a spare vehicle but in the future just have a new machine ready to go. I don't see a clear line between truck and van so I think we'll just look for the best deal at the time. Hopefully those new Dodge trucks with the remote locked cabinets come down soon =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: Dodge Caravans are indeed good under-rated vehicles. We used to have one and kept it till the automatic transmission broke, which is apparently inevitable. Our had racks inside, roof rack, all white, big logo, etc... The 4cyl and small-v6 ones are quite efficient. FWD with snow tires are unstoppable, and some have AWD as well. Growing up, we had caravans as family vehicles and hauled a huge amount of stuff in them when necessary. I drove it on the highway for 7 hours once before needing to gas up. Most of us are mechanically inclined, but I'd rather my guys be out doing stuff for customers or making the company money rather than tinkering with vehicles. We work with local independent mechanics when we need something fixed. We tend to have enough vehicles that if one is out of service for a couple days, all the work can still get done. I treat personal transportation the same way; instead of 2 newish cars, we have 3-4 used cars and if one's broken for a while, no big deal. Excise tax in Maine on new cars is obscene and is based on sticker price; something with a $35000 sticker will cost about $1000 in excise tax the first year, plus sales tax, etc... On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:15:00AM -0800, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess it mostly boils down to how much depreciation you want to pay for, and are you willing to have down time now and then. I just have an extra rig, so... no problem. Not everyone wants to put up with that. It's really a cost/return/value thing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky
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What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We have 1 Chevy Astro Cargo van 1 Toyota Tundra xtra cab 1 Nissan Frontier xtra cab 1 Chevy S10 All with ladder racks, big tube for pipes and cabinets Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We buy brand new Chevy Silverado 4x4 long-bed V6 work trucks. We tried the buy cheap and fix it when it breaks, but that doesn't work for us anymore. We can't have a vehicle out of service for 2-3 days because we give up 4-6 installs during that time. We get a $500 Lowe's card when we buy, so we use that to get toolboxes for the truck, and then we buy a $200 ladder rack off ebay. We also install our standard GPS tracking system, and have the truck decals put on. Takes us about a week from start to finish to get a new truck ready to go. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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A diesel truck would get you significantly better mileage. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle We bought our tower crew a 2006 Dodge Ram Extended Cab Truck, w/full Service Box on EBay for $8000 in August. It was a previous ATM service vehicle with 100,000 miles on it but was extremely clean. We did change a universal joint in a power shaft but other than that, there wasn't much wrong with it. Gas mileage is not so good, but it has been a great vehicle so far. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle 4 door Toyota Tacoma 4WD, 6ft bed: City 16/Hwy 20 Hugely expensive @ 28K new. When you go to buy one, tell them you will wait the 6 weeks it takes for one with nothing on it (service truck). My dealer rolled over and sold me a truck with everything on it for the gadget-less price. I added a ladder rack: http://www.kwikstand.info/US%20Rack/Side%20Mount%20Ladder%20Rack/ladder2a.j pg I like this one because I can make it disappear when needed. I also have a RAM mount: http://www.ram-mount.com/nodrillsystems/nodrillbases.htm for my laptop so it does not slide through my windshield. This setup seems to work pretty well for me. Low maintenance, US Built, good mileage, warm storage/people space in the back seat. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We buy brand new Chevy Silverado 4x4 long-bed V6 work trucks. We tried What kind of mpg you get out of them? Matt the buy cheap and fix it when it breaks, but that doesn't work for us anymore. We can't have a vehicle out of service for 2-3 days because we give up 4-6 installs during that time. We get a $500 Lowe's card when we buy, so we use that to get toolboxes for the truck, and then we buy a $200 ladder rack off ebay. We also install our standard GPS tracking system, and have the truck decals put on. Takes us about a week from start to finish to get a new truck ready to go. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We generally see 16mpg average (city driving, freeway at 80mph, etc.) with 500-700 pounds of gear in the back. Travis Matt wrote: We buy brand new Chevy Silverado 4x4 long-bed V6 work trucks. We tried What kind of mpg you get out of them? Matt the "buy cheap and fix it when it breaks", but that doesn't work for us anymore. We can't have a vehicle out of service for 2-3 days because we give up 4-6 installs during that time. We get a $500 Lowe's card when we buy, so we use that to get toolboxes for the truck, and then we buy a $200 ladder rack off ebay. We also install our standard GPS tracking system, and have the truck decals put on. Takes us about a week from start to finish to get a new truck ready to go. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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A Dodge diesel will get you between 20 and 25 mpg, pretty much no matter what you have in the back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle We generally see 16mpg average (city driving, freeway at 80mph, etc.) with 500-700 pounds of gear in the back. Travis Matt wrote: We buy brand new Chevy Silverado 4x4 long-bed V6 work trucks. We tried What kind of mpg you get out of them? Matt the buy cheap and fix it when it breaks, but that doesn't work for us anymore. We can't have a vehicle out of service for 2-3 days because we give up 4-6 installs during that time. We get a $500 Lowe's card when we buy, so we use that to get toolboxes for the truck, and then we buy a $200 ladder rack off ebay. We also install our standard GPS tracking system, and have the truck decals put on. Takes us about a week from start to finish to get a new truck ready to go. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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What do you do with all that extra room? 2007 Chevy 3/4 ton diesel, 17 MPG, Front Gen 3 interior light bar, Chamileon (Red/Blue/Amber with arrowstick) Interior rear arrowstick 4 rear LED sticks interior 4 split LED's in brush guard 4 split LED's on tool box Code 3 Mastercom siren VHF Icom P25 radio F1721D UHF Motorola CDM1550 Low band Motorola CDM1250 BC996T P25 trunking scanner Federal switch box Yaesu HF/VHF/UHF mobile with tuner Chargers for Maglight, ICOM F70 charger Installed inverters Whinch in bed GPS Edge chip programmer (This truck will do 126 MPH) And the most important things, XM radio Wired IPOD jack. Whoever dies with the most toys WINS! Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My '07 dodge Cummins gets 20mpg all day long. -Tomar lightbar with traffic advisor -Kenwood VHF mobile radio -CF-29 toughbook with gamber johson mount and Panasonic docking station -PA microphone with radio rebroadcast (works great when yelling at the ground crew from up on a tower.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now in the same place you are... ONe's got 210K miles and the other isn't far behind. I'm not sure what to replace them with. We now have a bucket truck, so I'm thinking we're going to switch to a less boxy rig. Perhaps a PT Cruiser or Jeep Cherokee. Although, Im still open to finding another manual transmission Dodge Caravan.The Caravans are hard to beat. Especially the 4 cyl manual. Even loaded with ladders and junk and driven most of the time with the foot near the floor, they manage to get 20-24 mpg. And they just keep on chugging. Should you break something, they're really cheap to fix. And Ive been off road, through deep snow, mud, fields, you name it. The only thing the offroading adventures have done is bend the oil pan :( Bad enough to wrinkle and spring a leak... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Nonsense. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I had many work vehicles. The best performing were: 1) Chevy Astro Cargo Van 2) Toyota Tacoma 3) Ford E250 *Dont do Dodge, you'll be sorry! -RickG On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
My 93 dodge diesel w/auto generally got about 18 while using it as a service rig. That included lots of idling, driving in town, etc. Not to mention, if you pushed the go pedal it would outrun any other stuck truck. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle A diesel truck would get you significantly better mileage. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle We bought our tower crew a 2006 Dodge Ram Extended Cab Truck, w/full Service Box on EBay for $8000 in August. It was a previous ATM service vehicle with 100,000 miles on it but was extremely clean. We did change a universal joint in a power shaft but other than that, there wasn't much wrong with it. Gas mileage is not so good, but it has been a great vehicle so far. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle 4 door Toyota Tacoma 4WD, 6ft bed: City 16/Hwy 20 Hugely expensive @ 28K new. When you go to buy one, tell them you will wait the 6 weeks it takes for one with nothing on it (service truck). My dealer rolled over and sold me a truck with everything on it for the gadget-less price. I added a ladder rack: http://www.kwikstand.info/US%20Rack/Side%20Mount%20Ladder%20Rack/ladder2a.j pg I like this one because I can make it disappear when needed. I also have a RAM mount: http://www.ram-mount.com/nodrillsystems/nodrillbases.htm for my laptop so it does not slide through my windshield. This setup seems to work pretty well for me. Low maintenance, US Built, good mileage, warm storage/people space in the back seat. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
THAT is the best part of all. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Ya but it's a Dodge ducking Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: My '07 dodge Cummins gets 20mpg all day long. -Tomar lightbar with traffic advisor -Kenwood VHF mobile radio -CF-29 toughbook with gamber johson mount and Panasonic docking station -PA microphone with radio rebroadcast (works great when yelling at the ground crew from up on a tower.) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle A Dodge diesel will get you between 20 and 25 mpg, pretty much no matter what you have in the back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle We generally see 16mpg average (city driving, freeway at 80mph, etc.) with 500-700 pounds of gear in the back. Travis Matt wrote: We buy brand new Chevy Silverado 4x4 long-bed V6 work trucks. We tried What kind of mpg you get out of them? Matt the buy cheap and fix it when it breaks, but that doesn't work for us anymore. We can't have a vehicle out of service for 2-3 days because we give up 4-6 installs during that time. We get a $500 Lowe's card when we buy, so we use that to get toolboxes for the truck, and then we buy a $200 ladder rack off ebay. We also install our standard GPS tracking system, and have the truck decals put on. Takes us about a week from start to finish to get a new truck ready to go. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
I got rid of my full sized 96 GMC Suburban (7~13mpg) and got me a 05 Dodge Caravan (19~30mpg). It handles a 35ft extension ladder + a boot of gear = ) Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now in the same place you are... ONe's got 210K miles and the other isn't far behind. I'm not sure what to replace them with. We now have a bucket truck, so I'm thinking we're going to switch to a less boxy rig. Perhaps a PT Cruiser or Jeep Cherokee. Although, Im still open to finding another manual transmission Dodge Caravan.The Caravans are hard to beat. Especially the 4 cyl manual. Even loaded with ladders and junk and driven most of the time with the foot near the floor, they manage to get 20-24 mpg. And they just keep on chugging. Should you break something, they're really cheap to fix. And Ive been off road, through deep snow, mud, fields, you name it. The only thing the offroading adventures have done is bend the oil pan :( Bad enough to wrinkle and spring a leak... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Ford E250 V10 with a bucket attachment. Inside geared out with drawers and cabinets. Used to be an old Cox service van. Got a picture of it on our front page www.wisp-router.com. The 34ft bucket reach makes site survey and install quick work. They rarely take down a ladder to do an install. Only problem is you only get 8-9mpg in mix driving and the spring and tire setup makes for a very stiff ride. Tires requires 80psi pressure and some tire inflators can not handle that. /Eje --Original Message-- From: jree...@18-30chat.net Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Sent: Feb 2, 2009 13:42 I got rid of my full sized 96 GMC Suburban (7~13mpg) and got me a 05 Dodge Caravan (19~30mpg). It handles a 35ft extension ladder + a boot of gear = ) Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
We bought a 2004 Ford Ranger V6 4x4. Small very useful machine. Got a custom canopy ($2400-worth) with toolboxes in the side, interior light, ladder rack, and paid extra for it to match the Ford paint, etc. Looks professional and the toolboxes on the sides give you very good access to your tools and supplies. Put a power inverter in the cab routed an electrical cable to the back of the canopy. Mounted a slim garden hose reel to the ceiling inside the canopy to easily reel up a outdoor cat5 test cable. Drawbacks are: - when it rains you can't leave the side boxes open - for stuff way up in the front of the bed, you have to crawl into it (not so easy for me, fairly easy for my 22-yr-old son who uses it) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle We bought our tower crew a 2006 Dodge Ram Extended Cab Truck, w/full Service Box on EBay for $8000 in August. It was a previous ATM service vehicle with 100,000 miles on it but was extremely clean. We did change a universal joint in a power shaft but other than that, there wasn't much wrong with it. Gas mileage is not so good, but it has been a great vehicle so far. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle 4 door Toyota Tacoma 4WD, 6ft bed: City 16/Hwy 20 Hugely expensive @ 28K new. When you go to buy one, tell them you will wait the 6 weeks it takes for one with nothing on it (service truck). My dealer rolled over and sold me a truck with everything on it for the gadget-less price. I added a ladder rack: http://www.kwikstand.info/US%20Rack/Side%20Mount%20Ladder%20Rack/ladder2a.j pg I like this one because I can make it disappear when needed. I also have a RAM mount: http://www.ram-mount.com/nodrillsystems/nodrillbases.htm for my laptop so it does not slide through my windshield. This setup seems to work pretty well for me. Low maintenance, US Built, good mileage, warm storage/people space in the back seat. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
What's wrong with a PT for service runs? Good economy (stick, not auto), durable, tolerates our bad roads, since it's engineered as a truck... and unique. With the seats down and whatnot, you can get a lotta stuff into it. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now in the same place you are... ONe's got 210K miles and the other isn't far behind. I'm not sure what to replace them with. We now have a bucket truck, so I'm thinking we're going to switch to a less boxy rig. Perhaps a PT Cruiser or Jeep Cherokee. Although, Im still open to finding another manual transmission Dodge Caravan.The Caravans are hard to beat. Especially the 4 cyl manual. Even loaded with ladders and junk and driven most of the time with the foot near the floor, they manage to get 20-24 mpg. And they just keep on chugging. Should you break something, they're really cheap to fix. And Ive been off road, through deep snow, mud, fields, you name it. The only thing the offroading adventures have done is bend the oil pan :( Bad enough to wrinkle and spring a leak... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Drawbacks are: - when it rains you can't leave the side boxes open - for stuff way up in the front of the bed, you have to crawl into it (not so easy for me, fairly easy for my 22-yr-old son who uses it) I started out with a pickup (still have it, but don't use it for that) and stopped for each of those reasons. That getting stuff from the front of the bed was something I just hated. I've found an AWD cargo Caravan for sale. No windows in the back. With safety cage and I'd probably put in some cabinetry... That would work quite well. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle We bought our tower crew a 2006 Dodge Ram Extended Cab Truck, w/full Service Box on EBay for $8000 in August. It was a previous ATM service vehicle with 100,000 miles on it but was extremely clean. We did change a universal joint in a power shaft but other than that, there wasn't much wrong with it. Gas mileage is not so good, but it has been a great vehicle so far. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle 4 door Toyota Tacoma 4WD, 6ft bed: City 16/Hwy 20 Hugely expensive @ 28K new. When you go to buy one, tell them you will wait the 6 weeks it takes for one with nothing on it (service truck). My dealer rolled over and sold me a truck with everything on it for the gadget-less price. I added a ladder rack: http://www.kwikstand.info/US%20Rack/Side%20Mount%20Ladder%20Rack/ladder2a.j pg I like this one because I can make it disappear when needed. I also have a RAM mount: http://www.ram-mount.com/nodrillsystems/nodrillbases.htm for my laptop so it does not slide through my windshield. This setup seems to work pretty well for me. Low maintenance, US Built, good mileage, warm storage/people space in the back seat. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Couple yrs ago I bought a 1988 Jeep Comanche for $100 bucks, and then traded a customer a couple hrs labor for a utility topper with ladder racks. Drove it for about a yr and only had to work on it for one thing (fuel pump went out 2 times because of grounding issue). Worked great until the employee blew a stop sign and t boned an suv. It went end for end and rolled. Everyone recovered. Right now I have a 1996 2wd Chevy work truck V6. Steel rims, bumper, no air, vinyl floor, ect. Paid $3000 for the truck (100k miles) and $400 for the utility topper (guy said he bought the topper for $2400 2 yrs ago) We got strap on chains for the Michigan weather and can get out of anything you should have been in in the first place. In 2 yrs I have changed the oil, done a tune up, replaced alternator ($100), and blower fan ($75). Lately I have seen 2005 plain jane work trucks for 5k. 90-100k miles. There are tons of companies who dump their fleet trucks (with utility topper and ladder rack) at 100 k mile. Just go get one cheap. I got my last one from 1800lastbid.com here is one for sale this week. there are always trucks on there... http://www.biddingatauction.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=818081117 2005 4x4 7k (completed auction jan 15) http://www.biddingatauction.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=818074991 2006 4x2 6k (completed auction jan 15) http://www.biddingatauction.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=818075820 Brian D. Ryan Spott wrote: 4 door Toyota Tacoma 4WD, 6ft bed: City 16/Hwy 20 Hugely expensive @ 28K new. When you go to buy one, tell them you will wait the 6 weeks it takes for one with nothing on it (service truck). My dealer rolled over and sold me a truck with everything on it for the gadget-less price. I added a ladder rack: http://www.kwikstand.info/US%20Rack/Side%20Mount%20Ladder%20Rack/ladder2a.jpg I like this one because I can make it disappear when needed. I also have a RAM mount: http://www.ram-mount.com/nodrillsystems/nodrillbases.htm for my laptop so it does not slide through my windshield. This setup seems to work pretty well for me. Low maintenance, US Built, good mileage, warm storage/people space in the back seat. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
IAWTC: In all reality how much gear do you really need to haul around all the time? A neon based rig like the PT Cruiser with a ladder on the top should be big enough for most, if not all resi installs. or a http://www.chevrolet.com/hhr/ hhr panel model. $25,185 with a ladder-rack, headache partition and a slide out cargo floor! 22/30MPG with the big engine. ryan rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: What's wrong with a PT for service runs? Good economy (stick, not auto), durable, tolerates our bad roads, since it's engineered as a truck... and unique. With the seats down and whatnot, you can get a lotta stuff into it. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now in the same place you are... ONe's got 210K miles and the other isn't far behind. I'm not sure what to replace them with. We now have a bucket truck, so I'm thinking we're going to switch to a less boxy rig. Perhaps a PT Cruiser or Jeep Cherokee. Although, Im still open to finding another manual transmission Dodge Caravan.The Caravans are hard to beat. Especially the 4 cyl manual. Even loaded with ladders and junk and driven most of the time with the foot near the floor, they manage to get 20-24 mpg. And they just keep on chugging. Should you break something, they're really cheap to fix. And Ive been off road, through deep snow, mud, fields, you name it. The only thing the offroading adventures have done is bend the oil pan :( Bad enough to wrinkle and spring a leak... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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PT cruiser? That is one step up from the Geek Squad and their VW bugs. I'd like to see someone put a ladder on one of those! :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jree...@18-30chat.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now in the same place you are... ONe's got 210K miles and the other isn't far behind. I'm not sure what to replace them with. We now have a bucket truck, so I'm thinking we're going to switch to a less boxy rig. Perhaps a PT Cruiser or Jeep Cherokee. Although, Im still open to finding another manual transmission Dodge Caravan.The Caravans are hard to beat. Especially the 4 cyl manual. Even loaded with ladders and junk and driven most of the time with the foot near the floor, they manage to get 20-24 mpg. And they just keep on chugging. Should you break something, they're really cheap to fix. And Ive been off road, through deep snow, mud, fields, you name it. The only thing the offroading adventures have done is bend the oil pan :( Bad enough to wrinkle and spring a leak... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I have a client who had one. Nothing but problems. They got rid of it. They cashed out when gold hit 1k/oz and now live in Yuma. Should`a kept the Miller Mine my parents had, better return on time! lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:12 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: What's wrong with a PT for service runs? Good economy (stick, not auto), durable, tolerates our bad roads, since it's engineered as a truck... and unique. With the seats down and whatnot, you can get a lotta stuff into it. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now in the same place you are... ONe's got 210K miles and the other isn't far behind. I'm not sure what to replace them with. We now have a bucket truck, so I'm thinking we're going to switch to a less boxy rig. Perhaps a PT Cruiser or Jeep Cherokee. Although, Im still open to finding another manual transmission Dodge Caravan.The Caravans are hard to beat. Especially the 4 cyl manual. Even loaded with ladders and junk and driven most of the time with the foot near the floor, they manage to get 20-24 mpg. And they just keep on chugging. Should you break something, they're really cheap to fix. And Ive been off road, through deep snow, mud, fields, you name it. The only thing the offroading adventures have done is bend the oil pan :( Bad enough to wrinkle and spring a leak... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
I just did an inventory the other day of our service truck must-haves, in order to really understand what it would take to outfit another truck (something we're considering). In order to be as successful as we are for installs, repairs, and tower work, here's the list (some stuff we pull from the office for tower work): Tools: T25 stapler Scissors Drill Coax cutter 5/8 wrench 9/16 wrench Step bits Tilt gauge Electrical wire stripper Allen wrenches - standard and metric Torx wrench set Tape measure Punch tool Lmr400 crimper Lmr600 crimper Lmr400 stripper Lmr600 stripper #0 phillips screwdriver #1 phillips screwdriver #3 phillips screwdriver Soldering iron Caulking gun Hammer Drill bit set Sawzall blades Drill batteries Battery charger Rat tail bastard Round bastard Drill bits: - 3/8 bell hanger - 3/8 long masonry - 1/2 bell hanger - 5/16 long bit - 5/16 long masonry Cable tester Multimeter Sawzall Headlamp Torch Hose reel with outdoor cat5 for testing Cable despooler GPS binoculars Tool belt (each person in truck): cat5 crimper wire cutters cat5 stripper channel-lock pliers adjustable wrench level #2 phillips screwdriver flat screwdriver allen wrench for warcase deep-well sockets (on 3/8 drive quick-change bit for drill): - 10mm - 8mm - 3/8 - 7/16 - 1/2 ratcheting wrenches: - 10mm - 3/8 - 7/16 - 1/2 3/8 magnetic nut driver 5/16 magnetic nut driver sharpie mini-mag flashlight Supplies: Velcro wire straps Fusion tape Duct tape Electrical tape Scotch tape 14 zip ties 11 zip ties 8 eyelet zip ties Aerial grips Eye screws Bailing wire Outdoor couplers Plastic anchors (green and blue) 1/4 nuts, washers, lock washers, locknuts 5/16 nuts, washers, lock washers, locknuts Tranzeo locknuts 4/40 screws Baking soda 3 drywall screws 2 drywall screws 1 drywall screws NF-NF barrel adapter NM-NM barrel adapter Indoor RJ45 couplers Big and small washers Fender washers to fit a drywall screw Small self-drilling screw with 3/8 head Small self-drilling screw with 5/16 head Staples 9/16 for T25 Labeling zip ties Velcro Tri-adapter for inverter Solder Bug spray Silicon caulk Paper towels #6 screws 1 1/4 black cable clamps Pan head sheet metal screws 1 4 lag screw galv 1/4 carriage bolt 3 Tek screws for mounts Sharpie Heat shrink for lmr400 lmr600 First aid kit Extension cords Clipboard Outdoor cat5 cable Radio equipment parts: Warcase mount 1' cat5 jumpers NM-NM coax jumpers NM-NF coax jumpers RPSMA-NF coax jumper Extra WAR1 Rubber duck antenna 1 Plastic standoffs - 2 type 1 of every power supply MMCX-NFB pigtails U.fl-NFB pigtails U.fl-NF warcase pigtails Cat5 feedthru RA - SMA-MMCX pigtail Coax connectors: - lmr195 - lmr400 - lmr600 Hyperlink u-bolt assemblies Pac wireless u-bolt assemblies Stash of radio cards - at least 1 of each kind Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle IAWTC: In all reality how much gear do you really need to haul around all the time? A neon based rig like the PT Cruiser with a ladder on the top should be big enough for most, if not all resi installs. or a http://www.chevrolet.com/hhr/ hhr panel model. $25,185 with a ladder-rack, headache partition and a slide out cargo floor! 22/30MPG with the big engine. ryan rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: What's wrong with a PT for service runs? Good economy (stick, not auto), durable, tolerates our bad roads, since it's engineered as a truck... and unique. With the seats down and whatnot, you can get a lotta stuff into it. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now in the same place you are... ONe's got 210K miles and the other isn't far behind. I'm not sure what to replace them with. We now have a bucket truck, so I'm thinking we're going to switch to a less boxy rig. Perhaps a PT Cruiser or Jeep Cherokee. Although, Im still open to finding another manual transmission Dodge Caravan.The Caravans are hard to beat. Especially the 4 cyl manual. Even loaded with ladders
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Baking soda? Greg On 2/2/09 5:56 PM, Mark Nash wrote: I just did an inventory the other day of our service truck "must-haves", in order to really understand what it would take to outfit another truck (something we're considering). In order to be as successful as we are for installs, repairs, and tower work, here's the list (some stuff we pull from the office for tower work): Tools: T25 stapler Scissors Drill Coax cutter 5/8 wrench 9/16 wrench Step bits Tilt gauge Electrical wire stripper Allen wrenches - standard and metric Torx wrench set Tape measure Punch tool Lmr400 crimper Lmr600 crimper Lmr400 stripper Lmr600 stripper #0 phillips screwdriver #1 phillips screwdriver #3 phillips screwdriver Soldering iron Caulking gun Hammer Drill bit set Sawzall blades Drill batteries Battery charger Rat tail bastard Round bastard Drill bits: - 3/8 bell hanger - 3/8 long masonry - 1/2 bell hanger - 5/16 long bit - 5/16 long masonry Cable tester Multimeter Sawzall Headlamp Torch Hose reel with outdoor cat5 for testing Cable despooler GPS binoculars Tool belt (each person in truck): cat5 crimper wire cutters cat5 stripper channel-lock pliers adjustable wrench level #2 phillips screwdriver flat screwdriver allen wrench for warcase deep-well sockets (on 3/8" drive quick-change bit for drill): - 10mm - 8mm - 3/8" - 7/16" - 1/2" ratcheting wrenches: - 10mm - 3/8" - 7/16" - 1/2" 3/8" magnetic nut driver 5/16" magnetic nut driver sharpie mini-mag flashlight Supplies: Velcro wire straps Fusion tape Duct tape Electrical tape Scotch tape 14" zip ties 11" zip ties 8" eyelet zip ties Aerial grips Eye screws Bailing wire Outdoor couplers Plastic anchors (green and blue) 1/4" nuts, washers, lock washers, locknuts 5/16" nuts, washers, lock washers, locknuts Tranzeo locknuts 4/40 screws Baking soda 3" drywall screws 2" drywall screws 1" drywall screws NF-NF barrel adapter NM-NM barrel adapter Indoor RJ45 couplers Big and small washers Fender washers to fit a drywall screw Small self-drilling screw with 3/8 head Small self-drilling screw with 5/16 head Staples 9/16" for T25 Labeling zip ties Velcro Tri-adapter for inverter Solder Bug spray Silicon caulk Paper towels #6 screws 1" 1/4" black cable clamps Pan head sheet metal screws 1" 4" lag screw galv 1/4" carriage bolt 3" Tek screws for mounts Sharpie Heat shrink for lmr400 lmr600 First aid kit Extension cords Clipboard Outdoor cat5 cable Radio equipment parts: Warcase mount 1' cat5 jumpers NM-NM coax jumpers NM-NF coax jumpers RPSMA-NF coax jumper Extra WAR1 Rubber duck antenna 1 Plastic standoffs - 2 type 1 of every power supply MMCX-NFB pigtails U.fl-NFB pigtails U.fl-NF warcase pigtails Cat5 feedthru RA - SMA-MMCX pigtail Coax connectors: - lmr195 - lmr400 - lmr600 Hyperlink u-bolt assemblies Pac wireless u-bolt assemblies Stash of radio cards - at least 1 of each kind Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: "D. Ryan Spott" rsp...@cspott.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle IAWTC: In all reality how much gear do you really need to haul around all the time? A neon based rig like the PT Cruiser with a ladder on the top should be big enough for most, if not all resi installs. or a http://www.chevrolet.com/hhr/ hhr panel model. $25,185 with a ladder-rack, headache partition and a slide out cargo floor! 22/30MPG with the "big" engine. ryan rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: What's wrong with a PT for service runs? Good economy (stick, not auto), durable, tolerates our bad roads, since it's engineered as a truck... and unique. With the seats down and whatnot, you can get a lotta stuff into it. insert witty tagline here ----- Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have t
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We use a Cargo van and an HHR On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:21 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: IAWTC: In all reality how much gear do you really need to haul around all the time? A neon based rig like the PT Cruiser with a ladder on the top should be big enough for most, if not all resi installs. or a http://www.chevrolet.com/hhr/ hhr panel model. $25,185 with a ladder-rack, headache partition and a slide out cargo floor! 22/30MPG with the big engine. ryan rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: What's wrong with a PT for service runs? Good economy (stick, not auto), durable, tolerates our bad roads, since it's engineered as a truck... and unique. With the seats down and whatnot, you can get a lotta stuff into it. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now in the same place you are... ONe's got 210K miles and the other isn't far behind. I'm not sure what to replace them with. We now have a bucket truck, so I'm thinking we're going to switch to a less boxy rig. Perhaps a PT Cruiser or Jeep Cherokee. Although, Im still open to finding another manual transmission Dodge Caravan.The Caravans are hard to beat. Especially the 4 cyl manual. Even loaded with ladders and junk and driven most of the time with the foot near the floor, they manage to get 20-24 mpg. And they just keep on chugging. Should you break something, they're really cheap to fix. And Ive been off road, through deep snow, mud, fields, you name it. The only thing the offroading adventures have done is bend the oil pan :( Bad enough to wrinkle and spring a leak... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
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Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Baking soda, mixed into a paste with a little water, diffuses wasp stings. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Baking soda? Greg On 2/2/09 5:56 PM, Mark Nash wrote: I just did an inventory the other day of our service truck must-haves, in order to really understand what it would take to outfit another truck (something we're considering). In order to be as successful as we are for installs, repairs, and tower work, here's the list (some stuff we pull from the office for tower work): Tools: T25 stapler Scissors Drill Coax cutter 5/8 wrench 9/16 wrench Step bits Tilt gauge Electrical wire stripper Allen wrenches - standard and metric Torx wrench set Tape measure Punch tool Lmr400 crimper Lmr600 crimper Lmr400 stripper Lmr600 stripper #0 phillips screwdriver #1 phillips screwdriver #3 phillips screwdriver Soldering iron Caulking gun Hammer Drill bit set Sawzall blades Drill batteries Battery charger Rat tail bastard Round bastard Drill bits: - 3/8 bell hanger - 3/8 long masonry - 1/2 bell hanger - 5/16 long bit - 5/16 long masonry Cable tester Multimeter Sawzall Headlamp Torch Hose reel with outdoor cat5 for testing Cable despooler GPS binoculars Tool belt (each person in truck): cat5 crimper wire cutters cat5 stripper channel-lock pliers adjustable wrench level #2 phillips screwdriver flat screwdriver allen wrench for warcase deep-well sockets (on 3/8 drive quick-change bit for drill): - 10mm - 8mm - 3/8 - 7/16 - 1/2 ratcheting wrenches: - 10mm - 3/8 - 7/16 - 1/2 3/8 magnetic nut driver 5/16 magnetic nut driver sharpie mini-mag flashlight Supplies: Velcro wire straps Fusion tape Duct tape Electrical tape Scotch tape 14 zip ties 11 zip ties 8 eyelet zip ties Aerial grips Eye screws Bailing wire Outdoor couplers Plastic anchors (green and blue) 1/4 nuts, washers, lock washers, locknuts 5/16 nuts, washers, lock washers, locknuts Tranzeo locknuts 4/40 screws Baking soda 3 drywall screws 2 drywall screws 1 drywall screws NF-NF barrel adapter NM-NM barrel adapter Indoor RJ45 couplers Big and small washers Fender washers to fit a drywall screw Small self-drilling screw with 3/8 head Small self-drilling screw with 5/16 head Staples 9/16 for T25 Labeling zip ties Velcro Tri-adapter for inverter Solder Bug spray Silicon caulk Paper towels #6 screws 1 1/4 black cable clamps Pan head sheet metal screws 1 4 lag screw galv 1/4 carriage bolt 3 Tek screws for mounts Sharpie Heat shrink for lmr400 lmr600 First aid kit Extension cords Clipboard Outdoor cat5 cable Radio equipment parts: Warcase mount 1' cat5 jumpers NM-NM coax jumpers NM-NF coax jumpers RPSMA-NF coax jumper Extra WAR1 Rubber duck antenna 1 Plastic standoffs - 2 type 1 of every power supply MMCX-NFB pigtails U.fl-NFB pigtails U.fl-NF warcase pigtails Cat5 feedthru RA - SMA-MMCX pigtail Coax connectors: - lmr195 - lmr400 - lmr600 Hyperlink u-bolt assemblies Pac wireless u-bolt assemblies Stash of radio cards - at least 1 of each kind Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle IAWTC: In all reality how much gear do you really need to haul around all the time? A neon based rig like the PT Cruiser with a ladder on the top should be big enough for most, if not all resi installs. or a http://www.chevrolet.com/hhr/ hhr panel model. $25,185 with a ladder-rack, headache partition and a slide out cargo floor! 22/30MPG with the big engine. ryan rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: What's wrong with a PT for service runs? Good economy (stick, not auto), durable, tolerates our bad roads, since it's engineered as a truck... and unique. With the seats down and whatnot, you can get a lotta stuff into it. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle PT Cruiser?!! I shudder. I would go for another Caravan. The only thing I wish mine had was 4wd. I am likely getting a S10 blazer for the rough work. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: We use an old Dodge Caravan. These have drip rails on them to fasten standard ladder racks to, and carry ladders on a rack nicely. We can put our 28 footer on it ok. It overhangs the front bumper a little, but it's ok. I have two of them, and in the last 3 year's we've racked up about 75,000 miles between them. We're now
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Its also very good for battery acid leaks from battery banks. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Baking soda, mixed into a paste with a little water, diffuses wasp stings. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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it also helps keep your fridge nice fresh... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Its also very good for battery acid leaks from battery banks. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Baking soda, mixed into a paste with a little water, diffuses wasp stings. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Our bucket truck is a Dodge w/cummins and 6 speed.It gets around 16-17 mpg. The fuel is only part of the cost of a truck, though. Tires wear fast, cost a lot to replace... diesels cost more for oil and filter changes than gas rigs. However, it's nice to know that there's 325 HP under the hood and it's got go anywhere 4WD. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We bought our tower crew a 2006 Dodge Ram Extended Cab Truck, w/full Service Box on EBay for $8000 in August. It was a previous ATM service vehicle with 100,000 miles on it but was extremely clean. We did change a universal joint in a power shaft but other than that, there wasn't much wrong with it. Gas mileage is not so good, but it has been a great vehicle so far. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle 4 door Toyota Tacoma 4WD, 6ft bed: City 16/Hwy 20 Hugely expensive @ 28K new. When you go to buy one, tell them you will wait the 6 weeks it takes for one with nothing on it (service truck). My dealer rolled over and sold me a truck with everything on it for the gadget-less price. I added a ladder rack: http://www.kwikstand.info/US%20Rack/Side%20Mount%20Ladder%20Rack/ladder2a.j pg I like this one because I can make it disappear when needed. I also have a RAM mount: http://www.ram-mount.com/nodrillsystems/nodrillbases.htm for my laptop so it does not slide through my windshield. This setup seems to work pretty well for me. Low maintenance, US Built, good mileage, warm storage/people space in the back seat. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Tires wear fast if you don't know how to drive. ;-) I should know, they only last 15k miles on my personal truck. Shouldn't be a problem to get over 60k miles out of a set of commercial tires driven sanely. My friend with the 06 has 90k on his tires, but they need replacing. I'd check with your local dealer to see if there are any software updates for your truck. Otherwise, look into an Edge, Banks, etc. chip\programmer. More power while getting better mileage (my brother's 500 hp Dodge gets over 20 mpg, only 10 when the foot is heavy). I've seen my brother's truck practically push mud with his bumper... made it out alive. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Our bucket truck is a Dodge w/cummins and 6 speed.It gets around 16-17 mpg. The fuel is only part of the cost of a truck, though. Tires wear fast, cost a lot to replace... diesels cost more for oil and filter changes than gas rigs. However, it's nice to know that there's 325 HP under the hood and it's got go anywhere 4WD. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I had many work vehicles. The best performing were: 1) Chevy Astro Cargo Van 2) Toyota Tacoma 3) Ford E250 *Dont do Dodge, you'll be sorry! -RickG On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
4 door Toyota Tacoma 4WD, 6ft bed: City 16/Hwy 20 Hugely expensive @ 28K new. When you go to buy one, tell them you will wait the 6 weeks it takes for one with nothing on it (service truck). My dealer rolled over and sold me a truck with everything on it for the gadget-less price. I added a ladder rack: http://www.kwikstand.info/US%20Rack/Side%20Mount%20Ladder%20Rack/ladder2a.jpg I like this one because I can make it disappear when needed. I also have a RAM mount: http://www.ram-mount.com/nodrillsystems/nodrillbases.htm for my laptop so it does not slide through my windshield. This setup seems to work pretty well for me. Low maintenance, US Built, good mileage, warm storage/people space in the back seat. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
LOL! I knew my Dont do Dodge comment would bring on MOPAR madness!!! -RickG On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net wrote: We bought our tower crew a 2006 Dodge Ram Extended Cab Truck, w/full Service Box on EBay for $8000 in August. It was a previous ATM service vehicle with 100,000 miles on it but was extremely clean. We did change a universal joint in a power shaft but other than that, there wasn't much wrong with it. Gas mileage is not so good, but it has been a great vehicle so far. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle 4 door Toyota Tacoma 4WD, 6ft bed: City 16/Hwy 20 Hugely expensive @ 28K new. When you go to buy one, tell them you will wait the 6 weeks it takes for one with nothing on it (service truck). My dealer rolled over and sold me a truck with everything on it for the gadget-less price. I added a ladder rack: http://www.kwikstand.info/US%20Rack/Side%20Mount%20Ladder%20Rack/ladder2a.j pg I like this one because I can make it disappear when needed. I also have a RAM mount: http://www.ram-mount.com/nodrillsystems/nodrillbases.htm for my laptop so it does not slide through my windshield. This setup seems to work pretty well for me. Low maintenance, US Built, good mileage, warm storage/people space in the back seat. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: What does everyone use for a service vehicle? We have an 1999 f250 that is at the end of it's road. It has the cabinets and ladder racks to put al our stuff in. Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new Dodge. If you haven't seen these check them out. If we could afford these I wouldn't be asking :( WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
