[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Products.Five/branches/1.4/skel/site.zcml Include overrides for non-Products
Log message for revision 69744: Include overrides for non-Products Changed: U Products.Five/branches/1.4/skel/site.zcml -=- Modified: Products.Five/branches/1.4/skel/site.zcml === --- Products.Five/branches/1.4/skel/site.zcml 2006-08-24 00:05:38 UTC (rev 69743) +++ Products.Five/branches/1.4/skel/site.zcml 2006-08-24 00:18:53 UTC (rev 69744) @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@ !-- Load the configuration overrides-- + includeOverrides files=package-includes/*-overrides.zcml / five:loadProductsOverrides / /configure ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins
[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Products/ point externals at a branch
Log message for revision 69748: point externals at a branch Changed: _U Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Products/ -=- Property changes on: Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Products ___ Name: svn:externals - Fivesvn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.Five/tags/1.5 + Five svn+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/repos/main/Products.Five/branches/whitmo-15-layers ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins
[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Products.Five/branches/whitmo-15-layers/viewlet/tests.py adding explicit package arg
Log message for revision 69749:
adding explicit package arg
Changed:
U Products.Five/branches/whitmo-15-layers/viewlet/tests.py
-=-
Modified: Products.Five/branches/whitmo-15-layers/viewlet/tests.py
===
--- Products.Five/branches/whitmo-15-layers/viewlet/tests.py2006-08-24
02:03:51 UTC (rev 69748)
+++ Products.Five/branches/whitmo-15-layers/viewlet/tests.py2006-08-24
02:18:00 UTC (rev 69749)
@@ -87,8 +87,10 @@
return unittest.TestSuite((
FunctionalDocFileSuite('README.txt'),
FunctionalDocFileSuite('directives.txt',
- setUp=setUp, tearDown=tearDown
- ),
+ setUp=setUp,
+ tearDown=tearDown,
+ package=Products.Five.viewlet
+ ),
))
if __name__ == '__main__':
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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py separating server start into own layer
Log message for revision 69755:
separating server start into own layer
Changed:
U
Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py
-=-
Modified:
Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py
===
---
Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py
2006-08-24 03:55:06 UTC (rev 69754)
+++
Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py
2006-08-24 04:19:45 UTC (rev 69755)
@@ -45,11 +45,9 @@
# Create the error_log object
ZopeTestCase.utils.setupSiteErrorLog()
-# Start the web server
-host, port = ZopeTestCase.utils.startZServer(4)
-folder_url = 'http://%s:%d/%s' %(host, port, ZopeTestCase.folder_name)
+
class ManagementOpener(urllib.FancyURLopener):
'''Logs on as manager when prompted'''
def prompt_user_passwd(self, host, realm):
@@ -60,9 +58,29 @@
def prompt_user_passwd(self, host, realm):
raise Unauthorized, 'The URLopener was asked for authentication'
+from layer import Zope2Layer
+folder_url, host, port = None, None, None
+
+class WebserverLayer(Zope2Layer):
+@classmethod
+def setUp(cls):
+global host, port, folder_url
+# Start the web server
+host, port = ZopeTestCase.utils.startZServer(4)
+folder_url = 'http://%s:%d/%s' %(host, port, ZopeTestCase.folder_name)
+
+@classmethod
+def tearDown(cls):
+import Testing.ZopeTestCase.utils
+Testing.ZopeTestCase.utils._Z2HOST = None
+Testing.ZopeTestCase.utils._Z2PORT = None
+# XXX shut down the zserver too
+
class TestWebserver(ZopeTestCase.ZopeTestCase):
+layer = WebserverLayer
+
def afterSetUp(self):
uf = self.folder.acl_users
uf.userFolderAddUser('manager', 'secret', ['Manager'], [])
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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/ fixing up issues when all test run
Log message for revision 69756: fixing up issues when all test run - new layer for testing webserver todo: fix sessions in sanboxs rename Zope2Layer Changed: U Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/layer.py U Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/sandbox.py U Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testShoppingCart.py U Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py U Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testZODBCompat.py U Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/utils.py -=- Modified: Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/layer.py === --- Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/layer.py 2006-08-24 04:19:45 UTC (rev 69755) +++ Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/layer.py 2006-08-24 04:31:52 UTC (rev 69756) @@ -43,6 +43,8 @@ for name, quiet in _products] [func(*args, **kw) for func, args, kw in _z2_callables] +import transaction as txn +txn.commit() @classmethod def tearDown(cls): Modified: Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/sandbox.py === --- Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/sandbox.py 2006-08-24 04:19:45 UTC (rev 69755) +++ Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/sandbox.py 2006-08-24 04:31:52 UTC (rev 69756) @@ -19,6 +19,7 @@ import utils import connections + class Sandboxed: '''Derive from this class and an xTestCase to make each test run in its own ZODB sandbox:: Modified: Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testShoppingCart.py === --- Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testShoppingCart.py 2006-08-24 04:19:45 UTC (rev 69755) +++ Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testShoppingCart.py 2006-08-24 04:31:52 UTC (rev 69756) @@ -34,20 +34,22 @@ examples_path = os.path.join(SOFTWARE_HOME, '..', '..', 'skel', 'import', 'Examples.zexp') examples_path = os.path.abspath(examples_path) - -# Open ZODB connection -app = ZopeTestCase.app() - # Set up sessioning objects -ZopeTestCase.utils.setupCoreSessions(app) +ZopeTestCase.utils.setupCoreSessions() -# Set up example applications -if not hasattr(app, 'Examples'): -ZopeTestCase.utils.importObjectFromFile(app, examples_path) +from layer import Zope2Layer -# Close ZODB connection -ZopeTestCase.close(app) +class ShoppingCartLayer(Zope2Layer): +@classmethod +def setUp(cls): +app = ZopeTestCase.app() +if not hasattr(app, 'Examples'): +ZopeTestCase.utils.importObjectFromFile(app, examples_path) +ZopeTestCase.close(app) +@classmethod +def tearDown(cls): +raise NotImplementedError class DummyOrder: '''Construct an order we can add to the cart''' @@ -61,6 +63,8 @@ class TestShoppingCart(ZopeTestCase.ZopeTestCase): '''Test the ShoppingCart example application''' +layer = ShoppingCartLayer + _setup_fixture = 0 # No default fixture def afterSetUp(self): @@ -116,11 +120,10 @@ # Additional test to trigger connection pool depletion bug pass - class TestSandboxedShoppingCart(ZopeTestCase.Sandboxed, TestShoppingCart): '''Demonstrate that sessions work in sandboxes''' + - def test_suite(): from unittest import TestSuite, makeSuite suite = TestSuite() Modified: Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py === --- Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py 2006-08-24 04:19:45 UTC (rev 69755) +++ Zope/branches/whitmo-2.10-layers/lib/python/Testing/ZopeTestCase/testWebserver.py 2006-08-24 04:31:52 UTC (rev 69756) @@ -39,15 +39,14 @@ from Testing import ZopeTestCase from Testing.ZopeTestCase import transaction +from Testing.ZopeTestCase.layer import Zope2Layer + from AccessControl import Unauthorized import urllib # Create the error_log object ZopeTestCase.utils.setupSiteErrorLog() - - - class ManagementOpener(urllib.FancyURLopener): '''Logs on as manager when prompted''' def prompt_user_passwd(self, host, realm): @@ -58,8 +57,6 @@ def prompt_user_passwd(self, host, realm): raise Unauthorized, 'The URLopener was asked for authentication' -from layer import Zope2Layer - folder_url, host, port = None, None, None class WebserverLayer(Zope2Layer): Modified:
[Zope-dev] Hotfix-20060821 does not apply to zope 2.7.0 to 2.7.2?
From what I can tell the feature that is Hotfixed does not appear until Zope 2.7.3. If the Hotfix is installed in Zope 2.7.0 through to 2.7.2 then it shows up as a broken product. No real harm done. The product import breaks with: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 660, in import_product product=__import__(pname, global_dict, global_dict, silly) File /usr/local/www/Zope/Atrac/Products/Hotfix_20060821/__init__.py, line 8, in ? from docutils.parsers.rst.directives import tables ImportError: cannot import name tables And we see that ``tables`` not show up till Zope 2.7.3 via: http://cvs.zope.org/Zope/lib/python/docutils/parsers/rst/directives/Attic/tables.py?hideattic=0only_with_tag=Zope-2_7-branch And a casual glance around docutils before ``tables`` was introducded suggests that feature was not part of another module. Cheers Michael ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig
Andrew Sawyers wrote: What's up with zopefoundation.org - especially since it's changed since I looked at it yesterday? :P) We were making sure zopefoundation.org points to www.zope.org/foundation. zopefoundation.org was on a completely separate system that Mark Pratt was kind enough to set up for us, but the board decided it was not for us for the time being. Since then we've made zopefoundation.org point to the canonical location, which is, to repeat: http://www.zope.org/foundation Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: I'm here. I'll tweak the design per the suggestions below and send it out. I actually worked on another one since then. Ill send that out as well. Tom, you're awesome! Thanks! Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 8/22/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I propose letting www.zope.org/foundation point to a Apache directory, where we maintain HTML files. We will then generate such HTML files from restructured text we maintain in the zope SVN repository, using a simple script that drives docutils. I'm torn between on one hand, the sillyness of not using Zope + what I think is a bit tricky from a maintaining point of view and on the other hand, the benefit of having things versioned. I have worked with the codespeak stuff, and I can't really say I like it, although it makes sense when it comes to code, with the automatic tarball generation form release tags and all that. Yes, this strategy indeed makes more sense with code (where documentation is often maintained along with the code) than with something like this site. In the end, what I care most about it that things happen now. So if this is faster than setting up a plone/cps/silva site, then by all means, go ahead. I do think it's faster to get going with this. [snip] However, integrating that layout into something that can be used primarily on Plone (or CPS. Or maybe both, with CPSSkins) usable for any *.zope.org microsites seems to be to be a worthwhile task. That's a very welcome offer! We have a (hopefully still) standing offer from the Plone community to host the site on the plone.org infrastructure that we definitely need to investigate. I hope we can all have this together in a couple of weeks, Weeks? Wasn't it working yesterday? :-) On 8/22/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's up with zopefoundation.org - especially since it's changed since I looked at it yesterday? :P) Yeah, I second that question. :^) It seems to me that the fastest way of doing this is doing what was done yesterday, and redirecting www.zope.org/foundation there. Unfortunately it was in a hosted environment entirely separate from zope.org or even the zope community as far as I'm aware. We also had the impression that it seemed to offer limited content management facilities - more facilities to maintain members and so on, but we don't have a need for something like that just yet. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] website design discussion
[taking people off the cc list, changing the title] Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://modscape.com/zope I added Design 2. I like it much better than Design 1. I think we should work off of Design 2 Thoughts? Hey, great! I'm afraid I prefer design 1, myself. :) What do you like better about design 2? I kind of liked the watery theme on top in design 1. I also liked better the way the boxes in the main area rendered, though we'll probably not need them for a typical sub page which will presumably contain text. Finally, there's more unused space on the left side in design 2, design 1 seemed more efficient that way. Note that both design 1 and design 2 have a slight problem in the rendering of the menu, the word 'documentation' is too long and runs into the next entry. This is on Firefox 1.5.0.5 on linux. I'd still like to see the design for a sub-page. After all, we're mostly going to see such sub pages. That is, no blue boxes on the side; that's something good on a front page, and plain text in the middle (perhaps with an image or two). Since I'm not a big fan of pull-down menus for navigation myself, perhaps some of the sidebar space could be used for navigation (I'd prefer the left hand side), instead of the menus on top, or perhaps we could use some of the space for info boxes. plone.org uses tabs on the top for major areas and a sidebar for the subsites - it seems to work well for them, so perhaps this might work for us too. What do people think? Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig
On 8/23/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think it's faster to get going with this. OK. We can always switch. I have a mantra: If it works now, then use it. This means to never hold out for something that might be better in the future, because it aint gonna happen. :) However, integrating that layout into something that can be used primarily on Plone (or CPS. Or maybe both, with CPSSkins) usable for any *.zope.org microsites seems to be to be a worthwhile task. That's a very welcome offer! We have a (hopefully still) standing offer from the Plone community to host the site on the plone.org infrastructure that we definitely need to investigate. I have never adapted a design for Plone (or even CPS for that matter) so I have no idea what kind of effort is involved. I have heard evil things though. :-) Maybe we can start a product to hold the skins somewhere, so several people can work on different bits of it? Yeah, I second that question. :^) It seems to me that the fastest way of doing this is doing what was done yesterday, and redirecting www.zope.org/foundation there. Unfortunately it was in a hosted environment entirely separate from zope.org or even the zope community as far as I'm aware. We also had the impression that it seemed to offer limited content management facilities - more facilities to maintain members and so on, but we don't have a need for something like that just yet. So, is there a reason NOT to use it? And if there is, is there a reason not to use it temporarily. Pointing it there now, and switching to a script based system in a couple of weeks, would be much better than just switching in a couple of weeks, imo. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] website design discussion
On 8/23/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [taking people off the cc list, changing the title] Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://modscape.com/zope I added Design 2. I like it much better than Design 1. I think we should work off of Design 2 Thoughts? Hey, great! I'm afraid I prefer design 1, myself. :) What do you like better about design 2? Mee too prefer design 1, version 3: http://www.modscape.com/zope/v3 -- Baiju M ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] website design discussion
On 8/23/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people think? What you said. :-) -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig
On 23 Aug 2006, at 12:57, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://modscape.com/zope I added Design 2. I like it much better than Design 1. I think we should work off of Design 2 Thoughts? My vote is for Design 1. IMHO Design 2 gives me this gut feeling of a site that wants to be overly flashy or fashionable. It looks less business-like. I perceive design 1 as cleaner, the different boxes and content areas are more delineated as well. jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig
Mark Pratt wrote: [snip] Doesn't matter what system is used but we certainly have less than before -- unless anybody considers a zope.org page with 8 pdf downloads progress. I agree we have less than before, sorry. Then again, before we had two foundation websites with diverging information, and now we have one, so that's progress. :) Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: Looks like the first design is the preferred one. Okay, let's stick with design 1 then, it appears we got a consensus about this from looking at the thread. Maybe I just liked the second because it was the most recent. You're points below are all good. I'll try to work them all into a couple of new versions and set up some sub pages as well. As far as the content in the main area I haven't really though too much about, just the general page layout really, so I'm open to any suggestions. Ill tweak the nav as well. I have to use this IE hack to get it working so I may drop fly outs all together just to be able to avoid the hack. If we go with main nav items on top and sub navs on the left we wouldnt really need the flyouts anyway. If we can get rid of the drop-down menus to try a sidebar navigation and we can avoid a hack that way as well, then that sounds good. :) Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] the zope foundation contents discussion
Hi there, We seem to be making good process on layout and technology. Now as to contents. What should the Zope Foundation website contain? Right now we have a whole bunch of PDFs, some describe rules for the foundation (bylaws, intellectual property policy), some of these are signable agreements and such for members. What we need is a text introducing the foundation and its goals. We should also provide a text describing the composition of the board and the current active committees (and who is on them). We also need to describe the present membership. We all need to fit this into a few sections. My thinking leads to the following pages: * about the foundation * introduction text * bylaws, policies * news * membership * board composition * committees (with mailing lists) * membership * join the Zope foundation! Eventually we'll also have to add pages about the Zope Management Organisation, though perhaps this simply delegates to some pages maintained by the zope developers. Overall goals of this site: * say what the Zope foundation is to anyone who wants to know * give the impression that Zope's future is well in hand with the Foundation. This is important for people promoting Zope the platform; strangers will be pointed to this website and we want to give a good first impression. * tell people want to do if they want to get involved. How to become a member, what mailing lists we're active on, etc. * allow people to see what the current status is of the foundation. * allow people to dig up the legal details about the foundation. This is just a rough sketch; there are many ways to organise this, and I'm likely missing bits. What do you think should be on the foundation pages, and how to organize things? Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] low-hanging fruit: planetzope.org to planet.zope.org?
Hi there, This would seem to be low-hanging fruit, as it already works. Right now we have planetzope.org. It'd be nice if we could put this under planet.zope.org. We seem to have two alternatives: make planet.zope.org point directly to planetzope.org by doing something DNSy, or alternatively setting up the code that runs planet.zope.org on zope.org. Michael, what kind of code is running behind planetzope.org? Where is it hosted? What would have your preference? Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] low-hanging fruit: planetzope.org to planet.zope.org?
Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, This would seem to be low-hanging fruit, as it already works. Right now we have planetzope.org. It'd be nice if we could put this under planet.zope.org. We seem to have two alternatives: make planet.zope.org point directly to planetzope.org by doing something DNSy, or alternatively setting up the code that runs planet.zope.org on zope.org. Michael, what kind of code is running behind planetzope.org? Where is it hosted? What would have your preference? It is a custom mix of unix tools, mark pilgrims feedparser module and CMF used for the frontend and storage. There are just 2 files changing at http://planetzope.org, the web representation (index_html) and the RSS file (feed_rss.xml). Easiest solution is updating an adaption of both files every hour to a location at (planet.)zope.org -- the next zope.org will likely grow its own planet solution... I'll create you a prototype for testing until the weekend. Michael -- http://zope.org/Members/d2m http://planetzope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig
Martijn Faassen wrote: I propose we use Tom Von Lahndorff's design for the foundation website. For the purposes of the foundation site we should strip it down: +lots * possibly no drop-down menus at the top. We could simply have links there, or possibly a standard left-hand side navigation. This design is the top page; we need to see a sub-page design as well. I like the dropdowns ;-) I propose letting www.zope.org/foundation point to a Apache directory, where we maintain HTML files. We will then generate such HTML files from restructured text we maintain in the zope SVN repository, using a simple script that drives docutils. +1 There's one alternative to this approach that will also work on the short term: a volunteer that's willing to work with zope.org and integrate the layout and text and structure we want into existing zope.org infrastructure. If someone volunteers to work on this, I'd be happy to do it that way as well. Does anyone volunteer? -1 comments-from-peanut-gallery-ly yours, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig
Martijn Faassen wrote: I agree we have less than before, sorry. Then again, before we had two foundation websites with diverging information, and now we have one, so that's progress. :) +1 Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[Zope] Would You Please Help With this MailBoxer Question? (fwd)
Please keep any discussion on the mailinglist. It is rude to approach ppl in private about problems that are not directly related to their contributions to the community. -aj Forwarded Message Date: 23. August 2006 09:21:59 -0400 From: beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Would You Please Help With this MailBoxer Question? Hi, Andreas; You were kind enough to respond to my question I posted to the ML concerning MailBoxer, however, I still have a question concerning it, and perhaps you missed my response. Could you help me out here? Yes, I did read the tutorial. I must misunderstand it. This is what I think it means regarding the address to send to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and I'm wrong, because my email client won't let me send it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]://202.71.106.119:7080/MailHost/manage_main.rejoice.2012.vi Can you provide me with a correct example of it? I did read the instructions. What they lack is examples for those of us less technically inclined than the author :) As far as Andreas' comment of switching to Mailman, dunno why, but Mailman requires cgi scripts, and I use Pound as reverse proxy directly to Zope, so I don't even know how to run cgi scripts, since Zope doesn't support them. That's why I googled up MailBoxer, and it looks like a good product. TIA, beno -- End Forwarded Message -- -- ZOPYX Ltd. Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany Web: www.zopyx.com - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Phone +49 - 7071 - 793376 E-Publishing, Python, Zope Plone development, Consulting pgpG0zHp6ZYSV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Stupid Question
Hi; On this page (of a Zope product): http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ there is the instruction to send an email to this address: |[EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? TIA, beno | ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] nested metal macros
Antonio Beamud Montero wrote at 2006-8-22 19:45 +0200: ... I do not understand what you precisely want to achieve. However, you could get something like the example in your original post by: * define macroB at the page level (it uses macroA) * make your former macroB a macroC and define it inside a slot. Sorry, but I don't understand this... can you give me a simple example (I think is the same I have tried before..) The only thing you may not understand is 'define macroB at the page level' (because everything else is from your example). A macro defined at the page level looks like this macroB (PageTemplate) metal:page define-macro=macroB /metal:page -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Stupid Question
--On 23. August 2006 13:38:10 -0400 beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; On this page (of a Zope product): http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ there is the instruction to send an email to this address: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? The docs say: After adding a MailBoxer (see below) you can send all your messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it so hard to understand to replace the example email address with the one you have configured for your Mailboxer? -aj -- ZOPYX Ltd. Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany Web: www.zopyx.com - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Phone +49 - 7071 - 793376 E-Publishing, Python, Zope Plone development, Consulting pgpuQ9mrpdMe5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] asp in zope
Hi, hopefully someone can help me out, I have a html form that calls an asp file stored in the root of my plone site. When i click on the submit button which calls this asp file, it returns back the asp file in text format on my ie. Is there a plugin that i need to get in order to have asp run in zope? any help would be appreciated ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] asp in zope
--On 23. August 2006 14:11:16 -0400 Siddharth Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, hopefully someone can help me out, I have a html form that calls an asp file stored in the root of my plone site. When i click on the submit button which calls this asp file, it returns back the asp file in text format on my ie. Is there a plugin that i need to get in order to have asp run in zope? any help would be appreciated Zope is neither an ASP nor a PHP nor a J2EE server. -aj pgpJtPan8hywg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Stupid Question
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 23. August 2006 13:38:10 -0400 beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; On this page (of a Zope product): http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ there is the instruction to send an email to this address: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? The docs say: After adding a MailBoxer (see below) you can send all your messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it so hard to understand to replace the example email address with the one you have configured for your Mailboxer? Well, the list is called rejoice, the Web site in question is called rejoice.2012.vi and I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It didn't work. So I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. On that one, I didn't get a bounce but I didn't show up in the Properties::maillist, either, nor did I receive a welcome message :( You wouldn't mind providing an example for me, would you? Frankly, I find the tokens yourMailHost and yourDomain rather unclear. TIA, beno ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Stupid Question
--On 23. August 2006 14:34:43 -0400 beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it so hard to understand to replace the example email address with the one you have configured for your Mailboxer? Well, the list is called rejoice, the Web site in question is called rejoice.2012.vi and I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It didn't work. So I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. On that one, I didn't get a bounce but I didn't show up in the Properties::maillist, either, nor did I receive a welcome message :( You wouldn't mind providing an example for me, would you? Frankly, I find the tokens yourMailHost and yourDomain rather unclear. Sorry but as a solution provider having customers you should know how a proper email address looks like. -aj pgpVpRbfLx6Xt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Let's Try This AGAIN::MailBoxer
I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas Jung, who responds, clogs things up, and provides no useful information. On this page (of a Zope product): http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ there is the instruction to send an email to this address: |[EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? The list is called rejoice, the Web site in question is called rejoice.2012.vi and I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It didn't work. So I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. On that one, I didn't get a bounce but I didn't show up in the Properties::maillist, either, nor did I receive a welcome message :( Frankly, I find the tokens yourMailHost and yourDomain terribly unclear. TIA, beno ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Let's Try This AGAIN::MailBoxer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23 Aug 2006, at 20:52, beno wrote: I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas Jung, who responds, clogs things up, and provides no useful information. That's because your questions show such a fundamental lack of understanding either Zope or mailing list software, and your answers prove that you don't read or understand most of the things people are telling you. It's painful, really. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFE7KaeRAx5nvEhZLIRAoh/AJ4oIc2vB0r2IfHVjKUNy2hysbJN4gCfbSqW KjoVqHFJ35MIJkj4+SSxyEo= =p53v -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas Jung AND/OR Jens Vagenpohl, who respond, clogs things up, and provide no useful information. On this page (of a Zope product): http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ there is the instruction to send an email to this address: |[EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? The list is called rejoice, the Web site in question is called rejoice.2012.vi and I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It didn't work. So I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. On that one, I didn't get a bounce but I didn't show up in the Properties::maillist, either, nor did I receive a welcome message :( Frankly, I find the tokens yourMailHost and yourDomain terribly unclear. TIA, beno ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
--On 23. August 2006 15:14:15 -0400 beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas Jung AND/OR Jens Vagenpohl, who respond, clogs things up, and provide no useful information. Could someone kick this guy from the list? We don't need such idiots here. -aj pgpsVlJGGB3A1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
+---[ beno ]-- | I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas | Jung AND/OR Jens Vagenpohl, who respond, clogs things up, and provide no | useful information. | | On this page (of a Zope product): | http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ | there is the instruction to send an email to this address: | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? Please see: RFC 2821 RFC 2822 See Also: RFC 1855 -- Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're really not going to win any friends, or get any help, with this approach. Sometimes it's the only way to get past the arrogant belligerent list subscribers who choose to make miserable the lives of those of us who ask questions they consider stupid :) And it worked, didn't it? Your question is a very basic. If you don't understand what the documentation is trying to describe you might want to read some intro-level mail-related documentation. The question appears simple. Maybe it is. Maybe, however, it only appears to be simple. I've been working in Zope for years, and have done a lot in email, actually. Additionally, when debugging it's always good to look at the appropriate logs and provide the relevant entries from those as well as error messages you received, as part of your question. A bounced message will, generally, tell you why - which can be enlightening. The mail logs on your system will provide other hints as to what's going wrong. Obviously there's an assumption that you have tried to resolve your problem based on the log/error information you've gotten. Of course. And I did that. Here's what I found: server167# grep [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/zope/instance2/log/Z2.log Nothing. Error Log (in Zope TTW interface) Nothing. Thank you for responding. Here is my question once again: On this page (of a Zope product): http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ there is the instruction to send an email to this address: |[EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? The list is called rejoice, the Web site in question is called rejoice.2012.vi and I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It didn't work. So I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. On that one, I didn't get a bounce but I didn't show up in the Properties::maillist, either, nor did I receive a welcome message :( Frankly, I find the tokens yourMailHost and yourDomain terribly unclear. TIA, beno ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
At Wednesday 23/8/2006 16:14, beno wrote: I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas Jung AND/OR Jens Vagenpohl, who respond, clogs things up, and provide no useful information. It's difficult when you not even know how an email address looks like... Try to get help from a knowledgeable person near you. Gabriel Genellina Softlab SRL __ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
+---[ beno ]-- | | Thank you for responding. Here is my question once again: Since you haven't worked out yet, I'll be explicit. Reposting your question over and over and over and over and over isn't going to get you any more responses. In fact it's more likely to piss off anyone who would be inclined to answer at all. Furthermore, the questions you're asking are; a) Not appropriate for this mailing list b) Should be addressed to the author of the product in question. If and when you have the product correctly configured, AND you get some indication from Zope that it is not functioning AND the author of said product indicates that it is a problem with Zope itself, ONLY THEN is this likely to be the correct forum for questions about a product. When you get to this stage, you will need to include the relevant errors from logs (in this case including MAIL LOGS) or otherwise. -- Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
--On 23. August 2006 16:42:06 -0300 Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Wednesday 23/8/2006 16:14, beno wrote: I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas Jung AND/OR Jens Vagenpohl, who respond, clogs things up, and provide no useful information. It's difficult when you not even know how an email address looks like... Try to get help from a knowledgeable person near you. If you work several yrs with Zope (as stated by Beno), you should know how an email address looks like. That's ridiculous. -aj pgptZHEaWB2ho.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
--On 23. August 2006 15:36:16 -0400 beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're really not going to win any friends, or get any help, with this approach. Sometimes it's the only way to get past the arrogant belligerent list subscribers who choose to make miserable the lives of those of us who ask questions they consider stupid :) And it worked, didn't it? When I look at the subject, yelling in uppercase lettersin the early 90s I learned at university that this is a clear misbehavior. I won't mention all the other violations of the good old well-known rules how to a mailinglist. Beno, you deserve the Millenium award for being the worst participant of this list ever. The triviality of your question, your unteachable manner...perhaps one last hint: don't use Zope, don't touch computers, Before posting again, first read a document like: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html -aj pgpscG0j0bj2l.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23 Aug 2006, at 21:18, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 23. August 2006 15:14:15 -0400 beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas Jung AND/OR Jens Vagenpohl, who respond, clogs things up, and provide no useful information. Could someone kick this guy from the list? We don't need such idiots here. On other lists they call people like these trolls I think. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFE7LKcRAx5nvEhZLIRAgbBAJ4xZlgWL5stJfNOZR2uuIFT/aDVoACfWAwf gfChiU7gOpW1ohR8wUbrMmE= =ez6S -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
+---[ Jens Vagelpohl ]-- | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | | On 23 Aug 2006, at 21:18, Andreas Jung wrote: | | Could someone kick this guy from the list? We don't need such | idiots here. | | On other lists they call people like these trolls I think. Trolls are people who post contraversial items for the sole purpose of eliciting responses. This guy just seems to think he's owed something from us. -- Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
--On 24. August 2006 05:59:46 +1000 Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +---[ Jens Vagelpohl ]-- | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | | On 23 Aug 2006, at 21:18, Andreas Jung wrote: | | Could someone kick this guy from the list? We don't need such | idiots here. | | On other lists they call people like these trolls I think. Trolls are people who post contraversial items for the sole purpose of eliciting responses. This guy just seems to think he's owed something from us. Trolls are persons that have the intelligence to know that they are posting trash. I doubt that in this particular case. -aj pgpDThqKqY9Zk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
beno wrote: As far as Andreas' comment of switching to Mailman, dunno why, but Mailman requires cgi scripts, and I use Pound as reverse proxy directly to Zope, Why don't you use Apache, like every other sane individual out there? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
beno wrote: Hi; The creator of this Product hasn't returned my email, so I am asking the list for help. I have done the following: Why don't you just use mailman? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope behind iis
Siddharth Sethi wrote: And i currently have no firewall running too. Sounds like you should find a mailing list for Enfold Proxy. Personally, I'd just put Apache in front of both Zope and IIS... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
Chris Withers wrote: beno wrote: As far as Andreas' comment of switching to Mailman, dunno why, but Mailman requires cgi scripts, and I use Pound as reverse proxy directly to Zope, Why don't you use Apache, like every other sane individual out there? Actually, there are a *lot* of people who *don't* use Apache! Here's why: Apache duplicates 95% of what Zope's server does, so if you're only using Zope, then it's un-elegant to use Apache. Not a good, clean solution at all! Besides, the rewrite rules you have to throw at Apache are awkward, and that's the reason why! However, Zope can't handle cgi scirpts, and Mailman uses cgi scripts. That's one reason I don't want Mailman. Furthermore, MailBoxer could be more easily integrated into Plone, because it's integrated into Zope, therefore sharing password information, etc., would be easier, and that makes MailBoxer a more logical choice. I always prefer Zope products over non-Zope products for integration purposes. Now... Will *you* answer my question? On this page (of a Zope product): http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ there is the instruction to send an email to this address: |[EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? The list is called rejoice, the Web site in question is called rejoice.2012.vi and I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It didn't work. So I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. On that one, I didn't get a bounce but I didn't show up in the Properties::maillist, either, nor did I receive a welcome message :( Frankly, I find the tokens yourMailHost and yourDomain terribly unclear. TIA, beno ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope behind iis
Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: Personally, I'd just put Apache in front of both Zope and IIS... Me too - simpler, better documented, safer. (Having seen a server wiped out via an IIS security hole, I just don't trust it on a public IP - long time ago, but once bitten, twice shy!) -- Regards, PhilK Human language continually changes, innit. - Stephen Juan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
Andrew Milton wrote: Trolls are people who post contraversial items for the sole purpose of eliciting responses. Yeah, that's me ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
Hi, beno wrote: Apache duplicates 95% of what Zope's server does, so if you're only using Zope, then it's un-elegant to use Apache. Not so - Apache is a mature production web server, Zope is an application server that serves over HTTP, but it's HTTP server is *not* designed for production use. the rewrite rules you have to throw at Apache are awkward You may think so, but they are the supported, documented solution: - http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/VirtualHosting.stx Zope can't handle cgi scirpts That is because Zope is an application server, not a web server. I find the tokens yourMailHost and yourDomain terribly unclear. I simply don't understand that. It's off topic, but here goes: - My domain is xfr.co.uk, and I have a mail host called smtp (because that is what it serves). So, the token yourMailHost refers to the mail host name and the yourDomain refers to the domain name, so to send me mail, you make an SMTP connection to smtp.xfr.co.uk. What's the problem? -- Regards, PhilK Human language continually changes, innit. - Stephen Juan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
beno wrote: I would appreciate anyone's response to this question EXCEPT Andreas Jung AND/OR Jens Vagenpohl, who respond, clogs things up, and provide no useful information. right numbnuts, you're not really getting the picture are you? Are you paying anyone on this list to help you? no? then stfu and do some hard graft work. That means actually READING the stuff people are pointing you to. If you're too stupid to understand the pointers you've been given then kindly go use some other web framework and abuse their mailing lists instead. Others have tried to be more polite than I, so you're now getting a pretty blunt explanation of how your posting habits are making people on this list feel... Feeling all victimised and singled out? Deal with it... No one else is feeling that way on here... *sigh* you still here? *sigh* Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ONE MORE TIME MAILBOXER!!!!!!!!
beno wrote: Sometimes it's the only way to get past the arrogant belligerent list subscribers who choose to make miserable the lives of those of us who ask questions they consider stupid :) And it worked, didn't it? Er, yeah, right, like you're going to understand any of the help you've been given... Arrogant? Little arrogant expecting the people on this list to bend over backwards to help you when you've done sweet f a to actually help anyone (including yourself) here... How about actually listening to the advice you've been given and using Mailman and Apache to solve the two problems you keep whining about? The question appears simple. Maybe it is. Maybe, however, it only appears to be simple. I've been working in Zope for years, and have done a lot in email, actually. You've been working with Zope for years? oh dear god... Thank you for responding. Here is my question once again: On this page (of a Zope product): http://iungo.org/products/MailBoxer/ there is the instruction to send an email to this address: |[EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly does that mean? Can someone give me an example? The list is called rejoice, the Web site in question is called rejoice.2012.vi and I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It didn't work. So I tried this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. On that one, I didn't get a bounce but I didn't show up in the Properties::maillist, either, nor did I receive a welcome message :( Frankly, I find the tokens yourMailHost and yourDomain terribly unclear. Wow, like we didn't get it the first time. Hey! A Subject line with CAPS, I better drop all my work and tell my customers to get lost for the day 'cos I need to help you NOW, dammit... *sigh* Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
beno wrote: Chris Withers wrote: beno wrote: As far as Andreas' comment of switching to Mailman, dunno why, but Mailman requires cgi scripts, and I use Pound as reverse proxy directly to Zope, Why don't you use Apache, like every other sane individual out there? Actually, there are a *lot* of people who *don't* use Apache! What? There are more of you? As I said before: dear god no! Here's why: Apache duplicates 95% of what Zope's server does, You really have absolutely no clue do you? so if you're only using Zope, then it's un-elegant to use Apache. ...much like your english. The word you're looking for in inelegant: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=inelegant Not a good, clean solution at all! Say it again sam, it's still bollocks... Besides, the rewrite rules you have to throw at Apache are awkward, ?! (I'm speachless, and that doesn't happen often...) and that's the reason why! However, Zope can't handle cgi scirpts, ...or even cgi scripts, no matter how much clueless eejets like yourself keep trying to ram than pesky square peg into the funny round shaped hole. and Mailman uses cgi scripts. A P A C H E That's one reason I don't want Mailman. numpty. Furthermore, MailBoxer could be more easily integrated into Plone, Hahaha... you said the P word... Will *you* answer my question? In a word: no. Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: numpty. That is /such/ a great word! -- Regards, PhilK Human language continually changes, innit. - Stephen Juan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
Philip Kilner wrote: Chris Withers wrote: numpty. That is /such/ a great word! My thanks to Tim Penhey for re-introducing me to it :-) *grinz* Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
- Original Message - From: Philip Kilner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: numpty. That is /such/ a great word! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=numpty Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: numpty. That is /such/ a great word! My thanks to Tim Penhey for re-introducing me to it :-) First said to me by a distressed Scots techie - Is that guy a numpty, or what?, and I hear it in my head in a Scots accent to this day. UrbanDictionary.com has great examples, and tells us that it is indeed Scots... -- Regards, PhilK Human language continually changes, innit. - Stephen Juan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
- Original Message - From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question Philip Kilner wrote: Chris Withers wrote: numpty. That is /such/ a great word! My thanks to Tim Penhey for re-introducing me to it :-) *grinz* P.S. Quite a propos in this particular instance. Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
Jonathan wrote: P.S. Quite a propos in this particular instance. Especially the 2nd definition... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question
Philip Kilner wrote: Hi, beno wrote: Apache duplicates 95% of what Zope's server does, so if you're only using Zope, then it's un-elegant to use Apache. Not so - Apache is a mature production web server, Zope is an application server that serves over HTTP, but it's HTTP server is *not* designed for production use. the rewrite rules you have to throw at Apache are awkward You may think so, but they are the supported, documented solution: - http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/VirtualHosting.stx Zope can't handle cgi scirpts That is because Zope is an application server, not a web server. I find the tokens "yourMailHost" and "yourDomain" terribly unclear. I simply don't understand that. It's off topic, but here goes: - My domain is "xfr.co.uk", and I have a mail host called "smtp" (because that is what it serves). So, the token "yourMailHost" refers to the mail host name and the "yourDomain" refers to the domain name, so to send me mail, you make an SMTP connection to "smtp.xfr.co.uk". What's the problem? hang in there beno. You've been baptised. david ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
