[Zope-dev] Re: [zope.testing.doctest] a nasty surprise
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:50:35 -0400, Benji York wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: As the community (apparently) strongly favors doctest over unittest, I wrote my first test based on zope.testing.doctest. And promptly, I was badly surprised In order to analyse a difficult problem, I added from dm.pdb import zpdb; zpdb.set_trace() in the doctest (dm.pdb.zpdb is my Zope aware PDB extension) The standard PDB works fine. I'm sure you're extended version can be tweaked to as well. I have similar issues with ipdb. - similar in sense that I cannot use it when running from doctests. ipdb is a lightweight component that enables entering ipython when import ipdb; ipdb.set_trace() is called. Those of you that use ipython and also develop with doctests a lot, will understand why it would be a nice to have also from doctests. In case of ipdb I had no parameters problem like Dieter encountered with zpdb, however I observed that the doctest runner needs to redirect input and output while running tests, which are specifically routed back to stdin and stdout while pdb.set_trace is entered, to enable interactivity. This is done by monkeypatching pdb if I remember well. But the same does not happen with ipdb, of course. So, my conclusion is that while doctests work well with the standard pdb, any alternate debugger must be supported explicitely (by changing the doctest code). As with ipdb, this may be the case with zpdb as well. Best wishes -- Balazs Ree ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
Martijn Faassen wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 10. April 2008 19:10:49 +0200 Brian Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just adding my few requirements: - Integration into the component architecture in such a way that I can specify the db connection parameters in ZCML and that database reflection still works. I want to be able to get a handle on SQLAlchemy things by calling getUtility. Please *NO* database specific configurations within ZCML. We're running applications in up three or four different environments and I don't want to maintain instance specific configurations within ZCML. Either we pass such informations through environment variables or the database connections parameters are read from a configuration within the instance configuration. As long as it can also be specified in the code, that way people can build UIs to set up the connection. Perhaps that's what you mean by a configuration within the instance configuration. The way I use collective.lead in my book is to have it look up the database settings in a local utility. That utility is editable via a control panel page in Plone. I suspect that it'd be quite easy to do something similar where the settings were deferred to a global utility configured with ZCML or looked up in a config file of some sort. Once the config is available, it's all about calling getUtility() to get hold of a database connection/session. Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 05:07:56AM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 10. April 2008 21:29:43 +0200 Brian Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What defines if something is the instance configuration? Isn't ZCML just another format of configuration file? I agree it's evil to hardcode database connections in the application as they must be under the control of the sysadmin. But that doesn't preclude them from being expressed in zcml. The point is: we don't need yet another configuration language for the configuration of a site. ZCML should be used for the purpose it has been intended for: for the configuration of the components of your site (easily spoken). This kind of configuration is static if you setup a site for project X. But settings like ports, paths etc. often differ between dev, test and production environments. We already have ZConfig as standard cofniguration language for instance specific configuration aspects. In addition: we often do use environment variables and .ini files for additional configurations. Introducing another configuration language is stupid. Especially because system administrators or co-workers know little or nothing about ZCML. This is an unnecessary introduction of complexity. Setting an environment variable with a DSN is much easier then having to fiddle around with ZCML and XML...totally unnecessary overheadkeep it simple ...using ZCML in this configuration context is only for XML masochists. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem an option, right now, to avoid using ZCML to setup database connections. So I'm not sure how you want to implement your ideas? In general, I think if you want your configuration expressed in ZConfig and available as a utility, you have a problem. I'm not sure of: * How do I register a utility in ZConfig? * How will the above registration work properly in functional tests (especially with tearing down and setting up layers)? -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Apr 10 11:00:00 2008 UTC to Fri Apr 11 11:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 10 20:57:43 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-April/009385.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 10 20:59:14 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-April/009386.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 10 21:00:44 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-April/009387.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 10 21:02:14 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-April/009388.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 10 21:03:44 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-April/009389.html ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
--On 11. April 2008 10:09:16 +0200 Brian Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 05:07:56AM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 10. April 2008 21:29:43 +0200 Brian Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What defines if something is the instance configuration? Isn't ZCML just another format of configuration file? I agree it's evil to hardcode database connections in the application as they must be under the control of the sysadmin. But that doesn't preclude them from being expressed in zcml. The point is: we don't need yet another configuration language for the configuration of a site. ZCML should be used for the purpose it has been intended for: for the configuration of the components of your site (easily spoken). This kind of configuration is static if you setup a site for project X. But settings like ports, paths etc. often differ between dev, test and production environments. We already have ZConfig as standard cofniguration language for instance specific configuration aspects. In addition: we often do use environment variables and .ini files for additional configurations. Introducing another configuration language is stupid. Especially because system administrators or co-workers know little or nothing about ZCML. This is an unnecessary introduction of complexity. Setting an environment variable with a DSN is much easier then having to fiddle around with ZCML and XML...totally unnecessary overheadkeep it simple ...using ZCML in this configuration context is only for XML masochists. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem an option, right now, to avoid using ZCML to setup database connections. So I'm not sure how you want to implement your ideas? I have no need for ideas to be implemented. We're using SA within in several large projects based on z3c.sqlalchemy. And nothing beats the simplicity of of an .ini file or an environment variable. In general, I think if you want your configuration expressed in ZConfig and available as a utility, you have a problem. I'm not sure of: * How do I register a utility in ZConfig? z3c.sqlalchemy provides a method for registering a SA connection as a named utility. This code is usually called during the startup phase of Zope within the related initialize() methds of our products. The DSN are acquired from well-known environment variables...this just works - easy, simple, reliable. * How will the above registration work properly in functional tests (especially with tearing down and setting up layers)? Functional tests in our company are tests done by humans. Why? Our applications are very complex with lots of dependencies. Not speaking of lots of involved databases, big storages.. Andreas pgp98vhOQjdEm.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
--On 11. April 2008 08:36:43 +0100 Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 10. April 2008 19:10:49 +0200 Brian Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just adding my few requirements: - Integration into the component architecture in such a way that I can specify the db connection parameters in ZCML and that database reflection still works. I want to be able to get a handle on SQLAlchemy things by calling getUtility. Please *NO* database specific configurations within ZCML. We're running applications in up three or four different environments and I don't want to maintain instance specific configurations within ZCML. Either we pass such informations through environment variables or the database connections parameters are read from a configuration within the instance configuration. As long as it can also be specified in the code, that way people can build UIs to set up the connection. Perhaps that's what you mean by a configuration within the instance configuration. The way I use collective.lead in my book is to have it look up the database settings in a local utility. That utility is editable via a control panel page in Plone. I suspect that it'd be quite easy to do something similar where the settings were deferred to a global utility configured with ZCML or looked up in a config file of some sort. Once the config is available, it's all about calling getUtility() to get hold of a database connection/session. Possibly a sane and clean solution but way of over-designed. I am interested in simple and robust solutions that work and not in a solution that adds more and more unnecessary layers just the sake of having them :-) Andreas pgpZS98rSgYnq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
Andreas Jung lists at zopyx.com writes: The way I use collective.lead in my book is to have it look up the database settings in a local utility. That utility is editable via a control panel page in Plone. I suspect that it'd be quite easy to do something similar where the settings were deferred to a global utility configured with ZCML or looked up in a config file of some sort. Once the config is available, it's all about calling getUtility() to get hold of a database connection/session. Possibly a sane and clean solution but way of over-designed. I am interested in simple and robust solutions that work and not in a solution that adds more and more unnecessary layers just the sake of having them collective.lead doesn't enforce this style at all. If you want TTW configurable connections, though, it's a good pattern to use. All collective.lead does is: - Set up database connections and engines properly - Hook into transaction machinery so you don't need to do your own transaction management - Let you look up a database session/connection as a utility You need to register that utility, of course. Lead has a base class that means you just fill in a few template methods (database url, and some callbacks for configuring tables and orm classes). If you want some kind of config-file based or ZCML based version, you'd just construct an appropriate class and register it as a utility on startup. Lead doesn't want to enforce one particular connection parameter configuration model or config file format. That should be the job of a higher level package that is concerned only with getting these parameters, not with the database setup itself. However, you probably still need some imperative code to set up the tables and mappers. Martin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
Brian Sutherland wrote: [snip] Unfortunately, it doesn't seem an option, right now, to avoid using ZCML to setup database connections. So I'm not sure how you want to implement your ideas? collective.lead can do it without ZCML; you set up the right connection by implementing a 'url' property on a (global) utility. This to me seems to be flexible, as the code could get the connection from anywhere. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
Andreas Jung wrote: [snip] Possibly a sane and clean solution but way of over-designed. I am interested in simple and robust solutions that work and not in a solution that adds more and more unnecessary layers just the sake of having them :-) It's a 1 liner to set up the connection in this story if you want to hard-code it in Python, and by implementing it as a property, you can get the connection string from any place you want, including environment variables or whatever else your Python code can get to. This cuts the whole debate about where the connection string should come from short, as you can code whatever you want yourself. This has an example of the utility setup: http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2008/04/08/0 Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
Brian Sutherland schreef: Unfortunately, it doesn't seem an option, right now, to avoid using ZCML to setup database connections. So I'm not sure how you want to implement your ideas? Something we did for an LDAP connection that needed the same kind of server-dependent config: put an ldapconfig.py file in zope's etc/ dir and load that if available from the code that configures ldap. Not the best of solutions, probably, but it worked. What I wanted to say: this *is* a way to avoid using zcml! Reinout -- Reinout van Rees Blog: http://vanrees.org/weblog/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://zestsoftware.nl/ http://vanrees.org Video: http://reinout.blip.tv/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: What happened to the infrae.subversion and py eggs?
Wichert Akkerman schreef: Previously Reinout van Rees wrote: Tres Seaver schreef: Daniel Nouri wrote: 1.0dev-r27844 seems to be gone from PyPI. Such a version should *never* have been released to PyPI (any egg / source dist with an SVN revision number in its filename is *not* suitable for sharing with the wider world). I've made it a habit *not* to enable the option in setup.cfg that adds those svn revision numbers to the version. It is enabled by default in all/most of the ZopeSkel-generated packages that I use. I recently started adding that option again for some of my projects. For a few frequently updated sites I do a lot of updates installs without making full releases and it is extremely convenient to be able to see which exact revision number I'm currently using. Those are probably private and not on pypi, I guess? Or do you do that for a few pypi'ed packages, too? I basically don't trust myself enough to enable it for public packages :-) Reinout -- Reinout van Rees Blog: http://vanrees.org/weblog/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://zestsoftware.nl/ http://vanrees.org Video: http://reinout.blip.tv/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
On 11.04.2008, at 10:09, Brian Sutherland wrote: Unfortunately, it doesn't seem an option, right now, to avoid using ZCML to setup database connections. So I'm not sure how you want to implement your ideas? +1 k, i didn't read the whole thread, but we (lovely systems) use zope.storm but i think its the same story somehow and we do all instance specific configuration in zcml - also database uris. we have a base.zcml config for all instances and include this it and do all instance specific configuration in an instance specific zcml file. this file is then used with the site-definition otpion in zope.conf. i can see no reason why we should avoid zcml except in environments where there is no zcml at all. although it is a few lines of code to get db uris from somewhere else, and this could also be application code regards, bernd smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What happened to the infrae.subversion and py eggs?
Previously Reinout van Rees wrote: Wichert Akkerman schreef: Previously Reinout van Rees wrote: Tres Seaver schreef: Daniel Nouri wrote: 1.0dev-r27844 seems to be gone from PyPI. Such a version should *never* have been released to PyPI (any egg / source dist with an SVN revision number in its filename is *not* suitable for sharing with the wider world). I've made it a habit *not* to enable the option in setup.cfg that adds those svn revision numbers to the version. It is enabled by default in all/most of the ZopeSkel-generated packages that I use. I recently started adding that option again for some of my projects. For a few frequently updated sites I do a lot of updates installs without making full releases and it is extremely convenient to be able to see which exact revision number I'm currently using. Those are probably private and not on pypi, I guess? Or do you do that for a few pypi'ed packages, too? I basically don't trust myself enough to enable it for public packages :-) I do that frequently for packages which are also on pypi. We do it for all plone.* and plone.app.* packages for example. I just don't upload those dev revisions to pypi. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [zope.testing.doctest] a nasty surprise
Balazs Ree wrote at 2008-4-11 09:19 +0200: ... In order to analyse a difficult problem, I added from dm.pdb import zpdb; zpdb.set_trace() in the doctest (dm.pdb.zpdb is my Zope aware PDB extension) The standard PDB works fine. I'm sure you're extended version can be tweaked to as well. I have similar issues with ipdb. - similar in sense that I cannot use it when running from doctests. Any any other debugger, too, will have problems. Usually, I am no fan of explicit is better than implicit. But, in this case, I think it would give a much better solution. Apparently, the debugger integration works by wrapping some class (_OutputRedirectingPdb) around a given debugger and then use this debugger instead of the wrapped on. How about documenting this wrapping class. Then any debugger author can use the class to wrap his debugger and use it. For this special case, we do not need monkey patching. import myWrappedDebugger; myWrappedDebugger.set_trace() (or for the standard debugger: from zope.testing import pdb; pdb.set_trace()) is only slightly more complex than import pdb; pdb.set_trace() -- Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
Bernd Dorn wrote: [whether configuration should be in ZCML] although it is a few lines of code to get db uris from somewhere else, and this could also be application code. I'm not against ZCML, as long as those lines of code to get the db URI from application code also exist. A good API to configure things without ZCML is necessary (that the ZCML can then turn around and use - this is a good way to create ZCML directives anyway). A nice thing about collective.lead is that it doesn't introduce custom ZCML directives, so in Grok, using it means there's no ZCML at all and no need to write any grokkers for it either. If it did introduce custom directives to do the same thing, that's fine, as long the original way isn't damaged by it. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
On Friday 11 April 2008, Bernd Dorn wrote: although it is a few lines of code to get db uris from somewhere else, and this could also be application code if you use paster, you can stick options into your pater ini script. We are currently doing this for a setting in our app. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. Zope Stephan Richter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: straighting out the SQLAlchemy integration mess
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:21:45PM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: Unfortunately, it doesn't seem an option, right now, to avoid using ZCML to setup database connections. So I'm not sure how you want to implement your ideas? I have no need for ideas to be implemented. We're using SA within in several large projects based on z3c.sqlalchemy. And nothing beats the simplicity of of an .ini file or an environment variable. I see. I suppose you could also write a zcml declaration to pluck out the database config from an environment variable and register a utility. In general, I think if you want your configuration expressed in ZConfig and available as a utility, you have a problem. I'm not sure of: * How do I register a utility in ZConfig? z3c.sqlalchemy provides a method for registering a SA connection as a named utility. This code is usually called during the startup phase of Zope within the related initialize() methds of our products. The DSN are acquired from well-known environment variables...this just works - easy, simple, reliable. * How will the above registration work properly in functional tests (especially with tearing down and setting up layers)? Functional tests in our company are tests done by humans. Why? Our applications are very complex with lots of dependencies. Not speaking of lots of involved databases, big storages.. I try do what I can... which is relatively minimal. At least some components are thoroughly tested with the parts of the db schema they depend on. -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[ZWeb] zope.org member registration temporary disabled
FYI, i've just disabled the member registration on zope.org. This is a temporary measure against the current creation of arbitray accounts. I'll open registration after the weekend again, lets hope the spammers have moved on then. If you realy need an account now, drop me a mail. Michael -- http://www.zope.org/Members/d2m http:/planetzope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [Zope] Re: i18n/L10n support in zope2
Maurits van Rees wrote: After making change and updating sample page template - (English as primary language for both browsers) html body English - span i18n:domain=English i18n:translate= Reload this catalog /span br German - span i18n:domain=Germany i18n:translate= Reload this catalog /span br Czech - span i18n:domain=Czech i18n:translate= Reload this catalog /span br /body /html Huh? You now state languages in the i18n domain. Don't you mean to make this three times the same domain and then perhaps add the i18n:target en/de/cs? Yes..using i18n:target (not in Zope 2.9.7 at least as no support there :) ) with single domain can be much better approach. But honestly I am just beginner in this i18n/L10n arena, so need to work on i18n/L10n rules/standards. Thank you, Harshad. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: the grand reunion
Yuri wrote: Hi! Hi Yuri, [..] I would like to have an easy way to develop without having to be subject to dependencies from other envinroment, minimize the effort to mantain it and focus on doing things :) Maybe not exactly what you are asking for but I recommend you play with buildout a bit - I'm sure you'll appreciate the ease with which you can manage independent installations in a repeatable and easily modifiable way. Is one big zope installation, with multiple instances, well suited for this tasks? Or is better different zope versions? What about the various Data.fs, is better to have them separated by application or by zope envinroment? I mean all the Plone in a single Data.fs or each one in a separated Data.fs? Without further knowing how these sites might be related or not this is hard to answer but often times I prefer to have separate Zope instances (- different ZODBs) for different Plone sites. Even if they share substantial configuration/add-ons etc. Again, using buildout makes it a snap to create and maintain as many Zope instances as you want. And using a common buildout cache they can also mostly share the basic installation. Just my 2 cents, Raphael So, what is the best approach to migrate the three servers? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Conditional dtml-boundary in dtml-sendmail
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: How is dtml more error-prone than python? I'd imagine that all depends on who's authoring it. In this particular example, python's email package has a very OO approach to generating emails. The DTML approach relies on you remembering to put in the right statements for the right constituent email parts in the right places. It's easy to make mistakes and generate emails that won't work with most clients. It's also harder to generate emails with the correct headers (Date, Message-ID, etc) than it should be, so you're more likely to pump out email that mtas consider to be spam. The DTML approach also makes attaching files a living hell... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ExternalMethod - add new parameter
rishi pathak wrote: We have a portal using which users use our compute resources. In zope we use NIS authentication for validating a user.We have many things that requires root/logged in user privledeges.One example is of a 'file system explorer'.In this I have used ZFSpath product.This explorer is used by users to navigate through their home areas and select what ever file they want.As of now I have changed some functions of ZFSpath class which I was using so that they can be executed as the logged in user(since zope does not have rwx permissions on other user's directory).This is just one case.Hope I have cleared myself well. You are playing a mind numbingly dangerous game. Good luck to you, but I hope people on this list refrain from further helping you point that large canon at your left toe... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ExternalMethod - add new parameter
hi again, Let me clarify what I am doing and what is my approach till now. We have a portal using which users use our compute resources. In zope we use NIS authentication for validating a user.We have many things that requires root/logged in user privledeges.One example is of a 'file system explorer'.In this I have used ZFSpath product.This explorer is used by users to navigate through their home areas and select what ever file they want.As of now I have changed some functions of ZFSpath class which I was using so that they can be executed as the logged in user(since zope does not have rwx permissions on other user's directory).This is just one case.Hope I have cleared myself well. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rishi pathak wrote at 2008-4-8 18:03 +0530: I dont have a need to run all the external method as root, only some of them. I did understand this *BUT* you do not have a choice. While a single ExternalMethod runs as root, the complete Zope process runs as root -- and this applies to all requests which are run in parallel with your ExternalMethod. Please reread my former message. If you have touble to understand the terms thread and/or process, consult Wikipedia to get some insight. ... On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rishi pathak wrote at 2008-4-7 17:46 +0530: There is a requirement for running some external methods as super user. For this I thought of adding a new parameter.If set the code would be executed with effective uid of root. This is extremely dangerous. To run code as super user, you need to change the effective user id. Changing the effective user id affects the whole process -- not just the thread executing your external method. These things are very difficult to handle in a multi threaded environment, in general. Moreover, running internet driven code uncontrolled as super user is likely to be a big security risk. Let your application write some command to a queue and process the queue asynchronously. The processing can be performed as super user. If this is not possible, let your application communicate with another process which runs as super user -- and pass on synchronous commands from your application to this process. In both cases, it is ensured that only the restricted command set can be used to run something as super user -- and not some arbitrary code -- Dieter -- Regards-- Rishi Pathak ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Conditional dtml-boundary in dtml-sendmail
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: The email library should be available to use with a Script (Python) and can be done all within the ZMI. Yes, I wish it was. I believe that was one of the things I did in the MailTemplates product: just make the standard python email package bits available in Zope protected code. Still, if Josef can't get products installed, he's limited to a world of suck when it comes to email :-( cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] the grand reunion
Hi! Actually I've two Plone working envinronment and one zope, each in a different machine: - one, with two zope 2.9 istances (one for developing), running both multiple Plone 2.5 instances - one, with zope 2.9, running multiple Plone 2.5 instances - one, with zope 2.7.9, running zope only applications We have bought big iron hardware now, where I can do almost everything (with a fiber channel network storage, multiple rack servers). tipically, I use one instance to develop, and one to deploy. This mean different zope instances which shares only the base, and having different products. I would like to have an easy way to develop without having to be subject to dependencies from other envinroment, minimize the effort to mantain it and focus on doing things :) Is one big zope installation, with multiple instances, well suited for this tasks? Or is better different zope versions? What about the various Data.fs, is better to have them separated by application or by zope envinroment? I mean all the Plone in a single Data.fs or each one in a separated Data.fs? So, what is the best approach to migrate the three servers? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
- Original Message - From: Wes Modes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:04 AM Subject: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable I upgraded to Zope 2.7.2 and all of my content can't be seen by Zope. Honestly I'm not sure what the previous version I was running was (nor am I sure how to find out). Now, every page results in Site Error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. Resource not found Sorry, the requested resource does not exist. Check the URL and try again. Resource: Zope GET What version of zope did you upgrade from? What happens when you try to access any of the problem objects via the ZMI? Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Help writing test where bobobase_modification_time changes
Thanks for the tips Chris and Dieter, I actually solved it in a very simple way: from OFS.Image import File from time import time class MockFile(File): This file works the same as a normal File expect that in manage_edit() the internal modification time is set immediately. Normally Zope objects get their internal modification set when the transaction manager commits. def manage_edit(self, title, content_type, precondition='', filedata=None, REQUEST=None): # here's the mock hack, we set the _p_mtime NOW instead of letting # the transaction manager do it at the end. self._p_mtime = time() return File.manage_edit(self, title, content_type, precondition=precondition, filedata=filedata, REQUEST=REQUEST) This worked beautifully in the integration test. I'm happy. On 10/04/2008, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Bengtsson wrote: How can I solve this? Make one big transaction two without having to use transaction.get().commit() which I don't think I can use in unit tests as per Dieter's advice. I'd suggest monkeypatching bobobase_modification_time on the objects you're testing with. You're testing your cache code, not the implementation of those objects, so replacing them with (partially) dummy objects is great for avoiding this kind of problem and is a pattern I've used frequently... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Conditional dtml-boundary in dtml-sendmail
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: How is dtml more error-prone than python? I'd imagine that all depends on who's authoring it. In this particular example, python's email package has a very OO approach to generating emails. Yes, that's what I hate from the dtml thing; it looks ugly :-( The DTML approach relies on you remembering to put in the right statements for the right constituent email parts in the right places. It's easy to make mistakes and generate emails that won't work with most clients. It's also harder to generate emails with the correct headers (Date, Message-ID, etc) than it should be, so you're more likely to pump out email that mtas consider to be spam. Actually, I did several mistakes: first, if you include a blank line just after finishing defining the email settings, ie: To, From, Content-Type, etc, you will get your email, but in a format that you can't read. The second problem was with the unicode: first I got the characters wrong on the email subject, but on the mail's body were ok, then I change something and got them good on the subject, but on the body non-ascii characters were dropped. After lots of testing, I finally saw that you have to define content-type everywhere: on the mail headers and also on the text-mime contents. Then you have to encode all your strings to utf-8. The DTML approach also makes attaching files a living hell... Yep, I agree on this. You can't dynamically set the number of attachments and even if you don't submit a file on your form, zope will send an empty file with a strange name. Well, I guess I will do an external method on my own server and then try to convince the people owning the machine where the page is hosted to include it. Otherwise, my last resouce would be to embebbed the content on a iframe or call an external link to my server. Thanks anyways for your replies. Best regards Josef ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
And do you see any errors when starting zope with zopectl fg ? (or do you see any errors in the log/event.log file?) - Original Message - From: Wes Modes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:04 AM Subject: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable I upgraded to Zope 2.7.2 and all of my content can't be seen by Zope. Honestly I'm not sure what the previous version I was running was (nor am I sure how to find out). Now, every page results in Site Error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. Resource not found Sorry, the requested resource does not exist. Check the URL and try again. Resource: Zope GET What version of zope did you upgrade from? What happens when you try to access any of the problem objects via the ZMI? Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Martijn Jacobs Four Digits, Internet Solutions a: Willemsplein 15-1 6811 KB Arnhem NL kvk: 09162137 | btw: 8161.22.234.B01 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | web: http://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 (0)26 44 22 700 | fax: +31 (0)84 22 06 117 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Conditional dtml-boundary in dtml-sendmail
The email library should be available to use with a Script (Python) and
can be done all within the ZMI. Otherwise maybe use dtml-try?
Well, I should have mentioned this: the zope installed on the server is
2.8.x. Yes, it is old, but it is because all the page uses an own CMS
based on silva, which isn't compatible with newer versions.
I tried this:
import email
and it worked; however, as soon as I tried this:
from email.MIMEText import MIMEText
msg = MIMEText('Sending mail through python module')
or
import email
msg = email.MIMEText.MIMEText('Sending mail through python module')
An Unauthorized exception comes. So, I guess MIMEText is protected at
least on 2.8.x. But I guess in 2.11.x is protected as well, or am I
wrong?
Thanks for your reply. I guess there is no way of achieving what I want
on dtml, so, I will try to do it an external method and try to convince
people there to store it on the server or I will have to do it on my
own server and embebbed it on an iframe or call an external link.
Best regards
Josef
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[Zope] Re: [Plone-developers] the grand reunion
hi yuri, when setting up a zope/zeo task and everything was still a bit of a challenge (at least to me) we tended to have everything in one big instance that served some 20 low traffic sites. since then setting up a site with all the tools it needs has become a trivially easy and quick to execute task. we have converted nearly all these sites to have their own instance. I would not do it differently anymore .. robert Yuri schrieb: Hi! Actually I've two Plone working envinronment and one zope, each in a different machine: - one, with two zope 2.9 istances (one for developing), running both multiple Plone 2.5 instances - one, with zope 2.9, running multiple Plone 2.5 instances - one, with zope 2.7.9, running zope only applications We have bought big iron hardware now, where I can do almost everything (with a fiber channel network storage, multiple rack servers). tipically, I use one instance to develop, and one to deploy. This mean different zope instances which shares only the base, and having different products. I would like to have an easy way to develop without having to be subject to dependencies from other envinroment, minimize the effort to mantain it and focus on doing things :) Is one big zope installation, with multiple instances, well suited for this tasks? Or is better different zope versions? What about the various Data.fs, is better to have them separated by application or by zope envinroment? I mean all the Plone in a single Data.fs or each one in a separated Data.fs? So, what is the best approach to migrate the three servers? - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Plone-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] retrieving a single column from database and giving it as hyper link fetching respective data
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:02, member madhangc wrote: Dear all, I'm developing a biological database using Zope 2.6 and pgsql. Let me explain my issue with an example. There is a menu called Drug in my homepage, by clicking the menu the drug names along with their type in two different columns get displayed in the body. I can do things till that. My problem is , lets say there is a link called Isoniazid with all other links(drug names) in it. When a user clicks one of the links as i said before as isoniazid only the information about isoniazid has to be retreived and displayed , likewise to all the other drug links. I have no idea how to capture the click event and the data to be retrieved. Can someone help. Thanks in advance. From your description I can't tell if you are already populating the two column page from a database or if it is a static html page. If I understand your issue correctly you can do all this with your database. You may have to add more columns to provide the interaction you need. I have a similar situation with a three column subjects page where clicking on each subject brings up a page with a list of online databases and descriptions for each. Within each description is a link to the online database. Again, if I understand your issue, have your two column page be created from a db that contains the a record number and the drug name. That template can build a link based on the record number to another template and the second template would query the database for a description field or whatever. so the first page would build its contents sorta like this. dtml-in get_drug _names a href=http:/link/to/my/description/template/?my_recnum=dtml-var drug_name_recnumdtml-var my_drug_name/a /dtml-in same thing can be done in pagetemplates. You can see my example at http://www.library.appstate.edu/vdb/subjectgeneral05.html The list of subjects comes from a database and there are three select statements to make the three columns, select the first third, second third, and then the last third and use css. Each subject link to another template that selects data from the main table based on subject table's related field. And, on that second page you can narrow down the results by media type such as book, newspaper, audio, etc. which is a field in the database title table. Let me know if I misinterpreted your request, as I get older this becomes more frequent ;-) And another query, how can i select text from a dropdown box. I just need the data which is selected in the dropdown box and sent as query. Thanks again. If you click on a letter at the top you will see a list box on the right which uses a javascript called jumpmenu and OnChange which should work or be close to what you want. There is not an action attribute for the list box and no button, the Javascript takes care of it. Thomas -- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Operations Systems AnalystP O Box 32026 University Library Boone, North Carolina 28608 (828) 262 6587 ... using OpenOffice.org, and save them back to disk automatically, in MS Word format. They surf the Web, check e-mail, do instant messsaging, view YouTube videos, visit their Facebook pages, learn touch-typing skills and lots more. Our public library has been offering these Linux public stations for the past three years. - Phil Shapiro Linux Journal January 2008 Library Systems Help Desk: https://www.library.appstate.edu/help/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Critical system hosed (was: Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable)
Nope. No errors, with zopectl or in event.log. Starts happily, though clearly not pointing at my old content. Though it would seem /var/lib/zope/etc/zope.conf has the following correctly defined: %define INSTANCE /var/lib/zope %define ZOPE /usr/lib/zope instancehome $INSTANCE And my data files appear to be at /var/lib/zope/var/Data.fs with appropriate permissions and ownership. The file hasn't been touched since the time I did the upgrade, though the lock file in the same directory has. Still though, I get the Resource not found screen from every page I attempt to access. The university library relies on zope, so getting this fixed is the highest priority. As for why version 2.7.2? Well, I didn't intend to update at all, but an errant up2date, the RHEL rpm updater, did it for me. And since the previous sysadmin built it from source and possibly put some things in non-standard places, disaster strikes. And 2.7.2 was apparently the highest version for which rpms were available. I am concerned that an upgrade to the latest version would take days (maybe weeks) of work to reconcile differences, and resolve problems and dependencies. And worse case, it might never see all our zope data again. The highest priority here is to get it working ASAP. W. Martijn Jacobs wrote: And do you see any errors when starting zope with zopectl fg ? (or do you see any errors in the log/event.log file?) - Original Message - From: Wes Modes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:04 AM Subject: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable I upgraded to Zope 2.7.2 and all of my content can't be seen by Zope. Honestly I'm not sure what the previous version I was running was (nor am I sure how to find out). Now, every page results in Site Error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. Resource not found Sorry, the requested resource does not exist. Check the URL and try again. Resource: Zope GET What version of zope did you upgrade from? What happens when you try to access any of the problem objects via the ZMI? Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Wes Modes Server Administrator Programmer Analyst McHenry Library Computing Network Services Information and Technology Services 459-5208 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
- Original Message - From: Wes Modes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable Jonathan, thanks for writing. Please pardon my zope ignorance. What happens when you try to access any of the problem objects via the ZMI? How would I do this? Wes You typically access the Zope Management Interface (ZMI) by going the url for your zope-based web site with '/manage'. eg. www.myzopesite.com/manage You will then be asked for a username and password (if you don't have this information, you need to use the 'emergency user' - google for 'zope emergency user'). You may also want to look at the Zope Book... http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition - i don't know if this is the most recent version, but it is a good starting point. Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
Wes Modes wrote at 2008-4-10 21:04 -0700:
I upgraded to Zope 2.7.2 and all of my content can't be seen by Zope.
Honestly I'm not sure what the previous version I was running was (nor
am I sure how to find out).
Now, every page results in
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Resource not found
Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.
Check the URL and try again.
Resource: Zope GET
Difficult problems can be analyzed in interactive Python
sessions.
Under *nix, you start such a session with bin/zopectl debug
(under Windows, this does not work but there are alternatives).
from request import getRequest
request = getRequest()
obj = request.traverse('pathpart_of_your_url')
obj()
If authentication is required, you use
from request import getAuthRequest
request = getAuthRequest(user, password)
If there are problems, you use pdb.pm() (or dm.pdb.zpbd.pm()
for better Zope support) to analyse them.
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Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
Dieter Maurer wrote at 2008-4-11 19:13 +0200:
Wes Modes wrote at 2008-4-10 21:04 -0700:
I upgraded to Zope 2.7.2 and all of my content can't be seen by Zope.
Honestly I'm not sure what the previous version I was running was (nor
am I sure how to find out).
Now, every page results in
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Resource not found
Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.
Check the URL and try again.
Resource: Zope GET
Difficult problems can be analyzed in interactive Python
sessions.
Under *nix, you start such a session with bin/zopectl debug
(under Windows, this does not work but there are alternatives).
from request import getRequest
request = getRequest()
obj = request.traverse('pathpart_of_your_url')
obj()
If authentication is required, you use
from request import getAuthRequest
request = getAuthRequest(user, password)
If there are problems, you use pdb.pm() (or dm.pdb.zpbd.pm()
for better Zope support) to analyse them.
I forgot. You can download request.py from
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/request.py
In order to get rid of a deprecation warning, you must replace Zope
with Zope2.
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Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
Yeah, so when I said all content, I really meant it. There is nothing through the web interface that does not result in *Site Error * An error was encountered while publishing this resource. *Resource not found* Sorry, the requested resource does not exist. Check the URL and try again. *Resource:* Zope GET Including the ZMI. I imagine this is something simple, but I can't imagine what it is. I can sysadmin my way out of a paper bag, but when it comes to Zope I'm a n00b. W. Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: Wes Modes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable Jonathan, thanks for writing. Please pardon my zope ignorance. What happens when you try to access any of the problem objects via the ZMI? How would I do this? Wes You typically access the Zope Management Interface (ZMI) by going the url for your zope-based web site with '/manage'. eg. www.myzopesite.com/manage You will then be asked for a username and password (if you don't have this information, you need to use the 'emergency user' - google for 'zope emergency user'). You may also want to look at the Zope Book... http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition - i don't know if this is the most recent version, but it is a good starting point. Jonathan -- Wes Modes Server Administrator Programmer Analyst McHenry Library Computing Network Services Information and Technology Services 459-5208 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
Here's what I get in interactive python. I tried this earlier thanks to
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/TestingAndDebugging.stx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] zope]# bin/zopectl debug*
Starting debugger (the name app is bound to the top-level Zope object)
2008-04-11 10:36:53 WARNING Init Class
Products.HappySession.HappySession.HappySession has a security
declaration for nonexistent method 'manage_menu'
/usr/lib/python2.3/xmllib.py:9: DeprecationWarning: The xmllib
module is obsolete. Use xml.sax instead.
warnings.warn(The xmllib module is obsolete. Use xml.sax
instead., DeprecationWarning)
/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPyGreSQLDA/db.py:89:
DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use the
re module
import _pg, regex, sys, types
/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/ZpdfDocument/ZpdfDocument.py:52:
DeprecationWarning: Non-ASCII character '\xe2' in file
/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/ZpdfDocument/pdflib.py on line
355, but no encoding declared; see
http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details
import pdflib,elements
2008-04-11 10:36:54 WARNING Init Ambiguous name for method of
Products.ZpdfDocument.ZpdfDocument.ZpdfDocument: 'manage' !=
'manage_main'
2008-04-11 10:36:54 WARNING Init Ambiguous name for method of
Products.ZpdfDocument.ZpdfDocument.ZpdfDocument: 'manage' !=
'manage_editDocument'
2008-04-11 10:36:54 WARNING Init Ambiguous name for method of
Products.ZpdfDocument.ZpdfDocument.ZpdfDocument: 'manage' !=
'manage_editForm'
2008-04-11 10:36:54 ERROR ZODB.lock_file Error locking file
/var/lib/zope/var/Data.fs.lock
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/lock_file.py, line 63, in
__init__
lock_file(self._fp)
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/lock_file.py, line 42, in
lock_file
fcntl.flock(file.fileno(), _flags)
IOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
Traceback (most recent call last):
File string, line 1, in ?
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope2/__init__.py, line 51, in app
startup()
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope2/__init__.py, line 47, in startup
_startup()
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope2/App/startup.py, line 57, in
startup
DB = configuration.dbtab.getDatabase('/', is_root=1)
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/DBTab/DBTab.py, line 96, in
getDatabase
db = self._createDatabase(name, is_root)
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/DBTab/DBTab.py, line 113, in
_createDatabase
db = factory.open()
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/datatypes.py, line
163, in open
DB = self.createDB()
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/datatypes.py, line
160, in createDB
return ZODBDatabase.open(self)
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/config.py, line 97, in open
storage = section.storage.open()
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/config.py, line 133, in open
quota=self.config.quota)
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage/FileStorage.py,
line 112, in __init__
self._lock_file = LockFile(file_name + '.lock')
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/lock_file.py, line 63, in
__init__
lock_file(self._fp)
File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/lock_file.py, line 42, in
lock_file
fcntl.flock(file.fileno(), _flags)
IOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
from request import getRequest
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named request
* import Zope2, ZPublisher*
* ZPublisher.Zope('/')*
/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py:247:
DeprecationWarning: The Zope package has been renamed to Zope2.
Import of a package named 'Zope' is deprecated and will be disabled
starting in Zope 2.11.
module=__import__(module_name, g, g, ('__doc__',))
Status: 200 OK
X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python (www.python.org)
Content-Length: 0
* ZPublisher.Zope('/manage')*
Status: 404 Not Found
X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python (www.python.org)
Bobo-Exception-Line: 644
Content-Length: 868
Bobo-Exception-Value: See the server error log for details
Content-Type: text/html
Bobo-Exception-Type: zExceptions.NotFound
Bobo-Exception-File: HTTPResponse.py
table border=0 width=100%
tr valign=top
td width=10% align=center
nbsp;
/td
td width=90%
h2Site Error/h2
pAn error was encountered while publishing this resource.
/p
pstrongResource not found/strong/p
Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.pCheck the URL and
try again./ppbResource:/b http://127.0.0.1/Zope/manage/p
hr noshade=noshade/
pTroubleshooting Suggestions/p
ul
liThe URL may be incorrect./li
liThe parameters passed to
Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
- Original Message - From: Wes Modes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable 2008-04-11 10:36:54 ERROR ZODB.lock_file Error locking file /var/lib/zope/var/Data.fs.lock Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/lock_file.py, line 63, in __init__ lock_file(self._fp) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/lock_file.py, line 42, in lock_file fcntl.flock(file.fileno(), _flags) IOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable Make sure you have read/write access to the /var/lib/zope/var directory and that is 'owned' by 'zope' Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
Better yet, here's a more informative debug output. It tells me that
zope thinks this is a new instance. Though the old database is it place
right where it should expect to see it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] zope]# bin/zopectl debug*
Starting debugger (the name app is bound to the top-level Zope object)
2008-04-11 12:04:05 WARNING Init Class
Products.HappySession.HappySession.HappySession has a security
declaration for nonexistent method 'manage_menu'
[snipped a bunch of warnings...]
* import Zope, ZPublisher*
* ZPublisher.Zope('')*
Status: 200 OK
X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python (www.python.org)
Content-Length: 4066
Content-Type: text/html
[snipped a bunch of html and helpful info]
Zope Quick Start
You have not created any users in this Zope instance. In order to
log in and manage this Zope instance, you'll need to add an
adminstrative
user account.
If you're running Zope on UNIX or Linux, you can create an
administrative
user account via the zopectl adduser command from a shell.
bNote: You'll
need to shut Zope itself down before zopectl adduser will work.
Restart
Zope after executing this command in order to log in./b
WARNING: you are running Zope 2.8.X with python 2.4.X, this is not a
supported
combination. Don't file bugreports or ask for support on zope.org.
And apparently, I'm running 2.8.7 not 2.7.2 as I thought. And I'm not
supposted to ask you for help. Help!
W.
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Dieter Maurer wrote at 2008-4-11 19:13 +0200:
Wes Modes wrote at 2008-4-10 21:04 -0700:
I upgraded to Zope 2.7.2 and all of my content can't be seen by Zope.
Honestly I'm not sure what the previous version I was running was (nor
am I sure how to find out).
Now, every page results in
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Resource not found
Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.
Check the URL and try again.
Resource: Zope GET
Difficult problems can be analyzed in interactive Python
sessions.
Under *nix, you start such a session with bin/zopectl debug
(under Windows, this does not work but there are alternatives).
from request import getRequest
request = getRequest()
obj = request.traverse('pathpart_of_your_url')
obj()
If authentication is required, you use
from request import getAuthRequest
request = getAuthRequest(user, password)
If there are problems, you use pdb.pm() (or dm.pdb.zpbd.pm()
for better Zope support) to analyse them.
I forgot. You can download request.py from
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/request.py
In order to get rid of a deprecation warning, you must replace Zope
with Zope2.
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Re: [Zope] Upgrade to 2.7.2 results in all content unavailable
have you used locate or any other utility to make sure you only have one Zope
installed, like locate zope.conf ?
Thomas
On Friday 11 April 2008 15:14, Wes Modes wrote:
Better yet, here's a more informative debug output. It tells me that
zope thinks this is a new instance. Though the old database is it place
right where it should expect to see it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] zope]# bin/zopectl debug*
Starting debugger (the name app is bound to the top-level Zope
object) 2008-04-11 12:04:05 WARNING Init Class
Products.HappySession.HappySession.HappySession has a security
declaration for nonexistent method 'manage_menu'
[snipped a bunch of warnings...]
* import Zope, ZPublisher*
* ZPublisher.Zope('')*
Status: 200 OK
X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python (www.python.org)
Content-Length: 4066
Content-Type: text/html
[snipped a bunch of html and helpful info]
Zope Quick Start
You have not created any users in this Zope instance. In order to
log in and manage this Zope instance, you'll need to add an
adminstrative
user account.
If you're running Zope on UNIX or Linux, you can create an
administrative
user account via the zopectl adduser command from a shell.
bNote: You'll
need to shut Zope itself down before zopectl adduser will work.
Restart
Zope after executing this command in order to log in./b
WARNING: you are running Zope 2.8.X with python 2.4.X, this is not a
supported
combination. Don't file bugreports or ask for support on zope.org.
And apparently, I'm running 2.8.7 not 2.7.2 as I thought. And I'm not
supposted to ask you for help. Help!
W.
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Dieter Maurer wrote at 2008-4-11 19:13 +0200:
Wes Modes wrote at 2008-4-10 21:04 -0700:
I upgraded to Zope 2.7.2 and all of my content can't be seen by Zope.
Honestly I'm not sure what the previous version I was running was (nor
am I sure how to find out).
Now, every page results in
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Resource not found
Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.
Check the URL and try again.
Resource: Zope GET
Difficult problems can be analyzed in interactive Python
sessions.
Under *nix, you start such a session with bin/zopectl debug
(under Windows, this does not work but there are alternatives).
from request import getRequest
request = getRequest()
obj = request.traverse('pathpart_of_your_url')
obj()
If authentication is required, you use
from request import getAuthRequest
request = getAuthRequest(user, password)
If there are problems, you use pdb.pm() (or dm.pdb.zpbd.pm()
for better Zope support) to analyse them.
I forgot. You can download request.py from
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/request.py
In order to get rid of a deprecation warning, you must replace Zope
with Zope2.
--
Wes Modes
Server Administrator Programmer Analyst
McHenry Library
Computing Network Services
Information and Technology Services
459-5208
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[Zope] Critical System Hosed, Plan B - upgrade zope, convert db
Okay, I accept that Zope is a mysterious god that requires sacrifice. And I wasn't able to solve the mysteries of how to get it up and running again with my old data after an unintentional upgrade. However... I can upgrade Python from 2.4.2 to 2.4.4 and upgrade Zope from 2.7.2 to 2.10.5, get that working, and then hopefully convert my old data. I can handle the python and zope upgrades, but have no idea how to take my old zope database and use it with my brand new zope installation. Any ideas? Wes -- Wes Modes Server Administrator Programmer Analyst McHenry Library Computing Network Services Information and Technology Services 459-5208 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Database conversion
I am running Zope 2.10.5 I've just upgraded from Zope 2.7 I would like to move my database to the newly created instance. I followed the very reasonable and clear instructions here, http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Zope/trunk/doc/FAQ.txt (esentially, just moving the Data.fs file) However, the old data does not come up when I bring up the server again. Perhaps the old objects need conversion or some other juju? Any suggestions? W. -- Wes Modes Server Administrator Programmer Analyst McHenry Library Computing Network Services Information and Technology Services 459-5208 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Database conversion
--On 11. April 2008 17:12:07 -0700 Wes Modes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running Zope 2.10.5 I've just upgraded from Zope 2.7 I would like to move my database to the newly created instance. I followed the very reasonable and clear instructions here, http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Zope/trunk/doc/FAQ.txt (esentially, just moving the Data.fs file) However, the old data does not come up when I bring up the server again. Perhaps the old objects need conversion or some other juju? Even within the third new thread on this issue you have not told us about your old application. Is it core Zope? Using any third party-products? Please provide details about the things you have installed. We're not good in problem-solving-by-guessing. And please: don't create a new mail thread for followups. You have one issue and one mail thread is enough. We don't need three. Andreas pgpUteSHucpkF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
