I'm in rather dire need of the sage wisdom of this list and its members on
this issue for a project that I'm working on.
Is this good or bad for our music and culture?
When I say this I mean the fact that the mainstream press, the marketing
and advertising industries and America in general
so let me get this straight...ford finally clues into the fact that there's
something really amazing that has come/is coming from detroit, and then
they're stupid enough to have a poll on the website asking who's your fav.
techno artist of the year: Moby, Chemical Bros, or Fatboy Slim? C'mon.
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Dharma Fowler wrote:
so let me get this straight...ford finally clues into the fact that there's
something really amazing that has come/is coming from detroit, and then
they're stupid enough to have a poll on the website asking who's your fav.
techno artist of the year:
how is it possible to ruin *real* techno??
what would be ruined?
answer these questions and you will see the end result...
You can not ruin something so ambiguous and positionless...
IMHO of course...
darw_n
create, demonstrate, toneshift...
http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground
Gemini is Spencer Kincey. I have quite a few records that he has done under
his own name and also as Gemini. I first started seeing his records on
Relief/Cajual circa '94. Since then I have seen releases on many other
labels including Guidance and Peacefrog. As for his djing, I have played
with
the left/right track1/track2 trick is not X2 technology
X2 is also known as double grooves.
Two distinct tracks recorded interlaced. (both stereo)
mastering engineers have been doing this for more than 10 years.
a good way to describe it physically...
think of a record groove as a spiral that
on 12/5/2000 10:33 AM, Paul MacGillivray at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TALKING HEADS - Once In A Lifetime 2000 (Masters At
Work Remix)
Noticed this on Planetxusa.com
Looks like it's a Masters at work remix - sounds to me
just like the original. Not a bad job.
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, darw_n wrote:
I have the original (or at least the oldest copy that I know of) of the Jack
speech on a sample record from around 89ish...
But I *think* it sounds exactly like that guy who did the poetry at DEMF
after D.May...
any confirmation on that? I always wanted
hi
What i want to know is who nominates these techno
artists, is it sale based?
The beat of a new generation. The music of the new
millennium.
Let your voice be heard!
Vote in the first-ever Techno category, brought to you
by Ford Focus.
As far as i can see all these bands r bassicly
electronic
Perhaps a better question might bedoes this ruin the ability of
PERFORMERS to accumulate the fruits of their labor. Does Moby's presence
on the SciFi channel proclaiming I am SciFi in a commercial affect the
ability of May, Atkins, Craig, and others to put their music out
there...and to be
apologies to ani the list, my mail has been listing in reverse lately and
I didn't see this post when I replied about the MN repress
Anyway, the record in question below is servo unique on Luxury records,
listed as 'a division of Axis records', 1994.
.JM
I have this and it is one of my
I would guess, not much. As Nader joked, ... however I _do_ think that
Gore lost _me_ the election. The true techno artists might get a little
more money if it were not for the likes of these electronica artists.
But, if it were not for them, would there be a all new techno catagory
brought to
I'm going to be in Florida for New Years, and I don't
really know much about the area where I'm going to be
staying. If anyone knows of any good techno clubs in
the Sarasota/Tampa/Fort Myers area, please let me
know. I was going to go to Motor to see Acquaviva,
Saunderson, etc.., but my plans
nice.
my favorite mispress has to be Axis #007: Robert Hood-minimal nation
mispress, with the 3 lost Jeff Mills tracks.
.JM
my favorite mispress is steve hurley jack your body with a UR riot label.
kinda cute, huh?
ani
record time
just correct me but but wasn't that mr fingers - can you feel it released
'88 on trax?(i only have that uk 10 re-release) and the one track i
mention, that osheen - my house, does anyone have that???
sakke
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, darw_n wrote:
I have the original (or at least the oldest copy
Techno and House are
very different from hip-hop for example, in that I really don't think it
is possible for these artforms to be co-opted. I haven't come up with
anything more than a vague theory as to WHY (if anyone has I'd be
interested in seeing it)..
simple, techno is generally
Okay, before I go on with my question, keep in mind that I am by no means
a trance fan AT ALL (at least trance fans by the convnetional definition).
Like every good 313 technohead, phrases like Paul Okenfold sucks, Epic
trance is cheese, and Hey Pete Tong, I got your 'Essnetial Selection'
right
In a message dated 12/5/00 6:12:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When I say this I mean the fact that the mainstream press, the marketing
and advertising industries and America in general still remains clueless
as
to who the artists are that we are interested in, the music that we actually
In a message dated 12/5/00 7:19:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but I just know that we won't see Sony
perverting the artform. It is what it isand I don't think it can be
changed except by us.
Ok, sorry, I have to break it down to this...AMERICA SUCKS.
Ahem..(for those all so
Subject: Re: [313] the creator
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, jose bello wrote:
who is the creator of this words ?
in the beginning was jack...
Jose Bello.Spain
i first heard these words on mr. fingers can you
feel it but i have this
feeling that it is not the original. i have read
from
yes Omar Bin Hassan (The Last Poets) did not record that speech.
And in case you're tempted to click the Ford Focus ad, it doesn't play No
UFOs. It does have a three-part soundtrack, and No UFOs is not one of them.
Two electronic tracks, one kinda funky crap thing. It also has a music
section, with a lot of info on the retirement of Garth Brooks courtesy of
That would have to be the king of all cyclical 313 threads. I'm gonna be
brief for once. I think *most* of us would like to see this get a little
more recognition, and *most* of us understand that there would be *some*
harm to the scene if Detroit techno went, and remained top 40.
Tristan
This makes me so bleepin' mad!!! I say we should e-mail ABC our thoughts. I
just did. You can too at: http://abc.go.com/abc/help/contact.html
techno and house are also faceless.
d
From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] err...
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:24:53 -0800
Techno and House are
DAMMIT I'm beginning to get extremely disgusted with my ISP's mail
server. I sent this once, evidentally it didn't post (I have no friggin
idea, I'm on digest mode and it went into outer space instead of the list
for some reason) so I will post it again.
Grrr
Originated from My House
BTW, one of the labels that pressed dual stereo tracks side by side was
called parallel fx.
Didn't like the record that much so I returned it. Took me a few to catch
onto the title.
Parallel FX. Git it? I sure hope you do! -
D
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, darw_n wrote:
simple, techno is generally wordless and politically positionless, with none
of the gaudy projective layers of pop, rap or whatever, like chorus and
verse...
I don't think I can agree with what you've said here.
Yes, it certainly is true that techno
id rather abc and the mainstream think fatboy slim was an important part of
techno this yr. im happy with it being underground. and yes, it still is
underground. arent lists like this whats its all about? eff abc, eff em all.
Yes, it certainly is true that techno doesn't have verses and choruses but
a lot of techno certainly does follow the four-bar or eight-bar or
sixteen-bar musical form that pop/rock/hip-hop follow. You can even point
out bridges in some techno tracks. But I don't think this is bad per se.
techno and house are also faceless.
d
That can change though, and is changing. It in fact can become vastly
face-full and yet retain its essence...
add definition however, and you have something else, you now have a
message...
notice I am doing my damndest to not boost the toneshift
I think it's good for the artists and bad for the fans. Look at the bigger
US marekts now, or the UK for comparison. Smaller markets make better
crowds, make a better experience for those involved - with few exceptions
like the DEMF, but I don't think that's what you're talking about. A lot of
The best part is that there is a Ford Focus add on the page. For those who
haven't checked it out or don't have web access, it's a pole for best techno
artist in the American Music Awards, and there are three nominees:
Moby - 75.98%
Chemical Brothers - 8.73%
Fatboy Slim - 15.27%
I heard there
If you go to NSC you WILL hear his story about cutting a lock groove for
Jeff
Mills, which is priceless...
Or you could read about it in Techno Rebels :)
Respect
JasonB
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:08:59PM -0500, Hugh G. Blaze wrote:
When I say this I mean the fact that the mainstream press, the marketing
and advertising industries and America in general still remains clueless as
to who the artists are that we are interested in, the music that we actually
I guess I should be a little bit more specific in terms of what other
cultural phenomenon I was trying to reference.
I'm thinking of the U.K. Where Mega-Mega-Mega dance clubs are commonplace
and DJs are more like pop stars.
Would it be generally desirable or generally NOT desireable for the
And you expected what from Disney?
-Original Message-
From: atomly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 3:31 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [313] err...
http://abc.go.com/primetime/ama/techno_home.html
--
:: atomly ::
Absolutely. Trance came from Detroit techno. Stardancer is the obvious
example. Also, think: Sun Electric's Entrance. The title is not a
coincidental mispelling. And Sun Electric are only a few steps of
collaborations from Eddie Fowlkes, Juan Atkins, Moritz Von Oswals, etc.
I got into this stuff
Some of my posts aren't coming through either. Anyone else having problems?
Tristan
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it appears that all of hyperreal is slowed down, none of the lists are
posting in any real good time...
darw_n
create, demonstrate, toneshift...
http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground
http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html
haha that has to be one of the funniest things i've ever heard! fav. techno
artist and those are your choices? nuts... completely nuts. oh well i
guess it'd be too much to ask for them to do even a little research into the
things they try and commericialize...
later
danny
- Original
This is the AMG discog for starters.
1997 Imagine-A-Nation Relief
1997 In and Out of Fog and Lights Peacefrog
1997 In Neutral Distance
1990 Let Your Body Rock Cut It Up Def s
1995 A Moment of Insanity [EP] Planet E
1997 Hibernation [EP] Peacefrog
1997 Beyond Gone Disko B s
1997 Pieces of
don´t forget that 1 on perspective, my personal fave... got two on italian
labels as well, look em up when im home...and there´s 1 with french vocals on
cajual which is excellent, fusion sumtinprob still loads more, the man
produces faster than his shadow...
154
There's got to be some explanation for all this. Other than what was
mentioned here before about the possibly of some marketing guy from Ford dug
techno; it might just be that since this commerical came out gearing towards
the techno scene which sparked some interest, that other executives
-Original Message-
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Date: Sunday, December 03, 2000 1:48 AM
Subject: [313] Gemini
I am looking for info on the elusive Gemini for a little article I am
writing. Does anyone have any experince watching him DJ, ideas
atomly wrote:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/ama/techno_home.html
I think one big assumption that's being made throughout this discussion
is that Ford decided who to nominate. That decision is made by the AMA
organisation, not the sponsors. The AMA most likely decides the nominees
based on sales
darw_n wrote :
so it could be said that techno is the universal music in that all
music can
be distilled down to techno...
heh heh
i really can't agree with this statement, though it's a nice thought! i
don't see pieces of music as existing on some scale of complexity/design
which can
Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote:
As for the music I think that darw_n is correct. Techno and House are
very different from hip-hop for example, in that I really don't think it
is possible for these artforms to be co-opted.
Don't count on it. For the US, that may be (still) true. In Europe,
The wise, well traveled Dutchman, Otto, speaks...
=)
G l y p h
In a message dated 12/6/00 4:35:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think one big assumption that's being made throughout this discussion
is that Ford decided who to nominate. That decision is made by the AMA
organisation, not the
*BUT*, in the process of the bagging of house, occasionally the real
thing makes it to the frontline. Wamdue Kids, Paul Johnson,
Harry 'Choo
Choo' Romero and several other Subliminal artists, Masters At
Work, St.
Germain, the list goes on. And the good thing about it is, this is
Yep, same here in Belgium. Rolando getting tons of airplay on the national
radio : Studio Brussel. Unfortunately way too late (as always), but still a
kick up the *ss for a lot of people I guess. And guess what: one of the dj's
that plays quite often at Studio Brussel also plays from time to
Hullo All,
here's a note from Ben Sims.
- Original Message -
From: Ben Sims
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 2:46 AM
Subject: killabite again
hello people..
sorry to drop a mail on you like this but it's probably my only chance
of letting you know before
And here is a reply from Rob Jarvis:
-
Hi, some of you might have seen this e-mail..
This short note below is my retort.
The original Killa bite team was Rob, Phil and Ben as engineer.
Rob and Phil went round Ben's to record an EP, all 3 artists were equally
involved in
minimal techno is an
approach/attempt at expression, as is mahler's 5th: clearly mahler's works
are far more dense, but to suggest that they could be 'distilled' into
something more universal seems to miss the point.
and what is the point?
I am not being retaliatory here, but I am curios.
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expect new and old tunes from broad electronic genres. ranging from older
detroit and
the 'point' is that mahler expresses himself one way, hawtin (for example)
another. the fact that hawtin's music is generally more stripped/minimal
than mahler's doesn't mean that it's emotional content/expression is more
universal/pure. they are both equally universal/pure in my view (it's the
Those do sound good but I'm going to pass up his material on Tektite
because the whole Basic Channel inspired dub sound with Roland strings
and pads over the top is getting a little stale.
This should have been released two or three years ago (that's probably
when it was made)
But I shouldn't be
...and a couple of more recent releases:
1999 Gemini - 'Swimmin Wit Sharks' 12 (Classic 077)
2000? Spencer Kincy - 'The 4th Day' 12 (Make Out Music 004)
Both are great 12s.
cheers
~Askew
_
Get more from the
that make out ting is from 97/98 or sumtin, been playin it since
thenexcellent stuff!
154
in defense of Convextion:
he sent me two acetates about a year
or so ago and they were far far from
being basic channel style dub with
roland strings on top; they were quite
excellent, actually, and the material still
sounds fresh to this day. listen to his tracks
on matrix's digital sects 2
Oh god!!! I think the presenters of this award should be the four
horseman of the apocalypse!
Hugh G. Blaze wrote:
I'm in rather dire need of the sage wisdom of this list and its
members on this issue for a project that I'm working on.
Is this good or bad for our music and culture?
When
Peace...
Just thought I would add my 2 cents, I agree that trance was definitely
influenced by do techno and Detroit, but we must also understand that trance
was also heavily influenced by whats was popular in clubs in the 80's, and I
would say, a lot of eurodance pop formulaic tracks..if you
consider this:
If you take an elaborate Opera, you can theoretically distill
it, all while
keeping its general feel, down to techno. Ambient may or may
not work, it
depends on your approach. But you could distill the Opera down to one
crucial segment (which probably was the musical
And with Ford's current ad campaign theme, it's no surprise
either that
they decide to sponsor such an award, even though they know
it's not the
real techno. In any case, it's the closest thing at the AMA they have
for reaching the intended target audience. Assuming they show the ad
Peace..
I wonder if all of you who have been posting lately got this annoying
automatic reply in Swedish..the e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailbox must be full
Fahd Al Noor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Albuquerque, NM
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Tired of slow
courtesy of monsiegneur leo
Subject: New language developments in Europe
The News Standard has received this bulletin fresh from our Brussels-based
hack. The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has
been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for
FORD COULD CARE LESS ABOUT TECHNO! THEY JUST WANT TO SELL CARS! that's the
bottom line. if they thought there was a big enough market for Midget
Transsexual Racecar Drivers they would exploit that. it's all about
appealing to a mass of people and then moving in for the kill, it has about
as much
Ford is just a multinational with billions dolars of proffits and if anybody
on this list really think Ford is interested in techno at all or want to
lift techno to a higher lever then they are extremly ignorant. Some smart
guy down at Ford just noticed how populair the DEMF was, they not here to
reducing other music to a few notes, and repeating makes
techno...which
makes it a meta-creation from those notes, like distilling down to the
essence(notes)
then building back up from there.
no, you make techno by switching on your drumcomputer and sampler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peace...
Speaking of list moderators..who are they now? I am pretty sure
the infamous George Smiley retired long time ago..any info on this
character? Is Andrew Duke one of them? :D
Fahd Al Noor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Albuquerque, NM
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:25:15 +0100 , Jongsma, K.J. wrote:
I certainly have to agree with this
last comment.
I recently had some involvement with Ford
for work, and could not for the life of me
figure out HOW they got a single vehicle
out the door. This, amidst the whole tire
recall issue.
In seeing the add on tv a few weeks ago,
all I could think was
on 12/5/2000 9:01 PM, christos at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
however, I wonder,
how much influence did we have on the development of trance?
We discussed this briefly five weeks ago, when our pal Chrome3 admitted:
I am sick of that boring soulful kenny larkin crap, I want
rippin' arpeggios,
We discussed this briefly five weeks ago, when our pal Chrome3 admitted:
I am sick of that boring soulful kenny larkin crap, I want
rippin' arpeggios, pumpin 909 kicks, and swirling psychedelic dolphin
noises.
ahh, that was a proud moment in 313 history.
chris --- just ripped an
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, atomly wrote:
[...]
I'd say the problem with the mainstream media picking up subgenres is
that they burn fast and die quickly... If techno (true, underground,
techno) were to get big tomorrow, a lot of people that we know would
probably become superstars overnight and in
What about letting the four DUTCHMEN of the Apocalypse present it? Now that
would be fun!
Oh god!!! I think the presenters of this award should be the four
horseman of the apocalypse!
Hugh G. Blaze wrote:
I'm in rather dire need of the sage wisdom of this list and its
members on this
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 08:24:53PM -0800, darw_n wrote:
techno is generally [...] politically positionless
Since when?
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We discussed this briefly five weeks ago, when our pal Chrome3 admitted:
I am sick of that boring soulful kenny larkin crap, I want
rippin' arpeggios, pumpin 909 kicks, and swirling psychedelic dolphin
noises.
Please, dont get me wrong, I couldn't even tell you the name of a single
Just a quick mention that i'll be doing a
75 minute set with the folks at Nortroute
this afternoon at 5 pm (est). Head on over
to www.nortroute.net, click on the live
stream, and join us in the chat if you like.
Residents Dan (Madvision) and Marsel (Delsin)
will be working the tables as usual
From: Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Maybe we should let our voices be heard!!!
I agree...
Instead of whining and complaining about what should or shouldn't be
techno and of what this _may_ do to our music, we should respectfully send
a couple thousand e-mails to abc, and let them
I have to say that linguistic mail was once of the funnier things I have
seen via email. Cheers! -
DBIT
check below ;)
Christian Bloch
www.mp3.com/bloch
Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go
- Original Message -
From: Steve Foldvari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:37 PM
Subject: Plus 8 contest on ACIDplanet
Congrats to you Christian. Looking forward to hearing the end result.
GYS
-Original Message-
From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:04 PM
To: 313
Subject: [313] Fw: Plus 8 contest WINNER on ACIDplanet
Importance: High
check below
As originally planned, the Plus 8 / Sonic Foundry contest was to have
a single winner. But we had so many entries of such quality that we
decided to expand on this a bit.
Along with the grand prize winner (software from SF and publishing of
track by Plus 8) Richie has selected a list of
Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote:
As for the music I think that darw_n is correct. Techno and House are
very different from hip-hop for example, in that I really don't think it
is possible for these artforms to be co-opted.
Otto said:
Don't count on it. For the US, that may be (still)
Congratulations Christian, I'll be checking it out as soon as I get home.
Jonny.
- Original Message -
From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:04 PM
Subject: [313] Fw: Plus 8 contest WINNER on ACIDplanet
check below ;)
(changed subj. to reflect content)
Charles said:
In seeing the add on tv a few weeks ago,
all I could think was that some kid at
JWT (I'm assuming...) has a big
old grin on his face because he was able
to push his idea through the tube
I'm the one who got detroit techno on tv.
I dunno
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techno is generally [...] politically positionless
Since when?
since I have yet to hear a real stance from techno
what great movement do we represent?
darw_n
create, demonstrate, toneshift...
http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground
http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 03:25:45PM -0800, darw_n wrote:
since I have yet to hear a real stance from techno
UR?
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On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 03:25:45PM -0800, darw_n wrote:
since I have yet to hear a real stance from techno
UR?
sure, but I can point to many many groups within the techno scene who have
entirely polar opposite views, UR's is simply one position in a near
infinite amount of stances,
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 04:00:13PM -0800, darw_n wrote:
sure, but I can point to many many groups within the techno scene who have
entirely polar opposite views, UR's is simply one position in a near
infinite amount of stances, varying from one extreme to another. Because of
this highly
..Yawn...zzz
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Because Communists exist and Fascists exist and are diametrically
opposed, politics don't exist?
no, that's not what I said at all. Those two opposing political forces do
NOT represent a single group.
Let me try to re-explain...
Techno has no single political, social, economic banner in
Atomly quipped:
Because Communists exist and Fascists exist and are diametrically
opposed, politics don't exist?
Dawrw_n replied:
no, that's not what I said at all. Those two opposing political forces do
NOT represent a single group.
Let me try to re-explain...
Techno has no single
BUT, Detroit techno is indeed a little different in that it is very much
tied to jazz and blues, almost equaled to...
in what way? when i listen to jazz ornette coleman, miles davis, sun ra,
don cherry, art ensemble, whatever, i hear very different things than when
i listen to derrick may,
Techno has no single political, social, economic banner in which all
stand
united, none at all.
What artistic, social or political movement ever has? None.
fine rebuttal, but there *was* a general underlying common drive. Every
youth music movement has had a general drive, be it war or
i've got nothing wrong with Chem Bros., Fatboy Slim, Moby, whatever being in
the AMA... the only thing i wish is that they wouldn't insult techno's name
by putting them under a techno category. how about breakbeat, or dance pop?
Mike
From: Steven White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: *bleep* c r u
I think you're missing the point, to pun badly.
Listen to a remix ep or album some time and you'll see what I mean. The
point of the music is not neccessarily to distill that key idea fundamental
to it. The point is the artistic expression OF that point. I can think of
numerous remix
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From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [313] err...
Techno has no single political, social, economic banner in which all
stand
united, none
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