Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

I was hoping that with the Preemptive processes we could actually accomplish this. I have not tried it as of yet though with v16. I will stick with ‘Butlers’ as we called them, for now. Jody Jody Bevan ARGUS Productions Inc. Developer Argus Productions Inc.

4D v6.8

I did not think I would be dealing with anything before v12, so I deleted all my old versions of 4D a few years ago. Oh well, of course when one does that you need to have what one has deleted. I need to convert a v 6.8 database up to v16. The problem I am encountering is that there are compone

Re: 4D v6.8

Thanks everyone. I will read up on the vll upgrade manual. That is helpful and give the official word on how to do it. I will look to see what version of the OS my old (1st version of MacBook Air has on it) That just might do the trick. I will contact 4D sales about getting the necessary product

Re: 4D v6.8

t for that but gave up > > Regards > Chuck > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 14, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> my old (1st version of MacBook Air has on it) That just might do the trick.

Re: 4D v6.8

Chuck: Thanks! I will keep your offer in mind. I do have a computer running 10.6.x with lots of room - original MacBook air. Jody > On Nov 16, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Charles Miller via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Great idea I have 10.6.8 server running as a VM ware partition for e

Re: 4D v6.8

Tim: That is a good idea for these old structures. I checked out my original MacBook Pro and it is running 10.6. So I should be good to go. This will be a good idea for the future. I did read that 10.6 is still available from Apple. Jody > On Nov 16, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d

Re: 4D v6.8

Wayne: Thanks - you confirmed what my research was telling me. I should be good to go with my original MacBook Pro. Jody > On Nov 16, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > Scratch that, I've got it running in both 10.5 & 10.6 (next time chec

Re: The speed penalty for pointers is pretty low compiled

Kirk: You are right how we stick to our old habits. We do though because they have proven to work and sticking with them saves a lot of time. What we have done is to rewrite our shell every so often. The goal is to make use of all of the new features of 4D that we can, and to try new ways of do

Re: 4D Server / Remote 16.2 64-bit macOS 10.12.6 or 10.13

When I read that Apple was moving ahead with the new filing system in 10.13 I decided to wait that change out - likely until 10.14. Apple tried that once before and fell flat. I see that there have been a couple of big problems with the new file system - happy I waited. I really appreciate those

4D 6.8 Removing Components

I asked this a few months ago. I have finally got from the client the correct version of their structure. It is written in 6.8.6 of 4D (USA). It has some components that I need to get out to convert to much later version so I can use on my big screens and later version of 4D. I am not concerned

Re: Re(2): "Goodbye 4D Write" email

I will add my 2 cents worth here too. I agree with Jeff. As a previous post noted a big cause of this problem was Apple. They forced change on us, and on 4D. I was involved in an industry where each month brought new requirements that were forced upon us by various governments that we had to im

Re: European Data Protection Reglementation to take effect on May 25 - 4D compliance?

Low level data encryption at rest is best achieved with hardware. The major server vendors provide RAID controllers that look after this for you on the fly. This way the data is always encrypted on the hard drives. That way if someone steals the server computer they need that RAID controller in

Re: [SAD NEWS] legendary developer and 4D base-rock Ortwin Zillgen

Bob Miller, I agree with you. I always enjoyed reading Ortwin’s posts. It is like we know Ortwin from his posts. He contributed to many systems through his posts. Jody Bevan Argus Productions Inc. BTW, I enjoy reading almost all posts here. I learn so much from this group, and the previous C

Re: 4D data on the web - what do you use?

This is a very timely topic for me. We put a good chunk of our medical application on the Web back in 2004. Back then we used Apache up front, and then just used 4D to generate the HTML. We had 4D serve the HTML through a 4D Client back through Apache. It worked very well, and is still running t

Re: 4D data on the web - what do you use?

Tim: > On Mar 14, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I guess that explains why you “retired” and moved to that “tropical" place. > You sold your company and got rich. Congratulations! There is a much different ending than you have given. I like your

Re: 4D data on the web - what do you use?

Tim: The story is long, but the steps for them are: 1. Set up an RFP that is targeted such that their cronies are the only ones that can deliver (ISP - Telco), thus every current vendor must partner with the telco. 2. Refuse to give out important interface information to various public servic

Compound Indexes

Recently a new Database I am working on 16.R2 build 209757 has a problem. We have a 5 compound Indexes in the structure. We have a dialog that will display the tables, fields, and index name for the compound indexes. The problem I am having is that the following indicates there are 4 compound In

Re: list box on a subform

Chuck: We use forms to be Included forms on multiple tables, and multiple different forms. The listboxes are all set up in code, and can be changed by each individual user. We have not set up a Listbox outside of code in years now. I cannot see a reason to leave Listboxes, or not use them in mu

Re: Macro to check that local variables are declared in a method?

Bob: I would suggest if you are going to write something this far, why not make it so that it will declare all local variables for you, and remove declarations that are no longer needed. A great time saver. Of course to go that far, there needs to be a strictly enforced naming convention. Jody

Re: Macro to check that local variables are declared in a method?

Bob: Another thought to watch out for. As you know in some cases 4D names some of it’s own things starting with a ‘$’. For example a Process name can be named starting with a ‘$’. If you have strictly named local variables those should be easy to filter out. Jody > On Apr 27, 2018, at 9:54 A

Re: Compiler_ Methods

Ferdinando: These are the standard for the method where the compiler will look to declare the variables the way you want them. If you do not do this, then the compiler will declare the variables as it comes across them. I do not remember which version this became the rule, but it has been for s

Re: New network layer update

Jeff: I gather that if this continues for a few weeks, that you will switch to 64bit clients? Jody > On May 2, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > We flipped the switch on our production server at midnight this morning and > ran all day. We peaked a

Access to Runtime Explorer

In a Multi Developer environment none of the developers sign in as the ‘Designer’ user. We have a group that has access to the Design environment. We then put developers into this group. Therefore, when working on the system none of us have access to the Runtime Explorer. Sometimes that could b

Re: 4D Write Pro Interface component v16R6

Thanks for sharing Randy. That will save me time… now I need to remember you told us. Jody > On May 13, 2018, at 7:28 AM, Randy Jaynes via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Just a word of warning to prevent headaches for anyone else in the future. > > I just finished spending a few

Re: Server Administration Window - I must have been dreaming

I know we can make our own Server window that can be displayed from anywhere. I thought I also remember too that we can modify the existing one (or maybe they meant create a custom one that gets used). This is great news when looking after hundreds of servers, or just one. Jody Jody Bevan Dev

Re: First experiments with 4D View PRO

I am of similar mind as Jeff in regard to charging if one just uses for the extra Listbox features. There are times where the features of being able to show pictures, numbers, Strings, etc in the same column of the Listbox has proved very useful. Having done this in our shell, it means we really

Subform - Detail

While this old timer is going to use a Detail Subform for the first time. I have read the documentation a few times, but I missing one thing (thus far). 1. How can the parent form know that a change was made in the Subform Detail form (which is information from another table) so that it will sa

Re: Subform - Detail

Kirk: THANKS!! That sounds great, and you taught me more too. Jody > On May 30, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi Jody, > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:39 AM Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> w

Re: Subform - Detail

me. Sincerely Jody Bevan > On May 30, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi Jody, > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:39 AM Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> 1. How can the parent form

Drag from outside of 4D into a 4D Form

I thought it would be good for an Import to let people drag a file from the desktop onto a form. It certainly is not a critical feature, the old style select from a file dialog works good for me. I was looking for an example database, or tech note but could not find one. The Drag and Drop Prope

Re: Losing memory on 4D web application

Aparajita: We loved ObjectTools at Jonoke for well over a decade. We could not have done what we did without it. It was fantastic. Thanks for ObjectTools over all those years. We never had a memory leak from it while we used it. It is great having plug-in developers creating tools for us, while

Re: Date entry

Bob: Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the date entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date fields, but we let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it does not matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The for

Save Record($vptr_Table->)

The method that this err occurs in is used hundreds of time throughout the system. All record saves go through it. I have a record I used Add Record which opened up our ‘Input’ form. Within the Form Method On Load I update information in the record, and from the User Interface I update informat

Re: Save Record($vptr_Table->)

able directly identified '-1' Jody. > On Jun 10, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Douglas von Roeder wrote: > > Jody: > > Try using the actual table name. What’s in//disable the trigger. > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:50 PM Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com >

Re: Save Record($vptr_Table->)

> wrote: > > If there are any Unique fields in that table (I'm sure there are!) check > that you aren't trying to save a duplicate value in one of them. > > PB > > On 10 June 2018 at 21:02, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: >

Re: Save Record($vptr_Table->)

Sujit: I do not think it is a table number issue in our code. We built the local pointer early into the new process by code similar to $vptr_Table:=->[StandardOrder] In one last try, before giving up on the few hours of code I wrote and go to my backup from last night, I compacted the structur

Re: Save Record($vptr_Table->)

om> wrote: > > >> Le 10 juin 2018 à 23:18, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a >> écrit : >> >> Sujit: >> >> I do not think it is a table number issue in our code. We built the local >> pointer early into the new process by cod

Re: v16 Time picker - bound variable changed

I submitted a bug on Sunday in regard to 16.3 Hotfix 4 where the command Listbox Set Property and all the lk_ constants are not dereferenced (thus cannot compile). In the Method editor one ends up with just a numerical reference. Jody > On Jun 11, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech

Re: v16 Time picker - bound variable changed

h@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > LISTBOX SET PROPERTY was created in 16R2, it's normal that it won't compile > on 16.3 (if that is what you mean) > > http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16R6/4D/16-R6/LISTBOX-SET-PROPERTY.301-3547819.en.html > > 2018/06/12 6:09、Jody Bevan via 4D_Te

Re: v16 Time picker - bound variable changed

w features to the > community, > as well as collect feedback from 4D developers during the beta phase to make > sure R releases are as stable as possible. > > that is why 4D publishes (blog and documentation) new features well in > advance of release. > >> 2018/06/12

Creating Tables by running a method

I know that this feature has been around for a long time ~ 4D 2011. I am now using 16R6. I now have a method that creates a table with the fields I want added. The challenge I am having is setting indexes (and index types), as well as Primary Keys. I looked in the Knowledge Base for code exa

Re: Creating Tables by running a method

Pat: We have rarely used a trigger, but it is an important thing to know in going into it. Thanks for telling me. At least I will not spend a week trying to get a trigger into a table I have created this way. One never knows what they will be doing, or need in the future. Life has certainly tau

Re: Creating Tables by running a method

quot;) > > > Primary Keys - Needs SQL > > $sql:="ALTER TABLE "+$tableName > $sql:=$sql+" "+"ADD PRIMARY KEY ("+$fieldName+")" > Begin SQL > EXECUTE IMMEDIATE: $sql; > End SQL > > > > Randy Engle, Director > XC2

Re: v13+ open multiple methods windows stacked

Chip: I do not know of a way to do this automatically. I have done it a long time ago using code - code I don’t have anymore. We control the opening position of every window so writing this is not that hard (likely you know that already - sorry). Jody > On Jun 22, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Chip Sche

Re: Creating Tables by running a method

Randy: So I have got this done using all SQL. At the end it would create the indexes for the first table I created, but then fail for al the next. Eventually I figured out that the index name (behind the scenes) need to be unique within the whole database. Therefore I just added a string of the

Re: [Solved] v13 - Konstant problem

Chip: Hate those kinds of things. Hours to learn, it seems like hours wasted. Thanks for letting us know the solution. Jody > On Jun 26, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Koen > Thanks > > While you were not exactly on track it did point me in t

Re: v13 - Konstants [Solved]

Chip and Keisuke: Very interesting thread. We have been using 4D Pop extensively for several years. If UUID are required, and 4D Pop is not handling them right, then I guess we need to write our own tool. I find it strange that a tool that is packaged from the factory would not handle it corre

Re: UUIDs internal ID with 4DPop

Chip: Thanks!! Jody > On Jun 27, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > In the source code for 4DPop > in the method: CONSTANT_Save_file > change the code at line 104 : > from: > CONSTANT_NEW_CONSTANT > ($Dom_constants;$Txt_value;"k_"+String($Lon_consta

Re: Application Metrics

Taking you back to JonokeMed days Dani circa ~ 2010. Jonoke did all of that so we could know what was used or not. I used the results a lot. Jody > On Jul 3, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Dani Beaubien via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Probably the easiest way to do this is to create a new

Re: Application Metrics

Tilman: Agreed, Anonymity is very important. Way back then even the government (Universal Healthcare) was clueless about what was happening in their system. They had much of the data, but not the systems that could get the information out to them. Back then we had 20% of Canada being looked aft

Re: Date entry

th date formats: > On a UK system, dates in fields and list boxes are incorrectly displayed in > the US format. But when you click into a date field, it changes to the UK > format! > > How do you manage this? > > Pat > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 15:46, Jody Bevan

Re: Date entry

Pat: I was a lot of work. Especially going through a large application and changing it all over. We got forced into it by regulation of supporting different date formats across different government regulatory regions. So we decided to just do it the flexible way and provide many more features t

Minimalism in Graphics

What do you think and do? I know that this ‘trend’ is started by the designers at Apple. When Apple starts a design trend then many thousands of developers follow it. To me, this trend is just like a fashion trend, rather than a functional trend. Yes I have read that the ‘reason’ is to let desi

Re: Minimalism in Graphics

Fast enhancement request! Jody > On Jul 6, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > The color is back in the debugger in v17, just FYI. > >> On Jul 6, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> &g

Re: Cannot delete if related many issue

Arnaud de Montard: Since 4D v2.0.10 I have not used it (probably not in 4D way back then). When we used to permit actual deletions but we handled all record deletions in our code especially for related records that also needed to go. Now we do not permit actual deletions - we just flag records

Re: Objects without Stylesheets suddenly displayed as Wingdings!

Chuck: That sounds like great code module to have in a developer tool kit. If you are willing to share, I would appreciate a copy. Thanks jody > On Jul 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I have code that will report on any object on forms with

Re: standard action for design mode not working in 17.0

John: I encountered this too. I believe the command changed from the v16R series to a slight difference in v17. The constant had changed. I looked it up in v17 and just used the new command. Jody > On Jul 14, 2018, at 8:18 AM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I conve

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

I am good with the HTML pages. Especially when we can download them to run locally. I have a blazing fast 2MB download and 512k upload internet speed. They work fine for me for lookup of commands. I just finished 2 weeks of internet down. Running the browser in Offline mode and accessing the HT

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

Sorry that I comment on your thread. I didn’t see the Jorg only sign. > On Jul 27, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Jody, > >> On 27 Jul 2018, at 23:32 AEST, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com >>

Re: Tabbed design windows are the best

I tried it out for about 4 days. What I liked: 1. uncluttered desktop. 2. The forms / methods were always in one location. What I didn’t like: 1. Often when I code I will have 2 or 3 windows open that I will be looking at to get object names, or match the flow of code in another method.

What Source do you use

I need to have a system with Countries, States (province, Parish, Regions), and then Communities. In the past I would typically use Wikipedia to get the information. I did this to get a few for development and testing. Now I would like to fill this out for about 20 countries. If the Zip / Posta

Re: Tabbed design windows are the best

I will have to read the upgrade notes again to see how to do that Chip. Having 5-10 different tabbed windows would work well I think. Jody > On Jul 30, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Ive not used it - > but > > based on current work style..

Re: Changes to variable initialization in v16?

Noah: Can I make a suggestion for you that I and many others here do in their code: 1. Have very defined naming convention of your variables in code. 2. The naming convention must clearly show the type of variable. 3. Every method must declare its local variables. 4. Every process variable must

E-Mail in 4D

The last time I wrote an E-Mail client with 4D was circuit 4D v11 and into v12. It worked great. I left the programming world for a break for 2 years, and then got back in. Now I am using 16R6, and will likely move into the v17. releases for a product I am working on. From my review today, and

Writing Components

I really want to place a bunch of our code / forms into a component. It will make it much easier to install into other systems, and to update that code / forms as into older designed system that use an older version of the component. Of course it also protects what could otherwise be unprotected

OPs - my bad

I made a comment that has not shown up on the nug yet that the component documentation didn’t explain what the ‘Matrix’ was before using it. After 10 more minutes of frustration I discovered it was located in the Component Overview section - which I missed when I thought I was starting from the

Re: New record numbering system and CALL WORKER

Chuck: That is exactly what we do for our code. Has served us well for all our sites. We can have 200+ current users on the system, importing records from labs (thus needing lots of counters quickly), and never noticed a problem with the system. For those counters we do not wanted to have one g

Set Environment Variable

I am using the Launch External Process to get information via wmic. Of course the cmd line window pops up for a second. I would like to stop this. The Set Environment Variable command is supposed to do this. Of course though, I need to know the environment variable to do this with. I am having d

Re: Help?

Ken: This is why with ALL our code, we have right near the very beginning of our code the following: If(Caps Lock Down) Trace End if Of course this does not work in compiled mode. Many many years ago I learned the lesson like you did. This is now standard code. Jody > On Sep 10, 2018, at 8:

v16 - playing videos stored in the database

In years gone by, I used to provide this feature through an Escape plugin. It seems to me that one should be able to do this through a WebArea. I am obviously getting thick, but when I read the Web Area Language Reference I seem to be missing a lot. I thought it would be something simple like u

Re: v16 - playing videos stored in the database

Tai: Thanks, I will take a read through these. In the case for the current client I am wanting this for it is a one off application so having the videos stored locally (on their server) is likely the better way. For our Shell training videos the other storage off site is the better way to go

Re: v16 - playing videos stored in the database

Thanks Janie, Tai, and Keisuke for your suggestions. We will look at these and decide which way we want to go. Sincerely Jody Bevan > On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Tai Bui via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > Perhaps the following two Tech Tips can give you an idea on ho

Signing a MacOS Standalone Application - XCode version 9.2

I found out a new client upgraded their Macs to a later version of the OS (High Sierra). Of course the MacOS app I sent them needs to get signed with an Apple Certificate. I researched the 4D KnowledgeBase, read the tech note on doing it and it seemed easy to use. I downloaded XCode from App

Re: Creating a form object to use as dynamic form

Sorry Rudy, not an answer to your question, but topical I think. Being able to create a sophisticated form via code is a fantastic feature. It is like the coding I did back in 1982/1983. Back when I first got my hands on my own copy of 4D version 2.0.10 the Graphical form editor was such a lib

Re: Creating a form object to use as dynamic form

Rudy: I agree with you. You think Belgium has few courses - try Belize! I am with you trying to master it is a challenge. So much new in v17. Fortunately we can still code as we did, and learn in snippets as we have time. I do hope they have a course happening around the USA on this new stuff b

Re: Creating a form object to use as dynamic form

ought Laruant would be able to make something like > ORDA either so I suspect there's something in the works. > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 7:57 AM Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> ... but my hope is that this is just a necessary 1st st

Re: How to get the current time in a specified time zone

Pat: Thanks. I will try it out. I will see if then I can figure out getting it for the different time zones without having it hard coded in. Jody > On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:28 PM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Using v16: > I've figured out how to get the current GMT

Where is best place to save data outside data file

In my previous 26+ years of 4D coding I did not have to concern myself with the same computer being used by different computer users (By this, I mean the user signed into the computer). Part of that was that long ago, people just didn’t sign out of the computer, and then the next person sign in

Re: Where is best place to save data outside data file

Chip: Ya, I saw my phone number there as I clicked send… I will try the 4D Folder and see how that works out. Thanks Jody > On Oct 9, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I believe that Get 4D Folder works for this sort of thing > > I would think

Re: Where is best place to save data outside data file

to learn Terminal much better, and learned to trouble shoot signing. After I get my notes done, I will be much better prepared for problems. Thanks again Jody > On Oct 10, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Jim Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On Oct 9, 2018, at 8:50

Re: Defining and documenting Objects

We rewrote our shell (that has been updated ever few version since 3.0 when I write the first shell). Our goal was to have as few of global, and interprocess variables as possible. We got a long way in before we needed more than a few of each. Yes, one of those is for the hiding/showing of list

Re: [off] no matter how bad the code you have/wrote/work on....

Thanks for sharing. > On Nov 15, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > > it can not be this bad > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18442941 > > Chip ** 4D Internet User

Re: Coding/Development Style Guide?

Tom: We rewrote our shell for v16 from scratch. I also wanted to write complete documentation on using the shell too. That of course included naming convention for everything (even table names), includes lots of code that is very easy to add to code you are writing, and explanation of a lot of

Re: Understanding 4D Mobile

Thanks for this discussion - keep posting your experiences and opinions. I have three 4D to the web interfaces that I will be working on late this year. I worked on one that we delivered in 2004 and enhanced over the years. It seems that every six months is a generation for web tools. That is gr

Re: Object visualize / browse

David: We started our new shell with v15. Now on v16.3 as we continue creating it. The very first thing we built (Ok Adam built all our object code), was our object tools. He built in dot notation into all the tools. We were used to the power of ObjectTools. Then he built our Object Viewer. The

Re: How to trap a form save keystroke in an object method ?

Peter. Get rid of the auto save action. Then you can handle what ever situations you need to. We have not used auto action buttons for 25 years. Sincerely Jody Bevan > On May 17, 2017, at 19:51, Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi > > I rarely come across this

Re: Modal dialog dilemma

Pat: ‘Bleed Through’ or as I have called it the ‘Butteryfly Effect’, has always been a nasty surprise and something that takes experience (and discipline) in large systems to not bite you from time to time. I know I have been bitten too many times. Pat without knowing for certain why this is ha

Re: Modal dialog dilemma

I have. My motivation didn't have anything to do > with bleed through. They came about as I was working more and more with > objects and dynamic variables. > > On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> 1. On a

Re: Saving open windows in Design environment feature

Jim: Yes, always nice when the gang in Paris will write a feature. They have lower level access to this than we do and usually do it nicer than we can. In the mean time with the Design Object Access commands you could write this feature in for yourself. We are using these commands more and more

Re: Modal dialog dilemma

am expecting about the June 2018 timeline. Jody > On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:21 AM, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Wow Jody—impressive! So, when does your new shell go on sale? :) > > Robert > > Sent from my iPhone > >> O

Corrupted index and likely record - which Record(s)

I think the terrible power where I live got my data file. It has been corrupted in a way that crashes the application 100% of the time. I have gone to backups, but even old backups seem to have the same problem - strange they ran fine for months. Deleting the Index file and recreating does not

Re: What exactly is the scope of the On err call between 4D server & Client?

On Error Call is process based. Therefore each process needs to call it. Sincerely Jody Bevan > On Jul 7, 2017, at 16:45, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I think I know the answer to this but think I'll ask anyway. > > When my server starts up in installs an error h

Audit Trail

We have written full audit trails with previous applications. They are not simple to ensure everything gets audited, and everything recorded, and then be able to display any record at a point in time. I like the new command LOG FILE to JSON that was added in v15R4. It seems like a great opportu

Re: C-objects and memory use

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:53 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > But I guess the alternative is managing your objects yourself which most > people wouldn't like. Except for some of us oldtimers that are anal. Jody Bevan ARGUS Productions Inc. Developer Argus

Re: C-objects and memory use

I would like that objects created in a specific way could be accessed by worker methods. We store so many settings it is somewhat of a pain to not be able to use them like we do everywhere else. I have not tried this ‘feature’ and until it is a documented feature I likely will not try it. From a

LOG File TO JSON - How does it name the files

I am continuing to create a full featured Audit trail system using 4D Backup Journal file. It is coming along nicely with a viewer telling me it’s progress, and running in a Preemptive Process. Without having to create huge amounts of data to import I am not going to get the JSON file that is g

Re: Bug with Open Document on macOS Sierra

David: Log files - love them too. Saved huge amounts of time to debug code (at least all the bugs I create ;-) ) In our shell I am trying to stay away from plugins - what we and others do with the shell for specific projects after that does not matter. What I have done for logs thus far in the

Re: C-objects and memory use

I understand the documentation issue - I just posted yesterday about a hole in the documentation. Having done a lot of documentation (still doing it), and being the person in charge of all operations I can understand that things fall between the cracks. What would be nice though is that there is

Re: LOG File TO JSON - How does it name the files

the size to "1" and see for yourself: > > $path:=System folder(Desktop) > LOG FILE TO JSON($path;1) > > I got > > JournalExport.json > JournalExport2.json > ... > JournalExport10.json > > so there is not underscore. > >> 2017/07/26 7:09、Jod

Re: User activity

Ferdinand: In another ‘life’ we had several thousand users on Remote Desktop to 4D client. The problem usually was that their connection to the client server was broken (internet problems). They really liked that they could reconnect and their was their work. Therefore we didn’t worry about thi

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