Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-15 Thread Chitrang Srivastava
Hi Bill, Please reduce the NAT table size from Configuration - NAT, to 1024 and try it out. Thanks, Chitrang Srivastava Cambium Networks From: Chitrang Srivastava Sent: 15 July 2015 07:38:49 To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK

Re: [AFMUG] Cat-5 Connectors

2015-07-15 Thread Peter Kranz
We use sentinel 111S08080028C34.. They are very solid, I've never had a problem with them in over a decade.. http://www.sentinelconn.com/ -PK -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Cat-5 Connectors

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
BTW, these guys are a great source for Sentinel connectors (can't vouch for how competitive they are on price): http://www.rj45s.com/ Also, my limited experience with Sentinel connectors is to use their crimp tool or at least a high quality one, or you could bend the contacts instead of

[AFMUG] OT - flying gun

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I know some of you have been dreaming of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqHrTtvFFIs

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm expecting it to work decently or better on 2.5. They've delivered so far. Just be careful until then - it's not simply three commands away right now! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 15, 2015 8:41 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] Cat-5 Connectors

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have not found the price to vary much on the EZ connectors. I think a lot of the price must be a royalty payment to Sullstar. http://www.google.com/patents/US5996224 I usually order from somewhere I am ordering something else to combine shipping, also prefer the jars of 50. Usually I get

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt Mangriotis
The AUX port DOES support alignment tone, but it’s an RJ-45 connector now, so the cable or adapter to connect the headset is a bit different. That spec sheet is a bit of a typo, and a new one will be posted… although it’s worth noting that the PTP 450i will go a LONG way, with high gain

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
We put up a 3.65 connectorized SM with a tan Mars 15x15 panel oriented like a diamond, on some customer’s upscale house that was the exact same color. He was very happy. I just hope he doesn’t tell all his neighbors and they want it too, because it was really too expensive by the time you add

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, I should have stopped reading at “450 Platform Key Features”. From: Matt Mangriotis Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 11:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i Ken – The press release says that the PMP 450 platform supports 3.65 GHz… is that what you’re referring to?

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread SmarterBroadband
Thanks Matt. When can we expect our vendors to have stock of these? Thanks Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i The download site is busted (again).

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Brian Sullivan
Does the Multifunction AUX port mean that the alignment tone is gone? The PTP 450i says the maximum deployment range is Up to 58 to 400 miles minimum, depending on configuration Is that a typo? On 7/15/2015 12:03 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: Production ramp up is occurring now, but it might

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
WTF is that harness. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Under my umbrella On Jul 14, 2015 8:26 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: i

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt Mangriotis
If I were to say that there would be a 12” square flat panel (think about the PMP 450i integrated SM tilted at a 45 degree) for 3.65 GHz available, would there be strong interest in this from this crowd? It would be somewhat more expensive, but would have an integrated 19 dBi flat panel

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt Mangriotis
There is no Lite AP for PMP 450i. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i Key question, is there a 'lite' version of these new AP's? What does it cost? On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
and the PoE injector is an ice cream cone? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Matt Mangriotis matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Gino Villarini
looks like a 8 yr old did the install On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net wrote: Looks like a rubber roof. I bet they had all sorts of comments about not doing anything to that rubber roof. Anytime i ever had a rubber membrane roof it was always pointed

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-15 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Here is why I recommended upgrading to the latest. If I have a problem client like that and some troubleshooting doesn’t fix it I upgrade just that client to the latest. Mikrotik routinely leaves things out of the changeling that were fixed. They are getting better. WMM support has been an

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Looks like a rubber roof. I bet they had all sorts of comments about not doing anything to that rubber roof. Anytime i ever had a rubber membrane roof it was always pointed out how “fragile” that roof was and how expensive it was. Sure a mount like the other one with a longer mast would

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread David
Depends on how you see cost. How fast you want ROI. On 07/15/2015 01:59 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: That would help our Self-Install customers a lot. If it ends up to be much more expensive than SM + $60 reflector dish, it may not be desirable. Cost is a big motivator. On 7/15/2015 1:44 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Self-install always gives me the heebie-jeebies, maybe it’s just a matter of spelling out we don’t come out for free and fix problems that were caused by your install job, and we don’t let your poor signal bog down the whole AP. Anyway, I’m seeing more and more of these metal roofs on

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Adam Moffett
You mean you want to see some test results where in-band, but off channel noise hurts a competitor, but doesn't hurt the 450i? So would I. On 7/15/2015 3:32 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: This sounds good.. but you guys should show us the numbers on both claims.. Jideally PMP450 vs PMP450i vs EPMP

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I've done it once and it's worked out great. Maybe I'll keep it at once. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To:

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Everything but the firmware for 5150. I'd imagine they're waiting on DFS approval to just do one firmware release. Replacing UBNT with ePMP? That's what I've been doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you see what's going on with the update to AC2 Robert promised before end of June (two weeks ago)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Hi Ken - We are planning

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread James Howard
Gotcha! They don’t like expensive roofs that look nice, just expensive roofs that don’t leak. ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 2:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365 Ones that don't leak at any rate. On

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
That's the only way to do it now. It sucks since I want to replace some single pol Mikrotik APs with dual pol, it would be preferred to jump to dual pol Wifi with epmp and then when all the CPEs are moved, go from Wifi to TDD. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
M5 as well. I got the stickers and code a couple week ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Ben Moore
M5 approvals for lower band are done. DFS testing complete, just pending approval. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Is M5 also done except for firmware? Or are you talking about AC Nano/PowerBeams? The silence on this matter is very frustrating. The

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Peter Kranz
Would like to see more information about the 450i interference mitigation advances over the 450.. and PPS/Throughput improvements over the 450. Peter Kranz http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Ben Moore
Yes...Was just discussing this. There was an initial update already in AC2 and next update is planned by end of July (addition of AC, AF, etc...). On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can you see what's going on with the update to AC2 Robert promised

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know about fragile. I have a 300 for tier right next to my building. Last winter I listened to huge chunks of ice fall on it as it thawed for two days. Forth day I went up to take a look. I couldn't tell anything had ever happened to it. Looked as good as new with the exception of a bit

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt
The throughput issues with both bridge mode and especially NAT mode was resolved with 13.2. I think Aaron posted some screenshots while they were working on it. If your linktest gets you say 60x20Mbps, you can get very close to that in bridge mode, NAT mode is slightly less, but it's not as

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Adam Moffett
Same here on self install. I tried it 4 times that I recall. One did everything right, one did everything wrong and needed lots of help, one did everything ok except he didn't plug in the PoE correctly (and was a major ass on the phone about it not working, and didn't have the decency to

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Jon Langeler
Yes, but I would go with a more traditional case and panel approach. Our customer don't really care about industrial design. Price has to make sense. Maybe have the Epmp department help with that one.. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Matt Mangriotis

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Peter Kranz
This sounds good.. but you guys should show us the numbers on both claims.. :) ideally PMP450 vs PMP450i vs EPMP and for extra credit RocketM5-AC and M5-AC-Lite. Peter Kranz http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
It depends on where you're at and if fiber is likely to get there. That's also the attractiveness of the ePMP platform... it's paid for before the caulk dries. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange

[AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Anybody know, has there been any change in status regarding U-NII-1? I've searched the UBNT Forums and can't find anything other than SOON. Ignoring AC series and just focusing on M5, last I heard the products capable of operating in 5150-5250 (without buying bootleg INTL versions) were

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Swap the CPE first? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 2:50:10 PM

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Ben Moore
Hi Ken - We are planning M series release with U-NII-1 prior to DFS (NanoBeam/PowerBeam). Last I heard beta SW will be ~1-2 weeks. Backwards compatibility for AC/M series is in works. I have asked SW team for update on release. Thanks, Ben On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
Ones that don't leak at any rate. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015, 1:27 PM James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote: So you’re telling us that aside from being obsessive they also like REALLY expensive roofs? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman *Sent:* Wednesday, July

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Came with lift ...I have a belt with lanyards around waist. No need for my tower system. On Jul 15, 2015 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: WTF is that harness. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt Mangriotis
We’re employing what we’re calling Dynamic Interference Filtering in this platform… this is actually circuitry that “wraps around” the selected operating channel, effectively isolation noise from all other frequencies. Once you change channels, this filter moves with it. Because this is an

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread James Howard
So you're telling us that aside from being obsessive they also like REALLY expensive roofs? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365 My building is about 6000 sqft and five years

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/15/15 12:27, James Howard wrote: So you�re telling us that aside from being obsessive they also like REALLY expensive roofs? I get that the attraction is you can have water pond in them and it won't leak, but they are really fragile for the price. I frequently see them riddled with

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Jeremy
They apparently have preliminary approval and have started sending out labels, but as of right now there is no movement on firmware development that includes those frequencies. It sounds to me like the OOBE requirements probably make the radios perform like crap, so they are going back and forth

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Same here. Unfortunately Wifi mode doesn't work at all on the AP. That's coming in 2.5 which is supposed to be this year. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is M5 also done except for firmware? Or are you talking about AC Nano/PowerBeams? The silence on this matter is very frustrating. The theories about incorporating DFS and/or trying to make the performance under the new rules not suck sound plausible. But I’m reluctant to buy or deploy any

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread George Skorup
Is the aux port 802.3af output using the data+power scheme on two pairs leaving the spare pairs for timing port sync, tone, etc? Or does the software switch completely change the port from 802.3af to legacy timing port mode? On 7/15/2015 5:21 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: Maybe I am being less

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread George Skorup
The throughput issues with both bridge mode and especially NAT mode was resolved with 13.2. I think Aaron posted some screenshots while they were working on it. If your linktest gets you say 60x20Mbps, you can get very close to that in bridge mode, NAT mode is slightly less, but it's not as

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt
Key question, is there a 'lite' version of these new AP's? What does it cost? On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Matt Mangriotis matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: These are two different products, addressing different markets. Cambium is hard at work getting new products released

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Production ramp up is occurring now, but it might take some time. I would expect deliveries to start mid-August. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 11:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i Thanks Matt.

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt
Are there any MSRP prices available yet on this gear? On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Matt Mangriotis matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: These are two different products, addressing different markets. Cambium is hard at work getting new products released at an increased rate, all

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Pavel Lyuty
Sync only via CMM ? UGPS and other timing-port sync not supported ? 2015-07-15 17:55 GMT+03:00 Matt Mangriotis matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com: These are two different products, addressing different markets. Cambium is hard at work getting new products released at an increased rate,

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Agreed, I have walked on membrane roofs that seemed extremely tough, no signs of damage or degradation even after many years in service. Plus they’re white! And stay white. Big savings on A/C costs. If they are riddled with tiny holes, I’m guessing they are very old, or somebody cut

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Brian Sullivan
It has an AUX port that is Rj-45. No more Rj-11. On 7/15/2015 3:45 PM, Pavel Lyuty wrote: Sync only via CMM ? UGPS and other timing-port sync not supported ? 2015-07-15 17:55 GMT+03:00 Matt Mangriotis matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com:

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
Damn auto correct. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015, 3:17 PM Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Agreed, I have walked on membrane roofs that seemed extremely tough, no signs of damage or degradation even after many years in service. Plus they’re white! And stay white. Big savings on A/C costs. If

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I know I had Mikrotik and Ubnt (NSM2 maybe even Beam400). WiFi is not ready yet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 15, 2015 8:09 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: hmm... weird, I think the most I had on an AP was 5

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Mathew Howard
It was also 5ghz in my case... that also probably makes a difference. That probably explains why it can't be enabled through the GUI yet. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I know I had Mikrotik and Ubnt (NSM2 maybe even Beam400). WiFi is not

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread chuck
I feel sorry for Forrest From: Matt Mangriotis Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 4:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i Maybe I am being less than clear, so apologies for that. There are two RJ-45 ports on this product: 1 port is Data/Power (i.e. the main port) 1

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread George Skorup
Why? I have no doubt he can make a 450i SyncInjector out of his gigabit version. Granted, it's a change to 48/56VDC and port pinout, but he already did that with the 320/430 SyncInjector anyway, although that wasn't gigabit. The other thing he's talked about, a managed device that puts out

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Wifi mode actually does work on the ePMP APs - it's just kind of a pain to enabie (you have to do it through the command line), but it seems to work fine... I've used it a few times to convert towers from UBNT to ePMP. I can dig up the commands if you want to know how to do it. On Wed, Jul 15,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Uh it doesn't work. At all. I had 18 CPEs that would associate but 100 kbps was peak throughout. Mikrotik was solid before but with G rates and one polarity it was about time to upgrade. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 15,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Mathew Howard
hmm... weird, I think the most I had on an AP was 5 CPEs, but they seemed to work fine, and none of the customers complained. All the clients were nanobridges, if that makes a difference. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Uh it doesn't work. At

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Mine was also 5 GHz. I should have said NSM5 but that damn auto correct. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 15, 2015 8:16 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: It was also 5ghz in my case... that also probably makes a

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT status re: 5150-5250

2015-07-15 Thread Mathew Howard
It might just not be able to handle more than a few clients very well then... or it didn't like the Mikrotiks... or I was just lucky. Whatever the case, I'm definitely going to be careful where I use it until they get it working right. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Maybe I am being less than clear, so apologies for that. There are two RJ-45 ports on this product: 1 port is Data/Power (i.e. the main port) 1 port is AUX, which has (or will have) many functions, among them is input/output of the sync pulse (i.e. UGPS) In summary, the radio supports “sync

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt
Good questions. Both CMM4 and UGPS are supported with 450i. True, the 6-pin port became a RJ-45 port, so the pinout is different. Hopefully a sync pipe can be powered by this port? For connecting the CMM4, because the 450i is now powered by 802.3at PoE, you’ll need the 56 VDC power

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread SmarterBroadband
Timing on the power port? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 2:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i Good questions. Both CMM4 and UGPS are supported with 450i. True, the 6-pin port became a RJ-45

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I was about to ask thatdoes moving to 802.3at hurt that at all? On 7/15/2015 5:50 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Timing on the power port? *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Mangriotis *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 2:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread George Skorup
Strong interest, yes, if you can get our cost on it to no more than $350 or so. If it's going to cost more than buying a connectorized SM and a panel antenna, the only reason I'd still be interested in it is to not have to weather seal RF pigtails, but that isn't worth $100-200. And I'm going

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-15 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Very good write up Faisal. Cogent is a perfect example of how to start a network and peer with anyone and everyone you can. Back in the early 2000’s Cogent’s business model was to peer with anyone who would. They were selling dirt cheap Internet then. I was buying a server in Chicago on a

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Right across they mounted mast Same type roof On Jul 15, 2015 7:58 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 7/15/15 6:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Customers with that type of roof are often obsessive. That's putting it far too nicely. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Sean Heskett
Hummm that sprctrum looks much better and I'd expect it to perform a lot better too. What's the recieve signal? Still -63? On Wednesday, July 15, 2015, Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com wrote: the spectrum is now without peaks, but low bandwith.. 2015-07-15 15:37 GMT+02:00 Sean

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Well, there you go. The counterargument to installing new FW right away. From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect 6.30.1 is already released as a bugfix too. On 7/15/2015 9:42 AM, Ken

[AFMUG] Cat-5 Connectors

2015-07-15 Thread Matt
What is everyone using for shielded and unshielded cat-5 connectors and where are you getting them? We currently use mostly EZ which are very expensive. For anyone else using EZ what is the cheapest source you have found for them?

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Press release says it includes 3.65 GHz, I wonder what is the FCC approval status on that? Given that band is kind of in regulatory limbo now until the new rules and spectrum access database get worked out. From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Cat-5 Connectors

2015-07-15 Thread TJ Trout
hit me off list t...@voltbb.com On Jul 15, 2015 8:55 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: What is everyone using for shielded and unshielded cat-5 connectors and where are you getting them? We currently use mostly EZ which are very expensive. For anyone else using EZ what is the

Re: [AFMUG] Wanted: ptp400 integrated.

2015-07-15 Thread Sean Heskett
Hi Lewis, I believe we have a few. My business partner Alan (alan at zirkel dot us) will be contacting you off list. -sean On Wednesday, July 15, 2015, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: So I have I needed for a very low bandwidth link, about two Mbs, and it is isolated enough

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
Why do you have the frequency fixed ? It says you have issues with the wireless conditions. If you have LOS then it is either multipath or interference. Why not set it to applied freq changes and let it do it's magic? On Wed, Jul 15, 2015, 6:50 AM Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Daniel Gerlach
link planner tolds me 240 mbit and that is what i need :( i will try idfs 2015-07-15 15:00 GMT+02:00 David dmilho...@wletc.com: Unfortunately I do not think there is an upgrade to expand the band on the PTP600. Depending on how much throughput you really need you could try a smaller channel

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
Did you enter an appropriate interference db? On Wed, Jul 15, 2015, 7:12 AM Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com wrote: with idfs same low bandwith..we have on this tower 4 PTP 600 maybe we should TDM Traffic? 2015-07-15 15:01 GMT+02:00 Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com: link

[AFMUG] WTB: Cambium Networks - PTP 600 SYNC - PTP-SYNC Synchronization Unit for PTP 600

2015-07-15 Thread Daniel Gerlach
did somebody have them used?

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/15/15 6:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Customers with that type of roof are often obsessive. That's putting it far too nicely. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread David
Definitely looks as if there is some interference possibly some OOB from some adj site On 07/15/2015 07:50 AM, Daniel Gerlach wrote: can somebody have a look on the pictures and can tell why the modulation is so low :( spectrum is free..and LOS what does this peaks can be.. THX a lot

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread David
Unfortunately I do not think there is an upgrade to expand the band on the PTP600. Depending on how much throughput you really need you could try a smaller channel size. On 07/15/2015 07:50 AM, Daniel Gerlach wrote: can somebody have a look on the pictures and can tell why the modulation is

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
That is a TPL roof. I put one on a few years ago and it is very expensive. Having said that, a non poem mount works on them just like anything else. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015, 8:14 PM Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Saw this on top of an Army barracks. Installed by Chaparral Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Daniel Gerlach
with idfs same low bandwith..we have on this tower 4 PTP 600 maybe we should TDM Traffic? 2015-07-15 15:01 GMT+02:00 Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com: link planner tolds me 240 mbit and that is what i need :( i will try idfs 2015-07-15 15:00 GMT+02:00 David dmilho...@wletc.com:

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Daniel Gerlach
thx david i will try 2015-07-15 15:26 GMT+02:00 David dmilho...@wletc.com: I would try link planner with all 4 links in there with the PTP-sync selected and see what you get. If they are all ptp600 then using ptpsync with them should help to resolve any near/close interference of your self

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Sean Heskett
On the local side you have a lot of noise. Although the the constant noise on the channel shows as -90-ish (shown as the solid blue bars) the radio is seeing -70-ish peak noise (shown as the black I beams). Your receive signal is -63 so you only have about 10db signal above the noise. If you

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Cambium Networks - PTP 600 SYNC - PTP-SYNC Synchronization Unit for PTP 600

2015-07-15 Thread David
Give surplus a call 1-888-490-3645 https://swginc.net/ On 07/15/2015 08:22 AM, Daniel Gerlach wrote: did somebody have them used?

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Matt
Are these coming for the 2.4 and 3.5 GHZ bands? 900 MHZ? On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Matt Mangriotis matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: These are two different products, addressing different markets. Cambium is hard at work getting new products released at an increased rate,

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah they max out way before the AP does...30meg might be rightbut we're not usually selling more than that to one customer. There's room in the market for a higher end SM for sure. On 7/15/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Higher peak Tx power also brings about higher Tx power at max

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-15 Thread Chitrang Srivastava
Hi George, Did you get chance to check Gps sync issue with 13.4 Build? From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com Sent: 14 July 2015 10:23:46 To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Thanks, I guess I’ll have to try that. I can’t keep up. I thought 6.29 was the latest. From: Justin Wilson - MTIN Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect Here is why I recommended upgrading to the latest. If

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
If the noise is -73 you're at 10 snr... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 15, 2015 10:48 AM, Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com wrote: yes still -63 2015-07-15 16:05 GMT+02:00 Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us: Hummm that

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* The press release prompted the question. It seems like a 450di would be the ideal 450 CPE. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Matt Mangriotis

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
changedetection.org is your friend... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-15 Thread Nate Burke
6.30.1 is already released as a bugfix too. On 7/15/2015 9:42 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Thanks, I guess I’ll have to try that. I can’t keep up. I thought 6.29 was the latest. *From:* Justin Wilson - MTIN mailto:li...@mtin.net *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 600 5.8 ghz Problem

2015-07-15 Thread Daniel Gerlach
yes still -63 2015-07-15 16:05 GMT+02:00 Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us: Hummm that sprctrum looks much better and I'd expect it to perform a lot better too. What's the recieve signal? Still -63? On Wednesday, July 15, 2015, Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com wrote: the spectrum is

Re: [AFMUG] Purewave 365

2015-07-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
My building is about 6000 sqft and five years ago it cost about $90k to put mine on. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015, 8:37 AM Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 15, 2015 7:58 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 7/15/15 6:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Customers with that type

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