Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread George Skorup
As far as the alignment tone, I'm not sure. I thought they fixed that for 13.4.1. Am I remembering that the tone uses the AP BER or beacons frames? Maybe there's something going on there. I would try 14.1.2 on a 430 and see if it works. On 10/19/2016 10:33 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: OK, that

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread George Skorup
Yeah, CNUT, the various releases, upgrade paths, etc. is a pain and can be confusing. So you have 430 and 450 APs deployed. The only package added to or enabled in your package list is say 14.1.2. If you enable auto-update on the 430 APs, it should say no packages available. If you have

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
what caused tones to stop working anyway, i dont remember the history on it, i loved them for the fsk stuff when i was installing, but new guy techs didnt care and broke the toners all the time so i quit making them On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > OK, that

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
As did Al Gore in 2000? - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics] He fucked himself with vote question... On Oct 19, 2016 8:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
You respect the office, not the man or woman. I... I'm done. I don't think I want to be in any more discussion at all about this election or any others at this point on here. What. The. Fuck. On Oct 19, 2016 11:29 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > a mutt is a

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
a mutt is a lowlife , and i wouldnt have called him that prior to this election, when he turned his position of authority into a political platform for demeaning the integrity of the election process he lost the privilege of his position (even after he blatantly lied to the american population and

Re: [AFMUG] OT POLITICS

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
"I have two boys at home - my young son, and my husband." - Melania Trump -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT POLITICS For the record... I did not watch the

Re: [AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

2016-10-19 Thread TJ Trout
keep 'em coming On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:47 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > awesome guys! > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Tushar Patel wrote: > >> 3400 for 180 miles, level 3, via amcom. >> >> >> >> Tushar >> >> >> > On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:07 PM, Roland Houin

Re: [AFMUG] OT POLITICS

2016-10-19 Thread Bill Prince
For the record... I did not watch the debate because it is darn near impossible that it would have changed my mind. Squirrel hair is a chump and a loser. He can not stay on message to save his life. I watched the synopsis of the "debate" on PBS tonight, and to a man, woman, whoever, they were

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
The first time I ignored it. The second time I did a double take and though "did he really just call the President of the United States a MUTT?"!? As an American citizen, I'm ashamed of that and I didn't even say it. As a combat veteran, that was my Commander-In-Chief - saying that in uniform,

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Sean Heskett
Jamie your antenna porn is always so frikin sexy  -Sean On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Ha... Touche' , but I rarely watch CNN... I am a voracious reader and > watch several news programs... Yes I left home at 5 am to go install some >

[AFMUG] OT POLITICS

2016-10-19 Thread Sean Heskett
Trump travels through time to debate Reagan and George H.W. Bush https://youtu.be/A_BTODUEhPk Damn I never in my life would have thought Reagan and Bush 41 would sound so much like modern democrats. Maybe it's just good editing...or maybe the wheels have completely come off the modern Republican

Re: [AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

2016-10-19 Thread TJ Trout
awesome guys! On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Tushar Patel wrote: > 3400 for 180 miles, level 3, via amcom. > > > > Tushar > > > > On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:07 PM, Roland Houin wrote: > > > > 3400 for 100 mile, windstream via gigalinx > > 5 year term > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
youre a rapist or criminal? because thats who he said were bad. I think youre lying, you dont commit crimes and rape. you drank the cnn koolaid and let them feed you your ideas, actual audio recordings of what was said be damned. I really dont know how you have time to watch cnn with all the

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Drink the Kool Aide dude, keep listening to Rush, Hannity, Dobbs, etc... When you can frame an erudite and lucid comment, observation or unique thought, let me know.Meanwhile I will continue to be a bad hombre as Trump said. On Oct 19, 2016 9:25 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
two questions can you secure an email server? do you consider yourself a cyber-terrorism expert? dont you thin a prerequisite for answering yes to the latter would be being able to answer yes to the former? On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, that makes sense, especially about 13.4.1 being the end of the line for FSK and 430 AP. I’ll have to try that on the bench. I hate over-the-air experiments that might result in truck rolls and pissed off customers. I have been wondering what happens if I do auto update via an AP

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Rats run, the "establishment" is full of rats, so are swamps. Military personnel captured bin laden, the mutt in the whitehouse was playing spades, he didnt capture anybody, he didnt collect intelligence, he didnt build any of the infrastructure used to gather intel, he didnt build the operative

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Sean Heskett
Really...that's interesting George. I guess I never tried since there wasn't a .pkg file. Good to know!!! Ken cambium is very un-clear about all of it for sure...it's not just you ;) -Sean On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, George Skorup wrote: > I have taken 430 SMs to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, I’ll dig some more. I do have to say to Cambium, why do you make important things so confusing? Part of the fault may be on the part of the confusee not the confuser. But the same thing happened to me on auto update via the AP if you have the IP address on the SM configured as “Public”,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread George Skorup
I have taken 430 SMs to 14.x on the bench. 11.2 > 12.1 > 13.4.1 > 14.1.2. 450, 450i and 430 *SM* uses the same package file. The various images are all rolled together in the pxp45x pkg3's. 13.4.1 is the end of the road for the 430 *AP*. And FSK. On 10/19/2016 10:14 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
9 is not a big number to have lied, which they are, many have been debunked, like the one who should have known little details like whether armrests lift up or not if youre going to throw in a detail theyre lying he never said a thing about sexual assault, he specifically said "They will let

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Email server= BFD On Oct 19, 2016 9:20 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > You called our president a mutt? Real patriot... Who the fuck got Bin > Laden? I have the balls to admit Hillary is not perfect... But Trump is a > fucking idiot... When have you seen so many

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
You called our president a mutt? Real patriot... Who the fuck got Bin Laden? I have the balls to admit Hillary is not perfect... But Trump is a fucking idiot... When have you seen so many Republicans distance themselves from their nominee, even vote for other candidate? He doesn't know shit

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Sean Heskett
There isn't a .pkg file for OFDM 430 after 13.4.1 Also it's somewhere in the release notes or user manual but it's been a while since I've read them and I don't remember which version started talking about it. It could have been in some of the beta release notes because we beta tested most of

Re: [AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

2016-10-19 Thread Tushar Patel
3400 for 180 miles, level 3, via amcom. Tushar > On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:07 PM, Roland Houin wrote: > > 3400 for 100 mile, windstream via gigalinx > 5 year term > > roland > >> What is the going rate for 10G of long haul transport today? I've heard it >> may > be down

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, that provides some clarity but also more confusion. Not sure I’m looking at the same document as you, I see Introduction on page 5. But in the 14.1.2 release notes, I see nothing about 430 at all. In the 14.2.1 release notes, I do see a Note that 430 SMs must first go to 14.1.2

Re: [AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

2016-10-19 Thread Roland Houin
3400 for 100 mile, windstream via gigalinx 5 year term roland > What is the going rate for 10G of long haul transport today? I've heard it may be down in the $2500 range? If you have received a competitive quote recently could you give me a ball park and who the provider was? Direct or through

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
That's right out of Rush Limbos crap show Even one is too fucking much. .I don't how you were raised but you don't touch women without their consent. I shared on this list how my youngest daughter elbowed and then knockout punched an asshole who grabbed her last month at work event. Police

[AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

2016-10-19 Thread TJ Trout
What is the going rate for 10G of long haul transport today? I've heard it may be down in the $2500 range? If you have received a competitive quote recently could you give me a ball park and who the provider was? Direct or through sales channel?

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
17 government and private individuals like the private individuals who managed your email server Hilary? or the private individuals managing your campaigns emails? I have to take pause in placing a huge amount of faith in anyone who cant maintain the integrity of an email server and still

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I seem to recall stuxnet was sourced to russia by those very same sources. you know, until it turned out it was us and isreal I have no question russias involved, but spearheaded by putin directly? come on, did those 17 hack putins emails where he issued the orders? what happenned to china?

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lol yeah, ICE is an entity, it cant really edorse anybody, the union that represents it endorsed him. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > And ICE Did Not endorse him... Get the facts > > On Oct 19, 2016 8:42 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
So 17 sources on Russian hacking are wrong and he is correct?Didn't we arrest a Russian hacker in Europe today ? Of course in HIS mind he is smarter than our military and intelligence folks. On Oct 19, 2016 8:45 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > And ICE Did Not

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
9 is not a big number go ask police in major murder investigations how many people confess to the crime who didnt do it. and thats just crazy people. Feminazis on the other hand alot of those types have 5-10 "date rapes" under their belt On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
And ICE Did Not endorse him... Get the facts On Oct 19, 2016 8:42 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > I will keep you in suspense.Wow > > On Oct 19, 2016 8:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> He fucked himself with vote question... >> >> On

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
I will keep you in suspense.Wow On Oct 19, 2016 8:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > He fucked himself with vote question... > > On Oct 19, 2016 8:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> Goes to character...cheat on wife cheat on all >> >> On

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
He fucked himself with vote question... On Oct 19, 2016 8:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Goes to character...cheat on wife cheat on all > > On Oct 19, 2016 8:13 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > >> I don't know. I don't about laughing. I think

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Goes to character...cheat on wife cheat on all On Oct 19, 2016 8:13 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > I don't know. I don't about laughing. I think they are likely shocked and > fearful. > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, 9:07 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> We

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Sean Heskett
Software release notes for 14.2.1 in the introduction on page 3 gives the best description. (I think it's on or near the same page with the other releases but I'm on my phone so it's hard to scan thru them all) The update has to be done over the air thru SMs auto update tho. You can't upgrade a

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread George Skorup
14.x works on 430 SMs in interop mode only. Like Sean said, if you want them to talk to a 430 AP again, they'll have to be downgraded to 13.4.1 manually. But if all of your 430 APs are now out of the picture, who cares. Yes, 15.0 is for the 450m, but it's also required for 450 and 450i SMs to

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
It's your perspective.. She is not great but her answers are better and based on fact. He denies 9 women claims. Really? 9. Not one not two. 9. On Oct 19, 2016 8:13 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > I don't know. I don't about laughing. I think they are likely

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know. I don't about laughing. I think they are likely shocked and fearful. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, 9:07 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: > We have two lying, cheating, disrespectful sociopaths on stage right now. > Neither one can answer a straight question with a straight

Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Robert
It's worse than a laughing stock... We were supposed to be the example of how this sort of government was supposed to work... Now we are going to be the example used by people saying that other forms of government are going to be better for the people. Right now, I'm not sure they are not

[AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
We have two lying, cheating, disrespectful sociopaths on stage right now. Neither one can answer a straight question with a straight answer. They BOTH likely belong in jail, not running for the highest office in the United States. This is terrible. Disgraceful. We are the laughing stock of the

Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans

2016-10-19 Thread Rory Conaway
We don’t have concrete but we do have blocks and non-pens, 3 different types. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans You carry concrete, poles, cinder blocks, and

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Do you have a link to that? I just checked and 14.1.2, 14.2.1 and 15.0 all say 450/450i/450m no mention of 430, also on the download page if you select 430 the latest FW shown is 13.4.1. We gained a lot of stability with 14.1.2 and it would be nice if we could bring the 430 SMs up to that.

[AFMUG] Hey Sam I Am... Going to meeting?

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hey Sam are you going to high speed broadband meeting in Santa Few this Friday?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Sean Heskett
Thru auto update from the AP over the air 430 SMs can and should be brought up to whatever firmware the AP is using. If you need to connect the 430SM back to a 430 AP you'll need to manually downgrade the SM to 13.4.1 tho. It's in all the 14.x release notes. -Sean On Wednesday, October 19,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Pasoarrested

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I might have to convert, all us Christians got were graham crackers, no high end cookies On Oct 19, 2016 6:01 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > When I was in kindergarten, we all had little rugs for nap time. Maybe my > parents didn’t tell me we were Muslims? We also got milk and

[AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
We have changed out all our 430 Aps for 450i, but still have a bunch of 430 SMs running in 450 compatibility mode. My techs keep telling me when they do service calls, that alignment tone is broken on those SMs. The first time I figured bad hardware since some roofers had bonked the dish, but as

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Pasoarrested

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
When I was in kindergarten, we all had little rugs for nap time. Maybe my parents didn’t tell me we were Muslims? We also got milk and Salerno butter cookies at snack time, is that a Muslim ritual? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, October

Re: [AFMUG] 1G/10G switch won't negotiate 1g on sfp

2016-10-19 Thread TJ Trout
show interface port shows it's fixed 1000,full,auto-off but when the port goes down it changes back to auto-on, I think that is a feature I read in the manual somewhere. Or maybe it's only when I remove the transceiver, it's been a long week, maybe that's normal? On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:20 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 5Ghz

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
Power Beam AC 620? On Oct 19, 2016 3:18 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Does anyone have a set of UBNT dishes and radios for a PTP link that I can > buy? > > Or suggest a retail complete package for a link up to $500 total? >

[AFMUG] PTP 5Ghz

2016-10-19 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Does anyone have a set of UBNT dishes and radios for a PTP link that I can buy? Or suggest a retail complete package for a link up to $500 total?

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Jonathan Swift was on to something. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common Eat your children? I know what that means from a business point of view... bp On 10/19/2016 12:07 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Bill Prince
Eat your children? I know what that means from a business point of view... bp On 10/19/2016 12:07 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Had a lunch time conversation about hunting which evolved to preppers which evolved to whatcha gonna do when the zombies come for you/end

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Had a lunch time conversation about hunting which evolved to preppers which evolved to whatcha gonna do when the zombies come for you/end times etc. I decided that I will start a new survivalist philosophy called Donnerism. Learn to love your neighbor in ways you have never previously

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Datura plants grew in my back yard when I first bought my second home On Oct 19, 2016 12:45 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I'll trade you for some Bison. > > On Oct 19, 2016 1:44 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> did someone say peyote?!

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'll trade you for some Bison. On Oct 19, 2016 1:44 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > did someone say peyote?! > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > >> I have these three sea shells and some peyote. Can we trade? >>

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
did someone say peyote?! On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I have these three sea shells and some peyote. Can we trade? > > On Oct 19, 2016 12:42 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> Screw your tribe, I have the conch... >> >> *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Pasoarrested

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
They are not coming through border... I work with border patrol allot... They fly into big cities... I see detainees from all over the world at center. Don't add fuel to fire... On Oct 19, 2016 12:25 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Or maybe sometimes a rug is just a rug. > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Pasoarrested

2016-10-19 Thread Adam Moffett
Or maybe sometimes a rug is just a rug. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/19/2016 1:39:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Pasoarrested It got hot, you got tired and thirsty. From:Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Paso arrested

2016-10-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Maybe because it is being left around by the folks hired by the State Dept. to make it look so.. http://www.infowars.com/flashback-cia-admits-to-staging-fake-jihadist-videos/ Contrary to popular belief, prayer rugs are not a requirement for a Muslim to be able to perform his or her

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
Small beamwidth, but high bandwidth? On Oct 19, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > If she saw the size of my Fresnel, I think she would probably quickly > change frequency > > (what does that even mean??) > > On 10/18/2016 3:59 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >> >> I would

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown
If she saw the size of my Fresnel, I think she would probably quickly change frequency (what does that even mean??) On 10/18/2016 3:59 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I would still bang her and we would shout various WISP terms and RF jargon like "Flick my Fresnel!" the entire

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
I have these three sea shells and some peyote. Can we trade? On Oct 19, 2016 12:42 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Screw your tribe, I have the conch... > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:52 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot but

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Screw your tribe, I have the conch... From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common Once upon a time, we had tribes. They lived together, believed in the same things, had the same language, same problems, etc. Same ethnic,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Pasoarrested

2016-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown
It got hot, you got tired and thirsty. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Pasoarrested but why would a prayer rug be left in the desert? If you carried it that far, why drop it?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Paso arrested

2016-10-19 Thread Adam Moffett
but why would a prayer rug be left in the desert? If you carried it that far, why drop it? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/19/2016 1:33:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Paso arrested I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2 suspected ISIS recruits heading to El Paso arrested

2016-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown
I have a friend who is the head of the border patrol union, in Yuma, I think. He claims that the Islamic folks are a big and increasing number of illegal crossings. They find prayer rugs out in the desert all the time. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:41 PM To: Animal

Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown
I have heard of desired items being purchased, expensed, and show up missing... From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] day labor legalities NOT looking to skirt the system I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 except I do want modern medicine and sanitation. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/19/2016 12:52:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common Once upon a time, we had tribes. They lived together, believed in the same

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
Once upon a time, we had tribes. They lived together, believed in the same things, had the same language, same problems, etc. Same ethnic, religious, geographic ties. And so on.. We still have tribes now, but the individuals in these tribes might be separated geographically by vast differences.

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I unfriend you. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common It really is a shame that we’ve been conditioned to default to establishing our own world of confirmation bias.

Re: [AFMUG] Ot but common

2016-10-19 Thread Chris Wright
It really is a shame that we’ve been conditioned to default to establishing our own world of confirmation bias. We tailor our social media by liking posts we agree with, and unfriending (or at least muting) posters of contrary material. We create our own personal worlds of yes-people and

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Cameron Crum
If the spot is still hot, you are doing better than most. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Chris Wright wrote: > Only if it can handle jumbo packets. > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Chris Wright
Only if it can handle jumbo packets. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick! World’s lamest pickup line: Want to come back to my place and

Re: [AFMUG] Ip, console server?

2016-10-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/19/16 08:25, Ken Hohhof wrote: Once they stopped putting serial ports on laptops, I always dreaded dragging out the USB-serial dongle and trying to make it work. Now I have a laptop that doesn't even have an Ethernet port, luckily the Best Buy house brand USB3-GigE dongle I picked up

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
World’s lamest pickup line: Want to come back to my place and see my hotspot? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick! at least Lewis didnt talk about how

Re: [AFMUG] Ip, console server?

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Baird
Do you use these on a cellular network? If so, which? Do they give you a public IP so you can connect directly to the OpenGear box? On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Steve wrote: > We use opengear. Really good stuff. It even logs the console. Cellular, > wireless etc

Re: [AFMUG] Ip, console server?

2016-10-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Those look very nice. Hard to believe we are still using serial ports though. Even Cisco gear for some time now has had USB console ports. Once they stopped putting serial ports on laptops, I always dreaded dragging out the USB-serial dongle and trying to make it work. Now I have a laptop

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
at least Lewis didnt talk about how he can just grab her by the polarity On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > It's all clear to me now. > > > bp > > > > On 10/19/2016 4:36 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > Wow...just noticed that one

Re: [AFMUG] Ip, console server?

2016-10-19 Thread Steve
We use opengear. Really good stuff. It even logs the console. Cellular, wireless etc etc.. too many features to mention here. Little pricey. http://opengear.com/products/acm5500-management-gateway - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird" To: "af"

Re: [AFMUG] 1G/10G switch won't negotiate 1g on sfp

2016-10-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Have you tried to put the "duplex full" command under the interface port settings via the CLI ? I know changing it from the web interface does not keep the setting 'persistently'. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Bill Prince
It's all clear to me now. bp On 10/19/2016 4:36 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Wow...just noticed that one guy WTH'd me. I now realize how out of bounds that was. I apologize to Donald Trump for not going far enough and to everyone else for going way to far. On

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Cameron Crum
That sound like it needs to be included in a new chapter of 50 Shades of Gain. What do you think Chuck, need a co-author? On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Ha Funny man so early That's cool > > On Oct 19, 2016 5:36 AM, "Lewis Bergman"

Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-19 Thread Daniel White
Even easier to COY and send one regardless. Especially if you’re talking about a few people. In past jobs if I needed temp labor I used temp labor agencies so I didn’t have to worry about anything. Yes you pay more, but there is no paperwork or legal headache to worry about. Daniel

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha Funny man so early That's cool On Oct 19, 2016 5:36 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Wow...just noticed that one guy WTH'd me. I now realize how out of bounds > that was. I apologize to Donald Trump for not going far enough and to > everyone else for going way to

Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
That is $600 a year, not am occurrence I think. Have them fill out the form and file and send it if they exceed it. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 11:19 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > i just need the guys, the boss said hed pay them, id prefer to not get my > boss put in

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
Wow...just noticed that one guy WTH'd me. I now realize how out of bounds that was. I apologize to Donald Trump for not going far enough and to everyone else for going way to far. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, 6:32 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Shhh... My wife is still asleep > >

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Shhh... My wife is still asleep On Oct 19, 2016 5:06 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Every once in a while you have to let your wildly innappropriate side out. > Seriously though, to us, that is an interesting project she is running. I > doubt many are interested. She

Re: [AFMUG] my kind of chick!

2016-10-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
Every once in a while you have to let your wildly innappropriate side out. Seriously though, to us, that is an interesting project she is running. I doubt many are interested. She doesn't a little time explaining why she cares but it didn't seem like enough to justify the effort. On the lighter

Re: [AFMUG] 1G/10G switch won't negotiate 1g on sfp

2016-10-19 Thread Paul Stewart
Sounds like software bug - roll a ticket with IBM and ask them … make sure latest recommended software is on switch (typically) which according to what I can see is 7.7.5.0 from 2013 > On Oct 19, 2016, at 3:58 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > > I have a newly deployed ibm g8124 switch

Re: [AFMUG] 1G/10G switch won't negotiate 1g on sfp

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
Order a few generics and maybe 1 or 2 "IBM compatible" optics from fiberstore and give it a shot. Short of that, maybe there's a way to modify this behavior? That's a really poor design choice if not. On Oct 19, 2016 2:59 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > I have a newly deployed ibm

[AFMUG] 1G/10G switch won't negotiate 1g on sfp

2016-10-19 Thread TJ Trout
I have a newly deployed ibm g8124 switch and all of the ports auto default to auto negotiation if the port flaps, I have several 1G copper sfp, and several 10G DAC/SFP that always work flawlessly but i have one single 1G sfp that won't come up unless I manually disable auto negotiation then it