Re: [AFMUG] another grounding scenario ??
The electricians that I have spoken with say bond to existing power ground and then pound another rod right at your connection. That is what we've always done. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: We are doing a new tower. Here’s the layout Customer house (Building “A”) has a small building (Building “B” for discussion purposes) about 150 feet away from main house. “B” has a sub-panel and 5 live breakers for various things. There is a 6 gauge ground wire between “B” and the Customer house. “B” connects to another “tack / feeding house” (Building “C”) about 60 feet away with another subpanel running off “B” using a 8 gauge ground wire between those two panels. Neither “B” nor “C” has a ground rod, so they are relying on ground that is ultimately, going back to the Customers house. Our tower box is going to be 200 feet away from Building “C” and because of practicalities, going back to “B” instead is not possible even if we thought that was best. So, I am running 4 gauge wire as our ground from our box to “C” but am concerned about making sure the ground is handled from that point on. An electrician on-site said that each building should actually have its own “local ground” (his simple answer was “drive a ground rod”) . The question I have is does that make sense as a complete (best solution)… making sure that Panel “C” is well grounded (and “B” too just for good measure) ?? In the single source ground concept, is his suggestion still make the best sense? Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac
Just tell him that your Internet will energize his seventh chakra, thereby
counteracting the retrograde of mercury. Also, it will make his aura glow
light blue. Not blues screen of death bluedon't get those confused.
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
I should tell some of my Alabama jokes...
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/7/2015 2:27 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
Thank God for California and Texas.
Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Nah, we reserve the laughing stock designation for California.Keep
up the good work and Texas might catch up eventually.
Mark
On 5/7/15 2:43 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Hey better than wackos in Texas who think ISIL has training camp in
Juarez, Abbot asking Texas Guard to monitor military exercises so the
wackos guns aren't confiscated and folks locked up in abandoned Wal Mart
secret tunnels! !! We are the laughing stock of the world.I prefer the
Zodiac craziness.
Jaime Solorza
On May 7, 2015 10:43 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:
af...@ics-il.net wrote:
huh?
People...
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Mike Hammett
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*From: *Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
*To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 11:42:11 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac
Had a new one today. Customer want's our service, but won't let us
install for 4 weeks because 'Mercury is going into Retrograde,
and if
you install it during that time it just won't work'
I wonder if it Breaks during a Retrograde if he'll let us come
fix it
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Mark Radabaugh
m...@amplex.net
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Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
I put conduit and breakout boxes up every tower / silo / grain elevator. It has been awesome. I run a ton of extra cables and two or three extra mule tape to each box as well. When the extra cables get used it is cake to pull a new one, and then I leave the 2nd mule tape in the box and pull it back through the next time, so there is always one in there. Also, when it comes time to run fiber to every AP (hey, one can always dream) it will be super easy. I can't imagine ever building out any other way now. I started out using grey pvc conduit, but have since graduated to shielded liqui-tite. The pvc conduit, male adapters, and boxes ran about $100 per site. The shielded 1 1/2 liqui-tite runs about $400-600 per site. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: That's what happens to my Dad's peach trees. Nope, that' one's not ripe. Let's try this one. Nope. Hey, there's another. Darnit. Ken Hohhof wrote: Yeah, that would be better. Squirrels are very inquisitive and persistent creatures. They would probably bite all your other cables to determine if they get shocks from all of them. I used to have pear trees. The squirrels would take one bite out of each green pear to see if it was ripe. *From:* Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable I'd run the cable thru liquidtight conduit. On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto: af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much voltage\amperage on the cable's shield could the radio handle without messing up? Since these squirrels like chewing cables, I'd like to give them a shocking experience! Hook a cheap fence charger to the ground wire of the SS chassis? ;-) Note: I don't actually intend on doing that... not because of the squirrels, but because I don't wanna jack up the radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X
Yeah, it just kind of barely sits there, but it isn't going anywhere. It definitely doesn't 'lock' in. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Is it flimsy at all? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins. They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS connector being in the way, but you can use them on any antenna you want. There's nothing proprietary about them. Just need pigtails and a method of mounting. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:38:01 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Can the 5x be installed on older Ubnt rocket 30 dbi dishes? or would I need to install new dishes to accommodate the new radios? On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, you have to use different channels for RX and TX... which can also be a significant advantage in some cases. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: In Ubiquiti's version of FDD, is it different channel range for the Rx? The risk there is anyone else sees that channel as clear. Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I've been seeing 1-2ms on out AF5x link, not quite as good as an AF5 in FDD, but better than any other synced radio I've seen. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:03 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I have one AF5 up running FDD in the DFS band at 3.4 miles. We didn't want to try to push an AF24 that far. RTT average is around 0.8ms, so yes, like a licensed radio. No idea about the AF5X, haven't bought any. But I'd guess latency would be similar to the AF5 or 24 in half-duplex mode, which is going to be like 4-5ms. I have only done FDD though.. because it's moar better. On 5/4/2015 5:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: So I assume latency in FDD mode is sub millisecond like a licensed backhaul? What's is latency like on the AF5X? Similar to a PTP600, a few milliseconds and very constant? -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what you give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower power, and drop-in replacement for a Rocket? I know it doesn't have the built-in high isolation TX and RX antennas, and doesn't do a gig of throughput. But I'm sure there's more to it. It's not jumping out at me on the UBNT website. -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X
My adapter kits just shipped yesterday from Streakwave, so I am not sure yet. These ones that I sent a picture of are modified feedhorns. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: What about if you use their adapter kit (the one that also converts to dual slant)? I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though? *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins. They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS connector being in the way, but you can use them on any antenna you want. There's nothing proprietary about them. Just need pigtails and a method of mounting. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:38:01 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Can the 5x be installed on older Ubnt rocket 30 dbi dishes? or would I need to install new dishes to accommodate the new radios? On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, you have to use different channels for RX and TX... which can also be a significant advantage in some cases. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: In Ubiquiti's version of FDD, is it different channel range for the Rx? The risk there is anyone else sees that channel as clear. Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I've been seeing 1-2ms on out AF5x link, not quite as good as an AF5 in FDD, but better than any other synced radio I've seen. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:03 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I have one AF5 up running FDD in the DFS band at 3.4 miles. We didn't want to try to push an AF24 that far. RTT average is around 0.8ms, so yes, like a licensed radio. No idea about the AF5X, haven't bought any. But I'd guess latency would be similar to the AF5 or 24 in half-duplex mode, which is going to be like 4-5ms. I have only done FDD though.. because it's moar better. On 5/4/2015 5:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: So I assume latency in FDD mode is sub millisecond like a licensed backhaul? What's is latency like on the AF5X? Similar to a PTP600, a few milliseconds and very constant? -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what you give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower power, and drop-in replacement for a Rocket? I know it doesn't have the built-in high isolation TX and RX antennas, and doesn't do a gig of throughput. But I'm sure there's more to it. It's not jumping out at me on the UBNT website. -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question
Looks sweet. Price? Anyone used one? On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Seems to have all you want plus more! http://www.alpha.ca/web2/products/standard-systems/dc-power-solutions/item/cordex-psu From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question The install instructions for it also mention a battery test, but like the other BCM units there's minimal information on how the test operates. I asked Traco for more information on the test it does. Maybe it's the same process as the TLB-BC I mentioned earlier today, just not documented as such. If that's the case, the BCMU seems like a slam dunk. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, May 9, 2015 4:22:22 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question Am I understanding that unit correctly? It has a step-up converter from the battery, so unlike the BCM-12/24/48, the output will always be regulated 24 or 48 volts, not battery voltage? Also that it only needs a 12V battery? And can work with any DC power supply since unlike the BCM it doesn’t control the power supply output voltage? *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Saturday, May 09, 2015 4:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question This is where the BCMU-360 makes sense, 24 or 48v in one unit. On 5/9/2015 1:16 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I believe the BCM does have a battery test, maybe not as fancy. My reaction is 60W is kind of low, plus I can use 3 different sizes of TSP from 90 to 360W with the same BCM or alone as just a power supply or add the BCM later. And if it fails, I only have to replace the failed unit. And if the BCM fails, the site can run on just the TSP if I don’t have a spare. And there is a 48V version of the BCM. So it seems more flexible. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Saturday, May 09, 2015 12:22 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Another DC Question Has anyone looked at the Traco TBL-BC before? It seems to do a lot things other than basic battery charging and even temperature compensation. It's not all that big, but may be good for repeater sites. Seems to be about the same cost for a bigger power supply and regular BCM as this guy, but the alternative wouldn't have the battery testing system. http://www.powergatellc.com/pdfs/TBL-BC.pdf - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix
Re: [AFMUG] 30 or 45 degree Dual-Pol sector - 5 Ghz
I thought MTI had one? That is what DigiJabRise is isung around here on their 450s... On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Hence micropops. If you need a 40ft or less tower/pole to cover both near and far and small beamwidths (30-60ish), they are your best bet. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/11/2015 10:59 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: I find them low on gain From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Monday, May 11, 2015 at 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 30 or 45 degree Dual-Pol sector - 5 Ghz In ~ August or so the RF Elements horns should be out. I'm itching to get my hands on them for microcell 802.11-AC deployments. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/11/2015 10:48 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: Yeah me too! Only thing I've found is the UBNT 45* and the KP performance.� But they both have butt ugly patterns especially for how narrow the sector is. � I was hoping Mars had something but I haven't found anything yet. -seen� On Monday, May 11, 2015, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Looking for a good narrow Dual-Pol sector in 5 Ghz. � Any suggestions? � � � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net �
Re: [AFMUG] 30 or 45 degree Dual-Pol sector - 5 Ghz
or 'using' even On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought MTI had one? That is what DigiJabRise is isung around here on their 450s... On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Hence micropops. If you need a 40ft or less tower/pole to cover both near and far and small beamwidths (30-60ish), they are your best bet. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/11/2015 10:59 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: I find them low on gain From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Monday, May 11, 2015 at 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 30 or 45 degree Dual-Pol sector - 5 Ghz In ~ August or so the RF Elements horns should be out. I'm itching to get my hands on them for microcell 802.11-AC deployments. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/11/2015 10:48 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: Yeah me too! Only thing I've found is the UBNT 45* and the KP performance.� But they both have butt ugly patterns especially for how narrow the sector is. � I was hoping Mars had something but I haven't found anything yet. -seen� On Monday, May 11, 2015, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Looking for a good narrow Dual-Pol sector in 5 Ghz. � Any suggestions? � � � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net �
Re: [AFMUG] epmp lockups
Bah! Too much coffee. I don't have any ePMP. I just saw 2.4GHz. Ours are all ubnt and do not lockup. Sorry for the confusion. On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I've only had one 2.4 lockup and it was definitely an Ethernet issue. It would primarily happen in rain (probably a damaged cable somewhere). I tried replacing ends and that didn't change it. One night it wouldn't come back (it would usually go down and come back up within a couple minutes) so I forced the switch to 10FDX. That seemed to work for a week or so. Yesterday we got rain again and that AP went down again so I went and ran a new line and replaced the AP. Now all is good. On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 9:27 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: on three different radios on two towers? :) - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] epmp lockups Bad Ethernet port? Replace it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 16, 2015 10:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: We're running some EPMP 2.4 - recently, we've seen a higher number of lockups than normal. I would say in the 6 months or so we've been running it, i've certainly seen at least one lockup with each access point. A few questions - Is anyone else seeing this, or are we just lucky? If so, is there a firmware version you see this less? We have rebooters at most of the sites it's occurring but at least one site I know doesn't have one. (i know cause i had someone out there at 1:30 this morning and now i'm about to go out there!) Thanks! -jf
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC
Faisal, Yes, I am seeing that in almost all of the M5s. I haven't had any reports of it being service affecting. What does it mean? On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: Hi Jeremy, A bit off topic, but can you ssh into a hand full of your Rocket M's, and do a dmesg and see if you get something like this... ath_bstuck_tasklet: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 9) Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2015 10:17:26 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC I have 22 towers with over a hundred UBNT APs in a valley 11 miles wide, built over the top of a synced Canopy network. I take about 10 customers a week off of their 450 platform and we are constantly told that the difference is night and day better on our network. Careful spectrum management and proper AP loading wins over sync every time. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No, we can't always control that, but if I can at least control it sometimes, I'll take it. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: And you have the opinion you can control that, constantly, on unlicensed spectrum? *smirk* Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/15/2015 05:46 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: That's a very good point, regardless of what some customers seem to think, mbps really isn't the most important thing... On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: I've always considered mbps to be among the least important concerns on PTMP, well below packet loss, jitter, QoS features, manageability, consistency, and reliability. Which is why I'm not super keen on *any* of the wifi stuff. This seems is like an argument about whether a Pinto is better than a Fiesta. /smug One could say I can sync but I can only get 60 Mbps per sub (*) Another person could say I can't sync but I can get 200+ Mbps per sub (*) (*) under the right conditions Your market and deployment strats will dictate which is more important. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/15/2015 04:56 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: But no sync. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC AC blows doors on ePMP *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC I know this isn't an apples to apples comparison, but what are other's thoughts on these two products? I'm looking at 5GHz, and I know the AC gear doesn't have the lower 5GHz bands - hopefully they will in the near future. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
We may offer a bit of assistance at the time of the install, or once over the phone, depending on how busy we are. From then on it is not our problem, but we are willing to come out and check it out for $44.95 for the first hour and $39.95 for each additional hour. These are the lowest service rates around though, so they occasionally take us up on it. On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Nothing formal but the process we use with all devices that aren’t computers 1) Does the device see the broadcast SSID? 2) If not, then the WiFi doesn’t work on the device and you need an external WiFi adapter or get it fixed. Lots of Xboxes fall into this category. 3) If it does see it, test without encryption, see if that works. We run into a couple of options with this issue, can’t negotiate security, devices only supports WEP, WPA, or WPS which Ubiquiti doesn’t support. 4) If it still doesn’t work, check all updates and firmware 5) From there, try replacing the AP or testing with another AP 6) At the point, replace the playstation or the device *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh *Sent:* Saturday, May 16, 2015 8:28 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Customer equipment Is anyone got a sop for working on customer equipment. Such as calling to say sons PlayStation not working ?
Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
After reading this I got looking around just discovered that there is an
AirPort configuration utility for Android. That will make things easier on
our installs if it works. I usually have to use the customer's Mac to
help them get setup. The issue is that the AirPort is not user friendly,
and many of the people who use Macs do not know how to use the AirPort
utility and configure the router. Apple products are a PITA.
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
We get 80+% of our router problem calls from people with AirPorts. POS.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/16/2015 9:20 AM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
I recommend only the Apple AirPort Extreme to all of my customers. It's
the only stable router I've ever found, and I've played with a LOT of the
high end ones. I get fewer service calls from any customers using apple
routers than any other router. Asus is by far the highest service call
router out there.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On May 16, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
wrote:
Apple routers absolutely SUCK and not sure why people like buying them
personally. You need some stupid app to configure it and there's no Web
GUI. If its his router and his playstation, you as an ISP have no part in
fixing it. It's very hard sometimes to explain to the customer that you
provide internet to the home ending at the POE or modem. After that it is
their router and their end devices. We get calls sometimes where 7 devices
are working great but one device isn't working and they want it to be our
problem. We have to explain if the whole house is offline then it is our
problem.
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:08 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com
wrote:
This customer has had his PlayStation working and it stopped working
he's getting 10 meg and he wants us to fix it
Its connected to a apple router and they are within a foot of each other
BTW I hate apple routers my opinion
On May 16, 2015 10:54 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
Nothing formal but the process we use with all devices that aren’t
computers
1) Does the device see the broadcast SSID?
2) If not, then the WiFi doesn’t work on the device and you need
an external WiFi adapter or get it fixed. Lots of Xboxes fall into this
category.
3) If it does see it, test without encryption, see if that works.
We run into a couple of options with this issue, can’t negotiate security,
devices only supports WEP, WPA, or WPS which Ubiquiti doesn’t support.
4) If it still doesn’t work, check all updates and firmware
5) From there, try replacing the AP or testing with another AP
6) At the point, replace the playstation or the device
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
*Sent:* Saturday, May 16, 2015 8:28 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Customer equipment
Is anyone got a sop for working on customer equipment. Such as calling
to say sons PlayStation not working ?
--
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Re: [AFMUG] epmp lockups
I've only had one 2.4 lockup and it was definitely an Ethernet issue. It would primarily happen in rain (probably a damaged cable somewhere). I tried replacing ends and that didn't change it. One night it wouldn't come back (it would usually go down and come back up within a couple minutes) so I forced the switch to 10FDX. That seemed to work for a week or so. Yesterday we got rain again and that AP went down again so I went and ran a new line and replaced the AP. Now all is good. On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 9:27 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: on three different radios on two towers? :) - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] epmp lockups Bad Ethernet port? Replace it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 16, 2015 10:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: We're running some EPMP 2.4 - recently, we've seen a higher number of lockups than normal. I would say in the 6 months or so we've been running it, i've certainly seen at least one lockup with each access point. A few questions - Is anyone else seeing this, or are we just lucky? If so, is there a firmware version you see this less? We have rebooters at most of the sites it's occurring but at least one site I know doesn't have one. (i know cause i had someone out there at 1:30 this morning and now i'm about to go out there!) Thanks! -jf
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Powercode
LOL. Nine women cannot make a baby in one month. I love it. I wish it didn't apply here, but chances are that you hit the nail on the head for where this project is headed. On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks%27s_law *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 7:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Powercode I don't know but his email made me feel all warm and fuzzy. It is reassuring that they have a plan, and that plan involves hiring people and developing a roadmap. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Who the hell is Alexander? On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: well, while we're discussing powercode, the biggest / only issue we have right now is google calendar intregration with our installers. last i read on the forum, it was an outdated api issue. is anyone working with powercode on this currently? thanks :) - Original Message - *From:* Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net *To:* memb...@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:51 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode Uh.WTH. On May 15, 2015 11:43 AM, Adrian Folsom afol...@ptera.com wrote: So now Jacob is gone too, and personally I am now becoming worried. For those who did not receive the emails, here they are: On May 4, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: Adrian, I wanted to let you know that today is my last day at Powercode. In my absence, please use Jacob as a point of contact - you can reach him at ja...@powercode.com. I greatly appreciate the opportunity I've had to work with you in my time at Powercode, and I wish you all the best in the future. I am confident that I leave you in good hands with the team at Powercode, and that they will continue to provide you with the same exceptional service and quality product as I hope you agree you've received over the past few years. I wish you all the best and I hope our paths cross again in the future! On May 15, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Jacob Kailing ja...@powercode.com wrote: Hello, I am contacting you to inform you that today will be my last day at Powercode. It has been a pleasure getting to know you during our time working together and I wish you continued success in the future. Zach Curry will be your new point of contact in my absence. Please contact supp...@powercode.com or z...@powercode.com for support or sales inquiries. It was a pleasure getting to know you and building a great relationship. I wish you the best! Adrian Folsom, MBA Director of Sales Marketing *Ptera Inc.* d. 509.464.6941 c. 509.294.0027 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Kameron Blomquist kame...@sightlinewireless.com wrote: or here... first i am hearing about it... Interesting. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:16 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: No email here Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Casey|WISPA airl...@airlinkrb.com To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA Members] Powercode Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 9:12 AM I never saw an email. Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me either, got the news here! I think PC is lacking on PR. They should have someone dealing with this “situation” , No one is here on answering questions … From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com Reply-To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:47 AM To: mailto:memb...@wispa..org memb...@wispa..org memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode I never received an email either and assuming Daniel didn't.. I get all emails. Not in spam either. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: It was and Simon had even admitted about I but I know they were working on it. On May 14, 2015 8:20 AM, Tekwav Lists tekwavli...@gmail.com wrote: And not this Powercode customer. In my opinion, I actually think their customer service levels are starting to slip. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: Not this powercode customer. On May 14, 2015 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: He sent a message announcing it to all Powercode customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 14, 2015 3:08 AM, Daniel Moore daniel.mo...@unggoy.net wrote: Does anyone know the truth behind Simon and Powercode? I have seen emails from AF mailing lists that Simon is no longer with them. I am not a member of AF so do not get those emails, can anyone confirm
Re: [AFMUG] Odd looking tower
License plate scanners. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:03 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: There are some near a wildlife management area in Huntsville AL On May 13, 2015 2:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: It does seem entirely in the ROW. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Joe Falaschi listm...@wi.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:42:01 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Odd looking tower Is it sitting in a culvert? That doesn't seem ideal. Joe Falaschi e-vergent On May 13, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: There's a little national weather service tower near my old office that's about that sizesome of the instruments look the same too. but the weather service one doesn't have cameras. Genoa, IL. I saw this along the road about a mile from one of our towers. Anyone know what it's for? Mail Attachment.jpegMail Attachment.jpeg
Re: [AFMUG] Installer roof boots
Skate shoes work pretty well for gripping the shingles, as the gravel is a
lot like grip tape. However, they have soft soles and the ladder rungs
kill your feet after a day or so. Plus, skate shoes have no ankle
support. I always prefer boots, as you can lace them up high and you're
less likely to roll an ankle.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
I have always preferred sneakers with soft soles over any sort of boot.
except when it comes to heat. A flat black roof can burn you through
your sneakers.
I was on a 12/12 yesterday. I wear Danner boots. They have an awesome
tread, and are also stiff enough for tower work. They tear the hell out of
hot shingles though if you twist your foot at all.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote:
I totally understand. At the ripe young age of 30 I still climb some
roofs I probably shouldn't, without the help of said boots.
From time to time I will use ropes.
On May 13, 2015 11:04 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
No way would I trust something like that to get up a 12/12 roof. Maybe
to help a little, but anything over 6/12 I use ropes.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/13/2015 4:03 AM, Work wrote:
Anyone using the cougar paw boots? I'm told they let you walk up a 12/12
can anyone put any truth to that?
http://www.cougarpaws.com/en/2-shoes-boots
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Re: [AFMUG] af-5g23-s45
Thanks for the update. Perhaps I was misinformed about quantity. Apparently I was too far behind in the queue to get fulfilled on this last order. Hopefully mine will come next week. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Just a matter of ramping up...However, qty has not been in the 15 range ;) Distributors should get more mid next week. Thanks, Ben On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Why are they air shipping such a limited quantity? I got four out of the first batch and have had eight on pre-order for two weeks now. Double Radius finally got an order in and there were 15 radios. That seems like a very small amount to ship. I have pre-orders in with both DR and Streakwave and still no AF5X. Is this like the Playstation launches where they intentionally produce less than demand in order to generate hype? I'm hyped. Please send more AF5X now. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Hi Paul - Yes, they have already been shipped to distributors (they are either still in transit or close to arriving). The reason AF-5X arrived so much before the dishes is due to the fact the AF-5X are small and can be air shipped. Some of the OMT conversion kits were also air shipped (again due to size). Thanks, Ben On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: The 30 and 34dBi models are shipping ?? From what distributors? Not seeing stock at the ones I tried *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 1:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af-5g23-s45 Hi Ken - Yes, this means shipping from factory overseas by end of month, which means arriving end of June timeframe. Start shipping does mean smaller qty, but is expected to be good volume out of gate (though will not cover all orders on first shipment). I expect 2nd shipment to cover. Thanks, Ben On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Ben, does “start shipping” imply limited quantities? And is there a boat trip inbetween “end of this month” and distributors receiving their shipments? Or more like a UPS ground trip from a Ubiquiti warehouse? *From:* Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af-5g23-s45 Hi Ken - The 23dBi model has not started shipping yet. The 30 and 34dBi models are as well as OMT conversion kit. The 23dBi was completely new design and there were some late tooling changes made. They will start shipping to distributors end of this month. Regards, Ben On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Has anyone actually received and tested one of these? What's the issue with availability, how can the radios be shipping but not the antennas, doesn't seem to be rocket science. I know there has been discussion about using a 3rd party dish or panel, just wondering if there's anything official on availability of the official Ubiquiti dish which would be the most compact solution. I saw one retailer quoting January availability on their website, that has to be a mistake, right?
Re: [AFMUG] Good looking billboard!
Nice! On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com wrote: ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___
Re: [AFMUG] af-5g23-s45
Why are they air shipping such a limited quantity? I got four out of the first batch and have had eight on pre-order for two weeks now. Double Radius finally got an order in and there were 15 radios. That seems like a very small amount to ship. I have pre-orders in with both DR and Streakwave and still no AF5X. Is this like the Playstation launches where they intentionally produce less than demand in order to generate hype? I'm hyped. Please send more AF5X now. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Hi Paul - Yes, they have already been shipped to distributors (they are either still in transit or close to arriving). The reason AF-5X arrived so much before the dishes is due to the fact the AF-5X are small and can be air shipped. Some of the OMT conversion kits were also air shipped (again due to size). Thanks, Ben On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: The 30 and 34dBi models are shipping ?? From what distributors? Not seeing stock at the ones I tried *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 1:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af-5g23-s45 Hi Ken - Yes, this means shipping from factory overseas by end of month, which means arriving end of June timeframe. Start shipping does mean smaller qty, but is expected to be good volume out of gate (though will not cover all orders on first shipment). I expect 2nd shipment to cover. Thanks, Ben On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Ben, does “start shipping” imply limited quantities? And is there a boat trip inbetween “end of this month” and distributors receiving their shipments? Or more like a UPS ground trip from a Ubiquiti warehouse? *From:* Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af-5g23-s45 Hi Ken - The 23dBi model has not started shipping yet. The 30 and 34dBi models are as well as OMT conversion kit. The 23dBi was completely new design and there were some late tooling changes made. They will start shipping to distributors end of this month. Regards, Ben On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Has anyone actually received and tested one of these? What's the issue with availability, how can the radios be shipping but not the antennas, doesn't seem to be rocket science. I know there has been discussion about using a 3rd party dish or panel, just wondering if there's anything official on availability of the official Ubiquiti dish which would be the most compact solution. I saw one retailer quoting January availability on their website, that has to be a mistake, right?
Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
Wow. I can't imagine that anything good will come of this. On May 15, 2015 9:15 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yes the culling has begun... Not happy. - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:28:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Say aint so? From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto: par...@cyberbroadband.net Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto: af@afmug.com Date: Friday, May 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! hmmm, not sure i like what i am hearing - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:51 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Wow... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC
Perhaps, but at 1000x the cost. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: I'd suggest with careful spectrum management, proper loading, AND better equipment you'd still be better off. I have 22 towers with over a hundred UBNT APs in a valley 11 miles wide, built over the top of a synced Canopy network. I take about 10 customers a week off of their 450 platform and we are constantly told that the difference is night and day better on our network. Careful spectrum management and proper AP loading wins over sync every time. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No, we can't always control that, but if I can at least control it sometimes, I'll take it. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: And you have the opinion you can control that, constantly, on unlicensed spectrum? *smirk* Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/15/2015 05:46 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: That's a very good point, regardless of what some customers seem to think, mbps really isn't the most important thing... On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: I've always considered mbps to be among the least important concerns on PTMP, well below packet loss, jitter, QoS features, manageability, consistency, and reliability. Which is why I'm not super keen on *any* of the wifi stuff. This seems is like an argument about whether a Pinto is better than a Fiesta. /smug One could say I can sync but I can only get 60 Mbps per sub (*) Another person could say I can't sync but I can get 200+ Mbps per sub (*) (*) under the right conditions Your market and deployment strats will dictate which is more important. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/15/2015 04:56 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: But no sync. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC AC blows doors on ePMP *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 510-868-1614%20x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] ePMP vs Ubiquiti AC I know this isn't an apples to apples comparison, but what are other's thoughts on these two products? I'm looking at 5GHz, and I know the AC gear doesn't have the lower 5GHz bands - hopefully they will in the near future. -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Powercode
I don't know but his email made me feel all warm and fuzzy. It is reassuring that they have a plan, and that plan involves hiring people and developing a roadmap. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Who the hell is Alexander? On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: well, while we're discussing powercode, the biggest / only issue we have right now is google calendar intregration with our installers. last i read on the forum, it was an outdated api issue. is anyone working with powercode on this currently? thanks :) - Original Message - *From:* Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net *To:* memb...@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:51 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode Uh.WTH. On May 15, 2015 11:43 AM, Adrian Folsom afol...@ptera.com wrote: So now Jacob is gone too, and personally I am now becoming worried. For those who did not receive the emails, here they are: On May 4, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: Adrian, I wanted to let you know that today is my last day at Powercode. In my absence, please use Jacob as a point of contact - you can reach him at ja...@powercode.com. I greatly appreciate the opportunity I've had to work with you in my time at Powercode, and I wish you all the best in the future. I am confident that I leave you in good hands with the team at Powercode, and that they will continue to provide you with the same exceptional service and quality product as I hope you agree you've received over the past few years. I wish you all the best and I hope our paths cross again in the future! On May 15, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Jacob Kailing ja...@powercode.com wrote: Hello, I am contacting you to inform you that today will be my last day at Powercode. It has been a pleasure getting to know you during our time working together and I wish you continued success in the future. Zach Curry will be your new point of contact in my absence. Please contact supp...@powercode.com or z...@powercode.com for support or sales inquiries. It was a pleasure getting to know you and building a great relationship. I wish you the best! Adrian Folsom, MBA Director of Sales Marketing *Ptera Inc.* d. 509.464.6941 c. 509.294.0027 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Kameron Blomquist kame...@sightlinewireless.com wrote: or here... first i am hearing about it... Interesting. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:16 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: No email here Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Casey|WISPA airl...@airlinkrb.com To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA Members] Powercode Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 9:12 AM I never saw an email. Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me either, got the news here! I think PC is lacking on PR. They should have someone dealing with this “situation” , No one is here on answering questions … From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com Reply-To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:47 AM To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa..org memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode I never received an email either and assuming Daniel didn't.. I get all emails. Not in spam either. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: It was and Simon had even admitted about I but I know they were working on it. On May 14, 2015 8:20 AM, Tekwav Lists tekwavli...@gmail.com wrote: And not this Powercode customer. In my opinion, I actually think their customer service levels are starting to slip. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: Not this powercode customer. On May 14, 2015 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: He sent a message announcing it to all Powercode customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 14, 2015 3:08 AM, Daniel Moore daniel.mo...@unggoy.net wrote: Does anyone know the truth behind Simon and Powercode? I have seen emails from AF mailing lists that Simon is no longer with them. I am not a member of AF so do not get those emails, can anyone confirm/deny? If this is true, I wonder how this might affect them… as I understand he is (or was) the driving force behind it. -Daniel ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
Re: [AFMUG] Installer roof boots
I was on a 12/12 yesterday. I wear Danner boots. They have an awesome
tread, and are also stiff enough for tower work. They tear the hell out of
hot shingles though if you twist your foot at all.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote:
I totally understand. At the ripe young age of 30 I still climb some roofs
I probably shouldn't, without the help of said boots.
From time to time I will use ropes.
On May 13, 2015 11:04 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
No way would I trust something like that to get up a 12/12 roof. Maybe
to help a little, but anything over 6/12 I use ropes.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/13/2015 4:03 AM, Work wrote:
Anyone using the cougar paw boots? I'm told they let you walk up a 12/12
can anyone put any truth to that?
http://www.cougarpaws.com/en/2-shoes-boots
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Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 weird issue
There are users on this list running them 8 degrees apart without any issues. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:18 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I believe Chuck said GPS does nothing in FDD mode. It's really only for TDD synchronization. Obviously with FDD you're always transmitting and receiving simultaneously. I would run the co-located radios as masters on the same Tx freq. That's really the only way it's going to work anyway. 15 degrees may not be enough separation in azimuth. Maybe turning the power down on the shorter link would do it. On 5/13/2015 8:09 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: Full duplex… -- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Reply-To: af@afmug.com Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 9:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 weird issue Are you doing half or full duplex? On 5/13/2015 8:02 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: Thanks! -- From: Jeremy Reply-To: af@afmug.com Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 8:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 weird issue Absolutely. It will not work without it. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.com wrote: Out of curiosity…should I be turning on GPS timing? Does it even work? -- From: Josh Reynolds Reply-To: af@afmug.com Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 8:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 weird issue Make both airfibers on the shared rooftop masters, with reversed tx/rx. I think the most we have at one location is 4, and there is no more than 10 feet from end to end of the structure. They are on slightly different azimuths. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/13/2015 04:46 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: We have 2 Airfiber 24’s co-located on a building rooftop… they have about 15ft horizontal separation. The one air fibre pair is aimed at a tower about 1KM away and not the tower side we are about 75ft in the air. The other Airfiber is located on a building across the road at the same height. The azimuth is about 15 degrees off of each other. The link from roof to tower, works 100%. The link from building to building is about 400ft away and we are having weird issues getting it to link. Is there some sort of co-location magic to make this work? I read somewhere that we should have master or slave mode matching at the co-located sites. Any words of wisdom are appreciated. -Andreas --
Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure low temperature
The coldest that I saw INSIDE our enclosures this year (accordint to SiteMonitor internal temperature) was 0-C (32-F). Last year was much colder but back then I was using the APC for temperature and backup, and that graph data has all been deleted. I can't say for sure if the temperature in the box was lower, but I doubt it would go too far below 32 with all the equipment and batteries in the boxes. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't the simple answer be to offer the device and SD card as separate items? Then on your site you say, If you want to have storage with the same industrial temperature range as the rest of my product line then buy this card, or supply your own at your own risk. Everybody selling fiber to the radio with an SFP slot does it that way. I always buy their SFP module. On 5/18/2015 10:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: What is the lowest temperature that each of you would normally expect to see in your enclosures? The reason I'm asking is that I'm in the process of developing up a few new products. To date, all of the packetflux products are designed with components rated -40 to +85C (I.E way cold to way hot).I'd like to retain this rating, but I'm running into a minor snag: For storage, I'm planning on integrating a SD card (probably microSD) in a socket. I only need a GB or so, and SD card memory is inexpensive at that range. Unfortunately, all the reasonably priced SD cards are only rated down to about -25C or -13F. which are about ~$3 in qty. Industrial temperature range ones which are good down to -40C/F are available but they add at least $30 to the cost for non-name brand, and even more for known brands. When you're talking about a $100 end-user price, a $30 1GB SD card seems excessive - and probably isn't even possible if I want to meet the $100 price with some margin. So, I'm currently playing the 'what options do I have' game. I hate to ship a product only rated down to -25C/-13F, but I know for at least a large chunk of my customer base they never see below this temperature, especially when you add a watt of power dissipation in the case with the device. Which leads me back to my original question: What's the lowest temperature most people would expect to see inside their enclosures. -- *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian http://facebook.com/packetflux http://twitter.com/@packetflux
Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure low temperature
Yeah, that is why I mentioned that it was the internal site monitor temperature. Forrest knows almost exactly how far off it is from the ambient temperature. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: That probe is a lot warmer than the enclosure. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 18, 2015 10:23 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: The coldest that I saw INSIDE our enclosures this year (accordint to SiteMonitor internal temperature) was 0-C (32-F). Last year was much colder but back then I was using the APC for temperature and backup, and that graph data has all been deleted. I can't say for sure if the temperature in the box was lower, but I doubt it would go too far below 32 with all the equipment and batteries in the boxes. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't the simple answer be to offer the device and SD card as separate items? Then on your site you say, If you want to have storage with the same industrial temperature range as the rest of my product line then buy this card, or supply your own at your own risk. Everybody selling fiber to the radio with an SFP slot does it that way. I always buy their SFP module. On 5/18/2015 10:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: What is the lowest temperature that each of you would normally expect to see in your enclosures? The reason I'm asking is that I'm in the process of developing up a few new products. To date, all of the packetflux products are designed with components rated -40 to +85C (I.E way cold to way hot).I'd like to retain this rating, but I'm running into a minor snag: For storage, I'm planning on integrating a SD card (probably microSD) in a socket. I only need a GB or so, and SD card memory is inexpensive at that range. Unfortunately, all the reasonably priced SD cards are only rated down to about -25C or -13F. which are about ~$3 in qty. Industrial temperature range ones which are good down to -40C/F are available but they add at least $30 to the cost for non-name brand, and even more for known brands. When you're talking about a $100 end-user price, a $30 1GB SD card seems excessive - and probably isn't even possible if I want to meet the $100 price with some margin. So, I'm currently playing the 'what options do I have' game. I hate to ship a product only rated down to -25C/-13F, but I know for at least a large chunk of my customer base they never see below this temperature, especially when you add a watt of power dissipation in the case with the device. Which leads me back to my original question: What's the lowest temperature most people would expect to see inside their enclosures. -- *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian http://facebook.com/packetflux http://twitter.com/@packetflux
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Back from the dead! If anyone was still looking for a source for these I have found them sold at discountlowvoltage.com in packs of 200. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: There are 110 patch cables. If you need to field terminate your own, use something like this: http://www.showmecables.com/product/ICC-4-Pair-110-Style-Field-Temination-Plugs.aspx *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Friday, February 20, 2015 5:06 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing If you have to, you can strip it and kinda wire wrap around the 110 slot and then attempt to kinda punch it down. *From:* Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:38 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Stranded cable just doesn't punch down on standard 110-type teeth at all, it'll always be bad results. Eric kuhnkee...@kuhnke-international.com Sierra Leone (Africell): +232-88-284222 Sierra Leone (Airtel) +232-79-107461 Ghana (MTN): +233-5478-81863 Iridium: +1-480-768-2500 followed by 8816-234-59301 Vancouver: +1-604-783-3317 Skype: erickuhnke On 2/19/15 8:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right. There are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are stranded. The dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above them though are all stranded. I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t think that’s right. Stranded should only be used for patch cords which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and out should be solid. Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring. *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid. (side note: f@#k stranded CatX) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are usually solid core. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair and splice to another pair. You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the connector On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] 5ghz PMP450 canopy 30* antenna suggestion
Come to think of it, I believe the Mars 30 degree is V-pol only
http://www.winncom.com/pdf/MARS_MA_WB55_20/MARS_MA-WB55-20.pdf
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:
Yeah I can't find one from Mars either.
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
Got a model number? I'm either being too restrictive, or not restrictive
enough to find anything in 30°.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/14/2015 8:44 AM, Jeremy wrote:
Yes, Mars makes one.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
wrote:
Mars?
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Apr 14, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
So far the only production 30° antenna (3db roll off) in production is
from UBNT. The AM-5AC22-45, which is called a 45° antenna with a 6 db
roll-off. But the 3db roll-off is 30°.
I have talked to a guy at MTI that claims they are willing to make a
30° 3db roll-off sector, but is looking for interested parties. Contact him
to find out availability: Ofer Bismuth ofer.bism...@mtiwe.com.
bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/13/2015 10:45 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
does anyone have a good recommendation for a 30* (at the 3db roll
off point) antenna for the canopy 5ghz PMP450 AP?
Thanks!
-Sean
Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries
Actually, it was Energizer batteries at Sam's club (they are actually
Johnson Controls batteries). The exact same AGM battery is also now sold
at AutoZone (branded Autozone). It is about $20-30 more per battery though.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
I think we're spoiled with how responsible ComEd generally is. I can only
imagine what it's like in some of these really remote areas. Weeks to a
restore?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
https://twitter.com/ICSIL
--
*From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:10:57 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries
I think an 8D is something like 275 Ah. I have some sites with 2 of
those in series. And some with 8 x 100 Ah.
I have a fair number of NEMA boxes with strings of 26 or 33 Ah batteries
in the bottom, one 48 VDC site has four 33 Ah in series for about 1600 watt
hours. That can be over a day of runtime depending on what you’re powering.
*From:* Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:57 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries
+1. I think the smallest we have anywhere is 100ah. Most are in the
200-300 ah range.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/14/2015 7:39 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
100aH is small for us :P
On April 14, 2015 6:24:33 PM AKDT, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com
af...@kwisp.com wrote:
What size are you looking for? Big honkers like 100 Ah and up, or
little ones like 7-33 Ah?
*From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries
They will last forever if in an temperature controlled environment and
not deep cycled.
*From:* Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:16 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries
The only benefit I know of for flooded cells is initial price.
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:
Do you really need AGM batteries? Have you considered the benefits of
flooded cells?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Adam Moffett
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmmoff...@gmail.com'); wrote:
Somebody here recently suggested the Duracell AGM batteries at Sam's
clubthey are a good deal, but they aren't always in stock when I need
them.
Who's your favorite battery vendor?
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Fall protection for rooftop
What would it cost to have a steel cable type rail installed? I think that
a rail is required if you will be within a certain distance from the edge.
Where are my OSHA guys? Somebody has to know this rule. That being said,
We've never had rails on the rooftop sites for any company that I have ever
worked for.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
One of our sites is like that. We just wear a climbing harness with a
tether tied to an anchor.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/14/2015 2:57 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
We are working on setting up a new rooftop site and the building owner is
hesitant to allow us on the roof because there is no barriers or handrails,
you can literally just roll a coin off of the roof. Having handrails
installed looks to be too expensive, any other ideas ? Personally I think
it's way safer than climbing a tower but they don't see it that way.
I was thinking maybe some of those interlinking steel crowd barriers?
Can't really find a source for those either and they look to be like $25
per foot which will also cost a fortune...
Maybe one of those retractable fall protection things anchored to the
middle of the roof ?
Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming
http://www.risebroadband.net/ T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if they have decided to keep some of the brands. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of their companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they don't need no stinkin' coverage maps! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you can't even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of those either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do this? Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web and people outside of your community may come across it. I highly encourage all of you to describe where you provide service, and not just a county name, because I'm sure every county is unique, right? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: http://www.riseiscoming.com/ Hide your heart, girl.
Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming
This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of their companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they don't need no stinkin' coverage maps! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you can't even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of those either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do this? Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web and people outside of your community may come across it. I highly encourage all of you to describe where you provide service, and not just a county name, because I'm sure every county is unique, right? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: http://www.riseiscoming.com/ Hide your heart, girl.
Re: [AFMUG] 5ghz PMP450 canopy 30* antenna suggestion
Yes, Mars makes one.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Mars?
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Apr 14, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
So far the only production 30° antenna (3db roll off) in production is
from UBNT. The AM-5AC22-45, which is called a 45° antenna with a 6 db
roll-off. But the 3db roll-off is 30°.
I have talked to a guy at MTI that claims they are willing to make a 30°
3db roll-off sector, but is looking for interested parties. Contact him to
find out availability: Ofer Bismuth ofer.bism...@mtiwe.com.
bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/13/2015 10:45 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
does anyone have a good recommendation for a 30* (at the 3db roll off
point) antenna for the canopy 5ghz PMP450 AP?
Thanks!
-Sean
[AFMUG] phpVirtualBox question
Anyone using this? I have forgotten my password and accidentally deleted recovery.php-disabled instead of renaming it (linux amateur). I cannot find a replacement file anywhere. Can someone post the file or the contents of the file so that I can fix it?
Re: [AFMUG] phpVirtualBox question
Got it. Thanks. Not sure why I missed that obvious solution. I must need more caffeine On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Download the package, copy it over On April 15, 2015 9:35:29 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using this? I have forgotten my password and accidentally deleted recovery.php-disabled instead of renaming it (linux amateur). I cannot find a replacement file anywhere. Can someone post the file or the contents of the file so that I can fix it? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
We usually put a breaker at the tower and then put in our own ground at the tower and bond it to electrical ground. No idea if this is the right way to do it but you definitely don't want your only ground to be 200' away, right? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Amperage is irrelevant, well, unless it's larger than the gauge I recommended. It's not an inside-home outlet, but bonding the ground between the electrical service and the equipment\tower. You don't want your tower ground to be better than your electrical service ground and have a surge decide the best path is through the electric (+ or neutral) and thus your equipment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:01:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run For a 30 amp circuit? *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:58 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run Your ground should be at least 4 gauge, maybe even larger than that. One of the 0/x gauges is in my mind for some reason. That should bond the electrical ground with all tower and equipment grounds. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:41:15 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run In my continued disposition of acknowledging that I am not a electrical grounding expert, I lay out this scenario for review, a new tower we just built. We installed a new tower, approximately 200ft. from the service panel that feeds it. We will be on our own breaker (kinda irrelevant here). In the past, we had run 10 gauge wire (x3) out to the tower with 110vac. Voltage drop is relatively negligible, certainly within the bounds of working properly to drive our 24v charger for the battery array. I was told, by a grounding “expert” that all my equipment electrical grounds need to homerun to a bus bar that ride the ground back to the service panel directly, that nothing else is acceptable. AND, and this is the big part… that I needed to seriously upgrade the 200ft. ground wire only that rides back to the panel to something significantly bigger. How much bigger I am not sure. So, I figured I would ask the crowd for an answer J Thanks! Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
[AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution?
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
by no port I mean default...443 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I've spoken with GoDaddy support (zero help) and have changed everything that I can think of. Still tinkering...I am at a loss as to why this isn't working. Is it safe to assume that yours works fine on Android Josh? Did you use the recommended gd_bundle-g2-g1.crt for your intermediate? Edited in the ssl.conf under SSLCertificateChainFile ? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Josh knows my issue. I am using Powercode. It fails on 444 and 447 and on the customer portal (no port) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've never heard of anything using 447, but I'm not a PowerCode user. When did we start assuming Jeremy's putting the cert into PowerCode? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:42:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution?
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
I've spoken with GoDaddy support (zero help) and have changed everything that I can think of. Still tinkering...I am at a loss as to why this isn't working. Is it safe to assume that yours works fine on Android Josh? Did you use the recommended gd_bundle-g2-g1.crt for your intermediate? Edited in the ssl.conf under SSLCertificateChainFile ? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Josh knows my issue. I am using Powercode. It fails on 444 and 447 and on the customer portal (no port) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've never heard of anything using 447, but I'm not a PowerCode user. When did we start assuming Jeremy's putting the cert into PowerCode? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:42:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution?
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
Josh knows my issue. I am using Powercode. It fails on 444 and 447 and on the customer portal (no port) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've never heard of anything using 447, but I'm not a PowerCode user. When did we start assuming Jeremy's putting the cert into PowerCode? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:42:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution?
Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming
I just had a customer who just switched from Digis but hadn't cancelled yet tell me that he just got notification that they are indeed changing their name as well. It looks like the whole gang will be rising! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: It's Krispy Kreme! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 15, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Just want to point something out real quick... A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some kind of massive, rolling behemoth with a gazillion subscribers and trillions in the bank. The kind of place that has it's own militarized security forces, Ferrari's for interns, crispy creme every morning, and hands out Sam Adams during lunch. Okay, maybe not that extreme, but anyway... To put things in perspective, if you were to talk to anybody who works at an actually large ISP or Carrier for that matter, JAB is tiny. JAB is literally the size, speaking purely by number of customers, that many ISPs have in a few mile radius. I understand that they cover a fairly large area, and that some manufacturers in our industry will even bend the knee to get their business... And maybe rightfully so... But yeah, 250,000-350,000 sub's to many ISPs is a tiny drop in the bucket. On April 15, 2015 7:06:15 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.risebroadband.net/ T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if they have decided to keep some of the brands. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of their companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they don't need no stinkin' coverage maps! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you can't even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of those either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do this? Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web and people outside of your community may come across it. I highly encourage all of you to describe where you provide service, and not just a county name, because I'm sure every county is unique, right? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: http://www.riseiscoming.com/ Hide your heart, girl. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
All of the ports work fine on a pc. On mobile none of the ports work. We bought the correct wildcard cert. I'll double check our config with Josh tomorrow. I'm over it for tonight. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:32 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: same deal here, it was explained to me the cheap cert we have and you probably do to is only for 443, would need a different type of cert, since those two components are only for staff use, its not relevant to us, On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: OK, will do On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No problems at all. Give me a ring in the am if you need help. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 9:10 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I've spoken with GoDaddy support (zero help) and have changed everything that I can think of. Still tinkering...I am at a loss as to why this isn't working. Is it safe to assume that yours works fine on Android Josh? Did you use the recommended gd_bundle-g2-g1.crt for your intermediate? Edited in the ssl.conf under SSLCertificateChainFile ? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Josh knows my issue. I am using Powercode. It fails on 444 and 447 and on the customer portal (no port) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've never heard of anything using 447, but I'm not a PowerCode user. When did we start assuming Jeremy's putting the cert into PowerCode? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:42:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
OK, will do On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No problems at all. Give me a ring in the am if you need help. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 9:10 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I've spoken with GoDaddy support (zero help) and have changed everything that I can think of. Still tinkering...I am at a loss as to why this isn't working. Is it safe to assume that yours works fine on Android Josh? Did you use the recommended gd_bundle-g2-g1.crt for your intermediate? Edited in the ssl.conf under SSLCertificateChainFile ? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Josh knows my issue. I am using Powercode. It fails on 444 and 447 and on the customer portal (no port) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've never heard of anything using 447, but I'm not a PowerCode user. When did we start assuming Jeremy's putting the cert into PowerCode? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:42:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution?
Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming
They are definitely small timejust look at that logo and wood background. They are working hard to appear like they are the small local provider. Just the same folks in our community Rise Broadband shares the same values as you. We’re right around the corner, up the street and down the road a ways. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Just want to point something out real quick... A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some kind of massive, rolling behemoth with a gazillion subscribers and trillions in the bank. The kind of place that has it's own militarized security forces, Ferrari's for interns, crispy creme every morning, and hands out Sam Adams during lunch. Okay, maybe not that extreme, but anyway... To put things in perspective, if you were to talk to anybody who works at an actually large ISP or Carrier for that matter, JAB is tiny. JAB is literally the size, speaking purely by number of customers, that many ISPs have in a few mile radius. I understand that they cover a fairly large area, and that some manufacturers in our industry will even bend the knee to get their business... And maybe rightfully so... But yeah, 250,000-350,000 sub's to many ISPs is a tiny drop in the bucket. On April 15, 2015 7:06:15 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.risebroadband.net/ T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if they have decided to keep some of the brands. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of their companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they don't need no stinkin' coverage maps! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you can't even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of those either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do this? Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web and people outside of your community may come across it. I highly encourage all of you to describe where you provide service, and not just a county name, because I'm sure every county is unique, right? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: http://www.riseiscoming.com/ Hide your heart, girl. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT UVC 802.11xx?
Right, I should have said 'most' UBNT gear. Pin 4 5 + / pin 7 8 - On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: ...Except the Ti radios. And AF24. However AF5x is 24v. It has a different POE, though - they aren't interchangeable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: They are 24v POE, the same pinout as all UBNT gear. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find the POE specs anywhere for the UVC Cameras. Are they 802.11af compliant? Or 802.11at? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT UVC 802.11xx?
They are 24v POE, the same pinout as all UBNT gear. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find the POE specs anywhere for the UVC Cameras. Are they 802.11af compliant? Or 802.11at? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
Resolved. Thanks for the help Josh! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Correct… I have mobile versions of some of my sites and only 443 is open…. Don’t have an android device handy to try it but I’m sure it works.. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution?
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
So the common documentation on installing certs in Apache mentions the three places in the .conf file where you need to call out the certs. However, in Powercode there are three more places where the key and all three certs need called out down lower in the ssl.conf file for each of the ports (444,446,447). This resolved the issue. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:09:49 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Resolved. Thanks for the help Josh! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Correct… I have mobile versions of some of my sites and only 443 is open…. Don’t have an android device handy to try it but I’m sure it works.. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution?
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
I have recommended that Powercode update their knowledge base to include this information. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: So the common documentation on installing certs in Apache mentions the three places in the .conf file where you need to call out the certs. However, in Powercode there are three more places where the key and all three certs need called out down lower in the ssl.conf file for each of the ports (444,446,447). This resolved the issue. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:09:49 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Resolved. Thanks for the help Josh! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Correct… I have mobile versions of some of my sites and only 443 is open…. Don’t have an android device handy to try it but I’m sure it works.. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution?
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
The gigabit UBNT stuff (excluding AF5x and AF) has to have ground on pins 3 6 to connect at a gig. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT UVC 802.11xx?
I don't have any Pro cams installed but the rest of the new Unifi line is definitely 24v, same pinout as mentioned before. I have like six of the 'bullet' style, and two of the drop-tile ceiling style. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: On April 16, 2015 8:53:12 AM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Working for me *shrug* http://inxwireless.com/inx-live-cams-gf36.php Pretty sure it is even inked 24v inside it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Power Method Passive Power over Ethernet (48V, 0.5A), 802.3af Power Supply 48V, 0.5A PoE Adapter Included Maximum Power Consumption 12.5 W - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:43:23 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] UBNT UVC 802.11xx? This? https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-video/unifi-video-camera-pro/ No it isn't, I just put one on the tower yesterday - it's 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: The pro cam is 48v On April 16, 2015 7:57:32 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Right, I should have said 'most' UBNT gear. Pin 4 5 + / pin 7 8 - On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: ...Except the Ti radios. And AF24. However AF5x is 24v. It has a different POE, though - they aren't interchangeable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: a href=tel:937-552-23%2043 target=_blank937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: They are 24v POE, the same pinout as all UBNT gear. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find the POE specs anywhere for the UVC Cameras. Are they 802.11af compliant? Or 802.11at? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] External POE.
+1! I use them on every site that we have. I have powered AF, AF5X, Trango licensed BHs, Gigabit Nanobeams, non-GB UBNT radios, cameras, you name it! My favorite part about these is when I upgrade a radio from 10/100 to Gb all I have to do is add a jumper. The boxes we build are modular, and can be changed, upgraded, and expanded with very little work. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yes. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] External POE. Tested with SAF? On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So far, these have powered every device they have been called upon to do if it is GigE circuit. Or a circuit with 802.1af type of wiring. http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77Cat= http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=68Cat= From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too? If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Mtow pics on telephone pole
Your local electrical wholesaler will have unistrut Ts with slightly rounded metal plates that you can lag in and mount a pipe to. That's what they use to run their 3 conduit up the pole. I've used them before and they worked amazing. On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Simple enough for me to duplicate concept http://www.hubbellpowersystems.com/pole-line/brackets/transformer-triple/bolted-steel.asp Jaime Solorza On Apr 11, 2015 2:25 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Folks have chained them to poles before. Chain, eyebolts etc. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mtow pics on telephone pole Pole would be way too big? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 11, 2015 2:49 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Any one have pics of Mtows in action on telephone poles. Thx Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Mtow pics on telephone pole
I drill all the way through the pole and use large allthread with bolts and washers and then lag the other holes On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Your local electrical wholesaler will have unistrut Ts with slightly rounded metal plates that you can lag in and mount a pipe to. That's what they use to run their 3 conduit up the pole. I've used them before and they worked amazing. On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Simple enough for me to duplicate concept http://www.hubbellpowersystems.com/pole-line/brackets/transformer-triple/bolted-steel.asp Jaime Solorza On Apr 11, 2015 2:25 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Folks have chained them to poles before. Chain, eyebolts etc. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mtow pics on telephone pole Pole would be way too big? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 11, 2015 2:49 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Any one have pics of Mtows in action on telephone poles. Thx Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Mtow pics on telephone pole
Like this (but I paid around $20 each it seems...definitely wasn't $100). http://www.westwayelectricsupply.com/b812-8-hdg-utility-pole-bracket-8-depth-hot-dip-galvanized.html?gclid=COaygbqC8cQCFYQAaQod8ZgAqQ
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT UVC 802.11xx?
I am not sure that everyone in the industry shares that sentiment. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: There is no protocol for 24v, AFAIK. It's all 48v which is what all of our gear should be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, April 17, 2015 10:35:35 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] UBNT UVC 802.11xx? What is the 802.3 protocol for 24 vdc? Same as 48vdc (802.3af)? On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Looking at their site there's a UVC and UVC pro. They look the same but they have different qualities and based on this thread, voltages. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 10:51 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any Pro cams installed but the rest of the new Unifi line is definitely 24v, same pinout as mentioned before. I have like six of the 'bullet' style, and two of the drop-tile ceiling style. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: On April 16, 2015 8:53:12 AM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Working for me *shrug* http://inxwireless.com/inx-live-cams-gf36.php Pretty sure it is even inked 24v inside it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Power Method Passive Power over Ethernet (48V, 0.5A), 802.3af Power Supply 48V, 0.5A PoE Adapter Included Maximum Power Consumption 12.5 W - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:43:23 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] UBNT UVC 802.11xx? This? https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-video/unifi-video-camera-pro/ No it isn't, I just put one on the tower yesterday - it's 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: The pro cam is 48v On April 16, 2015 7:57:32 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Right, I should have said 'most' UBNT gear. Pin 4 5 + / pin 7 8 - On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: ...Except the Ti radios. And AF24. However AF5x is 24v. It has a different POE, though - they aren't interchangeable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: a href=tel:937-552-23%2043 target=_blank 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: They are 24v POE, the same pinout as all UBNT gear. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find the POE specs anywhere for the UVC Cameras. Are they 802.11af compliant? Or 802.11at? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use DFS freqs for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one freq would have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly? Anyone? Or was it just that both polarities couldn't be the same DFS freq? On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I thought I recalled Chuck mentioning something like that at AF. I guess I should have taken notes. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I've got 3 DFS set... No problems. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 11:30 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use DFS freqs for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one freq would have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly? Anyone? Or was it just that both polarities couldn't be the same DFS freq? On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] External POE.
Actually, I take that back about the Trango BHs. I forgot I ended up running fiber and direct DC to the Trangos. I have their rackmount -48v power supply (Duracomm rebranded I think). I was going to put positive on every pin but there was no way for negative to be isolated in my PRM24 rackmount APC surge deal. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Details on trango.. Cause its –48 with pos on shield Gino A. Villarini President From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Friday, April 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] External POE. +1! I use them on every site that we have. I have powered AF, AF5X, Trango licensed BHs, Gigabit Nanobeams, non-GB UBNT radios, cameras, you name it! My favorite part about these is when I upgrade a radio from 10/100 to Gb all I have to do is add a jumper. The boxes we build are modular, and can be changed, upgraded, and expanded with very little work. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yes. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] External POE. Tested with SAF? On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So far, these have powered every device they have been called upon to do if it is GigE circuit. Or a circuit with 802.1af type of wiring. http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77Cat= http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=68Cat= From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too? If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] SCADA tower
For the cost I prefer using midsections as well. So long as you have them
in gravel and not in concrete at the base they work fine. That din rail
cutter looks sweet. Probably cuts much nicer than my tin snips and channel
lock straightening method. I use a chop saw for Din rail when I'm building
boxes at the shop.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
Yes, that's how Rohn says to do it. And no, you do not have to use a
concrete base section, a standard mid section is perfectly acceptable to
place in the concrete.
On 4/17/2015 6:56 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
So the base sticks down below the concrete at the bottom and sits in the
gravel so it can drain out?
On Thursday, April 16, 2015, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
Plenty of gravel at base of pit. 4000 psi concrete mix for this area.
Lots of caliche in area. Rebar cage. Not touching tower ...Dottie taped
tower bottom section in concrete. ..did I miss anything?
Jaime Solorza
On Apr 16, 2015 2:17 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
Probably works just fine as long as the bottom drain is set up
properly. However, you're kinda screwed if something damages that base
section.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/16/2015 12:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
That’s what it looks like to me too.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SCADA tower
That looks like a regular 10' section with the bottom half in the
concrete (JMO)...
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/16/2015 11:43 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Is that an official base section or just a regular section?
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:23 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] SCADA tower
Two bases done. 6 mast supports done.Weather might slow us down.
Oh well
Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] External POE.
Seems to me like that should work. I don't know if it would afford you any protection (Chuck?), but it should power them up. For what I spent on our link I decided to just run fiber instead. The buildout cost was minor compared to the link, and we ran MTP so we can now do up to 6 links with very little work. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:18 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I haven't tried it on any Trango ODUs yet. But I did ask Chuck about it. The jack shields and the grounding strip is not tied to the negative input. So in theory, you should be able to put the +48/0V to the + input and -48 to the - input, then set all of the jumpers to -. Take your drain wire coming from the ODU/OMU and stick it in the + input terminal. Unless I'm missing something, which is entire possible. On 4/17/2015 8:06 PM, Jeremy wrote: Actually, I take that back about the Trango BHs. I forgot I ended up running fiber and direct DC to the Trangos. I have their rackmount -48v power supply (Duracomm rebranded I think). I was going to put positive on every pin but there was no way for negative to be isolated in my PRM24 rackmount APC surge deal. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Details on trango.. Cause its –48 with pos on shield Gino A. Villarini President From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Friday, April 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] External POE. +1! I use them on every site that we have. I have powered AF, AF5X, Trango licensed BHs, Gigabit Nanobeams, non-GB UBNT radios, cameras, you name it! My favorite part about these is when I upgrade a radio from 10/100 to Gb all I have to do is add a jumper. The boxes we build are modular, and can be changed, upgraded, and expanded with very little work. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yes. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] External POE. Tested with SAF? On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So far, these have powered every device they have been called upon to do if it is GigE circuit. Or a circuit with 802.1af type of wiring. http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77Cat= http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=68Cat= From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too? If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now
Re: [AFMUG] Collocation
Holy crap! Where is that? On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: I'm not sure I'd like to collocate on this noisy hill. I don't the think the signal would go very far or have much throughput. Haha. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield Silver Lake Internet, LLC
Re: [AFMUG] A5x shipping first? Same for Mimosa version?
I received four AF5X radios from Streakwave yesterday. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I think all the regulars had stock last week. If you didn't preorder you'll want to call early in the morning and hope there's stock. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 7, 2015 9:27 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Who has stock or will likely be shipping first? Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie
I also mastic then tape the SMA connectors. I bought a network that had been running for 8 years though with none of them sealed and they all worked fine. I still sealed them. I like that the rubber boot keeps the mastic off of the threads and nut. It makes for a cleaner removal when you cut it off. I still don't trust it enough to not seal it. The only connectors I trust unsealed are the ones inside of those KP performance boxes on the back of the sector antennas. Those boxes are watertight. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I think most people do tape the SMA connectors. however, there have been more than a few that I haven't bothered to tape and I've never once seen a problem with any of them. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: *shrug* I also tape up those IP67 SMA connectors that people say don't need it. Why take chances? On 4/2/2015 9:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: N connectors, properly applied, do not even need sealing. The gasket in the male end (the one with the internal threads) mates with the end of the female end (the one with the exterior threads) and “in theory” prevent moisture from getting in via the threads. The back end is a whole different story. If the cable to terminal body is sealed then you are good. That said, I always did vinyl over rubber too... *From:* Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie Hey now, I have those N-connectors sealed up good. Wrapped them with Super 33+, then I wrapped them with rubber tape, then I put another layer of Super 33+ on them, have been doing it this way for 8+ years and havn't had water get in an N-connector yet. Some thunderstorms supposed to be rolling in tonight and I can tell you that last thing I worry about in my network is water getting into N-connectors Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:45 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: N connectors are fine with me, but putting them close together like the PMP450 APs used to be (and the 3GHz sectors still are) is a PITA which is why I went down the heat-shrink road. On 4/1/2015 9:34 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Josh can only apparently read one sentence. The second sentence of that e-mail explains why. Screw the connector on and call it a day. Ain't nobody got time for weatherproofing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com geo...@cbcast.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:30:05 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie Because he can't stick an SFP in it? ;) On 4/1/2015 9:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You said down with them, I don't see why. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 9:49 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You mean other than what I already said? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:47:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie What's wrong with N? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 9:38 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Down with N connectors! Since UBNT started with the IP67 rated RPSMA, that's all I've wanted to deal with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:21:41 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie Kurt, you can't take a selflie which shows insufficient waterproofing on the N-connectors and expect us not to say something.. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cambium selfie New link
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason not to. I know I have never said I wish I hadn't sealed these connectors that have been here for five years without getting water in them. I still love that the boot makes it easier to remove the cables once it has been sealed. Anyone who has ever sealed SMA connectors that don't have a boot and then down the road tried to remove them know that the mastic gets into every crack and thread and makes unscrewing it a total pain. On another note, Chuck's post makes me glad that all of my AF5Xs are going up on 30db 34db dishes. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: While it the connector itself may be IP67 complaint, I have seen several crimp jobs of the cable onto the connector where there were gaps that would allow water to penetrate down into the connector. If this particular GPS cable suffers from a poor crimp, the cup formed by the boot will cause premature failure. -PK
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I am replacing Rockets, and I will be changing the orientation for dual slant. We're in the process of getting backup links in place and cutting over to them so that we can modify the dishes without significant downtime. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Are you replacing Rockets? If yes, are you rotating the feed to get dual slant? *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:30 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason not to. I know I have never said I wish I hadn't sealed these connectors that have been here for five years without getting water in them. I still love that the boot makes it easier to remove the cables once it has been sealed. Anyone who has ever sealed SMA connectors that don't have a boot and then down the road tried to remove them know that the mastic gets into every crack and thread and makes unscrewing it a total pain. On another note, Chuck's post makes me glad that all of my AF5Xs are going up on 30db 34db dishes. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: While it the connector itself may be IP67 complaint, I have seen several crimp jobs of the cable onto the connector where there were gaps that would allow water to penetrate down into the connector. If this particular GPS cable suffers from a poor crimp, the cup formed by the boot will cause premature failure. -PK
Re: [AFMUG] Tower light monitoring
Yeah, if you just need something to monitor a simple open/close circuit it should work fine. If you need to monitor current I believe you could add a shunt, couldn't you? On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:57 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Packet flux site monitor? On May 20, 2015 9:52 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Site Monitor? On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:57 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: What's the best tool to use? On May 20, 2015 6:08 AM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: Most controllers made in the last decade have a discrete output giving you an open close you can monitor with a bunch of stuff. If not that you'll have to monitor current. On May 20, 2015 5:48 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: What does everyone use for monitoring tower strobe. Just took over this site and need to monitor the lights
Re: [AFMUG] ER-X-SFP Switch/Router - 5 Port switch/router with SFP and POE
DC or AC? On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I’ve been putting these new ER-X-SFP https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x-sfp/ devices through their paces the last couple of days and am really impressed with them. They are a 6 port gig-e switch/router that provides 24V passive POE power on all ports and includes an SFP port. The box runs debian so you can install your own utilities and scripts. The routing is based on a forked version of vyatta and includes firewall, shaping, load balancing, etc.. They cost $79 bucks.. I needed to provide a router that could health-check and load balance between two ISP uplinks and provide traffic shaping and firewall features.. I took a look at the various options, and this thing blew doors on them for 1/10th the cost. They are not quite in the distribution chain yet, but worth your time when you can get ahold of them. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Come on Unbt! (AF-5X)
I have two pair...will share my story in the next couple days. I have 8
more on order.for three weeks now!!
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:05 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz
wrote:
I have a pair ;-)
John
-Original Message-
From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:49pm
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Come on Unbt! (AF-5X)
That sounds like it's your story.
bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/20/2015 8:35 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
I got a note from Ubnt about a contest to 'Share your AF-5X story, and win
a pair of radios'� I would love to submit a story *!! IF I COULD
GET RADIOS !!*
Get them into distribution before you start having contests� I have
a standing order with my distributor, but they say they have no idea when
they'll be getting more radios to fill it.
Nate
Re: [AFMUG] ER-X-SFP Switch/Router - 5 Port switch/router with SFP and POE
What voltage is it? On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: Well it takes DC into the box.. and comes with a wall wart to generate it.. So I guess you could feed it from your DC plant. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 5:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ER-X-SFP Switch/Router - 5 Port switch/router with SFP and POE DC or AC? On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I’ve been putting these new ER-X-SFP https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x-sfp/ devices through their paces the last couple of days and am really impressed with them. They are a 6 port gig-e switch/router that provides 24V passive POE power on all ports and includes an SFP port. The box runs debian so you can install your own utilities and scripts. The routing is based on a forked version of vyatta and includes firewall, shaping, load balancing, etc.. They cost $79 bucks.. I needed to provide a router that could health-check and load balance between two ISP uplinks and provide traffic shaping and firewall features.. I took a look at the various options, and this thing blew doors on them for 1/10th the cost. They are not quite in the distribution chain yet, but worth your time when you can get ahold of them. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart power supply
I thought everyone stopped using those years ago. I didn't even realize that they still made them. They aren't grounded and provide no path to ground for the radio. I just make sure that I explain to each customer that the 'POE' side provides power to the radio, and anything else that you plugin to it will be permanently fried. I haven't had anyone do that yet. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote: So is anyone else unhappy with Cambium’s decision to EOL the traditional power supply? The replacement part is a Ubiquiti or ePMP brick style. It costs more, does not include the power cord, and requires an additional CAT5 jumper cable. While the current supply has it’s issues (hard to plug into a power strip) it’s simple to troubleshoot over the phone with a customer with limited ways to screw it up. I think this is going to create more ‘miswire’ service calls. Mark
Re: [AFMUG] Looking for free/cheap old 2.4Ghz gear for amateur radio project
I have a box of bullets On Jun 6, 2015 7:53 AM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: If it's the factory panels, the manual says they're VPOL. I've never dealt with BAII but I can tell it's solidly built. http://www.intelek.cz/db/repository.nsf/v/37AD46F3A158DB32C12573A69029/$file/Manual_Alvarion_BreezeACCESS_II.pdf . These could be very useful. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 1:14 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: The panels are the subscribers. Alvarion breeze access ii you could guy them and rotate the arrray. Solid antennas. On Jun 6, 2015 1:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: We may have some coming back, recovered alvarion fhss and some sectors again. The last batch went to a junker. I think it's hpol though on the antennas. Tons of the panels if you can match the connector inside, the enclosures are bullet proof On Jun 5, 2015 10:56 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Someone got spanked round here recently using 2377 MHz for a ptp link from bank bldg to warehouse. Guess who uses that channel. Dont know what radios they were. 2500 to 2700 is packed on other side of river. Some legal some I don't know Jaime Solorza On Jun 5, 2015 4:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I think I have a Ubnt 120 2.4 sitting in the office Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 5, 2015 6:32 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this a few months back and got a few too bad we just threw away a bunch of gear answers so I'm trying again as a reminder. I'm thinking of posting this every 3 months if no one considers it annoying. I'm with a group of hams using wifi gear (mostly Ubnt/MT) at 2.3ghz in a project to modernize amateur radio communications. We don't have a big budget so if anyone has ~2.4ghz Vpol 60-120deg sectors, higher-gain antennas or Ubnt/MT/other wifi CPEs available cheap/free, please let me know and we can look at shipping. Or if any one here is a ham and has the free time to start building additional networks (I know that's unlikely) I can answer questions/help.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
I think he is talking about using 40MHz channels on the older M series, that didn't have gig ports. It was my understanding that the processor would get taxed as well on a 40MHz channel, making 30MHz actually work better. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Ubnt and epmp have gig ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 8, 2015 11:20 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I don't know how epmp does it. For UBNT, a 30mhz channel is just a fat 20mhz channel in the atheros chip. Single operation. For a 40mhz channel, it's really two 20s, meaning radio operations are ran twice. Loss in efficiency, also marred by the lack of gigabit port. On Jun 8, 2015 7:13 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I've never seeing much difference in performance on the ubnt M series between 30mhz and 40mhz channels, so yes, I would say that is true... but I'm not sure how much applies to ePMP - they do have a much a faster processor and on a software level they are very different. So far, I have been running all of our ePMP APs on 20mhz channels and PTP links on 40mhz or 20mhz, depending on how much capacity they need. I haven't really seen much need to go down to 10mhz channels with ePMP. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com wrote: I seem to recall that with the M series, at least, a 30 mhz channel works 'better' than a 40 because the 40 is really two 20 mhz channels bonded together, where a 30 mhz channel is a 30 mhz channel. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz I'm not that familiar with the ePMP's yet but I can tell you some things that we saw with Ubiquiti. One is that channel width does not scale with bandwidth that that Atheros chipset. For example, 40MHz channels rarely hit their theoretical maximum due to a variety of factors, noise, lower s/n, processor limitations, etc... Second, 20MHz channels seem to be the sweet spot but even with GPS sync, you have to deal with reflections. Third, 10MHz channels have more overhead as a percentage of total capacity and don't handle a lot of users well (above 40 for example with the older 400MHz chipsets. I'm starting to deploy XW radios with the 520MHz processors but everything is 20MHz now so I don't have a comparison). We did see peaks of 32Mbps with some customers on 10MHz channels but that's non-peak times. In peak times, we were seeing 8Mbps when more users were online. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz We have deployed 6 towers to begin our new EPMP network and 4 of those towers have a full cluster of 2.4 90 degree EPMP sectors. They are configured with ACS turned off now because in several cases they all ended up on the same or very close to the same channel. I have Front back designations and non overlapping channels set up on all towers. I have tried 40 mhz 20 mhz and now 10mhz channels and while the customer stability has gotten better the more I play with settings I have kind of hit a point I dont know what else to try. I have some that the uplink quality will vary wildly from 100% to 0%. Most have gotten better since I went to a 10mhz channel. Most of the customers get 12MB -30mb down in the wireless link test but the uplinks are as bad as .17. What is the cause of this poor uplink quality? Is it interfernece? My one 5ghz AP does not have this problem but even with noise many of these customers have -50 signals and oddly enough the ones with the great signals seem to be the ones that have the poorest link tests on the up link side. I also have customes with -65 or -72 signals that get 5MB up on the same sectors? Im scratching my head a bit on what the fix is for this? Should I leave ACS on and change everything to 10mhz channels? Will a full cluster with ACS on work all on the same channel? I'm used to FSK where you pick your channel and any channels that are adjacent will cause problems with connected SM's. So am I just applying old knowledge to a technology that it doesn't apply to? Craig
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
I don't know. I have had one M5 link that definitely performed better on 40MHz over 30MHz, but that link has been upgraded to licensed now. I just regurgitate the BS that they feed me on the forums. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: That doesn't make much sense since the wlan and eth ports are bridged. The cpu isn't involved unless you're routing/NATing the two interfaces. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I think he is talking about using 40MHz channels on the older M series, that didn't have gig ports. It was my understanding that the processor would get taxed as well on a 40MHz channel, making 30MHz actually work better. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Ubnt and epmp have gig ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 8, 2015 11:20 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I don't know how epmp does it. For UBNT, a 30mhz channel is just a fat 20mhz channel in the atheros chip. Single operation. For a 40mhz channel, it's really two 20s, meaning radio operations are ran twice. Loss in efficiency, also marred by the lack of gigabit port. On Jun 8, 2015 7:13 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I've never seeing much difference in performance on the ubnt M series between 30mhz and 40mhz channels, so yes, I would say that is true... but I'm not sure how much applies to ePMP - they do have a much a faster processor and on a software level they are very different. So far, I have been running all of our ePMP APs on 20mhz channels and PTP links on 40mhz or 20mhz, depending on how much capacity they need. I haven't really seen much need to go down to 10mhz channels with ePMP. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com wrote: I seem to recall that with the M series, at least, a 30 mhz channel works 'better' than a 40 because the 40 is really two 20 mhz channels bonded together, where a 30 mhz channel is a 30 mhz channel. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz I'm not that familiar with the ePMP's yet but I can tell you some things that we saw with Ubiquiti. One is that channel width does not scale with bandwidth that that Atheros chipset. For example, 40MHz channels rarely hit their theoretical maximum due to a variety of factors, noise, lower s/n, processor limitations, etc... Second, 20MHz channels seem to be the sweet spot but even with GPS sync, you have to deal with reflections. Third, 10MHz channels have more overhead as a percentage of total capacity and don't handle a lot of users well (above 40 for example with the older 400MHz chipsets. I'm starting to deploy XW radios with the 520MHz processors but everything is 20MHz now so I don't have a comparison). We did see peaks of 32Mbps with some customers on 10MHz channels but that's non-peak times. In peak times, we were seeing 8Mbps when more users were online. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz We have deployed 6 towers to begin our new EPMP network and 4 of those towers have a full cluster of 2.4 90 degree EPMP sectors. They are configured with ACS turned off now because in several cases they all ended up on the same or very close to the same channel. I have Front back designations and non overlapping channels set up on all towers. I have tried 40 mhz 20 mhz and now 10mhz channels and while the customer stability has gotten better the more I play with settings I have kind of hit a point I dont know what else to try. I have some that the uplink quality will vary wildly from 100% to 0%. Most have gotten better since I went to a 10mhz channel. Most of the customers get 12MB -30mb down in the wireless link test but the uplinks are as bad as .17. What is the cause of this poor uplink quality? Is it interfernece? My one 5ghz AP does not have this problem but even with noise many of these customers have -50 signals and oddly enough the ones with the great signals seem to be the ones that have the poorest link tests on the up link side. I also have customes with -65 or -72 signals that get 5MB up on the same sectors? Im scratching my head a bit on what the fix is for this? Should I leave ACS on and change everything to 10mhz channels? Will a full cluster with ACS on work all on the same channel? I'm used to FSK where you pick your channel and any channels that are adjacent will cause problems with connected SM's. So
Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits
I use a drill doctor also, but with the ability to do a split point. I have found the split point to help immensely in getting the bit started. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was doing some cable work on the second story of our local bank and had to drill some holes through the floor and rented a rotary hammer for the job. I forgot to tell the folks in neighboring offices that I was about to set that thing off for the first hole. Some poor lady showed up in the door of the room I was working in with eyes as big as saucers and a very startled look on her face. For subsequent holes I ran from office to office warning everyone prior to drilling the hole. That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Rotary hammers, fucking beasts. We were talking about our tapered bits. We have tons with one dull ring. 46 bucks for 20 holes adds up. On Jun 3, 2015 10:00 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I must have never used a rotary hammer then, hammer drills seem to work just fine for stone, masonry, etc. On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: Rotary hammer very different beast than hammer drill which is only good for stuff like tapcons. *From:* Jason McKemie *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:08 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits Yeah, never use anything but a hammer drill on stone/concrete/etc. On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: What you want for the concrete is a rotary hammer. A little spendy and the bit cost is astronomical, but they will bite through granite like it's nothing in seconds. We use rotary hammers for rohn wall mount kits going into brick, concrete, and stone. Have only tried the corded hitachi's, although dewalt has a cordless one I've been keeping my eye on. http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-DH40MRY-16-inch-Rotary-Hammer/dp/B000XVINQY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433378353sr=8-4keywords=hitachi+rotary+hammer is what we've used. http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCH253M2-Mode-Rotary-Hammer/dp/B00DD1UOTU/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8qid=1433378421sr=8-9keywords=dewalt+rotary+hammer is the one I've had my eye on. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 06/03/2015 02:37 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: We are trying different brands for 3/32 holes we need for door contacts and switches. Metal is tough then we hit concrete on door frame. Slow speeds and oil helps but we eat them up. For concrete and cinder block walls Hilti drill and bits have no problem. Jaime Solorza On Jun 3, 2015 4:26 PM, Chuck McCown javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com'); wrote: You can do it by hand with a bit of practice. *From:* Glen Waldrop *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:24 PM *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits My dad has always sharpened his own, so I tend to do the same. In my experience, if used in wood they can be sharpened with little issue. If you drill through metal, buy a new one. It loses some of the hardness on the edge. It really needs to be tempered again after sharpening. - Original Message - *From:* Rory Conaway *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:18 PM *Subject:* [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits We are paying $15-$25 for longer drill bits. When they start to get dull, just wondering if anyone has had success sharpening them or do you just buy new ones? *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO* *4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* *602-426-0542 tel:602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net* *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net* ** *“You may be an engineer if your idea of good interpersonal communication means getting the decimal point in the right place.” – Unknown*
Re: [AFMUG] Park City Utah
The Park City resort zipline sucks, but their mountain roller coaster is pretty awesome! On Jun 22, 2015 9:50 AM, Roger Timmerman timmer...@gmail.com wrote: Lots of cool stuff to do in the area. I would also recommend touring Temple Square in downtown SLC. I am especially fond of the Utah mountains and scenery. Here are a couple of my suggestions for activities close to Park City. The new zipline at Sundance just opened a couple weeks ago and is awesome. It's right between Lindon and Park City if you go through Provo Canyon. Parts of it get over 500ft high and you can really get going fast on it. http://www.sundanceresort.com/ziptour Timpanogos Cave National Monument is very cool, but requires reservations a couple weeks in advance and a pretty good hike with amazing views to get to it, but is well worth it. http://www.nps.gov/tica/planyourvisit/cavetours.htm Deer Creek Reservoir is close to Park City and has on-site rentals of boats, waverunners, etc. http://deercreekislandresort.com/ If you want to go a less strenuous route, but still want some amazing views, the aerial tram at Snowbird is very enjoyable. http://www.snowbird.com/summer/activities/tram/ Park City Resort has a few fun activities including their alpine slide. Their zipline is nothing compared to the one at Sundance though. http://www.parkcitymountain.com/site/summer/activities/index.html Roger On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Light my fire organ solo must sound awesome on that On Jun 22, 2015 8:20 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Come on down to Lake Point and we will show you around our place if you want. It is about 15 minutes west of the SLC airport. Just off of I-80 exit 99. Hill AFB has a nice aviation museum with a mounted B52 and I think they still have the SR71 inside. Great Salt Lake/Antelope Island is something to see. Golden Spike Monument is up there a bit. Takes some driving. I would never recommend anyone go see the spiral jetty... Of course Temple Square downtown SLC hits all the major historic Mormon stuff. The tabernacle is worth seeing inside. Free organ recital every noon. *From:* Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2015 8:08 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Park City Utah Chuck (or anyone else intimately familiar with the area), I am arriving in Salt Lake City on July 14th and will be in Park City for a week. I have plans to visit Right Manufacturing in Lindon but other than that I am open. Wondering what you would suggest for activities?
Re: [AFMUG] website in a box
+1 Wordpress template On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Hardware? Pi. Software? Probably just basic HTML. But it would help to have more details on what you want. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 26, 2015 12:21 AM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Do what every web developer does, install WordPress and plugins? On 6/25/2015 11:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: so whats the easiest thing to do. Not looking to spend any dough of substance, maybe worth 50 bucks a year I want to make a cheap website, pretty flat, a page describing the company and services offered, a link to remote support, even team viewer, a contact us page, maybe some product and a way to pay for it. pretty simple, maybe some downloads. I dont want to know anything about web designe, I have dreamweaver and dont want to even learn it. other than product, the site really wouldnt change other than maybe a promotion. I have the domain on google domains (i really like it because its dirt cheap and has dynamic dns, and its not godaddy) I was dicking around with a couple free hosts/builders, but apparently cookies or something on these dont show me the bazillion popups to awesome malware -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
So what does Telrad's POE look like? Is it the same unshielded pigtail style? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they would be very sad puppies. just sayin On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, cstann...@gmail.com wrote: How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the stockkeeping / freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure losing those sales won't keep them up at night. -- *From: * TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com *Sender: * Af af-boun...@afmug.com *Date: *Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 + *To: *af@afmug.com *ReplyTo: * af@afmug.com *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a bunch of sales, lol On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and didn't see a big reason people would want the old-style PSUs. I thought CTI had gotten some PSUs straight from the manufacturer years ago when there was a Motorola shortage, you could check with them. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Which is great...for you. Why can't I have a choice? Why are they taking it away if there is still demand? Why won't they let us go straight to whatever manufacturer they get them from?? On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE: -less outlet space needed -gigabit option (current 450 SMs can reach 75mbit down so it's likely next generation will hit 100+) -can choose whatever cable length is needed to go to PC/router. -won't have the broken RJ tab / wires pulling out of the RJ due to cable weight issues of the current PoE model With very big TO COMPUTER / ROUTER TO OUTSIDE ANTENNA labels, on both sides of the unit, customer wiring mistakes will be almost eliminated. I haven't seen that as a big problem on the PMP320. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a day and hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and which one they can't?? Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good decision and we are asking cambium to reconsider. The new POE sucks! Period! 2cents On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Check out the details at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732 Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/ Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone. Also eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution. Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers! -Sean On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0_nkw=canopy+power+supply_sacat=0 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Dear Cambium, Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to? It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures AND our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc. Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the manufacturer so that we can still buy them? -Sean ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
Re: [AFMUG] 24v syncinjector wiring
swap brown/brown-white and blue/blue-white (ie. swap blue with brown and blue-white with brown-white) I'm not sure about the other questions. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:45 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I had read these are both doable, 1. Can I power ubnt devices off these? what is the cross pinout? and do I need to turn off the sync pulse on that port? 2. Can I use a syncpipe parasitic on the syncinjector? Isnt there a particular cable pinout to do this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?
What / where is this?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news
this morning that they found the tools they think they used.
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part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/10/2015 8:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question
No On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location. Are the dishes sold for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?
Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question
Yeah, if you change the feedhorn maybe. Does anyone sell the feedhorn by itself? On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I believe if you just change the feedhorns out, yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location. Are the dishes sold for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?
Re: [AFMUG] Cisco IOS
If all else fails you can usually find the exact IOS filename and md5 on the Cisco website and then grab that file off of Google. *this statement was not approved by Cisco On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Maybe they are needing your advice which version to use? Cisco has two release tracks, M and T. Generally you want the latest M release, unless you need a T release for a specific feature or to support some new hardware module. http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=2106547 *From:* Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cisco IOS Thanks guys. They're suppose to have a Smartnet contract. I'll see what the hangup is. - Original Message - *From:* Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cisco IOS I don’t believe that has been possible for some time. When I log into my account, I only have access to software for devices I have under contract. I think some partners and maybe CCIE’s may have access to everything. It used to be a good Cisco reseller would load a router with the release of your choice before shipping, rather than whatever it left the factory with. *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:59 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cisco IOS Yeah, lots of folks bought something small and cheap to be official and then they had access to the whole treasure chest. Is that still possible? *From:* D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:49 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cisco IOS The company you are consulting for should have a SMARTnet contract with Cisco. If they don't then place a call to Cisco and they will sell you a contract via a reseller. If the firmware has a security issue then Cisco will usually allow you to download a patched IOS file version. In my former life I had a very small and cheap Cisco device on SMARTnet. As long as I had a log in I could download all the firmware I wanted for any Cisco device. ryan On 6/16/15 9:45 AM, Glen Waldrop wrote: My cable consult job is asking me for Cisco IOS since his cable support company can't/won't provide it. Is it like UBNT/MT firmware where you can just upgrade or does it require a purchase? � Not a Cisco guy, though I think that goes without saying... � � -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] Vivint I think
That looks like Rise/Digis/Jab to me. They use those MTI panels with 450 all over. On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Those look like 450 radios. Sterling, this was across from Jiffy Lube. You sure this is Vivint? Or maybe I got the wrong house driving around in that subdivision.
Re: [AFMUG] Google contact?
Have any of you figured out how to export our data from Google apps to another provider? Virtacore (who bought IKANO) is not willing to help and the Google FAQ leaves something to be desired in that regard. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Christopher Tyler ch...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Yeah I aware of that :) But there was no communication from Google about the grandfathered Apps for ISP which was not handled by Virtacore. The domains that were handled by Virtacore do have to be migrated but that migration doesn't happen until July 9th for us. So this is a little early for that. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:29:24 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google contact? It has been discussed here or on WISPA probably once a month for the past year. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Christopher Tyler ch...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:24:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google contact? Maybe, but there was no official communication about it being shut down. No email to the admin account or anything. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:22:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google contact? Wasn't that program being shut down? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Christopher Tyler ch...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:14:57 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Google contact? Does anyone have an email contact at Google that they are willing to pass along? All of our apps for ISP accounts were disabled last night at about 8-9PM without notice. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107
Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
ok, that makes more sense. RTFA eh? On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net wrote: 3' 34dBi antennas. Gary goes on to say further into the post that they are 31dBi (actual gain).. https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/eXtra-Long-Distance-225-km-140-miles-AF-5X-Today-and-Tomorrow/cns-p/1258362 On 6/12/2015 9:52 AM, Ben Moore wrote: Isn't that even more impressive? Worked very well for this link. Not sure what tower was capable on this one... On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: huh? We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and 5' antennas? On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain. 31 dBi dishes! AF5 with 23dBi. I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had links in that area. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
It's definitely impressive, but why wouldn't you have used a 34db dish? On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Isn't that even more impressive? Worked very well for this link. Not sure what tower was capable on this one... On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: huh? We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and 5' antennas? On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain. 31 dBi dishes! AF5 with 23dBi. I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had links in that area. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?
That had to have made a TON of noise!
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
wasnt this pretty much how the original escape from alcatraz movie went
down?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/07/us/new-york-escapees/
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
What / where is this?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news
this morning that they found the tools they think they used.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/10/2015 8:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Gingerbreak Exploit
There is a malware using that root exploit to install on Gingerbread though, at least from what I have read. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Speakign of, I need to root my Nexus 6. I swear Android has a man-crush on Apple. Closes more stuff off every day. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Dudgeon mike.dudg...@ubnt.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, June 1, 2015 8:56:25 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gingerbreak Exploit Old school rooting method for Android devices (mainly Gingerbread but some earlier devices). Chainfire is a legit dev, also one of the main Android devs, highly respected in that scene. The methods of gaining root often trigger antivirus, even newer methods (e.g. towelroot by geohot). On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That's a developer forum and you caught the actual source code for the malware probably from someone that knowingly requested it. It wasn't an in the wild infection. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, June 1, 2015 1:50:52 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Gingerbreak Exploit Barracuda caught my first instance of Gingerbreak on some Android device. I’ll track it down tomorrow and see what type of device but this is the first Android virus I’ve seen. This email is from the Barracuda Web Filter. We have detected and blocked the download of: VIRUS Andr.Exploit.Gingerbreak-1 from the server:dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com with the URL:http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/5/7/8/7/7/3/GingerBreak_exploit_source_from_APKv1.2.zip Looks like those boys have a server set up in the US now unless this is a false alarm. *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* *602-426-0542 602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net* *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/* *“You may be an engineer if your idea of good interpersonal communication means getting the decimal point in the right place.” – Unknown*
Re: [AFMUG] WTF UBNT
The newer production firmwares don't allow it either. WPA2-AES offloads the encryption to a dedicated processor or something like that, so it does not affect the performance of the radio. It seems like that is what I read. We use it on all of our links anyway so it wasn't a change for us. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: Downgrade firmware, or I'm pretty sure you need to drive to the other end (or use a backup link) to change it. Don't use beta firmware on production links... (I understand using beta firmware is often required to get the cheap Ubiquiti equipment working well, but that's another discussion). On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:14 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: does anybody know a trick to get a radio set to client that is using wpa2-tkip to connect to this AP that will only do none, wpa-aes and wpa2-aes. I dont know why the link was set up tkip, but apparently this beta firmware wont let you use it On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:58 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Please select a valid Wireless Security. Weak wireless security (WEP, WPA-TKIP, WPA2-TKIP) is not supported any more nice thing to have pop up on a production backhaul that just powercycled. im assuming the link didnt come back up on this old link because its not transmitting? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Guy wires and signal issuws
I have had APs and BHs shooting straight through them with no noticeable difference. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: when we asked about this on our licensed link we were told probably not, but that it potentially could, dependent on size, distance, etc about a railing. But it was pointed out that at that kind of investment is it worth potentially having unfix-able issues over something fairly trivial like a couple feet where optional. Ours was on a mast, so we went with a taller mast plan and more ballast per the spec sheet. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I have shot right into them before and dont seem to have enough issue with it to notice a problem. Craig -- *From: *Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, June 1, 2015 6:08:08 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Guy wires and signal issuws If any of you have backhaul on guyed towers, will the wires ever affect the signal strength on licensed or unlicensed paths? I'm just wondering how much signal we lose if the guy wire is in our wireless path out and if it being closer to the antenna makes it worse than if the wire is further out. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
The DVR should work great. I use their UniFi video software on a Windows box and it works well, and has a phone app. I like it a lot better than the video surveillance that I am using at home. I am planning to switch it all out for UniFi, and use my home server as the NVR. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Good to know. I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some cameras that I have. I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not allow remote access so screw it. *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with them, for the price. I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really only work for watching the road in. Plus, the current dome has a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I know this topic has been discussed here before. What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower? Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone approaching. I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a zoom at the tower box. We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has happened. This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. Took batteries, cut power cables, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes
I didn't mention the Cisco...there is also a Cisco and a site monitor. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, two rockets...not three. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Two of those Energizer AGM batteries get me 18 hours of runtime with three UBNT Rockets, one Nanostation, one Loco, one Nanobeam, and one AirFiber (upconverted from 24 to 48v).
Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes
Two of those Energizer AGM batteries get me 18 hours of runtime with three UBNT Rockets, one Nanostation, one Loco, one Nanobeam, and one AirFiber (upconverted from 24 to 48v).
Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes
Sorry, two rockets...not three. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Two of those Energizer AGM batteries get me 18 hours of runtime with three UBNT Rockets, one Nanostation, one Loco, one Nanobeam, and one AirFiber (upconverted from 24 to 48v).
Re: [AFMUG] 3P-36 Sector Antenna Mount with 3 36” Masts
Maybe he uses MTI? On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 2 foot sectors?? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 21, 2015 9:21 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Yes I always order the 48 version tho because you can stack 2 APs vertically on each pole giving you 6 APs per side. -sean On Wednesday, May 20, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=72 I want to be clear on what this is. The picture is very confusing to me and of course it's the one of few products without a mechanical drawing =( Does this attach to one pipe and give you three 3' poles? Like a triple MTOWP? PS: data sheet has a broken image Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] vivint
They are building a hub on my Mother-in-law's house. I plan to check it out more closely next time I'm down there. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: I am in... Jaime Solorza On May 22, 2015 6:57 AM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: if someone wants to pay somebody lots of money to fail I am always available. While I have succeeded at a few things, I have plenty of failures I can put on my resume. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: They are spending all that money for 10MHz? Maybe they should merge with Vivint. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint That’s OK, supposedly LightSquared has lined up Ivan Seidenberg as their new chairman ex-bankruptcy, as well as $1.25 billion in financing. http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizons-former-ceo-and-former-fcc-chairman-push-lightsquareds-case-directl/2015-05-20 I suppose by chairman they mean chairman of the board, not CEO? I thought Seidenberg was smarter than your average Baby Bell CEO, but what’s he doing with this zombie that refuses to stay dead? *From:* Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint Who was that? I think Brett and Dean went over? Did Dean leave? They tried to head hunt me for that position in 2013, but I was under non-compete with the sale of Rapidwave. Instead they got Roger Timmerman. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogertimmerman It’s a joke, right? They got the guy who worked on the failed iProvo Fiber project, that then went to become CTO of the (arguably) failed Utopia Utah fiber project and put him in charge of a (arguably) failure of a wireless system. Makes me laugh. But I hear he’s making at Vivint, so I guess who’s the one laughing? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brett A Mansfield *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:33 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint Haha, funny you mention that! Their recently former COO is now one of my customers. He was the Chief Ops Officer specifically for Vivint Wireless. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 21, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 5 GHz with FSK doesn’t even penetrate walls and vegetation. Be interesting to see what happens to their chief technology officer when the truth begins to filter up to the C level. *From:* Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint Vivint is also relaying through their internal/half-duplex routers to avoid putting antennas on the roof. That was their original idea. They are finding out that most people need outdoor installations. For some reason, 5GHz with 256QAM doesn’t penetrated outside walls and vegetation. That’s a handy piece of information to have when you are planning to spend tens of millions of dollars. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brett A Mansfield *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint I have several customers on 3.65 links, so vivint doesn't interfere with their signal. But I had one of these customers call me a week ago and tell me they are having massive buffer issues. When I went to check it out I saw that Vivint had put up a hub home right next door. My customer said it went up two days before and that is when they started having their issue. So Vivint is causing so much interference in the 5GHz area that people's home routers aren't even working. I gave her a 2.4GHz router and she is happy now. So, even if you get the 50Mb to your Vivint device, you won't be able to use it over your wireless network in 5GHz. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 21, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload on licensed spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and co-location costs, all of which requires a high-density of users. Then they deploy a non-TDMA mesh protocol so that when the density starts to increase, they cause their own interference. The 5GHz technology they are deploying can’t support the density they need to make this profitable. Then when connections don’t work, they deploy hacked together flat-panels to make the connection which then causes problems for other users because the flat-panel is too directional. I’m really not sure who is designing this but it reminds me of the EarthLink mesh deployments. What I can’t figure out is how that design gets past a technical and financial review. This is a
Re: [AFMUG] Tower light monitoring
Site Monitor? On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:57 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: What's the best tool to use? On May 20, 2015 6:08 AM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: Most controllers made in the last decade have a discrete output giving you an open close you can monitor with a bunch of stuff. If not that you'll have to monitor current. On May 20, 2015 5:48 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: What does everyone use for monitoring tower strobe. Just took over this site and need to monitor the lights
Re: [AFMUG] Rise Broadband
There was an interview last year that mentioned that Jab was uniting all of their networks under one name by the end of last year. Then there is this http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/fixed-wisp-rise-plans-network-upgrade-it-unites-under-one-brand/2015-05-15 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: So it got a rise out of you? *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 8:36 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise Broadband Channeling Don Draper: The word Rise (in this context) makes me think of both derision and viagra. *From:* Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:33 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise Broadband pretty sure it's just a single brand effort. They just blasted postcards everywhere around here. -- *From:* Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 8:30 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rise Broadband Anyone know anything about Rise Broadband? Digis (JAB) is no Rise Broadband in parts of Utah.
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with them, for the price. I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really only work for watching the road in. Plus, the current dome has a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I know this topic has been discussed here before. What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower? Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone approaching. I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a zoom at the tower box. We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has happened. This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. Took batteries, cut power cables, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
