Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-24 Thread Simon Westlake
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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-23 Thread Robert
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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-23 Thread Mike Hammett
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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-23 Thread Sean Heskett
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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-23 Thread Sean Heskett
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Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
QYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:15:11 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? > > Can you block/thrott

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-22 Thread Mike Hammett
AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Can you block/throttle a VPN connection with DPI? Make it so that if the customer turns it on the VPN their connection gets worse than with it off? On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Jeremy < jeremysmi...@gmail.com > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-22 Thread Simon Westlake
ilto:wirel...@htn.net>> Sent: 6/21/2017 3:18:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? We fade out our usage based plans. *Every* single customer who had to pay surplus makes us a lot of work. Calls from each single fami

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-22 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
t; >> That's an interesting point. >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net> >> To: af@afmug.com; "Wireless Administrator" <wirel...@htn.net> >> Sent: 6/21/2017 3:18:07 PM >> Subject

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Jeremy
at's an interesting point. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net> > To: af@afmug.com; "Wireless Administrator" <wirel...@htn.net> > Sent: 6/21/2017 3:18:07 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the X

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Adam Moffett
That's an interesting point. -- Original Message -- From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net> To: af@afmug.com; "Wireless Administrator" <wirel...@htn.net> Sent: 6/21/2017 3:18:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? W

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Jeremy
tp://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Mark - Myakka Technologies" <m...@mailm

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Steve Jones
tube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Mark - Myakka Technologies" <m...@mailmt.com> > *To: *"Simon Westlake" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:06:53 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ready for t

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Simon Westlake
-- Original Message -- From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Robert Andrews
lt;mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Yeah, this sucks for us. Even worse, many of these games come out with dual licenses so that you can play on Windows 10 or

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Westlake Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Simon, But metered billing makes them think about what they are doing. Does the baby need to be falling asleep watching a 4K movie? The best way I can put it is renting an apartment with utilities included.

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Cameron Crum
that exceed it. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Wireless > Administrator > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:00 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? > > &

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Mike Hammett
tlake" <simon@sonar.software> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:13:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Does it really though? My kids watch Netflix on my 4K TV, I'm not always there making sure they're watching HD stuff instea

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Mike Hammett
: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Simon, But metered billing makes them think about what they are doing. Does the baby need to be falling asleep watching a 4K movie? The best way I can put it is renting an apartment

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Rory Conaway
You can always put a monthly cap on there and disconnect the 5% of users that exceed it. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Wireless Administrator Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Wireless Administrator
Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 2:07 PM To: Simon Westlake Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Simon, But metered billing makes them think about what they are doing. Does the baby need to be falling asleep watching a 4K movie? The best way

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
start billing for >>> consumptionor jack the price way up. >>> >>> They were looking only at streaming video trends, and didn't even >>> consider stuff like this. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "Jeremy

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Simon Westlake
:* Wednesday, June 21, 2017 2:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Well, until that happens, I think it's a pretty good option. It's going to be a pretty big technical hurdle for someone like DLink to offer a scalable VPN solution to hundreds of thousands

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/21/17 11:18, Colin Stanners wrote: They don't, but if DPI becomes popular at ISPs and customers notice, I guarantee that router manufacturers will offer a VPN service that covers the whole house for a few bucks per month, that can be activated with a single click after monthly billing is

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Paul McCall
:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Yeah, this sucks for us. Even worse, many of these games come out with dual licenses so that you can play on Windows 10 or XB1 for

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Paul McCall
Yep, guaranteed that will happen From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? They don't, but if DPI becomes popular at ISPs and customers notice, I

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Simon Westlake
om: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Yeah, this su

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Colin Stanners
o either start supplying 100meg, or start billing for >>> consumptionor jack the price way up. >>> >>> They were looking only at streaming video trends, and didn't even >>> consider stuff like this. >>> >>> >>> >>> --

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Simon Westlake
, if your issue is capacity, and you have no option to increase capacity due to spectral limitations. On 6/21/2017 1:06 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Simon, But metered billing makes them think about what they are doing. Does

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Simon Westlake
even consider stuff like this. -- Original Message -- From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 1

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Simon Westlake
doesn't, if your issue is capacity, and you have no option to increase capacity due to spectral limitations. On 6/21/2017 1:06 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Simon, But metered billing makes them think about what they are doing

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Simon, But metered billing makes them think about what they are doing.  Does the baby need to be falling asleep watching a 4K movie?  The best way I can put it is renting an apartment with utilities included.  If I'm renting

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Colin Stanners
like this. >> >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? >> >> Yeah, th

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Steve Jones
versubscription ratio to support peak hours hi def streaming without >> complaint. >> As adoption of 4K video increases, that ratio will approach 1:1. You'll >> have to either start supplying 100meg, or start billing for >> consumptionor jack the price way up. >

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Mike Hammett
- From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:17:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? I'd love to see all the software updates from Apple, Microsoft, etc throttled back heavily. The end us

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Adam Moffett
results and I have to be like, "yeah you're using all your bandwidth downloading something from Microsoft" -- Original Message -- From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/21/2017 1:11:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Josh Luthman
l > have to either start supplying 100meg, or start billing for > consumptionor jack the price way up. > > They were looking only at streaming video trends, and didn't even consider > stuff like this. > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Jeremy"

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Simon Westlake
t; To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Yeah, this sucks for us. Even worse, many of these games come out with dual licenses so that you can play on Windows 10 or XB1 for the

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
didn't even >> consider stuff like this. >> >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox on

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Rory Conaway
now. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? I read some scary stuff the other day along a similar vein. Basically if you're selling 25mbps

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Steve, +1 -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Steve Jones
didn't even consider > stuff like this. > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? > > Yeah, this sucks

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
this is why you need to build you networks to handle 50mbps and 100mbps plans to customers and then charge thme for this "special gamer package" a nice hefty price. If they have no other options they WILL pay for it... They crave it... On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:03 AM, Jeremy

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-20 Thread Jeremy
Yeah, this sucks for us. Even worse, many of these games come out with dual licenses so that you can play on Windows 10 or XB1 for the same purchase. I bought a couple games and checked it out. It was amazing to be able to just continue my Halo Wars right where I left off on my laptop, but it

[AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

2017-06-20 Thread Eric Kuhnke
This will be the new normal with the next generation Xbox, when many customers start bringing them home... https://m.hardocp.com/news/2017/06/18/forza_motorsport_7_will_be_100gb_download