Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-11-16 Thread Jason McKemie
I sure hope there are enough of them. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:54 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > There are always plenty of senate and congressional seats in super safe > districts willing to obstruct. > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 9:36 PM Jason McKemie com> wrote: > >> I think the real concern is no

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-11-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
There are always plenty of senate and congressional seats in super safe districts willing to obstruct. On Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 9:36 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I think the real concern is not just him being president, but that many > Republicans are afraid of going

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-11-15 Thread Jason McKemie
I think the real concern is not just him being president, but that many Republicans are afraid of going against him due to possibly alienating their constituents. Couple that with a Republican congress and probably a stacked supreme court - there will likely be no checks to executive power. > On

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-11-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Good article. On Nov 15, 2016 6:31 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Funny you should mention that. I just listened to a Freakonomics podcast > that discussed that very issue. You can listen to the poscast (about 47 > minutes), or probably read through the arguments in the text. This is > essentially

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-11-15 Thread Bill Prince
Funny you should mention that. I just listened to a Freakonomics podcast that discussed that very issue. You can listen to the poscast (about 47 minutes), or probably read through the arguments in the text.  This is essentially a discussion between Stephen Dubner (Mr. Freakonomics) and Eric Pos

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-20 Thread chuck
self cancel. I like to be an optimist. (My solar panels would probably not survive though). -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 10:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I worked at LLL in the early 80's for ab

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-20 Thread Robert Andrews
can handle it. Fear mongering. But if you believe in it, I have a solution. Just put my surge suppressors on everything and you will be OK. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-20 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
ent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:39 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > > > Chuck, > I would have thought you have read "One Second After" A low yield > nuke can do a lot more damage at 500K feet than creating a smoking hole >

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-20 Thread chuck
, I have a solution. Just put my surge suppressors on everything and you will be OK. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Chuck, I would have thought you have read "One Second After

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-20 Thread Robert
Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I will look up the speech How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems to be doing? The right (I do live in Alabama) seems to beli

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Lewis Bergman
dian.com/world/2011/feb/15/defector-admits-wmd-lies-iraq-war > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:07 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > I remember very clearly the media covering how Saddam would not allow >

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 8:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? As long as his missiles keep having difficulty and his yields are low, he can’t do much. Wiping out a portion of LA for example might be the worst case scenario. And then of

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Sam Morris
annot imagine them taking that risk. *From:* Paul Stewart *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 7:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? North Korea scares the shit out of me … out of control dictator that is not in the right mind and has a nuclear arsenal at his dis

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
>> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pamela-anderson-brings-w >> ikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-theorie >> s-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller >> *Se

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Chuck McCown
And James Franco. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Don't forget he's buddies with Dennis Rodman. bp On 10/17/2016 8:37 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: He likes Katy Perry tho On Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Bill Prince
ks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ]*On Behalf Of*CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:*Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I will l

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Paul Stewart
n-lunch-and-conspiracy-theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R >> >> <http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pamela-anderson-brings-wikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R> >> >>   <> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun.

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Sean Heskett
/pamela-anderson-brings- > wikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy- > theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > ] *On Behalf Of *CBB > - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
hat our >> leaders are doing and why they're doing it then that is not ok with me. If >> we're afraid of Julian Assange revealing something embarrassing then maybe >> we're doing too many embarrassing things. >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >&

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
of Julian Assange revealing something embarrassing then maybe > we're doing too many embarrassing things. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Ken Hohhof" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 10/17/2016 9:24:07 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? &

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2016-10-17 Thread Adam Moffett
nge revealing something embarrassing then maybe we're doing too many embarrassing things. -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/17/2016 9:24:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Interesting. How long will that last, 15 mi

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Chuck McCown
: Monday, October 17, 2016 8:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? What’s actually worse than his nuclear weapons is his million man army sitting on the border with South Korea. We can’t stop him with conventional weapons if he decides to invade. Rory From

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
nvade. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 6:57 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > > > > As long as his missiles keep havin

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Rory Conaway
: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? As long as his missiles keep having difficulty and his yields are low, he can’t do much. Wiping out a portion of LA for example might be the worst case scenario. And then of course they will be turned into a glowing smoking hole in

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Chuck McCown
: Paul Stewart Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 7:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? North Korea scares the shit out of me … out of control dictator that is not in the right mind and has a nuclear arsenal at his disposal…. scary shit if you ask me… oh and has a

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Paul Stewart
CBB - Jay Fuller > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > > > I will look up the speech > > How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems to be do

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Chuck McCown
: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Interesting. How long will that last, 15 minutes? I’m not sure why you like Assange so much, he is very anti-US and several of his Wikileaks cofounders have parted company due to his runaway ego. Vox leans left so you probably

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
ory Conaway Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 8:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Wikieleaks is now saying that Assange has been cut off from Internet by some State Power right when he was about to release the John Kerry emails. Rory From: Af [mailto:af

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Chuck McCown
. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/15/defector-admits-wmd-lies-iraq-war From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I remember very clearly the media covering how Saddam would not allow inspectors in and how

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Chuck McCown
: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I remind youcongress had to vote on that. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 10:50 PM W

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2016-10-17 Thread Rory Conaway
, 2016 12:43 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I will look up the speech How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems to be doing? The right (I do live in Alabama) seems to believe they are bracing for war if

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I will look up the speech How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems to be doing? The right (I do live in Alabama) seems to believe they are bracing for war if Trump does not get elec

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-17 Thread Adam Moffett
I don't believe either Clinton or Trump will get us out of these foreign entanglements. I think they'll both start new ones. -- Original Message -- From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/17/2016 1:43:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread Bill Prince
Funny you should mention that. I just listened to a Freakonomics podcast that discussed that very issue. You can listen to the podcast (about 47 minutes), or probably read through the arguments in the text a bit quicker. This is essentially a discussion between Stephen Dubner (Mr. Freakonomics

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I think most people think the president is a dictator or something. As far as making real changes at home, you're right. My concerns specifically in relation to trump are more about his apparent volatility. We're putting this guy in charge of the nuclear codes and in charge of negotiations with

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
the Democratic candidate who wants to be tough on Russia? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Then listen to the whole speech. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Then listen to the whole speech. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:08 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
Then listen to the whole speech. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I remember very clearly the media covering how Saddam would not allow inspectors

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
you can’t spend that much time, skip to around 33:00.  https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4398929/sen-kerry-iraq-war-authorization-speech-9oct02 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does i

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2016-10-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
-kerry-iraq-war-authorization-speech-9oct02 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? I remind youcongress had to vote on that. Sent from my

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes I am aware of that... Not a lackey to anyone On Oct 16, 2016 10:07 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: I remind youcongress had to vote on that. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matt

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2016-10-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I remind youcongress had to vote on that. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 10:50 PM Well Bush decision to invade Iraq did affect my family.. My son wh

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2016-10-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Well Bush decision to invade Iraq did affect my family.. My son who proudly served in Iraq came back injured physically and mentally. He is still under medical care . We should have gone after Taliban in Afghanistan and wiped them out along with poppie fields. Hussein was a dictator I know but

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The incidentals matter. Never the primaries. On Oct 16, 2016 10:39 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > I have been saying this for many years. I think you said it a lot more > gracefully than I did though...I might be stealing this for a status update > > And kudos to The West Wing tv show for hav

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-10-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I have been saying this for many years. I think you said it a lot more gracefully than I did though...I might be stealing this for a status update And kudos to The West Wing tv show for having big block of cheese day:) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "

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2016-10-16 Thread Bruce Robertson
Exactly right. Who is president has some effect, but not game changing. Most people in the country are middle of the road, and the progress of the country reflects that. The pendulum swings back and forth, but always reverts to the mean. On 10/16/16 8:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Congress mak