Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with godfather's name

2019-03-27 Thread Cheri Mello
think Sebastiao's 2nd name is Alexandre, but I can see the "xandre" or "xondre" which makes me think Alexandre, but I don't think it's right. More people need to take a look. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sidenote help. Sao Pedro, Santa Maria

2019-03-27 Thread Cheri Mello
and Jacinta Umbelina, and where the record can be found. None of this explains them making the note in 1997 though. Maybe there was property and this is when it got settled Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marianna - Baptism?

2019-03-26 Thread Cheri Mello
Debbie, It's not that unusual. John Raposo knows a lot about the history and may be able to shed some light on it. Some sources say the Portuguese started the slave trade, some say the Dutch. Regardless, the Portuguese were involved in it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosais, Sao Jorge, Jose Teixeira de Quadros, 1789-1875

2019-03-26 Thread Cheri Mello
Yeah, but you know how they kinda clip off the endings when they speak. So that's why I was wondering if it was supposed to be a closer spelling to Latin. But then again, they probably would have needed to spell out the Latin, regardless of how they may have clipped it off in speech. Cheri Mello

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosais, Sao Jorge, Jose Teixeira de Quadros, 1789-1875

2019-03-26 Thread Cheri Mello
Maybe it was a closer spelling to Latin?? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:45 PM Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > Donna, you will find that Joao/Joam, Sao/Sam (for

[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Genealogy Conference deadline is 2 months away

2019-03-26 Thread Cheri Mello
king forward to seeing you in Salt Lake City! Cheri Mello and Rosemarie Capodicci Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealo

[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale through March 31, 2019

2019-03-25 Thread Cheri Mello
-join.aspx?Group=MadeiraPortugal Cape Verde: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=CapeVerde Feel free to ask any questions you may have. Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Gene

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could use a little advice

2019-03-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Rosie, Can you provide the name, dates (or ranges) and location for each event? I am at a conference so hopefully Kathy Cardoza or someone can provide the link to the "how to" on the Azores GenWeb. Cheri On Mar 24, 2019 3:12 PM, "Rosie Paiva" wrote: > Hello there, > I am researching my family

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age of Padrinho

2019-03-24 Thread Cheri Mello
I don't know of a minimum age, but I've seen a 13 year old. I don't remember ever seeing a 5 year old. If someone has one, I am sure they will speak up. Cheri On Mar 24, 2019 3:11 PM, "Ângela Loura" wrote: > Yes, that's possible. > > escreveu no dia domingo, 24/03/2019 à(s) 19:45: > >> Is

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List of Seminary students

2019-03-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Debbie, All your posts related to this thread have now been deleted. You have to wait for Google Groups to resync it or whatever it does. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Mar 23, 2019

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List of Seminary students

2019-03-23 Thread Cheri Mello
NO, it IS the list of students and it may NOT be shared via this list. Please obtain the list from the Azores GenWeb (and read the directions on how to find the student list in that file). Thank you, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List of Seminary students

2019-03-23 Thread Cheri Mello
attached will be deleted. Sorry, but I have to do the right thing, and as the Listowner, I'm the one that they come down on. Thank you for understanding, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List of Seminary students

2019-03-21 Thread Cheri Mello
I would VERY QUICKLY download this to your computer and keep it somewhere before it disappears. The Azorean Government has been having a lot of talk about privacy, and this document violates it. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Paternal Grandfather's name

2019-03-21 Thread Cheri Mello
to work her line or she's an exposta. If she is the exposta, put "Pai Incognito" for her dad and Mae Incognita for her mom. That's what us researchers do for our expostos or pai incognito lines. Then there's no assumption on anyone's part. :) Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Resear

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Paternal Grandfather's name

2019-03-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Leonor, There's only 1 Leonor in the Azores DNA project on Familly Tree DNA and it's not you. I know who that other Leonor is. You need to join the Azores DNA Project on FTDNA so I can help you and explain to you want you need to do next, who to contact, etc. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores

[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas: Faial, Pico, Flores, Corvo

2019-03-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Lucas Dutra, dutra.astro at gmail.com Hi everyone, I am Lucas and I am a descendant of Van Hurtere (Dutra or D'Utra) family and I would like to buy this book [Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas: Faial, Pico, Flores, Corvo], or find in PDF if it is possible. I'm trying to discover all my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Genealogical Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, Tuesday, June 25 - Friday, June 28, 2019

2019-03-19 Thread Cheri Mello
(typically 2nd week of April if it works out with the hotel). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:35 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] das dores

2019-03-19 Thread Cheri Mello
Yes, I've seen "das Dores." Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:34 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: &g

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth date help

2019-03-19 Thread Cheri Mello
Liz, Since it's taken out of context, it doesn't make sense. Post the record so people can take a look. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:46 PM Elizabeth Migliori

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Joao Bernardo - Are these the same parents?

2019-03-18 Thread Cheri Mello
surname. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:32 PM 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I don’t think having 3 sons with the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] #33 name

2019-03-18 Thread Cheri Mello
Liz, It may just be the priest/scribe. I reach Sao Miguel and I haven't seen it very much. Guess that priest wasn't assigned to my ancestor's church. :) Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: my GGgrandfather

2019-03-18 Thread Cheri Mello
. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:20 AM Mike wrote: > I don't know how accurate the Minho site is but it shows a whole host of > ancestors, but for n

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] my GGgrandfather

2019-03-18 Thread Cheri Mello
Hunt every piece of evidence you can find. You don't know where that clue is. I've had someone find their freguesia literally carved in stone, on the back of the tombstone, although it was translated into English! It too, took me 4 years and 25 documents before I found it! Congratulations! Cheri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to transfer your DNA to Family Tree DNA

2019-03-17 Thread Cheri Mello
Ally, Not sure I understand what you mean. You just follow the steps :) Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:13 PM Ms AVA wrote: > Cheri - May I use your ST

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello 1909-2003 Azores

2019-03-17 Thread Cheri Mello
There's a Madeira Google Group as well: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/madeira-genealogy The Madeira Islands are a different archipelago than the Azores Islands. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello 1909-2003 Azores

2019-03-17 Thread Cheri Mello
Glad someone has seen the surname Morte. That's new for me. Thanks!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:00 PM JR wrote: > Morte is a name that can be found in Agua

[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's St. Patrick's Day sale ending March 17 (no need to be Irish)

2019-03-17 Thread Cheri Mello
. This year, DNA Day is April 25th, so they *could* have a small sale around that weekend. Just because they have in the past does not mean that they will this year. Also, I have no advance knowledge of what types of DNA tests they will put on sale. Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) Cheri

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello 1909-2003 Azores

2019-03-17 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Karen, You need a name, date, and specific place. Not just the island. Everything in the Azores is organized on the town (freguesia) level. The Madeira Islands, of which there are two (Madeira and Porto Santo) is a different archipelago than the Azores Islands, of which there are 9 (Santa

[AZORES-Genealogy] Mello 1909-2003 Azores

2019-03-17 Thread Cheri Mello
(Starting this thread over, as it wasn't a fresh thread and it'll mess up the system in the archives later) Repost for Karen LeFord, karenleford at gmail.com Looking for connections to family in the Azores. Very new to this shared email. All 4 of my grandparents come from different Islands in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Assistance - Graciosa - Pedro do Conde Sodre

2019-03-17 Thread Cheri Mello
een babies called "creatures." Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 2:38 AM wrote: > I noticed a Pedro Conde de Sodré in a family tree on family

[AZORES-Genealogy] How to start a new subject, topic, or thread on any List-serv or Group

2019-03-16 Thread Cheri Mello
chunk of the reading audience as they are busy. But you put "Silva, 1860-1880s, Sao Miguel island" and you've just made the busy people stop and look at your email. 4) In the body, put what you know, what research you've done, what you need help with, etc. Hope this helps those who ar

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Assistance - Graciosa - Pedro do Conde Sodre

2019-03-16 Thread Cheri Mello
Debbie, The records are the spelling rules before 1911. The translators use the modern spellings. So that is why you see the discrepancies. The number one: um, hum, and hu (with the tilde over the u) is one that confuses the translator. Many others exist too. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen

[AZORES-Genealogy] How to transfer your DNA to Family Tree DNA

2019-03-16 Thread Cheri Mello
o the JOIN button at the end. iv) If the Azores Islands is not suggested, scroll down to where it says "Search by Surname" and type: azores. v) When Azores Islands appears, click the link and follow the directions. Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer), Azor

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Students of the Seminary of Angra, 1862-2013

2019-03-16 Thread Cheri Mello
it to the Azores GenWeb for us! I had searched an ancestor name and freguesia which caused me to pick up that seminary document. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 8:36 AM

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tracking My Grandparents lost without a trace

2019-03-15 Thread Cheri Mello
Lake City. That information is here: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/2019slcazoresconfv12.pdf Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:15 PM Billy Shear wrote

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Students of the Seminary of Angra, 1862-2013

2019-03-15 Thread Cheri Mello
The last year is 2012, but the file is named 2013. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 7:11 PM Mary Bordi wrote: > I haven’t looked it this yet but it sounds like a gr

[AZORES-Genealogy] Students of the Seminary of Angra, 1862-2013

2019-03-15 Thread Cheri Mello
%2F20757-52d3953d1e%2FAlunos%2520do%2520Semin%25C3%25A1rio%2520Episcopal%2520de%2520Angra%2520de%25201862%2520-%25202013.xls=AOvVaw272mMggzifpSsVMJ91XT-F Good luck and happy hunting! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] visiting the Azores in May

2019-03-14 Thread Cheri Mello
ancestors are from the western end of the island, stay in Ponta Delgada. If they are from the northern side, you may want to say in Ribeira Grande. So it just depends. Others with Pico and Faial connections will probably have recommendations. Good luck and enjoy! Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Jose Cordeiro

2019-03-12 Thread Cheri Mello
say with more confidence what the GD should be). Try for a brother-in-law (cunhado) first. You may be able to talk them into Family Finder later. More data to play with. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Ta

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Jose Cordeiro

2019-03-12 Thread Cheri Mello
don't have 2 Francisco Joses married to 2 Maria Isabels in that same freguesia. I would think it would be very difficult to lie on a confession roll as well. The priest would find out. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Confusing Birth Dates

2019-03-12 Thread Cheri Mello
looking for the date on the paper. In my discrepancy case, I've recorded the date on the certificate in my program with notes written in my memo field. I bet half the people would do it the other way. Go with whatever you feel. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A few new books on the CCA

2019-03-10 Thread Cheri Mello
of Ponta Delgada). Maybe they figured out how to make more room and are accepting the records from the Civil Registries again. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 2:56 PM Leonor

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A few new books on the CCA

2019-03-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Rosemarie, Did you click the link? There's some Pico or something too. I only glanced down the list and then posted it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 2:49 PM

[AZORES-Genealogy] A few new books on the CCA

2019-03-10 Thread Cheri Mello
For those who don't subscribe to the Tombo.pt alerts, here's today's announcement about more available books from the CCA (in English): https://tombo.pt/en/content/new-parish-books-in-20190310 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth information

2019-03-09 Thread Cheri Mello
s no event for dispensation. I need that when researching Portuguese lines. So I created one, but looked at the Gedcom codes and assigned it to "EVEN" for "event" so when it imports to another person, it will come through in some kind of format that makes sense. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azor

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-09 Thread Cheri Mello
Sam, Those that grew up in the Azores or are more familiar with the history would have to chime in on how a child of an "adulterer" would be viewed over there. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira d

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth information

2019-03-08 Thread Cheri Mello
or "before" as well. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 9:00 PM JR wrote: > Yes, the problem is most genealogy programs do not allow users to create a > primar

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth information

2019-03-08 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Walt, My genealogy program has a Baptism tag (some program calls them events). So I enter the baptism date into the baptism field and leave it at that. The first time period doesn't record the birth dates. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-08 Thread Cheri Mello
nship with a married woman. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:09 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote: > While they both translate to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] José Xavier Soares & Henrique Machado Silveira

2019-03-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Patty C, We're a do-it-yourself list (well, we help you learn how), but if you prefer a researcher, there's a list on the Azores GenWeb here: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/researchers-available-for.html Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] US Naturalization pre-1906

2019-03-06 Thread Cheri Mello
aliva/spit tube samples. Good luck. I hope you jog his memory. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 9:34 PM Justin Brown wrote: > Hello Cherri and Mara, I have ba

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] US Naturalization pre-1906

2019-03-06 Thread Cheri Mello
the one with the freguesia (this was all done B.C. - before computers!) What do you know about your ancestor so far? What documents have you found? Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Mar

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tarrabazana/Tarrabagna

2019-03-02 Thread Cheri Mello
And Google translate makes it a drunk person with a vessel on his head. Oh my! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:09 PM Margaret Vicente wrote: > Re Tarrobes

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Genealogical Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, Tuesday, June 25 - Friday, June 28, 2019

2019-03-02 Thread Cheri Mello
It was posted about a month ago. Maybe you missed it or AOL ate it. LOL Here it is: https://t2m.io/YfiGdr8C Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 4:38 PM ':' via Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tarrabazana/Tarrabagna

2019-03-02 Thread Cheri Mello
For those who need it in English: female noun Long pipe to shoot arrows, stones, etc. with the blow. = ESGARAVATANA, SARBACANA, SARABATANA, ZARABATANA Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 1900 disaster Santa Maria?

2019-03-02 Thread Cheri Mello
was in the core area (lack of sanitation) and picked up the illness. The stuff we didn't know back then. Simple hand washing to prevent a lot of illness. Terribly sad. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another surname question: Santos and dos Santos

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Santos is the surname. "dos" the prefix. Literally: dos= of the (plural) Santos= Saints. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:37 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 1900 disaster Santa Maria?

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Could be a contagious illness as well. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:51 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I am trying to get my search for ancestors from Flores, Azores

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
They may both be siblings of Bob G's Maria. If his Maria was born on 31 Dec 1889, the baptism should appear in January of 1890. Unless he's off a year. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Sam, maybe you missed Rick's response. You put backslashes around the \surname\. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
I believe Rick is correct. I'm not a FTM user, but I don't think that program asks for Given Names and then Last Name. I think it just asks for Name and does the American thing of assuming the very last name is the surname. It doesn't work that way in all countries. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tarrabazana/Tarrabagna

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
OK Leonor. It's difficult to tell when someone "wonders out loud" in an email. We just have to pretty much take the writing at face value. I just didn't want you wandering down a path that may be false if what you wrote was taken at face value. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen R

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] which is correct, "z" or "s"

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
ut my American way of research onto a Portuguese naming custom. Here's an article from the Azores GenWeb on Naming Practices: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-m---z/naming-practices-of-the.html Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] which is correct, "z" or "s"

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
a Trindade Surname: Her surname is left blank. I can search by first name in my fully featured genealogy program, so it's not a problem at all. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 1,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tarrabazana/Tarrabagna

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
of French for a very long time. He has 0% French (even on his "American" side). It's evolved; I think he's now classified as 38% Ibeiran now. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 1, 20

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tarrabazana/Tarrabagna

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
If you are 26% Spanish, then you have one grandparent who is from Spain. You know who that grandparent is? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:19 AM Leonor Bertoni wrote

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] which is correct, "z" or "s"

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
About 1910-1911 they changed the "z" to an "s" (although we have people writing the records who weren't the best of spellers). There's been a more recent change too, but that won't affect what we are researching. Let our grandkids deal with that one! LOL Cheri Mello L

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation?

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
It is record # 10. (Info in a separate thread and not attached to this thread). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:01 AM Ray B wrote: > I went back to the webs

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tarrabazana/Tarrabagna

2019-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Z and S can sound the same in Portuguese. And it's a 5 syllable word. I'm wondering how "b" becomes "g" and a syllable gets dropped if your theory is correct. You have your immigrant ancestor from Spain to Lagoa and know he settled there? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Res

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] meaning of: contrecido por

2019-02-28 Thread Cheri Mello
CCA = Centro de *Conheci*mento dos Açores. Center of Knowledge of the Azores. Conhecer is to know and mento makes it an noun? I know Conhecimento means knowledge. So I picked up on your conhecido as being from that verb or root word. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] meaning of: contrecido por

2019-02-28 Thread Cheri Mello
conhecido = known. So Manuel de Souza Tavares (also) known by Manuel de Souza Falção. Basically the English "also known as." Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Feb 28, 2019

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with maternal grandfather’s name

2019-02-28 Thread Cheri Mello
Go find this Manuel Pacheco "Tarrabazana" marriage and all his kids. See how the name gets spelled in all those records. It may be a misspelling or perhaps the priest was hard-of-hearing or the scribe couldn't read the notes and took a guess at Tarrabazana. Cheri Mello Listowner,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joâo Borges and Anna da Cunha (early 17th century)

2019-02-27 Thread Cheri Mello
Which Lajes? There are a few different Lajes' in the Azores. Let us know the island. Thanks! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:18 AM Diego Santos wrote: > D

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A DNA Success Story

2019-02-26 Thread Cheri Mello
So you don't need to research it back in time. It's already done. Pedigree collapse is researching BACKWARDS. You're kinda morphing pedigree collapse into robust tree and confusing the terms :) Time to start a new thread! This one is completely off topic! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Resea

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

2019-02-25 Thread Cheri Mello
donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact the webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy the URL and send it to Kathy as well. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

2019-02-25 Thread Cheri Mello
Rocio is not in the surname section of James Guill's "A History of the Azores Islands." Which means it doesn't exist or he never encountered it in his research. You may need to collect all the siblings of Agueda to solve this one. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

2019-02-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Fernando, Thanks for the chart. I will print it out and figure out which Bartholomeu that I've merged to goof it all up. Glad you are straightening me out. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

2019-02-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Shirley A, Francisco & Iria marry in 1708 and have Marianna in 1723. That's 15 years after marriage. Not sure that I follow you. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho obit 1815AltaresTerceria

2019-02-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Doreen, On list-servs (aka mailing lists, such as this one). you can put in a request and I can remove the post. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 10:51 AM wrote

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A question about following the correct lineage

2019-02-24 Thread Cheri Mello
. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 9:59 AM Mary Bordi wrote: > I’m having the same problem with the Joao Bernardo da Silvas in Norte > Grande, Sao Jorge. Several of the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A question about following the correct lineage

2019-02-24 Thread Cheri Mello
siblings of both Manuel Correias and Maria de Sousas. And cross check for godparents. So long story short - if the records are old you are stuck with an educated guess. If the records are 1800s, DNA could possibly answer the question for you. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

2019-02-23 Thread Cheri Mello
a de Sousa Lima with a note saying Canto has her as Maria de Lima. This is the screwed up work that I have, but it's gotta be wrong. I think part of this came from Rodrigo Rodrigues' work as well. [image: image.png] [image: image.png] [image: image.png] Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researc

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

2019-02-23 Thread Cheri Mello
! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM wrote: > Ok I’ll look into that. Perhaps there are two Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria > de Sousa marriage records during tha

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

2019-02-23 Thread Cheri Mello
I have a merge error in my database. Too many of these guys floating around. That's what I get for having Souza, Sousa. I'm still working on standardizing names. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

2019-02-23 Thread Cheri Mello
OK, Shirley has nothing further on your Francisco Whomever and Iria de Mello. However, there are lots of Vila Franca researchers on the list, so give them some time to take a look. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

2019-02-23 Thread Cheri Mello
I called Shirley. She'll call me back after breakfast. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:00 AM wrote: > That’s great! Thanks for the marriage record. I agree the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

2019-02-23 Thread Cheri Mello
"I"s can look weird). Maybe he used Francisco Barboza at Marianna's baptism. I would think the key would be Iria. I'm going to call my cousin Shirley Allegre and tell her to log in and read your post. Who knows if she has more on your family. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen R

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Help

2019-02-22 Thread Cheri Mello
from Vila Franca, early 1700s. Post what you have on the family and that you are after Marianna's birth. Someone may have it. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Help

2019-02-21 Thread Cheri Mello
Both records refer to a Marianna. Can you please specify the right or the left? Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 4:58 PM wrote: > I’m trying to find Mariann

[AZORES-Genealogy] The difference between Y-DNA and mtDNA mutations

2019-02-19 Thread Cheri Mello
- due to their nature of mutating so slowly. The other half may be so far back (thousands of years) that we may not be able to find it with the paper trail. Hope this analogy helps! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with John Manteiga

2019-02-17 Thread Cheri Mello
and his mother was Mary Cabral. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 7:03 PM Leonor Bertoni wrote: > Hi, > Bates College in America (Sorry). I do not know when he was b

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with John Manteiga

2019-02-17 Thread Cheri Mello
Bates College where? America? Canada? Maybe England? Approximately when was this John Manteiga born and where (if you know it)? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 6:39 PM

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help 1640 marriage Domingos Goncalves e Catharina Rodrigues Altares Terceira

2019-02-17 Thread Cheri Mello
On the 14 day of FEBRUARY 1640, the church guy is Domingos Martins Franco, then Domingo Goncalves son of your Pedro Ennes and Barbara Dias, ja defuntOS (both deceased). You got the rest right. The last witness was Francisco de Andrade da Serra. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with side note: Manoel, s of Jose Joaquimde Moura and Jacintha Umbelina, Santa Maria

2019-02-17 Thread Cheri Mello
Here it is. You can also check the web board/forum/ archives too: <> Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 8:48 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy &l

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho obit 1815 Altares Terceria

2019-02-17 Thread Cheri Mello
. Even if you don't know how to use the DNA with your paper trail genealogy, trust me, you will want it. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 8:29 AM Leonor Bertoni

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Vitorino Medeiros/Monica deJesus Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel

2019-02-16 Thread Cheri Mello
It's the Arquivos site. The archive in Ponta Delgada said it was like a card catalog for all the islands. I don't think so. It does have Sao Miguel island stuff though: http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/ Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with side note: Manoel, s of Jose Joaquim de Moura and Jacintha Umbelina, Santa Maria

2019-02-16 Thread Cheri Mello
can get more out of it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 5:48 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hi all; Once aga

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho obit 1815 Altares Terceria

2019-02-16 Thread Cheri Mello
I'm learning future tense. We haven't got to past tense yet. Although I do have a vague idea from taking Spanish in high school. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 5:06 PM

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho obit 1815 Altares Terceria

2019-02-16 Thread Cheri Mello
I know the translation is something like "to make a will" and has to do with the verb "fazer," I believe. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 3:40 PM Gu

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho obit 1815 Altares Terceria

2019-02-16 Thread Cheri Mello
Thanks, I see the "por" now and was so caught up into looking for the word "testamento" that I just transformed the word into "foi." You know how your brain plays tricks and makes you see what you want to see! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Mig

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