From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nico Morrison
On 30/07/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/30/07, Nico Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But for heavens sake BBC - put a proper forum up, not this manky
'messageboard'.
The manky messageboard
How I enjoyed weekly update meetings with the BBC's message board
team. The cycle generally went like this.
Week 1: The message boards are knacked and overloaded, we are going to
put some extra servers in, that will double the number of messages we
can handle in a day
Week 2: BBC Technology /
At 16:13 +0300 6/8/07, Martin Belam wrote:
How I enjoyed weekly update meetings with the BBC's message board
team. The cycle generally went like this.
Week 1: The message boards are knacked and overloaded, we are going to
put some extra servers in, that will double the number of messages we
can
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 06:54:49PM +0100, Adam Leach wrote:
Andy wrote:
On 29/07/07, mike chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Options 3, Buy an off the shelf solution and use it. Bonus points if
the people whose content your licensing are happy with it and will
endemnify you against
I have installed the iPlayer on a handy PC (laptop). It was not that
easy, since you have install libaries etc. Is this user friendly? It
appeared to need a reboot to work. I didn't read the instructions.
The other thing that fooled me was that as well as the
username/password sent by
At 11:34 +0100 31/7/07, Dylan Dawes wrote:
I'd be interested to hear how others fare with iPlayer on their laptops.
I installed 4OD on mine recently and the CPU-hogging blighter brought
the whole thing to a virtual standstill even when it wasn't in active
use (I had to take it off in the end).
On 29/07/07, mike chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Options 3, Buy an off the shelf solution and use it. Bonus points if
the people whose content your licensing are happy with it and will
endemnify you against someone cracking it.
Yes use an Off the shelf solution, provided it satisfies the
Andy wrote:
On 29/07/07, mike chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Options 3, Buy an off the shelf solution and use it. Bonus points if
the people whose content your licensing are happy with it and will
endemnify you against someone cracking it.
Yes use an Off the shelf solution,
Thoughts:
Hated having to upgrade from WMP9 to WMP11 but installation was
seamless (although fiddly) the 2 downloads I've done whacked in at
9Mb/s (pretty much my max dl speed). Video quality is good - I'd guess
average bitrate 1300kbps. Does what it says.
But for heavens sake BBC - put a
On 7/29/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(boring DRM invective deleted)
Also why does the BBC trust's report not mention the fact that not
only is iPlayer Windows only, it is IE only? Did the BBC not tell them
they where doing this? Why can't it work with Firefox? iplayer:// can
be made to
On 7/29/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Must be full moon soon.
There really was a full moon last night, although reports of Ian
becoming a Werewolf are apparently wide of the mark :)
--
Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist
World Service Future Media Operations
On 30/07/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/30/07, Nico Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But for heavens sake BBC - put a proper forum up, not this manky
'messageboard'.
The manky messageboard is the BBC's DNA system, which talks correctly to
the single sign-on service, and
On 30/07/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/29/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(boring DRM invective deleted)
Also why does the BBC trust's report not mention the fact that not
only is iPlayer Windows only, it is IE only? Did the BBC not tell them
they where doing this?
On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 22:48 +0100, mike chamberlain wrote:
Given we all know DRM's broken, yet is mandated by the people who
own the content, what's better for the BBC to do? Write it's own and
be responsible for fixing any breakages, or use one the content
providers are happy with?
I think
At 10:51 +0100 30/7/07, Gareth Davis wrote:
On 7/29/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Must be full moon soon.
There really was a full moon last night, although reports of Ian
becoming a Werewolf are apparently wide of the mark :)
Monday, July 30, 2007: Full Moon 1:45am
On 28/07/07, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy, it would probably also be common sense to read around on the
topic before insulting the majority of the BBC developers who frequent
this list.
I read the restrictions that the BBC *claims* it has to implement.
However the section about
On 27 Jul 2007, at 16:18, James Bridle wrote:
Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in XP on my Intel Mac...
I installed it under Parallels on my MacBook Pro yesterday. No
problems during installation (I had sorted out any WMP issues a
couple of months ago when I last tried it).
Oh hark, I hear the ill-informed rabid bleat of the one-issue
conspiracy theorists with absolutely no interest in the BBC and its
content. Again... Must be full moon soon.
* sigh *
Rich.
On 7/29/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 28/07/07, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy, it
: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
On 27 Jul 2007, at 16:18, James Bridle wrote:
Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in XP on my
Intel Mac...
I installed it under Parallels on my MacBook Pro yesterday.
No problems during installation (I had sorted out any WMP
issues a couple
On 7/29/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That would actually be the same issue. No iPlayer client existed when
the BBC started the project. They created it. The BBC claim (possible
incorrectly) that there exists no cross platform DRM solution, and yet
they never considered creating it. If
again in the future, so no great loss. So, my hard drive has a
little more free space - for more lovely content! - as a result. ;)
-Original Message-
From: mike chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 July 2007 22:49
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer
On 7/27/07, James Bridle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in XP on my Intel Mac...
Doesn't appear to work on my MacBook, both booting into an almost freshly
installed XP SP2 and through XP via Parallels on Mac OS, through Internet
Explorer, or through
-iPlayer_Setup.exe
(which updates to the latest version periodically anyway)...
_
From: David Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 July 2007 09:30
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
On 7/27/07, James Bridle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking
On 28/07/07, mike chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd guess it's because Bittorrent gets traffic shaped out of existance on
a lot of ISP's.
Once ISP's see how much traffic Kontiki generates they won't traffic shape it?
Could always use encrypted bit torrent.
I would imagine an ISP would
).
Right, breakfast.
-Original Message-
From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 July 2007 14:24
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
On 28/07/07, mike chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd guess it's because Bittorrent gets traffic shaped
but only a few
use).
Right, breakfast.
-Original Message-
From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 July 2007 14:24
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
On 28/07/07, mike chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd guess it's because
in future discussions with
people who are new to iPlayer :)
-Original Message-
From: Martin Belam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 July 2007 20:56
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
So what is the time frame on a cross platform version? A week
Phil Winstanley wrote:
Any idea what time it’ll be available?
This press release [1] says it’ll be available from here on the 27^th : -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
When I go to that link I see a Find out more and register... link that
takes me through to the signup page. I'm connecting
On 27 Jul 2007, at 08:55, Phil Winstanley wrote:
Any idea what time it’ll be available?
This press release [1] says it’ll be available from here on the
27th: -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
Hi Phil
No idea what the official line is, but the registration form has been
up since last
On 27 Jul 2007, at 09:08, Steve Jolly wrote:
Phil Winstanley wrote:
Any idea what time it’ll be available?
This press release [1] says it’ll be available from here on the
27^th : -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
When I go to that link I see a Find out more and register... link
that takes
At 12:13 +0100 27/7/07, Martin Belam wrote:
As I understand it, it is that the Kontiki client underpinning the
iPlayer-library-component-thing doesn't support Vista yet
all the best,
martin
The beta testing (sic) is being carried out on a old version
Microsoft's operating system?
Is that
How are the accounts being allocated? I signed up this morning, and like
Owen I'm wondering when I'll hear.
Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in XP on my Intel Mac...
shorttermmemoryloss.com
Owen Griffin wrote:
On 7/27/07, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 27 Jul
On 7/27/07, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 27 Jul 2007, at 09:08, Steve Jolly wrote:
Phil Winstanley wrote:
Any idea what time it'll be available?
This press release [1] says it'll be available from here on the
27^th : -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
When I go to that
It does work on all initial target systems.
XP.
Vista, Linux Mac to come later.
The key word in Martin's post was yet.
R.
On 7/27/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:13 +0100 27/7/07, Martin Belam wrote:
As I understand it, it is that the Kontiki client underpinning the
Why is Windows Vista unsupported? Windows XP is no longer the
'current' version of the operating system and hasn't been for nearly
six months. Surely iPlayer should have been developed for both, or
what's the point of betas and testing and bla?
On 7/27/07, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I understand it, it is that the Kontiki client underpinning the
iPlayer-library-component-thing doesn't support Vista yet
all the best,
martin
On 27/07/07, Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is Windows Vista unsupported? Windows XP is no longer the
'current' version of the operating
2007 16:19
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
How are the accounts being allocated? I signed up this morning, and like
Owen I'm wondering when I'll hear.
Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in XP on my Intel Mac...
shorttermmemoryloss.com
Owen Griffin
Of Paul Daniel
Sent: 27 July 2007 19:56
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
Mine just came through. As quickly as I had hoped for and much more
quickly than I had expected. Just have to see now if it will work
through my proxy (Joost didn't).
Paul Daniel
On 27/07/07, Owen Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone tried using the iPlayer on Linux using wine?
I could wait for the Linux version but I'm quite impatient. :)
I doubt it would work under WINE. The BBC worked exceptionally hard to
make sure it won't run under non Windows platforms.
On 7/27/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Also if anyone at the BBC can answer this question it would be
helpful: If the BBC supports standards as it so often claims why use
Kontiki and not the more common and widely used Bit torrent protocol
for it's content delivery?).
I'd guess it's
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