RE: Travel advice needed

2003-04-02 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Miller, Jeffrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 2 april 2003 1:23 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Travel advice needed I'm sick of being told what a pinko-commie I am, _and_ I need some time by myself to vacation. I'm thinking of

RE: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Bryon Daly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 2 april 2003 1:37 Aan: Killer Bs Discussion Onderwerp: Re: New Computer But Still Not Happy Can't compare ADSL vs. cable speed, BTW -- Chello doesn't provide information about their connection

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 11:37 AM 4/1/2003 +0200, you wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: Where the peace movement should focus a large share of its attention is upon the weapons manufacturers in their own nations and in creating weapons embargoes on countries like NK. How about a push for a

Re: I hate inches! :-(

2003-04-02 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Damon wrote: Or 1 inch=10 yards (Warhammer Fantasy or Warhammer Ancient Battles, unofficially) Or 1 inch=5 feet (DD) Or 1 inch=30 meters (bet this drives Alberto nutty!)(Battletech) No, when I began RPGing about 20 years ago, we had to create fast conversion tables from the horrible DD books

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
Well actually I wasn't referring to Iran. I should have mentioned that. It was more in the region of Saudi Arabia and such that I was thinking. Sonja I was proven wrong anyway. But I still don't think the tone of the story you read, or heard, was quite right. Then again, we did a few foolish

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 12:19 am, The Fool wrote: From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html --- Christ demanded: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should

RE: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
Let me ask the question a little differently, then (not just for Kevin, but for anyone who wishes to respond): Is there anyone who is strongly opposed to this war in Iraq (e.g., who has been speaking out against it, protesting it, etc.) who supports Bush and thinks he is a good (or at least

RE: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 2 april 2003 13:20 Aan: Killer Bs Discussion Onderwerp: Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. NO! As

Humor: If US loses the war......

2003-04-02 Thread Gary L. Nunn
Humor images about what would happen if the US loses this war.. http://www.worth1000.com/cache/gallery/contestcache.asp?contest_id=597 __ Gary L. Nunn Delaware Ohio If you are going to walk on thin ice, you may as well dance.

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:45 AM 4/2/2003 +0100 Andrew Crystall wrote: To try and answer your question, I see the US as being the preeminent superpower for at least the next 100 years. *raises an eyebrow* I give you less than 20 to crash and burn. In spectacular fashion. I'll bet cash. I've got $100 2003 US

Re: RE: I hate inches! :-(

2003-04-02 Thread ks
Or 1 square = 10 feet, not worrying about just what the scale of the graph paper is until you have to total up more than, say, 5 squares' worth of hallway, and then a ruler might come in handy In DD 3e 1in=5ft is OFFICIAL, right out of the books. I wonder...if one does reply to one of

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. That sounds like your religion. JDG - What is evil without religion? ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL

Re: whitespace

2003-04-02 Thread ks
Most modern programming languages do not consider white space characters (spaces, tabs and newlines) syntax, ignoring them, as if they weren't there. We consider this to be a gross injustice to these perfectly friendly members of the character set. Should they be ignored, just because they

Re: Re: Computer Power Supplies

2003-04-02 Thread ks
Eh, I was in Ohio on Saturday figuring all this out anyone, is it really a better idea to buy a whole new case instead of just putting the power supply in my old one? That depends on what you value most: your wallet or the US economy. Buying only a new power supply will be cheaper

It Works!

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
A big thank you to all of you who helped me with my computer problems over the past two weeks. I replaced the power supply at CompUSA, and everything at long last seems to be working! The only interesting note is that I decided to buy a high-end surge protector and it turns out that the wiring

Low doses of X-rays may be damaging to genes

2003-04-02 Thread The Fool
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s820717.htm Low doses of X-rays may be damaging to genes Tuesday, 1 April 2003 Even a handful of regular x-rays may cause damage to DNA (Pic: Science Museum of Minnesota) Even low doses of radiation may cause damage to genes, German researchers

Hearts and minds

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/ 2003/04/02/do0201.xml (Excerpt) The British show the way to win Iraqi hearts and minds By Patrick Bishop (Filed: 02/04/2003) As I write this, the sound of bagpipes is drifting across the desert. It should seem incongruous,

Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator

2003-04-02 Thread Alberto Monteiro
MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: the world wide web is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/03 6:44:05 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been searching for _15 minutes_ for a map of Arizona that includes a Latitude/Longitude Grid [I want to locate Heinlein's _The Number of the Beast_'s Snug Harbor, in the northern strip of

Doh!

2003-04-02 Thread J.D. Giorgis
A journalist was fired from the LA Times for altering a photo to, quote, improve the composition. http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-ednote_blurb.blurb Right. JDG = --- John D. Giorgis -

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 7:06, John D. Giorgis wrote: The idea is absurd even 50 or 40 years from now. At the rate China is growing, we should be ready for trouble in 15. I don;t know what economic projections you are using, but even assuming that China's official growth figures are accurate

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I give you less than 20 to crash and burn. In spectacular fashion. I'll bet cash. Andy Taken. How much, and what are the conditions? I never turn down free money. Gautam __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo!

RE: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just thinking of a friend this morning. I know he's 100% anti-bush and he's 100% pro war. He said things after 9/11 that would have made Pat Buchanan blush. Kevin T. Heather MacDonald at the Manhattan Institute is at least a conservative

Re: Hearts and minds

2003-04-02 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hearts and minds Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:05:50 +0100 http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/ 2003/04/02/do0201.xml (Excerpt) The British

Re: Geraldo is expelled from iraq for reporting Western troopmovements in the war

2003-04-02 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Kevin Tarr wrote: Was there a memo proclaiming Marvin Long to be a judge of someone's character? Or that he is an authority on what a quality journalist is? Maybe his realm is just embarrassments. A judge of Geraldo's personal character? Of course not. Of his career

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings At 06:45 AM 4/2/2003 +0100 Andrew Crystall wrote: To try and answer your

Re: Geraldo is expelled from iraq for reportingWesterntroopmovementsin the war

2003-04-02 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Julia Thompson wrote: When did Geraldo become a veteran reporter and cease to be a national embarassment? Um, when he started working for Fox News? Julia Take That However You Like Maru I will, think you. Summer grass - all that | Marvin Long

Re: brin: the three laws of robotis are evil, why they mustbeeradicated

2003-04-02 Thread Matt Grimaldi
From: Alberto Monteiro The laws are to protect humans, not to harm robots. David Brin wrote: And my point is that this is the wrong approach. Once they become smart they will become lawyers and interpret the 'laws' any way they wish. Which is exactly what happens in Isaac's

Re: I hate inches! :-(

2003-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
Damon wrote: Hi Julia, Or 1 square = 10 feet, not worrying about just what the scale of the graph paper is until you have to total up more than, say, 5 squares' worth of hallway, and then a ruler might come in handy In DD 3e 1in=5ft is OFFICIAL, right out of the books. 1) I

Re: Down with Texas!

2003-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 4/1/03 12:31 AM, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I don't know whether to feel more sorry for you or not. Cubs? Once you are a Cubs fan...you are always a Cubs fan. My grandmother was a huge Cub fan. It was rare for her to miss a game either

Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread J.D. Giorgis
Dr. Brin recently made some harsh criticisms of the US war plans in Iraq, and suggested that it would be the prowess of US soldiers in the field that would salvage success in this war. David Frum's commentary on this from a few days ago seems particularly relevant - as well as providing some

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. That sounds like your religion. LOL! I don't have a religion. JDG - What is evil without religion? Evil. --

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you think the rest of the world will not feel (in some way or other) the consequences of US retaliation for the destruction of New York? Jeroen Make love, not war van Baardwijk I think that everything anyone

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
John D. Giorgis wrote: At 06:45 AM 4/2/2003 +0100 Andrew Crystall wrote: To try and answer your question, I see the US as being the preeminent superpower for at least the next 100 years. *raises an eyebrow* I give you less than 20 to crash and burn. In spectacular fashion. I'll bet

Re: the world wide web is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: I've been searching for _15 minutes_ for a map of Arizona that includes a Latitude/Longitude Grid [I want to locate Heinlein's _The Number of the Beast_'s Snug Harbor, in the northern strip of Arizona] and it ** doesn't exist ** !!! The WWW violates Sturgeon's Law

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 12:59 01-04-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: And you think the rest of the world will not feel (in some way or other) the consequences of US retaliation for the destruction of New York? I think that everything anyone ever wants to say about your politics is

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I think you should stick to attacking arguments and not the poster. Sonja And I think your husband could, perhaps, strive harder to avoid giving the impression that he wouldn't particularly regret such attacks as long as they were

SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-02 Thread Gilbert Gosseyn
It's late, time to go to bed. I hope I can find sleep. BAGHDAD (Reuters) ... On Monday, U.S. troops opened fire on a car which failed to stop at a checkpoint in the desert near the city of Najaf, only to find it was full of Iraqi women and children. U.S. Central Command in Qatar said seven

Re: Down with Texas!

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Matthew and Julie Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two favorite teams in baseball... The Cubs and whoever is playing the White Sox. Now all I am waiting for is for Gautam to swoop down with his baseball predictions and crush my expectations for the coming year. If he would only

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-02 Thread Damon
You should have also mentioned that it failed to stop despite repeated efforts on the part of the soldiers to do so. With the new proclivity of Iraq to use suicide bombers, I think their actions were justifiable, if regrettable. Damon.

super dmca update, now passed / pending in 16 or more states

2003-04-02 Thread The Fool
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/superdmca.html Alaska Earlier report that bill may exist is probably erroneous. Arkansas HB 2361; Reps. Wood, Adams, and Scroggin; text available; scheduled for consideration by House on April 1. Colorado HB 03-1303, Crane (House) and Lamborn (Senate); text of

Re: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 10:58 pm, J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 15:20 01-04-03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: Ouch! Why is it so much slower? ADSL near me is very competitive with cable internet speeds, and often considered superior. It's the money, really. The 256/64 Kb package is considerably

Re: the world wide web is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-04-02 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William Taylor wrote: I've been searching for _15 minutes_ for a map of Arizona that includes a Latitude/Longitude Grid [I want to locate Heinlein's _The Number of the Beast_'s Snug Harbor, in the northern strip of Arizona] and it ** doesn't exist ** !!! I'm closer

RE: List Glitch

2003-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Seeberger Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: List Glitch My mail keeps showing up as being received 2 hours before I send it.

brin: MPAA's super DMCA model legistation

2003-04-02 Thread The Fool
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/superdmca.html http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000346.html Unlawful Communication and Access Devices (a) Offense defined.--Any person commits an offense if he knowingly: (1) possesses, uses, manufactures, develops,

Re: Travel advice needed

2003-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: I'm sick of being told what a pinko-commie I am, _and_ I need some time by myself to vacation. I'm thinking of heading to Europe, preferably Belgium/Holland/Scandanvia. Anyone have any advice or things to point out? Spare yourself the trouble of specifically going to

Re: super dmca update, now passed / pending in 16 or more states

2003-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: Texas SB 1116; Sen. Tommy Williams; status and text available; in Criminal Justice Committee; no hearing scheduled. HB 2121; Rep. Ron Wilson; status and text available; in Regulated Industries Committee; no hearing scheduled. Anyone in Texas wanting to contact their senator

Re: the world wide web is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/03 8:54:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.topozone.com/ Do Mohawk AZ and that'll show you where the shrimp farm will be north of the highway. Fun site. William Taylor ___

Re: the world wide web is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/03 9:36:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the Arizone Strip is real, isn't it? :-) Real empty mostly. If you don't count Fredonia, which the Marx Brothers never visited, and the king in Jabberwocky never conquered. The strip is all

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I think you should stick to attacking arguments and not the poster. Sonja And I think your husband could, perhaps, strive harder to avoid giving the impression that he wouldn't particularly regret such attacks as

Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator

2003-04-02 Thread TomFODW
  MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious Reminds me of the line from Fiddler On The Roof: Villager: Rabbi, is there a blessing for the Tsar? Rabbi: A blessing for the

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 07:31:45PM +0200, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: No matter what you percieved as fact it still is no reason whatsoever to not be polite. If you wanne make it personal and fight it out dirty, take it off-list. On-list we are nice to each other and give on another the

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread TomFODW
They don't need to match the USA 1:1 for GDP either...just production where it counts (military, etc.) - they'll be prefectly willing to sacrifice civilian standards of life for tactical advantage. They'll be perfectly willing to TRY. I'm not sure they'll be able to get away with it for

Re: 101st Airborne Liberates Najaf, Crowds Cheer

2003-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
That sounds like good news. I was amused by this line: On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 07:15:27AM -0800, J.D. Giorgis wrote: the thunder run also was intended to topple or crush a statue of Hussein believed to be at an intersection in the center of the city. But last-minute intelligence indicated

Re: It Works!

2003-04-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:55 AM 4/2/03 -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: A big thank you to all of you who helped me with my computer problems over the past two weeks. I replaced the power supply at CompUSA, and everything at long last seems to be working! The only interesting note is that I decided to buy a high-end

Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator

2003-04-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:49 AM 4/2/03 -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious serious I have been praying for the people on both sides since before the shooting

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 16:44, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. That sounds like your religion. LOL! I don't

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't need to match the USA 1:1 for GDP either...just production where it counts (military, etc.) - they'll be prefectly willing to sacrifice civilian standards of life for tactical advantage. They'll be perfectly willing to TRY.

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 11:17, Damon wrote: You should have also mentioned that it failed to stop despite repeated efforts on the part of the soldiers to do so. With the new proclivity of Iraq to use suicide bombers, I think their actions were justifiable, if regrettable. Absoloutely, utterly,

Re: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 17:29, William T Goodall wrote: On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 10:58 pm, J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 15:20 01-04-03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: Ouch! Why is it so much slower? ADSL near me is very competitive with cable internet speeds, and often considered superior.

Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 12:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious Reminds me of the line from Fiddler On The Roof: Villager: Rabbi, is

Re: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Reggie Bautista
JDG posted: The reason the Americans are so successful at war is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis.---German general (can't remember the name of the guy. Might have been Guderian or Rommel). Americans are so hard to fight because they do not know their

Re: Plastics

2003-04-02 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn! wrote: Is anyone really in favor of having mice giving birth inside of their food packages? I thought one of the major reasons for packaging food in plastic was to keep vermin such as mice _out_ of the food . . . I replied: The worry is probably that plastic that is discarded after use is

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-02 Thread Damon
On a side note I absolutely agreed with his assessment of the Stryker. Going with a primarily light but air-transportable force is a recipe for disaster. Better (like he said) to form a few brigades or a division equipped with these things. And while we're at it re-launch the M8 AGS, something

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread freewire1
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:32:11 -0600, The Fool wrote: http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html Two leading evangelical Christian missionary organizations said Tuesday that they have teams of workers poised to enter Iraq to address the physical and spiritual needs of a large Muslim

Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator

2003-04-02 Thread TomFODW
On that note, that should be really religious _Christians_. Judaism has never had any kind of principle for turn the other cheek. It's more an eye for an eye. Except the rabbinical commentators always stated that the law didn't *really* demand such strict retribution. I'm not a Torah or

Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator On that note, that should be really religious _Christians_. Judaism has never had any kind of principle

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:15 01-04-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: As such, by not launching the war now, if you were George Bush, would you be prepared to bear the following costs of waiting until September to let a dictator whom we know with certainty will try and succeed at hiding *something* from inspectors

Re: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:29 02-04-03 +0100, William Goodall wrote: It's the money, really. The 256/64 Kb package is considerably cheaper than cable, and other packages (512/256 and better) are all more expensive than cable. Cable costs EUR 49.95 per month, which I find to be a bit (too) much for what I use

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 07:36 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Apr 2003 at 16:44, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:55 02-04-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I think you should stick to attacking arguments and not the poster. And I think your husband could, perhaps, strive harder to avoid giving the impression that he wouldn't particularly regret

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 22:05, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 07:36 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Apr 2003 at 16:44, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Reggie Bautista
JDG wrote: -Leaving 1 in every 1,000 Americans away from their families, loved ones, and jobs for an extended period of time. Jeroen replied: Away from their jobs? The US doesn't have the draft, so for all those soldiers being a soldier *is* their job. Therefore they are not kept away from

Al-Jazeera more popular than Sex (in search engines)

2003-04-02 Thread Reggie Bautista
From http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/04/02/al.jazeera.web.ap/index.html or http://makeashorterlink.com/?I11421114 The Web portal Lycos reported that Al-Jazeera and variant spellings became its top search term last week, with three times more searches than sex. [snip]

Re: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 22:43, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 07:36 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Apr 2003 at 17:29, William T Goodall wrote: I pay (about) €36 (£24.99) per month for 512/256 ADSL at 50:1 contention. I haven't noticed any issues with contention

Re: It Works!

2003-04-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
If you mean that you only have two-prong (ungrounded) outlets, then the surge protector really isn't protecting anything, as it is designed to divert the excess current into the third (ground) wire. If you are using one of those adapters to fit a 3-wire cord into a two-wire outlet, you need

Re: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 09:58 pm, J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 17:29 02-04-03 +0100, William Goodall wrote: I pay (about) 36 (24.99) per month for 512/256 ADSL Over here that would cost EUR 50 to 55 per month. at 50:1 contention. At 50:1 WHAT? I'm not familiar with that term; please

RE: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:29 02-04-03 +0200, I wrote: Can't compare ADSL vs. cable speed, BTW -- Chello doesn't provide information about their connection speed. But hey, if the ADSL package I got turns out to be too slow, I can always upgrade. Ahh, that's right - ADSL services around me also offer different

Re: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Damon
Or attacking in 180 degrees the wrong direction. Saddam could have waited. The people who are killing Americans, waging jihad against our civilization and corrupting our leaders live in Riyadh. Absolutely. But if we were to take some action against SA, compared to the reaction the US is

RE: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 01:43 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . . Many of the soldiers who are now in Iraq or preparing to go are not full-time members of

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread d.brin
China turning expansionist should have no effect. China will definitely not be able to conquer the Republic of Korea nor Japan nor India nor Taiwan Utter silliness. Old fashioned conquest is the simpleminded scenario that one WOULD imagine, if one felt compelled to imagine the foe being

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:43 02-04-03 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: Or, since you work for the Dutch department of defense, if they have reserves who are subject to callup, perhaps you know some of those reserve members who have been called up in the past and you could ask them. So far it has never been necessary

Re: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me remind you that in 1991 this same team stopped our army 24 hours from eliminating the problem altogether freeing the same Iraqi people we are now supposed to be rescuing. The difference between now and WWII is that such people would not be

Re: RE: I hate inches! :-(

2003-04-02 Thread Reggie Bautista
Klaus wrote: I wonder...if one does reply to one of these all natural enlargement ads on the internet, what do you get for your money? Perhaps just a DD rule book and a letter telling you Now you've got 15 feet? ;-) I like it... enlargement by redefinition :-) That reminds me of a Woody Allen

RE: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, good thing such things like, oh, the UN, weapon treaties, the Geneva Convention don't involve the word of the United States! The word of the United States is worth something, as various countries have found out over the past two

Re: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:27 PM Subject: RE: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans -Original Message- From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: RE: I hate inches! :-(

2003-04-02 Thread Damon
Reggie Bautista No Measuring Tape Available Maru For which we are glad... :P Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: Ace's BRDM-1

RE: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 02:32 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans --- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, good thing such things like, oh, the UN,

RE: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 02:42 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans - Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion

RE: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did the US violate the Geneva convention? Camp X-Ray? Which holds unlawful combatants who are _explicitly_ denied the protections of POWs by those same conventions. What UN Security Council Resolution is the US not merely

RE: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans

2003-04-02 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 02:43 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Brin: David Frum on the War Plans --- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did the US violate the Geneva convention?

Why I'm pissed off right now

2003-04-02 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
My home was shot last night. Not once. Three times. And my car. And.. my FUCKING CAT was killed. Why? You tell me. Three bullet holes, one in each Bring Our Soldiers Home sign. One bullet hole in my car, right through the No Iraq War sign. The cat? strangled with a red, white, and blue

Re: Why I'm pissed off right now

2003-04-02 Thread Reggie Bautista
Condolences on your loss. I don't know what I'd do if something like that happened to our cat or any of our other animals. Reggie Bautista _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*

Re: Why I'm pissed off right now

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: Why I'm pissed off right now My home was shot last night. Not once. Three times. And my car. And.. my FUCKING CAT was killed. Why? You tell me. Three

Brin-L Chat Reminder

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Sloan II
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started three holurs ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page

RE: Why I'm pissed off right now

2003-04-02 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 03:06 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Why I'm pissed off right now - Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Why I'm pissed off right now

2003-04-02 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 02:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why I'm pissed off right now Condolences on your loss. I don't know what I'd do if something like that happened to our cat or any

Re: Why I'm pissed off right now

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Condolences on your loss. I don't know what I'd do if something like that happened to our cat or any of our other animals. Reggie Bautista I'd definitely raise holy hell with the police to _make sure_ that the people who did it got serious

Re: Why I'm pissed off right now

2003-04-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/2/2003 4:08:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cop: Leads? Sure.. sure, we got leads.. we got so many leads, they got us working in shifts! They basically shrugged. The military looking guy (who was FAR more interested in examining the

RE: Why I'm pissed off right now

2003-04-02 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Miller, Jeffrey Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why I'm pissed off right now My home was shot last night. Not once. Three times. And my car. And.. my

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