Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread Matt Grimaldi
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use it in the SOU. You don't insult the british by not using the information. But by the way why is it as is usual? It would seem to me in something this important the british could share their specific information. I would suspect that more often

Re: Irregulars question: Milky Way

2003-08-02 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:45 AM 8/2/03 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: However, there's at least one spiral galaxy which apparently rotates backwards: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2002/release_2002_33.html Must be in the Southern

Re: [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 03:00 am, Deborah Harrell wrote: I have heard the name of Noam Chomsky - um, I thought he was a poet... Anyone who has studied either linguistics or computer science has definitely come across Chomsky. As for his political writings - geniuses are often strange

Re: NYT: Weapons of Mass Confusion

2003-08-02 Thread Ray Ludenia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This speculation raises several questions in my mind: if Saddam destroyed his nukes - WHY DIDN'T HE TELL US??? That's what we wanted, after all, what we were demanding, the ostensible reason for the invasion. Why do what he was supposed to but not gain any benefit

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective list-subscribers

2003-08-02 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote: Ray Ludenia wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Wouldn't you have a chip on your shoulder after a while as well? You know, having a chip on your shoulder doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. Actually, having a chip on both shoulders is better. It keeps one

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective list-subscribers

2003-08-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:21 PM 8/2/2003 +1000, you wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: Ray Ludenia wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Wouldn't you have a chip on your shoulder after a while as well? You know, having a chip on your shoulder doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. Actually, having a chip on both

RE: My exciting day!

2003-08-02 Thread Horn, John
From: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yikes! I'm glad everything went well. How did you first discover the granuloma? At first, I had a symptom where it felt like there was something in my throat all the time. My doctor, unfortunately, misdiagnosed it and thought it was

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:25 PM 7/22/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which of course is what this all about.So many Democrats turned a blind eye to Clinton's perjury But this is where you are precisely wrong John. No democrat defended Clinton this. Not one said he was right Au contraire a great

Re: Intent and language

2003-08-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Intent and language On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 05:21:49PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: I have gone over your posts to make sure my memory

Re: Intent and language

2003-08-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 12:17:24PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: You mean did I miss the fact that you were playing the look at me, I'm so clever, I'm mocking someone with their own words game? What happened to I'll be happy to assume good intentions? No, I just considered that of secondary

Re: Intent and language

2003-08-02 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: ORIFLAMME. ORIFLAMME? OK, I know that my mind is being dissolved by so many hormones and so many other things to think about (such as pending lactation), but I can't figure this one out even with some effort. Julia ___

Re: Intent and language

2003-08-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Intent and language Dan Minette wrote: ORIFLAMME. ORIFLAMME? OK, I know that my mind is being dissolved by so many

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-02 Thread David Hobby
Gautam Mukunda wrote: ... Katha Pollitt, among many other things, famously forbade her daughter from flying an American flag after September 11th because it was a symbol of, IIRC, jingoism and hate. If that _doesn't_ bother you, then it explains why the left has no traction in the United

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John D. Giorgis Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:46 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words At 09:25 PM 7/22/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which of course is what this all about.So

RE: Intent and language

2003-08-02 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julia Thompson Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:58 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Intent and language Dan Minette wrote: ORIFLAMME. ORIFLAMME? OK, I know that my mind is being dissolved by so many hormones

Clinton's Perjury *Again* RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:34 PM 8/2/2003 -0400 Jon Gabriel wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John D. Giorgis Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:46 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words At 09:25 PM 7/22/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Clinton's Perjury *Again* RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread David Hobby
John D. Giorgis wrote: ... Bob Z. said that no Democrat defended Clinton on this. In my mind, Bob Z.'s claim is patently absurd. Many Democrats did argue that any man would lie about adultery, and the only possible reason for making such a claim was to attempt to mitigate the charges

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hobby Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 3:52 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words Which of course is what this all about.So many Democrats turned a blind eye to Clinton's perjury

Re: Clinton's Perjury *Again* RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread TomFODW
What democrats said that it was acceptable for Clinton to lie under oath? I don't know what other Democrats may have said. I never said it was acceptable for him to lie under oath. I just didn't think it was an impeachable offense. I also think he should never have been forced to face

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then the President used information that ultimately came from French Intelligence, a country which his own administration has all but accused of having a conflict of interest wrt Iraq? This sounds worse than before. -- Matt No, he used

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words --- Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then the President used information that

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where have you been? Everybody uses symbols differently, of course. But I saw many flying the flag who seemed to do so out of some mix of patriotism, jingoism and hate. (Anyway, they would say things like Kill all Arabs!) When others

Over the pond next week

2003-08-02 Thread Dan Minette
I'm going to Scotland tomorrow to see my son, Ted, in Shogun MacBeth at the Churchhill theater in Edinburg. I'll be staying with friends who live north of Aberdeen. One of the side benefits of Teri being on leave with Continental. Dan M. ___

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How likely is it that the French deliberately set Bush ? Dan M. Ah, now _there_ you have the billion dollar question. I'm suspicious enough of the French to say it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. I frankly don't think that the French

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-02 Thread TomFODW
    So her rhetoric is over-the-top, but her basic position doesn't seem too far out. The prosecution rests. Huh? What does that mean? How does what he said prove the case? It seems to me the opposite. She has been put forward as an example of an extremist whom liberals should

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-02 Thread Horn, John
From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm 1115 behind :) I don't know whether to admit defeat or not... It's not as bad as another list where I am 41359 behind... I think it's time to quit that particular list! Sheesh, and I thought 200 behind was bad... - jmh

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-02 Thread Horn, John
From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Loo-tin-at Ker-nal. Ah, heck. I can't spell Lt either. One of those words that I've never been able to get down. Kinda like caffeine, vacuum and torture. (Spell check caught those!) - jmh ___

Re: Harry Potter 5 (spoilers)

2003-08-02 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Spoiler warning! . . . . . . . . . Reggie Bautista wrote: David Hobby wrote: I kept hoping that Harry's anger would be partially explained as psychic overflow from Voldermort. I guess that it still could be, but the evidence so far points to Harry being a rather large

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-02 Thread David Hobby
Gautam Mukunda wrote: ... When others have contaminated a symbol with things one does not believe in, one reasonable response is to avoid using the symbol. (Another is to attempt to reclaim it, but either should be fair.) So her rhetoric is over-the-top, but her basic

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:33 PM 8/2/03 -0500, Horn, John wrote: From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Loo-tin-at Ker-nal. Ah, heck. I can't spell Lt either. Unlike the old joke about engineer, I never learned how to spell it correctly despite being one. One of those words that I've never been able to

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread Kanandarqu
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 08:06:22PM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:18:22 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote: But that seems to be _your_ argument. If we understand why they are angry at us and seek to act in such a way as to assuage

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:28:49PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 08:06:22PM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:18:22 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote: But that seems to be _your_ argument. If we

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This argument has many flaws, but the most important one is that I do not have any clear idea of who Katha Pollit is, and might well have misspelled her name repeatedly. : ) I was responding to YOUR examples of her extremism. She might

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? What does that mean? How does what he said prove the case? It seems to me the opposite. She has been put forward as an example of an extremist whom liberals should denounce. But the examples given make her seem somewhat less extreme to me than, say, a