Hey guys,
What is everybody using for halyard bags for the lines next to the companionway
and also sheet bags for the genoa sheets. Anybody have suggestions? Pictures?
Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34RThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the
costs
I have two forestays with furlers, with the inner mounted about 18" lower
on the mast (and about 24" aft on the deck). Neither have restrainers that
I can see, and I only have wrapping issues if I forget to put a bit of
tension on the halyard before unfurling. With too much tension, the furler
may
Wish i could swat that damned invisible tiny virus
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> Off topic, but I hate the phrase “killing two birds with one stone”. Who
> wants to kill birds with stones, let alone two at once? Horrible thought.
>
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> *Cc:* Graham Collins
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Halyard problem
>
>
>
> No restrainer, no problem. Harken furler, I replaced a broken Hood furler
> the previous owner had, no evidence there's ever been a restrainer on the
> mast.
>
&
ve my problem without adding a restrainer.
>
>
>
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> Francois emailed me off list
In french we say "faire d'une pierre deux coups" which translates to "getting
two hits with one shot"
Can mean many things...Or nothing
SylvainC
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wrote:
Off topic, but I hate the phrase “killing two birds with one
Off topic, but I hate the phrase “killing two birds with one stone”. Who wants
to kill birds with stones, let alone two at once? Horrible thought. We can
have a contest to come up with alternatives. Mine is: “kill two mosquitos
with one swat”. Absolutely no guilt. Dave
S/V Aries
1990 C
on the tack is actually easier to
attach to the drum fitting than the sail itself. As such, I killed two birds
with one stone.
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improvement overall. The next
sail will be better measured.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA
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Hi, I installed my restrainer same time I installed my Harken Mark IV furler,
according to documentation I needed one and it was my feeling as well ( looking
at the angle I had on my 27 ).This is what Haren had to say about it :
To be used if angle between halyard and headstay is less than 7°.
I do not have a halyard restrainer but I do need one. It is in my chart table
waiting to be put on. Having said that I generally do not use my roller furler
as I primarily race the my boat.
FYI, Harken recommends the following to prevent halyard wrap:
1. Halyard swivel should be within
Hi Divid,
You've had the boat a while and the restrainer was probably suggested by the
sailmaker and the sails cut to reflect that, so removing it may cause new
problems.
Is the halyard chafe new? When did it start? I would look for something that
has changed recently. Has the restrainer
David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com> >
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Francois emailed me off list to say that with the same rig, he has no halyard
restrainer and has never had a problem with halyard wrap. So I am considering
removing the restraine
Phantom1995 C 36 XL/kcb
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Francois emailed me off list to say that with the same rig, he has no halyard
restrainer and has
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No restrainer, no probl
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No restrainer, no problem. Harken furler, I replaced a broken Hood furler the
previous owner had, no evidence there's ever been a restrainer on the mast.
Graham
No restrainer, no problem. Harken furler, I replaced a broken Hood
furler the previous owner had, no evidence there's ever been a
restrainer on the mast.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
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On 2020-04-09 11:43 a.m., David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
Francois emailed me off list to say
Francois emailed me off list to say that with the same rig, he has no halyard
restrainer and has never had a problem with halyard wrap. So I am considering
removing the restrainer. This is surely to some extent rig specific, but I am
wondering
1. how many people have them and how many
for years without problems.
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C 36 XL/kcb
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Hi Josh, Thanks for sharing the picture. Now I
Glad to help!
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 20:12 CHARLES SCHEAFFER wrote:
> Hi Josh,
> Thanks for sharing the picture. Now I know I can mount my Harken
> restrainer properly onto the mast and not worry so much about having room
> for the headstay/furler.
>
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R,
Hi Josh,
Thanks for sharing the picture. Now I know I can mount my Harken restrainer
properly onto the mast and not worry so much about having room for the
headstay/furler.
Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena, Md
> On April 7, 2020 at 6:59 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> wrote:
I have the same piece. I think it acts as a chafe guard and fairlead to
prevent the spin halyards from having added friction on the sheave box
since it is not unusual for spin takedowns to be more up wind or broad wind.
Are you getting halyard wear 7 or so inches from the shackle? From the
Hi Dave,
Looking at your pictures, I agree that something is scoring the original
Offshore Spars SS cage. Probably not a soft halyard, but a harder SS Schackle.
My boat, Hull #2 has the very same cage and no chafing.
Your pictures don't show it in it's proper place. I question if the cage
The filing you see was done last week by me with a flap disk wheel when I had
things apart to try to minimize the problem. I could try to grind it further,
but then it occurred to me that since I use the spinnaker rarely, the whole
thing might be an unnecessary part (solves one problem and
; progressively finer until it is smooth.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Erie PA
>
>
>
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I think I have found the source of the wear on my genoa halyard and I believe
it is the stainless steel piece that all three halyards run through. The genoa
halyard sits against
work guys!
Richard
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
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I
37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
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That entire stainless steel assembly is there to try to prevent wear on
port and starboard spinnaker halyards, where they exit the mast. We have
essentially the same assembly on our mast, on our 37/40. On ours the Genoa
halyard does not rub on the bottom plate, it does't touch it at the bottom
I think I have found the source of the wear on my genoa halyard and I believe
it is the stainless steel piece that all three halyards run through. The genoa
halyard sits against the bottom edge of that plate where I can imagine it
sawing back and forth. You can see it in these photos:
Sounds like you're missing the top foil trim cap. If it's a Mark III the
part is Harken 870.
http://www.apsltd.com/unit-1-top-foil-trim-cap.html
These trim caps only last so long. I'd suggest all listers with Harken
MKIII furlers inspect their systems to see if they are missing the cap.
I
Was wondering if any others have had this issue and how you resolved it.
Last evening and again 2 weeks earlier on spinnaker takedown after jib up the
spinnaker halyard got stuck inside the luff track on the aluminum foil. It was
from the top and extended down at least 10 feet each time. The
ehalf of schiller
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> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Halyard Knot - was Shackle for Genoa Sheets?
>
> Mike,
>
> Here is a good visual link to several useful knots. In
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Mike,
Here is a good visual
for the Double Braid eye Splice. I would like to give it a go.
Thanks again.
John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
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Mike,
Here is a good visual link to several useful knots. In all my years of
sailing (and tying loads while working in a lumber yard) I had not
discovered the halyard knot.
https://www.animatedknots.com/indexboating.php
Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On
https://www.animatedknots.com/halyard/index.php
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> Hi Neil
>
>
>
> Can you send a link to where I can see how to tie “Halyard Knot”? I would
> like to use that instead of bowline on my jib halyard
>
>
>
> Mike
Hi Neil
Can you send a link to where I can see how to tie “Halyard Knot”? I would like
to use that instead of bowline on my jib halyard
Mike
Persistence
Halifax
No snow here … yet!
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> Subject: Stus-List Halyard Restrainer on a 35 footer
>
> Hi Guys,
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>
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Subject: Stus-List Halyard Restrainer on a 35 footer
Hi Guys,
I've got a 35 footer and want to add a halyard restrainer to my mast and have a
synthetic halyard that is stripped, and see two choices.
I see a Schaefer SS fairlead and a Harken Sheave. The fairlead is cheaper
While I have the mast out, I'm doing this myself so looking for advice on which
restrainer to buy.
> On July 15, 2018 at 6:19 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Depending on your rigger, it might be easier and less expensive to have
> him add a low profile ‘bale’ or mast
Depending on your rigger, it might be easier and less expensive to have him add
a low profile ‘bale’ or mast mounted small block to provide what you need.
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Hi Guys,
I've
My buddy and I install roller furlers. Go with the Harken.
Dennis C.
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
>
> I've got a 35 footer and want to add a halyard restrainer to my mast and
> have a synthetic halyard that is stripped, and see two choices.
>
>
>
>
Hi Guys,
I've got a 35 footer and want to add a halyard restrainer to my mast and have a
synthetic halyard that is stripped, and see two choices.
I see a Schaefer SS fairlead and a Harken Sheave. The fairlead is cheaper and
has a smaller profile. The Harken product is bulkier but
Hey,
What does 'set it and forget it' mean?
No offense, but if you sail in 5 kts of wind and also in 20 kts of wind you
really should be adjusting halyard tension (even on a boat with roller
furling).
In low wind you want the halyard 'soft' so the sail has more draft and
generates more power.
For those who want to know everything about knots and splices, here's a
series of tests done by Evans Starzinger with help from the rope companies
and other interested people:
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/154025-ropeknotsplice-load-testing/
Fascinating stuff, but there are
Brian
In my case I am using 3/8” New England VPC and the knot in attaching to snap
shackles for spin, and two genoas. And attached to a locking pin shackle for
the main.
They all lead back to the cabin top to
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Cc: "Marek Dziedzic" <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
Date: Friday, February 2, 2018, 6:33 AM
Can’t
Here's a good article with a wee bowline
mentioned, from the professor himself, Mr. Brion Toss.
http://www.briontoss.com/education/archive/miscsept02.htm
Also, beware of the difference between a
reduction of strength by X5 vs.retention of
strength... no big deal if it's 50% but a value
of 60%
Can’t speak for the confined space rescuers, but the climbers switched from the
bowline to the figure eight, mainly, because the bowline CAN untie by itself
under certain situations.
Generally, the bowline is frowned upon in the life safety situations.
However, when I was learning to climb (a
kef>
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Subject:
See the attached Practical Sailor article to make a value based decision on
the type of line you use. I have gone to all rope halyards in 3/8" size.
I love Yale Crystaline. It is awesome to work with, super strong, ultra
low stretch, light weight, extremely weather resistant, and it even
floats.
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Subject: Stus-List Halyard replacement to Dyneema or similar
Greetings...just 14 weeks till launch 2017! I could not find listers'
advice/experience about changing SIZE of h
Chuck,
Full disclosure: I work for a rope company, Novabraid. 3/8" halyards with a
blended UHMWPE core will be plenty strong enough. No question. And Samson MLX
is an awesome product and very similar in design to our Argus rope (although we
use Spectra rather than Dyneema in the core blend).
Greetings...just 14 weeks till launch 2017! I could not find listers'
advice/experience about changing SIZE of halyard line from current
wire/rope to Dyneema blend (looking at 3/8 Samson MLX). The halyard
sheaves appear to have enough width to handle 3/8 line; and understand the
sheaves need to
FYI - was able to re-bush my masthead halyard sheaves with bronze bushings from
a local bearing supplier. $6. Heat in the bbq, press out, heat again, press
in new, greased bushings. Trim flush, deburr.good as new.
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Ours came with the Lewmar D1 or D2's. They work well.
I don't have any particular procedure and there's a very slight difference
in lever pressure opening / closing them at full load or no load at all and
it's very easy regardless. Assuming the correct size line for the job (I
replaced a few)
That's one thing that wasn't mentioned. The Lewmars release under load.
Many of the cam type rope clutches need help.
I'm fairly picky about brands in several areas. If I I had to rate my two
highest hardware recommendations, they would be Lewmar rope clutches and
Harken travelers.
Dennis C.
Hey Brent,
There must be something else wrong with the plastic in your stopper levers, it
never gets that hot in Manitoba! Oh wait, I know what it is, overspray from the
mosquito repellant you need to wear all summer must be breaking down the
plastic.
Brad (former Manitobean)
1985 CC 33 Pulse
Brad,
Perception had Schaffer stoppers on her when we got her (85 CC 33-II K/CB).
They were chewing the new running rigging very quickly - at the recommendation
of our sailmaker we replaced them with lewmars.
The lewmars need to be sized right for your lines, they have smaller ranges
than
after exchanging photos with another lister, it appears that my clutches are
spinlok XA's and should handle the 3/8 line adequately. It looks like there are
parts available should I need to rebuild.
This list is INVALUABLE for us new CC owners, thank you all.
Brad
1985 CC 33 Pulse
Sarnia, ON
Brad,
The clutches on my boat (33mkII 1987) are Easylock i think, the model that kind
of look like a lewmar, with long levers of different colours... they do work
with a 3/8 Line but tend to slip a little with main and jib halyards. it might
be wear, but this up grade is on the list. i will go
34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 12:21:44 PM
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I believe most
Bruno, take a look at the lewmar D2 clutches before you make a final
decision. They have a unique series of plates which the rope runs through
perpendicular. The clutch handle tilts the plates to pinch the rope.
Something to consider.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mar
I believe most of the stoppers installed in that vintage were Easy Locks. They
are OK. Years of sunshine have likely weakened the levers. That mixed with the
irritating operational requirement of never stopping a static line (I has to be
moving through the stopper as its closing or it jams so
Big ditto on Lewmars. I have had two Lewmar triples on Touché for nearly 15
years. No slippage. No damage to the lines.
IMHO Lewmar clutches are the BEST!
Dennis C.
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On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List
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Brad,
BTW, I have a double Lewmar clutch rated for 12mm line in the cellar somewhere.
I used it for a year on Mojito before swapping lines and clutch to the 10mm
size.
Tim
Mojito
CC 35-3
Branford, CT
On Mar 22, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List
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I
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I believe most of the stoppers installed in that vintage were Easy Locks.
They are OK. Years of sunshine have likely weakened the levers. That mixed
with the irritating operational requirement of never stopping a static line
(I has to be moving through
You Guys have some strong comments about the Lewmar D2. I was skeptical because
of one comment i had from a rigger that i respect a lot, even if he does not
have a CC, but a first 42 is a pretty nice boat too. He was a Lewmar winch fan
but a Spinlock clutches lover saying there is no point to
My 1989 37+ has lewmar triples. The design hasn't changed much so find a
picture on google and see if you can remember well enough what yours look
like. Mine have no trouble with 5/16ths up to 1/2 inch.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
Solomons, MD
On Mar 21, 2015 9:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price
on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard
clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted
outboard of the original triples, either side of the
Subject: Stus-List Halyard guide
I have seen pictures of numbered and marked strips attached to the cabin top
underneath where halyards etc. run so that you can use the guide relative to
a mark on the halyard to set the height/tension. Does anyone know a source
of those strips or an easy way
AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Halyard guide
APS (annapolis performance sailing) sells them right behind the register!
Defender must have them too.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:34 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I have seen pictures of numbered
I have seen pictures of numbered and marked strips attached to the cabin top
underneath where halyards etc. run so that you can use the guide relative to a
mark on the halyard to set the height/tension. Does anyone know a source of
those strips or an easy way to create them? Thanks- Dave
APS (annapolis performance sailing) sells them right behind the register!
Defender must have them too.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
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cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I have seen pictures of numbered and marked strips attached to the cabin
top
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I must replace my main halyard due to improper winter storage, I guess by
me, and significant chafing.
Interested in recommendations for type and vendor. Do use UK Kevlar tape
I must replace my main halyard due to improper winter storage, I guess by me,
and significant chafing.
Interested in recommendations for type and vendor. Do use UK Kevlar tape drive
main for racing.
Bill Walker
C n C 36
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Subject: Stus-List Halyard
I must replace my main halyard due to improper winter storage, I guess by me,
and significant chafing.
Interested in recommendations for type
, May 3, 2014 3:42:48 PM
*Subject: *Stus-List Halyard
I must replace my main halyard due to improper winter storage, I guess by
me, and significant chafing.
Interested in recommendations for type and vendor. Do use UK Kevlar tape
drive main for racing.
Bill Walker
C n C 36
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Subject: Stus-List Halyard Tension
Reading the tread about halyards, and an earlier post about furlers
reminded me to ask a question of you racers out there: -
I don't race - only because there's no-one racing on our lake
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Subject: Stus-List Halyard
Tension
Reading the tread about halyards, and an
earlier post about furlers reminded me to ask a question of you racers out
there: -
I don’t race - only because there’s no-one
racing on our lake
Reading the tread about halyards, and an earlier post about furlers reminded me
to ask a question of you racers out there: -
I don’t race - only because there’s no-one racing on our lake. Although I have
done a couple of Swiftsures.
But I like passing boats and hate it when boats pass me!
My
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