while you still can
and start over...
db
Gail Miller wrote:
HI again ...
My son is STILL trying to reformat his HDD and delete the partitions.
Can you explain how to do that? How to delete the partitions that is.
He's running Windows 7. Would the Ultimate Boot Disk be a good thing
I think the old BIOS is deleted from memory before the new one installs.
db
katan wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:38:36 -0800, db wrote:
If you disconnect the hard drive while you do that it has no place to
hide...
Except in the BIOS. WHat I'm wondering is, if a BIOS virus can
would worry me to no end...
db
Tony B wrote:
We're really beginning to stray here with all this talk of rare BIOS
and boot sector viruses. And now a question about backups.
Disk imaging is the way to go, with some level of compression to save
space. Ghost, Acronis, and many freeware apps will do
That's as good an explanation as I have heard. It makes sense.
Too bad Jobs doesn't have a wife with GUI design skills to give him a
boot in the butt occasionally ... a little personal democracy :)
db
mike wrote:
Well Apple is not a democracy, which is it's greatest strength
If you disconnect the hard drive while you do that it has no place to
hide...
db
Reid Katan wrote:
Quoting Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net:
For BIOS virus download from Dell their updated BIOS and load it.
Have fun.
I'm guessing if you've got a BIOS virus, you can still get
bearable
for most.
But it begs the question ... why not fix the weaknesses? ... which is
where this string started.
db
mike wrote:
I found it annoying to hide the dock myself, although I found it worked just
fine at the bottom. I always made it as small as I could and still see it
and let
Moi aussi!
mike wrote:
Votre arrogance m'étonne même parfois.
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:58 AM, mike wrote:
What is your favorite color? What is your evidence that this is the best
color?
Just like I figured. You
Tom, Betty
What are the advantages you find in putting the Dock/ Taskbar to the left?
db
t.piwowar wrote:
On Dec 21, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Reid Katan wrote:
But Tom and Betty both say the Dock *works better* (not has more
functions, but is more user friendly) on the side. And IIRC, Tom
slamming each other...
Even the adversarial dummies in Congress know to practice etiquette of
interpersonal respect in their interactions and why it's necessary to do it.
Could we all get together on that? Does anyone else feel the way I do?
db
Reid Katan wrote:
Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com
or identity theft. Once its got its hooks into
you... it's very hard to overcome.
Sorry for the bad news. It's unlikely that there is an easy or quick
solution to your problem.
db
Thanks in advance -- again!
Gail
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t.piwowar wrote:
On Dec 19, 2009, at 5:23 PM, db wrote:
That's why I was making my sacrilegious critique of some of Apple's
OS bad points that cause many people unnecessary difficulty. If the
IT literate don't/ can't see the problem, it will never be fixed and
the system remains
intuitive and untroublesome.
But only a few saw any sense in what I was asking / saying... I got a
whole lot of Mac indignation and we're too smart for such / how stupid
are you to be wanting / asking for such.
Not exactly an uplifting conversation for me
db
Reid Katan wrote:
Quoting db db
with new types of quills...
horse and carriage by cars and trucks
sulpha drugs by other antibiotics
At some point a design should and does mature for good reason.
It's exciting (and difficult) when the dev curve is steep but when it
flattens out again, you've got a damned good item.
db
the ones that developed to a mature level. The bad ones are
when they rot sometime thereafter... when citizens stop maintaining them.
??
db
mike wrote:
I don't think it's a good thing, that's where you get things that are
unaccountable like government or windows mobile. Take your pick
bet most everyone has learned that lesson a few times with their
significant other.
If they haven't, they are no doubt living alone..
db
mike wrote:
My point was that part of the problem is that when things get too big they
are unaccountable because they don't have to be. WM was untouched
I thought you originally were in IT when you worked with mainframes?
db
b_s-wilk wrote:
And it's not complicated for you... you have long been an IT who
loves to learn this stuff. The fact that IT people think and expect
everyone else to be like them is the big geek disconnect that the
rest
in a
Computerguys list.
Yes you and I know how to start on most any computer related
issue ...
But do we know what the rest of the world is about and what their
limitations and needs are?
Or is that our prideful ignorance and our limitation?
db
Reid Katan wrote:
Quoting b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es
That is why OS's need to and will eventually get over their
proprietaryness and look and work essentially the same.
db
phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote:
And I suspect it'll be increasingly harder to find people who have
maintained.
Not to mention that patent advantage will have likewise disappeared.
db
.mike wrote:
I suspect this is like anything..why can't they learn both? There are MUCH
larger problems with our eduction system than which OS to learn. I'd much
rather have them at a very young age begin
to specialized for everyone to be an expert of
their universe ... a Renaissance Man.
Specialization requires specialists ... and that makes magic for the
rest of us.
You just get to choose your specialty and your magic.
db
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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I suspect
of truly
great computers ... is shooting itself in the foot by refusing to change
some faults in their design that most all professionals will acknowledge
exist ... and that would cause people to absolutely flock to their
products ... as they have for the iPod and iPhone.
db
mike wrote:
Faulty
in not providing a intuitive and
comprehensive fix for the people who need it... the noobs.
The world won't end because of it... but now nice it would be if they
could make OS X shiny and complete.
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and others should not have to be doing so for things that by now could
easily have been made drop dead simple. We have better things to do
with our limited time.
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or very well any
more. I do by best but that is just the way it is and increasingly will
be for me.
Which is exactly my point... Utilitarian tools should not discriminate
against the inexperienced nor the aging...
Experts don't need intuitive tools ... it's everyone else that does...
db
general acceptance / tie-in, I may have enough reasons to switch my
personal machine to OS X and figure out work-a-rounds but for now... I
just do what works most easily for me... and that's not OS X.
But I do keep my ear out for Dock replacements...
db
b_s-wilk wrote:
OS X dock is not as much help
grok it...
db
mike wrote:
It's like they *tried* to make it as hard as they could.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:10 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
Quark XPress = user hostile.
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superficially display icons for every window running
whether it is maximized or not.
You say he is carping about 'supposed' UI problems..but you and I both know
you don't think OS X is perfect in this catagory, so why continue this myth
that it is?
I'm curious about that too...
db
On Wed
things... not only can they make
the world better... they can both make you money.
Ok, ... I'll get off my soap box...
But I still think it's a good and worthy discussion...
db
tjpa wrote:
On Dec 16, 2009, at 1:49 PM, db wrote:
So I got particular... put down some of my exact observations
will get an overall assessment.
What do you mean?
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Verizon CS was SO BAD when I was with them... and their service SO
expensive.
db
mike wrote:
I'm not sure 'proactive' has the same meaning to you as it does me. It
surely doesn't have any meaning to ATT.
So when you are out of range of Tmobile, you pay nothing extra and get 3g
!
:)
db
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Go Google GO!
db
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
This is what is being rumored at this point.
Stewart
At 12:16 AM 12/15/2009, you wrote:
Is it possible that we could just buy this phone from Google online,
switch the SIM chip from our current carrier and cellular plan into
it and off we go
I agree it seems like Windows just doesn't want to be in the
software business anymore. Increasingly whatever they come up with make
things worse instead of better.
Why should people stay with something they don't even recognize any more
and is increasingly troublesome?
db
Reid Katan
would be useful
improvement in my opinion.
db
Reid Katan wrote:
Quoting db db...@att.net:
b_s-wilk wrote:
The magic and unattached Apple menu make is so much more
difficult to train the uninitiated ... and it causes a number of
complications re: what's running?, RAM depletion and file
to continue otherwise...
Apple would be better off in its own right if they would give a little
now and then when someone else has a better design element...
IMHO,
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Exactly! Well said...
What's not to like about such intuitive and inclusive simplicity of
function?
db
mike wrote:
Vista/7 menus change also depending on what is going on. I don't recall
menus appearing in DOS...but I never used it that much. TBO, I never knew
the ALT key brought up
carriers etc.
Could this be the first break in the US cellular monopoly and eventually
lead us to a cellular situation as in a lot of the rest of the world,
where you buy a phone and a chip and off you go... buying more minutes
as necessary?
db
mike wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091214
Poor server configuration?
How did that play out?
db
tjpa wrote:
On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:53 PM, db wrote:
I hated Network Solutions but have never tried 1 1 that you and
everyone like.
Besides the potential marketing spamming, what do you not like about
GoDaddy Tom?
I agree about Network
of this and why are we still in it?
How does one really fix / correct all this?
Questions, Questions ...
db
is the latter part is the John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when
. (They
even give reduced rates for longer renewals...)
If it were me I would take control of your own domain. To do that
request that you be made the admin contact for the future and that it be
hosted directly by GoDaddy.
db
Marcio wrote:
Thanks to you all. The problem is that my
and
everyone like.
Besides the potential marketing spamming, what do you not like about
GoDaddy Tom?
db
tjpa wrote:
On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:59 PM, db wrote:
If it were me I would take control of your own domain. To do that
request that you be made the admin contact for the future
, for simplicity sake you should probably just keep it where
it is but carefully note how and when to contact them in the future.
db
Marcio wrote:
Many, many thanks... I will try this again carefully to see if I get there. You
know it is the first time I have done this. I am writing papewrs
Now try uninstalling FF and reinstall it and see if there is yet more
improvement.
db
Ranbo wrote:
I uninstalled Zone Alarm Pro (after activating the Windows firewall). So
far, things are better - loading web pages and documents. FF still seems a
little sluggish at times, with IE being
that you don't
have a single failure point.
Unfortunately software ... like everything else in life ... screws up so
now and then.
So you have to deal with it / fix it.
As is apparently the case with this Zone Alarm / Firefox? issue...
db
mike wrote:
Some like to run outgoing firewalls
In my opinion it is a bad idea to be without a software firewall on your
computer.
The possibilities of a successful exploit and the cost of recovery are
too great.
Fly without that net if you want... but don't complain if you hit the
ground hard...
db
db Ranbo wrote:
No, don't have
7 may wake quickly from sleep but I hear that in practical use it is
even slower than Vista to boot... which because of battery life is what
you will be facing regularly with a laptop.
db
mike wrote:
Yeah this one is really odd. The ad campaign with the guy talking about
running 7 on his
but I refuse to
significantly slow down my complex IT work day to do so...
If Apple comes out with a desktop interface alternative to Aqua or even
a Dock alternative, someone please let me know...
db
tjpa wrote:
On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:25 PM, db wrote:
Good Security is provided by layers
support and let them tell you how
to fix it. You might have to go back to the previous version and don't
do updates until they fix the problem.
db
Ranbo wrote:
*Thanks,
I couldn't get Fire Fox to load, so downloaded a new version and it now
seems to be working better (opens links, loads pages
Uninstall the whole virus package you installed, turn windows firewall
back on for some protection and see if that
improves things. If so, google the symptoms related to that software.
Sometimes security packages go wrong...
db
Ellen Rains Harris wrote:
Operating system? Amount of RAM
that I
know video editing wants high end machines.
Try googling your question. Best or recommended computer specs for
video editing.
db
Victor Subervi wrote:
Hi;
I need to build a machine that will enable me to edit video. I've been told
I should have circa 16 gigs of RAM and two graphics
the
rational choices and doing the rational thing.
ps: Not sure rational is the right word to use ... but the problem and
question facing us is still the same...
db
Constance Warner wrote:
Hate to pour gasoline on the fire, but pretty nearly every type of job
can be outsourced, shipped abroad
off GoDaddy's internal mailing lists (It is an
option in GoDaddy's control panel) or, as Tom says, they will pester
you with email re: other products and services they offer.
Hope that helps...
db
Marcio wrote:
Google say is GoDaddy, Goddy said to mr to write to Google. No answer... I am
displayed in WhoIs lookups.
db
Marcio wrote:
Google say is GoDaddy, Goddy said to mr to write to Google. No answer... I am
learning...What should I do to keep the blogg?
Marcio
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Sent: Nov 18, 2009 3:56 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
without going to court.
It was used as an illicit attack vector for taking down a domain/
website or for extorting money from businesses since the out of service
loss of domain/ website and going to court costs so much in terms of
time and money.
db
tjpa wrote:
On Nov 23, 2009, at 3:08 AM, db
Google is your friend see:
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS335US337aq=fsourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=b.exe
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS335US337aq=fsourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=b.exe
db
Robert Carroll wrote:
Update on dead computer -- a HP desktop with Windows XP
process ) ... you may have some Windows OS file corruption.
If you end up doing a wipe and reinstall, read up on boot sector viruses
and take the appropriate measures before reloading.
db
mike wrote:
Try installing in safe mode, running any antispyware you might have in safe
mode...
If all else
don't know your password,
you can reset it using your email address.
Although you say you set your blog up thru Google is sounds like someone
may have done that for you. If so, you may need their help again...
db
Marcio wrote:
But I can´t get in touch with GoDaddy...or when I thought I did
What do you mean?
Jobs is dying or MS stock it going to tank?
db
tjpa wrote:
On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Rev. Stewart A. Marshall wrote:
During a CNBC special in which he appeared with Warren Buffett,
Microsoft's Bill Gates is effusive in his praise for Steve Jobs and
Apple.
Something
Google Picasa Web storage is now about .02 cents / mo / GB.
I wonder if Google is going to get into backup and data storage like
Amazon has? Amazon charges .15 cents / mo / GB for that...
db
John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:06 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz
MS is just plain doing a good job at killing itself period.'
It can't seem to do anything else...
db
mike wrote:
Just how big does a company need to be to be able to treat it's customers
this way and get away with it? There really is nowhere else for these
players to go for the same
1000 mins/ mo. That's about 1/2 hr a day on the cell phone...
db
tjpa wrote:
On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:48 PM, db wrote:
T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000 mins /mo
... use them or lose them.
1000 minutes/month. That would require that I spend around 4 per cent
of my
If they were accurate, some of his critical comments about the Droid
were useful to me.
db
mike wrote:
A lot of what Andy does is tongue in cheek. I've listened to him for quite
some time on macbreak weekly and he is an uber geek on the order of star
wars/ADD/comic book/computer gadget fan
the inexpensive unlimited minutes too...
db
tjpa wrote:
On Nov 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, mike wrote:
Indeed this is a given, but not always with some cell phones. In
several
reviews including the last moto droid one, the poor call quality of the
iPhone was brought up again. This has always been the weakest
there I think.
If T-Mobile is willing to do that to keep customers in the face of the
ATT iPhone surge, why wouldn't they give that to a new customer who
would switch?
db
tjpa wrote:
On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:26 PM, db wrote:
Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has
plan too. That would be $39.
$49 + $39 = $90 which is a lot better than ATT's $130 ... but the ATT
contract is the killer for now.
I will have to wait until Apple sells the iPhone to the other carriers.
Anyone know when that will be?
db
John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5
Yes... I googled around and see that people are selling 3G models ...
some new in the box ... and supposedly unlocked for $300-$400.
How are people unlocking them? Especially the ones that say they are
new shrink wrapped in the box.
db
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
No you buy a used Iphone
What's the difference between unlocking and jailbreak?
And how could they have done that to the phones that are advertised as
such but still in their boxes shrink wrapped?
db
mike wrote:
There is software out there that unlocks and others that jailbreak.
On Nov 7, 2009 7:57 PM, db db
Both the unlocking and jailbreaking are done with software?
What's a tilt?
db
mike wrote:
Unlocking means you can then stick a sim in the phone from another carrier
and it will take it. I had an ATT tilt that they gave me the unlock code
for, put my tmobile sim in and everything worked
what is it?
DB
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
I have an app that allows me to do SMS messages from my desktop.
Quite handy.
Stewart
At 10:15 PM 11/3/2009, you wrote:
What app can do SMS? I can send texts via email, but how can I receive
texts on my iPod? Nobody uses email any more
) is the only cost effective iPhone
plan available here. Someone said they only paid $70 for unlimited
minutes... and I was curious about that.
Are you suggesting to carry a PayGo phone with another number too to
make outgoing calls with?
That seems to defeat the purpose.
db
b_s-wilk
In WA state, unlimited calling and a data plan for an iPhone is $130/ mo.
It's only $70 / mo where you are?
db
That's REALLY expensive. Our Internet and landline and mobile combined
are less than $70, plus my husband's PAYGO is about $50 a year. Nobody
needs to pay $150 a month for one
than Earthlink or ATT give
you POP.
db
Marcio wrote:
Now, here I have an important question: what is the difference between POP and
MAPI... Eudora gives me this choice...
Will love to know.
Many thanks
Marcio
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From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com
Sent: Nov 1, 2009 12:13 AM
Who do you think does a better job of hosting ... yet at a decent price?
db
tjpa wrote:
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:16 AM, db wrote:
But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper than Earthlink or ATT
give you POP.
Note that hosts like GoDaddy are not well managed so find themselves
on blacklists
I know... that is why I was asking for your recommendation.
Who gives the best reasonable hosting service at the least price in your
opinion?
db
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Cost is not the only factor in selecting a Web provider.
Consistency, reliability and trustworthy ness also play
don't fix them now.
Does anyone know what the default ownerships and perms should be for a
2ndary internal SATA drive on a Leopard MacPro?
db
Stephen Brownfield wrote:
tjpa wrote:
On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:57 PM, db wrote:
I recently bought I new primary sata drive for a MacPro and loaded
admin should be re: ownership and perms. I am pretty sure that
Everybody would normally be read only.
Can someone with OS X (prefirably Leopard) do a Get Info on their 2ndary
internal drive for me and tell me how the ownership and permissions are
listed there?
db
tjpa wrote:
On Oct 28, 2009
on OS X Tiger systems which stops your printing and gives fits to
programs like Photoshop etc.
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concocted.
Don't you have a shrink you can consult about your harmful repeated
self-inflicted tech issue?
(I'm saying this with humor and good will but I am serious at the same
time...)
db
Marcio wrote:
Hi folks
Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows
XP Pro
but Lightroom launches easily
* Word painfully slow to launch.
* Disk Warrior won't launch at all from the HD.
db
tjpa wrote:
On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:37 PM, db wrote:
Can anyone recommend the best system test utility can I use to check
these issues before I invest the reload labor?
Check
Can anyone recommend a portable scanner w. software package for scanning
biz cards, trip receipts and OCR'ing the text while on the road?
Neat Receipts is one... has anyone used one?
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we get.
That's why ATT's decision stands out so...
Make me really curious to know what their motivation was
db
At 03:33 PM 10/8/2009, db wrote:
So what's the deal with ATT's decision to allow cellular VOIP?
It's a great thing... should allow minimal cell minutes usage, cheap long
What is a single stream N router ... anybody know?
A single antennae?
db
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
I just bought a refurbed Netgear from Newewgg, 39. Works great.
Stewart
At 12:45 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote:
Was thinking of getting an inexpensive N wifi router for use with
PCs. for use
Doesn't sound like a good feature. That's confusing , I thought N
protocol essentially got its higher throughput via MIMO in the first
place ...
How can you tell from the specs whether an N router is single stream or not?
db
John Settle wrote:
db wrote:
What is a single stream N router
Theoretically the CD/DVD markers have a chemical composition which is
more safe in the long term for putting on plastic.
db
One Man wrote:
Is it really true that one should only write on a cd with a marker labeled
CD/DVD marker? The Sharpie I bought for that purpose doesn't really seem any
or drive USB port also...
db
Tom Piwowar wrote:
On Oct 5, 2009, at 2:00 PM, db wrote:
How can you tell from the specs whether an N router is single stream or not?
Yes, it is very confusing. Single-stream means it is not MIMO. N is
supposed to require MIMO, but vendors got exceptions
Was thinking of getting an inexpensive N wifi router for use with PCs.
for use in an apt.
Was looking at D-Link, Rosewill and Trendnet on NewEgg in the $25 to $35
range.
Anybody have any particular recommendations?
db
don't just combine the two and go with an iPhone?
db
b_s-wilk wrote:
What UMPC's do you recommend Betty?
dan
Since I can't fit one into my budget--just into a pocket--I can make a
wishlist. I like the Panasonic Toughbook U1 for size, but it's heavy.
Something like that would be nice
the Touch's screen keyboard seems a big liability to me. I have big
fingers and find the iPhone's keyboard laborious when I have used one.
Does the Touch have a microphone? If so the voice to text apps that are
popping up could suffice perhaps...
db
mike wrote:
I was going to add, I
What UMPC's do you recommend Betty?
dan
b_s-wilk wrote:
What do you really want/need? An ultra-mobile PC or a small notebook?
*That's a very good question and not really sure of the
difference. Think
a small notebook though. *
*
The original small hand-held PCs with 4 to 7 inch
How and why did they do that?
db
Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote:
Actually, on PC's that update request (or automatic) is a function of how one installed
the Apple app in the first place. (It became VERY evident to those using Palm Pre's when
Apple decided to update software to render
Yes... if it works it is the best surge protector. Their batteries go
bad after a while but they can be replaced online for about $15 or so.
Usually they have a self battery test...
db
Stephen Brownfield wrote:
Can I use an old Back UPS as a surge protector?
Thanks
Steve
the way...
Or you might just bite the bullet and start over with an iPhone or such...
The Palm Pre might be a good solution... It has a large screen,
thumbkeyboard and it can run classic Palm apps via a 3rd party
emulator. Hopefully it would help you port your Palm data to its apps...
db
...
Or unless you want to give Asia another implement to sink us with...
Money we borrow from them is money they will use to control our future
for their benefit.
Get real!
My 3 bits...
db
Jeff Miles wrote:
I find it so disappointing hot short sighted logic and well
meaning people can be.
DB
Can anyone recommend a good secure password and personal info DB that is
sync-able with two (husband and wife) OSX laptops and two (husband and
wife) iPhones?
If all that is not possible then, one laptop and two iPhones would be
acceptable...
Splash ID is only sync-able with one computer
I would appreciate recommendations for an iPhone app. where the text
could perhaps be used in a note, email or SMS perhaps?
Who are the contenders and are they ready for prime time?
thanks in advance,
db
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db
This BS system of corps using us
b_s-wilk wrote:
Energy is only as free as the technology to capture and distribute it.
The advantages in manufacturing are cancelled out by the costs. Are
the corporations that want to use
to borrow much of anything for
anything... no less incredibly expensive manned space flight to moons
and other planets.
With such US manned space flights, I think we're talking about champagne
tastes on a beer budget
db
Eric S. Sande wrote:
Like what? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass
removed from the server by the first access.
I guess that is because no email is actually ever removed from Gmail
unless you do it by deletion?
db
Jennifer Hiebert wrote:
I may misunderstand you, but are you looking for the Gmail recent
mode? See
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl
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