Re: [CGUYS] Spam:Re: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview
Interesting. And, since you are an archivist, how do you store your raw images for future use, say, five, ten years out? Or do you simply discard those on which you have not performed post-production? Sorry, but I'm a big RAW fan. I can do things with RAW images that tiffs jpegs won't do. I liken RAW to Silly Putty: it lets you stretch your exposure in ways other formats can't handle. ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview
Robert, I recommend you read this article by Ken Rockwell - indeed, anyone attempting to use NEF files ought to be aware that Nikon, in all its wisdom, does not have only one universal NEF file format, but several. And older ones are not necessarily readable by newer software. Without getting into the raw vs compressed war here, for simple peace of mind - and good results when done correctly - .jpg (.jpeg) works well in most cases. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm --- On Mon, 4/12/10, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 10:22 PM I want to be able to view the NEF files that are stored on my PC. According to Irfanview, there is a plugin for NEF files (these are similar to RAW files), but I downloaded the plugin executable from the Irfanview web site and, after installing, Windows still does not recognize NEF nor does Irfanview. The list of plugins: http://www.irfanview.com/main_formats.htm My Irfanview version: 4.23 My plugin version: 4.25 Question 1: Where to obtain the plugin for NEF? Question 2: If plugin not available, what free program will let me view NEF files? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview
Should have added that I suspect the impulse toward raw and NEF comes mostly from those of us who came to photography in the film era. We remember that stepping up filmstock quality led to greater adjacency, overall sharpness, evenness of gradation. raw does not answer that quest in digital, especially when using puny DX sensors (let alone the even smaller sensors in point-and-shoots and mobil phones). The real answer for those of us seeking the qualitative result of film is to graduate to FX sensors, or simply to capture in rollfilm or 4x5, or even 35mm, as Ken Rockwell demonstrates convincingly on his website http://www.kenrockwell.com/ . If digital end result is desired, then high-end scanning gets us there; there are several labs that process film with scans. --- On Mon, 4/12/10, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 10:22 PM I want to be able to view the NEF files that are stored on my PC. According to Irfanview, there is a plugin for NEF files (these are similar to RAW files), but I downloaded the plugin executable from the Irfanview web site and, after installing, Windows still does not recognize NEF nor does Irfanview. The list of plugins: http://www.irfanview.com/main_formats.htm My Irfanview version: 4.23 My plugin version: 4.25 Question 1: Where to obtain the plugin for NEF? Question 2: If plugin not available, what free program will let me view NEF files? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview
OK, foolishly, I'll bite. Name one operation applicable only to NEF format in Photoshop, save the labor of converting to a stable .tif or .png or .jpg. NEF is not fixed, but a shifting proprietary Nikon file format that even Nikon doesn't support universally. (The obverse of your Irfanview is quest is, if you have Photoshop, why do you flirt with primitive post-production software?) Lastly, all digital images share the post processing characteristic of film images in darkroom. Snapshot or not. Finishing the image is something photographers have done since the 1820's. But dibble-dabble with archaic file formats in post-production is time lost. If you must have capacious and lossless files, get an FX sensor camera that captures to a universal format, such as .tif. Heavy-up your storage, and clear your calendar. (btw, those juicy iPad images for Apple? 8x10 transparency film; further example of how digital continues sold to the public in advertising via film image) Mr Turk, Ms Wilk, I'd sure like to hear you weigh in... --- Contrary to information posted about RAW, or NEF, not having advantages over jpeg, this is not true if one post-processes a digital image in a photo program such as Adobe Photoshop. (And all digital images except snapshots need post processing.) There are quite a few operations that can be done in Photoshop to the image only if it is in RAW (or similar) format. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
More than partially plausible. The average rate doesn't jibe with my own experience in places such as Poland, for example, which has terrific broadband speed in urban areas, at least as fast as urban experience in the Czech Republic and Slovakia. And what to think of Finland, the most connected country on earth, having a slower rate that GB? Or Germany's rate as slower than that of the US? Average is only the partial story... --- On Sat, 4/3/10, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 1:32 PM On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution. Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your 90 mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all those who live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars
..and look for Hyundais to contribute to other kinds of hits, in short order... the iPad will easily take care of that vexing problem. There are already a number of vehicular mounts for the iPad, and you can bet that more will hit the stores very soon. Steve -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Replacement large format scanner
Craig's List works well for me - and in a broad range of discard --- On Wed, 3/31/10, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Replacement large format scanner To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:14 PM I have been using DC Freecycle to get rid of surplus stuff. So far I have always gotten several takers within 10 minutes of posting and pick up within a few hours. This saves me the trouble of getting rid of the junk and eliminates the unhappiness of discarding something that is still useful. It also makes others happy. On Mar 30, 2010, at 9:34 AM, gerald slawecki wrote: i have a working 13 x 19 heidelberg scanner in the basement that is no longer in service. it is huge and heavy. i have no use for it if someone wants it. wash dc area. i think it is about 10-15 years old. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy
Thanks for this advice, worth a second look... --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 11:32 PM Not too bad. Depends on quality of ink you use. They are not real heavy color like a pro printed CD/DVD. But they have worked for me. The ones that I have that are 5 years old still look like they did the day I printed them. All depends on medium (quality of surface) Ink and image. Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy
That's why I use lightscribe: to make clients happy. When I do the inevitable second pass, registration can be slightly off, and the software is buggy, often quits. A nice idea, but unrealised: should have ability to print on white, instead of that off-putting gold color - or worse; should be able to print a fulsome label in shorter than 21 minutes. Hope an improvement is down the road... I don't like lightscribe except for disks going to clients. Makes them happy. I use Staedtler Lumocolor pens for my disks and print labels for jewel cases instead of burning labels onto disks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy
I've always been told that inkjet images on discs are unstable (moisture the principal problem). You disagree? --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 3:06 PM I don't do lightscribe. I have two Epson printers that will print on CD/DVD's that are printable. (inkjet) Once I burn (I typically print first for large batches) I stick it in the printer, and print within 5 minutes. I have a lightscribe external but never use the lightscribe feature. Inkjet printables are easier and look nicer. By the way HP has a nice CD/DVD printable printer out now. Stewart At 09:48 AM 3/29/2010, you wrote: That's why I use lightscribe: to make clients happy. When I do the inevitable second pass, registration can be slightly off, and the software is buggy, often quits. A nice idea, but unrealised: should have ability to print on white, instead of that off-putting gold color - or worse; should be able to print a fulsome label in shorter than 21 minutes. Hope an improvement is down the road... I don't like lightscribe except for disks going to clients. Makes them happy. I use Staedtler Lumocolor pens for my disks and print labels for jewel cases instead of burning labels onto disks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy
I have no trouble getting an image, but a crisp and dark one takes two burn cycles; there is a registration problem sometimes, cycle to cycle. Plus, optimum image cycle (best) is 21 minutes; 42 minutes to make a good label is a lot of time. The memorex CD has an ok one-cycle burn; memorex DVD, with its different surface, burns very light for one cycle. And a two-cycle burn of DVD label sometimes smears. My burner is laCie, although I believe it actually is a Panasonic. I guess the bottom line is that I like a nice, dark and crisp image; it's a matter of what is acceptable to each of us. Perhaps I should try another brand of disc. --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:46 PM I'm not sure that I can help you. I have never had any trouble labeling lightscribe disks for any brand of DVD. I assume that you have a lightscribe-capable DVD burner. I turn the DVD over in the burner tray, use Nero to make a lightscribe label (in the special lightscribe label section of Nero), click on the lightscribe print button, select best quality, and it begins. It is possible to get a slightly darker label if the disk is burned twice without removing the disk after the first burn, but doing this probably is not needed. You must have the lightscribe label software such as comes with Nero, or whatever software that came with your burner. Trying to make a lightscribe label using regular label software that is intended to print on paper will not work. You could try a different brand of DVD. If the same problem occurs, I would suspect either that your burner is at fault or that you are not using lightscribe software to make the labels. Can't think of anything else. chad evans wyatt wrote: Robert, may I tag along here? I have had some real problems labeling Memorex lightscribe DVD's. Any thoughts? --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:57 PM There are differences in quality with DVDs. Some brands will not play on older DVD players as well as other brands. What this means is that if you are making a lot of DVDs, some brands will have more duds in a box than will other brands. For single-layer DVDs, I recommend the Taiyo Yuden brand. For dual-layer DVDs, Verbatim has done well for me. I usually buy from http://www.meritline.com/ but there are a lot of listings on eBay. rleesimon wrote: I will need to make DVDs from AVI to watch on a typical TV DVD player both in the US Region I and in Belgium Region II where I have a built in DVD Region II player and a stand alone DVD player region free. What disks should I purchase to have the greatest ease of both recording the DVDs and playing them .what I am looking for is DVD-R or DVD+R or DVD-RW or DVD+RW .I will NOT archive with them for the most part, but will watch and re-record, but I may make a few to give to family members who do NOT have a DVD recorder so I will want some record once types for that. Advice? I have IBM DVD recorder and WinDVD creator etc. that came with it.tia! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy
Robert, may I tag along here? I have had some real problems labeling Memorex lightscribe DVD's. Any thoughts? --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] what DVD-R to buy To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:57 PM There are differences in quality with DVDs. Some brands will not play on older DVD players as well as other brands. What this means is that if you are making a lot of DVDs, some brands will have more duds in a box than will other brands. For single-layer DVDs, I recommend the Taiyo Yuden brand. For dual-layer DVDs, Verbatim has done well for me. I usually buy from http://www.meritline.com/ but there are a lot of listings on eBay. rleesimon wrote: I will need to make DVDs from AVI to watch on a typical TV DVD player both in the US Region I and in Belgium Region II where I have a built in DVD Region II player and a stand alone DVD player region free. What disks should I purchase to have the greatest ease of both recording the DVDs and playing them .what I am looking for is DVD-R or DVD+R or DVD-RW or DVD+RW .I will NOT archive with them for the most part, but will watch and re-record, but I may make a few to give to family members who do NOT have a DVD recorder so I will want some record once types for that. Advice? I have IBM DVD recorder and WinDVD creator etc. that came with it.tia! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 21 Mar 2010 to 22 Mar 2010 (#2010-38)
Seems to me that Mike is owed a considered reply on this. --- On Wed, 3/24/10, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 21 Mar 2010 to 22 Mar 2010 (#2010-38) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 2:46 PM On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:35 AM, mike wrote: Tom can say anything he wants about people he doesn't know, his ideology will win out for him every time. Mike is once again completely unresponsive, unable to cogitate a relevant reply of any kind. He sits slack jawed at his computer. A bit of drool splashes off his keyboard. He furrows his brow and grunts Macintosh bad, evil empire good. I can play the link game too... http://pages.ebay.com/buy/guides/hot-wheels-buying-guide/ http://hotwheels.wikia.com/wiki/Hot_Wheels * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] There goes the neighborhood
Well, there goes the franchise. Well, there goes the franchise. We quibble about the strange US fascination for constructing redundant telephone poles for our warring telecoms, the tax on our economic health of anæmic high speed, about the flow of treasure into sands and mountains and out the doors of WalMart, but rd has always been the hole card, the basis of American genius. We will innovate our way forward with green jobs, yadayada. Our final innovations may well have been devilish ways to trade paper for bits of paper and mindless apps for warm little electronic toys. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/business/global/18research.html?nl=technologyemc=techupdateema1 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sue Me Sue You
Sobering insight, Tom. Better to know this, than to jaunt down the road unaware... --- On Wed, 3/10/10, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Sue Me Sue You To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:54 PM On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Michael Fernando wrote: (specially ...er... nice __how__ Sun fended off both Apple and Microsoft.) No nice at all. All these huge companies pretend to sue each other and then settle by swapping patent portfolios. So all of them get access to a huge pool of patents. It is very different for smaller companies trying to break out. They get sued, but have no patents to trade. They are all quickly put out of business. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] All Your Apps Are Belong to Apple
Speaking in support of Mike's sentiment , shouldn't we be looking at the current norm of hack as reason for Apple's conservatism? An open web has proven unsustainable, too many bad actors. We read everywhere accounts of those responsible for highly sensitive data not taking care of that, profits are too tempting. Like Apple's methods or not, they wish to protect their platforms, unlike the wild west habit out there. Hermetically sealed systems approach --- On Wed, 3/10/10, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: From: John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] All Your Apps Are Belong to Apple To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 9:50 PM I wonder if Apple will allow any more federal apps since the agreement was gotten out of NASA with a FOA request. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:31 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:12 PM, mike wrote: A short editorial from EFF about the app situation at Apple. Someone else on the list brought up Apple's new contract with developers believing this would help developers..I don't think so because Apple has been telling developers the rules all along, the problem is Apple keeps moving the goal posts around whenever they feel like it. This reaction to the Apple agreement is naive. I think it was written by a starry-eyed idealist who has not read many contracts. Such terms are not unusual. People sign such agreements because it gives them access to a very lucrative opportunity to make $Millions. They see that Apple is giving away something of great value and not asking for that much in return. You are ignoring Apple's motivation. They want to keep the iPhone a safe place. That is not easy to do. They are insisting on strict terms because they want to keep the bad guys away. Mike would probably have opposed Wyatt Earp's bringing law and order to Tombstone too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] combining PDFs
Betts, I do this constantly with Acrobat, but you appear not to have that, and I salute your rejection. An irritating program (no easy insertion of the international characters essential to my activity, and do not even bring up Illustrator). Tried to find a way to do your task with Preview, guess that's not there. Perhaps time to curse, then bite the bullet... --- On Wed, 3/10/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: [CGUYS] combining PDFs To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 11:21 PM I have 11 1-page pdfs that I'd like to combine into one file. I'm tired. I know I can do this with simple tools, but don't remember which ones. I don't have Adobe Acrobat that runs in OS X. I do have InDesign and a collection of freeware and shareware. [Mac OS X v.10.5.8] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on?
Ditto, Betty - Went to the Mozilla page, no mention of masking. --- On Wed, 3/3/10, John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com Subject: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 3:06 PM Hi, What is the name of that Firefox add-on that enables one to change how the browser identifies itself? Clear skies, John J Settle * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on?
.. et sous le pont d'Avignon, l'on y danse.. Many thanks, John! --- On Wed, 3/3/10, John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 5:58 PM On 3/3/2010 4:16 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: Ditto, Betty - Went to the Mozilla page, no mention of masking. Hi Chad, Found it! Here's a link to User Agent Switcher Add-on https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 -- Sous le ciel tout étoilé John Settle Personal Webpage: Urban Astro Images http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejjs-cts/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability
Exactly, Betty. Why can't they get together? We have propensity to deploy, with faux-entrepreneurial ideal, the same multiple-gauge railroads that bedeviled 19th century US commercial activity; that is our model, until it no longer can be driven forward. We have what? 4, or is it 5 wireless systems here? Each requiring its own tortured buildout (see Mr Sande's bill of particulars). Imagine putting all of that investment into one system. Oh, it's not hard, after all: the rest of the world is GSM, to enormous economic benefit to business and consumers, a commercial leg up the rest of the world now has on us. We don't do multiple voltages, we standardise time (except in Indiana), so why dig up our streets for each new fantasy of telcom autonomy? Well, the highway lobby isn't complaining.. --- On Mon, 2/22/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 12:58 AM Basically yes. If you want a chicken in every pot. Every local switch and tandem switch has to be equipped. Every mile has to be rebuilt. It might be twice my estimate. Or even 6 times as much. After you get done, and the cable companies run their system, then Google comes in behind all of you to run theirs. I don't understand why everybody needs to roll their own fiber. I don't have three sets of power lines coming to my house. Why can't the information providers get together and run one system that they can all share at a fair price? *Before* the Feds regulate that you have to. Sure makes a lot of sense. That's the way they do it in some other countries where service is much cheaper than it is here. Both broadband and mobile service networks can be shared by multiple companies. Electric companies already share networks. Why can't they get together? Why can't they share? Because the Feds didn't regulate that they have to, so they don't. Because even though it will be cheaper in the long run, it's more complicated to cooperate than to go it alone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability
QED --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 3:19 PM Does it really make any sense at all for there to be several mostly identical broadband networks anywhere when all that's needed is one good one? Well, typically and ILEC (incumbent local exchange carrier, e, g. ATT, Qwest, VZ, Frontier, Alltel, CenturyLink, etc.) is only going to build out in its own footprint. That would be areas where the ILEC all ready owns the switched landline network (and the mostly fiber interswitch network). You only see duplication in the case of cable, which overlays everyone's territory, but that's a mostly copper coax network that uses a different service delivery model. There are differences in how individual ILECS implement the fiber distribution network. ATT Uverse is based on a FTTC (fiber to the curb) model, which distributes the fiber to curb-level nodes, which then use existing copper lines for the final mile to the home or business. VZ uses a FTTP (fiber to the premise) model, which requires an individual ONT (optical network terminal) at each served location. This is more expensive initially, but offers greater bandwidth. I'm not sure what Qwest's delivery model is. Anyway, there's little duplication for a given terrritory, except in the case of faciities based CLECs (competitive local exchange carriers). These can be colocators, i. e. they lease CO floor space in an ILEC's CO, but own their own switches and fiber. In that case there is duplication, but not to a significant extent. Or, they can have their own POP (point of presence) in a wholly owned or leased structure separate from the ILEC. When Southwestern Bell bought ATT (and promptly renamed itself ATT) the ATT long distance POPs were all ready colocated in SW Bell COs. When VZ bought MCI, the MCI long distance. POPs were largely in separate structures, due to the historical nature of the Bell System. When VZ bought GTE (GTE was never part of the Bell System), we also bought their ILEC territories. No duplication in most cases. It's a bit more complicated than that when you parse it down to the individual acquistion/resale level, and trust me you don't want me to discuss the leasing let alone the wireless situation. But the net result across the USA has been a fairly low level of network duplication. In sum, the Bell System has been reintegrating since divestiture. If this is clear at all, please let me know. Even I find it hard to keep track of who's on first :-). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What's wrong with Android
No quarrel with this assessment, but I would add one factor: how adaptable is the phone to multiple networks? To use an ancient analogy, place an LP vinyl record on any brand of turntable, it plays. --- On Thu, 2/18/10, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com Subject: [CGUYS] What's wrong with Android To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 2:19 AM This reviewer gets to the heart of the matter. It is not about the specs. It is about how the device functions. http://www.slate.com/id/2244165?obref=obnetwork If you're looking to buy a new smartphone, then, the most important thing to ask isn't What does it do? Instead, it's How does it do it? Phones that seem identical on paper turn out to be wildly different once you turn them on. The most important feature on any phone is one rarely mentioned in a spec list: the operating system. If the OS is clunky and overstuffed, like what you'll find on the BlackBerry, you'll have a devil of a time doing everything on your device. If it's stylish and intuitive, like the iPhone's, you'll find your phone a pleasure. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What's wrong with Android
OK, and I'll ask you to come clean: for you, the horizon is local, and others ought emulate that satisfaction. I hold the US to a higher standard, we fall behind the rest of the world in our panting acquiescence. The reliability of our phone networks - let alone the clarity of audio - is pitiable. Our broadband - isn't. Not sure, but I do believe you've made this point as economic factor in global economy, to which we are now wed - except when scoring parochial points. By the way, stellar engineers such as Jack Towers have pulled unbelievable audio from the sidewalls of 78rpm grooves, so stuff that one. --- On Thu, 2/18/10, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] What's wrong with Android To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 1:51 PM On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:09 AM, chad evans wyatt wrote: No quarrel with this assessment, but I would add one factor: how adaptable is the phone to multiple networks? To use an ancient analogy, place an LP vinyl record on any brand of turntable, it plays. You want to bring them by for a spin on my 78 RMP Victrola? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS]
Don't we all dump inscrutable messages nowadays? What is the kerfuffle? --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Subject: [CGUYS] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 10:41 AM I didn't recognize Jack Hand (the sender) as a poster to the list. I keep everything stored in my Eudora mail client. I find only five postings from him since 2005, and the most recent prior post being on 9/4/2006. He made several postings in 2004, but not a whole lot. Fred Holmes At 09:26 AM 2/15/2010, tjpa wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 7:23 AM, John Emmerling wrote: Is this a first for ComputerGuys-L? Spam is indeed rare around here -- thanks to AOL's filters. Jack has been subscribed since 1999 so I suspect that his PC is pwned. If we get more of this I will put him on moderation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb
Agree with the Nokia comment, and also suggest another obscure place where network reception surpasses by far anything in the US. Worth a thought.. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=walbrzych,+poland,+europe --- On Sat, 2/6/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 1:47 PM Also depends on your phone. If you're not using a Nokia phone, you'll probably find more places with little or no reception. There's no perfect network, and few in the US come close to the amazing coverage I get here, http://is.gd/7Poni, or even here, http://is.gd/7PprD. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb
Brilliant post, Betty. I wonder how many millions sit on the sideline, awaiting an iPhone for the rest of us. I have no quarrel with Apple preserving its control over apps, fine. It will be interesting to see, once the contract with ATT is ended, whether Apple will make its device more universal, allowing exchangeable sim cards. Do that, and the iPhone becomes a monster, rivaling Nokia in its best years. Perhaps the iPad might follow suit, rendering the comparative discussion with other similar platforms moot. But, hey, I'm not holding my breath. Wireless appears to be the new received wisdom. --- On Thu, 2/4/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 1:34 PM The iPhone was a step backwards, missing essential features. While the OS is very user-friendly, its ties to one network are troublesome. I understand that when you unlock a US version iPhone, some important features break, even with ATT. It has limited storage, while other companies realize that limiting storage by the size of a card instead of installed memory is better than wasting a lot of time storing data online where it may not be available at all times, especially when you need it. The iPad is another step backwards because it isn't compatible with other US GSM networks. Apple is making their portable devices more closed than their computers by limiting the applications that can be used on them. Of course, there are over 100,000 iPhone apps, does Apple have to approve each one? Why not simply say 'application source untrusted' instead and let users choose. Do the MacBook Pro notebooks still have USB and FireWire? Lack of FireWire has driven people from MacBooks to the Pro notebooks. Wired transfer is often more reliable than wireless. What's wrong with wires? Is it an aesthetic thing instead of anything to do with operability? Steve Jobs is all about aesthetics over utility--both together will be better. If you have to go to a computer with iTunes to change the data on an iPad, what difference does it make if it's with or without wires? Yes, you can download apps, or upload data [I assume], but ultimately a computer is involved. Is increased use of wireless safe to our health? or our wallets? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] print simple list of albums with artist name without folderol !! ...sheesh!
Related: VLC is seamless in allowing region code free DVD playback. --- On Fri, 2/5/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] print simple list of albums with artist name without folderol !! ...sheesh! To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 11:07 PM I have xphomesp3 and wmp10 and would like to print a simple list of albums and artist name without folderol .sheesh! I put on winter 2003 fun pack which contains media exporter which neatly does it but lists every song and every track and belches forth 114 pages to print .all I want is 1 or 2 page list with album name and artist .is that too much to ask ?? .sonya-henny's-toutou !! .that billgates must be laughin' VLC can export a simple playlist as HTML or XML. iTunes exports a little more detailed playlist, depending on the columns that are visible in that list. You can import the data from audio files into VLC and iTunes without moving or copying the files. Mac or Windows should let you drag and drop the files into the Music library for playlist export or for printing. In the iTunes dialog box you can choose to print any of these: - CD jewel box insert [8 styles] - song list with 4 sorting choices - album list [by album or song name] When you're done and you want to use your original media player, simply sort the main Music Library by date and delete the entries [without deleting the files from your drive]. It's easier than it sounds. I assume that the Windows version of iTunes also has the same choices as my Mac version. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Thanks, Steve, for describing the obvious. Surely, part of the huge popularity of Blackberry is that it fits in the hand so well. Count me among those who do not welcome tiny/tinniness. No greater nightmare than losing a miniscule sim card onto a train floorboard while crossing a frontier. A friend who is inveterate early adopter discarded his miniature Nokia one year; not professional grade, for every reason you cite, especially battery charge, which kept draining while he was on the job. Not great design to require an auto as accessory to keep the battery fresh. --- On Tue, 2/2/10, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 7:26 AM On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Feature sizes decrease in electronics every 1-1.5 years, so more features per given area. Eventually, the format size for a component decreases as well. This has been occurring for decades. This is obvious and I am surprised that people on the list think this is a bad thing. Again, this is true for some, perhaps even most electronic/digital devices, but this trend is not universal nor is it always permanent. Some types of devices that went through a size shrinkage phase reverted to becoming larger again because smallness became a liability as opposed to an asset. Going small in such cases provides a benefit only for the manufacturer, not for the consumer. Hand-held two-way radios are an example that immediately comes to mind. Being made too small did not work well for users. The tiny buttons became hard to deal with, the small speaker rendered voice communications hard to understand, smaller displays were hard to read, they broke when dropped or were handled roughly, the smaller batteries would not last or provide sufficient power, the radios could not be placed upright on a table because the weight of the antenna would cause it to fall over, etc. This became a problem for pros such as police and firefighters and also with consumer level radios such as FRS or GMRS devices. Going small is not necessarily a good thing for the end user. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Mark, I would posit that a sim card, while obviously a component, also straddles the line into device, in that, for some of us, it's a frequently moved accessory. --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 8:08 AM Steve, I was addressing components; you are addressing consumer devices. Increasing component density translates into increasing performance, reliability or capacity/capability (depending on what the engineers focus on). It allows things that were stationary to become faster, mobile or just cheaper. The user interface is an entirely different issue. You are addressing that issue. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Again, this is true for some, perhaps even most electronic/digital devices, but this trend is not universal nor is it always permanent. Some types of devices that went through a size shrinkage phase reverted to becoming larger again because smallness became a liability as opposed to an asset. Going small in such cases provides a benefit only for the manufacturer, not for the consumer. Hand-held two-way radios are an example that immediately comes to mind. Being made too small did not work well for users. The tiny buttons became hard to deal with, the small speaker rendered voice communications hard to understand, smaller displays were hard to read, they broke when dropped or were handled roughly, the smaller batteries would not last or provide sufficient power, the radios could not be placed upright on a table because the weight of the antenna would cause it to fall over, etc. This became a problem for pros such as police and firefighters and also with consumer level radios such as FRS or GMRS devices. Going small is not necessarily a good thing for the end user. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Points well-taken, Mark, and I don't for a moment think that own particular usage will carry the day in the general market. I deal with people in multiple countries, and all have finite resources. In addition to the courtesy of having local phone numbers, I also allow my associates the economy of not having to make international calls texts. There are times when I have to change cards, on crossing a frontier. Storage of the current SIM configuration has not been a problem. --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 9:55 AM Okay. If you're using multiple SIMs that are small, I would suggest a container system to prevent losing them. As their density increases, is it logical to expect you to use fewer of them, change them out less often? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Mark, I would posit that a sim card, while obviously a component, also straddles the line into device, in that, for some of us, it's a frequently moved accessory. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
For some, change=improvement. Get a life. I am grateful, but alarmed at your reporting, Betty. next-generation for new generation sims looks like sales device, period paragraph. What benefit to consumers? The simplicity of swapping sim cards has been a huge boon to my professional activities elsewhere; I do not welcome the need to carry tweezers and magnifier, only to accomplish ordinary transit from country to country. My needs possibly are unusual, this does appear analogous to being told that my shoe size has been improved. --- On Mon, 2/1/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? [was: You Saw the Demo?...] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 12:48 AM nonstandard SIM slot It is not non-standard. In is the next generation SIM. Once again, some prefer to be clinging to the past. This SIM card is too small for those of us who switch cards frequently. The micro SIM is about 30% smaller [about the size you need to cut a regular SIM card to fit two SIMs for two networks in one phone], and is too easy to lose when switching networks. Unless there is a way to add new networks without removing the card, the micro SIM will be easily lost. Since T-Mobile is one of the first to use the cards, there probably will be a remedy for that in their new European phones and devices. However because the new specs add multitasking and authentication, it could be an interesting way to prevent fraud [but that will be circumvented quickly]. There's no good reason for the new SIM to be a different size than the old SIM since the active part is the same size as the current SIM card. However there may be two not so good reasons. First, size makes it so that the two cards are distinguishable from each other [not important, since new card is backward compatible]. More important, the newer SIM won't fit [you can slide it in, but you can't get it out!] in a lot of current phones that work fine now but may have to be replaced sooner than expected if ATT and T-Mobile decide to switch quickly to the new cards. Questionable for most consumers--good for the corporate bottom line. Who has a budget for this? I can wait until next year, at least, and let the bleeding edgers get hosed before the price drops. I think I'll go read a real book now. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM
Deconstructing: smaller, key parts, every year. Fine. And good for those who crave koolaid. Now, let others of us get on with our purposes in life. Selling the next smaller key parts every year is kinda dull. Is that all there is? I haven't time or cash to devote to the bottom line of those who bring hollow enforced improvement in order to ask for new investment on their behalf. Perhaps you do. Good luck with that, and make that four wheel drive. 98% of the world's people haven't time for such profligacy. Or better yet: ask a GI to change the new, improved 30% smaller sim card in an Iraqi sand storm. Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key internal parts get smaller too? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad ramification
I firmly endorse your thoughts, Constance. There is another consideration about Apple that has troubled me. When it's important to the corporation, minorities provide entertainment content to rollouts, and dork white guys present substance. Perhaps this is the same for other digital advertising, I'm not conversant with that. Within Apple promotion, the '50's is model: white guys carry the water, others have, at best, supportive role. The vanishingly few minorities I have encountered in my local Apple stores are exactly the same kind of solve-your-problem types that are Apple's welcome standard. --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: From: Constance Warner cawar...@his.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 10:59 AM No, I'm not OBJECTING to anything. I'm just pointing out that for 50+ per cent of the population, calling something a pad without a modifier (word, adjective, etc.) up front (e.g. lily pad, launch pad, mattress pad) inevitably raises mental pictures of a certain kind. If anything, the single letter i just intensifies the mental picture, because it turns pad into a really big, official deal, reinforced by tons of Madison Avenue hoopla. Pad also raises other mental pictures of a less sensitive sort, and there are other names for feminine sanitary supplies that I won't go into here. Frankly, I think it's hilarious. The only dismaying aspect is that Apple seems to have been blind to the way the name of a major product would resonate with 50 per cent of the population--women. It makes computing look like a boys' club thing, with no girls allowed. Which is really odd--I thought they wanted to sell as much product as they could, to as many customers as possible. As I said, a marketing blunder. On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, tjpa wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Don't be silly. All the items you cite are paired with something other than a single letter. So you object to the single letter? Now who is being silly? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad ramification
Yes, that surely is the answer. --- On Fri, 1/29/10, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: From: mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iPad ramification To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 4:28 PM Maybe they aren't applying for the job. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:58 PM, chad evans wyatt cewyattph...@yahoo.comwrote: I firmly endorse your thoughts, Constance. There is another consideration about Apple that has troubled me. When it's important to the corporation, minorities provide entertainment content to rollouts, and dork white guys present substance. Perhaps this is the same for other digital advertising, I'm not conversant with that. Within Apple promotion, the '50's is model: white guys carry the water, others have, at best, supportive role. The vanishingly few minorities I have encountered in my local Apple stores are exactly the same kind of solve-your-problem types that are Apple's welcome standard. --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: From: Constance Warner cawar...@his.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 10:59 AM No, I'm not OBJECTING to anything. I'm just pointing out that for 50+ per cent of the population, calling something a pad without a modifier (word, adjective, etc.) up front (e.g. lily pad, launch pad, mattress pad) inevitably raises mental pictures of a certain kind. If anything, the single letter i just intensifies the mental picture, because it turns pad into a really big, official deal, reinforced by tons of Madison Avenue hoopla. Pad also raises other mental pictures of a less sensitive sort, and there are other names for feminine sanitary supplies that I won't go into here. Frankly, I think it's hilarious. The only dismaying aspect is that Apple seems to have been blind to the way the name of a major product would resonate with 50 per cent of the population--women. It makes computing look like a boys' club thing, with no girls allowed. Which is really odd--I thought they wanted to sell as much product as they could, to as many customers as possible. As I said, a marketing blunder. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
Right on all counts, Betty. iPad, iDon't. Certainly not this v.1.0. Entertainment is not the first imperative for me when on the road, getting work done is. (Live performance is infinitely better, anyway.) And what a blunder of a dumb name. I'm good with my Nokia and Touch; if I don't haul the laptop, I can always borrow a computer wherever I land. --- On Thu, 1/28/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 12:38 PM Don't need it, but might want something like that one day. I don't like eBooks unless someone is reading to me, i.e. audio books. Eeeeuuuwww! Slimy touch screen. Does it come with display cleaner? Keyboard is extra--a lot extra. [I don't mind the Touch's touch screen because it's small and easy to clean--on my sleeve.] Doesn't fit in my pocket. However the big deal breaker is the Micro SIM. What are they thinking??? This must be an ATT demand so that travelers have to use their expensive international network. iPad users won't be able to use the device in Europe on the 8-20 euro data plans because those SIMS won't fit. Euro iPads using regular SIMS will be able to use our overpriced US networks. Of course, this assumes that the SIM slot isn't sealed. iPhone may also be using the Micro SIM soon; an iPhone with sealed Micro SIM is DOA. Chad? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
For Tom and the rest of the guys out there who are having hiccups understanding the vibe of the term iPad, check this out on You Tube. As I said, dumb name. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx1g_sOKHl4 --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: From: Constance Warner cawar...@his.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 5:38 PM Not to be too delicate about it, but for any adolescent or adult woman, something named iPad inspires, at best, discreet laughter. (Not to mention a mental picture you'd rather not contemplate.) Sorry about that, guys. Maybe they can extensively modify version 2.0 and call it something else. On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:12 PM, tjpa wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:29 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: And what a blunder of a dumb name. iPod was called dumb too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
It's simple: try this i (can), etc. The idea of Mac always was computing for the rest of us. Simple, and works. --- On Thu, 1/28/10, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 7:06 PM On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: Not to be too delicate about it, but for any adolescent or adult woman, something named iPad inspires, at best, discreet laughter. (Not to mention a mental picture you'd rather not contemplate.) Sorry about that, guys. Apple has chosen an indelicate name for this device. Bad on them. On the same tangent, I am still trying to find out what the i part of their various names is supposed to refer to. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] This is dedicated to all those spending big bucks on components
What a great read, fell off my chair reading this crazed guy! The shell game he exposes (loved especially the denuding of the THETA) just confirms my own position that I would rather hear live performance anytime. Many thanks for posting this, Eric. --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] This is dedicated to all those spending big bucks on components To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 7:24 PM Take a look at some of this: http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/REFERENCES/wadia%20WT%203200/WT3200.html http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/REFERENCES/CYRUS/Cyrus%20DAD1.html http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/REFERENCES/Meridian207/meridian207.html http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/REFERENCES/MHZS/MHZS_CD66F.html http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/REFERENCES/TEAC-T1/VRDS-T1.html http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/REFERENCES/THETA%20Universal/theta.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
This is one of the most off-track threads that I can recall. But since Kodachrome has been mentioned, I thought to recall Kodachrome II, the greatest color film ever. Disappeared during the rapacious Hunt brothers' execrable attempt to corner the silver market in the early 70's. Probably the demarcation of Kodak's utter fall from grace. They discarded silver-rich K II in favor of K25 and K64, both inferior films; pros saw the difference, and stocked their freezers with what remained of the K II left. Anyone curious to see what a real dmax film can do need only look at National Geographics of the early 70's and prior. Kodak's hubris of trying to slip inferior stock under the nose of market turmoil led to an opening for Fuji, and for E6 processing. No looking back. There is a third act for Kodak, however: their high-end imaging sensors today are the best anywhere. Shutter lag. Teddy Kennedy was the toughest act ever to photograph. Unlike every other public speaker, his habit was to raise his hands while looking down. Any pro worth his salt wants gesture and eye contact simultaneously. Timing was everything. Mention has been made about delay with film SLR. The precision of Leica and other rangefinder immediacy skips past all of that. Only delay is in the eye-hand relay. Shooting with bursts is simply idiotic, assumption that something will work out. The decisive moment occurs athletically within the photographer. Can we drop this now? --- On Tue, 1/26/10, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:54 PM On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: We know better now. Today Kodak is not making Kodachrome any more. Right. So Kodak dropped a venerable film from their product line. A large part of the reason was because of competition from Fuji. An awful lot of photographers preferred a couple of the Fuji's over Kodachrome. Also, most of the users of Kodachrome, your typical holiday snap shooters, were switching to mostly point and shoot digital for all their photo taking. Kodak continues to produce a wide variety of film for the casual photographer up to the professionals. Kodak is certainly not out of the film business. Film is not going away, at least not in your lifetime. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Cars and the CES...
Steve, meet the folks who would tell you that all you saw was a chimera, dodging your gps-obsessed vaneer: http://www.ce.org/ --- On Mon, 1/11/10, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Cars and the CES... To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 6:29 PM On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: A distraction is a distraction, whether it is spoken or poking buttons. The skills of the average driver these days are bad enough without adding this kind of foolishness. Last Monday, I was a passenger in a car and I observed a fellow in front of us who was trying to input some information into a GPS unit that was mounted on his windshield as he was moving down the road at about 45 mph. I had noticed his vehicle, a minivan, weaving around as the car I was riding in kept getting closer, and at first I assumed he was on a cell phone. Getting closer revealed that the he was working with his GPS unit, and that was the cause of his weaving about on the roadway. He suddenly weaved to the right again, this time forcing someone in a pickup truck in the right lane to have to dodge onto the shoulder of the road in order to avoid a collision. The guy farting around with the GPS unit remained totally unaware and apparently oblivious to the problems he was creating. A pox on all these electronic and other distracting devices in vehicles. A pox on those who futz around with them while driving as well. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
Amen, Tony --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] a new word? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 11:45 AM It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. I've never in my life heard the word wireline before today, and really can't see the need when landline works so well. Unless maybe we're talking about wired lines in the air? Even underwater lines lay on the ground. Apparently this comes from someone at the Justice Department. God knows where they heard it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/04/AR2010010403062.html?wpisrc=nl_tech If wireline providers charge more for service packages that involve greater speeds and/or higher usage limits, consumers purchasing these packages may not enjoy the benefits of competition from wireless broadband, or may do so only indirectly to the extent that consumers as a whole display a willingness to substitute slower wireless service for faster wireline service, the agency said in its filing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
In Tom's absence, that monthly show has devolved into comfort food wallpaper. More about smooth talk than about true help. But that's what the station admin and public want, I listen only with half an ear... --- On Tue, 1/5/10, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:33 PM This is not totally correct, but it seems as though the WAMU Computer Guys show in the DC area that Tom used to be on has somewhat devolved more accurately into the Cellphone Guys show. They really like to get heavily into discussion of all the latest cell phones. almost at times to the exclusion of more traditional talk of computers. It seemingly often takes a caller to the show to get them off the subject of phones and to deal with actual computers, you know, those things that have real keyboards, big screens and sit on your desk or might be on your lap. Maybe there is just more stuff coming out all the time in the way of phones, an endless slew of new product that provides for a lot of labial fodder to fill the time slot. Leave it to the listeners, though, to get 'em back to talking bits and bytes and actual computing solutions. This is just an unscientific random observation. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] PC Magazine
Curious that no mention here of the passing of PC Magazine, crossed over after the January issue into digital only. As Mac-centric, I nonetheless value the opinions and information from a great publication, now left hardcopy after 20 years. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] rain in the Cloud
I guess Betty was right http://www.technologyreview.com/web/24166/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS?
I hold no particular brief about PC's, use them frequently during travel, with only few problems, mostly due to my mac-user grammar (well, once I was saddled with a box that was described as taken over by Mossad, but who knows?). PC's have known issues, they are the dominant platform, thus attract bad guys. Knowing that going in, one has to armor them before use. Unfair, a recurring but predictable problem. See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/18/AR2009121801064.html --- On Mon, 12/21/09, Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 5:20 PM At 05:08 PM 12/21/2009, you wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:19 PM, db wrote: Sorry for the bad news. It's unlikely that there is an easy or quick solution to your problem. Switch to a Mac and don't install Office. That will make him practically invincible. Ya know, I'm just a simple Windows user here. I have a few experiences under my belt, which people on this list have helped me resolve, but never anything too serious. Replies like this are wearying. Switch to a Mac??? This woman just gave a brand new computer to her son. There is a problem with it. I really don't think she wrote in to this list to be told Switch to a Mac. Do you really feel that is helpful advice at this point? If this list is meant only for Mac users, I wish someone would state that so the rest of us can find a different list that may be more helpful. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!
Rev – Yo Rev – You've gotten finally to what for me is square one of any phone, smart or not. The SIM card. Any phone I carry must have the ability to change its SIM card, so that I can use the network where I go. In the US, I have a contract with T-Mobil, but when traveling, I can purchase a local SIM card, my familiar phone continues operating. Thus, I was mobil in Australia, Poland, Hungary, Germany and the Czech Republic this year, using inexpensive SIM cards dedicated to networks in those countries. The iPhone's essential flaw is this inability, and Google has taken note. Those Apple profits are not assured indefinitely. Sure, 800,000 apps are cool, but how many of those are essential? 10? 50? Doesn't this remind of the speed wars of just yesterday: my processor can run rings around yours. How important is that now? Actual calls, vs text messaging? Real or virtual keyboard? Mattered a lot when we weren't used to them, now not an issue, save for crackberry addicts, and how long will they hold out? The reason we have this US network testosterone contest is that each of our companies has had to build out costly systems. They recoup their investments with onerous contracts reminiscent of 18th century indentured servitude. Were all that investment put into one bucket, a GSM network, think of the flexibility and reliability we all would have. And how many fewer handsets would be dumped each year into landfills, along with their precious minerals, available to manufacturers from vanishingly limited suppliers. Where there are GSM builds in Europe, used phones are a robust market, one can use a 10-yr-old Nokia with the same clarity as today's rocket model. Rev, you could buy an ancient phone to use in Canada, instead of a new one for the limited purpose of making calls there; and would not have to incur roaming charges. Get the point? CDMA is the Pong of today, outdated. If I recall correctly, even Verizon is exploring GSM. PS, this is why I use Macs: they last longer, at least at my hand. I therefore slow the rate at which I dump electronic parts into the environment. OK: I also find them simpler to use. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help! To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 8:43 AM This is what is being rumored at this point. Stewart At 12:16 AM 12/15/2009, you wrote: Is it possible that we could just buy this phone from Google online, switch the SIM chip from our current carrier and cellular plan into it and off we go. Since I have no contract in force ... it expired ... that would mean I would never need another contract ... unless I was to change carriers etc. Could this be the first break in the US cellular monopoly and eventually lead us to a cellular situation as in a lot of the rest of the world, where you buy a phone and a chip and off you go... buying more minutes as necessary? db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
As one who has had to substitute phrase and idiom within translation over some time, I would caution that close often is close enough. Precision lies elsewhere, hence my comment that GoogleTranslate is valuable. Often, I have to read through msgs from my correspondents swiftly, in order to understand intention. That works a lot of the time. As example, Czechs tolerate little not exact, but we in the US accept language that is imprecise, in order to grasp meaning, our own minorities do not express themselves precisely.. --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 10:14 AM Betty translation sites lack the human factor. I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer. The result was acceptable but not great. I also had my mother translate it for me. They were different. One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and phrasing for things like this. It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the person of that language as they would not say it correctly. Example. English - Shut the window please. German - Bitte schleissen dem fenster. That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that way. Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte. Make the window too please! Sounds awful in English but it is a proper translation again. All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning that language and makes you speak more like a native. Stewart At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote: I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English is very good, but there are many words she doesn't know. I asked her if she wanted pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to Google's language tools and translated it into Thai and showed it to her. She laughed. It was pistachio spelled phonetically using the Thai alphabet. We looked for a photograph that she recognized, the she told me that in Thai [translated again] it's called a smiling nut. I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate Spanish -- English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek -- English is better. It's also handy in translating Russian, since I don't have the alphabet memorized well enough to use a dictionary. Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
Amusing for you, perhaps, but essential cross-cultural understanding for me, Steve. Sometimes, our US-centric orientation is unseemly. --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net wrote: From: Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 12:27 PM A good test of machine translation is to translate and then translate back to the original language. This can also be highly amusing. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Betty translation sites lack the human factor. I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer. The result was acceptable but not great. I also had my mother translate it for me. They were different. One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and phrasing for things like this. It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the person of that language as they would not say it correctly. Example. English - Shut the window please. German - Bitte schleissen dem fenster. That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that way. Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte. Make the window too please! Sounds awful in English but it is a proper translation again. All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning that language and makes you speak more like a native. Stewart At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote: I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English is very good, but there are many words she doesn't know. I asked her if she wanted pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to Google's language tools and translated it into Thai and showed it to her. She laughed. It was pistachio spelled phonetically using the Thai alphabet. We looked for a photograph that she recognized, the she told me that in Thai [translated again] it's called a smiling nut. I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate Spanish -- English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek -- English is better. It's also handy in translating Russian, since I don't have the alphabet memorized well enough to use a dictionary. Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
Thanks, for your compassionate understanding in this, Rev. In the plane of cross-cultural acitivity, those of us grasping for any tool are grateful, imperfect as those may be. All of you should understand, beyond geek-centricity, that some of us are using tools to bring people together, offering moment for those with aspiration to reach chance. --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:32 PM It is great to help comprehension and to get the gist of what is written in a foreign language. No doubt. But sometimes it misses the subtleties that can also be contained in there. They are always a good start, but should never be substituted for the real thing. Stewart At 12:20 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote: On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:25 AM, chad evans wyatt wrote: I would caution that close often is close enough. It gets one from zero comprehension to as much as 90% comprehension. That is quite an achievement and very useful. Maybe a computer should not even try to do better. Because the translation is rough it makes us acutely aware that there could be some big errors. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions
I would aver that Google Translate is getting better. Not yet quite good in Slavic languages and Hungarian. But a great help. --- On Sun, 12/6/09, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Server restrictions To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 4:29 PM Google's translation service is quite good. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] This brings me to another question...
úspěšný --- On Sat, 11/21/09, John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] This brings me to another question... To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 11:00 AM tjpa wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:13 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Does the accent in _escribió_ appear in this message? How about here: Looks good here. Thunderbird Mail on XP Pro. -- Sous le ciel tout étoilé John Settle Personal Webpage: Urban Astro Images http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejjs-cts/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Region 2 + language problem
Ooops, needed to say that this in on a g4 laptop, running Tiger. TIA --- On Fri, 11/20/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Region 2 To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 10:15 AM mike xha...@gmail.com escribió: Check VLC, I think it's region free. VLC, http://www.videolan.org/, works OK with our videos from Spain. Be sure that your default video player doesn't open first when you insert the DVD. Your computer may automatically reject the disk before VLC opens it. Whatever happens, DON'T change the region code in your DVD burner. You can also buy commercial DVD players that ignore region codes so you can watch your movies on the huge TV you'll be getting on Black Friday. We have a Yamakawa that's region-free; there are many more, and they're not expensive. The Yamakawa was around $30, at least 5 years ago. VLC--Yes! Enjoy the videos, with popcorn! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Region 2
I am shortly to receive a set of DVD's of a theatre piece performed in Serbia. That is Region 2, we are Region 1. Ideally, I would like to play these discs on my g4 desktop and laptop. Anyone have luck with this problem? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone
Amen --- On Sun, 10/18/09, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:46 PM On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Well done. Of course it doesn't mention all the things the Android does not have. Competition will be good. Okay, apparently it has a five megapixel image sensor for its camera. So what? Five megapixels on what size sensor? Image quality is not derived from the number of megapixels alone. The physical sensor size that contains those five megapixels can be as important as the sheer number of pixels. Three megapixels on a larger sensor can outperform five megapixels on a smaller one. And let's not forget the lens. Sounds like more of the old megapixels wars to me. Yawn. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone
Steve, you are entirely right, and it is quite depressing to me how very many cameras have been sold on the basis of augmented megapixels. The sensor is key, and its size truly determines quality of image. Those of us who formerly were dedicated to excellence in the film era have wandered in a ten-year nightmare of mediocrity until now, only today can avail ourselves of cameras reasonably priced that come close to the real raw that Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell.com/ describes as the capability of even 35mm. Set aside the former standards of rollfilm and 4x5, which, in the 1950's, were the province of ordinary press coverage. Truly depressing to see media and cultural acceptance today of the pedestrian. Interesting that Kodak, thought moribund, now produces the very best sensors anywhere, and that the new Leica M9 takes advantage of those, as do NASA probes, shunting the utterly sophomoric/complex entries of both Nikon and Canon sideways. One hopes that not long from now, the curses of shutter-lag, low dynamic range, inadequate color management will once again be overcome in cameras affordable and decipherable to all, both amateur and professional. That this is slightly off-topic, but a good chance to air some views, I apologise. Thank you. --- On Mon, 10/19/09, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 9:38 AM On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:33 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what your point is..no one knows what size the image sensor it has, let alone as you say the quality...but you are still dismissing it? Not dismissing it. I do, however, dismiss the megapixel wars as if that is the sole criteria by which to judge the capability of cameras. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
I agree with the Rev that Betty has it right, at least for my needs. Here is an exhaustive article that might be of some interest http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/magazine/14search-t.html?scp=1sq=magazine%20infrastructure%20issuest=cse --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please... To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 8:40 PM Continue to preach the word Betty some folks might even listen. The only good backups are ones where you know that they are and can get at them when needed. Any other type is asking for trouble. Stewart At 07:30 PM 10/15/2009, you wrote: Heh heh, FOGGY, heh heh, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Hah! The cloud! Foggy! Cloud changes its name every few years. I hated it 20 years ago, 10 years ago, still sucks. The best thing about it is that when [not if] it crashes, I don't have to do any work until it comes online again. That's the worst thing about it too. It's a good idea to have multiple backups and archives in multiple locations for important data. The cloud is only one place. It's as reliable as the companies that provide service. Online applications are another story. If you really need to rely on software, keep it local. The connection is most likely to fail when you need it the most! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870)
Ummm.. Equating thousands to billions? --- On Thu, 9/17/09, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: From: mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 10:30 AM No, I accidentally hit the send button on my iPod touch. What I do find is that one side only mentions the problems with the other side. For every Madoff there is a government bureaucrat like Geithner ripping us off. For every wall street banker there are guys like Ted Stevens or Charlie Rangel. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 6:13 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The plundering, the Bernie Madoff's, the ongoing banking and financial debacle, Wall Street crimes and misdeeds, etc., etc., etc. Steve Yes, I did write that. Do you find it to be objectionable or untrue? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870)
Guess I deserve this, you have previously exhibited little brake to your posturing, why should I expect anything else. OK, grant you all points. Wasn't your comparison relatively small infractions vs others that flung the economy in the ditch? I like your researched polemic, but doesn't address my comment one whit (and I note that the previous communication has been edited to your benefit). Perhaps some counseling might help...Hey, and why do you have an iPod Touch, anyway? Isn't that the golden devil? Mike, this site is about computer tech. I really want to know about transferring data from one hd to another, why adobe has become such a scold, what is the best strategy for spending the next thousand dollars, why a completely inscrutable prompt comes up. It's long past time that you confine your obvious expertise to computer matters, to the benefit of everyone. We who come here have grown tired of pre-adolescent spitting matches. Thank you. --- On Thu, 9/17/09, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: From: mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 12:04 PM You need to read more. Geithner is monetizing our debt and Obama and team want to raise our debt ceiling again, this has been done several times by both parties. This isn't about some hated neocon vs liberal wackos, this is both parties ripping us off. The fed which can print money on command it seems, printed and bought 7 billion in debt from the US Government. So we have the debt ceiling over 12 trillion, which is more then thousands...and we are monetizing our debt into the billions..also more then thousands. Some want to keep arguing left vs right, this is a distraction and keeps those screwing us happy because it keeps the spotlight off what they are doing. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:21 AM, chad evans wyatt cewyattph...@yahoo.comwrote: Ummm.. Equating thousands to billions? --- On Thu, 9/17/09, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: From: mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 10:30 AM No, I accidentally hit the send button on my iPod touch. What I do find is that one side only mentions the problems with the other side. For every Madoff there is a government bureaucrat like Geithner ripping us off. For every wall street banker there are guys like Ted Stevens or Charlie Rangel. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 6:13 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The plundering, the Bernie Madoff's, the ongoing banking and financial debacle, Wall Street crimes and misdeeds, etc., etc., etc. Steve Yes, I did write that. Do you find it to be objectionable or untrue? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870)
QED --- On Thu, 9/17/09, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: From: mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:38 PM Since you address me in this section I'll assume you missed the part of this thread where a dozen others were having their spitting matches? If you don't like the thread, don't open it, while this is a computer list we do get into other topics but they usually are fairly well marked as non computer. And if they aren't, by the time this one hit about 20 replies and it was all politics, it wasn't hard to assume it was, well..about politics. You didn't have a problem with the non tech angle of this thread till someone said something you disagreed with, which means you are fine with off topic threads as long as you control them. Right now I'm not spitting, I'm just blowing raspberries at you. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:14 AM, chad evans wyatt cewyattph...@yahoo.comwrote: Mike, this site is about computer tech. I really want to know about transferring data from one hd to another, why adobe has become such a scold, what is the best strategy for spending the next thousand dollars, why a completely inscrutable prompt comes up. It's long past time that you confine your obvious expertise to computer matters, to the benefit of everyone. We who come here have grown tired of pre-adolescent spitting matches. Thank you. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ipod touch not the golden devil was: Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870)
Thanks for this, valuable insight. --- On Thu, 9/17/09, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: From: mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] ipod touch not the golden devil was: Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:47 PM What makes you think I believe it's a golden devil? iPod touch = the cool. Also on a related note of sorts. I emailed the list about choices in cell phones and service, and the comments were all helpful. I had almost decided for sure I was going to get the new mytouch from Tmobile. I had wanted an iPhone or at least iPhone like, ATT's service is too expensive for my taste, so the next best was the mytouch. Then something great happened. Sprint announced the HTC Hero was going to their network..at a cheaper price than the Mytouch. This is an all around better unit then the Mytouch, and with my discount at Sprint, their basic everything service is much cheaper than anyone else. The only part I didn't like too much was Sprint changing the form factor of the Hero headed to the states. The UK model was distinctive and in almost every review said to be comfortable to use. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:14 AM, chad evans wyatt cewyattph...@yahoo.comwrote: .Hey, and why do you have an iPod Touch, anyway? Isn't that the golden devil? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] US broadband: could be worse
1tb is the province of pedicabs, very reliable. --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] US broadband: could be worse To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 10:47 AM This might actually work for us too, since video files are still too large to transfer via the internet. I wonder how many 3.5 drives a pigeon could carry? Or, how many pigeons would we need to reliably transfer say, 1tb of data via flash drives. I imagine some would get lost/killed, so there would need to be redundancy. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: We shouldn't complain about U.S. broadband. Check this article about broadband in South Africa. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1212214/Company-enlists-Winston-homing-pigeon-carry-data-transfer--faster-broadband.html Or: http://tinyurl.com/nszden It's not mentioned in the article, but a test run has been completed. When the pigeon arrived with the memory card, a broadband transfer of the same data was 4% complete. And they are serious--this is not some kind of protest or demonstration. They are planning to do this routinely. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation
Not sure where you are, here in the DC area, Heller Information Services is responsive, consistent, reliable. http://info.his.com/ --- On Sat, 9/5/09, chrper...@aol.com chrper...@aol.com wrote: From: chrper...@aol.com chrper...@aol.com Subject: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 9:42 AM I am very unhappy with my current webhost. They have no phone access when problems arise, and lately they've been causing problems with mail list access and web host issues as well. I know this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find the archived posts. I would like a local host if possible, but I definitely am interested in dealing with a Mac friendly host, and one with phone help available, at least during business hours. TIA Mical Wimoth Carton chrper...@aol.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation
While not challenging your assessment, Heller's tech support has been outsourced for the decade I've been with them. I would aver the I don't know's report might have something to do with the level of support you require; greatly more sophisticated than my own needs. My e-mails are always answered promptly, sometimes by Paul Heller himself. --- On Sat, 9/5/09, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:52 AM On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:22 AM Sep 5, chad evans wyatt wrote: Not sure where you are, here in the DC area, Heller Information Services is responsive, consistent, reliable. http://info.his.com/ Not what it once was. They seem to have outsourced their support. I get too many I don't knows and we'll call you backs from them these days. The techs are clearly not local, but not from India either. Questions sent via email get ignored. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Turns Black to White
This is true, and, as a Mac user all my computing life, I've noticed this and felt quite uncomfortable about it. The sense of community is rather skewered toward white reps and users; entertainers of other ethnic origin qualify as emblems only (eg Macy Gray). --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Apple will never have to worry about such things, considering how their ads are unfailingly stuffed with lily-white actors. It's like a 1950's Newport yacht club. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users
Thanks to both Betty and Mark for cool and dispassionate logic. --- On Wed, 8/26/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 12:18 PM I mean, if someone buys a Mac and runs their PC on it, are they a Windows user or a Mac user? YES! We can do both. We are 'ambidextrous'. We have Macs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars
And, DC is code for? Tell you what: you carry your gun, grandma carries her gun, the legislator next door carries his gun, and we all go into DC and show people what real is real. Got my gun. Happiness is... --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: From: Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:17 PM Nope, but then again, I don't live in DC. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] foreign
All of which is why you might consider a Mac in future. These are not problems on that platform. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: From: rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] foreign To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:09 PM Ok.I'm getting usta keystroke combos for accented characters in French .but, they don't work in such things as dialog windows in browser pages, search boxes, and notepad .I have had2 resurrect WordPad to type the accented characters and then cut and paste into the boxes .I bought office 2007 ultimate and also the French language pack, but that doesn't help any of this.as a matter of fact, it is supposed to auto detect the language and spell-check appropriately, it doesn't work and keeps returning to the English dictionary for each word .then it switches finally to the French dictionary after quite a few words have been checked .then it works fine! .what a chore windows must be for anyone who isn't using English !! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
Likewise, in the Czech Republic - only for longer. There, families also have maternity leave that can last for a year, with return to one's job. Two years, but not to the same guaranteed position. --- On Tue, 7/28/09, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:42 AM On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:06 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Germany uses less than 11% of GDP for health care, but it's better than in the US where it's well over 15% of GDP and rising fast. In Germany they will send you to a spa for a week if you convince the doctor that you are too stressed at work. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] error code
Good point. I'm on OSX10.4.11. Thanks for the link. --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Paul Cannon pecan...@bellatlantic.net wrote: From: Paul Cannon pecan...@bellatlantic.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] error code To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 10:12 AM You did not mention which version of the OS you are using. I don't have a mac but I found this url http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618 it applies to OS 9 so if you are using OS X then you might want to scour apple's kbase. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 05:55:19AM -0700, chad evans wyatt wrote: Anyone able to identify error code -42? I use a Mac. Came up when attempting to transfer files from backup HD to desktop. Got around this by re-booting. But sure would like to know what that is. Thanks! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] error code
Thanks, Tom! Next time, I'll keep it down to only 75 files... --- On Fri, 7/17/09, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] error code To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 10:40 AM On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:55 AM, chad evans wyatt wrote: Anyone able to identify error code -42? Error -42 is: tmfoErr (too many files open) There is a list here... /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/Current/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/Current/Headers/MacErrors.h * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] foreign
Seems complex. On my Mac, I simply summon up another language's native keyboard, there are literally dozens of options. I use Czech, Slovak, Polish, French, Hungarian, Lithuanian regularly, no fuss. Were it required, I could go several kinds of Chinese, Afghan, Armenian, Norwegian, Persian, etc. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Ellen Rains Harris el...@goodshiptabasco.com wrote: From: Ellen Rains Harris el...@goodshiptabasco.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] foreign To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:13 AM Type any of the symbols (carat, tilde, etc,) then type the letter you want it to apply to. Umlauts are from the shift-quote (double quotes). Just play with it, you'll figure it out. Oh, and now you have to put a space after quote marks to make them appear. élse they become áccents. Éllèn - * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] foreign
But why? Large gigabyte HD's obviate this former economy. And the convenience of using any keyboard in another native configuration surely is benefit. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: From: mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] foreign To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 2:13 PM Just an FYI, removing unneeded languages from OS X is one of the ways to reclaim a small amount of HD space. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:14 AM, chad evans wyatt cewyattph...@yahoo.comwrote: Seems complex. On my Mac, I simply summon up another language's native keyboard, there are literally dozens of options. I use Czech, Slovak, Polish, French, Hungarian, Lithuanian regularly, no fuss. Were it required, I could go several kinds of Chinese, Afghan, Armenian, Norwegian, Persian, etc. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Ellen Rains Harris el...@goodshiptabasco.com wrote: From: Ellen Rains Harris el...@goodshiptabasco.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] foreign To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:13 AM Type any of the symbols (carat, tilde, etc,) then type the letter you want it to apply to. Umlauts are from the shift-quote (double quotes). Just play with it, you'll figure it out. Oh, and now you have to put a space after quote marks to make them appear. élse they become áccents. Éllèn - * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] firewire
I have run LaCie ruggeds through both firewire 400 and USB on my Macs for the last four years, without problem. Firewire 800 also works without hesitancy on my Powerbook for those units. fwiw. --- On Fri, 7/10/09, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: From: rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] firewire To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 2:13 PM Then could I do the reverse? Power it from the usb and run the data through the firewire? -Original Message- From: t.piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:01 PM Subject: Re: firewire Confirmed. 4-pin is the lame PC version of FireWire. Never missing the opportunity to build 'em cheaper and worse. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran
Hugely important, if true. A link would have been welcome. http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/06/internet_surveillance_and_iran_a_primer.php --- On Wed, 6/24/09, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 8:59 AM Nokia and Siemens last year sold and installed an internet spying system to the Iranian government. This system is used to spy upon all Iranian citizens who use the internet, and it intercepts all e-mail and VOIP traffic. Iran is using the system to locate and identify persons who are opposed to governmental policies and dictates. Various groups are trying to organize boycotts of Nokia and Siemens products in response to the cooperative efforts those companies have provided to the repressive regime in Iran. The Wall Street Journal is the first to report this story in the United States although it had been reported in Europe earlier. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran
Fine, no problem. You established fact, I wanted to see what that was. I did your google for the rest of us, and provided link. Turns out, you were right in your alert, but underpinning would have helped. Your subsequent establishment of blamelessness is interesting, but the accepted form here is to provide reference, unless I'm mistaken. One states fact, provides URL. More economic would have been to simply give link to your research. Sorry if that might have occupied your additional minutes. You are not alone in this posture. Tom is famously indifferent in such behavior. thank you --- On Wed, 6/24/09, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 10:50 AM On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:19 AM, chad evans wyattcewyattph...@yahoo.com wrote: Hugely important, if true. A link would have been welcome. Sorry for no link, but I would have had to have gone looking for one at the time. Not taking any issue with your particular admonition because I didn't provide a link, but why do most folks seem to expect a link these days? I can tell someone when face-to-face that I had heard or seen something, and they will typically listen to what I tell them and then say something like, Really? I am not usually asked to provide them with substantiating evidence to support my statements. Sometimes someone may ask, Where did you hear that. Usually, something as simple as saying I heard it on TV or read it in the paper will suffice. But, on the internet, it seems as though chapter and verse is required even though it is extremely easy for anything to be Googled if someone wants to know more. Just an observation. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran
This is the kind of guy needed right now. You advance it, demonstrate it. Don't make me work to prove what you declare. It's only polite. And thank you. --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:22 PM The internet came from Arpanet, with university students and professors conversing. Links are much like footnotes. We still use them, partly because nobody can see our faces; we are communicating with strangers (much like a research environment), so it can be important (or merely convenient) to be able to check the other's facts. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message-From: Computer Guys Discussion List Not taking any issue with your particular admonition because I didn't provide a link, but why do most folks seem to expect a link these days * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle
Just a bit more for the mix: my mother lives in a retirement community. An informal small sample survey: everyone I talked to was enduring terrible trouble receiving more than 4-5 channels (of sometimes irrelevant content for them), whether or not they have a dtv. Their facility attributes poor reception to robust walls and surrounding interference from trees. They advise cable. My respondants' opinions, no surprise, were: wasn't broke; now it is; damned if I'm going to pay for cable. Most of these people have television as their window to life beyond the circumscription of old age, old bones. Add to that the complexity of dealing with converter box adjustments, there seems a degree of unfair play, here. Didn't Tony say something to the effect that there will be microwave repeater towers to resolve all of this? Why wasn't that done before we jumped? I get a good signal at home. No signal at the office. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] external hard drives
My first LaCie Rugged hard drive three years back did seem relatively expensive at the time, for 80gb. That modest capacity unit remains in service, as well as four others from LaCie, none has failed (I also have read the reviews, but haven't that experience of failure). The cost since has come down drastically. My need to store a growing digital photography archive is well-satisfied by their now attractively priced 1tb units. If they are more expensive than others, they remain inexpensive over time. Much like the factt that macs provide extended service, initial cost is amortised with time. Lots of photographers rely on multiple LaCie Ruggeds on assignment, as do I. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPod digital audio [was: Ipod Touch question]
Betty - If you haven't yet gone there, iLounge has exhaustive iPods discussion http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/entry/apple-ipod-touch-second-generation-8gb-16gb-32gb/ ...far more exhaustive than the shorthand responses you've gotten here. FWIW, I use noise-canceling headphones with my Nano, the fidelity is better than mid-fi, more than enough for my portable needs. Another person wasn't sure about using the Touch for business purposes - the App Store has many solutions. I await only an external bluetooth keyboard, and I'm onboard. Perhaps 3rd gen? --- On Sun, 4/5/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: [CGUYS] iPod digital audio [was: Ipod Touch question] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 10:24 PM snip. Considering the hardware/software features that new iPhone/Touch software has revealed, like Bluetooth in the iPod Touch, it wouldn't surprise me if one of the iPods already has digital audio, but it hasn't been unlocked yet. If not, is it possible to add digital audio in a small music player with current technology [and an inline amp], and keep it affordable [assuming that the 32GB Touch is affordable? Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Audio Quality (was: [CGUYS] Audacity)
A broadcaster friend tells me that audio component sales have dropped, victim certainly of the mp3 tsunami, it's just so convenient to place the whole farm on a portable device. Rock/house sounds fine this way (I mean, who cares?), but crafted music is utterly not listenable in that format. I transfer my digital files from LP and tape to lossless. With memory so inexpensive today, why not? One can always reduce for convenience, but keep the hi-fidelity transfer close to the original (digital never quite reaches analog). Perhaps it will become newly-attractive eventually to reproduce actual sound in future (both studio and performance), but I fear that those of us who lived the audiophile era might be alone in its desire. Today, compression is king, regardless of clothes.. --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote: From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Audio Quality (was: [CGUYS] Audacity) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 10:58 AM I wholeheartedly agree with both posts on audio quality or lack thereof. When I recently went looking for a set of speakers for my computer, I was shocked to see powered speakers at 10% total harmonic distortion. Many Internet sites don't even bother posting the THD for their products. The worst offender I've heard for lack of audio quality is the top rated local FM radio station (WTOP). Their studio audio is superb but the low bandwidth audio which is used for recorded/edited stories is atrocious. When the weather report comes on, sometimes it is so bad I have to turn the radio all the way down until the report is over. It sounds like someone trying to talk under water while chewing marbles in their mouths. Ditto for the sports reporting, and the problem has started showing up in the national broadcasters reports. It really is a shame that the audio quality has degenerated so drastically in the public mainstream. Unfortunately I don't see anything being done about it due the the cost effectiveness of crappy audio. Richard P. It's unfortunate that the standard of audio reproduction is now the built in speakers on a laptop or the earbuds on the rack at Walmart. It's far from any kind of standard. It's mass market crap. Riley, most people don't know any better. I doubt you could make a case that 45 rpm singles and most pop LPs, CDs etc. played on crappy equipment sounded anything better than an MP3. I think most people today have not heard enough live music to have a standard of comparison, and I'm not talking about rock concerts in sports arenas not designed for music here. There are inevitable compromises in attempting to reproduce music as I'm sure you'll agree. But some methods are better than others, as you know. I like your approach, it seems reasonable to me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo
I concur with Betty's passion. But doing what is right often isn't even perceived. My parents were musicians. Friends have offered ripped music gratis, I always refused, to their disbelief. Unfortunately, the internet has brought piracy that is not worth litigating. One of my photos was used in a sweater ad in the Czech Republic, with neither compensation nor attribution. Everyone knows Kafka, right? The Czech courts are very much in that stream. Another image was taken by a small French company to advertise sorbet. Again, unfruitful to go after them. Many are the reasons, but we live in an era of theft on a universal scale. 90% of the software in CZ on private and business computers is pirated. I remember this when throwing cinderblocks at Adobe, who now compete successfully with other onerous software providers. They often have a point. But that's small potatoes compared to commercial and government intrusion. Against that scale, my individual images are important only to me. My attitude in this is to continue creating ideas I assume will be harvested eventually - often swiftly - by the unimaginative unwashed. It's so easy. I applaud David for asking. --- On Thu, 3/12/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:54 AM Your attitude implies that it's OK to steal someone's work. It's not OK, nor is it legal. Has your work ever been stolen? Mine has, and it's a legal mess to try to get compensation. Just in case the original poster misses your note: I believe that his Why not? was referring to the photo being shot at an angle. I don't think he was talking about the copyright issue. OP [David Turk] asked about contacting the owner because he appears to be concerned about the copyright. My reply was to Tony. Copyleft allows use of photos and artwork within specific rules. It's not the same as simply using a photographer's photo of a public place because the subject is public, and implying that it doesn't matter who owns the photo or the owner's preference for distribution. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Audio transfer
Yup, you're right. I should be. Thanks to Betty and to Jordan, and to the rest of you for lots of great information over the past years. Chad --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Audio transfer To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 3:14 PM At the risk of incurring wrath by discussing something digital on this forum, I have a question: I've used Audacity to transfer tape recording to digital, and the results are quite good. However, in Mac I don't seem to have full access to the program's controls. You really do need to be more specific. Audacity has lots of features and trying to guess which ones are giving you trouble would make this thread longer than the dread Resodding... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Audio transfer
At the risk of incurring wrath by discussing something digital on this forum, I have a question: I've used Audacity to transfer tape recording to digital, and the results are quite good. However, in Mac I don't seem to have full access to the program's controls. No complaints whatsoever about the .aiff files, they hold all the signal on the tapes, but I would like to have some more opportunity to shape the eventual files. Any thoughts? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Brilliant matchbox tutorial, why can't everything digital be explained with this level of lucidity? Thanks, Betty --- On Fri, 1/30/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 8:03 PM Chad Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Polish, Lithuanian are all included in Mac international keyboards. I think they need to be Unicode CE fonts othewise all the diacriticals may not display. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Praha (was: Scanned)
Penzion Balbin, Balbínova 26, very close to Václavské náměstí (Wencelas Square) 011 420 222 250 660. Clean, inexpensive, decent breakfast included, tell David I sent you. He can set you up with a good translator. Nice folks. http://balbin.euweb.cz/contact.html --- On Sat, 1/31/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 2:05 PM Glad to provide some clarity. Now, will you find us a place to stay in Praha? HAHAHA [and a translator] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
Now this is example of why I hang with the list, overlooking the bloviating discussion that seems to have overwhelmed the original exchange of information. I have rushed to my InDesign disc, to learn these features, many thanks, Betty. Image quality was really fine with my voodoo improvisation in Photoshop, but this promises to be even better. The diacritical requirements are the háček, etc, of Czech and Slovak, plus correspondence with Hungarian, Polish, Lithuanian accents needed. On the matter of battery life in mobil phones, you are dead-on: overseas, my batteries last forever, here, they deplete rapidly. Thanks for a cogent analysis of our sad-sack wireless situation (fewer bars in more places). --- On Fri, 1/30/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 2:32 PM When I create PDFs from Adobe InDesign, one of the choices is to embed the fonts. I think that Apple's Print to PDF embeds fonts by default. I've had problems with Distiller, mostly because there were too many check boxes to remember. Haven't used it in a long time, but suggest to be very careful which choices you select. Using InDesign or other PostScript layout program is helpful, but it's possible to save the letterhead as a PDF [with embedded preview] then use it as a background in a word processor like Word or Pages, instead of Photoshop [the image in the word processor will be a JPEG]. Photoshop rasterizes fonts rather than embedding font data, i.e. they're pictures of fonts only in the size they are on in that file, rather than the actual fonts. InDesign will embed font data for all sizes of the font in less KB/MB than the picture of the fonts. Do you need InDesign for your business? Maybe, if it's important to send your images to make them look their best. That can be done by creating the file with InDesign, and exporting to PDF. I prefer Quark XPress, but it's much more expensive, and extremely user hostile, although with excellent results. InDesign will always look better than any word processor or files created in Photoshop, and natively exports PDFs. Which diacriticals do you need? [need umlaut, cedilla accent, circumflex, kroužek,, caron, etc?] Install the fonts for the language you want to display/embed. If you use a Mac, its in the International system prefs, although many diacriticals are in standard fonts. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
I have another take on the .pdf's, and take some issue with Tom. I have scanned my letterhead to a pretty high resolution .tif file. I can then type in photoshop my correspondance, then convert to .pdf - clunky, but it works. Files go from 37mb down to a manageable 500kb for e-mail. I am therefore sending a text document that starts as a graphic, and looks great on the screen - even prints well. This also is a way to preserve foreign diacriticals. Which brings up a problem I've had: my Acrobat resists copying those diacriticals from webpages; I've tried through Distiller to get them into the program, without luck. Would appreciate any advice on this. --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 8:33 AM PDF is a vector format derived from PostScript. If you had the original document file, not a scan, then saving it into PDF would be a good idea. The PDF would contain the font information, the text (coded as ASCII or UTF), and geometry infomation about how the text is positioned on the page. While a PDF can contain another file format, like TIFF or JPEG, you are not accomplishing anything useful by doing that. You are just wrapping one file format around a different file format. Double wrapping may be good for the freezer, but for digital data it accomplishes nothing useful. You're overthinking this exercise. Perhaps to you, a graphics person, this data is important. To the average user who just needs the document, they don't care about this metadata if they expect it in read-only form. I haven't cared a bit about the font information in any contract or other form I've received as a pdf and no one has ever complained about a scanned pdf I've sent them. They just want what's in the document itself. It's a good, compact and portable format that most people know what to do with. Few people outside of graphics departments have encountered a tiff; even fewer know what to do with it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Scanned
An honor to be dope-slapped. Equal opportunity. You did see the file reduction, right? Of course I tried .jpg compression first, but that printed very badly @500kb. I wanted a file that would both reduce, but print well, if needed. .pdf conversion worked, trial and error, not sorcery. I haven't conceptual skill to prefigure in computer matters, I'm just a simple photographer. My objective only is something that works for me. Thanks for the advice, however, for the opinion that I have font problems. Guess I knew that, why I wrote. Should have said that I am Mac OSX. I want to thank Fred for offering advice about working my problem in the PC environment, instructive nonetheless. You could have just as well created a JPEG using a variety of other programs. Science give us control over our environment. Sorcery has us painting our faces blue to keep our computers from crashing. Which brings up a problem I've had: my Acrobat resists copying those diacriticals from webpages; I've tried through Distiller to get them into the program, without luck. Would appreciate any advice on this. You probably have font problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPhones Everywhere: sound quality
Trust me, your Nokia is capable of surpassing sound. It's the network that's crappy. My Nokias overseas have such startling sound, there is practically no difference between them and landline. --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iPhones Everywhere To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 11:08 AM So why does an iPhone sound so good and my Nokia/Cingular service sound so awful? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MS emerg security update - anyone notice monitor pr
Same OS, same result: sleep numerous times a day, hard drive spun down. Never a problem. --- On Thu, 11/6/08, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MS emerg security update - anyone notice monitor pr To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 9:14 AM I sleep my MacBook Pro (running 10.4.11) all the time, numerous times a day. Sometimes there will be a dozen programs open for weeks. I think your issues with sleep have been solved. So far so good. Now should I also set it to have my hard drive spin down when it sleeps? That setting used to give me really big headaches. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Strange biases [was: Re: GPS advice]
Betty - I applaud all of your instincts, they are good. However, when on the road for a client, finding obscure sites to make photographs, the locals haven't much to say, but the GPS works beautifully. Restaurant suggestions, etc, take second place to my getting to the right place, and on time. C --- On Mon, 10/13/08, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Strange biases [was: Re: GPS advice] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:19 PM GPS? Don't need it. I always carry a Suunto compass, and pick up maps as I travel. [strange bias?] Maps are great (I love studying maps), but they don't show the nearest BB, Thai restaurant, or gas station. :) That's the thing, there's a whole lot more to a decent GPS than just directions. Ask PEOPLE. They can be very helpful, to the point of giving excellent directions and special details, sometimes inviting you to join them. Besides, many maps and guides are available at local businesses, where you can also talk to people. People are much better local sources than a GPS. They'll also lend your their phone books, which have maps, restaurants, gas stations, accommodations. Some will also make phone calls for you or lend you their phone. [even in big cities] Want to find a good restaurant? First, ask locals for suggestions. Then ask what THEIR favorite restaurant is. You'll almost always get a different answer, and better food. People power! What's your GPS' favorite restaurant/advertiser? Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i
On behalf of the rest of us who are quite tired of this shouting match of the deaf, thank you. --- On Wed, 9/10/08, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 3:57 PM RAID has some possible uses nowadays. Sure. Let's see if we can recap. Bottom line? 1. RAID controllers fail, causing complete data loss and useless disk drives. Huge risk for small benefit. 2. Software RAID has fewer parts to fail and the disks can be read on other machines. 3. Distributing data among multiple computers and disks is affordable for even the smallest businesses. And it is the current best practice. 4. Backups are always important no matter how you are increasing availability through redundancy. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] dual SIM [was: WiFi mobile phone]
In addition to Betty's excellent observations, local sim cards are inexpensive, they always come with bonus minutes, and it always pleases one's hosts to call them from within their own country's telecom system. This is noticed, and earns respect. --- On Thu, 9/4/08, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CGUYS] dual SIM [was: WiFi mobile phone] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 11:03 PM I never could figure out what the dual sim thing allows ...my razrV3 apparently will support dual nam but that,of course, would be on the same service. ...is it that the dual sim allows you to do it with say a couple of gsm cards from different providers? ...like if one is for your work and one personal? In the US: I use T-Mobile. I text. T-Mobile just raised the rates for SMS to 20 cents outgoing/incoming, but their voice calls are 10 cents or less a minute. 7-eleven SpeakOut texts are 5 cents each, but their voice calls are 15 cents per minute. I could use T-Mobile for voice and SpeakOut for texts using a dual-SIM card carrier and save a lot. Outside the US. Using an international SIM like ones from United Mobile or TravelSIM, you can roam, making phone calls at 30-40 cents a minute, depending on the exchange rate for the euro [calls are €0,29/min in many countries]. That's much cheaper than roaming on a US plan for $.49-2.99/min. In many countries incoming calls and SMS are free. However if you stay within a country for more than a few weeks, a local SIM is best for local calls. You can do both with a dual-SIM card carrier. Other list members like Chad or Bob can find this useful on their next trips. Mary--get a new phone next time you go back to France [and if there's a deal, get me one too]! Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone
You may have misplaced requirement. Few people enlarge greater than 4x6 for ordinary purposes, fewer still make prints at all from images created with their phones. The end-use of mobilphone images usually is screen-quality viewing, that standard is very much lower. Phone images are a convenient way to address that impulse, which comes mostly from capturing souvenir. If you wish to make display prints, you are indeed best advised to use a regular digital camera. --- On Fri, 9/5/08, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:32 AM OK but what about 5x7 or 8x10? They are still inadequate * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone
Palm T/X has wi-fi, bluetooth, sync for mac, and allows browsing the web. --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:51 PM Wifi will give you that ability. Palm I believe does not have Wifi and I do not think that Palm has a browser on their system. Palm's do work good with the Verizon. Stewart At 08:35 PM 9/4/2008, you wrote: ahhh,Richard. Thanks for that disappointing input. I guess. I had heard Nokias had clear sound but apparently that isn't the case? The Nokia E71 sounded great but it says you have to have Windows to sync. I'm on a Macno pc's left here any more. Any input on the Palm Centro? I'd have to give up WiFi but it does everything else I need and works with Mac.if it sounds reasonably clear I could live with it. Paula/IN/USA Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone
Not a feature, what's missing is unlocked universal use. Tied to ATT (same model overseas, tied to one carrier), the iPhone is useful only to those who wish to spend, rather than use. That's the problem, Tom. Betty is trying to get there without shackles. --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 3:28 PM Smartphone... (based on windowsCE otherwise termed PocketPC or WindowsMobile but mostly the same thing with editions of Word, Excel, Outlook, AdobeReader, etc. built in which are amazingly like the desktop apps with all the features and a similar or identical look and feel with file compatibility or automated conversion on sync)...lots of software some free to add on... Making a list like this and leaving out iPhone is hopelessly uninformed. The iPhone runs circles around the stodgy WinCE/PocketPC/WindowsMobile. So let's return to Betty's original question with some specificity. What features did you find missing from the iPhone? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone
$700 in the Czech Republic, without subscription. $690 in Britain. $628 in Germany. All the 8gb version. Could make sense, given the contract obligations here. --- On Wed, 9/3/08, maru ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: maru ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 9:58 PM On Sep 3, 2008, at 8:57 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: So why not buy your iPhone in the EU? I know they sell unlocked iPhones in several EU countries. Would you know off the top of your head which ones? Thanks! Mar * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] really bad references
Well, the islands quote may be yours, but John Kenneth Galbraith got there first in 1958, with his private splendor, public squalor remark in the Affluent Society. --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] really bad references To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 5:10 PM National security?? So little jonny can download more movies? Do you know what portion of the US GNP comes from movies? That is still a business the US dominates. Would you have us give up on that too? Are you rooting for that right-wing vision for America: islands of opulence surrounded by squalor? AKA: I got mine the hell with you. Who said that first? When I Google islands of opulence surrounded by squalor I get only one hit: me on this list, 2 months ago! Think I'll ever make Bartletts? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Amazon.com
Ditto. Three DVD's last week, no problems. Has anyone tried unsuccessfully placing orders at Amazon.com recently? I'm trying to order a few odds n ends but keep getting errors in Firefox and IE6 - for about two weeks now. I ordered two books yesterday, no problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga
Wow! Be sure to get AppleCare, if you are eligible. You'll have another three years of happiness. Chad --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 5:25 PM My 2003 vintage Macintosh 17 inch Powerbook G4, long out of warranty, suffered a failure. Took it to the Apple Store genius bar where I was impressed by the intelligent and helpful staff. I decided to go with the $310 flat-rate repair offer. They'll fix anything and everything wrong with the machine for one fixed price. Not a bad deal, I thought. Could even be the expensive logic board as the culprit, and replacing that on my own would be a lot more than the $310 Apple would charge, along with fixing a couple of other things I told them to look at while they had it. Turned out to be the logic board after all. The problem was that a replacement logic board was not going to be available in the short term. In fact, the date of availability of a replacement board was indeterminate. Apple's solution? We have some very nice new models that you might be interested in buying...NOT!! Apple's actual solution? Here is a nice, new, latest and greatest MacBook Pro, 17 inch, 2.5 GHz, 2 gig of memory with a 250 gig hard drive and a Super Drive for you. They are even sending my broken machine back so that I can get data off the hard drive. An awesome outcome is about all I can say about it. Best of all, I didn't have to do any cajoling or arguing or anything like that. Apple simply said, We can't provide you with a speedy repair, so here is what we can offer you as an alternative, if you so choose. Apple, Inc., gets my vote this week as Best Bestower of Happiness. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
