Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Louis Crossing
On 14 October 2015 at 10:50, Steve Dudenhoeffer wrote: > I run around 700 csgo servers. umm, why? lol Are you reselling them or something? ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread mastershin
When this change comes into effect we will be limited to 50 game servers per steam account. As for improvements, i'm not too sure.. if a server is breaking the rules Valve can easily ban it? I think someone else would be better for this bit lol bryananderson wrote > I assume there is no limit on

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
This has no impact on updating. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:21 AM, ics wrote: > No, i'm more interested if we can still update servers without logging > into an account (use anonymous login). > > -ics > > Louis Crossing kirjoitti: > >> >> On 14 October 2015 at 13:03, ics

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Jack M.
I can't confirm this but I think as long as you have sv_setsteamaccount set with a valid ID in your configs when the server runs you won't need to change you method of updating your servers since the idea is to check at run time if your server is blacklisted or not. Not at the time of update.

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
Perhaps a good compromise would be non-VoIP number *or* Steam level restriction? On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Daniel Barreiro < smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com> wrote: > Potentially limit the amount of phone changes you can have between numbers > considered VOIP numbers. Honestly it's a hard

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Daniel Barreiro
A single phone number can be used on two Steam accounts last I checked. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:16 PM, zAfLu - Dennis wrote: > Is it possible to link a phone number twice? Because i have a standalone > server steam account (because of security reasons) but only one

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread zAfLu - Dennis
OK fyi: Using the same phone number on 2 accounts is not working. "This phone number is already associated with a different Steam account. Adding this phone number to your account will remove its association from any other Steam account" So i need to buy a new phone/number to get server

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Bryan Anderson
Sounds like this is an update that both admins and players can really get hyped about. Do my credentials have to be stored, if so are my stored credential for automated updates secure? What is the reasoning behind limiting instance count? What benefits does this bring to players and admins?

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Louis Crossing
On 14 October 2015 at 13:03, ics wrote: > 1. TF2 allows anonymous logins on server updates - why wouldn't CSGO? That's already been answered. On 14 October 2015 at 09:37, Ido Magal wrote: > Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread ics
No, i'm more interested if we can still update servers without logging into an account (use anonymous login). -ics Louis Crossing kirjoitti: On 14 October 2015 at 13:03, ics > wrote: 1. TF2 allows anonymous logins on server updates - why

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Daniel Barreiro
Potentially limit the amount of phone changes you can have between numbers considered VOIP numbers. Honestly it's a hard issue. Getting a new VOIP number to create an alt to re-register servers is easy. Getting a new proper phone number is not quite as easy. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:55 PM,

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
The former. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Ejziponken - wrote: > Wait do I need one login token for each server up to 50? Or can one token > be used for 50 servers? > > -- > From: mc...@doctormckay.com > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:03:37 -0400 >

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread mastershin
It's one token per server if i've understood correctly -- View this message in context: http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Notice-of-changes-to-CS-GO-Game-Server-Operation-tp10261p10310.html Sent from the CSGO_Servers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Bryan Anderson
I assume there is no limit on CS:GO server instances per account? What improvements does this change bring? On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 7:33 PM, zAfLu - Dennis wrote: > My Server account own's csgo. And i know there shouldnt be a security > issue but for safety reasons :) > >

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Steve Dudenhoeffer
I run around 700 csgo servers. What an inconvenience. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 8:20 PM Ido Magal wrote: > Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation > -- > > *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens >

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread ics
Some questions: 1. TF2 allows anonymous logins on server updates - why wouldn't CSGO? 2. Does this help to get anymore benefits than having server logged in, things like actually having people to get operation drops from servers and gather xp instead of going to Valve servers? -ics Ido

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Louis Crossing
Oh, I misunderstood. That hadn't been confirmed. I would imagine so, just can't make the servers live without the auth. On 14 October 2015 at 13:21, ics wrote: > No, i'm more interested if we can still update servers without logging > into an account (use anonymous login). >

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Kevin C
It would be really nice if we could get some of the benefits that valve server has as a result of this change. Most notably XP gain. There is already a weekly cap on XP, why shouldn't I be able to earn it playing my servers? On 10/14/2015 1:03 AM, ics wrote: Some questions: 1. TF2 allows

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Ejziponken -
Wait do I need one login token for each server up to 50? Or can one token be used for 50 servers? From: mc...@doctormckay.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:03:37 -0400 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation Perhaps a good

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Absurd Minds
If he is, the person who buys it would just set the cvar themselves. On Oct 13, 2015 10:55 PM, "Louis Crossing" wrote: > > On 14 October 2015 at 10:50, Steve Dudenhoeffer > wrote: > >> I run around 700 csgo servers. > > > umm, why? lol > Are you

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread ics
Yes TF2 works like this, i can confirm that. I was just looking for confirmation so that the updating server doesn't require actual login, only running it. -ics Jack M. kirjoitti: I can't confirm this but I think as long as you have sv_setsteamaccount set with a valid ID in your configs when

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Daniel Barreiro
We're currently in stage 1, the announcement stage, so it wont work yet. Once they add the cvar I'm fairly sure that'll be the case On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Absurd Minds wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2015 9:36 PM, "Ido Magal" wrote: > > Q. So

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread zAfLu - Dennis
Is it possible to link a phone number twice? Because i have a standalone server steam account (because of security reasons) but only one phone number. Am 14.10.2015 um 03:37 schrieb Ido Magal: Q. What is the purpose of this update? A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Absurd Minds
On Oct 13, 2015 9:36 PM, "Ido Magal" wrote: > Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will we need BOTH keys now to use the workshop? > A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating a GSLT. It is no longer necessary. So my

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Jack M.
Notably also in the US certain carriers work with Google Voice. I know I can use my phone number via sprint but they have a partnership with Google Voice. I haven't tried it yet but that seems like it could also provide issue for some people. There needs to be a burner number protection. Valve

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
If your server Steam account doesn't own CS:GO, you won't be able to use it. Regardless, there shouldn't be any security issue with using a gameserver token from your personal account. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:16 PM, zAfLu - Dennis wrote: > Is it possible to link a

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread zAfLu - Dennis
Thanks :) Am 14.10.2015 um 04:17 schrieb Daniel Barreiro: A single phone number can be used on two Steam accounts last I checked. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:16 PM, zAfLu - Dennis > wrote: Is it possible to link a phone number twice?

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread zAfLu - Dennis
My Server account own's csgo. And i know there shouldnt be a security issue but for safety reasons :) Am 14.10.2015 um 04:18 schrieb Alexander Corn: If your server Steam account doesn't own CS:GO, you won't be able to use it. Regardless, there shouldn't be any security issue with using a

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Usman Khan
This is a great inconvenience for multiple server owners. Won't say more. On 14 Oct 2015 07:55, "Louis Crossing" wrote: > > On 14 October 2015 at 10:50, Steve Dudenhoeffer > wrote: > >> I run around 700 csgo servers. > > > umm, why? lol > Are you

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Kyle Sanderson
All major cell carriers (when you're on a business plan) in Canada offer you the ability to change your number within 5 minutes, an unlimited number of times. I doubt this is an exclusive feature for Canadian Telcos. Even going pre-paid and just burning numbers in the States would do the same

Re: [Csgo_servers] ERRORs on de_cbble

2015-10-13 Thread MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de
fresh install from steamcmd. im testing atm and delete again everything and will test it on a different machine. Am 13.10.2015 um 15:03 schrieb Geo B.: Did you triied fresh install from steamcmd or copied from a previous install ? 2015-10-13 14:45 GMT+02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de

Re: [Csgo_servers] ERRORs on de_cbble

2015-10-13 Thread MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de
yes, but it only happens if there are 3+ players on the server. -.- Am 13.10.2015 um 15:40 schrieb Geo B.: Do you have a big (i mean huge) "ERROR" on players models ? 2015-10-13 15:25 GMT+02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de

Re: [Csgo_servers] ERRORs on de_cbble

2015-10-13 Thread Geo B.
Did you triied fresh install from steamcmd or copied from a previous install ? 2015-10-13 14:45 GMT+02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de < mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de>: > Hey mates, > > i have a strange issue: > we downloaded several times and we install different vanilla servers, but > after

[Csgo_servers] ERRORs on de_cbble

2015-10-13 Thread MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de
Hey mates, i have a strange issue: we downloaded several times and we install different vanilla servers, but after the 3rd or 4th player connect, there are just errors instead of boxes and sometimes on models. What could be the reason? Any ideas? THX

Re: [Csgo_servers] ERRORs on de_cbble

2015-10-13 Thread Geo B.
Try this gamemodes_server.txt http://pastebin.com/XbitM0T4 2015-10-13 15:50 GMT+02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de < mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de>: > yes, but it only happens if there are 3+ players on the server. -.- > > > Am 13.10.2015 um 15:40 schrieb Geo B.: > > Do you have a big (i

Re: [Csgo_servers] ERRORs on de_cbble

2015-10-13 Thread MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de
thx. we will test it later and i will report! Am 13.10.2015 um 16:11 schrieb Geo B.: Try this gamemodes_server.txt http://pastebin.com/XbitM0T4 2015-10-13 15:50 GMT+02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de

[Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Ido Magal
Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens (GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration. This transition will happen in three stages: § Stage 1 [NOW]

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Daniel Barreiro
Is this why the CSGO GC is borked? On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Ido Magal wrote: > Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation > -- > > *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens > (GSLTs). *This is the

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Ryan Bentley
What is the purpose of this update? On Wednesday, 14 October 2015, Ido Magal wrote: > Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation > -- > > *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens > (GSLTs). *This is the

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Daniel Barreiro
I see the first requirement is: "Your Steam account must not be community banned or locked" Is this just to generate the token, or if this occurs will the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place? On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Daniel Barreiro < smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com>

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
Why is this to be required? This will greatly inconvenience or put out of business GSPs and people who run more than 50 servers. Note that the 50-server limit is Steam-wide, not specific to CS:GO. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Ido Magal wrote: > Notice of changes to

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Ryan Bentley
It appears we also need to provide a valid phone number during the process. What is the goal behind this change? On Wednesday, 14 October 2015, Absurd Minds wrote: > So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO? > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:21 PM,

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Absurd Minds
I didn't need to provide a phone number. I generated one token without it. But will I need multiple tokens, one per each server? I'm glad I don't run a large community! On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ryan Bentley wrote: > It appears we also need to provide a valid phone

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
Yes. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Absurd Minds wrote: > Wait, I need a unique token PER server? > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Alexander Corn > wrote: > >> Why is this to be required? This will greatly inconvenience or put out of >>

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Nicholas Hastings
What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after stage three? No players can join at all? No GC connection (thus no items)? or just delisted from the master server? Due to the new phone number restriction on the API, I am unable to register an account. If it just blocks from

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread iNilo
For anyone asking what this does: This is what it does for TF2: Source : http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=12360 - Added the server command "sv_setsteamaccount" for logging in with a persistent game server account using a login token. Login tokens may be acquired via the

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Absurd Minds
I think the webapi key does something different. This token you are generating today is just to be placed in the server config file. It means that if I add your server to my favorites, but then you change your server to a new IP address, it will automatically update in my favorites list without

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
The email says that this will be required in the future. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Absurd Minds wrote: > I think the webapi key does something different. This token you are > generating today is just to be placed in the server config file. It means > that if I

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread ham5
these new tokens should supersede the old wepapi key is what I'm getting at... we should only need this newer one imo! -- View this message in context: http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Notice-of-changes-to-CS-GO-Game-Server-Operation-tp10261p10287.html Sent from the CSGO_Servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Absurd Minds
Oh yeah, some how I missed the huge bold part and went right to the bullets. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Alexander Corn wrote: > The email says that this will be required in the future. > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Absurd Minds >

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
This change wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for 4 things: 1. Steam is garbage and from time to time has been known to reject perfectly valid login tokens 2. Drop the requirement of a linked phone number; buying the game should be enough of a requirement 3. Increase the limit from 50 servers to

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Nicolas Poublon
Or you know, force the people renting the steam server to enter their own token somewhere so they're held accountable for their actions and not you. On 14/10/2015 12:22 PM, Alexander Corn wrote: This change wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for 4 things: 1. Steam is garbage and from time to

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
Who said anything about renting servers out? On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Nicolas Poublon wrote: > Or you know, force the people renting the steam server to enter their own > token somewhere so they're held accountable for their actions and not you. > > > On 14/10/2015

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Jack M.
"Or you know, force the people renting the steam server to enter their own token somewhere so they're held accountable for their actions and not you." This is more than likely what would ideally happen. It isn't the host fault that someone uploads some BS sourcemod plugin that is against Valves

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Левинчук Федор
Hi Ido 2 questions: 1) when update will be available?2) do you have plans of posting servers update changelog to this list in future? like it was before? :)   14.10.2015, 10:21, "Ido Magal" :Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server OperationCS:GO dedicated servers will soon

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Ido Magal
Q. What is the purpose of this update? A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some time now. Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the current IP banning method has on their operation has made this more urgent since with this feature we'll also be able to

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Daniel Barreiro
Pretty much On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Jack M. < catastropheproductions...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Or you know, force the people renting the steam server to enter their > own token somewhere so they're held accountable for their actions and not > you." > > This is more than likely what would

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
>Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up? >A. Fixed. Thanks! Is there any way you can address my other points? Specifically the ability to login anonymously without being listed on the server browser. That will be the same effect as an IP blacklist, but players would be able to join

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Alexander Corn
Oh, sorry for double-posting but is there any chance that we can get SteamIDs listed on that management page? It's a bit bulky to manage servers by token. Also, can you add a form to change the memo associated with an account? On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Alexander Corn

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Nicholas Hastings
Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now? A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently non-qualifying. I urge you to rethink this, at least for some cases. For me and I'm sure at least some others,

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

2015-10-13 Thread Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek
German Telekom (the main ISP in Germany) recently switched all landlines to voip. On 14.10.2015 03:55, Nicholas Hastings wrote: Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now? A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner