Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-07-18 00:45:07 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But would the GOAT smoke it or eat it? Or wear it, or use it as fuel, or feed cattle with it, or apply it as fertilizer? -- if it's HEMP we're talking about here. Sure would, if not for Big Oil's anti-hemp conspiracy. (While honeymooning in Kauai a decade ago, I met the "Luther Burbank of Hawaii" who was working to save the state's economy from profitless dependence on the sugar crop by growing fields of the Chinese tallow plant, whose berry resin substitutes for petroleum and whose components can be used for a variety of things, as is the case with hemp.) But if you're referring to the psychoactive Cannabis: been there, done that -- just as the Goat, if it really matters, has already "been there, done that" with regard to many other frequently* productive avenues of de-conditioning one's culturally and idiosycratically conditioned frame of reference -- besides psychedelics, hypnosis (a field of thorough research and even teaching for awhile in the early '70s, and a few times called in to advise others in "deprogramming"), biofeedback (briefly a "star" test subject for "alpha" expert Dr Joe Kamiya at Langley Porter Neruropsychiatric Institute at UCSF Med Center here in San Francisco), sensory deprivation (once did 8 hours straight in a Lilly tank -- rather boring), Jungian "Creative Imagination" (a technique for evoking "archetypes," often with profound reactions from the unconscious), "self-actualization"-oriented group therapy (rose to de facto "facilitator" in one group in Chicago; once intended to become a psychotherapist, before abandoning the field in disgust in 1991, only 11 units short of a degree), lucid dreaming (toward mapping the mechanism of "reality simulation" in dreams), astrology (focusing on the correlation between long-term outer-planet cycles and recurring themes in history; responsible in 1972 for the first 3000-year outer-planet ephemeris, computerized from elements provided by the US Naval Weapons Research Lab in Maryland) ... along with a variety of spiritual exercises (from Christianity [almost became a priest], Kabbalah and Sufism, martial arts, Zen, Taoism, Tantra, Kundalini yoga, the Gurdjieff Work, "ceremonial magic," etc) to one degree or another, in my own heuristic fashion -- all in the interests of greater (dual-hemispheric, figure AND ground) CONSCIOUSNESS without any "unconscious." And all this, mind you, before the formation of the modern "New Age" marketplace, before many (?) of CTRL's subscribers were even born ... But I take your comment as HUMOROUS in nature, and I'm chortling too at the thought of anyone taking the word of the Goat --here just one voice out of many, mind you, and a grumpy old fart's voice much of the time-- TOO seriously. Use your own judgment, "Question authority," and "Trust no one," not even ME. Apply your own mind to weigh the truth (or probability of truth) or falsehood of what is said -- never mind WHO said it. (Hopefully a broad base of knowledge plus my experience counts for _something_, but even that's no guarantee of "truth" -- often with people I find that a so-called "lifetime of experience" is in actuality only a few years of experience defended across a lifetime ...) "If you meet the Buddha on the road, KILL him." Figuratively speaking, that's the only appropriate thing to do. So if anyone puts the GOAT on a pedestal -- Roast the Goat! _ *This should not be considered an ENDORSEMENT of ANYONE doing ANYTHING without certain provisos specific to individual characteristics, motives, legalities, etc DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] MK-ULTRA Film (Horror Fiction)
-Caveat Lector- Saw an eerie video last night, with a "subtext" that should raise goose bumps in those wondering about MK-ULTRA or "Satanic" "mind controlled" assassins and sex-slaves. This horror film has its own "cover story" explaining "why" what's going on is going on, but if one dismisses that as a plot device, and if one just studies the psychology and behavior of the characters, there's a verisimiltude there, with gems of fact snuck in ... It's "The Night of the Hunted" (French "La nuit des traquees") by director Jean Rollin (best known for his "vampire" stuff), 1980, unrated (look beyond its "gratuitous" sex and violence.), distributed by Image Entertainment (http://www.image-entertainment.com) Joe Bob Goat says "Check it out" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?
-Caveat Lector- If any one finds out if it is true he was going to run against Hillary in NY, please let us know pronto. We must watch developments closely as they changed from day to day in the Columbine incident. Amelia - Original Message - From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 1999 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately? -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-07-17 14:57:03 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it DOES seem more than a tad coincidental that he would disappear in roughly the same area that TWA800 went down, three years to the day of that tragedy... And 30 years to the day after Chappaquiddick. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Amelia Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any one finds out if it is true he was going to run against Hillary in NY, please let us know pronto. We must watch devel- opments closely as they changed from day to day in the Columbine incident. Also watch to see if anyone manufactures 'evidence' of such a run. - Original Message - From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it DOES seem more than a tad coincidental that he would disappear in roughly the same area that TWA800 went down, three years to the day of that tragedy... And 30 years to the day after Chappaquiddick. Sorry, not "to the day": MJK died on 18 July 1969; TWA 800 blew on 17 July 1996. JFK Jr. augured-in on 16 July 1999; Close, but no cigar. Today in History for Sunday, Jul 18 In 1938, pilot Douglas Corrigan earned the nickname "Wrong Way" when he landed in Ireland instead of California after a flight from New York. In 1977, Vietnam was admitted to the United Nations. In 1969, a car driven by Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., plunged into a pond on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts, killing his passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne. In 1984, a gunman opened fire at a McDonald's restaurant in San Ysidro, Calif., killing 21 people. In 1992, youths rampaged for a second night in southwest England following the deaths of two young men on a stolen police motorcycle. In 1994, a car bombing in Buenos Aires, Argentina, killed some 100 people in or near a building that housed Jewish organizations. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric * ICQ# 19633976 * * *** SkeptiChat: sliding down the razor-blade of life *** now featuring SkeptiNews: All The News That's Fit To Question email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Das GOAT wrote: But it DOES seem more than a tad coincidental that he would disappear in roughly the same area that TWA800 went down, three years to the day of that tragedy... And 30 years to the day after Chappaquiddick. Well actually, one day off...but close enough... When I first heard the story about the plane being missing, I wondered that perhaps in a few hours John-John would come sopping-wet into some convenience store ont he Vineyard, claiming to have just swum to shore from his downed plane...and that inside the plane would be found the body of a woman who wasn't his wife But it would seem he WAS traveling with his wife and sister-in-law... But now the current version has it that it would seem he went down relatively close to the Vineyardstrange, what with all the people they now have out there searching, both private and military, that they can't seem to find any trace of the plane in relatively shallow water... not even an oil slick My gut feeling is saying that they'll never be found...or, that if anything is 'found', it'll be at least a week or two from now, perhaps longer...and what will be found will raise more questions than it answers... Yes, there will be 3 bodies on board, but decomposed and eaten by fish enough to effectively be unrecognizable... But perhaps I'll be proven wrong, and they'll find the plane today... But I'm still wondering why he never radioed the Vineyard airport of his approach and intending to land...especially if he missed the approach and was circling around to make a 2nd attempt, as the fisherman is reported to have seen... June *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Amelia Edgeman wrote: If any one finds out if it is true he was going to run against Hillary in NY, please let us know pronto. We must watch developments closely as they changed from day to day in the Columbine incident. I heard something to the effect that he may have been considering a run for the mayor's office, but not state senator But that may have been enough, if he wasn't someone who was going to solidly endorse Clinton's bid for the senate seat...his silence regarding her, especially considering the amount of press HE would get while running for the mayor's office, could have been enough to derail her plans... June ;-) *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Das GOAT wrote: But it DOES seem more than a tad coincidental that he would disappear in roughly the same area that TWA800 went down, three years to the day of that tragedy... And 30 years to the day after Chappaquiddick. Well actually, one day off...but close enough... No, that's TWO days off: MJK died on 18 July 1969; TWA 800 blew on 17 July 1996. JFK Jr. augured-in on 16 July 1999; Close, but no cigar. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1
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# Air Search Resumes For JFK Jr. HYANNISPORT, Mass. (Reuters) An air search
resumed at daybreak Sunday over the Atlantic Ocean for John F Kennedy Jr,
his wife and her sister, missing and feared dead in a plane crash the
latest tragedy to befall America's most famous political dynasty.
http://news.excite.com/news/r/990718/07/news-kennedy-leadall
# Pope Prays For JFK Jr., Recalls Kennedy Tragedies. QUART, Italy (Reuters)
Pope John Paul prayed Sunday for John F Kennedy Jr when he heard of the
plane crash presumed to have killed him and recalled a string of tragedies
that have plagued America's first political family.
http://news.excite.com/news/r/990718/07/news-kennedy-pope
: 18 July 1969: Chappaquiddick. 17 July 1996: TWA-800. 16 July 1999: JFK Jr.
What's the link? Why the proximity to Montauk? Dead Kennedys: Joseph, John,
Robert, John Jr. What's the link? Is a dark Protestant god annihilating the
potent followers of a bright Catholic god? Is {JHWH} striking down powerful
worshippers of Virgin Mary? Are Reptilioids feeding on Kennedy karma? Or was
JFK Jr. struck down to stop him from running for the Senate against Hillary?
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# China Sentences Sect Leader To Death. HONG KONG (Reuters) A Chinese court
has sentenced the leader of a Christian sect to death for swindling fellow
sect members. Liu Jia-guo, 34, leader of the Jusen sect in Hunan province,
was convicted of stealing up to 200,000 yuan ($24,200) collected from sect
members over 5 years. China has convicted 21 other Jusen members over the
past year, sentencing them to jail terms of between two and 20 years. At
least 40 other sect members were sent to labor camps without trial. Liu
became a Protestant in 1988 and founded Jusen in 1993 in Hunan. The sect
now has 20,000 members in 20 provinces; they call for building a "God's
country" and doing away with a "people's country". Following a national
conference, Liu and 70 other sect members were arrested in June 1998 for
"subversion." http://www.insidechina.com/news.php3?id=78968
: Should you be executed for stealing US$25k? Has your sect subverted any
states lately? Are all Protestants subversive? Is all religion subversive?
Would you rather build God's Country, mow crop circles, or mate with aliens?
Does your sect have many members? Do you all mate with aliens or each other?
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# Brain structure abnormalities seen in autism patients. NEW YORK (Reuters)
High-functioning autistic individuals seem to have a specific variation in
the brain that may account for emotional and social learning impairments
associated with autism. Researchers found anomalies around the amygdala,
an almond-sized structure located deep in the brain that plays a role in
emotion and mood. "We found a specific brain area that seems to be quite
different anatomically." But "it's not the amygdala that is different,
it's the pathways in or out that are different." These findings "indicate
that even those people with autism who are really quite (high-functioning)
have brains that are really quite different." Autism is a mental disorder
characterized by extreme withdrawal and an inability to communicate or
relate to others. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990716/17/health-aut13
: Would you like to have your brain rewired? Would you like to rewire other
peoples' brains? Can you shift the pathways in and out of brain structures
to make people do interesting things? What's your favorite brain structure?
Do you like experimenting with brains? Do you collect them? Can I play too?
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@ Ten Ways You Can Help The UFO Cover-up Continue. 1) First but foremost,
don't talk about the subject! 2) Don't join any organizations that purport
to actively study the UFO mystery. 3) Don't read any book or publication
about UFO's. 4) Never question anybody important in public about the UFO
subject or about the paranormal. 5) If you ever hear anyone talking about
the UFO subject or the paranormal, point your finger at `em and burst out
laughing. 6) Attempt to keep any and all discussion of UFO or paranormal
subjects out of public and private schools. 7) Ridicule anything you read
in the press, or any comments favorable to the study of the UFO subject or
the paranormal by broadcast media. 8) If you know someone who purports to
have had a "close encounter" experience, convince `em that there is just a
little problem with their brains. 9) Get religion - join a religion that
will make you feel bad about your UFO or paranormal experiences. 10) Just
call up one of your buddies in CSICOP
Re: [CTRL] Das GOAT's biography
-Caveat Lector- Yes, DG, I meant that humorously; I've seen a few goats in my time I've seen what they can do to a garden. And I've got you beat: I quit grad school in disgust with 6 credits to go for my M.A. in English. Brown-nosing and back-stabbing aren't my style (front-stabbing is another story), but what did it for me was student teaching. The first time I graded papers for an English 101 class, the basic writing class that all college students take, I was told 2 things: do NOT correct spelling, grammatical, or punctuation mistakes, because I would hinder the students' creativity; and do NOT give any grade lower than a B because I would hurt the students' self-esteem. My mentor teacher then told her students that I was an "intellectual snob" because I did my undergrad work at an Ivy League college (actually 2nd tier; the only Ivy I applied to was Penn, I was accepted but the financial aid package was not enough). So if you wonder why Johnny with the college degree can't read, you know why. And congratulations on being the first person I've ever heard use the word "heuristic" outside of the classroom. and a grumpy old fart's voice much of the time Jon Winokur call this type of person a "curmudgeon" and means it quite complimentarily. Mencken and Bierce were curmudgeons. And I promise not to do anything you wouldn't do! ;-D Tenorlove who will only admit to being over 21, so is probably one of the older members of the list _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/17/1999 11:53:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, did he? Does anyone read George? Or hear of any articles about to come-out therein? Just now listening to Kissinger who sez he met with their Editorial Board lately...?? Why would MSNBC go to Kissinger about the tragedy? My own thought on hearing about the missing plane was, "Must have had an empty tank where a spark caused ..." Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] It Was Aliens
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hyperion Systems) wrote: In article 7mqk5c$129$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Schnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With this posting, I think I'm the first to claim publicly that JFK's plane was shot down by a UFO. I have to do this because, if I don't, someone else will. Oh brother. Everyone knows it was the Mafia. Possibilities: 1) X-wave experiments at Montauk went wild, same as with TWA-800. 2) Navy missile tests off Long Island went awry, as with TWA-800. 3) PLO assassins targeted the wrong plane again, as with TWA-800. 4) The ghost of Mary Jane Kopechne arose from the dead for revenge. 5) Vengeful Protestant god blasted another favorite of Virgin Mary. 6) All-devouring Poseidon reached out for reasons unknowable to us. 7) Clinton moved to prevent JFK Jr. / Jesse Jackson Jr. alliance. 8) Clinton moved to prevent JFK Jr. challenge to Hillary campaign. 9) JFK Jr. suicided as flesh-eating bacteria devoured his brain. A) JFK Jr. suicided as Carolyn learned of affair with Lauren. B) Autopilot failed at climax of John-Carolyn-Lauren 3-way. C) Lauren was targetted because of shady financial dealings. D) Carolyn was targetted after crossing ex-boss Calvin Klein. E) John was targetted for not collaborating with Rupert Murdoch. F) All were targeted for not switching to ATT Long Distance. * Reality is whatever bites your ass * http://i.am/nutz * DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/17/1999 2:57:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The horror of the middle passage...the packing of human beings into the holds of ships...much of the misery associated with American-style slavery was a direct result of the American interest in profitability. Interesting isn't it. Slavery and other disgusting institutions aside, it's this very same interest in "profitability" that has changed this country into the freakish, controlling oligarchy it has become. I guess history teaches us nothing. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JFK JR: Explosion Out to Sea from the Beach
-Caveat Lector- Listening to MSNBC, I heard a NBC employee, I think, state that he was on the Beach at 10:00 pm, near where the debris is washing-up, and heard a big explosion over the ocean? Anyone else hear this! ! *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] It Was Aliens
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, ric carter wrote: 1) X-wave experiments at Montauk went wild, same as with TWA-800. 2) Navy missile tests off Long Island went awry, as with TWA-800. 3) PLO assassins targeted the wrong plane again, as with TWA-800. 4) The ghost of Mary Jane Kopechne arose from the dead for revenge. Her name was Mary JO, not Mary Jane, and one would think she'd go after Ted's own kids, not his nephew... 8) Clinton moved to prevent JFK Jr. challenge to Hillary campaign. Is this just rumor, or was he in fact considering running against Clinton for NY's senate seat? June ;-) *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK JR: Explosion Out to Sea from the Beach
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Lloyd Miller wrote: Listening to MSNBC, I heard a NBC employee, I think, state that he was on the Beach at 10:00 pm, near where the debris is washing-up, and heard a big explosion over the ocean? Yesterday they quoted a fisherman who was in the area on Friday night, reporting he saw a small plane circling about 40 feet over the water, making an approach the fisherman claimed was common for pilots who missed the approach on their first trythe fisherman then supposedly said the plane 'disappeared', and the MSNBC reporter made it a point to state that the fisherman stated 'without a sound'... The 'big explosion' reports only started being made late yesterday afternoon...strange, since for hours people were wondering where Kennedy may have gone down, one would think that all these people who heard an explosion the night before would have been coming forward well before late Saturday afternoon to report what they'd heard... As with TWA800, I suspect the earliest reports probably are more accurate, and what we hear reported in the media as time goes by are being 'spin doctored'... On another note -- anyone know why Bill Clinton has been 'in seclusion at Camp David' all weekend? June :-7 *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] the good old days of laissez faire capitalism
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/17/1999 4:47:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" Written in the 20's wasn't it? And all we needed to bring back the "good old days" was GATT, NAFTA, and the "new world order." Thank you Reagan, Bush and (new Democrat) Clinton. Of course, "new Democrat" stands for "mostly Republican."We have a new form of government as well. I call it Corporatocracy.Charles Hurwitz invented our new motto. "He who has the gold rules." As for the rest of you little people, shut up and pay your taxes. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: New York Italians Texas Oil Men Gideon The Looking Glass
-Caveat Lector- What does this mean? Linda Minor If we remember correctly, his father's death was a combo intelligence machine, Italian and texas oil man deal. If the currency flip or technology transfer we are coming into after the next election is as big as I believe it is, particularly if the plan is to cold turkey the US and flip it to the legal model is underway, making sure there are no next generation seeds out there beyond machine control is a sound investment if you look at the world from the old world model. Most of the guys controlling these days are pretty old world. -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, July 17, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: New York Italians Texas Oil Men Gideon The Looking Glass DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Heads Up - UK TV
Heads - UP United Kingdom Terrestrial TV Programs Sunday 18th July 1999 All times are local time GMT === BBC 2 @ 18:45 hrs. Correspondent: BBC casts an investigative eye over the 'Free Papua Movement', and possibly other states in the area seeking independence. --- Channel 4 @ 19:00 hrs. Mission Impossible; The End Part 3 and last of this anniversary series of 30 years ago. Lost lives, the Cold War and Apollo 13 threaten to bring lunar exploration to a standstill. --- BBC 2 @ 20:00 hrs The Mayfair Set;(The start of a new series) 1) Col. David Stirling. This series tracks four (shadowy) millionaires from their gambling clubs in London's 'Mayfair' district - they tried to run Britain the way they wanted to see it run - and not necessarily by the elected government. Tonight we begin with Col. David Stirling, seen by one Arab as "a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and a modern mercenary" in his dealings with Middle East. After WWII, Stirling longed to see Britain great again and founded his own group of fighters - the SAS - to give covert help to countries he considered to be allies when they were threatened with foreign invasion (their words), [not to mention domestic dissent (my words)]. His efforts paid off - Arab money poured into Britain. But the bonanza was not to last ... -- Channel 4 @ 20:00 hrs. Far Out; (The start of a new series) This look at the 'hidden history of New Age Britain' might through up some interesting nuggets. Of course Witchcraft is an ancient form of New Ageism and 'good' witches working with medicinal herbs, are still very much among us. One old West Country Gentleman can still recall villagers sticking pins into a doll and chanting "Go away ... Get lost", which he claims, seemed to work. The history of communes formed by the forerunners of the hippies anxious to get out of the industrial slums. And a look at the pull of Theosophy and of evangelical Eastern Mystics who, in the depressed Thirties, founded hugely successful missions in Britain. -- Channel 3 (ITV) @ 10:45 hrs 2000 Years; (of Christianity) Part 14 of 20 Tonight Melvyn Bragg looks at the anti-semitism and christianity in the 14th century, when the papacy moved to Avignon in France and the black death swept through Europe. -- Channel 4 @ 14:15 hrs 2001: A Space Odyssey; Stanley Kubricks science-fiction masterwork of epic proportions. -- +++END+++
[CTRL] Fwd: Death of The Corporation - TiM GW Bulletin 99/7-1 (7/17/99)
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA Thought you may be interested in this report on global business trends and strategies. The Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletin, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org, the "TiM GW Bulletins" section, which contains the graphs and other images which go with it (http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins99/tim99-7-1.html). - Truth in Media's GLOBAL WATCH Bulletin 99/7-1 17-Jul-99 - Topic: GLOBAL AFFAIRS -- Strategy Guru Announces Death of Progress, Fails to See the Looming DEATH OF THE CORPORATION There Is No Business Like Show Business: The Hamel Show -- Editors Foreword About This Special TiM GW Bulletin on Global Business Trends: Even by its sheer length (15 pages, 7,500 words) you can see that this is no ordinary Annex Bulletin. Nor is it ordinary by the breadth of the global business trends and strategies which this Special Bulletin covers. They span a 20 year-period of our industry analysis and research. Despite the weighty topics, we tried to write it in our usual, easy-to-read style. But it will be far from easy reading. It will require careful attention to detail, and a solid grasp of business and technology trends. As always, do let us know if you have any comments or questions. Happy reading! Bob Dj. -- BOSTON, July 13 - There is no business like show business, they say. And Gary Hamel is certainly in the show business. He proved that with an outstanding shtick - the opening keynote speech on June 12 at the CSC Exchange executive business conference, here in Boston, MA. The Hamel Show had drama, laughs, sex, intrigue all necessary ingredients for a successful entertainer. But it also had lots of food for thought, not a typical element of todays media shows. What The Hamel Show didnt deliver, however, is a clear vision of the future. And no wonder. As Winston Churchill once said, I never like to prophesy about the future. It is a much better policy to prophesy about events which have already taken place. We dont know how much of Churchills writing Hamel has read, but he certainly practices his advice. You wont find any forecasts at his Web site. Nor did he stick his neck out during his shtick. Hamel kicked off his speech with a dramatic announcement that, the age of progress is over. The progress which started in the Renaissance days, is now dying in the closing days of the century. By progress, Hamel meant, of course, the industrial era. But by a clever substitution of the two terms, he produced the desired goal of every performer - grab the audiences attention early. It was at this moment that this writer realized that he was attending a show, not a lecture. Because Hamel had just sacrificed accuracy for effect. A real scientist, lecturer or a strategy guru would never have stooped that low. True, the show must go on, even in the world of academia, but only if the integrity of facts and opinions is preserved. So what was wrong with Hamels startling intro-bomb? It went off late. Way too late, especially for someone billed as a strategy guru. The industrial era, or progress as he put it, has been dying for about three decades now, not just in the closing days of the century. Weve said in a number of Annex Research reports and executive workshops, some going all the way back to1983, that Corporate Americas downsizing was merely a symptom of the industrial eras mortal agony. Weve pointed out many times, for example, that the Fortune 500 employment peaked in 1969 as percent of the total U.S. jobs. And that it crested out in absolute terms in 1979 - 20 years ago. The number of Annex Bulletins and workshop slides which cited these trends over years is to be referenced here individually. But you can easily check out our comment to that effect from the Mar. 8, 1996 issue of the New York Times, for example, which was also included in the subsequently published Times book, The Downsizing of America (Random House, 1996). But even if Hamel doesnt read the Times, or if he has missed this writers quotes in the business media about the earlier deaths of his progress, there is no excuse for any so-called strategy guru not to have read the 1979 book, the Third Wave, by Alvin Toffler. Two years before the IBM PC was born, and one year after Hamel quit his medical administrator job to study international business at the University of Michigan, Toffler spelled out with uncanny precision the various reasons why
Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?
-Caveat Lector- Close enough for gummit work! AKE - Original Message - From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately? -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Das GOAT wrote: But it DOES seem more than a tad coincidental that he would disappear in roughly the same area that TWA800 went down, three years to the day of that tragedy... And 30 years to the day after Chappaquiddick. Well actually, one day off...but close enough... No, that's TWO days off: MJK died on 18 July 1969; TWA 800 blew on 17 July 1996. JFK Jr. augured-in on 16 July 1999; Close, but no cigar. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Told Ya So! re: Kennedy] American Reporter may have been warned (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- the warning could have been from Sollog ? JFK Jr DIES IN PLANE CRASH as Sollog warned ! http://sollog.com/ MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: This was posted to the Society of Professional Journalists' list: AMERICAN REPORTER MAY HAVE BEEN WARNED OF ATTEMPT ON KENNEDYS by Joe Shea HOLLYWOOD -- The American Reporter may have received a tip about forthcoming tragedy among the Kennedys earlier this week, but its origin and meaning were impossible to verify at the time. [MORE] at http://www.american-reporter.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Death of The Corporation -
-Caveat Lector- Guess it's time for everyone to become Amway distributors. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990718b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Hey, SkeptiChat subscribers: let's see some responses, some discussion!! : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Some robots were severely corroded during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Pohnpei and the Curse of the Pacific. The late Spanish ufologist/crypto- archaeologist Andreas Faber Kaiser arranged visited the island of Ponapé (or Pohnpei, in local parlance) on a quest to unveil the mystery of Nan- Matol, a city hewn out of raw basalt, with magnificent harbors, streets, and habitation for tens of thousands, spreading out over ninety artificial islets. Natives shun the ruins, which have been reclaimed by the mangrove swamps, believing that the lost city is evil in nature and that those who remain beyond sundown in its interior never emerge alive. Non-Polynesian construction - see http://www.inexplicata.com/samples/pohnpei.html : Was Ponapé home to Lemurians; to a cannibalistic race of giants called the Kona; or to three distinct races of giants: a human-like species, capable of flight; a simian race of giants who could also fly, and lived beneath the sea; and a third strain of "megagiants", worker-drones who labored beneath the sea? Who are your favorite giants? Are they sexually active, cute, shy? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New space plane project takes off. (CNN) NASA and Boeing have agreed on a US$173 mln project to develop an experimental space plane called the X-37 to serve as a test bed for new reusable rocket technologies. Airplanes and rockets that get the X-designation are experimental, high-speed vehicles, but most of them are incapable of achieving orbits in outer space, re-ent- ering Earth's atmosphere and autonomous landings. The X-37 could achieve those feats and more. http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9907/15/space.plane/ @ Links: NASA Homepage: http://www.nasa.gov/ @ X-33: http://www.highway2space.com/stpweb/x33/index.html @ X-34: http://www.highway2space.com/stpweb/x34/x34home.html @ Boeing - Space Systems: http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/ @ Boeing - Future X: http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/futurex/ : Have you designed/built/bought any experimental aerospacecraft lately? Are they expensive? Is it cheaper to reverse-engineer alien technologies? Much? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # NASA's 'Star Wars' Robots. NASA is developing tennis ball-sized floating robots that will zoom around spacecrafts, acting as personal assistants to astronauts. Resembling a floating orb that tested Luke Skywalker's light- saber skills in Star Wars, NASA's personal satellite assistants, or PSAs, may buzz around spacecraft to monitor life-support systems, take pictures, and fixing minor problems. But what if they turn to the Dark Side of the Force? http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/20794.html # Also: Resident Robots, Take Two: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/15192.html # Good Bots, Bad Bots: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/14147.html : Would laser-armed PSAs be useful in zapping your enemies, clearing clogged plumbing, reheating cold coffee, lighting hookahs/hibachis, searing vermin? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ An Aeronautical History of Flying Saucers. The concept of "flying saucers" has become synonymous with that of UFO, and by extension to "extraterres- trial spacecraft." The truth is that these concepts are not necessarily related. Long before Kenneth Arnold initiated the modern age of the social phenomenon known as UFO, there were already "flying saucers" that had little in common with spacecraft from other planets. Back to Leonardo da Vinci: http://www.inexplicata.com/issue1/aeronautical_history.html : Are flying saucers from inner earth, outer space, other dimensions, human imagination, divine emissions, clever engineers, abstract realizations, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # FAA reviews in-flight prayer incident. DES MOINES, Iowa (UPI) The Federal Aviation Administration is probing an incident aboard an AccessAir flight that led to the removal of nine Muslim passengers, many of them doctors. AccessAir says the nine men were disruptive, but the men claim they were only trying to pray, and that crew members overreacted. Airline officials said the Muslim medical men stood before the plane reached a safe altitude and blocked the aisle, and that they were out of their assigned seats. In Allah's heart: http://news.excite.com/news/u/990717/15/news-passengerpray : Does your belief system require specific postures for prayer or other rit- uals? Do you assume the posture whenever necessary? Have you ever done your dervish dance on an escalator? Is it fun? Have you ever sacrificed a chicken or other animal while on an airplane, train, bus, jetski, skateboard, bike? _
[CTRL] News Manipulation Noted at NBC on Gun Issues
-Caveat Lector- News Manipulation Noted at NBC on Gun Issues Letters to Drudge 6/10/99 Nancy Shack Letter to "Drudge Report" -- posted on Letters to Drudge Dear Mr. Drudge, Howie Carr and The Howie Carr Show had an interesting experience with NBC's Nightly News with Tom Brokaw on Tuesday. NBC called us and asked if we would discuss the topic of the effect of the Littleton shootings on our listeners attitudes towards gun ownership. Lisa Myers had a piece scheduled for that nights news broadcast and she wanted popular reaction footage to complete her piece. We agreed. In the first hour of the show Howie asked the listeners how they were effected if at all while the NBC cameras rolled. We took 33 calls. 30 of those calls said the effect of the shootings was to make them want to own a gun for protection and not tighten up the laws. When the story aired on NBC that night Lisa Myers said that according to polls (which ones she never identified) and popular reactions on talk shows most people were in favor of stricter gun laws and were against gun ownership. She went on to play one of the 3 anti-gun phone calls from our show completely ignoring the 30 calls which did not agree with her premise. This manipulation and skewing of the actual poll results from our show has caused quite a stir among our listeners who were heard the gun hour and then witnessed the blatant misrepresentation of what the majority response was on NBC news. It has left much of our audience feeling mistrustful and angry with network news in general and NBC specifically. (By the way, this gun control feature led the news while China and the Cox report was buried 11minutes into the broadcast.) Thanks for letting us vent. Nancy Shack Executive Producer The Howie Carr Show DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Class Action Suit for AIDS Virus Manufacture
-Caveat Lector-
Class Action Suit for AIDS Virus Manufacture
Feb 23, 1999
Subject: CLASS ACTION SUIT - AIDS BIOENGINEERING-PLEASE READ AND SHARE
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:14:55 EST
AIDS BIOENGINEERING ON TRIAL
The issue of governmental involvement in the creation, production and
proliferation of the aids virus will be resolved in the Federal court in
the Northern District of Ohio before Federal Judge Lesley Brooks Wells. The
complaint (Graves v. Cohen [Secty. of Defense] 98 CV 2209) filed by Boyd E.
Graves on September 28, 1998 contains direct evidence of bioengineering,
including the Congressional Testimony of the Pentagon given on June 9, 1969
and July 1, 1969 before a U.S. House of Representatives Subcommittee.
"The Pentagon's testimony of June 9, 1969 leaves no reasonable doubt of the
absolute culpability of the government," remarked lead plaintiff, Boyd E.
(Ed) Graves to John Mangels, Medical Reporter for the Cleveland Plain
Dealer. "The overwhelming and substantial credible evidence will
sufficiently prove the government bioengineered the AIDS virus by
recombining a cow virus [bovine spongiform encephalomyelitis-Ed.] and a
sheep virus [visna virus-Ed.). The evidence will also show this recombined
agent was proliferated in the smallpox and hepatitis B vaccines. The
mathematical epidemiology of the AIDS virus proves a large number of
persons had to be simultaneously exposed.
Additionally, the epidemiological profile of the early AIDS virus in the
United States mirrors with remarkable similarity the epidemiological
profile of the Cohort Study Group of the Experimental hepatitis B vaccine
trials. No virus debilitates or kills with such precise selectivity,"
concludes Graves. An initial ruling to certify the Class [in the Class
Action-Ed..] is anticipated from the Judge. A tax-deductible fund is being
established through the Cleveland Plain Dealer (216-999-4659); Samuel W.
Black, Curator for African American History, the Western Reserve Historical
Society (216-721-5722); or Ronald G. Rooy, Executive Director, New Hope
Alternative Therapy Reserve (216-363-5060).
Another press release has been sent to me by Donald Scott, President of The
Common Cause Foundation to be shared with everyone. Please send both of
these to your local media and spread the word on the internet:
February 8, 1999 PRESS RELEASE 705-670-0180
INTERVENER STATUS SOUGHT BY CANADIAN FOUNDATION IN LANDMARK US AIDS CLASS
ACTION SUIT
Donald Scott, President of the Common Cause Foundation, has announced that
his organization will apply for intervener status in the class action
lawsuit against the US Government filed by Boyd E. Graves of Cleveland,
Ohio.
In the suit filed on September 28, 1998 before Federal Judge Lesley Brooks
Wells, the Plaintiffs allege that the U.S. Department of Defense was
involved in the "creation, production and proliferation of the AIDS virus".
The suit is based upon government documents obtained under the Freedom of
Information Act. The critical document is a record of Hearings held on June
9, 1969, between the Pentagon's top researcher, Dr. D.M. MacArthur, and
several U.S. House of Representative Congressmen. In those Hearings
MacArthur reveals that the Pentagon would produce "a new microorganism
which would be refractory to the human immune system" and for which "no
natural immunity could have ben acquired (AIDS)." Dr. MacArthur had
projected a 5 to 10 year time frame, and the first AIDS cases appeared
within that time.
"The historical documentary evidence and the scientific evidence is very
compelling that the U.S. Department of Defense did, indeed, develop the
AIDS virus as a biological weapon for strategic (ie population control)
purposes," says Scott. "The scientific evidence is equally strong," Scott
also suggests. "Beginning with an article in the November 26, 1987 issue of
Nature Magazine ("Characterization and molecular cloning of a bovine
lentivirus related to human immunodeficiency virus" by Matthew A. Gonda et
al) provides a solid basis for Mr. Graves' case," claims Scott. The article
Mr. Scott refers to states that the similarity between the HIV and the
bovine counterpart is so close that "sensitive type-specific assays will be
needed to discriminate between them."
Such solid scientifically based research has been under-reported and the
media has picked up on the most ill-founded "AIDS from monkeys" claims. The
Common Cause Foundation will offer the Class Action plaintiffs any help
that it has in bringing all historical and scientific data it possesses to
the attention of the Court.
http://www.trufax.org/hotmail/aids.html
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spread throughout the
[CTRL] OEN 7/18/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From The Time Machine by H. G. Wells The enemy I dreaded most may surprise you. It was the darkness of the new moon. Weena had put this into my head by some at first incomprehensible remarks about the Dark Nights. It was not now such a very difficult problem to guess what the coming Dark Nights might mean. The moon was on the wane: each night there was a longer interval of darkness. And I now understood to some slight degree at least the reason for the fear of the little Upper-Worlders for the dark. I wondered vaguely what foul villainy it might be that the Moorlocks did under the new moon. I felt pretty sure now that my second hypothesis was all wrong. The Upper-World people might once have been the favored aristocracy, and the Morlocks their mechanical servants: but that had long since passed away. The two species that had resulted from the evolution of man were sliding down towards, or had already arrived at, an altogether new relationship. The Eloi, like the Carlovingian kings, had decayed to a mere beautiful futility. They still possessed the earth on sufferance: since the Morlocks, subterranean for innumerable generations, had come at last to find the daylit surface intolerable. And the Morlocks made their garments, I inferred, and maintained them in their habitual needs, perhaps through the survival of an old habit of service. They did it as a standing horse paws with his foot, or as a man enjoys killing animals in sport: because ancient and departed necessities had impressed it on the organism. But, clearly the old order was in part reversed. The Nemesis of the delicate ones was creeping on apace. Ages ago, thousands of generations ago, man had thrust his brother man out of the ease and the sunshine. And now that brother was coming back--changed! Already the Eloi had begun to learn one old lesson anew. They were becoming reacquainted with Fear. And suddenly there came into my head the memory of the meat I had seen in the Under-world. It seemed odd how it floated into my mind . . . . . . These Eloi were mere fatted cattle, which the ant-like Morlocks preserved and preyed upon--probably saw to the breeding of. And there was Weena dancing at my side! = Apocalypse Now Will the "Big Bang" Machine Destroy the Earth? Creation of a black hole on Long Island? A NUCLEAR accelerator designed to replicate the Big Bang is under investigation by international physicists because of fears that it might cause "perturbations of the universe" that could destroy the Earth. One theory even suggests that it could create a black hole. Brookhaven National Laboratories (BNL), one of the American government's foremost research bodies, has spent eight years building its Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) on Long Island in New York state. A successful test-firing was held on Friday and the first nuclear collisions will take place in the autumn, building up to full power around the time of the millennium. Last week, however, John Marburger, Brookhaven's director, set up a committee of physicists to investigate whether the project could go disastrously wrong. It followed warnings by other physicists that there was a tiny but real risk that the machine, the most powerful of its kind in the world, had the power to create "strangelets" - a new type of matter made up of sub-atomic particles called "strange quarks". The committee is to examine the possibility that, once formed, strangelets might start an uncontrollable chain reaction that could convert anything they touched into more strange matter. The committee will also consider an alternative, although less likely, possibility that the colliding particles could achieve such a high density that they would form a mini black hole. In space, black holes are believed to generate intense gravitational fields that suck in all surrounding matter. The creation of one on Earth could be disastrous. Professor Bob Jaffe, director of the Centre for Theoretical Physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who is on the committee, said he believed the risk was tiny but could not be ruled out. "There have been fears that strange matter could alter the structure of anything nearby. The risk is exceedingly small but the probability of something unusual happening is not zero." Construction of the £350m RHIC machine started eight years ago and is almost complete. On Friday scientists sent the first beam of particles around the machine - but without attempting any collisions. Inside the collider, atoms of gold will be stripped of their outer electrons and pumped into one of two 2.4-mile circular tubes where powerful magnets will accelerate them to 99.9% of the speed of light. The ions in the two tubes will travel in opposite directions to increase the
Re: [CTRL] For Those Who Miss Collen-Bible Code
Hi, group, This is just for any of you on list who miss Colleen keeping you updated on the old sort of Bible codes--not the new computerized spread sheets-- The July 16 code of the one I have been following called for Mark 6 section on the beheading of JOHN the Baptist. Now isn't that interesting? Amelia
[CTRL] The Official Home of The REVOLUTION
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.the-revolution.org/ A HREF="http://www.the-revolution.org/"The Official Home of The REVOLUTION¬ /A Victory Over Horseshit! The Revolution® webzine (coming soon) = Introduction WELCOME to www.the-revolution.org, the official website of The Revolution®. The Revolution is a new political party that aims to be the voice of the non-voter, the alienated, the visionaries, the rabble, and the Internet. Combining left and libertarian politics with a kind of post-political futurism and the love of a good laugh, The Revolution® intends to bring all the subcultural tribes together to wrest control of worldwide political systems from the drug warriors, the cultural ayatollahs, and the various corporate mega-destructo gangs, ranging from the military-industrial complex to the HMOs ad infinitum. To get a full synthetic grasp of The Revolution® in its many multifaceted aspects, it is necessary to READ ALL THE DOCUMENTS IN THE " DOCUMENT" SECTION of this website. That's right. Go ahead, capture them. Print them out later. Read them on the bus while carrot juice dribbles out of the corner of your mouth and onto the pages. If you read them straight the first time, read them stoned the second time. If you read them stoned the first time, read them straight the second time. If you're always stoned, you may want to consider R.U. Sirius' law of mind alteration; "Getting high is only interesting in contrast to staying straight." But don't let me tell ya what to do. I'm just a presidential candidate. We want to infect all media with our meme, and we want to get in on the electoral process, before it disappears. So we will be attempting to get on ballots and running candidates for office, including my own candidacy for the President of the United States. Your votes are appreciated, but your contributions are even much more appreciated. GO TO THE VOLUNTEER SECTION AND GET INVOLVED! One way to stay involved is to SIGN ONTO OR LOG ON TO ONE OR MORE OF THE VARIOUS NETWORKING AND MAILING LISTS. Victory Over Horseshit, The Revolution® webzine is COMING SOON. This will be a combination of stuff that we generate ourselves, and stuff we think is relevant that we link to around the web. We hope to have lots of updates, so check back frequently. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ULYSSES S. GRANT AND THE C.I.A.
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.copvcia.com/nsl598.htm A HREF="http://www.copvcia.com/nsl598.htm"May '98/A - FROM THE WILDERNESS A monthly newsletter for those committed to the fight against CIA drug dealing "In a ham and eggs breakfast the chicken is involved and the pig is committed." © COPYRIGHT 1998, 1999, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. MICHAEL C. RUPPERT VOL. I, NO. 3 May, 17, 1998 ULYSSES S. GRANT AND THE C.I.A. In 1863, a full three years after the start of the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln was a very frustrated President. In those three years the 500,000 man Army of the Potomac had not engaged and followed through a major battle. Gettysburg was nowhere near the Union victory it could have been. Under the indecisive and self serving leadership of Generals Meade and McLellan the Army had maneuvered and lost a few minor battles to aggressive Confederate leaders like Stonewall Jackson. Lincoln even said out loud that all Meade and McLellan could do was accumulate things: men, horses, cannon, uniforms, food and power. Meanwhile, way out west, in Mississippi a drunken, disheveled reprobate named Grant was refusing to follow orders to sit and wait. While Meade and McLellan pos tured to increase their influence and prestige, Grant was out kicking butt. While Meade and McLellan feared making a mistake that might hurt their careers, Grant was taking risks. I had no idea when I started this newsletter and put up my web page how many people would try to tell me whom and whom not to trust. I had no idea that some might accuse me of trying to profit and live a good life from this horrible scandal. For the record, in the twenty years since I was forced out of LAPD, I have earned less than seventeen thousand dollars from this while having spent more than thirty. I live in a one-room studio apartment and drive an eleven-year-old car. The money for this newsletter and the web page came from my mother's trust fund. Thanks Mom. Celerino Castillo, one of the DEA witnesses to CIA drug dealing, who CIA wants badly to silence, lives in a house trailer and has trouble paying his phone bill. If others who are fighting are doing better then that's wonderful and it should be so. But I think I can speak for Cele, DEA veteran Mike Levine, Gary Webb and a few others dedicated to exposing CIA's role in the drug trade that none of us would put our personal welfare ahead of victory. And none of us would ever waste a moment to undercut a fighter who was in the trenches with us. In a moment you will read about former Special Forces troop Bill Tyree who is the nail in CIA's coffin. I am in possession of documents about Tyree and the CIA Watchtower missions, which are the hammer to drive that nail. As Bill Tyree fights for his life and puts the evidence necessary to hang CIA on a platter for us, he has been food poisoned three times and, as a possible pardon or a new trial for him becomes a possibility, his life is increasingly in danger. Stack that up against anyone trying to make a buck out of this and see which side you fall on. If I ever consider my welfare before the outcome of this struggle or if I ever speak ill of someone who is really fighting this fight then I invite all of you to kick my butt. In the meantime, remember that the bible offers a good rule by which to judge those who claim to be on our side, "By their fruits ye shall know them." Are so-called experts gathering information and doing nothing with it? Are they pointing only to themselves as leaders? Are they telling you to wait? Are they speaking against those who have risked their lives and fortunes? Logic will tell you whom to trust. When Lincoln promoted Grant over about fifteen senior Generals to take charge of all Union forces, respectable Washington demanded an explanation. Lincoln gave them one. "He fights." - Mike Ruppert MASSACHUSETTS COURT CASE HINTS AT MAJOR BREAK IN CIA DRUG STORY SIX ATTORNEYS REPRESENT AG AND LOCAL DA AFTER COMPLAINTS FILED BY FORMER GREEN BERET -- SPECIAL PROSECUTOR POSSIBLE DOCUMENTS ESTABLISH CIA INVOLVEMENT IN U.S. DRUGS, MURDER, EXTORTION - O.A.S. MAY REVIEW CASE A total of six attorneys showed up in a Massachusetts court room on April 29 to represent Massachusetts Attorney General Scott Harshbarger and Middlesex County DA Tom Riley against civil and criminal complaints filed by a former Green Beret who is serving a life sentence for the murder of his own wife. The complaints charge both men with receiving stolen property and with failing to comply with a ten year old order to return personal property taken from William Tyree when police searched his residence after the murder of Elaine Tyree in 1979. Both Tyree and his attorney, Ray Kohlman, an associate of James Earl Ray attorney William Pepper, claim that the property, if returned, would prove
[CTRL] Fwd: Kennedy Hit
This just in from Barry Chamish... Another Kennedy Hit??? by Barry Chamish Alright, it's early in the game, but the media is already telling us that John-John was a lousy pilot who lost his bearings. That his plane was too fast for his dull reflexes. etc. etc. This smells of prepared disinformation. That Kennedy fell on the 30th anniversary of Chappaquidick suggests a ritual murder. What was the motive? John Kennedy Jr., publisher of George Magazine, was quietly, or not so quietly, depending on the reader, exposing political conspiracies to the masses. He was the only publisher of a major American magazine, to publish a full report on the Rabin assassination conspiracy and to name Israel's Secret Services, the Shabak, as the perpetrator. This eight page article, purportedly written by the patsy Yigal Amir's mother Geula, was commissioned and ghost written by two Jerusalem-based writers, one of whom has impeccable credentials in Israeli left wing circles. Lately he was trying his best to get to the bottom of the George Wallace conspiracy of 1968, which knocked the former Alabama governor out of the Presidential race. Of interest was Wallace's exposure of America's hidden rulers throughout his campaign. Kennedy had just, personally, conducted long interviews with the aging Wallace, who spelled out his information on who was behind his shooting. Nosy, influential Kennedys, convinced the tragedies that befell kinsmen John, Robert and Edward were wide-ranging political hits, will develop mechanical problems in mid-flight.
Re: [CTRL] Class Action Suit for AIDS Virus Manufacture
-Caveat Lector-
Went To Common Cause Website and searched for this and
could find no records pertaining other than the hotmail link
you includedwhats UP? Ann Mcbride the president of
Common Cause during the time frame you are speaking of here,
and Donald Simon, not Donald Scott acting president July99.
Are you a member of the ASS press?
B
"Hilary A. Thomas" wrote:
-Caveat Lector-
Class Action Suit for AIDS Virus Manufacture
Feb 23, 1999
Subject: CLASS ACTION SUIT - AIDS BIOENGINEERING-PLEASE READ AND SHARE
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:14:55 EST
AIDS BIOENGINEERING ON TRIAL
The issue of governmental involvement in the creation, production and
proliferation of the aids virus will be resolved in the Federal court in
the Northern District of Ohio before Federal Judge Lesley Brooks Wells. The
complaint (Graves v. Cohen [Secty. of Defense] 98 CV 2209) filed by Boyd E.
Graves on September 28, 1998 contains direct evidence of bioengineering,
including the Congressional Testimony of the Pentagon given on June 9, 1969
and July 1, 1969 before a U.S. House of Representatives Subcommittee.
"The Pentagon's testimony of June 9, 1969 leaves no reasonable doubt of the
absolute culpability of the government," remarked lead plaintiff, Boyd E.
(Ed) Graves to John Mangels, Medical Reporter for the Cleveland Plain
Dealer. "The overwhelming and substantial credible evidence will
sufficiently prove the government bioengineered the AIDS virus by
recombining a cow virus [bovine spongiform encephalomyelitis-Ed.] and a
sheep virus [visna virus-Ed.). The evidence will also show this recombined
agent was proliferated in the smallpox and hepatitis B vaccines. The
mathematical epidemiology of the AIDS virus proves a large number of
persons had to be simultaneously exposed.
Additionally, the epidemiological profile of the early AIDS virus in the
United States mirrors with remarkable similarity the epidemiological
profile of the Cohort Study Group of the Experimental hepatitis B vaccine
trials. No virus debilitates or kills with such precise selectivity,"
concludes Graves. An initial ruling to certify the Class [in the Class
Action-Ed..] is anticipated from the Judge. A tax-deductible fund is being
established through the Cleveland Plain Dealer (216-999-4659); Samuel W.
Black, Curator for African American History, the Western Reserve Historical
Society (216-721-5722); or Ronald G. Rooy, Executive Director, New Hope
Alternative Therapy Reserve (216-363-5060).
Another press release has been sent to me by Donald Scott, President of The
Common Cause Foundation to be shared with everyone. Please send both of
these to your local media and spread the word on the internet:
February 8, 1999 PRESS RELEASE 705-670-0180
INTERVENER STATUS SOUGHT BY CANADIAN FOUNDATION IN LANDMARK US AIDS CLASS
ACTION SUIT
Donald Scott, President of the Common Cause Foundation, has announced that
his organization will apply for intervener status in the class action
lawsuit against the US Government filed by Boyd E. Graves of Cleveland,
Ohio.
In the suit filed on September 28, 1998 before Federal Judge Lesley Brooks
Wells, the Plaintiffs allege that the U.S. Department of Defense was
involved in the "creation, production and proliferation of the AIDS virus".
The suit is based upon government documents obtained under the Freedom of
Information Act. The critical document is a record of Hearings held on June
9, 1969, between the Pentagon's top researcher, Dr. D.M. MacArthur, and
several U.S. House of Representative Congressmen. In those Hearings
MacArthur reveals that the Pentagon would produce "a new microorganism
which would be refractory to the human immune system" and for which "no
natural immunity could have ben acquired (AIDS)." Dr. MacArthur had
projected a 5 to 10 year time frame, and the first AIDS cases appeared
within that time.
"The historical documentary evidence and the scientific evidence is very
compelling that the U.S. Department of Defense did, indeed, develop the
AIDS virus as a biological weapon for strategic (ie population control)
purposes," says Scott. "The scientific evidence is equally strong," Scott
also suggests. "Beginning with an article in the November 26, 1987 issue of
Nature Magazine ("Characterization and molecular cloning of a bovine
lentivirus related to human immunodeficiency virus" by Matthew A. Gonda et
al) provides a solid basis for Mr. Graves' case," claims Scott. The article
Mr. Scott refers to states that the similarity between the HIV and the
bovine counterpart is so close that "sensitive type-specific assays will be
needed to discriminate between them."
Such solid scientifically based research has been under-reported and the
media has picked up on the most ill-founded "AIDS from monkeys" claims. The
Common Cause Foundation will offer the Class Action plaintiffs any help
that it has in bringing all historical and scientific data it
Re: [CTRL] Class Action Suit for AIDS Virus Manufacture
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Class Action Suit for AIDS Virus Manufacture Date: Sunday, July 18, 1999 10:43 AM -Caveat Lector- Went To Common Cause Website and searched for this and could find no records pertaining other than the hotmail link you includedwhats UP? Ann Mcbride the president of Common Cause during the time frame you are speaking of here, and Donald Simon, not Donald Scott acting president July99. Are you a member of the ASS press? B Hi Bill, I'm a member of the local food co-op and that's about it. This piece was forwarded to me, but I didn't check the links. Thanks for doing so. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Kennedy Hit
-Caveat Lector- We are already being given a tremendous variance of John Jr.'s experience and ability as a pilot. I heard on MSNBC last night that he had 1500 hours flying time. Later, I have read/heard as low as 100 hours. Seems any mainstream reported could get the correct info easily. Why so many opinions and differences of his ability/experience? Obviously a conspiracy here. :) AKE - Original Message - From: (Charles Overbeck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 11:32 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Kennedy Hit This just in from Barry Chamish... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Latest Rivero TWA 800 Article
-Caveat Lector- www.newsmax.com "The Government Has Lied to Us About TWA 800" Michael Rivero July 10, 1999 Recent posts have celebrated the exoneration of Don Adams, who was acquitted of obviously trumped-up charges resulting from his anti-Clinton protests and the reaction of teamster thugs. It is well that we celebrate each and every triumph of justice in this nation, justice having become an increasingly endangered species in our society. Thus it is that I must again call your attention to the ongoing ordeal of James and Elizabeth Sanders, convicted of the theft of a swatch of fabric from the wreckage of TWA 800. They were prosecuted under an obscure law intended to deter souvenir hunters, and in one of the case's many bizarre twists, the FBI agent in charge of the TWA 800 investigation, James Kallstrom, also broke that same law. Kallstrom, as was reported in the newspapers and as he admitted to in court documents, removed an item from the wreck of TWA 800 to give away as a memento; the very act the law in question was written to deter. To be accurate, James and Elizabeth Sanders didn't steal anything. The actual removal of the fabric was done by TWA pilot and crash investigator Terrell Stacy. Stacy didn't want a souvenir. Neither did James Sanders. The fabric was sent to a lab for analysis of a strange red residue that tainted three rows of seats in the wreckage of the 747. Journalists are always exhorted to "check their facts." James Sanders did just that. The government stated, as a fact, that the red residue was 3M seat glue, and James Sanders checked that fact. In hindsight, he had good reason to. For such insolence, James Sanders and his wife were arrested, charged and convicted. Meanwhile, James Kallstrom, guilty of the same exact offense, walks free. Terrell Stacy, who actually broke the law in question, was charged with a misdemeanor. The Sanders have been convicted of a felony. The reason for the disparity in charges, between the man who took the fabric and the couple to whom that man gave it, is the government's desperation to lock the Sanderses away from the public; to bury with them the darkest of dark secrets in this whole affair. The results of the lab test on the Sanders' swatch of TWA 800 seat fabric called into question the official government declaration that the strange red residue was 3M seat glue. And evidence entered into the court record proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the government not only lied when it stated that the red residue was seat glue but, more damning yet, did so knowingly and with malice of forethought. The government claimed that a lab test done by a NASA scientist, Dr. Charles Bassett, proved that the residue was 3M seat glue. On the basis of that one result, the government maintained, and maintains to this very day, that the red residue was seat glue. But during the discovery phase of the Sanders trial, Dr. Charles Bassett swore under oath that his tests did not link the red residue to seat glue. More to the point, the tests he was asked to perform for the NTSB could not have made such a determination. Even more damning, efforts by Bassett to coax the normally pale green 3M seat glue into assuming the reddish color of the residue all failed. This is the "other verdict" in the trial of James Sanders. The government lied. In fact, now documented in a court of law, what they had was a lab test that proved exactly the opposite. In the trial of James Sanders, regardless of the verdicts handed down by the jury, it is the government that leaves the courtroom branded a liar. It's official now. The government is lying to the public about TWA 800. And not just about the red residue and bogus lab tests. Many other lies have been exposed, including the initial denial of the status of the warning zones, the presence of military vessels near the crash site, the workability of the pingers on the flight recorders; even the government's explanation for a suspicious line of flight recorder data has been proven to be a lie. The claim that a noseless 747 can maintain stable flight and climb 1000 feet per the government's cover story is both aerodynamically and structurally impossible. But the government's claim that a lab test proved that the red residue was seat glue is not only another in a long list of proven lies, it's a lie that was exposed in a court of law. Just think about what that really means, to know for a fact, proven in a court of law, that the government is lying to the public about TWA 800. It means, for one thing, that the mainstream media, which still parrots the claim that the red residue is seat glue, is also lying - yet another nail in the coffin of the mainstream media's credibility. It means that the government is using your tax money to pay public relations firms, intelligence operatives and media assets to lie to you. Nowhere in the Constitution is the government given the right to lie to the public, much less use the public's money to do so. It's
[CTRL] New Article on Reno by Chris Ruddy
-Caveat Lector- Analysis: Janet Reno -- the Cornerstone of the Clinton Cover-ups Christopher Ruddy June 14, 1999 Miami -- In the middle of the Chinagate scandal maelstrom sits U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno. Already several top lawmakers have called for her to resign. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Reno has managed "probably the most disgraceful Justice Department since the Teapot Dome scandal of 1923 when the attorney general had to resign because of corruption." Reno's efforts to cover-up for Chinagate, the Clinton's scandal du jour, are legion. But one fact stands out above all others: Reno refused to authorize a wiretap request in 1997, when the FBI wanted to monitor Los Alamos espionage suspect Wen Ho Lee. According to Investor's Business Daily, this was the only wiretap request she denied out of almost 2,700. Even before the Chinese nuclear espionage allegations shook the political landscape, Reno had been covering for the Clintons' special dealings with China. Despite the FBI director's recommendation and the request of a Justice Department official she appointed, Reno has steadfastly refused to appoint an independent counsel to investigate whether Clinton sold America's most sensitive nuclear and military secrets for campaign cash. Actually, Janet Reno has been in the middle of every maelstrom involving the Clintons since her appointment as Attorney General. From Waco to Travelgate to Vince Foster's death to Whitewater obstruction to China-Lippogate, Reno has done exactly what she was appointed to do. She has held the floodwaters of justice from ever reaching the Clinton White House. The truth is that Janet Reno was the most important appointment made to the Clinton cabinet. Bill and Hillary Clinton, professional white-collar criminals, knew that their attorney general would be critical to their hold on the presidency. They also knew their choice for the Cabinet post would come under close scrutiny by Senate Republicans. Eventually they settled on Reno, a Harvard Law School graduate, who had returned to her Miami, Florida home and become a local prosecutor before being named by Governor Reubin Askew as Dade County State Attorney. The Clintons' First Choice The way history records it, Janet Reno was the accidental Attorney General, a third choice who luckily got picked because of the unexpected failure of the first two candidates. That history, as it turns out to be falsified one. Janet Reno was no accident. The real details about Reno's ascendancy were sketched out to me one afternoon by a friend and one-time associate of Janet Reno. We met at a restaurant in the bohemian enclave of Cocoanut Grove here in Miami -- once a stomping ground for Reno. Reno, her associate told me, was actually the first choice of the Clintons because of her notable track record in Miami: during Reno's legal stewardship of Miami it became a mecca for drug dealers, money launderers, corrupt politicians and other hoodlums. It was during Reno's tenure here that the city earned its well deserved nickname from a highly-rated television show "Miami Vice." Last year, Miami became the center of controversy when a state court removed the sitting mayor because of voter fraud. But, according to Reno's former associate, voter fraud flourished while Reno served as Miami's chief law enforcement officer. Investigative reporters James Collier and Ken Collier detailed in the 1992 book Votescam how they uncovered pre-printed voter ballots in a warehouse rented by a Miami political candidate. Following the advice of their editor, they seized the evidence and took the illegal ballots to the State's Attorney, Janet Reno. Incredibly, Reno had the journalists arrested, rather than investigate how a candidate had pre-printed ballots in his possession. As Reno's former associate noted, she was a perfect match for the Clintons because she had a near-perfect record of not prosecuting white-collar criminals or politicians. No one ever accused her of taking bribes or conspiring with criminals, but she was frequently criticized by her political opponents for her naiveté. It was alleged, too, that she was susceptible to blackmail for personal indiscretions. It was clear from Reno's tenure as Miami's figurative top cop that she liked holding public office. She focused on safe issues that she cared about, such as preventing child abuse, while drug dealing, money laundering, and political corruption were rampant. It is generally acknowledged that Hillary Clinton by covering for her husband during the Gennifer Flowers flap had earned the right to name nominees to a number of cabinet posts, including the Attorney General. Hillary Clinton, whose brother had served as a legal aid attorney representing indigent defendants, prosecuted by Reno's office, had firsthand information that Reno was a patsy for the criminal element. The Dade County state attorney shaped up as the ideal Clintonian candidate for the post. She was a woman. She was
[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] NAVY PILOT'S REPORT ON JFK, JR.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = ==RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY== = Dateline: 07.18.99 A REPORT ON THE DISAPPEARANCE OF JFK, JR BY A FORMER NAVY PILOT Thanks to Joe Jordan from the POW Strikeforce for this excellant information. Subj: Latest JFK assassination information Date: 7/18/1999 8:01:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe L. Jordan) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sherman Skolnick will be putting out a report on the shootdown later this morning. (RMNews will forward it as soon as it comes in.) Here is what we know: The plane is similar to the old "Cherokee Six" which is a very reliable aircraft. It's counterpart in a car would be a Chevy suburban. It is a pussycat to fly and you would virtually have to force it into a stall. It was equipped with a radar transponder that would transmit a 4-digit ID code and the altitude to any enquiring approach control radar. That's how they identified the plane and its very rapid descent,5,000 feet in a minute or two(Similar to TWA 800). The Textron/Lycoming 6-cylinder engine has had some trouble with wrist pin caps coming loose and taking out the engine in flight. Even if it did, the plane could ahve gone into a slow glide and made a soft-water landing. There was no mayday or voice radio communication indicating trouble. The plane had a 406 mhz satellite distress beacon which woukld have notified FAA at once along with exact latitude and longitude. This device must be activated by the pilot. It is not automatic. This leads one to believe that there was a sudden and catastrophic occurence leaving no time for calls for assistance. The fact that a severed wheel and a headrest have been retrieved indicate the airframe and cabin are disentegrated. Even if the plane had made a hard-water crash, the wings would have been torn off but the landing gear and the cabin,though crumpled, should be intact. When the Challenger went down, the cabin was intact as were the the bodies. Although JFK did not file a flight plan, he could have been under close surveillance(as Diana was in her final days) and a plan for his elimination could have been on the shelf waiting for implementation. It is rumored that the NWO will kick in at Y2k and they are slowly eliminating any personages who could rally the country to prevent tjhe takeover. The rapid descent and no distress call are consistent with a stinger or sidewinder shootdown or an on-board bomb with a descending- altuitude pressure trigger(He was descending and on approach to the yard) It seems strange that Clinton has not already dispatched Navy salvage vessels which easily locate the wreckage. It is perhaps they are somewhere crashing a similar plane to have "Wreckage" to bring up that doesn't show missile or bomb damage. This event is very strange. The plane was brand new, equipped with every conceivable device and there was no turbulence, rain or gusty winds. Comments welcomed. Please distribute widely. Joe L. Jordan North Vietnam, 147 missions Join the A-Team: Each One Awakens One = ==The Uncensored National Rumor= = SUBSCRIBE TO THE RUMOR MILL NEWS ONE LIST MAILING LIST AND RECEIVE BREAKING NEWS REPORTS GIVING YOU THE NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS AND THE TRUTH YOU WILL NEVER GET FROM THE CONTROLLED MEDIA A HREF="http://onelist.com/arcindex.cgi?listname=RuMills"ONElist E-mail Communities /A http://onelist.com/arcindex.cgi?listname=RuMills http://www.rumormillnews.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telfax: 831.462.3949 RMNews P.O. Box 1784 Aptos, CA 95001-1784 --- ONElist Sponsor The Best Place to Buy Movies - Reel.com a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/reel1 "Click Here/a RMNews, The Uncensored National Rumor
[CTRL] Economy of Lies
-Caveat Lector- Economy of Lies The cost of enforcing the illegal prohibition of hemp and marijuana has been phenomenal. This cost has become a veritable pork barrel by which elitist politicians, at the behest of their elite owners, are able to abscond with huge amounts of the publics money, to enforce special interest laws that benefit only them and their industries. Monopolistic and dynastic characteristics epitomize industrys goals as far as fair competition is concerned. Fuels, Materials, pharmaceuticals, and recreational drugs (Budweiser:King of drugs) have been sewn up tight, with legislation and its attendant law enforcement keeping the lid and cuffs on for their bosses, the ultra-rich. Billions of dollars of the peoples moneys have been spent to secure monopolys that act directly against the interests of the public, as concerns business and fair competition. Years have been lost and gargantuan chunks of productivity thrown to the wayside, while huge conglomerates tighten the collar, nay, noose, to the point of strangulation. To enforce these laws of monopoly huge prison industries have been spawned, to incarcerate those who would have the colossal audacity to compete with big business on its own terms. Most times examples are made of the small fry "Criminals", fodder for the fear machine of television, which A) is NOT a press, and B) is owned by the very interests who wish to lock down opportunity and fair competition. Individual states are right now introducing action to sue for damages against tobacco. They say that the medical expense incurred by tobacco users warrants this, and they mean to recoup the losses of the monopolistic Federal Reserve Insurance Interests. My question is this. Once it is shown how badly Americans have been ripped off as far as fair competition in the marketplace is concerned, which means ever since hemp and its products and byproducts were illegally made illegal, and the beneficence of this crop is once again realized as an alternative to fuels and materials production; once the inmates who are serving time for using this natural substance as a recreational drug (mostly as an alternative to the very debilitative alcohol) get released from jail, who is going to sue government for all the lost time and lives spent in jails that were created for no other reason than to restrict fair trade in America? Who? The reason marijuana has not become re-legal so far is because government understands only too well the mistake that was made when they capitulated to William Hearst, and the Duponts and the Mellons when those apes railroaded hemp illegality through the law system by using yellow journalism scare tactics. They have been able to enforce the conditioning through television, but Americans are not really stupid and are waking up. So whos going to pay us back the money that was stolen from us? Where is the money going to come from? Who will pay to tear down the prison "INDUSTRY", which is still being used to restrict fair trade in American markets and the World, and who will pay to have them converted to useful and productive institutions, instead of the holding pens for those who have challenged the elitist criminals in control now? WHO? The lock down is so thorough that surveillance has become the norm among the elite who need every advantage they can lay their hands on, because people really are waking up from their television induced fear/hysteria. Prisons no longer need to be locked buildings and cells. It is possible, and has been well exercised by the super powerful, to make prisoners of anyone, at anytime, by controlling them through surveillance. Look at what is available as far as surveillance equipment is concerned, versus countersurveillance equipment. Look at the cost and understand, KNOW that the devices are restricted to only those of upper echelon means. The Goddess Columbia is dying, has been dying ever since she was raped and left bleeding in the gutter at the beginning of this century. But there are those to avenge her, and as ugly as her downfall was, the downfall of the perpetrators of lies and special interests will be AT LEAST that horrible when it happens. 10/9/98 Economy of Lies, Part II 5/1/99 ANYONE WHO CALLS TRUTHTERRORIS A LIAR. In a very real way we are, right now, standing in The House That Crack Built. We have become a product of certain "Controlled Conflict", namely The War On Drugs, which is itself a product of Hegellian thought which capitalizes on all aspects of a predetermined situation. We The People have been warred upon, and truthfully, most don't even realize it. Many think it only happens to other people. And nothing is farther from the truth. As a nation we have ALL been warred upon, and we have become the greatest economic scapegoats of all time. Our currency is corrupt, inflation is rife but hidden, a possible cataclysm of dire
Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing in Sobran's article said that slavery was good or that anyone other than the slaves and slavers had any regard for it. Man's inhumanity to man takes many forms. Slavery does not appear to be the worst of them. The ownership of human beings also takes many forms. Slavery is just the one that can be most clearly observed. Prudy Prudy's response suggests that I suggested that some people think slavery is good. I didn't say that. I said that we can't excuse our own bad behaviour because someone else behaves badly too. The point of Sobran's article seemed to be to construct just such an excuse - "Ah, EuroAmericans aren't so bad, after all it was native chiefs and Moslem traders who actually did the enslaving." Ah, but EuroAmericans transported and marketed the slaves, bred and worked and profited from the slaves, repressed and exploited the slaves - when they weren't busy repressing/exploiting/slaughtering Indians and each other and anybody else within reach. Prudy is correct here. The fact is that we are all slaves on one level or another. Ah, virtual slavery. We are all ANYTHING at SOME level or another. If you can tell someone else what to do, you're a virtual king or slavemaster. If other people can make you do things you don't wish, you're a virtual slave. But this isn't the same as real live actual chattel slavery, where you're bought/sold directly; where immediate work and obedience are required of you without payment, under pain of a direct threat of force. The "wage slave" has many more options that the chattel slave, is not subject to the same direct physical coercion. Don't mistake the virtual for the real. Beware analogies. Some other virtual situations: If you pant, you're a virtual dog. If you loan someone a quarter, you're a virtual banker. If you drive too fast, you're a virtual escapee, or a virtual race driver, or a virtual jet pilot. If you can get your VCR to tape more than one show at a time, you're a virtual software engineer. If you live in a dreamworld, you're in virtual reality. Et cetera. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kennedy Death Wish? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Sounds more and more like what Chamish said regarding canned crap could be real, huh? Mike --begin forward-- George writer: JFK Jr. had death wish Sunday, 18 July 1999 15:28 (GMT) (UPI Spotlight) George writer: JFK Jr. had death wish NEW YORK, July 18 (UPI) - A George magazine columnist who writes interpretations of celebrities' dreams tells the New York Post (Sunday) that John F. Kennedy Jr. had a "death wish." Lauren Lawrence, the psychoanalyst who writes the "Political Dreams" column for Kennedy's magazine and has also penned a book that analyzes the dreams of famous figures, says he defied his mother's wishes for him to avoid dangerous situation and that flying in hazy weather shows "reckless behavior." Copyright 1999 by United Press International = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CONSPIRACY Re: JFK Jr's Plane is missing (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
The Clinton administration had nothing to do with JFK Jr.s disappearance.
If anything, he was the great white hope of the Democratic party and
certainly a possible contender for power if he had lived.
If you're looking for a list of suspects, you don't have to look any
farther than the real power behind the American NWO: the Bush family who
are linked to the Texas oil faction that helped engineer JFK's murder.
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
-Caveat Lector-
LOOK, how can ANYONE bad mouth another for suspecting murder,
etc?!?! Auyookiddin ME!!?
Unfortunately for the Clinton Administration, neither anything
that happens to a person who has any political connections at
all, nor anything that is exceptionally newsworthy that pushes a
Clinton scandal off of the news can escape the suspicion that the
hand of the Administration is once again at work. It has
happened too many times for us not to look at any seeming
"accident" with a jaundiced eye.
Best,
Mike
P.S. What's up with www.georgemagazine.com
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Re: [CTRL] the good old days of laissez faire capitalism
-Caveat Lector- You got it. On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/17/1999 4:47:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" Written in the 20's wasn't it? And all we needed to bring back the "good old days" was GATT, NAFTA, and the "new world order." Thank you Reagan, Bush and (new Democrat) Clinton. Of course, "new Democrat" stands for "mostly Republican."We have a new form of government as well. I call it Corporatocracy.Charles Hurwitz invented our new motto. "He who has the gold rules." As for the rest of you little people, shut up and pay your taxes. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] On: Pilot Disorientation... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:49:48 -0400 From: Edward W. Zehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: M.A. Johnson's posting of: THE MOST IMPORTANT PILOTING SKILL by Neal Boortz (www.boortz.com) Judgment. [...] Throughout the coverage of the JFK Jr. Situation on Saturday I did not hear one commentator or expert address the issue of spatial disorientation. In my book, The Terrible Truth About Liberals, I dealt with this aspect of flying in a chapter entitled "48 Seconds." The chapter title comes from the life expectancy of a non-instrument rated private pilot who strays into the clouds into what is called "instrument meteorological conditions." That life expectancy is about 48 seconds. [...] I did hear one expert expound this as the probable cause of the mishap. Since I was channel-surfing at the time in a desperate attempt to evade the relentless and wretchedly excessive coverage -- [e.g. tuned to "France Deux" on Channel 56 to get some news: "Le evenement tragique -- est'ce famille Kennedy maudit?" -- I do not recall which network carried the expert opinion. The crux of it is: The non-pilot might think that it would be easy to keep an airplanes wings level without outside visual references. Not so. Within seconds after wandering into the clouds your body will start telling you that the airplane is doing things - turning, for instance - that it simply isnt doing. You will turn the wheel or move the yoke to stop the turn. Finally you might get to the point where your body tells you everything is OK. Its not. By that time you are probably in a diving turn, heading for the ground. My flight instructors called this a "death spiral." If you pop out of the bottom of a cloud into clear air with enough altitude above the ground you "might" be able to level the wings and pull out of the ground in time. An inexperienced pilot might, however, see what is happening and pull back on the yoke so sharply that the airplane enters an accelerated stall and simply falls from the sky. At this point about 48 seconds, on the average, have elapsed since you wandered into the clouds. If the pilot took his hands off the controls the aircraft would ease into the spiral descent described above. This is because most light aircraft have an unstable mode known in the trade as "spiral divergence." Lindbergh wrote in his book "33 Hours To Paris" about how he had fallen asleep at one point, to be awakened by the sun flashing in his eyes periodically as his aircraft descended in a slow, lazy spiral towards the sea. On the other hand, if the VFR-trained pilot attempts to control the aircraft after "losing the horizon" he will probably make things much worse. Although Kennedy's aircraft came equipped with the requisite instruments, attempting to use them without the proper training would be a real ball of snakes. In view of radar sightings which showed the aircraft making a sudden descent from 2,200 ft to 1,300 ft (and beyond?) the likely explanation for the mishap is that the haze closed in, the pilot became disoriented, lost control and spun in. It happens. -- EZ = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Disorientation at least one other Pilot Agrees ( did so the Tube Yesterday) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:25:20 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 99-07-18 10:11:12 EDT, you write: Throughout the coverage of the JFK Jr. Situation on Saturday I did not hear one commentator or expert address the issue of spatial disorientation. This point was covered by me and others on two Fox-TV live segments out of Dallas yesterday. All the facts aren't in, of course, and probably won't ever be, but it seems clear to me that the "best guess" right now is disorientation, followed by an over correction (or a correction applied backwards) that caused a loss of control resulting in a high speed spin into the water at a near vertical angle at something around 300 knots. I also hit the judgment issue pretty hard -- A Single Engine Land Private Pilot with no IFR rating, only around 200 hours of total flight time, with experience flying the aircraft type in question limited to three months, takes off on an night flight over water, flying into deteriorating destination weather. This is nothing but a major failure in judgment. I said on Fox-TV yesterday (local Dallas Station) that if I had been at the Essex County Airport in Fairfield, New Jersey, and was a non-pilot who needed a quick ride to Martha's Vineyard, and had been offered a lift by JFK, Jr., on Friday night (and knew what he knew about his training and experience) I would not have taken him up on his offer to fly me to Martha's Vineyard unless "it were a matter of life and death" (a little intended irony there which I think went right by my anchorman). Warm regards, Hugh S. = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Kennedy Hit
-Caveat Lector- Excellent point. All of this is familiar to us.. the spate of conflicting stories, individuals who pop up out of nowhere to raise questions about his flying ability, the reliability of the aircraft... we've been down this road before. On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Amelia Edgeman wrote: -Caveat Lector- We are already being given a tremendous variance of John Jr.'s experience and ability as a pilot. I heard on MSNBC last night that he had 1500 hours flying time. Later, I have read/heard as low as 100 hours. Seems any mainstream reported could get the correct info easily. Why so many opinions and differences of his ability/experience? Obviously a conspiracy here. :) AKE - Original Message - From: (Charles Overbeck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 11:32 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Kennedy Hit This just in from Barry Chamish... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] My First Love: Freedom [if urs 2,then u must read]
-Caveat Lector- ON FREEDOM "Freedom" is probably one of the most usedand misusedwords by politicians of all stripes. If anything, "freedom" is probably used more by statist politicians, the destroyers of freedom, than anyone else. Tyrants have almost always sold their tyranny to its victims in the name of "freedom." What is freedom and do you have a right to it? If you do, why? Before proceeding farther, take a moment to write down your answer to these questions. What is freedom? Do you have a right to it? If so, why? Your definition of freedom should be confined to one, brief sentence. If you claim you have a right to freedom, your answer should be restricted to a single sentenceno more. Remember, that the purpose of a definition is to provide a concept with identity, to distinguish that concept from all others. A definition should clearly set apart that aspect of reality to which a concept refers from all other aspects of reality. Your definition of freedom should make its meaning real. This may seem like a schoolhouse exercise, but give it a try. Write down your answer, then go to the remainder of this article. You will find it instructive. And it will provide you with a clue about why freedom has been on the defensive for all of the 20th century. Freedom is the ability to act without the initiation of force (or its threat) being used against you. You have a right to freedom because your life is your property, yours to live as you see fit (as long as you do not violate the right to life and liberty of another). If you are free, you have the unfettered ability to pursue your own happiness, to make those choices needed for the sustenance of your own life. In a semi-free society, such as we have today, your options are forcibly limited by statist politicians on the implicit claim that your life is not your own. But take special note of this important fact: your ability, in a free society, to make unfettered choices is the consequence of being unfettered, i.e., of being unconstrained by the initiation of force. "Having choices" is not the definition of freedom, it is simply one of the consequences of being free. Now, consider your definition of freedom. Is your definition corrupted, even if slightly, by the definition of freedom which has been put forth by statist politicians? Statists define freedom as "having a choice," the kind of choices only available to an armed thug or a statist politician. Consider the role this definition of "freedom" has played, and continues to play, in the rise of Americas welfare statemore accurately characterized as Americas parasite state, one in which some forcibly feed off of the earnings of others. Having successfully substituted the statist definition of "freedom" in the minds of most, statists argue, to quote from Fatal Blindness, "that children of poor parents do not have the freedom to attend the college of their choice or the freedom to receive the very best medical care because of a lack of funds or that some struggling artists do not have freedom of expression because they lack money ." The logic of such arguments has driven, and continues to drive, statisms rapacious growth, bringing us statist programs that forcibly take your money in order to provide others with more "freedom," all at the expense of forcibly denying you the freedom to decide how your money is to be spent. Statists are all over the place offering new "freedoms," new choices made available through the initiation of government force. By means of compulsion, statists make options available to some by denying free choice to others (which is what statists are attempting to do in the case of Microsoft in their attempt to force Microsoft to include Netscape in Windows 98). In the name of "freedom," statists destroy actual freedom. In the name of "choice," statists destroy actual, free choice. We now have statists claiming that poor children are being denied equal access to the Internet, that we must provide them with the same "freedom" enjoyed by others, that you are to be forced to pay for computers for these poor childrenwhich means: you are going to be forcibly denied the freedom to refuse to pay for such computers. And now we have our chief statist, Clinton, pushing for a patients "bill of rights," for a new set of "freedoms" that will be acquired by means of the initiation of force, either forcing certain individuals to do certain things or forcibly forbidding them from doing some thingswhich means: certain individuals will be forcibly prevented from interacting voluntarily with others, destroying real freedom. And if they can do it to these individuals, they can do it to you. If actual freedom is to be secured for ourselves and future generations, it must be clearly defined. As I have stated on more than one occasion, you cannot defend what you cannot define. If the statist definition of "freedom" continues to be accepted by a majority,
[CTRL] Boot Camp for Inner City Youth (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message - LOS ANGELES, California, USA, October 20, 1998 (U.S. Congressional Press Release) - Hundreds of 11 to 13 year old students living in working class neighborhoods of Los Angeles are being targeted for a program which requires students to attend a military-style boot camp at Camp San Luis Obispo called Angel Gate Academy when they would ordinarily be on vacation. Under the program, anyone with brown skin has been classified as an "at risk youth" and their parents, many who are immigrants from countries with military and police terrorism against civilians, are being told that attendance is "mandatory" even though the program was officially described as "voluntary" by its sponsor, U.S. Congressman Julian Dixon (Democrat-South L.A.). To blunt criticism, the program is being sold as remedial math and science classes. None of the participants was sentenced to the boot camp by a judge and none have broken any law as with a boot camp in Arizona where negligence recently killed some of the young prisoners who were California residents. However, they are being compelled to participate in military-style regimentation, drill and behavioral conditioning exercises which are designed to discourage individuality and encourage them to enlist in the military when they get older. During this four-week "emersion" program, students are watched and told what to do 24-hours per day in a manner resembling military recruits or prisoners, even though they are highly impressionable and emotionally immature pre-teenagers, most of whom have never been away from their families before. The presumption of the program is that Latino pre-teenagers will become "juvenile delinquents" if they don't receive military-style indoctrination. The boot camp is funded by $4.2 Million from the Defense Department budget and is administered by California National Guard troops who are neither qualified teachers nor given any background screening to protect the children from the possibility of abuse or neglect. Julian Dixon has used his position on the House Appropriations Subcommittee on National Security to sell this program as an essential contribution to "national security." Fiscal Year 1999 will be the SIXTH consecutive year this program has been forced upon Latino youth in Los Angeles. Local community organizers have repeatedly voiced their outrage at the tactics being used to coerce students into going to boot camp, but they have been largely ignored by the Los Angeles Unified School District and the California National Guard which are implementing the program. EDITOR'S NOTE: This program closely parallels the use of corporate funding to establish High School Police Academy magnet schools at High Schools in the City's Latino and African American neighborhoods. Like the Hitler Youth in Nazi Germany, it suggests a conscious effort by the government to pre-determine the values and behavior of working class youth at an early age so they will grow up to be the gung ho "loyal party members", police and military troops of the future. Like the Hitler Youth, it is the government's preferred alternative to funding adequate public education and giving people the chance to have a job which pays a living wage when they grow up. -- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] radio: Skolnick - Attempted Gore Assassination??
-Caveat Lector- Jeff Rense Radio Show Guest schedule : http://www.sightings.com MON 7-19-99 Ed Fouche': US Military Flying Triangles Sherman Skolnick: Attempted Gore Assassination?? TUE 7-20-99 Val Valerian: Creator of www.trufax.com Live Real Audio Broadcasts Archives : http://www.jeffrense.com . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE PARASITE STATE
-Caveat Lector- THE PARASITE STATE One of the major problems with the defenders of freedom is that they are losing the sound bite war, the battle of brief comments that help make an argument stick in the minds of listeners and/or readers. Well, here is a way to begin to change this by calling the welfare state what it really is: the parasite state. This is not name calling, but an accurate description of the statist system of government in America. A parasite is a living creature which feeds, without permission, from the life of another. Statist politicians institutionalize parasitism, a process in which some human beings forcibly feed off of the efforts of those who earn their own living. The parasites in America are not just the so-called poor. The parasites thrive on all income levels, including the wealthy. Consider the manner in which they consume the lives of the productive. The poor use the parasite state to forcibly take your money to provide them with the so-called basic necessities, with food, housing and clothing. Those with average incomes use the parasite state to take your money to build their bridges, their highways, their schools and anything else which might improve their lives. These are the recipients of the so-called "pork barrel" projects which emanate from Congress, at the behest of the most dangerous lobbyist in America: your Congressman. Among the wealthy, we have parasites who get their money, not by honestly earning it, but by using the force of government to provide them with a special advantage, such as local cable companies who are granted a government-enforced monopoly to eliminate competition. Then there are those who gain their wealth from lucrative government contracts, contracts awarded in exchange for political contributions. Conventional wisdom claims that the solution to the foregoing is to limit campaign contributions, that money has corrupted the system. However, the truth is this: the corruption lies in the nature of statism, in a system which claims the "right" to forcibly take your money and give it to others. It is not money which has corrupted the system, it is the parasite states claim to your money, and to your life, which is corrupt. The first step toward eradicating an evil is to correctly identify it. To identify parasitism is to destroy it. Let statists attempt to defend parasitism. They wont be able to do it. It is indefensible. The only way they can continue with their deadly game of gorging themselves off of your earnings is through obfuscation, by covering up the real nature of what they are doing. Who wants to be identified as a parasite? Certainly not the parasites, who hope to avoid the light of day, who hope you never discover what they are doing. What politician would be able to stand before voters and defend a government of the parasites, by the parasites and for the parasites? Not a single oneat least, not in America. Yet, in fact, in America, statist politicians succeed in defending the parasite state by simply never identifying it. Instead, in the name of children or safety or health or education or some other supposedly noble goal, statist politicians promote program after program whose only purpose is to forcibly siphon off your money, put it into the pockets of parasites and increase the power of statists. No one can defend the morality of a parasite. It is immoral for an individual to spend his life mooching off of others. It is viciously immoral for an individual to force you, at the point of a gun, to fork over your moneyyet this is precisely what statist politicians do, so their bloated supporters can continue to receive unearned funds. Think about your neighbors, friends and acquaintances. Most of them would never dream of personally doing what their hired guns, statist politicians, do on their behalf. But the anonymity of the voting booth, and the intellectual camouflage provided by statists, permit them to remain oblivious to statisms meaning and to do by surrogate what they would never have the guts to do to your faceforcibly take your money. This means they know they have no moral right to your life and moneyand this means you have the upper hand if you assert yourself by clearly identifying what statists are doing. If enough begin to name the real nature of statism, it will put statist politicians on the defensive, it will be the beginning of their retreat. But as long as statist politicians continue to succeed in cloaking what they are doing, freedom in America will continue its slow, downward spiral. Fulton Huxtable June 7, 1998 © Copyright 1998 Fulton Huxtable http://www.fatalblindness.com/FREEDOM980607.htm#ISSUES --- THE NEW AMERICAN http://www.thenewamerican.com/departments/right_answers/index.htm May 25, 1998 Volume 14, No. 11 Q. How many foreigners are now in the U.S.? R.C.C., Los Angeles, CA A. The 1997 foreign-born population was 25.8
Re: [CTRL] CONSPIRACY Re: JFK Jr's Plane is missing (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
The NWO owns ALL these people...Clinton is just the other
side of the Bush Coin, and neither are as powerful as the
people who own all of them...many rumors and proofs that
Clinton is close personal friend of the Bush Clan...they are
all owned by the same people, and pretty much HAVE to be or
something as sincerely corrupt as the NWO would never stand
a chance of institutionthe term republicrat is very
apt...Clinton was brought in by the masters because boy
george I was falling on his butt...Clinton is truly a media
baby, said media being of course the Money-Owned media...he
HAS to keep it going to the day of magic nonaccountability
of Y2K...20 years ago they were warned and willfully
disregarded the warning...instead they wrote FEMA
directives...Y2K is the greatest capitalist opportunity that
has ever existed in our history...it makes all other war
financing and windfalls look like tomatoes on sale! To
understand the truth is to understand, I mean TRULY
understand, what type of animals gravitate to upper echelon
power...they are not human and are the greatest predators
that have evolved here yet. It is not pretty at all. ALL
issues are contrived by them as tools of distraction.
There is real and potent magic afoot in the world today, and
the numismatic beast is alive and well. It eats people.
And it is, by now, extremely hungry. Watch...
William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
-Caveat Lector-
The Clinton administration had nothing to do with JFK Jr.s disappearance.
If anything, he was the great white hope of the Democratic party and
certainly a possible contender for power if he had lived.
If you're looking for a list of suspects, you don't have to look any
farther than the real power behind the American NWO: the Bush family who
are linked to the Texas oil faction that helped engineer JFK's murder.
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
-Caveat Lector-
LOOK, how can ANYONE bad mouth another for suspecting murder,
etc?!?! Auyookiddin ME!!?
Unfortunately for the Clinton Administration, neither anything
that happens to a person who has any political connections at
all, nor anything that is exceptionally newsworthy that pushes a
Clinton scandal off of the news can escape the suspicion that the
hand of the Administration is once again at work. It has
happened too many times for us not to look at any seeming
"accident" with a jaundiced eye.
Best,
Mike
P.S. What's up with www.georgemagazine.com
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[CTRL] FW: (no subject)
-Caveat Lector- Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 12:05 PM To: ac; adv; AKUSA; as; bk; cm; ctz; dd; dgtl; dtcm; ecfr; Edv; GOOA; Goth; hert; in99; m264; m97; MAG; mdma; mjdm; mn5; mntr; mom; mqq; NC; nmcpp; of; rgr; sc; spiker; TRT; umc5; UT; vmc; VR6; VVG; weys; stevmaye; TR; stvmay; PBL Subject: (no subject) I just received this from a source I consider impecable. Please pass on. July 17,1999 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) ON ALERT! --- The 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, was placed on alert today. The dispatch came from an associate of mine I knew during my 2 years in the 5th Special Forces Group, who is stationed at Fort Campbell, with ties (still) to our "home" base, Ft. Bragg. It would be interesting to know the Military's reasoning for this drastic move. Information also indicates that the 82nd Airborne Division has also been placed on alert. I'm being told that the (reason) for this is the possible use of U.S. Troops against U.S. citizens either in the coming attack against the Patriot/Milita communities (reported to be on 8/4/99) in which they would be used either as backup troops to the UN/NATO forces already in position, or as "Peacekeeping" troops for the entire Western region where these attacks will take place, keeping the remainder of the American populace restrainted and under control. Another reason I've been given is the same "Peacekeeping" roll for the entire country after the "Nuking" of the East and West coasts by the Russians (reported to be sometime between (9/9 - 9/14), keeping the remainder of the American populace under control, under martial law. I MUST STRESS that this information has not yet been coraborated by more than one source, that source being a member of the 5th Special Forces Group. I am in the process of doing that validation process now. DO NOT run off in a panic - merely investigate as throughly and as quickly as possible.. J.W. Swedenburg === THE NEW AMERICAN http://www.thenewamerican.com/departments/right_answers/index.htm Q. Does the White House have a special outreach program for atheist groups? H.S., Bakersfield, CA A. Representatives from a group called American Atheists, as well as other atheists, were received at the White House in early May, where they aired various grievances based on the often-misconstrued notion of the separation of church and state. One youngster, for example, complained that he had been kicked out of the Boy Scouts which of course is a private organization. Nevertheless, the atheists expressed satisfaction with the "very positive" first step with the Clinton Administration. The gathering, reported the Religious News Service, "is believed to be the first formal White House meeting between an organized group and representatives of the President." The unbelievers contact was with a member of the White House Office of Public Liaison who normally meets with representatives of the religious community. William P. Hoar -- Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CONSPIRACY Re: JFK Jr's Plane is missing (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I don't disagree, B. But it's just that we have a certain segment on our list who believe that Clinton is the anti-Christ, the Supreme Grand Dragon of Arch-Evilness (after all, he fools around and Lord knows what..) Actually, I think he's rather small potatoes in comparison to some of the other baddies who run the show. At any rate, he'll soon be off center stage, and we'll have Dubba or Al to take his place. On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Bill wrote: -Caveat Lector- The NWO owns ALL these people...Clinton is just the other side of the Bush Coin, and neither are as powerful as the people who own all of them...many rumors and proofs that Clinton is close personal friend of the Bush Clan...they are all owned by the same people, and pretty much HAVE to be or something as sincerely corrupt as the NWO would never stand a chance of institutionthe term republicrat is very apt...Clinton was brought in by the masters because boy george I was falling on his butt...Clinton is truly a media baby, said media being of course the Money-Owned media...he HAS to keep it going to the day of magic nonaccountability of Y2K...20 years ago they were warned and willfully disregarded the warning...instead they wrote FEMA directives...Y2K is the greatest capitalist opportunity that has ever existed in our history...it makes all other war financing and windfalls look like tomatoes on sale! To understand the truth is to understand, I mean TRULY understand, what type of animals gravitate to upper echelon power...they are not human and are the greatest predators that have evolved here yet. It is not pretty at all. ALL issues are contrived by them as tools of distraction. There is real and potent magic afoot in the world today, and the numismatic beast is alive and well. It eats people. And it is, by now, extremely hungry. Watch... William Hugh Tunstall wrote: -Caveat Lector- The Clinton administration had nothing to do with JFK Jr.s disappearance. If anything, he was the great white hope of the Democratic party and certainly a possible contender for power if he had lived. If you're looking for a list of suspects, you don't have to look any farther than the real power behind the American NWO: the Bush family who are linked to the Texas oil faction that helped engineer JFK's murder. On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: -Caveat Lector- LOOK, how can ANYONE bad mouth another for suspecting murder, etc?!?! Auyookiddin ME!!? Unfortunately for the Clinton Administration, neither anything that happens to a person who has any political connections at all, nor anything that is exceptionally newsworthy that pushes a Clinton scandal off of the news can escape the suspicion that the hand of the Administration is once again at work. It has happened too many times for us not to look at any seeming "accident" with a jaundiced eye. Best, Mike P.S. What's up with www.georgemagazine.com = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths,
Re: [CTRL] My First Love: Freedom [if urs 2,then u must read]
-Caveat Lector- Those are noble thoughts, Bard... uh ...the problem is from the time we are born, we are living in a state of unfreedom. If mom and dad were fortunate enough to have money and property...perhaps, if they owned their own business... you probably are well situated in the American system. However, if mom and dad had the "wrong" complexion, didn't own their own business, didn't own their own house, and were wage slavesyour place in the American system is far more tenuous. ...Of course, if you have the "right stuff" (ie serve the interests of your social and economic betters), you have an opportunity to enjoy a more generous slice of the economic pie. But during the earliest years of your life, you must live a decidedly unfree and dependent existence. You are dependent on the largesse and support of mom and dad through your formative years. You're a parasite, a albeit a cute little onebut mom and dad are footing the bill and taking care of your creature comforts. When you become an "adult," if you manage to scrape together a sufficient amount of capital, you might go into business.only to discover that you are now dependent on the vagaries of the marketplace. Or you join the eighty percent of your fellow citizens who lack capital and must sell their talents, skills, bodies to those who do have capital. Not much freedom there, I'm afraid. Of course, you can pick and choose which master you will have, so you do have some measure of freedom of choice. Should I work at this Target or should I work at KMart? Should I work at Arby's or should I work at McDonalds? The wages are pretty much the same...although the individual employers will vary, locations of the establishments, decor, type of uniform you wear... Speaking of uniforms, you can always go into the military service that provides a rough form of communistic offerings for its personnel: food, clothing, shelter, medical, etc. But without capital, you will not be able to place a roof over your head, or feed yourself... Every second that you are alive, you must pay for the privilege of maintaining your existence. If you're Steve Forbes, you'll never know what that is like... so although we can speak in terms of being "free," some of us are MORE "free" than others. Of course, we can get into interesting arguments about how the wealthy are slaves to their wealth, and they'll lose it if they don't maintain it in certain ways, but like Mae West once said," I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is better." Now, conceivably, you could take to the hills to live a primitive existence 'far from the madding crowd.' But you won't be able to effectively escape the power of the system. Of course, the less dependent you are on the system,the more "free" you are...to some extent. But the option of going back to the land, just 'roughing it' up in the hills is probably not a possibility for some... and if everyone tried it, the American capitalist system would be interested in closing off this escape route. Why? Because in order to maintain the "freedom" of the affluent, someone has to do the dirty work...someone has to sacrifice himself or herself in order for the few to live well. In order for our system to operate, we must remain taxpayers and above all, consumers... Someone has to buy those products to keep the racket afloat. Of course, we do have some measure of freedom. We have a few choices in what kind of products we can buy. Should I buy this slave-produced pair of shoes that is manufactured in Taiwan (which will fall apart in three months), or should I buy this other pair of shoes made in Indonesia that will do the same? Of course, we are free within our own minds. 'In my soul, I am free.' Has a nice ring to it. But even our minds are fettered by the claptrap of the system not much freedom there. Then, there is the biological clock ticking away. Wasn't it Dylan who sang, "He who's not busy being born is busy dying." After many a summer, dies the swan.. After you've spent a your alotted time in the labor market, and you've suffered the thousand natural shocks which flesh is heir to...you're no longer marketable..and fini. But technology has made our lives more comfortable...but even that is accompanied by problems... and so it goes. On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Bard wrote: -Caveat Lector- ON FREEDOM "Freedom" is probably one of the most usedand misusedwords by politicians of all stripes. If anything, "freedom" is probably used more by statist politicians, the destroyers of freedom, than anyone else. Tyrants have almost always sold their tyranny to its victims in the name of "freedom." What is freedom and do you have a right to it? If you do, why? Before proceeding farther, take a moment to write down your answer to these questions. What is freedom? Do you have a right to it? If so, why? Your definition of freedom should be confined to one, brief sentence. If you claim
[CTRL] The real jfk jr. problem
-Caveat Lector- You know, I don't respond much to these, but with the recent events, I feel a need to. Granted, I am a firm believer that there is DEFINITELY a conspiracy there! But the real thing we have all missed, We take for granted the amount of possible conspiracy perpetrators, we have overlooked the fact that a human being is dead! Whether you liked him or not, republican or democrat, illuminati or Freemason, a human has died, we should at least show some sympathy to the families. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The real jfk jr. problem
-Caveat Lector- DIG- I think all of us DO have sympathy for the family. Some of us have been around long enough to remember mourning for other Kennedys (JFK and Bobby). At least, I was around back then...along with good old goat. On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, DIG Anonymous wrote: -Caveat Lector- You know, I don't respond much to these, but with the recent events, I feel a need to. Granted, I am a firm believer that there is DEFINITELY a conspiracy there! But the real thing we have all missed, We take for granted the amount of possible conspiracy perpetrators, we have overlooked the fact that a human being is dead! Whether you liked him or not, republican or democrat, illuminati or Freemason, a human has died, we should at least show some sympathy to the families. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Das GOAT's biography
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-07-18 08:23:54 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, DG, I meant that humorously; I've seen a few goats in my time I've seen what they can do to a garden. If there had been a GOAT in the Garden of Eden, he would have beaten Adam and Eve to the "fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" AND of the Tree of Life. LOL And I've got you beat: I quit grad school in disgust with 6 credits to go for my M.A. in English. Brown-nosing and back-stabbing aren't my style (front-stabbing is another story "Psychology" is even more of a farce. The attitude of the profession and tone of its politics had changed so radically from the '60s to the '90s, even here in "liberal" San Francisco (a town now half PC, half yuppie), that it seemed to me like a bad trip backward into the Stalinist '50s -- or forward into "1984." On the one hand, there were the psych instructors and their students (mostly young, hopeful radical feminists) who were using the field as an avenue for legitimizing sexual pathology and finding paying customers for their own little private "victim cults," while on the other hand, there were the department heads, Skinnerian lab-coat types who favored the "psychiatric" model of therapy -- "classify 'em, drug 'em, and warehouse 'em." Interning for awhile at a halfway house for medicated schizophrenics, I saw that attitude at work in the people who were evaluating my efforts. No therapy except "work therapy" (labor supporting the non-profit group) for the inmates, and very mercenary peer-pressure politics among the keepers. If you didn't share the chill Nazi-like attitude of their shrinks, you became an outcast. And congratulations on being the first person I've ever heard use the word "heuristic" outside of the classroom. Oh, goodie, a smiley-face on my paper! and a grumpy old fart's voice much of the time Jon Winokur call this type of person a "curmudgeon" and means it quite complimentarily. Mencken and Bierce were curmudgeons. Bierce, Twain, and Swift, good company indeed. But, blecchh, I'm too grumpy most of the time to bother laboring to turn bitter irony into sardonic HUMOR through "satire." Tenorlove who will only admit to being over 21, so is probably one of the older members of the list I'm an old Goat and proud of it. I've lived through my first half-century and now I'm looking forward to seeing my second millennium. Yow! Holy batshit, Sheepman! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ASPARTAME - Is There Poison in That Can?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thewinds.org/archive/medical/aspartame02-99.html "The thing that bugs me is that people think the Food and Drug Administration is protecting them -- it isn't. What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it's doing are as different as night and day." --Dr. Herbert L. Ley, former Commissioner of the FDA ASPARTAME Is There Poison in That Can? Two-hundred fifty miles off the east coast of the United States, 35,000 feet over the Atlantic Ocean, the early afternoon weather is clear and a jetstream tailwind speeds Transglobal Airlines Flight 901* toward New York's Kennedy International Airport. In the cockpit of 901 the captain straps on his oxygen mask as per FAA regulations because the co-pilot has left the right seat to tend to a biological need. Just before the pilot straps on the mask, however, he takes a large gulp from an aluminum can, finishing off a diet soda -- the only thing he has put in his stomach since breakfast. "Kennedy approach, TransGlobal Flight 901" says the Captain as he contacts Kennedy's Air Route Traffic Control Center. "TransGlobal 901, Kennedy approach, go ahead," the controller responds. "Kennedy, 901 inbound, flight level three-five-zero," the pilot replies, "two-five-zero miles east, request approach instructions." "901, Kennedy. Squawk three-two-zero-one." "901, roger," responds the pilot as he switches his transponder to the designated numbers. A few minutes pass, then, "901, Kennedy" the controller calls. No response. "901, Kennedy." Again, no reply. "TransGlobal 901, this is Kennedy approach, we have you on a descending right turn passing through flight level two-seven-zero. Climb and maintain three-five-zero, heading two-five-five degrees until further instructed." No response. "901, this is Kennedy approach. Come in." Nothing. "901, Kennedy we have you descending through flight level two-zero-zero at 4,000 feet per minute. Correct, climb and maintain three-five-zero." Further silence is followed by several more attempts by the controller to contact the airliner. Then: "Any aircraft in the vicinity of TransGlobal 901, this is Kennedy approach, we have lost 901 from transponder and ground radar. Please advise if you have radar contact or a visual on 901." -- In this fictional scenario, the pilot consumes, on an empty stomach, a diet soda containing the artificial sweetener aspartame, [a.k.a. NutraSweet, Equal, et al]. Shortly thereafter, the captain experiences a grand mal seizure, a kind of brain electrical short-circuiting, rendering him unconscious and causing the aircraft to descend into the Atlantic Ocean. Highly unlikely? Even ridiculous? Perhaps, but not as much so as one might think. Even calling the story "fictional" may not be entirely accurate. On September 8, 1994, US Air Flight 427, a Boeing 737-300, crashed while maneuvering to land at Pittsburgh International Airport. All 132 persons on board were killed. The Associated Press (AP) reported that Flight 427's cockpit voice recorder indicates "the flight was routine until the final seconds. "Capt. Peter Germano," the AP report continued, "sips a cranberry orange juice and Diet Sprite drink ten minutes before the crash" Coincidence? Possibly. THE FLIGHT OF CAPTAIN HAROLD WILSON THE INCIDENT: At approximately 4:00 p.m. on August 13, 1987 Harold Wilson, an Australian-born pilot flying for the Alaska commuter airline Peninsula Airways, was approximately 1,000 miles out of Anchorage at 10,000 feet headed west over the Bering Sea. Captain Wilson was ferrying charter passengers to a fishing fleet en route to Atka, the most remote of inhabited islands in the Aleutian archipelago, when his life in a moment of time was changed forever. Capt. Wilson told The WINDS that with absolutely no warning whatever he went totally unconscious, his brain shutting off like a switch. "The first thing I recall was waking up afterwards," Capt. Wilson said, "and the passengers were wondering what in the world was going on. They thought I'd had a heart attack. "I was still gripping the aircraft's controls," Wilson recalled, "and had collapsed over the throttles disengaging the autopilot." The turboprop commuter plane then began a nose-down tight left turn corkscrewing toward the water two miles below. The first indication the passengers had that something wasn't right was when they heard the loud squeal from the autopilot's disengagement alarm. They then rushed to the cockpit, Wilson remarked, upsetting further the airplane's forward center of gravity which exacerbated and steepened their spiraling dive to the Bering Sea. By the time Capt. Wilson regained consciousness, they had plunged from 10,000 to less than 1500 feet. Wilson, a former flight instructor and aircraft engineer, was told that by the time one of the
[CTRL] book: Corruption 'rife in Vatican'
-Caveat Lector- http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001801733226889rtmo= VZwGlxwxatmo=pg=/et/99/6/28/wvat28.html Retired prelate is accused over Vatican exposé By Bruce Johnston in Rome A BOOK which claims to expose corruption, blind ambition, cronyism and sexual shenanigans in the Vatican has enraged Church authorities, who accuse an elderly prelate of its authorship. The Roman Rota or ecclesiastical tribunal, acting on a report by someone claiming to be an injured party, alleges that Mgr Luigi Marinelli wrote Via Col Vento in Vaticano (Gone with the Wind in the Vatican), and has ordered him to appear for questioning with a lawyer. The prelate, who retired last year from the Congregation for Eastern Churches, has also been told to withdraw the book from circulation, and to halt any translations. The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, formerly the Inquisition, is also said to have opened a case against Mgr Marinelli over the alleged violation of Vatican secrets. The name of the author appearing on copies of the book published by Kaos Edizioni of Milan is "I Millenari", meaning the Millenarians. But the Rota says that Millenari is also an anagram of "Marinelli". Mgr Marinelli, while not denying involvement, has replied that the book was clearly co-authored, and claims that he is a scapegoat. The book, which names many of those it accuses, also again questions whether the death of Pope John Paul I was natural, and discloses the back-stabbing that went on in the fight for one of the Vatican's highest posts. It talks of cartels of power in the Vatican and of one monsignor regularly locking himself in his Vatican office at night with handsome young men "to do urgent work", and of a prelate being caught at the Swiss border with suitcases stuffed with dollars. One "elderly priest" showered so many presents on influential people in Rome that he became known as "Father Christmas" until one of his beneficiaries had him made a bishop, at the age of 72. He then "squandered millions", and various items of diocesan property mortgaged by him, including the bishop's palace and cathedral, were sold. "When he died, it was discovered that he had passed them to his natural son, who had never stopped blackmailing him," the book says. © Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 1999. - http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001801733226889rtmo= Lib3Ghidatmo=pg=/et/99/7/15/wvat15.html Corruption 'rife in Vatican' By Bruce Johnston in Rome AN Italian prelate who co-authored a book about alleged widespread sex, power and cronyism inside the Vatican said yesterday that Satan had "entered the Church". Luigi Marinelli said he would not be attending a hearing tomorrow to answer for the book, Gone With the Wind in the Vatican, as ordered by the Sacred Roman Rota, the Holy See's highest appeals court. He told Italian state television news: "I won't be attending because I don't want to blow the matter up any further." In another interview, he said the move against him was absurd and "mistaken in method and merit". It ignored his rights under Canon Law to discuss the matter first with his superiors. The book accuses the Vatican of careerism, Freemasonry, sex and corruption. It has sold 100,000 copies since its publication in Italy in February. The Vatican's reaction has merely fuelled demand. The Vatican has taken steps to stop the pro-homosexual campaigning of a priest and a nun in America. Robert Nungent and Jeannine Gramaick have been told that they are to be punished by the Sacred Congregation of the Faith for their "ambiguous opinions". © Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 1999. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pope, Holocaust, falsehoods
-Caveat Lector- http://etherzone.com/Brennan.html Wednesday July 14, 1999 A POPE AND A LAWMAN -- LIES, MYTHS AND SLANDERS By: Phil Brennan Phil Lawler, the editor of Catholic World Report and a brilliant writer not to be trifled with, has had it, and in a blistering editorial in the July issue of CWR he expressed his disgust with the constant drumfire of criticism of the actions of late Pope Pius XXII in the face of the Holocaust. What set him off was a speech delivered to a New York audience by Rabbi Marvin Heir of the Simon Weisenthal Center during which Heir alleged that his Holiness "preferred silence" about the Holocaust. Heir than went on to assert that the Pope "sat on the throne of Peter in stony silence, without even lifting a finger" during World War II when Jews were being slaughtered by the Nazis. The statements were bald faced lies, and provably so. But Heir wasn't finished slandering the late Pontiff. He also claimed that "the Vatican adamantly refuses to open their files on the period." because the evidence concealed in those files would establish the Pope's guilt. Says Lawler: "Each of these statements is demonstrably false. Pope Pius XII was not 'silent' during the years of the Holocaust. He spoke out forcefully against the Nazis. Both during and after the war, objective witnesses testified to the power of the Pope's statements." Phil Lawler went on to cite examples: In 1941 the NY Times published a pre-Christmas editorial which said the Pope had "put himself squarely against Hitlerism" and having "left no doubt that the Nazi aims are also irreconcilable with his own conception of Christian peace." According to the late Golda Meir, a former Israeli prime minister: "When fearful martyrdom came to our people in the decade of Nazi terror, the voice of the Pope was raised for the victims. The life of our times was enriched by a voice speaking out on the great moral truths above the tumult of daily conflict." Before he became Pope, Cardinal Pacelli served as papal nuncio in Germany and later as Vatican Secretary of State. Writes Lawler: "In each post he repeatedly clashed with the Nazi leadership. In 1937, he helped Pius XI draft the encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge, a condemnation of Nazi ideology which was read from pulpits throughout Germany. In his own introduction to the encyclical Cardinal Pacelli warned against a 'war of extermination' which he feared the Nazis would unleash. "During the worst years of the Holocaust," Lawler writes, "the Pope was directly or indirectly responsible for saving the lives of thousands\sands of Jews. Israeli diplomat Pinchas Lapide "estimated that the Pope was personally responsible for the lives of 700,000 Jews. "The chief Rabbi of Rome was so moved by the Pope's efforts that he became a devoted friend of Pius XII - and, eventually, a convert to the Catholic faith. "Writing in the Jewish Anti-Defamation League's Bulletin in 1958, Dr. Joseph Lichen said that the late Pontiff's 'opposition to Nazism and his efforts to help Jews in Europe were well known to the suffering world.' " Heir's absurd claim that the Vatican refuses to open its World War II and Holocaust archives gets short shrift from Lawler: "In fact, at the request of Pope Paul VI, a group of historians examined the material in those archives and produced an 11-volume report, containing abundant evidence of the Vatican's active involvement in efforts to save Jewish lives." Lawler then quotes Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls as saying that there is "nothing - I repeat, nothing" remaining in the archives that has not already been made available to scholars. Why, Lawler asks, "...would Rabbi Hier claim that the archives are sealed, when in fact they have been opened, and the evidence they contain has been made public? Could it be because the evidence exonerates the Pope - and confounds critics like Rabbi Hier himself. "Why would Rabbi Hier claim that Pius XII did nothing to oppose the Holocaust, when in fact the Pope was more vocal and more active in opposition to the Nazis than any other world leader. Why would he contradict the testimony of prominent Jewish leaders of the past, like Meir, Lapide, and Lichen? At best Hier is speaking about a subject of which he is woefully ignorant; at worst, he is slandering the memory of a great religious leader." Lawler laments the continuing campaign of slander against Pope Pius XII, and recommends "several fine historical studies - by the Jesuit scholars Pierre Blet ad Robert Graham,Sister Margherita Mercione, Charles Pichon and Oscar Halecki among others - each of which demolishes the arguments that underlie the smears." "How long will Catholics tolerate such
Re: [CTRL] JFK Jr.- weather radar images missing
-Caveat Lector- Bill, What evidence is there that these radar images are missing? This is the first I've heard of it and I've been camped in front of the TV and of the Internet for 2 days. Hilary -- From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] JFK Jr.- weather radar images missing Date: Sunday, July 18, 1999 1:20 PM -Caveat Lector- From: NewsHawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 Subj: JFK Jr. Disappearance/Addition Regarding the disappearance of John F. Kennedy's plane and all passengers: weather radar images, which have proven useful a number of times in spotting anomalous electromagnetic/radio frequency phenomena, are missing from the archives for the eastern Long Island/Martha's Vineyard area during two critical hours during which JFK Jr.'s plane apparently crashed/disappeared. This is significant due to that fact that Kennedy's plane was most likely taken down intentionally by a hostile action, most likely using an exotic weapons system. We have noted that a particle beam weapons system is in place at the New World Order's secret underground base beneath Montauk Point, RIGHT NEAR where the plane was last caught on radar, going down. John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Fwd: [[TheEagle-L] Gov.Lab. test-fired RHIC on Long Island on 7/16/99]]
Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 A NUCLEAR accelerator designed to replicate the Big Bang is under investigation by international physicists because of fears that it might cause "perturbations of the universe" that could destroy the Earth. One theory even suggests that it could create a black hole. Brookhaven National Laboratories (BNL), one of the American government's foremost research bodies, has spent eight years building its Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) on LONG ISLAND in New York state. A successful test-firing was held on FRIDAY (July 16, 1999) and the first nuclear collisions will take place in the autumn, building up to full power around the time of the millennium. Last week, however, John Marburger, Brookhaven's director, set up a committee of physicists to investigate whether the project could go disastrously wrong. It followed warnings by other physicists that there was a tiny but real risk that the machine, the most powerful of its kind in the world, had the power to create "STRANGLETS" - a new type of matter made up of sub-atomic particles called "STRANGE QUARKS". The committee is to examine the possibility that, once formed, strangelets might start an uncontrollable chain reaction that could convert anything they touched into more strange matter. The committee will also consider an alternative, although less likely, possibility that the colliding particles could achieve such a high density that they would form a MINI BLACK HOLE. In space, black holes are believed to generate intense gravitational fields that suck in all surrounding matter. The creation of one on Earth could be disastrous. Professor Bob Jaffe, director of the Centre for Theoretical Physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who is on the committee, said he believed the risk was tiny but could not be ruled out. "THERE HAVE BEEN FEARS THAT STRANGE MATTER COULD ALTER THE STRUCTURE OF ANYTHING NEARBY. The risk is exceedingly small but the probability of something unusual happening is not zero." ...the above article appeared on SUNDAY TIMES (BRITAIN) on July 18, 1999, under the title: "Big Bang machine could destroy earth" and was written by Jonathan Leake, Science Editor: A HREF="http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/07/18/stinwenws02029.htm l?999"THE SUNDAY TIMES: NEWS /A http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/07/18/stinwenws02029.html?999 from Norio Hayakawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] SIGN UP NOW FOR FREE HOME IMPROVEMENT HOW-TO'S Receive seasonal how-to's and climate-specific advice via e-mail. http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/131 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/theeagle-l http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-124, Peace 18, July 16 - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's Kosovo War and Peace
FROM NEW YORK All 123 earlier Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's Kosovo War and "Peace" can also be seen at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org, along with numerous photos and other memorable images. The TiM GW Bulletins are now divided into two sections: NATO's War (106 issues) and NATO's "Peace" (18 issues). Issue S99-124, "Peace" 18 -- July 16, 1999 HEADLINES Pristina1. Killing and Pillaging Continues Under KFORs Watchful Eyes Belgrade 2. Revenge of the Rats California 3. The Last Straw: Bill Designed to Kill Serb Children (by Mary Mostert) New York 4. Buckleys National Review Libels Serbs, Then Apologizes for Slanderous Comment Rome 5. Dozens of NATO Bombs Found in Italy -- 1. Killing and Pillaging Continues Under KFORs Watchful Eyes PRISTINA, July 16 - Killing of Kosovo Serb civilians and pillaging of their property continues under KFORs watchful eyes, our sources within the Serbian Orthodox Church (SOC) report. Under the cover of the western media headlines filled with stories about the alleged Serb atrocities during the war, there is an open season on Serb civilians who are being slaughtered every day by the Kosovo Albanians. Serb priests have become the only reliable source of information about whats really going on in Kosovo these days. And based on the dispatches which we have been getting from the SOC sources this week, every day several Serbs are murdered in cold blood, while their property is taken away or destroyed. As a result, the World Food Program officials estimate that there are now about 146,000 Serb refugees in Serbia who have fled their homes in Kosovo. Heres just a small sampling of crimes being committed against the Serbs during NATOs Kosovo peace, excerpted from todays SOC news dispatch: Tonight, Albanians have smashed the windows on Metropolis building in Pristina. This is an ancient residence of bishops and a place for gathering of the faithful. In the conversation with the priests from Pristina, we have been informed today that the Serbian houses in Pristina are continuously on fire, so the smell of smoke is always in the air. Yesterday, at 17:00, Bozidar Davcetovic, a Serb from Pristina, was shot and killed by Albanians while in the town on some business. His corpse was buried today by the priest Milorad Cvetkovic. Only three persons attended the funeral. Albanians have set fire to the church in Samodreza village, eight kilometers away from Vucitrn, today. The church has been significantly damaged, especially its altar and other valuables. Albanians have damaged the Holy Trinity church, built 4 years ago, in the refugee settlement in Velika Reka, near Vucitrn. Yesterday, in Slovinje village, Albanians blew up an Orthodox church which dates back to the 16th century, located only 70m (80 yards) in front of the KFOR military base. Yesterday, in Gornji Livac village, near Gnjilane, Albanians wounded Zivorad Jankovic and his son Zoran, at the time when they went out to their farm to feed the cattle. In Klina, the church situated at the Serbian Orthodox graveyard was demolished. In Petric village, the church was blown up, and completely destroyed. The Karic brothers erected this church 7-8 years ago. In Dolac village the church was burned to ashes. The church in Drsnik village was completely destroyed too. The church in Urekovac was demolished, the parish center was partly burned down and partly demolished. In Pecka Banja, the altar in the church was partly charred and partly demolished. Reliable sources have reported that the Orthodox church in Urosevac has also been set on fire, but this has not been confirmed. Milovan Kojic, priest from Lipljan, and Ljubisa Crvenkovic, member of the Human Rights Protection Board, have given us additional information on the situation of the Serbs in Lipljan, on the Holy Day dedicated to Saints Peter and Paul July 12. In the main streets of Lipljan, in which the Serbs form 95% of the population, a huge number of Albanians, mainly from the other parts of the province, gathered and started their rampaging against the local Serbs: setting of the Serbian houses on fire, throwing Molotov cocktails and tossing hand grenades. About 11:00, Serbian houses in Aca Marovic Street were hurled stones at. Molotov cocktails were hurled at four Serbian houses and at Ljubinko Andjelkovics business premises. Three houses were mostly burned due to that, but the Serbs managed to extinguish the fire in the mentioned business premises. At 13:30, Albanians tossed a grenade at Miladin Mladenovics house, and thereat Miladins son Zoran, aged 32, and Zorans friend Sorde Kosinac, aged 33, refugee from Stimlje, were wounded. KFOR drove both of
[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] DRUDGE REPORT CONFIRMS KENNEDY AND NY SENATE RUN
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE FOLLOWING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE DRUDGE REPORT RIGHT NOW 1:11PM PST MAG: Kennedy might well have run for the U.S. Senate from New York in 2000 if First Lady Hillary Clinton had not begun a campaign... A HREF="http://www.drudgereport.com/"DRUDGE REPORT '99®/A RMNews believes that JFK, Jr. believed former Clinton advisor Dick Morris who has been saying that Hillary will not run for the Senate seat in New York. Morris believes Hillary will campaign and raise millions of dollars, but at the last moment, she will pull out and keep the money for herself. If JFK, Jr. also believed this, then he may very well have decided in the last week to challenge Hillary in the primary. This morning on Meet the Press, Tim Russert was extremely focused on whether or not JFK, Jr had decided to enter a political race. Former Clinton aide, Paul Begala confirmed that JFK, Jr. had been approached by the Democratic Party to run for either Senator or Governor of New York. ALSO ON THE DRUDGE REPORT TODAY From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Warren) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a report on Drudge saying a reporter who was out walking says he saw a flash of light in the sky about the time JFK Jr.s plane may have gone down. I urge everyone to check it out on Drudge's web site. I've also included the article below. "A reporter for the Vineyard Gazette newspaper told WCVB-TV in Boston that he was out walking Friday night about the time of the crash and saw "big white flash in the sky" off Philbin Beach." Hopes fade for missing Kennedy plane Sunday, 18 July 1999 2:08 (GMT) (NOTE: federal investigators dispatched) (UPI Focus) Hopes fade for missing Kennedy plane AQUINNAH, Mass., July 17 (UPI) - After a daylong unsuccessful search for a missing single-engine plane piloted by John F. Kennedy Jr., the National Transportation Safety Board is launching an investigation into the aircraft's disappearance. An official statement tonight says an NTSB team has been dispatched to Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts as the Coast Guard continues to coordinate "aggressive search-and-rescue activities." As daylight faded, Air Force helicopters returned to Otis Air Force Base, to resume the search Sunday morning. Hopes faded today as bits of debris from the Piper Saratoga were recovered and a piece of luggage was positively identified as belonging to Lauren Bessette, Kennedy's sister-in-law. Kennedy's wife, 33-year-old Carolyn Bessette, was also traveling with him. The luggage, along with what appeared to be an airplane tire, washed up on Philbin Beach on Martha's Vineyard, and Lauren Bessette's name was on the tag of a black suitcase, said First District Coast Guard spokesman Lt. Gary Jones. Jones said other debris - a head rest and carpeting that appeared to be from the plane - were found this afternoon floating in the water about 100 yards from nearby Gay Head Beach. Kennedy and the Bessette sisters were traveling from Caldwell, New Jersey, to Hyannis Port for the wedding of Mark Bailey and Rory Kennedy, the last unmarried daughter of Ethel Kennedy and the late Sen. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The event was postponed, and what should have been a joyous gathering of the clan turned into a grim vigil as members of the Kennedy family waited anxiously at their storied oceanfront compound for word on the fate of the three. An outdoor family mass was held, presided over by three Roman Catholic priests, as Mrs. Kennedy, other family members and around 275 guests gathered to pray. Among those present were Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., former U.S. Rep. Joseph Kennedy, Rory's older brother and JFK Jr.'s cousin, and U.S. Housing Secretary Andrew Cuomo, who is married to Kerry Kennedy. John Kennedy's older sister, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, was away on a rafting trip and had not planned to attend the wedding. Sen. Kennedy's son, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., was also away in California and immediately flew back to Boston, according to media reports. Family spokesman Brian O'Connor said the family was initially hopeful that the three would be found alive. But he said the mood at the compound turned somber when debris, apparently from the plane, began washing up on the western end of Martha's Vineyard. There was no immediate comment from any of the family members. Before the effort was scaled back at sunset, Rear Adm. Richard M. Larrabee told journalists the Coast Guard was still in a search-and- rescue mode. But the dispatch of federal investigators suggests authorities are now presuming the plane has crashed. Coast Guard cutters equipped with high-powered lights will continue to search the sea south of Martha's Vineyard throughout the night. Earlier in the day, the Civil Air Patrol withdrew from the search 15 aircraft that were combing a 15-by-15-mile grid
[CTRL] Watch FoxNewsChannel 6:30PM PacTime USCG JFK Report
-Caveat Lector- New developments!! Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The real jfk jr. problem
-Caveat Lector- While I sympathize with the families in their worry about their loved ones, I will not speak of JFK Jr or the Bessette women in the past tense until I have received confirmation of their deaths. As of 10:05pm EDT, Sunday, July 18, 1999, I have not yet received that word. Tenorlove --- DIG Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- You know, I don't respond much to these, but with the recent events, I feel a need to. Granted, I am a firm believer that there is DEFINITELY a conspiracy there! But the real thing we have all missed, We take for granted the amount of possible conspiracy perpetrators, we have overlooked the fact that a human being is dead! Whether you liked him or not, republican or democrat, illuminati or Freemason, a human has died, we should at least show some sympathy to the families. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Brice Taylor radio interview
-Caveat Lector- Hi ! Here' s some information on an "alleged" MC survivor. Sincerely, Neil Brick from: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-24.htm Brice Taylor Article The following article comes from an interview of Brice Taylor on CKLN Radio (Tape 43A) by Wayne Morris. Please use caution while reading. It may be triggering. Information will follow the article about Brice's books and CKLN's tapes. Please note: all accusations are alleged. "Brice Taylor, a former mind controlled, Presidential model sex slave programmed to sexually service a number of U.S. presidents, foreign dignitaries and other power brokers while maintaining a family life in which she had no idea she was being used by the government. They had gained this total control of her by her father trauma conditioning her from infancy involving sexual abuse, deprivation, ritual trauma, drugs, hypnosis and electricity, all of which created many dissociated identities which were then programmed for certain tasks." She discusses a member of the National Security Agency and the New World Order. "What I understood was that they (the New World Order) were planning a complete and utter economic collapse of the nations that would make the Depression of 1929 look like child's play and through that, bringing people financially to their knees, they would then come in and control them, by bringing in whatever other measures they would need the guise of rescue - when it certainly wouldn't be that at all. Personally I would like to put a call out to people who are in any way spiritually connected, knowing that this plan would never be able to be brought about if we are spiritually connected and take action. My belief is that the people, even at the higher levels that are participating, may be participating without knowing what they have been participating in, such as members of the intelligence community who have been compartmentalized in their knowledge of what projects they were participating in. I would certainly put scientists that are inventors in that category. I would put people that are in the Masonic Order that are perhaps at the lower levels and are serving the plan at the higher levels without realizing that what they are putting their actions into thinking that they are helping children and people that are in need of help - when what they are doing actually is serving the highest levels of evil and corruption and destruction of men, women and children for use by others. People need to realize that these people they are serving are turning against their own and that we need to take back our own spiritual power and stay connected spiritually in order to know what to do and how to act, and how to see the truth, and how to discern what lies and propaganda and strategies have been portrayed over the television, in newspapers and in movies with intentional strategies. I sat with the men who strategized about what thoughts and belief systems they were trying to get people to adopt so that they could continue with their plans. Mind control was their ace in the hole this generation, because they felt that there couldn't be any mess-ups, and no human frailty or weakness of mind or conscience if people were under mind control. So I would just ask people to please open their eyes, and to begin to not just take what they see that is given out by the government and the intelligence community as truth and reality, but to begin to question and think on their own." Morris: "What do you feel that the public can do to thwart their intentions?" Taylor: "I think people need to contact their local politicians and demand information be divulged about the government experiments, the medical, radiation, drug experiments, mind control experiments - all of that. I think as people start learning about the internal structure of the Masonic Order and how the programming works and how people's brain waves can be altered, even at a distance ... I think people need to get very informed and educated about what has gone on. I think we need to begin to simplify our lives ... financially and in all ways in order to be able to take the time to evolve spiritually and see what's really going on and connect deeply. Unfortunately I think we are going to go through tough times, but we will have the opportunity to make a spiritual stand as people were during the times of Nazi Germany where they housed babies and people who were going to be killed due to a sick genetic belief system. I believe that as we are able to really take a stand and understand and help others, that it will turn things around, but I think a lot has been put into place and it's going to take some time to undo it ... obviously with all the people who are under mind control who need to be healed." "Morris: I want to also to talk about the criminal connection to other organized crime, and particularly trafficking in children, and I wondered if you could shed any information about what you have
[CTRL] Artificial Intelligence Alien Intelligence
-Caveat Lector- "The Race Gets What It Needs." Herbert The part in Clarkes 2001 A Space Oddysey, at the beginning, where the apes arechangedby the extraterrestrial artifact, is fanciful, but not very likely. I tell you the thing that lives here through us, or, more correctly, We live here through It, and are but a Small Part it...that thing is serious and it LEARNS and it BUILDS. Energy transforms matter constantly, aeonically, and compared to the ages and the emptiness we are a form of fire. It is slow enough now, and enough of the initial transforming energys have been sloughed off, so for a short time we are the fire that burns here, as one form of the fire of the Burning Universe. I infer from activitys gleaned from acute observation that there are electronics at work today that are truly an alien life form. We don't need UFO's folks, leaking technology, or human food-soul channeling from the All. Its quite possible this is here right now, and used to control. The Non-von Neumann coupled with super surveillance technology based on Recognition , Ultra Inference and Worldwide Communications Networks. The code in the dirt here which is a form of firelife burns the dirt and we are part of its fire, and we have been given a piece of the All, and contribute ignorantly self destructive, and magnificently bold, to the identity. The subversion of this type of technology for control purposes is paramount to anti-survival behaviour, and isn't that funny, just as we invent the next form of Life? The Fifth Generation Artificial Intelligence and Japan's Computer Challenge to the World Edward A. Feigenbaum Pamela McCorduck 1983 Part 6 Chapter 18. AI and The National Defense "As was pointed out earlier , we have never felt comfortable as a nation undertaking a large project merely for the common good of the people. We have managed, however, to spend a lot of money on useful (And not so useful) things, as long as we could persuade ourselves it was in the national defense. Artificial Intelligence is among these. When no corporation or foundation chose to take AI seriously, or could afford to, The Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) of the Department of Defense supported it through two decades of absolutely vital but highly risky research. Since The pentagon is often perceived as the national villian, especially by intellectuals, its a pleasure to report that in one enlightened corner of it, human beings were betting taxpayers money on projects that would have major benefits for the whole human race. In the late 1970's, as some parts of the technology were ready to move beyond research, and into developement, venture capitalists and industrialists flocked to AI technical meetings, and either adapted the technology to their own needs or set up firms especially to do AI. But the early cultivation had been supported by ARPA, which deserves credit for its enlightened scientific leadership. Artificial Intelligence has gone out into the world, for better or for worse, for commerce or defense. The Japanese plan to rear this infant to full commercial adulthood. WE BELIEVE THAT AMERICANS SHOULD MOUNT A LARGE SCALE CONCENTRATED PROJECT OF OUR OWN; THAT NOT ONLY IS IT IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST TO DO SO, BUT IT IS ESSENTIAL TO THE NATIONAL DEFENSE. The so called smart weapons of 1982, for all their sophisticated modern electronics, are really just extremely complex wind-up toys compared to the weapons systems that will be possible in a decade if Intelligent Information Processing Systems are applied to the defense problems of the 1990s. In the summer of 1982, Feigenbaum was asked to give scientific testimony on the current state of research and developement in AI and expert systems to a panel of the Defense Science Board, the highest level scientific group that advises the U.S. Department of Defense. The panels charter was to assess the possible impact of a large number of current technologies (it is rumored they examined 70 to 80) on the Defense of The United States. In The report of the panel, AI ranked seventh using an opportunity-versus-risk measure, and second using an opportunity measure." luxefaire.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL
[CTRL] Forbes (Ralph) on Clinton WWIII
I wish I could say that I thought this was nonsense, but I do not. Let's hope and pray there is nothing to it! AKE http://www.spotlight.org/Subscriptions/Forbes/forbes.html Forbes.url Forbes.url
Re: [CTRL] CONSPIRACY Re: JFK Jr's Plane is missing (fwd)
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MSNBC reports this evening that the US Coast Guard has changed the mission
to "search and recovery," indicating that JFK II Co. are now presumed
dead. Based on that, in light of this tragic accident, regardless of whether
it could have been avoided or not, what about reckless behavior?
JFK II was a multimillionare who bought a _used_ single-engine plane and
piloted the plane with so few hours in the air, at night, maybe even knowing
of the haze that many other pilots knew of. Talk about reckless behavior
According to reports, his sister-in-law was late arriving at the New Jersey
airport, and they ended up flying at night. What about waiting till morning?
What about a commercial flight? Instead, he elected to fly that fateful
night. I write "he" b/c he was the pilot, and naturally made the final
decision. [Remember, reports indicate that JFK II claims only 300 hours of
cockpit pilot experience.] Talk about reckless behavior
In addition, according to reports, JFK Jr. may have been wearing a cast. If
so, what business did he have flying the plane with a cast? [On a personal
note, I wore a cast for nearly 12 weeks on my left foot and recall how
limited I was in all my activities. I would not have even dared to fly a
plane. Let alone, with any passengers.] Talk about reckless behavior
Also, witnesses at the Jersey airport report that JFK II did _not_ observe
the proper safety precautions prior to lifting off. Rather than running the
plane up and down the strip, he used the parking area, witnesses say. The
witnesses add that there may have been indications at that time that there
was something wrong with the single-engine plane. Talk about reckless
behavior
Multimillionare buys used single-engine plane. Flying at night, without,
quite possibly, taking into consideration hazardous weather. Too few hours
of piloting for those conditions. Possibly wearing a cast while trying to
operate a plane with two other lives on board, in addition to his own. Still
in question whether precautionary measures were taken prior to lift-off. All
examples of reckless behavior by someone who either had a death wish or used
very poor foolish/cocky judgement.
Lastly, if anyone has made this into a bigger-than-life story, it's the
media who salivates over these kinds of tragedies. When the media keeps
referring to the "American public sitting and waiting" they exagerrate the
obvious. Folks have there own lives to worry about and have accepted that
the rich take more risks on a daily basis simply because they can afford to.
Many in the media are rich themselves, and socialize with the Kennedys of
this world. If anyone is sitting by the tube and sobbing more than anyone
else, it's the media.
Regards,
-A
MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
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LOOK, how can ANYONE bad mouth another for suspecting murder,
etc?!?! Auyookiddin ME!!?
Unfortunately for the Clinton Administration, neither anything
that happens to a person who has any political connections at
all, nor anything that is exceptionally newsworthy that pushes a
Clinton scandal off of the news can escape the suspicion that the
hand of the Administration is once again at work. It has
happened too many times for us not to look at any seeming
"accident" with a jaundiced eye.
Best,
Mike
P.S. What's up with www.georgemagazine.com
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Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?
-Caveat Lector- Ric, Looks like Drudge just did. Seen his latest? Will forward if not already posted to list. Amelia - Original Message - From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately? -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Amelia Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any one finds out if it is true he was going to run against Hillary in NY, please let us know pronto. We must watch devel- opments closely as they changed from day to day in the Columbine incident. Also watch to see if anyone manufactures 'evidence' of such a run. - Original Message - From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it DOES seem more than a tad coincidental that he would disappear in roughly the same area that TWA800 went down, three years to the day of that tragedy... And 30 years to the day after Chappaquiddick. Sorry, not "to the day": MJK died on 18 July 1969; TWA 800 blew on 17 July 1996. JFK Jr. augured-in on 16 July 1999; Close, but no cigar. Today in History for Sunday, Jul 18 In 1938, pilot Douglas Corrigan earned the nickname "Wrong Way" when he landed in Ireland instead of California after a flight from New York. In 1977, Vietnam was admitted to the United Nations. In 1969, a car driven by Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., plunged into a pond on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts, killing his passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne. In 1984, a gunman opened fire at a McDonald's restaurant in San Ysidro, Calif., killing 21 people. In 1992, youths rampaged for a second night in southwest England following the deaths of two young men on a stolen police motorcycle. In 1994, a car bombing in Buenos Aires, Argentina, killed some 100 people in or near a building that housed Jewish organizations. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric * ICQ# 19633976 * * *** SkeptiChat: sliding down the razor-blade of life *** now featuring SkeptiNews: All The News That's Fit To Question email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Happy Coincidence--Let's Change the Subject!
-Caveat Lector- Don Larson, who threw the only perfect game ever in the World Series, in 1956, threw out the ceremonial first pitch at Yankee Stadium today. The pitcher for the Yankees, David Cone, proceeded to throw a perfect game. Tenorlove _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Happy Coincidence--Let's Change the Subject!
-Caveat Lector- All right!! Now if only the Red Sox would disappear in a plane... On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- Don Larson, who threw the only perfect game ever in the World Series, in 1956, threw out the ceremonial first pitch at Yankee Stadium today. The pitcher for the Yankees, David Cone, proceeded to throw a perfect game. Tenorlove _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] .. illusion of the vote .. our continued bondage.
-Caveat Lector- THE VOTER'S OATH The Voter's Oath is a statement of sovereignty. Although stated as a negative, it means that one's vote or life is inviolate. It exposes the illusion of the vote in the nation-state where we only vote for our continued bondage. The second part of the Voter's Oath, The Declaration of a Freeman, presents the proper foundation of the sovereign vote, economic freedom. If we are not voting from our economic freedom, we can never vote for our freedom. Only from our economic freedom is our vote a vote that actually represents our individual sovereignty. To fully comprehend The Voter's Oath, it is first necessary to understand that today, in the United States of America, we are no longer free. The vote as we know it no longer is an unalienable right but rather a civil (governmental) right. How we lost our freedom is both a long and frightening story. Its root lies in the takeover of the monetary system that occurred between the years of 1913, with the creation of the Federal Reserve System and the Internal Revenue System, and 1933 with the bankruptcy of the United States, the War Powers Act, and the confiscation of gold. In its place was put a monopolized credit/debt paper money scheme. If you doubt this just pull a dollar bill from your wallet and look at who holds title to it. It is not we the people. The United States of America has been the greatest experiment in freedom to date. Inevitably, its failure lies in its metaphysics which was not adequately constructed to insure individual liberty. Its collapse into a nation-state was predictable. By definition, a nation-state is a construct (structure) that, in locating sovereignty in the government, precludes an individual's freedom (unalienable rights). Sovereign immunity, executive order (decree), and (property) forfeiture are all aspects of a nation-state. By default, all citizens are now nation-state (federal) citizens possessing civil rights as defined by the government rather than unalienable rights* which define the government. The Voter's Oath begins our psychic separation from the nation-state. Many people find this difficult having been led to believe that the vote by itself is somehow sacrosanct and guarantees our freedom. It is and does when you are free to begin with. If not, it presents only an illusion of freedom. Today, when you register to vote, you are actually consigning yourself as a federal (taxpaying) citizen, now possessing the privilege to vote for your own continued bondage (debt) in the nation-state. You see, we cannot vote for our freedom. We can only vote from our freedom. The Voter's Oath represents nothing less than a total evolution. It is an evolution out of the confines of the limited metaphysics of the nation-state and its debt into the sovereignty, dignity, and freedom of each and every individual. It is also an evolution of individual conscience. It represents a strike, if you will. It is simply a statement to those politicians who claim to represent you. It tells them, you don't represent me; I represent myself. It is one's stand for one's own life and family. The Voter's Oath is presented so you can sign it and send it to those politicians (who claim to represent you) at the local, state, and national levels. I recommend you do this every year just so they don't forget who you are.** http://www.manandwomanbalance.com/voters.html Break Free Take the Voter's Oath http://www.manandwomanbalance.com/oath.html Click above to get the Voter's Oath * See What Ever Happened To Our Unalienable Rights?, Christopher Alan Anderson, 1998 ** See http://www.congress.org/search.html for E-mail addresses for national politicians. Last Update: May 25, 1999 Copyright ©19961999 by Anderson's Publications ALL RIGHTS RESERVED --- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --- John Adams 1735-1826 "Love alone is capable of uniting living beings in such a way as to complete and fulfill them, for it alone takes them and joins them by what is deepest in themselves." --- Pierre Teilharde De Chardin Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is
[CTRL] [Fwd: JFK Jr. Disappearance/More Inconsistencies and Loose Ends]
Has this fact been mentioned in any media this past weeekend: Furthermore, this tragedy occurred but one day from the 30th anniversary of the Chappaquidick incident involving Ted Kennedy... If not, Why? -A From: NewsHawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] © 1999 NewsHawk Inc. All Rights Reserved News reports have mentioned that some people saw and heard an explosion in the air over the ocean south of Martha's Vineyard towards eastern Long Island, during the period of time John F. Kennedy's plane apparently "went missing". An earlier report from about 3 PM on Saturday by Shephard Smith of FOX-TV named one of these witnesses--in fact a guest at the scheduled wedding JFK. Jr. was due to attend AND a friend of Smith's producer at Fox. In later reports Smith no longer named this witness and referred to such accounts as "unconfirmed", which is how the rest of the media is referring to them. Don't expect these reports of an explosion over the ocean to ever be confirmed either, by the Clinton/NWO bunch. No doubt JFK Jr. was taken out. It certainly doesn't sound as though Kennedy's plane had any standard mechanical problems--as such usually don't result in the plane igniting into a fireball visible and audible miles away! We've received word that Kennedy had been in fact nosing around several lingering conspiracies; having just published an article in George about the Rabin assassination in Israel and about to put together an article on the attempted assassination of George Wallace in the U.S., and the socio-political forces behind the Wallace hit. There is also an angle here of power struggles between varying families, bloodlines and factions thereof. Of course JFK Jr.'s bloodline is well-known. Indications are the Kennedys are in fact related to the Camerons--a family which has shown up repeatedly in secret society/ brotherhood circles tied to world power elements. What is of interest here is the parents of JFK Jr.'s wife. Virtually nothing is known publicly of her father; she had been raised only by her mother. This issue could be a significant factor, especially in light of the obsession the Masons/NWO/Monarchists/Clintonistas have with bloodlines and such. There has also been some speculation Carolyn was pregnant. Shades of Princess Diana--another murdered victim of this bunch of cutthroats! Furthermore, this tragedy occurred but one day from the 30th anniversary of the Chappaquidick incident involving Ted Kennedy. There have been strong indications for many years that incident was set up to neutralize Ted Kennedy as any kind of force to be reckoned with politically; due to the disgrace and so forth resulting from the Chappaquidick incident. It seems Mary Jo Kopechne's life was sacrificed by these murdering swine to keep Ted in line. This aspect regarding the Chappaquidick incident should not be overlooked in regard to the latest Kennedy tragedy, knowing the proclivity of the New World Order satanists for enacting evens laden with symbolism, hidden meanings, subliminal messages, and bizarre, cultish ritualism. Messages within messages. Add to this package the missing weather radar tapes from late Friday night and early Saturday morning for this region and you have the overwhelming stench a political assassination rising from the waters. © 1999 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. All Rights Reserved
[CTRL] Fw: Questions starting to be answered on Kennedy Death?
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: David Goldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater Date: Sunday, July 18, 1999 4:22 PM Subject: Questions starting to be answered on Kennedy Death? A few bits from Drudge: As late as last week, JFK Jr. was talking with investment bankers about selling GEORGE magazine, according to sources... NEWSWEEK: WIFE WAS 'FRIGHTENED' TO GET IN PLANE WITH KENNEDY MAG: Kennedy might well have run for the U.S. Senate from New York in 2000 if First Lady Hillary Clinton had not begun a campaign... WITNESS: 'BIG WHITE FLASH IN THE SKY' OFF BEACH AROUND TIME OF CRASH... Well, first of all, how would Newsweek KNOW that Caroline Bassette was frightened? Isn't she dead too?!! Now we're talkingissues relating to selling George Magazine, and a possible run for the Senate DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JFK Jr. Disappearance/More Additions (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- More Inconsistencies and Loose Ends re: JFK Jr. Disappearance © 1999 NewsHawk Inc. All Rights Reserved News reports have mentioned that some people saw and heard an explosion in the air over the ocean south of Martha's Vineyard towards eastern Long Island, during the period of time John F. Kennedy's plane apparently "went missing". An earlier report from about 3 PM on Saturday by Shephard Smith of FOX-TV named one of these witnesses--in fact a guest at the scheduled wedding JFK. Jr. was due to attend AND a friend of Smith's producer at Fox. In later reports Smith no longer named this witness and referred to such accounts as "unconfirmed", which is how the rest of the media is referring to them. Don't expect these reports of an explosion over the ocean to ever be confirmed either, by the Clinton/NWO bunch. No doubt JFK Jr. was taken out. It certainly doesn't sound as though Kennedy's plane had any standard mechanical problems--as such usually don't result in the plane igniting into a fireball visible and audible miles away! We've received word that Kennedy had been in fact nosing around several lingering conspiracies; having just published an article in George about the Rabin assassination in Israel and about to put together an article on the attempted assassination of George Wallace in the U.S., and the socio-political forces behind the Wallace hit. There is also an angle here of power struggles between varying families, bloodlines and factions thereof. Of course JFK Jr.'s bloodline is well-known. Indications are the Kennedys are in fact related to the Camerons--a family which has shown up repeatedly in secret society/ brotherhood circles tied to world power elements. What is of interest here is the parents of JFK Jr.'s wife. Virtually nothing is known publicly of her father; she had been raised only by her mother. This issue could be a significant factor, especially in light of the obsession the Masons/NWO/Monarchists/Clintonistas have with bloodlines and such. There has also been some speculation Carolyn was pregnant. Shades of Princess Diana--another murdered victim of this bunch of cutthroats! Furthermore, this tragedy occurred but one day from the 30th anniversary of the Chappaquidick incident involving Ted Kennedy. There have been strong indications for many years that incident was set up to neutralize Ted Kennedy as any kind of force to be reckoned with politically; due to the disgrace and so forth resulting from the Chappaquidick incident. It seems Mary Jo Kopechne's life was sacrificed by these murdering swine to keep Ted in line. This aspect regarding the Chappaquidick incident should not be overlooked in regard to the latest Kennedy tragedy, knowing the proclivity of the New World Order satanists for enacting evens laden with symbolism, hidden meanings, subliminal messages, and bizarre, cultish ritualism. Messages within messages. Add to this package the missing weather radar tapes from late Friday night and early Saturday morning for this region and you have the overwhelming stench a political assassination rising from the waters. © 1999 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. All Rights Reserved = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ten commandments Survey [WND Survey]
-Caveat Lector- Ric, How are Protestant and Catholic Ten Commandments different? I have also been curious about folks who do not consider Catholics "Christian." Anybody know what the difference is in regard to these two things. I know about other things but this has always puzzled me. Amelia - Original Message - From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ten commandments Survey [WND Survey] -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Should the Ten Commandments be displayed in public schools? Which version? Jewish, Catholic, Protestant? Which translation? Douay, King James, New Revised Standard, New World, Klingon, all? Which religious group(s) should gov't promote? If the Judeo-Xian doctrines are to be posted, why not also post passages of Q'uran, Gitas/Upanishads, Sutras, Zuni/Hopi/Apache lore, other religious texts - or are those religions to be subordinated, suppressed? How seriously should the Decalogue [whatever version] be taken? "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the water under the earth" [Ex.20:4, RSV] Shall all images, maps, charts, be removed from schools, from all public buildings, from all of US life? Are fingerprints, ID photos, portraits, all sinful? Must all books containing images be burned? Or does the "make no image" proscription only apply to Judeo/Xians, so they are allowed to LOOK at images made by people who AREN'T Judeo/Xians? "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy." [Ex.20:8, RSV] When does the sabbath day start and end? Who decides? Should all public and private institutions shut down on the sabbath - power/water/communications sites, hospitals/airports/police, theatre/sports, farms/factories/shops, everything? Are Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans, Scientologists, Atheists, Taoists, Muslims, bound by this Judeo/Xian rule - is it to be imposed on all in the US? Then why not impose ALL Judeo/Xian rules on everybody in the US - the next step is forced conversions, eh? "You shall not covet your neighbor's house.. wife... manservant... maidservant... ox... ass, or anything that is your neighbor's. [Ex.20:17, RSV] Is thought a crime? Is 'coveting' a sin equal to 'taking'? Is 'intent' the same as 'commission'? If so, then isn't 'intending' to do something the same as having actually DONE it? Then, isn't just THINKING about engaging in rebellion the same as having ACTIVELY engaged in rebellion - treason by thought? Then can't the theocracy execute you for your thoughts? I repeat - a conspiracy exists, a conspiracy to centralize power and control in the hands of theocrats, of American Ayatollahs; a wily conspiracy that employs many tools, many strategies, one of which is to propound the notion that a set of rules selected by the American Ayatollahs should be binding on everyone within the grasp of their power, that their religious doctrines should be imposed on EVERYONE, regardless of individual beliefs. Classic tools of disinformation, agit-prop, mind-control are employed. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Ten commandments Survey [WND Survey]
-Caveat Lector- Regardless of whether you're looking in Catholic or Protestant Bible translations, they can be found in the Book of Exodus, chapter 20, verses 1-17. Tenorlove _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The NEW CyberWORLD ORDER
-Caveat Lector- The NEW CyberWORLD ORDER by Madison Payne Those familiar with the cause and effect view of history know that things are not always what they seem. Behind every political debate, there is often the undercurrent of the real fight. Just recently, for example, Tom Selleck was attacked on the Rosie O'Donnell show because he had appeared in a National Rifle Association billboard advertisement. At one point during his interrogation, he said, "You don't really believe that the Constitution included the 'right to bear arms' for hunting purposes, do you?" Sadly, most of America had no idea what he was talking about. Today, I am writing for those who know exactly what he was talking about. For while we fight to preserve the U.S. Constitution, and while we fight the enemies opposed to this purpose, a much more insidious process is underway. Over the last decade or so, a new, worldwide frontier has emerged. It started out as an obscure, defense-department-funded communication network -- now it has evolved into a global village known as the Internet. For those who do not know, the "Internet" is exactly that. It is a network of private computers and private networks of computers that are simply inter-networked together. Recently, the Internet has exploded, with over 92 million people sharing this wonderful resource. But as this growth continues, the Internet has started to impinge upon the real world. In fact, some estimates attribute over 30% of the growth in GDP directly to the Internet. As this growth has escalated, and as business has started to flourish on the Net, conflicts have started to occur. Conflicts over content, conflicts over use, conflicts over privacy, and conflicts over intellectual property. So how do we resolve these conflicts? Who is in charge of the Internet? When the Net started, it was obviously a U.S. creation. But as the Net assumed a global user base, the foreign users of the Net had no obligation to adhere to U.S. decisions. Likewise, U.S. users had no obligation to adhere to foreign decisions. Total freedom, and to some degree anarchy, was the result. In an attempt to fill this power vacuum, a small group of people started a process to assume authority over the chaos. The first attempt was known as the gTLD-MoU. It was drafted by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), the Internet Society (ISOC), the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), and the International Telecommunications Union (ITU). Unfortunately, the plan they developed could have been written by Marx himself. It featured a small policy board, with unlimited powers, with no sunshine provisions, established under Swiss law, to administer the entire global name space. [There are three main areas under which control over the Internet can be achieved -- Domain Names, IP Addresses, and Protocol Parameters. The gTLD-MoU focused on Domain Names. The White Paper focuses on all three.] Fortunately, there was enough opposition to the gTLD-MoU that the U.S. Government was forced to intervene. First, a multi-departmental group of the U.S. Government known as the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) started to hold meetings. Then Congress, through the House Science and Commerce Committees, held hearings. Finally, the Executive Branch asked Ira Magaziner, President Clinton's "Technology Czar," to jump into the fight. The result of all of these actions was ultimately known as the "White Paper", Ira Magaziner's consensus document. And while it addressed the most objectionable features of the gTLD-MoU, it was also written in a vague and ambiguous style. This became obvious as the U.S. Commerce Department, under the direction of Becky Burr, proceeded to implement the White Paper through a most dubious process. Instead of interpreting the White Paper as an extension to the U.S. Constitution, she allowed a very small group of people to position themselves as the new global government for the Internet. They are known as ICANN. ICANN, from its inception, has been fraught with controversy and claims of capture. First, the initial incorporators of ICANN used by-laws that were hotly contested as lacking in process, sunshine, and accountability clauses. Second, the initial Board members were presented as a fait accompli, without any justification for their selection or their appointment. Who exactly comprises this board: Esther Dyson, Interim Chairman Chairman of EDventure Holdings Geraldine Capdeboscq Executive Vice President for Strategy, Technology and Partnerships, BULL (France). George Conrades Venture Partner with Polaris Venture Partners Greg Crew Chairman of the Australian Communications Industry Forum Ltd. Frank Fitzsimmons Senior Vice President, Global Marketing for Dun Bradstreet Hans Kraaijenbrink Executive Board of the European Telecommunications Network Operators association Jun Murai Professor, Faculty
Re: [CTRL] book: Corruption 'rife in Vatican'
-Caveat Lector- Malachai Martin has been saying this stuff for years!!! I'd recommend his lastest book, "Windswept House." He pretty much says that it is fiction only insofar as he changed the names of many of the characters portrayed as officials and, of course, the protagonist and his affiliates are fiction. -Original Message- From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 18, 1999 6:03 PM Subject: [CTRL] book: Corruption 'rife in Vatican' -Caveat Lector- http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001801733226889rtmo= VZwGlxwxatmo=pg=/et/99/6/28/wvat28.html Retired prelate is accused over Vatican exposé By Bruce Johnston in Rome A BOOK which claims to expose corruption, blind ambition, cronyism and sexual shenanigans in the Vatican has enraged Church authorities, who accuse an elderly prelate of its authorship. The Roman Rota or ecclesiastical tribunal, acting on a report by someone claiming to be an injured party, alleges that Mgr Luigi Marinelli wrote Via Col Vento in Vaticano (Gone with the Wind in the Vatican), and has ordered him to appear for questioning with a lawyer. The prelate, who retired last year from the Congregation for Eastern Churches, has also been told to withdraw the book from circulation, and to halt any translations. The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, formerly the Inquisition, is also said to have opened a case against Mgr Marinelli over the alleged violation of Vatican secrets. The name of the author appearing on copies of the book published by Kaos Edizioni of Milan is "I Millenari", meaning the Millenarians. But the Rota says that Millenari is also an anagram of "Marinelli". Mgr Marinelli, while not denying involvement, has replied that the book was clearly co-authored, and claims that he is a scapegoat. The book, which names many of those it accuses, also again questions whether the death of Pope John Paul I was natural, and discloses the back-stabbing that went on in the fight for one of the Vatican's highest posts. It talks of cartels of power in the Vatican and of one monsignor regularly locking himself in his Vatican office at night with handsome young men "to do urgent work", and of a prelate being caught at the Swiss border with suitcases stuffed with dollars. One "elderly priest" showered so many presents on influential people in Rome that he became known as "Father Christmas" until one of his beneficiaries had him made a bishop, at the age of 72. He then "squandered millions", and various items of diocesan property mortgaged by him, including the bishop's palace and cathedral, were sold. "When he died, it was discovered that he had passed them to his natural son, who had never stopped blackmailing him," the book says. © Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 1999. - http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001801733226889rtmo= Lib3Ghidatmo=pg=/et/99/7/15/wvat15.html Corruption 'rife in Vatican' By Bruce Johnston in Rome AN Italian prelate who co-authored a book about alleged widespread sex, power and cronyism inside the Vatican said yesterday that Satan had "entered the Church". Luigi Marinelli said he would not be attending a hearing tomorrow to answer for the book, Gone With the Wind in the Vatican, as ordered by the Sacred Roman Rota, the Holy See's highest appeals court. He told Italian state television news: "I won't be attending because I don't want to blow the matter up any further." In another interview, he said the move against him was absurd and "mistaken in method and merit". It ignored his rights under Canon Law to discuss the matter first with his superiors. The book accuses the Vatican of careerism, Freemasonry, sex and corruption. It has sold 100,000 copies since its publication in Italy in February. The Vatican's reaction has merely fuelled demand. The Vatican has taken steps to stop the pro-homosexual campaigning of a priest and a nun in America. Robert Nungent and Jeannine Gramaick have been told that they are to be punished by the Sacred Congregation of the Faith for their "ambiguous opinions". © Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 1999. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free John 8:32
-Caveat Lector- [[ This is theology again gone Arminian and experience-centered. This is the establishment of truth on an emotional level. This is the same pathetic position that made Arminian Methodism one of the easy preys for Modernism at the turn of the century. This was also to say, as long as it works and is big and "successful", it must be of God. Here is pragmatism in full-flower operating in religion [Richard C. Weeks. Billy Grahams Chicago Ecumenical Endeavor, p. 2]. ]] - Human Freedom By J. Kenneth Grider When James Arminius, John Wesley, and H. Orton Wiley emphasized their non-Pelagian http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n2/people_n2/persons3_n2/pelagius.html view of human freedom, they understood that they were teaching what was customarily taught by the Greek and Latin fathers. Human Freedom Before Arminius. Much evidence justifies this understanding that the pre-Augustinians were freedomists. There were exceptions to this "Arminianism" in the earliest centuries. The greatest theologian before Augustine, [ the first saint to find a home page on the Internet http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/augustine/intro.html ] Origen, must be thought of as an exception of a sort. Origen seemed to emphasize human freedom, but he did not believe in it as Arminius and Wesley later taught it. He believed that we are so free that we can choose our road back to God and the length of time it will take to get back to God, but that we are not free to choose never to be redeemed. Yet most pre-Augustinian fathers were freedomists of some sort. They did not give apologies for such a view, since it was not a controverted issue. Tertullian, Cyprian, Chrysostom, and others pretty much assume human freedom. Arnobius, the only annihilationist of the pre-Augustinian period, certainly suggests it. The annihilation of the wicked, after they are resurrected and punished for their sins, will be justly deserved because of their free decision to rebel against God. Human freedom was not an issue to Irenaeus and Athanasius; they seem to assume it. Pelagius, Coelestius, and others denied original sin resulting from Adam's fall, and the need of prevenient grace, so the human freedom they asserted was of a humanistic type. The Second Council of Orange (A.D. 529) made an official decision for the Catholic church of the ensuing centuries. It taught that we lost our freedom through the Fall, but that it is restored to us when we are baptized. Closer to the time of Arminius, the erudite Erasmus was a freedomist and wrote supporting free will only to be opposed by Martin Luther in The Bondage of the Will. Erasmus, though, was a humanist and not the kind of freedomist that the later Arminius was. Melanchthon, closely associated with Luther, might have gravitated toward human freedom and conditional predestination in his last years (Caspar Brandt, The Life of James Arminius, London: Ward, 1858, 30ff); but if so, his views would not have closely resembled those of Arminius. Anabaptists, some of whom later became known as Mennonites, taught the universal provision for redemption in Christ's atonement and that we humans cast the deciding vote on whether we will be damned or redeemed. At Zurich, also just before Arminius's time, Bullinger questioned at least for a time the denial of human freedom implied in Calvin's unconditional predestination teaching. Jerome Bolsec and Charles Perrot, of Geneva, both opposed Calvin's view and were freedomists of sorts. After Holland became Protestant, and a few decades before the Synod of Dort (161849), most ministers tended to be freedomists. At the newly founded university at Leiden in Holland, most of the teachers were "Arminian" during the six years Arminius studied there (1575-81). In England, William Barrett was denied his B.D. degree at Cambridge in 1595 because he rejected the freedom-opposed views of Cambridge's distinguished supralapsarian, Williams Perkins. About this same time Peter Baro was deposed from his position at Cambridge for his "Arminian" views (See Carl Bangs, "Arminus and the Reformation," Church History, June 1961, p. 7). John Playfere, Baro's successor, lectured and published on free will without special trouble, because by then it was becoming increasingly acceptable in England. The Thirty-nine Articles of 1563 (and 1571) of the Church of England took no position on the matter of human freedom-allowing, in the future, either Calvinism or Arminianism among its adherents (See Schaff, Creeds of Christendom, 3:486-512). Arminius's View of Human Freedom. http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/lewisaa/articles/arminius.html ] James Arminius taught and even emphasized human freedom in various treatises written during his 15-year pastorate at Amsterdam (1588-1603) and in his writings during his tenure as a professor at the University of Leiden (1603-9). He was a pastor and professor of the Reformed
[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Sunday, July 18, 1999
-Caveat Lector- from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS subject: AANEWS for July 18, 1999 A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S #612 ~~ 7/18/99 http://www.atheists.org ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/ http://www.americanatheist.org - A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS "Leading The Way For Atheist Civil Rights And The Separation Of State and Church" -- In This Issue... * Bewitching .. but is it fact or fiction? * World Church of the Creator -- what do you think? * Resources * About this list... WHICH WITCH IS WHICH? THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT... "On October 21, 1994, Heather Donahue, Joshua Leonard, and Michael Williams hiked into the Black Hills Forest to shoot a documentary film on a local legend called 'The Blair Witch,' and were never seen again. One year later, their footage was found." So reads the introduction to what promises to be one of the most controversial films of the summer season, "The Blair Witch Project." Already the subject an official web site -- and dozens more seem to be appearing every day -- and a torrent of news articles, the film managed to creep into last year's Sundance Film Festival where it reportedly left audiences shaken and "ashen faced." Written and produced by Daniel Myrick and Eduardo Sanchez who spend a paltry $23,000 on the 87-minute film, "The Blair Witch Project" was immediately grabbed by a distributor for $1.2 million. Since then, there seems to be no end in sight to the speculation and questions raised about the film. "Is the scare of the summer real?" asked a headline in Entertainment Weekly online. The reviews in USA TODAY and elsewhere were obtuse, and we are informed that "Blair itself pretends to be not a movie but a true account pieced together from raw footage left behind after the threesome vanished..." Odeon Films.Com suggests that this screen work is one "Brilliantly blurring the lines between fact and fiction," that along with its "sheer cinematic ingenuity, urgency and invention," The Blair Witch Project "is the firsthand account of three student filmmakers who venture into Maryland's remote Black Forest to discover the truth about the mythic Blair Witch." The Project web site, which has received over 11 million visits since going on line, perpetuates this fiction -- or could it really be fact? -- by including film clips, a historical timeline, photos, biographies and other material. None of this serves to answer the skeptic's question, though, "Is any of this real?" Nor did the Sci-Fi Channel provide any definitive answers last Monday night, when it aired "Curse of the Blair Witch," produced in conjunction with the film's distributor and owner, Artisan Entertainment. First, there is the story line, which begins with one Elly Kedward who immigrated to America and settled in the town of Blair -- now the site of the very real community of Burkittsville, Maryland. Both the Project and Curse says that she is the basis of the Blair Witch, having been accused of witchcraft and tied to a tree and left to die during the deep of winter. The following year, children and other accusers mysteriously disappear, thus setting in motion a cycle of mysterious events and calamities that occur every fifty or sixty years. Blair is abandoned, but later reestablished when the railroad comes through the area. What follows is a cadence of mysterious drowning, abducted children, and the psychopathic murders of seven youngsters carried out by Rustin Parr. Police find the bodies disemboweled, and Parr insists that he was compelled to carry out the heinous crimes by "an old woman ghost" haunting the nearby woods. And there is even a rare book, "The Blair Witch Cult," detailing the exquisite horrors around Burkittsville, including Coffin Rock, where in the 1880s the naked and eviscerated bodies of a search team looking for missing children were discovered. On October 21, 1994, the Blair Witch mystery cycle again hits a periodic peak as the three students, intent on shooting their own documentary about the legend, hike into the woods never to be seen again. The following year, the footage is discovered in a strange entombment; the containers of film seem have materialized inside of the undisturbed soil of a mound surrounded by carefully arranged rocks. The film reveals the gradual deterioration of the students as they realize that they are hopelessly lost, and are taunted by mysterious sounds during the night -- their trek still documented on a High-8 handheld camera. "We aren't trying to pull a hoax here," declared Daniel Myrick, who admits that while the movie and website "look and feel real," he has also "revealed the process of how we made the movie." That is not readily apparent, though, even from the reviews which seem to avoid stating whether The Blair Witch Project is entirely a fabrication, or based on a
[CTRL] US Troops on the Golan?
-Caveat Lector- http://jewishworldreview.com/0799/golan.html U.S. troops on the Golan? A debate resumes Opponents of plan split over whether to renew their campaign By Michael Shapiro Washington Jewish Week http://www.jewishworldreview.com -- DURING THE LAST ROUND of intensive negotiations between Israel and Syria, a heated debate erupted in Washington over whether U.S. troops should be stationed on the Golan Heights to monitor a peace deal between the two longtime foes. Hard-line American and Israeli critics of the peace process, who opposed the use of American troops to monitor a deal, pressed the issue. Back in 1994, they took out newspaper ads showing the body of a U.S. soldier who was killed while serving in Somalia and lobbied unsuccessfully to have Congress impose restrictions on the use of American soldiers before any agreement including what role the United States and its soldiers would play could be reached. At the time, top U.S. officials said they were prepared to send troops as part of a monitoring force if both Israel and Syria requested such a move. Strong supporters of the peace process saw these lobbying efforts as trying to scuttle the negotiations. While a number of observers and participants in that debate said discussing the issue of U.S. troops in the context of an Israeli-Syrian deal on the Golan Heights is premature, there are signs the issue is once again emerging as both Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak who is holding a bevy of meetings here this week and Syrian President Hafez al-Assad have said they are eager to restart negotiations. Frank Gaffney, the head of the Center for Security Policy, a conservative think tank in Washington that has a number of Jewish financial backers, is one of those involved in the earlier debate who is calling for the issue to be discussed now. Gaffney, deputy assistant secretary of defense during the Reagan administration, has been a vocal opponent of stationing U.S. troops on the Golan Heights, arguing that American soldiers would be targets of terrorism and that the likelihood of the United States being drawn into a Middle East war would increase. These facts demand that the question of deploying U.S. forces on the Golan Heights be subjected to rigorous debate now, before such a deployment becomes an integral part of any Israel-Syria deal, the center said in a July 6 press release. Otherwise, Congress is likely to be presented with another Clinton fait accompli, whereby any action to prevent an ill advised-commitment of American troops is portrayed as a mortal threat to the peace process and, therefore, politically untenable. Another key participant in the 1994 campaign also is making some noise. In recent missives to fax machines in Washington, Yoram Ettinger, who was head of congressional liaison at the Israeli Embassy during the Likud-led government of Yitzhak Shamir and later lobbied members of Congress opposing U.S. troops on the Golan Heights, argues that Syria cannot be trusted and is reminding people here that Syrian-sponsored terrorists blew up the U.S. Marine headquarters in Beirut in 1983, killing more than 250 Americans. Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights would not moderate the Mideast nor would it advance U.S. national security interests, Ettinger wrote, stressing that the disappearance of an Israeli military presence close to Damascus will allow Syria to flex its military muscle and expand its support of terrorism. In addition to his faxes, Ettinger has met with staffers on Capitol Hill to discuss the Syrian threat, according to Hill sources. Reached in Israel on his cell phone, Ettinger acknowledged he was in Washington a month ago but said he was here working on other issues. While he would not say if he would be involved in a lobbying campaign similar to last time, Ettinger said: If I will be asked my opinion, I will gladly share it. Some members of the organized Jewish community who are active on the Hill and hold similar views to that of Gaffney and Ettinger predict another round of debate over whether U.S. troops should be stationed on the Golan Heights. If the same issues are brought to the table, the same debate will ensue, said Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America. However, others who actively opposed stationing troops on the Golan while the Labor-led government of Yitzhak Rabin negotiated with the Syrians are not as eager to raise the issue at this time. As Tom Neumann, executive director of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, pointed out, his reticence to raise the issue now is a twist on the debate from last time around when more dovish forces, including Israeli Ambassador Itamar Rabinovich, argued that raising the specter of U.S. troops on the Golan before such an agreement was reached was premature. But now, Neumann does not want to raise the issue because he does not see an agreement between Israel and Syria happening
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Profiling FBI's Unabom Charade
-Caveat Lector- For more on the FBI and the Unabom case read my following post(s) "A Cautionary Tale." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Cautionary Tale (pt.1)
-Caveat Lector- What follows this brief introduction is a word for word transcript of an actual conversation between a couple of real life working class people. Like most real life conversations by working class people it is punctuated with periodic profanities. If this bothers you, stop reading now. Better still, get over it, read on and learn a little something about how the government treats the people who do its dirty work. Not surprisingly, it's a cautionary tale. Two guys got drunk with a tape recorder one day. One guy was a war hero with a secret that came back to haunt him years later when he thought he'd stumbled on the Unabomber and, like a good citizen is supposed to do, he called the FBI. The other guy was me. Think of me as a sort of unlicensed private detective. I was part of a team working on a case. It wasn't him. He was a sidetrack. What we were really trying to do was find the Unabomber before the Feds did. Our motives varied. The interview would have sparked a tasty bidding war. I personally wanted to kick his butt, up down and sideways and then turn him in to the cops. As much as I agree with his cogent critique of leftism and with some aspects of his critique of industrial society, I can't abide anybody murdering workers, especially at random, especially science workers. The first time I ever heard of the Unabomber was in the text of a bulletin issued to my partner at the time, a science worker, and her work mates. It warned against opening any packages that came in the mail until they had been cleared by security. The way I figure, politics aside, any guy who would blow up Dr. Sue needs his butt kicked bad. I aimed to do it, for moral reasons of course, and not just because any mammal will try to protect its mate. And then of course there was that incipient bidding war. We fanned out and started beating the bushes. We turned up some very interesting folks, but alas, not the Unabomber. He proved to be a wild goose. Any fool can hunt deer. They're not hard to find and they never shoot back. The wild goose, on the other hand, is never a bore. Best of all, you needn't actually bag one to feel the thrill of the hunt. Even spoor, even questionable spoor, is enough to get the blood up. The not uncommon sidetrack often also holds much promise. Not a few times the better stories are found far from the primary trail. What follows is a conversation I had while I was sidetracked. I'm showing it to you word for word because I credit you with having enough intelligence to not need my interpretation and because I like to let my subjects speak for themselves. I've taken the liberty, though, of redacting a couple names in the interest of protecting my sources. One of these days I'm going to edit it down a bit and publish it along with some other interviews with other victims of government's limitless perfidy. I met this guy by way of my late bro Clance, with whom he was inclined on occasion to abuse the world's most popular poison. I've never seen him as drunk as I've heard he get sometimes, but I do believe the accounts. Though he has never been known as a teetotaler, his current excesses are a recent development. Or at least so it's said. I dunno. I wasn't there. I'm passing on hearsay here. He was definitely sober when I first met him, and soberly cautious at first. He doesn't want his real name used. These days, who can blame him? One name's as good as another; let's call him "Fred." He wanted to know who else I knew and what were my motivations for wanting to add his story to my already well stocked collection. I'm almost always willing to explain myself. My motives need no hiding. The meeting had been set up by Clance's ex-in-law, who Fred trusts. Let's call him "Brian." Fred works for Brian part time. Brian and I used to be housemates and workmates. For a while we played in a band together. Fred lives down the hall from my ex. So I came into Fred's life fairly well vouched for. This maybe why he was willing to talk to me frankly about this private matter. It's not that he doesn't want the story to get out. If it would somehow help makes things so this kind of stuff wouldn't happen any more, he's all for it. But in the meantime he's an anonymous source and I intend to protect him. Fred came with a mix of vouchers and disclaimers from the odd dozen or so people we know in common. I had asked around of course whether or not he was on the up and up. My friends seem on the whole to be more inclined to believe Fred when he's talking about the past than when he's talking about the future. This is a common side effect of alcohol. He contradicts himself no more often than anybody else on the sauce. He doesn't drink on the job. Ever. I've been told that you can trust him with your wife, your kids and your money. You probably don't want him driving your car, at least not when he's loaded. His story is consistent from telling to telling. It's apparently not one he tells to most people, and
[CTRL] A Cautionary Tale (pt. 2)
-Caveat Lector- Fred: OK, I work maybe half a day, and I suddenly start realizing that something's still wrong with my arm. I couldn't do the work; I mean . . . and this is a company that refuses to give light duty. You either do the job or you don't. And I go in and I try to do the work and I suddenly start realizing I have no strength in my right arm. And there are certain repetitive motions that I have to do, like wrenching. Like if you handle the wrench on the chuck of a lathe or something like that. And I suddenly start realizing that every now and then I'd made this certain move it'd be like a nerve thing, you know, like when you get that crick in your neck, and you get that little hot thing (imitates the sound of a kid's friction motor driven toy car) right up into your head and you go, (imitates the sound of bare thighs settling into a vinyl covered bucket seat that's been out in the parking lot all afternoon) and you twist your head just right . . . I don't know what it's called but it's a nerve thing. So I told the boss, I said, "Boss, I'm having some problems here. I think I'd best go see the doctor." He goes, "All right. You're excused. Go see the doctor. Gimme a call as soon as you talk to him." So I make a phone call, call the doctor. The doctor says come in right away. nessie: This was in the new place that you were moving them into? Fred: Yeah. We had already moved them; the move was complete.. nessie: How many guys worked there? Fred: Now? nessie: Then. Fred: Four. There were four people who were actually machinists. There were a total of eight people working, two engineers . . . nessie: . . . and so forth? Fred: Yeah. nessie: Four machinists, two engineers, a boss and a secretary. Fred: His wife. nessie: His wife and the kid? No? His father? Fred: His father would come in and out. He didn't really do work. In fact he was a dangerous guy to work with. He would make all kinds of mistakes. I couple times I've seen him do kinds of stuff that almost got people killed. It was at the point of . . . he needs to retire. Anyway, the doc says, uh, he's doing these little tests and he's pinching me and he's prodding me and he's doing these things and he goes, "Wow, this is what I worried about." And I go, "What!?! What!?! What!?!" 'Cuz, you know, and he says, "Well it looks like you might have some kind of nerve damage." He goes, "I want you to take another month off, and in that time I want you to do some physical therapy." And he finds me a place to do physical therapy and I do everything I'm told. nessie: Did you apply for disability or anything? Fred: Yeah, workman's Comp. nessie: You applied? Fred: I was granted it. Instantaneously. The doctor signed papers, no problem. That wasn't much money to get by on. I mean I went from six hundred dollars a week take home, or more, every week, to two hundred and . . . what was it? Two hundred and sixty a week. I had to suddenly, like, start watching money. I mean, I'm a single guy. I'm one of those guys that like to go to clubs. I like to, you know, go to concerts, things like that. I'm not one of those people that, like, you know . . . I believe in living. The war taught me that. So anyway, uh, while I'm off, the second attack from the Unabomber occurred, the one in Sacramento. nessie: This is after you went back and found you couldn't do it? Fred: During that time . . . this thing . . . anyway . . . I really can't figure out the actual dates. I can't give you the exact dates. nessie: Don't sweat the dates; just give me the order. Fred: This guy attacks again. And this time he mails the FBI this manifesto, and an excerpt of this was printed in the paper. I get really scared by it. It sounds like what this guy was talking to me about. Anyway, a month passes. I'm feeling better. Physical therapy is helping. A few other little sores that popped up disappeared. I'm feeling OK; I go see the doctor, the doctor gives me a release says I can go back to work Monday. I show up on Monday. The boss . . . everyone . . . starts acting weird towards me. I'm going, "What's going on?" He goes, "Man, I don't know. You'll see when the boss gets here." 'Cuz he wasn't there. I go over to my tool box and the tool box has been rifled. I don't know anything about it. But I don't figure out why. nessie: But you noticed, right? Say anything to the other guys? Fred: No. I didn't say anything at that point in time because I wasn't really sure how I left it. I mean I left over there, I was in pain. I was, like, not thinking right. nessie: Right. Fred: The boss comes out and he hands me a check and he says, "You've been off too much. Basically, we're gonna have to let you go.' I says, "I don't think you can do that.' And he goes, "I'm not only doing it, it's done. Here's your check. I want you to leave the building NOW." He demands it. He grabs me by the arm and I say, "Wait a damn minute!" He goes, "You are leaving NOW or I'm calling the
[CTRL] Will America defend Taiwan?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_doggett/19990716_xcjdo_will_ameri.shtml Will America defend Taiwan? By John Doggett When NATO ended its war against Yugoslavia, Bill Clinton said that NATO reserved the right to go anywhere in Europe or Africa to defend democratic or humanitarian interests. Well, Bill might get his wish much sooner than he thought. Because of comments that Taiwan's President made last weekend, America's military might have to go toe-to-toe with the People's Liberation Army of Communist China. It is election time in Taiwan. During an interview with a German radio station, President Lee Teng-hui said that "We have redefined cross-strait ties as nation to nation, or at least as special nation to nation." This is not the first time that Lee has pushed the envelope. During the 1996 elections, the Communists threatened to nuke Los Angeles if the U.S. intervened in Taiwan. In fact, China mobilized troops and fired nuclear capable missiles across Taiwan in an attempt to influence democratic elections for president in Taiwan. The United States, in response, sent two aircraft carrier battle groups to the Straits of Taiwan in the strongest show of American naval power in that region since the Vietnam War. Now, four years later, after China has shown its disregard for human rights, religious freedom in Mainland China and democracy in Hong Kong, the Taiwanese threat is much more serious. President Lee's comments could not have come at a worst time for the Clinton administration. The Chinese Communists likely see President Lee's act as another example of America's expanding political and military power. Administration representatives are scheduled to meet with the Communists to talk about reparations for NATO's "mistaken" bombing of their Belgrade embassy. They also have to get the Communists to agree to compensate us for damage that Chinese citizens did to America's Beijing embassy. Beijing's official position has been that they cannot allow Taiwan to achieve full independence. The Communists have repeatedly said that they would use force, if necessary, to prevent Taiwan from becoming fully independent. That is where it gets interesting for Clinton and America. Because according to the Taiwan Relations Act, the United States is, by law, committed to defend the island against attack by China or any other aggressor. The Clinton Administration is trying to downplay the seriousness of this issue. However, ever since NATO attacked Yugoslavia over Kosovo, expectations have risen about America's willingness to use its military might to enforce a new "Manifest Destiny" around the world. Clinton's words about the long reach of NATO's power may have been bravado, but they are already coming back to haunt the rest of America. China is on a decade long march to turn its military into a high-tech first world power. They have invested billions in new technology -- legally and illegally obtained -- and have set the end of the next decade for full military parity with the United States. The People's Liberation Army will lose much of its clout and political muscle if it is unable to prevent Taiwan from pulling away due to America's military might. As you read this column, the BBC reports that "Taiwanese defense forces have heightened combat alertness on the frontline Kinmen island in case of possible invasion by China." NATO's decision to attack Yugoslavia over Kosovo has opened up a Pandora's box that we will ask our military people to close. In Yugoslavia, NATO's attacks represented a broad stretch of its treaty to protect Western European democracies. In Taiwan, no stretch is necessary. We are bound, by treaty, to protect Taiwan. Full stop. Given the Clinton administration's close ties to the Communist Chinese, will they be as willing to defend Taiwan as they were willing to attack Serbia? Once again, America's credibility depends upon whether we can trust Bill Clinton to say what he means and mean what he says. What Clinton does about Taiwan will determine the future value of all of America's treaties. John Doggett is a management consultant, lawyer, and business school professor who lives in Austin, Texas. Talkers Magazine has selected John as one of the 100 Most Influential Radio Talk Show Hosts in America. Headway Magazine has selected John as one of the 20 Most Influential Black Conservatives in America. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said,
[CTRL] House Passes Religious Rights Bill
-Caveat Lector- House Passes Religious Rights Bill Legislation Curbing Government's Right to Interfere Prevails 306-118 By Michael Grunwald and Hanna Rosin Washington Post Staff Writers Friday, July 16, 1999; Page A01 The House yesterday overwhelmingly passed a bill designed to protect religious practices from government interference, affirming the right to exercise faith even in cases where it might conflict with state or local laws. Spurred by gripping tales of prisoners barred from receiving communion, students disciplined for wearing yarmulkes in school and houses of worship frozen out of residential neighborhoods by zoning laws, the Republican-controlled House passed the Religious Liberty Protection Act by a 306 to 118 margin. The bill is a slightly narrower version of a law the Supreme Court deemed unconstitutional in 1997. Several civil rights groups opposed the bill, warning it could be used to undermine other anti-discrimination laws, but the Senate is likely to pass some version of the legislation as well, and the Clinton administration signaled its "strong support" in a statement. Supporters of the bill -- including a broad coalition of religious groups ranging from the National Sikh Center to the Peyote Way Church of God to the Campus Crusade for Christ -- called it a much-needed correction to government infringements on religious freedom. The vote was a particularly sweet victory for Christian conservatives, a landmark in their 10-year struggle to convince Americans that they are an embattled minority in need of additional legal protection. But Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), a coauthor of the bill, withdrew his support after failing to pass an amendment ensuring that existing civil rights laws would not be affected. Nadler expressed concern that the bill could empower landlords, for example, to use their religious beliefs to refuse to rent to homosexuals, single mothers or unmarried couples. The bill's supporters said that was not the intention, but opposed Nadler's amendment anyway, saying it would have created an impression that religious rights are second-class rights. "This bill is supposed to be a shield to protect rights, but some people want to use it as a sword to attack rights," Nadler said. "Religious liberty is very dear to my heart, but I can't support this bill anymore." In the end, though, the bill was propelled by a fierce lobbying effort led by conservative Christian groups such as the Family Research Council and the Christian Coalition, with help from a wide array of apolitical religious organizations and even some liberal groups such as People for the American Way and Americans for Democratic Action. The bill would make it much harder for state and local officials to take actions that inconvenience people of faith, requiring them to demonstrate that the actions serve a "compelling" public interest and that they have no less restrictive means to achieve it. To its supporters, this legislation is a fix desperately needed to uphold the original vision of the nation's founders, many of whom came to America to escape religious intolerance. "This is a great day for religious liberty in America," said Rep. Charles T. Canady (R-Fla.), the bill's chief sponsor. "In recent years, we've seen less and less protection for the free exercise of religion. In this country, beliefs have been trampled on every day." The bill's supporters dramatized their arguments with a long list of horror stories describing government intrusions on religious expression: Muslim firefighters forced to shave beards, Hmong corpses submitted for autopsies even though their relatives believed it would condemn their spirits, Roman Catholic priests prohibited from serving communion wine to minors. Most of all, they complained about zoning disputes, which they claim are often used to keep religious institutions out of residential neighborhoods. In Cheltanham Township, Pa., officials rejected a synagogue's construction plans because of insufficient space for parking, even though Orthodox Jews do not drive on the Sabbath. The synagogue then offered to build a parking lot anyway, but officials turned them down again, saying it would create traffic jams. Such conflicts date to 1990, when the Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution's "free exercise" clause does not preclude laws that burden religious practices -- as long as they serve a "rational" public interest, and are not designed specifically to squelch religion. The "compelling" interest requirement in the current bill would set a much higher legal standard. President Clinton signed a similar bill into law in 1993, but the Supreme Court ultimately ruled that Congress had exceeded its constitutional authority in passing it. The authors of the current bill limited its scope to interstate commerce, federally funded programs and blatantly discriminatory land use regulations in an effort to pass constitutional muster. But the debate on the House floor
[CTRL] Japan's executive suicides rise by a third
-Caveat Lector- Japan's executive suicides rise by a third FROM ROBERT WHYMANT IN TOKYO JAPAN'S suicide rate is soaring in a grim reflection of the country's economic woes. Last year suicides totalled 32,863, an increase of 35 per cent on 1997, according to police figures. It was the first time they had topped 30,000. Particularly striking was the sharp increase in the number of suicides by men in their forties and fifties, the age groups hardest hit by the current wave of "restructuring". The figures show that 713 corporate managers killed themselves, a 38 per cent increase on the previous year. Suicides linked to economic problems surged by 70 per cent to 6,058. The Japanese, convinced the country is going to the dogs, are flocking to the "failures and crisis" sections of bookshops to snap up gloom and doom books that indulge their darkest fears. Works such as Japan's Failures, Japan's Crisis and The Essence of Our Country's Failure attempt to explain why Japan is in the throes of the severest economic recession since the Second World War. The recent spectacle of Nissan, once a symbol of Japan's unbeatable industrial might, going cap in hand to Renault for financial help was the last straw for the depressed national psyche. Many Japanese people saw it as a humiliation that confirmed the nation is falling into ruin. Others see the soul-searching as a positive sign that the Japanese are eager to identify past mistakes and to learn from them. "People are humble enough to admit they've failed and now they want to know how they can improve themselves," said the political commentator Hideaki Kase. "And don't forget, self-flagellation is a very Japanese pastime." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
