Re: Vote for Cocoon on the O'Reilly Open source Directory.

2003-08-28 Thread Steven Noels
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Geoff Howard wrote: Robert Simmons wrote: Go vote http://www.osdir.com/Downloads-req-ratedownload-lid-11-ttitle-Cocoon.html Hmmm - the description is taken from the 2.0 site, and no wonder -- the link is to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon --

RE: transformer developer

2003-08-28 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, arnaud daneels wrote: hello, thanks for your advice, i don't understand how the input and output pipe is generated at once and are not affected by each other... can you tell me more please I don't understand your question. Which input/output pipeline? Thanks

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/pipeline/impl CachingPointProcessingPipeline.java

2003-08-28 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/08/27 23:09:29 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/pipeline/impl CachingPointProcessingPipeline.java Log: Code formatting Revision ChangesPath 1.4 +25 -25

Releasing 2.1.1?

2003-08-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi, as several of you have already pointed out, a 2.1.1 release seems to make sense. I can make a release next week, but I really would like to have the scheduling (CommandManager) problem fixed in the release. Is anyone working already on it? Thanks Carsten

RE: lastModificationDate misuse? - old thread - progress

2003-08-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
John Williams wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote Bug was fixed some days ago: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14348. Carsten requested for testers of the patch, so if you can test the behaviour with the current Cocoon 2.0 CVS it will be good. If XSP is the result of a

Scheduler + Avalon Q's A's

2003-08-28 Thread Tony Collen
Good morning Europe, I've been digging into the Scheduler stuff in Cocoon, and I've been very pleased.. it's a component I've been waiting for for a while now, and it fits in very nicely with my main project I have going on. I have very little experience creating Avalon components, so I

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hello. Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone home? Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 13/8/03 16:37, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, let's do simple steps perhaps: Do you think that we should start a new

RE: Cocoon 2.1 Authentication Bug? *Please* Help

2003-08-28 Thread Sylvain.Thevoz
Hello Carsten, The authentication works very well and I can enter inside the portal. But inside the portal there are two functions: User Management and Portal Management. These functions use the portal-auth action and the portal-conf and auth-conf generators. The problem is that I can't access

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/webdav/samples/dasl - New directory

2003-08-28 Thread gianugo
gianugo 2003/08/28 01:09:17 cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/webdav/samples/dasl - New directory

Re: Releasing 2.1.1?

2003-08-28 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hi, as several of you have already pointed out, a 2.1.1 release seems to make sense. I can make a release next week, but I really would like to have the scheduling (CommandManager) problem fixed in the release. Is anyone working already on it?

Re: Scheduler + Avalon Q's A's

2003-08-28 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Tony Collen wrote: Is it this simple? Or should the DefaultScheduler or the ThreadManager be in charge of determining whether a Target should be triggered? To my knowledge, yes, it is the simplest solution :-) -- Giacomo Pati Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com

Re: lastModificationDate misuse? - old thread - progress

2003-08-28 Thread John Williams
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Inspecting the contents of the currValidity and prevValidity Maps I find that they are equivalent excepting that the prevValidity contains an entry S-xml-1_=NOP Validity so the test fails and code is re-generated. Huh! That's strange, now as far as I remember the

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Upayavira
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Jeudi, 28 aoû 2003, à 09:18 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...Great! Combined with the recent RTs, does still someone feel that starting 2.2 is the right thing? Or are there still objections?... I'm +1 on starting 2.2 given what's going on (or planned)

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/webdav/samples/dasl sitemap.xmaptest-dasl.xml

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Jeudi, 28 aoû 2003, à 10:11 Europe/Zurich, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : A first cut at a DASL query component. Needs tweaking, but it's basically working. Just curious, which DASL-enabled server are you using? (I tested the DASL support in Slide a while ago but

RE: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
The Avalon Logging can be changed to use Log4J. Currently the usage of the LogKit is hard-coded in Cocoon. I added the possibility to configure which logging framework you want to use to the avalon core, but never had time to test it. If this is working, only minor changes have to be made to

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/webdav/samples/dasl sitemap.xmap test-dasl.xml

2003-08-28 Thread Guido Casper
Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Jeudi, 28 aoû 2003, à 10:11 Europe/Zurich, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : A first cut at a DASL query component. Needs tweaking, but it's basically working. Just curious, which DASL-enabled server are you using? (I tested the DASL support in

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Robert Simmons wrote: One of the major implementaiton complaints I have about Cocoon is its lack of Log4J logging functionality. Log4j, is without a doubt the best logging package for java. No other package can even hope to compare to it. If Cocoon was built to use Log4j instead of the avalon

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/webdav/samples/dasl sitemap.xmap test-dasl.xml

2003-08-28 Thread Guido Casper
Gianugo Rabellino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Jeudi, 28 aoû 2003, à 10:11 Europe/Zurich, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : A first cut at a DASL query component. Needs tweaking, but it's basically working. Just curious, which DASL-enabled server are you using? (I

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/webdav/samples/dasl sitemap.xmaptest-dasl.xml

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Guido Casper wrote: A first cut at a DASL query component. Needs tweaking, but it's basically working. Wow, this is really cool! I immediately tried it (against Tamino WebDAV). Works great! :-) Thanks (I'll extend your congrats to Daniele, the guy from Pro-netics who did the actual DASL query

Re: EU Software Patents protest action

2003-08-28 Thread James Mitchell
+1 I added a link from our user group web site. http://www.struts-atlanta.org/ We are a small group (currently 201 members on the mailing list), but I am happy to do my part. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist http://www.struts-atlanta.org 770-822-3359 AIM:jmitchtx

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. You'll have to provide a very good technical reason for that, much more than I like Log4J better or Log4J is cool. Consider that: 1. Avalon logkit can use Log4J as the backend enging while, to

RE: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Morrison, John
I for one would be -1 on this. Cocoon relies heavily on Avalon, it makes IMNSHO little sense when Avalon supports multiple logging mechanisms to rip it out and recode. J. Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. -- Robert

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/webdav/samples/dasl sitemap.xmap test-dasl.xml

2003-08-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 28 aoû 2003, à 11:34 Europe/Zurich, Gianugo Rabellino a écrit : ...I'm using Catacomb ATM. It's pretty fast and reliable, with the only limitation of being MySQL only (but we might have a surprise out of the door pretty soon :-)). Thanks for the info! match patternSEARCH generate

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Gianugo Rabellino [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. You'll have to provide a very good technical reason for that, much more than I like Log4J better or

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. You'll have to provide a very good technical reason for that, much more than I like Log4J better or Log4J is cool. Consider that: How about the fact that multiple layers of logging exacerbate

RE: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Robert Simmons Gianugo Rabellino [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. You'll have to provide a very good technical reason for that, much

jxforms scratchpad big

2003-08-28 Thread Nicolas Maisonneuve
hy , i download the CVS version i would just know if it's normal that the jxforms scratchpad is so big ( threre is inside the ant doc , ant src , avalon merlin doc , cocoon 2 historical lib, etc...)

Re: Cocoon CLI: excluding URIs

2003-08-28 Thread Upayavira
Upayavira wrote: ... 4) I just started thinking about your excludes code (assuming that link gathering does start working again). Basically, there's a number of things one can exclude upon - source URI, source prefix, full source URI (prefix and URI), final destination URI . How about

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Simmons
It is .. Ive been wrong before and I admit Im no Avalon or cocoon source code expert. Im very direct in my style and I wish people wouldnt take it offensively. I merely abhor cheerleading. There are lots of things I love about cocoon but the logging irritates me. *shrug* =^) Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Robert Simmons wrote: I wasnt accusing anyone of being childish. I wish you wouldnt put words in my mouth. I merely meant that the demands of a business environment are quite different then the demands of non-business environments. Please rest assured that many (probably most) of us know what the

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Steven Noels
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: It is .. Ive been wrong before and I admit Im no Avalon or cocoon source code expert. Im very direct in my style and I wish people wouldnt take it offensively. I merely abhor cheerleading. There are lots of things I love about cocoon but the logging

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Simmons
To be honest, the condescending attitude you display here doesnt help me feel warm and fuzzy all over. I can take criticism. Can you? But then I think I will drop this convewrsation as it likely doesnt belong in this list. -- Robert Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Simmons
quoteI wasnt insulting anyone and i appologize if it sounded like that. /quote I noticed you failed to copy that block into your acerbic reply. I appologized once, I wont do it again. -- Robert Gianugo Rabellino [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Simmons

Re: Blocks Manual

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Simmons
And am willing to contribute if I can do so in a manner that doesnt require months of learning before I can accomplish anything. I wonder if that means cocoon is too big that it scares off newbies. =) Happens to the best of them, JBoss, Apache Web Server, etc. Like I said before, I tend to be

Re: [RT] Improving Sitemap and Flowscript

2003-08-28 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: snip/ *IMPORTANT* (and the reason why I started the RT): So in he CLI, instead of asking for the link view and then generate, I simply ask Cocoon to insert a transformer that gathers links in the same positions where the links view would. This would make it possible

Re: Blocks Manual

2003-08-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 28 aoû 2003, à 13:45 Europe/Zurich, Robert Simmons a écrit : ...On-topic: that blocks manual would be cool. Im having a hard time figuring out what blocks I will need for my production build There were lots of discussion a while ago on the docs list regarding component reference

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Robert Simmons wrote: snip/ Many open source projects have yet to bridge this gulf and only a few have done it sucessfully (apache web server, ant, log4j, tomcat, jboss). For example, the decision to NOT distribute a binary build of cocoon is a good example of going in

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Gianugo Rabellino said: Rant apart, you might have a point in blaming Cocoon of not being business friendly, and I'm starting to consider that there might be room for someone to come up and be Cocoon's RedHat, providing production builds and certified WARs, thus relieving the Cocoon

Re: Integratign a W3C XForms implementation into the Cocoon Project?

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
Robert Simmons wrote: Greetings, One thing that I would like to see is Cocoon supporting the XForms 1.0 standard as described on W3C. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/ I would advise against the XForms standard because it is severely broken for client/server type applications. XForms ONLY makes

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. -1000 If I want to use a NullLogger (no logging completely, and no need for a logging toolkit) then I should be able to. If I want to use Log4J I should be able to. And if I am happy with

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Robert, putting aside the attitude discussion for a while and go back to the facts on the table; You would like to use Log4J in the production environment. GOOD! You want to re-write Cocoon to explicitly do the Log4J lookup of the Logger through the Logger static method. NOT SO GOOD, in my

Re: [RT] Improving Sitemap and Flowscript

2003-08-28 Thread Upayavira
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: snip/ *IMPORTANT* (and the reason why I started the RT): So in he CLI, instead of asking for the link view and then generate, I simply ask Cocoon to insert a transformer that gathers links in the same positions where the links view would. This

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Gianugo Rabellino wrote, On 28/08/2003 13.19: ... Rant apart, you might have a point in blaming Cocoon of not being business friendly, and I'm starting to consider that there might be room for someone to come up and be Cocoon's RedHat, providing production builds and certified WARs, thus

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Berin Loritsch wrote, On 28/08/2003 15.08: Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. -1000 If I want to use a NullLogger (no logging completely, and no need for a logging toolkit) then I should be able to. If I want to use Log4J I

Re: [RT] Improving Sitemap and Flowscript

2003-08-28 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Upayavira wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: snip/ *IMPORTANT* (and the reason why I started the RT): So in he CLI, instead of asking for the link view and then generate, I simply ask Cocoon to insert a transformer that gathers links in the same positions where the links

RE: Integratign a W3C XForms implementation into the Cocoon Project?

2003-08-28 Thread Chris Clark
Surprised you didn't see this: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=20274release_id=150523 I haven't looked at in depth so it might not be what you're after, but the Chiba site has a Chicoon project that is labeled as an integration of Cocoon and Chiba. -Original

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Nicola Ken Barozzi said: Berin, I think that Robert has a valid point here, and that is similar to what Avalon said about Logkit and Log4j. When I was still in Avalon, Avalon had informally agreed to push Logkit EOL in favor of log4j, and the log4j community accepted the challenge of

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
Robert Simmons wrote: One of the major implementaiton complaints I have about Cocoon is its lack of Log4J logging functionality. Log4j, is without a doubt the best logging package for java. No other package can even hope to compare to it. If Cocoon was built to use Log4j instead of the avalon

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Lets make a deal and avoid both stubborness and aggressive attitude then. I would suggest you to discuss the Log4J vs. Logkit implementation issues on the proper lists and come back here with more evidence. You might even convince the Avalon guys to switch to

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote, On 28/08/2003 15.08: Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. -1000 If I want to use a NullLogger (no logging completely, and no need for a logging toolkit) then I should be able

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
Niclas Hedhman wrote: Well, Robert's assertion is ambigious. Does he say; Drop void enableLogging( Logger logger ); and let every component do, logger = Logger.getLogger( this.getClass().getLogger() ); OR, Let Log4J be the default logger backend, and have the Log4J configuration handily

Re: Integratign a W3C XForms implementation into the Cocoon Project?

2003-08-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Robert Simmons said: Wehn XForms is widely adopted, do we want cocoon to be the only web publishing framework that doesnt support them? I am far from an XForm expert, but saying that Cocoon will not support XForm when the User Agents doesn is a little bit of overstatement isn't it? The POST

Re: Blocks Manual

2003-08-28 Thread Steven Noels
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: Like I said before, I tend to be direct in my language and if I offend, I certainly dont mean to and I appologize. You don't seem to understand what I'm trying to explain, so pardon my shouting: QUIT APOLOGIZING - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Except for

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Berin Loritsch said: Niclas Hedhman wrote: Well, Robert's assertion is ambigious. Does he say; Drop void enableLogging( Logger logger ); and let every component do, logger = Logger.getLogger( this.getClass().getLogger() ); OR, Let Log4J be the default logger backend, and have the

Re: Integratign a W3C XForms implementation into the Cocoon Project?

2003-08-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Since it never arrived... Berin Loritsch said: Robert Simmons wrote: Greetings, One thing that I would like to see is Cocoon supporting the XForms 1.0 standard as described on W3C. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/ I would advise against the XForms standard because it is severely broken

Re: [RT] Improving Sitemap and Flowscript

2003-08-28 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote, On 28/08/2003 14.00: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: snip/ *IMPORTANT* (and the reason why I started the RT): So in he CLI, instead of asking for the link view and then generate, I simply ask Cocoon to insert a transformer that gathers links in the same positions where the

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Per-Olof Noren
Hi, Should Cocoon be configured out-of-the-box for logging to a Log4J backend? I'd put my two cents worth of opinion in favor of this suggestion. Regards, Pelle

[Proposal] Simple production build directions

2003-08-28 Thread Timothy Larson
--Simple proposal for a production build for Cocoon-- Create a new file production.build.properties, and refer to it in a new step 2 in INSTALL.txt: Proposed changes to INSTALL.txt: (Insert a new step 2) 2) For a full build skip to step 3 To make a production build without the

Re: Integratign a W3C XForms implementation into the Cocoon Project?

2003-08-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Berin Loritsch said: Robert Simmons wrote: Greetings, One thing that I would like to see is Cocoon supporting the XForms 1.0 standard as described on W3C. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/ I would advise against the XForms standard because it is severely broken for client/server type

Re: Blocks Manual

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Simmons
If I had the qualifications to, yes. However it would be terribly inefficient for me to spend months studying the source code to the blocks in order to make complete documentation when there are people that already know these blocks and could make the documentation a lot quicker. Cocoon has a

Re: Cocoon in Business Environements and its shortfalls

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
Robert Simmons wrote: *Snip many good points* Issues Im not privy to directly but concerned about: 6) Project Lint. Over time any project accumulates an amount of lint in the form of dead code, unused classes and unused methods. How much of this is in cocoon and how can we get it out? I have

RE: Blocks Manual

2003-08-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Robert Simmons wrote: If I had the qualifications to, yes. However it would be terribly inefficient for me to spend months studying the source code to the blocks in order to make complete documentation when there are people that already know these blocks and could make the documentation

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/generation JXTemplateGenerator.java

2003-08-28 Thread mpo
mpo 2003/08/28 07:29:43 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/generation JXTemplateGenerator.java Log: Making sure the continuation is present in the Jexl context even if the flowContext is missing. Revision ChangesPath 1.7 +3 -1

Re: Integratign a W3C XForms implementation into the Cocoon Project?

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
Niclas Hedhman wrote: Since it never arrived... Berin Loritsch said: Robert Simmons wrote: Greetings, One thing that I would like to see is Cocoon supporting the XForms 1.0 standard as described on W3C. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/ I would advise against the XForms standard because it is

Re: [Proposal] Simple production build directions

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Timothy Larson wrote: --Simple proposal for a production build for Cocoon-- Create a new file production.build.properties, and refer to it in a new step 2 in INSTALL.txt: Proposed changes to INSTALL.txt: (Insert a new step 2) 2) For a full build skip to step 3 To make a production build

Re: Cocoon in Business Environements and its shortfalls

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Robert Simmons wrote: I wanted to open a general discussion thread on the shortfalls of Cocoon in business environments. I have some very clear opinions on the matter, but then my opinions are just that -- opinions. Others may differ with me. ... I will start by stating my issues with cocoon as

RE: Cocoon in Business Environements and its shortfalls

2003-08-28 Thread Chris Clark
2) Monitoring is not intuitive. If you are deploying a business application with 20 cocurrent Cocoon instances, you need a way to cohesively monitor the health of the entire cluster. Separate log files just arent sufficient. Something like JMX instrumentation

Re: [RT] Improving Sitemap and Flowscript

2003-08-28 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote, On 28/08/2003 16.23: ... With a tee-view, pipeline would be: G[data] - T[content] - Tee - T[page] - T[html] - S - Browser \ - T[links] - Hashmap With a virtual transformer as far as I understand resulting pipeline will

Re: [RT] WebDAV proxy / DASL search in Cocoon

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Following up on Gianugo's wild idea [1] that Cocoon could be used to implement the DASL part of a WebDAV server.. Cocoon would proxy the following operations to the WebDAV backend: GET, HEAD, POST, PUT, DELETE, MKCOL Not really. You need to keep your metadata

Re: [Proposal] Simple production build directions

2003-08-28 Thread Roger I Martin PhD
Thanks Cocoon developers for thinking thru and working this out. It is much appreciated. -- Roger - Original Message - From: Timothy Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Proposal] Simple production build directions ---

Re: [Proposal] Simple production build directions

2003-08-28 Thread Timothy Larson
Thanks for the suggestion. I added the proposal to the wiki here: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ProductionInstallProposal --- Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Instead of adding a production target, I'd suggest working on Timothy's instructions on the wiki (including

cvs commit: cocoon-2.0/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/search SimpleLuceneXMLIndexerImpl.java

2003-08-28 Thread asavory
asavory 2003/08/28 09:52:54 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/search SimpleLuceneXMLIndexerImpl.java Log: Fixing markup Revision ChangesPath 1.3 +2 -2

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22795] New: - reuse-parsers is set to false (shouldn't be true?)

2003-08-28 Thread bugzilla
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RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Hello. Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone home? Great :) Antonio Gallardo

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22796] New: - Flow: cocoon.sendPage() enforces text/plain in the response

2003-08-28 Thread bugzilla
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Re: [Proposal] Simple production build directions

2003-08-28 Thread Steven Noels
Roger I Martin PhD wrote: Thanks Cocoon developers for thinking thru and working this out. It is much appreciated. Your patience with us, poor human beings, is even more appreciated. Cheers! /Steven

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Jay Freeman \(saurik\)
So my eye finally caught on the Starting 2.2 thread today, it seemed interesting, and I went to read through this... and I must say the main reaction I ended up having to it is HUH?!?. :) Is the reason you need a new repository because CVS doesn't support move/copy/rename (especially so on

cvs commit: cocoon-2.0/src/documentation/xdocs/installing index.xml

2003-08-28 Thread asavory
asavory 2003/08/28 11:15:47 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs/installing index.xml Log: Fixing typo Revision ChangesPath 1.9 +2 -2 cocoon-2.0/src/documentation/xdocs/installing/index.xml Index: index.xml

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism completely. I would still be -1 on this because of the reasons mentioned in my earlier mail. Giacomo -- Robert Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag

Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion

2003-08-28 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Robert Simmons wrote: I wasnt accusing anyone of being childish. I wish you wouldnt put words in my mouth. I merely meant that the demands of a business environment are quite different then the demands of non-business environments. Please

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/bean CocoonBean.java CocoonWrapper.java

2003-08-28 Thread upayavira
upayavira2003/08/28 12:21:00 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon Main.java src/java/org/apache/cocoon/bean CocoonBean.java CocoonWrapper.java Log: Moved error detection to correct place Added basic support for include/exclude Revision

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Tony Collen
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Maybe start 2.5, just to be in line with Linux? ;-P Screw that, let's just skip a couple major versions, everyone's doing it now, how does Cocoon 5.0 look? :) Better yet, let's just change the name alltogether: Cocoon XP Cocoon MX Cocoon MX 2004 I just love

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2 (was going to be The Project Formerly KnownAs Cocoon)

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Tony Collen wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Maybe start 2.5, just to be in line with Linux? ;-P Screw that, let's just skip a couple major versions, everyone's doing it now, how does Cocoon 5.0 look? :) Better yet, let's just change the name alltogether: Cocoon XP Cocoon MX Cocoon MX 2004 I

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Jay Freeman (saurik) wrote: Has any thought been put into the next time we have to create another new repository should be the day we look into better version control? Amen! Personally I'd +1 the subversion switch in any moment. Ciao, -- Gianugo Rabellino Pro-netics s.r.l. -

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2 (was going to be The Project Formerly KnownAs Cocoon)

2003-08-28 Thread Tony Collen
Geoff Howard wrote: What about renaming the next release to an unpronounceable set of symbols, like Prince, or that Led Zepplin album? I'd suggest !#. How about: Cocoon Interrobang It would be pronounced, Cocoon?! In all seriousness, I'm all for 2.2, but what sorts of loose ends are there

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread J.Pietschmann
Timothy Larson wrote: I also wondered about Subversion when the repositories started multiplying :) Is this a possibility? Is there a good CVS-Subversion repository converter? What's good? The Subversion project has a converter, last time I checked they said it still can't convert branches, and

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
J.Pietschmann wrote: Timothy Larson wrote: I also wondered about Subversion when the repositories started multiplying :) Is this a possibility? Is there a good CVS-Subversion repository converter? What's good? The Subversion project has a converter, last time I checked they said it still

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Berin Loritsch wrote: What's good? The Subversion project has a converter, last time I checked they said it still can't convert branches, and that this was *the* killer for declaring SVN to be production ready. Trunk only CVS repositories seem to work for a long time already (disclaimer: gathered

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2 (was going to be The Project Formerly KnownAs Cocoon)

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Tony Collen wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: What about renaming the next release to an unpronounceable set of symbols, like Prince, or that Led Zepplin album? I'd suggest !#. How about: Cocoon Interrobang It would be pronounced, Cocoon?! Actually, my proposal could be pronounced bang and pound

Pretty Printing Output HTML

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Is there a way with cocoon to make the final output of HTML to the browser be pretty printed with spaces and proper wrapping. I would like this for debugging reasons. -- Robert

Re: Pretty Printing Output HTML

2003-08-28 Thread Tony Collen
Robert Simmons wrote: Is there a way with cocoon to make the final output of HTML to the browser be pretty printed with spaces and proper wrapping. I would like this for debugging reasons. Robert, This is an oldie but goodie; http://cocoon.apache.org/2.0/faq/faq-xslt.html AFAIK the ability to

Re: [Proposal] Simple production build directions

2003-08-28 Thread Tomasz Nowak
Timothy Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I added the proposal to the wiki here: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ProductionInstallProposal I won't edit that file but I would like to add here my suggestion about cocoon-2.1 build system, in general. I try to

AW: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS

2003-08-28 Thread Sascha-Matthias Kulawik
we've developed a XML-based Content Management System based on different technologies like Cocoon, XML, EJB and a WebStart Client Application. It is in our interest, that we contribute this project with about 200.000 Lines of Code to the Apache Foundation. 200.000? Impressive, I

Re: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Sascha-Matthias Kulawik wrote: we've developed a XML-based Content Management System based on different technologies like Cocoon, XML, EJB and a WebStart Client Application. It is in our interest, that we contribute this project with about 200.000 Lines of Code to the Apache Foundation. 200.000?

Re: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS

2003-08-28 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Sorry, this was a server error - it is just fixed now: http://conquest.juwimm.net/cocoon/cms/conquest/conquest It is broken. Andreas

Re: Vote for Cocoon on the O'Reilly Open source Directory.

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Robert Simmons wrote: Go vote http://www.osdir.com/Downloads-req-ratedownload-lid-11-ttitle-Cocoon.html Hmmm - the description is taken from the 2.0 site, and no wonder -- the link is to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon -- http://cocoon.apache.org/2.0/ Who can fix that redirect now that 2.1 is

Re: Vote for Cocoon on the O'Reilly Open source Directory.

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Geoff Howard wrote: Robert Simmons wrote: Go vote http://www.osdir.com/Downloads-req-ratedownload-lid-11-ttitle-Cocoon.html Hmmm - the description is taken from the 2.0 site, and no wonder -- the link is to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon -- http://cocoon.apache.org/2.0/ Who can fix that

Cocoon in Business Environements and its shortfalls

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Simmons
I wanted to open a general discussion thread on the shortfalls of Cocoon in business environments. I have some very clear opinions on the matter, but then my opinions are just that -- opinions. Others may differ with me. First of all, I should say that I have a very direct, a-political, style

Re: [Proposal] Simple production build directions

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Switching back to users, as the feedback we need is really for them. Any developers (besides me) interested please follow over there, and whoever responds to this, please remove dev from the to: field. Timothy Larson wrote: --- Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will be easy to add a new