Re: Where are the articles on writing Cocoon components?

2005-08-16 Thread Steven Noels
On 15 Aug 2005, at 16:56, Berin Loritsch wrote: I'm registered, but I can't add documents in any logical place. Its not forms or portal related. It looks like you found out how to edit the navigation tree as well. Feel free to expand the section you created - if a better place is found in

Re: svn commit: r232855 - in /cocoon: blocks/portal/trunk/WEB-INF/xconf/ blocks/portal/trunk/java/org/apache/cocoon/portal/bridges/ blocks/portal/trunk/samples/ blocks/scratchpad/trunk/java/org/apache

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ralph Goers schrieb: Is there something more detailed about what this enhancement provides? It sounds interesting. Not yet. I just started to integrate the portals bridges project, so you can plugin your (don't be scared now) JSF, Struts, PHP application as a JSR 168 portlet into the

Re: [Cocoon Docs] Website documentation update - portal first

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Upayavira schrieb: One point, for general reference: there are negligible differences between 2.1 and trunk docs. I did a diff across the two versions, and IIRC I merged the changes, so 2.1 and 'site' is all we need at the moment, until we want the docs for 2.1 and trunk to diverge.

Re: svn commit: r231266 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: ./ src/java/org/apache/cocoon/generation/ src/java/org/apache/cocoon/util/jxpath/ src/java/org/apache/cocoon/xml/ src/test/org/apache/cocoon

2005-08-16 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 15/ago/05, alle 20:21, Sylvain Wallez ha scritto: Fixed! Please cross-check! Looks good! Ugo -- Ugo Cei Tech Blog: http://agylen.com/ Open Source Zone: http://oszone.org/ Wine Food Blog: http://www.divinocibo.it/

Re: [Cocoon Docs] Website documentation update - portal first

2005-08-16 Thread Upayavira
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Upayavira schrieb: One point, for general reference: there are negligible differences between 2.1 and trunk docs. I did a diff across the two versions, and IIRC I merged the changes, so 2.1 and 'site' is all we need at the moment, until we want the docs for 2.1 and

Re: [Cocoon Docs] Website documentation update - portal first

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
hepabolu wrote: Once that process is done, I want to figure out how to get the info from Daisy onto the website (preferably through an easier route/procedure than the current one). If that works, I'm planning on updating the website once every one or two months, depending on the number of

AW: svn commit: r232855 - in /cocoon: blocks/portal/trunk/WEB-INF/xconf/ blocks/portal/trunk/java/org/apache/cocoon/portal/bridges/ blocks/portal/trunk/samples/ blocks/scratchpad/trunk/java/org/apache

2005-08-16 Thread Jens Maukisch
Hi, For the demo portal, I replaced the authentication framework with CoWarp which provides imho a much nicer and cleaner way for plugging in your authentication mechanism. I'm currently thinking of using our hsqldb as the user database (for the demo). Again if someone wants to do this

Re: [Cocoon Docs] Website documentation update - portal first

2005-08-16 Thread Steven Noels
On 16 Aug 2005, at 08:48, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: So, I think, yes, it makes sense to have different versions. That's variants in Daisy-speak. See this example: http://cocoondev.org/daisy/13.html and this explanation: http://cocoondev.org/daisydocs-1_3/repository/general/155.html /Steven

Re: [Cocoon Docs] Website documentation update - portal first

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Steven Noels wrote: On 16 Aug 2005, at 08:48, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: So, I think, yes, it makes sense to have different versions. That's variants in Daisy-speak. See this example: http://cocoondev.org/daisy/13.html and this explanation:

CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: For the demo portal, I replaced the authentication framework with CoWarp which provides imho a much nicer and cleaner way for plugging in your authentication mechanism. CoWarp is a 35 kb jar file containing 25 classes which seem highly tied to Cocoon and Avalon. Do

Re: [VOTE] Website update process

2005-08-16 Thread Ross Gardler
hepabolu wrote: Guys, I don't know if a vote for this is required, but I'd like to have consensus/feedback, before I do something drastic. As written earlier today there are gaps in the current version of the website, e.g. FAQs are missing. What I'd like to do is restore the current

Re: [Cocoon Docs] Website documentation update - portal first

2005-08-16 Thread Upayavira
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Upayavira schrieb: One point, for general reference: there are negligible differences between 2.1 and trunk docs. I did a diff across the two versions, and IIRC I merged the changes, so 2.1 and 'site' is all we need at the moment, until we want the docs for 2.1 and

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez schrieb: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: For the demo portal, I replaced the authentication framework with CoWarp which provides imho a much nicer and cleaner way for plugging in your authentication mechanism. CoWarp is a 35 kb jar file containing 25 classes which seem highly

Re: [Cocoon Docs] Website documentation update - portal first

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Upayavira wrote: Can you remember where these differences occur? In what pages? I'd like to look at how it is now - I've a feeling I may have edited the pages to account for this, but would like to see what is actually the case. Hmm, actually now - there were several. I think I searched

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Steven Noels
On 16 Aug 2005, at 11:27, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: And I think currently we have way too many blocks and adding another one makes Cocoon even complexer. It seems everyone who has a good idea just adds another block (with no or minimal community). Just adding a jar dependency is much simpler

Re: [Cocoon Docs] Website documentation update - portal first

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Upayavira wrote: Can you remember where these differences occur? In what pages? I'd like to look at how it is now - I've a feeling I may have edited the pages to account for this, but would like to see what is actually the case. Hmm, actually now - there were

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: And I think currently we have way too many blocks and adding another one makes Cocoon even complexer. It seems everyone who has a good idea just adds another block (with no or minimal community). Just adding a jar dependency is much simpler from the complexity point of

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez schrieb: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: For the demo portal, I replaced the authentication framework with CoWarp which provides imho a much nicer and cleaner way for plugging in your authentication mechanism. CoWarp is a 35 kb jar file containing

Re: [VOTE] Website update process - Ross

2005-08-16 Thread hepabolu
Ross Gardler wrote: I'll test the Forrest plugin on the Daisy docs today. I'm not sure why my first version never made it to the list, so here it goes again: I want the first new version of the website to be as it was when the reported missing docs were there, i.e. the old navigation

Re: [VOTE] Website update process - Ross

2005-08-16 Thread Ross Gardler
hepabolu wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: I'll test the Forrest plugin on the Daisy docs today. I'm not sure why my first version never made it to the list, so here it goes again: I want the first new version of the website to be as it was when the reported missing docs were there, i.e. the

Publishing docs from Daisy with Forrest

2005-08-16 Thread Ross Gardler
I'm just testing the Forrest Daisy plugin for publishing your docs. Unfortunately there is a limitation with Daisy at present that means only users with admin rights can access the repository directly. Since I don't have admin rights I can't test things out. There are two solutions: 1) give me

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: It's not really here about adding a new block, but about providing a simple and unified way of solving a common problem in Cocoon, which the current pipeline-based auth-framework doesn't seem to solve (I personally never used it). The interfaces could be in core,

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ Hmm... chicken and egg. How can one create a community around a one man show hosted as SF.net? Furthermore, can there be a community around a bunch of interface and their default implementations? There can at least be community

Re: Publishing docs from Daisy with Forrest

2005-08-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Ross Gardler wrote: I'm just testing the Forrest Daisy plugin for publishing your docs. Unfortunately there is a limitation with Daisy at present that means only users with admin rights can access the repository directly. Since I don't have admin rights I can't test things out. There are two

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Thinking further about it, I completely agree about that we have to many blocks rigth now. But that is not an argument against adding more, rather about removing or at least make optional, blocks that lacks community support. You might remember

Re: Publishing docs from Daisy with Forrest

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ross Gardler wrote: 1) give me admin rights (I'm not a committer on Cocoon though so not sure if you would want to do this) Now I guess it's much easier to give you the admin rights. So +1 for that. Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, SN AG http://www.s-und-n.de

Re: [JCR Block] Viewing content of properties and last modified

2005-08-16 Thread Andreas Hartmann
Michael Wechner wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Michael Wechner wrote: Hi I have two questions re the JCR Block 1) How can one actually access the content of properties? You cannot access them directly with the JCRNodeSource, which is meant to represent file-like abstractions which are

Re: Publishing docs from Daisy with Forrest

2005-08-16 Thread Upayavira
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: 1) give me admin rights (I'm not a committer on Cocoon though so not sure if you would want to do this) Now I guess it's much easier to give you the admin rights. So +1 for that. +1 Do you just need adding to the administrator role? Regards,

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Ralph Goers
Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our download. Ralph

Re: Publishing docs from Daisy with Forrest

2005-08-16 Thread hepabolu
Ross Gardler wrote: 1) give me admin rights (I'm not a committer on Cocoon though so not sure if you would want to do this) 2) someone with admin rights does the testing with my assistance Just to clarify, that's admin rights to the daisy instance only. For the time being I've added admin

Tuning the runnable-manager

2005-08-16 Thread Irv Salisbury
I am currently trying to tune our fairly large cocoon app. I am spending quite a bit of time in the cocoon.xconf file getting pool sizes right, etc. One area I am a little unsure of is the runnable-manager. I haven't found a lot of documentation on the best way to tune this. Does anybody have

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: If there is *high* community interest in hosting it at Apache I'm willing to move. In fact, lack of a community was one of the main reasons in creating Cowarp outside of Apache. I have no idea how to become part of a community at sourceforge. Most seem to have no

Re: [VOTE] Website update process - Ross

2005-08-16 Thread hepabolu
Ross Gardler wrote: So, if you can run the Daisy-to-Forrest export, can you use the old navigation structure documents or should I be rewriting these in Daisy? Yes, just tell me which version of the navigation document you want me to use. In fact this goes for any focuments, by default it

Docs structure using Daisy + Forrest (was Re: [VOTE] Website update process - Ross)

2005-08-16 Thread Ross Gardler
hepabolu wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: So, if you can run the Daisy-to-Forrest export, can you use the old navigation structure documents or should I be rewriting these in Daisy? Yes, just tell me which version of the navigation document you want me to use. In fact this goes for any

Re: Docs structure using Daisy + Forrest (was Re: [VOTE] Website update process - Ross)

2005-08-16 Thread hepabolu
Ross Gardler wrote: Ah, I see I misunderstood your question. The Forrest plugin can use the old site.xml files or new ones defined in Daisy or even a mix of the two (i.e. new ones imported into the old ones). More on this when I have an iniital demo working. In the first instance I'll use

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ralph Goers schrieb: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our download. I think we

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Torsten Curdt
So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our download. I think we should start removing the links to the blocks from

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Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ralph Goers schrieb: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out

Re: oscar or knopflerfish

2005-08-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 16 August 2005 13:37, Upayavira wrote: Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert wrote: Is cocoon going to use knopflerfish or oscar for its default OSGI container? Probably Oscar, or whatever it becomes. However, it may take some time for the Oscar 2.0 code to mature enough for us to be able to

Re: [GT2005] REPOST: GetTogether 2005 Call For Participation - deadline in less than 3 weeks

2005-08-16 Thread Ralph Goers
I'm trying to get approval from my employer to attend. Do you know what the conference cost will be? Can you recommend any hotels? I've never been to Amsterdam (or Europe for that matter) so any help is appreciated. Ralph Arje Cahn wrote: Cocoon

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Ralph Goers wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our download. -1: Complete download

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Ralph Goers
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Torsten Curdt
On 16.08.2005, at 17:31, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd

Core contracts documented on Daisy

2005-08-16 Thread Berin Loritsch
http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/documentation/components/664.html Please note that I am still working on stuff there, but I am taking a break for today. I wanted to cover the really basic root level stuff first so that it is easier to reference that when I get to the higher level

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Ralph Goers wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our download. -1: Complete download must stay. Out of curiosity, why? Comparing lots of other software out there, Cocoon is among the best one with regards to the effort needed

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Torsten Curdt wrote: I also think we should get rid of this huge amount of jars. 0: Does not bother me but whatever :-) It should be a piece of cake to build a full distribution with all dependencies and provide that to make people like Vadim happy :) That's my point exactly; do whatever

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Jorg Heymans
Torsten Curdt wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) +1 I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our download. +1, but using maven should not stop us

RE: [GT2005] REPOST: GetTogether 2005 Call For Participation - deadline in less than 3 weeks

2005-08-16 Thread Arje Cahn
Hi Ralph, I'm trying to get approval from my employer to attend. great! :-) Do you know what the conference cost will be? Can you recommend any hotels? The costs will be displayed on the site this week, and you'll be able to sign up right away. Since this is a community effort, we're

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Leszek Gawron
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really need to get the 3rd party jars out of our

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Leszek Gawron
Torsten Curdt wrote: On 16.08.2005, at 17:31, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So let's switch Cocoon to Maven ;-) I wish it was that simple. I looked at it a month or so ago. A royal PITA. Unfortunately, I also think it is very necessary. We really

Re: FlowJXPathSelectionListBuilder selected item

2005-08-16 Thread Leszek Gawron
Philippe Guillard wrote: Hi, Hope i'm not wrong, but i seems to me that the FlowJXPathSelectionListBuilder (/src/blocks/forms/java/org/apache/cocoon/forms/datatype/FlowJXPathSelectionListBuilder.java) is missing something to add the html tag selected for the item selected in a

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Torsten Curdt
I am often working using a lousy GPRS internet connection (like now :)). I download big things while connected to LAN and I need to be sure that I have all deps fetched when going on holiday. If I had to fetch all dependencies manually (and not only from cocoon) I would always miss

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Ralph Goers
Leszek Gawron wrote: -(-(-1)) ! :) I am often working using a lousy GPRS internet connection (like now :)). I download big things while connected to LAN and I need to be sure that I have all deps fetched when going on holiday. If I had to fetch all dependencies manually (and not only from

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Leszek Gawron
Torsten Curdt wrote: I am often working using a lousy GPRS internet connection (like now :)). I download big things while connected to LAN and I need to be sure that I have all deps fetched when going on holiday. If I had to fetch all dependencies manually (and not only from cocoon) I

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 16.08.2005 17:51, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Comparing lots of other software out there, Cocoon is among the best one with regards to the effort needed to get up and running. All you need is: download/unzip build.bat cocoon.bat No need to fight with dependency-fetching-tools, hunt for

Documentation break until next week

2005-08-16 Thread Berin Loritsch
I've got the core contracts for the sitemap documented (need some sanity checking there), and documentation for creating a simple Action up and ready for review. You can view it here: http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/documentation/components/664.html I'm going to have to take a break

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 16.08.2005 15:04, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: It's not really here about adding a new block, but about providing a simple and unified way of solving a common problem in Cocoon, which the current pipeline-based auth-framework doesn't seem to solve (I personally never used it). The interfaces

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 16.08.2005 15:04, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: It's not really here about adding a new block, but about providing a simple and unified way of solving a common problem in Cocoon, which the current pipeline-based auth-framework doesn't seem to solve (I personally never used

Questions about pooling

2005-08-16 Thread Irv Salisbury
I have a few questions about pooling 1. Where is the code that creates all the poolable objects and loads them into a pool? It seems like there is some avalon class that controls the pool and implements the pool. 2. Does anyone have any insight into what methods are used to determine if the

Re: Questions about pooling

2005-08-16 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Irv Salisbury wrote: I have a few questions about pooling 1. Where is the code that creates all the poolable objects and loads them into a pool? It seems like there is some avalon class that controls the pool and implements the pool.

Re: Questions about pooling

2005-08-16 Thread Irv Salisbury
Thanks! On 8/16/05, Vadim Gritsenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irv Salisbury wrote: I have a few questions about pooling 1. Where is the code that creates all the poolable objects and loads them into a pool? It seems like there is some avalon class that controls the pool and implements

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez schrieb: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: For the demo portal, I replaced the authentication framework with CoWarp which provides imho a much nicer and cleaner way for plugging in your authentication mechanism. CoWarp is a 35

Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...)

2005-08-16 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Antonio Gallardo wrote: If ..., I will like to propose for the next cocoon 2.1.x release to set the monimal JVM requirement to 1.4. Can I start a vote about moving to 1.4? -1 for change of JVM requirement in the 2.1.8 release, which should be released ASAP anyway - it is delayed too much