Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
Why not offer a great UX on the web and customer support channels? Seems to work for Netflix - * Netflix talks - http://www.brandonschauer.com/blog/?p=59 Netflix also appear to invest in their web channel - http://www.uie.com/articles/kane_interview/ Suggest the business design opportunity is to offer to move or bridge users to channels (at the right time) to help find an answer whilst at the same time optimizing an opportunity for the business. The problem is, often channels are completely disconnected from each other and broken. So if I see a phone number on the web site, I then have to navigate through an IVRS when I call. Yikes! The question for an UX Designer is how you can weave all these pieces together without deliberately pitting one channel against the other i.e. lets make the web design crap so they call our Customer Support. rgds, Dan -- Daniel Szuc Principal Usability Consultant Apogee Usability Asia Ltd www.apogeehk.com Usability in Asia The Usability Kit - www.theusabilitykit.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=28719 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
Daniel Szuc: The question for an UX Designer is how you can weave all these pieces together without deliberately pitting one channel against the other Because a) this decision is almost never the purview of a UX Designer, b) management sees a legitimate source of revenue in post-sale services and likely the existing business model requires it, and c) management doesn't believe (or has never been shown) that revenue loss from post-sale services can be overcome by revenue gain from better UX (and presumably the ensuing higher volume). Likewise solutions at the design competition or let's clean up the home page level are woefully inadequate to remedy what's essentially a business strategy question, where design practitioners aren't currently asked to get involved in. -- Kontra http://counternotions.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
Likewise solutions at the design competition or let's clean up the home page level are woefully inadequate to remedy what's essentially a business strategy question, where design practitioners aren't currently asked to get involved in. Agree and its good to start somewhere. Suggest that over time more business is paying attention to words like user experience,customer experience,usability etc etc and opening their doors to getting design practitioners to help at a strategic level. The business may not totally get what we do but they are definitely interested :) Side note - Be interesting to get a gauge from the community as to how busy they are now and how their UX teams are managing the flow of work. My guess is that people are busy! Which is a good thing! Liya Zheng talked about her experience in a workshop she gave in China in 2007 on Communicating Your Design Vision -- http://www.upachina.org/userfriendly2007/pwcontent/w_liya_en.html , where she is not only helping the business at a screen by screen or widget level but also at a strategic level at her company. If she or Josh Seiden is listening they may be able to elaborate a little more as its good stuff. rgds, Dan On 8 May 2008, at 3:04 PM, Kontra wrote: Daniel Szuc: The question for an UX Designer is how you can weave all these pieces together without deliberately pitting one channel against the other Because a) this decision is almost never the purview of a UX Designer, b) management sees a legitimate source of revenue in post-sale services and likely the existing business model requires it, and c) management doesn't believe (or has never been shown) that revenue loss from post-sale services can be overcome by revenue gain from better UX (and presumably the ensuing higher volume). Likewise solutions at the design competition or let's clean up the home page level are woefully inadequate to remedy what's essentially a business strategy question, where design practitioners aren't currently asked to get involved in. -- Kontra http://counternotions.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] [Event] Reminder: London IxDA meeting tonight!
For those that have RSVPed: don't forget about tonight! Map: http://snipurl.com/daredigital Unfortunately it's too late to RSVP now, however you haven't missed out entirely - we will be going to the Yorkshire Grey pub after the meeting from about 8:30. Map: http://snipurl.com/yorkshiregrey If anyone needs some help getting there, my mobile is: O7879 655 3OO Regards, Alex. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Alexander Livingstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IxDA's very own Dave Malouf is coming to town! John Gibbard has very kindly offered his (relaxed, pleasant) workplace as a venue for the next meeting. This is fortunate as there's a distinct possibility I'm going to be shunted of to Asia for three weeks or so during the time when the next meeting is meant to be taking place / Dave is over. They have very kindly offered to sponsor the event and provide food and drink - remember that attendance won't cost you a penny! You can arrive from about 6:30 and there will be a structured discussion from 7:00. 7:30 to 8:30 will be general networking and remember to bring business cards! At 8:30 we'll be retiring to the Yorkshire Grey pub for those who wish to. So - the venue has changed to the offices of: dare digital (corner of Margaret St. and Great Gitchfield St.) 13-14 Margaret Street London W1W 8RN Map: http://tinyurl.com/3ql96f Nearest tube: Oxford Circus Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
GD may have profitability but do they have sustainability. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=28719 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
I will plug my hosting provider. I get nothing to do so. They don't believe in bribing people to resell their services. They do everything GD does - better. Registration, Hosting, transfers, everything. At reasonable prices. MediaTemple is great. When I have had issues - I can submit a request - or call them. They answer the phone promptly, they never - ever - ever upsell - and they pride themselves on delivering real value with a friendly voice on the phone. And their site is relatively clean, simple, and easy to use. No clutter, no fuss - great service. GD can spend millions on ads - but they will never have MT's brand loyalty. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Patricia Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GD may have profitability but do they have sustainability. -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
I will plug my hosting provider. I get nothing to do so. They don't believe in bribing people to resell their services. They do everything GD does - better. Registration, Hosting, transfers, everything. At reasonable prices. MediaTemple is great. When I have had issues - I can submit a request - or call them. They answer the phone promptly, they never - ever - ever upsell - and they pride themselves on delivering real value with a friendly voice on the phone. And their site is relatively clean, simple, and easy to use. No clutter, no fuss - great service. GD can spend millions on ads - but they will never have MT's brand loyalty. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Patricia Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GD may have profitability but do they have sustainability. -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
So I'm half watching the TV last night and I look up during a commercial for Ford automobiles, and they are talking about their new navigation system and the guy in the commercial (or an actor claiming to be) says something along the lines of, I design the user interface. I like taking hard problems and making them simple for people to use. Needless to say, I almost fell out of my chair. Anyone else seen this commercial? I can't find it online, or even reference to it online. As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
I saw a slightly different one - this time staring a woman who was obviously some kind of HFE, designer - something doing user testing for the dashboard on the ford fusion, talking about how she tests prototypes with real users to inform the design. So it looks like they have at least 2 tv spots focused on the how and why of making things better for people. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm half watching the TV last night and I look up during a commercial for Ford automobiles, and they are talking about their new navigation system and the guy in the commercial (or an actor claiming to be) says something along the lines of, I design the user interface. I like taking hard problems and making them simple for people to use. Needless to say, I almost fell out of my chair. Anyone else seen this commercial? I can't find it online, or even reference to it online. As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Very interesting... could this be the start of the tipping point for our industry?? On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a slightly different one - this time staring a woman who was obviously some kind of HFE, designer - something doing user testing for the dashboard on the ford fusion, talking about how she tests prototypes with real users to inform the design. So it looks like they have at least 2 tv spots focused on the how and why of making things better for people. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm half watching the TV last night and I look up during a commercial for Ford automobiles, and they are talking about their new navigation system and the guy in the commercial (or an actor claiming to be) says something along the lines of, I design the user interface. I like taking hard problems and making them simple for people to use. Needless to say, I almost fell out of my chair. Anyone else seen this commercial? I can't find it online, or even reference to it online. As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Art provokes thinking, design solves problems w: http://www.davidshaw.info Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Wow, I have to see that commercial. That's great news for what we do. I had the same reaction when seeing the Deborah Adler ads on Target. I made this prescription bottle easier to understand. Such a simple thing, and yet it's amazing when it's highlighted. Bill On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Couldn't find the original tv spot either, but I found one video on their website where they show off their testing with driving simulators - they even mention the term human-machine interaction :) It's the last video on that page: http://www.fordvehicles.com/forddriveone/ -- Alex On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm half watching the TV last night and I look up during a commercial for Ford automobiles, and they are talking about their new navigation system and the guy in the commercial (or an actor claiming to be) says something along the lines of, I design the user interface. I like taking hard problems and making them simple for people to use. Needless to say, I almost fell out of my chair. Anyone else seen this commercial? I can't find it online, or even reference to it online. As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Hello.....is there any university which offer UXD???
The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor has a terrific program. http://www.si.umich.edu/msi/hci.htm --Andrea Richeson MILS '96 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=28769 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
As an aside, why does it have to be so hard to find most ads? Why are most companies not smart enough to put them up on their website and help fuel the buzz? I realise there may be issues around rights/licensing etc. but I can't imagine that big companies don't have enough bargaining power to sort out these issues! -- Alex On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Alexander Baxevanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't find the original tv spot either, but I found one video on their website where they show off their testing with driving simulators - they even mention the term human-machine interaction :) It's the last video on that page: http://www.fordvehicles.com/forddriveone/ -- Alex On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm half watching the TV last night and I look up during a commercial for Ford automobiles, and they are talking about their new navigation system and the guy in the commercial (or an actor claiming to be) says something along the lines of, I design the user interface. I like taking hard problems and making them simple for people to use. Needless to say, I almost fell out of my chair. Anyone else seen this commercial? I can't find it online, or even reference to it online. As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Layered/Faceted Navigation Techniques
For a start, take a look at: http://www.boxesandarrows.com/person/51-mikesteckel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=28562 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Yes, the commercial are good. There are now two Ford commercials that focus on HF, interaction design, and the use of virtual reality to simulate concepts early. There were some in the past by Bank of America where they actually showed a clip of researchers doing prototypes and workflow analysis, and testing as well a working on future concepts that was good (actually better than their ATM). The term user experience shows up now and then, but I don't hear the term usability used that much (I think that it is not a term that is understand by the general public at all and really like the last sentence in the Ford commercial about making them simple for people to use. I would like to rename world usability day (WUD - awful acronym something like Make Things Work Day. Chauncey On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm half watching the TV last night and I look up during a commercial for Ford automobiles, and they are talking about their new navigation system and the guy in the commercial (or an actor claiming to be) says something along the lines of, I design the user interface. I like taking hard problems and making them simple for people to use. Needless to say, I almost fell out of my chair. Anyone else seen this commercial? I can't find it online, or even reference to it online. As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
As if dishy eye candy Robert Downey Jr. and Gwyneth Paltrow weren't enough, the new Iron Man movie is chock-a-block with cool user interface design. Surely interactive holographic CAD drawings are just around the corner, right? And a heads-up display in every window of my house? Still, there's no tech like low-tech. I think I fell in love when the hero sand-casts a titanium o-ring while being held captive in an Afghan cave. -- Kim Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Question about scannable bar code on a mobile display
Hello Morten- Enjoyed your presentation at Interaction08. I wonder if you can provide some information, based on your extensive research and knowledge of mobile platforms. A client has asked about the feasibility of displaying a scannable bar code on a mobile device, like a cell phone or PDA. Here are my questions: Do most devices support the requisite resolution for this to work? How does the difference in size and scale of each pixel and display impact the readability of the barcode? Have you ever heard of or seen this in action? How would the user get this barcode...would it have to be MMS, or would the e-mail client be able to display this kind of content? I am hoping you can provide some insight, or point me to a good source. I am copying the IxDA list in case anyone else out there has any clues. Thanks, Dante Dante Murphy | Director of User Experience| D I G I T A S H E A L T H 229 South 18th Street | Rittenhouse Square | Philadelphia, PA 19103 | USA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.digitashealth.com http://www.digitashealth.com/ A brand of Digitas, a member of the Paris-based Publicis Groupe S.A. (Euronext Paris: FR130577), the world's fourth largest communications group, second largest media counsel and buying group, and a global leader in digital and healthcare communications. The information in this email and subsequent attachments may contain legally privileged, proprietary and confidential information that is intended for a particular recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of the contents of this email information is prohibited. When addressed to Digitas Health clients or vendors, any information contained in this email is subject to the terms and conditions in the governing contract. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by telephone or by return email, and delete the email. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
On May 8, 2008, at 7:48 AM, clemens lango wrote: is it maybe *me* who appears in this tv-spot? Not unless you are now African-American. :) I think you would remember a film crew filming you for several days. :) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Question about scannable bar code on a mobiledisplay
From: Dante Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] : A client has asked about the feasibility of displaying a scannable bar : code on a mobile device, like a cell phone or PDA. snip - other questions : : Have you ever heard of or seen this in action? : In the UK, I have heard that you can buy train tickets for trains that depart from a specific station (Marylebone) and have a bar code appear on your mobile device. You then flash the device at a scanner on entry to the platform instead of using a paper ticket. Haven't tried it myself. Best, Caroline Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07990 570647 Effortmark Ltd Usability - Forms - Content We have moved. New address: 16 Heath Road Leighton Buzzard LU7 3AB Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Question about scannable bar code on a mobile display
Hi Dante, Here's an account of an iPhone being used to board an American Airlines flight by scanning a PDF of the boarding pass barcode displayed on screen: http://gwhiz.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/aa-boarding-pass-iphone/ // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=28823 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
Why not offer a great UX on the web and customer support channels? Believe me, I argued this point on many occasions. And their plan of driving people to the call center never stopped me from putting out designs that required little to no customer support. The best marketing tool is a great product. -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
GD may have profitability but do they have sustainability. They've been in business since 1998, have been listed as one of the top 50 fastest growing companies at least once, and are the most profitable domain registrar in the world. Their biggest problem with sustainability is finding more office space. When I left, the had just finished rearranging a room to get more desks into it. One guy had a makeshift cube in a hallway between offices. -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
Warning, potential spoilers... The assembled teens at our house took us along and we all had a good time. There were two thought-provoking things for me: 1. Most unrealistic moment in the film: when Jeff Bridges plugs the stolen power supply into the Evil Robot and it works first off, without needing to shim, rewire the connector, configure the IP address, etc. I laughed aloud. Flying robots and 3-D talking holograms seem much more likely somehow. 2. Thing I was surprised and delighted by: the giant fighting robots in the film could be operated by adults. Many of the mechas among my anime favorites can only, inexplicably, be operated by middle school students. Michael Micheletti Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
There must be other metrics to judge them on. McDonalds has served billions and billions of burgers. They are still arguably the most disgusting, unhealthy, hormone laden fat patties guarenteed to kill you around - but they are cheap and ubiquitous. Google is the most useless search engine ever invented for true research and scholarship - but everyone except the north korean's use it. I won't eat McD burgers, I won't, unless forced, use Google for real search, and I won't use GD for registration or hosting. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GD may have profitability but do they have sustainability. They've been in business since 1998, have been listed as one of the top 50 fastest growing companies at least once, and are the most profitable domain registrar in the world. Their biggest problem with sustainability is finding more office space. When I left, the had just finished rearranging a room to get more desks into it. One guy had a makeshift cube in a hallway between offices. -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
It's highly coincidental that this topic came up, since I too was greatly impressed by the user interface ideas presented in Iron Man. Immediately afterward, that's all I could think and talk about. I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that kind of reaction... [spoiler] I was intrigued with the manipulation of the suit design model in 3D holographic space (and the trash can. nice touch.). I had this anticipatory excitement come over me, since what appeared in Minority Report became reality (to a some degree) in Perceptive Pixel, and because just over the last week or so there have been discussions on this list regarding free hand gestures, so perhaps we will see the holographic 3D interactions in the not too distant future... very exciting to think about. [/spoiler] Film sure can be great inspiration. Thanks for bringing up the topic! /// eks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Micheletti Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:31 AM To: Kim Bieler Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man Warning, potential spoilers... The assembled teens at our house took us along and we all had a good time. There were two thought-provoking things for me: 1. Most unrealistic moment in the film: when Jeff Bridges plugs the stolen power supply into the Evil Robot and it works first off, without needing to shim, rewire the connector, configure the IP address, etc. I laughed aloud. Flying robots and 3-D talking holograms seem much more likely somehow. 2. Thing I was surprised and delighted by: the giant fighting robots in the film could be operated by adults. Many of the mechas among my anime favorites can only, inexplicably, be operated by middle school students. Michael Micheletti Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
I'm sure many of us enjoy watching sci-fi movies and reading fiction which explores the future of UI design and technologies. I must admit feeling very inspired by the Iron Man concept of having the ability to design and produce advanced technologies in one's own home. To a large extent, web entrepreneurs can already do that, so it can be a reality now - with the right skills. However, something to bear in mind with film and book depictions of technologies: They are not designed to work for real people. They are not designed to be feasible. They are not designed to be cost-effective. What they are designed to do is to have visual appeal, or to sound exciting. Bruce Sterling (an author of such books) makes this point clearly here: http://www.vimeo.com/769193 VR and gestural interfaces and anything 3D certainly do have some application in the real world, but more importantly, they look really good flashing up from a designer desk in a mansion in Malibu. =) -Jeff On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Evan K. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's highly coincidental that this topic came up, since I too was greatly impressed by the user interface ideas presented in Iron Man. Immediately afterward, that's all I could think and talk about. I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that kind of reaction... [spoiler] I was intrigued with the manipulation of the suit design model in 3D holographic space (and the trash can. nice touch.). I had this anticipatory excitement come over me, since what appeared in Minority Report became reality (to a some degree) in Perceptive Pixel, and because just over the last week or so there have been discussions on this list regarding free hand gestures, so perhaps we will see the holographic 3D interactions in the not too distant future... very exciting to think about. [/spoiler] Film sure can be great inspiration. Thanks for bringing up the topic! /// eks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Micheletti Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:31 AM To: Kim Bieler Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man Warning, potential spoilers... The assembled teens at our house took us along and we all had a good time. There were two thought-provoking things for me: 1. Most unrealistic moment in the film: when Jeff Bridges plugs the stolen power supply into the Evil Robot and it works first off, without needing to shim, rewire the connector, configure the IP address, etc. I laughed aloud. Flying robots and 3-D talking holograms seem much more likely somehow. 2. Thing I was surprised and delighted by: the giant fighting robots in the film could be operated by adults. Many of the mechas among my anime favorites can only, inexplicably, be operated by middle school students. Michael Micheletti Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Thanks, Jeff Jeff Axup, Ph.D. Principal Consultant, Mobile Community Design Consulting, San Diego Research: Mobile Group Research Methods, Social Networks, Group Usability E-mail: axup at userdesign.com Blog: http://mobilecommunitydesign.com Moblog: http://memeaddict.blogspot.com Designers mine the raw bits of tomorrow. They shape them for the present day. - Bruce Sterling Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
I beg to differ. The most unrealistic moment was when the heroine, wearing five-inch heels, ran (!) away from the giant robot across a gridded floor without getting stuck. Back to UI: The holograph thing was really cool, especially since he used a wand to point the file off his desktop display onto the holograph table display. I can tell a lot of us are going to be watching the DVD in slow motion to see all the nuances. On May 8, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Michael Micheletti wrote: 1. Most unrealistic moment in the film: when Jeff Bridges plugs the stolen power supply into the Evil Robot and it works first off, without needing to shim, rewire the connector, configure the IP address, etc. I laughed aloud. Flying robots and 3-D talking holograms seem much more likely somehow. -- Kim Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
On May 8, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Dan Saffer wrote: As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. So the guy in the commercial says he designs user interfaces and you translate that into he does interaction design. Even to this day I still find that tragically amusing. Unless of course the folks on the board for the IxDA want to finally acknowledge that to design user interfaces you have to be to do more than just worry about the interaction piece and get into all those other distractions like pixel accurate type, color and composition for the final design plus more. I still don't understand the disdain for calling oneself an interface designer. It is and always has been the logical choice to describe the job since it's also the easiest thing to do to say, I design interfaces therefore I'm an interface designer. This is a rhetorical remark, by the way. But even so, thread hijack commencing in three... two... one... -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
bait - bite 'cause I probably design so much more than just the interface. Mark On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 8, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Dan Saffer wrote: As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. So the guy in the commercial says he designs user interfaces and you translate that into he does interaction design. Even to this day I still find that tragically amusing. Unless of course the folks on the board for the IxDA want to finally acknowledge that to design user interfaces you have to be to do more than just worry about the interaction piece and get into all those other distractions like pixel accurate type, color and composition for the final design plus more. I still don't understand the disdain for calling oneself an interface designer. It is and always has been the logical choice to describe the job since it's also the easiest thing to do to say, I design interfaces therefore I'm an interface designer. This is a rhetorical remark, by the way. But even so, thread hijack commencing in three... two... one... -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Exactly. I have [D/d]esigned structures, taxonomies, behaviors, interactions, interfaces, ships on fire off the shoulder of orion, doesn't matter what you call me, soon all these designs will be gone -- like tears in rain. But I do like the quote for all those Design Thinking wankers - will all their strategy power points be in MOMA in 20 years? Nope. Not a one. Ha! I was wondering how I was going to get a blade runner quote in this discussion - and Boom! I designed it in. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:32 PM, mark schraad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bait - bite 'cause I probably design so much more than just the interface. Mark On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 8, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Dan Saffer wrote: As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. So the guy in the commercial says he designs user interfaces and you translate that into he does interaction design. Even to this day I still find that tragically amusing. Unless of course the folks on the board for the IxDA want to finally acknowledge that to design user interfaces you have to be to do more than just worry about the interaction piece and get into all those other distractions like pixel accurate type, color and composition for the final design plus more. I still don't understand the disdain for calling oneself an interface designer. It is and always has been the logical choice to describe the job since it's also the easiest thing to do to say, I design interfaces therefore I'm an interface designer. This is a rhetorical remark, by the way. But even so, thread hijack commencing in three... two... one... -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
one of the things that was brought up - maybe on this list, i can't recall - with the Minority Report 3D gestural interface was that it would ridiculously exhausting to stand around all day with waving your hands in the air with your arms raised up hight than your chest. try doing it for 10 minutes. jd On May 8, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Axup wrote: I'm sure many of us enjoy watching sci-fi movies and reading fiction which explores the future of UI design and technologies. I must admit feeling very inspired by the Iron Man concept of having the ability to design and produce advanced technologies in one's own home. To a large extent, web entrepreneurs can already do that, so it can be a reality now - with the right skills. However, something to bear in mind with film and book depictions of technologies: They are not designed to work for real people. They are not designed to be feasible. They are not designed to be cost-effective. What they are designed to do is to have visual appeal, or to sound exciting. Bruce Sterling (an author of such books) makes this point clearly here: http://www.vimeo.com/769193 VR and gestural interfaces and anything 3D certainly do have some application in the real world, but more importantly, they look really good flashing up from a designer desk in a mansion in Malibu. =) -Jeff On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Evan K. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's highly coincidental that this topic came up, since I too was greatly impressed by the user interface ideas presented in Iron Man. Immediately afterward, that's all I could think and talk about. I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that kind of reaction... [spoiler] I was intrigued with the manipulation of the suit design model in 3D holographic space (and the trash can. nice touch.). I had this anticipatory excitement come over me, since what appeared in Minority Report became reality (to a some degree) in Perceptive Pixel, and because just over the last week or so there have been discussions on this list regarding free hand gestures, so perhaps we will see the holographic 3D interactions in the not too distant future... very exciting to think about. [/spoiler] Film sure can be great inspiration. Thanks for bringing up the topic! /// eks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Micheletti Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:31 AM To: Kim Bieler Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man Warning, potential spoilers... The assembled teens at our house took us along and we all had a good time. There were two thought-provoking things for me: 1. Most unrealistic moment in the film: when Jeff Bridges plugs the stolen power supply into the Evil Robot and it works first off, without needing to shim, rewire the connector, configure the IP address, etc. I laughed aloud. Flying robots and 3-D talking holograms seem much more likely somehow. 2. Thing I was surprised and delighted by: the giant fighting robots in the film could be operated by adults. Many of the mechas among my anime favorites can only, inexplicably, be operated by middle school students. Michael Micheletti Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Thanks, Jeff Jeff Axup, Ph.D. Principal Consultant, Mobile Community Design Consulting, San Diego Research: Mobile Group Research Methods, Social Networks, Group Usability E-mail: axup at userdesign.com Blog: http://mobilecommunitydesign.com Moblog: http://memeaddict.blogspot.com Designers mine the raw bits of tomorrow. They shape them for the present day. - Bruce Sterling Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help - - Jeffrey D. Gimzek | Senior User Experience Designer http://www.glassdoor.com Welcome
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Blade Runner ref is much appreciated... G Chris On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly. I have [D/d]esigned structures, taxonomies, behaviors, interactions, interfaces, ships on fire off the shoulder of orion, doesn't matter what you call me, soon all these designs will be gone -- like tears in rain. But I do like the quote for all those Design Thinking wankers - will all their strategy power points be in MOMA in 20 years? Nope. Not a one. Ha! I was wondering how I was going to get a blade runner quote in this discussion - and Boom! I designed it in. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:32 PM, mark schraad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bait - bite 'cause I probably design so much more than just the interface. Mark On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 8, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Dan Saffer wrote: As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. So the guy in the commercial says he designs user interfaces and you translate that into he does interaction design. Even to this day I still find that tragically amusing. Unless of course the folks on the board for the IxDA want to finally acknowledge that to design user interfaces you have to be to do more than just worry about the interaction piece and get into all those other distractions like pixel accurate type, color and composition for the final design plus more. I still don't understand the disdain for calling oneself an interface designer. It is and always has been the logical choice to describe the job since it's also the easiest thing to do to say, I design interfaces therefore I'm an interface designer. This is a rhetorical remark, by the way. But even so, thread hijack commencing in three... two... one... -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
On May 8, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: So the guy in the commercial says he designs user interfaces and you translate that into he does interaction design. Even to this day I still find that tragically amusing. Unless of course the folks on the board for the IxDA want to finally acknowledge that to design user interfaces you have to be to do more than just worry about the interaction piece and get into all those other distractions like pixel accurate type, color and composition for the final design plus more. Here we go again. Andrei's view = interface design interaction design Majority's view = interaction design interface design This is a rhetorical remark, by the way. I don't think that's possible in a public forum—at least not this one. ;) Jack Jack L. Moffett Interaction Designer inmedius 412.459.0310 x219 http://www.inmedius.com Things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler. - Albert Einstein Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Will's humble view is neither interaction interface, nor interface interaction; but at some fundamental level: interaction design ∝ interface design; interaction != interface :-) On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Jack Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 8, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: So the guy in the commercial says he designs user interfaces and you translate that into he does interaction design. Even to this day I still find that tragically amusing. Unless of course the folks on the board for the IxDA want to finally acknowledge that to design user interfaces you have to be to do more than just worry about the interaction piece and get into all those other distractions like pixel accurate type, color and composition for the final design plus more. Here we go again. Andrei's view = interface design interaction design Majority's view = interaction design interface design This is a rhetorical remark, by the way. I don't think that's possible in a public forum―at least not this one. ;) Jack Jack L. Moffett Interaction Designer inmedius 412.459.0310 x219 http://www.inmedius.com Things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler. - Albert Einstein Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
On May 8, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Jack Moffett wrote: Here we go again. Actually... my view is: interface design = interface design interaction design as it applies to software is interface design (as in it is a subset of interface design in that case) interaction design as it applies to other domains is someone else's problem and I don't care how it's defined Just correcting the record. -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
You know, this was a moderately interesting post until this f'd up debate started again on definition. Please don't hijack posts with this nonsense, it's really trying, Thanks, Rich On 5/8/08, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 8, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Jack Moffett wrote: Here we go again. Actually... my view is: interface design = interface design interaction design as it applies to software is interface design (as in it is a subset of interface design in that case) interaction design as it applies to other domains is someone else's problem and I don't care how it's defined Just correcting the record. -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Joseph Rich Rogan President UX/UI Inc. http://www.jrrogan.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Kim Bieler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ. The most unrealistic moment was when the heroine, wearing five-inch heels, ran (!) away from the giant robot across a gridded floor without getting stuck. Hah! I think creating that incredible machine in a week was pretty impressive as well. :-) I thought the 3D Holographs were inspiring as well - but the robots really got me excited. I could finally have that extra set of arms - and while not always perfect (the fire extinguisher) certainly they were helpful. Carol Carol J. Smith Principal Consultant Midwest Research, LLC - www.mw-research.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] or cell: 773.218.6568 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
I did see this one! It cracked me up a little as I just finished researching and designing a GPS interface for a Northern Cali company... The commercial had me thinking about how quickly in-car nav systems are becoming obsolete to handheld and phone versions. Most of the people I interviewed in my research ended up either using, or planning to use a handheld or phone system due to portability, upgrade or end-of-life issues. ...not to hijack the thread, but has anyone seen the Prius' built-in nav system? I'm working on a paper now where this system is the prime example of usability faux pas. The Infinity system, in contrast, was better. It was truly educational to see how each of the system (Garmin, TomTom, built-ins) dealt with the unique issues of this space. I'm just fascinated with these mobile design spaces. Best, -Dan Dan Peknik Interaction/Industrial Design Bay Area California Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Hi all, I believe this is the woman we're discussing: http://www.ics.uci.edu/computerscience/vrst/program/program_baron.php Great ads! Carol Carol J. Smith Principal Consultant Midwest Research, LLC - www.mw-research.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] or cell: 773.218.6568 On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a slightly different one - this time staring a woman who was obviously some kind of HFE, designer - something doing user testing for the dashboard on the ford fusion, talking about how she tests prototypes with real users to inform the design. So it looks like they have at least 2 tv spots focused on the how and why of making things better for people. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm half watching the TV last night and I look up during a commercial for Ford automobiles, and they are talking about their new navigation system and the guy in the commercial (or an actor claiming to be) says something along the lines of, I design the user interface. I like taking hard problems and making them simple for people to use. Needless to say, I almost fell out of my chair. Anyone else seen this commercial? I can't find it online, or even reference to it online. As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Wow - yes - That is the woman in the ad that played last night. Wouldn't want to get into a debate with her - she has a blackbelt and would kick most of our butts. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Carol Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I believe this is the woman we're discussing: http://www.ics.uci.edu/computerscience/vrst/program/program_baron.php Great ads! Carol Carol J. Smith Principal Consultant Midwest Research, LLC - www.mw-research.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] or cell: 773.218.6568 On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a slightly different one - this time staring a woman who was obviously some kind of HFE, designer - something doing user testing for the dashboard on the ford fusion, talking about how she tests prototypes with real users to inform the design. So it looks like they have at least 2 tv spots focused on the how and why of making things better for people. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dan Saffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm half watching the TV last night and I look up during a commercial for Ford automobiles, and they are talking about their new navigation system and the guy in the commercial (or an actor claiming to be) says something along the lines of, I design the user interface. I like taking hard problems and making them simple for people to use. Needless to say, I almost fell out of my chair. Anyone else seen this commercial? I can't find it online, or even reference to it online. As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
On May 8, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Will Evans wrote: Wouldn't want to get into a debate with her - she has a blackbelt and would kick most of our butts. You did notice that her black belt was in Six Sigma, right? She could kick our butts in quality control, I suppose... ;-) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
reducing your variances to well within acceptable tollerances On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeff Garbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 8, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Will Evans wrote: Wouldn't want to get into a debate with her - she has a blackbelt and would kick most of our butts. You did notice that her black belt was in Six Sigma, right? She could kick our butts in quality control, I suppose... ;-) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
We'd all be a lot healthier though! MU study, similar point to marked benefits from not sitting. Maybe my arms would look more like TC's too. Bruce one of the things that was brought up - maybe on this list, i can't recall - with the Minority Report 3D gestural interface was that it would ridiculously exhausting to stand around all day with waving your hands in the air with your arms raised up hight than your chest. try doing it for 10 minutes. jd Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
hey dan, that sounds interesting! it seems our discipline is getting more and more awareness in the public... is it maybe *me* who appears in this tv-spot? i am asking because i am working in the interaction design team of ford of europe - having coined the new brand interaction dna and the visual design ;-) if anyone in the community identifies a link to this spot i would really be interested in seeing it! cheers, clemens. .. http://interactiondesign.de germany Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] IxDA Berlin/Germany - new local group
Hi, getting it local in Berlin/Germany! For anybody who thinks time has come to start a local IXDA chapter for Berlin, feel invited to connect! I`ve jst started the chapter and set up a groupsite to get us together and organise a first meeting. Just click yourself in: http://ixdaberlin.collectivex.com Collective X is a networking platform for discussions, social community stuff and public calendars. Join the site, make your own profile if you like, post Berlin related news, share experiences and talk about interaction design. And most important: contribute to find place and date for the first Berlin IXDA Get-Together. Any questions or suggestion? Post it on the collectiveX site or just e-mail me. See you there! Thomas Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Really impressive. At the site Alex sent, there are lots of videos showing etnographic studies, user test and so on. Beautifull to see... I hope this kind of ad came to Brazil... :) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=28813 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Berlin/Germany - new local group
getting it local in Berlin/Germany! http://ixdaberlin.collectivex.com Congratulations! I knew it was a mistake to leave Berlin ;) Cheers, Jens. -- Jens Meiert http://meiert.com/en/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Dan said: As far as I know, this is the first time an interaction designer has appeared on a TV commercial for a product, much less mention bits of our philosophy. I wonder, how many instances have their been of Industrial Designers in product commercials? Most recently, the Dyson commercials speak well towards design process. I'm sure I've seen car commercials in the past that feature designers doing body sculpts and the like. Jack Jack L. Moffett Interaction Designer inmedius 412.459.0310 x219 http://www.inmedius.com Design is a process - an intimate collaboration between engineers, designers, and clients. - Henry Dreyfuss Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
Indeed the home fab, was fab. The judicious use of knob to turn on otherwise soft and gestural interfaces...everywhere. The home automation having a sense of humor. The use of robotics helping us out, semi-automously like pets even when we don't explicitly tell them what to do (e.g. giving the heart when he was reaching for it). The acquisition time, as the suits sensors tried to scan the world. Of course the most unrealistic thing are just the physics behind the suit/world. like it protecting him when he crashed from 10K up, look at an aircraft show accident...even titanium shreds.Heat dissapation from whatever power sources being used for thrust. I don't think it was a titanium o-ring, it was cobalt. But yeah, cool. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Kim Bieler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As if dishy eye candy Robert Downey Jr. and Gwyneth Paltrow weren't enough, the new Iron Man movie is chock-a-block with cool user interface design. Surely interactive holographic CAD drawings are just around the corner, right? And a heads-up display in every window of my house? Still, there's no tech like low-tech. I think I fell in love when the hero sand-casts a titanium o-ring while being held captive in an Afghan cave. -- Kim Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Question about scannable bar code on a mobile display
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Dante Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A client has asked about the feasibility of displaying a scannable bar code on a mobile device, like a cell phone or PDA. Do most devices support the requisite resolution for this to work? Yes. But that's the wrong question. The correct question is, can the scanning device scan the bar code on the mobile phone? The answer to that question is ... in places where they are using visual scanners, like in much of Europe, it works fine; in the US, the laser scanners won't work. How does the difference in size and scale of each pixel and display impact the readability of the barcode? The various mobile bar code companies have worked that out nicely. I'd have to go research to see who is currently in the field. Have you ever heard of or seen this in action? Yup. Just not really here. Okay, there are some installations on getting truly paperless airplane tickets: display the ticket data on the phone and the check-in scanner can read it. This is an environment in which the scanner is controlled, so it works better. (maybe movie tickets could do the same, but you'd be behind the competition) How would the user get this barcode...would it have to be MMS, or would the e-mail client be able to display this kind of content? Any which way a picture could get to a phone. MMS is a good answer (be sure you know how to really send MMS so they get to end users). A web site could do it (be sure to size the image so that transcoders don't resize it). An application could do it (but the user would have to get the application). I wouldn't do email unless you really wanted it on computers as well, because so few people have email on their phones. Unless you want to focus on a small set of phones. Consider also IM. -- Barbara Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-785-838-3003 Design For Mobile 22-24 September http://design4mobile.mobi/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Question about scannable bar code on a mobiledisplay
And, just something to consider about doing this in reverse: I'm beginning to see services where I can take a photo of a 2D barcode with my mobile and MMS it to a service and it returns info to me. Example: In a server farm, I snap and send barcode to find out who what sites are on a machine and who owns it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ballard Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:53 PM To: Dante Murphy Cc: IXDA list; Karen Rush Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Question about scannable bar code on a mobiledisplay On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Dante Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A client has asked about the feasibility of displaying a scannable bar code on a mobile device, like a cell phone or PDA. Do most devices support the requisite resolution for this to work? Yes. But that's the wrong question. The correct question is, can the scanning device scan the bar code on the mobile phone? The answer to that question is ... in places where they are using visual scanners, like in much of Europe, it works fine; in the US, the laser scanners won't work. How does the difference in size and scale of each pixel and display impact the readability of the barcode? The various mobile bar code companies have worked that out nicely. I'd have to go research to see who is currently in the field. Have you ever heard of or seen this in action? Yup. Just not really here. Okay, there are some installations on getting truly paperless airplane tickets: display the ticket data on the phone and the check-in scanner can read it. This is an environment in which the scanner is controlled, so it works better. (maybe movie tickets could do the same, but you'd be behind the competition) How would the user get this barcode...would it have to be MMS, or would the e-mail client be able to display this kind of content? Any which way a picture could get to a phone. MMS is a good answer (be sure you know how to really send MMS so they get to end users). A web site could do it (be sure to size the image so that transcoders don't resize it). An application could do it (but the user would have to get the application). I wouldn't do email unless you really wanted it on computers as well, because so few people have email on their phones. Unless you want to focus on a small set of phones. Consider also IM. -- Barbara Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-785-838-3003 Design For Mobile 22-24 September http://design4mobile.mobi/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] the UX hall of shame
The best marketing tool is a great product. - Agree! rgds, Dan On 9 May 2008, at 12:19 AM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote: Why not offer a great UX on the web and customer support channels? Believe me, I argued this point on many occasions. And their plan of driving people to the call center never stopped me from putting out designs that required little to no customer support. The best marketing tool is a great product. -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
Actually I think Don Norman was on a commercial year's ago (with his son?) playing himself as a customer of a financial services company. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=28813 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
Using the wand to transfer the design to the 3D display was so cool! Did you guys also notice the keyboard that he uses? He makes a gesture using his hands over the keyboard, and it lights up.. I'm not sure what the gesture was for! But it looked cool. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'd all be a lot healthier though! MU study, similar point to marked benefits from not sitting. Maybe my arms would look more like TC's too. Bruce one of the things that was brought up - maybe on this list, i can't recall - with the Minority Report 3D gestural interface was that it would ridiculously exhausting to stand around all day with waving your hands in the air with your arms raised up hight than your chest. try doing it for 10 minutes. jd Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
Ok, so here is the missing piece to this discussion: WHO is the movie Interface and Interaction designer that comes up with this stuff ? I mean, effects guys are good ( i know many) but creating the effect and coming up with the IDEA or totally different things. Any ideas on how to track him/her down and get them on the list for some poking and prodding and maybe a web lecture on process ? jd On May 8, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Ajaei Prasad wrote: Using the wand to transfer the design to the 3D display was so cool! Did you guys also notice the keyboard that he uses? He makes a gesture using his hands over the keyboard, and it lights up.. I'm not sure what the gesture was for! But it looked cool. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'd all be a lot healthier though! MU study, similar point to marked benefits from not sitting. Maybe my arms would look more like TC's too. Bruce one of the things that was brought up - maybe on this list, i can't recall - with the Minority Report 3D gestural interface was that it would ridiculously exhausting to stand around all day with waving your hands in the air with your arms raised up hight than your chest. try doing it for 10 minutes. jd -- Jeff Gimzek | Senior User Experience Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glassdoor.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Designer in new Ford Commercial
On May 8, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Dan Saffer wrote: On May 8, 2008, at 7:48 AM, clemens lango wrote: is it maybe *me* who appears in this tv-spot? Not unless you are now African-American. :) Wouldn't that be African-German ? -- Jeff Gimzek | Senior User Experience Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glassdoor.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
One of my favorite movie UI designers is Mark Coleran. He's a nice guy and frequents the After Effects email list. His show reel is here: http://www.coleran.com/markcoleranreell.html Don't show this stuff to excitable product managers or you'll never produce anything usable again. I can't figure out who did the stuff for Iron Man, haven't seen it yet, so I'll stay for the credits. jay - Original Message From: Jeffrey D. Gimzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IXDA list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 11:20:09 PM Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man Ok, so here is the missing piece to this discussion: WHO is the movie Interface and Interaction designer that comes up with this stuff ? I mean, effects guys are good ( i know many) but creating the effect and coming up with the IDEA or totally different things. Any ideas on how to track him/her down and get them on the list for some poking and prodding and maybe a web lecture on process ? jd On May 8, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Ajaei Prasad wrote: Using the wand to transfer the design to the 3D display was so cool! Did you guys also notice the keyboard that he uses? He makes a gesture using his hands over the keyboard, and it lights up.. I'm not sure what the gesture was for! But it looked cool. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'd all be a lot healthier though! MU study, similar point to marked benefits from not sitting. Maybe my arms would look more like TC's too. Bruce one of the things that was brought up - maybe on this list, i can't recall - with the Minority Report 3D gestural interface was that it would ridiculously exhausting to stand around all day with waving your hands in the air with your arms raised up hight than your chest. try doing it for 10 minutes. jd -- Jeff Gimzek | Senior User Experience Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glassdoor.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Screw the Ford Commercial
There's nothing on TeeVee I've seen recently that's blown me away, from a work related standpoint, than the description of The Uncanny Valley on 30 Rock: http://www.gamewithabrain.com/2008/04/25/news/30-rock-tackles-uncanny-valley-with-worlds-first-porn-video-game --peter Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] fireworks
On Mar 21, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Michael Tuminello wrote: There is, at last with CS3, a good ability to exchange files between FW and PS and AI. You will hit a wall with complex files, but I was pleasantly surprised by my ability to exchange files with PS users without any ill effect - I never had an issue, and never even discussed it with anyone, so I was exchanging files transparently without the PS users noticing. omnigraffle I can't say. FW does support a lot of import/export formats. I have had good luck getting omnigraffle files into adobe illustrator by saving them out as .pdf files. you dont get the layers, but you can create decent ones by saving out the omnigraffle layers as separate files and bringing them in. from there you can go probably to photoshop (import the pdf's) and export out to Fireworks. not fast and simple, but beats recreating an almost done wireframe from from scratch. I'm a big FW fan, after initially being a reluctant user. pages and frames are great. having a mixed bitmap/vector toolset without being massively complex is great. the live effects are great. feel free to get more info from the horse's mouth - alan musselman was at interaction08, and is a product manager for FW. his blog is here, and there's a weekly session you can just pop into and ask questions: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/amusselman/ it's very casual, and more or less exists for this purpose. I wrote some thoughts on this on adobe's site a while back: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/wireframing.html On Mar 21, 2008, at 7:03 PM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote: Hi, So, I've heard a lot about using Fireworks for working through a design from wireframe to prototype, even to finish visual design.. For the people who use/love Fireworks I have a few questions: - how do you integrate with the standard graphic design workflow involving Photoshop/Illustrator. Photoshop files import as bitmaps, so it's hard to convert things into symbols etc... - on the other side.. what if you have to work with other designers not using Fireworks? is there any good way to exchange files with people using Visio/Omnigraffle? I've been an Omnigrallfe user for a while now, for diagrams and wireframes. I'll continue to use it for diagrams for sure, but Fireworks seems like it might be a better tool for wireframes and prototypes... any thoughts? (ps, i know there have been a ton of software/tool threads lately, so if you're overwhelmed by them feel free to reply off list) Thanks! -- Jeff Gimzek | Senior User Experience Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glassdoor.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Jeffrey D. Gimzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one of the things that was brought up - maybe on this list, i can't recall - with the Minority Report 3D gestural interface was that it would ridiculously exhausting to stand around all day with waving your hands in the air with your arms raised up hight than your chest. try doing it for 10 minutes. jd Jeffrey, I believe that it would be better than our current seating and pointing + clicking a mouse all day long situation. A friend of mine develops a research about the harm of being seatedall day long. One of the key issues that she points out is that the human body was designed to work, and move, as a whole. Just think about mundane actions, like walking. We move the whole body, not only our legs. Every and each part of the body is connected to the whole. When we seat and work with computers in our workstations, the only part of our body that moves are our arms and hands. And that's why we have several injuries on those parts. From Homo Sapiens, we became Homo Sedens. And many ergonomic tools only reinforce this, making supports for our hands, arms, even our head! But still, this only makes us stay seated and moving just part of our body. Of course, standing all day can be exhausting, but it's something to think about...I guess an user interface that allows a stand-up position, and that allows us to make wide movements would be better. -- prof. mauro pinheiro universidade federal do espírito santo centro de artes depto. de desenho industrial Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Iron Man
WHO is the movie Interface and Interaction designer that comes up with this stuff ? I know that for Minority Report it wasn't one, part was Dale Herigstad at www.Schematic.com, and a company based out of MIT grads that actually has working glove/gestural tech...primarily for military because it takes up whole rooms. In Star Trek series it was science advisors. As a futurist/innovator/inventor, it's been increasingly clear to me that using media is one way of tilting the earth so that what is 'that could never happen' to 'when's that going to be coming out?'. So I plan to use youtube vignettes to help illustrate tech driven IxD. Troy Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help