I would like to congratulate the Slim Devices crew on their sale to
Logitech.
I have only had my Squeezebox for unde a month but it is possible one
of the finest things I have bought.
As long as the management team stay, or have opportunity to imprint
their ethos on the Logitech appointed
Media Streaming is clearing an up and coming
market and SD are not going to be able to continue forever on ripped
CDs as a source - CD is a dated format now and I'm sure the music
industry would dearly love to hasten its demise. Online music and DRM
is going to be the future whether we like it or
Unless it's a IR based device (limited functionality and not what
people want) or just a fancy Logitech/SD branded web tablet (i.e. a
crippled 770), it's going to have to have some kind of proprietory
software if it's going to be as slick as, and compete with, the Sono's.
What does proprietary
Damn. I was hoping someone would show me how to do it. I guess I am
going to have to learn how to write .bat files.
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Looks like their new Harmony 1000 is either line of sight or with a
optional IR repeater that operates on RF. Seems like that would be
compatible with any system.
Can you receive cover art through IR from the SB? :-)
A new remote as everybody is talking about will imho need wireless
broth420;147914 Wrote:
I do have Various Artists in the Album Artist section, for albums
that were compliations albums (like AM Gold 1969, movie soundtracks,
etc).
Do I need to take out the tag, and if so, how. Just leave the section
blank? Or do I need to reconvert the entire lot.
Remove
I have recently been streaming mp3 from SS to myself at work. That
works fine generally but I have noticed 2 issues:-
1) Random play - if I select the 'work player' on the top right of SS
and try and add or play a random song list in that player it keeps
switching back to the 'home player' and
At the rate my validation is going, it'll take another 7 days! Songs
are taking anywhere from 7 to 30 seconds to fingerprint and some song
are being analyzed for some reason which can take up to 25 minutes
per song!
After a full day of validating, it's only gone through about 1700
songs.
in your batch file, simply kill any possibly running
softsqueezeheadless.exe before starting up the current one.
I'm not sure windows has a command-line kill command available but
search for the sysinternals website (THEY were bought out by Microsoft,
so hurry...), they have some command-line
Does it not flag up to people that there is something not right about
allofmp3.com if money grabbing credit card companies are refusing
payment through them?
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autopilot;147993 Wrote:
Unless it's a IR based device (limited functionality and not what people
want) or just a fancy Logitech/SD branded web tablet (i.e. a crippled
770), it's going to have to have some kind of proprietory software if
it's going to be as slick as, and compete with, the
This sounds fairly normal to me. My library of c. 6,000 songs took about
4 days. If a specific song is on the MM database it takes 10-20
seconds. If it can't find it, it analyses it from scratch, which should
take about the length of the song, plus a bit. So if your tastes are
esoteric, it can
It's expected. Validation is a very resource intensive process, which
is why Predixis suggest leaving it to run on your PC / box on
overnight.
The following may help speed up the process:
Close all other non-essential programs and shut down any non-essential
services;
Change processing
Michael Herger;148056 Wrote:
Looks like their new Harmony 1000 is either line of sight or with a
optional IR repeater that operates on RF. Seems like that would be
compatible with any system.
Can you receive cover art through IR from the SB? :-)
A new remote as everybody is talking
This sounds fairly normal to me. My library of c. 6,000 songs took about
Mine (about 7000 songs) almost a week :-)
esoteric, it can take a long time. 25 minutes does sound a lot,
however - do you have a lot of classical stuff? If so, you might want
MIP only analyzes the first 3 or 4
funkstar;148085 Wrote:
Does it not flag up to people that there is something not right about
allofmp3.com if money grabbing credit card companies are refusing
payment through them?
Many people want cheap music and evidently don't mind funding the
Russian mafia. It makes them feel like
autopilot wrote:
People are already talking about a new remote, which would be great,
however this opens up a whole new can of worms itself when concidering
todays takeover news.
Unless it's a IR based device (limited functionality and not what
people want) or just a fancy Logitech/SD branded
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
and all you can really say
CardinalFang wrote:
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
and all you
I am using my squeezebox mostly to stream .wav files and I sometimes
listen to internet radio. This means that i never use the Browse
artist or Browse year or any other browse 'tag' menu options, but
i often have to navigate throught these menu options to get to what i
really want: the browse
CardinalFang wrote:
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
and
PhilNYC wrote:
Jetlag;147912 Wrote:
2. FLAC support in perpetuity (unless something better AND also free
comes along in the interim)?
With the never-ending price drops in hard drive prices, why not just
rip to WAV files and not worry about FLAC?
Because WAV files don't support tagging.
thaumaturge;147968 Wrote:
Well, Sean and the boys cashed out. I'm disappointed, but not surprised.
Good for them. Better to take the offer now before the SB shipments
drop off after even more media-server products are released this
quarter at half or a third of the SB price.
I doubt the
Have a close look at the tags in those files.
Is there any difference between the two missing songs and the rest?
Does slimserver find them when you use the search facility?
What happens when you click on one of the missing songs in Browse Music
Folder?
Are they listed under Artists - Various
broth420;148017 Wrote:
Is there a good place to go for instructions in the use of that program.
I am a little confused as to what I need to do.
If you're referring to Mp3tag, take a look here:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?Mp3tagGuide
It's not specific to this particular problem,
dae3dae3;148101 Wrote:
Many people want cheap music and evidently don't mind funding the
Russian mafia. It makes them feel like they're not stealing if they
pay somebody for it.
For me it's not really the price, but the fact that it's DRM free.
I'd be happy to pay 99cents a track if it
i feel very stupid, but i find all sorts of menus but i have no idea
where to find the Player settings menu. Under Settings, i have only
Server settings as a submenu. In the server settings there are
lots of submenus, but i can not find the player settings menu.
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Roy;147922 Wrote:
In your flac files create a tag called wm/albumartist and populate it
with the artist name
Where did you find this solution? I've never heard of that tag before.
What file types do you use?
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slimpy;148134 Wrote:
Where did you find this solution? I've never heard of that tag before.
What file types do you use?
Looks like a Windows Media-specific tag.
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vertojojo;148133 Wrote:
i feel very stupid, but i find all sorts of menus but i have no idea
where to find the Player settings menu. Under Settings, i have only
Server settings as a submenu. In the server settings there are
lots of submenus, but i can not find the player settings menu.
In
Mark Lanctot;147869 Wrote:
Good God, why? That's one of the best things about the Squeezebox!
Other manufacturers don't use ones this large because they feel they
are too expensive. In fact I believe I read that the display is the
highest-cost component in the whole player. However SD
funkstar;148085 Wrote:
Does it not flag up to people that there is something not right about
allofmp3.com if money grabbing credit card companies are refusing
payment through them?
I think this is a case of the bigger bully (RIAA) winning a round in
the war. They (RIAA) can't control Russia
As a consumer that just wants things to work well and support as many
formats as possible without DRM rubbish (which has never stopped anyone
from copying music), I'm in two minds about this. However, as long as
support for a wide range of formats (especially FLAC) remains and I
don't have to
Isn't this where the Open Source/GPL community feel-good factor falls
apart?
Let's say I'm one of the developers working on some free software. It's
open source, lots of people can/have contributed. But then the major
user of this software gets sold for lots of money to a company, let's
call
sorenson;148140 Wrote:
Yes, I would have to say you are correct in your assumption, but my
point being that with large databases the VFD is a bit limited to work
with (it might be that I am the limited one!), but I do see you point
and have to agree with it, so it would have to be the remote
Robin Bowes;148118 Wrote:
CardinalFang wrote:
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's
Mark Norton wrote:
Open Source/GPL may be a good idea, but not when some people profiteer
on the back of other people's efforts.
That's the way it is, isn't it?
I dunno, because the various game engines (quake, doom, et al)
have made some original developers very rich,
Chip Hart;148162 Wrote:
Mark Norton wrote:
Open Source/GPL may be a good idea, but not when some people
profiteer
on the back of other people's efforts.
That's the way it is, isn't it?
I dunno, because the various game engines (quake, doom, et al)
have made some
jarome;148157 Wrote:
3) I hope SD does NOT do things like adding video or color screens.
There is no real reason to see album covers, and the niche market is
high-end audio, not video.
Yes! And there are growing calls for this, in this thread and others.
Video streamers and music players
Mark Norton wrote:
Isn't this where the Open Source/GPL community feel-good factor falls
apart?
Let's say I'm one of the developers working on some free software. It's
open source, lots of people can/have contributed. But then the major
user of this software gets sold for lots of money to a
On 10/20/06, Mark Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Sure, the software is still open source and GPL but other people have
benefitted at my expense. I've been sold down the river, I've beenhad.This is total and utter crap. You can still take SlimServer and do whatever you want with it. You can
Jacob Potter;148159 Wrote:
Not for me...
I personally write/contribute code because (a) I want whatever feature
I'm adding, scratching my own itch, and (b) I like seeing others use
and enjoy my work. That's the community feel-good factor. The money
from the devices is going to a different
Mark Norton;148164 Wrote:
Sure there's the satisfaction element but it would have been nice to
feel that $20m was being spread more widely across the people who made
it happen.
On a per line of code or number of forum posts basis?
You must be kidding.
If you participate in an open source
I've never for the life of me been able to see how the act creating open
source software could be a business in any way shape or form, except
one destined to go out of business.
The act of contributing to open source software is a Charitable Act,
pure and simple.
Now, the question you have to
If you're not getting paid, does it matter who's not paying you?
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it goes on and on - i buy a MAC G3 they change to USB - i purchased a
MAC G5 - Dual and they change to Intel processors - i buy a SB1 and
they improve the display - i buy a SB2 they move to SB3 - i was just
about to buy a Transporter they sell the company...
you know what i'm going to downgrade
jonheal;148173 Wrote:
Now, the question you have to ask yourself is: Do people that drive
Porshces need charity? ;-)
Well, Porches aside, ;-), we did know who the company personnel were
and they were extremely active in the forum. It shows a genuine
interest and concern for their customers.
I did not contribute to SlimServer but own 50% of a software company and
I don't do anything for free. Nothing, and I charge on the basis of
value delivered, not time taken or costs incurred.
I was interested in understanding how the people who did contribute
feel about the acquisition of SD by
Masterbaron;148177 Wrote:
it goes on and on - i buy a MAC G3 they change to USB - i purchased a
MAC G5 - Dual and they change to Intel processors - i buy a SB1 and
they improve the display - i buy a SB2 they move to SB3 - i was just
about to buy a Transporter they sell the company...
you
I believe Mark posted in good spirit, and wasn't trying to do this, but
this thread is a borderline troll for flame responses from Open Source
proponents. You're really missing the point and spirit of Open Source
development, and I hope some of the responses have done something to
clear that up.
Masterbaron;148177 Wrote:
...at some point you've got to find happiness...
Try looking for happiness in something other than your stuff.
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Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the
service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi
gear...
That's just silly.
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Mark Norton;148182 Wrote:
Is Open Source really a philanthropic gesture? Does it matter that you
might struggle to pay the bills/fix up the car/put your kid through
college as long as somebody really likes your sort algortihm? Isn't
there a tinge of envy out there, a feeling that it should
I removed the weather plugin and indeed, the time runs again!
Thanks!
I'm going to search for a compatible weather plugin.
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understand a typo when you see it..
understand perception that's confirmed by experience is worthy of
concern..as in logitech product experience has been lack-luster at
best..
understand the value a company adds when they back their brand with
quality in terms of support, customer service and
AndrueC;148186 Wrote:
That being the case - why are so many people so keen on making
everything open source?
I think at least part of the motivation must be that being open source
ensures the longevity of the software. SlimServer will undoubtedly
survive, whether contributions will continue
bklaas;148185 Wrote:
Code is GPLed, which means it is not owned by Slimdevices, and can be
distributed at will.
Yes - Logitech doesn't own SlimServer any more than Slim Devices ever
did. Which is why Roku can use it, and there isn't anything anyone can
do about it. That's the downside, your
I've just spent over an hour reading through the entire 25 pages and
growing of this thread. I've owned a Squeezebox2 for about a year and
a half now, and have recently been contemplating buying a Squeezebox3.
Just thought I would add my 2 cents, although I'm probably not going to
say anything
Kevin O. Lepard;148189 Wrote:
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the
service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi
gear...
That's just silly.
A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badge. Which one would you prefer on
your drive?
People
Mark Norton;148182 Wrote:
Is Open Source really a philanthropic gesture? Does it matter that you
might struggle to pay the bills/fix up the car/put your kid through
college as long as somebody really likes your sort algortihm? Isn't
there a tinge of envy out there, a feeling that it should
AndrueC;148186 Wrote:
That being the case - why are so many people so keen on making
everything open source?
here's the manifesto that answers that question in great detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
embracing the idea that code shouldn't cost money is
whatsup all - happy to be making my first post to these forums.
i could use some help/advice on getting remote streaming working. I
have reviewed the wiki and followed all the instructions. here's what
i have done so far:
slim server 6.5 running great. the SB3 works like a charm and there
Wow, give it a chance! The purchase was announced two days ago.
Sheesh. Talk about jumping the gun.
A Transporter purchased today was not made 2 days ago.
Also, it's powered by SlimServer. SlimServer is still there, it's
still open-source, it's still free. Even if the download page is
CardinalFang;148191 Wrote:
I think at least part of the motivation must be that being open source
ensures the longevity of the software. SlimServer will undoubtedly
survive, whether contributions will continue in the same volume is up
for debate, but it'll still be there.
Whether there
On 20-Oct-06, at 6:45 AM, Mark Norton wrote:
Isn't this where the Open Source/GPL community feel-good factor falls
apart?
not for me. I got toys for my efforts, and now I look forward to
different toys.
Same group of people; nothing changed there. Another company made use
of my work as
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 08:09:49AM -0700, Masterbaron wrote:
|
|understand that if you think happiness in the context of my post was
|directed at my life - then you indeed need to get a life!
I understand its pretty hard to see where you're going with your head
stuck up your arse too...
No
CardinalFang;148196 Wrote:
I wouldn't buy a Logitech Transporter because they are not renowned for
high-end audio engineering or for understanding the needs of the HiFi
audience. Right now, that's dumb, in 2-3 years, it may well be smart.
We shall see.
I don't think you'll have to worry
CardinalFang;148110 Wrote:
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
The same statement, exactly, would have been true before Logitech
bought SD.
The marketplace could change, someone could bring out a slim-killer,
one of the principals could be caught in an
It's incredible how many people can't understand I'm doing anything for
free. Everybody just feels like telling me why don't you make money of
it all the time. It's not (only) Mark's remarks. It's my friends or my
family as well.
I'm glad I have a job (again) to pay my bills. And a little
slimpy;148183 Wrote:
I can't believe you and some others are so obsessed with brand names.
Isn't that audiophile by nature? ;) ducks and runs
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If you indicate you can see the SlimServer web page from an external IP,
do you see a new player in the player settings when you try to play a
stream from the external IP?
Should be Player at XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, which you can rename of course.
Have you switched to that player and added items to
Mark Norton;148182 Wrote:
I did not contribute to SlimServer but own 50% of a software company and
I don't do anything for free. Nothing, and I charge on the basis of
value delivered, not time taken or costs incurred.
You seem to think that all OS contributors are starving, unemployed
So this is why I am not a programmer! Thanks for giving me the tip
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Mark Lanctot;148179 Wrote:
Well, Porches aside, ;-), we did know who the company personnel were and
they were extremely active in the forum. It shows a genuine interest
and concern for their customers. He didn't just take the money and
run if you will.
Sean made the first SliMP3s in his
shabbs;148214 Wrote:
Isn't that audiophile by nature? ;) ducks and runs
Cheers.
We're not all audiophiles here (at least I thought so) and this isn't
even the audiophile forum. If I went by name I would never have bought
that SliMP3 player a couple years back ;)
But you've got a point there
Michaelwagner;148210 Wrote:
I think there's an awful lot of (perhaps self-serving) speculation going
on here.
I enjoy the debate, no more, no less. It won't change anything but it's
kinda fun to chew the fat with fellow enthusiasts.
Michaelwagner;148210 Wrote:
In another thread, I wrote:
hey mark - thanks for the reply.
yes, i do see that external IP as a new player. i see it both in the
top right dropdown box as well as in the server settings.
i changed the name to 'office' successfully.
i did switch to that player, put some songs in the list, and clicked
'play'. the
LHawes;148208 Wrote:
Large buinesses simply do not pursue small markets and the transporter
represent a VERY small market. That is why I would not expect it to
survive for very long.
A small market perhaps, but I would expect the Transporter has much
higher margins than lower cost products.
What sort of files are you playing ?
If they are not MP3 then you may need to install lame.
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jonheal;148219 Wrote:
Well, I was being a little silly, hence the smiley face. But anyway, in
response to all the gut-wrenching over this issue: Who said life was
fair!?! :-)
Yes, I did realize that, and I didn't mean to pick on it.
But there are some things that deserve to be rewarded with
SUCCESS!
okay, not sure what changed, but i restarted the slim server and the
firewall/router. reconnected everything back up and now winamp is
playing the stream. excellent.
songbird is still not able to sync up, but as it is only version 0.2 i
will just chalk it up to pre-release jitters.
Mark Lanctot;148230 Wrote:
No. Do I want wealth? Yes. Do I deserve it? Yes, if only for being a
nice guy. :-) But that doesn't quite cut it.
Hah! yer in Canada. We're only entitled to 54% wealth at best! :)
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Ultimately, I would tend to agree with you, I don't see a Transporter 2
in the future.
I'd agree with you there as well. However, I would say that this was
still the case for me a week ago. Transporter is a BIG leap from SB3,
in technology and
Mark Norton wrote:
Isn't this where the Open Source/GPL community feel-good factor falls
apart?
Let's say I'm one of the developers working on some free software. It's
open source, lots of people can/have contributed. But then the major
user of this software gets sold for lots of money to a
It would really be great if Sean or Junien would comment on some of the
concerns that have been raised in this thread since the announcement.
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
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On 10/19/06, Lowrent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and theservice stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi
gear...For me, hi-fi and music are about sound, not the logo on the box. If you knew the quality was the same, why
Well the saga continues.
Looks like Squeezesoft 3.2 has been completely revamped. All the
documentation I could find is outdated.
Anyone know how to make Squeezesoft 3.2 run in headless mode?
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Jetlag;148239 Wrote:
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
Talk about throwing down the gauntlet! I wonder if anybody will take
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Why would logitech buy the slimserver? They could just take it.
On a similar note, why would they buy two devices they could certainly
engineer for less than 20 million?
The biggest part of what they bought was , IMHO , a network of support
for such devices.
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Quoting Jetlag [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It would really be great if Sean or Junien would comment on some of the
concerns that have been raised in this thread since the announcement.
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
oh good lord. that's just too
Sean and Julien have both already commented and responded to several
comments here. But the flood of responses here probably make it
difficult to respond to them all at once.
It's not like they have no other business to take care of in this
acquisition. Like talking to their own staff, etc.
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
They've been chained to thier desks in a cube farm somewhere and are
not given internet access so that thier productivity isn't harmed by
browsing and forum-posting activities.
Logitech is protecting thier
On 10/20/06, nicketynick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Jetlag;148239 Wrote: Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?Talk about throwing down the gauntlet!I wonder if anybody will takethe bait?Actually, I sincerely hope that both of them have better things
Skunk;148249 Wrote:
Why would logitech buy the slimserver? They could just take it.
On a similar note, why would they buy two devices they could certainly
engineer for less than 20 million?
The biggest part of what they bought was , IMHO , a network of support
for such devices.
What
According to the late breaking news crawler on the San Francisco
Chronicle web site, a large cruise missile with the *Logitech* logo was
just sighted in the air, headed south towards Mountain View.
Come on, you guys!
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Anyone have an idea about this? Am I missing a setting?
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Shoot! I meant to post earlier, now I'm buried on page seven. Even I
only read till page 3.
Anyways, I wanted to add my $.02
Congrats to the SD-Team, I hope this aquisition comes as a reward for
your hard work and commmitment.
I'm a little worried...yada.. yada.. yada. But, I've been a big
speculation is one thing but perhaps you should hop over to the logitech
forums ... it's perfectly clear the culture, contribution, perception
and knowledge level are different..
it's also clear that most are novice and there's no place like home for
the audiophile.. just look at this post from
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