or thoughts?
(as I usually say at this stage; I'm not great with computers, but I
love the whole SB family/capabilities)
Ta
Donald
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THe one that's not is downstairs - and under the floor is covered with
silver backed insulating foil, which I'm sure isn't doing anything for
the signal. Maybe another 'homeplug' will be needed there.
Ta
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Hi folks,
I've recently added to the 'SB' family, and it's meant some relocating
of players.
One of them, an SB1, seems to go through the setup routine OK, until a
stage when it says it can't get an IP address for the server and that I
need to add that manually. (It then says 'setup complete',
Hi epoch,
Thanks very much for your reply. I have made a bit of progress.
Apologies too, because I realise that folk posting questions, then doing
some of their own problem solving and basic checks must be a pain.
I took the SB1 - it's IP address is 192.168.0.8 by the way, so not the
same as
Hi Reinhold,
After I got the SB players all recognised and talking to the server, I
started checking out the netgear kit and their forums. It seems that
when it works it's OK, but that some of the stuff can be a bit flaky.
I'm sure it can't be the best answer to networking the house, but
running
Hi there,
As my signature says, I've been using SB products for quite a while, and
love the concept. For me, it's been a pretty stable platform too
overall, probably because I don't tinker too much and work on the
principle of if it ain't broke
I currently run LMS on a HP PC. Not especially
Hi Aubuti,
I don't dare look behind the fridge!
I don't think it's really energy efficiency that's behind the 'switch
off' thing, probably we just both belong to a generation where
electrical and electronic devices weren't as as advanced or even safe as
they are now, and it bothers my wife more
A lot of interesting points in these replies..
i hadn't seen the FitPc until it was mentioned above. At the moment, it
looks like I've got about 120Gb of MP3 files, so it would fit on a
standard hard-drive. But at £220 + the cost of a drive, and the various
bits of software, it doesn't seem like
I'd agree with the exact copies scenario you've outlined, but I know
that ripping the CDs was actually a longer process than I'd credited at
the outset.
Doing it once again, into FLAC, would leave me with a more high res
copy, and that could hopefully be used as a basis for any further
reinholdk wrote:
Looks like you're ready to spent the money for a vortexbox appliance, so
just do it - I'm pretty sure it will provide a lot of value.
After all, it's only money.
Yeah, I think I'm getting there! But it's going to have to wait till
after Xmas at least. Too many others
I'd multi-quote if i knew how...
Jjzolx - it's not so much learning new software. Quite happy to do that.
I learnt how to use Clean to digitise my vinyl; then had to switch to
audacity for a few cassettes; most recently getting to grips with
something for tinkering with bagpipe music settings!
Hi there,
been on and posting more just recently in a fit of SB enthusiasm.
Tonight it's all gone a bit pear-shaped, though I suspect it's not
actually going to be an LMS or SB issue at the end of the day.
To start with I'd been listening to one of the players in the lounge,
switched off to come
thanks for the replies.
I've been reading up on DCHP, trying to get to grips with what that
means. I'm afraid the 'fanless computer with a pfsense install' sounds a
bit complicated or daunting. I'd also be happy to use static IP
addresses if that was straightforward to implement. By their
pippin wrote:
You should definitely start the router first!
Fair enough. No argument, and I'll remember that for next time. Do you
mind if I ask why?
So, been trying to get to grips with this for the last hour or so -
thought I was getting somewhere, then it all just went pear-shaped
again.
garym wrote:
.This sounds like you have LMS running on more than one machine.
MacNeil-PB is one and it thinks you have another PC. Remind us of what
you are running LMS on? A PC, a nas? Or?? And is there more than one
local computer running LMS?
Gary, That's what I thought it was
Gary, thanks for this. MacNeill PB is simply the name of the PC - My
name is MacNeill, the computer is a Packard Bell = MacNeill-PB.
I'll away now and try the routine you've suggested. Hopefullly be able
to come back soon with a report.
Ta
SB user since 2000...
2 x SB1 ; 2 x SB3 ; 2 x Boom ;
Hi all,
Lots of thanks due to everyone. Particularly to Gary - following that
measured shut-down and restart procedure, I now have all the players
back, and the LMS and PC IP addresses are the same. This suggests a big
part of this was my ignorance about starting the router first, and to
use a
aubuti wrote:
You should go back and edit out the MAC addresses for your players in
your posts in these threads.
Thanks - done that. I appreciate the need to be cryptic, and the answer
would doubtless be over my head anyway.
aubuti wrote:
And thanks for the addition of fankle to my
Hiya,
As per normal - nothing fancy or tricky here! Just using the Touch as a
straightforward player, fed from the main computer's version of LMS.
After the restart, the Touch just didn't look quite like 'normal'. I was
trying to find a screen like on the boom, SB3 and SB1 where i could
select
So, still a few issues I think. I'll try and do it in a timeline, for
logic reasons, but also in case it makes a difference in diagnosing any
issues.
After the full restart mentioned above, one of the players ( kitchen
boom) didn't connect. Maybe significant that it was the player that
stayed
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SB user since 2000...
2 x SB1 ; 2 x SB3 ; 2 x Boom ; 1 x Touch ; 1 x Controller
Windows 7 and LMS Version: 7.7.3 - 1375965195
Next step... a Vortexbox?
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toby10 wrote:
Sure sounds like you have network gremlins here.
Checked for duplicate IP's? Checked that PC/LMS IP is same when it
first boots up and when it does WOL?
In router settings make sure:
- max # of allowed devices has not been exceeded
- set to a fixed WiFi ch of 1 or 6 or
Thanks Reinhold,
Well, it was working fine earlier. Switched it off for a while, then
turned it back on again at lunch, worked fine again. So will
probably just see how we go.
It's connected via wireless, not ethernet, but has never given any
problems until now - and certainly the 'couldn't
Hi Garym,
i don't think i have a need to keep turning the router on off. Until
you suggested it as part of a shut down/ systematic restart, it probably
hadn't been turned off for months, if not years. But, doing a full,
incremental restart seemed to be useful, so I'd just done it again. I
feel
So,
Last night, 4.30am or so, the display on the SB3 in the bedroom lit up.
Connecting to server it proclaimed. Now, I'd been fast asleep until
then, but that was the end of that. I wasn't so pleased, and neither was
my wife. Ho Hum - just another disturbed night's sleep!
But really I could do
guys,
thanks for the replies. Have come back home, and checked the LMS log.
This is what I get for the relevant time (seems I didn't wake up
straight away after all!)
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[13-12-13 03:00:14.5331]
Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Watchdog::OnWakeupWatchdog (647) Wakeup Call in
EOD!!
[13-12-13
hi all,
Having thought about it, I've decided to move my LMS from the family PC,
and rescan the CDs to FLAC. I'm going to use a vortexbox. This was one
of my options, and the final choice was driven by getting one at a
reasonable price on ebay recently.
So, I'll probably have to update the VB
w3wilkes wrote:
A comment on ripping to FLAC. All FLAC is the same quality - LOSSLESS.
The difference is the amount of compression. I believe the default is 5.
The higher the compression the more processor will be required to
compress it. On the decoding side I'm under the impression that
Apesbrain wrote:
If I were taking on this task, while re-ripping CDs to the Vortexbox I'd
leave my existing configuration alone so I (and my family) could
continue to enjoy it. (The last thing I'd want to be doing is a lot of
tech support during this process!)
that is what I was initially
Apesbrain wrote:
While you're ripping the Vortexbox needs internet access but it can be
-wireless- if that is more convenient for you. When you make it your
production server, however, it needs to be -wired- to your router.
Of course! Homer Simpson moment thereDoh!
Thanks
D
SB
Guys, thanks all - a lot of useful stuff in these replies.
as it happens I stayed home today to try and shake off a bug, and not
inflict it on the rest of the office. So, I downloaded dbpa to try
playing / learning that, as I'd got the suggestion earlier about using a
separate ripper from the
Brilliant! Thanks again to all.
Gary - I'll go and play with those ripper settings (Gain and 'ultra
secure') and see how I go.
Aubuti - I think I WAS confusing the filename and tag contents. And I'm
happy that I can use 6/8s as intended!
On the question of 'Springsteen Bruce' - though I
probably wandering a bit off-topic here, but I re-ripped the Springsteen
CD using those settings, and it was still a long process. All down to
the last track. Probably about 18-20mins to do that alone. First time
round it had to re-rip something like 160 frames, this time it was 300+.
I left it
reinholdk wrote:
Regarding the time it takes to rip a single CD:
among other factors like quality of your CD drive and your CD, it also
depends on whether it's a real Audio CD or not: it feels like decades
ago but in fact it is not so long ago that parts of the music industry
tried hard to
Hi there,
I'm sure the answer to this must be in the forum somewhere, and I -have-
done a search and read a good few posts, but can't find anything that
addresses my specific - that some players see LMS; and some don't.
I've introduced a new router tonight (Netgear DGND3700). So far, for a
Thanks for your replies.
kidstypike wrote:
Press and hold the left button on the IR remote and scroll till you see
connect to your server name then right arrow.
Eh? When I saw this last night I thought that doesnt seem to make much
sense but maybe Im missing something. So I tried it
kidstypike wrote:
When you press and hold the left arrow button and you get to the point
where it bounces, if you *scroll* up or down, do you not see Connect to
your LMS server name and Connect to MySqueezebox.com?
Hi, thanks again. That's a set of menu options I didn't know was there.
I'll
hi there,
Maybe there's two things going on here:
1) having had a look at that thread on the netgear forums I'm not
delighted I've bought a router that seems to have so many issues.
However there's now updated firmware that I've installed, so I'll not
stick it back to the shop _just__yet. And,
Rather than add this to the post above, I thought I might follow here to
preserve any kind of 'timeline'..
Anyway, I have a further SB3 (powerline ethernet) and Boom (wifi)
downstairs. I hadn't done anything with them since the new router
install last night. The logic being to start with one or
thanks w3w,
I reckon you did save me a lot of time by pointing me at that issue and
thread so early. I'd probably have taken a lot longer to get there, or
tried to persevere with something that seems just too flaky. We went
through so much on that support call that I can't remember, but we
thanks again to all who replied and offered help.
Just to wrap it up. I took the 'old' new router back to the shop and, a
little against my better judgement, walked out with another (slightly
more expensive) netgear model.
Plugged it in, and while I won't say things went completely without a
Perhaps! The shop (maplin) had: Belkin; TP Link; or Netgear Not that
much of a choice to be honest.
If you Google map Inverness, Scotland, you'll see we're a bit off the
main drag. Online shopping will give us anything we want, at a time
penalty - especially at this time of year. Actual
Hi folks,
Just a quick non-technical question for a Friday eve.
I've started re-ripping CDs to FLAC on a VBA, and stuck in two of my
'vinyl copy' CDs - i.e. .wav files created from whatever software I was
using at the time to capture vinyl.
I expected to have to enter the album data manually,
aubuti wrote:
That surprises me, too. What ripping software are you using, and which
online database(s) does it access? If multiple databases, do you have
any idea which PID'd (positively identified) the album?
Hi,
Ref the above - I don't actually know the answer to all of these
questions.
Ref the CD text idea: if I'd converted a vinyl LP to CD, and possibly
entered that track names into the capture software before writing the
CD, would that leave a text file somehwere? That would certainly be one
explanation.
It's definitely not a caching thing, because all of the first rips were
Hi folks,
It's one of those days when I wonder why I persevere with these
things. definitely!
I posted this in the Boom forum, but I'm taking it over here because it
seems I was too hasty and it's a wider issue..
This morning, I tried to turn on a Boom that hadn't been used for a good
few
so, I'll set out what steps I take to try and fix this..
Just powered everything down, and started again, router first, giving
it lots of time to reboot before turning on the PC vortexbox.
This time, in case there's any conflict between different versions of
LMS (now running 7.8 on both PC
garym wrote:
Reboot everything Start with router
Thanks gary - learnt that lesson last time. Our posts crossed. Wasn't
the magic bullet it was last time round.
D
SB user since 2000...
2 x SB1 ; 2 x SB3 ; 2 x Boom ; 1 x Touch ; 1 x Controller
Windows 7 and LMS Version: 7.7.3 -
hmmm.
I had tried to connect the 'Bedroom SB3' a couple of times, as mentioned
above. I then came through to the PC to make the last couple of posts.
Went back into the bedroom - and it's now connected..
How does that work? A 'sticky' connection with the router? Something
intermittent in
So:
Touch (wifi) connected no probs;
SB1 (powerline ethernet) connected no probs;
Garage SB1 (powerline ethernet) connected fine;
SB3 in the cellar connected fine.
but still the two Booms just can't get through. I've done several
factory resets; the see the network SSID instantly, they offer
sorry folks, I'm sure this is getting boring..
I can now connect the 'kitchen boom' to the server and play music, but
only in the same room as the router. Once it's connected, if I switch it
off, and move it to its normal location - where it's lived for years and
years - it won't connect.
and finally.
Getting that Boom connected was driving me nuts. It wouldn't connect in
location A in the kitchen, but would in location B in the same room;
then I'd take it one room further away, wifi strength dropped to 50% but
it connected and played. Back to location A - nope. Back to
SlimChances wrote:
Any source of wireless interfeence present? New cordless phones,
microwave, garage door openers etc. Try changing the Routers wireless
channel below 11 and not on auto (I have mine set at 7 and no problems
with boom or radio any more)
hi - thanks.
I looked for anything
thanks guys,
I can login to the router admin easily enough, and I can see where to
alter the channel. No probs with that. But, not being in any way an
expert on these I wondered if that would cause further problems? Do the
various clients just adjust automatically, or would I need to
Durks et al.
Thanks for that. So, does a fixed channel have any other 'performance'
benefits beyond easing channel congestion? Or to put that the other way
around, if I don't have to deal with congestion issues, will moving to a
fixed channel make a difference?
I'm not rejecting the advice at
thanks again,
Before I went to work today I switched the router to channel 1. We'll
see how that goes. If all goes well, I'll probably leave it there. If
not, then I'll try channel 11 at the other end.
durks wrote:
Are the Booms well-behaved? I don't know - I don't have one to play with
-
Hi folks,
I went to bed last night, everything was hunkydory in squeezebox land.
Woke up this morning, and it's clear something's happened during the
night, because all the players can't connect. Its a Vortexbox, running
LMS 7.8 and a new-ish 'top end' Netgear router.
First of all I tried
Gary,
Thanks very much. I've had to come in to work (can't sit at home all day
trying to get my SBs to play - though it's very tempting!)
I'll have another run at it this evening.
garym wrote:
Make sure your router wifi channel setting is set to an actual channel
and NOT automatic. Don't
Apologies for the profanities. I tried changing the VB details to static
as above, except that somewhere, while I was trying to find out what the
local subnet mask was, I found 255.255.255.255 i.e. four times, rather
than 255.255.255.0. Now I can't login to my VB on the web interface
because I
What can I say. A bit of wandering around the vortexbox forum and
guides, and lots of switching my monitor from PC to VB, I got that
sorted. Now it's just a case of restoring the rest of the network around
the static IPs.
On one hand, I think this is all caused by the SBs and find myself
blaming
aubuti wrote:
Sorry if you've already explained this in one of your earlier threads,
but are _any_ of your SBs on a wired ethernet connection? If so, do they
suffer from the same connection problems, or is it only wifi? .
Ta. Its powerline Ethernet. I have a Touch that struggles to connect
Thanks again guys,
I've changed to a fixed wifi channel - 6 - along with the other
settings. My cordless phones are old, and beginning to play up in other
ways, so probably makes sense to change them for newer tech.
I just thought I'd come back on the microwave thing though. A while back
I was
Hi folks,
Im having issues with a problematic Touch. I dont think its the
device, but some sort of connectivity issue. Ill try and explain:
Im running a setup of 9 devices: 4 Touches (including the problem
one); 2xBooms; 2xSB3; 1 x 'softplay' or whatever. Details here -
Logitech Media
Hi Toby,
Thanks for the reply.
Switching to wi-fi (with DHCP enabled again on the router) I get an IP
address of 192.168.0.104. Using powerline it's set to 192.168.0.025.
I tried wi-fi there, and the Touch _does_ connect to the LMS. However,
while I can select music, and it says it's playing
Hi Gary,
Thanks - I was typing the message below when yours came in.
I realised I had one other option because of where the Touch was sitting
connecting it directly to the router via Ethernet.
1) disabled DHCP on the router,
2) Connected Ethernet cable to the Touch and powered it up.
3)
thanks Gary,
it's no wonder there's confusion with the length of these posts! I'm
trying to set out a timeline that details all the steps (on the basis of
providing as much information as possible), but I'm slightly surprised
anyone's trying to follow!
Point 10 above - when I tried to connect
Hi W3W,
I think my upstairs/downstairs issues with EoP are definitely related to
this. I don't know that they are completely separate, because the
adapters do seem to work in some locations - though not necessarily
reliably. It makes me think the connection could be there, but subject
to
toby10 wrote:
Yes, but unlikely. Tried swapping player locations? Put the problem
Touch where your non-problem player exists and works fine?
I think the fixed/static IP assignment is way over used for most home
network usage where DHCP works just fine. In turn complicating basic
home
i appreciate the logic of switching players certainly, but I'm not sure
if what comes next supports the 'move it and check' argument, or my 'try
not to disturb then in case they take the huff' one...
came to bed tonight, thought I'd listen to some Radio Paradise. Using
Squeezepad, I went to turn
Thanks Gents, I appreciate it.
garym wrote:
Your problems sound network related to me
. I can say that in 90%+
cases like yours I've seen discussed here over the years, the local
network was ultimately the culprit and not the players, the firmware,
etc. And 90% of the time the poster was
jimbobvfr400 wrote:
Do you have an android device at all? There is an app called WiFi
analyser thats good for that. I'm sure there's equivalents on iOS.
Thanks. I don't think I have an android device (ipad and blackberry) but
my daughter's new motorola probably is. I'll check that out. Ta.
Get.amped, thanks for all that. Busy night tonight and I'm not able to
do justice to all that yet. I can certainly try and draw out my network
in its component parts.
I've realised something else though about my Touch connections issues:
(sorry for the length of this, but I can't see any way of
Hi Gary,
I'm pretty sure I did initially set up proper static IPs as per advice
you'd given before, including the VB. My details are almost identical to
those you've given. I think my IP was xx.xx.xx.10, and I had the DNS
servers the other way round, but more or less the same.
I'm pretty sure
well.. a factory reset of the Touch still didn't work.
To try and further diagnose this, I wonder, is there something
intrinsically different from the Touch devices that would make them more
susceptible to network issues, as opposed to other Squeezedevices?
If all's going well, I have 8
I've prepared a schematic of my network to try and help clarify things
further. Anything with a solid line is cabled, anything with a dashed
line is wireless.
While I've shown all four Touch's as connected, only two are at the
moment. One of those two (top right) has two dashed lines. When it's
Mnyb wrote:
Some routers have a setting to limit the amount of devices conected ,
check it's web-UI .
I didn't know that. It's quite a 'high end' domestic router though, so
I'd have thought this wasn't the case. I will check.
Mnyb wrote:
Touch can loose its static settings if you poke
Guys,
Too long! Too long a post, but I am really keen to acknowledge the
suggestions Ive received, and I very much appreciate the continued
interest and suggestions.
In real life Im a member of a Pipe Band (Scottish bagpipes). Were
not exactly renowned for our sobriety,:o and the band were
get.amped wrote:
The Wifi and ethernet connections have distinct MAC addresses. As long
as only one interface is connected, a single static IP address can be
assigned for the device. However, if you are creating reservations in
the DHCP server, each MAC address should get its own entry and
thanks guys,
I have a spreadsheet too - with all the MAC addresses, IP addresses,
device names and so on - it's not that I'm hopelessly disorganised!:D
Just to recap though on some things above. I did set the router DHCP and
static ranges to avoid conflicts, but I'm increasingly convinced that
Hi folks,
I'm in the position where I have a couple of spare SB3s, and one of my
kids is asking about using one and LMS to listen to their music. I've
explained that it could all be put onto the Vortexbox and accessed, but
I think the risk of stumbling onto my 'oldie' stuff is off-putting!
Thanks guys,
I guess I should clarify a little! When I say kids, Im actually dealing
with a 16 and 13 y/o. Theyve grown up alongside the SB system and have
a decent idea of its capabilities, but until now have tended to listen
to their own music on ipod or smartphones. Like most kids of that
Thanks guys for these suggestions.
I think this parent/sub-folder option does sound like a good compromise
between ease, function and technicality.
I guess I could also copy MP3 versions of duplicate artists (those
that might show up in both kids and adult libraries) into this ..
thanks again guys,
I'll need to wait till tomorrow evening to check this out further. Kids
being kids, tonight's entertainment was a trip to 'Accident Emergency'
after she dropped a block on her foot.. thankfully the X-ray shows
no harm done.
SB user since 2000...
3 x Touch; 2 x Boom ; 3
Hi folks,
I did a search for this and found nothing... but apologies if that's
just my poor searching..
I have several players which I occasionally synchronize, occasionally
don't. They are all set to "power on/off separately" and have been
forever. I've never had them set to power on as a
hiya, thanks for your reply.
I don't use ipeng. I either switch the players on/off using the power
button (Booms) or remote control (Touch/Classic); or I control them via
an ipad and 'squeezetouch'.
The only other thing I can add is that this morning, I turned on a Touch
and found that it was
... just bumping this..
Today, I turned on one of my Touch players, and the music (local content
on LMS Vortexbox) very occasionally paused and rebuffered. I figured it
was router traffic as my wife was downloading a big phone OS upgrade.
But, when I left the room I discovered that all three
A small update, for what it might be worth...
I ran Radio Paradise (internet radio) for quite a while - there was no
problem with that.
I then switched to local FLAC files and this is the pattern - plays for
about 12-15secs; stops for ca. 20 secs; plays again for 12-15 secs..
etc etc.
So,
Hi folks,
As the title says, I've just moved from an old Vortexbox running 7.8, to
a new Nova/VB running 7.9. Nothing else has changed - the players are
all in the same places, etc etc.
Previously I had no issues routinely synching up to 5 or 6 players
(three Touch; 2 Boom; perhaps one or two
and the culprit was indeed 'wifi issues'.
I think one of the Touch players isn't getting the best wifi signal. I
had time to play with it today, so I connected it via powerline
ethernet, and I had six players successfully streaming FLAC files all
day.
I still don't really understand why
Thanks for the replies - apologies for the slow response myself, I've
been working away.
This "could be a coincidence" certainly. It's just that it follows
months and months, if not years of trouble-free synching. The only thing
that's changed is the new server and appliance. Obviously that's a
DJanGo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please make a screenshoot from your Plugins - delete all your Plugins
> and start from scratch.
>
> "old" plugins where updated all the time when a newer Version is there.
> But "old" plugins that are not supported anymore - may causing a busy
> system.
> These were not
Hi folks,
I'm nearing completion (HOORAY!) of a rescanning of all my music into
flac, onto a new Nova/Vortexbox using LMS 7.9
On the old box, I didn't have it set to scan for artist or album images,
but I'm noticing that the new LMS is doing so. How do I stop it?
In my experience anything
Jeff07971 wrote:
> Hi,
> I do not believe any version of LMS downloads artwork for files (unless
> theres a plugin for that)
> Something else in the vortexbox software might though.
> Jeff
Thanks for the reply Jeff, I've actually just deleted the original
post.
I did find something in the
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