On Sep 4, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Bill Cherepy wrote:
I am truly sorry I ever asked that question. Please consider it
withdrawn.
Bill WB4WTN
A new bumper sticker?
D-STAR: Radio that's not just 'mash to mumble' anymore!
(GRIN!!!)
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, and
available bandwidth of the Reflectors is not published in most cases.
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, isn't it? Kinda like making a big bowl of
Chex Mix for a party! LOL!
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. Good luck!
Be safe! Fly the canopy first, then play radio! :-)
Los Angeles Center, Cessna X, Jumpers away!
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:32 +, boeing377
boeing...@gmail.com wrote:
We will try again this Saturday Sept 5, 2009, likely jump window
were just the guinea pigs.
(My opinion, anyway.)
Japanese business is a very odd thing for outsiders to get... it has
good/bad characteristics, but some of these things are deeply rooted
in cultural norms we aren't even aware of from the outside.
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you do with it.
He who dies with the most bandwidth wins! :-)
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Any news on whether it'll have a serial interface (or that
mystery USB port on the back) capable of doing low-speed DD data?
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:25 +1000, Adrian vk4...@bigpond.com
wrote:
¨Hi Guys,
Just learned that the IC-900 will support D-Star DV
area, and be prepared to
follow your local coordinator's process for finding an appropriate
frequency for the UHF and 1.2 modules. I've seen at least one person
in a densely populated area buy a VHF module, and then find out there
is a long waiting list for VHF pairs in their area.
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different... you just work toward
maximum performance by careful planning and running the numbers... and
then tweak from there...
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themselves is pretty piss-poor, too. But those
are advanced topics beyond just getting a system on-air and operating.
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Interesting. Have you tested that John? I'm chicken to.
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:04 +, john_ke5c k...@hot.rr.com
wrote:
*I,m AI4UE Peter from Burlington.*
*yes my Buddy from Germany DM5LW is blacklisted.
*
*So far I know,hw did nothing wrong!*
*He
-Plus links. Same idea.
Piece o' cake, and no fallout problems for anyone else, really.
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their name is Adrian, with a broken Gateway. Tee hee.
Hi Adrian.)
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. They can link/unlink whatever
and whenever they want. It's not rocket science.
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for whatever reason. Wasting my time pointing out the
obvious again...
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, and feed line and all of those seem
to be working well. Once the repeater is keyed, the transmit side
is great with an excellent coverage area. The issue is at the input
side.
How did you check? What were your measurements?
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simple. Even a cave man could do it.
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that
behavior at all.
It's that completely back-assward?
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to disconnect from the Reflector.
Re-read the solution again.
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at the design in hindsight and
knowing the whole thing was designed for ID-1's and the 10 GHz links,
originally... then the Gateway and VHF/UHF came along, and are by far
the more commonly used side of D-STAR now.
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between ID-1 rigs. It looks to me like that vision
was there, but never implemented.
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(at the time) to have fallen on the completely deaf ears
of the community at large...
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,
that we both absolutely agree on! (GRIN!)
Any newer, better system that doesn't interoperate FULLY with the
K5TIT system including routing of calls, is just going to cause
confusion and problems for end-users.
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to these questions with
Scott, right? This has been a pattern for at least a year and a
half... Yawn.
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justify $1000 radio just to play on 1.2 GHz right now...
maybe someday.
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:06 +, n4ijs n4...@insightbb.com
wrote:
Good morning!
First of all - welcome to DSTAR! I know you will enjoy the mode -
I have been active in it since Dayton
of
OTHER D-PRS rigs, like the 2820 does. You have to hook a laptop
to the serial port and use software to RECEIVE other station's
location information with both the 800 and 880, I believe. The
built-in point to the other station feature is only in the
2820, AFAIK.
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seen a few
similar types of problems in RF transmitter devices and
interference with themselves in the past.
The public safety radio probably was on a frequency that also hit
the multiple or there's a missing bypass capacitor on a data line
that needs one, or similar.
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Impressive accomplishment. Congratulations.
Reposting to Gateway group also...
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:24 +, dlake02 dl...@cisco.com
wrote:
At the end of last week, GB7MH, currently awaiting installation
at our repeater site, was connected
work so well for a group... of course.
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:47 +, Michael Carey
michaelcare...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Hi Everybody,
I've been trying to get digital code squelch working between my
IC-2820H and IC-91AD radios without success.
I've set
) on
W0CDS port B. Of course, you can also connect directly to our
system. All check-ins are welcome.
73 de Bud
W0RMT
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Please TRIM your replies or set your email
interfaces for D-STAR stink from what I've heard, but they'll
take serious punishment.
I don't recommend TESTING it though. :-)
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:00 -0700, John Hays j...@hays.org
wrote:
Well at least Alinco, Icom, and Yaesu had compatible microphone
they needed to do that for.
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:00 -0700, J. Moen j...@jwmoen.com
wrote:
I haven't heard that 80, but I'm very pleased with the audio
quality of my 91AD. I guess audio assessments are influenced by
personal preferences.
Jim - K6XZ
- Original
Too many groups anyway... just hang out here and post your
review. That'd be my thought anyway...
Different topics: That's what SUBJECT lines are for.
One D-STAR list is enough... people just want their little
kingdoms... :-)
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:47
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. Thorodin was done right.
The Repeater is using a very similar but more compact/modern version
of the same antenna.
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Sent from my iPhone
.
It was just a wild example, attempting to point out the obvious...
voice or data ID -- doesn't matter which... only one is required.
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... but we'll see if we get a chance to try some D-STAR
Aeronautical Mobile on the way out/in from the photo hop.)
Photos will go up on www.rmham.org as we create them... or when
we have time to upload them. John's good about that.
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14
that there's a world outside the
US. :-P
Hey! We let the Canadians participate in our VHF/UHF QSO Party too!
We rarely hear any of them down here near the 40th parallel, but we
are listening! (Hahaha... BIGGER GRIN!)
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On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:04 -0400, Woodrick, Ed
ewoodr...@ed-com.com wrote:
I believe that the IC-91 and the ID-1 are the only radios that
allow for remote control
---
It's not really control... the software/protocol has no way to assert
PTT.
Also Dan (of D-RATS) fame hasn't been able to find a
The 880 is too new for the magazines or other outlets to have
done a side-by-side comparison yet, considering lead-times for
publication, etc. I'm sure someone will do it, eventually...
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On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:48 +, nu5o n...@yahoo.com wrote:
Looking
That's right... you mentioned that the data stream gets cut off
when you're in control mode.
As one of my ham/pilot buddies says: That sucketh mightily.
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On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:19 -0700, Dan Smith
dsm...@danplanet.com wrote:
Also Dan (of D-RATS) fame hasn't
Woodrick, Ed wrote:
More refined is what I see from see, feel, touch, operating, and reading
the manual. Have you done as much or are you just reporting on what you
have heard on the mail lists.
That's good. You're the first person to post that. There hasn't BEEN
any discussion here on
Woodrick, Ed wrote:
If your definition of control is the software/protocol can assert PTT
then all of the radios have remote control, because by sending data,
they can all assert PTT.
This is NOT the same thing as rig control. There's a real PTT line on
virtually every other Amateur rig
to keep in mind when programming your rigs. I highly
recommend the programming software or if you're more adventurous, a copy
of CHIRP.
Nate WY0X
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will stop someone
from copy-catting a callsign to gain access to routing... eventually.
Nate WY0X
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of to handle mobile dropouts, I guess. The
right way to handle it is to continously interleave the header/routing
information throughout the entire transmission... but too late... D-STAR
Protocol V2, maybe someday.
Nate WY0X
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/prodfiles/news/031820092.pdf
Not for the everyday ham, but I believe this is the first test unit that
works with DSTAR.
73, Steve NU5D
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easy to make
that logical jump mentally.
p.p.s. I'm also NOT saying D-STAR is encrypted. There are examples of
decoding the audio from any radio already... but none that don't
require the AMBE chipset from DVSI.
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through, they really should be using callsign routes and
understanding them.
Is it nice to have Dongle users and Reflectors, sure. Is D-Plus the
answer to all routing/calling for everything? Not yet. Not by a long
shot.
Nate WY0X
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callsigns, but if you're attempting to leverage the technology to make
your event run BETTER... putting a comment in the comment field is
generally useless.
Have you seen how long it takes an ID800H to get around to displaying
the comment field?
Nate WY0X
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Tony Langdon wrote:
At 09:23 AM 5/18/2009, you wrote:
You said multiple country/repeater conversations aren't possible with
callsign routing -- False.
OK, that's one trick I would like to know, and without using
multicast - because of the administrator intervention required, I
field? :-)
On both of the above ... I say no filters. Transmissions are the
responsibility of the transmitting station... as always. Software in
charge of human policy always ends up a mess, and people figure out
ways around it anyway.
Nate WY0X
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adequately be handled by the conscious decision to teach the Net Control
and other stations HOW the system works...
That's my opinion anyway... Power to the people so to speak. LOL!
Nate WY0X
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. :-)
Nate WY0X
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the user interface is TERRIBLE for D-STAR though... thinking about
how small that screen is and the keyboard... ugggh.
Nate WY0X
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Ishikawa
- Original Message Ends
Hi Kay,
It is needed here for DV Dongle users to be able to hear local
repeater traffic, and also as a default setting for users to pass
through D-Plus links.
Nate WY0X
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the Gateway callsign in the U.S. more
often are the following:
1. DV-Dongle users listening to repeater traffic.
2. D-Plus links.
3. D-PRS/APRS Gateways
Thanks Evans.
Nate WY0X
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I am SURE the same thing is true of the system 30 miles from you. The
owner/operator will know better than we will here on the list.
Nate WY0X
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completely seems to
have forgotten about how U.S. users use the rigs.
What do you think John? Should I get another 800H while they're still
in stock??? :-) Maybe someone who's experiencing the fun of the 880
first-hand can comment.
Nate WY0X
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linking
back into your mental toolkit and you'll have a better understanding
of its limitations and good points.
Nate WY0X
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Gary Pearce KN4AQ wrote:
Everyone should play with EMR and test it with their radios before they
need it. It doesn't dial 911, set off lights, whistles or sirens. It just
turns up the volume, so if you try it, you won't be causing anyone a major
problem. But you probably ought to announce
Woodrick, Ed wrote:
One of the best uses of the I command is to see if the repeater is
linked or not.
If you issue the I command and get a repeater ID or nothing (if ID
doesn't exist) then you know the repeater is not linked.
Or your signal sucks and the gateway didn't even copy
Woodrick, Ed wrote:
Elaborate on the Echo Command or using the file created by the echo command.
For the Echo command, go to the DSTAR Calculator
http://www.dstarinfo.com/Calculator/DSTAR%20Web%20Calculator.aspx?Source=W0CDS
The gateway admin records it with a DVDongle and can make it audio or
not, and can also set a text message. We don't have one here locally
because without a Dongle, I can't record one for W0CDS. I assume many
systems have a similar problem and the I command does nothing.
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The echo command, eh? Want to elaborate? The dplus readme is a bit
lacking as the only documentation, methinks!
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On Apr 15, 2009, at 19:03, john_ke5c k...@hot.rr.com wrote:
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr n...@... wrote:
The gateway
and follow any mobile user,
moving from system to system... and it might not have been an
obvious solution to those who are miffed that callsign roaming
doesn't keep up with people changing repeaters mid-flight.
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gateways to go thru. Not my own
experience. I've yet to try to follow someone between Gateways with
callsign routes.
Thus my thought that one-touch could be used, but you're right -- it
doesn't change the RPT2 field in the rig.
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On Apr 10, 2009, at 5:44, Pierre
It's a built-in, and I don't believe there's any way for the local Gateway
admin to turn that feature on and off.
http://www.opendstar.org/tools/readme.txt
If D-Plus is installed (virtually all US systems and most others, but not in
Japan), it should do it.
Easy to test locally
doesn't work at the present. Try UR=CQCQCQ and RPT1= The repeater call
and band you are on, and RPT2=The local repeater call and band you want
to come out on. This works without a gateway. nu5d
Nate Duehr wrote:
It's a built-in, and I don't believe there's any way for the local Gateway
admin
And if that's going to be commonly done during this Net, it would be good
to get the people on the C module to reverse that route and do the same
thing back toward you, so the Net is heard on both modules. otherwise,
it'll sound like he's talking to himself to anyone only listening on the B
module
to is on the Alabama
D-STAR website:
http://www.arrl-al.org/Alabama_link.htm
Scroll down a ways, and there's a link to the PDF (printable) version.
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between Trust Server systems.
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Please TRIM your replies or set your email program not to include the original
message in reply unless needed for clarity. ThanksYahoo! Groups Links
* To visit your group on the web, go
Gateway 2.0 supposedly fixed any problems with dynamic addresses.
The downside could be that if the dynamic address really is quite dynamic
(changes a lot), the network as a whole may not keep up well with the
changes.
Generally, static is better -- in that any Gateway attempting to find
-790-0950
Fax: 866-309-6077
Email: j...@hays.orgmailto:john%40hays.org
mailto:j...@hays.orgmailto:john%40hays.org
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you're
thinking -- that they have to hope it works.
That's just a sign they don't fully understand it yet, and the event
is better held on analog or with analog as a backup for the confused.
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Just to be careful here.
It's a true dual-band FM analog radio, and a single-band D-STAR radio, or
any combination of those.
It cannot receive two D-STAR signals at the same time.
Nate WY0X
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
Answers below.
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bill Powell
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:11 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Coordinating DD mode repeaters
Scott and Group,
As VP Coordination
Yes, Utah is way ahead of the curve in the technical analysis of D-STAR
signals from Icom rigs, and the rig's behavior. I agree!
:-)
Nate WY0X
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of John Hays
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:09 PM
To:
Chip,
There's a very easy example for all of this.
If you were to set up a D-STAR rig to do DPRS beaconing, the rig transmits
it's programmed callsign in the transmissions and it's a legal ID. You're
not talking.
Nothing in the on-air protocol changes between that DPRS beacon and a
: We'll play with our callsigns -- putting messages in
the callsign fields about you -- and make jokes about it, and you'll
never see it! :-)
(BIG GRIN. Just kidding on that last one.)
Nate WY0X
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I drop back to common sense on this question:
1. What is the purpose of an ID? So the FCC or anyone listening can
contact you if your transmissions are causing a problem.
2. Can the FCC or anyone else figure out who you are if they need to,
from the full content of your
You have asked the wrong question, grasshopper! (GRIN!)
Have you ever seen ANY technology ever REALLY fade away in Amateur Radio?
A friend of mine jokes that we're the RF Historians of the modern age. We
still operate in modes that no one else uses anymore.
So the question is better
A = is usually 1.2 GHz, B = UHF, C = VHF on
almost every U.S. system. They're backward in the ARRL book. But
that's easy to fix with a pen... so the descriptions then make sense.
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that I
think about it.
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it is, locally...
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-- but you
can just push and hold your one-touch button to route back to me!, or
whatever... in case he has no clue what that means...
Piece of cake.
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the DStarUsers.org info.
Nate WY0X
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:21 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] People Locator
Any registered user can log into their local Gateway's
Yep Debbie,
I keep hearing about people writing front-ends to the Gateway interface,
or doing the registrations for the users to make things easier. but then
they don't get to see how the system really was meant to work, and they
usually don't provide the information that the original web
No reason it couldn't. but by design, they probably thought that was a
security/privacy issue.
I'm surprised no one's asked DStarUsers.org to take that data down,
honestly. Someone who really values their privacy will eventually.
(I don't care if anyone knows when I've been on, but I'm
@yahoogroups.com
mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com , Nate Duehr n...@... wrote:
I'm surprised no one's asked DStarUsers.org to take that data down,
honestly. Someone who really values their privacy will eventually.
2. People will ask that some web page they have no relationship with
stop
: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID800
I am Reg. with Dstar but can't get in Gatway
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com , Nate Duehr n...@... wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Jim wrote:
I am having problems with ID 800 geting in to Gateway any1 can help
email me
Oh, this might also help.
Any of the active stations you see on this list, are people on your local
repeater:
http://www.dstarusers.org/viewrepeater.php?system=KD0CGR
Any/all of them should be able to assist.
Nate WY0X
From: Nate Duehr [mailto:n...@natetech.com]
Sent: Monday
Saying Enough! acting like you're a parent or something, talking to kids -
and bringing out a disrespectful tone seems counter-productive John. We're
discussing it rationally.
It also doesn't make the very real feelings about inappropriateness of the
website publication of transmissions go
be installed in the craft?
The harder part in an aircraft would be getting the 1.2 GHz signal
outside the airframe. 1.2 GHz antennas for aircraft are in short
supply, I'd say.
Remember also that it's 128K HALF-duplex...
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to help here in public...
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I did say as designed, John. The roaming slowness is a fixable problem
with enough eyeballs on it, and is directly related to the growth of the
system, I would imagine. I don't see it as a way to roam between local
repeaters as much as it is a way to find someone anywhere when they really
roam
Good lord, what did Yahoo do to my proper PUNCTUATION on that last message?!
That was NOT typed up that way!
Sigh. strange. Thanks Yahoo. wow. That's weird!
Nate WY0X
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From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of k2aau
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:38 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Gateway using Wireless access / WIFI
Nate:
What about having a remote access from my home using
UR?:your repeater call - means call transmitted correctly
RPT?:your gateway call - means remote busy or unknown
RPT? can also mean you're not solid into your local repeater (callsigns got
mangled).
It's often the real source of the problem for weak HT users. Their
transmission is good enough
)
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:37 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: New PDF on contacting JA Stations
RPT? is normal for a Dplus Linked call that tricks the gateway into
thinking it is going nowhere. :-) steve
Nate Duehr wrote:
UR?:your repeater call
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