[Emc-users] Vectric Aspire 8.0 generates bad code for LinuxCNC

2016-06-04 Thread Danny Miller
I've seen this several times... So Vectric Aspire 8.0 is a great program. Most of the time it works ok. However, we've found Gcode generation sometimes yield just this: G64 No "P0.001" parameter. Well that's pretty damn toxic, it'll create huge arcs instead of what it's supposed to do.

Re: [Emc-users] Vectric Aspire 8.0 generates bad code for LinuxCNC

2016-06-04 Thread Danny Miller
Max vel 15, max accel 50. That cuts like 1" radius arcs. But the docs are saying that's basically what G64 with no P-parameter does, basically totally disregarding accuracy to keep the feedrate up. Danny On 6/4/2016 4:16 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 4 June 2016 at 20:20, Danny Mil

Re: [Emc-users] Copying an installation

2016-05-27 Thread Danny Miller
et something that resembles this: >>>> >>>> gene@coyote:~$ grep ' ifname ' /var/log/dmesg >>>> [1.401462] forcedeth :00:08.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x5043 >>>> @ 1, addr 00:1f:c6:62:fc:bb >>>> [1.929064] forcedeth 0000:00:09.0: ifname eth1, PHY

Re: [Emc-users] Copying an installation

2016-05-26 Thread Danny Miller
May 2016 at 19:51, Danny Miller <dan...@austin.rr.com> wrote: >> Any advice, folks? I've gotta move off that Dell machine ASAP and >> really want to avoid a whole reinstall. > I would suggest a complete reinstall of the OS and LinuxCNC, but keep > the same config files. The L

[Emc-users] Moving axis while paused

2016-06-26 Thread Danny Miller
Recently discovered this: When paused, the axes can't be moved by the user. While that sounds like a safe protection at first, that's actually a critical problem. It is not uncommon to have to "fix" something mid-run. In a few cases I've seen the CNC router pop freed pieces out and they

[Emc-users] Spindle control panel breaks LinuxCNC?

2016-06-16 Thread Danny Miller
I have an X200 VFD. M3,M5,S18000 work fine, from MDI or code. My MPG's "spindle" button works. On the default panel, there's a "Spindle" button flanked with a CW/CCW indicator. Clicking any of that doesn't make the spindle go, even with "S" set to a valid RPM. It's not JUST that. Once you

[Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus

2016-02-28 Thread Danny Miller
I have an X200 VFD (a predecessor to the WJ200) I commanded with Modbus under Mach3, but am moving this to LinuxCNC. Same PC. So the hardware's fine. It's starting from a motherboard RS232 port that we've used for other things under Linux (and has an RS485 converter). VFD is programmed to

Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1

2016-03-13 Thread Danny Miller
Oh look, same thing but larger: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Trapezium-500W-100ohm-Aluminum-Housed-Wire-Wound-Braking-Resistor-/281080278842?hash=item4171b0af3a:g:VqMAAMXQ855RwVCg From what I'd Googled, the wattage can be much lower with drives for spindles that just need them to stop on a low

Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1

2016-03-13 Thread Danny Miller
I DID see there's "braking units" AND "braking resistors". I am unclear on what's inside a braking unit. I am sure it has a self-resetting breaker at least. But that is not even all that good to have- opening of the breaker would cause the VFD to go into an overvolt error state. You won't

Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1

2016-03-13 Thread Danny Miller
From what I gather, the primary factor is the motor voltage and drive hp. A 2.2KW motor with a 2.2KW drive on 208v is 10.6 amps. Well, the phase currents are a different calc, and we're also talking about the main bus cap in the VFD which is rectified off the 208v source. So these numbers

Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1

2016-03-13 Thread Danny Miller
Which VFD is this? Danny On 3/13/2016 8:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2016 13:39:10 Jon Elson wrote: > >> On 03/13/2016 08:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Sunday 13 March 2016 09:30:30 John Thornton wrote: I just used the the one for by the drive. I "think" not all

Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1

2016-03-13 Thread Danny Miller
Actually at least the X200 and WJ200 have integral interal braking resistors- but, for practical reasons of space and cooling, they're undersized and only "remedial". They can't absorb the full current of high-speed braking that the drive can potentially deliver. Danny On 3/13/2016 1:14 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1

2016-03-13 Thread Danny Miller
long. Danny On 3/13/2016 11:26 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2016 22:05:11 Danny Miller wrote: > >> Which VFD is this? >> >> Danny >> > A blue label in a matching sized depression on the right side claims it > is a: > > HY01D523B > With t

Re: [Emc-users] That TTS to er20 adapter package we all jumped on.

2016-03-12 Thread Danny Miller
Well, this has got me intrigued. What are the ATC spindle options nowdays that would work for a wood router? http://www.blurrycustoms.com/#!store/cu2p/!/AVX3/p/35336572/category=9308353 Cheapest I see is a $3600

Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1

2016-03-12 Thread Danny Miller
Without an external braking resistor, the deceleration is much more limited. What happens is the back EMF charges the main bus capacitor, and it will go into an overvolt error and simply freewheel to avoid charging it further to a point where it will damage the cap. I have a 3KW air-cooled

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus

2016-03-06 Thread Danny Miller
I don't see a reason to view the traffic itself. I need to go though the manual and read back register values and try writing some regs. It's tedious to do with the panel, and I'd have to unmount the VFD and disable to Modbus to do any panel reads. So, reading via modbus would be much more

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus

2016-03-06 Thread Danny Miller
I saw it mentioned on http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VFD_Modbus Which just said "I know nothing about Classic Ladder"- basically I don't know anything either. The wj200_vfd.comp path looked shorter. I was not impressed with the way Mach3 ran "brains". That was super-simplistic and

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus

2016-03-06 Thread Danny Miller
the response packet automatically? Danny On 3/6/2016 2:54 AM, Philipp Burch wrote: > That's what qModMaster could be good for, then. > > Bye, > Philipp > > On 06.03.2016 09:50, Danny Miller wrote: >> I don't see a reason to view the traffic itself. I need to go though >

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus

2016-03-01 Thread Danny Miller
So it is! It's "--baud=". Well, it didn't make the VFD run. And looking at the Hal monitor, the vfd "Ready" was False. I looked through the code, I see where it reads the coils, and compared with wj200 manual and x200 manual... the x200 does have all the same coils, but for some reason the

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus

2016-03-07 Thread Danny Miller
3/7/2016 4:14 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 07 March 2016 02:21:53 Danny Miller wrote: > >> And that did it! Well, is there any reason to hook that enable up >> to anything? Won't it issue a stop via Modbus if we do Toggle Machine >> Power? (I should have checked

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus

2016-03-06 Thread Danny Miller
And that did it! Well, is there any reason to hook that enable up to anything? Won't it issue a stop via Modbus if we do Toggle Machine Power? (I should have checked that). I found the code has a bug, it's making a "calculated frequency" by multiplying the freq by 100x. But neither the

Re: [Emc-users] Modbus wiring

2016-04-03 Thread Danny Miller
Well, if you have 2 differential wires with a simple optoisolator at the far end, ground noise/ground loops would have no effect whatsoever. You don't need a ground. There would be no place to put a ground. There are no common-mode issues. The slave device's ground could be +300VDC above

Re: [Emc-users] XHC-HB04 on LinuxCNC

2016-03-31 Thread Danny Miller
You're describing a VERY weak, overly complicated system. Even small machines get pretty sloppy with that sort of linkage. Cross shafts have a ton of inertia and a lot less torsional stiffness than people think. Belt drives have been pretty springy on even the tiny Shapeoko stuff, and it

Re: [Emc-users] XHC-HB04 on LinuxCNC

2016-03-31 Thread Danny Miller
I'm a bit confused. How do you get branched versions, and which one? When you say "something other than", is this a branch from 2.7.4 PRTK? I can't use a non-PRTK branch here. Danny On 3/31/2016 11:13 AM, dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: > But wouldn't that break the ability to home the gantry's

Re: [Emc-users] XHC-HB04 on LinuxCNC

2016-03-29 Thread Danny Miller
OK, what I have is: 1. xhc LCD reads coords 2. xhc moves axes slowly in Joint mode, the selector knob sets the axes. What doen't work: 1. xhc has no effect in World mode at all. Either the XYZ page or when you select MDI. 2. The step speed has no effect even when it does step, in Joint

[Emc-users] Keep getting Following Error in World Mode

2016-03-28 Thread Danny Miller
I have the Preempt RT Debian and Linux 2.7.4. and a Mesa 7i92 card on a router using gantrykins to link joint 0 and joint 3 for the gantry. I've been seeing some trouble where it's ok in joint mode, then as soon as I go into World mode, I get "joint 0 following error". Any idea why that is?

[Emc-users] XHC-HB04 on LinuxCNC

2016-03-28 Thread Danny Miller
I do like this pendant. I used it under Mach3 with mixed success- it was essential to have SOMETHING on a large router where you're away from the keyboard, but it was kind of a mess the way it responded (and the driver was closed-source). Anyhow, trying to get it to work on 2.7.4, using

Re: [Emc-users] Modbus wiring

2016-04-01 Thread Danny Miller
I had SERIOUS problems with my X200 VFD and RS485 bus- I "mostly" fixed it. Here's the thing- yes, RS485 is differential, but the VFD is probably NOT opto-isolated input. Differential conveys strong noise immunity- but ONLY when both A and B wires' voltages are within the input range of the

Re: [Emc-users] Modbus wiring

2016-04-04 Thread Danny Miller
That's a bare unidirectional isolator. OK for RS232. Problem being, Modbus is over RS422/RS485, a bidirectional protocol and there's a lot of difficult problems in creating buffers of any sort. It doesn't know which direction it's supposed to drive at any given time.

Re: [Emc-users] Modbus wiring

2016-04-04 Thread Danny Miller
Lemme clarify- whether or not you're galvanically isolating, any RS485 transceiver needs either 3-wire or 4-wire logic due to its half-duplex nature, OR to be protocol-aware. I don't know if the RTS could be used that way. RTS is hardware flow control, which is obsolete now and often not

Re: [Emc-users] Keep getting Following Error in World Mode

2016-03-30 Thread Danny Miller
OK it's definitely from moving joint 0 or 3 while in Joint mode. Then I'll get Following Error as soon as I go to World Mode. No problems from moving joint 1(y) or joint 2(z). So it's surely a problem with the 0/3 being linked under gantrykins. I'm enclosing the .hal/.ini, if that'll go

Re: [Emc-users] XHC-HB04 on LinuxCNC

2016-03-30 Thread Danny Miller
/2016 4:49 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 29 March 2016 at 07:34, Danny Miller <dan...@austin.rr.com> wrote: >> 1. xhc has no effect in World mode at all. Either the XYZ page or when >> you select MDI > Which version of LinuxCNC are you using? > > In 2.7 incremental joggi

Re: [Emc-users] Keep getting Following Error in World Mode

2016-03-30 Thread Danny Miller
OK, but if DEFAULT_VELOCITY is the initial slider position, what's DEFAULT_ACCELERATION? There's no slider for it, thus no way to change it. Danny On 3/28/2016 12:01 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 03/28/2016 10:34 AM, dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: >> Shoot- you're right, I changed that! >> >> Could

Re: [Emc-users] Edge detection in HAL

2016-04-24 Thread Danny Miller
his, when applied to the spindle > encoders output, allows higher Pgain in the spindle PID, stiffening the > speed vs load considerably on those machines that I have spindle > encoders in. > >> On 4/24/2016 2:07 AM, Philipp Burch wrote: >>> Hi Danny! >>> >&g

Re: [Emc-users] Blacklisting parts of G-code

2016-04-21 Thread Danny Miller
S. > ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinkenlights > > Good luck! > > > > On 04/21/2016 08:02 PM, Danny Miller wrote: >> We're running a manual-toolchange CNC router in an open shop with >> beginner user

[Emc-users] wj200 vfd "wait-for-speed"

2016-04-29 Thread Danny Miller
I have a VFD running on: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/wj200_vfd.9.html Actually it's an X200 VFD and the code is slightly different, but that's not important. I noticed that it doesn't wait for the spindle to get up to speed when started in-code. It just goes. What are my options

[Emc-users] Multiple XHC mpg pendants?

2016-04-27 Thread Danny Miller
I do love this wireless XHC mpg. Had some long-term plans of installing a CNC plasma not too far away, with the same system. Then I began to wonder if two of these can even exist in the same building at the same time. Obviously I don't want one broadcasting to both machines, or allow the

[Emc-users] Time estimates

2016-04-23 Thread Danny Miller
As I've said before, I'm used to Mach3. In this case, Mach3 allowed me to click "Simulate Toolpath" and gave a 100% accurate figure for the file's runtime. It actually simulated with the same path that would execute the code, just without waiting to step anything out, so it takes into

Re: [Emc-users] Edge detection in HAL

2016-04-24 Thread Danny Miller
. It's working super-nice now. I'm confused why halui.program.run needs a significant width. I figured it would register the command any time the command was asserted. Danny On 4/24/2016 2:07 AM, Philipp Burch wrote: > Hi Danny! > > On 24.04.2016 08:37, Danny Miller wrote: >> [

Re: [Emc-users] Time estimates

2016-04-23 Thread Danny Miller
t; numbers for run time. > I recall that being a problem actually in some situations. > > There is some discussion of that on the web. > https://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php?topic=18557.0 > There are several other links available. > > Dave > > > On 4/23/2

Re: [Emc-users] Can't get XHC-HB04 MPG to work

2016-04-23 Thread Danny Miller
ny On 4/20/2016 5:29 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 20 April 2016 02:29:18 Danny Miller wrote: > >> It's loading without error. The LCD works, the handwheel does jog >> the axes, and the selector knob does change the axes. But none of the >> buttons function, inc

Re: [Emc-users] Edge detection in HAL

2016-04-24 Thread Danny Miller
Perfect! Thanks! Danny On 4/24/2016 2:07 AM, Philipp Burch wrote: > Hi Danny! > > On 24.04.2016 08:37, Danny Miller wrote: >> [...] >> >> So I need like an edge detector that provides only a pulse for one cycle >> when the button is pressed. That seems simple e

Re: [Emc-users] Time estimates

2016-04-24 Thread Danny Miller
AM, Dave Cole wrote: > On 4/23/2016 2:44 PM, Danny Miller wrote: >> It should not be done in CAM software. That's just not possible. > http://support.vectric.com/aspire-questions/item/how-to-get-estimate-of-machining-time > > I can't think of a cam system that doesn't have a time

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC as laser cutter?

2016-04-29 Thread Danny Miller
logical progression. To some extent, this is an >> extension of the lack of control I have in Windows, compared to Linux. >> I think it's more of a philosophical difference than a technical >> difference. >> >> Sorry, but I haven't implemented any of this Li

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC as laser cutter?

2016-04-29 Thread Danny Miller
d of just turning on there. There would be no need for smoothing here. I'm worried how bad rastering would get if it were represented in G-code. Then again, I do pull in huge raster jobs with 1/16" bits anyhow on the CNC. Danny On 4/29/2016 7:55 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 30 April 20

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC as laser cutter?

2016-04-29 Thread Danny Miller
Having some preliminary thoughts about LinuxCNC's appropriateness to be a laser cutter, like 120W CO2. The other option is the open-source Lasersaur or Axecut. Those aren't particularly advanced trajectory planners or anything. Can it be a good tool for lasering? I did see where some

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC as laser cutter?

2016-04-30 Thread Danny Miller
lack of control I have in Windows, compared to Linux. >> I think it's more of a philosophical difference than a technical >> difference. >> >> Sorry, but I haven't implemented any of this LinuxCNC laser stuff yet, >> so I have only this generic advice and no specific

[Emc-users] Blacklisting parts of G-code

2016-04-21 Thread Danny Miller
We're running a manual-toolchange CNC router in an open shop with beginner users. From Day 1, some things I thought would never happen somehow happened. Someone somehow set G64 Path Blending, and to a very high value, rounding off all the cuts. Someone managed to set Tool Length Offset,

Re: [Emc-users] Can't get XHC-HB04 MPG to work

2016-04-21 Thread Danny Miller
I was a bit confused where we get the hal for the buttons: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/24-hal-components/26679-xhc-hb04-wireless-mpg-pendant-hal-module?start=200 > b) The sim configs use a halfile named xhc-hb04.tcl that loads > a helper component (pendant_util) and makes all hal

[Emc-users] Edge detection in HAL

2016-04-24 Thread Danny Miller
I have the XHC-HB04 MPG, with a combined Run/Pause/Resume button, which I find to be a smart layout. Stop is a different button. I set this up with, basically: 1. halui.program.run = button & is_idle 2. halui.program.pause = button & is_running 3. halui.program.resume = button & is_paused

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc and Arduino

2016-05-17 Thread Danny Miller
I'm not sure what context you're saying you have for the XHC. I have he XHC-HB04 on LinuxCNC RT on the Linux RT kernel. It's a VERY smooth response, but partly because my machine is very fast. There is, however, a case for time delay if you select jogmode=normal and not =vnormal on a slower

Re: [Emc-users] Copying an installation

2016-05-21 Thread Danny Miller
not check the target drive size. > > The easy way is to copy the home directory then install from a live cd > then copy the linuxcnc directory to the new drive. > > JT > > > On 5/7/2016 10:34 AM, Danny Miller wrote: >> So as per previous thread, I may be moving this to

Re: [Emc-users] Copying an installation

2016-05-22 Thread Danny Miller
Any advice, folks? I've gotta move off that Dell machine ASAP and really want to avoid a whole reinstall. No idea why it works up to the point where I try to move axes and get joint following error just right there. Danny On 5/21/2016 3:07 AM, Danny Miller wrote: > OK, we cloned the dr

[Emc-users] [XHC_HB04_CONFIG] doesn't work

2016-05-02 Thread Danny Miller
I realized at least part of the [XHC_HB04_CONFIG] section just isn't having an effect. I can't figure out why. I noticed before that "sequence =2" (before it was commented out) had no effect at all. I saw I could specify "-s 3" on the loadusr line so it didn't matter. I did end up with the

[Emc-users] Appropriate PCs

2016-05-06 Thread Danny Miller
I understand the computational requirements are not stressful, but I know some have management issues. Right now I have a old Dell computer with one of the chipsets specifically listed as "bad". I'm running Linux RT and LinuxCNC 2.7.4 with a 7i92 card but the latency report is pretty high. I

Re: [Emc-users] [XHC_HB04_CONFIG] doesn't work

2016-05-04 Thread Danny Miller
Any thoughts? This is turning into a problem. I don't know Tcl but I guess I could start messing with the script to see why it's not getting the parameters. Danny On 5/2/2016 1:47 AM, Danny Miller wrote: > I realized at least part of the [XHC_HB04_CONFIG] section just isn't > having an

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Danny Miller
I am not in charge of CAM, not in any way. I can't control what people use to generate g-code and people will be doing whatever they feel like doing. Many CAM programs start with M6 T1. There's no reason be requiring a tool table, or stopping for manual toolchange, on the first M6 T1. If

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Danny Miller
So I will not have a "tool table". That's a nonstarter. I don't provide bits, people will use whatever they like (a very large range!) and the CAM stage is their business, not a machine issue. I wouldn't require them to mod out the tooltable file to match their bits, nor would I even allow

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Danny Miller
What does this do, just skip toolchanges and state it's changed? Problem being, if you have a file which changes tools, there will be no opportunity to do so. The machine won't stop, right? The machine will have many users, I should mention that. Quirks on how to set up files, I can

[Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Danny Miller
I am setting up a manual toolchange CNC router system. In the past I've worked extensively with Mach3. Someone just brought up g-code from an automated CAM that started with "M6 T1", and it barfed on loading because "T1 isn't a defined tool in the tool table". This was the one and only tool

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-17 Thread Danny Miller
7:06 PM, Ken Strauss wrote: >> Then as Andy mentioned I think that you're stuck with forcing everyone to >> use only one tool per file since I don't believe tht LinuxCNC allows >> jogging or adjusting offsets during a tool change. Just setup a dummy tool >> table with all offsets s

[Emc-users] Can't get XHC-HB04 MPG to work

2016-04-20 Thread Danny Miller
It's loading without error. The LCD works, the handwheel does jog the axes, and the selector knob does change the axes. But none of the buttons function, including the Step Size, so it's stuck moving by 0.001". I have LinuxCNC 2.7.4 and the Linux Preempt-RTK. I did what was specified

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa 5i25/6i25 +7i76 problems with 2.7.4

2016-04-21 Thread Danny Miller
What I ran into was that the G540 lists a 3.3v compatibility, and a 1 us high/2us low pulse time. But those pulse times won't work for 3.3v. The G540 requires MUCH longer pulses, however there's a lot of room. If you were running a stepper at 1200 RPM (pretty high), that's 40KHz steps, a

[Emc-users] Copying an installation

2016-05-07 Thread Danny Miller
So as per previous thread, I may be moving this to another PC. And probably change to an SSHD. I spent a ridiculous amount of time getting the OS and LinuxCNC RT installed and configured. And I didn't do all of it myself so it's not a straight shot to repeat. I'm just saying if I start from

[Emc-users] G0 vs G1-specific functions?

2016-06-27 Thread Danny Miller
Two-parter here: I was looking over another carving job on the preview window and realized there's really no way to tell where the work is. That is, we go up to Z=2" for the start/end coords, but I need to know where the carving itself starts. It's shown in a different color because it's all

[Emc-users] Major lags when zeroing axes

2016-06-27 Thread Danny Miller
I work a lot with 3D carving. The files are often quite huge. When I go to zero the work coordinates, EACH axis results in recalculating the entire file, which can take minutes. Really it shouldn't require any recalculation (Mach3 doesn't) since it's just offsetting the coordinates, but I

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle control panel breaks LinuxCNC?

2016-06-28 Thread Danny Miller
ould do something different through the HAL > than you'd get by MDI M3. > > Danny > > > andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 16 June 2016 at 07:57, Danny Miller <dan...@austin.rr.com> wrote: >> My MPG's "spindle" button works. >>

Re: [Emc-users] Using 7i76 I/O as serial Rx/Tx?

2016-07-08 Thread Danny Miller
I'd asked them about using a 7i92 to drive an RS485 transceiver, which would require 4 signals. They said the functionality was planned but no specific date. I asked if it would just appear as a Com port, he said no it'd be a specific LinuxCNC driver. There's a "UART" listed on the 7i92's

[Emc-users] Finally figured out how to halve an axis!

2017-02-06 Thread Danny Miller
This has troubled me for awhile. I have the XHC-HB04 pendant. On it is a "1/2" button. It is very useful when your CNC job uses center datum and you want to place it in the center of your stock. e.g. you've got a X=10" wide board, you do X=0 at one side, move to the other size and X=10, hit

Re: [Emc-users] nema 24 motors.

2017-01-23 Thread Danny Miller
What drive and system voltage are you using here? Toroids don't make any sense anymore. Switching power supplies DO perform great, unless you overload 'em with BEMF, but a toroid is vulnerable to that too. Specifically Meanwell switching supplies perform reliably. Resonance seems to be

Re: [Emc-users] nema 24 motors.

2017-01-23 Thread Danny Miller
Dude, drop the 2-phase bipolar stuff and move to 3 phase! Or at least DSP drives. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nema-23-3phase-1-8N-m-255ozf-in-stepper-Motor-57mm-frame-8mm-shaft-57J1285-658-/262562493149?hash=item3d21f1b2dd:g:fMsAAOSwCfdXor7F

Re: [Emc-users] Will a PCI serial / parallel card cure port issues?

2017-01-27 Thread Danny Miller
A card doesn't fix much. Basic problem is you're timing EACH step, which can be over 6KHz. A single step being significantly out of place can create a stall. The main source of jitter is in the CPU and chipset, not the parallel port. The Mesa stuff, I believe mine is a 1ms period, and it's

Re: [Emc-users] Using a homing switch as a limit when not homed

2017-02-08 Thread Danny Miller
On 2/8/2017 8:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/08/2017 11:34 AM, dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: >> I don't have a physical stop on my Z axis, putting one in would be a PITA. >> The drive is exceptionally strong and it would be problematic to stop the >> axis that way. If you're an idiot and jog

Re: [Emc-users] Can't figure out homing on gantry

2016-09-05 Thread Danny Miller
On 9/2/2016 9:45 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > On 9/1/2016 9:28 PM, dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: >> Well, wait- just rechecked the gantry man page: "When the system is >> homing and a joint home switch activates, the command value sent to >> that joint is "frozen" and the joint offset value

Re: [Emc-users] How do stepper drivers work?

2016-09-03 Thread Danny Miller
From the user side, you provide 5v step/dir signals and need to pay attention to which active edge the driver uses, and know the microstep multiplier inside the drive. Inside, it's a constant-current PWM. If it's microstepping, it advances through a sinusoidal approximation of current

Re: [Emc-users] How do stepper drivers work?

2016-09-03 Thread Danny Miller
pretty cheap. Danny On 9/3/2016 3:02 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 09/03/2016 11:32 AM, Andy Pugh wrote: >> >>> On 3 Sep 2016, at 21:12, Danny Miller <dan...@austin.rr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> l approximation of current targets whose PEAK value is e

Re: [Emc-users] Can't figure out homing on gantry

2016-09-05 Thread Danny Miller
T > > On 9/5/2016 4:14 PM, Danny Miller wrote: >> On 9/5/2016 9:24 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> Sounds like your home switches for the gantry are not connected >>> correctly in hal. You do have one switch for each joint right? >>> >>> JT >> Yep m

[Emc-users] Spurious edge on startup

2016-09-05 Thread Danny Miller
I have a HAL which is detecting a false edge when loading LinuxCNC. I have AM882 drives which have an Alarm signal output, and an Enable signal input. Alarm is active-low, Enable is active by default unless LinuxCNC deasserts it, all goes through a 7i92 card. The Alarm signal is tied to its

Re: [Emc-users] Can't figure out homing on gantry

2016-09-05 Thread Danny Miller
iggered them. They respond. At one point I switched the connection for gantry.0.joint.00.home and gantry.0.joint.01.home, just in case I was using the switch for X1 on what was actually the drive for X2. It was a good theory, but it didn't change anything. Danny > > > > On 9/5/20

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Danny Miller
On 9/6/2016 6:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 September 2016 18:21:14 dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: > > Back on the list Danny. > >> Mesaflash allows you to change the IO configuration, but only to a >> number of premade configs, not arbitrary. The GPIO has few limits but >> the

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Danny Miller
y On 9/7/2016 7:52 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016, at 02:43 AM, Danny Miller wrote: >> I have a wireless toolsetting probe here. It's nice, but it's naturally >> sensitive. Even when you're not using it, very easy to trip, and >> LinuxCNC generates a &

Re: [Emc-users] Anybody have an idea how...

2016-09-25 Thread Danny Miller
I did have a theory it was potmetal. Wasn't as bright and metallic as aluminum. Danny On 9/25/2016 1:58 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 09/25/2016 01:11 PM, Danny Miller wrote: >> Some of our folks built a metal kiln and we tried to melt some aluminum >> swarf the neighboring meta

[Emc-users] Can speed/accel be changed without rebooting?

2016-10-05 Thread Danny Miller
I was going through the HAL and noticed the per-axis ini parameters are there. Can they be changed without rebooting? The machine will be at a stop for this. Reason being, I use the standard cutting profile but I also have a 3D carving profile which increases the acceleration much higher.

Re: [Emc-users] Probe cycle switches to MDI

2016-10-08 Thread Danny Miller
On 10/8/2016 12:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 08 October 2016 12:25:57 Danny Miller wrote: > >> I have the wireless pendant button triggering a probe cycle in an >> .ngc. >> >> Problem is, IF the cycle ends without tripping the probe (user error), >&

[Emc-users] Probe cycle switches to MDI

2016-10-08 Thread Danny Miller
I have the wireless pendant button triggering a probe cycle in an .ngc. Problem is, IF the cycle ends without tripping the probe (user error), Axis UI ends up switching to MDI tab, and all the pendant function is for Manual Control tab. So it disables the pendant until you can get back to the

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Danny Miller
On 9/7/2016 12:53 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:41:24 Dave Caroline wrote: > >> That looks like a board I would not recommend look close to the white >> sockets near the axis outputs, it has series resistors for the driver >> optos, these of course are in the driver

[Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Danny Miller
I have a wireless toolsetting probe here. It's nice, but it's naturally sensitive. Even when you're not using it, very easy to trip, and LinuxCNC generates a "Probe triggering during jog" error. Just bump the table. The probe doesn't even have a physical hard switch, just the plate. Hmm.

Re: [Emc-users] Getting current RPM setting?

2016-10-02 Thread Danny Miller
On 10/2/2016 11:05 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 10/02/2016 02:32 AM, Danny Miller wrote: >> I thought it would be a good idea to display what the RPM setting is >> before the spindle is started. >> >> I see current_rps is right there WHILE the spindle is runn

Re: [Emc-users] Getting current RPM setting?

2016-10-02 Thread Danny Miller
On 10/2/2016 11:35 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 10/02/2016 10:12 AM, Danny Miller wrote: >> On 10/2/2016 11:05 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >>> On 10/02/2016 02:32 AM, Danny Miller wrote: >>>> I thought it would be a good idea to display what the RPM sett

Re: [Emc-users] Trouble with TWOPASS and Mesa loadrt

2016-09-25 Thread Danny Miller
On 9/25/2016 10:05 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 25 September 2016 at 08:36, wrote: > >> I am trying to add a run timer as per the time man page. >> >> LinuxCNC fails to load. Initially I think the offending line was "not: >> already exists" in the postgui hal. Yes it uses

Re: [Emc-users] Anybody have an idea how...

2016-09-25 Thread Danny Miller
Some of our folks built a metal kiln and we tried to melt some aluminum swarf the neighboring metalshop discarded, at least what we thought was aluminum (no confirmation, but it wasn't steel). We got almost no metal, just inches of dross. No inert gas or flux there, in fact the metal was

[Emc-users] Getting current RPM setting?

2016-10-02 Thread Danny Miller
I thought it would be a good idea to display what the RPM setting is before the spindle is started. I see current_rps is right there WHILE the spindle is running. But when I enter "S1", it's set inside LinuxCNC even before M3. I'd like to display it in pyvcp before M3 uses it. current_rps

Re: [Emc-users] Estimated time remaining

2016-10-01 Thread Danny Miller
The estimator DOES just use distance & feedrate, not acceleration. This is effective for estimating 2D cuts but junk for 3D carving, which hinges primarily on acceleration. There is no one effective "factor". I have 3D carvings which took 4x longer than estimated, others 6x. If it is only a

Re: [Emc-users] Moving past Home Switch

2016-10-25 Thread Danny Miller
There are multiple parameters: 1. You can declare the homing switch to be a coordinate other than 0. e.g. "after we settle on the switch, this axis is offset so this is now +1.25 inches" 2. You can set axis limits at anything. I probably would never set a negative coord as a limit but

Re: [Emc-users] An observation on digital calipers

2016-11-06 Thread Danny Miller
I tried to buy a pair of HFT calipers a few years ago, found they didn't read right, lost large distances. Went to exchange them but thought "hey let's make sure I get a pair that works..." NONE OF THEM. Went through like 10 boxes on the shelf. None read correctly. Now I've had an HFT I

Re: [Emc-users] max_velocity during execution - multiple axis

2016-11-06 Thread Danny Miller
I did some rotary stuff on Mach3 and was baffled by similar issues. Seems like it'd be CAM's job to manage the feedrate, and calculate for the work radius. That would make sense if you were cutting a cylinder and the G-code move was "X moves 3 inches, A rotates 100 times, feed X at 1.5

Re: [Emc-users] max_velocity during execution - multiple axis

2016-11-06 Thread Danny Miller
ll go faster than 60 ipm in the middle? Danny On 11/6/2016 2:23 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 6 November 2016 at 20:09, Danny Miller <dan...@austin.rr.com> wrote: >> Huh, ok, yeah inverse-time does make sense. > A little less sense than not-inve

Re: [Emc-users] max_velocity during execution - multiple axis

2016-11-06 Thread Danny Miller
On 11/6/2016 1:57 PM, Robert Ellenberg wrote: > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM Danny Miller <dan...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > >> I did some rotary stuff on Mach3 and was baffled by similar issues. >> >> Seems like it'd be CAM's job to manage the feedrate, and ca

[Emc-users] New stepper-servo

2016-10-18 Thread Danny Miller
A friend showed me this today, not powered up yet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m At first I was confused, it says it's a stepper, but with an encoder, and lowers or disables drive current when not needed. Or you can

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit?

2016-10-19 Thread Danny Miller
But if you're doing that, then a Mesa FPGA card makes much more sense for the realtime component. Danny On 10/19/2016 11:26 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: >> ... >> While I use many BeagleBones to control various machines exactly the >> way you describe (using an HDMI monitor and KB/Mouse

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