Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Aug 2017 at 16:27, Dan Baker via EV wrote: > From their site it's hard to tell where there funding comes from, they do list > their funding as 27% from businesses and 70% from "foundations". One of their > Directors bios shows he has direct ties to big oil. It's kind of negative to say it,

Re: [EVDL] replacement or removal of suspected bad 40Ah prismatic LiFePO4 battery

2017-08-03 Thread paul dove via EV
It's very easy to test a battery. Take it out of the pack and try to charge it. It will rise in voltage or not. You BMS boards probably have a minimum voltage to operate and cell fell below that voltage and does not imply the cells is bad. After you charge it then hook up to a know load and meas

Re: [EVDL] replacement or removal of suspected bad 40Ah prismatic LiFePO4 battery

2017-08-03 Thread Rod Hower via EV
Should have bought a Volt!  The 2013-2014 can be purchased for 11-13K$  My 2014 had 51k miles and I bought it for 11.8K.I'm not trying to be a jerk for mentioning this and understand your technical issues, I still own 2 2000 Honda Insight's that I needto figure out what I should do, sell or conv

Re: [EVDL] replacement or removal of suspected bad 40Ah prismatic LiFePO4 battery

2017-08-03 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
3.00V is considered dead. 2.67V is really dead. Your pack is only as good as the weakest (lowest capacity) cell. Unfortunately we don't know anything about the BMS system. I would guess that the electronics consists of a DC to DC converter. Either the converter (or the BMS) may not work prope

Re: [EVDL] replacement or removal of suspected bad 40Ah prismatic LiFePO4 battery

2017-08-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
For $60, I'd just replace it. I don't know anything about the "Plug-In Supply" conversion system, or how a lower voltage will affect anything else in the car. The replacement cell will (presumably) have more capacity than your original ones, but assuming that the current loop cuts out the cha

[EVDL] replacement or removal of suspected bad 40Ah prismatic LiFePO4 battery

2017-08-03 Thread mnevans via EV
I'm new to this discussion list, so I ask your patience: my understanding of EV systems and Li-ion batteries is limited. The question is: replace a bad battery in a pack of 19, or make the pack 2 batteries smaller and suffer an unknown loss of voltage and range? Background: I think I have a ba

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
is type of media :-( > > Cheers > Dan > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170803/34061694/attachment.htm> > __

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread Dan Baker via EV
> > quoting this article too. Sounds like my province will never get an > > incentive with this type of media :-( > > > > Cheers > > Dan > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: <http://lists.evdl.o

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
my province will never get an > incentive with this type of media :-( > > Cheers > Dan > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170803/34061694/attachment.htm> >

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Dalai Lama > -- > Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170803/9166dfc1/attachment.htm> __

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Dan Baker via EV wrote: In a report released in June, the Montreal Economic Institute concluded provincial subsidies were the most expensive, least effective way to help cut greenhouse gas emissions. https://www.iedm.org/71213-electric-vehicle-subsidies-expensive-and-ineffective Would anyone ca

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This appears to be another case of an author or editor who decides in advance what outcome he (or the corporate sponsor) desires, and then tailors the data and analysis to reach that conclusion. The tl;dr: money talks. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread Roger Stockton via EV
Dan Baker wrote: > Would anyone care to comment on this? Agree or disagree? Is it oil > funded > FUD? I live in Nova Scotia, Canada, one of the have-not provinces for EV > rebates. I can affirm that without rebates EV car sales here are pretty > well nonexistent, most dealers here carry very li

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread Russ via EV
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[EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread Dan Baker via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170803

2017-08-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV
hursday approved Volkswagen's plan to invest ... http://evdl.org/evln/ For all EVLN EV-newswire posts {brucedp.neocities.org} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-EV-newswire-posts-for-20170803-tp4687544.html Sent from the Ele